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Interview with Mare of Easttown Costume Designer, Meghan Kasperlik · The Art of Costume Podcast

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It was very important that all of the costumes really looked
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authentic and that they look lived in that, you know may
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person picked it up off the floor and you know smell them
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Bond and was like, oh, it's fine today.
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I can wear it one more time. This specific show was really
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meant to be. Who are these characters?
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What happens in a day to these people?
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And they don't change their clothes.
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It was really about how live And and can we make the characters?
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Hello and welcome to the art of costume blogcast.
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My name is Spencer Williams. And thank you so much for
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joining us for yet another bonus episode.
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I am so excited today to talk about one of my new favorite
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shows, mayor of East Town. I just finished binging the show
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this week and I am dizzy from how much I love it.
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I feel like I need to talk to someone about it.
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Luckily, for me today. I am honored to be joined.
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To buy a Emmy nominee costume designer mayor of East Town.
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Meghan Casper. Lick Meghan.
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Welcome to the broadcast. You so much for having me - I'm
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so excited to talk to you. I've been looking forward to
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this all week. I've been to show so quickly and
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whole time. I was just like, oh, I need to
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ask about this. I need to talk to about this.
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When is this interview happening?
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So I'm so happy. It's finally here.
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Thank you so much. I'm very, very excited to talk
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to you and talk about mayor and how much everyone loves it.
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I'm just so pleased that everyone really.
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He is like, grasping the authenticity of the characters.
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It's so crazy. I can't wait to talk to you
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about it. But first Emmy nominee, we have
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to talk about that. How does it feel to be
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nominated? It's great.
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I was actually nominated for Fahrenheit 451 a few years ago
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in the Sci-Fi category, but this one is extra special to me
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because I am really excited that people are seeing the
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storytelling of costume and it's not just about having a fashion
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moment in a contemporary costume that it's actually The
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authenticity of the characters of the costume like really
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elevated the storytelling. So that's really exciting that
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people are recognizing that totally.
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I mean, it's just feels so real. So with entik.
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And I just loved every second of it is just really transported
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you to this world, which one you're thinking of contemporary
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costumes are not really. Sometimes they're not always
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thinking about. Oh, we're transporting
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yourselves to this whole different world.
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It's just in Pennsylvania, but you really achieve that feat
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it's so awesome. Bring him.
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So let's get into it. And there's a quote that I love
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by the costume designer of Hamilton Paul Tazewell.
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And he says, if a costume is right, then it should get out of
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the way. It shouldn't go away, but it
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should get out of the way. So you could be in the moment
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and experience this world. I love their quote and I think
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your work of Mayor of East Towne.
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A really just takes that quote and runs all the way home with
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it, because the costume design for mayor of East Town is
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brilliant. And it's brilliant because it
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makes you feel like you're in this world.
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Like we were talking about. It's so incredibly.
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Authentic. It really captures the
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small-town, Pennsylvania feel. Can you first start by speaking
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to your approaching costuming? This authentic world was still
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holding to your Creative Touch sure.
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I wanted it was very important that all of the costumes really
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looked authentic and that they look lived in that, you know may
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person picked it up off the floor and you know smell them on
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and was like, oh, it's fine today.
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I can wear it one more time. It's the opposite of house,
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fashion moments, like eyes career work.
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Came with Patricia fields and it's like almost the opposite of
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the way presented. Yes.
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It's like night and day. Yeah, that's amazing.
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Business person, and she's really an amazing costume
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designer because she does think about the characters this
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specific show was really meant to be.
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Okay, who are these characters? What are their job?
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What are their sort of their professions?
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What are they doing? Are they going from work to
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their kids soccer game to cooking dinner at home, too?
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In the homework, with the kids to pay the bills.
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At night. It was really like, overall,
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what happens in a day to these people and they don't change
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their clothes. There's no like refinery29 day
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tonight, man. Taking our business.
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You know, what am I looking? Like, when I take this top off
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and change something? It was really about how lived
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and can we make the characters totally.
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Also, I live in New York and coming from that area.
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I was like, it's nothing needs to look cool.
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Like, no one's getting Rest except maybe the teenagers to be
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a little bit. Cool.
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It's more about functionality and I wanted to make sure that I
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was really making these characters.
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Look exactly like the community. I grew up in a suburb, Michigan
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and suburb of Grand Rapids and some of my aunts and uncles live
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on the west side of the Grand Rapids, which is more of like a
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little bit more Blue Collar. When I interviewed with Brett
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angles, be the writer. I use the number of my aunts and
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uncles photos that And in that area to kind of show, it'll kind
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of blue color aspect. But then when I got to
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Pennsylvania, and I asked him, if there's all these suburbs and
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Pennsylvania, like, where's this family living?
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Because it was considered like a fictitious town.
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Where are they living? Like what city?
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You know, what? Like little suburb.
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Should I go to? And he said, Coatesville and
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Aston. So, I just now, very famously
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known. I went to a Wawa multiple
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Wawa's, and I sat in the parking lot for like a couple of hours.
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Hours. And then I went into the Wawa
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and I just like observed people and like what they were wearing
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and you know, they would come in and number of people they don't
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have handbags or describing in their pocket and like paying him
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there and you're ordering your sandwich from the from the
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hoagie counter. And how are they buying like
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sodas out of the refrigerator? They getting a fountain soda,
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like I just really observed as much of that as possible and
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then I went to like local restaurants and I went to like
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the local hardware store just to kind of see what people are
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wearing. So it really got Feel for the
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area. So our co-host on the Blonde
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cast is actually from Pennsylvania.
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And when I was researching for this interview, I called her and
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I said, what in the hell is a Wawa?
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And why is it costing the sign you're doing research there and
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she freaked out. She was like she was out of
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where I think this is such a fun story.
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It's kind of like a 7-Eleven. It's like you could.
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But it's amazing because you can get like a hoagie sandwich is
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salad, and they like make it right there in front of you.
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Almost like Like a Subway in a way.
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And then, it has gas station. But like, like, I spoke to
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someone yesterday and I like my brother-in-law lives and
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Philadelphia. And he goes to Allah every
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morning tea coffee. So it's kind of like us looks a
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sandwich shop in gas all in one. And it looks like it's really
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like a cultural phenomena of Philadelphia.
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It's like a 7-Eleven. So, when you were there, where
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you taking like a mental photos of people, just so you could
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present all this at some point building, like a database of
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people. Yes, I was mostly like ingrained
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in my mind. I didn't take a lot of
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photographs because I was like, I don't really want to like
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yeah, I was in my car a little bit and then I went like, went
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inside. But yeah, I was taking like a
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mental note of everything that was happening in the whole.
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Like every I was there in the August is my started.
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We Ivory films like pre covid and then post going back to work
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during covid. So it was just like, very now,
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I'd like don't even remember what I think I started.
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In an August, but yet everybody was in sweatpants.
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Like everyone was in sweatpants and then shower, slides like
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Adidas sugar. These are my people.
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I need to move here. Yeah, honestly, like, I really
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enjoyed Philadelphia. I had a great time there.
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Amazing. So we have to talk about
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costuming. Kate Winslet.
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When I was first thinking about this.
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What a challenge would be to transform.
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Kate Winslet in to marry, because Kate Winslet is so
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already recognizable. And you have the Maker must come
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off as a whole different person in a way.
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Can you just can't talk about the task of costuming Mayor?
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Yeah. I had spoken with Kate prior to
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her coming and I sent her some like mood boards and whatnot.
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And my first real question to her was like how far are you
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willing to go like with this character?
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Because Kate Winslet is absolutely stunning.
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Has the most like luminous skin and I was like, oh my gosh, how
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do we make her look a little bit more like lived in a way.
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Way, so Kate was great. She's like, oh, I'm all in the
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wig. Is going to have like two inch
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roots and her hair and makeup person.
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Ivana is like genius, and Kate has a very distinct eyebrow and
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they laid in additional little teeny hairs.
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So it looked like she didn't have that has high above our
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just she does, you know, because her eyebrows so dominant.
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But like when she didn't have the menu could like you could
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tell but yes, she was like totally all in and it was
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amazing. So Did two big fittings when she
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first got to Pennsylvania and pretty much after that second
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fitting were like, oh, we're moving in the right direction.
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And after like the I would say after the camera test in the
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first week of filming. It was like I totally have it.
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Like we know where we're going through the whole series.
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And one thing that was very important to me is that to make
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sure that just like most people you wear the same few pairs of
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jeans coat. You wear the same few handful of
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Shoes, it was very important to me that this is a woman who
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would maybe buy new clothes when she like felt it was necessary,
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but it's going to be like a jeans and a t-shirt situation.
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She's had the same jacket for a long time.
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She wears a Filson jacket for the first or five episodes.
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And so it was important that that was like her detective
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jacket that was like almost like her suit of armor, but the
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details of like a very adamantly did not want her to have a purse
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or handbag. I didn't want her to carry.
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A lot of stuff, her car was kind of like her person away her car
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and they could coat had Pockets because it's like, she was in
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and out of places so much and being a New Yorker, that you're
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on the subway. You go into a store, you go into
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your house. You're like constantly hot cold,
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hot cold. I wanted her to be able to take
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layers on, and off easily. So that's why the Filson jacket
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isn't super we filmed in the winter.
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So it wasn't like super really, really warm, but she wears
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another like fleece underneath it.
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And then it's just about like Layering so that was ideal and
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like, he too, like, developing this character.
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And that everything the entire color palette.
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I was like, oh my gosh, everyone is so drought like it's so
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drafty. I know reality.
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These are the colors that seeing unless it's like a teenager or a
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child and that there's pops of color except for like the sports
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paraphernalia, that you'll see. So it's very important to kind
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of keep that like a muted tone. I am obsessed with this.
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You Works on multiple films that have real superhero energy like
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Watchman The Dark Knight Rises, Amazing Spider-Man 2, so it's so
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funny when we're looking at Mary's town.
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It's almost like you created mare almost in her own kind of
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superhero outfit which is like this jacket and the layering and
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the fleece. It's like her own kind of like
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superhero uniform in a very contemporary way.
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It was meant to be like, kind of her protective layer and she
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always kind of had it with her. And at one point Kate was like,
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should we change the jack? Beckett and I was I was like,
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please no, like there's a whole point to her wearing this until
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she's shot and then we can change the jacket because now
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that jackets now that Phyllis and Rockets gone, so it was very
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intentional. Also, there's a little bit more
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life in the blue jacket. That's on the bottom left.
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You can't tell it's blue because it's soaking wet, but it is kind
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of a Periwinkle cornflower blue color, but all the clothes, had
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some aging done to it or like a really washed and looks and
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nothing looked like, Of the package right there.
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Was there a lot of aging and dying that went into this
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project? Yes.
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I had a full-time major and dire that he was just constantly like
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over dying and putting like low lights and for except it's hard
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to see but on her Filson jacket that's in the top right corner.
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There's like a leather patch right here on the shoulders and
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all in that shoulder that's like all age because it was actually
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a much brighter color when we first got the jacket as we
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needed. So many of them that Was that
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was aged a lot and a lot of her stuff was new and then aged she
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did have some thrifted stuff. But predominantly it was like
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newer because we needed to have like stunts and stuff like that.
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So for a few things but I mean Kate so game she can pretty much
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do anything and she was like running around and chasing
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everyone, you know, doing the chance.
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She's amazing. It was so amazing.
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So you talked about it a little bit.
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How collaborative were you with the actors or should I say how
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collaborative or two actors with you when it came?
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Acosta, me mayor of Easton K2 super collaborative.
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I mean really all the actors were very collaborative in the
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sense of working working with me to kind of get there.
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Kate's amazing. And it was like a discussion all
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the time and we were constantly, you know, once we got it, if we
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needed a new like they added a new script day or like, oh, we
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she had, like, I think it was like 47 to 52.
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I can't remember how many changes, but she had like so
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many changes Kate. Wow, once we got really the The
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base. It was just like on the day like
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hey, we have this, here's our layers that.
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We always, where do we want to change up a t-shirt or
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sweatshirt? Ooh.
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Whatnot. Because we had kind of a closet
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for Julian Nicholson. She's also so amazing.
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Like she was super collaborative and I had the first fitting and
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it is always a challenge to know how far some of the actors will
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go as far as like making them not shine their, you know, their
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best, look, their best hair, their best skin and really do.
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You know, transform because this whole thing was storytelling and
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telling the story of these characters in this specific
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area. Everyone was really great about
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like going for it. And so, Julian was amazing.
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And I had most of her clothes were thrifted like a number of
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them. The Dave Matthews t-shirt was
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scripted. And so I just basically was
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like, okay, when would this t-shirt be from?
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How old would she have been when she saw this concert, you know,
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and I went back to those. Years to get the shirt, but she
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was just like a lot of the sweaters and stuff and she's
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like, oh, this is great. Like it's really drab.
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I'd love more of this type of sweater.
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I had a few new things in there for her and she was like, I love
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how this like this water goes over.
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My hand is really been stretched out.
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And so all of those details, a stretched-out sweater a stain on
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the sweatshirt, maybe like a burn, and like Dylan's jacket,
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like all of those little things were put into it.
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I love that. It is totally like the little
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details that really made this. So come to life like you said,
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like even like a stretched-out sweater makes all the difference
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on some of these characters and I just want to ask you to.
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I was obsessed of all like the band T-shirts that concert
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t-shirts, all the graphic. Tees.
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I need this Spyro t-shirt that they're wearing a top, right?
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I thought that was so cool. Can you just talk about the
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graphic? Tees everyone.
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I meet this Earth so good. I can't remember about it from
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like hot. Topic or something like that.
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Like, really in Philadelphia. There's a lot of malls.
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And so for the teenagers I did a mix of like, thrifting and then
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mall mall buys, but for the teenagers that have Bob, like
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the band and stuff that have all the logos.
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So, it was very important to me that we show is much like local
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like Talent, local coffee, shop fire station, like anything
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local. It was really important to me
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because as I was like going around Everybody had on like a
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logo shirt, a logo sports team. Like it was everywhere.
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So I had a local Shopper and she what I've said to her like her
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first week. I was like, okay, here's what
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the story is here is all of like the mood boards inspiration.
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I need you to go to Every local place that you can think of and
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I want local bands. Local record store, or local
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coffee shop, fire station, like anything local please get And
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have them sign a release, and we'll put it in the show, and I
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think we have like 20 to 25, different, local places.
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And then, on top of all the Philly, flyers and gritty and
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like eat the Eagles and something, all the sports teams.
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So that was like, one thing I really wanted to have and she
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did an amazing job. And so, we got to Pepper that
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all in. That's wonderful.
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I love that, that that happened. So let's get into some specific
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characters. First.
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I want to talk about Siobhan. I loved her costumes, because
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she kind of felt like the fashionable.
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And then the show, see I love all of her costumes, all her
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outfits, felt very put together and it felt like they
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represented contemporary Trends in a way translated into this
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East Town environment. So, what was your idea behind
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Siobhan's looks? I wanted her to be almost like
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she's advancing from the family me.
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Like she didn't want to be like, I don't want to say like stuck
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with her family, but she like, as a teenager, you you a lot of
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times follow Trends or you follow the quraíanic.
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Crowd and I wanted her to be slightly different, but also
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someone who's like little bit more thinking a little bit, big
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city or otherworldly or like, not just small town.
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So I had the idea of just like, layering her up and just mixing
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prints and patterns and textures.
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I love texture. So it's a matter of like
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layering that and proceed looks, we started doing like a
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turtleneck with like layers and it just kind of work.
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That's where swarmed. And then my one of my costumers
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that Care of the actors on set. She was a ton of jewelry always
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layers, like necklaces and rings and everything, and I thought,
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oh, that could be like really great for Siobhan, just to show
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her personality who she is. So I took that and added like
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that's how I added a lot of layers.
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But when I'm Gary who placed upon came in, she had hair like
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a little bit longer than mine. Oh, well.
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Shaniqua. Who's the hair the lead hair?
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She was like, I'm going to give her this haircut and I'm like,
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if you can get an actress to shave the side of her head and
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do that haircut. I'm all about it.
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So we fit on gauri in the costumes, for her first fitting.
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And I was like, I mean, we need the help, we need a haircut
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because I'm Godfrey is like so sweet and so lovely.
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But she's like a girly girl and I was like Siobhan's not a girly
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girl. You're going to have to get over
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that and it's like, oh, I could be pretty and I was like, she's
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not pretty, she's like, she's going places and she's not
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thinking about pretty. She's like going into it with a
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different attitude as soon as Shaniqua cut her hair.
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She translated into this character.
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It was all everything that on her.
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We put back on her and instantly like all the costumes were
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approved because the hair really transformed look, so Chic and I
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worked really closely together on that and also, some of the
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other characters. So it's fantastic.
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Oh my gosh, I love that so much. And yeah, I'm so glad you
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mentioned a jewelry because every single time, I was like,
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oh my gosh, I love that necklace.
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Or I love the earrings. She's wearing if all came
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together so beautifully and the haircut.
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I'm so glad that it happened. I cannot imagine like the long
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care. Savannah in a rock band.
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I love that story. So then the next character I
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need to talk about is detectives able and he's a county detective
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known for a recently, solving a nearby Cold Case, and he's kind
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of brought in from the outside to help mayor.
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I feel like because he's brought in from outside.
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He's a little bit different, from everyone else, who's in the
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area. Can we maybe talk to szabo's
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outfits? Yeah, so And I had kind of a
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different thought of the look when he first came to
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Pennsylvania and we tried it on them and like, Evan and I really
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kind of liked it, but Jonah to brag.
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He thought, oh, that's like cool breads.
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Like the writer is like the sweetest guy.
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You'll ever meet. Like how he wrote that?
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No idea. He's so sweet and nice.
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But like, I don't know if it really looks like the guys from
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here and I thought, you know, that's a really good point.
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Maybe we're making Evan too much of a character instead of Owing
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who this guy is? So we went back and I like
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looked at a number of people and I thought you know what, he just
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needs to be in a very simple suit, that's just one step above
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what the other detectives other men would wear.
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Not too fancy, but still kind of looking good.
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So people are kind of like recognizing him, recognizing him
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as kind of like this Hotshot detective when in actuality.
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He had his own secret of hiding that he like didn't really solve
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the previous case. So he was actually Playing into
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the role that he was trying to perceive or put out there.
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I love by day or think about that until you said that just
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happened and I love the blue color palette you developed for
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him. Also.
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I've noticed a lot of Blues a lot of Gray's it's trying to
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keep it that it looked nice and flattering, but I feel like that
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standard active like in a small town is like a bad sports jacket
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and a white shirt and a pad thai and it's like well, he know he
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can still kind of try to look a little A bit nicer.
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So just kept it really, really simple and it just kind of
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worked for him. I love it.
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So now, finally, we have to talk about one of my favorite
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characters played by Jean Smart Helen, such a fun hilarious
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character. What I notice about her, which I
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thought was so interesting. I want to talk to you about it,
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but she's like, one of the characters who really wears a
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lot of color and a lot of prints compared to everyone else.
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I mean, it's not like she's wearing neon pink, but she's
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actually wearing some Oranges and yellows even her drinks or
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colorful, which I thought was fun.
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So can we just go into Helens looks but also to color palates
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used. Yes.
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So I worked with Gene on Watchman.
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And so she had like a much more serious look, so when I did
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Watchman, right before doing mayor, so, when we went to
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Mayor, I thought okay, how am I going to transform Gene and make
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her look different. And I kind of thought to those
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my grandmother and my grandmother has looked probably
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Oddly the same for the past like 30 years like she's had the same
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hairstyle, the same, not the same clothes for 30 years, but I
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always perceived her growing up as always being like kind of the
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same thing. But with jeans she wanted to be.
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She's like, I think I'll always have the she would always have
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the same hairstyle but let's bring in like she still has hope
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for the family. Like she's given up on the
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family. Like Mary's kind of given up a
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little bit and Siobhan is just thinking of like kind of We'll
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be paying homage to her family and being there for her family.
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But like, what's next in her life.
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So Gene is going to be our Helen is going to be the constant.
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They're always there to help but I also wanted I went to like TJ
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Maxx and I was like, she shops at t.j.
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Maxx or she shot that type of size and she's getting what she
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finds is like the nice shirt. All a lot of those shirts are
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either like Ray blue or black or their prints.
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So I was like, oh she's definitely going to print she
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wears. Like, pretty much exclusively.
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Where is like a nice sweat pant. And she work occurs.
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Like her. Indoor shoes are Skechers her
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outdoor. She's her Skechers.
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Jean came in and did the fitting we were like, oh, there's like
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some good things here. This is kind of working for the
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initial fitting and she was like, it's just missing
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something and I was like, I totally agree with you.
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I just can't put my finger on like what it is at the moment.
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And she said, what if she has a butt because Gene is like a Slim
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like glamazon, like she's a very slim figure, like beautiful
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woman and I thought, oh, we could make her pear-shaped.
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We could make Helen pear shape, and it just that little fill out
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in those sweatpants really made her a day.
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And then the hair made her a different character and into the
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character of Helen, so, it was really great.
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I just remembered you did an interview recently and you talk
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about creating hip pads for Helen.
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Yeah. So we so I gave her a little
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big, but And then put hips on the side.
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So she became pear-shaped. That's really I love this scene
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has like, the longest glamazon legs like very slim.
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Like, she's as, I mean, you see your own hacks.
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It's like a completely different character that on it though.
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Right? Right, so I can try, but I love
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that so much those so funny. Well, that is it for us.
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I love talking with you so much. I feel like going to be watching
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the show now. Thank you so much for joining
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me. Megan, and congratulations on
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all the success of the show. I'm so happy for you.
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Thank you very much and taking the time to speak with me, and
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thank you so much and congratulations.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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