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Mission SONlight Chatt with Samuel Francis - Christian Entrepreneur · Mission SONlight CHATT

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  Welcome to Mission Sunlight Chat from Network
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  7 Media Center. We are at the St. Louis General
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  Conference Session 2025 where the church is having
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  its every five -year business meeting. And we
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  are in the exhibit hall as you're looking out
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  at exhibitors just passing by the front of our
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  booth and many other booths. We are thankful
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  to be here and connecting with ministries all
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  over the world, global leaders in ministry, serving
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  God and sharing what's happening in their field.
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  I want to say hello to our guest, Samuel Francis.
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  Yes. How are you doing? You are an entrepreneur
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  and ministry leader, and you have a number of
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  things you're going to share with us as well
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  as your own personal testimony. Thank you for
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  joining us. Would you begin us with a word of
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  prayer? Absolutely. Let's pray together. Father
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  in heaven, I pray that Jesus will be seen, that
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  Jesus will be heard, that Jesus will be known.
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  That's my prayer in his name. Amen. Samuel, before
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  we get into the, by the way, love the name. And
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  when I hear Samuel, I just want to do that low
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  voice. Samuel. Yes. Hopefully people know what
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  I'm doing. They just think I'm weird, which could
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  be too. So, Samuel, you have several ministries.
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  Before we get into that, tell me who Samuel Francis
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  is. Where did you start? Where did you grow up?
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  What part of the country or countries? Just what
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  is your rearing like? Tell us who you are. Yeah,
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  so I was born in New York City, Brooklyn. Wow.
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  And grew up there for about maybe three, four,
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  five years. That's another country for us southern
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  boys. Very different, very different. Then I
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  moved to Maryland, and that's where my formative
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  years were, Maryland, Bowie, Maryland, Prince
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  George's County. Went to school there, church
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  there, everything. From there, went off to school
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  in Virginia, missionary in Dominican Republic
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  for about 10 years, and then landed in Tennessee,
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  where I'm currently living today. So your history
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  was knowing Christ as a young person. Yeah, definitely
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  grew up in the church. For sure. When you say
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  the church, you mean the Seventh -day Adventist
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  Church? Absolutely. Not all of our listeners
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  and viewers are Adventists, so I want to clarify
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  that for them. Yes. And so your parents were
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  involved in the church? I mean, as a child, I
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  would assume so because I can't remember that
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  far back. But as I was growing up, they did take
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  me to church. That's what you've known. Right,
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  right. They didn't take me to church. It's not
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  like they were pastors or elders or anything
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  like that. Late people. Right. Yeah. They definitely
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  took me to church. Took us to church. Okay. You
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  say you went to college in Virginia. Was it an
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  Adventist school? Heartland College. Heartland.
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  Okay. Very good. Tell me about your experience
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  at Heartland. Oh, I loved it. For those that
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  don't know, Heartland College is a supporting
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  ministry of the Seventh -day Adventist Church.
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  It is not what we call an Adventist institution.
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  Heartland is just around the corner, so to speak,
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  from Thomas Jefferson's Monticello, his home
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  there in Virginia. I thought when you said Virginia
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  that maybe you went to one of the colleges in
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  Virginia because Thomas Jefferson famously began
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  a number of educational institutions. But Heartland
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  is there near Monticello. So tell me about Heartland.
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  What happened there with you? Loved it. I was
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  converted when I was 16. God got a hold of my
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  heart. And there was a church friend who had
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  suggested Heartland, but at the time when she
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  suggested it, I wasn't converted. So I was like,
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  I don't want to go. I'd rather go to business
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  school. I'd rather do my thing. But when God
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  showed me that ministry was his call and purpose
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  in my life, then Heartland, it was the school
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  that God had prepared to prepare me for ministry.
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  So as I hear you speaking, You wanted to do your
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  thing, but when God got a hold of you, you wanted
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  to do his thing. Oh, 100%. Amen. If somebody
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  was interested in Heartland College, I know that's
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  not what we're here to talk about, but we have
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  had leadership from Heartland come and talk to
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  us on Mission Sunlight Chat before. What would
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  you recommend to them? It's not heaven. No place
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  on earth is heaven. Know what you're going to
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  get. Make sure you get it. And then go give the
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  gospel to the world. Go for it. That's it. Yeah.
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  Go in with a smart way about you that nothing's
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  perfect. Absolutely. All right. So after Heartland,
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  what happened with you? So that's when I went
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  to be a missionary. So I did my internship in
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  Dominican Republic. I studied pastoral evangelism.
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  So my third year, that's where you finish all
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  your coursework. And then your fourth year is
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  overseas or in internship. And that's where I
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  did my internship, Dominican Republic. As that
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  fourth -year student, were people calling you
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  Pastor Francis? Yeah. Oh, yeah, as I was, you
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  know, serving in Santo Domingo. It comes with
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  a heavy responsibility when you hear that title,
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  doesn't it? It does. It does. But, I mean, you're
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  prepared for it. You know, it's not like, you
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  know, it's unexpected. Okay. Right. All right.
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  And after you did that for, I think you said
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  10 years? Yes, back and forth, serving there
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  in different capacities for 10 years. Family
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  yet or still single or what's that situation?
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  I do not have a family. Okay. As far as wife
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  and children. But one day? Oh, absolutely. Oh,
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  I'm off the market though. I'm off the market.
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  I do have a girlfriend. Okay. Absolutely. At
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  the time of this recording. Totally get what
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  you're saying here. All right, ladies, hold off.
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  Right, right, right. Well, so. As an entrepreneur,
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  you saw ministry opportunities. You came out
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  of the mission field and kind of put those things
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  together. I should backtrack a little bit. So
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  even before I went to Heartland College in high
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  school, back to the time when the Lord had converted
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  me, he introduced me to literature evangelism.
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  That was my first introduction to, you know,
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  full -time hands -on ministry. So as a junior
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  in high school, I spent my first summer canvassing
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  in 2008. And for those that don't know, canvassing
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  means you were selling Christian literature door
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  to door. Giving out literature on a donation
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  basis. Okay. You know, from 2008 up until this
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  year, the last 17 years of my life have been
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  heavily involved in literature evangelism from
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  the student level all the way up to the conference
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  level. All right. So what are the business slash
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  ministries that you've got going now? So right
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  now. I have a clothing line. God will provide
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  one of the T -shirts that we sell. So this T
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  -shirt is one of them in the clothing line, right?
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  Right, right. So the name of the clothing line
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  is Where Jesus Is, W -E -A -R, Jesus Is, Where
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  Jesus Is. Okay, I like that. Yeah. So you have
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  other shirts? Oh, yeah, there's other shirts,
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  other products. That's just one facet of the
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  business. And then we have the game, How Saved
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  Are You? Just came out with this. How safe are
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  you, Jordan? I'm just going to set that up here
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  and let the folks at home see that. This is a
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  game that's coming out. As we speak, it's still
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  in the beta mode. As a matter of fact, right
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  now, you can just go to HowSafeAreYou .com and
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  order it. Okay. You know, absolutely. And you'll
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  have it available in, say, how long? They can
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  get it right now. They can preorder right now.
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  They don't have to wait. They can pre -order
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  right now. Ship and ride to their own. Exactly.
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  All right, tell us. Hold on. I want to know about
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  the game, but we'll do that in the second segment.
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  Tell us the third ministry project you have.
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  That was the very first one. It's called The
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  Next Drop -Off. That's where everything began.
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  So The Next Drop -Off, that was like canvassing
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  was my heart and soul for 17 years. I mean, I
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  started when I was 16, plus 17, I'm 33 now. And
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  so, absolutely, that's what started everything,
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  the podcast. With the podcast came the clothing
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  brand, and then How Safe Are You? This is like
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  three months ago, brand new. Okay. Mm -hmm. So
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  you have pretty much been married to Christ and
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  focus on serving him. Mm -hmm. What a commitment.
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  Has that been easy? That's God. I'm human just
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  like you. There's ups, there's downs, there's
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  ins, there's outs. It's God's grace that has
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  kept me. I'm not the best model of Christianity,
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  but, you know. So I said to you, you know, what
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  do you say to youth and young adults about Heartland?
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  What do you say to a youth and young adult who
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  is interested in entrepreneurship? They feel
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  like God's led them to either start a business,
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  start a ministry, get out there and connect in
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  some way, whether it's in a commercial sense
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  or in a ministry sense. What do you tell them?
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  I mean, give them some practical advice about
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  how to go and how to move. First and foremost,
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  think. You would think that that's a common place
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  to start, but a lot of people don't think. Think
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  it through, huh? Have a plan. Think it through.
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  What do you want to do? Write it down. Write
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  it down a number of times. Write it down every
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  day to make sure that you're on a single track.
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  You can't chase two rabbits. That's where a lot
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  of people go wrong. But really think, what do
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  you want to offer? What problem are you solving?
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  Can God help you with this business? There are
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  some businesses God can't help you with. I was
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  going to add to your think process, pray. Absolutely.
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  Be prayerful. 100%. 100%. Of course, yeah, in
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  that meditation phase, you're seeking confirmation
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  from God with the gifts that he's already given
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  you. Because he wants you to use the gifts that
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  he's given you, you know. And then as you grow,
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  he's going to give you more gifts. It's kind
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  of like the parable of the talents. The one that
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  received five didn't end with five. He just started
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  with five. The one that received two didn't end
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  with two. He started with two. The worst one
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  started with one and ended with one. And so you
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  don't want to be that guy. You don't want to
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  be that server. Don't be that guy. Right, right,
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  right. Absolutely. All right. Think and pray.
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  And then take advantage of the resources. In
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  2025, there's no reason why anyone can't be successful
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  because all of the people who were successful
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  before us, they've either written in a book,
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  they've spoken on a podcast, they've given a
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  course on YouTube, and it's on Google. It's in
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  one of those four places. There's plenty of ways
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  to learn. 100%. 100%. There's no excuse why you
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  shouldn't be successful. Unless you're pushing
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  something that isn't really in God's leading.
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  God may want you somewhere else. If you're struggling
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  with success. Since this is evidently a Christian
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  platform, I guess we should define the fact that
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  there's two different forms of success. There's
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  worldly success and then there's godly success.
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  Regardless of what you're after, you could be
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  successful in the world. I mean, Christ said
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  you can get in the whole world and lose your
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  soul. To many, that's a form of success. But
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  in the church, success, I would say, would be
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  something that would reflect God's glory and
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  lead souls to the kingdom. Amen. Let's talk more
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  about the ministries. I want to learn more about
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  the game and also the shirts. Yeah. We're going
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  to do that in a moment. Before we continue with
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  Sunlight Chat. We are talking with Samuel Francis.
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  Samuel, I would like to say what business you're
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  in, but you're in the God business. You've got
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  T -shirts. You've got a game. And then the latest
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  thing that you're up to is? This game. How saved
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  are you? Absolutely. Tell us about the game.
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  What do we do? It says the game for your life
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  on it, but what does that mean? Right. So the
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  devil is seeking to. win souls just as much as
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  Christ is seeking to win souls. The difference
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  is Christ can save them and the devil can't.
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  And so he's asked us to be creative in becoming
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  fishers of men. And so essentially that's what
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  this game is. Consider it as a net. The game
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  is based off of conversation. There's three levels
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  of conversation. Icebreakers. You open it up.
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  While you're opening it, I'm noticing here it
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  says age 14 plus. Anybody. It's for the whole
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  family. Two to 20 players. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The
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  time to take. You can do it in 20 minutes. Oh,
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  yeah. You can do it in five minutes if you want
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  to. The question on the back says, are you saved?
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  Are you sure? Sadly, there are millions of believers
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  around the world who still wrestle with the assurance
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  of their salvation. Wrestle no longer. Yes. That's
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  right. Okay. Tell us about it. You've opened
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  it. Let me just hold that up for the camera here.
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  Oh, 100%. So they can see what's there. Oh, Jordan
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  was getting a shot on the other end. I pulled
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  it away. Sorry about that, Jordan. Yeah, and
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  so there's four levels. Join the community. Right.
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  You started with the icebreaker questions. Okay,
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  which one of those? Is that number one? Right.
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  Okay, there. All right. And if you will, I'll
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  hold that up over here. I'll trade with you.
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  There we go. Yeah, so that red deck, those are
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  icebreaker questions. Those are the questions
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  that are meant to, you know, get some laughter
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  going, you know, get the conversation flowing.
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  Everybody can participate. in round one. So that's
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  right here, the red one? Right. Those are the
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  red questions. Deck one. Then you go to deck
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  two. Those are deeper questions. Those are the
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  questions you really kind of have to think about.
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  This is where you're starting to get your feet
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  wet, so to speak. And then when you get to the
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  purple deck, those are the soul -stirring questions.
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  Those are the questions you really have to bare
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  your soul. And the purpose of the game is to
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  get everybody talking, regardless of where they
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  are in the spectrum of salvation, whether they've
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  accepted Christ or not. Everybody has something
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  to say. And then you go to the challenge cards.
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  That's the very last one. And by the time you
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  get to the challenge cards, you know, the challenge
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  cards vary. You could be writing. You could be
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  doing an impromptu sermon. You could be drawing.
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  You could be thinking of a podcast title. You
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  could be recording a video. You know, there's
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  so many different challenges. We want to get.
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  every part of the brain activated with those
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  challenge cards and after you do a challenge
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  card you go right back up to round one you just
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  do question one two three challenge one two three
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  challenge you just back and forth just like that
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  so there's a lot of dialogue and oh yeah so okay
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  i don't know if you worked with the psychologist
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  to come up with this but um I have had some therapy
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  because I lost my wife four years ago. And one
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  of the things that my therapist has done in the
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  process of my grieving and remarrying is the
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  importance of having what he calls 20 -20 -20
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  time with my spouse. And so each day we try.
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  We don't successfully do this every day, but
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  we try to spend 20 minutes. Superficial questions,
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  just checking in. In 20 minutes, we dig in a
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  little bit deeper. What was that like for you?
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  And then we dig in a little deeper and we talk
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  about maybe how it might have bothered us, how
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  it hindered us, whether that's a relational thing
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  between me and her or between her and others
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  or me and others or just watching what others
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  are going through. And then we might even have
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  an extra 20 minutes. That's where he says we
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  really, really, the rubber meets the road and
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  we connect in a bound way. Yeah. What I'm gathering
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  as you do this is I'm hearing that 20, 20, 20,
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  and then the extra 20. Absolutely. So there is
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  a, whether you intended for it or not, if you
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  were letting the Lord lead you, you got some
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  of that in this as you put this card together.
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  I want to notice here at the bottom it says H
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  -S -A -Y. That is the name of the game. How saved
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  are you? It's perfect for families, couples,
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  teams, schools, leaders, churches. I think that's
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  great that you did a game that two people can
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  play. Right. It can be a blessing for marriage,
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  for strengthening the spirituality of your marriage.
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  Absolutely. I like here, you've got some emojis,
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  loads of laughter, deep conversation, spiritual
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  connection, exciting challenges. I'm looking
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  at this brochure here, and I'm just going to
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  hold this up for Jordan to get in a little bit
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  closer here. Maybe I can help with that. There
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  is a QR code. Is it on that page? Yes, sir. Yeah,
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  there it is. Yeah, yeah. If folks want to connect
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  with the QR code, they can do that. We'll also
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  put information in the bio because you've got
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  a website where they can go. As you said, they
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  can pre -order this game. Absolutely. You know,
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  the Seventh -day Adventist Church for several
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  years was producing games that were... For the
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  family. And it was great for Sabbath afternoons.
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  And then we've kind of gone through. I get in
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  trouble with some of the publishers because I'm
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  sure there's some new games out there. But we've
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  gone through maybe not as many. This is a fresh
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  new game that folks can play. This is the best
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  one ever. End of story. Best game. Because this
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  is talking about the thing that matters most.
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  Absolutely. Your eternal life. Very simple. Easy
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  to play. You can play it anywhere. Take it on
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  the plane. You can take it to church. You can
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  take it to the classroom. You can play this game
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  anywhere. This is the best game, the best Christian
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  conversation, and it's indestructible. You're
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  saying that because I just dropped it on the
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  floor. Let me see that other box. I'll trade
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  the brochure with you. I just want to show this.
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  On the back here it says Romans 10 .13. Everyone
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  who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
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  Romans 10 .13. It's on both ends. Absolutely.
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  The game pieces, the game cards are very interesting.
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  I'm just going to pull one out here. That's from
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  the Red Deck. What's the most valuable thing
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  you ever lost or that was stolen from you? Explain.
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  I'm going to pull out the second one. Just randomly
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  pulling these cards out. There we go. Nothing
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  prepared in advance. Yeah. And Jordan, keep me
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  abreast of how we're doing on time. The second
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  card, what are three habits that have helped
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  you strengthen your faith? Okay, we've gone a
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  little deeper there. Yes. Just going to pull
• 19:06
  again randomly here from the middle of the deck.
• 19:09
  I know you probably don't like to call them a
• 19:11
  deck of cards because that can be associated
• 19:12
  with gambling, but that's kind of a deck, right?
• 19:14
  It sure is a deck. Okay. It asks us to read Numbers
• 19:17
  20, verse 6 through 13, and Deuteronomy 3, 23
• 19:20
  through 29. Digging into the word. I love that.
• 19:23
  Have you ever experienced a major disappointment
• 19:25
  or setback, and how did you handle that? Man,
• 19:29
  I can see a pattern here. With therapists liking
• 19:34
  this deck of cards. Yes. Going to pull to the
• 19:37
  challenge card. Absolutely. Are we ready for
• 19:38
  this? We're ready. Open the New Testament or
• 19:40
  Proverbs and start reading at random. Your partner
• 19:43
  or group must try and find exactly where you
• 19:45
  are reading. Keep reading until someone finds
• 19:47
  exactly where you are in the text. Yes. That
• 19:51
  is serious getting into the Word. Yes. And when
• 19:53
  you're asking the Holy Spirit to lead this game,
• 19:56
  because it's not just a game. Right. It's about
• 19:59
  salvation, and that certainly isn't a game. So
• 20:02
  I'm going to call it an exercise in faith. Yes.
• 20:04
  Faith exercise. Yeah. You can get deep. And if
• 20:08
  you go through this series of cards, whether
• 20:10
  you do it, like you said, in five minutes, five
• 20:12
  minutes a day, maybe you make it your morning
• 20:14
  worship. Right. Maybe you make it your Friday
• 20:17
  evening family time. Maybe you make it your couple's
• 20:21
  time. Maybe that's part of your 2020 with your
• 20:24
  girlfriend. Absolutely. With your spouse, with
• 20:27
  your kids. Great ways that we can find a connect.
• 20:31
  Indeed. Indeed. So the heart of the game is on
• 20:33
  the back of this brochure. There's three purposes.
• 20:37
  One is to help you get to know God better, right?
• 20:40
  So the questions and challenges with the altar
• 20:43
  of incense symbol, those are all about helping
• 20:46
  you strengthen your walk with God. Every question
• 20:48
  and challenge with the table of showbread is
• 20:51
  revolving around the word of God. And so that's
• 20:54
  where you're digging into the Bible, opening
• 20:56
  up his word and getting active there. And then
• 20:59
  the know God's people, these questions and challenges
• 21:01
  are all about the social aspect, getting to know
• 21:03
  people better, getting to know God's people better,
• 21:07
  showing, sharing your light with the world. And
• 21:10
  so all of the questions and challenges have one
• 21:12
  of these three symbols, and that's how you can
• 21:14
  kind of differentiate what kind of question you're
• 21:16
  getting into. Amen. I like the idea that it has
• 21:19
  the connection to the sanctuary. 100%. And that
• 21:22
  as it goes, it grows. Absolutely. Yeah, deeper
• 21:27
  and deeper. Samuel, we're going to come back
• 21:28
  and talk a little bit more, but I need to take
• 21:30
  a break. We hope that you are being blessed by
• 21:32
  our program today. And if you are, would you
• 21:34
  connect with us at missionsunlight .org? There's
• 21:36
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• 21:38
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• 21:41
  this ministry continue to share more of these
• 21:43
  stories behind mission and ministry. So thank
• 21:46
  you for that blessing. We are thrilled to be
• 21:48
  here at the General Conference Session Exhibit
• 21:50
  Hall in St. Louis, Missouri, in the United States
• 21:52
  of America. A lot of noise in the background,
• 21:55
  but that's the sound of ministries sharing with
• 21:58
  one another what God is doing. We'll be back
• 22:00
  with more Mission Sunlight Chat. Our salvation
• 22:11
  is a day -to -day matter, isn't it? The real
• 22:16
  principle of the Sabbath is reconnecting ourselves
• 22:20
  with the Creator. We must learn to abide in Jesus'
• 22:27
  name. We move ahead with our mission objectives,
• 22:30
  recognizing that we are serving together the
• 22:33
  Most High God. Welcome back to Mission Sunlight
• 22:48
  Chat. Our guest, Samuel Francis, is here from,
• 22:51
  well, from three different places. Remind me
• 22:55
  again, what are they? The game? How saved are
• 22:58
  you? Right. How saved are you? God will provide.
• 23:01
  Where Jesus is is the name of the clothing brand.
• 23:04
  And then the next drop -off podcast. Okay, let's
• 23:06
  talk about that podcast. Tell me about that.
• 23:08
  How can people find you and what's the purpose?
• 23:10
  Yeah, so I started the podcast because I wanted
• 23:12
  to... Create a community. I was extremely inspired
• 23:16
  by Eric Thomas, motivational speaker. But more
• 23:18
  than that, you know, community leader, father,
• 23:21
  husband. And I was tapped into his community.
• 23:23
  And I was like, man, every time I listen to an
• 23:25
  episode, I was like, man, this is good. I feel
• 23:27
  like I'm brothers with these guys. I feel like
• 23:29
  I'm there in the room. But this doesn't exist
• 23:32
  for Literature Evangelist. Because you have different
• 23:34
  groups, different conferences and whatnot. And
• 23:36
  so I was like, okay, God, how can I create a
• 23:38
  community where Literature Evangelist from not
• 23:40
  only the United States, but from around the world.
• 23:43
  can tune in weekly and find encouragement, find
• 23:47
  motivation to keep on going. And so I didn't
• 23:50
  know what to do, where to start. So I started
• 23:53
  where everybody should start on Google, how to
• 23:56
  start a podcast. Went through the necessary steps.
• 23:59
  And in about a couple months in 2019, from the
• 24:02
  moment the idea came to my mind, a couple months
• 24:05
  later, we launched our first episode. Do you
• 24:07
  have guests? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely.
• 24:10
  So season one, there's the multiple seasons.
• 24:11
  Season one was all about canvassing, literature,
• 24:13
  evangelism, training, motivation, testimonies,
• 24:16
  the entire world, interviewing, publishing leaders,
• 24:19
  summer program leaders, just everything that
• 24:24
  you can think of about canvassing. That was season
• 24:26
  one. Season two, we launched more so into your
• 24:30
  story of salvation, you know, not so much salvation,
• 24:33
  but more so your purpose, right? What has God
• 24:37
  called you to do? That was season two. Season
• 24:39
  three was the story of salvation. How God saved
• 24:42
  you. Where did he find you? That was season three.
• 24:46
  Season four was more so about how do you be in
• 24:50
  the world but not of the world. That's season
• 24:52
  four and five. So many of us were on fire on
• 24:56
  Sabbath and then throughout the rest of the week
• 24:57
  were on fire for somebody else. You know what
• 25:00
  I mean? But how do you stay consistent in your
• 25:02
  Christian walk? So that was season four and five.
• 25:05
  And now we're on season six where we're tackling
• 25:07
  the four biggest questions of your life, which
• 25:09
  is, number one, which God are you going to serve?
• 25:11
  Number two, how are you going to serve him? What
• 25:13
  area? You know, what are your gifts and callings?
• 25:16
  Question number three is who are you going to
• 25:17
  marry? Who are you going to serve God with? And
• 25:19
  then question number four, the biggest question
• 25:21
  is, are you going to bring children into the
• 25:23
  world? And if so, how are you going to raise
• 25:25
  them? Because that's the next generation. So
• 25:26
  that's what we're covering in season six right
• 25:28
  now. You know, as I listen to you, Samuel. You're
• 25:31
  not afraid to ask tough questions. Oh, man. No.
• 25:34
  Make sure that your girlfriend is able to keep
• 25:39
  up with you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's great.
• 25:41
  Just a little relational advice. Indeed. She
• 25:46
  won't turn to you one day and go, who are you?
• 25:48
  She knows what she's getting into. A man who's
• 25:51
  not afraid to ask the tough questions. Indeed.
• 25:53
  You know, but you're not doing it for self. Right.
• 25:56
  You're doing it for Christ. For Christ. Absolutely.
• 25:58
  So where God is. Where Jesus is. Where Jesus
• 26:01
  is. Yes. Yes. So that came about. That's the
• 26:04
  clothing brand. That's the clothing brand. That
• 26:06
  came about simultaneously with the podcast. So
• 26:08
  the podcast started in 2019, December of 2019.
• 26:11
  And we're getting ready to go to GYC. GYC Generation
• 26:15
  Youth Christ. Right. Yearly meetings they have.
• 26:19
  Love GYC. And, you know, there was no way that
• 26:24
  I could create merch. only for literature evangelists.
• 26:29
  And so I was like, man, what should I create
• 26:30
  for those who won't wear the canvassing merch?
• 26:35
  And so I was just thinking like, man, what could
• 26:37
  I wear? Or what could I create? And in that process,
• 26:41
  you know, Jesus is came to mind. Because I wanted
• 26:44
  to put something like Jesus is something, but
• 26:46
  nothing was coming to mind except Jesus is. I
• 26:49
  was like, all right, why don't we just leave
• 26:50
  it at that? Jesus is. And I put the dot, dot,
• 26:52
  dot, you know. And when we went to the UIC, that
• 26:56
  sold out. So I was like, hmm, we might be onto
• 27:00
  something here. So we kept making more shirts,
• 27:03
  hoodies, and things like that. And it's grown.
• 27:05
  I give thanks to God that it's grown significantly.
• 27:08
  And we're here to scale it, scale it all the
• 27:10
  way up. The word Jesus is international. Absolutely.
• 27:13
  Everywhere I go. Quick story. So that was the
• 27:17
  only shirt I wore from 2020 until... I was hired
• 27:22
  to be a full -time literature evangelist. So
• 27:25
  for that two -year period, I only wore Jesus
• 27:26
  Is. And one time, I was going into Publix, and
• 27:30
  a lady stopped me as she was coming out the store.
• 27:32
  And she's just looking at my shirt. And, of course,
• 27:35
  you know, I'm used to people just looking at
• 27:38
  my shirt. And so she's like, Jesus Is. She's
• 27:42
  like, Jesus Is everything. I was like, you got
• 27:44
  it. That's right. Jesus Is everything. And she
• 27:45
  kept on going, Jesus Is my best friend, sweet
• 27:47
  lady. And Becky was her name, Becky. At the time,
• 27:52
  I was getting ready to go on a canvassing program
• 27:53
  in the summer. And so I got her, you know, of
• 27:56
  course, introduced to the game. I mean, introduced
• 28:00
  to the shirt. And Holy Spirit was like, Sam,
• 28:01
  I want you to give her a shirt for free. And
• 28:03
  so I was like, hmm, well, that's interesting
• 28:06
  because I'm selling these, Lord. Why would I
• 28:07
  give her one for free? But Holy Spirit said,
• 28:09
  give her one for free. So I took her to the van.
• 28:11
  I carried the shirts with me everywhere I went,
• 28:13
  right? And so she bought one. And I was like,
• 28:17
  okay, I feel impressed to give you this shirt
• 28:19
  for free. And she's like. Wow. Well, I'm going
• 28:22
  to go ahead and buy that one, you know, for her
• 28:23
  husband. And Holy Spirit says, I want you to
• 28:26
  give her a shirt for free. I was like, Lord,
• 28:28
  I'm trying to give her a shirt. So I give her,
• 28:30
  I pull out another shirt like this. This one
• 28:31
  is for you for free as a gift. She's like, you
• 28:33
  know what? I do have a son. I'm going to buy
• 28:37
  that one for him. So she buys that one. I'm like,
• 28:39
  oh, my word. Holy Spirit says, Sam, give her
• 28:41
  a shirt for free. I was like, Lord, I've already
• 28:43
  pulled out two shirts. She's bought every shirt
• 28:45
  I pulled out. So I pull out another one. It's
• 28:46
  like, man, listen, this one is for you as a gift.
• 28:49
  I don't want you to buy this one. This one's
• 28:51
  for you. Long story short, as I'm getting ready
• 28:53
  to go on this canvassing trip to Texas, I said,
• 28:57
  I have a friend of mine you're going to love.
• 28:59
  And what I do is I get them in contact because
• 29:02
  there was an evangelistic series coming to Chat
• 29:04
  First, that church, later on that year. And so
• 29:07
  I get them connected. And when I get back from
• 29:09
  the canvassing program, my friend in Chattanooga,
• 29:12
  she tells me, hey, Sam, you've got to come to
• 29:16
  the evangelistic series because that's that.
• 29:18
  That person that you met, Becky, she's coming.
• 29:21
  And she brought her son. Amen. Praise God. Once
• 29:24
  you got the T -shirt for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:26
  Absolutely. And she went through the whole series.
• 29:28
  Her son went through the whole series. And at
• 29:29
  the end of it, her son was baptized. Wow. Praise
• 29:32
  God. Baptized. And, of course, very active church.
• 29:35
  He was invited on a mission trip to Mexico that
• 29:38
  December. And later on in March, he invited me.
• 29:41
  So 2021, he invites me. I go. He goes to Wichita
• 29:45
  Hills. Gets heavily involved in the mission.
• 29:48
  Man, just great story. And I was just like extremely
• 29:51
  thankful to God that a simple shirt could lead
• 29:55
  a soul to Christ. And now he's married now, serving
• 29:58
  God. And I'm just humbled just to know that God
• 30:03
  took something simple, you know, a nontraditional,
• 30:06
  and he's using it to save souls. I missed in
• 30:08
  the story what happened with Becky. Becky. So
• 30:10
  Becky was the one I met at Publix. Right. And
• 30:13
  she's the one that was just. fascinated with
• 30:15
  the shirt jesus is like turn around what's on
• 30:17
  the back what there's nothing on the back jesus
• 30:18
  is everything you know jesus is my friend he's
• 30:20
  my savior he's like hey man hey man she was just
• 30:22
  loving it loving and loving it and because i
• 30:25
  wasn't going to be in the area for long i decided
• 30:27
  to connect her with my friend right yeah yeah
• 30:30
  and so they kept in contact invited her to evangelism
• 30:33
  series she attended the meetings she attended
• 30:34
  the meetings with her son any results there yet
• 30:37
  Well, her son was baptized. She's still on fire
• 30:40
  for the Lord. She wasn't miserably baptized,
• 30:43
  but she loves Jesus. Oh, she's a Christian. She's
• 30:45
  a child of God for sure. No question about it.
• 30:48
  Praise the Lord. Absolutely. So, again, how can
• 30:53
  they get a hold of a shirt if they want it? WhereJesusIs
• 30:55
  .com. Okay. So, typically people do W -H -E -R
• 30:59
  -E, like location where. It's not location where.
• 31:04
  Clothing wear. W -E -A -R. W -E -A -R. Jesus
• 31:08
  Is. WhereJesusIs .com. And how can they connect
• 31:11
  with the game? HowSavedAreYou .com. HowSavedAreYou
• 31:14
  .com. HowSavedAreYou .com. Absolutely. And? And
• 31:17
  TheNextDropoff .com. And now The Next Drop Off
• 31:20
  just got on YouTube with Season 6. And so we're
• 31:22
  on YouTube as well. Yeah. Check out the podcast.
• 31:25
  Order your game. Yes, indeed. Order your clothing
• 31:29
  wear. Absolutely. Support our brother in Christ
• 31:32
  and help share the gospel. It's not just a purchase
• 31:35
  for self, but it's a purchase for the kingdom.
• 31:37
  Right, absolutely. So being a literature evangelist,
• 31:39
  I'm trained to go up to people wherever they
• 31:41
  are, in parking lots, businesses, houses, right?
• 31:44
  The whole spirit behind the clothing brand was
• 31:48
  so that people would come up to you, and that's
• 31:49
  exactly how it's been from day one. With the
• 31:51
  Jesus is line, I don't have to do anything but
• 31:54
  wear it. And people come up to me telling me
• 31:56
  who Jesus is. People come to me asking, like,
• 31:58
  Jesus is what? You know, like, what do you mean
• 32:00
  Jesus is? Because there's nothing else on the
• 32:01
  shirt. It's just Jesus is. And so, yeah, the
• 32:04
  conversations, they come to you. Praise the Lord.
• 32:07
  Yeah. Samuel Francis, thank you so much for sharing.
• 32:10
  I'm going to say Samuel Francis, the game guy.
• 32:13
  Yeah. It's a game for life. It's a game about
• 32:16
  eternal life. Yeah. Hold that up one more time.
• 32:19
  Just really excited about that. I'm going to
• 32:21
  be ordering one. Probably order a shirt or two.
• 32:24
  And then definitely want to check out your podcast.
• 32:26
  We want to also include your podcast connection
• 32:29
  to our podcast. Maybe one day we can join you.
• 32:33
  Yeah, that would be great. Jordan and I would
• 32:35
  love to do that, one or both of us, if that's
• 32:37
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• 33:18
  a defining word from God's word you want to say.
• 33:21
  Absolutely. So in this season, I'm studying the
• 33:24
  parable of the talents, where if you're familiar,
• 33:28
  you know that the servant, one of them got five
• 33:31
  talents, one got two, one got one talent, and
• 33:34
  the master went off. And it's just fascinating,
• 33:37
  the mindset of the two who decided to double
• 33:42
  their talents, and the one who decided not to
• 33:45
  do anything at all. And Jesus calls him a wicked
• 33:47
  and slothful servant. You know, it's not like
• 33:49
  Jesus had compassion and mercy, like, oh, poor
• 33:51
  guy, you know, you probably just didn't know
• 33:54
  what to do. Let me give you another chance. No,
• 33:56
  he called him a wicked and slothful servant.
• 33:58
  It's because that servant knew what to do. That
• 34:00
  servant could have asked for help. He didn't
• 34:02
  do it. And so it's been my, that was the story
• 34:06
  that led to my conversion. Of course, you know,
• 34:08
  I grew up in the Seventh -day Adventist church,
• 34:10
  but I wasn't converted until I was 16 or 17 years
• 34:12
  old. And it was that sermon preached that one
• 34:15
  day Jesus will come and ask, what have you done
• 34:17
  with the talents that I've given you? And it
• 34:19
  was that point that led me to stop and think,
• 34:23
  what have I done for Jesus? You know, what have
• 34:27
  I done for Jesus? And it was at that moment that
• 34:29
  I saw the cross and I saw what Christ did for
• 34:31
  me. And I was extremely ashamed of the fact that
• 34:34
  Christ gave all his life, his everything for
• 34:35
  me. And I hadn't given anything. for him. And
• 34:39
  it was at that moment that I got on my knees
• 34:41
  and said, Lord, the rest of my life is yours.
• 34:42
  Amen. Use me however you see fit. And so I want
• 34:46
  to be that servant that went out and put my talents
• 34:49
  to use and multiply them by God's grace. Amen.
• 34:52
  Yeah. Amen. Samuel, as we're wrapping up this
• 34:56
  episode, let's have a word of prayer to finish
• 34:58
  up. Okay. Generally, Father, we thank you for
• 35:00
  the opportunity to hear the work that Samuel
• 35:03
  is doing and the exciting things that he's doing
• 35:05
  to reach out to others. Not just your traditional
• 35:09
  ways of reaching people, but the clothing line
• 35:11
  that makes people ask questions and makes them
• 35:15
  think instead of just us always going to them
• 35:17
  and the podcast and everything that's involved.
• 35:21
  It shows us that you can use... use us in ways
• 35:23
  that aren't just traditional evangelism. And
• 35:26
  I pray that each one of us will look for a way
• 35:28
  that we can be using the talents that you give
• 35:31
  us, that we won't hide them, but we'll use the
• 35:34
  talents that you give us to further your kingdom
• 35:36
  and your ministry. Be with us as we leave here
• 35:38
  and help us each to find a way to use those talents
• 35:41
  that you give us. In your name, amen. Amen. That
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