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John Boyega Talks New Films "Breaking " & "Woman King', Star Wars, , Halle Bailey & More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, indeed, John Boyega. What's good morning, morning, morning, Welcome,
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Speaker 1: welcome you good great please King, how are you, brother?
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Speaker 1: I'm good Mine can't complain absolutely. You from England, from London, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: from London Southeast Peckham. Okay, yeah, Now you got two
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Speaker 1: movies coming out, but one is out already, The Morning
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Speaker 1: Too coming out, but the Woman King Breaking they cloned Tyrone. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff moving up. Yeah. Mine,
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Speaker 1: I was just trying to come back with with the
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Speaker 1: madness off the pandemic, especially you know what happened to
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Speaker 1: our industry. So yeah, we're just coming back with the
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Speaker 1: projects now. So for people that don't know who you are,
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Speaker 1: tell them who you are and how you got started interacting. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I'm John Boyega my thirty years old. I got
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Speaker 1: started in a British movie called a typ the Block.
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Speaker 1: Didn't really do well in the UK, but got to
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Speaker 1: really appreciated in the States, so that expanded my opportunities.
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Speaker 1: Came down here and then audition failed, tried again and
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Speaker 1: then I got Star Wars, and then from Star Wars
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Speaker 1: that's where I kind of got the opportunity to be
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Speaker 1: on the main stage or commercial and ship but got
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Speaker 1: you into acting, Like what was the actor that said
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Speaker 1: I want to do this because of that? You know what?
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Speaker 1: It started off as a social thing. I didn't really
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Speaker 1: fit in into all of the groups, wasn't really too
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Speaker 1: It wasn't smart enough for the academics, wasn't tough enough
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Speaker 1: for the big boys. And at the same time, you know,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't skilful enough for football and ship. So I
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Speaker 1: was then just with the performance kids. And they had
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Speaker 1: girls too, so I was just like, yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: better anyway. So I was just like, yeah, I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna chill here. And then from there, actually the passion
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Speaker 1: came after that actually started to take it seriously after
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Speaker 1: going through a few things and then just making some decisions.
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Speaker 1: That's what I was then toroduce to you via Star
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Speaker 1: Wars like, do you feel like that the whole conversation
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Speaker 1: about you know, a black person being a lead in
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Speaker 1: Star Wars, do you think that overshadowed your actual abilities
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Speaker 1: that you that you showed in the movie. Um, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Actually, I think with episode seven
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Speaker 1: with Force Awakens, I think people thought I was that guy,
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Speaker 1: which I found kind of hilarious, Like they thought that
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Speaker 1: I was the character, Oh my god, and that was
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Speaker 1: that was kind of confusing. And then you've got two
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Speaker 1: more movies and then people like yourselves are introduced through
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Speaker 1: the franchise. It's hard to kind of have that separation
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Speaker 1: and that detachment. But I don't I don't blame me.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the natural kind of that's how the
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Speaker 1: process goes with franchise films, Like it's hard to detach
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Speaker 1: yourself from the character. So yeah, that's definitely a struggle
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Speaker 1: and a grand conversation though, because you see what's happening
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Speaker 1: with Harley Bailey with The Little Mermaid. I saw that.
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Speaker 1: I've just put a comment on a page. I'm so
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Speaker 1: proud of her. I left a message. I'm so proud
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Speaker 1: of what I saw in that trailer. Yeah, I can't
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Speaker 1: imagine what she must be going through. They have people, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I know that's why I think it's important that
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Speaker 1: you spoke up and spoke out about it, because it
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Speaker 1: really did bring attention. I feel like I feel like
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Speaker 1: I spoke up about it and after in the aftermath,
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Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of corporate companies speaking out
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Speaker 1: as well, showing support and love, because I think it's
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Speaker 1: important for the companies actually to back the people that
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Speaker 1: they cast in the movie, just so that they feel
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Speaker 1: safe and feel protected. But yeah, it's it's it's tough,
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Speaker 1: but I suggest this time, rather than fixating on the
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Speaker 1: negative for her, we need to celebrate it and just
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Speaker 1: blind out the negative noise. That's that's what we need
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Speaker 1: to do this time. Yeah's how you say. You said
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Speaker 1: that you were the only chast member whose experience with
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Speaker 1: Star Wars was based on their race. Yeah, but especially
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Speaker 1: during the time of episode seven, just being the only
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Speaker 1: that everybody else it was kind of like, you've got
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Speaker 1: this role, You've got this first role, congratulations. Whereas with
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Speaker 1: me it was what, you know, what Haley's going through,
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Speaker 1: Like it was the backlash. And you find yourself when
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Speaker 1: you look at yourself and your opposite Oscar iszing you
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Speaker 1: Daisy Ridley, you go, wow, I'm different, Like my introduction
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Speaker 1: into this industry is different. How come Moscar is not
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Speaker 1: getting this response? How come Daisy isn't? And that just
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Speaker 1: you know, set you apart a little bit, like what
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Speaker 1: you said about celebrating it right, because I think sometimes
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Speaker 1: we tell ourselves sometimes that hey, maybe I'm just being
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Speaker 1: used as upon for diversity right where it was that way.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it does because for example, if you look at
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Speaker 1: my movie that I've just done, breaking, if you look
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Speaker 1: at when you go and see the Woman King, I
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Speaker 1: hope that you will find that raw this kid can
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Speaker 1: actually act. And what I mean act, I mean acting
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Speaker 1: is a skill set different roles. You can change your
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Speaker 1: acts set, you can change the way you walk and
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Speaker 1: talk and stuff. And then when you look at back
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Speaker 1: at the Star Wars movies, it will confuse you because
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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be like, ah, why don't they use
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Speaker 1: this guy's ability? And that's where the porn feeling comes from.
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Speaker 1: You feel like, well, on set, they're not really using
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Speaker 1: my ability. But at the same time, you want to
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Speaker 1: put me in all the marketing posts just to get
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Speaker 1: the black people excited. But then when the black people
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Speaker 1: come see it, it's like half excited. They always give
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Speaker 1: us these half roles, like damn man, I thought he
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Speaker 1: was going to be the hero. It's always a debate
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Speaker 1: about what we thought we were going to be the one,
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Speaker 1: whereas in you know the other side, they put the
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Speaker 1: cape on the brother. He's killing it. You know, he's
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Speaker 1: got the storylines, he's got the moves and a that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, so you know, sometimes he's a struggle.
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Speaker 1: You get Star Wars wh people that don't know breakdown.
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Speaker 1: You know how that whole process came about. So it's
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Speaker 1: actually funny. I was I was shooting a movie called
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Speaker 1: Imperial Dreams with Rowe, Timmy and ro Timmy, Timmy, Lena
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Speaker 1: Falcons fam Yeah, erro Timmy, Man. I like the way
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Speaker 1: you responded to that song, man, but we're gonna we're
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Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation about that song anyway. But we
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Speaker 1: we worked on a movie together. A great guy that's
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Speaker 1: my bro, and he got he got an audition for
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Speaker 1: a secret project and I put him on tape for it.
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Speaker 1: Helped him, help put him on tape. And then when
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Speaker 1: I looked at the paper, I was just like, wait,
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Speaker 1: this is sounding real Star Wars esque, Like how come
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Speaker 1: my dame got a call back for me? Like, what's
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Speaker 1: going on with that? So I called my agents, said
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Speaker 1: what's going on? And they're like, they haven't come to London.
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Speaker 1: Yet because it was this kind of worldwide search, and
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Speaker 1: then they came out came to London randomly. I got
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Speaker 1: a call from my agent for me, and he's been
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Speaker 1: with me since our sixteen and he was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: you've got the audition. I was like the one. He
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Speaker 1: was like yeah. And then I was capitaled into nine
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Speaker 1: months of just back to back audition, so had to
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Speaker 1: lose weight and stuff because I was a bit chubby
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Speaker 1: coming in. You know your Star Wars, yeah I was.
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Speaker 1: I was into that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was into
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Speaker 1: the prequels. I had the Dark Moore figures. So I
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Speaker 1: was just like, nah, this is legit and parctically about
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Speaker 1: to be rich, you know what I mean. You know
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Speaker 1: that feeling you know when you get the first call,
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Speaker 1: but then you have to you get a piece of
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Speaker 1: the merge. You don't get a piece of We don't
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Speaker 1: get none of them much. Damn. You want to use
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Speaker 1: your likeness in everything face none of them much. Dam
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Speaker 1: I see they said you want free movies, you better
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Speaker 1: be appreciative that we gave you this, Jenny. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: you know me, then I was hungry, you know, white
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Speaker 1: crossing the corner of the mouth. That's like hungry, and
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Speaker 1: I wanted the opportunity, so I was like, okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: free picture deal um. And then one thing led to
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Speaker 1: another such a long process and then I ended up
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Speaker 1: ended up getting the role. But it was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was it was. It was Dare in time because
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Speaker 1: it's like the options of your life. You're either going
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Speaker 1: to be somebody or you're gonna go back to the
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Speaker 1: to the hustle. You know. It's just so interesting to
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Speaker 1: me because you know how racist you gotta be the
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Speaker 1: see race in a fantasy movie, whether it's Star Wars
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Speaker 1: or a little Mermaid. We're talking about fucking mermaid. It's
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Speaker 1: a mermaid. It's a mermaid, bro. You know how you
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Speaker 1: know what's so made? The crab was from the Caribbean,
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Speaker 1: so you would you would be thinking, like anybody else around,
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Speaker 1: there's probably gonna be black in that Caribbean, you know,
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Speaker 1: that Caribbean seeing stuff. But I don't know, man, just
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Speaker 1: that's in there. They're killing him right now. But it's
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Speaker 1: but it's nuts that you know, it just reflects about
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Speaker 1: how they would love the world, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: what the world that would be good for them? Man?
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Speaker 1: You know, if you put the hair that's too tough.
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Speaker 1: In their movies, they go, oh my god, I feel
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Speaker 1: so intimidated by it. I don't know what to deal about.
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Speaker 1: And and it gets to be a big frenzy. And
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Speaker 1: I think this time for her, especially because it's a
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Speaker 1: big Disney you know how it is, man, this is
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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna have to change the much and make
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Speaker 1: Ariel brown on the on the plush toys and stuff.
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Speaker 1: We have to celebrate what that is for her, you know.
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Speaker 1: And and it's a big it's a big move. How
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Speaker 1: does that make you feel? I'm sorry, how did that
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Speaker 1: make you feel? When you've seen the posters out there
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Speaker 1: and you've seen your face up there, but you know
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna live up to what's expected that they play.
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Speaker 1: You gotta play the game, man. But as you know,
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Speaker 1: I was brewing, well, you know, a little bit a
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Speaker 1: little bit salty about it. Um. But then but then again,
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Speaker 1: it's the process of it. I was like, I was
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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, maybe on the last one,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna I'm gonna be saying with my character,
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Speaker 1: I gotta do something. Maybe on the last one, Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, that was that was a struggle as well.
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Speaker 1: To a certain extent. But did anybody from within Disney
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Speaker 1: reach out to you after and say, like, have any
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Speaker 1: comments or say you know what you're right? Anything? No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: in retrospect. But but I heard that's that's the kind
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Speaker 1: of policy. We don't say. We don't respond nothing. But
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Speaker 1: when I when I see the man, I'm gonna talk
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Speaker 1: to them. You're not you're not going back to you
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Speaker 1: I read this. You don't want you're not interested in
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Speaker 1: going back to any of the Star Wars franchise. No, no, no, no, man,
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Speaker 1: I think my time is started and the contract done.
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Speaker 1: So to be honest, it's it's not even a conversation
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Speaker 1: that I don't even think they're even curious about me
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Speaker 1: coming back or anything like that. So all right now
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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about Breaking and the Woman King.
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Speaker 1: Those are both based on two stories. Correct. The Woman
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Speaker 1: can to a certain extent Breaking, yes, okay, yea, So
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Speaker 1: tell us the story of Breaking. That's something Michael kay Williams,
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Speaker 1: isn't that Michael Kay Williams's fellow, Brooklyn Brooklyn, I like myself, So, um,
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Speaker 1: can you tell us about Breaking and what your role was?
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Speaker 1: And there you were a marine? Yeah, yeah, so I play.
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Speaker 1: I play a war Vet called Brian Brown Eastley who
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Speaker 1: comes back to society after serving, and then when he
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Speaker 1: comes back, he's going through several different issues, financial councies,
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Speaker 1: his daughter can't afford much, he's accommodation issues, and then
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Speaker 1: it's also suffering from PTSD. And then he makes an
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Speaker 1: extreme decision in the crescendo of all these stresses to
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Speaker 1: go into a world's fargo back, hold it up and
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Speaker 1: try to get his money back from veterans affairs, because,
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Speaker 1: as you know, when the vets come back home, they
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Speaker 1: rely heavily on the various affairs for checks and clearances
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Speaker 1: for their day to day needs. And unfortunately, through ad
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Speaker 1: me and through mistakes, you know, Brian's case is kind
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Speaker 1: of dismissed. And then he's left in this position where
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Speaker 1: he's kind of like, I don't know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what to do, and with the PTSD, with the bullying,
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Speaker 1: what's been going on with looking thinking back to the
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Speaker 1: stuff that he's been through, he goes into that world's
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Speaker 1: fargo and holds it up, and how can you now
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Speaker 1: understand it? The human being? How can you never understand
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Speaker 1: what that man is? But we aren't we in our
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Speaker 1: bubble though. We're in our bubble and we have our
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Speaker 1: own stresses, and sometimes it's hard for us to have
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Speaker 1: that sympathy and perspective, right. But with this, with this man,
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Speaker 1: he wanted to be heard. That was the main thing.
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Speaker 1: And you know, even the bank tellers that were in
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Speaker 1: there that were they were like that this was the
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Speaker 1: nicest man that he'd done a bank heights in the
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Speaker 1: right way. There's a scene in the movie where a customer,
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Speaker 1: real customer, calls the World's fargo because yeah, he takes
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Speaker 1: the call, like because he doesn't want to. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's a different kind of of bank robber in that.
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Speaker 1: And the media might be like, man holds up banking.
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Speaker 1: Oh they were, you know, and it's something for us
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Speaker 1: to learn. They they packaged it in that way, whereas
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Speaker 1: in this movie goes into the nuances in the details
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Speaker 1: of that. And blessings to Michael Kay Williams, like I
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Speaker 1: requested him to come on, come onto the film, setting
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Speaker 1: him a letter, begged him to come to join because
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Speaker 1: I know we ain't got the coin to pay for
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Speaker 1: Michael Kay. But this is just a small little bag.
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Speaker 1: Come down and do a few weeks of work and
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Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, bet I'll come down, dude. Did
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Speaker 1: you know him? I didn't. I watched him in the
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Speaker 1: wire before, Okay, just like his work. I watched him
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Speaker 1: in the Wire, I watched him in Board or Kampire.
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Speaker 1: So I was just like, yo, bro, I would love.
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Speaker 1: It's an amazing person. Isn't it great to work with
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Speaker 1: people who you like in real life too? Yeah? And
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Speaker 1: he's chill and and he's given, and he's and he's
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Speaker 1: open and honest. You know. For me, you know, the
11:07
Speaker 1: work is better when we all kind of get along.
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Speaker 1: You know. I was working with him tell us some
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Speaker 1: of the stories on the set, because you know, we
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Speaker 1: missed a brother. Yeah. I thought the first time I
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Speaker 1: worked with him, well, the first time I saw him
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Speaker 1: after they came on set, he walked into my trailer
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Speaker 1: eccidental because he thought it was his, you know, and
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Speaker 1: that low budget kind of picture. Man, the trailers looked
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Speaker 1: all the same, and he walked in and he was
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Speaker 1: like yo, bro, and he was like yo, like, oh shit,
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Speaker 1: you're on the project. He was like yeah, man. I
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Speaker 1: was like, brother, like, thank you so much for coming
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Speaker 1: down because you didn't really have to um and he
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Speaker 1: just told me about you know, the speech that I
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Speaker 1: had done at the protests, and he told me that
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Speaker 1: he misses me. That's the way. That's the reason why
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Speaker 1: I came down. Like he's a strong message for the
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Speaker 1: movie and he just wants to do the work and
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Speaker 1: be a part of it, man, And it was all
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Speaker 1: love from there. What um, what what impact did playing
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Speaker 1: that role have on your mental and emotional well being?
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Speaker 1: I think it gave me perspective. I've never had anybody
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Speaker 1: in my family that served um, And I've never had
11:56
Speaker 1: anybody in my family that's made that commitment to any
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Speaker 1: Western government. My family they're a bit black as hell,
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Speaker 1: and they got opinions, um and so so in that
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Speaker 1: I can't relate directly to certain things that they went through.
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Speaker 1: But after being in these shoes, UM, yeah, man, the
12:12
Speaker 1: intensity of being on set was what it was because
12:14
Speaker 1: we had to have like a theater approach, like you know,
12:16
Speaker 1: our director Abbey was like, you know, the space is yours?
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Speaker 1: Do you like you're you're the one owning the space.
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Speaker 1: The cameras will follow you, and so you had to
12:23
Speaker 1: have that kind of approach to it. But apart from that, man,
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Speaker 1: I think I think it was chill. I was actually
12:27
Speaker 1: going out a lot during the filming process because days
12:31
Speaker 1: would be yeah, on purpose, the days would be intense,
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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, when I come back, make sure
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Speaker 1: my boys are in the crib, come back home, chill
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Speaker 1: with them for a bit, and have that balance so
12:41
Speaker 1: I'm not I can take off the character and it
12:43
Speaker 1: can just enjoy my life. Oh, let me talk to
12:45
Speaker 1: you about there for a second. So a lot of
12:47
Speaker 1: times when people get deep, that deep in character, theydyn't
12:49
Speaker 1: want to stay there and tell the roll is over,
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Speaker 1: but you chose to release it. Like what every other day?
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Speaker 1: Every day? Wow? Every day every day Brian, Brian has
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Speaker 1: to go in. And the funny thing is is that
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Speaker 1: it kind of impeded into your When it impedes into
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Speaker 1: your life is when I had to shave my hair
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Speaker 1: down every day because that's what Brian was doing. And
13:07
Speaker 1: you know, shaving the hair down, you trying to go
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Speaker 1: out and stuff. You've got the bulled oar head like
13:10
Speaker 1: that doesn't really match up sometimes, so I had to
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Speaker 1: put the hat on just to be you know, I
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Speaker 1: put the chains on, make sure I'm just different from
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Speaker 1: who Brian is, and just to have that balance and
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Speaker 1: then just having the house for my best friend was there,
13:21
Speaker 1: two of my boys were there, were all there and
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Speaker 1: just in the house together, and that just made the
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Speaker 1: process a little bit more easy. I'm not bringing it home.
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Speaker 1: How hard did it to get back into the character
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Speaker 1: of Brian once you do that? The environment was set, man,
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Speaker 1: It's like there, you see the set, you see the cameras, man,
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Speaker 1: you see in the Kobahari like, you know, preparing and
13:36
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, nah, I gotta get in moan and
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Speaker 1: get in action. And the stories about him, so we
13:41
Speaker 1: jumping in and out is a skill set you should
13:43
Speaker 1: Definitely what did your parents think about you wanted to
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Speaker 1: be an actor when when you were younger. Definitely some concerns, well,
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Speaker 1: mainly because in school. My behavior school was a bit
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Speaker 1: was a bit tricky. So there was some concerns imitating
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Speaker 1: those white people too much. No, no, I was imitating
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Speaker 1: the white people. I was just doing my take. But
14:01
Speaker 1: you know how it goes, man. You get, you just get,
14:03
Speaker 1: You just get a bit a bit too cheeky for
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Speaker 1: your own good. So they were worried that it would
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Speaker 1: be a distraction, you know, if you're not taking it seriously.
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Speaker 1: It's just going to be a distraction. But then after
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Speaker 1: my dad started to see I was consistent, he started
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Speaker 1: taking me to the auditions and he took me to
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Speaker 1: my first agency me and he was like a full supporter. Um.
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Speaker 1: And then I got Star Wars bought in my house
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Speaker 1: and then it was like shot. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: That is that moment? Is that moment, so you know
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Speaker 1: we're good to go from there. You know, I hate
14:28
Speaker 1: how this country treats his veterans. I can't stand it,
14:31
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you know, just just to
14:33
Speaker 1: go off and fight for a country and then come
14:35
Speaker 1: home and don't even have a place to stay. It's
14:37
Speaker 1: just ridiculous to me. Right, But what light do you
14:39
Speaker 1: think this movie is gonna shine on? What veterans like?
14:42
Speaker 1: It's the message you hope this? I think. I think
14:44
Speaker 1: we need to understand the complications of that position, and
14:48
Speaker 1: we need to understand what happens mentally to people when
14:50
Speaker 1: they go to war and they experience certain things, and
14:52
Speaker 1: that integration back into normal life is a deep struggle
14:56
Speaker 1: and it affects all aspects of their life, including mentally,
14:59
Speaker 1: and for of us, we can't relate. We ain't been
15:01
Speaker 1: in the front lines like that, and and that in
15:03
Speaker 1: itself means that I hope there's an empathy and I
15:06
Speaker 1: hope that also they go to see it for the
15:08
Speaker 1: entertainment qualities of its great performances in it. I think Abby,
15:11
Speaker 1: our director, does a phenomenal job. And it's Michael one
15:14
Speaker 1: of Michael kay William's last last roles, and I think
15:16
Speaker 1: it would be great to show the man, show the
15:17
Speaker 1: man love. Where were you when you you found out
15:19
Speaker 1: that he passed and what was your initial reaction? I
15:22
Speaker 1: was I was in London and Abby, the director of
15:26
Speaker 1: Breaking Heat, text me and I just didn't believe it.
15:28
Speaker 1: I thought there was probably a little bit of a confusion,
15:31
Speaker 1: you know, you know how it goes sometimes. I think
15:33
Speaker 1: they've said I've died like twice during my career. Yeah,
15:36
Speaker 1: you're gonna die twice. Digitally, that's just gonna be you
15:38
Speaker 1: gonna die. You're gonna die twice. That's but that's how
15:40
Speaker 1: you know you're successful though. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna kill
15:42
Speaker 1: you and they're gonna say you part of the LOOMI
15:44
Speaker 1: So the two things. Once you get that you're making
15:47
Speaker 1: that money money, Yeah you get that. Yeah, yeah, you
15:52
Speaker 1: on top, but you know it was it was shocking
15:54
Speaker 1: to me just just to hear his demids and I
15:57
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about his personal life like that, So
15:59
Speaker 1: for me, it was a bit of a shock. Here.
16:01
Speaker 1: Did any of the standards you took during like the
16:03
Speaker 1: whole BLM movement that moment in time. Did that impack
16:07
Speaker 1: you in Hollywood? Absolutely definitely? But I say, um, I'm
16:12
Speaker 1: matured a little bit through the process because i mean,
16:14
Speaker 1: like you gotta think about during summer, we was at
16:15
Speaker 1: home and we were seeing black bodies consistently being harmed
16:19
Speaker 1: or injured in a certain way, and then that spontaneously
16:22
Speaker 1: went out to the to the protests, um and and
16:25
Speaker 1: made that speech. You know, there's going to be some
16:27
Speaker 1: people in Hollywood that don't necessarily get it, um And
16:31
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna be like, yeah, all right, they're not
16:33
Speaker 1: gonna come to you and say we're not working with you.
16:35
Speaker 1: You just might not hear nothing, you know what I mean.
16:37
Speaker 1: You might not see the audition come in m And
16:40
Speaker 1: I think and I think definitely that that happened. But
16:42
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mad at that because I'm hearing
16:45
Speaker 1: this industry to exist that way. No more like Howards
16:48
Speaker 1: existing during episode seven, Force Awakens, like I was playing
16:51
Speaker 1: doing everything by the rules, and I was, you know,
16:54
Speaker 1: clean cut and trying to be you know, good to everybody.
16:57
Speaker 1: You know, I worre to Beyonce. It being nice in
16:59
Speaker 1: this ship the way all the way you face of
17:02
Speaker 1: Star Wars. Yeah, I mean, but to a certain extent,
17:04
Speaker 1: you get to you get too comfortable with everybody you
17:08
Speaker 1: they can take the they can take the mick, you know.
17:10
Speaker 1: So definitely there'll be much more of a right now.
17:13
Speaker 1: There's much more of a specific gratitude for now attracting
17:18
Speaker 1: the people in Hollywood alf for me, which is what happened.
17:21
Speaker 1: You creating your own too, Yeah, yeah, because breaking I'm
17:25
Speaker 1: a producer on that. I've got my own production production
17:28
Speaker 1: company and we developed a good few projects. And now
17:30
Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, you know, after after that happened,
17:33
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox caused my phone. Now now we mess with you,
17:36
Speaker 1: Violet Davis calls me. Now we mess with you, Prince
17:39
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, we mess with you. Come on,
17:41
Speaker 1: come on into the black sets, man, coming, come and
17:43
Speaker 1: film with us. And that I just felt, I just
17:45
Speaker 1: felt a love from that. I was gonna ask you,
17:46
Speaker 1: like what's more fulfilling doing, you know, a role like
17:49
Speaker 1: in The Woman King, or like doing a role in
17:51
Speaker 1: Star Wars the Woman King Man the Woman King. You
17:55
Speaker 1: got to think about this, bro. I know you as well.
17:57
Speaker 1: You come from a brown skin, dark woman. You see
18:00
Speaker 1: how that's happened, you know, in terms of the dispariting roles,
18:03
Speaker 1: in terms of the opportunities and roles for the dark
18:05
Speaker 1: skinned black women, that in itself has been a struggle.
18:08
Speaker 1: So for me, sitting on a set where I'm seeing
18:11
Speaker 1: the top ten or even fifteen to twenty women in
18:15
Speaker 1: this picture are black and dark skin specifically was special
18:19
Speaker 1: to see. And they went in. It's not like just
18:21
Speaker 1: a propaganda kind of stick the black people in that
18:24
Speaker 1: they were trained for six months. They transformed their bodies.
18:28
Speaker 1: You know, me, I came in just being the King.
18:30
Speaker 1: I didn't have much to do physically. They were handling
18:32
Speaker 1: everything and it was you know, it's inspirational to work
18:35
Speaker 1: black women. Yeah, and you know that's a that's a
18:37
Speaker 1: good thing. When I saw I was like, I thought
18:40
Speaker 1: it was a new black man at the trail. I'm
18:42
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but that's what I get that. But
18:44
Speaker 1: that's what we're used to. But that's why we're trying
18:45
Speaker 1: to break that. We deserve the full buffet's We deserve
18:49
Speaker 1: to have the tyler perries of the world and then
18:51
Speaker 1: have the the other side, then have the women kings,
18:53
Speaker 1: and that the women kings based you know, loosely based
18:56
Speaker 1: on the true true story. So it grounds you more
18:58
Speaker 1: into the realities of our world. But you know, it
19:01
Speaker 1: begs the question why can't we have both for people
19:03
Speaker 1: that don't know, well, it's about the Agogia, the all
19:07
Speaker 1: female military unit in the Homie, who are basically tasked
19:12
Speaker 1: with protecting their kingdom there at a very difficult time
19:15
Speaker 1: because they have their involvement in the slave trade um
19:17
Speaker 1: and their and their involvement, I mean the negativity of
19:20
Speaker 1: the times. It's times changed. The king Gezo has just
19:22
Speaker 1: risen to power and he's trying to decide how to
19:25
Speaker 1: you know, how his nation can move forward. Do we
19:28
Speaker 1: continue a part of this negative slave trade or do
19:31
Speaker 1: we kind of like diversifying, go into palm oil and
19:34
Speaker 1: all these different things. And that comes with internal civil
19:36
Speaker 1: conflicts and it just shows you the journey of that.
19:39
Speaker 1: But Viola Davis y Beast, Hey, Viola Davis Beast is
19:45
Speaker 1: madness is a transformative role for a lot of people,
19:48
Speaker 1: and it's got two certain bed Lashana Lynch Sheila at him. Um,
19:53
Speaker 1: it's the big boy project. I can't evenly It's a
19:55
Speaker 1: budget to each other, isn't Wasn't that the regime you
19:59
Speaker 1: just discussed who the Domlja is big off? Well no, no, no,
20:02
Speaker 1: well well yes they said that. They said it was
20:05
Speaker 1: a loose they were loosely based on on them, So
20:07
Speaker 1: I mean, which which is cool to see how these
20:09
Speaker 1: references go. But this is this is no fantasy. I mean,
20:12
Speaker 1: this is yeah, this is real swords and spears and
20:14
Speaker 1: just you know, you don't get a suit in this one.
20:16
Speaker 1: But was it training like for you getting ready for
20:18
Speaker 1: this role? Luxurious? He said he had to do much.
20:21
Speaker 1: I was the king, the king, Yeah, yeah, robes, you know,
20:24
Speaker 1: picking through robes, the blue one and nothing. I didn't
20:27
Speaker 1: have a running for what they were run. They were run.
20:31
Speaker 1: They had to do it. So they done. Then they
20:34
Speaker 1: done most of the done, most of the work, you know,
20:37
Speaker 1: all the most challenging part, you know, playing the king,
20:41
Speaker 1: picking the ropes. There was no part that made you
20:43
Speaker 1: emotional in the moment. Well, that's not challenge that's great. Definitely, definitely,
20:47
Speaker 1: there's there's a part of of praise and adoration that
20:51
Speaker 1: the the black women have to do. And they were
20:53
Speaker 1: singing and they were dancing, and that's another thing on
20:55
Speaker 1: this movie is not, you know, slave pawn, it's not.
20:59
Speaker 1: It has moment of togetherness, sisterhood, dancing, singing, and those
21:03
Speaker 1: moments were definitely emotional seeing them singing, seeing them dancing.
21:06
Speaker 1: You know, I'm Nigerian as well, so I'm like, yeah,
21:09
Speaker 1: I love the vibe of the culture in it. Why
21:11
Speaker 1: did you think why do you think the king didn't
21:12
Speaker 1: want to fight with the foreign country at first? I
21:15
Speaker 1: think that's just the what would you mean the fin enemy?
21:17
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but fight with fight. Why do you think
21:20
Speaker 1: he did not want to fight with them at first?
21:22
Speaker 1: What do you mean didn't you want to fight them?
21:25
Speaker 1: What the what the Oh no, it's a negotiation at
21:28
Speaker 1: that time. Remember they're involved in the slave trade. So
21:30
Speaker 1: it's like, is that the part where you're talking about
21:32
Speaker 1: when I think going to wars? She was like, do
21:34
Speaker 1: you want to go to wars? She was like, well,
21:36
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to fight for something. Yeah. But when
21:39
Speaker 1: you go and watch the movie, it is so nuanced.
21:42
Speaker 1: It's very nuanced. It speaks to the diaspora, it speaks
21:45
Speaker 1: to multiple different tribes and cultures. It speaks to internal
21:49
Speaker 1: civil war. So when he's saying go to war, it's
21:51
Speaker 1: not always just white people. It's like black people too.
21:56
Speaker 1: This this script is way more nuanced than people think
21:59
Speaker 1: it is. You know, the marketing strategy just go get
22:01
Speaker 1: them happy with the spears and the you know, viola,
22:04
Speaker 1: get the action. But when you come in and watch it,
22:06
Speaker 1: it's a whole more. It's a more nuanced take. Would
22:09
Speaker 1: you say this is the favorite movie you've done to date? Yeah? Really? Yeah? Yeah.
22:13
Speaker 1: I enjoyed my experience and it took me back to
22:16
Speaker 1: first starting out, and I like being on a set
22:19
Speaker 1: whereas black women and stuff, they tell you when you
22:22
Speaker 1: got crossed in the corner of your living other cultures,
22:28
Speaker 1: they'd be leaving you to hang out there, you know
22:30
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's something nice and homely about about
22:33
Speaker 1: having a cast of women that reflect on how you
22:36
Speaker 1: were raised. A question, right, you played the king in
22:38
Speaker 1: that movie. This is something I've been exploring, Like, you know,
22:40
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like patriarchy is a system.
22:43
Speaker 1: I feel like the divine order of things is women
22:46
Speaker 1: are really the leaders in the foundation. That's my personal opinion.
22:49
Speaker 1: When you do a role like that and you see
22:51
Speaker 1: them in their position and you in your position, or
22:53
Speaker 1: what did that make you think of the power dynamic?
22:55
Speaker 1: I think it's a reciprocal energy that we need. And
22:59
Speaker 1: then you need to get into more of the specifics
23:00
Speaker 1: of who the woman is. Can't just go woman and
23:03
Speaker 1: then a man and then place them in positions. I
23:05
Speaker 1: think everybody has unique skill sets that could be utilized
23:07
Speaker 1: or used and that's what you're seeing in this in
23:09
Speaker 1: this movie that even in the court of Chambers, you know,
23:11
Speaker 1: with opinions, there will be females there and there will
23:14
Speaker 1: be males, and to get that sense of a different
23:17
Speaker 1: a different perspective. But what's funny is some females and
23:20
Speaker 1: males will agree, you know what I mean, and and
23:22
Speaker 1: they differ in their in their opinions still, but it
23:24
Speaker 1: made me think, like you just we just got to
23:26
Speaker 1: work together, Like we've got to come to this point
23:28
Speaker 1: where there's a level ground that you can collaborate to
23:31
Speaker 1: make society better. Society starts with families, good families. So yeah,
23:35
Speaker 1: it just makes you think about that when did you
23:36
Speaker 1: decide to start a production company? Um, I think it
23:41
Speaker 1: was bubbling from being on set of Star Wars and
23:43
Speaker 1: not being involved in the big boy conversations that were
23:46
Speaker 1: kind of cool to hear though, Like I would hear
23:48
Speaker 1: jj Abrams and Cafe talk about movie moments that I
23:51
Speaker 1: knew would be historical for the for the world, but
23:54
Speaker 1: they're just chatting about it in a tent like it's casual.
23:56
Speaker 1: And I was just like, Rah would love to be
23:57
Speaker 1: a part of the creative process. And then I was like,
24:00
Speaker 1: you know, if I wait for the phone to ring,
24:02
Speaker 1: movies like Breaking and all these roles that I've been
24:04
Speaker 1: able to do, even they clone Tyrone, Like it can't.
24:07
Speaker 1: It can't just happen that way. I have to actually
24:09
Speaker 1: have more of a proactive approach tomorrow to my job.
24:12
Speaker 1: You gotta tell me about this day Clone Tyrone. The
24:14
Speaker 1: title alone sounds phenomenal. I know, Jamie Fox isn't it,
24:17
Speaker 1: But what is that movie about a pimp, a prostitute,
24:21
Speaker 1: and a drug dealer find out that some white people
24:23
Speaker 1: doing some crazy shit under the ground in the hood.
24:25
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna tell you. The pimp Jamie Fox.
24:29
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox is the pimp, Tiana Paris's prostitute, and I'm
24:32
Speaker 1: the drug dealer. And it's about it's basically a Hood
24:35
Speaker 1: Star Wars. It's It's hood Scooby Doo It see that.
24:39
Speaker 1: It's a mystery movie about the last people, the last
24:42
Speaker 1: people you think team up, the last sort of people
24:45
Speaker 1: you think with team up, is about them actually stepping
24:47
Speaker 1: up and handling a bit of a sci fi mystery
24:50
Speaker 1: situation which you don't you don't get to see. And Jamie,
24:53
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, Jame Fox is hilarious, hilarious, and you know,
24:56
Speaker 1: that's a real conversation going on, like that's been going
24:59
Speaker 1: on for some years. Like people think that there's actually
25:01
Speaker 1: folks getting cloned out here. Yeah, people who I thought
25:06
Speaker 1: I knew yesterday and then the very next day they
25:08
Speaker 1: were totally different, And I'm like, they must have got cloned.
25:10
Speaker 1: I want to know where them facilities are, though I
25:12
Speaker 1: don't ain't heard about nothing much from that. You believe
25:15
Speaker 1: in it to a certain extent, I mean, you never know.
25:18
Speaker 1: That's how I believe it. You never know, But then
25:20
Speaker 1: I don't know facts not do it. Yeah you did,
25:22
Speaker 1: but you said that to accomplish you did three completely
25:24
Speaker 1: different movies. I just wanted to change and did you
25:26
Speaker 1: see that? And then they cloned Tyrone. I play about
25:28
Speaker 1: four or five different characters, one of them seventy eight.
25:31
Speaker 1: So this is all giving me the opportunity just to
25:34
Speaker 1: do what actors do. Actors not supposed to be playing themselves.
25:36
Speaker 1: So you get cloned in the movie I'm Tyrone. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
25:40
Speaker 1: but so funny. The movie is strange. It's not even
25:43
Speaker 1: about that. It's just it's just it's just wait. I
25:45
Speaker 1: just can't wait for people to people to see it. Now.
25:47
Speaker 1: When people talk about diversity in Hollywood, what does that
25:50
Speaker 1: actually look like? It means that you actually try and
25:54
Speaker 1: find the talented individuals from groups that have been kind
25:58
Speaker 1: of forgotten and dismissed and not being given the right opportunities.
26:01
Speaker 1: It does not mean you just put a whole bunch
26:02
Speaker 1: of black people quotas in it. It means you actually
26:05
Speaker 1: try and actually find the homegrown talent people are passionate
26:08
Speaker 1: and who are working that don't get those opportunities, that
26:11
Speaker 1: don't have the cousin or the auntie in there that says, oh,
26:13
Speaker 1: you can come and assist for this actor. People that
26:16
Speaker 1: don't have that clean cut door. It means that we're
26:19
Speaker 1: struggling with trying to bring in those people. And this
26:21
Speaker 1: is in behind the scenes as well as in front
26:24
Speaker 1: of the camera. It's about bringing in those people who
26:26
Speaker 1: are skilled but who do not get the opportunities based
26:29
Speaker 1: on that disparity. There you got a very old soul
26:32
Speaker 1: man only thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm f you got
26:34
Speaker 1: a very old soul like oh yeah, yeah, I was
26:38
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, I heard that before. I'm not cool. How
26:43
Speaker 1: do you feel like how your art now is not
26:46
Speaker 1: being released in major movie places anymore and sometimes you
26:49
Speaker 1: just go on digital, sometimes just Netflix, sometimes Hulu. How
26:53
Speaker 1: does that you know because you grew up going to
26:55
Speaker 1: the movies? Yes, so how is that feeling? The Woman
26:58
Speaker 1: King is different because it's only in theaters right on
27:00
Speaker 1: the sixteen I've been I've been blessed Breaking was only
27:03
Speaker 1: in theaters as well the first two weeks and then
27:06
Speaker 1: I think goes to digital this week or so. Um.
27:08
Speaker 1: So I've been uniquely blessing that in that sense that
27:11
Speaker 1: I've had. I've been able to shoot three projects during
27:14
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and two of them have been exclusively released
27:17
Speaker 1: in in movie theaters, and Breaking got the big AMC deal,
27:20
Speaker 1: so we were in a good few AMC so I
27:23
Speaker 1: personally can't complain, but I do think it's um. It
27:25
Speaker 1: was worrying for a lot of people at the beginning
27:27
Speaker 1: the pandemic was like wait, wait, wait, what's They're not
27:30
Speaker 1: gonna come to see us. They don't want to come
27:31
Speaker 1: see us no more. For one hour and thirty minutes,
27:34
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn like um. And it makes you think,
27:37
Speaker 1: and it makes you respect what you know. Denzel Washington
27:40
Speaker 1: has done, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, you know the old
27:42
Speaker 1: school box office, you know moneymakers who would make movies
27:46
Speaker 1: an event and makes you leave your house if it's
27:48
Speaker 1: cold suddenly raining. It makes you respect that more in
27:51
Speaker 1: an ever change in time. But it's it's an adjustment,
27:53
Speaker 1: It's an adjust What are you before, oh, movies? Yeah,
27:56
Speaker 1: I still like go into the movie? Yeah yeah, to
28:00
Speaker 1: see like the woman king in the movie. No, no, no,
28:02
Speaker 1: You've got to see the woman king in the movies.
28:05
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's scope, there's there's also what it
28:09
Speaker 1: does to you experience the immersiveness into the I mean
28:12
Speaker 1: you you at home, the microwave going off, you talk
28:14
Speaker 1: it to someone, you text it, on Instagram, It's like
28:16
Speaker 1: there's much more of a focus and a fixation and
28:19
Speaker 1: in experience, what are your dads about? You know, the
28:21
Speaker 1: whole conversation about how you say British actors playing Black
28:25
Speaker 1: American roles? You know, what do you think about? I
28:28
Speaker 1: think I think number one, the first approach is to
28:30
Speaker 1: listen to each other because there might be a perspective
28:32
Speaker 1: that we are missing right coming in, coming into the game,
28:35
Speaker 1: and we are not coming into games to steal anything.
28:39
Speaker 1: In fact, it's impossible to steal a role by the way,
28:41
Speaker 1: roles are only offered, so we come in there to
28:43
Speaker 1: just work. But sometimes you don't know whose toes you're
28:46
Speaker 1: stepping in if you don't actually listen to the people
28:48
Speaker 1: in the folk you know that are on ground to
28:50
Speaker 1: tell you. But in that I think also on the
28:52
Speaker 1: flip side, I couldn't relate to the conversation because I'd
28:56
Speaker 1: be honest. African America has been nothing but love to me.
28:59
Speaker 1: I lost my accommodation in La my air being being
29:02
Speaker 1: in La, I was staying in the streets for about
29:04
Speaker 1: two days off of Crescent Heights Boulevard. I went to
29:07
Speaker 1: some party I met who is now my best friend Asia,
29:10
Speaker 1: an African American young girl from Inglewood, which just like, Yo,
29:13
Speaker 1: I loved your movie. I got I got your movie
29:14
Speaker 1: on red Box and I said, I don't have nowhere
29:16
Speaker 1: to stay. She goes, you can come stay, Come, stay
29:19
Speaker 1: in my crib. I say, where's your crib? She goes
29:20
Speaker 1: Inglewood that I was living in Inglewood for a bit.
29:22
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's like I've met and connected
29:25
Speaker 1: with people who have helped me. The people who have
29:27
Speaker 1: helped me mostly being an African American, so I don't
29:29
Speaker 1: see that side of the conversation. So sometimes I'm not
29:32
Speaker 1: in the best position to communicate because it's been a
29:35
Speaker 1: lot of like, you know, whether it's Lena Way to
29:37
Speaker 1: whether it's anybody Jamie, it's just been love, you know,
29:40
Speaker 1: and support. And I think on set we collaborate a lot,
29:42
Speaker 1: even with roles as a black brit that people will
29:45
Speaker 1: feel like I wouldn't understand the role. Sometimes my African
29:48
Speaker 1: American brother don't understand the role too, and we help
29:50
Speaker 1: each other. We're like, oh, because we weren't there. At
29:51
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we are actors. We have
29:53
Speaker 1: to put tray something that we don't we can't see
29:54
Speaker 1: so I think that it's it's a good conversation to
29:56
Speaker 1: have and we should stay listening, stay collaborating, because this
30:00
Speaker 1: civil warsh it looks weak, looks petty and weak, especially
30:03
Speaker 1: when it comes to the to the mainstream game, it
30:05
Speaker 1: looks a bit it looks a bit dead. But if
30:07
Speaker 1: we can talk and have a conversation about it and
30:09
Speaker 1: no one feels like it should be an attack thing,
30:11
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's keep it Cordrials so we
30:13
Speaker 1: can actually have the conversation and perhaps we'll learn a
30:15
Speaker 1: few things. Absolutely have there have been roles that you
30:18
Speaker 1: missed out on for scheduling purposes, like man, I really
30:20
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, but I'm over here filming Star Wars,
30:24
Speaker 1: or during Star Wars. Yeah, I mean during Star Wars
30:28
Speaker 1: it was like I say, I say as a joke,
30:30
Speaker 1: but it's like luxury jail, you know, because it's it's nice.
30:33
Speaker 1: It's nice to be in a movie like this. It's
30:34
Speaker 1: nice to know your builds are probably gonna pay for
30:36
Speaker 1: nick eight years. It's nice to know that. But there
30:39
Speaker 1: are some roles where you're like I can actually do that.
30:41
Speaker 1: They don't believe I can because I'm just I have
30:44
Speaker 1: to do these Star Wars movies. No harm to Star Wars.
30:46
Speaker 1: It takes like eight nine months to film one. So
30:48
Speaker 1: after that, I'm trying to go on holiday with the
30:50
Speaker 1: poison just chill. I'm trying to go out. But yeah,
30:54
Speaker 1: you do feel like that. You're like, damn, man, these
30:55
Speaker 1: roles are so nuanced. But if anything, I've been inspired.
30:58
Speaker 1: What are some things you wish you could have done
30:59
Speaker 1: during that but you just couldn't because of whatever reason.
31:02
Speaker 1: And You're like, man, I've forgotten now. But it was
31:05
Speaker 1: a good few things that come back. They were mostly
31:07
Speaker 1: indies or mostly indies, and I would have loved the
31:10
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with Jordan Peel a bit as well.
31:15
Speaker 1: We we we've been speaking for for a bit and
31:18
Speaker 1: I've always and you know, we took a meet. I
31:19
Speaker 1: took a meeting with him and went down to see
31:21
Speaker 1: him at Monkey Poor and I've always said, hey, Jordan, man,
31:24
Speaker 1: just just put me in the just put me in
31:26
Speaker 1: the far distance. You know, Danny Coli has put his
31:28
Speaker 1: head to the side. I've just seen her or eve something,
31:31
Speaker 1: you know, just put me in there. Because I really
31:32
Speaker 1: like his work. So yeah, maybe one day, you know,
31:34
Speaker 1: we were talking about, like the Little Mermaid backlash and
31:36
Speaker 1: Star Wars backlash earlier. How much of that do we
31:39
Speaker 1: how much people that do we know is real? Because
31:41
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what I've been thinking about, That's
31:43
Speaker 1: what I've been thinking about. I've also been thinking about
31:45
Speaker 1: these bots that pretend that they're black. Yes, we need
31:48
Speaker 1: to be careful, um, and I've been seeing it a
31:51
Speaker 1: bit more so the journalists. Something that they're doing is
31:55
Speaker 1: because of the pressure that's coming from sometimes they're editors.
31:58
Speaker 1: The clickbait is there to irritate you and make you angry.
32:03
Speaker 1: So sometimes they will nact our celebrity will answer a
32:06
Speaker 1: question to do with race one week, they will release
32:09
Speaker 1: like several different parts of their answer throughout a six week,
32:12
Speaker 1: like throughout the time of six weeks, just to have
32:15
Speaker 1: a steady story going on. And sometimes it's not accurate
32:17
Speaker 1: to what the conversation is. But I think we need
32:19
Speaker 1: to have an audience that's more aware of that. Y'all
32:21
Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more smart at stop
32:23
Speaker 1: being triggered because some of these things, as you said,
32:25
Speaker 1: that it's fake like they're trying to to stir the
32:29
Speaker 1: pot to a certain extent. So we need to we
32:30
Speaker 1: need to fixate on a celebration like we did with
32:33
Speaker 1: Black Panther, like it was it like that celebration was
32:37
Speaker 1: so mad that anybody was talking any something that stuff
32:39
Speaker 1: that was negative was was you could dismiss that. So
32:42
Speaker 1: let's celebrate. Because it's hard for me to believe that
32:44
Speaker 1: people care this much about a black mermaid because when
32:46
Speaker 1: I when I started a trailer come out on my
32:48
Speaker 1: on my algorithm, it was all love. Let me tell you, man,
32:51
Speaker 1: her name Ariel, and she's been swimming to the surface. Man,
32:54
Speaker 1: that son been hitting her for a bit. I've been
32:58
Speaker 1: hearing her. She's supposed to have them them dreads. That's
33:01
Speaker 1: how it was supposed to be in the first place.
33:03
Speaker 1: And if you bad, you should know stories like give me. Also,
33:05
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about her talent. Yeah, she's amazing.
33:09
Speaker 1: She's a manmaid, you're a thing. She's she's her fad.
33:15
Speaker 1: She's up there, man, she's got it. So you know,
33:17
Speaker 1: just loving support to em and keep on doing the thing.
33:19
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna go see that. I'm gonna take all
33:21
Speaker 1: the black little kids go see it. Probably book out
33:23
Speaker 1: they are you know, you know how we do we
33:24
Speaker 1: make it so easy for coin to pro nowadays coin
33:28
Speaker 1: coin pro it was a system that actually used to
33:31
Speaker 1: disrupt like protests back in the day doing he's doing
33:34
Speaker 1: the civil right there, Like that's what they would would do.
33:35
Speaker 1: They would send people to these Yeah, yeah, yeah, do
33:39
Speaker 1: that now. Yeah. I mean, I mean it makes sense
33:42
Speaker 1: that actually copy and past in that physical situation. It
33:44
Speaker 1: makes sense that they would do that online. And I've
33:46
Speaker 1: been thinking about that too, because sometimes I'd make the
33:48
Speaker 1: mistake of highlighting something that was triggering. But it's like
33:53
Speaker 1: if you didn't highlight it, bro, no one would have
33:55
Speaker 1: seen that. Yeah, I had to go stupid. So you know,
33:59
Speaker 1: we have to we have to try and finish it
34:00
Speaker 1: a little bit more. There is a game to it.
34:02
Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception about being black in Hollywood? I
34:08
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I guess there's a lot, but I'll
34:13
Speaker 1: keep myself to myself. I don't really try to get
34:14
Speaker 1: into people's in opinions too much. I don't really know. Um,
34:20
Speaker 1: I guess it. Maybe you're an asshole. I mean, you
34:22
Speaker 1: always got proved that you're not an asshole the first
34:24
Speaker 1: three weeks of meeting somebody. But I'm sure, it's in
34:26
Speaker 1: your position to you, like, you know, you're going a
34:28
Speaker 1: day or wherever it is, and it's like the person's
34:30
Speaker 1: kind of like, are you one of them? You know
34:33
Speaker 1: what I mean? And the first three weeks is proving
34:35
Speaker 1: that you're just yeah, you're not the date partner. Look
34:38
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah, but you married, yes sir, all right,
34:45
Speaker 1: all right, lay the same way for twenty four years.
34:49
Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic black. Yes, sir, yeah, I absolutely,
34:54
Speaker 1: because I've heard you speak. I've heard you. I've heard
34:57
Speaker 1: you speak before about you like your blackness and stuff.
34:58
Speaker 1: So I thought you was one of the ones that
35:00
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, sacrifice your your loins to continue
35:02
Speaker 1: in this race. So I'm like, okay, let me just
35:04
Speaker 1: check it. Well, yeah, he said that, he said, I'm
35:08
Speaker 1: explaining that what happened now? You you speak about your
35:11
Speaker 1: blackness quite a lot, and then obviously I've seen your
35:14
Speaker 1: interview something like, let me just check that, make sure
35:16
Speaker 1: he's oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Because I judge brothers
35:20
Speaker 1: like that too. I mean, I'm I'm gonna judge. I mean,
35:22
Speaker 1: anyone can do what they need to do, but I
35:23
Speaker 1: feel like when you speak in a certain way. Black
35:26
Speaker 1: men gotta be a black Yeah, when you spoken that,
35:29
Speaker 1: you're spoken in that way. Yeah, Like, let me just
35:31
Speaker 1: check my man. My man's devoted at home. People have
35:35
Speaker 1: talked so black, but then they sleep white. I'm like,
35:38
Speaker 1: I mean a white woman. Yeah, I have once once,
35:41
Speaker 1: I dated on one once when I was younger. Um,
35:45
Speaker 1: it was all right, but it was it was just chilling,
35:47
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just it wasn't
35:49
Speaker 1: nothing serious like that. So but naturally, you know, could
35:52
Speaker 1: you bring a storm troop at home? I've said it openly.
35:57
Speaker 1: He's like, it's just a preference, Like like I like
35:59
Speaker 1: my women black, you know, and I feel just just
36:02
Speaker 1: separate from you know, a political statement or anything like that.
36:06
Speaker 1: It's just stay fine as hell they you know, men,
36:08
Speaker 1: and level's gotta be over seventy five percent, you know
36:10
Speaker 1: what I mean. Thickness gotta be there, style gotta be there.
36:13
Speaker 1: We gotta laugh at the same jokes. We've gotta bump
36:15
Speaker 1: to the same music. It's just gotta be a flow,
36:17
Speaker 1: that's right, you know what I mean. So you can't
36:19
Speaker 1: have conversations about white supremacy tearing apart black families, but
36:22
Speaker 1: you don't even you'ren't even trying to create. I'm trying.
36:24
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have some conversations where I can say
36:26
Speaker 1: took my ship behind closed doors. Like I'm trying to say, woman,
36:29
Speaker 1: I don't And she's like, yeah, baby, yeah, you're right,
36:32
Speaker 1: You're right. You know what I mean. I needed to
36:36
Speaker 1: understand a black man's anger frustration. I needed to understand
36:39
Speaker 1: when I certain dudes walk into the room and energy
36:42
Speaker 1: ain't right. And she's just like, calm down, But I
36:44
Speaker 1: need that. I need I need me, A need me
36:47
Speaker 1: a plan mane me. And we appreciate you, don't you
36:52
Speaker 1: see just a little bit, just a little bit, I
36:55
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson a little bit looks with the eyebrow that
37:00
Speaker 1: before I got, I got a whole bunch bot your
37:02
Speaker 1: mom me or Johnathan Majors, Oh I've got, I've got
37:05
Speaker 1: I've got that to you anyway, John Boyina, We appreciate you, Joan,
37:11
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, appreciate you. My woman King breaking
37:13
Speaker 1: definitely go check it out and thank they Cam Tyrone
37:16
Speaker 1: coming in September. Well tune right, yeah, yeah, thank you man,
37:19
Speaker 1: thank you for me. It's the Breakfast Club