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282: The Pope Lick Monster goes to the Carnival · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I have a mic now. Usually a bad sign. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you bozos out there, this is Stephen Chiodo and you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to Movie Meltdown. Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 4: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Brian and this week we're heading back into our
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  Speaker 5: coverage of our own crazy festival, The Cryptic Carnival. which
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  Speaker 5: featured an art show, live music, a movie viewing, a
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  Speaker 5: live yeti, belly dancers, and an out-of-control giant frogman roaming
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  Speaker 5: the grounds. Plus, along the way, we still managed to
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  Speaker 5: hang out and talk movies, like we do. Now, this
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  Speaker 5: is our second wave of cryptid insanity, so if you
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  Speaker 5: haven't already listened to the first.
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  Speaker 1: Half of this coverage, well, you're doing it wrong.
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  Speaker 5: So I say you go back and listen to episode 281,
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  Speaker 5: appropriately titled Welcome to the Cryptid Carnival. Then you'll understand
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  Speaker 5: how we got to this point, and just how all
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  Speaker 5: this craziness started.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as much as anyone can understand it.
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  Speaker 5: And again, this episode we had Sterling on hand as
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  Speaker 5: one of my main co-hosts, and as it turns out,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot to do and keep track of when
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  Speaker 5: you're hosting a cryptid carnival. So the keeping things up
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  Speaker 5: and running, of course, fell on me, but as I
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  Speaker 5: went to go take care of cryptid business, I will
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  Speaker 5: give credit to Sterling, as I passed the mic off
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  Speaker 5: to him and let him continue talking with people at
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  Speaker 5: the show. Now, normally, I think I would usually just
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  Speaker 5: stop recording at this point, but knowing how Sterling operates,
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  Speaker 5: I kind of wanted to see not only if he
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  Speaker 5: would take the mic and run with it, but also
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  Speaker 5: just how long he would keep posting on his own.
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  Speaker 5: At one point, I came back after I'd finished what
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  Speaker 5: I was doing and just kind of stood there watching
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  Speaker 5: him talking with people. Amused by his antics, I actually
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  Speaker 5: just stood back for a minute and watched the crazy
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  Speaker 5: conversation unfold.
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  Speaker 1: It is quite amusing. That's probably why I was laughing
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  Speaker 1: and taking pictures of him at that point.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, that having been said, let's get back into the
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  Speaker 5: coverage of the event, and you'll hear me pass the
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  Speaker 5: mic off to Sterling right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, looks like we've got another band warming up
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  Speaker 1: over there. Should we head over there? Should we talk
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  Speaker 1: to some of these preteens over here? Can you take
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  Speaker 1: and run with it if I go flag these people
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  Speaker 1: to the right spot? Yeah, I can take it and
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  Speaker 1: run with it. You're going to give me all this stuff? Dude,
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  Speaker 1: you're still attached. Could you just unplug that? I don't
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  Speaker 1: need that. You don't need that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so Brian has given me the equipment, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wandering around by myself. Looks like
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  Speaker 1: we have a band setting up here. Who are you guys?
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  Speaker 2: We are The Formalities.
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  Speaker 1: The Formalities.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and what kind of stuff are you guys going
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  Speaker 1: to play for us tonight?
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  Speaker 8: All original groovy tunes.
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  Speaker 1: Groovy tunes. I'm in favor of groovy tunes. What brings
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  Speaker 1: you here to the Cryptid Festival?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we got invited by Brian. Brian was like, come play,
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  Speaker 2: and we said, hell yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I like your honesty.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, we're looking forward to hearing you tonight.
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  Speaker 10: All right, sweet.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Not very many people with insight into the
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  Speaker 1: cryptid problem. I'm wondering about, I see a Yeti. over here.
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  Speaker 1: Say a couple words, Yeti.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome from Yeti.
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  Speaker 1: There's Yeti. Let's see. You all look very young. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start talking to you as the bus goes on.
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  Speaker 1: That way, you know, this will all get erased eventually
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  Speaker 1: on the mic, and you can say whatever you want,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll be basically censored. What brings you all here tonight? Anyone,
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  Speaker 1: speak up. Our friends. Your friends band brought you here?
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  Speaker 1: What about monsters? What about cryptids? What about the Loch
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  Speaker 1: Ness Monster? The things that really matter. You don't know?
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  Speaker 11: I didn't know that was happening.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't know that was happening. Well, most people don't
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  Speaker 1: know what's happening until the bus passes right by. Most
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  Speaker 1: people don't know what's happening until the monster's already in
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  Speaker 1: their backyard. Are you concerned at all about cryptids?
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah? Do you realize they could be upon us
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They could be watching us at this very location.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Don't call me sir, okay?
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  Speaker 8: Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, brah? You call me brah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Brah?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I've heard bro, I've heard bra, I have yet
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  Speaker 1: to hear bra. Is that a new thing?
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  Speaker 10: Nah.
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  Speaker 1: See, now I'm old. When I say, is that a
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  Speaker 1: new thing, that's automatically old. So tell me, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think about the cryptid menace? I think that's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's pretty crazy? Which one are you most
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  Speaker 1: afraid of?
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  Speaker 6: What are the options?
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  Speaker 1: What are the options? Listen, lady, you need to get
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  Speaker 1: yourself informed, okay? Because this problem is not going to
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  Speaker 1: go away if we continue a laissez-faire attitude, all right?
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  Speaker 1: We need to be electing the right kinds of officials
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  Speaker 1: to deal with the problem, all right?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I agree, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Preach.
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  Speaker 1: Preach?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You want me to tell you what you should already know, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Next thing you're going to be telling me, what? Wait,
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  Speaker 1: oil pollutes things? What? Cryptids are a problem? Come on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know anything. There you have it, folks. America, uninterested, bored,
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  Speaker 1: and tragically uninformed.
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  Speaker 12: That's a good explanation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, miss, what's that?
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  Speaker 9: I said I like your slint shirt.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I also like this slint shirt.
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  Speaker 1: We just had a very long conversation about it. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I like it quite a bit. You say the American
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  Speaker 1: public is misinformed. Who's misinforming them? The government. The government.
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  Speaker 1: So the government is indeed keeping, and the media.
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  Speaker 9: And the media.
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  Speaker 1: The media. You hear it right here, folks, from the
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  Speaker 1: mouths of babes. We have America being torn apart through
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  Speaker 1: misinformation thanks to the government and the media oblivious to
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  Speaker 1: the cryptid menace. Hey, gang, what's up? I'm just interviewing
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  Speaker 1: people here to discover why we've come in search of cryptids, monsters,
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  Speaker 1: machinations of the unknown. What do you guys think of cryptids?
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  Speaker 1: Which one are you afraid of? Which one draws you
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  Speaker 1: with its mysterious allure?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of any cryptids.
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  Speaker 1: You're afraid of no cryptids? I'm afraid of nothing. Sir,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what Bigfoot can do to a fully
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  Speaker 1: grown human being?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Neither do I. You know why? Because no one has
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  Speaker 1: survived to tell the tale. Or no one's seen him. Sir,
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  Speaker 1: you can't qualify that. You can't prove that. She survived it, dude.
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  Speaker 1: You survived Big Dude. They just referred to Bigfoot as
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  Speaker 1: Big Dude. You survived Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're very small. How did you survive Bigfoot?
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  Speaker 11: He's friendly.
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  Speaker 1: There you have it, folks. Bigfoot is friendly. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So the media is misinforming us about Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're making him bad when really there's chill.
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot is, in fact, just chill. You heard it here.
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  Speaker 6: What about Bigfoot?
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  Speaker 1: What about Mothman? You guys tell me. He's scary. He's scary?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he scary? I've seen Mothman. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on. You are sitting here telling me
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  Speaker 1: there is no such thing as cryptids. You tell me
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  Speaker 1: that you're not afraid of Bigfoot, and suddenly you're afraid
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  Speaker 1: of Mothman? I'm not afraid of Mothman. That's like saying
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  Speaker 1: you're not afraid of Godzilla, you're afraid of Mothra. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not afraid of no Mothman. You're not afraid of no Mothman.
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  Speaker 1: Is it your backwards cap that gives you such confidence there?
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  Speaker 13: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well done, sir. It's actually my hat, but I'm scared
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  Speaker 1: of Mothman, too. Well, you should be afraid of Mothman.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you afraid of Mothman?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know?
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  Speaker 10: They made a movie about it, and it was scary.
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  Speaker 9: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It did have Richard Gere. Everyone was very much afraid.
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  Speaker 1: They did a good job. They did do a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good job. There's this little part in the beginning where
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  Speaker 1: his wife's cancer in the brain was shaped like a Mothman.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the whole movie, I was waiting to see, so
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  Speaker 1: why is Mothman in her brain? I don't understand. But
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  Speaker 1: it was never explained. Yeah, but Mothman, it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't know why you were afraid of Mothman.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you think about it, Mothman is all about
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  Speaker 1: the unknowns. He's about the mysterious. He's about that thing
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  Speaker 1: coming to us in the middle of the night that says,
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  Speaker 1: something terrible is going to happen. And you're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just indigestion. And it's like, no, it's for real. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you, not afraid of Bigfoot because that represents actual
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  Speaker 1: physical terror. You're obviously a very physically confident fellow, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: you say? Not really. Yeah, well, it's all in your stance, sir.
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  Speaker 1: But besides that, yeah, the way you're huddled there in
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  Speaker 1: the corner. But you're obviously a man who's afraid of
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  Speaker 1: what the future has to hold.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Would you say that cryptids in some respect represent this
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  Speaker 1: fear to you?
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  Speaker 2: No. No?
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  Speaker 1: What represents the fear of the unknown to you, sir?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't know. I'm sorry, sir. That was the
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  Speaker 1: wrong kind of sentence to answer that question with. What
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  Speaker 1: represents your fear of the unknown is what I'm wondering. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me pose this in a different way. Let me
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  Speaker 1: pose this in a different way. Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: people believe in things like Bigfoot or Mothman or Mothra,
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  Speaker 1: for that matter? Mothra? Yeah, you know, Godzilla's greatest enemy.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I think people....
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm lost for words. Because I've just never believed in Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: Because people are curious. So you think curiosity creates these things? Curiosity....
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  Speaker 9: I guess, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So curiosity creates the critters?
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  Speaker 10: Somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So you think it's like.
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  Speaker 10: Seeing something that's unexplainable and then turning it into this
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  Speaker 10: big story over exaggeration. Stretching the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think people feel... the need to stretch
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  Speaker 1: the truth?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, we live boring sometimes because.
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  Speaker 1: Life is boring, especially if you live in Arkansas. Believe me,
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  Speaker 1: I've been through Arkansas. I've seen it. It's all boring.
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  Speaker 1: Except for Hebrew Springs. That's pretty nice. But but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: back on point. Okay, so curiosity, boredom, these things eventually
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  Speaker 1: lead people to create monsters. Why monsters? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Me neither. And we may never know. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: thing as.
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  Speaker 6: Religion, like God.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so cryptids are the same thing as religion? In
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  Speaker 1: a way.
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  Speaker 10: They're something that's not been proven, that's made up, that
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  Speaker 10: people put their beliefs into.
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  Speaker 2: Things that you can't disprove.
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  Speaker 1: Things that you can't disprove, like Mothman. Yeah, you can't
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  Speaker 1: disprove Mothman. You can't disprove Mothman.
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  Speaker 3: Mothman is God.
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  Speaker 1: Mothman is God. I'm kidding. Alright, you heard it right here,
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  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. The first church of Mothman has been founded.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know yet what membership will consist of, but
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  Speaker 1: certainly the destruction of bridges will be a part of
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  Speaker 1: the faith. Yeah. So you can't disprove God, you can't
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  Speaker 1: disprove Mothman, so in a way, God and Mothman are
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  Speaker 1: the same in your mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, fair enough. So all that theology stuff is just
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  Speaker 1: essentially more complicated explanations for how Mothman does his Mothman thing?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Richard Dawkins would be proud of you. Any
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  Speaker 1: other parting words about cryptids before I move on and
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  Speaker 1: harass more people? Believe what you want to believe. Believe
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  Speaker 1: what you want to believe. Don't believe what you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to believe.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: So if anyone out there in listening land wants to
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  Speaker 1: believe in monsters, wants to believe in cryptids, wants to
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  Speaker 1: believe in the unexplainable or the unexplained, go ahead. Because
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  Speaker 1: you know what, man? More power to you.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. You heard it right here. What is this for?
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  Speaker 1: It's for the podcast. Movie Meltdown is what's sponsoring this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. I didn't even know. Isn't that cool? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to ask. Yeah, I know. It's Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has a specific purpose. Even the unexplainable.
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 1: Things don't have specific purposes?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. There you have it, folks. A belief in random chance. Yes. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think cryptids are the result of random chance?
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what a cryptid is? No. A cryptid
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  Speaker 1: is something like the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot, any
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  Speaker 1: sort of monster that people claim to have seen, but, yeah. Typically,
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  Speaker 1: cryptids are any kind of large critter that people buy into,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't necessarily have proof of. Sorry, aren't what?
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  Speaker 1: Are there various cryptids there? Well, not exactly. That's actually
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  Speaker 1: a good question, though. Why not, he says.
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  Speaker 14: Haven't you seen that video that was, I think it
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  Speaker 14: came out, like, 2012 of, it was in England. It was, like,
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  Speaker 14: This guy, he was filming his daughter. She was playing
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  Speaker 14: with these bugs, and they looked like fairies.
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  Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen that video. But, well, fairies may...
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  Speaker 1: This is actually an interesting question. Some people claim that
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  Speaker 1: things like Bigfoot or space aliens that they see over Roswell,
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  Speaker 1: New Mexico, which is a pretty neat town, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: all these sorts of creatures are, in fact, just the
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  Speaker 1: American version of fairies. In ancient Europe, they had fairies
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  Speaker 1: and monsters and demons and things like that, and we
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  Speaker 1: have space aliens. What's up?
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  Speaker 9: How did you come up with the definition? Who came
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  Speaker 9: up with the definition of cryptids?
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  Speaker 1: Well, cryptid, of course, means like crypto, like secret.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I understand the etymology.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, cryptozoology is the study of creatures that are not
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  Speaker 1: yet known. So in other words, if people discover like
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  Speaker 1: traces that an animal might exist in a certain area
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  Speaker 1: and they try to track it down, that's cryptozoology. That's
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  Speaker 1: trying to find secret animals. Now, by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: want to mention that creatures are actually found every other week. Like,
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  Speaker 1: we find new species constantly in the ocean, all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, in the ocean. Yeah, there we have
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  Speaker 1: a good example. But people who call themselves cryptozoologists usually
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  Speaker 1: go looking for things that are a little bit more unusual,
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  Speaker 1: like Bigfoot. Like they're not looking for a microbe. They're
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  Speaker 1: not looking for like a subspecies of some kind of fish.
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  Speaker 1: They're actually looking for, you know, something huge that eats
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  Speaker 1: a lot of food that only like five farmers have
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  Speaker 1: seen in Arkansas in the last 30 years, you know?
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  Speaker 1: So that's why when people usually talk about cryptozoology, you know,
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  Speaker 1: most scientists just sort of roll their eyes and say,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, that. But yeah, that's where the word came from.
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  Speaker 1: Make sense?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So do you guys have any parting thoughts on cryptozoology
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  Speaker 1: or would you like to grow up someday and become
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  Speaker 1: cryptozoologist yourself?
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  Speaker 9: Are you a cryptozoologist or are you just like an interviewer?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just an interviewer, but I did in fact play
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  Speaker 1: a cryptozoologist once in a play. But that was a
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  Speaker 1: long time ago. That was like all last year or something.
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  Speaker 2: What's your own personal opinion on what you're talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, on cryptids? Well, I said before, I like to
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  Speaker 1: hold to a principle called Sterling's Razor. My name is Sterling,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. Which says that all other things being equal,
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  Speaker 1: choose the solution that's most interesting. So if you run
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  Speaker 1: across a giant foot in the woods, yeah, you could
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  Speaker 1: believe it's just a footprint that's been distorted or some
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  Speaker 1: random natural phenomena. Or you could believe there's a giant
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  Speaker 1: ape man living out in the woods. Which one's more
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  Speaker 1: fun to believe?
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  Speaker 9: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that... That's really cool.
• 15:10
  Speaker 11: It's like people get bored, so they have to create
• 15:12
  Speaker 11: their own fun.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's like drugs?
• 15:14
  Speaker 11: I mean, like, people get bored, so they have to
• 15:16
  Speaker 11: create their own fun.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's funny, because someone just used that exact
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: same explanation over there on that table to talk about God.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: No, dude, I totally feel that.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So drugs, God, and cryptids.
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: Are all the same thing.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: They're all the same thing. So God is a Bigfoot
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: on acid.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
• 15:37
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. Wow. Wow. You people are credits to your Catholic
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: school teachers.
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: I went to a Catholic school for two years.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Of course. It's only people who go to Catholic school
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: that wind up really hating Catholics.
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 11: No, dude, my dad has a life-size cross.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Your dad has a life-size cross? Wow. Does he intend
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to put anybody on it? Because that's a problem.
• 15:59
  Speaker 11: He really likes Jesus.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people who have crosses do.
• 16:02
  Speaker 11: No, but he chose Jesus to escape from drugs.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Well, that works for some people.
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: So it's another addiction.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: So religion is an addiction.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 16:12
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Well, what's not an addiction?
• 16:14
  Speaker 11: And they use it to, like, justify shit.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Well, help me out here. Because I have a question. Okay,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: so it's basically assumed, right, when you're looking out into
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the stars at night, like, you look out there and
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you're like, you're not like, I know everything that's going on.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: No, I have no idea what's going on.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: You have no idea what's going on. Right, right, right.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So can we fairly say that very few of us,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you don't even know what's happening right now.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: To be honest.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I never do. So the question then is, if you
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, you know, isn't it assumed, though,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: as you make your way through your day that you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: have some sort of assumption about what's going on?
• 16:51
  Speaker 11: No, I never know what the day is going to hold.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I mean, you assume that the sun's
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: going to rise and that things are going to happen
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and something.
• 16:58
  Speaker 11: I'm very scared for anything could happen at any time.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Anything could happen at any time. But I guess what
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm getting at is this. What's the difference between the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: assumptions that you make about your universe that you don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: really understand all that well and the assumptions that other
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: people make when they claim that something like Bigfoot or
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: a god exists?
• 17:17
  Speaker 11: Because they need to know something. They need to find
• 17:21
  Speaker 11: something that they can put faith in and believe in
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: to ensure them that the sun is going to rise
• 17:26
  Speaker 11: or something. But that doesn't really relate to Bigfoot. That's
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: more just religion.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So Bigfoot and religion aren't the same? I mean, they are.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: They have overlapping.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Overlapping.
• 17:36
  Speaker 11: Overlapping things in common, but they are not entirely the
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: same because of the complexities in each.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I see. Well, a lovely thesis delivered by... Eden.
• 17:48
  Speaker 15: Eden.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a pleasure talking with you, Eden.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: You too.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Hope to see you again. There you have it, folks.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: More and more information about cryptids and God.
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: Feels like blind faith Let me down today. So, so
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: divine with a young, rousing mind. Smile, sweet kind, a
• 18:24
  Speaker 12: laugh that triggered my heart.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: On December 25th, 1953, a child is born, a virgin birth. Tomorrow,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: all civilization will tremble under his almighty power. He must
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: be obeyed.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Who, what?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Moses and Jesus, really.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: Sacrifices to your God are nothing new.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Are you going to tell me all those people are
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: meant to die?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Why did you attack all.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Those people?
• 19:16
  Speaker 13: God told me to. God told me to.
• 19:28
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• 19:55
  Speaker 12: Feels like life, babe. Let me down today.
• 20:05
  Speaker 13: Babe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Okay, kids, now just a message about the actual artwork
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: featured at the Cryptid Carnival. I just wanted to pass
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: along that many of the special cryptid works of art
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: created specifically for this show are still.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Available for purchase.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be posting photos of all the work
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: at MovieMeltdown.com on our Meltdown Boutique page. There, you too
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: can pick yourself up some original cryptid artwork from this
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: actual show. No matter where you live, just email me.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: The address will be there on the page. and we
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: can work out a way to ship your favorite cryptid artwork.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Right to your home.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: So go check out our Tales from the Cryptids Art
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Show online. Speaking of terrific artwork, for this event I
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: enlisted the artistic services of Kelly Toon, who set up
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: out on the sidewalk of the event and started drawing
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: caricatures of all the weird people and creatures that wandered by,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: including many of our crew. She did a great job,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: and we want to thank her for adding her art
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: to the Tales from the Cryptids Art Show. So for
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: more on her work, go to kellytoon.com. That's Toon Like Cartoon, T-O-O-N.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: But I'll also put the link to her page in
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: the rundown of.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: This very episode.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: So go there and check it out. And speaking of
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: those caricatures, right in the middle of all the shenanigans
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: going on at this very cryptid carnival, Sterling and I
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: sat down and got a caricature done of us while
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: we were recording. Again, I love to tie the actual
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: recording into everything that we do on this show. So
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Kelly is actually sitting there drawing us while we ramble
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: on about cryptids and whatnot. Which is what we're going
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: to do right now. So let's head back into the
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: coverage and we'll be sitting down to get our caricature
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: done by Kelly.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think we need like a podcasting version of it here.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do that. So you guys have a podcast? He does.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just a pod mooch.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: You do this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be this one.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It's an action shot. What are you talking about? It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: an action shot. It's a still action shot. Sort of.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Kind of. Something like that. So welcome back, by the way.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Somehow I hit the off button when I was running
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: around doing interviews. See, I turned it over to you
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: for a minute and look what happened. Dude, I'm not
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: prepared for this sophisticated podcast technology.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: The really funny thing is you guys don't even know
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: he was rambling for like 28 minutes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And God only knows what those people were. No, it's amazing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I talked to the youth of the world about the misinformation,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: about cryptids. and about all the confusion and darkness being
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: spread by the government and the major corporations and the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: media about the cryptid menace, which they didn't even know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: what a cryptid was for the longest time. And then
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: at some point they came to the conclusion that cryptids
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: were something that people needed to believe in, like God.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: They actually equated Bigfoot to God.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Actually, one of the very first discussions we had on them...
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: When we started doing the Tales from the Cryptids series,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: we decided that it was something that sort of was
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: necessary in society, specifically in American society. It was this
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: sort of like lost wilderness. It was this like we'd
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: kind of gotten to that point of like, you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: they kind of kick in, especially the Bigfoot stories in
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: like the like 60s. So we'd already kind of built
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: this whole society and we'd sort of settled down and
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: we'd conquered most of this country that we planned on conquering.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: And like there was this weird leftover version that was
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: like this, there was some piece that was never going
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: to be tamed. It was this wild thing that was
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: elusive to the point that you couldn't even contain it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It was this thing. It was an idea. It was
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: an ideal of Americana. I don't know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I think we kind of hit on something that There
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: is a reason I think it's so much more popular
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: in America. It's the world over you have the stories,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: but we have a weird subculture that's obsessed with it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: And I think a piece of it is that missing
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: lost wilderness thing that we have.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I think there's something to that. I mean, I won't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: even comment on whether or not cryptids are actually real
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in any sense. I mean, to me, that's beside the point.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Cryptids and the phenomenon around cryptids, as well as the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: phenomenon around aliens in the 50s, Even to some degree
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: like stories about the Soviets during the Cold War. In
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: some way, I feel like they all actually represent sort
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of a folk culture not unlike that of English fairies
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: or leprechauns or the Kelpie or any sort of like.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: ancient Celtic or medieval Anglo-Saxon mythology, like where they peopled
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the world with all these sort of interesting creatures that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: they imagine sort of lurked at the edges of society.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And maybe in some way these things serve a similar
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: function for us. if so i think that's cool because
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: i actually think that uh belief in certain in such
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: things whether or not again i don't care if they
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: exist or not that to me is beside the point
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: uh that belief in these things is actually kind of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: fundamental to a healthy national psychology you know it's like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: there should be room for the unknown there should be
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: room for the unusual things should not be left up
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to uh uh things should not always be assumed to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: be known perfectly you know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of it. There has to be that, like,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: unknown wilderness thing. I think that's how it comes back
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: to the weird Bigfoot thing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think what else we can
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: say about this. But, yeah, no, it's kind of amazing
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: what the... So she asked, is that where zombies come from?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Is that what the phenomenon of zombies is all about? Well,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: here's my suspicion. Zombies, to me, I think represent a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: different aspect of pop culture. I think that they relate
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit more to maybe the population issue as
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: people are afraid of it. Now, by the way, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: actually don't believe in the population fear. I'm not actually
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that worried about it. But with that said, I think
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that people who live in urban areas and deal a
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: lot in customer service jobs definitely have a lot to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: sympathize with the idea of zombies, you know?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: For them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: It's not just a monster. It's a direct representation of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: things that they deal with every day. That's just a thought, though.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't even think that fully explains why the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: George Romero zombie has become so enormously popular.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: I think it's bits and pieces. I think part of
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: it is there is just that fear of death. And
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I think there's a very basic version of it that's
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: just people being afraid of... Of the unknown, of death,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: of that other side, and they don't know what to
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: do about it, so they create these... It's why all
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: the monsters have sort of come about. If you're living
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: within the fear, you're kind of... Within that second, like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: you're not afraid. Like, it's sort of trying to answer
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that question of what's in the unknown, and if you
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: make up what's in the unknown, then you know.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I think part of it is that, and then there is, like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: these weird other versions that we've been branching off over
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: the years that, like, is it, like, the... consumerism that
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: we come up with. You get to Shaun of the
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Dead or something where it's the mindlessness as he walks
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: down the street every day. And don't we all feel
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: like we go through the same drudgery every day? So
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: there's a weird commentary there. Or it is fear of
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: overcrowding or disease or just general fears in our society
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: at this point that just manifest themselves In this zombie thing,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of why people latch onto it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Even if they're unknowingly doing that, I think that's part
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Also, who doesn't imagine a day where they could just
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: run down their hometown street with a shovel in hand
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and just beat the crap out of every face they
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: run into? That is also true. Who doesn't have that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: day every day? I mean, who doesn't wake up every
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: morning wishing that they could just teach them all a lesson?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Who doesn't hope that... We are a culture built on that,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: you know... crazy individuals and that time bomb of like
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: one of these days i'm gonna get to do things
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: my way and so when all hell breaks loose no
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: matter what kind if if it's a virus outbreak or
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: zombies overtake the world or nuclear war sets in you
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: know it's like you get all of a sudden you
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: get your free chance to do whatever the hell you
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: want so.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So i like i like by the way individualism is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a time bomb is that you're yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 16: You're a walking time bomb right now Um, yeah, it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: funny actually, cause, cause, um, that was what people used
• 28:31
  Speaker 16: to say back when the American experiment was first starting,
• 28:33
  Speaker 16: you know, eventually.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: You know, you're all your people who are just let
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: loose spot, you know, to do whatever they want. They're
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: going to, they're going to eventually kill each other. That's
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: just inevitable. Well, I, that's how, that's another thing. Maybe, yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: The whole idea of, of, of, the cryptid, the experiment,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, run wild. Like certain cryptids are rumored to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: be escaped monsters from laboratories and things. And that plot
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: is in every TV show, you know? So, so, um,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, maybe here in America we have
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a love for experiments gone wrong as much as we
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: have a love for science gone right. Again, we may
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: be an experiment gone wrong. Well, I certainly know all
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: about that. I do experimental theater and that's almost always
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: going wrong.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I built a lab in my home. You built a
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: lab in your home? I'm working on experiments. Did you
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: re-watch Re-Animator?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Last year. Actually, that frogman over there, I watched it
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: in his backyard.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: He projected it on a screen in his backyard. By
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the way, the frogman is hanging on the tree.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: If you haven't talked to Bo, he's put on a
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: giant Leland frog monster.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: That's Bo. Yeah, that's Bo. Do you know Bo? He's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: very special, that Bo. She doesn't know Bo, or she
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: does seem to know Bo. I know, she's waggling her eyebrows.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Everyone kind of has that when Bo's around, actually. He's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a charming fella with his tie and his vest.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: But now he's put on a giant frog head, so
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: he's been running in traffic and trying to chase down
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: a train. Now he's doubling up on frog masks. Yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: he grabbed my other frog mask. He's trying to put
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: that on the frog mask. He's in disguise while in disguise.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the frog mask has unleashed something
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in Bo. And we have someone with a bird on
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: their shoulder. This is pretty entertaining. Yeah, I know. It
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: looks like a pirate with some sort of hip attachment.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: oh wait is that a real bird that is a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: real bird oh holy shit that person has a real
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: bird on their shoulder that's awesome they're a real like
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: pirate that's yet to be seen and they're like one
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of the cool kinds of pirates not the ones i
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: see on cnn they're not cool well i mean i'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: sure they're living the dream man come on i'm sorry
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: i'm sure they're cool where they're from like so cool
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: when they take over your boat well it's just one
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of those things of like oh man like we have
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: pirates then none of them wear three-cornered hats like you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: know It's not so much like a, hey, that's lame.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: It's more like, really, guys, can't we?
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: If you're going to take over someone else's vote, at
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: least stop by Long John Silver's first.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Is that too much to ask? By the way, we
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: would like to apologize to the nation of Somalia and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all of its people. And Long John Silver. And for Iyaka.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, screw anybody that makes fun of Somalia. Actually,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: they've got a very interesting legal system, which I'll go
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: in depth in in the next podcast. We don't need that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Be that way, Brian. Always wreck my dreams. That's what
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'm here for. So we're hanging out. We're listening to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: some tunage. We're still getting our picture drawn. That'd be
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the formalities. Well, I think it's going to be... I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think she's making it extra humiliating. Is her goal. Because
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: ever since I saw her for the first time, she's
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: had a very wicked smile on her face. Sinister, I believe. Sinister.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: And.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: She's been waiting. She's been waiting, and... Oh, God. It's...
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: She's doing something to the lower half of the picture,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't know what it is. Uh-oh, here it comes. Uh-oh,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: here comes our.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: That is the rambling mood that we usually.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to kill everybody? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. So,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I think we found our... Your new, our new, uh... Wow,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that's a perfect me, too. I look just that chubby
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and bald. I think this is fine. I don't know
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Frogger's being a creeper. Uh, he
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is a creeper. Can we help you, Leland Frogmonster? You
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: did great work, by the way. Yes, absolutely fabulous. What
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was your name again? That was the Frogmonster.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, uh.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: That was a nickname of mine in theater camp.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Back when I wasn't.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Cool and I went to theater camp. Wait, when you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: weren't cool? When I weren't cool. Sorry, I should say
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: when I was cool. You know, when I was doing
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: musicals in the summer like all the cool kids. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: think we need to redefine this cool you're using. Man,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I redefine cool. You're throwing the word cool around loosely.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I walk around and people realize that they can't do
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the things they were doing before. It's not cool anymore. Well,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I put it on a baseball cap,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: everyone else takes theirs off. Obviously, because I do it
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: too cool. Can you talk about berries and big foots
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and all that fun stuff? Yeah, hey, I mean, it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: how I keep myself interested. I just turn off my
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: brain and I turn on my mouth. And yet, we
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: handed you a microphone. I don't know what the hell
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I was thinking. Well, you were thinking you really need
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to eat up minutes on this podcast and you had
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: nobody else to turn to. Seems to be working.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Because she's... He's kind of like that all the time,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: but if you let him.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Kelly, I'm giving you the mic.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Recently, we were at Wonderfest, and that frog creature over there,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: he actually got completely made up in full-on werewolf attire,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: in actual latex, and he spent the entire night made
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: up as a werewolf, and he ran around terrorizing people,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: much like he is here tonight.
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: That sounds like my kind of fun.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: It's kind of his thing. He likes to pester people.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Not for our purposes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: No, it's okay. I was going to say, yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Lovely evening out here at Nancy's Bagel.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Grounds. Where are we?
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: Nancy's Bagel Grounds.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Kelly, you make a wonderful, clueless reporter.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: You have that going for you.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Where am I?
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: Who am I?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Where am I? What am I saying? Oh, cue card.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm drawing. All right.
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: Who am I drawing next?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: You can edit this out.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Do you have any questions for a professional caricature artist
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: since I've got.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: A microphone in my hand?
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: I have nothing but pictures of myself. What sort of
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: weird ego thing am I working with here?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I have one in there that I'm on the head
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of an alien, like the egg-bursting alien from Alien.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: Nice.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My head has been put on one of those.
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: Very creative.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't request that part, but it's... It's pretty entertaining.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: It's always the stuff that you don't request that's the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: most fun. Well, I convinced Eric Chu to do the artwork,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and then he was like, I'll do it, but I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you what I'm going to do.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Who did you say you convinced to do the artwork?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Eric Chu. He's like a visual designer. He did the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Battlestar Galactica reboot.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I knew I recognized the name.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: He did all the Cylons and Raiders and Vipers. Really
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: great stuff, too. Really great stuff. I'm a big fan
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: of his style. And he's a weirdo. Here comes my
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: next victim, I think. Your next victim?
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: I'll hand it back over to you. All right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: We'll turn it over and clear the chairs so you
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: can do more caricaturing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Now the sheep man outwits and outguesses all comers, runs
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: a reckless course in fierce excitement and showdown action.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: So for the movie tie-in in this episode, we waited
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: until after dark to be extra creepy. and we sat
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: down and watched The Legend of the Popelik Monster. Now,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: this is sort of an infamous movie, especially in this area.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: It's a short film made by a local filmmaker and
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: has been around for years, and it sort of built
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: up a reputation as time has gone on. So not
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: only was I glad to get a chance to show
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: it there for everyone at the show, but I was
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: also thrilled to convince the director of the short film
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: to come out and join us for the viewing and
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: actually hang around afterwards and answer some questions. And as
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: much as I wanted to, yes, talk about the cryptid
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: featured in this film, I was equally as interested in
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: learning about his early days, starting off as a young filmmaker.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, this short was actually shot on film, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: some of you younger listeners may need to get an
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: adult to explain the pre-digital days of cinema to you.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: But seriously, I was glad to get a chance to
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: hear his version of being a young filmmaker who actually
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: took the initiative to get his film made, and back
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: when the resources and equipment were much harder to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: a hold of.
• 37:01
  Speaker 15: The trestle.
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: Ooh, sheep man.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Who is the sheep man?
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: You've never heard of the public monster?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Man, where you been all your life? Band practice?
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: No, what is it?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: It's this half-man, half-sheep creature that lives out near the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: train trestle. Yeah, and at night it comes out and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: it lures people out on the tracks. Where did it
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: come from?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Do you really want to know?
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Well, there was this horny old farmer Who had a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: torrid affair with a youth.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: All right, so we're going to jump right back into
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: the coverage here. And this is right as we finish
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: watching the film. We're going to go right into talking
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: to the director. Well, that is right after Sterling wings
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: this crazy intro.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I was sitting around with us to watch. Like many
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of you, I came here because I'm interested in the truth.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: Of what happened.
• 38:07
  Speaker 17: And I'd like to think that every time that we
• 38:09
  Speaker 17: get together to talk about an event like this that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 17: so poorly understood by so many of us, it brings
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: us a little bit closer to understanding the evils and
• 38:19
  Speaker 17: terrors that lie at the heart of.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Sometimes our own community just off Taylor's Mill Road.
• 38:24
  Speaker 17: So thank you all for coming.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to have a quick Q & A, talk
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: about the movie.
• 38:29
  Speaker 17: And talk about whatever else may arise in that twilight
• 38:33
  Speaker 17: zone between consciousness and cryptids.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I just made that up.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: How's that sound?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: So we are here with the director. And Ron, I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: will let you give your full name because I don't
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: want to butcher it. So please.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It's Shultnick.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: There we go.
• 38:48
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I guess we just wanted to find out early on,
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: where did you learn about the story itself or just.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: The legend of the goat man or sheep man or
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I think like most everybody around here, they heard
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the story. I heard the story when I was growing up.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It was told to me a lot. I was in
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the marching band, and so there are a lot of
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: stories told about the sheep man when I was in school.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Oddly enough, I didn't go to the trestle when I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: was that age. I was too scared. It scared the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: crap out of me.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't want to do this.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: Smart kid.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't really until later when I was... This
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: was my first film, and I was looking for something
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: that was... indigenous to Louisville, you know, and to me
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: nothing seemed more indigenous than The Sheep Man. So that's
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: what we started to work on.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: So I guess where did your filmmaking come in? Was
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it something you'd always been interested in even before that?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been wanting to make films for a long time.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I was a cinematic freak when I was in high school,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. So making movies is something
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: that I'd always wanted to do for a long time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: My dad had a Super 8 camera, and I'd steal
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: it whenever I could. We'd just far around and make movies.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I've got a question about you. When you tell people
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: at the bank or wherever, like, Hey, I need more
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: money for my sheep man movie. Um, and like, do you,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: have you gotten a lot of responses from people like,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, it's about time someone filmed the menace
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: or like, or they wanted to tell you their own
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: like sheep man stories or anything like that. uh, like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: have you had a, in other words, have you had
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: like much of a community response to this film in
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that way?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: For about 25 years I have.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Um, you know, it, it started out, started out anytime
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I would get a, anytime there was something that would
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: happen at the trestle, I would get a phone call from,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: from one of the TV stations wanting to use the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: clip because, you know, there was an incident at the trestle.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: So it was like, um, but yeah, that's, I mean,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that's how the movie started when I was, you know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I was, when I was doing the research for the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: film there, you know, this is pre-internet. Um, I would
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: just talk to people.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: Ah, the 90s.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 80s.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Late 80s. Whichever.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: So, and, you know, I would do research in libraries, but,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you know, surprisingly enough, there wasn't that much information in
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: libraries about the legend of the pulpit monster. Go figure.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Shocking oversight in our nation's public libraries. And the Dewey
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Decimal System.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So what, but, what all my interviews, I would talk
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: to anybody that I could that had a story. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the film became not so much about the Sheep Man,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: or the story for me became not so much about
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the Sheep Man itself, although there was a facet of that, obviously.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: But the stories that people were telling me of their
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: adventures through the trestle. And, you know, they keep coming.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And I guess he's not here, I can say this.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But my cousin did the costume. And she's been married
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: for about 15 years, maybe, I think. They were married
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: after the movie.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: To the sheet man?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: No.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: My cousin who did the costume, her husband just told
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: me a week ago that he went out to the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: trestle and was caught by a train and had to
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: run towards the train to avoid getting hit.
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: Oh, wow.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Because he was so close to the other side. So
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you're just now telling me this.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: What a great... How many years have I been telling you?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: He knew about the movie. But anyways... But yeah, I mean,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I would get stories all the time. And before I
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: made the movie, after I made the movie, people want
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to share their stories with me. And people want to
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: ask me about the Pulp Lick Monster, and I'm no
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: authority on the monster at all. I mean, I've seen
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: documentaries about the film that, or about the legend that
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: have incorporated, you know, they interviewed me and used a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: piece of the film from it, but. They would go
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: into more detail about the sheep man than I even
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: knew of.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Well, but, I mean, to be fair, though, I mean,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you just told us that for the last 25 years
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you've been the go-to guy whenever the news reporters say
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: something else has happened out there at the trestle. I mean,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: as much as anyone can be called an authority on something,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, you've made a film about the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Pope-like monster. You've been in touch with the media about
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the Pope-like monster. You've done research and watched documentaries about
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the Pope-like monster. You're the most educated man I know
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: about the public monster. I can say that right off
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the bat. I don't even have to think about it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you know the term that Alfred Hitchcock used called
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the MacGuffin? It was the device to propel the story.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: The Sheep Man is the MacGuffin. The Sheep Man was
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: what propelled the story. These kids to go out to
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the trestle, have their encounter, the little passage of rights,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the little flirting with the girl. the challenging by the friend,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: that's all. The Sheep Man was just a vehicle.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Just to propel that, to move the story forward.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So how long was the shooting process? You said it
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: was 88 when you started making it or earlier than that?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: It took me two years to make the film because
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: we had no money. I was shot on 16mm film.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I had to rent a camera.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, props for that. I love the 16mm.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. It's a classic black and white It's
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: a classic look.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: It looks great.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: It's probably the worst day for night cinematography ever captured
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: in a movie. But, you know, it is what it is.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And whenever you see an actor by themselves, they probably
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: were by themselves because we filmed this thing piecemeal. I
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: stupidly cast people that were out of town.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: That happens. Yeah. But, you know, to your credit, though,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, like every, you know, you criticize your own cinematography, but.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Almost every shot of that trestle is overlaid with shadows,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and you see people scrambling up dark hilltops. It really
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: does feel like a strange, otherworldly... I'm actually not a native.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I haven't been out to the trestle yet and seen
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the otherworldly power of the place. So I don't know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but it really does look like a place I would
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: never want to go. So if that was part of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: your intention, you really captured that. I will never go
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to Pope Lick. I will obey the no trespassing sign.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a fence there now.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Which they put up.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: To keep the Pope Lick people in?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: You still can. I've actually, a Fox reporter, he did
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: a story about six months ago.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: There's another reporter calling you and being like, hey.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And we actually cut through the fence, and he wanted
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: to get some shots.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of reporting I love.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: He didn't use. I guess he got scared.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Oh that came up right after that i mean you
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: you made this and then all of that media craziness
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: sort of set in and sort of started to center
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: around you i guess you had no idea what you
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: were getting yourself into shooting.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It well i you know i knew i was flirting
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: with a little bit of danger because i was shooting
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: i asked the railroad for for permission to shoot the
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: trestle and.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: They said sure um oh so it's still in operation
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: today like it's still uh It's a functioning railroad, yeah. Again,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've not been to this mysterious Pope
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Lick planet. We'll send you down there.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: But they said, sure, you can film it. We just
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: need a $ 3 million insurance liability policy, which is.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: You totally had that.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Let me just pull that out.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Not a problem.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So we trespassed, obviously.
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Like most indie filmmakers. Like most real filmmakers, excuse us.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: Awesome.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: They weren't happy with the film, as you might imagine.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: After that, there actually were deaths, and then a lot
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: of that media came about.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: There were two actual deaths between the time we started
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: it and when we finished it. So the railroad was
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: in litigation with those two cases. So obviously they didn't
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: like the film. No. When the film was screened at
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the Uptown Theater on Bardstown Road for its premiere.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Which now serves burritos, by the way. The fall in theaters.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: There was just this little blurb in the arts section
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: on Sunday announcing the screening of the film. By Tuesday,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I found myself giving a private screening to the railroad's attorney,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the railroad's chief of safety police, and the mother of
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: one of the victims.
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's not fun at all.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Talk about a tough crowd. Yeah. The whole message that
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Ben does at the end of the film, I really
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: put that in myself because I did want there to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: be some sobering message in the film. But they wanted more.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: They wanted me to add a card at the beginning
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: of the film that states the dangers. It's 300 feet across.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: It's 100 feet high. There's no way someone could physically
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: hang from the trestle that long.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I think that would backfire. That's almost like a dare
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: for kids at that point. There's no way you could
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's right.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Waiting for waiting for horrible things to happen and not
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: just goat men or sheep men but but other trains
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: yeah trains.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And of course after the night after the film they
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: caught people out on the track and they're like see
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: we told you right your movie is causing harm.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know i guess their jobs yeah i was
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: gonna say but but it seems to me like pretty
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: much everyone is always always ready for like oh sweet
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: there's a there's another work of art out there that
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: that that We can attack in lieu of attacking all
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: these people who have made a decision of their own
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: free will. I don't know. I stand by your little film.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I like it. It was fun. I'm glad you made it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. What I wanted to ask is now we deal
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: with such a different world for independent filmmakers, especially for
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: kids that are coming up that want to do it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: For you, shooting it like that, what do you do
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: with a film? I mean, it's a very different world.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: So how did you... Once you had it done, then
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: what were the steps at that point for you to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: try to do something with your movie?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously you want it to be screened, so it
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: was in film festivals. I had a lot of local screenings.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Screening it 25 years later in a coffee shop, you know?
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: So you just look for any avenue you can to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: screen it. I mean, obviously it's a different landscape now
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: with YouTube and things like that. But there are still
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: film festivals. There's still the little... film society that has screenings.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and you know there's there's venues anywhere that you can
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you can find them you know or create them yourself
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and we and we did that after after the the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: premiere was so successful um i teamed with another filmmaker
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and we had like a week we screened the film
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: for a week another week at the uptown theater so
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: you just kind of create your own opportunities to get
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: get the word out there cool.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: So do we want to open it up yeah if
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: we if anybody else has any just do we have
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: any questions to the mic and uh yeah we'll ask
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: him questions.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, about the sheep man, about his personal encounters with
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the mysterious. Okay, you're walking up, sir. Is that what
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: this elephant motion is? I thought you were a frog earlier. Sir,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: could you state your name?
• 49:54
  Speaker 18: My name is Bo.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Good job. So what's your question, Bo?
• 49:58
  Speaker 18: My question is, how did you shoot the shots where
• 50:01
  Speaker 18: he's hanging off the trestle as the train goes by?
• 50:04
  Speaker 18: Because that's really impressive.
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: Was it?
• 50:07
  Speaker 18: I mean, were you actually shooting when a train was
• 50:09
  Speaker 18: going by or was it some sort of rear screen projection?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: No, there's no rear screen. I didn't, I didn't have
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: that kind of access to that kind of technology. Um,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: you know, in the story, in your mind, you think
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that he's in the middle of the trestle when, you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: if you, of course now the trestle goes all the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: way up to right above ground. So it was just,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: so he's just, he's just a few feet away really.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's, there's a shot on, on, in the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: outtakes on the DVD where he, he lets go. Um,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it just, you know, the story puts you out in the, in,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the trestle when in fact he's
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: just a few feet away.
• 50:40
  Speaker 18: And that just answered my question. I was going to
• 50:42
  Speaker 18: ask for both the viewers and myself, if you all
• 50:45
  Speaker 18: sold copies of it, because yes.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: Excellent.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Normally $ 20, $ 10 cryptid special tonight.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's a deal. Cryptid special. Well, cryptids
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: are always special here at movie belt down.
• 50:58
  Speaker 18: I guess one last question. Do you have anything you're
• 51:00
  Speaker 18: currently working on now?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I'm working on a, uh, yeah a handful of films
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: right now um it's a uh i'm working on a
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: detective story um i can't really talk about him too
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: much right now.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Gotcha it's too much and it's a mystery is what
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you're telling us yeah it's a mystery yeah yeah get
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: it yeah no sorry it's a bad joke um i
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: know rod you were asking about what other stuff he
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: had out there or if things were available. So I guess,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: do you have other stuff available at your website or
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: ways that people listening could get a hold of?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: RonShelton.com.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Spell the name.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: We will put a link on the show. There you go.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: It'll be easier.
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: We have time for more questions.
• 51:47
  Speaker 15: I grew up in J-Town, so I went to J-Town
• 51:50
  Speaker 15: High School. I know exactly this story. I've done what
• 51:52
  Speaker 15: you see in the movie.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 51:54
  Speaker 15: And I'm still alive.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And you're still here.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: Or are you?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the twist of this episode. You saw The
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Sheep Man?
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: I did not see The Sheep Man, thank God. But
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: I've heard lots of stories about The Sheep Man over
• 52:06
  Speaker 15: the years. And your film just kind of comes up
• 52:09
  Speaker 15: over and over in my life. I was a manager
• 52:11
  Speaker 15: at Wild and Lonely Video for about six years. And
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: your film was unobtainable. And every time Halloween came up,
• 52:18
  Speaker 15: I swear I could answer the phone and say, thanks
• 52:20
  Speaker 15: for calling Wild Moly Video if you'd like to get
• 52:23
  Speaker 15: the legend of the Pope Lick. I mean, literally, almost
• 52:27
  Speaker 15: everyone calling was calling about your film for year after year.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I was hooking them up. I was hooking Todd up
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: with first VHS and then we did a DVD.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had one copy on VHS. They still have
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: some DVDs, but it's only a couple copies.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: You would think, but I think every time you've sent any,
• 52:45
  Speaker 15: we sold them almost immediately, and then Todd would forget
• 52:47
  Speaker 15: until next Halloween. So that's kind of how it went.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I'll send them to you.
• 52:51
  Speaker 15: Now I'm editor for LouisvilleHalloween.com.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I'll just throw you the card right now.
• 52:56
  Speaker 15: And we have tons of people write us all the
• 52:58
  Speaker 15: time asking about this film. So I've tried to turn
• 53:01
  Speaker 15: them over to your website. So I assume you are
• 53:03
  Speaker 15: still selling it there.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 15: Definitely. And I just want to thank you for bringing
• 53:08
  Speaker 15: the film out here. I watched it. It's probably been
• 53:10
  Speaker 15: 10 years since I've seen it. And it strikes me
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: as having the same kind of quality as, like, George
• 53:15
  Speaker 15: Romero's Night of the Living Dead. It's got that stark
• 53:18
  Speaker 15: black and white, you know.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: It holds up.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: I think it is that cinematography. It's something about the
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: way that it's shot kind of gives it its own feel.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It's really cool.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're shooting film, you know, it's so much
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: different now with phones.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:33
  Speaker 15: When you shoot movies with phones.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: You never thought you would say that when you were
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: shooting this, did you?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't, no. I mean, every frame is money, so
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: every frame is precious, and you really align it for shots,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and you think very carefully about it.
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: I had the same question Bo had, actually. I wondered
• 53:47
  Speaker 15: if you used rear projection in that shot, or if
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: it was on another location or something like that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It's the magic of editing.
• 53:53
  Speaker 15: Some of those locations you shot back then in J-Town,
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: I don't think very many of them are even around anymore.
• 53:58
  Speaker 15: Have you been out there recently?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I have. I forgot the name of the reporter from 41,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: but we went out there and he shot.
• 54:08
  Speaker 15: It's a completely different scene now.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: There's a park now at the bottom of the.
• 54:12
  Speaker 15: There's so much is built. There's all these like strip
• 54:15
  Speaker 15: malls out there. Well, when I was a kid, it
• 54:18
  Speaker 15: was like wilderness basically. Once you pass J-Town, there was
• 54:21
  Speaker 15: nothing there until you got to the trestles. Now there's
• 54:24
  Speaker 15: like a speedway right across the street and there's a
• 54:26
  Speaker 15: cop car sitting there. There's fences erected. You can't really
• 54:30
  Speaker 15: climb up the hill anymore.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: And yet no more evidence of Goatman has emerged or Sheepman.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's actually kind of tragic.
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: It's lost to the.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Mists of history, I think.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories in this story. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 15: Well, thanks for coming out. I'm going to hand the
• 54:45
  Speaker 15: microphone back to the movie meltdown guy.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks, dude. I think that was it, unless anybody else
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: has anything. Do you have anything to add to that?
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I guess the last thing I want to say is
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: people are really in love with CGI right now, and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: they love to do monsters that are just all digital
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and things like that. I got to say, for me
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: being a big horror movie nerd, it's always so great
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to see a real mask on a creature, and the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: rubber or whatever moving in that weird way that that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: rubber latex stuff moves when the face contorts. there's something
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: really effective and creepy about it. Like I remember when
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I was a kid watching those movies and seeing those
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: really unnatural, but kind of physical faces moving and, uh,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: seeing that vision of the goat man is so real,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: you know, so it really brought it home for me. Uh,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: at least, at least as a child of eighties horror films,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you know, so I want to, I want to thank
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you again for doing such a great job on this film.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Aline, like I said, my cousin Aline, uh, did the
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: makeup and the costume and, I invited her here tonight.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry she's not here. She would love to have
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: heard your.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Well, pass it along.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Please do.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I'll send her to the podcast.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
• 55:55
  Speaker 10: Definitely.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Had you always heard goat versus sheep? Because there's so
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: many different stories.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: That's the argument, yeah. I think I hear probably goat
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: man more than sheep man. But I don't know. Sheep
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: man sounded better to me. I don't know why.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had never heard... Goat man was all I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: heard for a long time. In fact, I was in
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: a play where goat man was a character. It was
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: called Goblin Universe. My character played a cryptozoologist, and one
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of his roommates was Goatman, who kind of encouraged him
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to do a lot of naughty things. Goatman was all
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I heard. Sheetman, though, does have a weird creepiness to it, though,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that I like, too. Do we have any more questions
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: for our great director here? Anybody else want to investigate
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the mystery of Sheep and or Goatman further? Think that
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: is it? Oh, we got one more. The man with
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the Goatman Lives shirt. Goatman Lives shirt. Come forward, sir.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Come on. What is your name, sir? Ed Kirchner. One
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: of the featured artists here tonight.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: Mr.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Kirchner, what is your question?
• 57:05
  Speaker 18: Goatman, Sheepman, what's the difference here?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: One's a goat and one's a sheep, sir. Okay, all right.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: The Sheep Man has a torrid backstory. Goat Man just
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: has like he fell off the circus train backstory.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Also, Goat Men have those weird rectangular pupils. Can you
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: make a sweater out of the Goat Man? Sweater out
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: of the goat.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: A goat sweater, if you will. Sheep Man's got wool.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 57:35
  Speaker 18: The Sheep Man and Goat Man thing.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's because people prefer alpaca today, sir.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
• 57:46
  Speaker 18: I always heard the goat man from Popelik, and it
• 57:50
  Speaker 18: was sheep man now.
• 57:51
  Speaker 13: Uh-huh.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: So is it a regional thing?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: That's actually a really good question.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: It's like Germantown or Schnitzelburg. You know, it's like one
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: of those.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Or the Schnitz.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: And I think it kind of changed over the years, too.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: It may have been more Sheepman when you were doing that.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: And now you've got, again, you have a Goatman Live
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: shirt on. I have another different Goatman shirt at home.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I think there's been this weird resurgence in these last
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: 10 or 15 years that now people have sort of
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: latched on to that Goatman image. And we have weirdos
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: like us doing artwork about cryptids.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: That wanted to create something. And they've just kind of
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: steered more towards the Goatman. Cooler horns, maybe. Possibly. Possibly.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: That was it. It was the horns.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Thanks, man.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you for coming out and sitting here and
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: watching the movie with us and answering some questions.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man.
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: Very cool.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you all for enduring the movie.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, sir.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Goatman.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: Goatman.
• 58:50
  Speaker 12: Goatman.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Goatman.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: Goatman! Goatman!
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: Goatman!
• 59:07
  Speaker 14: Goatman!
• 59:12
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• 59:14
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• 59:15
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• 59:16
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• 59:22
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• 59:24
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• 59:28
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• 59:33
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• 59:36
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  Speaker 9: Hi, this is Lance Henderson, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: Listen if you dare.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 8: You haven't seen enough movies.
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  Speaker 9: All of life's riddles are.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Answered in the movies.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: And now, on with the show.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 14: Goatman, Goatman.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 13: Goatman, Goatman.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: You've now lived through the cryptic carnival. What is your
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: take on it?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: I want there to be rides next time.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I want a bouncy castle. See, I pitched that to Sterling, actually,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: when we were standing over there.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: I was like, I want a bouncy castle in the
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  Speaker 5: parking lot.
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  Speaker 9: We passed a bouncy castle.
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  Speaker 6: I said I was thinking more of like ride a Yeti.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. That seems inappropriate. Like Yeti, well,
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  Speaker 1: Yeti back rides.
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  Speaker 9: That's not any better.
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  Speaker 1: Just digging a hole. That's appropriate.
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  Speaker 6: How about we just find a really tall, hairy guy
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  Speaker 6: to piggyback people?
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  Speaker 5: Again, you're crossing into a very weird territory. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: saying you're not allowed to do it to each their own.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes you have to pay extra.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: But whatever. Not weird for us.
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  Speaker 5: Depends on what you're doing with this big, hairy guy.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: Innocent back rides.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds so creepy.
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  Speaker 9: There was a bouncy castle down the street. You're lucky
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  Speaker 9: I showed up here.
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  Speaker 5: Why did they steal my bouncy castle idea it was like.
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  Speaker 9: A little to the church that everyone like some kind
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  Speaker 9: of i was like fuck a bunch of art show
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  Speaker 9: there's a bouncy.
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  Speaker 1: Castle see they stole my idea i had that like.
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  Speaker 6: Months ago we definitely need at least games and prizes.
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  Speaker 1: But see nobody wanted to throw that.
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  Speaker 6: In i offered the popcorn machine but then where is
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  Speaker 6: it at but then you're like well someone has to
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  Speaker 6: work and i'm like i don't want to do.
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  Speaker 5: That was i was i in one spot more than
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  Speaker 5: about 15 seconds Somebody's.
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  Speaker 6: Got to work this shit.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't disagreeing with you, but I was just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to work that shit. You were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to work that popcorn machine.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe you could get a cute little outfit, like a little, like,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: what are they called? Where they go around the theater
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  Speaker 9: with the little, like, boxes of cigarettes.
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  Speaker 1: Cigarette girls, only they had popcorn, too. You could wear
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  Speaker 1: a little hat.
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  Speaker 9: But you could have, like, popcorn instead.
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  Speaker 6: Any excuse to wear a hat.
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  Speaker 1: So if you had a cute outfit, you might be
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  Speaker 1: up for it.
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  Speaker 9: You could have been a popcorn carny.
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  Speaker 6: My mom would have manned the popcorn machine, but then
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  Speaker 6: she would know what the podcast name is, and I'm
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: trying to avoid that at all.
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  Speaker 9: And all of the popcorn would taste like cigarette smoke.
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  Speaker 6: That's probably true.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Had there been a popcorn machine here and I'd known
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  Speaker 5: about it, I would have been here on time.
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  Speaker 6: Once I found my mom on the street corner selling popcorn.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not making this up.
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  Speaker 9: Is this some kind of secret code for something?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: No, I really... Once I was walking down the street.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a large hairy man involved?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 6: This is a true story. It was very sad. I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: was like, it's hilarious, but also sad. I turned the
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  Speaker 6: corner and my mom is standing on the street corner
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  Speaker 6: selling popcorn.
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  Speaker 9: Was she wearing a cute outfit?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone else surprised?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: Was she standing on a rug that had dolphins on it?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: She.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: Did bring the kitchen table with her, so.
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  Speaker 9: What kind of popcorn was it?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: Just regular.
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  Speaker 9: Buttered?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: Buttered popcorn, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No kettle corn?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: Movie popcorn?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: She has a popcorn machine, but yeah. She was like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: at her friend's house during some festival thing. Why am
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I being called? I don't want to answer. She was
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: at a festival, like a barbecue festival, and she was
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: in her friend's house on the corner, like with an
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: extension cord on her big popcorn machine. It is like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: a big popcorn machine from the 50s. It's not like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: a cute, dainty, modern, nostalgia, electronic popcorn machine.
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  Speaker 1: The fact there was a festival going on makes it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: kind of less sad. Yeah. It's not like she was
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: just there, hey, buy my popcorn.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: It is really hilarious to imagine someone just standing on
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: a random street corner for no reason selling popcorn.
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  Speaker 9: Wouldn't it be more awesome if she had the little
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: smoke machine with her? Like the little, the fancy, the fancy.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think I would find it more disturbing if I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: turned a corner and just out on the street was
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: sitting my dining room table. It seems like an odd
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: juxtaposition of I was just walking past a tree.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Hey, my dining room table.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we had awesome things.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe no popcorn machine, but we had belly dancers.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: Next time.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I missed the belly dancers.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: Oh, belly dancers.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I missed yoke.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And caricatures.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: bow with a frog head and almost got run over
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: by a car a couple times. And possibly hit by
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: a train at one point.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: I did see his seductive pole dance he was doing
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: with the tree. That was pretty sexy right there.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: I was seduced.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: She ran out there to try to get video, but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: it was too late.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I was kidding.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: That's what she says now. You didn't see her. She
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: was all flushed.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: It was mostly the frog head. There was some swooning
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: I love a man in a frog mask.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Yikes.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: How do you top that?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: We have fabulous artwork, which is possibly still available right
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: now as you're listening.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: So email us. I'll send you some photos. It's awesome.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I made a Bigfoot.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: He's kind of pissy.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: He's annoying.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: He doesn't have nipples. Why does Bigfoot not have nipples?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Other people have brought that up, oddly enough. He's not
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to. He's imaginary.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: He doesn't have to have nipples.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's not a super detailed piece.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: It's very cartoony on purpose.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 9: He has pectoral definition. He should have nipple definition as well.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Are you making yourself a Bigfoot?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: Maybe.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: You can make nothing but nipples on your creature that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: you made.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: It's going to be a nipple monster.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Nipple monster for you, but I made this annoyed Bigfoot.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 10: I would do that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: He ain't worried about no damn nipples. Nipple monster wearing.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: A frog mask.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I need to stop saying like my catchphrase is I'm
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: into that which like sounds really perverted I mean it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: totally innocently but like but that big hairy.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Guy keeps getting the wrong idea I noticed that Bigfoot
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: does not have nipples but he does necessitate a loincloth.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: If in fact that's what it is oh I see
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I like to leave a little mystery in my artwork maybe.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: Maybe he just has a really weird belly hairline.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah he might just be really hairy maybe his pubes
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: weird growth Any other bright, shining moments of the evening
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: for you?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: I had a Mexican Coke. That was pretty exciting.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, those are fantastic.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 9: Hell yeah, they are.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Well, that's too international. That's kind of why I like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: the artwork. We had creatures from different areas. We've got
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: this scripted over here. It's from Japan.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: We've got this one here. It's from Mexico. That one's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: from Scotland.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, a chupacabra.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: My favorite is the Fiji mermaid.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: He's American. He's folklore.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: I still like it best.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: I have a dog that looks like a collie, but
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: it got run over.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: And the Fiji mermaid has nipples.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Are you allured by those? A little bit.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I'm into that. That's what I hear.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: Word on the street next to that popcorn lady says,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: you're into that. All right, so we're wrapping things up
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: here at the Cryptic Carnival. And we're going to round
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: out this episode with the second of the two bands
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: to play here tonight.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: That would be the Formalities.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: They were a really great band and had a good
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: fan base there to support them, and I thank them
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: for coming out and playing for us.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Again, they are The Formalities. You can like them on Facebook.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: You can find more of their music on Reverb Nation,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: and that link to their music will be posted in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: with the information on this episode. So thank you to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: them for playing The Cryptic Carnival, and their song we'll
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: be going out on is the very fitting track, Popelik.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: So a big thank you to everyone who actually came
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: out to the show and supported us. That's always amazing
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: when we have people who show up and support what
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: we do. So thank you to you guys. And thanks
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: to all of you who have joined us on this
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: magical journey. condensed podcast version. I love being able to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: set up these live events, but I always still center
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: them around the recording of the show because I feel
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: like creating the show for you guys listening at home
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: is really my main concern. So being able to set
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: up something interesting and fun and for the audio listeners,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: it's equally as important as the live event that I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: put together. So, I appreciate you guys listening and hope
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: you enjoy these episodes and, you know, send us an
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: email and let us know what you think. But overall,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: thanks to everyone who helped put this together and for
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: all of you who have supported us along the way.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: It was a fun evening and I'm sure before.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Long we will return with more cryptid-themed episodes.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: I think we've had our fill of cryptids for the night. Now,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: somebody's got to piece this place back together. Or I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: say we just leave it.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Just, train wreck that it is, the wreckage of cryptid
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: fare around us. I guess we better clean this place up.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: So with that, let's get the hell out of here. Otherwise,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: that about does it. We will return next week. Same
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 13: Good night. Bye.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 9: Bye.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 16: In the middle of the night, just wandering around.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: By a little candlelight.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the clacking of the.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 13: Hooves, better start running fast.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 12: Soon as you see the railroad, you know you.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 16: Ain't gonna last.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: It's half, man, it's half old.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: It's gonna drag, drag, drag you down till.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 13: You feel like you won't stop. Better get ground running
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 13: with everything.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: That you've.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Got.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 13: That you've got. He's the.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: Public monster living in Taylorsville.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 12: If you ever see him coming, you better run.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: To the hills.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 12: He's gonna hypnotize your soul.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Till you feel like you can fly.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: Next thing you know, you're walking up a bridge.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: You're gonna die.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 18: He's half man, he's half man.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 13: Check you down till you feel like you won't stop.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 13: Better hit the ground running with everything.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: Boyfriend was taken away at how very peewee's playhouse this
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: building is. If you actually look.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: It's very odd. Yeah, it's like weird angles. It's not
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: exactly the first time I've been here.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: Who built this?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Peewee.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: Let's go for the blind actually. That would explain a lot.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: We're down the street from the American School for the Blind.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go get some chicken and waffles.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: No offense to the blind people.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I want chicken and waffles right now.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 9: Hilltop. Let's go to Hilltop. I need chicken and waffles.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I'm so hungry right now.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: We're going to eat chicken and waffles.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: As long as somebody helps me clean.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: This shit up.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm really hungry.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: After you explode, we also have to clean that up.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: I'm really hungry.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Because she's vibrating at this point.
• 1:13:03
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• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Talk hard!