Latest / How Canadian Markets Work / Episode 26: How a Rate Decision Reaches You
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- 0:00I want you to just take a second, maybe take
- 0:02a breath and think about the last time you were...
- 0:05scrolling through your phone. Or maybe you were
- 0:07driving, you know, just listening to the news.
- 0:09Yeah, just going about your day. Right. And you
- 0:12catch this headline about a central bank interest
- 0:14rate decision. And if you are like most people,
- 0:18it probably felt, I don't know, incredibly distant.
- 0:20Oh, totally. Very theoretical. Exactly. Just
- 0:23a bunch of economists in a boardroom somewhere
- 0:25tweaking a decimal point. And it seems completely
- 0:29disconnected from your daily life. You know your
- 0:32grocery bill your stress levels. Well financial
- 0:35news often wraps itself in this really impenetrable.
- 0:39kind of clinical language. I mean, the terminology
- 0:42is almost designed to sound abstract. Yeah, it
- 0:44really creates a barrier. It does. It creates
- 0:46this wall between the mechanics of the economy
- 0:48and the reality we actually experience in our
- 0:51own homes. When you hear about, like, basis points
- 0:54or overnight targets, it's just very easy to
- 0:56tune out. It is. But the truth is, that single
- 1:00decimal point is intimately connected to almost
- 1:02every financial reality you experience. So welcome
- 1:06to today's deep dive. We are really glad you're
- 1:08here with us. They are. And our mission today
- 1:10is to gently pull back the curtain on the plumbing
- 1:14of the financial system. We are going to trace
- 1:17exactly how a single, you know, seemingly irrelevant
- 1:20interest rate ripples out through the pipes to
- 1:23dictate your mortgage, your savings, the value
- 1:25of the currency in your pocket and even your
- 1:27employer's hiring plans. We are taking our time
- 1:30today. We're just going to slow down and map
- 1:32out this machinery together. I love that approach,
- 1:36because to really understand this machinery,
- 1:38we have to start at the very source of those
- 1:40ripples, which is the central bank's policy rate.
- 1:43OK. And the core concept that surprises so many
- 1:48people is that this big headline policy rate
- 1:50is really just a target for loans between financial
- 1:54institutions. Wait, just between the banks? Just
- 1:55between the banks, overnight. Literally for a
- 1:58single night. Oh, wow. Yeah at the end of every
- 2:01business day banks need to settle their accounts
- 2:03with each other You know some have a little extra
- 2:05cash some are a little short So they lend to
- 2:07each other overnight to balance the books, right?
- 2:10Okay, and the thing is you will never touch this
- 2:13rate I mean, no financial product you own references
- 2:17it directly. It basically governs a closed market
- 2:20that you cannot and honestly will never access.
- 2:23So if it is just banks lending to other banks
- 2:26while the rest of us sleep. the immediate question
- 2:29is why you or I should care at all. That is the
- 2:32big question. Right. The thing felt like the
- 2:35wholesale water pressure at your municipal water
- 2:38plant. Oh, that's a good way to look at it. Yeah,
- 2:39because you never interact with the plant directly.
- 2:41You couldn't even get past the front gate if
- 2:43you tried. No, definitely not. But if the engineers
- 2:46at that plant turn the main dial and increase
- 2:48the pressure, well, the flow in your kitchen
- 2:51sink changes almost instantly. You feel the result
- 2:54of their action even if you never saw the engineers
- 2:57actually turn the dial. That is exactly it. The
- 3:00transmission mechanism works precisely in that
- 3:02manner and we call this the borrowing cost channel.
- 3:05Borrowing cost channel. OK. Right. So when the
- 3:08central bank raises that overnight rate it immediately
- 3:10becomes more expensive for regular everyday commercial
- 3:13banks to fund their own daily operations. Their
- 3:16underlying costs go up. And I'm guessing they
- 3:19don't just eat that cost out of the goodness
- 3:20of their hearts. No absolutely not. Banks are
- 3:24profit -driven institutions. They do not absorb
- 3:27those costs. They pass them right along to the
- 3:29consumer. So the moment their funding costs rise,
- 3:32they increase their own prime rate, which is
- 3:34the baseline rate they use to charge their best
- 3:37customers. And this happens fast, usually within
- 3:40a matter of days. OK, so the prime rate is the
- 3:42water finally arriving at the kitchen sink. Beautifully
- 3:45put, yes. If you have a variable rate mortgage
- 3:48or maybe a home equity line of credit or really
- 3:51many types of personal loans, your interest rate
- 3:54is explicitly tethered to that prime rate. Oh,
- 3:56I see. So when the overnight rate changes, your
- 3:59bank changes the prime rate and your variable
- 4:02borrowing costs move in absolute lockstep. This
- 4:05is the fast channel of monetary policy. The effect
- 4:08is nearly instantaneous. Okay, that makes perfect
- 4:11sense for variable rates. The pipe is directly
- 4:13connected. But if I had a fixed rate mortgage,
- 4:16I would assume my sink is connected to an entirely
- 4:18different plumbing system. That is a very common
- 4:21assumption. Yeah, because my rate is locked.
- 4:24Right. So the central bank's daily tweaking shouldn't
- 4:27affect the cost of a new fixed mortgage at all.
- 4:29Well, you are right that fixed mortgages operate
- 4:32on a completely different set of mechanics. They
- 4:35do not track the overnight rate or the prime
- 4:37rate. Instead, they track The bond market. The
- 4:40bond market. OK. Yes. So if you want, say, a
- 4:43five -year fixed mortgage, your bank needs to
- 4:46ensure they can lock in their own funding for
- 4:48five years to lend to you safely. That makes
- 4:51sense. Right. So they look at the current payout
- 4:54or the yield of a five -year government bond.
- 4:57If bond investors are demanding a higher return
- 5:00to part with their money for five years, well,
- 5:02your bank is going to charge you a higher fixed
- 5:04rate for a five -year mortgage. Wait, hold on.
- 5:07Bond markets are driven by human expectations,
- 5:10right? Investors are always out there trying
- 5:12to guess what will happen next year, or I don't
- 5:14know, three years from now. Exactly. Wait, so
- 5:16if bond markets move based on expectations, my
- 5:19fixed mortgage rate can go up before the central
- 5:21bank actually does anything. Yes. That is exactly
- 5:25what happens. Bond markets are constantly pricing
- 5:28in the future. So if investors believe that the
- 5:32central bank is eventually going to raise rates
- 5:33to fight inflation, they demand higher returns
- 5:36on bonds today. Because they see it coming. Right.
- 5:40And consequently, fixed mortgage rates will increase
- 5:42before the central bank even makes an official
- 5:44announcement. The expectation itself does the
- 5:48heavy lifting. That is wild. It really is. You
- 5:51might be completely baffled to see your mortgage,
- 5:53quote, jump when the central bank did literally
- 5:55nothing that month. But the market had already
- 5:58moved based on what they anticipate will happen
- 6:00next year. That is so fascinating. And, you know,
- 6:03seeing how those two distinct pipes work, the
- 6:06variable prime rate pipe and the fixed bond market
- 6:08pipe, it brings up this fascinating structural
- 6:11difference between countries. It really does.
- 6:13It changes everything. Yeah. The specific way
- 6:15a country structures its mortgages fundamentally
- 6:18changes the vulnerability of its entire population.
- 6:20Like, the notes we have on Canadian market mechanics
- 6:23highlight a massive defining contrast. between
- 6:27Canada and the United States. Massive is the
- 6:29right word. The structural difference between
- 6:31the two nations dictates entirely different economic
- 6:34realities. So in the United States, the absolute
- 6:38gold standard for homeownership is the 30 -year
- 6:41fixed -rate mortgage. You buy a house, you lock
- 6:44in your interest rate, and you know your exact
- 6:47monthly payment for the next three decades. Three
- 6:49decades? That is such a long time to have certainty.
- 6:52It is incredible certainty. The central bank
- 6:54could raise rates to the moon to fight inflation,
- 6:56and the American homeowner's monthly budget does
- 6:59not budge a single cent. It sounds like a financial
- 7:02fortress. You know, you buy the house, you call
- 7:04up the drawbridge, and the weather outside simply
- 7:07does not matter. A perfect metaphor. But the
- 7:10Canadian system sounds much more like, um...
- 7:12Signing a commercial lease that just keeps expiring.
- 7:15That is exactly what it is. The standard in Canada
- 7:18is a five -year term on a 25 -year amortization.
- 7:22Meaning what, exactly? To put it simply, it takes
- 7:2525 years to pay off the house entirely. But the
- 7:28contract you sign with the bank only lasts for
- 7:30five years at a time. Oh, wow. Yeah. Every five
- 7:32years, your lease runs out. You are forced to
- 7:35step outside your financial fortress, look at
- 7:38whatever the economic weather happens to be on
- 7:40that specific day, and renegotiate your interest
- 7:43rate based on the new environment. The vulnerability
- 7:46there is just staggering. I mean, American households
- 7:48are shielded for a generation while Canadian
- 7:51households bear the full brunt of national interest
- 7:54rate risk. Entirely on their own shoulders, yes.
- 7:56Repricing across the country is either continuous
- 7:59for variable holders or it's staggered in these
- 8:02brutal five -year waves. So Canadian monetary
- 8:06policy must be incredibly potent. Extremely potent.
- 8:10Because every single time the central bank turns
- 8:12the dial, they are actively squeezing millions
- 8:15of households who simply have no choice but to
- 8:18renew. Yes. The central bank gets a much faster,
- 8:21much harder economic effect per rate change than
- 8:24the US Federal Reserve does. The transmission
- 8:27just forced upon the population. You really feel
- 8:29it. You do. And to see how this macroeconomic
- 8:31theory hits the kitchen table, we can just observe.
- 8:34of how this structural difference actually feels
- 8:36for three specific types of households. Let's
- 8:38do that. So imagine household one, they have
- 8:41a variable rate mortgage. We know they feel the
- 8:43height immediately through the fast channel.
- 8:45But there is a very specific product here that
- 8:48I think confuses people. The variable rate with
- 8:50a fixed monthly payment. Right. Like if my payment
- 8:53stays at $2 ,000 a month, no matter what the
- 8:56central bank does, I am safe from the hike, right?
- 8:59My monthly budget does not change, so I don't
- 9:01feel the squeeze. Oh, that is one of the most
- 9:04dangerous misconceptions in personal finance
- 9:06right now. Really? You are not safe. The hit
- 9:09is actually stealthier and potentially way more
- 9:12destructive over time. How so? Well, when your
- 9:15payment holds steady at two thousand dollars,
- 9:18but the underlying interest rate climbs, the
- 9:21math inside that payment changes drastically.
- 9:23OK, I'm following. A year ago, perhaps a thousand
- 9:26dollars of that payment went to reducing your
- 9:28actual debt. and $1 ,000 went to the bank as
- 9:30interest. But today, after rate hikes, $1 ,900
- 9:35might go straight to the bank's profit, and you're
- 9:37only paying off $100 of your house. So I am writing
- 9:41the exact same check, but my debt is no longer
- 9:43shrinking. Barely shrinking at all. And in extreme
- 9:46cases, your fixed payment might not even cover
- 9:49the interest anymore. Wait, what happens then?
- 9:51The unpaid interest just gets added onto your
- 9:54total loan. Your debt actually grows every single
- 9:57month, even while you continue to make your full
- 9:59payments. That is terrifying. It is a silent
- 10:02squeeze. It erodes your home equity without you
- 10:05ever feeling it in your daily checking account.
- 10:07A completely stealth hit. Okay, now, imagine
- 10:11household two. Okay. They are sitting on a five
- 10:15-year fixed mortgage they signed two years ago,
- 10:17back when rates were sitting at rock bottom.
- 10:20Now, the central bank raises rates today. Household,
- 10:23too, feels absolutely nothing, right? Their payment
- 10:25is the same. Their debt reduction is exactly
- 10:28the same. They are safe in the fortress. They
- 10:30are the fortress, yes. But they are living with
- 10:32a ticking clock. Oh, the renewal. Right. In three
- 10:35years, their five -year term expires. They face
- 10:38a single unavoidable conversation at their renewal.
- 10:41And at that exact moment, Their monthly payment
- 10:43will step up to reflect three years of accumulated
- 10:46rate hikes all at once. With no warning. There
- 10:48is no adjustment period. It is a sudden, jarring
- 10:52shock to their cash flow, where their housing
- 10:55costs might jump by many hundreds or even thousands
- 10:58of dollars overnight. The psychological weight
- 11:00of watching that renewal date approach can be
- 11:03just immense. I can only imagine. But what about
- 11:06Household 3, the renter? Ah, the renter. They
- 11:09do not own a home. They do not have a mortgage.
- 11:11They are just completely opted out of this specific
- 11:14financial game. Nobody escapes the transmission
- 11:17mechanism. Really? Nobody. Nobody. Even without
- 11:21a mortgage, the renter feels the impact. deeply,
- 11:24primarily through the labor market. How does
- 11:26that work? When the central bank raises the overnight
- 11:28rate, the commercial bank's borrowing costs go
- 11:30up, like we talked about. Right. The commercial
- 11:32bank then charges more for business loans. So
- 11:35the renter's employer suddenly finds that expanding
- 11:37the business or simply maintaining their credit
- 11:40lines is much more expensive. Oh, I see. The
- 11:43business has less free cash, expansion plans
- 11:46get shelved, hiring freezes, wage increases get
- 11:49smaller or disappear entirely. And I imagine
- 11:52their housing costs are immune either, right?
- 11:54Because the landlord owns the building and the
- 11:56landlord likely has a mortgage. Exactly. So if
- 11:58the landlord's borrowing costs are rising, they
- 12:01will try to pass that margin squeeze directly
- 12:03onto the renter. They certainly will try. The
- 12:06Ripples always find the shore. And, you know,
- 12:09we can also widen the lens to look at the slightly
- 12:12less visible channels where this single overnight
- 12:15rate alters reality. Let's do it. The first is
- 12:18the asset price channel. which is often referred
- 12:21to as the wealth effect. The wealth effect. OK,
- 12:25financial textbooks describe this by saying future
- 12:28cash flows are mathematically worth more today
- 12:30when discounted at a lower interest rate. A very
- 12:33dry way to say it. Yeah, that language flies
- 12:35right over the heads of anyone not actively working
- 12:38on Wall Street. What is the actual on the ground
- 12:40mechanism driving this wealth effect? Think about
- 12:43where people put their money when savings accounts
- 12:46pay almost nothing. If interest rates are incredibly
- 12:49low, keeping your money in the bank feels like
- 12:51a losing strategy. Right. You're essentially
- 12:53losing to inflation. Exactly. So investors get
- 12:56desperate for returns. They pull their money
- 12:58out of safe savings imported into the stock market,
- 13:01or they bid up the prices of real estate. That
- 13:04flood of money pushes asset prices higher. OK,
- 13:07that makes sense. Higher rates do the exact reverse.
- 13:09Suddenly, a guaranteed 5 % return in a safe bank
- 13:13account looks very attractive. Money flows out
- 13:16of risky stocks and real estate, and those asset
- 13:19prices fall. So when people look at their retirement
- 13:22accounts or their home appraisals and see massive
- 13:24gains, they simply feel wealthier. They do. A
- 13:27homeowner might not have more cash in their actual
- 13:29pocket, but they feel comfortable taking out
- 13:31a line of credit to, say, renovate the kitchen
- 13:33or buy a new car. Yes. They spend more in the
- 13:36real economy. And then when rates rise and those
- 13:38paper values drop, that confidence vanishes and
- 13:41spending completely dries up. That is the wealth
- 13:44effect. in action. But this effect must be highly
- 13:46uneven, right? Like, it only benefits people
- 13:49who already own assets. Absolutely. It actively
- 13:52widens the gap between asset owners and wage
- 13:54earners. Low rates supercharge the wealth of
- 13:58people who already own homes and stocks, while
- 14:00making it much harder for wage earners to buy
- 14:02their first home because prices are being bid
- 14:04up so aggressively. It's a tough dynamic. Yes.
- 14:07Another broad channel is the exchange rate. When
- 14:10a country raises its interest rates relative
- 14:12to the rest of the world, It attracts foreign
- 14:15capital. OK. Global investors always want to
- 14:17park their money where it earns the highest safe
- 14:19yield. So that sudden influx of demand to buy
- 14:23your country's currency strengthens the domestic
- 14:25dollar. So what does this all mean? Like if the
- 14:28dollar in my pocket gets stronger because of
- 14:30higher rates, how does that translate at the
- 14:32grocery store? Is a strong dollar a good thing
- 14:35or a bad thing? It actually cuts both ways simultaneously.
- 14:37Really? Yeah. A stronger domestic dollar makes
- 14:40imported goods much cheaper. The electronics
- 14:44you buy, your imported groceries, your overseas
- 14:46vacations, they all cost less in your local currency.
- 14:49Oh, that sounds great. It does. And it directly
- 14:52helps the central bank lower inflation. But on
- 14:56the flip side, a strong dollar makes your country's
- 14:59exports much more expensive for the rest of the
- 15:01world to buy. Oh, I see. They become less competitive
- 15:04on the global market. That hurts domestic manufacturers,
- 15:07farmers, and exporters, which slows down the
- 15:10domestic economy and can result in significant
- 15:12job losses. So it is a constant balancing act
- 15:16between crushing inflation through cheap imports
- 15:18and protecting domestic jobs. Very much so. And
- 15:21there's one more channel worth discussing, which
- 15:24relies entirely on human psychology, the expectations
- 15:28channel. Psychology, really? Yes. Credibility
- 15:30is a tangible, heavy tool for a central bank.
- 15:34If the public, the labor unions and the financial
- 15:36markets genuinely believe that the central bank
- 15:38will do absolutely whatever it takes to control
- 15:40inflation, That belief alone does half the heavy
- 15:44lifting. Just the belief. Just the belief. Workers
- 15:46might moderate their demands for massive wage
- 15:48increases, and businesses might hesitate to aggressively
- 15:51raise their prices simply because they expect
- 15:53inflation to fall back in line anyway. That's
- 15:56fascinating. But if a central bank loses that
- 15:59public credibility, controlling inflation becomes
- 16:02exponentially harder, requiring much more aggressive
- 16:05rate heights to force the issue. Wow. You know,
- 16:08seeing the immense power of these channels, the
- 16:10mortgages, the currency, the psychology, we have
- 16:13to confront the terrifying reality of trying
- 16:15to actively steer this machine. It is quite a
- 16:18machine to steer. Right. And the people turning
- 16:19the dials are operating with a severe disadvantage.
- 16:22They are. The lag is probably the most daunting
- 16:25aspect of monetary policy. The lag. Yes. When
- 16:28the central bank makes a rate decision today,
- 16:31the full economic effect of that specific decision
- 16:34will not be completely felt in the real economy
- 16:36for... roughly 18 months to two years. Okay,
- 16:39let's unpack this. Think about adjusting the
- 16:42temperature in a shower in an old building with
- 16:44incredibly long pipes. Oh, I hate those showers.
- 16:48Right. You turn the dial to cold, nothing happens,
- 16:50you're still getting scalded, so you turn the
- 16:52dial even further. A minute later, all that freezing
- 16:55water finally arrives at the shower head and
- 16:57you are just shivering. That is exactly what
- 17:00it feels like. So the central banks is essentially
- 17:02setting policy today for a future economic reality
- 17:05they cannot possibly observe. They are reading
- 17:09an economic thermometer that is weeks or months
- 17:11old, adjusting a dial today and waiting two years
- 17:14for the water to hit the sink. Yes. The risk
- 17:16of a massive overshoot seems incredibly high.
- 17:19It is the defining challenge of central banking.
- 17:21They are always acting on a forecast, and forecasts
- 17:24are inherently flawed. Because it's just a guess.
- 17:27Right. By the time today's aggressive rate hikes
- 17:29fully hit the economy, the economy might already
- 17:32be plunging into a severe recession that actually
- 17:35requires immediate rate cuts. Oh, man. Which
- 17:38brings us to the ultimate dilemma, the conflict
- 17:41of mandates. What does that mean? Raising rates
- 17:44to crush inflation puts immense crushing stress
- 17:47on borrowers, on households, and on the stability
- 17:51of the commercial banks that lent them the money.
- 17:53The central bank is constantly forced to weigh
- 17:55the absolute necessity of inflation control against
- 17:58the very real threat to financial stability.
- 18:00If they turn the dial too hard, the pipes burst.
- 18:03If the people running the water plant are essentially
- 18:05driving in the dark and we are the ones who feel
- 18:07the sudden changes in temperature, how do we
- 18:09put on a raincoat? We have to defend ourselves.
- 18:12Yeah. What practical defensive strategies can
- 18:15you, the listener, use today to navigate this
- 18:18plumbing? Well, the first strategy is remarkably
- 18:21simple, but vital. Know your renewal date. Just
- 18:25knowing the date. Yes. If you live in a system
- 18:27like Canada, With five -year expiring terms,
- 18:31your mortgage renewal date is arguably the single
- 18:34most consequential financial date in your life.
- 18:37Write it down. Put it on your calendar a full
- 18:39year in advance. Don't let it sneak up on you.
- 18:42Exactly. Do not let it startle you. You need
- 18:44time to review your budget and prepare for the
- 18:46cash flow shock if rates have risen substantially
- 18:48since you originally signed. And when you actually
- 18:51reach that renewal date, you face the choice
- 18:53between a fixed and a variable rate. Many people
- 18:56approach this by trying to outsmart the market,
- 18:58right? All the time. They read financial news
- 19:00and try to predict what the central bank will
- 19:02do next. Which is a mistake. Yeah, you are never
- 19:04going to out -trade the global bond market. Instead,
- 19:07you have to view this as choosing the specific
- 19:10shape of risk you want to invite into your life.
- 19:12The shape of risk. I love that phrasing. Yeah.
- 19:15Choosing a fixed rate means you want absolute
- 19:17certainty now, but you willingly accept the risk
- 19:20of a massive abrupt step change in your payments
- 19:23five years down the road. Right. Choosing a variable
- 19:25rate means you are accepting continuous rolling
- 19:28adjustments to your life in real time. Neither
- 19:31is perfectly safe. They are simply different
- 19:34shapes of discomfort. Framing it as the shape
- 19:36of risk is definitely the healthiest approach.
- 19:38Yeah. You must match that shape to your personal
- 19:41cash flow stability and your own psychological
- 19:44tolerance for stress. Exactly. Now there is another
- 19:47defensive strategy and it's regarding your savings.
- 19:50Here's where it gets really interesting. Oh yes.
- 19:52We spent time outlining how banks pass rate hikes
- 19:55onto borrowers almost instantly through the fast
- 19:58channel of the prime rate. But the speed at which
- 20:00they pass those higher rates on to say is entirely
- 20:03different. Commercial banks are incredibly slow
- 20:06and grudging when it comes to rewarding savers.
- 20:08So slow. If the central bank has been aggressively
- 20:12raising rates you must proactively check the
- 20:15interest yield on your savings account. Banks
- 20:18rely heavily on customer inertia. They just assume
- 20:21you won't move your money. Right. They will not
- 20:23automatically bump up your yield to match the
- 20:26new higher -rate environment. You often have
- 20:28to make a phone call, negotiate, or manually
- 20:31move your money to a different high -yield product
- 20:33to force them to give you the return you deserve.
- 20:36You always have to advocate for your own money.
- 20:38The system will not automatically optimize for
- 20:40your benefit. It requires active participation.
- 20:43The financial system is a deeply interconnected
- 20:46ecosystem. An action taken at the very center
- 20:49inevitably washes up on your shores. Understanding
- 20:52those underlying tides does not mean you can
- 20:55control them, but it means you can prepare your
- 20:57own defenses. That is so beautifully said. We
- 21:00started with a single invisible overnight interest
- 21:03rate, you know, just the sterile number in a
- 21:05news headline, and we followed it through the
- 21:07pipes. We watched it instantly move the prime
- 21:09rate, tilt the bond market based on expectations.
- 21:12dictate the value of our currency, and quietly
- 21:16reshape the financial reality of every homeowner
- 21:18and renter in the country. It touches everything.
- 21:20It really does. But before we sign off, there
- 21:22is one final, unmentioned scenario to just sort
- 21:25of mull over. OK, let's hear it. We discussed
- 21:28how Canada's five -year mortgage structure acts
- 21:30as a brutal accelerator when rates go up, right?
- 21:33Putting a quick, tight squeeze on households
- 21:35to fight inflation. Right. But what happens when
- 21:38the central bank desperately wants to cut rates
- 21:41to stimulate a struggle gasping economy. If millions
- 21:45of homeowners are trapped inside high fixed rates
- 21:48that they signed three years prior, their monthly
- 21:50payments will not drop. They do not get the financial
- 21:54relief needed to go out and spend money in their
- 21:56community. That is a huge problem. Are they effectively
- 21:59unable to help stimulate the economy until their
- 22:01arbitrary renewal date finally arrives? Does
- 22:05the expiring lease model trap the cure? just
- 22:08as efficiently as it accelerated the pain? The
- 22:10asymmetry of our financial plumbing is a profound
- 22:13structural question, and one well worth thinking
- 22:16about as we watch the next cycle unfold. Absolutely.
- 22:19Thank you so much for joining us on this deep
- 22:21dive. Keep questioning the mechanics of the world
- 22:24around you. Check the right on your savings account
- 22:26this week, and we will catch you on the next
- 22:28deep dive.