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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers 10-Win Wagon · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: Because I think it's true that Bryce Young is much
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  Speaker 5: better than he's ever been before. And this is clearly
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  Speaker 5: a quarterback playing well in a well-constructed offense. But the
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  Speaker 5: throw to Darren Waller, he has like a rusher kind
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  Speaker 5: of in his face. I think one of his guards
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  Speaker 5: or maybe his center kind of gets pushed back into
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  Speaker 5: his face. And he has to make this throw with
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  Speaker 5: the guy in his lap. And it's down the middle.
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  Speaker 5: It's like 45-yard throw. And he just leaves it 10
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  Speaker 5: yards short. That's basically the same exact throw that CJ
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  Speaker 5: Stroud made. Where he rips a bomb to Jalen Knoll
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  Speaker 5: with a free rusher in his face. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 5: When I talk about having size and talent, it's like,
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  Speaker 5: do you make that throw eight times a year and
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  Speaker 5: that's it? You don't make it every game?
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 5: But those throws are going to be the difference to me.
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  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Just to prove, Bone, that we're not cherry-picking and we're
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  Speaker 2: not just picking out guys only that praise Bryce, I
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  Speaker 2: give you Derek Klassen. That is the athletic football show,
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  Speaker 2: and he has been a dude that's been pretty tough
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  Speaker 2: on Bryce from the get-go.
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  Speaker 3: Still not buying in.
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  Speaker 2: Bringing up the underthrown ball while getting hit to Waller,
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  Speaker 2: comparing him to C.J. Stroud— we hadn't heard that before— And
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  Speaker 2: Stroud made the throw, and Bryce did not make the throw.
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  Speaker 3: Arm strength is not everything.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I think Bryce's arm strength is better,
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  Speaker 2: I think, than people think. But arm strength is far
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  Speaker 2: from everything. pre-snap than when you process and go through
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  Speaker 2: your reads. Calmness and poise in the pocket, ability to
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  Speaker 2: make plays off schedule when under pressure. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't have, you know, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: say on that throw, oh my God, I saw his
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  Speaker 2: lack of arm strength.
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  Speaker 3: How many times, Bone?
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  Speaker 2: The guy that is second in the league in total
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  Speaker 2: deep completions this year, according to PFF. How many times
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  Speaker 2: have we seen him step into throw while getting absolutely
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  Speaker 2: clocked and hitting it downfield? Like, let's not act like
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  Speaker 2: he does not hit downfield passes while getting hit.
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  Speaker 6: Arm strength is not everything. We talked about this when
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  Speaker 6: he was drafted, Matt. Look at some of the best
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  Speaker 6: to ever play the game. They all didn't have hoses.
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  Speaker 6: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. There are guys that are the
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  Speaker 6: best ever. Joe Montana, the best ever to play this
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  Speaker 6: game back, weren't blessed with rocket arms. And there are
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  Speaker 6: guys that had rocket arms that didn't do anything. Your
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  Speaker 6: Jeff Georges, your DeMarcus Russells, those guys who had the
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  Speaker 6: howitzers for arms but couldn't play the position. Give me
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  Speaker 6: the guys that play the position regardless of arm strength.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so tired of arm strength. 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, does Bryce have physical– I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: I want to say limitations. Does he have physical things
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  Speaker 2: other guys don't have that are feathers in their cap?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But Bryce has his own things that he does well,
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  Speaker 2: and he does better than other people. And is it
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  Speaker 2: Robert Mays that is the host of that show, the
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  Speaker 2: athletic football show, Bo?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's Robert Mays. No, it's not Robert Mays. It's
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  Speaker 3: Robert Mays.
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  Speaker 2: Robert Mays, he said, OK, he says, I can see
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  Speaker 2: that Bryce Young has some physical things that don't match
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  Speaker 2: up with other quarterbacks. But but can we concede that he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, is playing great and making up for it
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  Speaker 2: in other areas? And that's all I would like to say.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you said it well, Bone, about the
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  Speaker 2: history of dudes that didn't have cans. You could also
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  Speaker 2: do the flip side. Kyle Bowler. Jeff George. You could
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  Speaker 2: do the flip side of dudes. I just said those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought. I just said Jeff George and DeMarcus Russell.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know you went the flip side. I thought
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  Speaker 2: you only did the Joe Montanas and the Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 3: No, then I went.
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  Speaker 6: There's also guys that had rocket arms like Jeff George
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  Speaker 6: and DeMarcus Russell.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what he said. What he said. The defense rests. Finnegan.
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  Speaker 3: Can I get a little mop up there a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Clean that aisle up, baby. A little mop there? Clean
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  Speaker 3: that aisle up.
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  Speaker 8: At some point, there's got to be a punishment for
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  Speaker 8: when someone's not listening. I don't know what the punishment is,
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  Speaker 8: but it happens too frequently.
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  Speaker 3: Those that get caught have to take you to watch.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: Do something to a person's ears when they don't listen,
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  Speaker 3: like an ear flick or something, a little ear flick. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 6: Let's try it out on you, Mac. I have sensitive ears.
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  Speaker 6: Big old ear tug here.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, let's talk. What about a wet Willie? What if
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: you got a wet Willie from Willie? Wet Willie in
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  Speaker 3: the ear? What about a wet Willie from Willie? That
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  Speaker 3: could be it.
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  Speaker 1: Ow!
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  Speaker 2: Finney coming over and flicking. But he flicked my headphones
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  Speaker 2: and now it hurt his hand.
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  Speaker 3: That's like punching a guy wearing a helmet. What are
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  Speaker 3: you doing over there? Oh, my gosh. This texter, 980 number.
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  Speaker 2: Someone had the audacity to point out that Bryce is
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  Speaker 2: not a perfect quarterback and Mack and Bone are disheveled.
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  Speaker 3: That is not what we said. I like what we said.
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  Speaker 3: Now that I know what Bone said, I like what
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  Speaker 3: he said. I am completely shoveled.
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  Speaker 2: Completely shoveled. All right, let's talk Panthers. Hornets talk. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk our way.
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  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy, by the way. Not as strong on him currently. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Great call. Good job, Five More D. Great call, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 8: The problem isn't that he's getting pointed out for being perfect.
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  Speaker 8: It's the problem with Steven Ruiz, Mac. It's these guys
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  Speaker 8: that from the moment Bryce came into the league, they've
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  Speaker 8: doubted him.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't want to change their take or completely
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  Speaker 2: give him the credit he deserves.
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  Speaker 8: It's okay to admit that you were wrong. We do
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  Speaker 8: it for four hours Monday through Friday on this show.
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  Speaker 8: If you've got people like Derek Lassen, this doesn't want
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  Speaker 8: to give the guy any credit for the growth and
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  Speaker 8: development of a guy that is living up to his
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  Speaker 8: potential as a former No.
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  Speaker 7: 1 pick.
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  Speaker 3: It's a stubbornness, it feels like.
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  Speaker 6: Could Bryce use Mag at times, the size thing, to
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  Speaker 6: his advantage also because he's always underestimated? That people think
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  Speaker 6: because he's small they underestimate him, but they find out
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  Speaker 6: how good he is. I wonder if he actually uses
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  Speaker 6: it for his advantage at times, more so than— the
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  Speaker 6: disadvantage people bring up all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I know this.
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  Speaker 2: What have some of the doubters said about him? At
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  Speaker 2: that size, good luck throwing over the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: field in the NFL. Well, yesterday I saw a chart.
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  Speaker 2: He is the No. 1 most accurate thrower of the
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  Speaker 2: football in the middle of the field in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 8: And when he's not accurate, you know what's happening? His
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  Speaker 8: offensive linemen, Luke Fortner, Robert Hunt, they're getting blocked into
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  Speaker 8: his face.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that he can't stand there and make the
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  Speaker 4: throw because he can't see.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to focus on the fact he is
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  Speaker 2: the most accurate, the most accurate Fiddy. I was not
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  Speaker 2: going to fame our boys up front, although they've had issues.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, and I guess to Fiddy's point, he has
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  Speaker 2: been one of the most pressured quarterbacks in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: and he's still done that.
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  Speaker 6: Multiple texters now saying that Jeff George had a big
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  Speaker 6: arm also. I don't know if we brought that up
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  Speaker 6: or not. Did we both say Jeff Schultz?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be mocked now. I see you mocking. I
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  Speaker 3: see what you're doing. You mocking birds.
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  Speaker 2: Panthers 24-7 says Bill Barnwell says he can't throw over
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  Speaker 2: the middle. By the way, Panthers 24-7, are y'all the one?
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  Speaker 2: I think you're the one I took the tweet from.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're the one that tweeted out that.
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  Speaker 4: That's correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Good work by you, 24-7. You caught that, Derek Klassen,
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Slander, in doubt. and it's on the big show
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  Speaker 2: right now, and now we're airing our pettiness. All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about this 10-win wagon conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I realize that this isn't going to go over well
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  Speaker 2: with everybody. There will be a lot of people right
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  Speaker 2: now whose initial reaction is, Matt, could you not just
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  Speaker 2: stay at nine wins? Why do you have to make
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  Speaker 2: a big to-do, pomp and circumstance that you are now
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  Speaker 2: going back to the 10-win wagon? I dropped off the
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  Speaker 2: 10-win wagon bone when the injuries were happening to guys
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  Speaker 2: in the trenches up front, the O-line injuries. the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: score and injury. And I went down the nine wins
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  Speaker 2: and I've been pretty comfortable there. Um, uh, it got,
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  Speaker 2: you know, after the bears game, I had to stay strong.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't want, didn't want to overreact. I stayed at nine wins.
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  Speaker 2: The way this thing appears to be coming together for me, bone,
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  Speaker 2: I have to, I have to jump back on the
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  Speaker 2: 10 win wagon, whether I'm wanted there or not. I
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  Speaker 2: just look at the way, what a great day. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the way Bryce is playing. Look at the way
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  Speaker 2: the offense is running the football in the second half
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  Speaker 2: and putting games away. Look at the way T Mac
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  Speaker 2: and Coker are playing. Look at the way the tight
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  Speaker 2: end rooms coming around. They got Taylor Moten back and
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line had its best pass protection day in
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  Speaker 2: a while. And the defense, third in EPA since the
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  Speaker 2: horrid Bears game. And then at some point, they will
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  Speaker 2: get even better on defense when they get Horn and
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  Speaker 2: Mike Jack back. And, oh, by the way, we got
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  Speaker 2: a game-and-a-half lead, Fitty, and our division is still dog-due. Like,
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  Speaker 2: is this— the 10-win wagon is the place to be, right?
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  Speaker 4: It most certainly is, Mac.
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  Speaker 8: And don't look now, but the schedule on Sunday, if
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  Speaker 8: Carolina could win— With the way the division falls with
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  Speaker 8: the other games, they could really start to get some cushion.
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  Speaker 8: I thought the best point you brought up is what
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  Speaker 8: we've seen defensively.
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  Speaker 4: Post week one, third in EPA.
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  Speaker 8: That's where my faith and my belief is because the
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  Speaker 8: offense is there. This is, bar none, one of the
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  Speaker 8: best offenses in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to put up points. They're going to put
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  Speaker 4: up yards week in, week out.
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  Speaker 8: But it's what we've seen, how that defense has responded.
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  Speaker 8: While still not being completely healthy, that has me feeling
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  Speaker 8: giddy as they get healthier. This is going to be
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  Speaker 8: a team that's not just competing to win a division title.
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  Speaker 8: I think they will compete for legitimate playoff position down
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  Speaker 8: the stretch of the NFC.
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  Speaker 6: Can I say something back about the 10-win wagon? Because
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  Speaker 6: I am officially back also on the 10-win wagon. I
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  Speaker 6: was on the 9 Express there for a while. Am
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  Speaker 6: I wrong to think that the 11 train could also
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  Speaker 6: be in play here?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man!
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  Speaker 6: You're trying to go 11 heaven? Does anyone else want
• 9:48
  Speaker 6: to catch the 11? You've been on the 11 train,
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  Speaker 6: or the 11 heaven train, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's where I started.
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  Speaker 8: Remember, I dropped down to 10 because of the injuries,
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  Speaker 8: went back up to 11 because of fan fest.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that's what it was. I knew fan fest played
• 10:01
  Speaker 6: a role. We have dates on here. It says something,
• 10:04
  Speaker 6: August Finney got his balls back. Then that got crossed out. Yeah, well,
• 10:10
  Speaker 6: that's when he started dating his girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: I lost those in October.
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  Speaker 6: Matt, can you take a photo of what the wagon
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  Speaker 6: looks like right now? It looks pretty messed.
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  Speaker 3: Up right now. Yeah, we're going to have to put
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  Speaker 3: this up online. It survived.
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  Speaker 2: Much like the Panthers survived 59 points a loud bone,
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: they survived a rough loss to Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're up over 500.
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  Speaker 6: We found it on the side of 77 after Chicago game.
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  Speaker 6: Another thing I want to point out, too, is when
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  Speaker 6: you look at their schedule, I feel like, Bone, this
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  Speaker 6: super hard first place schedule, I feel like the Philly
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  Speaker 6: game was the first example of this. We've got teams
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  Speaker 6: that are on this schedule that don't necessarily look as
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  Speaker 6: scary now as they did to start the season. I
• 10:52
  Speaker 6: would throw Tampa on that list. I would Green Bay
• 10:57
  Speaker 6: starting to get it going. So maybe I'm trying to
• 10:59
  Speaker 6: decide if I put them on that list.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Denver, Denver's four and two, but their quarterback is getting
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: blasted wherever you look. He is playing such bad foot,
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  Speaker 2: unconfident football. I would also throw in bone a team
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  Speaker 2: like Seattle. You know, and we don't play them for
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  Speaker 2: a while, so maybe they'll have it rolling by then.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think there are teams on this schedule
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  Speaker 2: where you're like, they're not as scary as we thought
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  Speaker 2: that they would be.
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  Speaker 6: There's more teams on their schedule falling off than ascending,
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  Speaker 6: although Minnesota is one that's ascending. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: on there, even Cincinnati at home. Like, what is that?
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  Speaker 6: That's not an insurmountable game at the end there. So
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  Speaker 6: you've got Baltimore in there too. But this stretch right
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  Speaker 6: here is a lot more doable, and it already is
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  Speaker 6: with Philadelphia getting a win there, than it was Tampa
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  Speaker 6: Bay falling off. Green Bay's on a Thursday, so that's
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  Speaker 6: one of those– unpredictable type things right now, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there's a number of teams here that are nowhere near
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  Speaker 6: the level that we thought.
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  Speaker 3: No, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: So do you feel this level of optimism towards the Panthers?
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  Speaker 2: A 704 number says, Mac, well, you guys are making
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: great points and I feel all of it. I am
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  Speaker 2: as optimistic as I've been all season about the cats.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, why do you have to make a
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  Speaker 2: big presentation, production, and to-do about it? I don't think
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: he made a big deal about it. He just had
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  Speaker 2: me tease the last break. Good news, Panther fans. Mac
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  Speaker 2: is jumping back on the wagon. Who's with him?
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  Speaker 3: Is that selfish? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: You just want me to sneak up on it a
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: little bit? You want me to whisper it? You want
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  Speaker 2: me to make all my points and then whisper, I'm
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: on the 10? wind wagon now again like just yeah
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  Speaker 2: i just feel like i guess he feels like i'm
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: tempting the sport the fate of the mac or the
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: curse god's bone have heard.
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  Speaker 6: What i'm saying someone wants a castellanos mobile when mac
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: tries it and someone hits a homer while he's talking
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  Speaker 6: like tom brenneman.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: 704-570-9610. Walk Em Down says, we're going to lose to
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  Speaker 2: the Bucs.
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  Speaker 3: Now, aren't we?
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  Speaker 2: I am not taking that game for granted, even though
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  Speaker 2: I just down-talked the Bucs a second ago, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Because I do.
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  Speaker 2: I know they're saying that Baker will practice, but they're
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: preparing like Jalen Daniels is going to start.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I believe that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that might be a Todd Bowles bluff.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like it might be Baker time. At this point,
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  Speaker 6: Baker could be missing thumbs. He might play in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Baker just throw left-handed. If he can't throw with his right,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: he'll just throw left-handed. Looked like that's what he was
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  Speaker 2: doing down the stretch last year. Gas House Earl, I
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: for one, double down with Fitty, and the 11 wins.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Brian says, if you are not picking this team to
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: win double-digit wins, now that we've seen the division and
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: now that we've seen the Panthers play five games, you
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  Speaker 2: are an ignoramus.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great word. Very good word.
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  Speaker 6: Matt, do you know the last time the Panthers had
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  Speaker 6: a three-game win streak, though?
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  Speaker 3: Last year. Oh, was it last year? Didn't we have
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: one last year? Was it a three-game win streak last year?
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  Speaker 3: Was it Miami-Dallas Jets? Is that the three? Was that
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: in a row?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they went from one and three to four and three.
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  Speaker 6: Because right here it has 2021 when they started 3-0
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  Speaker 6: with Darnold, and that's when I got forced to take
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: a week off because I wasn't taking my vacation days.
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  Speaker 6: Terry Fox said he got to go home for a week.
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  Speaker 6: And that's when Willie P filled in and they won
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  Speaker 6: like two games the rest of the season. Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 2: So should we not let is the moral of the story?
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Don't let Willie on the air later today at nine o'clock.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Keep me protected if they win this weekend. You have
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: to be on the show, though, and then we're safe.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: It's not just a Willie airtime thing. It's a Willie
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: filling in for you.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: OK, well, note to selves, we won't do that.
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: No.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Last year, I think it was right, Finney.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: What was that? It was the games I mentioned, right?
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Or am I remembering? Am I misremembering? You're right, because
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: it was October 5th, 12th, and 19th. I don't know why.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: It was during the Rico Dowdle boom. Rico went freako.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know why it didn't pop up. This is
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: why you don't trust the internet, folks.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: We don't trust it.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: For people to think AI is going to take all
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: our jobs, I give you that right there. All right?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Pop it up, baby.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: You think you could get AI to come on here
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: and make this many mistakes on the Airbone?
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: And curse local sports teams? No. That can only be
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: done by real live humans. Let's see here.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: App State, Zach, if we beat Tampa, we would have
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: to go 6-5 to get to 10 wins.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Lock it up. 10-win wagon is happening.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: 704 number says Bryce's aura is so elevated that he
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: transcends the Mac curse. That is Matthews D.G., Ooh, we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: tempting it though.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: We're tempting the Matt curse now. Oh man. I just,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I like the, um, I like the positivity.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: This dude says with an Avero defense missing two corners,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: y'all are talking way too bold.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: What would you say to that?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Boney?
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: I think that's misinformed because you're focusing on just the
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: first game.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Have they been perfect? No.
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: But like a bad test score, take it out of there.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: And their defense has been just fine since the first
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: game of the season. They shut down to a certain extent.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: Bijon didn't get them. Gibbs did nothing like we thought
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: he was going to do. And as I said on Monday,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: what did Saquon Barkley do in that game?
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Nothing. Zero yards.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard me say this stat
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: in the last four minutes, but third in total EPA
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and EPA per play on defense bone since that first game.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: You know, and I saw this. This was juicy.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: So they put out, and this is way too early, obviously,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: but they put out what the playoff matchups would be, Bone,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: if the season ended today. And it would be Panthers
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: as the three seed hosting the Bears. And it's like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: give me that. Give me that damn rematch. Give me
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: this defense with a chance to avenge one of the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: most embarrassing days that I've ever seen for our defense.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Bring on the Bears. I would
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: tell you. You're saying no? Huh? No, I said bring
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: them on. That didn't sound very confident. Very confident. Didn't
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: sound very daddy-like over there.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Very confident.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Bring them on, baby. You got some issues over there.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I have no fear of the Bears. Okay, good, good.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I want you. I don't fear. I fear
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: no man. I fear no Bear. Not even Bear Bachmeier.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: That's better. That's better.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: When we come back, I'm a little timid about the Bears,
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: but I don't fear that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: A little bit. A little bit.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: We saw the first game. When we come back with
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: the Panthers, with the Hornets season starting tonight, we have
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: noticed the Lomelo trade is still killing many of the
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: bug fan vibes.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: We get into that topic. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: The Hornets trading LaMelo. It's just another one of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: bad decisions that the Hornets always make. Like, they just
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: can't seem to get their decision. And they got new
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: ownership now, so I don't want to blame, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: new ownership. They're just taking... But, like, trading LaMelo, I
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: didn't quite understand that one. And especially, like.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: It's finally started to seem like they're starting to figure
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: it out. You know, the beginning.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: How much did you care about Charlotte?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Like I was so invested.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Everyone was because it's fun.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: It's young.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: It's like, it's just wild, you know? And so where
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: it's like, they finally built some momentum, right? Like, oh man,
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: they get to the play in. You start to see
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: these young guys come together. Boom. Send LaMelo out. That
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: just sent them back another three to four years, at least.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: That is Draymond Green on the Draymond Green Show podcast.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Taylor Rooks is there as well with him. One of
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: those people is amazing. That would be Taylor Rooks. Spoiler alert.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely amazing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: We have played three regular season games in the NBA,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: and I'm tired of Draymond Green already.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: But Draymond is not going to help. It's a perfect
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: lead into this segment. And Bone made a comment while
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: that clip was playing. Bone says people who have hated
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Draymond Green for years— are all of a sudden going
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to text us now and say, Draymond's right.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Draymond's all over it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that is the same Draymond
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Greenbone that right before we started our hot run last
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: year in the final two-thirds of the season declared that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: we are blatantly tanking.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: And look what they did right after those comments. Also, Draymond,
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: I'm not so sure your team's not tanking.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Anymore. I mean, that's the thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: You're not exactly in your dynasty anymore. You are the
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: old guys at the home that still think you're good
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: from 20 years ago.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Old guys at the Y showing up, want to run,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and they get that smoke from the young bucks and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: lose by 20.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Like, that's a good point. You're not even really a
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: postseason team anymore. You might get into the play, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: that's about it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: That reminds me of Steph Curry's reaction at the presser
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: at Media Day when they informed him that they are
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: picked to maybe make the play in and he couldn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: believe it. It's like someone send a memo to these guys.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: But anyway, listen.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Draymond's got a lot of respect for LaMelo. Anybody that's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: played against LaMelo, I always loved guys that respected his game,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: would stand up for him when he was maligned. But
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think Draymond is looking at the big picture
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of the franchise here. And that's what Schlotkin want to do.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: That's what Jeff Peterson gets paid to do. And the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: LaMelo decision was a big picture, long game.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Um, move.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: It was not a, yeah. If Draymond's trying to say, yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: they just made themselves worse. I'm not disagreeing. I don't
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: expect this team to be as good without lamello ball,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: but my hope is bone that down the line, everybody
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: will see that's what they were doing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That that's my hope.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: You know, on the flip side, LeBron James has been
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: heavily praising the Hornets the last couple of weeks.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: So while Draymond's been negative and mag, a guy we
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: always trust with his words is LeBron James.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Praising the Hornets. Now we're going to do what the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Draymond haters are doing. We're going to now say we're
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with LeBron.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: LeBron's talked on Miller and Khan and unsolicited. It was
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: solicited from the standpoint of what young team are you
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: looking at that you like the way they're building and whatever.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: He's brought up the Hornets I think twice now.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I thought the one that was viral yesterday was the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: same one from last week.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: This is a different one. Was it a different one?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: You might be right though. I thought it was a
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: different one. Now that you've I saw the one two
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, and I don't know why it came back
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: up again.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I think it might be Hornets Reddit. If you want
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to hear what people are saying about.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Hornets Reddit, it's amazing. They're asking LeBron what young teams.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's different, because the other one was during their
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: season preview of teams and stuff.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's talking about Brandon Miller and Conby and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: potential all-stars. He can't say enough about the impact Nas
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Reid will have from a leadership and production standpoint on
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: this team. We've got to talk through this LaMelo thing
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: with everybody. And I don't want to act like a
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: jerk about like, because I didn't like the LaMelo trade initially.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I think we are taking a step back a bit
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of one, not a huge one in the here and now.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: But I have kind of moved on.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I've come to terms with it, Bone, over the last
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: handful of months with here's where we are. This is
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: what our management has done. I can see the rationale
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in it, even if I'm kind of bummed that we're
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: not running back last year's fun team. So I don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: want to act like, but I don't want to act like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: why are y'all not over it? I was kind of
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: surprised yesterday, Bone, that our Brandon Miller topic about his
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: contract turned into, Why the hell are we paying him
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and we couldn't keep Lomelo and that sort of stuff?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: What would you say to fans, Bone, about like.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: What would you say to fans that are just hung up?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: It's not the right words. I don't want to act
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: like I'm insulting or I don't understand why you would
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: still be bothered that the fan favorite and our, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: star point guard is gone. But like, what would you
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: say to fans that that's, they can't get past it
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: as a season?
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: I understand that they viewed that while we think anyway,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: that they viewed the Hornets as having a ceiling with mellow,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: that maybe they couldn't ultimately get past because whether it be,
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: style of play health, whatever it is that they're trying
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: to build a team that can not just compete in
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: the play-in, but can go into a series in the
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Eastern conference. It can be like Orlando has started to
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: be the last couple of years to be a team
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: that's in series. And I, I, I know that fans
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: will get mad when we say the word patience because
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: of what this franchise has been for the last 42 years. However,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I do think in this particular team, if they're not
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: what they were last year, if they have less wins,
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: stay the course still because... Because it's not only about
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: the now. They are building for the future. I know
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: fans don't want to hear that. But Weatherman Mark is
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: going nuts on the text line right now.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: About firing Jeff Peterson and all. I say this.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Let this man cook because he's done nothing but earn
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: my trust. Weatherman Mark is freaking out right now, by
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: the way. His timbers are shivered. His turbines are spinning.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: But he's Mr. Positive, though, remember? Weatherman Mark gets mad
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: if he's negative, right? It's a wonder Peterson didn't trade Miller.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: KB, KB. Oh, he's so disheveled he forgot who you are.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: He thinks Peterson's going to get fired if they don't
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: win over 25 games.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: This is what ownership wants him to do. Ownership's on
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: board with this way of building. Chris from the Tray
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: 4 says, we literally went into every season saying, if
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Lomelo is healthy, we'll be fine. See, I don't know
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: what his point is on that. Is his point that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: now that we don't have Lomelo at all, we're screwed?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Or is his point that, because I think it's amazing
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the way people seem to now believe that now that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Lomelo is in Minnesota, he will never have an injury again. Like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: a big reason why LaMelo was healthy last year for
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the stretch he was healthy for, Bone, is because we
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: had him on a minutes restriction. You think the Timberwolves,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: after all they gave up to get him, are going
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: to have him on a minutes restriction?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: 28 minutes or less?
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: They're going to ask him to go deep into the playoffs.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: And is he going to last that long? That's the
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: question about it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: And I don't, again, I am of the, like, I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: want LaMelo to do great. And I want us to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: do great. But I realize if LaMelo does great and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: stays healthy, everybody's going to throw it back into the Hornets' faces.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: But I wish him the best. But let's not act
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: like there's not still serious health questions with him. John says,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: we traded the injury-plagued guy, he's using injury-plagued in air quotes,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: only to see the guys that we need to step
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: up injured.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It is true.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: We've got no Kobe right now for tonight. We've got
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: no Khan and no Grant Williams tonight. They did start
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: individual work. They are doing that. So hopefully it'll be
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: sooner rather than later for those guys. But it still
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that there's not an injury scare with LaMelo
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: just because we got three guys hurt now.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You know, it's still very real.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: This is this is hurting into just someone. Barron said whether.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Weatherman Mark is getting destroyed on the text line. Weatherman Mark,
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: go eat a Werther's and chill out.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Damn, Marky.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Why are Werther's.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Catching a stray? That's an elite candy.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: It's a tremendous candy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Isn't that an old man candy? My Uncle Augie used
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: to pass those out like they were candy. Isn't that
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: old man candy, though?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: They were candy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: What's the matter, Mac? I still eat it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, what else do you do? Suck
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: on butterscotch? I have a question, Mac.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: We are old men.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm the oldest of the bunch. Fitty is definitely not old.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I did not expect someone at 30 to be into
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the Werthers yet. You are about to be in your
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Werthers generation.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: When I would go visit my grandparents in Tennessee, when
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: I'd walk in the doormat, my grandfather, that's how he'd
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: greet you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: He'd just throw a Werthers at you. Every time you
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: walked into the room, he had it in his shirt pocket.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Throw it at you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: If I'm allowed to throw it at Fitty, if I'm
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: now allowed to throw an object at Fitty, I might
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: buy some more.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: It's shocking that you throw these hands back. You say
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it was your grandpa, Fitty? Yes, sir. Fitty's grandpa threw
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: him candy like he was a seal.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Panther West says LaMelo wasn't a true professional like the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: other two guys. LaMelo and his family are immature. All right,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure we need to, even though there was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: an issue. There was an issue there with the mother
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of his children. But anyway, we won't go there. As
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: far as LaMelo, yeah, I said it the other day.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm trying not to do a lot of LaMelo slander,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: although I do want to point out he was not
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: some perfect basketball player. I just, you know, he was
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: extremely important. I didn't want him to be traded. But
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I can see why they can do it. I can
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: see why they would view Brandon Miller and Conn Knipple
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: as cornerstones to build around when they pre-chorn its DNA.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I could see why those guys or guys at this
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: front office would prefer.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: To build around.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Weatherman Mark wants to know now why he's being called negative.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's sending scathing stuff by Jeff Peterson. I said,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: there's Mr.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Upbeat again.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: And now he wants to know why he's called negative.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Just because he's got a differing opinion. It's because you're, you're,
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: you're trying to fire Jeff Peterson and you're not understanding
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: the collection of assets, the trade ship, the money. It's
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: more than just the mellow trade. You have to focus
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: on in this league, what they have to work with
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: going forward and not just the immediate trades that they,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: I understand why people do. But there's a long game
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: here that Peterson has. That's what I'm trying to explain,
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: and it's not working out too well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Weatherman Mark now says, tell that texture to go back
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in his mama's basement and suck his thumb. Mother Man
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Mark getting feisty, baby. All right, we're talking about... Just
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: brutal words from Mother Man Mark. We're talking about the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: angst that is in Bug Nation right now as they
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: get ready to open the season against Brooklyn tonight on
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the road, 7.30, tip 6.30 pregame here on the station
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: with Bone and KB.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: And, you know, are you over it? Are you past it?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And if not, why? We're trying to talk through this
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: whole thing. This dude says, if Mack and Bone expect me...
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to just move on before they even play a game
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that counts without my favorite player ever, then you got
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: another thing coming. I, that's why I tried to say,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to talk down to y'all.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like yell and be like, this
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: is ridiculous.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Get with the program. Like I completely understand it. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: do now have a been taken a backbone by the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: amount of it. I kind of thought more people kind
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of calm themselves down and said, let's give this a chance.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But clearly that's not the case. But I do understand it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It would be disingenuous if I get on here and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: act like it's not normal emotions to feel.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But I just think you've got to look at Kobe White.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Look at those numbers when he was on the floor
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: on offense. We finally found a guy, Bone, that you
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: can sit LaMelo down and not drop off a cliff offensively.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of advice coming in for Weatherman Mark
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: right now. Panther Bo said, go take a sip of
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: a Vernon's ginger ale.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Calm down. Oh, man. Let's see here.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Richie says, hope y'all keep this energy when we're 30
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: games under 500. See, I just don't understand that. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: do understand the, you know, we traded LaMelo. And the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: thing that really does it, Bone, is... Hornets fans loved
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: last year's run. They loved that team. They wanted to
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: build on last year's team. I wanted to build on
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: last year's team.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: It brought out.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Emotions in Hornets fans' bones that they hadn't felt in years.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And to all of a sudden just take LaMelo out
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: of it. I get it, man. I understand that feeling.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: What I don't understand is people that think this group... Again,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: if they get totally injury ravaged, that's one thing. But
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like for Richie to say when we're under 30 games
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: under 500, I don't understand why y'all think this group
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: would be that bad.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Like Kobe, Khan, Miller, Nas, and... Veterans and rookies. And Moussa.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And Moussa, right there. That starting lineup is damn good.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Last year's starting lineup, Bone, was one of the most
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: efficient in the NBA. If not the most efficient, I think,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: when they played... This year's starting lineup, I don't expect
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to be much of a drop-off because Nas is better
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: than Bridges.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And I think, again, the offense still functioned.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: It was a different way of playing point guard, but
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it still functioned at a really high level with Kobe
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And then you throw in Bone the Depth. that this
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: team has.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: And they've also, they've got young pieces. They've got veterans.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: They're there.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: They've got multiple things going on here. They're trying to
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: stay competitive now by also building for the future. And that's,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: that's important to, to recognize there. When we come back
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: here on the Mac and bone show, it's random crap.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: We have a bra that is $ 50 million. Well, Braun
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: versus the Nick fans last night, Jay Z with an
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: announcement of who will do the Superbowl halftime show. And Jay,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Do we really need a Star Wars Super Bowl alt cast?
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Nerds Unite on Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ. Or what they
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: call a new 50 nerd. I just meant Star Wars,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: like fans in general.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Like, unite.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Random crap, random crap, Mac and Bone talk, random crap,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: random crap, random crap, Mac and Bone talk, random crap, random,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: random crap, random crap, random crap. What the?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Deuce oh crap oh crap we stink like a baby's
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: blowout infested diaper.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: They talk about crap that is random it's the queen
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: city's favorite morning tandem mac and bone random crap mac and.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Bone it's time to have a little fun here with
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: some random crap and then the p-man joins us coming
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: up at eight o'clock Speaking of crap, 9 o'clock.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, daddy, yes. Love you, Willie.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Get out of here! We'll see what he thinks about
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: this Hornets team and the angst that's out there in
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Bug Nation. Still over to LaMelo Move. I do want
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to point this out. If you want to take the
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: fam or if you and three other buddies want to
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: head out to the Hornets Hawks home opener on Friday,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: we got a four-pack of tickets for you right now.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: All you got to do is text the word Hawks
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: to 704-570-9610. Text in Hawks and you'll be registered to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: win the family four pack for the home opener Friday.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Tonight's the opener on the road. Friday will be the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: home opener against Atlanta. Is weatherman Mark still active or
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is something else now?
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: We have a jerk tweeter today, Matt, not a texter
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: that was coming after me this morning.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And the flounder dog woke up early. for a little.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Flounder for a little scrap. It involved Duke talk. Flounder
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: stepping up and annihilating this guy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Flounder hates Duke, and he's like, let those boys talk
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Duke if they want to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: What would you say the amount of Duke-Tennessee talk was today?
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: Two and a half minutes, maybe?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's got to be more than that. Three minutes? Six,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: maybe five.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: It wasn't that long, though. They probably deserve more, honestly.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: It was only like 6.10 to 6.13 or 14 minutes.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: This guy, Hornet Panther 42. Pretty impressive. You guys are
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: talking about a Duke preseason win to a team that
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: lost by double digits to Xavier for the entire first
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: half of the show. Entire first hour, half hour of
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: the show. Opening night of the NBA, Panthers first in division,
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Hornet season debut. I had to point out 11 of
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: 12 segments today are about Hornets and Panthers.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Speaking of random crap, that tweets crap right there. This
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: guy woke up the flounder on the wrong side of
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the bed. Is this a Tar Heel fan that's scared
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of Duke? Because I got to be honest.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: He said he turned it off once we brought up Duke,
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: but yet he knew that we talked about it for
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: 30 minutes, though.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: In all actuality, he's 25 minutes off. Listen, Heels fans,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I love y'all. Y'all are a football school now anyway. But, like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I would be terrified. That thing looks like an absolute juggernaut.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: It really does.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a Heels fan or not.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That's my guess, because I don't know why else it
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: would bother you so much. But anyway, let's get to
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: random crap here, Bone. I see you turning this into
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a Duke segment.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Well, Fowler just took a random crap on your oatmeal.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Dukey fifth.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you saw an eclipse, Bone,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: from the Victoria's Secret fashion show from the other day.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I missed it. All kinds. Really?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was on. You could see who the...
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: They're all viral. It's all over the place.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: You don't DVR this thing?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't see it. What was the news?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You could see who the old married man is. Just
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: needs to sneak a peek at these things. But anyway,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: celebrities all over the place. I mean, it was a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: big to-do. Tate McRae performed in lingerie. But anyway, the
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: biggest story of the whole thing is Kylie Jenner walked
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the runway while wearing a $ 50 million fantasy bra. Diamonds
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: all over the place. A $ 50 million bra, Bo. Sound
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: like a bargain to you?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Do you buy that at Victoria's Secret?
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: How do you get one of those?
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Titty needs that for the Panda Victory Dance.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: He's got that 50 cent brawl that he wears when
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: he dances around.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: He's a dollar general. First of all, if Mrs.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Mack is listening right now, she's probably annoyed I admitted
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to watching clips of this.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But Mrs. Mack, I got bad news.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Your Christmas gift will not be the $ 50 million fantasy brawl.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: All right? It will not be that. What do we think?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: You seeing that would be a fantasy. So what do
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: we think about that? So what do we think?
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Whoa!
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Hey!
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: All right, what do we think, Bone, about these two
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: musical selections? There's a report out there that Jay-Z, whose
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: team and production company runs, is in charge of Super
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Bowl halftime show every year. There's a report of Jay-Z
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: picking himself for the halftime show for the Super Bowl.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Not a bad choice.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: 7-0-4-9-8-0. Let's go.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: There's also the news that U2 Bone will perform the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: halftime show of the Netflix Thanksgiving Eve game. I believe
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: both these would be tremendous choices. How do you feel
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: about this? I can't go wrong with Jay-Z or U2.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I have no issues with those at all. You two's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a no-doubt choice for that. And Jay-Z picking himself. Did
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: he have a board meeting, Mac, with that, with himself?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: He said, welcome, I'm Jay-Z here. I'm picking Jay-Z for
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl hotline job.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Is he going to, as Finney hits 7-0-4, is Matt
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: Rule going to come in, Mac, like drop.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Down from the sky? Here's my friend, here. Here's my question, though, Bone.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think all NFL fans will all agree that
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: this is great if Jay-Z picks himself?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You talk about something that will divide America every year.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Well, we have a lot of those things.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It feels like the Super Bowl halftime show because everybody
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: wants these perfect. They want their favorite artist to play
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl halftime show every year.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: What artist would not divide America if Dolly Parton was
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: still alive?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she might be the one. Was there anybody
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: else that could do that? No, I can't.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Someone will have a problem. If it's country, people will
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: be mad. If it's hip-hop, people are mad.
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: They'll never put a country music star doing the halftime show.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Unless Taylor Swift were ever to go back to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: country genre, they're never going to put someone from country
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: music doing halftime, which is unfortunate.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Have they never had anybody from country do the halftime?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Not that I can recall.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Because with Jay-Z in charge, he hasn't gone country, right?
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: He's done it the last couple of years, right? I
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: gotta be honest, Mac. I just want the Panthers to
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: play in the damn game. That's what I want. I
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: think Jason... I don't really... The halftime show, I understand it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I get why people are into it, whether it's good
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: or bad.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a good.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Game i want rooting interest in the game and i
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: want all the food i can eat.
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: Look if you're not in the bathroom at halftime clearing
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: room for the second half you're doing a halftime at
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: the super bowl.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah Finney's the guy that stinks up the bathroom at
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl party.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Is that true, Finney? Finney clogs the toilet at Super
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Bowl parties.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Sorry, NASCAR, Brad.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: Oh, man.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Listen, here's my attitude about halftime shows.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Until the day I die, every one of you is
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: playing for second place because nobody's going to outdo Prince.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Prince in the rain, man. Nobody is going to outdo
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that as far as I'm concerned. All right. What do
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you think, Bone, of all the different altcasts that ESPN...
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's noticed. ESPN might have mentioned
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: this once or twice.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: No, they had the game this year. They are doing
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: They might have mentioned this once or twice, ESPN and ABC.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: And they have all kind of old cast. McAfee, of course,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is getting an old cast down on the field. You
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: have the Mannings Manning cast for the Super Bowl. And
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: then you have some sort of Star Wars cast as well.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Disney and Hulu, because they have so many different subsidiaries,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: you know, networks and ways to do so. Who and
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Disney Channel or Disney Plus, whatever, will have.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: The Star Wars Altcast.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Mac, I understand some events, you know, will use a
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: lot of different, like, college football playoff games. Do we
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: need the Super Bowl to have this? What party is
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: going to air these things, by the way?
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, like.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: But imagine being at a party and someone puts on
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: the Star Wars Altcast. Now, is the Star Wars one animated?
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: It's like, I'm guessing it's animated.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Probably, yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: Like, maybe kids, right? Like, maybe that one's for kids.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Your guy Yoder's in there as analyst.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Listen, I love the Mannings.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: Um.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: The Super Bowl doesn't feel like a game I want
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to watch a Manning cast for.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: No.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: It feels like a game you want to watch the broadcast,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: then you want to watch the commercials. Even though they
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: seem to disappoint every year, you still want to watch
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the commercials. McAfee, I mean, is there anything they can't
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: find a way to squeeze this dude into?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, is there damn anything? I guess NBA coverage.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: If he pops up on NBA coverage, Bone, then they
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely have gone too far.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: We're tired of McAfee now. It's October 21st, right? The
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: way that he's shoved at us. Game day, all these
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: other things. How tired of McAfee are we going to
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: be by the time they hype up the Super Bowl?
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: You know you're going to get McAfee more and more
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: and more and more and more as we go along here.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: Do we think, Mac, we want to gather around on
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: that day that we look forward to and think, hey,
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: we could use more McAfee tonight? I'm already tired of
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: the guy. What's it going to be like in February?
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: I don't need to see more McAfee at the Super Bowl.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Give me my chicken wings and leave me alone.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: You have choices. The good news, Bone, is we have
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: choices to make.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I respect the Metallica fans that are saying Metallica would
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: be the best halftime show.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: You know you don't have to sell me on that one.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I'd absolutely love to see that one. What is.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I guess that's about it. It's Willie time.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It's time to go pee, right? Yeah, it's pee time, baby.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: It is pee time.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: And we ain't talking bathrooms. Willie P on the Hornets FC.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Thoughts on Wegmans and the great cheese debate from a
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: week ago. It's still going on in Willie's world. We'll
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: have that and more on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.