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Bill Clinton & Fat Joe - #64 · The Grounded Show

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The boy Oh my back, No, no, you could. We just
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had to do the first ever podcast restart. We've never had to do that.
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But it was technical difficulties. It was laggy, man, that was
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I felt like that Key and Peel sketch. You ever seen which one which
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one? It was like on a video call and they were both lagging.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I remember the old damn you bought it back?
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That's wild they but yeah, man, I was saying originally before we got
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destroyed. But Joe's not here this week, and it's man, it's super
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frustrating because the podcast since we did the changes, has been doing super great,
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like on socials and stuff, and it's been reaching a lot more people.
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And we've been just real excited with the you know, with the reaction
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to the changes, and people definitely have been gravitating to the new stuff we're
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doing. Nah facts facts, I mean like for the most part, man,
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I know, you've been kind of on top of a lot of the
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commentary and things of that nature on YouTube and just all over you know,
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the engagement kind of what kind of stuff have you been seeing just recently.
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Definitely one of the things that was a big sticking point where people was the
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NAS thing, the NAS and Z thing that was the one that actually got
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the most interactions and kind of speaking to Joe's point. One of the first
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comments was somebody saying NAS was the beast, never like jay Z, which
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is kind of like the thing that I wanted to hear Joe's take on that,
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and we'll ask him that next time, Like, because he's one of
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those that's real big on yo, you don't have to connect him, you
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know what I'm saying, Like they're two artists, like one being dope shouldn't
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have anything to do with the other one, you know, yeah, I
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mean it's kind of like, I don't know, I feel like with any
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level of greatness and anything, they're always gonna be comparisons, you know what
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I mean. You got Lebron and MJ. You know what I'm saying,
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And I think, shoot, at one point, I mean, you remember
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fifty and Kanye was at the top at one point, and you know,
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fifty was like, you know, if Kanye beats me out, you know,
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I won't release any more music. And Kanye beat them out, and
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truthfully, you know, fifty ain't really released music after that. You know
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what I'm saying, but it just you know, from the standpoint of like
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anytime you have somebody that's great at something like and that's I guess what Joe
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is arguing that, Like, no matter how you slice it, Nas jay
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Z, they're both greats at what they do. It's just maybe for you
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one maybe for you. One may not be for you, but you can't
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take away the greatness of either. Yeah, And it's definitely one of those
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things that's curious because once you make it a thing where like people take a
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stand, I feel like sometimes it elevates both of them, like in it
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earrently, you know what I mean, because people look at it a different
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way because their expectations are different, you know. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
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that's dope. Man. I'm glad that that, you know, that
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got some engagement. Man. I think that's kind of like what I did
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enjoy about the change in last week's episode is kind of how we did what
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we normally did, but we also touched on a few things that you know,
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people are actually talking about right now and like just current events, you
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know, yeah, facts and even in the comments like it was brought up
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about I don't know, I don't know if you remember specifically this, but
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I remember like actually like tuning in from Orlando like to kind of peep this.
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But like Hot ninety seven had jay Z on after they debuted Ether and
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Takeover, like when they had the battle and they did kind of like a
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live vote and nas won like vote like in ninety seven in New York,
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and jay Z was like on the station, you know the whole the vote
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was going, reacted to it like you know, you like kind of talked
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about it was it was a crazy thing, you know what I'm saying.
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And now like people that that don't remember that or maybe it was too young
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or wasn't tapped in like that, like that was a crazy thing. Like
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they actually like played both of thisses like back to back and just kind of
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was like, Yo, who y'all think one type? It's crazy? Man,
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that's dope, don't. I don't even think I've ever even heard of
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any current situations like that. I mean this, you know, beef this
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is or whatever ain't even the same no more, you know what I mean.
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It's nothing like how it used to be. Who's throwing jabs now?
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Or a little baby in blue face like peep that bro I peep that that's
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crazy. Come on, yeah, nobody, nobody listening for that. I
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didn't even I didn't even like go to try to go find that brother,
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that that little baby talk that we had about like that album. Bro,
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it's just held up because like he's just like bro for him to be at
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the point now that he's this and Blue Face dog like, come on,
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man, like, ain't no way man Like, even in retrospect, somebody
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like Gunna ain't gonna beef with Blue Face right now, you know what I'm
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saying, Like right right right, I feel like he owned like a whole
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different vibe. And you see, he just performed at the Bark Ladies and
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he's basically back. You know what I'm saying that whole whatever was going on
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and even why Itsel was like touting his return and everything. So that's it's
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gonna be an interesting story man, kind of hearing what went on there and
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like what gonna young thus relationship is you know, yeah, yeah, I
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mean it's it's it's a it's a touchy one. I'll tell you that just
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from the standpoint of like, you know, everybody can say whatever they want
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about the situation, you know what I mean, But nobody really knows exactly
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what really transpired, you know what I mean? Yeah, facts, Yeah,
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it's definitely one of those things like like you said, like it don't
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even make sense to speculate because so much is like up in the air about
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it. But it's definitely an interesting thing just from the point of view of
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like how people look at it from the street side and then looking at it
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from the actual side, like kind of how both things kind of intersect,
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you know, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Bro. Like touching on some
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of the news man like mad random, Bro, I came across an article
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like you know how Fat Joe got them new terror squad Air Forces. Yeah,
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he got like his collaboration. He's been doing like radio interviews kind of
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going around, uh, promoting that. And he pulled up Bill Clinton to
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give him a pair. Bro. He was at Clinton man, and he
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like actually like gave Bill Clinton a pair of Terror Squad Air Force ones.
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Bro. Do you think Bill Clint is gonna wear him? Yeah? Definitely,
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Bill Clinton wearing the forces bright to the golf course just because like a
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ghost, you know, Bill Clinton gonna do whatever. Man to say you
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know that he was for he was for the culture. Bro, it's crazy
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to even think that, like that's even a sentence, you know what I
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mean. Like Fat Joe gave a pair of air Forces to Bill Clint,
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like bru hey, but he's doing it right though. Man, you know
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he's definitely promoting them because they look like they look like the pandas you know
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what I'm saying, just forces, Yeah, and it's like he's it's like
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he even said, like, bro, he's he got a collab with like
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an official collab with Nike. He's a super sneaker head, you know,
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he's just part of the whole hip hop culture. So like this is such
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a major moment, you know what I'm saying, Like, come on,
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bro, a fifty year old Puerto Rican rapper getting a Nike deal, Like,
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yeah, it's crazy, but that's big, bro. It's way bigger
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than than what it would sound like on paper, you know what I mean.
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It's like it's big, it's going it's going across like real nonchalant,
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but like it really is something dope. Like and even just his career resurgence
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that's happened in the last you know, five to eight years or so,
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it's been just dope seeing like him do that switch up. You know.
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Yeah, it's been very organic, it seems, you know, facts,
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like just organic, like nothing nothing for it. The here today, going
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tomorrow kind of growth. It's like an organic growth that's happening to his career
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and it's outside the music. So that's that's really dope. Yeah, facts,
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man, something I want to touch on and we're I don't want to
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get specifically in on this, but just what I'm gonna kind of attach at
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the end of it. But Travis Scott was recently kind of like in a
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deposition for the astral World tragedy. You know what I'm saying, the rest
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in peace to those people that lost their lives in that situation. But it's
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just crazy to think about, bro, Like he's really just like an artist
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trying to like create an experience and then you end up with like a situation
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where people lose their life, you know what I mean. Like, that's
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a crazy thing for me to even think about, like that just me trying
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to get my art across could end up this situation happening, you know what
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I mean? Yeah, I think like even like if you think about it,
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man, a lot of these artists, these big artists, you know,
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they know they're big, but I don't think anybody can even wrap their
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head around being big enough to have an event and or you know, have
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a concert where people are so fanned out that something like that even happens,
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because that's I mean, you know, people want to blame the artists,
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but let's be real, bro, Like you know what I'm saying, people
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are fanned out it you know what I mean, perfect example of that.
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I think we touched on it on the podcast. It might have been off
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fair, but the Rock thing. Bro, like the Rock, he got
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so much bread, he got so much stuff going on, but he keeps
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coming back to wrestling. Why because everybody always says, like as far as
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wrestlers and big people like that that you know, Stone Coat, Steve Auston,
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John Seen all them people, they always say that reaction from a wrestling
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crowd is something that you cannot recreate and you can't feel it nowhere else.
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I feel like that's why, Like The Rock recently just came back and was
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on SmackDown with Pat McAfee. You know what I'm saying. It was a
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big deal and he really like soaked in the moment and the guy that the
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guy that was like the main writer that worked with The Rock when he was
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in WW, that the Rock actually kind of took with him and used him
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as a writer on like his own project, Brian Cowartz's. He's kind of
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alluded to the fact that The Rock understands the special connection and he has with
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the wrestling audience, and that's why he's so protective of what he does when
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he goes to WW because he never wants to lose that magic, you know
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what I mean. And it kind of speaks to what you're talking about with
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being an artist, like you know, like I said, Bro, no
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artist ever thinks like damn, my my attempt to create a spectacle is gonna
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do this, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty sure that
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was not on his radar, but it's just even crazy to think that,
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Like you have fans that Rabbit, you know what I'm saying, like that
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that they're gonna like swarm an area that you're at, you know, yeah,
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yeah, And I mean we saw it firsthand, man, when we
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went to Rolling Out, you know what I mean, we saw that firsthand,
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you know, like that was crazy, like and we we slid,
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bro, Remember, like, yeah, we went to the back. They
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restarted, like, man, let me, let's actually tell the story,
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Like we went to Rolling Loud in Miami the year before the pandemic happened,
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and no, it was that same year, right, it was like one
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of the last big events before it was twenty nineteen before before the shutdown.
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Yeah, yeah, facts, And we went to Rolling Loud and the headliner
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on the last day no on the sect on Saturday was Travis Scott and we
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stayed for the for his set and he was doing the Astra World set super
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dope. They had like a crazy like display at the event and everything,
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and when he came out, bro, Like people just started like swarming the
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front area so bad that it was like a stampede, bro. And they
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had kind of like slow it down for that, and then some kind of
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situation happened that people started running, bro. And when people started running,
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that's when they had to like stop the show and see what was going on.
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Like the cops came. Like it was just a whole bunch of craziness
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and we were just kind of like, Bro, I'm about to get out
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of here, you know what I mean, Like literally because it was so
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much crazy stuff going on and we had already ran like two or three times
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by that point, in fact, restarted the concert. Bro. We was
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already running Suicide Dog. And I'm like, yeah, Bro, I ain't
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trying to stay here for whatever coming next. You know what I'm saying,
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Mind you, mind you? Just to insert something real quick. I think
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earlier that yeah, yo, pause earlier that day, if I remember correctly,
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I don't know if it was Kodak or somebody had gotten shot or whatever,
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like literally earlier that day, same day, do you remember that it
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was an artist Koda got arrested. Somebody always girl I believe got shot,
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Okay, got you something like that car like he was in a whips and
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they got shot at and a girl he was weird, got shot allegedly.
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I don't even remember exactly what the situation was quote me on that, but
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I believe that's what it was. Got you, got You? I remember
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it was just a lot going on. Yeah, and I know that was
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like I remember that Rolling Loud specifically was like the spark of like a lot
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of people saying that Rolling even even Rolling out itself, was like cooperating.
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What cops try to get these rappers jammed up because like it had kind of
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started this thing where like cops were like waiting for rappers that shows to arrest
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him. Yeah yeah, and not only that too, but like Roland Low
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started getting a reputation of like crazy stuff happening at the festivals all the time,
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you know what I mean, It kind of got a little out of
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control. But yeah, that was that was a crazy time. But going
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back to the point, man, you know, yeah, that just having
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that much power, it's it's it's kind of like you know Kanye said in
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that song man, you know, I mean, no one man should have
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all that power. It's like that'sh's real. But you don't realize how deep
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that ship goes to a situation like that happens. It is crazy, man.
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And just to kind of connect that with two other things in the news
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that I want to lightly touch on a yo, but really just to lead
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to the main topic. But Tory Lanes got a new mud shout out.
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Basically it was just him being transferred to where he's actually going to serve his
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sentence. And like on the flip side of that, you know, I
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saw a headline about Big on a new song snippet, you know, new
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song snippet that he had put out, and just kind of thinking about the
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duality of that. You know, one guy going in for like ten years,
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the other guy coming out from doing like nine years. You know.
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It's kind of like the yin and the yang right there, And just to
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think about like this quote unquote street stuff, like what does it really mean
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at the end of the day. And then for somebody like big, like,
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are you like, did the incarceration do what quote unquote the state intended
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for it to do? You know, I mean, I'll say this from
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the big standpoint, man. You know, I think he just or they
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posted like clips of his new song with Boozy and he's like shouting out Boozy
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and the record, and I mean, it's cool, you know what I'm
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saying. But I will say that if you think about it from a standpoint
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of like, man, you just served mad time to come out sounding the
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exact same. I don't know, man, I mean to each his own,
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you know what I'm saying. But after the amount of time that he
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served brou I don't know, man, You you definitely see me in other
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ventures. Man, I got another life to live outside of this rap thing.
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Man, And I'm not trying to sound like the same dude that went
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in there twenty however many years ago it was facts man, Like it's so
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crazy because you know, we know people that have done time, and there's
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always this thing like you never know what's going to happen when a person comes
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out, Like sometimes dudes come out like more savage than they was before.
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Like once they go to jail, they get like this kind of chip on
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their shoulder and they feel like they got this batch of honor now and they
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get more wild and then sometimes to be the complete opposite, Like I gotta
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holdie that after he got arrested once, he never even like was on no
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dirt, no more like period, he turned his life completely around just from
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being arrested one time, like he did like twenty days or something like that,
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because nobody build him out and he was like, Bro, when he
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got out of jail, he was like, dog, I'm done. You
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know what I'm saying, Like was a completely different man, brou I mean,
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I don't blame him, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
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don't blame him. I think that you know, shoot, we only got
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one life, man. You spend a decade or two decades in a joint.
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Man, Like that should wake anybody up. You know what I'm saying.
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It sucks because it's like a it's a you know, it's like one
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of those never ending cycles that we always talk about where it's like, once
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you get out, it's kind of hard for you to get away from the
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life anyways, because you you know what I mean, everything, every opportunity
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that you would have, you know that that record follows you. So it's
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kind of hard. But I don't know, man, I still think that,
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you know, I'll do my best not to revert back to that man,
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because like I said, man, you only got one life. Man
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that time time you don't get back. And I think that's why, like
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when people go to jail and you know, it's crazy to me that like
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these you know, higher up you know, CEOs or do some wild stuff
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and they'll knock them over the head with a million dollar fee that don't hurt
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them at all, you know what I mean. But then you know,
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for small things, you know, somebody will get five ten years, when
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five ten years is so much more you know what I mean than five or
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ten million, you know what I mean, Like it's so much more Bro,
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Bro, I don't even do anything that would get me landed in jail.
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But like I'm deafinitely afraid of jail dog, Like just exactly what you're
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talking about, like time, Like you're just gonna take time from me.
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That is wild, Bro, That's super wild to me. Like I can't
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even imagine losing any time to jail. So like like you said, Bro,
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like for me, I feel like the best course of action would be
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just to do a complete reversal and whatever it could have landed you win jail
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dog, because you know, ain't nothing in jail or worth anything, you
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know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, you'd be seeing them pictures of
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dudes throwing up games. I was taking like group photos in jail, like
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you know, like still like repping the block, and it's like, damn
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bro, like for real, like it's like that. But you know it's
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something that we've touched on the show before. Like that's bro, when you
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don't got nobody two or three generations up with any sense, like what are
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you gonna do? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, it's funny because
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we got a little group chat and one of the homies happy to be lated
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birthday. Man, he just kind of like let his birthday come and go
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and then likely realized later like damn, bro, like you ain't even you
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know what I'm saying, Like you've been ghosts and he's just one of them
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dudes, you know what I'm saying, Like you don't. But it's kind
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of like I made it like a like a little joke, like basically saying
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like bro, when you when you're from the hood, dog, like you
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don't care about your birthday, bro, Like you know what I'm saying,
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Like it's just a day of disappointment, bro, Like let that ship come
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and go. Yeah. Yeah, but that's even like something that you know
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what I mean, is a crazy thing to just even not value like the
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you know, the fact that you've spent another year here. You know what
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I'm saying, like really really valuing the time that you're given, especially out
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being outside of jail. You know what I'm saying, facts facts, Man's
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I feel like, you know, the more time I spend living, the
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more time, the more precious time becomes, you know what I mean.
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It's like you start to really realize, like like I said, man,
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five to ten million compared to five to ten years, no question, five
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to ten years is more valuable, you know. So facts, it's kind
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of like a little segue. It's gonna feel random, but it's not.
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Shout out to start. Man. He got a show in October and New
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Smyrna Beach that ain't too far from me, So I'm definitely pulling up a
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wife. I'm mad excited to just have like a like a chill night that's
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like a dope thing when you can support the homies and just vibe to like
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it be actually like an excit at night because you know you're gonna have a
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good time. Yeah. It's literally one of the best comedians I've ever seen
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a live bro like and that's not even a blow smoke, Like really,
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he's just super dope. Like I was. I was just like in shock
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when I seen him the first time because just even knowing him, you know
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what I'm saying, Like, I've seen you in high school and now like
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you on stage just killing everybody, cracking up, all crazy like your own
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crowd that you brought out Like it's crazy, man, Like, shout out
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to him, man, But the reason why I brought him up is because
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the streets is a myth thing that he'd be on man, like that ship
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is super valid. And every time anything, like, you know, any
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one of these stories pop up, he always takes the opportunity to bring that
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up, and it's always relevant, saying, like people be living by these
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codes that are just imaginary codes that don't even benefit anybody, bro, facts,
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like anybody, not even you know how like you have like those uh
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what they call him, like Ponzi schemes where it's like a little imaginary code,
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but the person that the top is the one that's benefiting like these street
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codes, man ain't benefiting nobody, like nobody, Bro. I don't know,
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man, it's just a weird it's a weird thing, I feel like,
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you know, but if that's what you know, it's what you know,
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because you know, even we have to kind of grow out some of
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that stuff, you know, facts and then it's crazy, man, Like
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you would think that it's just common sense and everybody would realize it. But
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man, when when you're radius you know, going out pretty far is the
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same kind of people and you don't really know anybody on some other stuff,
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sometimes it's tough to get out of that because that's like you said, Bro,
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that's all you know, and that's all that's around you. And even
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when you go, you know, even farther, that's still around you and
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you know that that's that's a whole another topic even man, Like just like
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how how that whole you know, where you're at, it just affects like
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your worldview and what the things you do and what you you know, just
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even your moral compass, Like it's different in different places, you know what
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I mean. Like for example, for me, I didn't start smoking weed
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until I was like twenty five or something like that, you know what I
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mean, Like I was a super late bloomer. But everybody I knew smoked
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or so it was never a big deal to me or a thing to me
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to smell weed or you know what I'm saying, or for people to be
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smoking or for you know, somebody to have a little sack on them.
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Pause. It was it was a common thing. So like that whole culture
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was something that was easy for me to like roll into, and it was
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something that I noticed that other people around me that didn't have like the same
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background as me, it was a lot more difficult, like even bro,
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even something like this, Bro, like especially like when I was a kid.
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Bro, Like even like even like around that time, everybody around me
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was sold, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody around me, so
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we'd like it was just like from where we're from, like you know as
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well as I know, like you could think of like ten people probably right
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now that's still so weed, you know what I'm saying, Like that's just
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super common like with the people that we grew up with, but that's not
23:10
a common thing for other people. Like, so people be actually having a
23:14
hard time finding weed. Like I ended up finding that out when I started
23:17
smoking, Like I didn't know before because I never smoked, you know,
23:19
but I always have friends that sold, you know what I'm saying, Like,
23:22
Bro, it was still the point where I had so many friends that
23:26
sold that like when I first started smoking, people would just not even charge
23:32
me like I had Like everybody was like yo, pull up on me,
23:34
and I got you. You know what I'm saying. It was like they
23:37
were just so like shocked and surprised and just wanted to see me smoking.
23:41
Yeah, I got you, you know what I'm saying. But then come
23:45
to find out, like there would be people that be like three or four
23:48
people chilling, and they're all trying to figure out how to get some weed
23:52
and they just can't. Like I'm like, damn, bro, three or
23:53
four y'all y'all can't figure this out. But yeah, that that's surrounding that
24:00
first, you know what I'm saying, And even that whole weed thing,
24:02
like we never saw it as a big deal, but if we would have
24:04
got pulled over or something, you know what I'm saying, your life could
24:07
have been way different. You said that record, you know that, especially
24:15
catching a quote unquote drug charge back in those times, Like Bro, you
24:18
get pulled over with a little sack of weed back then, you know,
24:22
they make you look like you el chappo, Like Facts just had a little
24:25
personal sack. Facts, Bro, especially if they're trying to meet that quota.
24:30
Oh yeah, you was on paper. Facts. You have a paper
24:33
You ever seen them? Pictures of like a sheriff department and they got like
24:37
half a zip or something and like three pre rolls and then they got like
24:41
six sheriffs in the back with some a k's like they did something, you
24:45
know what I mean? Like, Bro, that's eighty dollars worth of weed,
24:48
bro, Facts, Facts, that's that I met my quota picture.
24:52
Yeah, facts, they put that in the wall. It's it's crazy just
24:57
even like you know, not even just in our lifetime, but in the
25:00
last like five or ten years, how weird is transformed, like just in
25:06
the eyes of like the general public. Yep, that's exactly why a lot
25:10
of people that's in jail shouldn't be in jail anymore. Facts, Bro,
25:14
that's dog, that's that's wild. Like like imagine being one of those people,
25:18
you know what I'm saying. Imagine being one of those people in jail.
25:21
You you know what I'm saying. You seeing the news, you know,
25:23
you got your little TV for whatever however much time you can see and
25:27
you see all these people making bookoo money off of the thing that you was
25:32
doing just to try to keep your lights on. Crazy, bro, It's
25:37
it's wild, man, It's it's it's something that doesn't like And that's always
25:42
something that I think about in a life period, like just how like the
25:47
times kind of like we were saying, like where you're born, the time
25:51
that you're in the general area that you're in, Like, there's so many
25:53
factors that affect how your life turns out. And for people to like basically
26:00
volunteer themselves to go to jail. Bro It just it just blows my mind,
26:03
you know. Yeah, that definitely feel that. It's definitely something that's
26:11
easy for me and you to talk about because like we're two dudes that kind
26:15
of recognize things and shifted, you know what I mean, Like we know
26:18
so many people that just didn't have that, you know, they just didn't
26:22
have that mindset and then things win another way for them. Yeah, and
26:27
again it's kind of like, you know, eventually you gotta make a decision,
26:33
you know what I mean, Like you can either decide that you want
26:34
to continue doing the same thing, or you can decide that like, nah,
26:38
I want to do something better. And I mean, again, you
26:41
know what I mean, the odds are already stacked against us. So I
26:45
understand that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I understand that aspect
26:48
of it, But that doesn't mean we don't try. That doesn't mean we
26:52
don't foot forth some kind of effort to have a better life where I'm not
26:56
at risk, you know what I'm saying, Like my family, you know
27:00
what I'm saying. I'm sure your family want to see you. You know
27:02
what I'm saying come home, like you know what I mean? Like why
27:03
why? You know what I mean? I don't know it just eventually you
27:07
got to make that decision, you know. Facts, Man, that was
27:10
something that definitely took me a long time to learn, like just as far
27:12
as like as a team and everything, because I was like operating. I
27:18
wasn't operating from the point of view before of like what I'm so much on
27:22
now, as far as like making sure that I'm kind of like creating my
27:25
own world and being in charge of what I'm doing and kind of like making
27:30
sure that my life is going the way that I wanted to go and not
27:33
letting anything get in the way or give me an excuse, you know,
27:34
Like I wasn't on that before. Before I was on man, this is
27:40
my situation. It sucks. You know, I'm just gonna fuck up because
27:45
what else is there to do, you know what I'm saying. And that's
27:48
just it's such a wrong point of view to have. And like if I
27:52
would have just took the point of view of let me, like I said,
27:55
create my own destiny and take to shit in my own hands, I
27:57
would have got to where I'm at now much sooner. You know what I'm
28:00
saying. I'm glad I'm here, of course, you know what I'm saying.
28:03
But I definitely wish I could have told my younger self, like,
28:07
yeah, bro, this stuff is going on around you, it's still your
28:10
life though, you know what I'm saying, exactly same, Bro, I
28:14
definitely feel you on that same here. And I think that's the beauty of
28:17
the whole thing though, is that it's like, you know what I'm saying,
28:18
Like, I don't have kids yet, but you have kids that you
28:22
can guide them so that they don't make those same mistakes, you know.
28:25
Facts, It's it's dope, man, Like even just like the experiences I
28:29
have with my kids and stuff, like, like a lot of it is
28:33
stuff that I never even had from the other point of view, you know
28:36
what I'm saying, like as a kid, so like it's kind of like
28:38
new for both of us even you know, like he kind of even just
28:42
like navigating this side of it, you know, But it's just it's it's
28:47
I wouldn't trade trade the world for it, bro. Like I know,
28:51
Bro, I know for a fact that my life would not have turned out
28:55
good if I didn't have my daughter. You know what I'm saying, Like
28:57
that was like the thing that, like, like I said, Bro,
29:00
before I was kind of like on something like, Yo, this is my
29:03
situation. It is what it is, you know, And then after that,
29:06
I was like, nah, bro, I gotta change this. Bro.
29:10
Like, like I said, Dog, I can't even imagine, like
29:12
with how this thing would have went if things have been different. You know.
29:17
Yeah, I definitely feel that, definitely feel that. But yeah,
29:21
man, we we we got to that time again, dog, Billboard top
29:26
ten game. Let's get it. We need we need like some people to
29:30
give us some suggestions to the name of the game. If anybody's trying to
29:33
get on and have a showdown, let us know. I don't know if
29:37
everybody's gonna like gravitate to it like I am, but Dog, I get
29:41
genuinely excited about this thing, man, Like bro, Well, yeah,
29:47
man, this week, obviously Joe's not here. Hopefully he's back. No,
29:49
he will be back next week for sure, but yeah, Joe's not
29:52
here, but we're gonna do it just kind of it's a scrimmage, you
29:56
know what I'm saying, Like, He's gonna let people know what the game
29:59
is about. Get a little more familiar with a joke and listen back and
30:03
kind of play along in his own head and see, you know how it
30:06
might have shaped up for him. You know, you know, just get
30:08
everybody familiar with the game, so you know, we build this legacy.
30:12
Die, I want to play this game live one day, man, all
30:17
right, bet man. So this is the week of November twenty second,
30:22
two thousand and three Billboard Top ten. Basically, the game is I'm gonna
30:29
give you some clues that have a lot to do with the song in the
30:37
wording of the clues. Okay, so that's something that everybody got to pay
30:42
attention to, Like there's gonna be specific words in the clues that's gonna kind
30:48
of let you know where to go with it. And obviously the year and
30:52
everything in the genre. But uh, let's get it, man. So
30:56
the first first one, the first one is gonna be kind of like a
31:03
little combination. So the first one I got is this with two spots.
31:10
This week, this rapper took action and conversed with the concierge on the charts
31:17
with these bangers. So this guy had two songs on the charts this week.
31:25
One of them was his own record the other one was a collaboration.
31:32
And you can give me any combination of any of you know, either record
31:38
the rapper. You know what I'm saying. Whatever you got, you can
31:42
tell me. So I'm gonna read the clue again again. This is the
31:48
week of November twenty second, two thousand and three, so with two spots
31:55
this week. This rapper took action and versed with the concierge on the charts
32:02
with these bangers, action and conversed with the concert concier Day took action,
32:22
bro when irty rat, when I tell you you're gonna be pissed at yourself,
32:25
Bro, I feel like I'm already am took action. Conversed. Damn,
32:35
I ain't got no lot of clues. This rapper took action and conversed
32:38
with the concierge on the charts with these two bangers, is it Kanye West?
32:50
No, sir, no sir? Oh my gosh. Took raption is
33:00
ludicrous and the songs are stand up and holiday in Dan took action and conversed
33:10
with the concierge. I thought theie was a giveaway. I debated even that
33:15
was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good
33:17
clue actually dang, and that was songs two and three on the chart that
33:22
week. Number two was stand Up Ludacris featuring Shawna. Number three was Holiday
33:29
in Chingy featuring Ludacris and Snoop Dog on fire Boy. Yeah, man,
33:36
Ludacris is going crazy, all right, So let's move on to the next
33:40
one here. I feel like you're gonna get this one, I hope.
33:45
So this Sweet Spanish Flavor was a collaboration that was a commercial hip hop hit.
33:54
Oh uh no Sweet, There's more, okay, the collaboration that was
34:07
a commercial hip hop hit, Oh my god, it's uh, oh my
34:17
god. What's the rapper and the singer? Is it? Uh norimkanto?
34:27
No dang it is? Let me let me get the chart position here.
34:32
You're gonna be tired about this one, because if it's not, it's the
34:40
two the girl, the it's like two females. Number nine on the charts,
34:46
and it was on its way up. It was the eleventh of the
34:49
week before then it was nine, and it was four. It had fourteen
34:52
weeks on the chart at this point. Baby Bash featuring Frankie Jay Sugar Sugar
34:59
my God. Yeah, but that song was like, Oh my gosh,
35:10
Bro, you're gonna feel like you missed the game winner when you go to
35:14
sleep to night. Dog Oh man, crazy? All right, bro,
35:20
if you don't get this one, Dog, well, you know you know
35:23
what it is. I think I think for the coming weeks, I'm gonna
35:27
have to throw a little bit more clues in it, because if when I
35:30
think about it, it's like if I just give you the year, you
35:34
can kind of have a general idea of who it could be. But at
35:37
the same time it's a little abstract. But this one, I feel like
35:39
you'll get. Okay, another all right, let me get it again.
35:45
Another collaboration that took the Queen to the Islands and came back with a number
35:52
one hit. I would assume Rihanna, but I gotta have the song.
36:06
But is it Rihanna? No, the Queen. It's not Beyonce. Huh,
36:13
I know it is. It's Beyonce and and uh Sean Paul. What's
36:17
the song? Uh, I'm Beyonce. It's Sean Paul. What's his name
36:22
of that song? Damn, baby boy, baby boy? There you go,
36:30
baby boy? Yeah, yes, sir, that was actually the number
36:35
one song that week. November twenty second, two thousand and three, Number
36:39
one. It had been weeks. It had been fifteen weeks on the charts,
36:44
but it doesn't say how long it's been on the charts. But yeah,
36:46
it was bro. Check out this top ten. Bro. This was
36:49
hip hop Heavy Dog number one, Baby Boy Beyonce featuring Sean Paul, Number
36:57
two, Stand Up Ludicrous featuring Gna, Number three, Holiday and Chingy featuring
37:02
Ludacris and Snoop Dogg. Number four, Damn Young Bloods featuring Little John Dang,
37:08
number five, Hey Y'ah Outcast, number six, Here Without You,
37:15
Three Doors Down, number seven, Get Low, Little John and the East
37:20
Side Boys featuring the Yan Yang Twins. Number eight, The Way You Move
37:24
Outcast featuring Wow, number nine, Sugar Sugar Baby Bass featuring Frankie Jay,
37:30
and number ten Step in the Name of Love R Kelly. So everything was
37:37
R and B and hip hop besides number six, Here Without You, three
37:39
Doors Down and look at Us Today, brou. I was just I was
37:45
just I was just seeing how some people kind of discussing what was it that.
37:51
I guess hip hop is no longer the hottest genre anymore. It's like
37:57
become like island music. Or like be in music. Yep, yep,
38:00
yeah that's afrobeats that Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man. It's definitely
38:07
changed the game. Bro, hip hop fifty years old. Dog, every
38:12
everything has this ride, everything has this fall. Yeah, crazy, he
38:16
would never consider that with music. You know what I'm saying, Like it's
38:19
gonna come a day where it just disappears. Bro, It's already disappearance.
38:22
It's disappearance for sure, especially like Bro, like because even Bro, I
38:28
grew up on the Dog. One of my favorite songs of all times is
38:32
grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. The message like that on in my
38:37
shuffle. I'm letting that ride like that's a to me, that's a banger,
38:39
and you can't tell me nothing different, but songs sound like that right
38:44
now. Dog, it's not getting a second listen from me. Bro facts,
38:47
you know what I'm saying, Like them joints captured a moment in time
38:52
like they was special. Then it ain't special no more, you know what
38:54
I'm saying, Like that's why hip hop gota evolved, and like we just
38:58
got to hope that the people that's evolving it are actually like keeping the history
39:04
in mind, to keep those elements that we love you know what I'm saying,
39:07
Like for me, Bro, Like even going back to the NAS and
39:12
jay Z thing, Like, for me, lyrics are very high on the
39:15
list, you know what I'm saying. Not saying that I could listen to
39:19
some bullshit here and there, because I like the bullshit too, But a
39:22
lot of the times I want to hear you saying something. You know.
39:24
That's why NAS has always been dope to me, because you know, other
39:29
people could say, yeah, the Beats wasn't all that, but but I'm
39:31
like, Bro, I'm not listening for beats. You know what I'm saying.
39:35
Yeah, you hear what he's saying. For what he's saying, because
39:37
he's saying something that nobody else is saying, bro, And it kind of
39:42
just that goes hand in hand with like the changes in hip hop is like
39:45
bro bringing into the future. I'm all for it, but just keep that
39:50
energy in there, you know what I'm saying, Like, remember where it
39:52
came from, Like, Bro, I'm from I'm from that vibe. But
39:55
like you ain't even really supposed to wrap unless you got a reason rap,
40:00
you know what I'm saying. Like even like like even in our error,
40:04
Bro, like people that were like backpack rappers or like hip hop nerds and
40:07
stuff, like they had to fight their way in because like people that was
40:10
just like like if you was just in the culture, bro, like you
40:14
wouldn't you wasn't cool with the outsiders, you know what I'm saying, And
40:16
people that just kind of like came into the culture just for hip hop.
40:22
It was one of those things where it's like like it had to be something
40:25
that had to like adjust and grow, you know what I mean. It
40:30
wasn't just something that you could just say, Oh, I like rapping and
40:34
that's it, you know what I'm saying, Like, what are you rapping
40:36
about? Exactly? Yeah. I think that's another reason why I always find
40:40
it so interesting how hip hop is one of the few genres that like kind
40:45
of carries that stigma, you know what I'm saying, Like if you look
40:47
at any other genre, it's kind of just like more so about the music,
40:51
you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, And it's like I
40:53
could definitely see both sides, bro, it makes sense. But for me,
40:58
my like, for my taste personally, I'd like to hear somebody that's
41:04
saying something with a reason behind it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
41:07
but yeah, I also like j Cole, which he'll tell you,
41:10
you know, he had hard times, but he'll say you know, he'll
41:14
tell you he ain't like super hood or something, but he's talking about some
41:17
real stuff, you know what I'm saying. Same thing with Kanye. You
41:20
know what I'm saying. His struggle wasn't some crazy street struggle, but you
41:24
know, he showed what it was and just like you know, put that
41:29
lyricism in front and really like used his words to really explain it and get
41:34
you to feel it, you know what I'm saying. And to me,
41:37
that's what hip hop is about, bro like, just and that's why the
41:40
message is such a dope song to me, because like it's so real and
41:45
raw, bro like even just like telling the story of like some dude going
41:50
to jail and coming back and just ending up back in the same cycle like
41:53
that song. Like the verses on that song are so crazy, and like
41:58
if you come from a background of like kind of seeing that, bro like,
42:00
it hits different, you know, and it kind of even touches on
42:04
the Rolling a Loud thing, because when I went to Rolling Aloud with you,
42:07
like that was the first time that I had went to like a festival,
42:09
like a music thing like that, you know what I'm saying, And
42:14
it was like, Bro, I'm like, yo, like these are the
42:17
people that's listening to this music? Like you know what I'm saying, Like
42:21
it's like me and my homies listening to this music. Like I would have
42:23
thought it was gonna be people like me and my homies here, you know
42:27
what I'm saying, But it was not people like me and my homies at
42:30
the concert. And I'm not saying that's a good or a bad thing.
42:32
It just tells you the reach that hip hop has and how it's transformed,
42:37
you know. But like I said, Bro, like that that that message
42:43
and whatever you're really trying to say, Like to me, that's always going
42:45
to be the first thing that stands out to me. You know. Yeah,
42:51
that's really I think as a as a hip hop artist, that's kind
42:52
of like probably the most important thing. And I think for me, it's
42:59
all always been like trying to find that balance of what am I saying?
43:02
But how can I make it sound good saying it? You know what I
43:05
mean? Like I don't want to sound like I'm preaching either, you know
43:07
what I mean. But it's just you know, it's just you gotta kind
43:10
of have that balance. Yeah, and even bro, like this is random,
43:14
but even just musically, like I got to open my horizons a little
43:17
bit because we were talking about Taylor Swift and like I don't even like I'm
43:23
so like, I don't even know what's going on with her that like I
43:27
couldn't even tell you what the song sound like or whatever. And then I
43:30
have pulled up there because I used the audio of the song with her and
43:35
I spice for the that reel that we posted. I pulled it up and
43:39
then I heard I forgot the name of the song, but another one of
43:43
the songs up there. It was like I heard the chorus of it and
43:49
I'm like, damn bro. Like and they say that she writes her own
43:51
music, I'm like, damn bro, this is super dope the way she
43:53
wrote this, and like it made me understand, like, dann, this
43:57
is why people like. Just hearing that hook let me know why she's so
44:01
big. It was like, damn bro, this hook is some real stuff.
44:06
It was like a hook basically her saying like like she's she's recognizing that
44:10
she's the problem in the situation, you know what I'm saying, like,
44:15
and it was like I heard the hook and I'm like, bro, this
44:16
is so dope, like the way that she wrote this, and just like
44:20
anybody could feel that, you know what I'm saying, no matter who you
44:22
are, you hear that hook and you could relate to it, bro,
44:25
because like we all have that moment when we realize we're the problem in a
44:29
situation. It might not be every situation, but there's definitely been a situation
44:32
and multiple situations where we were the ones that was wrong you know what I'm
44:37
saying, And it just something where I was like, damn, that's dope.
44:40
You know what I'm saying, like and I understood, like yo,
44:43
like you know, and it kind of goes back to the hip hop thing
44:45
like bro, like you gotta keep that flavor in it, but also bring
44:50
that thing that's gonna make people say like, oh, okay, you know
44:52
what I'm saying, Like that's why this is this? You know? Yeah,
44:55
exactly. No, I mean, I definitely shoot, I'm I'm not
45:00
like a crazy fan, but I mean living with rob and I definitely hear
45:06
her music a lot, and she got some good stuff. Bro, she
45:08
got some joints that I hear and I'm like, Yo, she she's dope.
45:12
Yeah, Bro, same with like Ariana Grande man Like, I never
45:15
check it out until my daughter started listening to her and like songs that I
45:20
would catch here and there. I was like, I would listen. I'm
45:22
like, oh, I catch like fifteen twenty seconds of it. I'll stay
45:24
listening a little more. I'm like, oh, this song is dope and
45:27
I what is this? And She'll tell me and then I'll add it to
45:30
my library because it's like, Bro, there's just like and it kind of
45:34
talked like to kind of even like take it out of the hip hop thing
45:37
and kind of wrap it up. Like music in general, bro, is
45:39
about having a unique message to it. You know what I'm saying, Like
45:43
you gotta be able to portray what you're going through in your story and just
45:46
the way that's appealing to somebody, you know, to their ear, you
45:50
know what I'm saying. And it's one of those things where real music is
45:57
gonna cut through. But me as a hip hop fan, Bro, I
45:59
just wanted to have that hip hop flavor because that's just that's the energy.
46:02
I like you know what I'm saying, even like I was, you know,
46:06
I was telling you I've been starting to make beats, and you know
46:09
the main goal was just to strictly just to make beats for myself, you
46:14
know what I'm saying, which I've done and I got a couple of ones
46:16
that I'm super excited about. But you know, I've been getting ideas for
46:22
hip hop joints, you know what I'm saying, and I've been just letting
46:23
them out because it's like, bro, like that's my first love, really,
46:27
you know what I'm saying, hip hop music, and even like my
46:30
want to be a producer, like it started when I was a rapper and
46:34
I was like kind of like the first kinds of beats I was making.
46:36
So I'm excited to just keep on rolling that and you know, just getting
46:40
further deep into that. That's dope. That's super dope. Man. But
46:45
yeah, man, Bro, I can't believe it's already been forty six minutes,
46:49
Doug, Like I thought thirty minutes or something. Super dope episode.
46:53
Like I said, I'm excited to keep going with these new vibes. I'm
46:57
excited to get Joe back next week to catch up on every thing. What's
47:00
going on with you, bro? What you got going on? Man?
47:04
I got uh this new joints so cold dropping on Friday. Man, it
47:07
was super dope doing the video shoot. Man sat out to Nyance. Man.
47:13
She she really came through and held it down and was super super professional,
47:16
you know, with the whole process. So that was dope. But
47:20
yeah, Man, I'm excited about this fong and video. I think it's
47:23
gonna be really dope. Yeah. Man, I'm excited just to hear it
47:28
and see these new releases you got coming man, and Bro, I'm about
47:31
to I took a little hiatus, man. The Salon's doing great. Uh,
47:37
I'm ready to hit the ground running. Man. I got a whole
47:39
bunch of dope joints on the way. Got a little session playing soon where
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it's just gonna be organizing everything I got because it's like I can't just keep
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going and recording, bro, Like I gotta start putting stuff together to release.
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Yeah, the new music's on the way, man, I'm excited.
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I'm excited about the shows, the Salon and music. Bro. Everything's hitting
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on all cylinders right now. Complaint you know what I'm saying. And I'm
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just feeling real butter not h m hm