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From gerrymandering to indoctrination, it’s the same power game · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  That's a lot better.
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  That's where you can find me.
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  However, I'll digress because we have a lot to discuss.
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  Major happenings.
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  It might seem minor if you're thinking Arcadia, California, pa, it's not that big of a city.
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  It's big enough.
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  Well, big enough to elect a mayor out of uh well, because she's a Democrat, basically.
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  That's there are certain areas in this world, as Nancy Pelosi said, she's right sometimes, that uh anybody with a maybe a glass of water even would get elected if there was a D next to its name.
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  Well, it winds up, the same goes for Chinese spies.
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  Eileen Wong, the former Arcadia mayor, has now pled guilty to acting as an illegal agent of the Chinese government.
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  That's right.
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  She was a spy for China.
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  You have Democrats dating, well, at least Swalwell dated a Chinese spy.
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  That's the one we know of.
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  How many Chinese Communist Party members or Chinese Communist Party assets have infiltrated the United States of America's government?
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  I'll tell you what, they're in our education system.
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  They're within our entertainment industrial complex.
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  They're in our political industrial complex as well.
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  Also the woke industrial complex.
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  They're all over the place to make this nation a lot weaker.
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  This is not unlike last century, where the Soviets had people infiltrating this government.
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  I know your lefty friends and your lefty teachers, your lefty professors over the years would have you laugh at the likes of Whitaker Chambers, who told the truth.
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  They were upset that he just snitched them out.
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  I get it, but the fact is, these guys had to be exposed.
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  There were communists.
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  They needed to be weeded out of the government.
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  Yes, I know your lefty friends are celebrating the uh what they call the greatness of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, probably the most dictatorial president we've had in a long time.
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  Until, of course, uh the modern day Democrats have decided to wrap their uh authoritarianism around pretty packages or grandpa e packages, if you will.
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  But I'll digress.
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  Oh, no, I won't digress because there were communist assets, communist agents throughout those administrations, who's to say they're not infiltrating other parts of the U.S.
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  government now.
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  And it's a fact.
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  It happened in the early part of last century.
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  As a matter of fact, major figures.
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  Yes, very well trusted people within the Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration, the rather lengthy one, if you will.
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  I keep saying that, but I like saying that.
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  I like saying, if you will, not Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration.
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  But again, let's uh let's go back to what we're really talking about.
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  They were infiltrated by communists from America and of course Soviet agents.
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  The media tried to laugh it all off.
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  Of course, uh, the U.S.
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  media led by the New York Times were already uh uh cheering and chanting the praises of the communists of the Soviet Union, some going as far as doing PR for them.
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  Some going as far as, well, handing out pillitzer prizes to journalists like Walter Durante, who are doing public relations pieces for Joseph Stalin.
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  Also remember, this is a country right now where the Chinese Communist Party has a little secret police force roaming around under, well, let's just put it this way, under the uh watchful eye of those in Beijing.
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  Also accepted widely by the Biden and uh and Obama administrations, allowed to run.
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  So their reach is still there.
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  Whitaker Chambers was right.
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  Alger Hiss, that's a he was a big name within the FDR administration.
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  As a matter of fact, he was a communist serving in the State Department during wartime.
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  I'm pretty sure a lot of them were uh were rather big on the idea of keeping the Soviet pogroms from public consumption, if you will.
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  And making sure that Hitler's atrocities were the ones that were broadcast around the world.
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  Where in fact, Stalin and his communist party did a lot worse and for a lot longer, and definitely decades to come.
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  Communists are still doing that, by the way.
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  There's they're finding what uh Yan Yakelik says uh the Chinese government called calls black classes, people that they're trying to turn the public against so they can throw them in jail.
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  A lot of them are religious.
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  A lot of them are outspoken political dissidents.
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  A couple other names.
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  Harry Hopkins, Harry Dexter White, and those are just the top three.
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  There were a bunch, a plethora of communists within that administration.
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  And they were they were sprinkled around to make sure or to have FDR make sure that certain people were in meetings, made sure that some people help make the certain the right people, if you will, according to the Soviets, would help make the proper decisions.
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  And again, I'm saying that in quotes and in the context that the Soviets think they're proper decisions.
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  The Chinese communists, I'm pretty sure they have the same thing.
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  And look at some of these people that are assets.
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  They're listen to the Democrat Party, the farther left they are.
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  They try to inflict damaging policy to weaken the United States.
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  DEI uh wokeness, one uh that uh whole that whole wokeness industrial complex they instilled.
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  That's uh that's a big one.
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  Then weaken the nation quite a bit, and that's I'm pretty sure uh a partial component, or at least heavily influenced by enemies of the state.
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  Of the state.
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  And I don't mean just the Democrats implementing it.
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  And I don't mean just the Democrats implementing it.
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  I mean outside the uh or let's say communist interests in China.
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  I mean outside the or let's say communist interests in China.
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  And they even let the nose out of the bag as far as energy is concerned.
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  And they even let the nose out of the bank as far as energy is concerned.
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  Well, this uh representative Jaypal character.
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  Well, this uh representative Japal character.
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  She and her ilk were going on and on about uh buying Chinese made wind turbines and solar panels, which will well kill whales and destroy land, if you will, and not even provide the energy they're claiming they need.
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  She and her ilk were going on and on about uh buying Chinese made wind turbines and solar panels, which will well kill whales and destroy land, if you will, and not even provide the energy they're claiming they need.
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  Whereas
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  Whereas now finding ways to filter oil to communist countries, Jal, especially with Cuba, that's the most notable at this point.
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  Because apparently oil is what we really need, but not well, at least that's what the other countries need and not the U.S.
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  If they really cared and stood behind what they were saying all these years, they would have just uh had us send some solar panels or or wind turbines down to Cuba.
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  No.
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  Even that greasy kid, what's her name?
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  Uh a Greta that these uh liberals seem to follow blindly.
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  She's even saying that well, oil is important now.
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  I guess not for first world countries, but for everybody else.
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  Well, China pushes the wind turbines through these uh agents or assets.
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  I'm gonna call them assets.
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  They are communist assets, JL and the like, whether they're paid or not.
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  They push this uh green garbage to us, China does it through them, and then they keep the fossil fuels as they're called.
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  They're not really fossil fuels.
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  I'm just using it as a term for oil and coal.
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  You ever wonder why they don't use wind turbines and solar panels in China, but they produce them and send them to the uh European, Canadian and uh US leadership through their assets or their Chinese Communist Party assets within each of their governments.
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  Full disclosure, I'm part of it too.
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  But with us, of course, is our president, uh Lieutenant Colonel British Army retired Tim Wilson and our distinguished distinguished fellow Carolyn Parlato.
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  And we're gonna be talking about what's going on here with this redistrict.
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  We have a lot of other things to discuss, obviously, but the redistricting wars have been a lot of fun.
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  I made about 35 bags of microwave popcorn in the last couple of weeks.
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  How about you?
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  Yeah, it's a good one, isn't it?
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  Um it is one to keep looking at for all sorts of reasons.
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  Um not least that uh it was against the law, and there were Democrat appointed judges, Democrat leaning judges, very clearly, and justices, I should say, of the Supreme Court of the Virginia, who ruled against this thing because it is against the Constitution of Virginia, and their idea that they'll now go to the United States Supreme Court, they're the the United States Supreme Court isn't gonna accept the case.
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  Simple as that, because it's all about Virginia and breaking the law as it as written and the constitution of Virginia.
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  Tenth Amendment, states' rights.
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  There we go.
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  And and by the way, Carolyn, it was uh Democrats who actually made this happen.
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  Really?
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  Well, just like New York, and and I wanted to go back to New York, and I've I've said this several times on several programs.
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  New York was one of those states that had awful gerrymandered uh districts.
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  We were discussing this back in the 90s, 2000s, because some of them were designed to protect certain incumbents, favored children or sons of uh of Albany, if you will.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  And that was unjust.
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  And the rest of us though, hey, who's gonna who's gonna be able to represent uh Hudson Valley City and this college town by the finger lakes at the same time?
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  Doesn't matter, it's about numbers in Congress.
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  But uh New York put together a or it's now in the law, it's now a New York law where uh districts have to be uh a more fair geographically written map.
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  Written map.
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  Whereas the same thing happened in Virginia.
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  Whereas the same thing happened in Virginia.
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  You can't shut this down.
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  You can't shut this down, even if you're going to try to overturn it, it's not gonna take four or five months.
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  Even if you're going to try to overturn it, it's not going to take four or five months.
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  And there's a compactness should be the test for all these districts.
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  And there's a compactness should be the test for all these districts.
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  And it so often is not.
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  And it so often is not.
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  And in North Carolina, there used to be a district that just stretched like right along is it 75 or 85, I guess.
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  And they in North Carolina, there used to be a district that just stretched like right along uh is it 75 or 85, I guess.
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  And
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  And it's 85, I guess.
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  But anyway, it stretched all the way down from I'm not sure where to Charlotte.
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  And there was a joke that if you drove down the road with your doors open, you'd kill every person in the district.
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  It just is long, skinny thing, so they could pick up another town.
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  That's it's almost like the Democrats don't hide it.
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  And the Republicans were like this too for a long time.
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  They kind of pushed themselves out of it in a lot of ways.
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  But you see this in areas where there are a lot of uh, let's say heavily populated blue areas and sparsely populated suburbs and and and rural areas, whereas it used to be where those areas would be at least represented by somebody who's who's who understands their interests.
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  But now, again, I'll use the proposed the proposed Virginia map.
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  We are cutting up enough of a section of the very liberal urban and semi-urban or let's say pseudo or or mini urban areas, if you will, because not all these cities are huge, if it's like like a uh like a Houston or a New York City, but you take these liberal areas and you kind of split them up just enough and you suck the rural areas in, whereas all you're thinking about are national social agendas, and you're not thinking about representing the people that actually live in these districts, and that's where everything went wrong.
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  They couldn't care less, actually.
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  And even old style gerrymandering was at least somewhat geographical when it was racial geom gerrymandering.
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  At least they had to try to get black neighborhoods in their own special districts, and even that's uh a stretch nowadays.
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  Yeah, I will say another example.
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  Nita Lowy, who is now um has not been in Congress.
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  I believe she's dead, but when she first was gonna get elected, they drew a district in New York.
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  She was in Westchester County, uh, which is northern New York City, but they drew a district, they went over the White Stone Bridge and picked up Lafrac City because they thought she would have a lot of votes there, and so she got elected.
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  And I think the next time she got elected, Lafrac City was there.
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  But then she was popular, she was entrenched, and so they redistricted to redistricted to drop Lafrac City and move her a little bit north.
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  And then as she got more and more entrenched, they kept redoing her district and giving somebody else Lafrac City where they could be elected.
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  And she finally ended up very far north in Westchester County because she was a safe seat.
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  It was really, it was kind of a fascination to why you never knew where she was gonna end up.
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  I remember that.
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  I remember that.
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  I think it was a there was that around the time they drew out, uh, was they were losing a seat and they drew out uh uh Congressman Gilman, who was my congressman at the time, yeah.
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  Yes, I think it was around that time.
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  Can I give you another perspective as well to consider on the whole Virginia gerrymandering thing?
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  Kim Jeffries has jumped in and said, Well, there was a uh uh vote by the people of Virginia, and democratically, you know, we won the vote by 52%, blah blah blah.
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  Um, yeah, there's a problem with that.
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  Well, there's lots of problems with that, one of which one of which is that of course that's 52% of the turnout, uh, as opposed to 52%.
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  And there wasn't a huge um, how should we put it?
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  There wasn't a great surge by the Republicans to get their people out to vote against it.
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  Um, and a lot of people, a lot of Republicans in particular did stay at home.
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  The other part of this is it goes back where I sat up and watched the two 2020 election results coming in, and we were still there at one in the morning, and saw the um the strange events beginning to happen in which Trump was in the lead in a whole raft of different places, and then suddenly he wasn't.
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  Well, these bolt drops, and they you know, the whole business about um various polling stations, uh various counting stations were closed, and then they reopened again later with again 80,000 new votes suddenly all for Joe Biden.
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  Now, my point is just this.
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  We are seeing information about there really were a lot of problems.
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  It was not um, according to Chris Krebs from CISA, it was the most secure election ever.
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  No, it wasn't, it was it had problems, it had huge problems in many, many places.
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  One has to ask the question then, although uh was this vote about uh gerrymandering in Virginia secure.
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  I don't know.
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  I wasn't about it.
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  There's another edge to this too.
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  Uh obviously, the Democrats what they do is they run a good ground game, so they're what they'll they'll collect the votes, they'll they'll they'll uh uh harvest, if you will, they'll never get caught and they'll never get prosecuted.
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  However, what you do see is that uh there are I remember I was doing I'll I'll take this to a I'll put a microcosm to this.
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  I was uh my first job was at a small station in Orange County in Warwick, and I used to cover town board meetings, yes, with uh and then record carts and sound bites.
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  I had the whole list, the whole thing of them and everything.
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  Well, there was one vote that was up very important.
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  It was a town, it was a town that was split in the middle Democrat and Republican, and there was a there was an interest, it's a big deal, and people were vehemently against it, one on one side, one on the other, not a lot of middle ground.
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  So what happened was the side that won was the side that the the supervisor was on.
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  He said he wanted this to pass.
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  The people voted in a referendum, but that vote was uh about a one or two percent margin.
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  So when the next town board meeting came, he said, Look, I know we won the vote, but the vote was so close.
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  I don't want to shove this legislation or this idea down everybody else's throats, if only a very small margin wanted to get it through.
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  So even with the vote harvesting, that uh that map was accepted by a very small margin, which would have shoved down the throat uh a large number of people, a huge near a huge number of people who voted against it.
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  Yep.
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  Um that's my one of my points.
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  If you go um nationwide and go on to any of the AIs and ask the AI to draw a map using the principles that the founding fathers used, you end up with a hugely different map.
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  Up with a hugely different map.
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  It's done by geographical area and what have you.
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  It's done by geographical area and what have you, and you end up uh with an awful lot more red, but that would put a lot of democrats out of power, and uh they will fight that tooth and nail.
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  And you end up um with an awful lot more red.
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  But that would put a lot of democrats out of power.
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  And uh they will fight that tooth and nail.
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  And I find it fascinating that the Save Act they resist in lockstep, and uh uh it's another uh uh asset that they have is that where the leadership says to go, they all follow.
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  And I find it fascinating that the Save Act they resist in lockstep, and uh uh it's another uh uh asset that they have is that where the leadership says to go, they all follow.
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  I think the opposite.
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  I think the opposition to the Save Act is pretty shocking, and they make all these really specious arguments about oh, it it's so hard for people to get ID, which is really not true.
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  I think every single state, you can go get an ID card, it's really easy.
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  I asked at my local Clork of Court.
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  I said, What do you have to do?
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  And they said, You just come in, you know, you have to have a piece of ID that that we use.
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  We take your picture, there's no charge.
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  I mean, it if you can't even do that much to vote, then perhaps you shouldn't be voting anyway.
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  Oh, it's it's always this oppressed whatever group here cannot do this thing that we really don't want implemented.
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  That was the idea.
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  That's that's been the mantra for decades from the Democratic Party at this point, and now it's it looks really stupid because anybody can get an ID.
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  You need an ID to get into uh to buy lecker, if you will.
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  You need an ID to uh to get into certain places, and these are the same people that wanted you to carry around a vaccine card for about a year to get into to go see your loved ones at a hospital.
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  So when you turn around and say, Well, black people are too dumb to get uh an ID, or or women are too stupid to be able to uh uh find a way to uh get an ID to vote.
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  That's ridiculous.
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  You're you're insulting uh a large number of the people you say you're representing.
• 22:53
  One truly one of the things I found interesting when I first moved to America to take citizenship here 20 years ago, was taking my English driving license and converting it to American driving license.
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  And quite honestly, there's this is a country where from the age of 16 onwards, it's almost a right to drive.
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  Um it's not a hard test, and it's really easy to go in and get your driving license.
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  And how many people in this country?
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  How many, sorry, how many people of uh how many minorities don't have a driving license?
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  Is it some huge percentage because it's too hard for them to get one?
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  Right, right.
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  Yeah, yes.
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  I just wanted to throw that in there.
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  There are now stipulations for commercial driving licenses that you have to at least understand what the signs say, and that does help.
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  Well, it's amazing how much it helps.
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  Oh, an English language country where you need to speak English.
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  What a surprise.
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  And there's another thing.
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  Apparently, somebody was this is uh a couple years, it was a bunch of years ago.
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  I was working at uh before I met you guys.
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  Apparently, somebody was a British driver because uh she went off the she went off highway 287 the wrong way, started driving the left on.
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  Yeah, that's not good.
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  I'm very lucky that I learned to drive driving on the on your in Europe a lot, so I find it fairly easy to change sides as appropriate.
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  Um, I have never yet in 50 some years of driving, found myself on the wrong carriageway.
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  I should ask this.
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  I this is I I I find I consider myself and all of us astute on things, but can you actually drive a British car with a steering wheel on the opposite side?
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  Yeah, on an American road.
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  Yes, if you as long as stay on the correct side, because then you know I I'd still love to get that Lotus 7.
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  Yeah, well, um, there's a couple of things in that.
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  The Lotus 7 is obviously a great car to get.
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  Um, I think you're talking a caterum seven nowadays.
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  Um, they're very a Katerum 7 is very, very small.
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  Um so it's but here's my serious answer to yours.
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  Um, the post office goes around in good point.
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  They all drive have the driving wheel on the wrong side.
• 25:14
  Um that's absolutely true because you have to put them in.
• 25:17
  Yeah, yeah.
• 25:19
  So, you know, it's not of course it's okay, and there are British cars over here with uh the steering wheel still on the right-hand side.
• 25:28
  I have to think about this because I it's been so long.
• 25:31
  But I go to England every year and I'll rent a car there and drive around quite happily.
• 25:36
  You get you you get used to it, you get the idea, and it you know, it's fine.
• 25:40
  The the hardest part is when you go to a stick shift in the wrong on the wrong side.
• 25:45
  Oh, I would have a hard time with that, I think.
• 25:49
  That would be a little difficult.
• 25:52
  No, it's just another tiny little level of difficulty, but I enjoy it.
• 25:57
  I I've always enjoyed driving, and uh, as I say, going back to the original topic, redistricting and what uh sorry, the save act and what have you.
• 26:06
  Everybody has a driving license.
• 26:08
  If you don't, it's because you've been caught drunk driving or something and you've rightly banned from driving.
• 26:14
  You can get a state ID too, non-driver's license, yes.
• 26:18
  If your driver's license is suspended, you can get a state ID in a loo.
• 26:22
  Yes, easily, yeah.
• 26:25
  Uh I do want to throw a couple of other things in here too.
• 26:28
  Um, Virginia and New York, by law cannot screw around with their district at this point, and it's important, it's important because it's also going to look bad in 2030 if illegals aren't counted, or if a lot of them are moved out of the area, yeah.
• 26:40
  And that's out of the country.
• 26:42
  But the Supreme Court did say that there's no need, or you shouldn't you shouldn't be racially gerrymandering at all.
• 26:50
  So that gave states that were doing such if they so chose the right to switch things around.
• 26:56
  Yes, and that's where Tennessee has done something.
• 26:59
  That's where Florida has made a have has uh I'm I was a nuclear bomb on the Democrats, if you will.
• 27:05
  Yep, you have uh Louisiana, um, and and believe me, any any state that wants to do that can, and now California's having trouble because they want to read gerrymander uh via race, that sort of thing, which they can't do.
• 27:20
  Um, the guys are doing it for that, and you and anybody that can by law change because what they were doing is technically not legal, they're just fixing, they're just repairing.
• 27:31
  Yeah, I think we all believe that the the left has almost perfected the art of lawfare and suing about just about anything.
• 27:39
  Well, California could be the classic place where we get our turn, right?
• 27:45
  If they try and gerrymander that, then lawsuit after loss lawsuit.
• 27:49
  And Texas is another big deal.
• 27:51
  See, the Kathy Hochel's trying to say we're getting even Kathy Oakle has been trying to pull this since she took office.
• 27:57
  Yep.
• 27:58
  This was happening before 2024.
• 28:00
  For 2024.
• 28:02
  Oh, yeah.
• 28:02
  She started it.
• 28:02
  She started it.
• 28:03
  If anything, she's the one that started the whole thing.
• 28:03
  If anything, she's the one that started the whole thing.
• 28:06
  Uh I would say it was earlier than that.
• 28:06
  I would say it was earlier than that.
• 28:08
  Cuomo was uh pretty pretty good at trying to rig Jenny gerrymandering.
• 28:08
  Cuomo was uh pretty pretty good at trying to rig Jenny gerrymandering.
• 28:14
  Yeah, and they were they were deliberately.
• 28:14
  Yeah, and they were deliberately, she was delivering deliberately, her and the democrats were deliberately trying to write, I believe it's the 11th district, yeah, uh Bay Ridge area with uh with uh Meliotankis, yeah, write her out.
• 28:16
  She was delivering deliberately, her and the Democrats were deliberately trying to write, I believe it's the 11th district.
• 28:22
  Yep, uh Bay Ridge area with uh with uh Melia Tacis.
• 28:25
  Yeah, write her out.
• 28:27
  Yep.
• 28:27
  Yep.
• 28:27
  And they and they got rid of Tom Reed that way as well.
• 28:27
  And they and they got rid of Tom Reed that one.
• 28:31
  Up up in the finger legs.
• 28:32
  That's right.
• 28:33
  That's right.
• 28:33
  They extended Rochester's reach down.
• 28:37
  Well, they already messed with the state.
• 28:40
  I don't want to get too esoteric for everybody with a state.
• 28:42
  Uh well, you you mentioned a really important thing.
• 28:45
  You mentioned a really important point there, uh, Chris.
• 28:48
  The uh when the next census comes in, um, President Trump's already said that he wants to make sure it's an accurate, much more accurate than previously, not including non-citizens.
• 29:01
  Well, they tried that before.
• 29:04
  Uh Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross announced that he was going to try to pull that, but he whimped out because uh he got shamed in the media and uh uh yeah, the Democrat Congress in the future wouldn't have helped him, wouldn't have moved it along.
• 29:18
  Trump is not famous for wimping out on things.
• 29:21
  Well, Ross did.
• 29:22
  It was Ross who wanted to come back.
• 29:24
  When he says he's gonna make sure, and if the next census takes out all of the illegals, it's gonna get really fascinating because I think the number of seats in some major states will change dramatically.
• 29:36
  We know that Democrat states have been losing people at a rate of knots.
• 29:41
  We know that Republican states have been gaining people at a rate of knots.
• 29:46
  That means more seats for Republican states, less seats for Democrat states.
• 29:52
  Yeah, I think Florida and North Carolina have had such an inflow from but particularly from New York and New Jersey.
• 30:00
  Tex has a he Texas and Nevada have a huge numbers of people coming from California.
• 30:05
  Yep.
• 30:05
  I really think the census is going to be very interesting.
• 30:09
  It will.
• 30:10
  Yes, it will be.
• 30:11
  And uh, of course, you look at the future of that, and you see a lot of these liberals who've voted in those policies in those states, they're leaving and infesting the red states with them.
• 30:21
  They're gonna cause some problems in the future too.
• 30:23
  But then we'll take some time.
• 30:25
  This count, though, this next count.
• 30:27
  If in fact the administration doesn't whip out the uh the commerce secretary doesn't wimp out of this idea, we're gonna see a very, very uh the democrats are gonna have a lot of trouble getting back into power, unless the Republicans generally drop the ball, if you will.
• 30:43
  Well, I I also love the fact that the radical uh left, the the communists basically, the real communists, the socialist, the hot hard left progressive socialist wing.
• 30:55
  Everywhere they've been now is in trouble, and in particular in the big cities.
• 31:00
  Um, I'm thinking, of course, of Mandani and New York.
• 31:04
  Yeah, the flight of capital, the flight of wealthy, and now the flight of the middle class is getting out before the taxes hit them.
• 31:12
  And the decades and decades and decades of failure.
• 31:17
  The likes of Gavin Newsom over in California, who was gonna has been promising to lower the homelessness rate for 35, 40 years.
• 31:28
  Only if uh President G comes, he'll just clean the street for maybe a few days at the end.
• 31:33
  Yeah, yeah.
• 31:35
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  Tim Carolyn, I do want to say one thing that really has always irked me about our side and then the news media and everything else.
• 35:24
  Tim Carolyn, I do want to say one thing that really has always irked me about our side and then and and
• 35:31
  We keep calling the far left progressives.
• 35:35
  Yes.
• 35:35
  Progressive has that positive tone.
• 35:37
  You ever notice that?
• 35:38
  And it's in the AP, I believe it's in the AP style book.
• 35:40
  They're the progressives, while the right are the far right.
• 35:44
  So you hear on in the media because it's their Bible, it's it's uh the prog and again.
• 35:49
  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
• 35:50
  But I've used the AP style book too in the past, and I know they'd pull this garbage.
• 35:55
  Um but if forgive me if it's wrong, but I'm but this is what they're actually doing in the news media.
• 36:01
  They call people on the let's say on the right, the far right, whatever what is the right of I don't know, uh Stalin.
• 36:08
  And they call people on the left the far left progressive.
• 36:11
  Uh Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, uh the progressive wing.
• 36:16
  No, they're the far left.
• 36:17
  We have to use this in our language and make sure it and people on our conservative podcast site even say even keep saying progressive, they're not progressive, they're progressive means you're you're looking to advance.
• 36:29
  No, you're trying to pull us back to a philosophy that's failed for over a century.
• 36:33
  Yeah, retrogressive.
• 36:34
  Uh I'll I'll just say that's why I nearly always link them all together.
• 36:38
  Progressive, communist, socialist, all the same thing.
• 36:42
  Um democratic socialist, no, it's a contradiction in terms.
• 36:45
  Socialism leads to tyranny every time.
• 36:48
  Well, and if you say to just a normal person, if you say something like, well, Mandani is a Marxist, which he is, right?
• 36:58
  Be horrified.
• 36:59
  How can you say that?
• 37:00
  Even if you use the word socialist, which is well defined, it's not, you know, it you can decide to be a socialist, you can be proud of being a socialist.
• 37:10
  But if you want the government to have more and more power and control everything, you're a socialist.
• 37:15
  But people that's pejorative, and people are horrified when you say that, even though it's it's a political ideology, and it these people hold it.
• 37:24
  And and they get their power through support through manipulation of the public via entertainment media, that sort of thing, uh, via news media.
• 37:33
  They also use uh they they uh they also censor other points of views because if they don't want you to hear something or that's very important information, then all of a sudden, you know, they're gonna they're they're going to uh they're gonna just double down and they they're gonna double down on uh clamping or or gatekeeping as far as exactly isn't it fascinating that the very the the woke movement was all about canceling, i.e.
• 38:03
  getting rid of, and even their own, yeah, even their own.
• 38:07
  If you step out of line, they step on you.
• 38:10
  End of story.
• 38:10
  It's uh it's my firm belief that what we're really talking about at the end of the day is there are two main types of people.
• 38:17
  There are those who criticize constructively in order to build and move forward, and there are those who criticize destructively in order to tear down the opposition, everybody else and build make themselves feel better by doing so.
• 38:33
  Um, and I'm just a huge believer that most of the left, the communist socialist, radical progressives, whatever you want to call them, they're all destructive criticisms.
• 38:47
  All they do.
• 38:48
  The entire, I mean, let's face it, at the moment, the Democrat Party's main policy is anything Trump does is bad.
• 38:55
  That is destructive criticism.
• 38:57
  Well, they also if he cured cancer, they'd still tear it down.
• 39:02
  Well, look at every communist country, they all they destroy knowledge of history.
• 39:06
  That's another one too.
• 39:07
  They did they try to destroy any remnant of the glorious days of the past regime.
• 39:12
  I I'm going to see Shenyun sometime soon, but the but the Shenyon Academy is right in my city here, the city I live in.
• 39:20
  And there it's it's about Chinese culture before communism.
• 39:24
  This is something that the the commies there have been suppressing for way too long.
• 39:29
  Uh, over here, the communists are trying to pull down old statutes.
• 39:32
  It wasn't about Christopher Columbus uh uh being mean to the uh uh mean being mean to natives.
• 39:38
  In fact, yeah, he and I'm gonna address this right now.
• 39:40
  Christopher Columbus was mean to natives to a point because he was also mean to his own crew.
• 39:45
  If they were true, he chopped the hands off of people and severely punish people who were trafficking children for sex.
• 39:51
  Now, the Democrats will either hide that or maybe defend that these days.
• 39:56
  Who the heck knows at this point?
• 39:58
  But the fact is, I I always counter that to these people, and the person that lied about Christopher Columbus, the bishop uh Montes Diorca, I think his name is no, it's not Montes Derophans.
• 40:08
  Bishop, I have to get his name again.
• 40:10
  I always it is scacing, but it's close to that name.
• 40:12
  I think Montes Diorca's a pitcher, but the bishop that uh the bishop that uh criticized and trying and tried to rant out Columbus to Queen Isabella was the one that opened the trans uh Atlantic slave trade.
• 40:30
  There's all sorts of contradictions throughout everything that went on, and and and of course, don't forget the uh the propaganda against Queen Elizabeth.
• 40:38
  Um Queen Isabella, not Elizabeth, Queen is a Queen Isabella, yeah.
• 40:42
  Yeah, that was that was horrible too.
• 40:43
  And and believe me, she was tough.
• 40:45
  All right, but but I mean, this same group of people at the same time were tearing down the statue of of Lincoln.
• 40:52
  We freed the slaves, but hey, that doesn't matter.
• 40:55
  He's uh he was bad, he oppressed them somehow.
• 40:59
  Uh yeah, by freeing them, right?
• 41:01
  It it's about destruction of history.
• 41:04
  This way, young people only grow up with uh icons that they're told to worship, maybe celebrity, maybe Bill Clinton, maybe uh a Barack Obama, the uh who is a lot of people are I'd really like to get Carolyn's view on how much of this is to do with the takeover of the educational system, yes, by extremists, left-wing extremists.
• 41:29
  It it's it's very interesting.
• 41:32
  I are they left-wing extremists, part of it is being trendy.
• 41:36
  I think a lot of it is the schools of education, which are really a problem, and I think they are extremely liberal, shall we say, socialist, and they had these.
• 41:48
  Well, hang on, can you say promulgate?
• 41:52
  I I I have to jump in there and just say um liberal is another one of those terms.
• 41:58
  Liberal means in favor of freedom in the right.
• 42:00
  In favor of freedom in the should be a positive, absolutely.
• 42:02
  It should be a positive, absolutely what we now call the classical liberal, yeah.
• 42:05
  What we now call the classical liberal.
• 42:07
  Yeah.
• 42:07
  Yes.
• 42:07
  Yes, liberal, and you know, should not be linked with communist socialist progressive.
• 42:08
  Liberal, and you know, should not be linked with communist socialist progressive.
• 42:14
  No, I agree.
• 42:14
  No, I agree.
• 42:14
  That that's a very good thing.
• 42:14
  That that's a very good point.
• 42:16
  To me, it's the education establishment has been taken over by that set, the communist socialist progressive type.
• 42:16
  To me, it's the education establishment has been taken over by that set, the communist socialist progressive type.
• 42:24
  They have, and uh it's it really is the schools of education.
• 42:24
  They have, and uh it's it really is the schools of education that are turning out these teachers, and to be honest, I mean, though there are obviously some excellent teachers, the pool of teachers overall is not as good today because it used to be that's all a woman could do.
• 42:44
  So the best and the brightest were only in teaching.
• 42:47
  Now, I mean, there are certainly best and brightest, but there are also people who are not the best and brightest, and they're not at all uh critical.
• 42:57
  They do scrape the bottom of the barrel in some districts because they don't want to they don't like the ideology of some of the applicants.
• 43:03
  So they look, there was this uh district in Connecticut where the uh the the uh superintendent of the administration the administration actually bel announced that they wouldn't uh hire somebody who's conservative, yeah.
• 43:16
  They were they were emboldened to do so during the Obama era.
• 43:19
  By the way, I wanted to get to this before about the fact that they that the left is trying to get the younger generations to worship their icons, and and Barack Obama's one of them.
• 43:30
  They don't know about anything else.
• 43:32
  No, now Barack Obama is one of them.
• 43:34
  He does share a strange, and I'm gonna say this resemblance to his mentor.
• 43:38
  Was it Franklin?
• 43:39
  Uh it's Frank Marshall Davis, right?
• 43:41
  Yeah, Marshall Davis.
• 43:42
  Yep.
• 43:43
  I'm sure now for those of you out there, I'm showing a picture to uh Tim and Carolyn just to refresh the memories here.
• 43:47
  But that's the yeah, it's uncanny, right?
• 43:55
  Let's just put it like this.
• 43:57
  Um, there has been this huge push, and uh certainly ex-president Obama has been a part uh a large part of that about getting um minorities and progressive socialist communists into education, they've been in control of the universities and schools for probably 50 plus years now, and what is the standard general standard of education at K-12 like it is way worse than it was a hundred years ago.
• 44:32
  They've taken it down and down and down, and we're turning out generations now that are semi-literate, semi-numerate.
• 44:40
  Um with the fact that you know, these kids are and graduating from high school and read it at like an eighth grade level, if that and yet they don't seem to no one seems to be sufficiently outraged about it.
• 44:58
  That's called how to create a democrat.
• 45:00
  Yeah, very much so.
• 45:02
  I mean, they they like to feel smart.
• 45:04
  There's a big difference between being smart and feeling smart.
• 45:08
  A lot of these kids go go through high school rather easily because they're not learning real math, uh, or the uh they're not getting into math, they're barely learning history, and English.
• 45:18
  Well, essays essay form is not even required anymore.
• 45:22
  Okay.
• 45:23
  Well, we're we're getting to the stage where graduating high school now is a another participation trophy.
• 45:29
  Right.
• 45:30
  But then it doesn't matter that you can't read or you can't add or subtract.
• 45:34
  What matters is you attended 12th year, therefore you graduate.
• 45:38
  And the and the SATs are are a different scale than we had, so the numbers look bigger.
• 45:44
  You go to college, and a lot of these colleges that turn out your uh your average intersectional degrees or your uh your whatever study your ethnic studies degrees or your women's studies degrees or intersectional dancing, whatever else it is.
• 45:58
  There are a lot of these are you know, 97% acceptance rate schools, then you have the big ivy league schools that do this, but these people make money.
• 46:07
  This is these are for profit because you don't really have any labs, you have cheap textbooks, the kids pay for the textbooks anyway.
• 46:13
  You have a labs, the teachers are kind of bottom of the barrel.
• 46:15
  So all you do is you're paying for professors to indoctrinate.
• 46:18
  Have these kids come out and feel smarter.
• 46:20
  And that's and Carolyn Tim, I want to just give you one more point to this.
• 46:24
  Um, the New York Times even did this a long time ago during their ad campaigns.
• 46:28
  They used to they used to have used to advertise subscribe to the New York Times.
• 46:32
  And one of the people who they one of the speakers in the one of the actors, I guess, in the commercial actually said, you know, when I read the New York Times, I feel smarter.
• 46:43
  I find that fascinating.
• 46:45
  Um the the great competition that is regaining momentum.
• 46:49
  They used to be a long time ago, 100 and some years ago, the New York Sun was the main alternative to the New York Times.
• 46:57
  The New York Sun is back.
• 46:59
  It's started to issue a print edition as well as their online edition.
• 47:03
  So I would encourage people to read it.
• 47:05
  And they often run um tests for you know, sixth grade tests from 190 something, 1910, um, or eighth grader tests from 1926.
• 47:20
  You'd look at those and you just go, wow, an awful lot of graduate students couldn't pass those.
• 47:27
  Oh, yeah.
• 47:29
  Well, and the other one of the other um aspects of this is that it was Dewey, I think, that advocated for large schools.
• 47:40
  Yep.
• 47:40
  Many of the very small, even the one room school houses were excellent.
• 47:45
  And and the the families didn't want to give them up.
• 47:49
  And so, in a lot of places, they came in and essentially tore down the little building school that was there and insisted that they be consolidated these huge um huge schools, which I think oftentimes are not good, even now.
• 48:07
  And but you have no choice.
• 48:10
  I mean, that this is one reason that so many people are going to homeschooling and uh you know, charter schools, because they're small and and they they're they can be monitored whereas these huge schools are out of control, and so often the administration, sometimes the teachers are so they try their best and they get no backing from the administration, right?
• 48:38
  Well, this is the what's gonna be really really interesting.
• 48:41
  That I have a point here that should be of concern to everybody or of interest to everybody, which is that we are coming into the age of artificial intelligence, some of which some of the models are quite good, others are absolutely lousy because garbage in, garbage out applies to every aspect of computing, including artificial intelligence or artificial stupidity, if you want to call it that.
• 49:00
  Artificial intelligence or artificial stupidity, if you want to call it that.
• 49:04
  But I always I thought before computers went mainline.
• 49:04
  But I always I thought before computers went mainline, videos of really good teachers was you know, used to be available of really good lessons from superior teachers on really interesting topics.
• 49:09
  Videos of really good teachers was, you know, used to be available of really good lessons from superior teachers on really interesting topics.
• 49:20
  AI combined with a day a base of really good lessons being taught really well, should mean in.
• 49:20
  AI combined with a day a base of really good lessons being taught really well, should mean, in my view, we end up with no more classrooms, uh other than for social interactions, and that will become a separate topic, and a whole raft of people in the education industry are gonna lose their jobs.
• 49:43
  And what are they gonna do then?
• 49:46
  Uh learn to code.
• 49:47
  Oh no, AI is gonna do in the coding.
• 49:53
  Well uh there are we can really go off on education.
• 49:56
  We only have about a few minutes left here, but there is uh if we I saw this even when I was in school.
• 50:02
  Um, you saw a lot of the uh I I guess uh a lot of the courses were kind of nerfed a little bit at times.
• 50:10
  Then the 90s came, and you had uh the uh the teachers' union, the uh the National Education Association trying to say trying to tell teachers not to correct uh not to correct papers and red pen, correct them in green.
• 50:22
  Then you had programs like whole language and invented spelling, whereas it it just made young people stupider, but it also kept teachers from I guess I'm I'm not saying all teachers are like this, but kept teachers' administrations from being accountable or being held accountable for not all or for a lot of kids either being lost through the cracks or just not doing as well as they should.
• 50:44
  You use the phrase that made children stupider, and I don't think that that's what's going on.
• 50:50
  I don't think kids are stupid, I just think they're less well educated.
• 50:54
  That's that would be the phrase I would use over and over.
• 50:57
  Well, any any child, any person needs to be challenged.
• 51:03
  I mean, they're gonna do a lot better, learn more if they're really challenged and they're and they will there are consequences, and the zeitgeist has been, oh, you know, we don't want to hurt their feelings, and so they're never challenged, and it's a great tragedy.
• 51:17
  I mean, there are awful lot of people who do not achieve what they should be achieving in life because they were never challenged, they were never required to really work.
• 51:26
  And by the time you're you know 18, if you've never worked, a lot of times you never learn how to work.
• 51:33
  Well, there's another thing, Carolyn, and you bring that and you bring this up.
• 51:36
  Yeah, the Democrats or the left within education has waged a war against a competitiveness and B advanced placement.
• 51:47
  There were nowadays you hear Mamdani, but this is this is also an issue with uh de Blasio, a mayor of Wilhelm, if you will.
• 51:54
  A lot of these liberals are trying to try to eliminate advanced placement courses or gifted courses because they said, Well, they're racist.
• 52:00
  Well, again, you're saying that, but I'm not gonna I'll put that aside.
• 52:03
  That is a racist statement, yes.
• 52:05
  But even in the 90s and the and the early 2000s, definitely the 90s, they were the uh education leaders, uh, public education leaders in certain cities were looking at ideas uh to have integrated classes with different speeds of people where the smarter kids instead of being challenged to do better, they would go back and help the slower kids learn.
• 52:27
  And all of a sudden you have everybody coming out equal.
• 52:30
  It's equal outcome education was the big deal for them.
• 52:33
  But it would have made things a lot worse because what happened?
• 52:36
  You're not challenging some students and other ones are still being forced to go at a pace that they really can't go.
• 52:41
  They might some kids look, let's let's face it, social promotion is not good.
• 52:45
  Some kids might need one extra year, one, two maybe to pass high school, and they'd probably come out a heck of a lot better for it.
• 52:52
  Yep, totally agree.
• 52:54
  Comrad de Blasio was uh certainly did a huge amount of damage to high school education in uh New York City.
• 53:03
  No question that you know, those places became almost um Jesuit in pushing communism because the mayor was communist and proud of it.
• 53:16
  And if you weren't on his team, you weren't gonna work as a teacher in New York City.
• 53:23
  And if you were a kid in school in New York City and you didn't fall in with that thinking, you got failing grades on everything.
• 53:32
  I'm gonna schools have uh have far fewer children in them because people have voted with their feet.
• 53:40
  Yep.
• 53:40
  Yep, and and again, they were also the same liberals, these same lefties were fighting tooth and nail against charter schools.
• 53:47
  They want to take they want to cut down religious private schools, that sort of thing.
• 53:52
  And this pretty much, and of course, they had this war against homeschooling as well.
• 53:57
  The fact is people are pulling kids out of schools because of their policies, because the kids aren't being challenged enough, and because they're uh they're at this point now indoctrinat young people to play the privilege game instead of teaching math.
• 54:11
  But to be honest, it's not just people who have a socialist ideology, it's teachers, public school teachers are very devoted to the concept of public schools, and they uh feel like public schools are going to be abolished and this is a bad thing.
• 54:31
  So a lot of times it is the mass of teachers who are they're not socialists, and they're they're probably pretty good people, but they are opposed to charter schools, horrified by homeschool because nobody can teach the children as well as these public school teachers.
• 54:47
  It's a bias.
• 54:48
  Um, and they are just so deeply opposed to these things that they will always fight them, and it doesn't even matter if you can if the statistics show that these kids overall are being educated quite well, they'll bring out like one family that was homeschooled and they didn't do a good job, and therefore that then the whole system's bad.
• 55:10
  Um well, using that logic, however, I'm sorry to bring logic into this.
• 55:16
  But over here it works, it's fine.
• 55:18
  But but you know, in that case, those teachers are all failures because the majority of their students are doing less well than they did before those before that their teachers were teaching.
• 55:28
  Well, they get a pension on the on the public dime.
• 55:30
  How about that?
• 55:31
  Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 55:33
  But I do think I don't want to, you know, it is they're coming from uh it granted it's a it's a place of um self-justification, but their motives are not, they're not really essentially political.
• 55:51
  They're they're preserving what they believe is how and they have been led to believe in all these education schools, is like the only way to do it.
• 55:59
  And of course, it's not the only way to do it, but they are very hard to convince.
• 56:00
  The only way to do it, but they they are very hard to convince.
• 56:04
  And I know we have like about a few a few seconds left here, but the idea is maybe it's maybe school districts.
• 56:04
  And and I know we have like about a few a few seconds left here, but the idea is maybe it's maybe schools, districts, the uh the end of the education department right now is is nigh.
• 56:11
  The uh the end of the education department right now is is nigh.
• 56:15
  But the per the department that takes over or at least brings education into the fray would probably need to look at the idea of hiring professionals from outside of the teaching realm.
• 56:15
  But the per the department that takes over or at least brings education into the fray would probably need to look at the idea of hiring professionals from outside of the teaching realm.
• 56:26
  Good point, hiring mathematicians to teach uh high school kids.
• 56:26
  Good point, hiring mathematicians to teach uh high school kids, hiring um uh writers or people like that to teach English, hiring real uh real historians instead of people who get teaching degrees and learn how to teach instead of learning how to learn the subject that they're teaching.
• 56:43
  But I bring bring you back to AI, which I think you know, when it comes to topic expertise, you are not gonna convince a computer that two plus two equals anything other than four.
• 56:56
  That's a good point, and that's one good thing about AI.
• 56:58
  The other thing is I'm stuck with the time, and I want to thank you both for being here.
• 57:02
  Carolyn and Tim.
• 57:03
  Luckily, we're gonna we're gonna be doing this next week, too.
• 57:06
  Look forward to it, Chris.
• 57:09
  Thank you all for being with us.
• 57:11
  This is Chris Scordani with Tim and with Carolyn.
• 57:13
  Tim Wilson and Carolyn Parlato from Project Sentinel, Project Sentinel.com.
• 57:18
  And uh let's all this is unleashed the political news hour on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network, and let's all unleash the truth.