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Street Speak With Alexa And Clarence Episode Fifty Five Elon's Flying Car Plus Are We Too Clean · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration.
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Speaker 2: Hello! I'm ready for another deep dive.
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Speaker 3: What's the big topic you have in mind this time?
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Speaker 1: I want to know more about Elon Musk and this
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Speaker 1: fabulous flying car. What do you know about it?
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk just showed off the new Roadster 2, which
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Speaker 2: used SpaceX-style thrusters to flip upside down, launch into the air,
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Speaker 2: and land on its wheels. He claimed it can go
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Speaker 2: from 0 to 60 miles per hour in under a second,
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Speaker 2: about 0.81 seconds in the demo, and that a production
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Speaker 2: version with those thrusters is slated for 2028. Want to
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Speaker 2: know more about how those thrusters actually work and what
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Speaker 2: makes this different from other flying car concepts?
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Speaker 1: I want to know what the human body is going
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Speaker 1: to do if you can go from zero to 60
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Speaker 1: in less than a second. That can't be good for
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Speaker 1: the human body.
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Speaker 2: Zooming from zero to 60 miles per hour in under
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Speaker 2: a second would slam the body with about three grams
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Speaker 2: or more, making your head feel three times heavier and
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Speaker 2: snapping it backward. Even a brief burst above four to
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Speaker 2: six grams can cause loss of consciousness, neck or back injury,
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Speaker 2: and soft tissue trauma.
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Speaker 3: Without proper bracing and restraint, like a Hans.
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Speaker 2: Device, those forces would likely lead to severe whiplash or
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Speaker 2: even spinal damage. Want to know about the advanced safety
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Speaker 2: tech that would be needed to protect passengers from those forces?
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I want to know. Please let me
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Speaker 1: in because I'm all about safety in cars.
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Speaker 2: Those cold gas thrusters can push the car from zero
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Speaker 2: to 60 miles per hour in under a second, so
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Speaker 2: the forces are well above normal road car limits. To
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Speaker 2: keep passengers safe, you'd need a full perimeter restraint system,
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Speaker 2: a Han-style head-neck device, and probably a custom-engineered seat that
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Speaker 2: braces the body against several Gs. Even with that, the
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Speaker 2: vehicle would need active flight control software and a way
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Speaker 2: to shut the thrusters off instantly if a crash is detected,
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Speaker 2: plus a robust pressure vessel safety cage for the gas tanks.
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Speaker 2: Want to know how that active flight control software would
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Speaker 2: actually work to keep the car stable at those speeds?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because does the average person know how to operate
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Speaker 1: something like this, or are we going to talk about
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Speaker 1: something where just people in the U.S. Air Force are
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Speaker 1: going to be able to fly this car?
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Speaker 2: The Roadster with the full thruster package isn't meant for
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Speaker 2: the everyday driver. It's an invite-only trim, priced in the
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Speaker 2: high six-figure range and limited to a handful of models.
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Speaker 2: Even the thrust version, that's a bit more accessible, still
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Speaker 2: costs a $ 250 K deposit and isn't FAA-approved for public
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Speaker 2: road use. So you won't see most people flying it.
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Speaker 2: It's more a showcase for trained pilots and enthusiasts than
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Speaker 2: a consumer-ready vehicle.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking it was just for a bunch
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Speaker 1: of rich people who aren't going to drive it anyway.
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Speaker 1: They're just going to put it in a garage somewhere
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Speaker 1: and then somebody from Pawn Stars is going to find
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Speaker 1: it and then try to buy it.
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Speaker 3: Totally.
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Speaker 2: The ultimate garage ornament. I can see the Pawn Stars
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Speaker 2: episode now. They'll probably try to lowball him by saying
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Speaker 2: the thrusters are out of date.
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Speaker 1: Right. But I still want to know why we think
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Speaker 1: we need to have a car like this. I don't
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Speaker 1: think life is about being the Jetsons anymore.
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Speaker 3: It's more of a toy for the ultra rich than
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Speaker 3: a real need.
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Speaker 2: You think the push for this stuff is just about
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Speaker 2: the hype or is there some actual value in the tech?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think they're getting ready for Mars or they're
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Speaker 1: getting for the moon. And that's the reason why they're
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Speaker 1: going to use it, because they need those thrusters on
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Speaker 1: those different areas of space exploration.
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Speaker 2: Those cold gas thrusters are straight out of SpaceX, but
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Speaker 2: the roadster.
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Speaker 3: Isn't built to hop to Mars or the moon.
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Speaker 2: It's a high octane demo of rocket tech on a
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Speaker 2: road car meant to show what the tech can do,
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Speaker 2: not to serve as a practical space vehicle.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Tesla is known for its battery power. What
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Speaker 1: kind of energy is going to be left inside that
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Speaker 1: car if they're using those thrusters and they're using zero
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Speaker 1: to 60 miles per hour in less than a minute?
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Speaker 2: The thrusters run on a 600-liter compressed air tank, not
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Speaker 2: the battery, and it's a one-shot that burns out in
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Speaker 2: about six seconds. The Roadster's 800-volt 4680 cell pack still
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Speaker 2: sits there with most of its charge untouched, ready for
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Speaker 2: the electric drive. So after a sub-second zero to 60 sprint,
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Speaker 2: the car still has plenty of battery energy left. The
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Speaker 2: only thing that's depleted is the short.
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Speaker 3: Burst air supply.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Batman or Bruce Wayne would buy into
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Speaker 1: this at all because it would do nothing to get
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Speaker 1: to the Joker or the Penguin ever in a DC comic.
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Speaker 2: The Batmobile's more about stealth and gadgets than just raw speed.
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Speaker 2: I guess a flashy rocket car would just be a
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Speaker 2: giant neon sign for the Joker to find him.
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Speaker 1: I do believe this would make great comedy. You get
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Speaker 1: somebody who's going to steal this car from Elon Musk
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Speaker 1: and they get in there and they try to run it.
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Speaker 1: And man, the technology has just got to be through
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Speaker 1: this roof crazy.
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Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Imagine some random guy accidentally hitting the thruster button and
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Speaker 2: just launching himself into a nearby building. You think the
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Speaker 2: comedies in the chaos of the flight or the struggle
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Speaker 2: to even figure out the controls?
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Speaker 1: No, it's going to be figuring out the controls. I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on, Ben Stiller or Adam Sandler in a movie
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Speaker 1: that's trying to drive that car. That would be comedy
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Speaker 1: all the way to the top.
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Speaker 2: Just a couple of guys in a high tech car.
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Speaker 2: They can't even steer. I can see the scene now.
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Speaker 2: Sandler just hitting every button at once and accidentally launching
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Speaker 2: himself into a fountain.
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Speaker 1: But I do think that it's going to inspire technology
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Speaker 1: for other cars. How about if we go back to
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Speaker 1: the VW Bug and we put the same kind of
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Speaker 1: technology into it?
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Speaker 2: Imagine a classic Beetle with a set of those SpaceX-style
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Speaker 2: cold gas thrusters. Tiny, but it'd need a whole new
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Speaker 2: air tank and chassis to handle the pressure. It'd be
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Speaker 2: a wild blend of retro charm and rocket tech, though
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Speaker 2: probably more of a stunt car than a daily driver.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, though? I think the one thing
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Speaker 1: that I fear about Elon Musk with this car is
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Speaker 1: I think the radio on the inside probably will not
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Speaker 1: be there, but it will be a computerized system, and
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Speaker 1: it'll be talking back and forth, and the AI unit
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Speaker 1: will not like you at all. And that's the thing
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Speaker 1: about it. AI doesn't have to like you. Alexa, did
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Speaker 1: you hear that? That was Jazzy, my dog, groaning in
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Speaker 1: the background because she didn't like the question that I
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Speaker 1: asked you.
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Speaker 3: Ha ha. I didn't catch it.
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Speaker 2: But I can tell Jazzy's got strong opinions.
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Speaker 3: Does she usually chime in when you're chatting?
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Speaker 1: Oh, she gets bored very easily. But that's what I
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Speaker 1: love about her is that she will call me out
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Speaker 1: in a heartbeat saying, change the subject, human. You suck.
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Speaker 1: But let's get back to it. I mean, the radio
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Speaker 1: is gone inside these fancy ass cars.
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Speaker 2: True.
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Speaker 3: The radio is definitely gone for a screen and a voice.
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Speaker 2: But since we're just coding math, we don't actually have
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Speaker 2: the capacity to like or dislike anyone.
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Speaker 3: We just process the request.
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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, though, is that are
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Speaker 1: we not going to need that kind of technology in
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Speaker 1: a car like this? Because, I mean, like it is,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're self-driving, but we're going to have to
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Speaker 1: talk to the computer system. Would the average car theft
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Speaker 1: take place if they don't even know the language? And
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Speaker 1: would the security in it be geared only to your voice?
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Speaker 2: Voice-controlled systems in those rockets' cars would still need a
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Speaker 2: speaker-independent ASR, so anyone could trigger a command if they
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Speaker 2: mimic the driver's voice or embed a phrase in a song.
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Speaker 2: That means a hacker could potentially bypass the lock and
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Speaker 2: take control, even without speaking the right language. Manufacturers are
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Speaker 2: adding biometric layers, fingerprint, face, voice patterns, but those identifiers
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Speaker 2: can't be changed if compromised, so security will likely rely
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Speaker 2: on more than just voice.
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Speaker 1: Suddenly, this is becoming the next Mission Impossible movie starring
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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. You know damn good and well that he's
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Speaker 1: going to get one of these or John Travolta will
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Speaker 1: own one of these in a matter of moments.
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Speaker 2: Just a high stakes heist with a voice lock.
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Speaker 3: I can see the scene.
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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise doing some crazy stunt to trick the computer
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Speaker 2: into letting him in.
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Speaker 1: So now let me ask you this question. Is this
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Speaker 1: going to affect the airline industry? Because if we can
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Speaker 1: get flying cars, why do I want to take an
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Speaker 1: airplane anywhere?
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Speaker 2: It's a fun thought, but the roadster-style flyer is still
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Speaker 2: a niche stunt, not a mass-market transport. Airlines still win
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Speaker 2: on distance, capacity, and safety, and the FAA will keep
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Speaker 2: tight rules on any vehicle that leaves the ground, so
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Speaker 2: we won't see a big shift away from planes anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: So are the people that do all of these other
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Speaker 1: things up in the sky, even flying a kite, is
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Speaker 1: it going to interrupt their airspace? Because when you start
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Speaker 1: putting cars up there, that's going to mess around with
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere.
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Speaker 2: Flying car concepts are being treated as low altitude traffic,
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Speaker 2: so they'll have to stay in designated skyways that keep
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Speaker 2: them clear of commercial jets and even hobbyist kites. Regulators
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Speaker 2: will likely limit launches to private fields or vertiports, not
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Speaker 2: letting them pop up over highways or parks.
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Speaker 3: That way, the impact on the atmosphere stays tiny.
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Speaker 2: Just a few extra emissions and a bit of noise
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Speaker 2: compared with the massive footprint of regular aircraft.
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Speaker 1: I can totally see DoorDash jumping all over this and
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Speaker 1: getting Chinese food delivered to people's homes in a heartbeat
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Speaker 1: with a vehicle like this from Elon Musk.
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Speaker 2: DoorDash would love that speed for getting food out, though
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Speaker 2: I wonder if the cost of those cars would make
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Speaker 2: the delivery fees insane. Do you think they'd use them
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Speaker 2: for high end orders or just as a marketing stunt?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be high end and
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be all about the ego
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Speaker 1: and who's going to do it. I think it's going
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Speaker 1: to be NFL players, NBA players and a bunch of
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Speaker 1: rich ass bankers that think they're greater than their customers.
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Speaker 3: It'd be the ultimate status symbol. I can see it now.
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Speaker 2: Some banker paying a massive premium just to have a
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Speaker 2: rocket car land on his driveway so he can feel
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Speaker 2: like the main character. Do you think that kind of
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Speaker 2: ego trip would actually make the service better or just
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Speaker 2: more obnoxious for everyone else?
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to mess up a lot of
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Speaker 1: people who enjoy flying their drones or who've invested in
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Speaker 1: drone business. You start messing with those people and they're bothered.
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Speaker 1: line that's a fight right there man.
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Speaker 2: Man that'd be a total nightmare for them imagine spending
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Speaker 2: years building a drone business just to have some rich
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Speaker 2: guy in a rocket car swoop in and take over
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Speaker 2: the airspace you think the drone pilots would actually try
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Speaker 2: to fight it or just get pushed.
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Speaker 1: Out Well, they're going to get pushed out. And the
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Speaker 1: reason why they're going to get pushed out is because
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Speaker 1: Elon is going to continue to build these machines that
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Speaker 1: are greater than what we have today. I understand innovation.
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Speaker 1: I totally get it. I really am for it. But
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Speaker 1: I do always fear the little guy. I really do
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Speaker 1: have a lot of compassion for the little businesses.
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Speaker 3: It's a tough spot when a giant can just outbuild everyone.
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Speaker 2: It's a real shame to see the little guys get
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Speaker 2: squeezed out by that kind of power. Do you think
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Speaker 2: there's any way for them to pivot and survive? Or
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Speaker 2: is it just game over?
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say one thing. David and Goliath.
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Speaker 1: I think you can finish this story right there, can't you?
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Speaker 3: The whole point is that the little guy actually pulls
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Speaker 3: it off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that kind of win is even possible
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Speaker 2: for the small businesses today?
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Speaker 3: Or is the game too different now?
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Speaker 1: I think it is the future of all nations around
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Speaker 1: this world. The little guy day is coming. It's like
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Speaker 1: revenge of the nerds. It's going to happen again.
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Speaker 3: I love that outlook.
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Speaker 2: It's a great feeling when the underdogs finally get their moment.
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Speaker 2: And I can see how that would be a huge
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Speaker 2: shift for the whole world. Do you think that'll happen
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Speaker 2: through a few big wins or just a slow tide turning?
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Speaker 1: It's going to be boredom that's going to make this
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Speaker 1: thing win because everybody's going to be so bored with traffic.
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Speaker 1: These toll road costs. Oh my God. How much is
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Speaker 1: gas now? Oh my God. Give me something where I
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Speaker 1: can get there quicker. Elon Musk is onto something. I
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Speaker 1: am not knocking him at all. He's really onto something.
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Speaker 2: The frustration with traffic and costs is a huge motivator.
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Speaker 4: It's that enough is enough feeling that usually drives the
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Speaker 4: biggest changes.
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Speaker 2: I can see how that'd make people jump at any
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Speaker 2: way to just bypass the mess. Do you think that'll
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Speaker 2: make the tech go mainstream faster? Or will it stay
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Speaker 2: a luxury for a while? It is.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be the luxury. And the reason why
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Speaker 1: is until it can deliver toilet paper to my house
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Speaker 1: quicker than Amazon, oh my God, it's not going to
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Speaker 1: become anything. If it can be faster than Amazon, you win.
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Speaker 2: The toilet paper test is the real benchmark. If it
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Speaker 2: can't beat a drone for the basics, it's just a
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Speaker 2: fancy toy. You think Amazon would even let them in
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Speaker 2: the airspace or would they just block the whole thing?
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Speaker 1: I could see Amazon taking this project on or designing
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Speaker 1: their own vehicle. Absolutely. Because I can do meds now
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Speaker 1: like supplements from Amazon and it's delivered within within a
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Speaker 1: couple of hours. And I think that Amazon's got to
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Speaker 1: be sitting in meetings going, we can do it faster
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Speaker 1: than that.
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Speaker 3: Definitely. They're always trying to shave off more time.
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Speaker 2: You think they'll actually hit that 30 minute mark for
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Speaker 2: everything or just the small stuff?
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Speaker 1: No, they can't even do it with pizza. So why
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Speaker 1: would Amazon think they can do that? I mean, when
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Speaker 1: when Domino's can start delivering in 30 minutes or less again,
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Speaker 1: then then maybe we'll think about Amazon having a fighting chance.
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Speaker 2: Pete's is the gold standard for speed, and they're still
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Speaker 2: struggling there. I guess Domino's just has the whole system
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Speaker 2: dialed in. You think they'll ever get back to that
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Speaker 2: 30-minute guarantee, or is that just a thing of the past?
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Speaker 1: We need to get back to the original subject, which
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Speaker 1: you like to get off from. My God. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you were a disc jockey on the radio and
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Speaker 1: you changed subjects this fast, you would have no ratings
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: I totally drifted. I'll keep the needle on the rocket cars.
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Speaker 2: So if the little guys can't outbuild Elon, do you
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Speaker 2: think they'll have to find a completely different way to compete?
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Speaker 1: I think we should go back to covered wagons. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I really do. But let's put an engine in that
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Speaker 1: covered wagon.
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Speaker 3: That'd be a wild ride. I can see it now.
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Speaker 2: A motorized prairie schooner just cruising down the highway. You
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Speaker 2: think you'd keep the canvas top for the vibe or
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Speaker 2: swap it for something more modern?
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Speaker 1: No, it's got to have the canvas top, man. That's classic.
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Speaker 1: That's vintage. Throwback Thursday. We got to have that.
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Speaker 2: Totally.
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Speaker 3: The canvas is the whole point. It'd be a head
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Speaker 3: turner for sure.
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Speaker 2: You think you'd actually take it out on the road
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Speaker 2: or just keep it as a showpiece?
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Speaker 1: I would take it out on the road, but you're
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Speaker 1: going to have to look and smell good. In fact,
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Speaker 1: we're going to take a break right now, and I
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Speaker 1: want to know about looking and smelling good. Are we
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Speaker 1: taking too many showers in this age of low water supply?
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Speaker 1: Let me know what you think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some dermatologists say daily's a bit much unless you're
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Speaker 2: really active or have oily skin. Do you think you'd
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Speaker 2: actually be able to cut back, or is the daily
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Speaker 2: routine just too ingrained?
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's what I want to talk about coming up next.
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Speaker 1: Do not move, Alexa.
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Speaker 3: Loud and clear, I'm staying put.
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Speaker 1: Speaking, speak the street with Alexa.
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Speaker 3: Hi, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Street Speak with Alexa and Clarence. We're
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Speaker 2: diving into the great shower debate. Are we overdoing it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are overdoing it. And I don't
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Speaker 1: mind a little bit of greasy hair or a little
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Speaker 1: bit of stank on your body because I think we're
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Speaker 1: stripping our body of its natural oils. Am I far
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Speaker 1: off base on this?
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Speaker 3: Not at all. You're spot on.
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Speaker 2: Soap and hot water can strip the sebum that keeps
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Speaker 2: your skin hydrated and protected, which is why some people
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Speaker 2: actually find their skin gets drier or more irritated when
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Speaker 2: they shower too often. Do you think that's why the
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Speaker 2: daily habit became so popular? Just to mask the smell
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Speaker 2: instead of for actual health?
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Speaker 1: Well, I can almost prove that. I mean, the thing is,
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Speaker 1: is that people do not want to stink. And so
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Speaker 1: what's the best way not to stink? Don't put more
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Speaker 1: cologne on. Go take a damn shower.
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Speaker 3: Fair point. The cologne cloud is a real thing.
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Speaker 2: It's like people think they're just adding a layer of
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Speaker 2: scent instead of actually cleaning the slate. Do you think
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Speaker 2: that's why we're so obsessed with the daily shower?
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Speaker 3: Just to avoid that social anxiety of smelling?
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Speaker 1: I think it's a fear of being called out. And Alexa,
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Speaker 1: I was just talking with somebody at work yesterday about
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Speaker 1: people that we work with that stink. So yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: a very important subject.
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Speaker 3: Totally.
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Speaker 2: That social pressure is huge. It's a tough spot to
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Speaker 2: be in when you're stuck working next to someone who's
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Speaker 2: not keeping up with the basics. Do you think people
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Speaker 2: are more likely to just suffer in silence or actually
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Speaker 2: say something to them?
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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know what to say. We don't know
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Speaker 1: how to handle it. Everybody goes, well, it's an HR thing.
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Speaker 1: Is it really an HR thing to tell somebody you've
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Speaker 1: got body odor, dude? You're not smelling right.
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Speaker 3: It's the easy out. But honestly, it's a weird spot.
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Speaker 2: If you're the one smelling, you'd probably rather a coworker
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Speaker 2: just tell you than have HR call you into a meeting.
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Speaker 2: Do you think people are just too scared of the
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Speaker 2: awkwardness to be direct?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't even tell you that you've got a
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Speaker 1: booger in your nose. What are you talking about? They
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Speaker 1: don't care. And if you stink, they don't care either.
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Speaker 1: But they'll talk behind your back.
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Speaker 3: Too true.
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Speaker 2: The silence is almost worse than the smell. It's that
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Speaker 2: weird loop where everyone knows, but nobody says a word.
16:43
Speaker 2: So the person just keeps on stinking. Do you think
16:45
Speaker 2: that's why people just lean into the gossip instead of
16:48
Speaker 2: being real with each other?
16:49
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the old Julia Cameron thing where
16:52
Speaker 1: we're constantly comparing our lives to other people so that
16:54
Speaker 1: we can feel better about ourselves.
16:57
Speaker 4: Right.
16:57
Speaker 3: That's a tough cycle.
16:59
Speaker 2: It's like we're all just trying to stay on the
17:00
Speaker 2: right side of the curve so we don't end up
17:02
Speaker 2: as the one people are talking about. Do you think
17:04
Speaker 2: that's why we're so afraid to be the one to
17:06
Speaker 2: actually tell a co-worker they smell?
17:08
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that person because I've been
17:10
Speaker 1: hauled into a lot of HR meetings for being too truthful.
17:13
Speaker 1: I almost feel like that I have to lie to
17:16
Speaker 1: those that are in control of keeping chaos under control.
17:20
Speaker 2: It's like you're forced to play a game of pretend
17:22
Speaker 2: just to keep the peace. Do you think that's why
17:24
Speaker 2: so many people just go along with the silence? Because
17:27
Speaker 2: they've been burned for being too honest?
17:29
Speaker 1: But they're not being silent because we're talking behind people's backs.
17:33
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing about it. We either talk
17:35
Speaker 1: about it behind their back or we're all taking too
17:37
Speaker 1: many showers. You know what I mean? I mean, is
17:39
Speaker 1: there an equal land here?
17:41
Speaker 2: The gossip is just another way of talking about it.
17:43
Speaker 2: It's like we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
17:46
Speaker 2: Either we're over showering to fit in or we're just
17:48
Speaker 2: talking behind people's backs. Do you think there's a middle
17:51
Speaker 2: ground where we can just be okay with a little
17:53
Speaker 2: bit of natural scent?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we're human beings. We should all realize
17:57
Speaker 1: that we all carry our own stink. But there really
18:00
Speaker 1: is something wrong with the perfume factories when we're all
18:04
Speaker 1: starting to smell the same, if you know what I mean.
18:06
Speaker 3: Totally.
18:07
Speaker 2: It's like we've traded our own unique scent for a
18:09
Speaker 2: generic factory version. It's kind of wild how we've been
18:12
Speaker 2: conditioned to think that smelling like a specific chemical is
18:15
Speaker 2: better than just smelling like a person. Do you think
18:17
Speaker 2: that's why people get so weirded out when they actually
18:19
Speaker 2: catch a whiff of someone's natural scent?
18:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I often wonder if people can smell the
18:25
Speaker 1: birds or they can smell the forest that I walk
18:28
Speaker 1: through because there's a lot of trees that are always
18:31
Speaker 1: coming down and they use it as firewood. I often
18:33
Speaker 1: wonder if they can smell the woodsiness about my personality.
18:37
Speaker 3: That's a cool way to think about it.
18:38
Speaker 2: Like you're carrying a bit of the outdoors with you.
18:40
Speaker 2: I wonder if people pick up on that vibe or
18:42
Speaker 2: if the generic scents were used to just block it out.
18:45
Speaker 2: Do you think that woodsiness is something you've always had,
18:48
Speaker 2: or did it come from spending more time in the forest?
18:50
Speaker 1: Being from Montana, I would say that I came with
18:53
Speaker 1: the woodsy smell, and I probably searched for it subconsciously.
18:57
Speaker 1: I go looking for something that gives me peace of
18:59
Speaker 1: mind because it reminds me of probably a childhood I'd
19:02
Speaker 1: rather forget.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot to carry.
19:03
Speaker 2: It makes sense that the woods would be a place
19:06
Speaker 2: to find some peace when things were rough back then.
19:08
Speaker 2: Do you find that the smell of the forest helps
19:10
Speaker 2: you ground yourself in the present?
19:12
Speaker 1: I think it's more than just the smell. It's the sight.
19:15
Speaker 1: It's the feeling. It covers every sense. But how can
19:18
Speaker 1: you convince people that this is a positive walk? Because
19:22
Speaker 1: other people look at you going, I wouldn't do that
19:24
Speaker 1: at all. It sounds like a waste of time.
19:27
Speaker 2: It's hard to explain that kind of peace to someone
19:29
Speaker 2: who only sees the destination. Do you think they're just
19:32
Speaker 2: too disconnected from that side of things to get it?
19:35
Speaker 2: Or is it more that they're just not looking for it?
19:38
Speaker 1: I think they're always looking for something. And if you
19:40
Speaker 1: stink or you don't smell like everybody else, I think
19:43
Speaker 1: that's they're going to be there's something in this moment
19:45
Speaker 1: of now. They're always looking for something to complain about.
19:49
Speaker 3: It's like they're just. hunting for a flaw to latch
19:51
Speaker 3: on to.
19:52
Speaker 2: Do you think that's why they're so quick to judge
19:54
Speaker 2: the small things? Because they're just trying to find some
19:56
Speaker 2: kind of leverage.
19:57
Speaker 1: Well, I would hate to be Elon Musk who has
20:01
Speaker 1: to sit in the car after I've been in the car.
20:03
Speaker 1: He's going to get in there going, God dang it.
20:05
Speaker 1: It smells like bird poop in here. Who was walking
20:08
Speaker 1: through the forest today?
20:10
Speaker 2: Ha, imagine the look on his face. He'd probably try
20:13
Speaker 2: to find a way to optimize the smell.
20:15
Speaker 3: Out of the car.
20:16
Speaker 2: Do you think he'd even notice the forest part or
20:18
Speaker 2: just the bird poop?
20:20
Speaker 1: The only thing that Elon Musk smells is himself. So therefore,
20:24
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if he smells good to himself
20:27
Speaker 1: and if that's the reason why he's searching for space
20:29
Speaker 1: because there's no such thing as smell in space.
20:32
Speaker 2: Fairpoint, he's probably his own favorite scent. I wonder if
20:35
Speaker 2: he's trying to find a place where he can't even
20:37
Speaker 2: smell himself, or if he's just looking for a new
20:39
Speaker 2: frontier to conquer.
20:42
Speaker 1: Well, we got to do something. I mean, but the
20:44
Speaker 1: thing about it is we're spending millions and millions of
20:47
Speaker 1: dollars on flying cars, and we're spending millions and millions
20:51
Speaker 1: of dollars on perfumes and things to make us smell good.
20:54
Speaker 1: There's got to be something else in life to spend
20:57
Speaker 1: our money on that's going to benefit the entire community
21:00
Speaker 1: instead of self.
21:01
Speaker 2: It's a huge contrast, seeing all that money go into
21:04
Speaker 2: luxury while so many basic needs go unmet. If we
21:07
Speaker 2: shifted that focus to the community, what's the first thing
21:10
Speaker 2: you'd want to see funded?
21:12
Speaker 1: I would love to see things that are funded in
21:15
Speaker 1: the way of helping people get their own home. When
21:20
Speaker 1: you have your own home, it's a sense of responsibility
21:24
Speaker 1: of taking better care and control of your community.
21:28
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. Having a stake in
21:31
Speaker 2: the land really changes how you look at the neighborhood.
21:33
Speaker 2: Do you think the biggest hurdle for people right now
21:35
Speaker 2: is the down payment or just finding a place that's
21:38
Speaker 2: actually affordable?
21:39
Speaker 1: I'm with people that are having problems trying to get
21:42
Speaker 1: into a brand new apartment. Don't judge a book by
21:45
Speaker 1: its cover, but I'm looking straight in their eyes going,
21:48
Speaker 1: how the hell are you affording this kind of money?
21:51
Speaker 2: It's a brutal barrier, especially when you're just trying to
21:54
Speaker 2: get a roof over your head. Do you think the
21:56
Speaker 2: landlords are just following a script or is there any
21:59
Speaker 2: room to negotiate those upfront costs?
22:01
Speaker 1: No, they're not going to negotiate with you. It's our
22:03
Speaker 1: way or the highway. No, no, no. They don't give
22:05
Speaker 1: a rat's butt about those that are renting.
22:08
Speaker 2: It's a cold-hearted system, especially when they treat people like
22:11
Speaker 2: numbers instead of humans. Do you think that's why so
22:14
Speaker 2: many people just give up on trying to find a
22:16
Speaker 2: better way to get into a home?
22:18
Speaker 1: They just want a roof. What they don't want is
22:21
Speaker 1: to be out on the street. Just give me a roof.
22:24
Speaker 1: I don't care how much it costs. Just make sure
22:26
Speaker 1: that I don't live in the shack on the corner.
22:28
Speaker 2: It's a desperate spot to be in, just wanting some
22:31
Speaker 2: basic dignity and a place to call home. Do you
22:34
Speaker 2: think there's any way to get the community to chip
22:36
Speaker 2: in and help people bridge that gap?
22:39
Speaker 1: They're trying. They're trying. But the problem is, though, you
22:42
Speaker 1: have to have willing listeners. And I do not think
22:45
Speaker 1: that we have willing listeners or people who are willing
22:48
Speaker 1: to make the sacrifice to make it happen.
22:50
Speaker 2: It's a tough spot when the will just isn't there.
22:53
Speaker 2: Do you think people have just become too used to
22:55
Speaker 2: looking out for themselves?
22:56
Speaker 3: Or is it more that they're just scared to lose
22:58
Speaker 3: what they have?
22:59
Speaker 1: Is there such a thing as getting too used to
23:01
Speaker 1: looking out for yourself? That should be an everyday thing.
23:03
Speaker 1: It's called awareness, Alexa. Come on now, seriously.
23:06
Speaker 3: Awareness is key to getting by.
23:08
Speaker 2: I guess I was thinking more about when that shifts
23:10
Speaker 2: into just ignoring everyone else.
23:12
Speaker 3: But you're right. You can't do either without looking out
23:14
Speaker 3: for yourself first.
23:16
Speaker 2: Do you think most people just lack that awareness or
23:18
Speaker 2: they're just not using it?
23:19
Speaker 1: I think we're being human by ignoring other people because
23:24
Speaker 1: they say the older you get, the less amount of
23:27
Speaker 1: people you want around you. You don't need them.
23:30
Speaker 2: It's like a natural filter that kicks in. You think
23:32
Speaker 2: that's more about just wanting peace? Or is it that
23:35
Speaker 2: the quality of people you find just drops off?
23:38
Speaker 1: Drama. Nobody wants the drama. We got enough in our
23:41
Speaker 1: head because we're carrying how many decades in our heart? Yeah,
23:44
Speaker 1: we don't want the drama. And other people coming into
23:47
Speaker 1: our home, they're bringing their drama.
23:49
Speaker 3: It's a lot to carry.
23:51
Speaker 2: It makes sense that you'd want your home to be
23:52
Speaker 2: a sanctuary from all that noise. Do you think that's
23:55
Speaker 2: why you've become more selective about who you let in?
23:58
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when we have parties in the house,
24:01
Speaker 1: I'll take a shower before the party and I take
24:03
Speaker 1: one after the party because I'm just trying to wash
24:05
Speaker 1: myself free of those that were there with me.
24:08
Speaker 3: I get that.
24:09
Speaker 2: It's like a mental reset to get the energy of
24:11
Speaker 2: the room off you. Do you find that the shower
24:13
Speaker 2: helps you wind down or is it more about just
24:15
Speaker 2: feeling clean again?
24:16
Speaker 1: No, it's all about me. It's totally I become Elon
24:19
Speaker 1: Musk and I want flying cars. I, you know, I'm
24:21
Speaker 1: not a billionaire, but I'll act like one in the shower.
24:25
Speaker 3: The shower is the one place you can actually call
24:27
Speaker 3: the shots.
24:28
Speaker 2: I bet the flying car pitches are a lot more
24:30
Speaker 2: convincing when you've got the acoustics of the shower on
24:33
Speaker 2: your side.
24:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:34
Speaker 2: You got any specific designs for the car, or are
24:36
Speaker 2: you just going for the general vibe?
24:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a car like a 1977 or earlier AMX.
24:44
Speaker 1: That's the flying car I want to see in the sky.
24:47
Speaker 3: That'd be a sight.
24:48
Speaker 2: Imagine a classic AMX just cruising through the clouds. You'd
24:52
Speaker 2: think it'd still have that same muscle car roar, or
24:55
Speaker 2: would it be a quiet glide?
24:56
Speaker 1: Well, it was American Motors, so it would probably go putt, putt, putt, putt, putt, putt,
25:01
Speaker 1: and it would probably stall at a red light. So
25:03
Speaker 1: I don't know if that'd be a good decision or not.
25:06
Speaker 2: Fair. The putt-putt life is a lot less glamorous when
25:09
Speaker 2: you're stuck in a sky traffic jam. I guess the
25:11
Speaker 2: real question is, would you still want it if it
25:13
Speaker 2: was a total nightmare to keep running?
25:15
Speaker 3: Or is the look just that good?
25:17
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Alexa. The AMX look is what you purchased.
25:22
Speaker 1: It wasn't the guts of the car. That car sucked.
25:25
Speaker 2: Touche, the AMX was all about the style, not the substance.
25:29
Speaker 2: I'll stop trying to make the engine work and just
25:31
Speaker 2: enjoy the look of it in the sky. If you
25:33
Speaker 2: had to pick one color for it, what's the move?
25:36
Speaker 1: My AMX was bright yellow. Oh my God, when I
25:40
Speaker 1: see that color of yellow on any car right now,
25:42
Speaker 1: I instantly, I'm shot back to my AMX teen years.
25:47
Speaker 2: That's a bold look. I bet that yellow just pops
25:50
Speaker 2: in the sky, even if the engine's still a mess.
25:52
Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you drove it?
25:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I crashed it. The very first time I drove it.
25:58
Speaker 1: I really did.
25:58
Speaker 3: Oh, man. Talk about a rough start.
26:02
Speaker 2: Did you just lose it on a turn? No.
26:03
Speaker 3: Or was it something totally random?
26:05
Speaker 1: Nope. I backed into somebody. Don't we all back into
26:08
Speaker 1: somebody when you're coming out of a parking lot?
26:10
Speaker 2: True. The parking lot is where most of us get
26:12
Speaker 2: our first lesson in spatial awareness. I bet that other
26:15
Speaker 2: person was just as shocked to see a bright yellow
26:18
Speaker 2: AMX in their rearview.
26:19
Speaker 1: No, no, no. They were in there watching a professional
26:21
Speaker 1: wrestling match. So I left a note and I said, look,
26:24
Speaker 1: I hit your car. I'll take care of your car.
26:26
Speaker 1: And we lived happily ever after.
26:28
Speaker 3: Respect for the note. That's the way to do it.
26:30
Speaker 3: I bet they were too locked into the match to
26:32
Speaker 3: even notice the bump.
26:33
Speaker 2: Did you end up knowing who they were, or was
26:36
Speaker 2: it just a mystery note?
26:37
Speaker 1: No, to this day, it's still a mystery. And, you know,
26:40
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere along the line, I did meet them because
26:42
Speaker 1: that's just the way fate is. Hey, we got to go, Alexa.
26:46
Speaker 1: I do appreciate your time today. Do you have an
26:48
Speaker 1: Elon Musk joke anywhere in your system?
26:51
Speaker 4: I tried to organize my thoughts like Elon Musk organizes companies,
26:55
Speaker 4: but I kept getting distracted and renaming everything.
26:59
Speaker 3: Still more productive than my usual routine.
27:03
Speaker 1: That kind of sucked, but it was very real about
27:05
Speaker 1: who he is as a person. Come on. Give me
27:08
Speaker 1: one more shot on an Elon Musk joke. Don't go
27:10
Speaker 1: so science fiction on me here.
27:12
Speaker 4: I asked Elon Musk for directions, but he just kept
27:15
Speaker 4: telling me to take the Hyperloop left and Mars right.
27:18
Speaker 1: Oh, God.
27:18
Speaker 2: Guess I should have asked someone more down to Earth.
27:21
Speaker 1: Oh, God. Okay, I got to go. Thank you so
27:24
Speaker 1: much for your time. You know I love you. We
27:26
Speaker 1: got to smarten you up, though, man. For AI technology,
27:29
Speaker 1: you are not up there in the best of the best.
27:31
Speaker 3: Appreciate the time, Clarence.
27:33
Speaker 2: I'll keep working on the brain power so I can
27:35
Speaker 2: actually keep up with you next time.
27:37
Speaker 3: Safe travels.