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Private Fields vs Public Spots — Respect, Competition, and Roasts · DuckFellas Podcast

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Welcome to the Duckfellas Podcast, your weekly dose of waterfowl wisdom,
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blind banter, and hunting stories that might just be mostly true,
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hosted by Tyler, Cade, and used to be Austin.
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Two fellas and one that used to be chasing feathers at good times.
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Hot start roasting austin right off the rip i love
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it man we got to while he's since he's
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skipping out on us like that unreal absolutely
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unreal you know some people just aren't cut out for it but maybe one day he'll
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make an appearance again it's turning back into a deer hunter we lost him definitely
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lost him i mean he's after that podcast we did thursday he's he's leaving in the chat. He's gone.
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Can't even defend himself.
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So, how was your guys' weekend of hunting?
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It wasn't terrible. Wednesday, got off work early enough to go out to the field.
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Shot a pretty easy limit of geese. No bands, surprisingly.
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I've seen that. We never did discuss that hunt that you guys went on.
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Wednesday was a banger Thursday sucked
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of course as soon as Austin leaves we shoot two bands so he's never invited
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again he was pretty tore up about that he's like I knew it was gonna happen
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he was pissed we only shot I think four but two bands nonetheless that's pretty
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good odds yeah yeah Friday I went to work,
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Saturday we shot nine,
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and one we shoot
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one or two we shot two bands on saturday yep
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yeah and then uh yeah
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sunday we shot six and got the hell out of there not a bad not a bad weekend
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you guys killed a few ducks on was it thursday or thursday we shot one two two
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thursday and then we shot two on saturday we didn't shoot Denny on Sunday.
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Not good. Saw, I couldn't even tell you how many ducks we saw.
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It was stupid, but they landed 500 yards down the river from us.
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That is so unfortunate when they do that.
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It's cool to watch, but it is so fucking aggravating.
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Yeah, especially when that's what you're really wanting to kill because it's
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kind of the last weekend for them, and then they just go and land a bend downriver.
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Yeah, and then, of course, we'll go shoot geese down there, and we won't be
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able to get away from the ducks.
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Yeah, no. Whenever it opens back up on the 20th, it'll probably be nonstop ducks
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in our face the whole time. Yep.
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Little bastards. Love it. Well, I mean, it still sounds a lot better than being
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stuck at work like I was, doing nothing half the time.
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And then Sunday night, when we were supposed to be recording this episode,
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I'm stuck out there till midnight Taking cable on and off of a crane That was terrible,
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Yeah, sitting on a sandbar on the river With my dog and a couple dudes Sounds
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way better than that Yeah,
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yeah I'm sure Hank much more enjoyed his days Than Ellie enjoyed her days at
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work Oh, absolutely Hank was pumped all weekend long,
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He even posed nice for the picture He did.
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He did it on Saturday too. Little bastard.
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So funny. I was cracking up whenever you posted that picture Sunday.
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He's always done that too. I've never been good about posting them,
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but they're freaking hilarious. He's done it since the day I got him.
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He goes out and fetches birds and he's, when I go to take a picture of him with
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the birds, he just sits in front of it like, yeah, bitch, you were in my mouth. He's just proud.
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I did that. You didn't do anything. I'll see you next time.
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Uh, well, I mean, like I said, at least you guys got on a few ducks before it
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ended. Could have been worse.
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Yeah, should have been a lot better, but definitely could have been worse.
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Yeah, it happens like that, though.
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Even to the best of the people out there, it happens. Yep.
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But this week We're going to talk about Private versus public hunting And then
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different hunting strategies For whether it's private and public Or field or
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water Should be Interesting,
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A lot of different takes on private hunting Than compared to public hunting
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People have I know a lot of guys that won't even touch public ground Because
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they're too high class for it,
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Not us I don't have enough land to hunt private ground all year we'd just be
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sitting there staring at seagulls flying by chasing a combine but chasing a
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tractor around a field all day,
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he'll go snacks,
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Oh, what's up, my friends? I've seen you on the lake a few times.
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So, I mean, we'll jump into private ground first, kind of just the challenge of it.
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I mean, like, for me, it's always fun going and talking to landowners and trying to get permission.
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Because sometimes you meet a landowner that just, it's like instantly they're
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your best friend. Like they've known you their whole life.
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But then there's the ones that, I mean, will run you off their property half the time too.
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So, like, The challenges of securing private ground in our area,
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especially because it's so heavily hunted and people have, I mean,
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known people for centuries, I've noticed it's really 50-50 on any ground,
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but it seems to be getting more and more difficult as more people get into the sport.
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That and i feel like another big part of that like we're always really good
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about it we don't drive in wet fields we don't tear anything up we pick up after
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ourselves as good as we can,
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but some of these people dude you go look at a field and you're like why would
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you even try to get in there there's freaking three foot ruts you can tell they
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got the truck stuck as soon as they pulled in the field that does not leave
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a good taste in a farmer's mouth no no that will that That all ruins it for
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everybody, for certain landowners.
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Sometimes they just say, no, I'm done with that. I ain't dealing with it no more.
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And that's a, I mean, that, I will say that has been the biggest killer for
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North Dakota since I've been hunting up there for 10, 12 years now or whatever it's been.
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I mean, from what it was 12, 13 years ago when I first went up there and hunted
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to what it is now is night and day.
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And that's, I mean, you're seeing that everywhere around the country,
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but obviously there's a lot more pressure than here.
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Yeah. And we've had like really odd winters around here too lately.
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I feel like it never really, I mean, this year it's supposed to get cold and
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it's going to warm back up.
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Typical Iowa bullshit. But we've had really warm winters with like rain, not even snow.
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So I feel like that's a little bit different from like a lot of places are,
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the fields are frozen enough that you can drive in them when they're wet.
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But we haven't had that here.
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No, last year was difficult too because either, like you said,
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it was warm and rainy and then you
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couldn't pattern the geese because it'd be warm and rainy for like two days and
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then maybe a day or two of cold and then they'd be on a
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different pattern and they'd revert back right away yeah so
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that that made it challenging last year hopefully this year we
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don't have that as bad but hopefully it
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warms up enough to make the water soft again and
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not hard and then of course last year we tried to
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pull the uno reverse card we were like oh it's going to warm back up they're
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going to go back to this field and then they picked a field like three fields
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over we were like shit yeah you'll have that on the big jobs i love hunting
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geese it's so much fun no it's not i mean it is but it's not oh there's such a pain in the ass,
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that's why sometimes i don't even chase the geese i just go south yep keep chasing ducks,
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at least i know what i'm getting with those geese just change it up on on the
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daily they do even with no weather change same wind same temperature they're
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just like nah we'll go this way today.
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I think I've seen their truck go by earlier. They're probably going to be over
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there. Let's go over here.
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But the, I mean, so the benefits of having private ground access for me is just
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if you're getting burnt out hunting the public ground,
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whether it's CRP or water, whatever it is, a marsh,
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it's so nice to be able to go to that private ground that you built a relationship with that landowner.
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And just, even if you don't kill a bunch or you don't kill anything,
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it's nice to get away and go out and chill and not have 20 or 30 parties or whatever around you.
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Yeah, it's always nice to get away and have that quiet day. It's just like,
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yeah, we're out here by ourselves. This is nice.
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Yeah, especially like on the weekends when you don't got, I mean,
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you're going to, you don't have no boats running around all day,
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every day, scouting or just people coming out hunting in the afternoon or people
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leaving early. You know, it's part of it. It's, it's hunting. Yep.
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Uh, the biggest thing for private ground for me has always been a long-term
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relationship with landowner.
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Once you start that relationship with them, like the first year you're hunting
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with them, try to like, I always try to try to go back out and talk to him throughout
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the year, but I'm so busy most of the time. I don't get the chance to do that.
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I get a few of them I can do it with, but not a lot. I think the coolest thing
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is, like, I've noticed it around here, like, since moving down here and hunting
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some fields around here.
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Almost every field that I have, if we're out hunting, the farmer will stop by.
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Yeah. We'll be pulling out, and he'll be sitting there waiting for us. How'd you guys do?
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It's awesome. I've got one landowner that I hunt on, but he lets,
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you know, pretty much anybody hunt his property.
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But every time I'm out there, if he drives by, and I'm at the truck by the road,
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he's definitely going to stop and say, well, did you kill all of them stupid geese?
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No, didn't kill all of them. Because if I did, the game ward would really be mad at me.
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But we will be back tomorrow. Yeah. We'll return.
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I mean, yeah, like I started with, don't be afraid to offer,
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like, going in the summertime if you got nothing going on and you're looking
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for something to do or you want to make sure you're going to have that same
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field or that same access the next year.
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Don't be afraid to go to his house or his farm and see if he needs help baling
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hay or working on something or however you can help out, whether it's just driving
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his pickup from field to field so he has his pickup there.
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Yep, that's huge. I mean, those guys put in a lot of hours in the spring and
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the fall between planting and harvesting.
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So anything that you can do to help out is huge for those guys.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm seeing them whenever they're, you got to be careful
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on the times you approach them. If they just look busy, you're probably just
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better off to keep on driving at certain times.
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I've been in that situation before where I was going to pull up and talk to
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one of my landowners, and I'm like, you know, I think I'm just going to go ahead
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and keep going this time because he's looking like he's ready to throw shit.
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I think I will take a rain check on this one.
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I mean, have you ever I don't know what all of you've done to kind of help secure
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permission for property or land from,
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landowners. It doesn't, it doesn't cost like to people an arm and a leg to do,
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you know, something that's easy that everyday guy can go and do.
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I like to get just like even a, like a $50 Casey's gift card or I mean,
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any little gift card like that.
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Obviously, like, I don't lease any fields, but I feel like that goes a long
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way, and I've never had a problem getting permission again from anybody that I've done that with.
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I mean, that guy, if he goes to Casey's every day, you're buying that guy's
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coffee every morning for a week or two, and he's happy as hell about it.
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They do love, most farmers do love their coffee in the morning.
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And especially Casey's coffee.
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Hopefully soon Quickstar. I know,
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I'm pumped for that. I wish it was going to be open when I came home.
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It looks like it's close it's gotta be
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i mean i think soft openings in less than
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a month what i've seen so that's i'm
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pumped for that but i mean yeah like i always try to offer them if like uh whenever
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i process all the ducks and geese from the year i always try to go back and
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offer them up a package of broads or two or three or some hot sticks or if they
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want any of it or even that day,
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you know, I always ask him, but whenever they give me permission or I tell him
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I'm going to be out there,
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maybe you want any of the birds, let me know. I'll give you whatever you want.
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Yeah. I've got one guy, I've got one guy every time we hunt geese,
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he's like, clean me up a bird and just bring me the breast. And I'm like,
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all right, we can do that.
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Yeah. Some of them farmers love them. Some of them will not even look at them.
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And no matter what they are. I think this guy cuts it up and he makes his own
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jerky out of it. And he just loves to, loves to do it.
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I've had to trick a few and tell them that the hot sticks are deer and not duck.
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And then they'll try and I'm like, oh, that's pretty good. I was like,
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well, good, because that was duck.
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Oh, what?
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Now it's nasty. Yeah. Throw that away. That's almost as bad as seagull.
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Jesus. Not saying they shot them. They may have just got caught up in the tractor.
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I suppose. I mean that's I've seen some dead seagulls in farm fields from getting
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caught up in implements before oh yeah that'd be a big puff of feathers,
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That would be so much fun, though, honestly.
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Can't kill them, but nothing says that you can't keep them from flying into
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them or walking into it. That is fair.
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No, we don't do anything illegal, Mr. Officer.
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I mean, the biggest thing with private ground, as always, whenever you're hunting
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someone else's land, remember, it's someone else's land.
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It's not yours, so treat it with as much respect as you would want someone to
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come in and treat your house. Take your trash with you.
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Don't destroy his field. If it's muddy, don't be lazy. Walk your stuff in there
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if you want to hunt it, or don't hunt it. Yeah, it's really not difficult.
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No. It's the easiest thing. I mean, it's a lot of work, don't get me wrong,
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but if you want to hunt it bad enough, there you go. That's your only option.
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Yeah. I mean, we all make mistakes. If I've made a mistake once or twice,
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I can't remember, I think I know for sure once that I went in a field and when
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it was too muddy, I routed it up, but I went straight to the guy's house and
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told him like, look, I'm sorry. I routed it up.
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I can do whatever you want me to do to fix it or help you or whatever to try
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and make sure that I could hunt
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it again and it didn't ruin it for me or everybody else that hunted it.
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I've had to do that one time also, and that was walking up to that guy's door.
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I'm like, oh, my God, he's going to chew my ass.
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It's like being a kid again and just know your parents are going to rip your
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ass a new one. Yep. No, I'm going to get a spanking.
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The thing is, though, if you go tell that guy that you messed his field up,
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he's going to be like, thanks for telling me. I'll take care of it. Don't worry about it.
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Yeah. Nine times out of ten, you might get that one guy that's like,
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yeah, don't ever come back here again.
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Lose my number. Yeah. But, yeah, like you said, you got a much better chance
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of being able to hunt it again if you just own up to it right away.
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If you do make, I mean, nobody's perfect. Mistakes happen. Yeah.
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I mean, shit, the time that I did it, it rained like five days prior.
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And as soon as we got like halfway into that field, I was like, shit.
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That was kind of how mine was. So it was cold and some snow melted the day before,
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but then it refroze that night, but it did not.
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Freeze hard enough. Like, I drove like the first hundred yards into the field.
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I was like, oh yeah, we're doing good. I didn't even leave in a dent.
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Got in the middle of that field. We left a huge dent. I had to,
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I actually had to drop the trailer and abandon the trailer.
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I had to leave it there. Come back and get it when it freezes.
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Yeah, I went back at like one o'clock in the morning the next day.
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I didn't even hunt. I was like, I hate it here.
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We're going home. Yeah, but, no, I owned up to it and I still hunt as ground today.
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Yeah. Another big thing with fields, especially, obviously, you see them all
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the time when you're driving around, like driving through the field,
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going to usually leave because you usually get there in the dark.
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But if you see a fricking rock, pick that sumbitch up.
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You tell that farmer like, hey, dude, I found like 10 rocks just driving through
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here. We grabbed them for you. So you don't have to worry about it.
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That dude's pumped because he's not replacing everything on his tiller.
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Yeah I don't gotta pick him up Cause my dog does that for me That is true That's
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why I keep her around And feed her kibble Just everybody get Nelly.
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It's way easier. She's currently just sprawled out like a whole sack of potatoes right now sleeping.
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Well, we'll just keep on trucking here. We'll move right into the public ground hunting.
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Here we go. That's the best. I mean, it's so much fun, honestly.
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So what are your thoughts on the day in and out challenges that come up while hunting public ground?
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The biggest one is obviously, I feel like everybody that hunts public deals
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with this, but it doesn't seem to matter how early you get there.
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You get your spot half hour before shooting time. Here comes a boat.
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You flash your light at him. He's floating right up into your hole.
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You flash your light at him.
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You don't give a shit. He goes up and sets 200 yards right behind you. I love that.
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That is the biggest problem with public waterfowl hunting.
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And all that is, is just respect. I mean, it comes down to respect.
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Nobody has that nowadays. Well, not nobody, but it's harder to find nowadays than it used to be.
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There was this one guy on opener on the lake.
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I wish I would have met him at the boat ramp when we went back.
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Cause this dude, dude, he did it right.
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I'm not even shit talking this guy for once. I'm not shit talking somebody.
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Oh, wow. I thought we were going a whole different route with this.
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No, this guy, he came up to our hole.
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We flashed him. I mean, this is legitimately a half an hour before shooting time.
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There's freaking people everywhere. The place is packed.
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He went to every single hole.
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Found everybody where they were at and he ended
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up going clear up the river and he went and found his
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own little spot he shot his ducks and he left hats off
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to the guy but i mean like we had we had a group that was probably i don't know
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800 yards behind us there was a really good spot that he could have gone right
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in between us he just kept right on going went and found a spot clear away from
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everybody and just had himself a little morning nothing wrong with that that never happens though.
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No, no, it's kind of a once in a, I wouldn't even say once a year thing,
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maybe once a year, five years type thing.
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It seems like every time I hunt public ground, well, I pretty much always hunt public ground.
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So pretty much every day that I hunt, people try to hunt as close as they possibly can.
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Oh, it's insane. It's like they have air tags on your boat. They're like,
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oh, he's hunting over here. Let's go mess with it.
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Well, they're not Apple ones because I have an iPhone and it does not tell me they're there.
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They just put some little Garmin GPS tracker on you then it's gotta be something
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either that or ellie sends out text one of the two i do they're like hey come
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bother this asshole over here so he doesn't shoot me they're here again.
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No i mean that's that's the honestly one of the biggest challenges but there's
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a lot of things that goes into it i mean even even if guys are respectful in
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all reality three or four hundred yards.
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I mean, heck, we had a buddy of ours set up, and he was like 350 yards,
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which is far enough away. I mean...
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But we could hear him talking like he was right next to us. I mean,
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we had full-on conversations with him.
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Yeah, yeah, we were, and not even really yelling, just like kind of talking
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back and forth between the boats.
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, he was far enough away.
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Like for me, as long as you're over 200 yards, it's a safe distance.
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But if there's not that many people out, we don't need to be that close, boys.
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Like we can spread out a little bit. Yeah, I think there was five boats out
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that day. Yeah, no, there wasn't many.
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But it happens, you know, it's part of it. Like I said, at least 200 on a really busy day.
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If you're getting, because at
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that range, at least you're, if you get peppered, it's not going to hurt.
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It's going to be, you're going to hear it hitting stuff. It's not going to sting
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it. It's going to be a rain.
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But anything closer than 200, you're just being a jackass. Go home. Yeah.
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That's, that's insane. And then you just, when you're hunting that close to,
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whenever people are that close together and you're calling it the same ducks.
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All the time. Like the ducks don't even have like a little sound gap between,
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parties of people and they can hear all these different parties.
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They're never, they're, they're probably not coming down.
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Nope. They're just going to keep going and say, yeah, let's get away from here.
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Makes it, makes everybody's hunt less enjoyable and makes it harder to kill
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birds. Yeah. We had a kind of odd one this weekend on Saturday.
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The spot we hunt on the river, there's guys that have permission on the field right above it.
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Well, we were getting ready to go down the boat ramp and go hunt our sandbar.
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And this guy comes up and he's like, Hey, we hunted the field yesterday.
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We're going to hunt it again.
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And I'm like, all right, well, where are you setting up? And he's like,
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we're going to set up right here. Showed me right on his phone.
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It was maybe a hundred yards behind us, but obviously like we were hunting water.
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They were hunting the field. I'm like, all right, dude, like they hunted it
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the day before he's got permission on the field, whatever.
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I shit you not, dude. He told me, he's like, these geese don't like to be called at.
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He was wrong. We had to absolutely hammer him.
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And he had to have been so pissed because the group that we shot the two bands
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out of, one of them landed up on the bank right on the edge of the field.
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So we obviously had to go get it. And the guy that went and got it was like,
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hey, it's banded. And I'm like, oh, that guy's got to be so fucking mad.
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Yeah, that would be a gut punch. But that was one of
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those instances that it worked out because like if the geese slid
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off into the field we would quit calling when we were working the birds they
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weren't calling at all and everything worked out fine that's a big thing no
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like if even if you have people set up close to you as long as each party's
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respective of the other it can work and it can work just fine,
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but once again the respect thing is harder to find than it used to be yeah still people out there,
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I try to be respectful when people are being respectful back,
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but you have times where it's just an all-out battle.
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It's fun. Those days are a blast. Oh, yeah.
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I mean, that kind of leads into, like, the perfect amount of pressure,
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like, the perfect amount of hunting pressure in an area or when it's too much.
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I mean, for me, for the area we hunt, I honestly like to see about seven or
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eight boats at the boat ramp every day.
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If there's less than that I mean It gets It gets hard Because the birds can
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They got too many areas They can go to and just chill They'll just go sit down
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And hang out Yep And it usually happens like that Yeah.
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Yeah, it's terrible. I hate it. Yeah, it's tough to put a number on it because
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like you could have, if you have eight boats that are spread out the right way,
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like usually during the weekdays, I mean, if you have eight boats,
24:39
the guys that are there on the weekdays kind of know,
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yeah, we'll spread out and everybody's got a fair shot.
24:46
If you have eight boats on a weekend, like say it's an ice up weekend or something,
24:50
and there's only eight boats there, which is a miracle in itself.
24:56
But if you have like if you get too stacked up on each other it still gives
25:00
them the space to just go hang out and not get shot at yeah for sure it makes them,
25:08
fly more longer into the day I think as long as like when everybody's spread
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out like that because they're not just going to try in the morning to come up
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into the marsh and chill they're going to keep trying unless it's you know 30
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like Friar let's say 30 boats then it's it's too much they'll hit that edge of the area,
25:28
and every Tom Dick and Swingin' Harry's calling at them or shooting at them
25:33
at 80 yards and they're gonna say eh we'll go back out here and hang out until
25:36
night we'll come back in at night yep we'll let you blow us out with the boats
25:40
in the morning and we won't see you again yep,
25:43
it's like they count how many boats come out in the morning and then they go
25:46
yep we gotta stay out here all day yep,
25:49
we'll try again tomorrow stingy bastards,
25:53
I don't think they could count.
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Maybe think they have like, they don't have that many, they have enough feathers
25:56
though. They could probably count the boats on their wings. Oh, for sure.
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For sure. And I wonder if they can count higher than Austin can. Oh, for sure.
26:08
That's, I mean, it's not saying a whole lot.
26:13
And then I guess the importance of knowing like the area you're hunting for
26:19
comes down to so many different weather situations or just.
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Being pressure situations. I mean, it could be, there could be a spot you hunt
26:29
on certain weather days.
26:30
Like it's a hard, it's a hard Northwest wind and you go to this hole every time and you kill your ducks.
26:36
But if there's 30 boats there, they might not make it up to that spot.
26:39
They might get turned around right away. So you got to go farther out or go
26:44
somewhere else to get to where the birds are going to make it to you.
26:47
Yeah. I've had that happen to a lot.
26:50
And that was even like that day we got all that snow that the spot that we went
26:54
was overpressured there's a boat in there every single day but we know that's
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an area they frequent they know how to get there and they couldn't see jack shit so we were like yep,
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that's where we're going and we shot them pretty good yeah yeah except for the
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fact that slushed up on us a little too sooner a little too soon yeah that was
27:15
not ideal that was some of the there was like an hour and a half there that
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was some of the heaviest snow i've hunted in in a long time.
27:24
Yeah, that was nuts. And then it would let up and then it would just start snowing sideways again.
27:29
Yeah, it was... What did my dad say when we talked to him on the phone at one point?
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It's snowing gerbils or something like that? Something like that, yeah.
27:37
I was like, what did you just say? He's like, yeah, it's snowing gerbils out
27:40
here. Hamsters. Maybe it was hamsters. I don't know.
27:43
I've never heard that before, but okay, that's a good one. It was a new one for sure.
27:49
But like, on those scenarios, like I see you have here...
27:53
On high wind days from a certain direction, like for our area,
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we'll blow all your water out too.
27:58
It's like you may set up in two foot of water or a foot and a half of water,
28:03
and then two hours into the hunt, you're in two inches of water.
28:08
I've legit seen two feet of water get blown out of the area before in less than an hour.
28:15
Yeah, it doesn't take near as long as you would think and it will leave you high and dry.
28:22
Better hope you brought plenty of Christmas tree cakes because you're going
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to be there for a while. Until the wind lets up.
28:28
Yeah. And then another three hours past that.
28:32
I still got like two boxes of Christmas tree cakes in the boat in the cooler.
28:36
Oh, we got to take the boat somewhere then.
28:40
Oh, it's meant to be. You can't take them out of the boat. They live there.
28:46
I mean, they're going to have to come out of the boat if they don't get eaten before winter's over.
28:50
But I'm saying we got to take the boat so we can eat the Christmas trees. They can't go to waste.
28:55
No, I mean, that's true. I just really hope it thaws out here in the next week and a half.
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It looks like we're going to get a warm-up here right before...
29:05
Season opens back up. Yeah, I see a lot of sunshine on those warm days too.
29:10
Hopefully it's sunshine and a hard south wind. That would be ideal.
29:16
Those are my favorite days to hunt, the reverse migration. Which,
29:20
it wouldn't be a reverse migration for honkers, but we'd get to see some cool shit for ducks.
29:24
Yeah. That's usually when I get my clips of ducks, and I know you always take
29:29
your photos of ducks after season.
29:30
Yeah, I usually do it in the springtime. I haven't really messed with it much
29:34
during season until this year, which the new lens helps that. Yeah.
29:41
I enjoy taking videos of ducks, but I don't have the time for it.
29:47
I'm too busy trying to make sure that, or trying to help make sure that we get
29:51
the chance to kill as many ducks as we can.
29:53
Whether it's our limit or it's the only two we get to kill that day,
29:57
I don't want to be stuck with my phone in my hand going, oh,
29:59
I wish I'd have got a call at those or I wish I wish I could have got shot at that group. Yeah.
30:05
You never know when it's going to be the last group of the day.
30:08
Yeah. That's the funny thing. Like when I take my camera, the first group I always shoot into.
30:12
And then after that, if it's pretty immediate after we shoot that first group,
30:16
I'm like, yeah, I'll grab the camera. You know, we got, got some time today.
30:20
But if it's a while, I'm like, yeah, I'll just leave the camera sitting down there.
30:24
We got to shoot our shit and get out of here. Right.
30:28
Well, why did you check off the next section here? We already talked about it pretty much.
30:32
No, we got to really talk about it. We just dabbled into it. Let it rip.
30:37
I'm going to let you start the topic out. I got to grab another latte before
30:41
I get into this part. All right, we'll unblock it then.
30:46
There you go. Now we can get into the topic. All right, this is a great question for you.
30:51
Oh, he's going to grab a latte. When he comes back, I'll ask him.
30:56
We're going to start talking about the 200-yard away setup and how we take that.
31:04
Saying how he does it because I have been there when you have done the same thing.
31:10
I could still hear you even though I took my headphones off.
31:14
Yeah, we both do it. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to push it all on me.
31:18
Come on now. I got the volume so loud on these things. I'm deaf.
31:21
I could still hear them across the room. Huh?
31:26
All right. I'm gonna let you rip it then. How often do you let off birds when
31:31
they're sliding off to another group well that depends if they're if they're
31:36
playing nice that day now if somebody sets up within 100 yards of me or 150 yards of me,
31:44
they're probably not going to shoot a duck that day because
31:49
i have i bring a lot of shells with me
31:52
every day and i have a lot of free time and i
31:55
get a hunt 90 of the duck season so i
31:59
will make sure they don't do it again and it works most of
32:02
the time that party does not do that again to anybody
32:05
else it does that is the worst
32:09
thing like you and i are both really good
32:11
about if there's a group that's a reasonable distance away if the birds work
32:16
us and then they kind of slide off their direction we're like all right we're
32:19
we're done we'll let them work them for a while and then if they come back we'll
32:22
we'll call them again and do our thing but if they're within i would even push it out to 200 yards.
32:29
If they're within that, Tyler and I are both pissed. Yeah.
32:34
But I mean, if they're at the 200 yard mark and they're being respectful,
32:39
like they're calling at the birds when they should be calling at them,
32:43
you know, whenever they think they're working them.
32:45
And then they say the birds just kind of lose interest in them and they move
32:48
on to that group that's next in line from them.
32:50
As long as, like if they're being respectful and they kind of quit calling,
32:53
if they're starting to work the other group instead of them and the other group
32:57
was being Fair and letting them work the group birds first I don't have a problem with it.
33:04
Say we're working a group of birds, and we can hear freaking Dingleberry off
33:08
to the left just letting it rip like he's in Arkansas at the World Championship
33:13
Duck Calling Contest. Just going to town.
33:16
Yeah, we're going to have a fun day.
33:19
And it's nine times out of ten, it's the second part of that.
33:23
Nobody seems to have any respect anymore.
33:26
Like I said earlier, it doesn't matter how early you have the hole.
33:30
They'll come right in there and set up right on top of you and they'll call
33:34
it every single bird that's working your spread and then they just totally dick
33:37
it up for everybody yeah i mean,
33:40
i don't ever unless you're really close i don't ever rip on someone right away
33:45
if they set up close to us like i'll be i'll throw a little tantrum a little
33:49
pouty fit maybe for an hour,
33:53
but i'll let them do their thing and as soon as they kind of screw us once it's
33:58
like all right now yeah i see what you're gonna be but if you can be a respectful
34:02
human being out there and,
34:04
treat someone the same way you want to be treated going back to like the private ground
34:07
you know if you if you respect the hunter next to you or the party next to you
34:12
you're gonna get the same well not always but you're gonna get the same thing
34:15
more often than not back yeah i like to believe at least and i i try to be as
34:20
cordial as i can and as friendly as i can when it comes to that stuff.
34:23
Otherwise, it just leads to drama.
34:25
And while drama is fun, it also gets old and annoying quick.
34:31
Especially when you're all out there to do the same thing. And especially when
34:33
you have a boat that everybody knows.
34:37
Yeah. Yeah. Everybody knows what my boat or trailer looks like in my truck.
34:41
So I don't really need that problems.
34:44
I don't have enough problems. Yeah. The thing about like where we hunt to,
34:49
some of the places that we hunt, like they can be a hundred yards behind you,
34:54
but it's a totally different pocket.
34:56
Like when you look at it on the map, it's a totally different area, so to say.
35:01
Especially now. Now that a lot of our habitats came back compared to,
35:05
what, five years ago when we had just some ditch weed growing out there. That was it.
35:10
And you could see miles.
35:13
Like, you could see a duck coming for an hour before it got there.
35:16
It's like, here he comes, boys. Get ready.
35:19
When's he coming? We already ate breakfast and everything. Tomorrow.
35:25
But no, I get what you mean there. because if you're hunting a whole other timber
35:31
hole or whatever it is, I mean, obviously, you're in a different area.
35:35
So it's a little bit easier to manage then too.
35:39
Still all boils down to how you respect it though.
35:42
No matter what. No matter what. I mean, this old saying still goes.
35:47
You get the respect that you give.
35:49
I mean, it's not always the case, but whether you're on private or public,
35:53
Like it's, you're going to get what you give nine times out of 10.
35:59
Well, what kinds of different types of strategies do you like to do out pheasant
36:04
hunting? Screw pheasant.
36:08
A hostin. What a loser. A big bad pheasant hunter.
36:15
Hate this episode i love it no i
36:19
do too i really hope he pops in here so we can just roast him to his face and
36:23
then he texted me 10 minutes ago said he's heading home so i don't know how
36:28
far away his training was but the whole listening audience is about to hear
36:33
us roast austin when he pops in here yeah no he's gonna hate life,
36:39
but it's hard to for me it's hard to even compare like a public versus a private
36:45
setup Cause we always hunt water on public and all of my private stuff.
36:49
And I think you're the same way as all fields.
36:54
There's there's some ponds that i've hunted but i mean for the most part yeah
36:59
it's mostly fields that are private yeah i have some ponds that i can hunt too
37:04
and i'm usually just like man 10 ducks or a couple thousand we can we can try
37:10
to hunt i'll take the couple thousand,
37:12
it's gotta be a pretty unreal pond for
37:15
me to go duck hunt it now goose hunting i'll go hunt a pond yeah
37:18
for sure especially if they're coming in in singles and
37:21
pairs that that can be some of the most fun hunts when you hunt a private pond
37:26
that the geese are coming in and just singles pairs or groups of threes that's
37:30
a blast especially especially because you can damn near guarantee wherever your
37:34
decoys are at they are going to suck directly to those it is freaking awesome,
37:39
yes and i love the singles because then
37:42
you get like we usually tell like before
37:46
it comes as it's coming in we're saying who's shooting it it's always
37:49
fun to roast the guy that misses on that single
37:52
yep that has got to be the best
37:55
part about it that was another austin story from the
37:57
weekend he did that oh he did tell me about
38:00
that yep yeah pulled up and whiffed it don't don't worry i i cleaned it up for
38:05
him oh at least you were there it was within 50 yards too i was shocked i thought
38:13
i was believing the story until there i don't believe it now i thought i was gonna miss it too.
38:22
Yeah i mean for me like
38:26
when it comes to setups in a field more
38:29
apt to like spread the decoys out and get
38:32
them farther away on on water i don't want to set a decoy out of my shooting
38:37
range period yep in a field though i'll i'll spread decoys out 100 yards if
38:43
not more sometimes it kind of backfires on you a little bit but nine times out
38:47
of ten wherever you put that dense spot and where that Collins coming from is
38:50
where they're going to go on a field. Yep.
38:53
And water they they sometimes a lot of times
38:56
will just skirt the edge of that decoy at 100 yards and say
38:59
i'll see you yeah they almost always do yeah i yell at somebody every time they
39:04
put a decoy that's like well would you shoot that far well no well then don't
39:08
put the freaking decoy there now i'm getting mad oh i love it when you get grumpy
39:14
i heard you got grumpy this weekend,
39:18
I did. I threw a full tantrum.
39:20
I threw my calls and everything. I was pissed.
39:23
I can't remember if you told me, but I know Austin was telling me about it.
39:26
Or somebody, or maybe, did you tell me about it? I think I did.
39:30
It was a damn good one. I haven't had a blow up like that in a long time.
39:35
Had to clean some sand out of your calls, I heard? Yeah, it took me like an hour.
39:40
Oh, that's rough. An hour and two bottles of water. Two of the big Casey's bottles of water.
39:47
How froze up were your calls after that? Because it was pretty cold, wasn't it?
39:51
Yeah, it was chilly, but I had a heater blasting on me, so I wouldn't,
39:54
I don't even know if they froze, honestly.
39:58
But yeah, that morning was just, every little thing that could go wrong went
40:01
wrong, and I had enough. I lost my shit.
40:06
Now you understand. I get it. We all have our breakdowns once in a while.
40:12
I mean, I would never do that. It was funny though, because it was exactly like
40:16
when you have your little meltdowns, everybody just gets super quiet.
40:20
And I just had to sit there and like, I turned around and I started laughing
40:23
and I'm like, I, I, yep. I've been on that end before.
40:27
Yeah. I know. It's always a terrible feeling after the fact,
40:30
like after you like threw your fit and you sit there and think about it like, fuck.
40:35
Like a jackass. Now I got to clean 20 pounds of sand out of my freaking calls.
40:40
This is going to be great. I've never had to do that.
40:43
Yeah, I'm telling you, dude, it was a full-fledged meltdown. It was bad.
40:49
I have that on them big jobs, though. I felt way better after, though.
40:55
So, kind of like our next two topics here in that strategy section are based off of calling styles.
41:03
So, I mean, for me, my calling style has changed definitely,
41:08
not even just by the day, but by the hour or by the group of ducks.
41:13
I mean, every group's different and every group's going to do something different.
41:17
I mean, they're birds. They have the brain the size of a peanut,
41:20
but they can see everything. Yep.
41:24
My calling styles change definitely more for private ground than, than on the public.
41:31
Cause the private ground, but
41:32
I'm hunting a field to put on what the geese want, but I try to be softer.
41:36
Once I get their attention, I ain't doing much. Nope.
41:40
Just a couple of clocks or a moan. Or if I'm, if I'm duck hunting,
41:43
it's, I hate feed chuckling, but I will do a ton of it in a field.
41:47
And that's just to kind of keep
41:49
their intent, like draw their attention to where I want them to finish at.
41:54
Yeah. Yeah, a chuckle or one of those little soft quack sequences are absolutely
41:59
freaking killer in the field. Yeah.
42:02
But when it's windy out, man, I'm shredding it.
42:07
I'm going to be as loud as I possibly can for as long as I can just to make
42:12
sure that they do it where we want because they can't.
42:15
Just imagine, I mean, I feel like a duck or a goose can hear super well because
42:20
obviously when they're,
42:22
people never believe me that they can hear you hear me whenever they're way
42:25
up there look like little dots in the sky
42:27
you start ripping on them and also they start peeling out of the sky and
42:31
they're like i can't believe you called those ducks and they can hear way better
42:34
than you think oh yeah i always think it's funny when we hunt with a bigger
42:38
group and you and i do it all the time we'll see that lone honker way the hell
42:43
up there yep screw it let's try it next thing you know that thing's in the decoys
42:48
and dead people are like how in the hell did you do that and it's like you gotta try i guess,
42:54
you never know if you don't call it every single bird that flies by I call it
42:59
crows too yeah yeah you do yeah crows are fun sometimes they talk back they
43:07
usually do yeah I even tend to call it the seagull just when we're really bored,
43:13
the flight radar the flight radar app is awesome for those clear days you look
43:19
up and where's that plane going yeah.
43:25
Uh, I mean, you, what are your thoughts for Colin Stiles?
43:30
Like you said, definitely way softer in a private field. I mean,
43:36
you don't have any other hunting pressure around you.
43:39
Like you said, once you get them, once you get their attention,
43:42
it's pretty, pretty cut and dry.
43:44
They're cupped up and on the deck. I mean, you don't really have to do a whole lot.
43:49
Same thing with ducks. like you just once you get their attention and spinners
43:54
in a field are a freaking act of god,
43:57
especially when it's sunny out i've had days
44:00
that you have all the goose decoys out and you put one spinner out and it's
44:03
sunny they just absolutely suck right to that thing we've talked about it before
44:08
we don't really care for them on the water just because every every like you
44:13
said tom dick and harry has them sometimes it's better just to be different
44:17
but in a field dude those things are a must. Absolute must.
44:23
Yeah, I don't think I've ever field-hunted and targeted ducks and didn't have at least two out.
44:30
I mean, I'm talking like I'm going to try to put four out, but I don't even
44:34
own four. I own two that work.
44:36
I own like 12, but two work. Yeah.
44:42
But yeah, calling on private is a lot easier on the lungs than calling on public.
44:48
I would agree with you on that, except for our last day in North Dakota.
44:53
I heard about that.
44:56
I've never had to call so much at geese in my life other than that day.
45:01
I think it's because there was just so many of them and they were making so
45:05
much noise that they'd just lose interest if they didn't hear you just completely
45:09
ripping on them until you said, take him. Yeah.
45:13
That was, that was, it was really cool. I wish they would have came in a little
45:17
bit more spaced out because as soon as you took your shots and killed your birds
45:23
out of that group you were calling at,
45:25
you had to load your gun and cover up and call as hard and as fast and as loud as you could again.
45:31
That sucked. Yeah.
45:35
I had the same thing this weekend on the river too, though. Like we started
45:38
off calling, like obviously you'd hit them harder when they're further away
45:41
and slow down as they come in.
45:43
They just wouldn't quite commit all the way. And then there was one time I said,
45:48
fuck it and just hammered them all the way to the hole.
45:51
And it was insane. Night and day different.
45:53
I love the way geese do it on water.
45:56
Big ass feet hanging out there. Gaining for a band.
46:00
We had them doing maple leafs and backflips and all kinds of shit this weekend
46:05
too it was definitely a weekend I should have brought the camera but we didn't
46:08
quite have enough guys to make it worth,
46:11
not shooting geese they were showing you all their trick shots that was cool,
46:19
I mean you know one thing that I wish we could have but I just don't I don't
46:26
think it would work in a lot of scenarios for where we hunt is a trailer blind.
46:30
Yeah. Because I would enjoy field hunting so much more if I didn't have to sit
46:33
in a layout blind and freeze my nuts off. Mm-hmm.
46:37
But, I mean, field hunting can be so rewarding, but.
46:41
Onto the boat is just so much warmer. Yeah. And you get breakfast.
46:46
Yeah. Hot breakfast, not no honey bun or whatever the hell people bring in their
46:51
blinds nowadays that you got to stick on top of the buddy heater so it thaws
46:54
out because it's freaking 10 degrees out and that thing's harder than a rock.
46:59
Bro, if you're putting, if you're fitting a buddy heater in your layout blind,
47:02
you are living life on the edge.
47:04
Yeah, I was thinking an A-frame. My bad. My bad, G. My bad.
47:09
I want to see you do it. we'll have a little campfire out there. No, not gonna happen.
47:15
I do wonder if they make like a, I wish they made like a little battery powered,
47:20
space heater that you could put in a layout blind. I'm gonna have to do some looking on that.
47:23
That'd be sick. That would be sick because I've tried the, like the heated back pads and shit.
47:29
They just don't do it. By the time you bundle up, you can't even feel it. No.
47:34
My biggest thing for a layout, like, obviously if I'm hunting a field,
47:37
nine times out of ten it's gonna be in a layout because you can hide them The best.
47:42
But I hate, I'm not a big guy, but I just hate having, like,
47:46
the way you have to come out of a layout blind to shoot.
47:49
I'm not the quickest at it. I don't know why. I'm just not. I'm not either. I never have been. Yeah.
47:55
Maybe I should start doing more crunches before hunting season, before goose season.
47:59
But I've just never been quick and fast at like pulling up and shoulder in the gun.
48:05
I'm not the guy that can just jump out and go.
48:08
That's why like hunting, like out of a layout in a field, I always hate it when
48:13
the geese like try to come from behind you and you get stuck with that.
48:18
Like you got to roll over and do all that acrobatic shit.
48:22
I absolutely hate that. Cause I'm the last one out of the blind.
48:25
But maybe that's where I learned how to shoot 50, 60 yards like nothing. Could be.
48:32
Speaking of layout blind hunting, Pookie had a really hard time in North Dakota,
48:37
hunting out of that layout because he kept hitting his safety.
48:40
He wouldn't even get his shot off. He'd pull up, and he'd hit his safety.
48:45
He had a right-handed gun, and he shoots left-handed, so it wasn't working out
48:48
for him. We'll let him weigh in on the situation since he just beeped in. Hi, Pookie.
48:54
What's going on? What's going on?
48:57
Oh, you know, they're just talking about you. Talking about me?
49:01
Yep. Not talking to you because you weren't here. Yeah, I'm sorry.
49:05
I did not think that tonight was going to take as long as it did.
49:10
I trust that you guys handled it and are getting these good people a bunch of
49:16
useless information from you, too. Damn.
49:20
Can you read what's scrolling across the screen right now? That's the first
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thing I saw When I popped in.
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You just wait till you hear the intro The intro was good I can only imagine
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I'll listen to it tomorrow When I go to work Yeah no it's You'll love it It's
49:39
gonna go well Good Good So We were just talking about,
49:46
layout blinds and fields and your struggle you
49:48
were having with your gun in north dakota for
49:52
your first time yeah that oversized safety
49:55
on that uh winchester sx4 that
49:58
i hunt with is i mean i love
50:01
it absolutely but just with me
50:04
being left-handed and that being a right-handed gun so naturally everything
50:07
works against me was definitely a
50:10
challenge that i was not ready for and then it just kind of carried back in
50:16
like I had never done it until we went to North Dakota and then even when we
50:20
returned to North Dakota and started hunting in Iowa again I'm like I'm doing
50:25
it still so I think maybe like,
50:28
subconsciously it fucked with me a little bit and then I started overthinking about
50:32
it and continued to do it but with the help of you
50:34
guys we got it figured out got the safety switched and then this past weekend
50:40
didn't happen once so you're welcome i sacrificed my truck for that yeah i do
50:45
appreciate you you sacrificed your truck for him to still lift a single i did
50:50
oh yeah no don't worry don't worry.
50:55
Yeah, it's true. We did just discuss that too, how you were whiffing on singles
50:59
and sure shot Cade had to clean up.
51:03
Whoa, relax. It was one. If I do recall, Cade's gun got stuck and a bird that
51:10
definitely should have died got out too.
51:12
I don't want to point me. But I didn't miss the one that was in the fucking
51:16
decoys like you did. No, neither did I.
51:19
We shot those two together that were standing in the decoys.
51:26
Were you guys just letting them eat some sand before they got out of there or
51:29
what yeah no we were definitely letting them get comfy like we were hoping that
51:33
they would just invite more of their homies over but that didn't work they invited
51:38
one that was off my end and my freaking,
51:41
charge handle got stuck in the blind so by the time he got by the time i got
51:47
up he was out far enough that i wasn't even comfortable shooting it and i would
51:50
have shot him right in the ass Didn't have a boat.
51:53
It was just my dog. And I'm like, I'm not even sending him on that.
51:57
Whoa. What do you mean it was just your dog? We're talking about Hank here.
52:01
Dude, that would have been a freaking 200-yard swim by the time he got to that thing.
52:05
He'd have been so pumped. And he probably could have walked half of it.
52:09
Not where that thing was at. Really?
52:11
It was definitely going towards the deeper side. Yes.
52:16
He still would have been pumped about it. He would have been pumped to try it. He would have.
52:20
Oh, don't worry. We gotta go back and refuel for snacks.
52:24
Dawson shot enough birds in the ass that Hank got plenty of time in the water. That's a fact.
52:31
Good. I'm sure he just loved his time out there. Yep. He was enjoying it.
52:36
I actually had to call him off a mallard.
52:38
I was surprised he listened to me. But then that thing dove and never surfaced.
52:45
At least you can call your dog off, Ducks. When Ellie's on it,
52:49
partly because I think she's deaf, but,
52:52
care she's just going for it no it was tough i had to shock the shit out of
52:56
him so you had a shot color see i don't run ellie's shot color anymore because
53:00
i i tried it i would zap the shit out of her and she just kind of look back
53:05
like fuck you and keep going this is my bird,
53:10
see if i even whack if i whack hank on like the first level he does a horrendous
53:17
yell and he fucking hates that thing so i kind of got him by the non-existent balls there,
53:23
He pretty much just says that you don't love him anymore and he's done.
53:28
He won't let me get this dog. I hate it here. Taking my ball and I'm going home.
53:36
So we were just talking about A-frames versus layouts in the field.
53:41
Obviously, I voiced my opinion on that.
53:44
What is y'all's opinion on that? Or the trailer blind thing.
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The trailer blind would be sick if you could hide it. I mean I feel like you
53:53
could if you did it right you could stubble that thing with corn and I don't
53:56
feel like it would look that bad,
53:58
especially on like a cloudy day where you don't have a lot of shadows I think
54:01
you could get away with it,
54:02
I think you could hide a trailer blind easier than an A-frame though because
54:06
it looks more like a grass patch or like a yeah whatever in the field I've never
54:12
hunted out of one so I don't I can't really,
54:14
speak on that I've done it once like hunting out of the boat it's freaking awesome,
54:18
we should build one they're expensive,
54:22
Dawson has one he built one his out of wood right yeah yeah,
54:28
gotta be heavy as shit yeah but yeah obviously layouts are the best for concealment
54:35
what are you doing just looking at continue look at that austin over there what's he got going on.
54:47
Layouts are the best for concealment obviously if you have like a a fence row
54:52
that's got some trees in it or some really really really tall grass you can
54:56
hide an a-frame just fine but But I hate when people just stuff them full of
55:00
corn and put them right in the middle of a field.
55:03
Every time we do that, I'm like, what the hell?
55:07
Have you ever had luck doing that? Putting an A-frame out in the middle of a field? Only in the snow.
55:12
Do you? And by snow, I mean. So did you run a snow cover? No.
55:16
And then just grassed it and then threw snow on it?
55:19
Didn't even throw snow on it. It was just, it was legit. Like that day we hunted
55:23
out of the boat, it was snowing that hard. So I don't think they could even see it.
55:28
But every other time that I've tried it in the middle of a field,
55:31
even with snow and like you throw snow on the blind, it never works well.
55:36
I've seen guys have good luck doing it, but every time I've tried it,
55:39
I don't kill anything that day. It's terrible.
55:42
You're warm, but you don't kill shit. Yeah.
55:45
Warm and more. I mean, I think A-frames are so much more comfortable than layouts, but.
55:52
I don't know. I'm taking some fat naps in a layout, dude. Oh, as have I. Yeah.
55:58
You heard me snoring sitting beside you? Huh? You heard me snoring in a layoff laying beside you?
56:06
I took like a... Go ahead. Especially with that heater body seat you got? Night-night. Yeah.
56:12
I... The birds are here.
56:16
Whenever Austin and Zach went scouting one day in North Dakota in like the middle
56:19
of the day when we really didn't think anything was going to fly,
56:22
me and Trevor stayed behind.
56:24
I took the fattest nap I've ever taken in a layoff line before.
56:27
I'm pretty sure I had to be snoring, but I slept for probably two hours,
56:31
hour and a half, two hours.
56:32
That's impressive. I was, I was tired. Sleepy boy.
56:39
Say when you brush in layouts in a
56:41
field incredibly well like it
56:45
it always makes me feel really good if we're like doing a whole day sit in a
56:50
field or something we hunt the morning and then decide to go eat lunch and by
56:53
the time you get back to the to the truck to head out and you turn around and
56:57
look at your decoys and you can't even tell where your blinds are yeah i really
57:01
like looking at that yeah it's nice,
57:05
especially if like if it's a low stubble field and you kind of talk to the landowner beforehand,
57:11
and you kind of dig those blinds in a little bit like you dig a little one foot
57:15
deep area I mean I've never done more than a foot but you dig that foot down
57:20
and put those blinds in those holes,
57:23
you can be invisible then for sure a lot of work though that sucks,
57:29
especially when it's cold out and the ground's like not fully frozen but it's
57:33
soft enough you can do it just absolutely sucks gets all crunchy,
57:39
yeah dude the dog's out there digging get to work yeah no kidding yeah just
57:45
tell Ellie there's like a million rocks in this little patch dude she'd have
57:48
it done in like five minutes I know,
57:51
unless it's her nap time then she ain't doing shit,
57:55
like right now yeah yeah.
57:59
Let's just kind of go over what we've talked about here As we kind of close
58:04
up this episode I mean we've discussed a few topics here Private versus public Talked about,
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Respecting private ground If it's not yours Treat it the way you would want
58:17
someone To treat your house if they came in there,
58:20
Don't just leave it trashed You know if you go to a field And it's a guy that
58:24
you've never hunted before If you leave it and it looks like You've never been
58:28
there I promise you he's going to let you hunt it again the next year unless
58:32
somebody else came in and hunted it and ruined it.
58:35
But even then, you still probably have a fat chance of trying to get hunted again.
58:40
Ground. I mean, stay at your ground. Don't let anybody talk back to you.
58:44
Slap them in the face and kill ducks.
58:48
Simple as that. Don't even let Austin fuck with you. No. I mean,
58:52
he's turning into a deer hunter now anyways, so we won't see much more of him. Wow.
58:57
Wow. That's, for somebody that's stuck in a different state,
59:02
not hunting at all and not contributing to our hunting, that's criminal. Not contributing.
59:09
Yeah. Whoa, those are some big words. Yeah, yeah.
59:15
What did you think about doing this weekend for hunting?
59:18
I'm not hunting anything. Oh, you're not going to go now? It's closed.
59:23
Yeah, okay. You know, because it's crazy that I could have swore you had talked
59:27
about using an ice eater possibly in a pond, you know.
59:31
Yeah, I found this ice eater in front of somebody's house.
59:36
Oddly enough oddly enough I'm sitting here looking at it I'll just change the
59:40
code on my garage so he can't get in,
59:42
that's crazy I'll kick the door down I was gonna say do you think a door is
59:48
gonna stop him no dude I know a lady that's not afraid to hit stuff run right
59:54
through that garage door.
59:59
Damn see what she can do to a pickup just imagine what she'll do to your garage door R.I.P.
1:00:06
Take that, Cade. I lose.
1:00:10
Ha ha. No, actually, you win. Insurance comes through clutch.
1:00:14
Yeah. But I have a lot of shit in here that she would mess up.
1:00:18
Mm-hmm. You don't got no fucking tools, because we asked for tools the other
1:00:21
day, and you couldn't find a screwdriver.
1:00:24
That is fair. That is fair. It's all at the race shop. Not here.
1:00:32
I mean, do you have any... Anything you wanted to touch on? I don't know if
1:00:37
you have the dock open, Austin, but...
1:00:40
I looked over the dock, just kind of looked through the closing thoughts and so on and so forth.
1:00:47
I haven't really decided what I'll do this weekend if I get that ice heater thrown together.
1:00:52
I already have permission on a couple different ponds that we could at least
1:00:56
test it out on and, I mean, see how it works for different size ponds,
1:01:01
different depths, and how much water it can clear and how long it takes to kind
1:01:05
of report back to you guys for so on and so forth through the rest of goose season.
1:01:11
But we'll see what this weekend brings.
1:01:13
What, obviously, with you guys not being around, if I do it solo or see if anybody
1:01:19
else wants to try to tackle that with me.
1:01:22
Cade's not going to be around, dude. This dude's just skipping out on hunting
1:01:26
season now. He's just part-timer.
1:01:28
Part-time. Kind of like Austin's podcast career, part-time. Yes. Boom-roasted.
1:01:34
Yep. Yep. Ducks are over around home, so I'm gypping state.
1:01:39
That's crazy. Ducks are over around home. All you have to do is drive three miles south.
1:01:45
How many ducks are three miles south? I don't know. Enough.
1:01:49
I bet there's a little. What do you mean enough? You got home from work and
1:01:53
took a nap. You didn't go see how many ducks are south.
1:01:56
I bet we could at least find eight mallards south.
1:02:02
No, he's probably right on that one. And you can probably find at least eight.
1:02:08
It's all right, though. I get it. Take a weekend off. Come back well-rested for after the split.
1:02:14
We'll get after it for the last about a month, month and a week.
1:02:19
Hopefully daddy's home. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to be the
1:02:22
polar opposite of well-rested.
1:02:24
Good. Are you on partying? Yeah. Yes.
1:02:31
Heck yeah. Hopefully I get some good Snapchat. Yeah, drunk snaps from Cade.
1:02:36
I've been saving it all dog season. I'm ready to rip you know how he's been
1:02:40
making fun of us for listening to Pink Pony Club,
1:02:43
he's gonna do it he's gonna do it I will just for you yes yes I'm saving that
1:02:49
Snapchat too 100% yeah absolutely,
1:02:53
that'll be our first one of our first reels on Instagram when we start posting
1:02:57
on Instagram more as you should yeah,
1:03:01
I mean, I don't know if I'm fully going to be transitioning to geese when I come home.
1:03:07
I mean, I'm going to go goose hunting, but I still have the appetite to kill ducks.
1:03:13
So, I mean, a trip to a different state is never off the table.
1:03:18
I still have plenty of vacation to use.
1:03:21
We did talk about that today. Cade has vacation coming up too. I do.
1:03:26
Not that he'll use it though, because Cade doesn't use vacation.
1:03:29
No, he actually hates us. Yeah.
1:03:33
I'm trying to save it so we can go on a trip next year. Come on now.
1:03:37
Allegedly. Yeah. I'll believe it when he shows up.
1:03:41
Damn. Yeah. He's, he probably would cancel.
1:03:46
Well, what about three weeks, two and a half, three weeks before the trip. I hate it here.
1:03:51
I'm taking my ball and I'm going home. We had to switch it up a little bit.
1:03:54
I mean, me and you've been roasting Austin.
1:03:57
I can only imagine the shit. I'm going to hear when I listen to this tomorrow morning.
1:04:03
I'm not going to lie. It was pretty chill compared to what it could have been.
1:04:08
I had thought about saying more, but I really didn't want to hurt your feelings
1:04:11
because, you know, you've been kind of a little bitch lately in tech.
1:04:15
Yeah, I'm so fragile, and I do appreciate you looking out for my feelings like that.
1:04:21
Yeah, so think about that whenever you do listen to the rest of the episode
1:04:25
tomorrow, that it could have been much worse. Good deal.
1:04:29
But yeah I mean this was fun I'm glad you could join us for the last I don't
1:04:33
know 8 minutes 9 minutes something like that I've been on for like 20 ish or
1:04:38
so now I don't know if I buy that it could be,
1:04:42
I'll edit it down to where my 9 minutes is correct there you go.
1:04:48
Anything you guys would like to add before we close up this motherfucking shop,
1:04:55
I feel like Kooky should add something.
1:04:57
I mean, dude, as much as he talked Thursday, oh, we'll add that.
1:05:01
We'll let Austin add what happened this past Thursday real quick.
1:05:05
Oh, yeah. I didn't know if you guys had already talked about that or not. No.
1:05:08
So we got the opportunity to go on another podcast with some of my buddies.
1:05:14
They are primarily in the deer and turkey hunting world.
1:05:20
We'd love it if you guys go over and give their podcast with us.
1:05:23
I think it ended up being like just over two hours long. Did they post it?
1:05:29
No, no, no. They're, but they're like complete are almost completely done editing it at this point.
1:05:36
So just over two hours long of straight up shit talking back and forth between acorn cow hunters.
1:05:45
And so the real legends here. Correct.
1:05:49
Yeah. So yeah, go and give them a look. they're on all platforms of social media
1:05:55
facebook tiktok instagram their podcast is also posted on apple spotify all
1:06:02
the all the major ones living legends outdoors really good group of guys,
1:06:07
it was it was a lot of fun i wish tyler would have been able to be there in
1:06:11
person i think the banter would have even been better in it but no we i mean
1:06:15
i got i got mad and hung up at one point yeah that's fair,
1:06:20
that's fair he uh yeah Tyler didn't Tyler didn't get a lot of words and Cade
1:06:26
and I did a lot of the talking Austin did a lot of the talking I did yeah well
1:06:31
if yeah if you want to hear Austin talk just go to that podcast and listen to it cause he
1:06:35
talked like three fourths of the episode it was crazy mind blowing,
1:06:39
sorry I had a lot to say did I say anything bad I don't know I haven't listened
1:06:44
to the podcast yet oh fair enough.
1:06:48
No that was it was a lot of fun though I enjoyed it a little bit different style podcast but,
1:06:54
of good dudes and it was a lot of fun i will say for
1:06:57
as many dudes that were on that podcast there wasn't
1:07:00
a whole lot of talking over people that went
1:07:04
it went pretty well on that side of it really and
1:07:08
uh hopefully tyler can see their setup sometime in person because
1:07:11
their setup that they have for it is is
1:07:14
pretty sweet the the table and everything and
1:07:17
all the all the mics around i wish their chairs were a
1:07:20
little a little easier to use but they're they're
1:07:24
set up in one of the guys basements is is pretty
1:07:27
sweet we're gonna go over there when i get home and
1:07:30
drink a few beers with them and talk to them because i got to
1:07:33
talk shit face to face at least because they were talking enough over
1:07:36
the phone i got to get them back a little bit absolutely it's
1:07:40
it was it was kind of hard to do it over the phone because i couldn't see
1:07:43
like you guys were there to see their facial expressions see how the vibe
1:07:46
was i knew it was mostly i knew it was all in
1:07:49
fun but it's harder to do on the phone you can't see
1:07:52
it right right but i'm sure
1:07:55
we'll either i mean hopefully we do something like that a collaboration with
1:08:00
it i don't have to add that edit that part out that was that was terrible minor
1:08:06
hiccups as we close out the podcast but i got fat fingers and hit buttons, okay? Bear with me.
1:08:14
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