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A Dwarven Bonus: Rizzing in the Glittering Caves! · Systematic Geekology

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  Hello,
• 1:11
  fellow
• 1:12
  geekologists.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  other
• 1:14
  episode
• 1:14
  of
• 1:14
  Systematic
• 1:15
  Geekology.
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  And
• 1:15
  this
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  is
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  a
• 1:16
  bonus
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  episode
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  here
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  on
• 1:17
  the
• 1:17
  main
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  feed
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  within
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  our
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  series
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  of
• 1:20
  the
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  Faces
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  behind
• 1:21
  us.
• 1:22
  I
• 1:22
  have
• 1:22
  a
• 1:22
  couple
• 1:23
  Tolkien
• 1:24
  heads
• 1:24
  with
• 1:24
  me,
• 1:24
  Nick
• 1:25
  Polk,
• 1:25
  Tripp
• 1:26
  Fuller,
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  and
• 1:27
  we
• 1:27
  did
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  a
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  whole
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  like
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  almost
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  an
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  hour
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  talking
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  about
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  the,
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  the
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  legacy
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  and
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  the
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  family
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  tree
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  of
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  Duran
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  and
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  the
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  Faces
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  behind
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  us.
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  And
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  we're
• 1:36
  doing
• 1:36
  this
• 1:36
  backwards.
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  It's
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  like
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  the
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  upside
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  down
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  we,
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  the
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  that
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  conversation
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  is
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  happening
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  way
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  for
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  on.
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  On
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  our,
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  our
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  Fourth
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  world
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  site
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  that
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  you
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  can
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  see
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  and
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  our
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  show
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  notes.
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  You
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  can
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  hop
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  over
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  there
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  listen
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  as
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  a
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  you
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  can
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  find
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  that
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  there,
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  it
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  has
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  a
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  little
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  lock
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  on
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  it.
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  You
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  even
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  a
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  free
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  But
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  now
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  we're
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  doing
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  the
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  bonus
• 1:58
  question
• 1:58
  here
• 1:58
  on
• 1:58
  the
• 1:58
  main
• 1:59
  feed,
• 1:59
  and
• 1:59
  we
• 1:59
  have
• 1:59
  a
• 2:00
  couple
• 2:00
  bonus
• 2:00
  questions
• 2:01
  for
• 2:01
  those
• 2:01
  who
• 2:02
  like
• 2:02
  to
• 2:02
  geek
• 2:02
  out
• 2:03
  on
• 2:03
  the
• 2:03
  Lord
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  of
• 2:04
  the
• 2:04
  Rings,
• 2:04
  the
• 2:04
  Hobbit,
• 2:05
  all
• 2:05
  things
• 2:05
  Tolkien.
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  Well,
• 2:06
  I
• 2:07
  have
• 2:07
  some
• 2:07
  experts
• 2:07
  here
• 2:07
  with
• 2:08
  me,
• 2:08
  and
• 2:08
  we're
• 2:09
  going
• 2:09
  to
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  answer
• 2:09
  some
• 2:09
  bonus
• 2:09
  questions
• 2:10
  just
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  to
• 2:10
  kind
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  of
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  play
• 2:11
  around
• 2:11
  with
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  it.
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  You
• 2:12
  know,
• 2:13
  geekdom
• 2:14
  as
• 2:14
  play.
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  And
• 2:16
  that's,
• 2:17
  that's
• 2:17
  what
• 2:17
  us
• 2:17
  geeks
• 2:18
  do.
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  We
• 2:18
  sit
• 2:18
  around,
• 2:18
  we
• 2:19
  have
• 2:19
  drinks,
• 2:19
  we
• 2:19
  have
• 2:19
  cigars
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  and,
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  and
• 2:21
  smoke
• 2:22
  our
• 2:22
  pipes
• 2:22
  and
• 2:23
  geek
• 2:23
  out
• 2:24
  on,
• 2:24
  on
• 2:24
  Tolkien.
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  So
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  that's,
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  that's
• 2:25
  what
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  we're
• 2:25
  gonna
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  do
• 2:25
  right
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  now.
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  We
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  have
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  three
• 2:26
  questions.
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  That's
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  what
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  we're
• 2:27
  doing,
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  that
• 2:28
  we're
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  gonna
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  go
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  around
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  the
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  horn
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  and
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  we're
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  gonna,
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  we're
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  gonna
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  ask
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  these,
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  these
• 2:31
  questions.
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  But
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  will,
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  Will,
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  Will.
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  Bo
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  Baggins.
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  We
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  just
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  need
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  everyone
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  listening
• 2:36
  now,
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  because
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  a
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  lot
• 2:37
  of
• 2:37
  these
• 2:37
  people
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  are
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  not
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  even
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  members
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  yet.
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  That's
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  right.
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  Okay,
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  do,
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  do,
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  do
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  your
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  marketing
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  spiel
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  there.
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  No,
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  no,
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  I
• 2:43
  just
• 2:43
  want
• 2:43
  everyone
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  to
• 2:44
  know
• 2:45
  the
• 2:45
  Systematic
• 2:45
  Ecology
• 2:46
  podcast.
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  Like,
• 2:47
  just
• 2:47
  imagine
• 2:48
  trying
• 2:48
  to
• 2:48
  coordinate
• 2:49
  schedules
• 2:50
  with
• 2:50
  like
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  40
• 2:51
  different
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  people
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  that
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  all
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  have
• 2:53
  different
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  nerd
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  kingdoms
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  that
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  they're
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  into,
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  and
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  then
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  hooking
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  it
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  with
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  themes
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  and
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  then
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  bringing
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  all
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  these
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  people
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  together
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  and
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  then
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  inviting
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  your
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  friends
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  on
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  a
• 3:00
  regular
• 3:01
  basis
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  to
• 3:01
  create
• 3:02
  podcasts
• 3:02
  where
• 3:02
  if
• 3:03
  you
• 3:03
  just
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  hop
• 3:03
  in
• 3:03
  and
• 3:03
  you're
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  even
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  mildly
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  interested
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  in
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  it,
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  all
• 3:05
  of
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  sudden
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  you
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  get
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  the
• 3:06
  wisdom
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  of
• 3:07
  multiple
• 3:07
  friends
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  who
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  are
• 3:08
  now,
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  like,
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  nerding
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  out
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  with
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  deep
• 3:10
  dive
• 3:11
  energy.
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  I'm
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  just
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  saying,
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  you
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  know
• 3:13
  what,
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  you
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  know
• 3:14
  what
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  you
• 3:14
  should
• 3:14
  do
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  right
• 3:15
  now?
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  You
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  should
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  go
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  ahead
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  and
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  become
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  a
• 3:17
  member
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  of
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  Systematic
• 3:18
  Ecology
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  and
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  you
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  will
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  have
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  hours
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  of
• 3:21
  enjoyment
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  that
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  you
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  didn't
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  even
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  know
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  are
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  there.
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  Don't
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  you,
• 3:25
  like,
• 3:25
  sit
• 3:25
  there
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  and
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  say
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  to
• 3:26
  yourself,
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  you
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  know
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  how
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  many
• 3:27
  times
• 3:27
  I'm
• 3:28
  sitting
• 3:28
  here
• 3:28
  bored
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  and
• 3:29
  I
• 3:30
  would
• 3:30
  be
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  really,
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  really
• 3:31
  fulfilled
• 3:32
  for
• 3:32
  a
• 3:33
  significant
• 3:33
  conversation
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  with
• 3:35
  some
• 3:35
  nerdy
• 3:35
  goodness
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  with
• 3:36
  some
• 3:36
  fellow
• 3:37
  geeks.
• 3:37
  It
• 3:37
  already
• 3:38
  exists
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  you
• 3:39
  can
• 3:39
  have
• 3:39
  access
• 3:39
  to
• 3:40
  it.
• 3:40
  And
• 3:41
  Josh
• 3:41
  wants
• 3:42
  to
• 3:42
  coordinate
• 3:42
  all
• 3:43
  these
• 3:43
  schedules
• 3:43
  and
• 3:43
  calendars.
• 3:44
  It's
• 3:44
  crazy.
• 3:45
  Like,
• 3:46
  you
• 3:46
  should
• 3:46
  tell
• 3:46
  them
• 3:47
  thank
• 3:47
  you.
• 3:47
  That,
• 3:48
  you
• 3:48
  know,
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  best
• 3:48
  way
• 3:48
  to
• 3:48
  say
• 3:49
  thank
• 3:49
  you
• 3:49
  is
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  become
• 3:49
  a
• 3:50
  member.
• 3:50
  And
• 3:51
  you
• 3:51
  can
• 3:51
  be
• 3:51
  a
• 3:51
  member
• 3:51
  like
• 3:51
  me.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  donate
• 3:52
  every
• 3:53
  month.
• 3:53
  You
• 3:53
  can
• 3:53
  donate
• 3:54
  every
• 3:54
  month
• 3:54
  and
• 3:55
  then
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  can
• 3:55
  have
• 3:55
  some.
• 3:56
  A
• 3:56
  lot
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  fun.
• 3:57
  Because
• 3:57
  one,
• 3:58
  I
• 3:59
  didn't
• 3:59
  know
• 3:59
  that
• 4:00
  we
• 4:00
  were
• 4:00
  recording
• 4:00
  a
• 4:01
  members
• 4:01
  only
• 4:01
  podcast
• 4:02
  when
• 4:02
  I
• 4:03
  spent
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  lot
• 4:03
  of
• 4:04
  time
• 4:04
  preparing
• 4:05
  for
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  conversation
• 4:06
  on
• 4:06
  Durin.
• 4:07
  And
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  feel
• 4:08
  like
• 4:08
  you
• 4:09
  should
• 4:09
  go
• 4:09
  listen
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  it.
• 4:10
  And
• 4:12
  it
• 4:12
  was
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  lot
• 4:12
  of
• 4:13
  fun.
• 4:13
  Yeah,
• 4:14
  I'm
• 4:14
  not
• 4:14
  going
• 4:14
  to
• 4:15
  say
• 4:15
  any
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  stuff
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  said
• 4:16
  then
• 4:17
  right
• 4:17
  now,
• 4:18
  despite
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  fact
• 4:19
  that
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  don't
• 4:19
  get
• 4:19
  to
• 4:20
  listen
• 4:20
  to
• 4:20
  it
• 4:20
  unless
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  become
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  member.
• 4:21
  So
• 4:22
  you
• 4:22
  should
• 4:22
  go
• 4:22
  be
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  member
• 4:23
  right
• 4:23
  now.
• 4:24
  And
• 4:25
  Wilbo
• 4:25
  Baggins,
• 4:26
  if
• 4:26
  someone
• 4:27
  becomes
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  member
• 4:27
  when
• 4:28
  they're
• 4:28
  listening
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  this,
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  should
• 4:29
  tell
• 4:30
  me.
• 4:30
  I'll
• 4:30
  give
• 4:30
  them
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  discount
• 4:31
  code
• 4:31
  for
• 4:31
  Theology
• 4:32
  Beer
• 4:32
  Camp.
• 4:32
  That's
• 4:32
  what
• 4:32
  I'll
• 4:33
  do.
• 4:33
  This
• 4:33
  is
• 4:33
  the
• 4:34
  lure.
• 4:34
  I'm
• 4:34
  giving
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  lure.
• 4:36
  How
• 4:36
  much
• 4:36
  does
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  cost
• 4:37
  to
• 4:37
  be
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  member
• 4:37
  for.
• 4:38
  For
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  year?
• 4:39
  Um,
• 4:40
  yeah.
• 4:40
  Oh,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:42
  know,
• 4:42
  there
• 4:42
  are
• 4:42
  free
• 4:43
  subscribers.
• 4:43
  There
• 4:43
  are
• 4:43
  tiers.
• 4:44
  You
• 4:44
  could
• 4:44
  be
• 4:45
  like,
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  can
• 4:45
  tear
• 4:45
  it
• 4:46
  up.
• 4:46
  You
• 4:46
  like,
• 4:46
  you
• 4:46
  could
• 4:46
  do
• 4:47
  like
• 4:47
  free.
• 4:48
  You
• 4:48
  do
• 4:48
  5,
• 4:49
  10,
• 4:49
  25.
• 4:49
  You
• 4:50
  could
• 4:50
  become
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  wizard,
• 4:51
  like,
• 4:51
  like
• 4:51
  our
• 4:52
  friend
• 4:52
  Nick.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:54
  yeah,
• 4:54
  yeah,
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  can.
• 4:54
  You
• 4:55
  can
• 4:55
  tear
• 4:55
  it
• 4:55
  up.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:56
  I
• 4:56
  think
• 4:56
  it
• 4:56
  is
• 4:57
  like,
• 4:57
  this
• 4:57
  isn't
• 4:57
  just
• 4:58
  like,
• 4:58
  right?
• 4:59
  This
• 4:59
  isn't
• 4:59
  something
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  just
• 5:00
  like
• 5:00
  happens.
• 5:01
  Out
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  blue.
• 5:02
  Like,
• 5:02
  there's
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  lot
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  work
• 5:03
  that
• 5:03
  goes
• 5:03
  into
• 5:03
  this.
• 5:03
  And
• 5:04
  so
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  go
• 5:05
  and
• 5:05
  be
• 5:05
  a
• 5:06
  subscriber
• 5:06
  and,
• 5:06
  and
• 5:06
  do
• 5:07
  that,
• 5:07
  then,
• 5:08
  yeah,.
• 5:09
  You're
• 5:09
  making
• 5:09
  it
• 5:09
  all
• 5:10
  well,
• 5:10
  then
• 5:10
  I'll
• 5:10
  give
• 5:10
  you.
• 5:11
  I'll
• 5:11
  give
• 5:11
  you
• 5:12
  a
• 5:12
  code,
• 5:12
  but
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  have
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  remind
• 5:13
  me
• 5:13
  because
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  might
• 5:14
  have
• 5:14
  been
• 5:14
  enjoying.
• 5:15
  Because
• 5:15
  we're
• 5:15
  talking
• 5:16
  about
• 5:16
  dwarves.
• 5:17
  I'm
• 5:17
  like
• 5:18
  Gimli
• 5:18
  trying
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  out
• 5:19
  drink
• 5:19
  an
• 5:19
  elf.
• 5:19
  Which
• 5:19
  doesn't
• 5:20
  go
• 5:20
  well.
• 5:21
  I'm
• 5:21
  just
• 5:21
  saying
• 5:22
  I'll
• 5:22
  send
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  code
• 5:23
  for
• 5:23
  any
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  your
• 5:23
  members
• 5:24
  and.
• 5:24
  Or
• 5:25
  new
• 5:25
  members
• 5:25
  to
• 5:26
  get
• 5:26
  50
• 5:26
  off
• 5:26
  for
• 5:27
  theology
• 5:27
  Beer
• 5:27
  Camp.
• 5:28
  If.
• 5:28
  So
• 5:29
  this
• 5:29
  is
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  lure
• 5:29
  to
• 5:30
  join.
• 5:30
  Oh,
• 5:31
  yeah,
• 5:32
  I'm
• 5:32
  just
• 5:32
  trying
• 5:32
  to.
• 5:33
  I'm
• 5:33
  just
• 5:33
  trying
• 5:33
  to
• 5:34
  do
• 5:34
  like,
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  want
• 5:35
  Joshua
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  start
• 5:36
  outsourcing
• 5:36
  editing
• 5:37
  so
• 5:37
  I'm
• 5:37
  not
• 5:38
  told
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  go
• 5:38
  short
• 5:39
  when
• 5:39
  I'm
• 5:39
  talking
• 5:39
  about
• 5:39
  Doran.
• 5:41
  Like,
• 5:41
  oh,
• 5:41
  Trip,
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  have
• 5:42
  to
• 5:42
  edit
• 5:43
  these
• 5:43
  all
• 5:43
  myself.
• 5:43
  You
• 5:44
  can't
• 5:44
  talk
• 5:44
  for
• 5:44
  two
• 5:44
  Hours
• 5:44
  with
• 5:45
  Nick
• 5:45
  about
• 5:45
  Doran
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  I'm
• 5:46
  like,
• 5:46
  why?
• 5:46
  I
• 5:47
  have
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  21
• 5:47
  page
• 5:48
  outline
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  what
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  wanted
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  talk
• 5:49
  about.
• 5:49
  So
• 5:50
  just
• 5:50
  saying
• 5:51
  there's,
• 5:51
  there's
• 5:52
  Tripp
• 5:52
  sales
• 5:52
  pitch
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  love
• 5:53
  it.
• 5:54
  Trip,
• 5:54
  thanks
• 5:55
  man.
• 5:55
  Thanks
• 5:55
  for,
• 5:56
  thanks
• 5:56
  for
• 5:56
  that.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:57
  yeah,
• 5:57
  theology
• 5:57
  beer
• 5:58
  camp.
• 6:00
  We're
• 6:00
  part
• 6:01
  of
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  pop
• 6:01
  God
• 6:02
  stage.
• 6:02
  We're
• 6:03
  part
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  geek
• 6:04
  stage.
• 6:04
  We're
• 6:04
  going
• 6:04
  to
• 6:05
  keep
• 6:05
  doing
• 6:05
  it.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  you,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:07
  because
• 6:07
  some
• 6:07
  of
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  conversations
• 6:08
  we're
• 6:08
  having
• 6:08
  here
• 6:09
  around
• 6:09
  Tolkien
• 6:10
  and
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  things
• 6:10
  we
• 6:10
  get
• 6:11
  on
• 6:11
  it
• 6:11
  happens
• 6:11
  at
• 6:12
  the
• 6:12
  algebra
• 6:12
  camp
• 6:12
  and
• 6:13
  it's
• 6:13
  one
• 6:13
  of
• 6:13
  my
• 6:13
  favorite
• 6:13
  parts
• 6:13
  of
• 6:14
  it.
• 6:14
  So
• 6:15
  three
• 6:15
  questions
• 6:15
  here
• 6:16
  that
• 6:17
  are
• 6:17
  bonus
• 6:18
  extra.
• 6:18
  We
• 6:18
  have
• 6:19
  one
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  thinking
• 6:21
  about
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  afterlife.
• 6:22
  Thinking
• 6:22
  about
• 6:22
  what
• 6:22
  happens
• 6:23
  after
• 6:23
  Middle
• 6:23
  Earth.
• 6:24
  Do
• 6:24
  dwarves,
• 6:25
  elves,
• 6:25
  men
• 6:26
  go
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  same
• 6:27
  afterlife
• 6:28
  or
• 6:28
  realm
• 6:29
  or
• 6:29
  different
• 6:30
  realms?
• 6:32
  Yeah,
• 6:32
  I'm
• 6:32
  curious
• 6:33
  about
• 6:33
  that.
• 6:33
  And
• 6:33
  then
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  second
• 6:34
  question
• 6:34
  is
• 6:35
  what
• 6:35
  happens
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  dwarves
• 6:36
  after
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  Lord
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  Rings?
• 6:37
  I
• 6:38
  don't
• 6:38
  know
• 6:38
  if
• 6:38
  you're
• 6:38
  talking
• 6:38
  about
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  age
• 6:38
  of
• 6:39
  men,
• 6:39
  where
• 6:39
  they
• 6:39
  go,
• 6:39
  what
• 6:40
  happens?
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  don't
• 6:40
  know.
• 6:41
  And
• 6:41
  then
• 6:41
  Trip
• 6:41
  has
• 6:42
  one
• 6:42
  where
• 6:42
  he
• 6:42
  was
• 6:42
  really
• 6:43
  curious,
• 6:44
  what
• 6:44
  dwarven
• 6:45
  realm
• 6:45
  would
• 6:46
  you
• 6:46
  want
• 6:46
  to
• 6:46
  visit
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  what
• 6:47
  age?
• 6:48
  And
• 6:48
  we
• 6:48
  have
• 6:48
  to.
• 6:48
  All
• 6:48
  three
• 6:49
  of
• 6:49
  us
• 6:49
  have
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  go
• 6:50
  together
• 6:50
  because
• 6:50
  we
• 6:50
  can't
• 6:51
  do
• 6:51
  this
• 6:51
  separate.
• 6:51
  It's
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  road
• 6:52
  trip.
• 6:53
  It's
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  road
• 6:54
  trip.
• 6:55
  So
• 6:56
  that
• 6:56
  first
• 6:56
  one,
• 6:56
  thinking
• 6:57
  about
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  afterlife,
• 6:58
  think
• 6:58
  about
• 6:58
  what
• 6:58
  happens,
• 6:59
  you
• 6:59
  know,
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  know
• 7:01
  at
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  end
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  Lord
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  Rings
• 7:02
  when
• 7:02
  they
• 7:02
  hop
• 7:02
  on
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  Elven
• 7:04
  ships
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  they're,
• 7:05
  they're
• 7:05
  heading
• 7:05
  off
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  where,
• 7:05
  Nick,
• 7:06
  where
• 7:06
  are
• 7:06
  they
• 7:06
  headed?
• 7:06
  They're
• 7:07
  heading
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  the.
• 7:07
  They're
• 7:08
  headed
• 7:08
  off
• 7:08
  to.
• 7:08
  It's
• 7:09
  unclear.
• 7:09
  It's
• 7:09
  either
• 7:10
  Valinor
• 7:11
  or
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  Isle
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  Tol
• 7:12
  Orestia.
• 7:15
  And,
• 7:16
  and
• 7:16
  there's
• 7:16
  some
• 7:16
  hobbits
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  some
• 7:17
  elves
• 7:18
  on
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  ship.
• 7:19
  But
• 7:19
  you
• 7:19
  know,
• 7:20
  in
• 7:20
  terms
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  like
• 7:21
  where
• 7:21
  do.
• 7:22
  In
• 7:23
  terms
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  diversity
• 7:24
  that
• 7:24
  happens
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  Middle
• 7:25
  Earth,
• 7:25
  these
• 7:26
  different
• 7:26
  races
• 7:27
  of
• 7:28
  elves,
• 7:28
  men,
• 7:29
  hobbits,
• 7:30
  elves,
• 7:30
  do
• 7:31
  they
• 7:31
  go
• 7:31
  to
• 7:31
  the
• 7:31
  same
• 7:31
  place
• 7:31
  or
• 7:31
  different
• 7:32
  one?
• 7:32
  I.
• 7:32
  I'm
• 7:33
  Nick,
• 7:33
  I'm.
• 7:33
  I'm
• 7:34
  curious.
• 7:34
  I.
• 7:34
  My,
• 7:35
  my
• 7:36
  just
• 7:36
  first
• 7:36
  hot
• 7:37
  take
• 7:37
  is
• 7:37
  like
• 7:37
  man,
• 7:38
  if
• 7:38
  they're
• 7:38
  entangled
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  do
• 7:39
  life
• 7:40
  together
• 7:40
  in
• 7:40
  Middle
• 7:40
  Earth,
• 7:41
  why
• 7:41
  wouldn't
• 7:41
  they
• 7:41
  do
• 7:42
  it
• 7:42
  after
• 7:42
  together?
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  same
• 7:44
  way
• 7:44
  like
• 7:44
  C.S.
• 7:44
  Lewis
• 7:45
  talks
• 7:45
  about,
• 7:45
  like.
• 7:45
  Yeah.
• 7:46
  Do
• 7:46
  dogs
• 7:46
  go
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  heaven?
• 7:47
  Well,
• 7:47
  they
• 7:47
  are
• 7:47
  animals
• 7:48
  go
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  heaven
• 7:48
  or
• 7:48
  animals
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  part
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  afterlife
• 7:50
  with
• 7:50
  us
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  new
• 7:51
  creation.
• 7:51
  If
• 7:51
  they
• 7:51
  have
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  big
• 7:52
  part
• 7:52
  of,
• 7:52
  of
• 7:53
  how
• 7:53
  we
• 7:53
  do
• 7:53
  life
• 7:53
  here
• 7:54
  on
• 7:54
  Earth
• 7:54
  now,
• 7:54
  why
• 7:54
  wouldn't
• 7:55
  they
• 7:55
  on
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  next
• 7:55
  one?
• 7:56
  Is
• 7:57
  it
• 7:57
  kind
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  my
• 7:57
  take
• 7:58
  on
• 7:58
  things?
• 7:58
  So
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  would
• 7:59
  say
• 7:59
  like
• 7:59
  yeah,
• 8:00
  se
• 8:01
  weird.
• 8:01
  Since
• 8:02
  they
• 8:02
  were
• 8:02
  so
• 8:04
  immersed
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  embedded
• 8:05
  with
• 8:05
  each
• 8:06
  other
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  their
• 8:06
  journeys
• 8:07
  together
• 8:08
  in
• 8:08
  that
• 8:08
  age
• 8:09
  together,
• 8:09
  why
• 8:09
  wouldn't
• 8:10
  be
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  next
• 8:10
  one?
• 8:10
  But
• 8:11
  Nick,
• 8:11
  what
• 8:11
  are
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  thinking?
• 8:11
  What
• 8:12
  drew
• 8:12
  that
• 8:12
  kind
• 8:13
  of
• 8:13
  question
• 8:14
  as
• 8:14
  we
• 8:14
  were
• 8:14
  discussing
• 8:15
  off
• 8:15
  air,
• 8:15
  what
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  would
• 8:16
  look
• 8:16
  like?
• 8:17
  You
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:17
  it's
• 8:17
  weird
• 8:18
  because
• 8:19
  Middle
• 8:20
  Earth
• 8:20
  is
• 8:20
  an
• 8:20
  interesting
• 8:21
  place
• 8:21
  in
• 8:21
  the
• 8:22
  way
• 8:22
  that
• 8:22
  Tolkien
• 8:22
  writes
• 8:23
  is
• 8:23
  because
• 8:23
  the
• 8:24
  dwarves,
• 8:25
  humans
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  elves
• 8:27
  and
• 8:27
  even
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  orcs
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  certain
• 8:29
  extent,
• 8:30
  all
• 8:30
  kind
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  believe
• 8:31
  in
• 8:32
  honor
• 8:33
  the
• 8:34
  same.
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  mean,
• 8:34
  not
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  same,
• 8:35
  but
• 8:35
  different
• 8:37
  beings,
• 8:37
  like
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  Valar
• 8:38
  and
• 8:38
  stuff.
• 8:39
  But
• 8:39
  they
• 8:40
  have
• 8:40
  their
• 8:40
  different
• 8:40
  traditions
• 8:41
  on
• 8:41
  how
• 8:41
  they
• 8:42
  function
• 8:42
  and
• 8:43
  interact
• 8:43
  with
• 8:43
  them
• 8:44
  throughout
• 8:45
  like
• 8:45
  their
• 8:46
  entire
• 8:46
  metaphysical
• 8:47
  existence.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:49
  like,
• 8:50
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  we're
• 8:51
  talking
• 8:51
  about
• 8:52
  death
• 8:52
  here.
• 8:53
  Okay.
• 8:53
  There
• 8:53
  is.
• 8:54
  There
• 8:54
  is
• 8:54
  no
• 8:54
  heaven
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  Middle
• 8:56
  Earth.
• 8:56
  Okay,
• 8:57
  right.
• 8:57
  And
• 8:59
  we'll.
• 9:00
  We'll.
• 9:00
  We'll
• 9:00
  stick
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  the
• 9:01
  beginning
• 9:01
  here.
• 9:01
  We'll
• 9:01
  talk
• 9:02
  about
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  life
• 9:02
  cycle.
• 9:03
  So
• 9:03
  elves
• 9:04
  are
• 9:05
  technically
• 9:05
  not
• 9:06
  immortal.
• 9:07
  They
• 9:07
  are
• 9:07
  serially
• 9:08
  long
• 9:09
  evil.
• 9:09
  Which
• 9:10
  means
• 9:10
  that
• 9:11
  as
• 9:11
  long
• 9:11
  as
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  earth
• 9:12
  exists
• 9:12
  and
• 9:13
  nobody
• 9:13
  kills
• 9:14
  them,
• 9:15
  they
• 9:16
  will
• 9:16
  live
• 9:17
  as
• 9:17
  long
• 9:17
  as
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  earth
• 9:18
  exists.
• 9:19
  Wow.
• 9:19
  So
• 9:20
  that's
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  elves.
• 9:20
  But
• 9:21
  once,
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  know,
• 9:22
  Iluvatar
• 9:22
  decides,
• 9:23
  you
• 9:23
  know,
• 9:23
  it's
• 9:24
  time
• 9:24
  to
• 9:24
  have
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  new
• 9:24
  creation,
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  elves
• 9:26
  will
• 9:27
  kind
• 9:27
  of
• 9:28
  be
• 9:28
  renewed
• 9:29
  or
• 9:30
  go,
• 9:30
  you
• 9:31
  know,
• 9:31
  whatever.
• 9:32
  So
• 9:32
  when.
• 9:32
  When
• 9:33
  elves
• 9:33
  die,
• 9:34
  their
• 9:34
  spirits
• 9:35
  go
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  this
• 9:35
  waiting
• 9:36
  place
• 9:38
  called
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  Halls
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  Mandos.
• 9:39
  There's
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  vala
• 9:41
  lower
• 9:41
  G
• 9:42
  God
• 9:42
  named
• 9:42
  Mandos,
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  he's
• 9:44
  basically
• 9:44
  just
• 9:44
  hanging
• 9:45
  out
• 9:45
  with
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  elves,
• 9:45
  their
• 9:46
  spirits,
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  eventually
• 9:49
  elves.
• 9:50
  Elves
• 9:50
  actually
• 9:50
  do
• 9:50
  reincarnate.
• 9:52
  So
• 9:52
  we
• 9:52
  only
• 9:52
  can
• 9:52
  see
• 9:53
  one
• 9:53
  instance
• 9:53
  in
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  whole
• 9:54
  legendarium.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:55
  it's
• 9:56
  this
• 9:56
  elf
• 9:56
  named
• 9:57
  Glorfindel.
• 9:58
  Okay.
• 9:59
  But
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  elves
• 10:00
  basically
• 10:00
  can
• 10:00
  reincarnate
• 10:01
  as
• 10:01
  they're.
• 10:02
  If
• 10:02
  they
• 10:02
  die,
• 10:02
  their
• 10:02
  spirit
• 10:03
  goes
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  Halls
• 10:03
  of
• 10:03
  Mandos.
• 10:04
  Mandos
• 10:05
  rehouses
• 10:05
  their
• 10:06
  bodies.
• 10:06
  Okay.
• 10:07
  That's
• 10:07
  one
• 10:07
  example.
• 10:09
  Men.
• 10:10
  Oh,
• 10:10
  sorry.
• 10:10
  Good.
• 10:10
  Well,
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  need.
• 10:12
  No,
• 10:12
  no,
• 10:12
  that's
• 10:12
  cool.
• 10:13
  I'm
• 10:13
  just
• 10:13
  like.
• 10:13
  I'm
• 10:13
  learning
• 10:13
  new
• 10:14
  stuff
• 10:14
  here.
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  didn't
• 10:14
  know
• 10:14
  all
• 10:14
  that.
• 10:15
  That's
• 10:15
  good.
• 10:16
  Yeah.
• 10:16
  So
• 10:16
  men,
• 10:18
  they
• 10:18
  can.
• 10:18
  They
• 10:19
  will
• 10:19
  die,
• 10:19
  right?
• 10:20
  Men
• 10:20
  are
• 10:20
  mortal.
• 10:21
  And
• 10:22
  humans
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  humans
• 10:24
  go
• 10:24
  beyond
• 10:24
  the
• 10:25
  walls
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  world.
• 10:26
  It's
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  mystery.
• 10:27
  No
• 10:27
  one
• 10:28
  knows
• 10:28
  where
• 10:29
  humans
• 10:29
  are
• 10:29
  going.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:30
  Illuvatar
• 10:31
  right
• 10:31
  now
• 10:31
  is
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  only
• 10:32
  one
• 10:32
  who
• 10:32
  can
• 10:33
  dwell
• 10:33
  outside
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  creation.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  apparently
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  tradition
• 10:38
  is
• 10:38
  that
• 10:39
  humans
• 10:39
  get
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  go
• 10:40
  beyond
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  walls
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  world.
• 10:43
  Possibly
• 10:44
  they
• 10:44
  might
• 10:44
  be
• 10:44
  hanging
• 10:45
  out
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  Halls
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  Mandos
• 10:46
  before
• 10:46
  they
• 10:46
  get
• 10:46
  there
• 10:47
  as
• 10:47
  like
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  transitionary
• 10:48
  place,
• 10:49
  but
• 10:49
  it's.
• 10:50
  It's
• 10:50
  unclear.
• 10:50
  We
• 10:51
  don't.
• 10:51
  The
• 10:52
  whole
• 10:53
  afterlife
• 10:53
  for.
• 10:54
  For
• 10:54
  humans
• 10:55
  is
• 10:55
  a
• 10:55
  mystery.
• 10:56
  Now
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  dwarves
• 10:57
  we
• 10:58
  know
• 10:58
  almost
• 10:59
  nothing
• 11:00
  with
• 11:00
  certainty
• 11:01
  about
• 11:01
  what's
• 11:02
  happening
• 11:02
  to
• 11:02
  them.
• 11:04
  The
• 11:04
  elves
• 11:04
  think
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  they
• 11:06
  just
• 11:06
  kind
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  go
• 11:06
  back
• 11:06
  to
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  dirt.
• 11:08
  They
• 11:08
  just
• 11:08
  become
• 11:08
  stone
• 11:09
  when
• 11:09
  they
• 11:09
  die.
• 11:10
  You
• 11:10
  know,
• 11:10
  classic
• 11:11
  elves.
• 11:11
  They're
• 11:12
  like,
• 11:12
  we
• 11:12
  get
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  go
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  Halls
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  Mandos
• 11:13
  and
• 11:13
  be
• 11:14
  reincarnated
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  live
• 11:15
  our
• 11:15
  best
• 11:15
  lives.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:16
  they're
• 11:16
  like,
• 11:16
  obviously
• 11:18
  back
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  Ash
• 11:18
  Wednesday.
• 11:19
  You
• 11:19
  dwarves,
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  short.
• 11:22
  You
• 11:22
  short
• 11:22
  people.
• 11:23
  Stunted
• 11:23
  ones.
• 11:24
  You.
• 11:24
  Oh,
• 11:24
  stunted
• 11:25
  ones.
• 11:27
  And.
• 11:27
  But
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  dwarves,
• 11:28
  you
• 11:28
  know,
• 11:29
  obviously
• 11:29
  are
• 11:29
  like,
• 11:30
  elna,
• 11:31
  that's
• 11:31
  not.
• 11:31
  That's
• 11:31
  not
• 11:31
  what
• 11:32
  happens
• 11:32
  to
• 11:32
  us.
• 11:32
  We.
• 11:33
  We
• 11:33
  actually
• 11:34
  go
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  our
• 11:34
  own
• 11:35
  little
• 11:35
  separate
• 11:36
  chamber
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  the
• 11:36
  hall
• 11:37
  of
• 11:37
  Mandos,
• 11:38
  and
• 11:38
  then
• 11:39
  basically,
• 11:39
  we're
• 11:39
  just
• 11:40
  chilling.
• 11:40
  We
• 11:40
  don't
• 11:40
  even
• 11:41
  get
• 11:41
  reincarnated.
• 11:41
  We're
• 11:42
  chilling,
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:42
  in
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  Halls
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  Mandos,
• 11:43
  living
• 11:44
  our
• 11:44
  heavenly
• 11:45
  life
• 11:45
  or
• 11:45
  whatever
• 11:45
  it
• 11:46
  is,
• 11:46
  until
• 11:47
  Illuvitar
• 11:48
  calls
• 11:48
  us
• 11:49
  back
• 11:49
  to
• 11:50
  restore.
• 11:50
  To
• 11:51
  fight
• 11:51
  in
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  last
• 11:51
  battle.
• 11:52
  There's
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  last
• 11:52
  battle?
• 11:53
  You
• 11:53
  know,
• 11:53
  kind
• 11:53
  of
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  sort
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  Armageddon
• 11:55
  type
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  deal.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:57
  Tolkien's
• 11:58
  legendarium,
• 11:58
  they'll
• 11:59
  fight
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  battle,
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  then
• 12:00
  they
• 12:00
  will
• 12:01
  help
• 12:02
  with
• 12:02
  the
• 12:03
  rebuilding
• 12:03
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  new
• 12:04
  creation.
• 12:05
  So
• 12:05
  that's
• 12:06
  kind
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  the
• 12:07
  sort
• 12:07
  of
• 12:07
  textual
• 12:08
  tradition
• 12:08
  of
• 12:08
  the
• 12:09
  afterlife.
• 12:10
  And
• 12:10
  hobbits
• 12:10
  are
• 12:11
  actually.
• 12:13
  They're
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  subspecies
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  humans,
• 12:15
  so
• 12:15
  the
• 12:16
  same
• 12:16
  things
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  happens
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  humans
• 12:18
  in
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  afterlife
• 12:19
  happen
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  hobbits
• 12:19
  as
• 12:20
  well,
• 12:20
  because
• 12:20
  they're
• 12:20
  technically
• 12:21
  humans.
• 12:22
  Gotcha.
• 12:22
  Yeah.
• 12:23
  Can
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  ask.
• 12:23
  Can
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  ask
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  a
• 12:24
  question,
• 12:24
  Nick?
• 12:25
  Yeah.
• 12:26
  This
• 12:26
  is
• 12:26
  in
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  long
• 12:27
  note,
• 12:27
  so
• 12:27
  we
• 12:28
  didn't
• 12:28
  get
• 12:28
  to.
• 12:28
  In
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  previous
• 12:29
  podcast.
• 12:31
  Okay.
• 12:32
  So
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  line
• 12:33
  in
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  peoples
• 12:34
  of
• 12:34
  Middle
• 12:34
  Earth
• 12:35
  about
• 12:35
  what
• 12:36
  happens
• 12:36
  to
• 12:36
  the
• 12:37
  dwarves
• 12:37
  is
• 12:38
  there
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  a
• 12:39
  light.
• 12:39
  This
• 12:39
  is
• 12:39
  Durin
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  seventh.
• 12:40
  The
• 12:41
  last
• 12:41
  Durin.
• 12:42
  So
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  restoration
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  all
• 12:44
  things,
• 12:44
  the
• 12:45
  Dwarves,
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  last
• 12:46
  Durin
• 12:46
  shows
• 12:46
  up,
• 12:48
  and
• 12:48
  they
• 12:49
  become
• 12:49
  like
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  master
• 12:50
  crafters
• 12:51
  to
• 12:51
  build
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  world
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  come.
• 12:53
  But
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  line
• 12:54
  there
• 12:54
  is.
• 12:54
  There
• 12:55
  was
• 12:55
  light
• 12:55
  again
• 12:55
  in
• 12:56
  deep
• 12:56
  places
• 12:56
  and
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  ringing
• 12:57
  of
• 12:57
  hammers
• 12:58
  and
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  harping
• 12:58
  of
• 12:59
  harps
• 12:59
  until
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  world
• 13:00
  grew
• 13:00
  old
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  dwarves
• 13:02
  failed
• 13:02
  in
• 13:02
  the.
• 13:03
  Of
• 13:03
  Doran's
• 13:03
  race
• 13:04
  ended.
• 13:04
  Right.
• 13:05
  Which
• 13:05
  if
• 13:05
  you're.
• 13:06
  If
• 13:06
  you're
• 13:06
  into
• 13:07
  Tolkien,
• 13:07
  you
• 13:07
  don't
• 13:08
  understand
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  that's
• 13:08
  like,
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  compliment
• 13:10
  because
• 13:11
  it's
• 13:11
  like
• 13:11
  this
• 13:11
  is
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  long
• 13:12
  defeat
• 13:13
  of,
• 13:14
  like,
• 13:14
  big
• 13:14
  Norse
• 13:15
  energy,
• 13:15
  right?
• 13:16
  And.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  so
• 13:18
  big
• 13:18
  Norse
• 13:18
  energy.
• 13:19
  Yeah.
• 13:20
  Yeah.
• 13:21
  Love
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  junk.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:22
  so.
• 13:23
  So
• 13:23
  the.
• 13:25
  Because
• 13:25
  there.
• 13:26
  There's
• 13:26
  the
• 13:27
  sense
• 13:27
  that,
• 13:27
  like,
• 13:27
  in
• 13:28
  our
• 13:28
  age,
• 13:29
  like
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  Fourth
• 13:30
  Age,
• 13:30
  like,
• 13:30
  where
• 13:31
  we
• 13:31
  are
• 13:31
  technically,
• 13:32
  if
• 13:32
  you,
• 13:32
  you
• 13:33
  know,
• 13:33
  if
• 13:33
  we
• 13:33
  take
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  legendarium
• 13:34
  as,
• 13:34
  like,
• 13:35
  setting
• 13:35
  up
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  age
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  men.
• 13:37
  Yeah.
• 13:37
  Then
• 13:38
  Tolkien's
• 13:39
  writing
• 13:39
  it
• 13:39
  all
• 13:40
  in
• 13:40
  a
• 13:40
  space
• 13:40
  where
• 13:41
  all
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  people
• 13:41
  are
• 13:41
  reporting
• 13:42
  are
• 13:42
  before
• 13:42
  our
• 13:42
  age.
• 13:43
  He's
• 13:43
  Catholic,
• 13:44
  so
• 13:44
  there's
• 13:44
  like
• 13:44
  this
• 13:44
  deep
• 13:45
  resonance
• 13:45
  with
• 13:45
  it
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  such.
• 13:47
  But
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  have
• 13:47
  this
• 13:47
  sense
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  like,
• 13:48
  no
• 13:48
  one,
• 13:49
  none
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  us
• 13:49
  have
• 13:49
  ever
• 13:49
  hung
• 13:50
  out
• 13:50
  with
• 13:50
  an
• 13:50
  elf,
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  Hobbit
• 13:51
  or
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  dwarf.
• 13:52
  So
• 13:52
  what
• 13:53
  did
• 13:53
  they
• 13:53
  do?
• 13:54
  Right?
• 13:54
  And.
• 13:55
  But
• 13:55
  they
• 13:55
  have
• 13:55
  this
• 13:56
  vocation
• 13:57
  as
• 13:59
  allies,
• 13:59
  creation
• 14:00
  or
• 14:01
  like
• 14:02
  sub
• 14:02
  creations
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  allay
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  like
• 14:03
  rebuild
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  everything
• 14:06
  at
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  world
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  come.
• 14:07
  So
• 14:07
  like
• 14:08
  the,
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  have
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  role
• 14:12
  as
• 14:12
  like
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  Master
• 14:13
  Builders
• 14:13
  of
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  Crescendo
• 14:15
  of
• 14:15
  Arda,
• 14:15
  the
• 14:16
  world,
• 14:16
  but
• 14:16
  they
• 14:16
  also
• 14:17
  get
• 14:17
  the
• 14:18
  whole.
• 14:18
  That
• 14:18
  one
• 14:19
  little
• 14:19
  line
• 14:19
  that
• 14:19
  has
• 14:20
  long
• 14:20
  defeat
• 14:20
  energy
• 14:21
  and.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  then
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  peoples
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  Middle
• 14:24
  Earth
• 14:24
  just
• 14:24
  moves
• 14:24
  on.
• 14:25
  There's
• 14:25
  not
• 14:26
  anything
• 14:26
  else
• 14:26
  there.
• 14:27
  So
• 14:28
  like,
• 14:28
  what
• 14:28
  are
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  supposed
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  do
• 14:29
  with
• 14:29
  that?
• 14:29
  Like,
• 14:30
  if
• 14:30
  you're
• 14:30
  like
• 14:30
  the
• 14:31
  Master
• 14:31
  builders
• 14:32
  for
• 14:32
  new
• 14:32
  creation,
• 14:33
  essentially,
• 14:34
  right,
• 14:34
  so
• 14:34
  this
• 14:34
  would
• 14:35
  be
• 14:35
  talking
• 14:35
  about
• 14:36
  new
• 14:36
  creation,
• 14:37
  like
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  new
• 14:38
  heavens
• 14:38
  and
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  new
• 14:38
  earth
• 14:39
  prior
• 14:39
  to
• 14:40
  Christ,
• 14:40
  if
• 14:40
  you're
• 14:41
  thinking
• 14:41
  Catholic
• 14:42
  Tolkien
• 14:43
  energies
• 14:43
  there.
• 14:44
  And
• 14:45
  so
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  have
• 14:45
  this
• 14:46
  vocation
• 14:46
  and
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  get,
• 14:48
  oh,
• 14:48
  well,
• 14:48
  also
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  long
• 14:49
  defeat
• 14:49
  line,
• 14:50
  right?
• 14:51
  Like
• 14:52
  I.
• 14:52
  None
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  PDFs
• 14:53
  that
• 14:53
  I
• 14:54
  uploaded
• 14:54
  when
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  started
• 14:55
  asking
• 14:55
  questions
• 14:55
  to,
• 14:56
  it
• 14:56
  gave
• 14:56
  me
• 14:56
  an
• 14:56
  answer
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  this.
• 14:57
  And
• 14:58
  so
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  was
• 14:59
  like,
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  want
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  ask
• 15:00
  Nick
• 15:00
  about
• 15:00
  this.
• 15:00
  But
• 15:00
  we
• 15:00
  didn't
• 15:01
  get
• 15:01
  to
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  our
• 15:02
  previous
• 15:03
  podcast.
• 15:04
  Yeah,
• 15:05
  yeah.
• 15:05
  Now
• 15:06
  this
• 15:06
  is.
• 15:06
  This
• 15:06
  is
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  fun
• 15:07
  thing
• 15:07
  about
• 15:07
  Tolkien
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  either
• 15:09
  is
• 15:09
  very
• 15:10
  frustrating
• 15:10
  or
• 15:12
  enjoyable
• 15:12
  or
• 15:13
  both,
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  that
• 15:16
  when
• 15:16
  it
• 15:16
  comes
• 15:16
  to
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  canonicity
• 15:18
  of
• 15:19
  Middle
• 15:19
  Earth,
• 15:21
  we've
• 15:22
  got
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  published
• 15:22
  versions,
• 15:23
  right?
• 15:23
  We've
• 15:23
  got
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  Hobbit,
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  Lord
• 15:24
  of
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  Rings
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  the
• 15:25
  Silmarillion
• 15:25
  are
• 15:25
  technically
• 15:26
  the
• 15:27
  finished
• 15:27
  standalone
• 15:28
  volumes.
• 15:29
  The
• 15:29
  thing
• 15:30
  with
• 15:30
  Tolkien
• 15:30
  is
• 15:31
  that
• 15:31
  he
• 15:31
  did
• 15:32
  not
• 15:32
  stop
• 15:33
  revising
• 15:35
  everything
• 15:35
  that
• 15:35
  he
• 15:36
  had
• 15:36
  ever
• 15:36
  written
• 15:37
  all
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  time.
• 15:38
  There
• 15:39
  are
• 15:40
  five
• 15:40
  different
• 15:41
  versions
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  Hobbit.
• 15:43
  There
• 15:43
  are
• 15:44
  so
• 15:44
  many
• 15:44
  different
• 15:45
  versions
• 15:45
  of
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  Lord
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  Rings.
• 15:46
  Tolkien
• 15:47
  wrote
• 15:47
  like
• 15:47
  six
• 15:48
  different
• 15:48
  versions
• 15:49
  of
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  Silmarillion
• 15:50
  before
• 15:51
  he.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:51
  he
• 15:51
  didn't
• 15:51
  even.
• 15:52
  He
• 15:52
  wasn't
• 15:53
  even
• 15:53
  published
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  his
• 15:53
  lifetime
• 15:54
  and
• 15:54
  his
• 15:55
  son
• 15:55
  compiled
• 15:56
  all
• 15:56
  this
• 15:57
  stuff
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  was
• 15:58
  like,
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  guess
• 15:58
  this
• 15:58
  is
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  Silmarillion.
• 16:00
  Here
• 16:00
  you
• 16:00
  go.
• 16:01
  And
• 16:01
  then,
• 16:02
  you
• 16:02
  know,
• 16:02
  after
• 16:03
  he
• 16:03
  was
• 16:03
  publishing
• 16:03
  all
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  his
• 16:04
  stuff,
• 16:05
  which
• 16:05
  the
• 16:06
  peoples
• 16:06
  of
• 16:06
  Middle
• 16:06
  Earth
• 16:07
  is
• 16:07
  part
• 16:07
  of
• 16:07
  this
• 16:07
  volume
• 16:08
  called
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  History
• 16:08
  of
• 16:09
  Middle
• 16:09
  Earth,
• 16:09
  which
• 16:10
  is
• 16:10
  now
• 16:10
  this
• 16:10
  like
• 16:11
  14
• 16:11
  volume
• 16:12
  extra
• 16:13
  writings
• 16:13
  that
• 16:14
  Tolkien
• 16:14
  did
• 16:14
  in
• 16:16
  Middle
• 16:16
  Earth.
• 16:17
  And
• 16:18
  some
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  it
• 16:19
  he
• 16:19
  wrote
• 16:19
  way
• 16:20
  before
• 16:20
  he
• 16:20
  finished
• 16:21
  Lord
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  Rings.
• 16:22
  And
• 16:22
  a
• 16:23
  lot
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  it
• 16:23
  he
• 16:23
  wrote
• 16:24
  after
• 16:24
  Lord
• 16:25
  of
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  Rings
• 16:25
  as
• 16:25
  he's
• 16:25
  revising
• 16:26
  everything.
• 16:27
  So
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  question,
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  answer
• 16:28
  is
• 16:29
  we
• 16:30
  don't
• 16:30
  know
• 16:30
  what
• 16:31
  happens
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  Dwarves?
• 16:32
  They
• 16:32
  could
• 16:33
  be.
• 16:34
  The
• 16:35
  line
• 16:35
  of
• 16:35
  Durin
• 16:35
  could
• 16:36
  end
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  long
• 16:36
  defeat
• 16:37
  happens.
• 16:37
  They
• 16:38
  could
• 16:38
  be
• 16:39
  in
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  halls
• 16:39
  of
• 16:39
  Mandos
• 16:40
  waiting
• 16:41
  until
• 16:41
  they
• 16:41
  are
• 16:42
  called
• 16:42
  back
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  fight
• 16:42
  the
• 16:43
  last
• 16:43
  battle
• 16:43
  and
• 16:43
  build
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  new
• 16:44
  creation.
• 16:44
  And
• 16:45
  maybe
• 16:45
  Khazad
• 16:46
  will
• 16:46
  be
• 16:46
  brought
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  its
• 16:47
  former
• 16:48
  glory
• 16:48
  or
• 16:49
  beyond.
• 16:50
  And
• 16:50
  ultimately,
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  think
• 16:52
  if
• 16:52
  we
• 16:52
  were
• 16:52
  to
• 16:53
  ask
• 16:53
  Tolkien,
• 16:53
  if
• 16:53
  he
• 16:54
  were
• 16:54
  to
• 16:54
  come
• 16:54
  back
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  we
• 16:54
  go,
• 16:56
  what's
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  answer?
• 16:57
  Tolkien,
• 16:58
  he
• 16:59
  would
• 16:59
  go,
• 17:00
  he
• 17:00
  would
• 17:01
  give
• 17:01
  us
• 17:01
  this
• 17:01
  long
• 17:02
  20
• 17:02
  page
• 17:03
  document,
• 17:04
  he
• 17:04
  would
• 17:05
  go
• 17:05
  back
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  resting,
• 17:06
  we'd
• 17:07
  come
• 17:07
  back
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  week
• 17:07
  later,
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  if
• 17:08
  we
• 17:08
  could
• 17:09
  use
• 17:09
  our
• 17:09
  medium
• 17:09
  powers
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  bring
• 17:10
  him
• 17:11
  back,
• 17:11
  he
• 17:11
  would
• 17:12
  write
• 17:12
  us
• 17:12
  another
• 17:12
  20
• 17:13
  page
• 17:15
  document
• 17:15
  with
• 17:16
  completely
• 17:17
  differing
• 17:18
  and
• 17:18
  conflicting
• 17:19
  answers.
• 17:20
  Would
• 17:20
  he
• 17:20
  have
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  hat
• 17:21
  that
• 17:21
  says
• 17:22
  make
• 17:22
  Khazadoom
• 17:23
  great
• 17:23
  again?
• 17:24
  Would
• 17:24
  he?
• 17:25
  No,
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  know,
• 17:27
  thankfully,
• 17:28
  I
• 17:29
  don't
• 17:29
  think
• 17:30
  so.
• 17:30
  Good,
• 17:31
  good.
• 17:31
  That's.
• 17:32
  That's
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  reassuring.
• 17:33
  Yeah.
• 17:34
  Now
• 17:34
  all
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  people
• 17:34
  out
• 17:35
  there
• 17:35
  hoping
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  Tolkien
• 17:36
  would
• 17:37
  be
• 17:37
  a
• 17:37
  red
• 17:38
  hat
• 17:38
  wearing.
• 17:39
  Yeah,
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  think
• 17:40
  it'd
• 17:40
  be
• 17:41
  like
• 17:42
  Carolina
• 17:42
  blue.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:43
  it's
• 17:43
  like
• 17:43
  Khazadoom
• 17:44
  just
• 17:44
  says,
• 17:46
  I.
• 17:46
  Kind
• 17:46
  of
• 17:46
  like
• 17:46
  that.
• 17:47
  The
• 17:47
  same
• 17:47
  people
• 17:48
  that
• 17:48
  want
• 17:48
  to
• 17:49
  ruin
• 17:49
  Tolkien
• 17:50
  also
• 17:50
  ruined
• 17:51
  Jesus
• 17:52
  and
• 17:52
  Bon
• 17:52
  Offer.
• 17:53
  So
• 17:53
  let's
• 17:54
  just
• 17:54
  not
• 17:54
  trust
• 17:54
  them.
• 17:54
  There's
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  trend.
• 17:55
  There's
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  trend
• 17:56
  there.
• 17:56
  Well,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  think
• 17:57
  that's
• 17:57
  interesting
• 17:58
  because,
• 17:58
  you
• 17:58
  know,
• 17:59
  like,
• 17:59
  yeah,
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  our
• 18:00
  other
• 18:01
  podcast
• 18:01
  we
• 18:01
  did,
• 18:01
  you
• 18:02
  can
• 18:02
  find
• 18:02
  over
• 18:02
  on
• 18:03
  our
• 18:03
  website
• 18:03
  in
• 18:03
  4th
• 18:04
  wall
• 18:04
  and
• 18:04
  all
• 18:05
  that
• 18:05
  in
• 18:05
  terms
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  the
• 18:06
  Dwarves,
• 18:06
  like
• 18:06
  sometimes
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  dwarves
• 18:08
  are
• 18:08
  kind
• 18:08
  of
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  forgotten
• 18:09
  race
• 18:09
  or,
• 18:10
  or
• 18:10
  in,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  know,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  have
• 18:12
  the,
• 18:12
  the
• 18:13
  men,
• 18:13
  you
• 18:13
  have
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  elves,
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  have
• 18:14
  the,
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  hobbits
• 18:15
  and,
• 18:15
  but
• 18:15
  the,
• 18:15
  but
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  doors
• 18:16
  are
• 18:16
  there
• 18:16
  that
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  a
• 18:18
  big
• 18:18
  impact
• 18:18
  in
• 18:18
  all
• 18:19
  this.
• 18:19
  And
• 18:19
  so
• 18:19
  these
• 18:20
  kind
• 18:20
  of
• 18:20
  speculative
• 18:20
  questions
• 18:21
  of,
• 18:21
  you
• 18:22
  know,
• 18:22
  will
• 18:22
  they
• 18:22
  all
• 18:22
  hang
• 18:22
  out
• 18:23
  together
• 18:23
  there
• 18:23
  in
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  afterlife?
• 18:24
  But,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:25
  know,
• 18:25
  what
• 18:25
  happened
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  after
• 18:25
  Lord
• 18:26
  of
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  Rings?
• 18:26
  I,
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  think
• 18:27
  they're,
• 18:28
  I
• 18:28
  think
• 18:28
  they're
• 18:28
  all
• 18:28
  together,
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  think
• 18:29
  because
• 18:29
  like
• 18:30
  that
• 18:30
  Fellowship
• 18:31
  of
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  Ring
• 18:31
  where
• 18:31
  they're
• 18:31
  sitting
• 18:32
  around
• 18:32
  trying
• 18:32
  to
• 18:32
  decide
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  they
• 18:33
  don't
• 18:33
  always
• 18:34
  have
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  agree
• 18:34
  for
• 18:35
  everything.
• 18:35
  Yeah,
• 18:36
  their,
• 18:36
  their
• 18:36
  friendship,
• 18:37
  their
• 18:37
  journey
• 18:37
  together
• 18:38
  is
• 18:38
  what
• 18:39
  molded
• 18:39
  them
• 18:39
  together
• 18:40
  in
• 18:40
  terms
• 18:40
  of.
• 18:41
  To
• 18:41
  either
• 18:42
  their,
• 18:42
  their
• 18:43
  common
• 18:43
  enemy
• 18:43
  or
• 18:44
  what
• 18:45
  they
• 18:45
  experienced
• 18:46
  together
• 18:47
  pulled
• 18:48
  them
• 18:48
  closer
• 18:49
  together
• 18:49
  to
• 18:49
  where
• 18:49
  they
• 18:49
  understood
• 18:50
  one
• 18:50
  another
• 18:50
  in
• 18:51
  terms
• 18:51
  of
• 18:51
  who
• 18:51
  they
• 18:51
  are.
• 18:52
  And
• 18:52
  so
• 18:53
  I
• 18:53
  don't
• 18:53
  think,
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  know,
• 18:54
  as
• 18:54
  Tripp
• 18:54
  says
• 18:55
  often
• 18:56
  on
• 18:56
  his
• 18:56
  podcast,
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  they,
• 18:57
  they
• 18:58
  are
• 18:58
  not
• 18:58
  themselves
• 18:59
  without
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  other,
• 18:59
  that,
• 19:00
  you
• 19:00
  know,
• 19:00
  they,
• 19:01
  they
• 19:01
  are,
• 19:02
  they're
• 19:02
  not
• 19:02
  the
• 19:03
  same
• 19:03
  without
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  other
• 19:04
  in,
• 19:05
  in
• 19:05
  their
• 19:05
  lives.
• 19:05
  And,
• 19:06
  and
• 19:06
  their
• 19:06
  relationships
• 19:07
  matter.
• 19:07
  So
• 19:08
  I,
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  think,
• 19:08
  I
• 19:09
  think
• 19:09
  they're,
• 19:09
  I
• 19:09
  think
• 19:09
  they're
• 19:09
  all
• 19:10
  together
• 19:10
  there
• 19:11
  in
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  afterlife.
• 19:12
  That
• 19:12
  how
• 19:13
  they
• 19:13
  journey
• 19:13
  together
• 19:14
  here
• 19:14
  and
• 19:14
  what
• 19:14
  they
• 19:14
  practiced
• 19:15
  and
• 19:15
  what
• 19:16
  they
• 19:16
  learned
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  experience
• 19:17
  here
• 19:17
  will
• 19:18
  affect
• 19:18
  in
• 19:18
  terms
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  what
• 19:19
  happens
• 19:19
  next
• 19:20
  in
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  next
• 19:21
  chapter
• 19:21
  or
• 19:21
  what
• 19:21
  that
• 19:21
  looks
• 19:22
  like
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  next
• 19:23
  age
• 19:24
  or
• 19:24
  realm
• 19:24
  and
• 19:25
  things.
• 19:25
  So,
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  here's
• 19:27
  my
• 19:27
  theory,
• 19:27
  Nick.
• 19:28
  You
• 19:28
  can
• 19:28
  tell
• 19:28
  me
• 19:28
  if
• 19:28
  this
• 19:29
  is
• 19:29
  good
• 19:29
  or
• 19:29
  not,
• 19:30
  but
• 19:31
  if
• 19:31
  Gimli
• 19:32
  goes
• 19:32
  with
• 19:33
  Legolas.
• 19:34
  Yeah.
• 19:34
  And
• 19:35
  they
• 19:35
  go
• 19:35
  off
• 19:35
  to
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  Gray
• 19:36
  Havens
• 19:37
  and
• 19:37
  then
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  think
• 19:37
  that
• 19:39
  now
• 19:39
  a
• 19:39
  Dwarf
• 19:40
  has
• 19:40
  been
• 19:40
  invited.
• 19:43
  Is
• 19:43
  there
• 19:43
  anything
• 19:44
  in
• 19:44
  ERU
• 19:44
  Iluvatar
• 19:45
  that
• 19:46
  would
• 19:46
  say
• 19:46
  a
• 19:47
  possibility
• 19:47
  is
• 19:48
  available
• 19:48
  to
• 19:49
  one
• 19:49
  in
• 19:49
  a
• 19:50
  race
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  is
• 19:51
  denied
• 19:51
  to
• 19:51
  all
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  others?
• 19:53
  That
• 19:53
  seems
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  low
• 19:55
  Auru
• 19:55
  Iluvatar
• 19:56
  move.
• 19:56
  And
• 19:57
  that's
• 19:57
  like
• 19:58
  beneath
• 19:58
  the
• 19:59
  character
• 19:59
  of
• 19:59
  God
• 20:00
  to
• 20:00
  do
• 20:00
  something
• 20:01
  like
• 20:01
  that.
• 20:01
  And
• 20:02
  so
• 20:02
  the
• 20:03
  Gimli
• 20:03
  goes
• 20:04
  is
• 20:04
  evidence
• 20:05
  that.
• 20:06
  That
• 20:07
  while
• 20:07
  Eruluvatar
• 20:09
  didn't
• 20:09
  plan
• 20:10
  initially
• 20:11
  for
• 20:11
  the
• 20:12
  creation
• 20:12
  of
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  Dwarves,
• 20:13
  when
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  recognize
• 20:14
  the
• 20:15
  role
• 20:15
  they
• 20:15
  played
• 20:16
  in
• 20:16
  a
• 20:16
  series
• 20:16
  of
• 20:17
  view
• 20:17
  catastrophes
• 20:18
  makes
• 20:18
  ERU
• 20:19
  Iluvatar's
• 20:20
  whole
• 20:20
  story
• 20:21
  come
• 20:21
  into
• 20:21
  being.
• 20:22
  They're
• 20:22
  now
• 20:22
  essential
• 20:23
  to
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  narrative
• 20:24
  itself.
• 20:25
  Kind
• 20:25
  of
• 20:25
  unplanned
• 20:26
  redemption
• 20:26
  arc,
• 20:26
  right?
• 20:27
  Kind
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  an
• 20:27
  unplanned.
• 20:28
  Yeah.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  gentile.
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  just
• 20:31
  want
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  say
• 20:31
  it's
• 20:31
  really
• 20:32
  nice
• 20:32
  that.
• 20:34
  That
• 20:34
  God
• 20:34
  had
• 20:34
  some
• 20:35
  improv.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:36
  can
• 20:36
  we.
• 20:37
  Other
• 20:37
  people
• 20:37
  can
• 20:38
  be
• 20:39
  into
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  branch
• 20:39
  of
• 20:40
  promise.
• 20:40
  Yes.
• 20:40
  And
• 20:40
  yes.
• 20:41
  And
• 20:41
  baby.
• 20:41
  Yes.
• 20:42
  That.
• 20:43
  That.
• 20:44
  That's
• 20:44
  like.
• 20:45
  That's.
• 20:46
  That's
• 20:46
  a
• 20:46
  trip.
• 20:46
  Who
• 20:47
  will
• 20:47
  read
• 20:47
  my
• 20:48
  own
• 20:48
  religious
• 20:48
  tradition?
• 20:49
  And
• 20:49
  where
• 20:50
  there's
• 20:50
  a
• 20:50
  deep
• 20:50
  wideness
• 20:51
  of
• 20:51
  God's
• 20:52
  mercy
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  Ariel
• 20:53
  Lupitard
• 20:54
  would
• 20:55
  be
• 20:55
  like,
• 20:55
  well,
• 20:55
  if
• 20:56
  Gimli's
• 20:56
  here,
• 20:57
  then
• 20:57
  it
• 20:57
  is
• 20:58
  now
• 20:58
  a
• 20:58
  possibility
• 20:58
  for
• 20:59
  all
• 20:59
  Dwarves.
• 21:00
  And
• 21:00
  because
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  Dwarves
• 21:02
  have
• 21:02
  this
• 21:02
  sense
• 21:03
  that.
• 21:03
  Because
• 21:04
  if
• 21:04
  you
• 21:04
  listen
• 21:04
  to
• 21:04
  other
• 21:05
  podcasts,
• 21:05
  Doran,
• 21:07
  who
• 21:07
  has
• 21:07
  multiple
• 21:08
  instantiations,
• 21:09
  seven
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  them
• 21:10
  all
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  way
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  end.
• 21:11
  And
• 21:11
  then
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  line
• 21:12
  has
• 21:12
  this
• 21:12
  like
• 21:13
  ongoing
• 21:14
  reincarnation.
• 21:16
  Ish,
• 21:16
  echoey
• 21:17
  shared
• 21:18
  vibe
• 21:19
  of
• 21:19
  identity.
• 21:20
  Doran
• 21:21
  is
• 21:21
  like
• 21:21
  the
• 21:22
  first
• 21:22
  fruits
• 21:23
  of
• 21:23
  Dwarfish
• 21:24
  participation
• 21:25
  in
• 21:25
  eschatological
• 21:26
  banquet.
• 21:28
  Yeah,
• 21:29
  say
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  sentence
• 21:29
  again.
• 21:30
  Say
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  louder
• 21:31
  in
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  back
• 21:31
  for
• 21:31
  those
• 21:31
  in
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  back.
• 21:32
  What
• 21:32
  did
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  say?
• 21:33
  True.
• 21:33
  That's
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  beautiful
• 21:34
  sentence.
• 21:35
  So
• 21:35
  Dorian
• 21:35
  gets.
• 21:36
  Doran
• 21:37
  gets
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  goes
• 21:38
  with
• 21:38
  Legolas
• 21:39
  into
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  Gray
• 21:39
  Havens.
• 21:40
  Right.
• 21:40
  Which
• 21:40
  is
• 21:41
  like
• 21:41
  a
• 21:41
  way
• 21:41
  of
• 21:41
  being
• 21:42
  like.
• 21:42
  No,
• 21:42
  no,
• 21:42
  he's
• 21:43
  for
• 21:43
  real.
• 21:43
  Right.
• 21:43
  Like
• 21:44
  Bilbo
• 21:44
  Frodo
• 21:45
  were
• 21:45
  there.
• 21:45
  He's
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  firstborn
• 21:46
  of
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  first
• 21:47
  fruits
• 21:47
  of
• 21:47
  the.
• 21:48
  Yeah.
• 21:48
  So
• 21:48
  like
• 21:49
  how
• 21:49
  Christ
• 21:50
  is
• 21:50
  raised
• 21:50
  from
• 21:50
  the
• 21:51
  dead
• 21:51
  and
• 21:51
  pulls
• 21:51
  Adam
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  Eve
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  everyone
• 21:52
  else
• 21:53
  that
• 21:53
  has
• 21:53
  passed
• 21:54
  before
• 21:55
  right
• 21:55
  out
• 21:55
  of
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  grave.
• 21:56
  Sticking
• 21:56
  it
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  Satan
• 21:57
  and
• 21:57
  shit.
• 22:01
  Because
• 22:01
  he's
• 22:02
  there.
• 22:02
  It
• 22:02
  says
• 22:03
  not
• 22:03
  just
• 22:03
  something
• 22:04
  about
• 22:05
  him,
• 22:05
  as
• 22:05
  if
• 22:06
  he's
• 22:06
  ascended
• 22:07
  to
• 22:07
  heavens
• 22:07
  as
• 22:07
  this
• 22:08
  rare
• 22:08
  exception.
• 22:09
  He's
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  revelation
• 22:10
  of
• 22:11
  God's
• 22:12
  Eruluvatar's
• 22:13
  ultimate
• 22:14
  adoption
• 22:15
  of
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  Dwarvish
• 22:17
  people
• 22:17
  into
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  life
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  God.
• 22:18
  And
• 22:19
  so
• 22:19
  Gimli
• 22:20
  as
• 22:20
  an
• 22:20
  heir
• 22:21
  of
• 22:21
  Durin
• 22:22
  is
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  first
• 22:23
  fruits
• 22:23
  of
• 22:23
  Durin's
• 22:24
  people
• 22:25
  in
• 22:26
  to
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  halls
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  Mendas,
• 22:28
  all
• 22:28
  that
• 22:28
  kind
• 22:28
  of
• 22:29
  stuff.
• 22:29
  Like
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  like,
• 22:31
  there's
• 22:32
  nothing
• 22:32
  in
• 22:32
  it
• 22:32
  that
• 22:32
  I
• 22:32
  could
• 22:33
  come
• 22:33
  up
• 22:33
  with
• 22:33
  that
• 22:33
  says
• 22:33
  that's
• 22:34
  not
• 22:34
  possible
• 22:35
  and
• 22:35
  it's
• 22:36
  so
• 22:36
  cool
• 22:36
  it
• 22:36
  should
• 22:37
  be
• 22:37
  true.
• 22:37
  Yeah,
• 22:37
  that's
• 22:38
  trips
• 22:38
  theory.
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  love
• 22:39
  it.
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  love
• 22:42
  that
• 22:42
  too.
• 22:42
  And
• 22:42
  for
• 22:43
  those
• 22:43
  like,
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  know,
• 22:44
  Illuvatar
• 22:45
  does
• 22:45
  make
• 22:46
  exceptions
• 22:46
  for
• 22:47
  people
• 22:47
  throughout
• 22:47
  the
• 22:48
  legendarium.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:49
  for
• 22:49
  those
• 22:50
  who
• 22:50
  are
• 22:50
  unfamiliar,
• 22:51
  there
• 22:51
  is
• 22:52
  a
• 22:52
  story
• 22:52
  called
• 22:53
  Beren
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  Luthien.
• 22:55
  And
• 22:55
  it
• 22:55
  is
• 22:55
  a
• 22:56
  story.
• 22:56
  It's
• 22:56
  one
• 22:56
  of
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  few
• 22:57
  times
• 22:58
  an
• 22:58
  elf
• 22:59
  and
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  human
• 23:00
  can
• 23:01
  intermingle.
• 23:02
  Interwed.
• 23:03
  Okay.
• 23:04
  For
• 23:04
  some
• 23:04
  reason,
• 23:05
  Tolkien
• 23:06
  doesn't
• 23:06
  really
• 23:06
  like
• 23:07
  in
• 23:07
  the
• 23:08
  legendarium.
• 23:08
  For
• 23:08
  some
• 23:09
  reason
• 23:09
  dwarves
• 23:09
  and
• 23:10
  elves
• 23:10
  can't
• 23:10
  get
• 23:10
  together.
• 23:11
  And
• 23:11
  elves
• 23:12
  and
• 23:12
  humans.
• 23:12
  What
• 23:13
  about
• 23:13
  the
• 23:13
  hobbits?
• 23:15
  The
• 23:15
  hobbits?
• 23:16
  That's
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  great
• 23:16
  question.
• 23:17
  Technique,
• 23:17
  you
• 23:18
  know.
• 23:18
  That's
• 23:18
  a
• 23:18
  great
• 23:18
  question.
• 23:18
  Can
• 23:19
  I.
• 23:19
  Can
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  human
• 23:20
  get
• 23:20
  with
• 23:20
  a
• 23:20
  hobbit?
• 23:21
  You
• 23:21
  know.
• 23:21
  Oh,
• 23:22
  no.
• 23:22
  But
• 23:22
  here's
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  thing.
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  was
• 23:23
  thinking
• 23:23
  about
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  dwarf
• 23:24
  elf
• 23:24
  love
• 23:25
  in
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  hobbit
• 23:25
  movie.
• 23:28
  Oh.
• 23:29
  Oh,
• 23:29
  yeah.
• 23:29
  What
• 23:30
  was
• 23:30
  it
• 23:30
  feeling.
• 23:31
  Is
• 23:31
  it
• 23:31
  Keely?
• 23:32
  No.
• 23:32
  Who
• 23:32
  is
• 23:32
  it?
• 23:32
  Yeah,
• 23:32
  it's
• 23:32
  Keely.
• 23:33
  Yeah.
• 23:34
  Terry
• 23:35
  L.
• 23:35
  Oh,
• 23:35
  yeah.
• 23:36
  Oh
• 23:36
  yeah.
• 23:38
  Where's
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  story
• 23:39
  at
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  Legendarium,
• 23:41
  where.
• 23:41
  You're
• 23:41
  just
• 23:42
  not
• 23:42
  anywhere.
• 23:43
  Oh,
• 23:43
  which
• 23:43
  one
• 23:43
  are
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  talking
• 23:44
  about?
• 23:44
  The.
• 23:45
  The
• 23:45
  one
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  just
• 23:46
  referenced.
• 23:46
  Like
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  legendarium
• 23:47
  of
• 23:48
  the.
• 23:49
  What
• 23:49
  you
• 23:49
  were
• 23:50
  just
• 23:50
  talking
• 23:50
  about
• 23:50
  of
• 23:50
  Gimli
• 23:51
  and
• 23:51
  Legolas.
• 23:52
  No,
• 23:52
  no,
• 23:52
  the
• 23:53
  starts
• 23:53
  with
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  bee.
• 23:55
  Oh,
• 23:55
  Brennan.
• 23:55
  Luthien.
• 23:56
  Yeah.
• 23:56
  Where
• 23:57
  is
• 23:57
  that?
• 23:58
  That
• 23:58
  is
• 23:58
  in
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  Silmarillion.
• 23:59
  Okay.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  so
• 24:00
  it
• 24:01
  is
• 24:02
  one
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  great
• 24:02
  tales.
• 24:03
  Tolkien
• 24:03
  has
• 24:04
  three
• 24:05
  really
• 24:06
  main
• 24:06
  texts
• 24:07
  that
• 24:07
  are
• 24:07
  considered
• 24:08
  like
• 24:08
  his
• 24:09
  epics,
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  know,
• 24:10
  and
• 24:11
  Burren
• 24:11
  and
• 24:11
  Luthien
• 24:12
  is
• 24:12
  one
• 24:12
  of
• 24:12
  them.
• 24:13
  And
• 24:13
  so
• 24:13
  Baron
• 24:14
  is
• 24:14
  a
• 24:15
  man,
• 24:15
  he's
• 24:16
  a
• 24:16
  human,
• 24:16
  and
• 24:17
  he
• 24:17
  falls
• 24:17
  in
• 24:17
  love
• 24:18
  with
• 24:18
  an
• 24:19
  elf
• 24:19
  maiden
• 24:20
  named
• 24:21
  Luthien.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:22
  they
• 24:23
  go
• 24:23
  through
• 24:23
  this
• 24:23
  awesome
• 24:24
  quest.
• 24:24
  They
• 24:25
  basically
• 24:26
  temporarily
• 24:27
  defeat
• 24:27
  Morgoth
• 24:28
  who
• 24:28
  is
• 24:28
  like
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  Og
• 24:29
  Satan
• 24:29
  character.
• 24:30
  And
• 24:32
  Baron,
• 24:33
  spoiler
• 24:34
  alert,
• 24:34
  dies.
• 24:35
  And
• 24:36
  Luthien
• 24:37
  sings
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  Mandos
• 24:39
  into
• 24:39
  the
• 24:40
  Valar
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  say,
• 24:41
  hey,
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  know
• 24:41
  this
• 24:41
  dude's
• 24:42
  immortal,
• 24:42
  but
• 24:42
  can
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  like
• 24:43
  bring
• 24:43
  him
• 24:43
  back
• 24:43
  from
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  dead?
• 24:44
  And
• 24:45
  they're
• 24:45
  like,
• 24:45
  damn,
• 24:45
  Girl,
• 24:46
  that's
• 24:46
  a
• 24:46
  good
• 24:46
  voice.
• 24:47
  Yeah,
• 24:47
  we're
• 24:48
  gonna
• 24:48
  bring
• 24:48
  him
• 24:48
  back
• 24:48
  from
• 24:48
  the
• 24:49
  dead
• 24:49
  for
• 24:49
  you.
• 24:49
  Damn.
• 24:51
  So
• 24:52
  they.
• 24:53
  And,
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  know,
• 24:53
  they
• 24:54
  don't
• 24:54
  get
• 24:54
  to
• 24:54
  get
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  be
• 24:55
  together,
• 24:55
  but
• 24:56
  eventually
• 24:57
  they
• 24:57
  both
• 24:57
  die.
• 24:58
  Or.
• 24:58
  No,
• 25:00
  it's
• 25:00
  unclear
• 25:01
  actually,
• 25:02
  whether
• 25:02
  or
• 25:03
  not
• 25:03
  they
• 25:03
  die
• 25:05
  again.
• 25:06
  But
• 25:07
  regardless,
• 25:07
  they
• 25:08
  do
• 25:08
  spend
• 25:08
  eternity
• 25:09
  together,
• 25:09
  which
• 25:10
  for
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  human
• 25:10
  and
• 25:11
  elf,
• 25:11
  is
• 25:11
  not
• 25:11
  normal.
• 25:12
  You
• 25:12
  know,
• 25:12
  they're
• 25:12
  kind
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  separate.
• 25:14
  And
• 25:15
  that's
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  story
• 25:15
  Aragorn
• 25:16
  is
• 25:16
  telling
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  hobbits
• 25:18
  at
• 25:18
  Weathertop.
• 25:19
  Like,
• 25:19
  right
• 25:20
  before
• 25:20
  they
• 25:20
  get
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  Weathertop,
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  song
• 25:21
  he
• 25:22
  sings,
• 25:22
  like,
• 25:23
  what
• 25:23
  are
• 25:23
  you
• 25:23
  singing?
• 25:24
  Oh,
• 25:24
  it's
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  story
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  Baron
• 25:25
  and
• 25:25
  Luthien.
• 25:26
  You
• 25:27
  get
• 25:27
  these
• 25:27
  little
• 25:27
  bits
• 25:28
  in
• 25:28
  Lord
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  the
• 25:29
  Rings,
• 25:29
  and
• 25:29
  then
• 25:29
  when
• 25:29
  you
• 25:30
  finally
• 25:30
  read
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  Silmarillion,
• 25:31
  you're
• 25:31
  like,
• 25:31
  oh,
• 25:32
  junk.
• 25:32
  There's
• 25:32
  like
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  whole
• 25:34
  200
• 25:34
  page
• 25:34
  book
• 25:35
  of
• 25:35
  this
• 25:35
  story
• 25:36
  in
• 25:36
  here
• 25:36
  that
• 25:37
  one
• 25:38
  song
• 25:38
  was
• 25:38
  telling
• 25:38
  me
• 25:39
  about.
• 25:39
  And
• 25:40
  it's
• 25:40
  like,
• 25:40
  why
• 25:41
  Aragorn
• 25:42
  and
• 25:42
  Arwen,
• 25:43
  like,
• 25:43
  they
• 25:44
  are
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  echo
• 25:44
  of
• 25:45
  Beren
• 25:45
  and
• 25:45
  Luthien
• 25:46
  and
• 25:47
  what's
• 25:48
  on
• 25:48
  Tolkien's
• 25:48
  grave,
• 25:49
  Nick?
• 25:49
  Oh,
• 25:50
  yeah.
• 25:50
  Tolkien
• 25:51
  wrote
• 25:51
  the
• 25:52
  story.
• 25:52
  He
• 25:52
  considered
• 25:53
  himself
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  be
• 25:54
  Baron
• 25:54
  and
• 25:55
  his
• 25:55
  wife
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  be
• 25:55
  Luthien.
• 25:56
  And
• 25:56
  on
• 25:56
  his
• 25:57
  grave,
• 25:57
  it's
• 25:57
  Baron
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  Luthien
• 25:59
  with
• 25:59
  him
• 25:59
  and
• 26:00
  his
• 26:00
  wife's
• 26:00
  grave
• 26:01
  where
• 26:01
  they're
• 26:01
  buried
• 26:02
  together.
• 26:02
  Come
• 26:02
  on.
• 26:03
  Yeah,
• 26:03
  it's
• 26:04
  pretty
• 26:04
  gangster,
• 26:04
  dude.
• 26:05
  Yeah.
• 26:07
  Yeah.
• 26:07
  But
• 26:07
  I
• 26:08
  want
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  affirm
• 26:08
  Trip's
• 26:08
  headcanon
• 26:09
  about
• 26:09
  Gimli
• 26:10
  and
• 26:10
  Legolas,
• 26:10
  because
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  do
• 26:11
  think
• 26:11
  that
• 26:11
  their
• 26:12
  exceptions
• 26:12
  could
• 26:13
  be
• 26:13
  made.
• 26:13
  And
• 26:14
  not
• 26:14
  only
• 26:14
  is
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  Legolas
• 26:16
  friendship,
• 26:17
  but
• 26:17
  Galadriel
• 26:18
  actually
• 26:19
  appeals
• 26:20
  to
• 26:20
  the
• 26:21
  Valar
• 26:22
  on
• 26:23
  Gimli's
• 26:23
  behalf.
• 26:25
  So
• 26:25
  we
• 26:26
  don't
• 26:26
  know
• 26:26
  what
• 26:26
  happens.
• 26:28
  Yeah,
• 26:29
  he's
• 26:29
  got
• 26:29
  her
• 26:30
  hair
• 26:30
  around.
• 26:30
  He's
• 26:31
  got
• 26:31
  her
• 26:31
  hair,
• 26:31
  dude.
• 26:32
  Put
• 26:33
  in
• 26:33
  crystal,
• 26:33
  dude.
• 26:36
  Anyone
• 26:37
  for
• 26:37
  hair?
• 26:37
  But
• 26:37
  Will.
• 26:41
  Yeah,
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  think.
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  think
• 26:43
  my
• 26:43
  dog
• 26:43
  Woody.
• 26:44
  Yeah,
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  had
• 26:44
  some
• 26:45
  snippets
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  Woody's
• 26:46
  hair.
• 26:46
  In
• 26:46
  case
• 26:46
  I
• 26:47
  want
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  clone
• 26:47
  in
• 26:47
  case
• 26:47
  I
• 26:48
  want
• 26:48
  to
• 26:48
  clone
• 26:48
  that
• 26:48
  thing.
• 26:52
  Let
• 26:52
  me
• 26:52
  claim
• 26:53
  the
• 26:53
  Woodster.
• 26:55
  Didn't
• 26:55
  Tom
• 26:55
  Brady
• 26:56
  clone
• 26:56
  his
• 26:56
  dog?
• 26:57
  Maybe.
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  don't
• 26:59
  know.
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  don't
• 27:00
  know.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  believe
• 27:02
  I'll
• 27:02
  ask
• 27:02
  Bill
• 27:02
  Belichick
• 27:03
  here
• 27:03
  on
• 27:03
  campus
• 27:03
  if
• 27:04
  that's
• 27:04
  true.
• 27:05
  When
• 27:05
  I
• 27:06
  run
• 27:06
  into
• 27:06
  him
• 27:06
  here
• 27:06
  at
• 27:07
  unc,
• 27:07
  I'll
• 27:08
  ask
• 27:08
  him
• 27:08
  that
• 27:08
  question.
• 27:10
  All
• 27:10
  right,
• 27:10
  so
• 27:10
  I
• 27:11
  trips.
• 27:11
  Trips
• 27:11
  to
• 27:12
  their
• 27:12
  question
• 27:12
  here.
• 27:13
  What
• 27:13
  was
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  second
• 27:14
  question?
• 27:15
  Well,
• 27:15
  what
• 27:15
  happened
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  the
• 27:16
  Dwarves
• 27:16
  after
• 27:16
  Lord
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  Rings?
• 27:17
  And
• 27:17
  I
• 27:17
  think
• 27:17
  Nick
• 27:18
  touched
• 27:19
  tip
• 27:19
  to
• 27:19
  side
• 27:20
  to
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  when.
• 27:20
  When
• 27:21
  you
• 27:21
  were
• 27:21
  talking
• 27:21
  about,
• 27:22
  like,
• 27:22
  Gimli,
• 27:23
  but
• 27:23
  also,
• 27:23
  like,
• 27:24
  you
• 27:24
  guys.
• 27:25
  You
• 27:25
  guys
• 27:25
  were.
• 27:26
  Yeah,
• 27:27
  yeah,
• 27:27
  we
• 27:27
  don't
• 27:27
  know
• 27:28
  what
• 27:28
  happened
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  Dwarves,
• 27:29
  we
• 27:29
  don't
• 27:29
  know
• 27:29
  what
• 27:29
  happened.
• 27:30
  But.
• 27:32
  Well,
• 27:32
  we
• 27:32
  do
• 27:32
  know
• 27:32
  what.
• 27:33
  We
• 27:33
  do
• 27:33
  know
• 27:33
  what
• 27:33
  Gimli
• 27:34
  did.
• 27:34
  It
• 27:35
  was
• 27:35
  my
• 27:35
  answer
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  third
• 27:36
  question.
• 27:36
  Okay,
• 27:37
  yeah,
• 27:38
  like
• 27:39
  where
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  want
• 27:39
  to
• 27:39
  go?
• 27:39
  Which,
• 27:40
  which
• 27:40
  dwarven
• 27:41
  realm?
• 27:41
  Yeah,
• 27:42
  I
• 27:42
  like
• 27:42
  this
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  we're
• 27:43
  gonna
• 27:44
  go
• 27:44
  with
• 27:44
  each
• 27:44
  other.
• 27:45
  So,
• 27:45
  so
• 27:45
  if
• 27:46
  we
• 27:46
  were
• 27:46
  going
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  journey
• 27:46
  to,
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  a
• 27:47
  dwarven
• 27:48
  realm,
• 27:48
  which,
• 27:48
  which
• 27:48
  one
• 27:49
  we
• 27:49
  go
• 27:49
  to
• 27:49
  in
• 27:49
  any
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  the
• 27:50
  ages.
• 27:50
  And
• 27:50
  I'm,
• 27:51
  I,
• 27:51
  I'm.
• 27:51
  I
• 27:52
  do
• 27:52
  not
• 27:52
  know
• 27:52
  this
• 27:52
  lore
• 27:53
  is.
• 27:53
  It's
• 27:54
  not
• 27:54
  anywhere
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  my
• 27:55
  bandwidth
• 27:56
  or
• 27:57
  head
• 27:57
  about
• 27:57
  that.
• 27:57
  But
• 27:58
  I'm
• 27:58
  trust
• 27:58
  y'
• 27:59
  all
• 27:59
  and
• 27:59
  follow
• 27:59
  y'
• 27:59
  all
• 27:59
  and
• 28:00
  let
• 28:00
  me
• 28:00
  know
• 28:00
  and
• 28:01
  you
• 28:01
  can
• 28:01
  convince
• 28:01
  me
• 28:02
  one
• 28:02
  or
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  other.
• 28:03
  But,
• 28:04
  but
• 28:04
  go
• 28:04
  for
• 28:04
  it.
• 28:04
  Where,
• 28:05
  where,
• 28:05
  where
• 28:05
  are
• 28:05
  we
• 28:05
  headed?
• 28:06
  Where
• 28:06
  are
• 28:06
  we
• 28:06
  going?
• 28:06
  Where
• 28:06
  are
• 28:06
  our
• 28:07
  options?
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  want
• 28:08
  to
• 28:08
  build
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  glittering
• 28:08
  caves.
• 28:09
  The
• 28:09
  glittering
• 28:10
  caves.
• 28:10
  So
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  know
• 28:10
  how
• 28:11
  Helm's
• 28:11
  Deep
• 28:12
  in
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  book,
• 28:12
  which
• 28:12
  is
• 28:14
  very
• 28:14
  different
• 28:14
  than
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  movie
• 28:15
  of
• 28:15
  Helm's
• 28:16
  Deep.
• 28:16
  Gimli
• 28:17
  gets
• 28:17
  stuck
• 28:17
  in
• 28:17
  this
• 28:17
  cave
• 28:18
  because
• 28:19
  he's
• 28:21
  like,
• 28:21
  you
• 28:21
  get
• 28:21
  the
• 28:22
  bomb
• 28:22
  goes
• 28:22
  off
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  all
• 28:23
  this
• 28:23
  kind
• 28:24
  of
• 28:24
  thing
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  they
• 28:24
  gotta
• 28:24
  like
• 28:25
  fight
• 28:25
  back.
• 28:25
  They
• 28:25
  get
• 28:25
  stuck
• 28:26
  in
• 28:26
  this
• 28:26
  cave.
• 28:27
  Well,
• 28:27
  next
• 28:27
  to
• 28:28
  Helm's
• 28:28
  Deep,
• 28:28
  there's
• 28:29
  this
• 28:29
  cave.
• 28:29
  And
• 28:30
  like
• 28:31
  on
• 28:31
  top
• 28:31
  of
• 28:31
  him
• 28:31
  just
• 28:32
  like
• 28:32
  taking
• 28:32
  down
• 28:32
  Orcs
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  stuff
• 28:33
  in
• 28:33
  there,
• 28:34
  not
• 28:34
  dying,
• 28:35
  he's
• 28:35
  like,
• 28:35
  look
• 28:36
  at
• 28:36
  this
• 28:36
  cave.
• 28:36
  This
• 28:36
  is
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  great
• 28:37
  cave.
• 28:37
  This
• 28:37
  is
• 28:38
  high
• 28:38
  quality,
• 28:39
  high
• 28:39
  quality
• 28:40
  cave
• 28:40
  work
• 28:40
  here.
• 28:41
  What
• 28:41
  are
• 28:42
  these
• 28:42
  humans
• 28:42
  doing?
• 28:43
  They
• 28:43
  have
• 28:43
  not
• 28:44
  crafted
• 28:44
  this
• 28:44
  cave
• 28:45
  up.
• 28:46
  Why
• 28:46
  would
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  have
• 28:46
  such
• 28:46
  a
• 28:47
  high
• 28:47
  quality
• 28:47
  cave
• 28:48
  here?
• 28:48
  This
• 28:49
  is
• 28:49
  so
• 28:49
  compellingly
• 28:50
  beautiful
• 28:50
  and
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  haven't
• 28:51
  worked
• 28:51
  the
• 28:52
  rock.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:54
  he
• 28:54
  brings
• 28:54
  us
• 28:55
  up
• 28:55
  repeatedly
• 28:56
  throughout
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  rest
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  book
• 28:58
  to
• 28:58
  Legolas.
• 28:59
  And
• 28:59
  they
• 28:59
  make
• 29:00
  this
• 29:00
  little
• 29:00
  deal
• 29:01
  of
• 29:01
  like
• 29:01
  what
• 29:01
  they're
• 29:02
  going
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  do
• 29:02
  if
• 29:02
  they
• 29:03
  survive.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:04
  where
• 29:04
  Gimli
• 29:04
  wants
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  go
• 29:05
  with
• 29:05
  Legolas
• 29:06
  is
• 29:06
  back
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  glittering
• 29:07
  caves.
• 29:07
  So
• 29:08
  what
• 29:08
  we
• 29:09
  know
• 29:09
  about
• 29:10
  is
• 29:11
  he
• 29:11
  doesn't
• 29:11
  just
• 29:11
  go
• 29:12
  back
• 29:12
  there.
• 29:13
  He,
• 29:13
  he,
• 29:14
  he
• 29:14
  Dwarves
• 29:15
  this
• 29:15
  junk
• 29:15
  up
• 29:16
  and
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  glittering
• 29:17
  case
• 29:17
  become
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  most
• 29:19
  beautiful
• 29:19
  thing
• 29:20
  Dwarves
• 29:20
  have
• 29:20
  ever
• 29:21
  done.
• 29:21
  Gimli
• 29:21
  brings
• 29:22
  back
• 29:22
  some
• 29:22
  Dwarves.
• 29:23
  They
• 29:23
  like
• 29:24
  turn
• 29:24
  this
• 29:24
  there
• 29:25
  you
• 29:25
  just
• 29:26
  had.
• 29:26
  This
• 29:26
  is
• 29:26
  how
• 29:26
  one
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  coolest
• 29:27
  things
• 29:27
  about
• 29:28
  dwarfs,
• 29:28
  right,
• 29:28
  like
• 29:28
  this
• 29:29
  is
• 29:29
  a
• 29:29
  cave
• 29:30
  next
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  a
• 29:31
  castle,
• 29:32
  you
• 29:32
  know
• 29:33
  that
• 29:34
  Rohan
• 29:34
  has.
• 29:35
  And
• 29:36
  they
• 29:36
  just
• 29:37
  had
• 29:37
  some
• 29:37
  giant
• 29:38
  battle
• 29:38
  up
• 29:38
  in
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  north
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  don't
• 29:39
  know
• 29:39
  about
• 29:39
  till
• 29:40
  you
• 29:40
  read.
• 29:40
  He's
• 29:40
  like,
• 29:40
  this
• 29:40
  has
• 29:41
  got
• 29:41
  potential.
• 29:42
  We
• 29:42
  got
• 29:42
  potential.
• 29:42
  Yeah.
• 29:43
  This
• 29:43
  is
• 29:43
  what
• 29:43
  Dwarves
• 29:44
  like.
• 29:45
  He
• 29:45
  like
• 29:45
  goes
• 29:45
  to
• 29:46
  dwarfs.
• 29:46
  Like
• 29:46
  half
• 29:46
  of
• 29:47
  them
• 29:47
  are
• 29:47
  dead.
• 29:47
  They
• 29:47
  just
• 29:47
  were
• 29:48
  fighting
• 29:48
  off
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  Easterlings
• 29:49
  in
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  north
• 29:50
  for
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  whole
• 29:50
  thing
• 29:50
  to
• 29:51
  go
• 29:51
  down.
• 29:51
  He's
• 29:51
  like,
• 29:51
  guys,
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  Won't
• 29:52
  believe
• 29:53
  this.
• 29:53
  I
• 29:53
  was
• 29:53
  at
• 29:54
  home
• 29:54
  steep.
• 29:54
  I
• 29:55
  got
• 29:55
  cornered
• 29:55
  in
• 29:55
  this
• 29:55
  cave
• 29:56
  and
• 29:56
  this
• 29:56
  junk
• 29:57
  is
• 29:57
  glittering
• 29:57
  af.
• 29:59
  And
• 29:59
  I
• 30:00
  just
• 30:00
  like.
• 30:01
  And
• 30:01
  they're
• 30:01
  like
• 30:02
  what
• 30:02
  do
• 30:02
  you
• 30:02
  mean
• 30:02
  glittering?
• 30:03
  Like
• 30:03
  you
• 30:03
  mean
• 30:03
  they
• 30:04
  haven't
• 30:04
  done
• 30:04
  anything
• 30:04
  to
• 30:05
  it?
• 30:05
  And
• 30:05
  he's
• 30:05
  like
• 30:05
  no,
• 30:06
  it's
• 30:06
  just
• 30:06
  giant
• 30:07
  caverns.
• 30:08
  It
• 30:08
  is
• 30:09
  beautiful.
• 30:09
  And
• 30:10
  these
• 30:10
  humans
• 30:10
  have
• 30:10
  just
• 30:11
  been
• 30:11
  sitting
• 30:11
  next
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  cave
• 30:13
  with
• 30:13
  all
• 30:13
  this
• 30:14
  potential.
• 30:15
  And
• 30:15
  then
• 30:16
  Gimli's
• 30:16
  like
• 30:16
  man,
• 30:17
  we
• 30:17
  got
• 30:17
  to
• 30:17
  call.
• 30:18
  We
• 30:18
  got
• 30:18
  to
• 30:19
  call
• 30:19
  like,
• 30:19
  like
• 30:20
  the
• 30:20
  home
• 30:20
  network
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  get
• 30:21
  a
• 30:22
  reality
• 30:22
  TV
• 30:23
  show
• 30:23
  up
• 30:23
  here
• 30:23
  in
• 30:24
  Middle
• 30:24
  Earth
• 30:24
  because
• 30:25
  we're
• 30:25
  going
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  redo
• 30:26
  this
• 30:26
  cave.
• 30:26
  And
• 30:26
  then
• 30:26
  there's
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  whole
• 30:28
  multiple
• 30:28
  seasons
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  them
• 30:29
  redoing
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  glittering
• 30:30
  caves.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:31
  it
• 30:31
  becomes,
• 30:32
  you
• 30:32
  know,
• 30:32
  it's,
• 30:33
  it's
• 30:34
  like
• 30:34
  vacation
• 30:35
  galore
• 30:36
  for
• 30:36
  dwarves.
• 30:37
  They
• 30:37
  come
• 30:37
  in
• 30:38
  and
• 30:38
  they're
• 30:38
  like
• 30:38
  clearly
• 30:39
  I'm
• 30:39
  on
• 30:39
  vacation.
• 30:40
  There's
• 30:40
  probably,
• 30:41
  it's.
• 30:41
  It's
• 30:42
  probably
• 30:43
  it's
• 30:44
  one
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  those
• 30:44
  all
• 30:44
  inclusive
• 30:45
  dwarf
• 30:45
  resorts.
• 30:46
  They're
• 30:46
  like
• 30:46
  all
• 30:46
  the
• 30:47
  L's
• 30:47
  going
• 30:47
  on.
• 30:48
  Look
• 30:48
  at
• 30:48
  these
• 30:48
  caves.
• 30:49
  Just
• 30:49
  cave
• 30:49
  upon
• 30:50
  cave
• 30:50
  all
• 30:50
  crafted
• 30:51
  up
• 30:51
  as
• 30:52
  glitched
• 30:52
  out.
• 30:54
  Is
• 30:54
  it
• 30:54
  like
• 30:54
  a
• 30:54
  new
• 30:54
  resort?
• 30:55
  Like
• 30:55
  it's
• 30:55
  not
• 30:55
  even
• 30:56
  mithril.
• 30:56
  It's
• 30:56
  like
• 30:56
  a
• 30:57
  whole
• 30:57
  new
• 30:57
  resource.
• 30:57
  What
• 30:58
  if
• 30:58
  you
• 30:58
  discovered
• 30:58
  a
• 30:58
  new
• 30:59
  element
• 30:59
  that's
• 30:59
  even
• 30:59
  better
• 31:00
  than
• 31:00
  mithril
• 31:00
  like
• 31:01
  in
• 31:01
  that
• 31:01
  cave?
• 31:01
  That,
• 31:02
  that
• 31:02
  would
• 31:02
  be
• 31:02
  rad.
• 31:03
  Like
• 31:03
  just
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  whole
• 31:03
  nother
• 31:04
  new
• 31:05
  compound
• 31:06
  of,
• 31:06
  of
• 31:07
  or
• 31:07
  an
• 31:07
  element.
• 31:07
  That
• 31:08
  there.
• 31:09
  Element.
• 31:10
  Yeah,
• 31:10
  I.
• 31:12
  Yeah,
• 31:12
  yeah.
• 31:14
  And
• 31:14
  you
• 31:14
  have
• 31:14
  to
• 31:14
  zip
• 31:14
  line
• 31:15
  across.
• 31:15
  To
• 31:16
  get
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  it.
• 31:17
  Did
• 31:18
  you
• 31:18
  say
• 31:18
  Riz,
• 31:18
  dude?
• 31:19
  Rizzrel.
• 31:23
  It's
• 31:24
  like
• 31:24
  it's,
• 31:25
  it's
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  pretty
• 31:26
  mithril.
• 31:28
  This
• 31:28
  mythos
• 31:28
  got.
• 31:28
  Riz.
• 31:29
  We're
• 31:29
  gonna
• 31:29
  call
• 31:29
  it
• 31:30
  Rizz
• 31:30
  Roll.
• 31:31
  But,
• 31:32
  but
• 31:32
  like,
• 31:33
  but
• 31:33
  I
• 31:33
  just
• 31:33
  think
• 31:34
  it
• 31:34
  would
• 31:34
  be
• 31:34
  cool
• 31:34
  to
• 31:34
  go
• 31:35
  one.
• 31:35
  Because
• 31:36
  like
• 31:38
  what,
• 31:38
  what
• 31:39
  dwarf
• 31:39
  do
• 31:40
  we
• 31:40
  have
• 31:40
  any
• 31:40
  attachment
• 31:41
  to
• 31:41
  more
• 31:41
  than
• 31:42
  Gimli?
• 31:43
  2.
• 31:44
  It's
• 31:44
  like
• 31:44
  the
• 31:45
  fruit
• 31:45
  of
• 31:46
  Gimli.
• 31:46
  Humans.
• 31:47
  Like
• 31:47
  the
• 31:48
  dwarves.
• 31:48
  Humans
• 31:48
  and
• 31:49
  elves.
• 31:49
  Friendship.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:50
  it's
• 31:50
  like
• 31:51
  what
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  dwarves
• 31:52
  poured
• 31:52
  their
• 31:53
  gifts
• 31:54
  that
• 31:54
  they
• 31:54
  bring
• 31:54
  to
• 31:55
  Middle
• 31:55
  Earth
• 31:55
  into
• 31:56
  after
• 31:57
  the
• 31:58
  destruction
• 31:58
  of
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  ring.
• 31:59
  Like
• 32:00
  you
• 32:01
  know,
• 32:01
  if
• 32:01
  you
• 32:01
  go
• 32:01
  there
• 32:02
  one
• 32:03
  pretty
• 32:03
  it's
• 32:04
  going
• 32:04
  to
• 32:04
  be
• 32:04
  fun.
• 32:04
  Dwarves
• 32:05
  know
• 32:05
  how
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  party.
• 32:06
  And
• 32:07
  who
• 32:07
  do
• 32:07
  you
• 32:07
  want
• 32:07
  to
• 32:08
  hear
• 32:08
  cool
• 32:08
  ass
• 32:08
  stories
• 32:09
  from
• 32:09
  more
• 32:09
  than
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  bunch
• 32:10
  of
• 32:10
  dwarves
• 32:10
  when
• 32:11
  they're
• 32:11
  on
• 32:11
  vacation?
• 32:12
  This
• 32:12
  is
• 32:12
  where
• 32:13
  they're
• 32:13
  going
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  go.
• 32:14
  They're
• 32:14
  going
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  go
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  glittering
• 32:15
  caves
• 32:15
  and
• 32:15
  you're
• 32:15
  going
• 32:16
  to.
• 32:16
  Let's
• 32:16
  do
• 32:17
  this.
• 32:18
  I
• 32:18
  just.
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  feel
• 32:19
  like
• 32:19
  it's
• 32:19
  a
• 32:19
  high
• 32:20
  quality
• 32:20
  pool.
• 32:21
  That's
• 32:21
  it.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:22
  they're
• 32:23
  going
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  make
• 32:23
  some,
• 32:23
  some
• 32:24
  Rizz
• 32:25
  Rizz
• 32:25
  Roll.
• 32:25
  Yeah.
• 32:26
  They're
• 32:26
  gonna
• 32:26
  get.
• 32:29
  You
• 32:29
  put
• 32:29
  it
• 32:29
  on.
• 32:30
  It's
• 32:30
  it.
• 32:32
  The
• 32:32
  Dwarves.
• 32:32
  It's
• 32:33
  like
• 32:33
  one
• 32:33
  big
• 32:34
  disco
• 32:34
  ball.
• 32:34
  Like,
• 32:34
  they
• 32:35
  put
• 32:35
  it
• 32:35
  on
• 32:35
  and
• 32:35
  you're
• 32:36
  like
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  walking
• 32:36
  disco
• 32:37
  ball.
• 32:37
  Like
• 32:37
  a.
• 32:37
  Like
• 32:38
  a
• 32:38
  mirror
• 32:38
  ball.
• 32:38
  You're
• 32:39
  gonna
• 32:39
  be
• 32:39
  walking
• 32:39
  around.
• 32:39
  I
• 32:40
  love
• 32:40
  that.
• 32:40
  Nick,
• 32:41
  is
• 32:41
  there
• 32:41
  another
• 32:41
  option
• 32:41
  there?
• 32:42
  You
• 32:42
  won.
• 32:42
  Is
• 32:43
  there
• 32:43
  another
• 32:43
  option
• 32:43
  out
• 32:44
  there
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  we
• 32:44
  could
• 32:44
  go,
• 32:44
  what?
• 32:47
  You
• 32:47
  put
• 32:47
  on
• 32:47
  the
• 32:48
  Ris
• 32:48
  Roll
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  all
• 32:48
  of
• 32:49
  a
• 32:49
  sudden
• 32:49
  their
• 32:49
  BMI
• 32:50
  drops.
• 32:52
  It's
• 32:53
  like
• 32:53
  Luca.
• 32:53
  In
• 32:53
  the
• 32:53
  off
• 32:54
  season,
• 32:54
  they
• 32:54
  came
• 32:55
  back
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  skinny
• 32:56
  Luca.
• 32:56
  All
• 32:56
  of
• 32:57
  a
• 32:57
  sudden,
• 32:57
  this
• 32:57
  skinny
• 32:57
  Gimli.
• 32:58
  They're
• 32:59
  like,
• 33:00
  homeboy
• 33:00
  must
• 33:00
  have
• 33:00
  been
• 33:01
  on
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  keto.
• 33:04
  He's
• 33:04
  like,
• 33:04
  no,
• 33:04
  it's
• 33:05
  that
• 33:05
  Rizz
• 33:05
  rule.
• 33:06
  It's
• 33:06
  that
• 33:06
  Rizz
• 33:07
  Roll,
• 33:07
  dude.
• 33:07
  All
• 33:08
  I
• 33:08
  can
• 33:08
  think
• 33:08
  of
• 33:08
  is
• 33:09
  Fat
• 33:09
  Mac
• 33:09
  and
• 33:10
  Ripped
• 33:10
  Mac
• 33:11
  from
• 33:11
  freaking.
• 33:11
  It's
• 33:12
  always
• 33:12
  sunny
• 33:12
  in
• 33:12
  Philadelphia.
• 33:13
  Yeah.
• 33:15
  Fatty
• 33:16
  Bulger
• 33:16
  came
• 33:16
  over
• 33:17
  there
• 33:17
  with
• 33:18
  Marion
• 33:19
  Pippen.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:20
  now
• 33:20
  no
• 33:21
  one
• 33:21
  knows
• 33:21
  why
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:22
  his
• 33:22
  nickname.
• 33:23
  They're
• 33:23
  like,
• 33:24
  what
• 33:24
  happened?
• 33:24
  He's
• 33:24
  like,
• 33:25
  no,
• 33:26
  Mary
• 33:27
  Pippin
• 33:27
  got
• 33:27
  tall
• 33:28
  with
• 33:28
  that
• 33:28
  it
• 33:28
  wash.
• 33:29
  But
• 33:29
  Fatty,
• 33:30
  though,
• 33:30
  he's
• 33:31
  got
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  red
• 33:31
  glittering
• 33:32
  claves.
• 33:32
  He's
• 33:33
  got
• 33:33
  that
• 33:33
  Rizzeral.
• 33:36
  I
• 33:37
  love
• 33:37
  that
• 33:37
  we
• 33:37
  invented
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  new
• 33:39
  element.
• 33:40
  Lord
• 33:40
  of
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  Rings.
• 33:41
  Please
• 33:41
  write
• 33:41
  a
• 33:41
  paper
• 33:42
  on
• 33:42
  that,
• 33:42
  Nick.
• 33:42
  And
• 33:43
  in
• 33:43
  present.
• 33:43
  Yeah,
• 33:43
  I'll
• 33:43
  write
• 33:44
  a
• 33:44
  paper
• 33:44
  on
• 33:44
  Rizz
• 33:44
  Roll.
• 33:45
  I'll
• 33:45
  send
• 33:45
  it
• 33:45
  to
• 33:45
  there.
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  have
• 33:46
  friends
• 33:46
  who
• 33:46
  write
• 33:47
  Tolkien
• 33:47
  fan
• 33:48
  fiction.
• 33:48
  I'm
• 33:48
  gonna
• 33:48
  give
• 33:48
  that.
• 33:49
  I
• 33:49
  need
• 33:49
  that.
• 33:49
  Write
• 33:49
  us
• 33:50
  in
• 33:50
  fan
• 33:50
  fiction.
• 33:50
  I
• 33:51
  need
• 33:51
  that.
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  need
• 33:52
  that
• 33:52
  story.
• 33:52
  Well,
• 33:52
  are
• 33:52
  there
• 33:53
  other
• 33:53
  options?
• 33:53
  I'm
• 33:54
  pretty
• 33:54
  convinced
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  glittering
• 33:55
  caves.
• 33:55
  Because
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  want
• 33:56
  some
• 33:56
  Riz.
• 33:58
  But,
• 33:59
  Nick,
• 33:59
  what
• 34:00
  else
• 34:00
  is
• 34:00
  there?
• 34:01
  Make
• 34:02
  you
• 34:02
  put
• 34:02
  it
• 34:03
  on.
• 34:03
  And
• 34:03
  all
• 34:03
  of
• 34:03
  a
• 34:03
  sudden
• 34:04
  you
• 34:05
  just
• 34:05
  start
• 34:05
  saying
• 34:05
  it's
• 34:06
  Doran's
• 34:06
  ban.
• 34:20
  Oh,
• 34:20
  my
• 34:21
  God,
• 34:21
  dude.
• 34:22
  Not.
• 34:22
  It's
• 34:22
  Darren's
• 34:23
  Bane.
• 34:24
  Oh,
• 34:24
  so
• 34:24
  good.
• 34:25
  Ah,
• 34:26
  so
• 34:26
  good.
• 34:27
  I.
• 34:27
  We.
• 34:28
  We
• 34:28
  could
• 34:28
  live
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  there,
• 34:28
  Nick.
• 34:29
  Unless
• 34:29
  you
• 34:29
  got
• 34:29
  another
• 34:29
  something
• 34:30
  else
• 34:30
  there.
• 34:30
  That's
• 34:31
  pretty
• 34:31
  good,
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  think.
• 34:31
  I
• 34:32
  think
• 34:32
  all
• 34:32
  of
• 34:32
  Trip's
• 34:33
  arguments
• 34:33
  about,
• 34:34
  like,
• 34:34
  the
• 34:35
  personal
• 34:35
  connection,
• 34:36
  like,
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  only
• 34:36
  place
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  we
• 34:37
  hear
• 34:37
  a
• 34:37
  Dwarf,
• 34:38
  like,
• 34:38
  besides
• 34:39
  Kaza
• 34:39
  Doom,
• 34:40
  because
• 34:40
  of
• 34:40
  Tomb
• 34:41
  is.
• 34:41
  Is
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  shell
• 34:41
  of
• 34:42
  what
• 34:42
  it
• 34:42
  used
• 34:42
  to
• 34:42
  be.
• 34:43
  But
• 34:43
  when
• 34:43
  it's
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  fresh
• 34:44
  glittering
• 34:45
  caves
• 34:45
  where
• 34:45
  Gimli's
• 34:46
  like,
• 34:46
  this
• 34:46
  is
• 34:46
  the
• 34:47
  most
• 34:47
  beautiful
• 34:47
  thing
• 34:48
  I've
• 34:48
  ever
• 34:48
  seen.
• 34:48
  And
• 34:48
  even
• 34:49
  Legolas
• 34:49
  is
• 34:49
  like,
• 34:50
  who
• 34:50
  thinks
• 34:50
  Dwarves
• 34:51
  speaking
• 34:52
  is,
• 34:52
  like,
• 34:53
  not
• 34:53
  enjoyable.
• 34:54
  He's
• 34:55
  like,
• 34:55
  oh,
• 34:55
  my
• 34:55
  God,
• 34:55
  Gimli,
• 34:56
  you've
• 34:56
  moved
• 34:57
  me.
• 34:57
  Like,
• 34:57
  I've
• 34:58
  never
• 34:58
  heard
• 34:58
  you
• 34:58
  talk
• 34:58
  like
• 34:58
  this
• 34:59
  before.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:00
  when
• 35:00
  they
• 35:00
  make
• 35:00
  that
• 35:01
  deal,
• 35:01
  Legolas
• 35:02
  is
• 35:02
  like,
• 35:02
  absolutely.
• 35:03
  Like,
• 35:03
  I
• 35:04
  will
• 35:04
  absolutely
• 35:04
  come
• 35:04
  here
• 35:05
  with
• 35:05
  you.
• 35:05
  And
• 35:06
  so
• 35:06
  when
• 35:06
  an
• 35:06
  elf
• 35:07
  is
• 35:07
  willing
• 35:08
  to
• 35:08
  be
• 35:08
  like,
• 35:08
  when
• 35:09
  a
• 35:09
  dwarf
• 35:09
  says,
• 35:09
  this
• 35:09
  is
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  most
• 35:10
  beautiful
• 35:10
  thing
• 35:10
  I've
• 35:10
  ever
• 35:11
  seen,
• 35:11
  and
• 35:11
  an
• 35:11
  elf
• 35:12
  is
• 35:12
  like,
• 35:12
  yeah,
• 35:12
  I
• 35:12
  believe
• 35:13
  you.
• 35:13
  We'll
• 35:13
  hang
• 35:13
  out
• 35:13
  here.
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  mean,
• 35:14
  where
• 35:15
  else
• 35:15
  are
• 35:15
  you
• 35:15
  going
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  go,
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  know,
• 35:18
  Riz,
• 35:19
  Roll
• 35:19
  Endurance
• 35:20
  Bane.
• 35:22
  And
• 35:22
  I
• 35:23
  want
• 35:23
  a
• 35:23
  Theology
• 35:23
  Beer
• 35:24
  camp
• 35:24
  shirt
• 35:24
  that
• 35:24
  says
• 35:24
  meet
• 35:25
  me
• 35:25
  in
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  glittering
• 35:25
  caves
• 35:26
  is
• 35:27
  what
• 35:27
  I
• 35:27
  want.
• 35:27
  I
• 35:28
  want
• 35:28
  that
• 35:28
  shirt.
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  want
• 35:29
  that
• 35:29
  shirt
• 35:30
  with
• 35:30
  a
• 35:30
  big
• 35:30
  mirror
• 35:30
  ball
• 35:31
  kind
• 35:31
  of
• 35:31
  turning,
• 35:31
  you
• 35:32
  know,
• 35:34
  with
• 35:34
  some
• 35:34
  Riz.
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  love
• 35:35
  that.
• 35:36
  That
• 35:37
  is
• 35:37
  really
• 35:38
  good
• 35:39
  friends,
• 35:40
  fellows,
• 35:40
  fellow
• 35:41
  systematic
• 35:41
  ecologists
• 35:42
  out
• 35:42
  there
• 35:43
  who
• 35:43
  listen
• 35:43
  to
• 35:43
  this.
• 35:43
  If
• 35:44
  you're
• 35:44
  like,
• 35:44
  totally
• 35:45
  lost,
• 35:45
  you're
• 35:45
  just.
• 35:45
  You're
• 35:46
  just
• 35:46
  here
• 35:46
  to
• 35:46
  hang
• 35:46
  with
• 35:46
  us
• 35:46
  and
• 35:47
  laugh
• 35:47
  with
• 35:47
  us,
• 35:47
  that.
• 35:48
  That's
• 35:48
  great.
• 35:48
  But
• 35:48
  you.
• 35:49
  You
• 35:49
  can
• 35:49
  go
• 35:49
  deeper
• 35:50
  in
• 35:50
  all
• 35:50
  these
• 35:50
  things
• 35:51
  when
• 35:51
  it
• 35:51
  comes
• 35:51
  to
• 35:52
  joining
• 35:53
  the
• 35:53
  Tolkien
• 35:53
  heads
• 35:53
  and,
• 35:53
  and
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  work
• 35:54
  that
• 35:54
  they've
• 35:54
  done
• 35:54
  or
• 35:55
  talking
• 35:55
  pop
• 35:55
  with.
• 35:56
  With
• 35:56
  Nick
• 35:56
  and
• 35:57
  his
• 35:58
  substack
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  what's
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  name
• 35:59
  of
• 35:59
  your
• 35:59
  book
• 35:59
  that
• 35:59
  you
• 35:59
  put
• 35:59
  out
• 35:59
  is
• 36:00
  Talking
• 36:00
  in
• 36:00
  Pop
• 36:01
  Culture?
• 36:01
  Is
• 36:01
  that.
• 36:01
  That.
• 36:02
  That's
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  one.
• 36:03
  That's
• 36:03
  it.
• 36:03
  One.
• 36:04
  You
• 36:04
  can.
• 36:04
  You
• 36:04
  can
• 36:04
  find
• 36:04
  that
• 36:05
  out
• 36:05
  there.
• 36:05
  And
• 36:06
  Tripp
• 36:06
  has
• 36:07
  many
• 36:07
  conversations,
• 36:09
  you
• 36:09
  know,
• 36:10
  on
• 36:11
  with,
• 36:11
  with
• 36:11
  Tolkien
• 36:12
  and
• 36:12
  Rings
• 36:12
  of
• 36:12
  Power,
• 36:12
  and
• 36:13
  they'll.
• 36:13
  We
• 36:14
  invite
• 36:14
  you
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  come
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  theology
• 36:15
  beer
• 36:15
  camp,
• 36:15
  and
• 36:15
  they'll
• 36:15
  probably
• 36:15
  be
• 36:16
  a.
• 36:16
  A
• 36:17
  Tolkien
• 36:17
  panel.
• 36:17
  We'll
• 36:18
  go.
• 36:18
  We'll
• 36:18
  go
• 36:18
  deep
• 36:18
  on
• 36:18
  this
• 36:19
  and,
• 36:19
  and
• 36:19
  you
• 36:19
  too
• 36:19
  can
• 36:20
  wear
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  shirt.
• 36:20
  This
• 36:21
  is
• 36:21
  Mimi
• 36:21
  and
• 36:21
  the
• 36:22
  Glittering
• 36:22
  Caves.
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  can't
• 36:25
  wait
• 36:25
  to
• 36:25
  make
• 36:25
  that
• 36:25
  shirt.
• 36:26
  Taylor.
• 36:26
  Right
• 36:26
  now.
• 36:27
  That's
• 36:27
  right.
• 36:27
  Oh,
• 36:28
  Taylor,
• 36:28
  I'm
• 36:28
  making
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  note.
• 36:29
  Yes,
• 36:29
  dude.
• 36:30
  Taylor,
• 36:30
  please
• 36:31
  make
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  shirt
• 36:34
  super
• 36:34
  fun.
• 36:35
  And,
• 36:35
  and
• 36:35
  part
• 36:35
  of
• 36:35
  this
• 36:35
  was
• 36:36
  a.
• 36:36
  Was
• 36:36
  a
• 36:36
  bonus
• 36:36
  episode
• 36:37
  just,
• 36:37
  just
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  kind
• 36:37
  of
• 36:38
  lure
• 36:38
  you
• 36:39
  over
• 36:39
  to.
• 36:39
  To
• 36:40
  our
• 36:40
  Fourth
• 36:40
  Wall
• 36:41
  site
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  our.
• 36:41
  In
• 36:42
  our
• 36:42
  website
• 36:43
  to
• 36:43
  listen
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  how
• 36:44
  we
• 36:45
  talked
• 36:45
  about
• 36:45
  the
• 36:45
  face
• 36:45
  behind
• 36:45
  us
• 36:46
  with
• 36:46
  Durin.
• 36:46
  And
• 36:47
  we.
• 36:48
  We
• 36:48
  love
• 36:48
  this.
• 36:48
  We
• 36:48
  kick
• 36:48
  out
• 36:49
  on
• 36:49
  Tolkien
• 36:49
  and
• 36:49
  there's
• 36:50
  more
• 36:50
  to
• 36:50
  do.
• 36:51
  And
• 36:51
  we're
• 36:51
  going
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  keep
• 36:52
  reading,
• 36:52
  we're
• 36:52
  going
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  keep
• 36:53
  talking,
• 36:53
  we're
• 36:53
  going
• 36:53
  to
• 36:53
  keep
• 36:54
  expanding
• 36:55
  upon
• 36:57
  this
• 36:57
  fandom
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  we
• 36:58
  love
• 36:59
  so
• 36:59
  much
• 36:59
  and
• 36:59
  so
• 37:00
  Trip.
• 37:00
  Nick,
• 37:01
  man,
• 37:02
  thanks
• 37:02
  for
• 37:02
  hanging
• 37:02
  out.
• 37:03
  And
• 37:05
  until
• 37:05
  next
• 37:05
  time,
• 37:06
  y',
• 37:06
  all,.
• 37:08
  The
• 37:08
  risen
• 37:09
  me
• 37:11
  is
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  risen
• 37:12
  you
• 37:12
  sees.
• 37:13
  The
• 37:13
  wrist
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  respects
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  Riz.
• 37:15
  Yeah.
• 37:15
  Duran
• 37:15
  is
• 37:16
  the
• 37:16
  OG
• 37:16
  Rizzler.
• 37:17
  That's
• 37:18
  right,
• 37:18
  the
• 37:18
  Rizzler.
• 37:19
  Peace,
• 37:19
  y'.
• 37:20
  All.