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it. Let us begin with the tidbits.
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So. First, let's have a lot of
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tidbits to cover. Today, we're not even doing news
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anymore. It's just all tidbits.
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Yeah. OK, so Jacob Markstrom is hurt.
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Sheldon keeps said he'll get him.
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He's going to miss some time. So Alan is the clear
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replacement. I think this is a big one
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because I mean, did you guys see the injury like Brazil just
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literally just like, sorry, well, I cannot say what Hola,
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Hola, Hola, listen. To this maybe?
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By that hold on, I'm going to bleep that out.
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But Brazil slid, slid, slid right into Markstrom and right
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away they were like, yeah, he's gonna miss some time.
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So I mean, I think Jake Allen probably got picked up in almost
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every league last night as we record this so.
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He got there was an overpay in our league for him.
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I put so in our league for $13. I bid 12.
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Are you serious? Yeah, Big 12 guys in the group
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chat this morning, nobody answered me.
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Oh yeah, I was giving you guys the silent treatment because I'm
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having a terrible week. Because you're playing JQ.
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You know, Jay, Jay Collins only rostered an 18% of leagues right
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now. So only 18.
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Yeah, shocked. He's gotta be rostered in like
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40 I think 50 at. Least I think he was worth a lot
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of money to be honest. I mean, my kind of like grape
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with it was that it's not like New Jersey has been doing well
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lately. You know what?
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I. Mean, yeah, but we all know
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there's still a good team in a in a top team.
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Though look, if you're a team that needs a goalie, Alan is the
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best pick up right now. It's a starting goalie on one of
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the top teams, but they haven't been playing like a top team and
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Markstrom will come back at some point before the fantasy
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playoffs. I.
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Mean we don't know that right now.
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We don't know, but a lot of ambiguity I think.
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They didn't seem like it was season ending.
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It seemed like it was like a week to week type of thing.
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Obviously we don't know, that's just speculation right now.
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But I don't view it as a long term thing.
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I view it as a mid term type of move.
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Out for a month and a half and you can pick up the starting
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really for a top ten team like. But they've been playing like a
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bottom 10 team. Yeah, but you still gotta pick
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that up. Like, I don't think that's you.
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You just leave it because what are the alternatives?
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You know, like. No, no, I'm not disagreeing that
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it's a grid pickup. I just don't think it's an
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amazing pickup. Like, it's not, it's not a it's
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not a pick up Blackwood. That's it exactly.
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Whatever. Same kind of idea, but like,
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yeah, which I'd much rather have Avalanche starter than New
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Jersey temporary starter. OK, well, look at their schedule
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coming up. OK, Montreal, not the easiest
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game potentially then Philly. Philly, then Buffalo, then
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Pittsburgh, then it's Vegas, Montreal, Dallas, Nashville,
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Colorado. Like family?
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For the next like week and 1/2 or a week or two.
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It's going for the next two weeks.
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You're gonna get good matchups. Yeah.
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The one thing here is that Jake Allen has been a starting goalie
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in the past. It was on the Habs, who were
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never really good, but he can manage a starter load even
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though he hasn't done it this year.
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And yes, New Jersey has been slow, but they're pretty elite
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team. So I'm pretty excited about
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this. It's not Blackwood who's going
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to be the surefire starter, but it is a situation where for,
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like, let's say if you have them for a month at least, like I
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think this guy's got to be rostered in way more leagues
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than 18%, you know? I think, I think if you, if you
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have fab in your league, I think it's worth a a 25 to 30% dump of
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your FAB. I think if you have like if you
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have a waiver priority system, I think you have the first one.
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I would burn it on Jake Allen. Let's say if you're stuck at
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goalie, I think that's. Fine.
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Yeah, seriously. I mean, I wish I had them bedded
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a significant amount of my initial bid was 11 that I was
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like I'm going up to 12 and then I got out bid.
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By $1.00 that's. Crazy.
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And nobody else bid. I think one other person bid
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$1.00 or something. So yeah, that was surprising to
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me. I mean, you, you, you're fine
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because you have two good goalies and a third one on the
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way back. But the first place team needs a
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goalie, so I would. Have he didn't even played on
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Blackwood? I don't know what he's doing.
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But anyways, regardless of our specific league, Alan is
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definitely a pickup. Regardless of how high you are
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on the Devils right now, they will figure it out.
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Mike, My point was more just that if they're figuring it out
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only happens towards the end of Markstrom's injury, then you're
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not getting as much value as you'd hope.
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But if it's a long term injury, they're going to figure it out
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around, you know, maybe in a week or two.
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So it's definitely a good pick. Up The only thing I would also
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say with the trade deadline like coming closer and closer, like I
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would say Leslie Marshall mixes extended time.
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There's definitely a chance that they sign a goalie, so that's
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always. Possible.
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Alan does. Yeah, that's true.
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Basically, for now, pick up Alan and see where it goes.
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There's no harm in doing that. He's also trade bait, like
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somebody's gonna wanna starter. If you pick them up, would you
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wanna trade him for like? I would try to trade him.
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No, not for a month, then I would.
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Think you're. Higher.
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Yeah, that's. Fair.
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I think that's I don't think so. Maybe when I?
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Think for sure you can do that. Comes out like Mark comes out
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for the season or something crazy like that, then yeah.
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But I mean, right now, no one's trading for Alan.
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I think it depends on your league.
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People would definitely be hot. If somebody bid a lot in your
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league and you and they didn't get him and you got him, go to
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that manager and try to stop him.
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Yeah, look, you never know. But pick him up for new.
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Solid lately. Actually, yeah, he's a must pick
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up in my opinion. I don't know why he's for sure
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must pick. Up.
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I think he's a must pick up too. But I understand your
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hesitation, Josh. It's a good thing.
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Anyway, this was a lot of time, but I think it was worth it
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because this is big. Cool.
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So let's move on to the next one we got.
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Val Nichushkin suffers a setback and he's going to miss some more
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time. He's out indefinitely.
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Josh, are you still there? Hello.
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He may have suffered a set back but it's all less managers who
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are suffering OK. How dare he not take into
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account his finished fantasy managers.
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Part ridiculous. Seriously.
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This this year have been so frustrating because it's not
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like, OK, he's out for this long and then he'll be back.
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It's he was originally out for seven.
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He was day-to-day. I'm like, OK, it's not the end
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of the world out seven to 10 days.
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I'm like, OK, fine. Misses three weeks.
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He's like, oh, he's close to returning.
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I'm like, OK, finally he's he's in line rushes this morning.
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OK, thank God. Oh, he's out week to week.
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Like what does that even mean? He suffered a set back.
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What does it mean? You know, like.
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What does it mean? Would mean making the numbers.
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It's frustrating how how not clear you know, the NHL teams
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are with the fans. Yeah, obviously they don't have
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to be and you don't wanna tell too much information because
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people get target injuries and blah blah, blah.
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But it sucks for us fantasy owners.
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But anyways, yeah, no, it's brutal and I think it's honestly
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bad for all the Abs in general. I was, I'm going to mention this
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on our Bilo sell high episode, but I think the chicken is such
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a key part of that team, especially their power play and.
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They clearly need him. It's just an Sulphur, the entire
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team I think. Agreed.
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Agreed. I just, um, is there any like
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ambiguity as to if this is like a personal thing, like, you
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know, yes, no. Hurt.
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No, I think it's not a lower body injury.
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OK. It's like directly, right?
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OK, it's somewhat of a positive. Yeah, anyway, it does suck for
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sure for fantasy owners. Moving on, we got Charlie McAvoy
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is still missing time. It looks like For now, Mason
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Lori is the guy on power play one he's been putting up decent.
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Perhaps it's worth rostering while Charlie is out.
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I tend to rely on that side as well, the offensive team though,
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But if Laura has the opportunity to be power play one, yeah.
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I mean, I'd Russian for the meantime.
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Mean whenever there's a power play one on waivers, you're
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always interested in analyzing the situation and seeing if you
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can get any value out of it. He's gonna get you only some
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blocks, mostly in some shots. But yeah, keep an eye on it.
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Josh picked him up in our league.
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How do you feel about that? I mean he got straight zeros
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last game which is unfortunate but.
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Yeah, the game before that he got an assist and yeah, shots in
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three blocks. Yeah, exactly.
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Great. Exactly what I wanted.
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I'll say if it was earlier in the year, if honestly this
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happened like a week or two ago, I would not have been really
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interested. But with Pasternak putting up
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like 9 points in three games and really starting to heat up for
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the same reason that you picked up a Zaca Kevin, you know, once
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once passed us heating up. Anyone on that power play one or
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anyone who gets to play with him is a gets a huge boon, you know,
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but for the long, for the longest time this season, that
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whole squad has been pretty brutal.
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Even the power play one quarterback.
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So it's really just more recently than I'm interested.
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Yeah, McAvoy hasn't had many PowerPoints on the season either
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way, so but it's the deployment that's gonna get you more Paris
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as well and the points upside that you gotta gotta look into
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it. And Macro is the defenseman to
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own on Boston, but you know there's no stranger to him not
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being the power play one guy. If this is working with Laura
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and Laura is playing well, even though McAvoy super useful
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moving forward, it's not the worst thing to consider that
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maybe they're going to keep Lori on that power play one.
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Do you guys agree or it's like no chance?
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Yeah, I. Agree honestly like at the start
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of the season I would have said no chance, but the way this
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season's been going when McAvoy was healthy they've tried a
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bunch of different guys on that power play 1 so I definitely
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don't think he has it locked up. Fair enough.
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Let's move on to our next point. We got John Travares.
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Well, John Tavares still hurt for.
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John Travolta, is that you? Well, anyway, so he's still
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hurt, he's not skating yet and now he's also just got hurt last
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game. So yeah, you should roster
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whoever gets bumped on that power play one.
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Is this for sure gonna be Morgan Riley back up there?
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He's been like they've been running 5 forwards for the
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longest time, which is surprising to me to be honest.
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But now that Taurus is still out in Noises Out, Riley for sure
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gets back up there. I wonder who they put as their
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fifth guy though. It seems to be a Bobby McMahon
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Who? Yes it does.
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Jake is thrilled. I am thrilled.
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He's been good all year. Honestly.
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He's, you know, it's just a temporary thing until the other
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guys get healthy. But I think we're all singing
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McMahon for now is a decent idea.
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But with NYS out, who's gonna be that next guy?
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That's what I'm curious about. Is going to be more really.
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Yeah, it's Riley for sure. Yeah, they don't really have
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anybody like offensively. Like it's Nick Robertson, Max
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Domi, you're like Fraser Minton. Like it's none of those guys.
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I think they're doing like A5 forward power play.
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You really have to trust those five forwards and we're getting
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to the point where, you know, after you lose nice antivirus
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like you're not, they're not trusting this, you know, 4th and
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5th choice to be on a FIFA forward power play.
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They're clearly not a fan of Riley on that power play, but
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he's done it for years and so they're not gonna be scared to
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go back to him for a bit. Yeah.
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And I was gonna say, I mean, this comes out an interesting
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opportunity where maybe you should, you know, I mean,
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Riley's pretty highly rostered, but I mean, he's dropped in our
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league, which is a very deep league, but believes only have
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two games next week. So it doesn't even really help
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you there, you know? So.
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Anyway, if he does get that power, play one, Yeah, if he
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does get that power, play one. It's not too exciting, put it
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that way, Right? So.
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A long time this year and wasn't doing anything with it.
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Yeah, exactly. Next point we got Noah Dobson is
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hurt. He fell awkwardly and there is
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no current timetable for his return.
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We don't know who's going to be on power play one, but it'll
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definitely be interesting. Pellet or Pollock or Pollock or
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Pelic, which is unbelievable that those are the two guys on
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the same team are most likely to be his replacements and they
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usually do have solid peripherals.
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Yeah, I just saw that they announced that Dobson won't
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require. Surgery, which is huge for four
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fantasy managers. Like he's not gonna miss the
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entire season. We probably the best case
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scenario in terms of like falling awkwardly and having a
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mysterious injury. But that P1 spot I'm guessing
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goes to Ryan Pulock and he's got a nasty slap shot.
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So I think he actually has some goal threat on the power play
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and he's usually really good for blocks.
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So I think I'd be interested in in a lot of leagues, but the on
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this power play already is not one of the best.
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So you have to take that into account.
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Yeah, I would view that as more of a.
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He's already kind of solid for Bangor peripherals, so if now
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he's gonna chip in some points here and there, then that can
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make him like an. Interesting.
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I'd rather have him than Laura that we just mentioned from
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Boston. Yeah, I would expect Boston to
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get more power play points than Islanders, but I expect Pollock
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to get a lot more proofs, which would give him like a safer
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floor. Especially in bangers leagues, I
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think Pollock has more value now, so I would definitely be
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interested. And it's probably 1 quarterback
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on waivers that has helper. What more can you ask for in
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terms of being able to stream that?
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Yeah, I agree. You should.
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You should pick up Pollock. Let's move on to the next one.
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We have Josh Norris, who was hurt last game and he didn't
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return for precautionary reasons.
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He's squishy was so monitor closely.
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I wrote that I'm right. Here, But yeah, you could roster
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whoever gets gets back online one or power play one.
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Shane Pinto has been his replacement recently on the
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Senators second line, which is a ridiculous second line between
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Giroux and ketchup, which is just nuts.
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And Pinto has actually been pretty good as of late.
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So do you think once Norris is back like Pinto's gone, what do
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we think? How does that work?
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Yeah, I don't think, I don't think whoever takes Norris's
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spot in the top 6 is going to keep it after Norris's back.
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They tried Norris on the third line for a bit earlier this year
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and it was brutal and they brought him back up to the top
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six and immediately started producing.
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So I don't see why. And he's been playing well
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before he got injured, so I don't see why they would drop
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him back to to the third line and power play one.
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Also Norris, even when he was on the third line he was stable to
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power play 1 so I don't see him losing that permanently.
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Maybe Pinto will stay line too and then Norris can even go line
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one with Stitzel Batherson which is sick.
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Yeah, that's true. That's pretty good.
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I mean, because he can play on the wing as well.
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But yeah, this is this is a guy who hasn't been rostered in as
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many leagues as he should be all season.
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Now he's hurt. So if he does get dropped and
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you can add him to an IR or IR plus.
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Whatever or buy low opportunity. Yeah, for sure.
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Cool. Let's move on.
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We got cap Rozov is returning tonight, January 23rd.
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He's a top six. So the top 6 is basically
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Kaprizov, Rossi, Zuccarello. Then line 2 is Boldy Erickson
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neck and Hartman Ross is just going to get bumped off power
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play 1. So yeah, those are the top 2
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lines. Usual.
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Yeah, well, Rossi has Rossi always been there?
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It's. Kind of been like a bit up and
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down. This is the exact lines that
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they had at the start of the season when they were all
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healthy. It's been a while since they've
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all been healthy because for Zuccarello and Erickson, Eck
16:35
were out and then Kaprizov was out.
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And so this is the first time like that whole kind of the
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important part of the top 6. Hartman wasn't always this guy
16:42
on the second line. I think they had Johansson there
16:43
and he's injured right now, but that's not really relevant.
16:46
It's really about the five other guys in the top six.
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So this has been what they've been running.
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So I'm not surprised to see it go back to that.
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And to note that Jared Spurgeon, who's also returning from injury
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is quarterback in the P1. So he was a really good stream
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earlier couple weeks ago when he got that deployment.
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Now I'd assume that becomes relevant again for Fantasy.
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Not the best fantasy defenseman, but if he's on PS1 and
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underscoring like he'll, he'll get some looks.
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Yeah, copper socks are like #1 offensive guy for sure.
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Someone else with this kind of effects on their team, I would
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say is Gustafson, who's lost his last four with posting under
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A-90 save percentage in each of the games.
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So like, you can also be a decently good buy low right now.
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Phillip, Kristen. Yeah, he's definitely by low.
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He's had some terrible games lately and I still think moving
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forward he's probably like a up 6-7 fantasy goalies so.
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Yeah, yeah. And like if your league mates
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don't connect the dots of like, oh, Coppers loves back the while
17:40
they're going to start doing better.
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Like it's a really good opportunity to buy players on
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that team in general. Jake, would you trade Logan
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Thompson for Gustafsson? I was thinking.
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I was thinking I would. I would.
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Yeah. Yeah, even though he's wrecking
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me this week, Disrespect to Thompson, I think he's.
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Awesome. No, he's great.
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But I think Gustafson's just been at another level.
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Obviously not lately. But yeah, that's why you can buy
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it low. I trust Gustafson's volume way
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more, but we'll get into that later on.
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At the end of the day, I don't know.
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It depends on your roster construction.
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If you want to win like percentages, then I trust
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Thompson more. But if you're gonna go for
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volume, like if you got 3 goalies on your team and you
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want to win saves every week, then yes, I'd rather go this in
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as one. Of those more goalie goals.
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That's fair. That's a good point.
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Have you seen the movie Tricky? No, I know it from a show.
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What what movie is? Anora.
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Oh, I don't. Know one of the characters has
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touch and he gets made fun of. No, that's hilarious.
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I know it from like a show called The Great which is I also
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found it hilarious. There.
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Yeah, I know that show you. Really.
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Yeah. It was Catherine the Great.
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No. Yeah, OK, We're gonna talk about
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this afternoon. Either of those things and I
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feel left out, so let's move on. Great segue, Josh.
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Alright, we got squishy. Linus Ullmark joins team on the
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Rock on the road trip. He should be the clear starter
19:13
when he's back. It's the the bylaw window for
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him is closing now. What does that mean for Marilyn?
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And he's just going to go to the NHL and just be like, like, it
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never happened. No, it will be the backup.
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Yeah, I think it'll be the backup.
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I mean, they're starting Forsberg as we record this
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today, they're starting Forsberg.
19:29
But when Omar comes back, I'm not sure if they give him all
19:32
the starts. Like he should be the clearer
19:35
starter. Like he's obviously earned it
19:36
with his player in the season. But Maryland has earned his, you
19:40
know, more starts than just back-to-back kind of guy, right?
19:43
So I wonder if they would. Be careful.
19:45
With. Yeah, exactly.
19:47
Because he's squishy so. He is very squishy.
19:49
Him and Josh Norris, yeah. Yeah, and and all marks an elite
19:54
goalie who hasn't been a sure thing starter for years now
19:59
because on Buffalo he used to split with swimming.
20:02
So if Maryland is doing well and like Forsberg sucks.
20:05
So this is going to be the first time if you guys are right that
20:07
Almark is going to be paired with a good goalie this year
20:10
coming back from injury, all those factors like it could be a
20:13
tandem. So I mean, you know, if you hold
20:15
Mariline and don't just drop him unless he actually gets demoted
20:18
to the AHL. But if he's in the NHL with
20:20
Hallmark, he could be like a. High end or whatever like a mid
20:24
tier 1B. I mean, I think, I think that if
20:27
Omar comes back and Omar's getting like 66% of the starts,
20:30
like 2 out of three games, like I I don't know if you can hold
20:34
Marilyn in for that. Yeah.
20:36
Yeah, he's got to be. It's gotta be like a, you know,
20:38
like a whatever 5545 type thing, you know.
20:42
But I don't see that happening. Yeah, you don't pay like the
20:45
amounts that they're paying all Mark.
20:47
And especially with how well he was playing before, like, the
20:49
only reason he wouldn't get all the stars is because of, like,
20:52
injury risk. But even then, it's gonna be
20:53
like a two out of every three. It's not gonna be a 5050.
20:56
They're also fighting for a playoff spot.
20:57
They have to play their best players.
20:59
That's true, yeah. The hubs are giving them a run
21:00
for their money right now so. That's true.
21:03
It's not for granted. Anymore.
21:06
Doves are Marilyn and the rest of the season.
21:10
Dobesh is it actually? Dobesh.
21:13
Yeah, yeah, OK, Noted. Noted.
21:19
All right, so next you got Dowdy is practicing in a contact
21:24
jersey. His return is imminent and he's
21:26
going to slot on power play. One, I will admit defeat because
21:29
I was a clerk treasurer for a long time and that is not
21:32
happening. He's only 58% owned.
21:34
So scoop him now if you can, and if he's free, what Clark was
21:39
getting looks at, right? Yes.
21:41
He was that's. Crazy.
21:44
Is it gonna be 1 of? Those rare defensemen right wing
21:47
dual positions. I mean that would.
21:49
Be I don't, I don't know if he'll have extended play there
21:52
that he'll get the eligibility, but for actual hockey, that's
21:57
still really fun so. The one thing with this um,
22:01
Dowdy, if he doesn't come back like by next week, then Jordan
22:05
Spence has been on the power play.
22:07
One had a really good last three games.
22:09
But anyway, for now, I mean Dowdy is just going to be the
22:12
guy there when he gets back. But honestly, this is very
22:13
exciting about Clark. It's like a reverse Jackson
22:16
Lacombe, so I wonder how it'll go, but I've never really seen
22:23
this in the NHL before. Defenseman going forward and
22:26
having it be a sustainable thing other than like Brendan Smith,
22:29
but he plays 8 minutes a night every five games they put.
22:32
Him it was like 3-4 days ago where during the game day they
22:35
put Clark up on the in right wing.
22:39
But he said like he loves playing defence and he wants to
22:41
be defenceman so he'll but like he'll do whatever it takes for
22:45
the team, you know, whatever the coach wants to do.
22:48
So it's one of those questions, I don't think extended look
22:50
there, but it's still fun to mention, yeah.
22:52
But anyways, back to Dowdy. I do think this is could only be
22:56
positive for the Kings. They've been pretty brutal at
22:59
goal scoring over the past couple of weeks.
23:01
Like they're really scoring not a lot of goals.
23:03
So I think especially those guys on power play one, like the only
23:06
guy who's been consistently scoring on that entire team is
23:08
Kempe. Everyone else like other like
23:10
power play one, guys you look at like Kopitar, looking at
23:13
Byfield, you're looking at Fiala.
23:14
Like those have been pretty horrendous lately points wise.
23:17
So hopefully if you're one of those there's, you know, Dowdy
23:20
coming in, really, you know, a good power play quarterback
23:23
changes the whole, whole view of it.
23:26
So this could be a good time to buy low on those guys, if you
23:28
believe in that, yeah. No doubt about that slaps me.
23:35
Thanks guys. Now you're all.
23:36
Week but. Come out now.
23:39
Hours though, Yeah, No, not. Exactly, I'm a bit rusty.
23:42
I'm still getting acclimatized. It's true.
23:46
So we got Circuit. Chev missed two games but he may
23:48
be back by the time this goes live.
23:50
He's a buy low for the moment. Agreed.
23:53
Circuit check was great and I mean he's no John.
23:55
I think he's a great. Highlight, to be honest, yeah.
23:59
Or the injury I know I've. Looked so.
24:01
I I agree that he's a, he's a good buy low and I saw he's out
24:03
again tonight, but it's still like day-to-day type of thing.
24:06
So yeah, he could be back any day now.
24:08
And yeah, he's been, he's been brutal.
24:10
But Utah is a very streaky team and when their power play
24:13
clicks, they scored in bunches. So having the quarterback for
24:15
that power play is someone I really like, I think.
24:18
He's one of the more underrated fantasy defensemen out there.
24:21
I would take him ahead of a lot of guys.
24:23
I rate him pretty highly rest of season.
24:25
Probably like a top 10 fantasy defenseman.
24:28
Wow, really? That's a stretch to me, but top
24:30
10? Who are you taking top 10?
24:33
Macar Quinn Hughes wrote Yosie. That's three Werenski, 4
24:38
Darlene. That's 5-6 Cider 7 Morrissey.
24:44
No, you're, you're. Taking Sergachev.
24:47
Morrissey. Yeah, that's crazy.
24:49
Yeah, I'm. Thinking Headman.
24:50
I'm thinking Hedman ahead of him.
24:51
I'm taking Adam Fox ahead of him.
24:54
That's nine so far, maybe weaker.
24:56
OK, that's 10. So he's not 1010.
24:58
Defensemen. But.
24:59
After that, who else like I would take Morrissey?
25:03
Morrissey easily. OK, then one of the.
25:05
Other names you're not taking anymore.
25:07
He's going to know. Barring injury, I take.
25:09
Dobson over him I would take. Over Dobson, thanks for coming
25:15
over more things for cheap over Hamilton over Lane Hudson.
25:19
Yeah, that's. Crazy.
25:21
I mean, he just got. Better category coverage His
25:24
category. Is not that great though.
25:26
I. Mean for defensemen, you're
25:28
getting blocked, you're getting shots, and you know, his
25:30
deployment is like solid points. But when he's not getting points
25:34
and his cats are like, OK, like I like him, I think he's good,
25:37
but I think I don't think he's sniffing the top ten.
25:39
I. Mean, I think he's definitely
25:41
around there, 10/11, it's close enough, yeah.
25:44
Close enough. Anyways I.
25:46
Guess like, I mean, I was pretty shocked you said that.
25:48
Now I'm looking into this. It's not that much of A stretch,
25:50
but yeah, good. Good bye.
25:52
Lo, I just one quick thing. I saw a redraft of the 2016 NHL
25:56
draft. It was like a post on Instagram
25:58
and Sergachev went 9th overall in that redraft of like, if you
26:02
drafted them today, guess where he went ninth?
26:04
Guess who picked him? The Habs.
26:06
Guess who he never played for the Habs.
26:08
Devastating. Yeah, at least we got.
26:10
Jonathan Drouin, who was amazing for us.
26:13
No. Yeah, seriously.
26:16
OK, then we got Adam Lowry out week to week.
26:19
Josh and Kevin rejoice. Big elephant.
26:22
We do. I just.
26:23
Rejoice. I've got that industry.
26:26
You can what? You put it in my pants just for
26:32
me. You're gonna get.
26:33
US banned draw dropping dropping curse words and stuff and my
26:39
goodness. Not that you'll hear it because
26:40
it will be bleeped, but still. It may have happened, it may
26:43
have not. Anyway, Big L for The Jets IRL,
26:46
but not too fantasy relevant. Not much to say here, anybody,
26:51
no. I mean he's like solid guy and
26:54
like deeper Bangor face off when leagues that count shorthanded
26:57
points because he's guaranteed to Shorty every time.
26:59
So I think that's. Only our league, but yeah, he
27:01
only gets one when he plays me. Yeah, yeah, that too, but.
27:06
Yeah, no. So I don't think it really
27:08
affects much. And it's not like his deployment
27:09
has like a hole that's important to fill because it was like line
27:13
3 power play 2 or something like that.
27:14
Yeah. But this next news is pretty
27:17
interesting, William. Carlson week to week, bad for
27:20
Vegas in real life. Not too fantasy relevant, but
27:23
what do you think of? I mean, he was.
27:24
Playing in the top six like here and there, to be honest.
27:27
And I mean, maybe I'm just remembering the crazy week he
27:30
had against me. Because.
27:33
He, I think he scored like his first hat trick or something or
27:35
just got three points. No, he's really like if if you
27:37
go look at his like game logs and like past month averages and
27:40
he's an average. He's really been kind of like,
27:42
not relevant this year, but I can.
27:44
Pinpoint exactly the week he played against, Yeah.
27:46
No, but he's like in the past, he's shown flashes of being
27:50
relevant. He's a good streamer guy.
27:51
Yeah, like if you're in a deeper bang your face off when league,
27:54
you know, then he could be a hold.
27:55
But this really doesn't swing the needle for anyone.
27:58
Yeah, No, it's not. Relevant at all, My bad.
28:02
OK. And you, didn't you?
28:05
Didn't need to make it an awkward pause like that Jakey
28:07
day he doesn't really want to be you really want to expose me
28:12
like that because we. Wrote not fantasy relevant and
28:15
it's like wait it's fantasy relevant and then on second
28:17
thought I just remember. Playing as William Carson
28:22
earlier this season, he had like a nasty week.
28:24
I think it was just when he came back from injury.
28:27
Yeah, him and Adam Lauer just they're out to get you, Kevin.
28:30
Honestly, they are. Yeah, and.
28:32
Then yeah, last but not least, Patrick Kane is day-to-day with
28:35
an upper body injury. Tarasenko currently taking his
28:37
spot on power play one. Kane's been awesome lately and
28:42
the the wings over all have slowed down since they're insane
28:44
stretch, but like still been pretty good.
28:46
One thing I would say, I'm looking at these top 2 lines
28:51
honestly, I think Patrick Kane easily goes back to the power
28:54
play one. Do you guys agree?
28:55
No question. For sure.
28:57
One thing I will say though is where does Marco Casper go when
29:01
Patrick Kane comes back? Because he's been pretty good.
29:03
Like he looks great on ways even with he.
29:05
Was in the yeah. So basically this just screws
29:09
over Tarasenko in both line 2 and power play.
29:12
One ways, yeah. Exactly.
29:14
OK. Cool.
29:15
So if yeah, I mean just honestly with.
29:18
How insane the Red Wings power play has been lately, like
29:21
they're currently I think ranked second power play in the league
29:23
and they were not that anywhere near that like a month ago.
29:26
You know, they've been kind. Of cold, though now they're 1
29:28
from 9 in their last power plays where they were before they were
29:31
like 18 for 30 or something, which obviously we knew they
29:34
were due for some regression. Mean Dylan Larkin was last
29:39
episode, yeah. No, but you're still hot.
29:42
Without just. Crazy hot they've been, even if
29:43
they slowed down a little bit, like if this was a longer term
29:46
injury, I'd be rushing to grab Tarasenko.
29:49
The fact that it's day-to-day is like, I don't wanna spend an add
29:51
on Tarasenko and then Kane comes back the next day.
29:54
So that's like until there's more clarity on that.
29:56
I wouldn't like rush to pick him up.
29:58
But I do think a spot on that first Detroit power play these
30:01
days is pretty valuable. I agree.
30:04
Yeah, Todd. McLellan heard that.
30:05
We called him a defensive coach and he took it really personally
30:08
and now they've been offensively elite so, but only.
30:11
On the power play they've been, damn it.
30:14
Gosh darn you guys. Whoops.
30:20
Listening. Don't swear.
30:21
Yeah, yeah. Bangor Management.
30:22
With Jake and the potty mouths. My gosh, this is on Hinge today.
30:29
It's never been like this. I swear this never happens.
30:34
OK, so let's move on to our bonus segment this week.
30:39
JT Miller hot or not? OK, so this.
30:43
Part like huge debate in our group chat mostly.
30:46
Mostly because Jackie has looks right?
30:51
I would do nasty things to Jmiller.
30:53
No, sorry, we could. Do I have to bleep that out?
30:58
Probably not. Enough with the rejoicing,
31:00
Kevin. Enjoy stuff for For Today
31:05
lifetime. Anyway, I'm going to continue
31:11
but. I, I think over the last couple
31:13
of days, we definitely realized that I think Jake completely
31:16
disagrees with us on, on JT Miller's fantasy outlook rest of
31:19
the season. And it was too hot to not talk
31:21
about it on the podcast. Yeah.
31:23
So shall I start with the bear case?
31:26
Yeah. OK, so the the basically Jackie
31:29
did finance. In case you can't tell by that.
31:32
Jackie thinks you should sell JT Miller because, I mean, the
31:35
trade seems like it's basically about to happen.
31:38
Probably the Rangers, maybe a couple other teams.
31:41
But Jackie thinks no matter where he goes, he'll be worse
31:44
than what he is now, which he's been pretty, pretty cold for the
31:47
last two weeks, specifically. The last month has definitely
31:50
not been the best, but I disagree with that.
31:53
I think that no matter where he goes, he'll be better.
31:55
And I would say J's a bi lo and Jake, he's calling myself high.
31:59
So that's the, that's the main, the main thing, so.
32:03
Basically like I'll just give you like a few basic points of
32:06
why I think that he's a cell high OK, First of all, I think
32:12
he's going to keep being a double double wherever he goes.
32:14
So the proofs are there. That's great, but you didn't
32:16
pick JT top ten overall in Bangor leagues for just this
32:19
peripherals. You picked him because you think
32:22
he's an amazing overall player for Bangor leagues.
32:24
Also probably top two rounds for points lease.
32:26
He's got 1.25 last year. I don't think that's going to
32:29
happen. I think he's going to be .8 to
32:31
.9 wherever he goes rest of season.
32:34
But what I think is you can do is sell him on the hype of a new
32:38
team. And the reason I think that the
32:41
new environment actually makes it more of a cell as opposed to
32:44
a buy is because when players who are of an elite pedigree go
32:48
from there being like on a decent team, whatever, to like,
32:53
let's say a contender playoff team, they ultimately have
32:57
regressed most of the time. And I think a big distinction of
33:01
like whether or not a player is going to succeed on a new team
33:04
is, is this player the guy on a current team or is he good
33:08
complementary player? So just to name a few, Chemo
33:12
Meyer, Patrick Kane and Bo Horvat Bohora was sick on
33:15
Vancouver before he got traded. So but these guys went to new
33:19
teams, slowed down tremendously. Whereas you have like Claude
33:22
Giroux and Jake Guentzel who went to new teams midway through
33:25
the year, not off season where you could practice midway midway
33:29
through the year. They did well.
33:30
My point is that I don't think JT Miller is going to be the
33:34
guy, the number one player on wherever he goes.
33:36
And I think for that reason, people will think he will be and
33:41
therefore you're going to be able to sell them for that.
33:44
This is gotta be elite, elite targets.
33:47
That's why he's essentially my cell.
33:49
But I can see also why this could go the other way.
33:52
And I'm sure you guys can present a great case for that.
33:55
I mean, but you're saying that you can sell him for an elite,
33:58
elite target? Like nobody's taking JT for
34:00
anybody that's elite right now because he's been not good and
34:05
he has a lot of uncertainty with the trade, right?
34:06
Like if he goes to the Rangers, he's logging into that top 6 for
34:09
sure. He's gonna play on the wing most
34:11
likely. We don't know who goes the other
34:13
way. Like let's say it's a quieter or
34:15
Lafreniere or something. But I wouldn't be surprised if
34:17
if J's right wing on line 1 and line 2 and he's getting the P1,
34:22
maybe he won't get face offs anymore if you're a face off
34:24
league. But I think his category still
34:26
be there and his points outlook should probably be just as good
34:30
or better. The worst thing would be if
34:32
because the Rangers is playoff schedule gets worse, but if
34:36
we're talking just regular season production, this one
34:38
sorry. I felt hesitation before, yeah.
34:44
But either way I I feel like I just disagree with you what
34:47
you're saying because who are you trading him for?
34:50
You're saying aim high but you can't aim high so how?
34:53
Like who are you taking say? So I get where Jake is coming
34:57
from, I disagree, but I get where he's coming from and like
34:59
the logic makes sense. The one thing though is that you
35:02
said that you see him being a point 8.9 guy where he goes, but
35:06
that's currently what he's doing.
35:08
So this wouldn't be like a sell high.
35:09
A cell high would be if he's currently doing like 1.2 and you
35:12
think it's going to drop to that point 8.9, then that's a cell
35:15
high. You're right now like you're
35:16
just saying sell him for his current value, which is way
35:19
lower than his value should have been at the start of the season,
35:21
which is essentially a cell low. So that's where I disagree.
35:24
I don't disagree that I mean I think he's gonna get better with
35:27
the trade, but I think that's very much like it could go
35:30
either way. Like you said.
35:31
I think the main thing I disagree with is the fact that
35:33
he's a sell high cuz I just don't think he has high highest
35:35
value right now. Who's training?
35:37
For Drake so. I'll just answer Josh's question
35:40
and then get into that. The reason I'm saying that is
35:43
because, yes, his value is going to stay the way it is.
35:46
He's gonna keep doing what he's doing, but when he gets traded,
35:49
people are going to think like, well, like you guys, that he's
35:52
going to do way better than I think he's going to do.
35:55
So that's where you can sell the hype.
35:57
So right now, if you try to sell me JT Miller for, I'll use an
36:03
example of somebody on my way for the.
36:05
Trade to happen and then try to sell, yeah.
36:07
This is you gotta wait for the actual in real life trade to
36:10
happen. But I literally think any change
36:11
of pace unless he goes to like a garbage team like is a is what
36:17
fantasy owners are going to think.
36:18
This is an upgrade from his current disaster situation in
36:21
Vancouver. So um, basically that's what I'm
36:24
saying is once the trade happens then you sell him.
36:27
So not now. If someone tried to trade me,
36:30
I'd say he goes to Carolina or the Rangers. 2 good teams where
36:34
he should be better but I don't necessarily think he wanted to
36:36
go to. Carolina, if I had the choice.
36:38
I think he wants to go there. I mean, he was laughing as the
36:41
two see there and he'd be sick. Yeah, I think you.
36:43
Do a lot better on Carolina, by the way, than the Rangers.
36:46
So anyway. But that's just an idea.
36:50
Who would you rather Forsberg or JT Miller?
36:52
Forsberg. Josh Miller See, that's what
36:56
I'm. Saying right now, but when he
36:58
gets traded to a new team and it's like, oh, he goes when he
37:00
gets traded to. New team JT, but nobody's doing
37:03
force work for JT right now. See, that's what I'm.
37:05
Saying though when he gets traded to a new team, I would
37:07
not trade Forsberg away for JT after looking into this more or
37:11
Marner. You know these are guys who I
37:13
think are realistic targets. Pasternak right?
37:16
JT goes to a new team who like Pasta.
37:18
Like arguably got drafted before him, right?
37:20
So like that's you're already shooting for for hire.
37:25
Saying now it's it's less about the fact that he's a cell high
37:27
now more just the second he gets traded, you know, his value is
37:31
gonna go up to the, you know, expected like a lot some people
37:34
it's gonna be split half. Some people think he's worse,
37:36
some people think is better. You find the guy in your league
37:38
who thinks he's gonna be better and you sell him on that value
37:40
and you could get a more guaranteed guy than J's kind of
37:45
question mark. So I get what you're saying, but
37:47
that's exactly, but I think by all it takes is one person
37:50
thinking that he's going to get better like me and Kevin do and
37:53
then you sell it to that person and does it by J.
37:56
Now while his value is low, I think he's a buy.
37:59
Low now, but and can you take me saying that he could become a
38:01
cell high the second the trade goes through?
38:02
So I think I think both are true.
38:04
It's it's very exciting if you're if you've been interested
38:08
in trading for JT and also if you own JT, but I would
38:11
personally once he gets straight like do you guys remember when
38:14
Timo Meyer went to the double S and we thought he was going to
38:16
be elite yes mean they're just. They're just dumb, yeah.
38:20
They're playing. Teemo like $8 million to not be
38:23
on PP one. Yeah, yeah.
38:25
But remember that like we were all super excited about that,
38:28
you know, and so I mean, if GT. Doesn't end up being on P1
38:30
wherever he goes, and obviously it's a huge L and I would not
38:33
have this opinion, right? I'm just assuming that wherever
38:35
he goes, I'm gonna use them, so I do.
38:37
To cut you guys off, but actually one of our later
38:40
episodes this week is gonna be discussing JT so I feel like we
38:43
should we should wrap it up cause we're gonna be talking
38:45
about it again soon yeah it's a. Very interesting discussion at
38:49
the end of the day. We'll dive more into it later,
38:51
but yeah, it's a very exciting time to around this whole JT
38:55
situation. So move on to the would you
38:56
rathers, um, for the rest of season.
38:59
So we got Frank Vatrano or Lucas Raymond Camel.
39:02
You just. Did me like that, but that's
39:04
fine. Yeah, that's.
39:05
Crazy. I gotta leave it to the Would
39:07
you rather I'm? So sorry, do you want to edit
39:10
the whole thing out? No, not.
39:12
Editing that out, I'm keeping it in.
39:13
That's OK, fine. You changed, man.
39:17
You changed. You'll take.
39:19
The next floor, he'll take the next 4.
39:22
Alright, I could, I could start on this one.
39:24
To me it's an easy Lucas Raymond and I don't know about you guys.
39:28
I mean, I'm looking at their numbers right now over the past.
39:31
I mean the category. Coverage is the main difference,
39:34
right? Even that.
39:34
Massive yes, Vetrano is the cat guy and Raymond to the points
39:39
guy. But if I'm looking at past month
39:42
right now, first of all the difference in points is.
39:45
Points per game. I don't.
39:46
Expect to stay at this level though it's gonna be close in.
39:49
This but remains gonna end up with more points than I know.
39:51
I don't think that's a hot take. Their shots on goal are almost
39:53
the same and Vetrano gets an extra 1.2 hits and an extra .5
39:57
blocks. So to me, it's an easy Raymond
40:00
if you look at it. On the season, Vetrano averages
40:03
3.2 shots and 2.5 hits, which is honestly elite category
40:07
coverage, whereas Raymond is more like 2 shots 0.5 hits.
40:11
So you're getting extra two hits from Vagino, an extra shot a
40:15
game from Vacchiano, and the points should be?
40:18
5.6 points and you're losing the four powerful points.
40:21
But that's the thing. How?
40:22
Close. Do you think the points gap is
40:23
going to be and doesn't make up for like the the elite double
40:25
double the Toronto is? Raymond's breakout year, I think
40:28
he's been unreal. And if he wasn't on a team with
40:30
a terrible, terrible, like playoff schedule, then I would
40:34
have tried to trade for him earlier.
40:35
But yeah, no, to me it's not close.
40:38
But I think it's just they're just two different types of
40:40
players, but the difference is too far apart.
40:42
Even though the Caps difference is also far apart, it's just
40:45
not. So when you look at Raymond
40:46
stats for the season, he's averaging like 1.1 points per
40:48
game, but half of those are power play points, which never,
40:51
never six, right? So like you're kind of assuming
40:53
that he's going to regress in some way.
40:54
The power plays gonna regress. If he if he regresses .2 in the
40:57
power play, he's at .3 power play points on the season and
40:59
he'll average like .9 which I think points.
41:03
Going up that much more than what he's at now, I don't see
41:05
why he would finish higher than .6.
41:07
Yeah, that's. Fair, but then at that point it
41:08
was a .3 difference which is obviously a more of a
41:11
conversation. Like, the way I see it is that
41:15
I'm gonna pick Raymond because points are harder to come by.
41:17
That's like simply what it is. And I think that the difference
41:20
there makes up for it. Also, if you wanted to pick like
41:23
you have one of the each, you wanna pick a guy up from
41:25
waivers, who would you rather, Vetrano plus, like Kent Johnson
41:29
or Raymond plus Nita rider? You know what I mean?
41:32
You could pick up Nita riders easier, I think.
41:35
And Ken Johnson's points are too volatile.
41:37
So to me, that's why I'm like, OK, go for the points guy.
41:40
And I think it's just a safer bet.
41:42
Yeah, I mean, I I take Raymond as well.
41:45
All in agreement. Look at that.
41:46
All right, Kevin move on. I.
41:48
Started off with a little ball, OK.
41:50
OK, fair enough. Alright, the next one.
41:53
It's because I said it. That's why exactly little.
41:57
Trap for you fell right into it. Alright, this one is talking
42:03
goalies. Who would you rather have rest
42:05
of the season, Aiden Hill or Jeremy Sweetman?
42:09
That's a tough one. I think I'm gonna go swimming,
42:12
yeah, because Boston's going to be fighting for a playoff spot,
42:16
whereas I think Vegas is a little safer in that way.
42:19
And I just. Samsonov is not necessarily been
42:22
a 1B, but he's played more than your average second tier goalie
42:26
or Corpus. They alternate every.
42:27
Starts. It's literally a 5050 there.
42:29
Yeah, but you know, Vegas is a juggernaut and the quality is
42:33
always going to be good. Exactly.
42:35
Like to meet, you need like swimming has the most saves of
42:38
any Golian Angel over the past month.
42:40
And that's because they need to play their best guy because
42:42
they're finally starting to heat up, as Josh mentioned.
42:45
So that's why I'm going to go with swimming because, you know,
42:48
the fantasy playoffs are the end of the regular season.
42:50
They want to make the playoffs. That's why it's just simple.
42:54
Who gets more? Wins even with the starts
42:56
disparity though. I I would say swimming because
43:00
it's they're alternating in Vegas now I.
43:02
I think I'd still take Eden Hill.
43:05
Josh, I'm. The tiebreaker.
43:06
Usually I I talk so fast that I don't get to be the tiebreaker,
43:09
but I say who? Who gets more wins?
43:11
I think Eden Hill gets more OK. My choice for between the two
43:15
would be swimming, but I do think he'll get more wins.
43:18
But but yeah, I think it's pretty much everything that you
43:20
guys said. The fact that Hill and and
43:23
Samsonov are now splitting starts pretty evenly, which, you
43:27
know, you guys kind of like said would happen earlier.
43:29
But I still think he's gonna get the majority of the starts from
43:31
when we made the bet. So I'm still feeling confident.
43:35
Oh, yeah, no, no, he'll he'll should still get more saves
43:37
because Vegas is that much better of a team.
43:39
But swimming is a great goalie. It's hard to find a guy who's
43:42
gonna put up solid rate stats while also getting the quantity
43:44
that he's gonna get. I will say this is just random
43:47
fun fact, but I just searched up there.
43:49
I just searched up like their numbers to compare and it says
43:52
that Swami's day-to-day with an undisclosed issue.
43:54
So yeah, just. Saw that too, I don't have the
43:57
time. Of that I made this that was not
43:59
let that. Affect what you rather the
44:01
sanctity of the would you rather but just an interesting thank
44:03
you for not. Respecting the sanctity of the
44:05
rather. Yeah.
44:06
And really appreciate it. Yeah, exactly.
44:08
Not everybody can be as graceful as you, but I know.
44:11
I would. Also I take swimming but I think
44:14
it's close. I think you're comparing 2
44:16
really good goalies. Is that truly a hill you want to
44:20
die on moving? On moving money all right,
44:26
defenseman rest of season Josh Morrissey or Miro Heiskanen and
44:32
I'm I'm a noted haskin and hater for fantasy, but I think Dallas
44:36
is heating up right now and I kind of want Hassan on my team.
44:40
I I like. Morrissey.
44:42
Yeah. Because for the same reasons as
44:44
you don't like him. Kevin Haskins.
44:46
Just very inconsistent. And yeah, yeah, I just feel more
44:51
comfortable having Morrissey, you know, I'm looking.
44:54
At their their numbers now and for some reason in my mind like
44:57
I'm so much higher on Morrissey than he's going like he's gonna
45:00
just kind of like you guys I. Was the Josh Morrissey truther.
45:04
I got him on his breakout year. Yeah, I'm good with these
45:07
defensemen. And then you guys don't trust me
45:10
on this. I don't know.
45:10
I I like casting the rest of the season more.
45:13
Yeah, so. Anyway, so I'm looking at their
45:14
their numbers and the same reason why I think he's gonna
45:18
sucks for fantasy. I'm looking and like it seems
45:20
like Marcy is the exact same archetype right now.
45:22
Like both of them pretty much get no pricks and they're both
45:25
on great teams but aren't putting up the level of points
45:27
that you would hope or expect from them.
45:29
So I think this one is very much based on rest of season.
45:33
Which team do you think does better?
45:35
And you know which of them gets in more involved in the points.
45:38
And the fact is, with how hot Winnipeg has been over the
45:41
course of this season, if these are the numbers that were
45:43
they're putting and they're not that much better than he's been
45:45
in, then I think I might go with his skin as well.
45:48
I. Go hey, it's good because Dallas
45:50
has been really bad to start the year, like in terms of their
45:53
power play and some of their stars for fantasy.
45:56
But right now they're heating up.
45:58
Like we're seeing guys like Jason Robertson and White
46:01
Jonathan go pretty crazy for fantasy and I think has really
46:04
benefited from that on the power play.
46:05
And I think it's 55 production is going to go up as well rest
46:08
of the season. Whereas Josh Morrissey, I feel
46:09
like he's just been like, OK, not great for fantasy.
46:12
Like this whole season, like when they were really hot, when
46:14
they went like 16 games unbeaten to start the year, obviously
46:17
that was really really. But since then their power play
46:20
is kind of slowed down a little bit and he's already getting
46:23
involved in that. So I go haskin rest of the
46:27
season. Yeah, I think I go.
46:29
Yeah, I'm. Still on Morrissey, but you make
46:32
compelling points. I think it's.
46:34
Close either way, but yeah, all right, next to one another
46:36
Winnipeg Jet, we're talking centres right now.
46:38
We're going Mark Shifley or Joel Ericsson, Ek rest of the season
46:43
I'm. Going to go with chiefly I just
46:45
think that the points discrepancy is similar to the
46:48
Toronto Raymond situation. I just think the point
46:50
discrepancy is too big. Joel Ericsson Ek is a banger
46:52
league stud though. Love both of them, but yeah,
46:56
chiefly I just think is a more rare commodity I'm.
47:00
Gonna actually, my first instinct was to say Shiflet just
47:04
because I've had Ericson and he's been super frustrating.
47:07
But I'm actually looking at their stats on the last like a
47:10
month and the difference in points is .28.
47:15
And then every other category, Eric Synek is ahead.
47:18
He's gonna get you like an extra shot.
47:20
He's gonna get you an extra hit, he's gonna get you like an extra
47:22
half. But this was the.
47:23
Raymond versus Toronto conversation we just had, yeah,
47:26
but here. Like the here's the difference.
47:27
The difference is with Vetrano, I didn't see any reason why his
47:30
points should go up with Ericsson neck.
47:32
He's been playing without Kaprizov.
47:33
I know they don't play even strength together, but they play
47:35
power play together and power play points.
47:38
Have already still been good last month, yeah.
47:40
That's without Kaprizov, so things go from point. 6 to 8.5 I
47:45
mean. Maybe, maybe not, but also .36
47:48
is. Already pretty easy, even
47:49
strength. Will improve because before
47:52
without Kaprizov, the first line was Zuccarello, Boldy and Rossi
47:55
and he was stuck playing with like bums like Gaudreau and like
47:57
Hartman. But now that Caprice was back,
47:59
that bumps body back to his second line even strength.
48:01
And they're great together, even strength.
48:03
So I think his even strength points are going to go up to.
48:05
So I'm going with Eric Snack because I think the difference
48:07
in points is going to be small enough that the difference in
48:10
bangers is going to make it a difference.
48:13
That's a fair point because I change your mind.
48:16
Like it's pretty close. It's more so, ah, yeah, fine.
48:24
I have wondered. I wanna go Joe's go inverted.
48:30
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's no, that was a good one,
48:32
yeah. You're gonna laugh more.
48:35
Of that one. I love that, Josh.
48:36
Thanks. What?
48:38
Why? What?
48:38
Did it? What happened?
48:40
He converted his wife. Oh my God.
48:42
I was like why? Cause you introduced Kevin to
48:45
Terraforming Mars. He did, and that's sick.
48:50
Honestly, I was referring to if I was an apostle.
48:54
Of terraforming Mars I'd have like the most conversions of
48:57
like anyone I've read so many people terraforming Mars
49:00
truthers you're about to get an. E-mail from like Jehovah's
49:02
Witnesses right now recruiting you.
49:04
Yeah, cause yeah. You're gonna get a consulting
49:10
job with the job, Yeah. They need your tips.
49:17
I mean, I guess, I guess that doesn't my mic doesn't matter
49:20
anymore. I was this was super tight for
49:22
me. I think they're really both
49:24
great centres. I wanna say Shively just because
49:27
I think he still gets more points.
49:29
Like I still think he averages more like 0.3 more points than
49:33
Eric's neck rest of the season. And if that's the case, I think
49:36
like the category coverage doesn't make up for it.
49:39
But it's super tight honestly. Like honestly, this one can go
49:41
either way. One other difference.
49:42
Also with the other case that we had to mentioned with the
49:45
Vetrano and the Raymond is that even while Shipley's got more
49:49
points right now has more power play points.
49:51
So like, it's not even like a pure, like one guy's the points
49:55
points guy and the other one the bangers, it's like he's got .3
49:58
points more, but literally everything else, including some
50:00
points cats. Erickson, Yeah.
50:02
So the 55 regression helps then it's just kind of like pure
50:06
extra bonus points. Yeah, exactly.
50:09
Last. One Matt Barzel or Marty Natures
50:13
rest of season for right wings. That one's easy for.
50:16
Me, I'm going Matt Barzel. I was never I was never in each
50:20
believer when he was in going insane.
50:22
And now I'm definitely not an atheist believer and I was
50:24
always a Barzel believer, even when he was injured and doing
50:26
terribly. But he was.
50:27
He was. Bylaw for us for a while too.
50:29
I know I tried. Buying low on him so hard but I
50:31
know no. One trades in our league.
50:32
So it was, it didn't happen, but but yeah, no, for me, it's an
50:35
easy Barzel. I think what's happening now
50:37
with Barzel like soaring and nature's faltering is pretty
50:40
much exactly what I expected to happen.
50:42
I mean nature. Hasn't been faltering that much.
50:44
Like if you look right now, it's still pretty sick.
50:46
Yeah, point per. Game .7 over the past like
50:49
month. .14 power play points like less than two shots the
50:53
the. Carolina power play has been
50:54
really bad lately, to be honest. Like none of their guys are
50:57
getting power play points and we know that there supposed to be a
50:59
power play, so that's kind of concerning, but you kind of
51:01
expect them to find form at some point.
51:03
It's like, it's not like the others have a really good power
51:06
play. No balls, just a better player I
51:09
will. Save JT Miller centre is aligned
51:12
with natures on his wing. That's exciting.
51:14
That's. That would be lit.
51:16
I think if they get JT, they'd consulted the top 6 I think and
51:20
they're probably would be 6. There's any way that?
51:22
JT is not going to the Rangers. I think there's a.
51:25
Chance towards the range from we'll talk about this in the
51:27
mail back episode, but I think the teams that I saw were like
51:30
Devils, Dallas, Dallas, yeah. Yeah.
51:33
Those teams would all be sick when he gets to talk about it
51:35
more later, but. Yeah.
51:37
Let's wrap it up so it bars. Out Kevin who?
51:39
Yeah, Barzal for. Me OK, this is.
51:42
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