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UK Column News - 24th September 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. It's Wednesday the 24th of
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September, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
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I'm your host Mike Robinson, joining me live by Livelink.
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Today we have the UK columns, Charles Mallett and journalist
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and peace campaigner Vanessa Bailey.
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Welcome to the program, both Now, later in the program,
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Vanessa's going to have the latest from Lebanon.
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I'm going to covering the recognition of Palestine by the
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United Kingdom and others. And Charles is going to be
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reporting on connections between the migrant issue in the UK and
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digital ID. But we're sadly going to have to
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begin with the United Nations General Assembly, because
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yesterday Donald Trump spoke at the UNGA.
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It was mostly pretty obscene, actually.
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He began by blowing his own trumpet, if you know what I
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mean. And he was basically telling us
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all what a wonderful person he is.
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He stopped 7 wars, you know, and personally he stopped them.
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He deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, but that's not why he's doing
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it. He's doing it.
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He's stopping all the wars to save lives, except in Gaza, of
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course. He's heavily, he heavily
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criticized the United Nations. And we can discuss this later,
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but perhaps with some justification.
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But he didn't mention systematic breaches of international law by
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the US, the UK, the EU and Israel over the years.
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He was, however, very upset that the United Nations didn't give
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him $500 million to rebuild the UN building a number of years
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ago. That was very upsetting to him.
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He would have provided marble floors for that money.
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Instead, they spent billions and only got Toronto.
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So there you go. The speech lasted 57 minutes.
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It could have been delivered in five to seven minutes instead,
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because he was constantly repeating himself and migration
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in net zero policy was the crux of it.
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Now in in fairness to him, he did make a couple of valid
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points. And the net zero point I think
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Charles will be covering in a minute was pretty much on the
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money as far as I was concerned at least.
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But there was also this on on Ukraine and specifically on the
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EU, which I think is is going to be an interesting, it's an
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interesting comment that he makes here.
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Let's have a listen to this. This war would never have
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started if I were president. This was a war that should have
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never happened. It shows you what leadership is,
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what bad leadership can do to a country.
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Look what happened to the United States and look where we are
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right now in just a short period of time.
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The only question now is how many more lives will be
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needlessly lost on both sides. China and India are the primary
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funders of the ongoing war by continuing to purchase Russian
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oil. But inexcusably, even NATO
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countries have not cut off much Russian energy and Russian
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energy products, which, as you know, I found out about two
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weeks ago and I wasn't happy. Think of it.
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They're funding the war against themselves.
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Who the hell ever heard of that one?
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In the event that Russia is not ready to make a deal to end the
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war, then the United States is fully prepared to impose a very
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strong round of powerful tariffs, which would stop the
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bloodshed, I believe, very quickly.
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But for those tariffs to be effective, European nations, all
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of you are gathered here right now, would have to join us in
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adopting the exact same measures.
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I mean, you're much closer to the city.
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We have an ocean in between. You're right there.
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And Europe has to step it up. They can't be doing what they're
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doing. They're buying oil and gas from
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Russia while they're fighting Russia.
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It's embarrassing to them. And it was very embarrassing to
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them when I found out about it, I can tell you that.
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But they have to immediately cease all energy purchases from
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Russia, otherwise we're all wasting a lot of time.
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So Vanessa, maybe I could get a comment from you on that.
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What? What did you what did you think
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of that particular comment from him?
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I can't, I mean, I don't know, I'm just speechless.
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I, you were better than me and the fact that you sat through
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the entire speech, but I mean, he's, he's just borderline
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insane. I, I don't know.
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I really, I honestly don't know what to say other than life has
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just become a theatre of the ridiculous as far as I'm
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concerned. Is that would you, would you
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agree with that, Charles? Good afternoon, Mike and
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Vanessa, and good afternoon all to a point.
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Although what I would say, and this is not necessarily to slap
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him on the back, but it is to acknowledge that he is an
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absolute master at scoring points where they are readily
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there to be taken. And I think that's really what
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he demonstrates. OK, as you say, he certainly
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took his time to do it. An awful lot of repetition and
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congratulating himself for stuff that he probably hasn't achieved
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and won't achieve, but never let that get in the way of a good
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story. So I I think insofar as he fires
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the popular imagination, this in in some ways is a masterstroke
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because he has so many of these sorts of catchphrases that can
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be pulled out and shoved around the world on the Internet,
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social media and all the rest of it for time immemorial.
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Yeah, well, absolutely. But what was he talking about?
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He was talking about energy and net zero policy.
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He was and and in a way, this was a a revisit of what he was
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bashing Keir Starmer over the head with on his previous visit.
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So not the state visit, but when he was in the UK in the summer,
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he had a very awkward press conference with Keir Starmer up
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in Scotland, in fact, on one of his own golf courses.
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And one of the things that he likes to talk about.
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And again, going back to your point of finding it hard to
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disagree with this sort of thing, he puts out just enough
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truth to engage a certain percentage of the population,
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but also to set absolutely an equal and opposite force against
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him. But we'll just listen to what he
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had to say specifically on the idea of renewable.
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We're getting rid of the falsely named renewables, by the way.
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They're a joke. They don't work.
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They're too expensive. They're not strong enough to
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fire up the plants that you need to make your country great.
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The wind doesn't blow. Those big windmills are so
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pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate, and they
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have to be rebuilt all the time and they start to rust and rot.
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Most expensive energy ever conceived.
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And it's actually energy. You're supposed to make money
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with energy, not lose money. You lose money.
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The governments have to subsidize.
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You can't put them out without massive subsidies and most of
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them are built in China. And I give China a lot of
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credit. They build them, but they very
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few wind farms. So why is it that they build
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them and they send them all over the world, but they barely use
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them? You know what they use?
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Coal, they use gas, they use almost anything, but they don't
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like wind. But they sure as hell like
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selling the windmills. Europe, on the other hand, is a
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long way to go, with many countries being on the brink of
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destruction because of the green energy agenda, and I give.
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So again, what he said can absolutely be found with the
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basis in fact. But the point is that it's
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Donald Trump saying it. And since the the climate
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alarmism lobby is well set against him for a whole host of
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other ideological reasons, this in in some ways does actually
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play into the renewable scam as he describes it.
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So one has to be very careful when considering any information
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that's put out by Donald Trump in particular, because he is
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such a divisive figure. And with that in mind, we'll
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just go now to what he said about the the supposed basis,
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the scientific basis for the pursuit of renewable and indeed
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net zero in the first place, IE climate change.
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And I hope the Prime Minister is listening because I told it to
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him three days in a row, that's all he heard.
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North Sea oil. North Sea.
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Because I want to see them do well.
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I want to stop seeing them ruining that beautiful Scottish
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and English countryside with windmills and massive solar
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panels that go 7 miles by 7 miles, taking away farmland.
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But we're not letting this happen in America.
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In 1982, the executive director of the United Nations
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Environmental Program predicted that by the year 2000, climate
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change would cause a global catastrophe.
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He said that it will be irreversible, as any nuclear
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Holocaust would be. This is what they said at the
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United Nations. What happened?
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Here we are. Another UN official stated in
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1989 that within a decade, entire nations could be wiped
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off the map by global warming. Not happening.
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You know, it used to be global cooling.
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If you look back years ago in the 1920s and the 1930s, they
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said global cooling will kill the world.
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We have to do something. Then they said global warming
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will kill the world. But then it started getting
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cooler. So now they could just call it
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climate change because that way they can't miss climate change
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because if it goes higher or lower, whatever the hell
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happens. This climate change, it's the
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greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my
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opinion. Climate change, no matter what
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happens, you're involved in that.
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Now whether those are his actual thoughts or not is beside the
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point, but they do do exactly what they're designed to do,
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which is to polarize and give people exactly as he
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articulates. Give people the feeling of
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helplessness because of this fundamental problem.
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Either because you believe that the climate is boiling or
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whatever it's supposed to be doing, or you know that it's
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complete nonsense and you're seeing all the taxpayers money
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go into destroying the landscape in the name of apparently
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protecting it. But with that in mind, we should
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consider an announcement, for example, by Defra, which has
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just gone out about the water consumption and we see, you
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know, a way to apparently reduce bills.
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But of course, actually it doesn't deal with the
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possibility that one might take control of 1's own water supply.
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And this is something I've talked about with regard to
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mosquitoes and how colonial administrations dealt with it.
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And from the erstwhile Public Health England, we go back to
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2018 to look at their policy on mosquitoes in the garden and
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indeed a specific bit about the storage of water and how that
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presents a hazard. And of course, in these days of
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bio security, it's very easy to see how that could be jacked up
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into something that creates much more fear.
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And just to draw this out and conclude it, I will just remind
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you that the Planning and Infrastructure Bill, which is
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going through Parliament at contains absolutely no provision
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whatsoever for the harvesting of water in the new development or
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development of housing, either individually or collectively.
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Which means that there will be a constant push to surrender water
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for AI and data centres, but never ever to take control of it
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yourself. Yeah, Charles, thank you very
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much for that. Now, Vanessa, Trump obviously
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was grabbing the headlines yesterday at the UNGA, but he
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wasn't the only thing that was going on there.
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And for the last couple of days, Gilani, in fact, was making an
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appearance. So what happened there?
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Yes, well, apparently the first Syrian President to attend the
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UNGA in New York for almost 6 decades.
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The fact that he's an unelected president, he's formerly ISIS
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and Al Qaeda had a bounty of 10 million on his head and
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according to the establishment narratives, his group was
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responsible for the twin towers. So quite extraordinary that he's
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seen arriving and receiving red carpet treatment while in fact
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back in Syria, the massacres continue.
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The following video is of the current wildfires that have been
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raging for the last three days across Wadi Nasara, which is
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basically translated as the Valley of the Christians, which
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is an area to the South of Homs. Beautiful area where historic
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churches and and cultural edifices and and infrastructure
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are now in danger of being destroyed.
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And of course, what we're hearing are reports from inside
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Syria that HDS themselves started the fires by dropping
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the thermal incendiary bombs by drones, just as they've done
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previously in Latakia, according to reports from people on the
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coast, of course, majority Alawites that have been
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ethnically cleansed since Geolani came to power.
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And here we have some pretty dreadful footage of Geolani
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arriving at the UNGA, the bustle of bodyguards around all of them
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looking extremely tack fairy like to me.
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And he arrives with full pomp and ceremony, you know, touching
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his hand to his heart as if he has one.
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While he enters the UNGA. He met with Marco Rubio, of
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course, Trump's point man in the Middle East, along with many
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others, of course, and one of the priorities of their
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discussion is the security agreement between Israel and
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Syria. That, of course, is one of the
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tasks that Jolani was given once he came to power by the US and
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the entire Zionist bloc. A special event which I haven't
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had the stomach to watch yet but I will do was for the Middle
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East Institute to host Jolani and none other than Charles
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Lister. Of course.
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Charles Lister, a member of the Mei who invented the 70,000
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moderate rebels. The the the narrative that was
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picked up at the time by David Cameron to excuse the funding of
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the terrorist groups in Syria to bring down the former Syrian
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government. And then of course, he had an A
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very friendly chat with ex CIA chief General Petraeus, who
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hails the former al Qaeda leader for clear vision in Syria.
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I'm not quite sure how these people can utter such phrases
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when an ongoing massacre of the Syrian people is occurring from
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north to South under Jolani's unelected Takfiri regime.
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But let's have a reminder also of Petraeus's role himself in
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the downfall of Syria. Seymour Hersh Petraeus
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established a rat line between Libya and Syria to send weapons
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to the Nusra Front, which of course, is al Qaeda.
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The the group that was founded not only by Jelani, but also by
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Asad al Shabani, who's the foreign minister also at the
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UNGA and other extremist groups seeking to topple the government
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of former Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
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They mentioned Timber Sycamore, of course, which was a budget of
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over 1 billion per year to given to around 500 moderate rebels,
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but ended up in the hands of ISIS by accident, of course.
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According to former French intelligence officer Thierry
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Maison, Petraeus continued to help fund al Qaeda groups,
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including ISIS, after he was forced to resign from the CIA in
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2012 after a sex scandal. I just want to show Petraeus
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introduction to Jolani, which is kind of, we were talking this
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morning, Mike, about the fact that these figures like
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Ambassador Robert Ford, who was responsible for much of the
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creation of the death squads, the Free Syrian Army in Syria,
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who was kind of squealing in delight over meeting with Jelani
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over the last few years, both in Adlib and then in Damascus in
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2025. And here we have Petraeus
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literally introducing him. But a reminder to people that
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rumours are that it was Petraeus himself who led the
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radicalization and and the indoctrination of Jelani while
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he was in prison in Iraq. So an interesting introduction
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from Petraeus here. Because the fact is that we were
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on different sides when I was commanding the surge in Iraq.
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You were, of course detained by U.S. forces for some five years,
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including again when I was the four-star there.
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And here you are now as the president of Syria.
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I'm not going to show anything of what Joelani actually says
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because it's total MI 6 Tony Blair speak.
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I mean, he says nothing different to the script that
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he's been given since December 2024.
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But in case people are worried here, Petraeus asks Joelani
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about his own personal mental health.
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So this next one is about you personally.
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How are you holding up under all this pressure?
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Are you getting time to do some thinking?
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Are you getting enough sleep at night again?
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I've been there and it is so very, very hard.
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And you're many fans and I am one of them.
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We do have worries. I mean, this is just grotesque.
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This man has was responsible for mass beheadings, executions,
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terrorist attacks in Iraq even before he came to Syria.
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And now he's responsible for the mass ethnic cleansing of
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minorities in Syria that are not meant, that are barely mentioned
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in the entire interview. And, and I don't know, I mean, I
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would love people's comments, but I just find this absolutely
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abhorrent that he's being fated to such a degree and that
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allegedly he's in among friends and allies.
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Well, what does that tell you about the US regime, successive
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regimes that have supported the breakdown of Syria and the
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destruction of the people of Syria?
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Charles, let's ask for your thoughts on that.
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I think that engagement between Gilani and Petraeus has to be
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one of the most extraordinary things that I've seen in recent
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times, and it should cause anybody believing themselves to
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be on either side to call into question absolutely everything
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they thought they believed or stood for it.
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It makes a total mockery of everything Petraeus has
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supposedly done in his career or what he should have done it for.
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And exactly the same should be said of Jelani.
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I mean, it dispels any sense of doubt that this entire narrative
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and situation is driven by forces out of sight that we are.
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Apparently never told about Absolutely extraordinary.
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The only thing I would add on UK column content is there's a very
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good interview on the website with Michael Yon.
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Ben Rubin interviewing Michael Yon, it's called Who Runs the
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Jungle and Yon gives a very interesting anecdote about
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bumping into Petraeus who he knows at an airport.
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So please go and listen to that interview.
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Thank you, Charles. OK, let's move on.
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So tonight we're rerunning the interview that he did with
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Andrew Wakefield. So that starts at 7:00 PM and
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tomorrow, well, I'm going to be speaking to Vanessa at 1:00 PM.
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Very briefly, Just tell us a little bit about this.
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Well, I think it's just a very open discussion that we had,
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Mike, about the way that the sectarian divisions are going to
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be weaponized against Western populations, having historically
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Yes, thank you for that. And so that will go out at 1:00
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PM on the live stream tomorrow. So join us for that.
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I just want to remind everybody of the interview that went out
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yesterday at 1:00 PM with Andrea Clarich.
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So I was speaking to Andrea about engagement with people in
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Croatia on issues as such as such as migration, digital
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IDCDBC, censorship, attitudes to the war narrative.
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And we also discuss what appeared to be attempts to
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recreate tensions which led to the war with Serbia in the
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1990s. So if you didn't see that
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yesterday, we've had some really good feedback on that.
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Please do join us for that or get on the website and watch
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that. And Charles, then the Food and
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Health Festival. Yes, this is being run in
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Edinburgh by Common Knowledge Edinburgh this Sunday the 28th
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of September. I will be there speaking, Diane
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will also be there, and it will be a very wide-ranging day
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considering all factors pertaining to your control of
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food and health. And Charles, just remind us of
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the 1000 Words podcast just before we show the little
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trailer trailer. The yeah, Thousand Word Podcast
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is something that's coming to UK column.
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We're absolutely delighted that it is.
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It involves Jake Fern, the portrait artist, interviewing
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whilst he paints the portrait of the subject.
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And he's had tremendous success with it to date.
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And it just gives a fascinating insight into somebody that a
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different interview technique doesn't quite capture.
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And it's it's a really, really interesting way of engaging with
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the with the subject and indeed a or painting to look at at the
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Watch Katie Jo Murphy, Co founder of Hope Sussex, sit for
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everything. First episode airs this weekend
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on UK column. And Charles, correct me if I'm
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wrong, that's 7:00 PM on Sunday. Correct.
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Absolutely it is. Yeah, OK.
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Thank you. OK, let's come back to the UN
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General Assembly and well, Yvette Cooper, our illustrious
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new foreign Secretary, was speaking.
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Let's have a listen to what she said.
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I stand before you today, beneath the emblem of the United
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Nations, to confirm the historic decision of the British
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Government to recognise the state of Palestine.
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This step, alongside friends and partners, reflects a long
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standing truth that statehood is the inalienable right of the
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Palestinian people and the two states is the only path to
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security and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike.
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But recognition must be a spur, not a substitute for urgent
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action, A ceasefire now, the release of all hostages, the
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restoration of aid and a lasting framework for peace.
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Recognition is about the future, but it is rooted in our past. 75
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years ago, Britain was rightly proud to recognize the state of
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Israel, but the promise of upholding Palestinian rights has
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gone unfulfilled. For decades, my country
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supported A2 state solution, but only recognized one state.
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That changes now as we join more than 150 Member States in
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recognizing the State of Palestine and protecting the
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pathway to peace. Now I'm sure we can talk about
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this in extra and so on, but for me that whole thing was complete
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nonsense. It changes nothing.
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The Starmer regime has not made any statement or taken any
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action to actually pressure Israel into stopping the
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genocide. They haven't prevented a single
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bullet from being shipped from to Israel from this country.
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Now also on Monday Keir Starmer put out an ex post wishing the
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Jewish people, the Jewish community a happy new year.
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This was the the tweet that he pushed out and well this
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resulted in over 4000 comments. Now let's just have a look at a
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few of those. So to go gaslight someone else.
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Hypocrite, He was told you don't get to bless us for the new year
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after embracing the Palestinian Authority that pays the salaries
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of Jews murders and then he's more and more commentary on
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this. You're quite literally the
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second coming of Neville Chamberlain is in this new year.
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May the Lord strike you and you're disgusting, inept and
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corrupt party and call the general strike down you and
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you're disgusting inept party and corrupt party and call any
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general election. Sorry.
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The the strong language started coming out at that point.
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The insults against the Islamic community started coming out the
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from the river to the sea, but this time with the Israeli flag
27:22
really sort of suggesting the Greater Israel project and more
27:28
unpleasantness in the form of artwork and so on appearing on
27:32
here. So this was pretty unpleasant.
27:35
So the question is what did the recognition of Palestine achieve
27:40
in the meantime then Armed Forces Minister Alastair Cairns
27:44
has posted an opinion piece in the Daily Mail headlined British
27:49
veterans fought to bring peace and security to Northern
27:52
Ireland. Now they deserve a fair deal.
27:54
Now this is about the return of the investigations into British
27:59
military activity, British Army activity in Northern Ireland
28:01
during the so-called Troubles. This entire process, of course,
28:05
this investigation, the historical investigation is a
28:09
travesty because people on the Republican side were released
28:13
from prison under the so-called Good Friday Agreement with
28:16
letters of amnesty from Tony Blair.
28:17
While people serving in the British Army were have had to
28:23
endure decades of inquiry, criminal investigation and so
28:26
on. Now he currents attempts to wrap
28:29
this all up in words of reassurance for anyone that on
28:33
the receiving end of it, but the question then is what has been
28:36
the response to this in the comments?
28:39
So this is typical of it. The courts wouldn't allow an
28:43
asylum seeker to be deported to Kenya, but it's OK for soldiers
28:46
because of course part of this is them having to go back to
28:49
Belfast for hearings. 2 tier care don't care about our
28:53
heroes. He's a terrorist lover and so
28:56
on. So more of the same.
28:58
In other words, two tier care supporting terrorists and
29:02
etcetera. This is all both of these
29:05
situations in my opinion, and Vanessa might critique what I'm
29:09
saying here in a second, but this, in my opinion, is designed
29:13
to stir up these kinds of sentiments.
29:16
Everyone is supposed to feel outrage at it because Starmer
29:20
knows it. Aside from a few memes on X with
29:23
unpleasant words on them, none of the outrage is going to be
29:26
directed at him personally or even at his government when it
29:29
comes to the crunch. It's going to be directed at
29:33
people perceived to be on the left because the left right
29:36
split is something which is absolutely being amplified at
29:39
the moment. Or else some people who have
29:41
different coloured skin. But if we go back to his ex post
29:44
that we saw earlier and look at this this comment.
29:49
Sorry. So the comments section isn't
29:53
going as you hoped, said Arthur. Well, in fact, I believe it is
29:57
going exactly as he hoped. Because they say.
30:00
I believe that this was a pretty cynical attempt just to 'cause
30:04
this kind of outrage. Now, two weeks ago, around
30:09
1,000,000 people came out on Britain's streets, funded and
30:12
promoted by largely the Zionist lobby.
30:15
There was a counter demonstration, as Ben was
30:18
pointing out, on a previous news program which also seems to have
30:21
had Zionist interest behind it to a certain degree.
30:23
It's is it a surprise then that the same interests would be
30:27
supporting both sides of an engineered argument And, and the
30:32
question is, has this ever happened before now?
30:34
This is an article on John Waters sub Stack headlined how
30:38
British intelligence planned the Irish troubles of 68 to 98 and
30:42
used Provisional IRA fake patriots to achieve the
30:45
ruination of Ireland. I think this is important
30:48
because the ruination of England is exactly where this country is
30:52
at at the moment. And I would just ask the
30:55
question, what would happen if instead of coming out on the
30:58
streets and waving some flags that the million people or so
31:02
that were out a couple of weeks ago made a commitment instead to
31:06
stop paying tax? Would the regime take notice
31:09
then? Vanessa, this is obviously this
31:13
segment has been a bit of an opinion piece, but I'd just be
31:16
interested in your thoughts on it.
31:20
Well, I mean, it's kind of interesting.
31:22
I mean, Tom Barrack, who will get onto Trump's sort of envoy
31:26
to the Middle East, describe the whole operation of recognizing A
31:30
Palestinian state as useless. Those were his words and I was
31:34
thinking it was to appease the anti genocide protesters and and
31:41
so on after they've been victimizing Palestine action and
31:45
and all day pensioners who are coming out to to protest in
31:49
support of Palestine action, for example.
31:52
But now I'm actually wondering when you're showing those
31:54
responses to Starmer, if it's not also giving oxygen to the
32:00
Zionist victimhood, which is also something that they need to
32:04
be able to reinforce their 'cause as they further expand
32:10
their violence and their slaughter and their genocide,
32:12
not only of Palestinians, but also Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis,
32:15
Yemenis, etcetera. So I think there's two roles, as
32:19
you've rightly said. But I think on a local, national
32:21
level, yeah, it's all about stirring up hatred, sectarian
32:27
hatred again. Charles, just before we come on
32:30
to to your main segment here, have you got anything to add to
32:34
that? Well, I would, I mean, I would
32:38
absolutely agree with with what Vanessa says.
32:40
I think listening to Yvette Cooper, I mean, first of all,
32:43
sounds like she had taken elocution lessons before
32:45
delivering that speech and sort of searching for gravitas that
32:48
she never quite found. But it's it's as though she's
32:51
sort of saying that something was so clearly the case that the
32:54
unanswered question is, well, So what?
32:56
Why is it taken until now? Why, why now?
32:59
And also like a curve which needs flattening, A pathway to
33:03
peace remains incredibly sort of ill defined that, you know, what
33:07
is the end state and indeed what are the obstacles along the way
33:10
and how much does it cost in human life and money to actually
33:14
tread that apparent pathway to peace?
33:17
So it's just the latest confection in a in a sort of
33:21
barrage of nonsense, I'd say. Well, we were just talking about
33:25
the million people on the streets, of course, migration
33:28
being a key driver to encourage that activity.
33:32
So what are your thoughts on on that issue at the moment?
33:37
Well, I think specifically migration is only pushed out as
33:39
a problem in order that a solution may be divined.
33:43
And the the latest in the sort of summer narrative.
33:46
The latest chapter concerns the migrant arrested in Epping and
33:52
he has now just been convicted by Chelmsford Magistrates Court
33:56
and this is put up by the BBC who say that Epping Hotel asylum
34:00
seeker jailed for sex assaults. Now the point of the BBC article
34:04
really is to continue to fan the flames of division, helpless and
34:08
confusion and particularly they they go a bundle on confirming
34:12
the worst fears of people who do have concerns about this in that
34:16
it's the suggestion is that people who do come from other
34:19
countries have different standards and that that is
34:22
absolutely a well founded concern.
34:24
As though because he's Ethiopian, he didn't have any
34:27
understanding of how things work here.
34:29
In actual fact, of course, the age of consent in Ethiopia is 18
34:32
and he is reported as being a Christian.
34:36
So further confusion here about, you know, is this another sort
34:40
of dig at Christianity or a lot of language used deliberately to
34:47
confuse and conflate As to the trial itself.
34:50
And indeed the ruling handed down which has come from
34:53
Chelmsford Magistrates Court, point to note first of all that
34:56
these offences which are now shown on screen, attempted
34:58
sexual assault on a child aged 14 to incite or cause a child to
35:02
engage in sexual activity, sexual sexual assault on a
35:05
female twice two different people and harassment without
35:08
violence. Now they're all what's called
35:10
either way, tribal either way, which means they could have gone
35:13
to Crown Court, but actually they were retained by the
35:16
Magistrates Court, which means there was a maximum of 12 month
35:19
sentence. And a lot of people therefore
35:22
have been provoked into outcry saying was not, you know, not
35:26
nearly a strong enough sentence should have been much greater
35:30
and all the rest of it. Now, I can understand exactly
35:32
why those concerns would be there, but of course by limiting
35:36
it to the magistrate's court, meaning that the sentence was
35:38
only going to be that. And what one has to look at
35:40
really are the sentencing guidelines from the Sentencing
35:43
Council and they're shown on screen now.
35:46
And one has to determine the offence category, which of
35:48
course is done by two different categories, looking at the harms
35:52
and the culpability. And it's almost as though this
35:55
story has been cherry picked in order specifically to make it
35:59
look like nothing has been done because the threshold in every
36:03
single circumstance is not quite met.
36:06
Essex Police, of course, have reported on this as well, and
36:09
they bring out the points that there's also a five year sexual
36:12
harm prevention order being set against the man Hadosh Kabatou,
36:17
and also that he'd be on the sexual offences register for 10
36:20
years Now. The the point being missed here,
36:23
of course, is that because the UK, the Border Act 2007 has
36:29
qualifying criteria for automatic deportation.
36:32
The the length of the sentence and indeed any of the other
36:36
things that Essex Police are mentioning are should be
36:38
academic. And this is further reinforced
36:40
by the announcement made by the government just last month
36:44
concerning what they're calling immediate deportation.
36:47
He is now to be regarded as a foreign criminal stipulated by
36:50
the Border Act 2007, and indeed he has a sentence of at least 12
36:54
months. However, the Daily Mail
36:57
reporting here, of course, that now there might be a
37:00
counterclaim, effectively engaging the European Convention
37:04
on Human Rights in order that this is not going to lead to
37:08
deportation. Again, something that seems to
37:10
be deliberately put out in order to inflamed tensions.
37:13
And as a banner across the top of the Daily Mail piece, it's
37:17
shown on screen now it says breaking news, foreign criminals
37:20
are being given 2000 lbs when they leave the United Kingdom.
37:24
So there are just so many elements of this particular
37:27
story to suggest that the problem is in effect
37:33
insurmountable. And then we cast our mind back
37:35
to Operation Restoring Justice, which was something put on by
37:39
reform a short while ago in which they proposed to have a
37:43
plan for mass deportations. And part of that was to get out
37:48
of the European Convention on Human Rights and indeed to
37:50
repeal the Human Rights Act in 1988, which in effect would head
37:54
off exactly the situation that the male is forecasting.
37:58
So they're attempting to look strong, attempting to make the
38:01
case for there being a political solution to this has become a
38:05
key political background. But what's not to be forgotten
38:08
is that this always leads to exactly the same place.
38:12
And here we have Sarah Pochin, the Reform MP, talking about
38:16
where that place is. About what Chris Philp is now
38:20
saying the Shadow Home Secretary on ID cards.
38:23
What do you feel about ID cards, digital ID cards?
38:26
Is that something that Reform UK would support?
38:29
Well, look, I personally don't have a problem with an ID card.
38:32
You know, I, I don't see what the issue is.
38:34
Most of our ID, most of our information now is is is on our
38:38
smartphones anyway. Can.
38:40
We cross the system though. Well, what's more, how, how much
38:45
more could we be at risk? As I say, all of our information
38:49
is out there in a cloud, in the ether, whatever you want to call
38:52
it. So I can't sit here and say that
38:57
that is absolutely reform policy.
39:00
But what I can say is that of course, as a as one of the few
39:03
MPs at a time where Danny Krueger has just joined the
39:06
party and said that they're preparing for government and
39:08
there isn't of course an enormous public swing towards
39:11
reform. A political solution looks very
39:13
likely to include a digital ID. And of course, I just remind you
39:17
finally about Brit Card, which is the solution proposed by the
39:22
Labour Together think tank. And just to quote from that,
39:25
this is exactly matching the problem.
39:27
A million people live in the UK without permission to do so,
39:30
undermining the sense of Fair play.
39:32
And this is how Brit Card is, how mandatory universal national
39:35
identity credential can help Britain control illegal
39:38
migration and secure its borders.
39:39
Because of course we got the question of, well, what if
39:42
Kibatu is deported back to Ethiopia?
39:44
Well, lo and behold, we don't have an agreement with Ethiopia.
39:47
So there's another stumbling block.
39:49
But of course, if we had a digital identity, then we'd know
39:51
whether or not he was trying to come back or whether he was
39:53
still in the system. So what's being done about this?
39:57
Well, one thing just to point out is Big Brother's Big Brother
39:59
Watches campaign. Which they're entitling
40:02
Checkpoint Britain and they've just conduct had a survey
40:05
conducted by you Gov which was admittedly fairly small, only
40:08
just over 2000 respondents, all online, but overwhelmingly 63%
40:13
of people absolutely rejecting wholesale the idea of digital
40:16
ID. And finally they point you to a
40:18
petition they've started which has only attracted 100,000
40:21
signatures so far. But there'll be a link in the
40:23
show notes for you to take a look at that.
40:28
Charles, thank you very much for that.
40:29
Vanessa, let's come back to you and back to the Middle East.
40:33
Now you're obviously based in Lebanon, but what's how is the
40:37
pressure building there? Because obviously Lebanon still
40:41
has, you know, effectively Syria to the north and Israel to the
40:45
South. Yeah, to the east and the north
40:50
for Syria, of course, and Israel to the South.
40:53
And Israel in reality has increased its number of
40:56
occupation points in southern Lebanon to seven rather than 5
41:01
previously. And it conducts daily, if not
41:05
sort of morning, afternoon, evening attacks, either by drone
41:09
or by air strike on areas of southern Lebanon, but also the
41:13
eastern and northeastern areas of Lebanon perceived by them to
41:17
be Hezbollah strongholds. And on Sunday, I wanted to draw
41:21
attention to this attack, which was a drone attack on civilians
41:26
in Binchabel in the South. These are the children, Hadi and
41:30
Celine Shirora, who were killed in the attack, including their
41:34
father and their sister. And their mother and their other
41:37
sister are hospitalized in critical condition.
41:40
And a bystander, Mohammad Moore, was also killed in the strike.
41:45
This is the mother, Armani Bazi, here with the two children that
41:49
were murdered by Israel on Sunday in the attack.
41:52
And this is the mother at the funeral of the two children.
41:56
She was brought actually in her hospital bed to bid farewell to
42:01
to the children that were slaughtered by Israel
42:04
indiscriminately. And this is happening on a daily
42:07
basis. But interestingly, there was an
42:11
interview with Thomas Barack, who I've said is Trump's
42:15
basically his main man in the Middle East trying to push
42:18
through the normalization between Syria and Israel and in
42:22
Lebanon to dismantle and destroy the resistance against Israel.
42:28
What was extraordinary for me about this interview, and that's
42:32
why I've included a number of clips, is that he was incredibly
42:38
frank and honest whether he felt disarmed by the interviewer, who
42:42
I think was extremely good. But let's just hear what he how
42:47
he first of all describes himself.
42:52
And I'm, if you look at diplomacy and all of them are
42:55
much better than me because I'm not really a diplomat, right?
42:57
I'm like an event driven mercenary to get things done for
43:00
this president. Well, I couldn't really say it
43:05
better myself. I mean, he's an economic hitman.
43:07
He has links to corruption in the first Trump administration,
43:12
links to Epstein and and so on and so forth.
43:15
So he's certainly not a trustworthy individual, but
43:20
let's hear what he says about the end game in the region.
43:25
Trump's end game in the region. Through what exactly is the
43:29
Trump Doctrine in the Middle East?
43:32
So President Trump brilliantly said, look, I'm not going to
43:36
lose any more American lives. We've been there.
43:39
I'm not going to take over any more countries and try and teach
43:41
them the colonial method. It never worked.
43:45
So we're worried about counterterrorism.
43:46
We'll cooperate with our neighbors and that's it.
43:50
And that's basically what he's done.
43:51
Israel, a different story. Israel is a a valued ally.
43:56
We subsidized them four or $5 billion a year and has a special
44:00
place in America's heart. And we're living with the
44:03
confusion of what's happening in this transition.
44:08
So it's it's complicated. So it's a really difficult zip
44:11
code. What's the end game?
44:15
I was hoping you weren't going to ask that because I don't
44:17
know. I don't think anybody knows.
44:22
Of course, that's absolute nonsense.
44:24
They know exactly what the end game is.
44:26
And actually he goes on to describe it.
44:28
But what I find interesting in in this particular response from
44:32
him, he talks about the reason why the Zionist bloc policy has
44:38
not been successful to basically bring our peoples under their
44:43
control. So let's have a listen to this
44:45
I. Don't think anybody knows.
44:49
At the end game, when we say peace, it's an illusion.
44:52
There's never been peace. There will probably never be
44:56
peace because everybody's fighting for legitimacy.
45:00
So people say, well, they're fighting over borders and
45:02
boundaries. It's not what they're fighting
45:03
over. A border or boundary is the
45:05
currency of a negotiation. The end result is somebody wants
45:10
dominance, which means somebody has to submit in that part of
45:15
the world. Submit.
45:17
There's no Arabic word for submit.
45:18
They can't wrap their head around submit, so eventually
45:24
prosperity is the only answer. So he's very clearly saying
45:31
there that submission is not an option from the Arab resistance.
45:35
And someone pointed out to me that the word Islam means
45:39
submission to, to the word of God for Muslims.
45:43
But of course, the Middle East is not only made-up of Muslims,
45:46
there's Christians, there's, there's all manner of minorities
45:51
and minority faiths in the Middle East and Lebanon, Syria
45:54
and Iraq and so on. But what for me is, is this
45:59
arrogance that damn it, you know, the Arabs won't submit to
46:04
doing what we want. But he then brings in the idea
46:07
of prosperity, which is effectively, well, if we can't
46:10
get them to submit through what we're doing, for example, in
46:13
Palestine, then we'll offer them, we'll incentivize them
46:17
with prosperity, which is, of course, exactly what they've
46:20
done with the Arab Gulf state. So then he goes on to talk about
46:24
the role of Hezbollah. And again, this is very
46:26
interesting. He actually admits that the
46:29
American policy or the Israeli policy in Lebanon is effectively
46:34
increasing the popularity of Hezbollah.
46:37
So let's have a look at this. So until Hezbollah, which is
46:43
70,000 troops, we don't recognize Hezbollah is a foreign
46:48
terrorist organization in American parlance.
46:51
I get in trouble every time we go into this discussion because
46:53
in Lebanon it's not right. In Lebanon, it's a political
46:56
party. It has 27 parliamentary seats
47:00
out of 166 or so in parliament. But Hezbollah is an armed
47:05
militia separate from the Lebanese Armed Forces, bigger
47:08
than the Lebanese Armed Forces. Lebanese Armed Forces has been a
47:11
stable influence. And what incentive do they have
47:15
to put their weapons down? 0 Zero.
47:19
I mean, this is the problem, especially when Israel is
47:22
attacking everybody. So if Israel, Israel is
47:25
attacking Syria, Israel is attacking Lebanon, Israel is
47:28
attacking Tunisia, as as it goes on, their argument gets better
47:32
and better as we're here to protect the Lebanese from
47:36
Israel. Now, we'll talk more about this
47:42
an extra, but what's very interesting there is that he
47:45
appears to admit that Israel did conduct the attack against the
47:48
Samud flotilla heading to Gaza in Tunisia.
47:53
And the last two clips, first of all, he's talking about the
47:57
Lebanese Armed Forces, which he calls LAF, LAF.
48:01
So let's just see what he says about them.
48:05
Being mostly Sunnis, there are Shias and it's a good
48:08
organization. It's it's well meaning, but it's
48:11
not well equipped because who are they going to fight, right?
48:14
We don't want to arm. We're going to arm them so they
48:16
can fight Israel. I don't think so.
48:19
So you're arming them so they can fight their own people, The
48:22
Hezbollah. Hezbollah is our enemy.
48:25
Iran is our enemy. We need to cut the heads off of
48:28
those snakes and chop the full of funds.
48:30
That's the only way you're going to stop Hezbollah.
48:35
So this is quite extraordinary. He's actually admitting that
48:38
America is keeping the Lebanese Armed Forces at a level where
48:41
they can't defend the country against Israel, but they can be
48:45
used to turn against their own people, IE the the resistance.
48:51
And then the final comment that he was not the final comment.
48:54
I recommend everybody watches the whole interview.
48:58
But this comment he makes about if you don't come into line in
49:02
Lebanon, what he will do. So let's just play this.
49:06
And I don't mean it's in a disrespectful way because all
49:10
they do is talk. There's never been one act.
49:14
We've told them, do you want our help?
49:16
We'll give you our help. We gave them a playbook.
49:18
They can't get there. They can't execute.
49:21
No, absolutely not. So we said fine, we're not going
49:24
to execute. You know who's going to execute?
49:27
Walk across that board. Do you see where Jerusalem is?
49:30
Jerusalem is going to take care of the Hezbollah for you.
49:33
And that's what's happening right now.
49:34
Absolutely. So that's very clear.
49:40
Lebanon won't come into line with the US playbook.
49:42
So now Israel is being triggered to carry out the USS or
49:46
Washington's dirty work by attacking the resistance and the
49:50
civilians in the South to bring Lebanon in line with the US
49:54
playbook. Yes, indeed.
49:57
Thank you, Vanessa. We will talk more about this an
50:00
extra now coming back to Europe then in a sense, but
50:04
unfortunately beginning with another picture of Trump.
50:06
I just want to highlight this because the war hysteria
50:09
continues to heat up this week LED of course by the mainstream
50:13
media. This is Fox News here.
50:16
Sorry. We'll go back.
50:17
One President Donald Trump, they say, on Thursday said the US
50:21
could end up in World War Three over Russia's war in Ukraine and
50:25
conceded that Russian President Vladimir Putin has let him down
50:29
over his refusal to end his military campaign.
50:31
And this is at the time that Trump is doubling down on the
50:36
idea or the narrative that he was putting forward with Starmer
50:40
at the press release, the press conference the other day.
50:44
Fox follows this. You got a bit of a preview of it
50:47
with an outright lie. They said that one day later,
50:50
Russia sent 3 fighter jets over Estonia's capital city of
50:54
Tallinn in a direct and clear violation of its airspace,
50:58
prompting another NATO member to spark Article 4 for the second
51:01
time as many weeks. So.
51:03
But the point here is the the Russian Migs were not sent over
51:07
Talon, and even the map published by the Estonian
51:11
Defence Forces show that they stayed over the Baltic Sea, not
51:14
coming closer than was at about 20 miles or so from the coast,
51:18
even if the route was questionable.
51:21
I mean, this is still being argued over.
51:25
The Associated Press then in this article claims that a
51:28
senior Estonian military official alleges that the pilots
51:31
of the Migs ignore signals from Italian F35 pilots who were sent
51:36
to investigate the presence in allegedly in Estonian airspace.
51:42
And in fact, this article makes the point that it still needs to
51:45
be confirmed if the border violation, the alleged border
51:49
violation was deliberate or not. And the commander of Estonia's
51:53
military intelligence centre is reported by AP here as saying
51:57
that the Russian jets must have known they were in Estonian
52:04
airspace. So the Russian pilots didn't
52:07
pose a military threat, this article goes on to say.
52:11
But although they said or acknowledged that communication
52:13
from the Italian pilots flying the F30 fives, the Russians,
52:17
they say, ignored it and didn't actually follow the signs, which
52:22
is I'm not sure what signs they're talking about, which is
52:26
partly why they were in in Estonian airspace for so long,
52:30
he said. Why they didn't do it, that's a
52:32
question for the Russian pilots. So this this hysteria continues
52:38
to build. This of course, began with the
52:40
alleged drone attacks in in Poland.
52:43
And with all this hysteria over Estonia and Poland, it the
52:46
flight of a Russian IL 20 intelligent aircraft over the
52:51
Baltic Sea yesterday may have gone unnoticed by the corporate
52:56
media, but not quite because two Swedish gripping jets and two
53:01
German Eurofighter jets were sent to go and escort this
53:06
aircraft as well. So again, this is an Associated
53:08
Press article that we can see on screen here.
53:11
And they were just trying to hype this situation up once
53:15
again. But the rhetoric from, if that's
53:18
the media, the rhetoric from various MPs and other European
53:23
leaders continues to ramp up as well.
53:25
So let's have a look at that. Here is the Lithuanian defence
53:29
minister. Russia is testing NATO again.
53:31
Dozens of drones in Poland last week, drones in Lithuania,
53:33
Latvia, Estonia and now fighter jets in Estonian skies.
53:37
These are deliberate provocations.
53:39
They're deliberate tests, tests of her readiness or resolve and
53:43
of the limits of her deterrence. The latest in an escalating
53:46
pattern of pressure by Russia. And she went on safer Estonia
53:49
for Poland, for Lithia and for all of NATO's eastern flank.
53:52
This is a direct threat, not just the territorial integrity,
53:55
but the citizen safety. And of course the idea of
53:58
keeping your citizens safe is really the, the core sort of
54:04
narrative that we're hearing from MPs and other leaders right
54:08
across Europe and the UK at the moment.
54:11
And she finished by, or she went on to say here, our biggest risk
54:14
currently is miscalculation by Russia.
54:16
Does Russia believe that NATO will not allow violations of its
54:19
territory? Does Russia believe that Europe
54:22
is going to strike back together with the United States?
54:25
That's now the last line of defence between if and when a
54:29
war with Russia happens. And then we had comments from
54:32
the German. For German foreign policy
54:34
adviser Jurgen Hart, only a clear message to Russia that any
54:38
military border violation will be sorry, will be met with, will
54:44
be met with force. These propagations are tested by
54:47
Russia. Again.
54:48
Ray's ring is basically exactly the same words and will only end
54:52
if we respond clearly to all military border violations.
54:55
The alternative would be for Russian war logic to continue to
54:58
escalate. Now it is airspace violations,
55:02
so it would be the bombing of individual targets.
55:04
Then Russian soldiers will come. It's the the narrative is just
55:08
incredible. And then Donald Trump yesterday
55:11
was asked whether NATO countries should shoot down Russian
55:17
aircraft if they violate NATO airspace.
55:20
And he replied, yes, I do. And so just very quickly,
55:25
Charles thought. Well, in the language of the
55:32
Strategic Defence Review published this year, it looks
55:35
like the defence dividend is going to pay out because this is
55:38
exactly what people have been itching for.
55:41
The defence or war industry in particular who stand to make
55:43
absolutely billions from this and already are because of the
55:47
apparent requirement to mobilize and put 3% of sorry, 5% of GDP
55:54
towards spending on war. So that, you know, it's looking
55:57
good for the for the reassurance force who must be beginning to
56:01
think about what they're going to pack and all that kind of
56:03
thing. So this is exactly where it was
56:06
always looking like it was going to go.
56:08
I think the only difficulty for us, perhaps as a sort of
56:11
analysts and commentators, was see exactly what steps were
56:14
going to be taken in order that delivered the conflict that's
56:16
been so much desired. Indeed.
56:20
OK, we will move on then. And of course we've got Andrew
56:23
Wakefield speaking at our event in a in a few weeks time.
56:27
But what's been going over on in the United States over the
56:30
question of what causes autism? Yes.
56:35
Well, I'm not actually intending to deal very specifically with
56:38
the issue at hand. It's rather more the tsunami of
56:41
propaganda which has come out in the wake of this.
56:43
And, and I'll go on to refer to exactly how that pertains to
56:46
Andrew Wakefield and indeed another speaker at our at our
56:49
York event. But let's just, I'm afraid to
56:50
say it is Donald Trump again. But but this is actually going
56:53
to pertain to what's happened in the United Kingdom.
56:55
Let's just listen to what he said.
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And there are other parts of the world where they don't have
57:02
Tylenol, where they don't have autism.
57:05
That tells you a lot. And I want to say it right now.
57:09
And you know, the way I look at it, don't take it.
57:12
Don't take it. There's there's no downside in
57:15
not taking it. So I'd like to ask Bobby to come
57:19
up and say a few words. I hope I didn't ruin his day.
57:21
But that's the way I feel. I've been very strong on the
57:24
subject for a long time. You know, life is common sense
57:27
too, and there's a lot of common sense in this.
57:30
And I wish things like this were brought up and this group has
57:34
worked so hard on it. But I'd like to be a little bit
57:37
more, a little speedier in the process of a recommendation
57:41
because there's no harm in going quicker.
57:43
There's absolutely no harm. At worst, there's no harm.
57:46
Thank you very much, Bobby, please.
57:51
No, of course this has prompted a response from every single
57:55
medical organization in the world apparently saying that
57:59
there is absolutely no evidence to support what Trump is saying.
58:02
Here we've got the World Health Organization issuing a statement
58:06
on autism relation related issues, something that's backed
58:11
up by the Department of Health and Social Care saying
58:14
paracetamol and pregnancy what you need to know.
58:17
And they say there's no evidence that taking paracetamol during
58:19
pregnancy causes autism in children.
58:22
Now that's either a straight lie or it's a manipulation regarding
58:26
the specifics around the conditions that are actually
58:29
referred to because the Dean of the Faculty of Public Health at
58:34
Harvard, Andrea Baccarelli, has cited 46 studies.
58:37
It was it was his paper that has effectively inflamed this.
58:41
Now of course, one of the fundamental things that come out
58:45
of this are that at no point has anybody suggested that taking
58:49
painkillers in the 1st place might not necessarily be an
58:52
appropriate thing to do when considering the state of the
58:56
human body. And that is not medical advice,
58:58
by the way. It's just a consideration.
59:01
And the other thing, the coincidence, which absolutely
59:04
cannot be ignored considering this is relating to pregnancy,
59:07
is the astonishing campaign that's just being started with
59:11
autumn vaccination in mind in the United Kingdom.
59:14
We'll just have a look at the video that they've put out now.
59:24
Good morning. If you're pregnant, you can help
59:27
protect your baby from RSV, whooping cough and flu, which
59:32
can cause serious illness. Vaccines give you both the best
59:35
protection against these diseases.
59:37
Vaccinated. Yeah.
59:40
During pregnancy and in your baby's first months of life,
59:44
stay strong, get vaccinated, speak to your midwife or GP
59:47
practice. Now one of the very interesting
59:52
points to note is that something that's been particularly
59:55
hammered by the NHS is the idea that a pregnant woman getting
59:58
vaccinated means that delivery of that vaccination through the
1:00:01
placenta will benefit the newborn baby.
1:00:04
And the idea, the campaign sort of tagline is, is stay strong,
1:00:08
get vaccinated. Now with that, we've got all
1:00:13
sorts of. Associated imagery which
1:00:17
infantilises the entire situation.
1:00:19
You'll note that the there is no opportunity missed with regard
1:00:23
to wrapping more than one agenda into this story.
1:00:26
Of course every single couple or parent and child shown is of
1:00:30
some sort of ethnic minority, but then we are given the white
1:00:36
mother with child to reinforce the point.
1:00:39
So there we go, stay strong and get vaccinated.
1:00:43
The the other thing to point out is that the the wording used is
1:00:46
vaccines help protect what matters most.
1:00:50
Not forgetting that what matters most are the profits of the
1:00:53
pharmaceutical companies and indeed the benefit to the people
1:00:57
that invest in them. That's the key take away from
1:01:00
this, hence the propaganda, hence the backlash against what
1:01:03
Donald Trump was saying in the 1st place.
1:01:05
And yes, I should just finish off by saying that please do
1:01:08
join us on the live stream for our event in New York because
1:01:11
not only do we have Andrew Wakefield speaking, going over
1:01:14
some of the points in his career which relate to this very topic,
1:01:17
but also is Evans, who will be specialising on medical ethics.
1:01:21
And that brings my report on propaganda to a close.
1:01:25
Yeah, brilliant. Thank you.
1:01:26
It also brings the news programme to a close because we
1:01:30
are out of time for now. So thank you very much to
1:01:32
Charles and Vanessa for joining me.
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