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Chemtrails Explained Fact vs Fiction · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: Geoengineering. It's a term many people have heard in passing,
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Speaker 1: but few truly understand what does it actually mean and
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Speaker 1: why is it now tied to questions about our skies,
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Speaker 1: our environment, our health, and even the rise and mysterious
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Speaker 1: illness affecting millions. Geoengineering has jumped from fringe theory to
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Speaker 1: statehouse debates. How did we get here and what does
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Speaker 1: it mean for American families? Today's guests are here to
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Speaker 1: talk about all of this and more right now, Hello everybody,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Life TV Now, where we unpack all
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Speaker 1: matters of truth, faith and freedom. I'm your host, Joe
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Speaker 1: artist Horn, and let me tell you something. Today's program,
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Speaker 1: I promise is going to absolutely boggle your mind. Let
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Speaker 1: me introduce who's here. She's an integrative nutrition health coach
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Speaker 1: with a Master of Science and health Education. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: My co host, Jamie Woodle and today's guest founded the
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Speaker 1: advocacy group Missouri Clean Skies just seven short months ago
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Speaker 1: and already has a media following of one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty thousand people in climbing, with videos reaching nearly twenty
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Speaker 1: two million views. He's also actively working on legislation for
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Speaker 1: the Senate and House, and the state of Missouri, as
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Speaker 1: well as working at the federal level to stop geo
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Speaker 1: engineering and pollution from the aviation industry. His efforts aim
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Speaker 1: to build a model that can be implemented across all
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Speaker 1: fifty states, driving a nationwide movement for cleaner skies. Please
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Speaker 1: welcome Michael Hogan. Michael, our family loves you and your wife,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to save this right here at the onset.
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Speaker 1: You are a personal hero to me with what you're doing,
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Speaker 1: not just here in the state of Missouri to help
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Speaker 1: clean up the skies, but bring the conversation of geo
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Speaker 1: engineering to public view across all fifty states by saying,
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Speaker 1: look at what we're doing. This is a model that
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Speaker 1: can be duplicated everywhere. But before we dig into how
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Speaker 1: that all came about, when did you become first aware
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Speaker 1: of this word geo engineering?
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Speaker 2: What is it?
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Speaker 1: And what got you started?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so about a year and a half ago I
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Speaker 2: began to really notice. I was working outside on my
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Speaker 2: back porch on our property and noticed that, you know,
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Speaker 2: in the morning, I would see one trail and then
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Speaker 2: i'd see another. We're talking about trails from the planes, right,
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Speaker 2: And I would see something like what they used to
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Speaker 2: call contrails, okay, and these things would turn into clouds
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Speaker 2: and one would go the next one, and by noon
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Speaker 2: the whole sky was completely covered. And this wasn't happening
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Speaker 2: one day, it was multiple days. And I kind of
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Speaker 2: like the sunlight. I really really love sunlight. I love
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Speaker 2: being outdoors, and I just started to wonder, what is
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Speaker 2: going on. There's so many things since twenty twenty that
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Speaker 2: we've really had to open our eyes to and you know,
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Speaker 2: things are not what they seem, and so, you know,
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Speaker 2: we are a little bit suspicious perhaps now than we
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Speaker 2: used to be about things, and rightly so. And so
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Speaker 2: I began to do some research on this and found
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Speaker 2: a lot of things. I mean, anytime you google something,
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Speaker 2: and you're going to find lots of things good and bad, right,
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Speaker 2: But I'd never heard the word geo engineering at that
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Speaker 2: point in time. Obviously, weather modification has been something that's
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Speaker 2: been going on since forever. But that's the other thing,
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Speaker 2: is that our weather patterns, like you know, we've noticed that,
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Speaker 2: you know, they want to blame climate change, they as
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Speaker 2: in the globalists, and they want to blame climate change
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Speaker 2: on you know the fact that our weather is being changed,
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Speaker 2: and the vere storms that were having you know, baseball
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Speaker 2: sized hells normal these days, things like that, and I
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Speaker 2: just can't accept that because I don't I don't subscribe
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Speaker 2: to that theory that climate is changing in the way
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Speaker 2: that they want us to believe. And so that got
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Speaker 2: me really started, and I became extremely passionate about it.
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Speaker 2: I remember, uh, looking to my wife and saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do something about this. And this was about,
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Speaker 2: you know a few months later, and I'm going to
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Speaker 2: stop this in the state of Missouri, and I was
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Speaker 2: she was kind of like, okay. And as of today,
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Speaker 2: I had the legislation that I've co written has been
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Speaker 2: introduced in the House and in the Senate. That's amazing.
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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, you know, especially watching
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Speaker 1: this program for the first time, they may have had
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Speaker 1: this similar experience where they're sitting outside and this just
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Speaker 1: can't be right. Yeah, you're watching these airplanes, these long
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Speaker 1: trails of what you know, space dust, what even this?
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Speaker 1: Then they go online and they start reading about you know,
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Speaker 1: cloud seating conspiracies and words like geoengineering. Yeah, maybe they
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Speaker 1: feel overwhelmed or even skeptical. Even now as they're watching
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Speaker 1: the show. Okay, okay, this guy's very passionate about whatever
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Speaker 1: this geoengineering thing is, But what about the receipts? And
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Speaker 1: they're going to be completely misdirected. If they go online
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Speaker 1: and start doing a standard Google search, there's going to
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Speaker 1: be all kinds of stuff designed specifically. It becomes almost
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Speaker 1: an indecipherable web of just chaos and confusion. Can you
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Speaker 1: tell us, based on your research, what it is, what
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Speaker 1: it isn't And the average family that's just trying to
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Speaker 1: wrap their head around what this is. I mean, why
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Speaker 1: are we working to ban this in Missouri if it's
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Speaker 1: nothing right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's even going to legislators. It's a topic
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Speaker 2: that they're confused about and it is a confusing, a
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Speaker 2: very complicated topic. So we'll start with and there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of layers to this. We'll start with just the
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Speaker 2: word geoengineering. What is geoengineering? And by definition and this
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Speaker 2: was going back in the nineteen seventy seven by Italian
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Speaker 2: physicist Caesar Marichetti, and it's basically the large scale manipulation
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Speaker 2: of the Earth's environment to counteract the effects of climate change.
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Speaker 2: So it's literally connected to the word climate change.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: So that's the definition of it. And so there's geoengineering.
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Speaker 2: And when you say the word geo engineering, it means something.
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Speaker 2: It means solar radiation modification basically, and what does that mean.
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Speaker 2: It basically means that we're going to manage how much
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Speaker 2: solar radiation we get on Earth. In other words, they're
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Speaker 2: going to block out our sign That's exactly what they
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Speaker 2: mean by that. Now how are they going to do it?
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Speaker 2: And so the forms of doing it is basically it's
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Speaker 2: called stratospheric aerosol injections where they literally inject aerosols of metals,
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Speaker 2: toxins okay into our pollutants into our stratosphere to reflect
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Speaker 2: sunlight back in the outer space. This is no joke.
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Speaker 2: They have their hands on our thermostat and they want
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Speaker 2: to manage that. And so there's another form. So there's
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Speaker 2: three forms of stratosphic carosel injections. There's marine cloud brightening
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Speaker 2: and then there's serious cloud thinning. And so that those
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Speaker 2: three are solar radiation modification under the term geoengineering. Now
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Speaker 2: you mentioned something about cloud seating. That's not technically called geoengineering,
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Speaker 2: but what it is is weather modification and so when
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Speaker 2: we introduce our bills in the House and the Senate,
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Speaker 2: we include both. We say we're trying to stop geoengineering
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Speaker 2: all of the things I just mentioned, but also weather modification,
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Speaker 2: because there's other forms of weather modification for different purposes.
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Speaker 2: For example, cloud seating has been going on for decades
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Speaker 2: and decades, right, and it's something that even meteorologists love
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Speaker 2: and support. And so what that is is planes flying
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Speaker 2: at much lower altitudes into big cumulus clouds to inject
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Speaker 2: silver iodide to make those clouds produce rain. And these
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Speaker 2: are private companies that are hired by perhaps they're hired
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Speaker 2: by a farmer who says, I want I need more
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Speaker 2: rain over my crops, and so he might hire a
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Speaker 2: company to come in and do this. And so what
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Speaker 2: they're doing is altering our weather. And so playing god
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Speaker 2: really is what they're doing. And you want to talk
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Speaker 2: about weather, the changes in our weather is it's because
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Speaker 2: our weather is being manipulated. It's being changed by these people.
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Speaker 2: Then there's a third form that we have to be
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Speaker 2: aware of, and that's electromagnetic radiation. And the more and
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Speaker 2: more technology we get, a lot of people associate that
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Speaker 2: with harp. Some people have heard the word HARP, which
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Speaker 2: is HARP is called high Frequency act of a rural
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Speaker 2: research program in Alaska, And basically it's an ionospheric heater
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Speaker 2: and it heats the ionosphere. It even punches a hole
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Speaker 2: in the honosphere and temporarily to heat the ionosphere out
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Speaker 2: out of research. Now, a lot of the things that
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Speaker 2: they do, they use the word research to kind of
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Speaker 2: get away with it. Right, we're just researching. But I
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Speaker 2: don't know about you, but I think sending microwaves into
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Speaker 2: the iono sphere and blowing a hole in it not
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Speaker 2: good for us. Okay, it's going to manipulate weather patterns,
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Speaker 2: it's going to stall out hurricanes, it's going to move
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Speaker 2: hurricanes and perhaps stall them out over North Carolina in
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Speaker 2: places like that, you know. So they don't want to
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Speaker 2: take credit for that. Whenever those things happen, the clouds
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Speaker 2: theaters say well it's not really effective. Well then what
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Speaker 2: are you doing it for? When they do these things,
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Speaker 2: there has to be an effect, right, there's a cause
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Speaker 2: and effect for sure, and it's happening. We have to
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Speaker 2: stop this or else we're just not going to have
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Speaker 2: a future here. So that's what we're all about.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that I can test, and people like,
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Speaker 1: why are you on a program that focuses on christ
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Speaker 1: centered themes and family and truth, why are you talking
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Speaker 1: about geoengineering. Well, it's because God has given us life.
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Speaker 1: He has work for us to do. And there are
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Speaker 1: people like I can not eat your fast food if
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Speaker 1: I don't want to destroy my liver, I cannot eat
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Speaker 1: your yellow dye number seven, if I don't want to
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Speaker 1: destroy my thyroid. Whatever. Right, unless we fight this. Thing
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Speaker 1: I can't do is stop what lands from the sky
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Speaker 1: on my soil, in my children. Your body is a magnet.
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Speaker 1: It's picking up all kinds of toxicity. You see what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So absolutely, God has work for us to do.
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Speaker 1: We need to push back on this and get it
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Speaker 1: done because otherwise our bodies. This to me if you
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Speaker 1: want to know, and I'm fine if you want to
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Speaker 1: photoshop a screenshot of this episode with a giant tinfoil
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Speaker 1: hat on Joe Orn and call me a conspiracy theorist.
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Speaker 1: To me, this is the greatest existential threat that our
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Speaker 1: generation faces. And you can loop that on video forever.
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Speaker 1: I just said to me, geoengineering is the greatest existential
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Speaker 1: threat that we face as a generation Michael. For people
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Speaker 1: watching this though, and they're like, man, these guys are resonating,
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Speaker 1: But I still I would want some evidence of where
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Speaker 1: this has been documented? Are there documented cases of what
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Speaker 1: people are actually testing? And this landed and the soil.
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Speaker 1: I've watched podcasts recently with some doctors that were actually
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Speaker 1: going to invite to come on the program and talk
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Speaker 1: about it. Again. Here the metabolic effects of aluminum build
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Speaker 1: up inside of the cells of the body. Obviously aluminum.
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Speaker 1: Where is that coming from? Well, I would contest the
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Speaker 1: skies when you're talking about this. If somebody's out there thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 1: these guys are talking about science fiction, what other forms
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Speaker 1: of weather modification might exist? And where has this been documented?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we'd have to go back to who's
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Speaker 2: behind it. I think that would be the first thing
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Speaker 2: to do if you're going to look into history, where
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Speaker 2: did it begin? And really began long before we can
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Speaker 2: ever imagine it started back in nineteen sixty two and
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Speaker 2: probably before that. But with Linen Bane Johnson, who has
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Speaker 2: a famous video where he talks about he's at Texas
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Speaker 2: State University and he's talking about building a weather satellite,
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Speaker 2: you may have seen this video, and he says the
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Speaker 2: word one who controls the weather controls the world, and
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Speaker 2: the way he said it in such an nefarious way,
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Speaker 2: he meant that, and he actually authorized the use of
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Speaker 2: weather warfare in Vietnam's called Operation Popeye, and so that's
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Speaker 2: where it began. There's a couple of professors. Of course,
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Speaker 2: there's always a mad scientist behind it. But Roger Ravel
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty five he drafted a report that's discussed
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Speaker 2: the role of solar geoengineering to offset climate change back
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Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties, and then Thomas Schnelling back in
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, but most recently, if you want to look
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Speaker 2: at geoengineering, you're going to find the name doctor David Keith,
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Speaker 2: and he's a leading scientist behind solar geoengineering. He wrote
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Speaker 2: a book called The Case for Climate Engineering, and so
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Speaker 2: he proposes to put sulfur dioxide by the tons into
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Speaker 2: the stratosphere. He came on to he's been doing the
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Speaker 2: rounds on talk shows Believer or Not. He was actually
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Speaker 2: on the Stephen Colbert Show about ten years ago when
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Speaker 2: to say Wow, where he actually admits that yes, this
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Speaker 2: is going to cost tens of thousands of lives, So
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Speaker 2: people are going to die. He says that, like without flinching.
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Speaker 2: There's other videos film saying the same thing, and he says,
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Speaker 2: you know it's serious, really it is serious. And he says, well,
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Speaker 2: we're hoping that it'll save more lives than that. So
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Speaker 2: these people they're playing with our future. It's just a
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Speaker 2: globalist cabal type of mentality of elites. We understand things
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Speaker 2: from a biblical perspective. We have a biblical lens. We
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Speaker 2: understand He's in control, and we also understand that these
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Speaker 2: steps things are supposed to be happening in the latter days, right.
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Speaker 2: But you know, these people don't believe in God. They
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Speaker 2: think they are God and they're going to control things.
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Speaker 2: So another scientist is named Ken Caldera, and he works
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Speaker 2: directly for Bill Gates. And we've heard a lot of
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Speaker 2: Bill Gates, you know, coming out talking about solar geo engineering,
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Speaker 2: and so Ken Caldera is a senior scientist at Gates Ventures.
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Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of other scientists that are
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Speaker 2: behind this, but those are the two main ones that
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Speaker 2: we want to start with.
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Speaker 1: So, Michael, you're describing this cabal that's playing God to
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Speaker 1: assume that they know better than he does how to
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Speaker 1: manage our weather, to what save the human species from
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Speaker 1: the harmful rays of the sun.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When you say cabal, are you being generic for the government.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about globalist people that are beyond our government.
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Speaker 2: Now it includes our government, but because our government's when
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Speaker 2: they go to these elites and they go to the
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Speaker 2: Paris Climate Treaties, and they go to the World Economic
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Speaker 2: Forums and they meet on a global level, they have
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Speaker 2: global ideas you know that don't really and this whole
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Speaker 2: climate change agenda is powerful. You think that COVID lockdowns
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Speaker 2: was bad, wait till you see climate lockdowns. You know,
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Speaker 2: where they just lock you down for no good reason
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Speaker 2: other than to say, well, we're telling you that your
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Speaker 2: carbon footprint is too much today and you need to
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Speaker 2: stay home and not drive your car, for example.
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Speaker 1: And I would think, you know, ten years ago, people
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Speaker 1: would have said, Okay, that's it, lock him up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not so much now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we've seen overreach before, Ah, people are starting
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Speaker 1: to sober up to the idea that the people running
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Speaker 1: this puppet show are capable of. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: that was just a warm up to see what people
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Speaker 1: would tolerate you go ahead.
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Speaker 2: So is our government involved though, that's one of the
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Speaker 2: questions that a lot of people ask, and the answer
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Speaker 2: is absolutely yes. Has been since LBJ, but even recently
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Speaker 2: in the Biden White House in twenty twenty three, they
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Speaker 2: came up with the congressionally Mandated Research Plan for Solar
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Speaker 2: Radiation Modification. It's a report that you can actually pull
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Speaker 2: up on Biden White House dot Archives dot gov and
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Speaker 2: find that information there, and it even shows a picture
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Speaker 2: of the type of jets that they will use to
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Speaker 2: do this. Okay, And so another thing we saw the
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Speaker 2: acting director at the time, CIA Director John Brennan in
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen gave a speech to the Council on Foreign
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Speaker 2: Relations where he said he likes to see stratospheric aerosol
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Speaker 2: injection as an example of geoengineering technology that could help
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Speaker 2: reverse the warming effects of global climate change. And that's
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Speaker 2: a video you can pull up as well. And most recently,
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Speaker 2: now that we have the Trump administration in we have
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Speaker 2: a lot of hope. Right. Lee Zelden is the director
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Speaker 2: of the EPA, right, he actually came. He's been doing
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Speaker 2: his rounds as well, and he actually acknowledges that geoengineering
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Speaker 2: is real, and so he's responding because people are absolutely livid,
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Speaker 2: they're reaching out. That's why we have so many followers,
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Speaker 2: because people are very nervous about this. They want something
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Speaker 2: to be done. And so as a result of the outcry,
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Speaker 2: even got all the way up to President Trump where
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Speaker 2: he's saying, hey, Lee, talk to him about this. This
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Speaker 2: is the EPA, right, and he says yes, or geo
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Speaker 2: engineering is real, and he even says solar radiation modification.
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Speaker 2: He says stratospheric atrosol injection. And it's being funded by
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Speaker 2: the government. And now he's not saying it as though
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Speaker 2: he supports it. It's actually quite the opposite.
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Speaker 1: It's still an admission's motive.
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Speaker 2: Is he going to do anything about it? That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: And I could show you there's a list of fourteen
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Speaker 2: federal agencies. I won't go through them all, but who
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Speaker 2: are funded. So there's a there's a flow of millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars that is going through different agencies of course,
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Speaker 2: like the EPA, like NASA, like the Department of Agriculture,
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Speaker 2: Department of Defense, that are funded with this this climate
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Speaker 2: change agenda in mind.
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Speaker 3: Michael would love for you to go into kem trails. Now,
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Speaker 3: is this just aircraft turning on and off nozzles, Because
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Speaker 3: when I think kem trails, I picture jets up there
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Speaker 3: with these big nozzles and they're spraying things, but they're
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Speaker 3: hiding it from us and not telling us.
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Speaker 2: See, that's where we get the conspiracy theory tied, right,
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Speaker 2: And actually that's what got me into this in the
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Speaker 2: first place. And that's what most people, the very vast majority,
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Speaker 2: they're concerned about these trails in the sky. And so
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Speaker 2: that's what got me involved in us. Now is that
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Speaker 2: actually nozzle spraying flying over our properties. What I found
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Speaker 2: I started to do to my own research. Now I've
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Speaker 2: learned that you know, if you're looking to find it,
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Speaker 2: that's what they wanted you to believe. That's what certain
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Speaker 2: people want you to believe. But when I looked up,
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Speaker 2: I got my own flight tracker. Okay, very simple. Everybody
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Speaker 2: can get your own flight tracker. Some a lot of
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Speaker 2: them's free, and some of them you can pay for.
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Speaker 2: But simple, you can literally track every flight, including military flights,
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Speaker 2: over your property, no matter or wherever you are, in
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Speaker 2: real time. And so that's where I started to find out.
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, every trail that I tracked during that
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Speaker 2: time frame, which is a long time period. Okay, So
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Speaker 2: what I found is that these are not just unmarked planes.
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Speaker 2: They're not necessary. They're not military planes by and large.
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Speaker 2: They're actually commercial aircraft, passenger planes for the most part,
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Speaker 2: and all the major carriers. Okay, So are they spraying
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Speaker 2: with a nozzle? I think that's preposterous. I think it's
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Speaker 2: not even fathomable that they would do something like that.
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Speaker 2: So I had to do some research to find out
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Speaker 2: what is going on why, because there's something different these
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Speaker 2: days than there was when I was a kid. And
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Speaker 2: I don't care how many scientists or meteorologists will say
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Speaker 2: it's normal, it's just water vapor. That's not the case.
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Speaker 2: What we're seeing is something that is very concerning. So
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Speaker 2: what is it? Okay? So we have to go back
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Speaker 2: to why do we see these trails? Sometimes? Because the
19:41
Speaker 2: same planes are flying over your house every day, that
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Speaker 2: is the question of the day. So why do you
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Speaker 2: see them one day but the next day you don't? Okay?
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Speaker 2: Why would I always hear these pilots and meteorologists chime
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Speaker 2: in on our social media saying it's the conditions, it's
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Speaker 2: the conditions, and they say, if you not so nice
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Speaker 2: words to us, And so I started looking at that. Well,
20:02
Speaker 2: nobody would say, what are the conditions? Okay? So I
20:05
Speaker 2: found out So for decades, there's there's something called the
20:09
Speaker 2: schmid Appleman criteria, which is something that all the way
20:13
Speaker 2: back goes back from the military, who would track their
20:15
Speaker 2: own contrails. Okay, because if you're a military and you're
20:18
Speaker 2: flying over Iraq or wherever, you don't want a contrail,
20:22
Speaker 2: persistent contrail to basically lead to your location. So they
20:27
Speaker 2: they back then they would I mean from for decades
20:30
Speaker 2: they've been re routing their planes through different saturated regions
20:35
Speaker 2: in the in the sky to to make sure that
20:38
Speaker 2: they don't spray trails. Okay. So so there is such
20:42
Speaker 2: a thing as as conditions and that let me just
20:45
Speaker 2: say what it is. It's called i SSRs. Okay, so
20:48
Speaker 2: I supersaturated regions. So that's when you you either see
20:52
Speaker 2: them or you don't. Okay. So let's say today we
20:55
Speaker 2: see planes that are that are spraying. Okay, it looks
20:58
Speaker 2: like they're spraying. I say, its spray, but it's because
21:01
Speaker 2: if you look up the conditions, the conditions are exactly correct.
21:05
Speaker 2: At that altitude for contrails to be become reality. Basically,
21:12
Speaker 2: if so, here's the thing. Are these normal water vapor
21:16
Speaker 2: it's not because they didn't persist the way that they
21:20
Speaker 2: do now all over and completely turn into clouds, which
21:23
Speaker 2: was what they call cirrus clouds. The meteorolog just we'll
21:26
Speaker 2: call it serious. Clouds are man made, okay, and our
21:30
Speaker 2: skies are full of them. So what happens is when
21:33
Speaker 2: these planes, first of all the planes, if you go
21:36
Speaker 2: back to what happened in nineteen ninety six, they changed
21:40
Speaker 2: from from gasoline to kerosene, and kerosene's a little bit
21:46
Speaker 2: more like diesel fuel, and the EPA does not regulate
21:51
Speaker 2: as much. They don't regulate any sulfur output like they
21:54
Speaker 2: do diesel trucks. For example, Diesel trucks are required to
21:58
Speaker 2: have fifteen parts per million maximum and planes have zero
22:04
Speaker 2: regulations and their output is about three thousand parts per million. Wow.
22:09
Speaker 2: So the kerosene form of fuel, which JP eight is
22:13
Speaker 2: one that you're familiar with. When JP eight fuel was
22:16
Speaker 2: came out in the nineteen ninety six time, all NATO
22:20
Speaker 2: countries decided that they were going to go to this
22:23
Speaker 2: jpaight fuel for military plants. Okay, And I've got to
22:26
Speaker 2: charge here that shows how substantially increase the levels of
22:31
Speaker 2: metals are in those fuels. For example, you went from
22:34
Speaker 2: almost nothing to nine three hundred and sixty parts per
22:38
Speaker 2: million aluminum in the fuel. Okay. And then there's a
22:43
Speaker 2: list of all these other ones. So you got aluminum, barium,
22:45
Speaker 2: strong tum all these things that you hear about with
22:47
Speaker 2: stratosphere carasol injections, right, and major levels of sulfur dioxide
22:52
Speaker 2: or sulfuric acid. Okay, So we are seeing what we've
22:55
Speaker 2: seen is a market increase in major levels of pollution
23:00
Speaker 2: coming out of engine exhaust, major levels, like if they
23:04
Speaker 2: didn't even fly a plane for a week or for
23:07
Speaker 2: two years, it would still be up. There are basically
23:10
Speaker 2: these transportation byways in our troposphere, in our stratosphere are
23:14
Speaker 2: saturated with these metals. That's why when we get rain samples,
23:18
Speaker 2: we get aluminum in its rain samples. Okay. So what
23:21
Speaker 2: happens is for a vapor ok to come out of
23:25
Speaker 2: a plane and produce a cloud, it has to have
23:27
Speaker 2: a seed, Okay. It can't just turn into an ice
23:30
Speaker 2: crystal just because of the conditions. It has to seed
23:33
Speaker 2: onto something. And what it is is these nanoparticulates of aluminum, bariumstrothium, titanium,
23:41
Speaker 2: and major levels of sulfur dioxide because it's the sky
23:45
Speaker 2: is saturated, and that's especially if it's coming right out
23:47
Speaker 2: of the engine and they go through these ice supersaturated regions.
23:51
Speaker 2: That's the formula that creates chemtrails. Okay, Wow, they don't
23:57
Speaker 2: call them chemtrails. And if you say the word chemtrail,
23:59
Speaker 2: you get canceled in those areas. That is what's happening.
24:03
Speaker 2: Now you have a little bit of example or understanding
24:06
Speaker 2: of JP eight fuel I do.
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Speaker 3: That's right, Michael. When we were talking, I was in
24:09
Speaker 3: the military and I worked on aircraft and we often
24:12
Speaker 3: were exposed to JP eight. It was the fumes you're
24:15
Speaker 3: working in the bladder, the fuel cell, and we would
24:20
Speaker 3: have to get blood tests every year to check our
24:22
Speaker 3: heavy metals just in case we had too much exposure.
24:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that happened in nineteen ninety six, So look
24:30
Speaker 2: go back, that's about thirty years. So that's about the
24:32
Speaker 2: timeframe when we started seeing you know, it's increasingly getting
24:36
Speaker 2: worse and worse.
24:36
Speaker 1: Okay, Michael, with just a couple of minutes left on
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Speaker 1: the clock. One of the things we got to do
24:41
Speaker 1: or we would be remissed in this broadcast today is
24:45
Speaker 1: for the viewer out there that wants to Okay, this
24:46
Speaker 1: is something rather more than a conspiracy. I would like
24:49
Speaker 1: to get involved for one thing. That can visit your
24:51
Speaker 1: website to follow your model. And this doesn't care what
24:54
Speaker 1: state you're in. So why don't you share with people
24:57
Speaker 1: where you're doing this great work? How fast the explode
25:00
Speaker 1: growth by the way of Missouri Clean Skies. This group
25:03
Speaker 1: that you've put together is and I would say that
25:06
Speaker 1: the fast explosion in popularity is a side effect of
25:09
Speaker 1: the fact that people are talking about this and they
25:11
Speaker 1: are wanting to get engaged, but they're looking for leaders.
25:14
Speaker 1: It's a difficult tricky navigate, right, Absolutely, it's a difficult
25:19
Speaker 1: tricky navigate. And so that's why we have people like
25:22
Speaker 1: Michael Hogan. Where can people learn more? How do they
25:25
Speaker 1: get started?
25:25
Speaker 2: So we have a website mocleanskies dot org. Okay, we
25:29
Speaker 2: have a resources page and it is just cram packed
25:32
Speaker 2: full of good, good information. Truth. We're only concerned with truth.
25:36
Speaker 2: We don't want conspiracy theory. There are people on the
25:39
Speaker 2: side that say you're crazy, it's not you know, it's
25:42
Speaker 2: not fuel emissions. They won't admit to it, even though
25:45
Speaker 2: it's factual, and so we only want to follow that.
25:48
Speaker 2: I believe before that it was spraying out of nozzles
25:51
Speaker 2: as well. But when I changed over, I get a
25:53
Speaker 2: lot of people saying, you've sold out, you know who
25:56
Speaker 2: paid you off, things like that. But we just have
25:59
Speaker 2: to stick with the truth because we're never going to
26:01
Speaker 2: stop this if we don't. So what we're doing to
26:05
Speaker 2: stop geo engineering is we have We're working on the
26:08
Speaker 2: Senate and in the House to ban it the state
26:10
Speaker 2: of Missouri. We're also working to ban it in all
26:12
Speaker 2: fifty states. Okay, but we also have to go to
26:16
Speaker 2: the EBA and the FAA because they're the ones States
26:20
Speaker 2: cannot control what's going in the fuels, and states cannot
26:23
Speaker 2: control where the planes are flying through these saturated regions,
26:27
Speaker 2: and so we're going to go after that in order
26:30
Speaker 2: to stop the cam trails. That's the resource we need to.
26:33
Speaker 1: Go after, Ladies and gentlemen. I can tell you I
26:35
Speaker 1: know Michael Hogan, he's doing this sacrificially, had a great life,
26:39
Speaker 1: didn't need to take this thing on and start fighting it,
26:42
Speaker 1: and you spent a lot of time working on this,
26:45
Speaker 1: so we're so grateful for you. Unfortunately, we're all out
26:51
Speaker 1: of time, but we will be back next week with
26:54
Speaker 1: Senator Mike Moon right here in Missouri and again Michael
26:57
Speaker 1: Hogan to continue this conversation. God, he wants you well,
27:01
Speaker 1: he wants the sky's clean. He gave us a clean earth.
27:04
Speaker 1: We're ruining it and we need to do something about it.
27:07
Speaker 1: For everybody here in studio, everybody here on panmel Michael,
27:10
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here today. I'm Joe
27:12
Speaker 1: Artist Horn. Keep your eyes on the prize, which is
27:14
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: We'll be back