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Understanding the Supernatural: How to Discern What God Is Showing You | ft. Brianca Hardy | EP130 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 1: Come on, they're like a book right there. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like a book, doesn't it. You would know about what
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  Speaker 1: books look like. We're learning. How do you feel being
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  Speaker 1: an author? You know? So listen, it's it's uh. At first.
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  Speaker 2: The funny thing is I had gotten a word, probably
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  Speaker 2: like in twenty twenty three, that was gonna write some books.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in my mind I said, who's gonna write some books? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: First off, who about the who about to read them?
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  Speaker 2: You know because I think in it and in that moment,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just the all the doubt and
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  Speaker 2: all the things coming up, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: But now that I have journeyed and uh, it's so
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  Speaker 2: it's so interesting because I literally the book is on prayer. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's partnering with the Holy spiriting prayer and really birds
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  Speaker 2: in our creative solutions, right, And so that's literally the
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  Speaker 2: journey that had to happen for this book to come out.
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  Speaker 2: Like and I know people who help people write books,
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  Speaker 2: but apparently the Lord wanted me to write this book
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  Speaker 2: the Birth, and so we went on the journey, we
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  Speaker 2: wrote the book, you know, and did self publishing and
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  Speaker 2: all those things. And so I'm very excited that it's
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  Speaker 2: now done because on this side, I can kind of
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  Speaker 2: see that kind of see I can see the need
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  Speaker 2: for it, the need why and why he needed.
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  Speaker 1: Created to Create is an option for you guys in
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  Speaker 1: support and see what the Lord downloaded with Desiraate. But
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  Speaker 1: next time I'm gonna interview Desiraate. But today I have
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  Speaker 1: let's cut this camera here. We're gonna going back to Jessica. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm screaming. I'm screaming. I thought something was wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: thought something was wrong. But today we have a very
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  Speaker 1: special guest. She will always be a special guest. She
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  Speaker 1: was actually the first guest of just As the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: So there's some some trivia for you. If you ever
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  Speaker 1: asked who is the first gift of just As the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: it's this one right here, a supporter of prayer on,
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  Speaker 1: one of our safe space partners who has really really
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  Speaker 1: invested her her her anointing in this project and so
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  Speaker 1: we are so excited to involve her and just ask
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. This interview today is regarding her new book,
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  Speaker 1: Discerning the Supernatural, by none other than the Great, the One,
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  Speaker 1: the Only, Brianka e Hoday.
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  Speaker 3: Girl. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: On the way down here, I was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: my fourth.
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  Speaker 4: Biblically means right and so so for that number represents
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  Speaker 4: doors and we're talking about Discerning the Supernatural.
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  Speaker 1: And then just a little segue.
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  Speaker 4: In the book, I talk about me talking to God
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  Speaker 4: and I ask him deeper than I have in the past.
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  Speaker 4: I deeper, ask him to give me greater insight of
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  Speaker 4: discerning your spirits this gift, and he told me to
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  Speaker 4: change my prayer to not just ask for a discerning
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  Speaker 4: of spirit, but to ask for wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference.
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  Speaker 4: So the difference for God, I feel like is he
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  Speaker 4: was telling me that you're asking for this gift. That's good,
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  Speaker 4: but the level that you're asking for your prayer is
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  Speaker 4: not reaching the depth of what you want. The depth
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  Speaker 4: is wisdom, right, and the Bible teaches that with wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: What is it with wisdom? The fear of the Lord
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  Speaker 1: is the first step to wisdom.
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  Speaker 4: And so the Lord was saying that that is the
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  Speaker 4: door that's going to open right for me. And so
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  Speaker 4: because of my desire, and so I felt like.
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  Speaker 1: This for time. Come on, Lord, go ahead and put
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  Speaker 1: your going to put your hands up because the prophet
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  Speaker 1: is ready to prophesize. Okay, listen, listen, y'all. If you
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  Speaker 1: have not been here, this is her fourth time, you
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  Speaker 1: can go from season one to today. We're super excited.
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  Speaker 1: The door is always open for you. And just asked
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  Speaker 1: the podcast because you are definitely a trusted vessel here,
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  Speaker 1: not only because you're my best friend but because you're
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  Speaker 1: a great ministry leader for me, and so I take it.
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  Speaker 1: I take it not lightly because she knows how to
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  Speaker 1: say no. Okay, you say no. I'm so glad that
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  Speaker 1: we got into the book. So today is solely about
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  Speaker 1: understanding the supernatural and kind of giving us an understanding
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  Speaker 1: of what we will be doing. Hashtag safe Space members
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  Speaker 1: know that this is on our book list and we
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  Speaker 1: will definitely be reading it soon. And because you're a
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  Speaker 1: safe Space member and she's a safe Space partner and
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  Speaker 1: you have questions about it, guess what we got. We
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  Speaker 1: gonna have our coming up real song, real song. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we can ask the right questions. But right now, girl,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about how this book differs from the other
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  Speaker 1: projects that you've You've written three books prior to this,
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  Speaker 1: so this is book number four.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, so actually I have so many more other books.
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  Speaker 4: I just have not done the work of publishing.
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  Speaker 1: So you published. This is your book number This is
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  Speaker 1: actually book number two technically of publish. Okay, what is
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  Speaker 1: the other two books that we have? Holy? Holy, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and then this one published?
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  Speaker 4: But I have several other books under my business with
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  Speaker 4: Branca Hardy and healing services. So there are so many
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  Speaker 4: mother and father wounds. I have manuals and so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot of books.
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  Speaker 1: So they will be published because they're already written, written, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I just have to do the work of Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 1: because I know too much. So I got I got
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  Speaker 1: a little inside, I got at Okay, that's okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: okay because I wasn't wrong. But but no, what makes
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  Speaker 1: this Because I know Holy Holy was basically about not
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  Speaker 1: just purification, but becoming one with God. How does this
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  Speaker 1: differ because now that we go from being one with God,
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  Speaker 1: now we're talking about the supernatural, which is a scary
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  Speaker 1: word the people. So how do we come about on
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  Speaker 1: this project?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this journey was completely different from Holy Holy.
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  Speaker 4: Holy Holy was very i would say impromptu. I woke
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  Speaker 4: up early October around this time and the Lord was like,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna write a book, and I'm like okay, and
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  Speaker 4: he started giving it to me very fast. Actually, me
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  Speaker 4: and Jessica were in I think Pensacola. We went for
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  Speaker 4: a conference and we were at the hotel. We had
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  Speaker 4: downtime a little bit. I'm writing the book during that time,
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  Speaker 4: like finishing up, and She's like, whatch your work on
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just working on you, no details, And
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  Speaker 4: so it was very rush well with this new book.
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  Speaker 4: Just starting this supernatural. In a moment where I felt
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  Speaker 4: my normal self being like, oh, I ready to rush,
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  Speaker 4: because that's what I did last time, I felt.
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  Speaker 1: Myself saying I'm not going to rush. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: my editor. I was like, let's just flow with it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not rush.
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  Speaker 4: Even in moments where I felt like, oh this is now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm having like warfare coming along with writing this book.
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  Speaker 4: And it wasn't really the writing part portion of it,
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  Speaker 4: but more so the editing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of things of oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is the wrong edits in this Like, it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that going on.
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  Speaker 4: With the cover, there was a lot of oh this
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  Speaker 4: is the wrong size, and I had a lot of that,
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  Speaker 4: And even in those moments, I had to remind.
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  Speaker 1: Myself just go with the flow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So this book was actually completed in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 4: but it's now just not coming out to talk more
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  Speaker 4: about the process of creating this.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I had a little bit more fun
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  Speaker 1: with it. I wrote this book in the summer of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and so I did something different. I
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  Speaker 1: used my technology, so I had my voice memo up,
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  Speaker 1: and it's for me. It's easier to speak things better
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  Speaker 1: than writing.
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  Speaker 4: And I know that maybe weird to say, but maybe
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  Speaker 4: that gives some freedom for those writers or authors who
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  Speaker 4: are like, I'm going to write a book.
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  Speaker 1: The Lord told me to write a book, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't like writing. Yeah, me either, That's good. So I
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  Speaker 1: would use my voice memo and I used a otter
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  Speaker 1: ai is what it called. It'll transcribe what you've written,
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  Speaker 1: and I would go in and edit that.
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  Speaker 4: I put myself on a strict timeline. So when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to writing books, you have to be disciplined, and
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  Speaker 4: that is so hard. So I would put myself on
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  Speaker 4: a strict guideline of I have to finish a chapter
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  Speaker 4: within two weeks, So I at least have to have
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  Speaker 4: a completed chapter within two weeks, not even talking about
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  Speaker 4: the editing already anything. Just let me have a wealth
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  Speaker 4: of information to complete a chapter every two weeks. And
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  Speaker 4: when I would kind of get off my little plan, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I would, Okay, let me just shut it down. Let
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  Speaker 4: me set my timer for fifteen minutes. If I can
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  Speaker 4: commit to fifteen minutes just working.
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  Speaker 1: Then you know you get in the group.
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  Speaker 4: Now I can add another fifteen minutes. Now I'm thirty
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  Speaker 4: minutes in of writing my book. So I was more
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  Speaker 4: strict as far as my guidelines, but I was also
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  Speaker 4: giving myself freedom of the Lord.
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  Speaker 1: Will allow it to come out when it needs to
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  Speaker 1: come out. So's no, that's everything that you just said
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  Speaker 1: is so powerful because we're talking about planning. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about how do you plan something as you're giving God
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  Speaker 1: leeway and room to do what he wants to do, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it's almost we were recently talking about writing the vision,
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  Speaker 1: making it plain, and it's almost like thinking about the vision. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you have this vision of this book, right, but allowing
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  Speaker 1: God to take the vision and run with it for you.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think there's some part like really good.
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  Speaker 1: I do not want to take take it for granted
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  Speaker 1: that people understand language. So let's go back to when
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  Speaker 1: you said that you felt like this book presented more warfare.
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  Speaker 1: What is warfare? And how do I know I'm experiencing it?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So yeah, I definitely felt like this book had
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  Speaker 4: more levels of warfare. I feel like in the last
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  Speaker 4: my first book published one I didn't really experience any warfare.
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  Speaker 1: At least not to my knowledge. For this one.
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  Speaker 4: The warfare for me was the constant of Okay, the
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  Speaker 4: book is. I was completely done with my portion of it.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm sending it over to the editor. Well, there
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  Speaker 4: were so many moments of Okay, send me this one, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's not working. Oh I sent you the wrong one,
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  Speaker 4: let me like. There was a lot of that, and
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  Speaker 4: I was cool. It caused me to question, like, Lord, okay,
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  Speaker 4: did I hear you right?
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  Speaker 1: Like? Is this the right timing? Is this just a
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  Speaker 1: natural thing?
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  Speaker 4: Because even though I am someone that is spiritual, I
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  Speaker 4: often settle myself down of is this.
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  Speaker 1: Spiritual or is this practical? Is this just natural?
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  Speaker 4: And so I was questioning that in some aspects, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was natural. In some aspects, I think part
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  Speaker 4: of the book it was warfare.
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  Speaker 1: Like with the editing thing. I think that was probably natural.
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  Speaker 4: With the cover because it was so things things of
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  Speaker 4: like the sizing of it, and the person that was
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  Speaker 4: doing it was meeting the right template of all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Until I had my editor to help out with that,
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  Speaker 1: it was so much warfare.
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  Speaker 4: With that, I'm just like, I want this cover, like
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to change my cover And that's so funny, Desay.
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  Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about that earlier, but.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like that was warfare because for me, it
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  Speaker 4: felt like, hmmm, is this delay? And so I think
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  Speaker 4: one way that you can kind of know if it's
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  Speaker 4: warfare of kind of putting that before God or if
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you don't really hear from God, put
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  Speaker 4: it before yourself. Is this a natural thing that I'm
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  Speaker 4: feeling or is this like not natural, it's just unnatural.
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  Speaker 1: This this kind of pushback? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Right, And then having that relationship with God, you can
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  Speaker 4: lean on that and say, Okay, Lord, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 4: what this is. But what I do know Lord is
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  Speaker 4: that despite whether it is warfare or not, whether this
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  Speaker 4: is your leading, because we can say it's warfare, but
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  Speaker 4: the warfare could be God. God could have been the
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  Speaker 4: one making sure the edited was delayed, making sure the
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  Speaker 4: cover was delayed, and we're calling it warfare, and we
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  Speaker 4: could let's say it is warfare, but it's God's warfare.
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  Speaker 1: I want this to be delayed. What happens when God
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  Speaker 1: wants your project to be delayed? What happens? Come on now? No,
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  Speaker 1: no talk? Well, you get into a point because people
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  Speaker 1: people always blame the devil, yes, for what they're experiencing,
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  Speaker 1: But the devi is not more powerful God. The devil
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  Speaker 1: ain't even as interested in you more than God is
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  Speaker 1: injury you because the devil can't see down the line
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  Speaker 1: like God. He can only go from the past to
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  Speaker 1: bring to your present. He can't go to your future
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  Speaker 1: and bring break, you know, bring frustration to something God
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  Speaker 1: has ordained. He can only have an idea of what's
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  Speaker 1: based on the evidence of your The Bible says if
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  Speaker 1: the enemy had a.
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  Speaker 4: Known the total glory of Jesus, he probably wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: did what he did.
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  Speaker 1: So that just lets you know. Like you said, the
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  Speaker 1: devil doesn't know everything.
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  Speaker 4: He's a spirit, right, and so he knows recognize the spirit,
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  Speaker 4: so he can discern when someone has a star above
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  Speaker 4: their head like they discern Jesus, right, so he can
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  Speaker 4: discern these things about us using familiar spirits and all
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  Speaker 4: these demonic powers. However, he does like you said, he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't know our total future. He can only well, I
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  Speaker 4: see she got glory on her. Well, I see this
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  Speaker 4: book carries glory. Well, I see this book can help
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  Speaker 4: this person and this person and this person, so let
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  Speaker 4: me try to distract that. But the Lord will also say,
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  Speaker 4: I know that you have glory, and I know that
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  Speaker 4: this book has glory, and I know this book can
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  Speaker 4: help this person, this person because I know that I
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  Speaker 4: can delay this here to make it set up for
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  Speaker 4: this person that this book and their season collides at
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  Speaker 4: the right time.
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  Speaker 1: God is a god of opportune time, that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: He works with the Cairos and the Chronos.
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  Speaker 4: The cairos meaning he works with the supernatural timing, right,
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  Speaker 4: he knows above time, but he also works with the
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  Speaker 4: chronos time, the chronological order of things, and when those
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  Speaker 4: things collide, whether it's delay or acceleration, when the Lord
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  Speaker 4: does it, it's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: God is so good, y'all, so good.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, It's so dope that we're talking about this because
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the reason why I had to write the
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  Speaker 2: book in the season I had to write the book
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  Speaker 2: in was a requirement for a mentorship program that I'm in, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so the Lord knew that the only way this
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  Speaker 2: thing was gonna get out for real was to put
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  Speaker 2: a little a require on it, right, So in the
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  Speaker 2: in the community, in my class. So this I'm technically
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  Speaker 2: in year two, though it was a class before us
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  Speaker 2: and they had to write their books too. So in
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  Speaker 2: my class, I've connected with one of my classmates and
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  Speaker 2: I was I was helping her with her marketing part
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  Speaker 2: because she's going through a publisher and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: But she was so.
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  Speaker 2: Anxious about the part of like, hey, I'm responsible for
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  Speaker 2: marketing this thing. I don't I'm not even on social
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  Speaker 2: media like that. I don't have the following all these things.
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  Speaker 2: So we created her plan and so she wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do thirty thirty days. She wanted to post every day
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  Speaker 2: for thirty days open to her book lunch, which I
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  Speaker 2: thought was great, but I was I asked to get
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, you.
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  Speaker 1: Shit, is what you want to do?
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  Speaker 2: Created this whole beautiful plan. I think her her initial
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: launch date was October to twenty ninth. Well from the editor,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: they what she was she said, well, they had taken
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: on too much. Just what she said, they had taken
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: on too much, and they had pushed her her book
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: back out probably about almost a month.
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  Speaker 1: So now she's getting discouraged.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: You know, She's like, I don't know what to do,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Like I don't want to lose this momentum that we've
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: been we've been I've been posting, and she's getting comfortable
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: with the plan that we had.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I said, Hey, you know
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay, Like.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, for whatever reason like
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it has, it's gonna take a little bit more time
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: for the Lord to do whatever he needs to do
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  Speaker 2: with this book.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows why, Like he said, like, it's a timing thing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: But I said, what I don't want you to do
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: is get discouraged and stop doing the thing that the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Lord is trying to get you to do, which is
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to start showing up and allow people to hear your voice. Right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: So she we altered the plan, and so she still
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: posted about her book, and so once it got ready
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to come out, it's like now she has this momentum
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to not just hey, it's about this book, but now
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, the Lord is like, no, I got
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: something else that I need you to be.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: This was just the training for what I need you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to do, you know what I'm saying. So that's good.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: We had to look at it like it's this warfare,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: it's just the Lord.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: It's just like X y and Z and I'm just
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: so grateful that she can see you to push through
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the kind of same thing with you.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It could have been like, oh, this thing is like delayed?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Is this is that? And what the enemy would want
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to do is get you to stop. Yep, you know
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so in those moments, I love that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: It's a practical question. Hey, is this spiritual or is
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: this like a natural thing? You know what I'm saying,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And keep pushing this so good.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So I think also it shows the diligence that you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: how you trust God. You choose to trust God with
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: your processes like I know you personally, and so it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: a real thing, you guys, where she trusts God and
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: everything real, okay, everything, And so I think it comes
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: out even in this to where and I want to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: make sure I repeat this so that our listeners can
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: can make sure they meditate on this. You birth this
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: out twenty twenty four. You couldn't present your baby until
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That's like being in a hidden place,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: like God saying, go to the cave, right, you can
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: come out the cave, but they can't come on now,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I gotta keep this hidden and when I tell you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to bring this thing out, It's gonna come out in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: my glory. So now it's the time for the supernatural
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: not only to be understood, but I, oh lord, now
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: this is about thet I feel like the especially in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the times that we are in this earth, that the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: supernatural is about to heighten and a lot of people
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: may not understand it. This is so good. So I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was watching a clip from Lacrae, even familiar with him,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and he has a podcast and he was talking about
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk and he was talking about
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that he had an open vision and he never had
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: an open vision before. Like he's like, I'm not even
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: this type of person. So he was like it was weird.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: He was in Africa or something like that. He says,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in this open vision before it happened, He's like he
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: woke up and his stomach was hurt and he thought
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: he just ate something that didn't agree with him. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the vision comes and it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was purple and he saw Charlie Kirk getting assassinated. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: then he's like he heard demons laughing. That's what this
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: is why he said, Now he don't normally do like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: spiritual tapped in five four ministry type stuff. So I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: think even when he's revealing this, he's nervous about saying
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it because it's different. Yes, Christians, do you really think
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that we want to go around say, you know what,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I saw the Lord and I was all the way
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: awake and the demons I saw? That is? How do
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you explain that? And so for people that have especially
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: believers that are called to present the supernatural and projected
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and walk in it, how would you encourage them in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: their ability to is in it to people that may
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: or may not understand.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So when I kind of got trained up in
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the prophetic, one of the things that I had to learn,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: even as specifically as a seer is learning that how
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I see it and finding the language to explain that,
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  Speaker 4: because and when you honestly, if you look at those biblically,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you look at John and you look at Paul, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: they have these supernatural experiences and Peter, they struggle to
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: kind of let you understand what's happening in revelations. As
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: John is talking and you're like, He's like, I see
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: a wheel and it got this many eyes on it
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: and it's rolling in it's and it's rolling backwards and
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: it's rolling forward. All seers, right, we have this prophetic
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: anointing to scene. We struggle with that language, and so
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: it's just really just tapping in doing your best. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: teach people. I teach them what do you see? Okay, Now,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: if we're talking about pray, pray what you see. If
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: you see someone holding a water bottle and they're drinking gat,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: what do you think God.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Is saying that? Oh? Maybe refreshing?
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's pray that God. I pray that your people
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: pick up the water that you're giving them so that
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: they can drink it. So literally, how I teach people
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: what they see? You have to, as the Lord gives
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: it to you, say exactly what you see, and don't be.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Worried about if someone understands it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Fully, don't be worried about how they may perceive you
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: as crazy or wonky, because sometimes in the supernatural.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: God will show you some wonky things like I would
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: uh say that experience that Lukray probably.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: He was like huh, yeah, like that can feel really wonky.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: But being comfortable with your gift really is where it starts.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And once you're comfortable with with your gift of Hey,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I see strange things.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and now I'm going.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: To allow the Holy Spirit to teach me how to
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: share this strange thing. But yeah, the supernatural is so
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: fun to me. I love the prophetic, Yeah, I love it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I love training others in the prophetic. I love reading
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: about the prophetic. I hate when people are prideful in
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the prophetic.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: That's my thing.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: So I had one season where talking about the supernatural.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I had one season where you know, you when you're
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: first learning that you're prophetic, you're all in. You know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: we all had those ex carriage where you want to
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: dive in, you want to read the book videos. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: then after I went past that phase and I was settled,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: started to realize, okay, who the Lord had called me
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Then I started to see how the church looked at
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the prophet. I didn't like how the church was.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: How does the church, Oh, the church just magnifies the
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: prophet and they just worship the prophet and all this stuff.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, Jesus is the prophet, Yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: are you worshiping him?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And so I and I would also hate in the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: same breath how some profits would present themselves like there,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know this profit, but it was an old
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: video that had surfaced and somebody while she was prophesying,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: somebody had walked past her and she was.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Like, don't walk past the prophet. Like, oh, when I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: tell you made my skin crawl.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: And so I had a very much season where I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: was just like, Lord, I love the prophety, but I
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: do not like your church and how they liked it
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: thinking about a profit like I'm still in that place,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: but not so much of her that I was.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It breaks me because that part. And I think because
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because we we tapped into us something now because I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: get it and we have people on like the show,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: people come to me behind closed doors or whatever. I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: think that's also, if I can be quite honest, that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: why it's hard for me to even say I'm a prophet.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I never said. I've never said this on my platform
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: until right now. I probably won't say it again. It's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable for me because I feel like that closes the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: door for the people that I'm called to. I feel
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: like the supernatural can can be more comfortable. Even when
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you talked about getting comfortable with the supernatural, whatever that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and I want you to explain what that looks like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: because when we're not comfortable with it, we make other
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: people uncomfortable with the supernatural. And I think you do
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a good job at it. How do you get comfortable
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: with it? Yeah, so it goes back all to learning yourself.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And I mentioned in the book the gift of discerning
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: of spirits, and any gift honestly is a continuous learning process.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I just had an experience at work this past Friday,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And you.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Would think that now that I wrote a book, that
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I know everything about Discerning of Spirits, but I'm still learning.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh Lord, what I saw is what you
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: were showing me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So being comfortable with knowing that it's you're always learning.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: So when we can get past that place of Okay,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I may not know it all, that's one level of comfort.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna always be learning this process. I don't care
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: if I write two more books about this gift. I'm
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: still gonna be learning. So when we can come at
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: a place of being teachable, that already creates a level
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: of comfort. Right, also being comfortable with getting it wrong,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: but having integrity and getting it wrong, that's another thing
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I talk about in the book of You're Gonna make mistakes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: In the Prophetic, I got plenty of stories making it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: We got plenty of stories of making mistakes and the prophetic.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: But being integral in that is also an important level.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: And I think because of honoring God and knowing that
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: this gift comes from Him, I didn't give this to myself,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: that allows me to be comfortable.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't have to be perfect in this gift.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Right, And when we try to be perfect in our gift,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: when we try to feel like we got it all together,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: then it's going to be uncomfortable.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: But when you can remind yourself, I'm learning here. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: don't know it all. I did not give myself this gift.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: The Lord gave this gift to me. So let me
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: get comfortable here, and let me get comfortable with the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: strange encounters that I may have. Right, going back to
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: biblical references, the encounters that they would have Peter seeing
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: a blanket come down from the cloud that has all
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: these type of animals that he grew up learning not
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: to eat. And then the Lord comes in and says,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I know what your culture taught you, but I'm teaching
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: you something different, and.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I say, now eat well, Peter struggles with that and like, Lord,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to eat this. We're not supposed to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: eat this. I don't touch unclean things.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the Lord was using that to open up
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a door to get him comfortable with his assignment that
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: he was going to go to, which was Cornelia's house,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: a person that was not Hebrew, right, but serve the Lord.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: And so I think also when we allow God to
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: when we allow ourselves to be intimate with God, it
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: creates this level of comfort, even if strange experiences come.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I'm open to what the Lord is saying. So I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: think the biggest thing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: In creating comfort is open up yourself to God, no
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: matter how he.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Chooses to do it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Because one thing about God is we may think we
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: know him, but he'll flip something and you are like, God,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: you sure as you because that's what Peter was like, Yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you sure as.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You got Because that when we're learning God in a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: different way. God has. God speaks every language, God knows
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: every word good. So it's our ignorance that comes up
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: against the will of God, not the other way around.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And so it's like you have to be remain teachable,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: no matter how much. And this is one thing I've
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: learned about our relationship. So one of the things that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: if you continue just to watch any of my friends
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you can. I didn't even put Desi ray in this
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to where it's like, oh, how do you know? Like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Desiree always asks me, how do you know? Like what
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: happens to you when you experienced it? Because I'll be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in a conversation one minute and then boom, it changes.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But I had to get comfortable with that because I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: would ignore the feeling, which brings me to my next
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: question in chapter three. I think it's chapter three where
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you talk about using the five senses of like how
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: do you incorporate that with supernatural? Can we talk about that?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Because I got some questions on that. I'm very intrigued
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: because the Lord is dealing with me on five senses already,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and so when I saw that, I was like, Okay,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: let's tap into let's tap into using our five senses.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So can we talk about chapter three a little bit?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And okay, so lead us. It's a our five siss
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is what? Uh huh? Okay? So I was finishing the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: song we go the song she's a teacher, he's a teacher.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, teacher babe, Okay, so we have our eyes,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: our ears, right, mouth, nose, and then.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Our feelings right that the hold on, let me make
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: sure eyes, ears, mouth nose, and feelings.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but there's another a six one which is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the nowhere. Okay, okay, but yes, those are the census, right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And so just like we have natural so we have.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: To remember when we talk about anything in the supernatural,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: that we are more spirit than we are natural. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: with that being said, a lot of things that we
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: see naturally, you can correlate it somewhere in the spirit.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And so that like we naturally have these five senses,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this came from the spirit room, right. And so God
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: uses all of us.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: He uses every part of us if we're comfortable with
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: allowing him to. So when we talk about these senses,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: the Lord will use your eyes to see certain things, right,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: he will use your ears. Well, you feel like you
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: were the only one that heard that sound, but you
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: heard that loud boom. I've heard many experiences where people
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: say I heard a doorbrow ring, and I went to
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: the door and no one was there, and they knew
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: like I got up quick enough to see someone but
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: it was a spiritual experience or what they taste right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: You get a sweet taste in your mouth, or you
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: smell bread, the fragrance of bread being baked, and it's like, well,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: no one, I'm not baking bread.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: But the Word of God is the bread of life.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And so you have these different correlations and then you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: have the spiritual gift of feelings. And this is one.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Probably that I love the most, and probably maybe not.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I won't say I love the most, but I see
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: feel that God uses the most with me. And that's
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: probably because of my background and inner healing. And so
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: when I would notice when with my nonprofit Dancing in
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the Rain ministries, as I would host vans or not
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: even just in that when I would dance and minister
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: to people, I would get would pray to the Lord
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: and he would impress a feeling. So sometimes feeling can
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: be physical feeling, right, you can physically feel a headache,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: we get those right. You physically can feel chest pains
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: and you're like, what is that? You gotta tap deeper
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: because the Lord could be saying something about the atmosphere
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that you're in or what you're feeling for yourself.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: But it also could be a spiritual feeling.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I spiritually, when I would dance, I would pray for people,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and I would spiritually feel a single mother going through
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a hard time, right, Or I would spiritually feel someone
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: has experienced heartbreaking, so they're feeling this feeling of heaveness.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And then the sixth one, which is a little background,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: how they came up with the demonic movie sixth sense
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that I was just about to ask you about this.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So and you will see in the New Age they
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: talk about the third eye. Right. However, over here in
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Christianity or in as.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Believers, we don't call it the third I I've heard
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: people say, what do they say in my They call
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: it my mind's eye, right, they say words like that, But.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: It's really just your nowhere. Yeah, you don't know how
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you know it, You just know it. And so and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I can remember more of.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Those experience growing up as a child, I would have
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: just I know, just because I know, like I don't
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: know no experience. My mom showed me a picture of
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: someone and in the picture, the young girl she was
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: not pregnant, but I knew that she was pregnant. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: so a couple of weeks later we found out that
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the young girl was pregnant, almost like how'd you know?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just knew it was my knower.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I love talking about those senses. No, he
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: really does. And you just made me aware of the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: note because like, I'm glad you brought up the sixth
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: sense because that's what people call it. Like in the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: back of my head, you know what I'm saying. Those
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: things are real. We just put improper language to it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: So we have to properly identify what it is so
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: it can be It's almost thank you all the spirit.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: It's almost like properly identifying what something is so you
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  Speaker 1: could nurture it, like a more let's take a more
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  Speaker 1: from it. For instance, I would never give a more
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: cat food. Why because she's not a cat. She's a dog.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: And so if I feed a more cat food, we
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: might have some issues because because she is not a cat.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And so it's almost like get feeding what's going on?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: The wrong language, get you the wrong thing, and you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: use it in the wrong way, and so you're like, oh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: this is good, this is spiritual, is from God. It
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is from God, but you're feeding it the wrong thing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And I think that we become scattered. That's how you become.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go i'ma lean it up just a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: little bit because I understand that you know, we have witches, right,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: they're white witches, and there's some really off the wall
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: witches that are just out there. But a witch is
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a witch, and but we know that that is a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: tainted prophetic gift. And so I can't this at the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: end of the day, like I can say that you're
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a witch, but you can come out of it, come
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: out of this era, feed yourself properly, and be good
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for the kingdom. You get what I'm saying. And so
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I think that having this language for our senses, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: knowing that the Lord not only created them, but he
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: uses them for the benefit of the understanding supernatural, it's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: very important. So I'm so glad that you brought up
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: your mother, because this book is dedicated to your mom,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and so shout out to Mama Hearty, Mama Heart, that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: is that is a More's best friend. Okay, that's More
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: left me for Mama Heart. That is a Moore's best friend.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: And so in this you dedicate this to your mom
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and you say that you you didn't fully understand until
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: now where you originated that get from? Can we talk
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: about that? That the aspect of almost like a lineage
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of discernments, and so how do you how would you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: describe because Mama hearty is funny, you went not off
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the real You just wouldn't think that, Oh she's got
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a concern and soul like you, because she played too
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: she can play entirely too much.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Yes, So I think that God, because
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: God is about legacy, he uses things for generations, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: so we often talk about how the enemy will do
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: generational curses and all that stuff, but there's also generational blessings,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: and maybe more in my latter year, I begin to
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: see more generational blessings that the Lord was bestowing upon
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: me through my lineage, not just spiritually but even naturally.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: My mom is in the field of education, and here
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I go founding finding myself in the field of education.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: But spiritually, my mom has always had this strong gift
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: of discern to give spirits and she is a strong dreamer. Okay,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: now that's one area. I'm a dreamer, but to me,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: there's like levels of dreamer. My mom is like the strong,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: strong level.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Of those dreamers for those that are out there, those
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: dreamers that you dream every night. That's my mom, right,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And so the Lord is always speaking to her. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I think she's still in the space of still learning
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: her gift.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: But because I can see right, the Lord has put
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: me in places and spaces to learn more about the prophetic.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And so even in spaces where she is still learning,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I can see, oh, this came from you. Yeah right,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I can go back on my childhood and baby Mama
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: just discerns stuff and I ain't have to tell her,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: and the gift was working even when she didn't know
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And so being able to just look at my mom
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and just.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: See this gift flow through her naturally, the prophetic flow
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: through her naturally, as she's still learning, as she's still
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: tapping into it. But being able to say, I know
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: that the oil was able to come from the head
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: down to me because the Lord poured into you.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And even when I have moments of talking to my grandmother,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: who is how do I say maybe religious? You know
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: how you know that that grandma is interested? Grandma? Grandma,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: we just we love you. I'm always gonna keep it,
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  Speaker 1: baby Grandma, Yes we do.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: But even looking I say religious because grandma knows church, right,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: but she may not know the spirit of God. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: hearing stories from her of saying, oh yeah, when this
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: person passed away, I saw them that night in my room.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Right, And so you see that seeing gift is in
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the blood line.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: But we also had in our bloodline some people that
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: went to witches to get advice and guidance.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, you're find against well because it doesn't
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: just open the door for you, but because my DNA
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: is attached to you, now I'm open to.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: That's where that generational stuff of curses can come in. Yet,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: because I'm already I've already been exposed to it before
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I was even born. My bloodline was exposed to this.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And this is not just my mom's side, but my
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: father's side as well. I've got stories where my dad
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: to shared with me that immediate family was pulling out weedi.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Boards, right what And so this is not like generation generation, No,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: this is.
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  Speaker 4: Like immediate So just imagine, and I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of us in general, if we can go back, we
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: don't have to go that far.
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  Speaker 1: In our bloodline.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: We can see witchcraft, we can see idolatry, we can
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: see perversion, we can see this stuff, and it's this
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: supernatural stuff that is at our door, come on now,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: waiting to launch into us.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all that to say, yes, I stand on
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the shoulders of Mama party.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: She has poured so much into me, and I feel
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: like part of me gets to pour into her. Although
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: she has so many dreams, y'all, I have gone into
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: dream interpretation classes. I can interpret my dream I'm fairly
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: good at interpreting others.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: But Mama hearty dreams, they stuck. Mama, You're gonna have
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to pray about it, much like can you can you
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: pause for one second because I didn't get the other five? Okay? Week? Okay?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: She started off. She started this morning, I had a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: crazy dream. No, I think I think that is very
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: very important. So I'm gonna I'm new to the belief.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I'm I have these things that are happening to me
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't have language for them. But I'm curious,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: outside of this book, what other resources can I use
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to embark on this understanding of the supernatural. Yes, so
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Say I'm gonna name drop shameless plug doctor faith with coma.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: She that's where I started, right outside of my church,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: outside of the Word of God, those natural those supernatural experiences.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I learned a lot from her teaching because you know
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: the prophet, it can be very new and if whether
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: you're a new believer or not, if you've never.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Experienced these crazy things, what you feel like is crazy.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, is this God?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: This?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Don't feel like God? Like, what is this? And so
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I would definitely say I.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Still send like people her videos, very like old videos,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: because that's what I started on them, old two thousand
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: and twelve thirteen videos.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Been around time watching those videos. To make sure that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: The experiencing experiences that you are having are filtered through
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: a righteous.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Channel, because it's so easy to tap and.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Find New Age guidance and instructions because new Age would
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: tell you, well, those numbers that you're seeing, those are
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: angel numbers and all of this different stuff.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And so it's so important to make sure the channels
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that we are going through are from righteous channels. Can
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I polish you right there? Yes, because I was just
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: having a conversation with people last night or trying to.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing about me is that when I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: don't have the language of something, but I just know
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I have a knowing right I don't have language for
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the knowing, but I know the angel numbers. Can we
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: speak about that one? Because I know you've studied the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: New Age and and this is this is for these
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Christians that believe that you don't suppose to look into
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: other belief systems. How do you how do you go
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in and grab folks out? Or you don't know that language?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Language is so important? How do I go to Mexico
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and not expect to learn you know what I'm saying,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like if I'm if I'm called to a region, why
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: when the Lord challenged my heart and learning these different languages?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: So that's that's just a frustration of mind. That's the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: evangelist of in me because y'all get on my nerves
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: for real, Like sometimes y'all too Like, Yeah, I do
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: think mature people.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Once you are a level of maturity, the Lord is
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: sending you on assignment. Yeah, he may get you to
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: open up and study those things.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I mean that was the case for me. What the
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: level of maturity? Yes, So when you study angel numbers,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: what's what's the opportunity there? Because they're called angel numbers?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So can you explain the concept of that and if
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: it's biblical or not.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, So we have to remember that Satan presents
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: himself as an angel of light, but he is not
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: an angel of light. He's an angel of darkness. And
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: so with these angel numbers, it is we know how
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: or maybe we don't. What the enemy does is he
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: replicates God. And I gotta give it to him because
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: when somebody doing a good business plan and if they're
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: and they're successful to it, I'm going to replicate it. Yeah,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: And so that's really what he's doing. He's think about it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Satan was in the kingdom of God. He knows how everything.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Works, and so he just takes his kingdom and replicates it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: But God is a god also of numbers.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: How do we know that because there's a whole book
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: in the Bible called numbers. So numbers are important to
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: God as well. This is why it took what forty
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: generation forty four generations for.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Jesus to come through.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: This is why the focus is focused on the twelve
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: tribes of the Israelites, and you have the twelve disciples, right.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: God is big on numbers.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: This is why Noah had so specifically many days for
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: to build. This is why the priests when they were.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: When it came to circumcision for their young children, it
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: had to be seven days like it was.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: God is about numbers as well. It's about a timing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, He's above time, but how he runs his world,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: he makes sure things are in time.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he does deal with numbers.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I say that to say that, and so biblically, biblically,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: because the Lord deals with numbers, there are numbers that
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: he highlights. When you look at the Hebrew calendar, all
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: of it is about numbers. The Hebrew alphabet, every Hebrew
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: letter correlates to a number.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Every number has a meaning.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: So God is big on numbers, and so the enemy
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: knows that, and so he says, okay, well, since God
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: is big on numbers, let me take numbers and add
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: my own spin to it. And so this is how
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you get these angel numbers. And it's so easy. Even
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: when I'm looking up biblical numbers, the angel numbers are
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: the first one to pop up. And so because you
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: see that, and it does appear to be good verbiage,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, they have good language.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: This means success is waiting for you and all of
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: these things.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: But the angel numbers is really just demonic interpretation and
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: a demonic.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Spin on it. If you're looking for references of numbers,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: there are many people.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I want this guy I think its name is Troy
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Threw viewer b R E W E R. He's really
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: big on numbers. He has biblically, he has a book
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: and everything in a YouTube channel. But yeah, angel numbers
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: are not of God. Don't look at those angel numbers.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: They will twist the word of God and kind of
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: make you look at outer things and almost it will
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: almost be treated like a horoscope. And so even for
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: us that as we look at our biblical numbers, we
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: shouldn't even be caught up on that because we can
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: too treat that as Yes, that's so good, Eve, God
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: deals with numbers. And you may see because numbers I've
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: been seeing lately are.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: To to two. They got angel numbers for to to to.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that I guess that's twin flame.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but that's one of the New Age terms.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: But I have to remind myself, okay, that to two
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: two biblically could mean so many different things. That could
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: mean the keys, right, God has given me keys that
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: could mean success on my path that could mean the
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Lord is telling me I need you pray.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, but yeah seek the Lord. Yeah, but those
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: angels numbers are no, no, stay away from the angel number. Yes,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and because it's a real thing, because we see numbers
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: out the tide. I remember it's a season, and I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: think you remember the season. I think I had two
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: of these seasons. Well. I was always seeing eleven eleven
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: mm hm, oh yeah I was. I was seeing eleven
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: eleven everywhere I turned. I was like, it was almost
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: like anticipation. Sometimes I was scared to look at the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: clock because I was like, bro, like, what are you
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: talking about? And I learned from you because when I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: looked it up, I thought I was you know, I've
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: looked up angel numbers and because it had angel in
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the title, I believed that that was what it meant.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But sometimes you might not understand biblically. And this is
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: my confirmation. I mean, my encouragement to you guys is
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that's why it's important for you who you're around, who
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you listening to, what what, what's could being confirmed? If
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it's uneasy that you gotta use your senses going back
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: to your city, if you're uneasy about something you should
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: get confirmation. Hey, I keep seeing That's why I can
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: tell her you remember the sea. These are two seasons
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I came and I kept bringing. It's like I keep
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: seeing eleven eleven. I said that out loud. She made
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Megal say, Hey, this is what this means. My friends
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: always use opportunities. We teach each other, we grow with
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: each other. And so your your your surroundings are so
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: important because you could be listening to somebody that really
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: sounds smart, but they're really ignorant, and I like they are.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: They sound so smart, but they say they have an
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: empty basket and we need to fill that basket up
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: with some new fruit. Okay, so no, this is this
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: is so, this is so good. So I'm gonna ask
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you this last question. Then I'm gonna ask desiraate her
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: thoughts because I know she itching to talk to you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I can just sense my friend over there, y'all. You
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: know how it's the excirement. It's already working. Go get
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the book. It's just right in front of me. You
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: hear me. That's that oil. So with you being an
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: author with this book coming out, and I know you
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: had different challenges or whatever, although you said there was
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a smooth, smooth writing experience. What would you say was
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the most challenging or most most uh? I guess I
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: would say challenging chapter to write or experience. And let
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: me see, girl, go ahead, girl, go look at them
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: chapters because you got it's seven of them. Let's just
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: let's go it south. It sounds so you can read
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it the most challenging chapter. Okay, my eyes are going
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to a certain spot.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: M h.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: And it's okay. She's able to come to your pick
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: after you read the book, and she'll answer a lot
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: more questions.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, let me go to chapter four. Chapter four is
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: entitled the Eyes of your Heart. And with this one,
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I started off basically with the rebuke the Lord gave me,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: and so it starts off, if you purify your eyes,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: I'll change how you discern. And that was from how
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: the Lord woke me up one day and he said
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that if you purify your eyes, I'll change how you discern.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: So chapter four is like came out of a rebuke
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that the Lord gave me.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: And so the Lord was saying to me in that moment,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I had started to and sometimes let me say, I'm deep.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm a deep person, Okay, but.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm deep, not just because I'm deep, but because
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: the Lord is taking me deep.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And so in a point in time, I'm like watching.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: One of my and it was binge watching old reruns
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: of one of my favorite shows.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I won't say the show because I want to convict nobody, Okay,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I don't, but I was watching, and I was binge watching,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: and there were certain moments in the show where I
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: knew my spirit would be like, oh, you're I'm a
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: little unsettled here, right, I'm a little unsettled here. And
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: it was also because I was in a time where
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I'm just really just consecrating myself before the Lord.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: But I would have my moments of, oh, I just
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: want to watch this show and just watch it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: And so I knew once I had made it to
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: literally watching the show. I probably made it with season four,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: and I knew the Lord was telling me stop watching
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: this show. Yeah, just stop watching the show for a moment, like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: so you can really hear me. But I didn't want
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you? I was stubborn, be honest. Okay,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: So the Lord will me up.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: And that's the first thing when my eyes open that's
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: the first thing I heard. If you purify your eyes,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I'll change how you discern, letting me know again, that's
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: what the Lord. I say that a lot because the
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  Speaker 4: Lord gets me like that a lot. Like Basically, he's saying,
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  Speaker 4: you're not hungry enough. There's a certain level that you desire,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: but you're not ready to cut off some things to
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: get to it, and so you want to discern more.
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  Speaker 1: But why aren't you purifying your eyes? But I'm like, Lord,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: this is my favorite show.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I love it is just reruns, but you know, as
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: you're watching this, your spirit is connecting to some things,
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: whether you want it to or not. Right, one of
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: the things that would come up a lot in the
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: show would lust. Well, I know one of the things
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: that even though I ain't got nobody nowsey, but I.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Still got to be on it all to praying against looks. Okay,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: So I know that.
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  Speaker 4: So therefore the Lord's like, Okay, if you know that,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: why are you still eating here? Why are you still
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: eating the show? So if you purify your eyes what
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: you want want to hear from me, daughter, I'll change
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: the complete way you're discerned.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: So chapter four was a four for was that funny
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that four coming up is coming up. It was a
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  Speaker 1: place where it came out of a rebuke, a whole
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: rebuke from the Lord. I don't know. Well, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna obey the Lord. I know you're into the Hebrew alphabet, numbers, calendar,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Hebrew for the most Hebrew. She thinks she Hebrew. Just
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit, we'll talk about the other ethnicity. She
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: thinks she used to h Yeah, but no Russia, Shanon.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Did I say that?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I've been I don't know why I'm asking you this,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: but I just feel led to ask you. So that
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: just happened too long ago. What year are we fifty
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: seven eighty five? We're in that year? What does that mean?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: And why is it so important to know that? And
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: how is it connected to the supernatural? So it's important
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to know what ye're in.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Going back to how God operates, He's a god that
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: works with numbers and all these different things. And so
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: what studies have shown with the Hebrew calendar, how it
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: lines up those years, we may see some things that
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: happen in our natural life. Now, fifty seven eighty five,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: I have not done study on that year, but I
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: know the year that we just left fifty seven eighty four.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I don't have my phone with me, but I have
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: my notes in there. You got her phone in her purse?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Can you bring ESD? Yeah? So you at all? Okay,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: all righty, let's pull up some things. And I was
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: confident I could ask this because my girl, you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: she likes the YouTube and she likes research, likes reading. Okay,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: So just this past.
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  Speaker 4: New year, the fifty seven eighty four, so Rashashana is
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: usually it's basically.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: A Jewish new year, and with that Jewish New Year,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it's usually falls between September and October.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: So this past one that we were in fifty seven
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  Speaker 4: eighty four, that eighty and four is the key one.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: So eighty is pay, and so that's.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Like the decade and pay is I remember correctly the mouth. Okay,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: So we've been in this pay for a minute now.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: And so it started off with fifty seven eighty that
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: pay the mouth meaning the Lord is saying, declare these
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: things with your mouth, pray more intercede, more cry loud,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: and spare not be bold in it. So now we're
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: die and deep more into the the eighty mouth. It's
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  Speaker 4: the seventeenth letter pays the seventeenth letter on the alphabet,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: and the eighty number is a numerological number on the
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Hebrew letter, and pay literally means the mouth. Again, going
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: back pray speak prophesied declare four, which we were in
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: was dialect, and that is the open door. It also
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: means draw out of the improvers, to weaken the poor,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: basically like a giving back. So fifty seven eighty four
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  Speaker 4: was represented as a year of where you help out
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: the poor. You help out the poor man, right, but
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: also a year where the Lord helps out us because
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: the Bible Hannah pray, the prayer of the Lord lifts
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  Speaker 4: up the head of the poor. So in that posture
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: of we are the ones that needing the strength and
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: the poor a different poor from the Lord. But yeah,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: fifty seven eighty four, I've got to do more study
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: on fifty seven eighty five.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, as you see, I got some you.
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  Speaker 4: Got some note I got I gotta do more study.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: I haven't had time for this new upcoming year that
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: we're in. But yeah, we are actually in a brand
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: new year, and you will begin to see how the
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: year this Hebrew calendar will correlate with different things, maybe
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  Speaker 4: even in your personal life and what the Lord is
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: doing throughout the earth.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: That's good and I'm just gonna trust God. That's like,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: why is this is so random for me to ask
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: her about? But let's Rossia Shawma. You know, I don't
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: ask them about that type of stuff. I don't for
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the west side of Barbeia, I don't know about.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: And then when you celebrate Rosa Shawna, they typically they
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: have apples.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: And honey, and it's like, may your new Year be sweet.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: It's a little festive stuff.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I get an apple just to say I'm you know, Hebrew, Okay,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: but let's see.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So fifty seven eighty five for the Hebrew, that number
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: is hey.
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  Speaker 4: So five is hey, which represents grace, grace, breath, and revelation.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: It's seen as divine invitation to experience breakthrough in spiritual awakening.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: So if we combine that just researching okay, I'm researching wildlie,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: combining that eighty which is the mouth, and then we
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: have the hay which is five, which is revelation, breakthrough, insight,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: combining that the Lord is saying, let us open our
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: mouth right and dive into the revelation and the breakthrough
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: that the Lord has given us in these times, they
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: are so needed. One more thing, as we're closing one
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: of those chapters I talk about, as I'm taking the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: invitation of the Lord to dive deeper into wisdom, he
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: has me to read two books, and that was the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Book of Proverbs and the Book of Revelation. And I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: didn't hit me until afterwards. I'm like, Oh, of course
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: you would want me to read those, because Proverb is
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: wisdom and Revelation is in its name revealing things, revealing
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: the unknown, revealing the concealed. And so I think, just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: taking this fifty seven eighty five, as the Lord is
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: saying to us as we dive deeper into the supernatural,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: that not only is it for us to real to
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  Speaker 4: open ourselves to be revealed and to see these things,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: but we have grace in it, right. We have grace
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: to tap into this supernatural. We have grace to speak
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: these things as so, we have grace to prophesy. We
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: have grace to not just build up a thing. But
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: the Lord told the prophet Jeremiah, I've given you power
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: to tear it down as well. And you know that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: it is a journey to go with God into the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: supernatural the Lord says, it's the glory of God to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: conceal a thing, but it's the glory of.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Kings to seek that thing out.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: There are some things that the Lord will cover up
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: in order to find those seekers. Right, He's looking for
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: those that will seek after.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: The supernatural, and so we will be the ones.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: That in the year of fifty seven eighty five that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: our mouths are open and open. Little play on the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: words we're saying, Hey God, Like Hey Grace, we're saying,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Hey God, we want to dive into the supernatural. Hey God,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: we want you to reveal the unknown to us so
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: that we cannot be caught off guard, but we can
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: know what is happening in the spiritual wal.
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  Speaker 1: That's so good. Yeah, that's so good. I'm so glad
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: you were able to do that live because some people
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: are like, how do you know she didn't know something?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: She went to her sources, like her resources, and she's like, oh,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: because I know what this means. I know I can
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: connect it. But you can never connect something when you
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: don't start, Like there's always a starting point, and just
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: know that things that I don't know she knows and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: vice versa. Like, so that's cool. I love that good.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: At one point this year, this month, I was wondering, like, Okay,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: why haven't I searched it up yet?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, right here, right here, because the people need to know.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's all right now. I know
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you over there, just in La la land.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I love I love, I love when like journeying.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: So I would like to say I'm fairly new on
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: my journey, you know, twenty twenty one. I think it's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: still fairly new, right so early on, I think the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Lord allowed me to experience things that I just didn't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: have language for, you know. And I remember one of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: my mentors at the time, doctor m sent me a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: video of Kenneth Hagen writing one of his one of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: his meetings, and this was so this was literally we
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: started learning about the Holy Spirit in January of twenty
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: twenty one, you know, surgery in February, and then this
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: may have been like March or April, so still fairly
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: new to the idea of like holy spiriting all these things.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm watching this.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Video and you just had to, like, if you have
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: never seen any of his videos, like he was so
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: like anointed and like the way and I think this
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: particular one, it was like this holy laughter thing. Right,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: So it was like he would just be like He'll
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: go like woo shit in the whole the whole audience
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: be like.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is happening?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: So like it's so it's so cool when you begin
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: to have these experiences or that like the Lord begins
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: to introduce you to new concepts and ideas. But the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: responsibility in that is to ask, seek, and Right, So
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just now getting to a place, a level I'm
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: gonna say, a level of comfort where I can open
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: my mouth and ask and seek God on what's happening.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Like I've had things like I remember moments where I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: would smell like cigarettes or like my hand, Like one
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: one thing that happens kind of often is like I'll
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: get a tingling in my fingers my hands.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like I don't know what ain't going on?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: And sometimes like if I if I just take a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: moment to ask, like he'll lead me some somewhere to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: do something or you know, whatever he's given me. But
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: so I'm really excited to dive in to this book
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: because like like just said, like, yes.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: You finished it last year. But the time.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Where we are now looks completely different from where we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: were last year, you know what I'm saying. And so
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: having some language to to accompany accompany us on this
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: journey of seeking and asking God about these gifts and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: the supernatural things, because it's this A lot is happening
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: right now, and if we're not discerning, we can miss
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: it and we can end up in the in the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: wrong places.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: So thank you for.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: I want to say, just to the point Desre just made,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: and this is why community is also important.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So I haven't had that experience of smelling.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Smoke, but I know someone in my community that has
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: and for them, so this is something you could take
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: back to God because it may be the same thing.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: But when they smell smoke cigarette smoke, it represents addiction.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: So it doesn't necessarily mean the person is struggling with
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: addiction to cigarettes, but it's somewhere addiction. And so someone
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: had discerned that in my community, and she was accurate.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: It wasn't smoke addiction, but it was this person was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: struggling with addiction of some sort.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, that's good teaching. Like community is important,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: community is important. This is some of the stuff that
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: we learned in the safe space, y'all. I might not
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: know it, but my community knows it. And man, God
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: did his thing when he blessed me with you aiate. Likewise,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say this, but I think I feel
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that to say because it's been brought up in my
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: mind three times, So you know, three is are okay.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: When I was sitting here, I was, I was in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: all I could envision what we were doing right now.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Uh is like the anointing of Sarah JS Roberts and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Anita Phillips. That's all I could sense, Like the Lord
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: was positioned us and you being the Anita Phillips because
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: she is she's so brilliant and she's actually I think
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: she's an l l MFT licensed Marriage and Family therapist.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: She has multiple books, she's grown, she knows the word.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: But she also Sarah up in a way that is unexplainable.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Sarah trusts her with her wisdom, her knowledge. Sarah moves
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: with her because she has not only regarded her as
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: a friend, but regarded her as a ministry leader. And
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: so I feel like I feel the same way about you,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just so grateful that I get to do
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: life with you, but also to see you in different
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: forms and honor you and get a chance to honor
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: you in every form. So getting to honor the author
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Brianca Hardy, getting to honor the prophet, that getting to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: honor the minister, but also getting to honor you as
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: my friend, it is the best reward. And so I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: just want to tell you thank you. I have to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: look up Anita. That name sounds the garden, the garden within.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: She's okay. I knew that name something.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: I went to a conference and she was a speaker,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: and so you saying that that was her message stood
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: out to me because she okay, and I was connecting
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: her to inner healing because she talked about okay.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I know who you're talking about. That's so
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: thank you, Jessica.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: You always have always, I said, getting ready, I'm like,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: my friend is type of friend and she can put
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: her friends on.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Then that's friends are doing something. Can you say that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: out loud? Her friends are doing something? Because I don't
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: want to hear she's been on her full signs because
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: she's been doing something. Okay. I love y'all, I really do,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: because y'all know I'm about y'all. Can y'all can backdpe
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: y'all you want to, but she only full times because
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: she doing stuff.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: And last thing, last thing, Jessica mentioned something earlier in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: the interview and we were talking and you, oh, you
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: said desertate kind of like how do you do that?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Like that? So she's always done that, she just didn't
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: know she was doing that. I can look back after
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: we got training, I.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Was able to look back and be like, Jessica would
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: just naturally in conversation profit side and like and I'm like,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: she just naturally what was doing that in college?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: College? In college? But we didn't have the language for
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: it because we were outside, right, But and she does it.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: She still does it now, right, But that was that gift.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: I say that to say her gift was working even then.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it will make sense once you have the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: proper language. So I know you, I know you said
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: last thing, but you are you. I am going to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: traditionally give you the floor if there's anything that you
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to make sure that you land the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: plane on or people to understand whether it's part of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: our conversation, whether you want to leave a profetic word
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: because we are towards the end of the year, and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: you might not be with us again until next year.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: So hey, profit propheside, this is the floor is yours.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Bubble up, Jesus.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: I do have a prophetic word in the book, okay,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: And so it is I do believe found in chapter
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: and it's more so of a charge, but it's a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: It's what I feel the Lord is saying.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: So let me go there and then we'll flow from
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: there in this out.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: It is in this is chapter one, page twenty three.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: It is in this hour that I believe the Lord
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: is saying to the ones that love him. Come closer,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: my children, and come behind the veil with me. Come
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: and see the unknown and hear the unheard. Come close,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: my children, and step behind the veil, and tap into
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: new levels of my gift of discerning of spirits that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I freely bestow upon you. No longer do you have
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: to be in the dark, But I've come to shine
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: a light on all things. Come closer, my children, and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: rightfully the discern the difference between the profane and the holy.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: All this is yours.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: All you must do is simply be willing to become
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: one with my spirit. So I land my plane on there,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: be comfortable with coming one with the supernatural, but not
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: just the supernatural, the righteous supernatural.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Power of God.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: The Lord freely opens itself up so that you can
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: tap into this gift that you already have. It just
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: has to be made and cultivated in a righteous way.
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  Speaker 4: And so I land my plane there, become one with
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  Speaker 4: the spirit of God, and get ready to see things
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  Speaker 4: you have not seen. Eyes have not heard, eyes have
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  Speaker 4: not seen, ears have not heard. Neither has it meant
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  Speaker 4: entered the heart of man, except for those that the
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  Speaker 4: Lord loves and reveals it to.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you. Amen, thank you' I said, look you,
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  Speaker 1: he's so fine, y'all. This was good. This was good.
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  Speaker 1: I think we say that every week. But when God
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  Speaker 1: is the leader of your organization, your business, it's always
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  Speaker 1: good because when it's finished. When he said it was finished,
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  Speaker 1: he said, what it is good? It is good. Amen,
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  Speaker 1: it is good. Well, maybe it's finished, but he when
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  Speaker 1: he created us, he said that we were good. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why I was going. Did you see how ghetto
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  Speaker 1: I just got real quick. That's why you get your
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  Speaker 1: friends that know the word real good, Because I was
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  Speaker 1: almost We was on two different scriptures. Y'all listen, you
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  Speaker 1: really excited about our growth in this season that we're
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  Speaker 1: ending out the year understanding the supernatural, our gifts, and
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  Speaker 1: Until next time, remember life be much more simple if
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