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NFL Week 13 SNF Showdown | 49ers @ Bills | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fall systems clear, we lift.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on ship at Nation YouTube station. We're back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back with my guy. Am a little two week uh,
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  Speaker 2: little little two week travel period for for myself, am
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  Speaker 2: falling in doing a quick hid himself. Appreciate that, man,
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  Speaker 2: But we're back.
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  Speaker 3: It feels good to be back.
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  Speaker 2: Here breaking down the Sunday night football game. And hey,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you look at the schedule earlier in the
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  Speaker 2: year and you look, uh look forward to a game
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  Speaker 2: like this come what week thirteen, And now it's not
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  Speaker 2: the case. Right The forty nine ers haven't hashed out
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  Speaker 2: to be the team that everyone thought they were going
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  Speaker 2: to be. Obviously riddled with injuries. More on that here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Tons of injuries coming in and it's a snow game,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a snow there's so much snow in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know how the game is
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  Speaker 2: going to get in. We got an interstate shut down
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  Speaker 2: for ninety miles with the Lake effect and the snow
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  Speaker 2: going on. But hey, this total is still Vegas still
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  Speaker 2: threw out of forty five total. Hung a forty five
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  Speaker 2: total out here, So I want to hear your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on that. But bring you in man, Happy Sunday. What's
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  Speaker 2: going on? Brother?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, happy Sunday. I mean, if the snow is gone,
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  Speaker 1: obviously they can manage that. They'll be shoveling and off
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  Speaker 1: it's the wind. They'll think that's really going to affect
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  Speaker 1: this game if there is any don't know if there
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  Speaker 1: isn't at this point right roughly twelve hours from the game.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, when the schedule makers made this game, they
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  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be a great one. Still
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  Speaker 1: should be an okay one, but with the injuries and
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  Speaker 1: the CEMAC missing most of the season, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Bills and we'll talk about it, but I think the
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  Speaker 1: Bills kind of handled this one fairly easy tonight. Man,
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  Speaker 1: They're they're they seem to be rocking and rolling. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to breaking it down and Josh Allen his
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  Speaker 1: MVP campaign, So ye should be it should be a
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  Speaker 1: Bills game in my opinion, but we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's everyone's opinion coming in obviously right.
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  Speaker 2: One team is trending up, one team is trending down. Right,
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  Speaker 2: rock party is coming in questionable here tonight. Other key
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  Speaker 2: pieces out for the Niners right now as it sits
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  Speaker 2: are Nick Bosa, Trent Williams, Leonor Aaron Banks, Jordan Elliott.
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  Speaker 2: So a couple of big, big losses on the defensive
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  Speaker 2: side obviously there, and then obviously Trent Williams right on
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  Speaker 2: that offensive offensive line right, He's a big piece in
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  Speaker 2: that line there, one of the best left tackles in
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  Speaker 2: in all the football there. So forty five total, six
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  Speaker 2: and a half points spread here Bill's favorite at home. Right,
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  Speaker 2: you get these West Coast boys coming up to the
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  Speaker 2: uh to the northeast right, playing outside Sunday night game here,
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  Speaker 2: and uh it is it's been a blizzard out there,
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  Speaker 2: and Buffalo should be should be fine, I think for
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  Speaker 2: the most part by by the time kickoff kind of
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  Speaker 2: kicks kicks off here tonight. But what's your thoughts at
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  Speaker 2: any kind of over arching thoughts about this game? Kind
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  Speaker 2: of from a first glance here? How do you feel
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  Speaker 2: playing out here? You kind of obviously hit on it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit right with you think Buffalo kind of
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  Speaker 2: controls it. I tend to agree there, But any other
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  Speaker 2: kind of overarching thoughts here, uh on tonight's game?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have more interest in both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the running game I mean still Christian McCaffrey, right,
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  Speaker 1: he can catch short passes, he can run it, so
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be more run focused. And then
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  Speaker 1: obviously Perdy being the biggest news with James Cook when
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  Speaker 1: we go back to the running game, James Cooks obviously
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  Speaker 1: in played Josh Allen with his legs as well. And
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  Speaker 1: then and then for me, it's gonna come down to
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  Speaker 1: Brock Perdy. All sounds are pointing towards that he is
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  Speaker 1: gonna play. He has listened his question. Well that you
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  Speaker 1: that you said, but he didn't have any setbacks yesterday
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  Speaker 1: or Friday, so he's looking to play. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: a big piece of news that Brandon Allen where to
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  Speaker 1: get a start again. I talked about it last week
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  Speaker 1: in the slate playing over at Shipping Nation. But he's
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  Speaker 1: a very bad quarterback and in the cold, his small hands.
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  Speaker 1: I would love something like the Bills defense. And but
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  Speaker 1: it's run game. It's gonna be run heavy for me.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised you kind of alluded to it too
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  Speaker 1: at the start of the show, like it's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: hot total for all this snow. But in theory you
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  Speaker 1: got two high potent offenses, so that's probably why it is.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be more of a of
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  Speaker 1: a you know, twenty one to ten type of game
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  Speaker 1: than a thirty four to twenty type of game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree there.
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  Speaker 2: I just pulled out the weather from roth RG and
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  Speaker 2: he hesitated his yellow orange says about ten mile an
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  Speaker 2: hour sustained wins, gusts up to twenty to twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: and temperatures kind of in those mid to upper twenties there.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess not the horrible conditions not great by
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  Speaker 2: any means, right with the cold and then the snow,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll get some blowing snow around there too,
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  Speaker 2: depending on how how early the snow kind of quits
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  Speaker 2: and they're able to get in there. I know they were.
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  Speaker 2: They were. They were throwing banners out there and flyers
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  Speaker 2: out there for twenty bucks an hour to go out
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  Speaker 2: there and shovel snow. So Ham, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you're in the market there, they're going shovel snow. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you got a nice, nice little dad shovel in
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  Speaker 2: the in the in the garage there, a little snow
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  Speaker 2: blow or something like that. You don't get too much
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  Speaker 2: of that done in Nashville. So figure it out. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you need need a little side gig, you can
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  Speaker 2: hit on a plane, get up the way to the
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  Speaker 2: east coast, catch the game, and shovel some snow in
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  Speaker 2: the meantime there. So I thought i'd throw that out there.
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  Speaker 2: But let's jump in.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be out there with no shirts on, no gloves
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  Speaker 1: on your boy Ham over here. He would need to
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  Speaker 1: be old. That's not that's not the job for.
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  Speaker 2: The Ham's not going to be the one that you
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  Speaker 2: see on the TV right in the front row with
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  Speaker 2: the guys with their shirts off, cheering on their cheering
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  Speaker 2: on his local sports team.
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  Speaker 3: There.
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  Speaker 2: That's not gonna be Ham. Ham's in the sheets at
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  Speaker 2: seven thirty at night, first of all. So this game
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  Speaker 2: is a little late for him. But let's jump in.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk start with the captain position here obviously in
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  Speaker 2: the snow, in these kind of conditions, and just in general, right,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, anytime Josh Allen's on the slates, obviously he
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  Speaker 2: makes one of the best captains. He's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the highest on captain, highest projected guy, and he's twenty
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  Speaker 2: one dollars more than the next price guy, his fellow
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  Speaker 2: teammate James Cook. You alluded to the running game a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Obviously that falls on the back of James
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  Speaker 2: Cook and Josh Allen right as a runner himself. What's
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on the captain position here? Hit on those
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  Speaker 2: two in particular, Josh Allen projecting early projections about thirty
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  Speaker 2: five ish percent. I could see it coming even higher, right,
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  Speaker 2: everybody wants to play Josh Allen, especially on a Showdown
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  Speaker 2: slate at home big favorites here. I was looking back
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  Speaker 2: at some of the past games against the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 2: the last game Allen did play the squad here, obviously
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  Speaker 2: different teams, different years, things like that. Did light it
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  Speaker 2: up for four touchdowns through the air, scored over thirty
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  Speaker 2: Fantasy points there. So obviously if he did something like
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  Speaker 2: that again, hard to imagine he's not going to be
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  Speaker 2: the opt the guy you need up in the top
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  Speaker 2: spot there. But any thoughts on him versus James Cook
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  Speaker 2: versus George Kittle, who's kind of been emerging right after
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  Speaker 2: we see these injuries, kind of ridicule this forty nine
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  Speaker 2: er squad, right, Brandon, you being the big one that
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  Speaker 2: kind of rejuvenated Kittle here. Anytime you see these bigger games, right,
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  Speaker 2: these more competitive games. Obviously it's only six and a
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  Speaker 2: half point spread here, it's not some some sort of
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  Speaker 2: crazy spread. And if you think the forty nine ers
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  Speaker 2: stay in it, you got to have to think George
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  Speaker 2: Kittle's heavily involved there. So what's your take on those
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  Speaker 2: guys and then any of these other Bills pass catchers,
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  Speaker 2: and then it drops kind of all the way down
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  Speaker 2: to Juwon Jennings and that and then the kickers. From
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  Speaker 2: from a captain perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my pool is gonna be tight tonight. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: especially on the Bill side. Start there, because I did
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  Speaker 1: think they'll win this game. But skill position wise, it's
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, It's James Cook and then that's it for me.
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  Speaker 1: Any too many Russian Roulette wide receivers, slash tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: no cockade, but he's just got so many guys to
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  Speaker 1: throw to it. Amari shakir Kean Coleman is questionable. He
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  Speaker 1: could come back. Todd Johnson, you know he can throw
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  Speaker 1: it to him, but uh Bosa set to miss again.
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  Speaker 1: Another matchup Kevin Gibbns has been questionable. They just they're
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  Speaker 1: just so beat up on the defense. It is going
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  Speaker 1: to be ground and pound. In my opinion, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a Chiefs S type game that
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  Speaker 1: we saw last week that they played, where it's just
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  Speaker 1: when and when, ugly get it to James Cook, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get twenty one points to know that the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: Ers can't get there, so it's Alan and Cook only
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  Speaker 1: for me at the captain spot.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said this this, this forty nine Ers defense
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  Speaker 1: has been bad all season. Uh, and it gets worse
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  Speaker 1: with their best player or one of their one of
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  Speaker 1: their two best players set to miss. They do get
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  Speaker 1: tar various wardback the forty nine ers do you know,
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  Speaker 1: was going through some personal stuff, so it's good to
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  Speaker 1: see him back. He's up, he's up their best corner,
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  Speaker 1: So that would be another reason why I like this
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  Speaker 1: running game. And then on the flip side, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: like Kittle. I like Kittle in this contest. You know,
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  Speaker 1: twelve nine a good price for him. We've seen time
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  Speaker 1: and time again he does have you know, his ceilings
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  Speaker 1: three touchdown upside and Nate's I don't know if there's
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  Speaker 1: many other guys outside of Cemac that maybe have that
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  Speaker 1: kind of upside, uh, you know, and they don't have
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  Speaker 1: the weapons they're missing. Ayuk McCaffrey has been heard all season.
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  Speaker 1: Samuel has been a disappointment this season. So Kittle would
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  Speaker 1: be my favorite Niner. And then yeah, you got to
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  Speaker 1: shout out the VFL vaul for like Jawan, Jenny's just
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  Speaker 1: an absolute dog, been balling all season long. He's eleven
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  Speaker 1: to one. He's been their guy. He's been their guy
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  Speaker 1: more than than Deebo this year, and I think Deebo
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  Speaker 1: has more you know, home run ability. Jawan's going to
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  Speaker 1: get there on volume. But I don't mind Jawan either
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  Speaker 1: at eleven to one in the captain spot for me,
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  Speaker 1: But interested to hear your takes. See if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get up the sea Mac.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, excellent breakdown there. I don't know if if
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  Speaker 2: I get up to Seemac here, I just I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. He's game script independent overall.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: At fifteen to nine, I think I'd rather just spend
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  Speaker 2: up to Josh Allen, to be honest. But again, ownership
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  Speaker 2: is going to kind of reflect that here. The thing
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  Speaker 2: I worry about here him is obviously the Niners are
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  Speaker 2: kind of still in play right now, right, sitting at
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  Speaker 2: five and six. But if they lose this game, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just hard to imagine they're going to
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  Speaker 2: just give Semac more work, right, They're kind of at
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  Speaker 2: an outside shot looking into the playoffs, it's gonna be tough,
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  Speaker 2: especially especially in the NFC, right with obviously the NFC
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  Speaker 2: North is gonna have three teams for sure, most likely
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. There's just tough for the squad. And
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  Speaker 2: are they going to keep running Seemc into the dirt
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  Speaker 2: with his injury designation to start start the year. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe late in the year we might see
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  Speaker 2: more Jordan Mason right coming in there. The only thing,
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  Speaker 2: the only caveat you can say, right is any time
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  Speaker 2: one of these guys is the starter, Shanahan tends to
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  Speaker 2: give almost majority of, if not all, the work to
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  Speaker 2: the one guy. I just worry a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: Semac there. And I think if people are going to
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  Speaker 2: the San France side in this game from the captain position,
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be se Mac, right, So I'd much
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  Speaker 2: rather just go to Kittle, I think in the same
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  Speaker 2: team as a captain. If I'm looking to captain one
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  Speaker 2: of these forty nine ers going right back, going to
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  Speaker 2: the well with Kittle. I mean, this dude just does it.
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  Speaker 2: He does it a ton after the catch too. If
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  Speaker 2: there's a little snow or something on the field too.
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  Speaker 2: That helps these offensive guys more than it helps the
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  Speaker 2: defensive guys, right because they know what then when they're cutting.
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  Speaker 2: The defenders obviously don't. So I don't mind Kittle there.
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  Speaker 2: But my favorite captain up Tom's going to be James Cook.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the reason why running backs have smashed this
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  Speaker 2: forty nine er squad. Now you take out some key
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  Speaker 2: defensive pieces. There's another linebacker as well that's questionable on
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers that might miss as well outside
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  Speaker 2: of Bosa, so kind of decimated through the middle. And
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  Speaker 2: you just saw what Josh comes into the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: ers squad at home. It's a very similar match up
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  Speaker 2: here for James Cook, who gets majority of the work
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  Speaker 2: on the ground, and he's gonna be leverage right off
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  Speaker 2: of Josh Allen. Forty nine ers have actually been pretty
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  Speaker 2: damn good this year against quarterbacks. They played some good ones, right,
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  Speaker 2: they played my homes. They played a lot of different
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks and pretty much all of them haven't scored really
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  Speaker 2: over twenty fantasy points. Obviously, Josh Allen's a different beast here,
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  Speaker 2: but on a one game sample, I'll take my chances
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  Speaker 2: in a game like this to have James Cook as
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  Speaker 2: leverage off of Josh Allen in the captain spot and
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  Speaker 2: take my chances that he can outscore Josh Allen here
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  Speaker 2: tonight in a game where I just don't think Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen's gonna need to do a ton could be wrong there.
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  Speaker 2: He's the best captain played by far. Everybody knows that
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking a wait for a ways to get different
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  Speaker 2: kind of kind of locks up with you there. So
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  Speaker 2: I love James Cook, George Kittle on the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: er side, excuse me, like him a ton. And then
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  Speaker 2: the only other captain I play for the Bills is
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  Speaker 2: definitely Josh Allen. Obviously they're not gonna get to any
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  Speaker 2: of these pass catchers. Shakir has a good match up there,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just man, there's so many guys to feed there.
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  Speaker 2: The addition of Marii Cooper, Dawson Knox is now in
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  Speaker 2: play right because Kinkaid's out there, so you can make
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  Speaker 2: a little You can definitely make the argument these pass
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  Speaker 2: catchers get a little bit better with the with the
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  Speaker 2: loss of don't this game here, But man, they just
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  Speaker 2: have so many different guys through the wide receiver room.
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  Speaker 2: It's just hard to really go to any of these
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  Speaker 2: guys up top. So for me, it's gonna be pretty condensed.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be maybe a little CMC up top, but
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  Speaker 2: mainly James Cook, George Kittle, and then Josh Allen for me.
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  Speaker 2: Any any final thoughts on the captain position here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you did you say Trent Williams was out already?
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  Speaker 1: Or Okay, yeah, I thought you said he was. Question
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I'll just look in. Yeah he's out. No, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think we broke it down well. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be tough for any other skill position bill to
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  Speaker 1: be in the optimal what's your take on Juwan? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear you mentioned Jawan or Deebo. No interest in
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  Speaker 1: either one of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: I just I mean it's tough u Juwan's been been
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  Speaker 2: definitely a beast. He's eleven to one, so he's kind
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  Speaker 2: of in that sweet spot there for me. I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind that. Let's see where where dee was at thirteen
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  Speaker 2: to five. So I'd much rather play Kittle over Debo
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  Speaker 2: because I'm seeing about five sub five percent ownership on
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  Speaker 2: Kittle captain here obviously, because Josh Allen is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: probably I mean, I won't be surprised to see Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen pushing forty percent plus here tonight in the captain spots,
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  Speaker 2: so pretty much anyone out side of him, obviously, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a good play there. If I'm playing Diva,
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  Speaker 2: I'd probably just rather play Party, to be honest, But either,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're both gross. To be honest, it's Kiddle
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  Speaker 2: for me, and then maybe Juwan Jennings just because I
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  Speaker 2: think he could see a big Juwan game. He's got
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good, uh, pretty good four ceiling combination right
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  Speaker 2: when when I you expent out this year here, so
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  Speaker 2: he'd probably be a distant guy for me. But really
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  Speaker 2: I want to be pretty condensed here. If I'm going
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  Speaker 2: three captains, I'm going Josh Allen, I'm going James Cook
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  Speaker 2: in Kittle. Those are my three guys over on Cook
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  Speaker 2: over on Kittle, kind of with the fielder under on
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is kind of how I'm approaching it there.
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  Speaker 2: But Yeah, that's kind of my final thoughts there. Let's
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  Speaker 2: jump into the flex positions here, haym. Let's kind of
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  Speaker 2: start with let's go go position by position. We'll start
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  Speaker 2: with the kind of running back room. Obviously, on the
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  Speaker 2: foty nine ers, you got McCaffrey right all the way
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  Speaker 2: up at the top. You got Jordan Mason right the
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  Speaker 2: backup priced at twenty four hundred, which is a little
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  Speaker 2: different than what we've been seeing right on the showdown
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  Speaker 2: slates for these backup running backs there, usually the backup
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  Speaker 2: running backs are praised up in the five K plus
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  Speaker 2: right right in the five K, six K, four K range.
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  Speaker 2: He's down at twenty four hundred. And then he got
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Kyle Juice right who they always love to use at
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: two k. And then on the bill side you got
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Ray Davis who get involved. You got Ty Johnson who'll
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: get involved, and the obviously got James Cook. There any
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: additional takes on the running back position here, obviously, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: know you're gonna like James Cook like myself, But what's
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: your take on Christian McCaffrey, because he is definitely expensive
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: in the flex here.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's tough. Trent Williams is out Aaron Banks. Another
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman out, Dominic Pooney. I hope I said
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that name right. He's been banged up, but it looks
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: like he will play man. They're decimated that on that
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: offensive line. But with that being said, I mean, can
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: see Mac catch ten passes for seventy yards? Absolutely, I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: don't think they'll be throwing the ball downfield, So yes,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I do have interest in cmc at at the flex
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: at ten to seven. I think it comes more through
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the air though I would be building game scripts. It's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: coming through the air and not necessarily the ground. But
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: one hundred total yards, ten catches and he falls in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the box. I think you're gonna need him at that point.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Interested to hear your take on.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I just so I look at the game
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: last week kind of a similar spot. Right last week
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: there were obviously play my Packers here in lambell probably
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: a pretty similar type game script. Right, the weather, the cold,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: it was everything. It was kind of rainy, right that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: game in Lambeau. Now they go up to Buffalo, kind
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: of same thing, right, big dogs on the road here
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and you look, what's a lot way to me? Is McCaffrey.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Last week in Green Bay who has been decimated by
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: running backs right, running, especially running backs out of the backfield.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I've always gotten this this Packers team a lot. I know, obviously,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I watch every game. He only had four targets through
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the air. Last week for McCaffrey, he only had eleven
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: touches there. So in a game where I see it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a similar script to last week, right, I know, people,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I know it's gross to go and click on these
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers. People already think that, but then they
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: see the name McCaffrey, right, and they kind of just
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: buy and click it. I think I'm gonna be underweight
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on McCaffrey here. And it's scary to say, because obviously
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: he's the best skilled position guy left for the Niners.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: There but two offensive linement down a similar game script
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: last week, and he only got four catches last week
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: in a similar script, right, Packers beat him thirty eight
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to ten. I see a similar type game script playing
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: out here, right, and it just alarms me, Right, it
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: just worries me. The game before that, he only had
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: five targets the last two weeks, right against Seattle, which
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: was a competitive game, and then Green Bay, which they
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: were trailing. The whole game. You'd take dump off, dump off,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: dump off, which if I was the head coach, that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: what I would be doing, right, Dump off to McCaffrey,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Let him work in space. He just looks like he
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: lost his step as well. To me, I'm gonna be
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: underweight on McCaffrey here, ten to sixth most expensive guy
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: on the forty nine or second most expensive guy in
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the Flex in general. Much rather just play Josh Allen
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: or Brock Purty to be honest in the Flex over
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey there. So for me, that means I'm going to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: probably have a little bit of Jordan Mason maybe or
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Kyle Use but realistically kind of want to fade this
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: entire running back room here for the forty nine ers
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in the spot. Let's go more on the kiddo, the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: pass catcher, Jeworge Jennings side for me, but any additional
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: takes on the running back position. I know you threw
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: it over to me on the McCaffrey stuff, but any
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: takes on the Buffalo guys.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see real quick before I dive over
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to Ray Davis, did you see that thing this week
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: where it talked about how McCaffrey like refuses to come
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: out of the game. Did you look into that at all?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't look into that at all. I just know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is your franchise guy, right for the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers. You're five and seven outside shot. It's
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: going to be pretty damn tough to make the playoffs
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: in the NFC right now. When you got three teams
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: in the NFC North right that are all nine win
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: teams and you're kind of five and seven, your only
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: shot is really to win the division, which they could
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to get in. It's just hard to see with his
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: injury stuff in a game where they're on the road
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: late nights right post Thanksgiving here snow trash up in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the Northeast against a really good Buffalo squad, it's just
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: hard to see that they're just gonna run McCaffrey into
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the ground here kind of the remainder of the season here.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But I could be totally wrong on that, but I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: didn't see that too much. I just even if McCaffrey
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: plays the whole game like he did last week in
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, it's just number one, eye test wise, he
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't look the same right coming off that injury, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: just gamescript wise, They're just they went to when they
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: needed points in that game, they went to Kittle. They kittle, Kittle, Kiddle, Kiddle.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I see more of the same even the game before that, Right,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you think against the Seahawks, right, which have been decimated
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: by running backs, McCaffrey would have been heavily involved. He
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: only got five targets through the air, right last week,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: four targets through the air. So used to being McCaffrey
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of the past, right, we'd see eight, nine, ten, eleven,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: twelve targets right for this guy on dumpo off, dump
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: off off. There's not been the case. And at ten to.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Six it's expensive playing.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: He's gonna garner a ton of ownership because he always
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: does right name value alone.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of my takes on that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe Shanahan, maybe they were good last
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: year too, and McCaffrey was catching ten passes. I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Shanahan's a semi donkey anyway, so maybe they they I was,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at it the last game. I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean James Cook played thirty five percent of the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: snaps and Tyd Johnson played forty five. That's just crazy
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to me. But and all those running backs are lumped
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: together down there in that what the three thousand, I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't play juice, but twenty four hundred, man, I just
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: can't do it. Ned's don't. I don't see Ray Davis
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: getting there. I mean, when the chips are down, he's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: not going to be in there. It's going to be
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Johnson or Cook. Mason could in my opinion, can only
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get there with a CMC injury, which I'm not going
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to be building for that, So I'm out on all
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: these other running backs. Cook or CMC would be too
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: only for me.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was just a much different kind
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of game script last week for the Bills against Kansas City.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I wouldn't look too much into the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: snaps there. It is a little alarming, but when you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: go back to the last four weeks, James cooks up
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: north of fifty percent, right, So it could have been
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a fluke game script there wise, Right, Ty Johnson played
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. They were playing from I don't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: remember correctly, but I think that was pretty competitive back
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and forth game. Ty Johnson is definitely the more guy,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the guy they want to use more in kind of
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the passing down stuff. Right with dump Bosston that, so
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I think that has something to do with it there.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not getting to no Ray Davis here.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think Ty Johnson's the craziest play here, because
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: if you did build we talk about game scripts, right,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you talk about a game script that nobody's really building for.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Is Buffalo to kind of be playing from behind or
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in a back and forth competitive game here. Obviously cook
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: can be evolved there, but if they're if Buffalo is
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: playing from behind, you just saw it last week, right,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: forty five percent of the stands for the guy Ty
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Johnson here and at his price point at three K.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think. I don't think it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the craziest play. Probably not something I'm going to do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But we talk about game scripts. In your game scripts
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: where you build kind of Niners heavy, maybe you play McCaffrey, right,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey smashes and kind of goes against what we both
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: said earlier. Maybe you're throwing at Ty Johnson there, because
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that means McCaffrey's crushing, right, Buffalo is probably playing from behind.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be through Josh Allen right and the guy
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: like Ty Johnson and some of the pass catchers there,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: so don't hate something like that, But realistically, it's James
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Cook for me at the running back position. Maybe some McCaffrey,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: but overall, I want to be under on I'm McCaffrey there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: So James Cook is really the only guy that stands
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: out to me. Let's flip over to the to the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: wide receiver position here. Obviously on the Niners you got
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Hodgepodge of guys right with the injuries there,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: but you still got Deebo, you still got Joan je
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and then Ricky Piersoll, who has been emerging there. He's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: forty eight hundred, He's got a really nice price point there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: They looked his way a couple times last week. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: then Chris Conley there. On the Bill's side of things,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: you got Matt Collins, you got Shakiir, you got Curtis Samuel,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: got Kean Coleman, who's questionable Amari Cooper. I mean, you
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: got Russian Roulette there.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: For the bill side.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: What's your take on the wide receiver position here?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's just man, it's tough. Like you said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it's uh, you want to play Ricky Piersoll and uh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you meant. A couple of times,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but zero times targeted last week.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It was the week before, yeah, week before.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The week before. But what I'll say about Pearsaw is man,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: he's playing ninety percent of the snaps. He's playing more
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: than Debo. I mean, he's out there a ton. If
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you get a Tampa Bay esque week, I think he
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: caught one and ran it for like fifty that's in play.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, Piersall's a good, good UH receiver obviously first
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: round draft pick, so I don't hate that. I'm with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you on that. Samuel would be another one. He's right
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: there with him, right, He's more of a gadget guy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: They get around the red zone, might give him an
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: end around, a little slip screen something like that. But
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and the cole Man he may break. He's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: so fragile at seventy two hundred, and they have wardback.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: As I said, I think Shakiir is probably the best.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Let me see Shakiir eight eight thousand. But man, he
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: has no home run ability. He is a very high
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: high catch percentage because they throw it to him as
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a dot's got to be subbed like ten, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: ten yard, I would say closer like five. But yeah, man,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: looking at it, it's Juwan for me at seventy four hundred.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I love Jawan Jennings. He's just the guy that they
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: look for. I mean when party's in trouble and on
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: third down, it's the dog Juwan Jennings in my opinion.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to scroll through here to see if
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I see any other names, but it's Jennings, it's Pearsal,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it's Samuel. I don't love Shakir, but I would have
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: him in my pool just based on the fact that, uh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna get a bunch of targets, especially
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: if they're playing from behind and they're going to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: close to the line of scrimmage, so you know he's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: gonna catch him and run with them. Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: No, excellent breakdown for for me, wide receiver, Shakiir is
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the number one. I mean, the targets in the floor
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: are just there. I mean, Shakira has just absolutely been
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: done everything for the squad here to be honest, well, oh,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I've been targets last week in a competitive game. There
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: only issue is I have is I mean he's eight
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: k I just don't know how much Buffalo is gonna throw.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: But you alluded to it, right, He's kind of the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He's kind of the Rashi Rice of the Chiefs right
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: before Rashie Rice got went down, right, Just everything underneath
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: kind of went goes to Shakir, especially now with no
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: don't Kincaid, you could see more of that. So I
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: don't mind Tom Shakir. I like him quite a bit
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: from the Bill side. Outside of that, it's kind of
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: close your eyes and pick I mean Kean Coleman, I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: don't love him. I probably jumped down to the cheaper guys. Collins,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: who's been looked at in the red zone a ton,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: he's thirty six hundred, and then Curtis Samuel Moore, the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: kind of underneath slot gadget guy type thing. You could
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: see more of that in a game like this, right,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: just hit the ball up quick, shitty weather kind of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: go to him. So those are kind of guys. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: then I'm with you. I've sort of loved Juwan Jennings.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He's my favorite wide receiver play, followed by Ricky Piersall,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and then it would be Deebo Samuel. I just don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: know him. If there's just something I mean, you're Kyle Shanahan, right,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: your season's kind of on the line the last couple
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of weeks, and you just have not gone to McCaffrey.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: You have not gone to Deebo Samuel. You have two
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: best players on your roster left right after I went down, Like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I don't understand what he's doing, if he's trying to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: lose these games right to get a better pick or
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: what his idea is here, But Deebo has not gotten
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the looks the last three weeks, right, kind of same
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: with McCaffrey. It's kind of a download trend for your
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: two best players, whereas Kiddo and Juwan are kind of
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: trending upwards. So that could flip on any any any
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: any game right. One game sample is kind of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: game you want to kind of pay to find out there.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But it's been gross and it's been very ugly for
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel, which is not typically what the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: case has been like last season and that so that's
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: kind of why I'm higher on Chuwan and Kittle and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Pearsal than Deebo and McCaffrey. But any takes on that, Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, now.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: That we're talking about it. I mean, Deebo hasn't been
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Deebo all season, but I mean if you look at
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this forty nine ers team, I mean, he's the only
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: one that could take well and see him see at receivers.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: He's the only one that could take a screen pass
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and take it eighty yards to the house. He could
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: catch a two yard you know, a slant and just
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: break through there. He could take an end around. So
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I do like his upside. And you know we're over
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: here talking bad about him. I mean everybody's probably thinking
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the same way that we are, right, so he'd probably
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: come in super low own. He is priced up there
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I actually hope Kean Coleman sits. It makes it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It makes it a whole lot easier. That would if
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he sits. He's questionedbed right now if he and I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: would like Shakir a lot more. Should he sit? I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: know they play different positions, but I just feel like
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: he would. Shakiir would get get a bump should he
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: miss again. So I hope he misses. Mix it condenses
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it even more. But Deebo might be a good GPP
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: play ads now that now that we're talking about it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: If no one's going to be on him. They should
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: say no one. I mean, obviously he'll come with some ownership,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: but lower than those other receivers.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely gonna be loll on because he sandwiched
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: between Brock Party and George Kittle, right, and you click
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the game logs, Kittle has a way better game log
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and naturally people just want to play quarterbacks, right, So
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I don't hate it. From the game theory perspective, he
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I definitely prefer Debo over McCaffrey, for for sure, because
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, Deebo kind of does a lot of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: similar stuff that McCaffrey can do. Right. Obviously there are
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: different players and that, right, McCaffrey's better and all that,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: but I mean he's still kind of their Swiss army knife,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: right for for Debo. Debo is so now that you
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: say that sandwich between those two guys, I don't hate him,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: but again, still not a spot.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I just man nine k for I get it, he
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: does have it, but he's got to do something right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: He's got to do it. He's got to go out
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: and do that ceiling right in a game like this,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: He's got to outscore Party. He's got to outscore Kittle.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: He's got to outscore games Cook even probably right, it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: just hard to especially if you're going Josh Allen on
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: top right, which the field wants to do. It's just, man,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much people go to go to
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: go to a guy like like Deebo in that range there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: So to your point, could be a good tournament play there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Let's jump to the tight end position and kind of
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: around the show out here. Obviously cave is out here,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: so you get Dawson Knox in play here at a
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: super cheap price point. They've been known to go this
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: dude's way, right, they know who Dawson Knox is. Six
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: targets last week for forty yards, three targets for forty
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the game before that. He's thirty five hundred tight con
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: on the tight ends here. Obviously we both like kit
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: all the time, but I think he's backup tight ends.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Come come in to play here for you tonight.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I have a I don't know if this take is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: contrained or not, but my take is you you go
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to Kittle, he's fine, and you go to every other
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: tight end in your in your ship to miser and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you click that little X button on every other tight end,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and then you click that little X. You go boom
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. You take Dalston Knox out of
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: your play a pool, you play, you take Eric Cybert,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you played this Morris Cat. Yeah, you just x them
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  Speaker 1: all out and then you then you then you're ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the field because none of those guys will be
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  Speaker 1: on the winners at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's what's Quinton Morris's price? He did get the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: target last week is out? I mean, if he's two
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 1: He's sixteen hundred, he could be free and I wouldn't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: play that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's still that's still tough. But hey, I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: not gonna x out these guys because I just know
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: what tight ends do. I mean, they could easily just
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: show it right off pans Re or end rightin Knox Dalson.
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  Speaker 1: Knox will not. If Dalson, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull
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  Speaker 1: a hoop, I'm gonna I'm gonna do a shoey. If
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  Speaker 1: Dawson knots on the winner, I'm gonna I'm gonna one
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  Speaker 1: up hoop. I might even borrow hoops Dong Bong and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: go a little dong bong. Oh boy, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: Did you hear this?
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  Speaker 2: We might have a dog bong action if Dawson Knock.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: If Dawson Knox is on the Winner, Hamdwich is doing
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  Speaker 2: a dong bong shoey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Hoop. I can't have that on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: I got kids, I got I got things going on.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do a shoey in honor of Hoop.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Ham's doing a shoey on honor Hoop. If
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  Speaker 2: Dawson Knox at four K is on the showdown Winner here, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think there's a good shot. We expect
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Buffalo to score points. Majority of this.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Total is on the Buffalo side.
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  Speaker 2: They like their tight ends. Dawson Knox is four k.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: He's nice. So I like Dawson Knox.
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  Speaker 1: I like Kid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not messing with these other guys Sowburts or
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Quin Morris is really yeah, not much more to say
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: on that. I'm not gonna stop.
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  Speaker 1: Play this slate. I'm just gonna just hope. I fada
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: fada dalson. I don't want to do a lot of shoeies.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, come on, all right, Kickers and defenses. Here
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  Speaker 2: you got Moody at five two, he's back right forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers defense at thirty two hundred, and then on
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  Speaker 2: the flip side got Tyler bass of fifty four. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: then you got the Bills defense sandwich between the kickers
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  Speaker 2: or right below the kickers at five k an he
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: takes on the kickers and the defenses here. I know
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: it's cold, I know it's gonna be some win there.
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  Speaker 2: It's outside, so usually not the greatest kicking environment there,
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  Speaker 2: but two decent real life kickers there and then forty
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: nine ers have been decimated on the defensive front. But
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: all it takes is one one mistake. Josh Allen's been
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: known to make mistakes. He's been better about it as
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: as of late. There but little scoop and score a
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: little jumper routes something like that at thirty thirty two hundred.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're they're the craziest play. I definitely
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: prefer them over the Bills defense at the price point
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I think here, but still not a spot that I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: really want to low it up. I'm just not a
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: defensive slappy. I just usually underweight on defense. Friday Black
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Friday game. First thing, I did when my ship Deviser
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was hit the ex button next to the Chiefs. That
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: worked out pretty well and they were super popular there.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So what's your take on kickers in ded here tonight.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been the year of the kicker, it really has.
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  Speaker 1: But man, I don't know in the elements you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Missouri Arkansas. We saw it yesterday in the college game.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: There's snow level over that field. There's gonna be snow
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and cold. No kickers for me. But man, I love
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: this Bill's defense. They are pricey at five thousands, so
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: they will have to do something. But like I alluded
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to earlier, missing two starting offensive lineman brock Perty has
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: been banged up. A third offensive lineman is you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a limited participant, limited participant and then he practiced full
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: on Friday. But man, I think this this defensive line
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: has been very, very solid the last couple of weeks
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: contained my homes. I love the Bill's defense this week
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: at five yeah, five thousand, and then I mean I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: get it that the the Niners defense is is banged
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: up at thirty two hundred dollars for a team with
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Ward and.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: What is his name?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: What's that middle linebacker Fred Warner. I mean, yeah, those
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: are two, you know, and Fred Warner one of the best,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: if not the best midal linebacker in the game. So
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you said it, anything, they could turn the game on
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: its head. But Bill's defense, I think is a great
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: spot and they'll be popular. So you know, easy fade
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and GPPs if you wanted to, But I will have
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: some Bills defense because I think they're in a great
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: spot today.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I say about the Bills defense
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: is number one, they're not priced up to where like
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs were. The Steelers were of two prect time
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: slates in the past, and both the Kickers are right
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: there two hundred bucks in four hundred bucks more than them.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold them and check. All three of them
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: are projected right around twenty ish percent ownership amongst the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: three of them. So hey, if you like the defense
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: more and you're kind of under on the Kickers, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: can just allot some of that ownership right to the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Bills and that that's how you can easily get leverage
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: on the field there. So I don't hate that kind
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: of goes with our teams cook scripts right the back
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: deep DST pairing there, So I don't hate that. Kickers
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: are fine. This is a spot where I'm kind of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: under on the kickers, so naturally both kickers will hit
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the optimal. Just that's the way Showdown goes, and that's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the way the season has been. But I think both
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: are fine. I prefer Moody. I think more right McCaffrey
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: at debo. Something breaks, a play gets in between kind
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of between the twenties, right, and then they kind of
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: stall out with that defense. Kick a field goal there,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: take your points on the road there, So I don't
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: hate that. But yeah, I like both defenses here a
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: decent amount and then kind of a little bit under
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: on the kickers. But that's kind of everything here. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: know we went pretty in depth here, but it's a good, good, good,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: uh pretty good Showdown slate here tonight. I've had a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: bunch of near misses lately in Showdown right one be
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: ones and just kind of bad scripts there. But looking
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  Speaker 3: Before we get onto here.
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  Speaker 1: No big deal there, but no, appreciate, appreciate breaking breaking
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  Speaker 1: this dame game down with you should be a good one.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the FanDuel main slate as well, so looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to that. Appreciate everyone tuning in.
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