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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Dustin Ross, you gotta do it like.
- 0:48Speaker 3: So much, spot so much?
- 0:55Speaker 2: Are you faithful? Okay? Which one you? Traders? Traders?
- 1:05Speaker 1: I listen, I'm a I'm a faithful person.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Doesn't but you know, for the right of monocoling, that's right,
- 1:18Speaker 4: that's right.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Okay, baby, this was good.
- 1:22Speaker 4: These put episodes four and five were good as hell, Carlos.
- 1:25Speaker 2: They on the roll over there. This is a great season, man.
- 1:29Speaker 1: A great it really is. And obviously it is my
- 1:32Speaker 1: first time watching it. Oh look at lista reader or
- 1:36Speaker 1: shall I say, Caroline Stansbury bitch.
- 1:45Speaker 2: So nasty? It is so rude, right, Carlos.
- 1:49Speaker 3: So nasty, so real? Listen.
- 1:51Speaker 1: That should be the title of this episode, episode four
- 1:54Speaker 1: or five. Dustin rass Carlos king, we are recapping that
- 1:58Speaker 1: of the Traders four and what I say to you,
- 2:03Speaker 1: it was as delicious as Candace dealer bassts fashion.
- 2:07Speaker 3: So let's just get right into it.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So we found out Dustin at the top of episode
- 2:15Speaker 1: four that Caroline Stansbury was murdered.
- 2:20Speaker 3: She was, she was, but how do you feel about that?
- 2:23Speaker 1: The funny thing to me, though, is when she saw
- 2:27Speaker 1: that it was Lisa, Renna, Candace and Rob, she literally said.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Renda, you bitch like she did?
- 2:36Speaker 4: That was that was classic classic. You can't make that
- 2:39Speaker 4: kind of stuff up. And so the fact that they
- 2:42Speaker 4: had that exchange, or she was literally chained to a
- 2:45Speaker 4: tree and speaking through clinched teeth.
- 2:47Speaker 2: With that accent.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Okay, that was that was television gold Carlos, television gold Man.
- 2:54Speaker 2: That was so good.
- 2:56Speaker 3: It was really good.
- 2:57Speaker 1: But I have to admit I wasn't I wasn't a
- 3:00Speaker 1: probed in the beginning because I'm like, wait a second,
- 3:04Speaker 1: Like I thought the housewives were supposed to stick together.
- 3:08Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you this, you've been watching
- 3:11Speaker 1: this in season one, that sort of like be the
- 3:15Speaker 1: sort of like unwritten rule that be housewives really do
- 3:20Speaker 1: stick together, and it's a known pack for every season one.
- 3:25Speaker 4: That's just the it's it's cold almost you know what
- 3:28Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, you don't go against your sisterhood or
- 3:30Speaker 4: else you're gonna be sitting up there like Jennifer Williams
- 3:33Speaker 4: was sitting up there on basketball.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Was the supposed to be a sisterhood right now?
- 3:38Speaker 4: No sisterhood, that's that's how you're gonna fuck around the field,
- 3:41Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
- 3:42Speaker 2: But you're supposed to stick together.
- 3:44Speaker 4: And you see the unity amongst the other groups in
- 3:46Speaker 4: the cast to the gamers be rolling together in packs,
- 3:49Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I think that it
- 3:52Speaker 4: is just it would make the most sense. You got
- 3:54Speaker 4: to have some sort of like ally or connection to
- 3:56Speaker 4: some damn body to start from to be able to
- 3:58Speaker 4: build a theory, her come up with an idea about
- 4:01Speaker 4: what the hell is going on, So it would served
- 4:04Speaker 4: in will to stick together.
- 4:05Speaker 2: But Lisa Renna said, fuck that.
- 4:08Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I don't give a fuck
- 4:09Speaker 4: where you come from.
- 4:15Speaker 3: When she came into the room.
- 4:18Speaker 1: So obviously you know, the episode opens up, everybody goes
- 4:21Speaker 1: to get breakfast. What I say to you, this show.
- 4:25Speaker 1: And this is me speaking as a producer. This show
- 4:29Speaker 1: is so well produced. I am super impressed with the format.
- 4:35Speaker 1: I'm super impressed with the fact that not only for
- 4:38Speaker 1: the audience, Dustin, but for the cast to all of
- 4:42Speaker 1: us together have the same anticipation about who's going to
- 4:46Speaker 1: walk through the breakfast doors to.
- 4:49Speaker 3: See like who made it from the previous night.
- 4:52Speaker 1: So when Lisa Renna walked in, you know, you had
- 4:55Speaker 1: Ron tell this story about what he saw. He saw,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but what he heard an experience, you know, being blindfolded
- 5:04Speaker 1: because they were trying to say, like, okay, who was
- 5:07Speaker 1: the trader because the Traders were killing a playing sight. Now,
- 5:12Speaker 1: when Lisa Renna walked in, not sure about you, Dustin.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Days of All Lives. Lisa Renna.
- 5:20Speaker 1: She was Bobby on Days of Our Lives. She's a
- 5:22Speaker 1: great actress. When Lisa Renda was asked, so what happened,
- 5:28Speaker 1: She's like, oh, canna get some tea firs. That to me,
- 5:32Speaker 1: to me would have been the red flag because she
- 5:37Speaker 1: could not.
- 5:39Speaker 3: She can't think on the spot. And I was shocked
- 5:41Speaker 3: because she is an actress.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I had higher expectations to this. The Traders is
- 5:46Speaker 4: a game where a person that's an actor or good
- 5:49Speaker 4: at like kind of keeping their game face on. The
- 5:52Speaker 4: shout out to u Letitia from Bell Collector. Remember when
- 5:55Speaker 4: her and Glenn was was going back for you get
- 5:57Speaker 4: your game face on. My game face been on. Remember
- 5:59Speaker 4: that part. That's what we need to put on Traders, Laticia.
- 6:03Speaker 4: But anyway, you know, Paul, Traders, what put Laticia in
- 6:16Speaker 4: some of that Mississippi in the Traders game. But I
- 6:19Speaker 4: think this is a game where you have to it
- 6:21Speaker 4: would serve It seems to me like an actor or
- 6:23Speaker 4: an actress would be served well by their skill set,
- 6:26Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, of keeping their face devoid
- 6:28Speaker 4: of emotion or being able to play into the moment.
- 6:31Speaker 4: So I don't under like you, Carlos. I didn't understand
- 6:33Speaker 4: why Lisa was falling flat like that in the end
- 6:36Speaker 4: the damn breakfast. And she's been doing that ship every
- 6:39Speaker 4: day at the breakfast. It's always too much or over
- 6:41Speaker 4: the top or just a reaction that to me, I
- 6:44Speaker 4: would our clock. I would have been Pete Lisa as
- 6:46Speaker 4: a trailer. As a trailer the jokes right themselves, But nah,
- 6:51Speaker 4: I would have been Pete Lisa as a trader. You
- 6:56Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I would.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Have yes, and we'll we'll get to the where Lisa's
- 7:02Speaker 1: you know, sort of acting or lack thereof, I should say,
- 7:06Speaker 1: it's really causing some people to suspect her. But you know,
- 7:10Speaker 1: you you do talk about the fact that it sort
- 7:13Speaker 1: of is like this.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Unwritten rule where the.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Gamers stick by each other, the housewives stick by each other.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Listen, I thought black people stick by each other.
- 7:28Speaker 2: And what rodn't listen Listen.
- 7:34Speaker 1: That is something that to me really highlighted this episode
- 7:39Speaker 1: in terms.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Of black people. I'm gonna need y'all to have some
- 7:43Speaker 3: sort of solidarity.
- 7:45Speaker 1: I'm gonna need y'all to sort of stick by each other.
- 7:48Speaker 1: I am rooting for the black people. We are disent franchised,
- 7:53Speaker 1: and you guys are doing that at all. As I
- 7:57Speaker 1: sort of saw ron Real continuously trying.
- 8:03Speaker 2: To, you know, go after the black girl, say it.
- 8:06Speaker 4: That's what he was doing, and it didn't make no sense.
- 8:08Speaker 4: And Candace, bless her heart, she trying her best to
- 8:12Speaker 4: hold the black block down. She trying her best even
- 8:15Speaker 4: as a trader man. Candidsy when they be on they
- 8:18Speaker 4: was on the way that they were on Tiffany at
- 8:20Speaker 4: the round table, Candace tried her best to kind of
- 8:22Speaker 4: pivot the energy off of her and put it back
- 8:25Speaker 4: onto Ron.
- 8:26Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Anytime Candace really has been trying to do to stick
- 8:32Speaker 4: to the code as much as she could as a trader.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Respect that, you know what I'm saying. Like she got
- 8:37Speaker 4: in there, she got the heat off of Porsche. You
- 8:39Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, She kind of tried to get
- 8:40Speaker 4: the heat off of Tiffany. Like Candas is doing her
- 8:43Speaker 4: job and Ron for some reason is obsessed with doing
- 8:48Speaker 4: what he's been doing at that round table. I just
- 8:51Speaker 4: put it to you like that, and I do not,
- 8:52Speaker 4: for the life of me, understand why. And as a
- 8:54Speaker 4: comedian myself, I.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Ain't heard one joke yet. Where is the funny shit? Nigga?
- 9:03Speaker 4: You a whole comedian, and you in a castle in
- 9:06Speaker 4: Scotland with a bunch of motherfuckers, you don't know there
- 9:08Speaker 4: is boundless opportunity to make us laugh.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I ain't laugh one time.
- 9:12Speaker 4: I've been rolling my eyes at his ass the whole time.
- 9:16Speaker 3: I have to listen.
- 9:18Speaker 1: He's up there with Michael Rappaport in terms of being
- 9:22Speaker 1: unlikable I and I hate to say this because I
- 9:25Speaker 1: don't know Ron, and I've met him for the first
- 9:27Speaker 1: time watching the show, saying I am annoyed by him
- 9:33Speaker 1: when he talks, when he enters the scene, I find
- 9:39Speaker 1: him and listen, which is good producing, and that's why
- 9:42Speaker 1: it was. It's a great casting job at the casting producers.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Dead Ron gets under.
- 9:48Speaker 1: My skin the way that Purdue Chicken, as you outlined
- 9:53Speaker 1: last week under Michael Rappaport.
- 9:56Speaker 4: Yes, and they got his ass to fuck up out
- 9:58Speaker 4: of there too. They they flat out said, we don't
- 10:01Speaker 4: care if you're a traitor or a faithful We just
- 10:03Speaker 4: want your ass up out of here. So I think
- 10:06Speaker 4: that we were kind of on the beat on the
- 10:08Speaker 4: pulse with our commentary last week about how much we
- 10:11Speaker 4: can't stand his ass. I can't stand Michael re report.
- 10:14Speaker 4: But guess what I'm very happy about. We don't even
- 10:16Speaker 4: have to talk about his ass anymore. So that's what
- 10:19Speaker 4: I'm most happy about. And he's gonna get cussed the
- 10:22Speaker 4: funk out. They're gonna rag tag him at their reunion
- 10:25Speaker 4: and I cannot wait. They're gonna tear his ass up
- 10:28Speaker 4: at the reunion. So we have one more window of
- 10:32Speaker 4: pleasure of seeing him, you know, just being hummeled with
- 10:37Speaker 4: insults and real accusations of shit that he did.
- 10:41Speaker 2: I can't wait.
- 10:42Speaker 4: So but for now, like Candace said, ding dong, okay,
- 10:46Speaker 4: the witch is did gone.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Okay.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So as the episode started, we find out Caroline got murdered.
- 10:55Speaker 3: He asks why. Candace says, you talked too much.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Candace is killing and I thing with Candace is so subtle,
- 11:10Speaker 1: you know, She's like, you talk too much, and that's.
- 11:13Speaker 2: What reason she don't give it. Damn, she ain't never
- 11:15Speaker 2: gave it, damn.
- 11:16Speaker 4: But in this space, it's so beautiful to watch her
- 11:20Speaker 4: be like that because she is a perfect fucking trader, Carlos,
- 11:24Speaker 4: She is a perfect trader. She stood there, she had
- 11:27Speaker 4: her hood on and had her damn lander. She was
- 11:31Speaker 4: holding her landing up. You talk too much, that's.
- 11:35Speaker 2: What she taught her. I was like, yeah, and that's
- 11:39Speaker 2: all it takes.
- 11:41Speaker 3: That's that's all it take. You talk too much. So
- 11:44Speaker 3: Caroline's out of there.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So everybody is at the breakfast and trying to figure out, like, Okay,
- 11:50Speaker 1: which trader that was that killed in plain sight is
- 11:55Speaker 1: going to have a story that matches everyone else Lisa
- 12:00Speaker 1: rent of flops but it doesn't really go anywhere, and
- 12:03Speaker 1: Tiffany is on four people.
- 12:07Speaker 3: She's like, look, I feel like jam jam My go.
- 12:13Speaker 1: And like she said, jam jam.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Michael oh and who was the third one?
- 12:22Speaker 1: Michael tho was those three Cultent thinks it's Tiffany and
- 12:27Speaker 1: Coltent is like Dustin, I am going after Tiffany.
- 12:34Speaker 4: I didn't like that personally. I didn't like that. I
- 12:36Speaker 4: felt like his It's one thing, you know, I'm a
- 12:39Speaker 4: I'm literally a professional ship talker, right, so there's a
- 12:44Speaker 4: science and there's a way of method. There's a nuance
- 12:48Speaker 4: in the way you gotta do that, and I don't care. Sorry,
- 12:51Speaker 4: I did not like seeing him go back and forth
- 12:54Speaker 4: with Tiffany like that. I didn't like that whole Well,
- 12:57Speaker 4: it's your name two fster one. I didn't like none
- 12:59Speaker 4: of that. I'm so I know when gay men are
- 13:01Speaker 4: doing gay men shit. I didn't like that, and I
- 13:04Speaker 4: wanted to cuss Colton out. And I really liked Colton
- 13:07Speaker 4: before that scene when they went after Tiffany like that
- 13:10Speaker 4: in that ballroom. I'm fine with the gameplay. There's no rule,
- 13:13Speaker 4: well there's rules, but there's no rules as far as
- 13:16Speaker 4: you know how to play this game, per se. So
- 13:18Speaker 4: I was alright with it. I just didn't like the
- 13:20Speaker 4: way he did it, and I definitely didn't like his
- 13:22Speaker 4: fucked up ass, pompous, arrogant ass attitude afterwards. Well, oh well,
- 13:26Speaker 4: I'm gonna take shots anyway. Okay, Well then they gonna
- 13:28Speaker 4: take him at too, too. And from the looks at
- 13:30Speaker 4: what happened in episodes of four and five yr, A's
- 13:34Speaker 4: gonna be going hes gonna be a Coke forty five
- 13:36Speaker 4: baby shot out the door.
- 13:37Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 13:38Speaker 4: And next thing we know, right, yeah, and it's of
- 13:42Speaker 4: his own fault, you know what I'm saying, Like, why
- 13:44Speaker 4: are you playing the game like that?
- 13:45Speaker 2: Him?
- 13:45Speaker 3: Man?
- 13:46Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to jump too far ahead, but
- 13:47Speaker 4: it's somebody wise cuss out.
- 13:51Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:58Speaker 1: No, the thing is so he for some reason, he
- 14:01Speaker 1: has eyesell on Tiffany. And listen our recap last week.
- 14:07Speaker 1: You know a lot of the Big Brother fans were like,
- 14:10Speaker 1: Carlos Dustin, Tiffany is that girl?
- 14:13Speaker 3: He is the one to look out for.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Maybe Colton had insight that she's a formidable opponent. So,
- 14:19Speaker 1: like you said, I understand the game because you are
- 14:22Speaker 1: allowed to suspect who you want to. So the first
- 14:25Speaker 1: challenge was the spare game, and you know they're trying
- 14:28Speaker 1: to figure out, like, okay, who are we going to
- 14:33Speaker 1: pretty much put up for murder? Monette tells Candas that
- 14:40Speaker 1: he is suspecting Lisa, and he's onto Lisa. Candace did
- 14:45Speaker 1: the right thing. She's playing the game extremely well. She
- 14:48Speaker 1: gives Lisa Renna a hits up. Now we are rooting
- 14:53Speaker 1: for the black people, but it's still a game, so
- 14:56Speaker 1: you have to sort of decipher like okay, his mother better.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Good of the community or the better good of.
- 15:03Speaker 1: The game of the show so I can get this
- 15:06Speaker 1: money at the end. And I thought Canada did a
- 15:09Speaker 1: great job putting Lisa Renna up on game.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Yep, she walked the line very well because again Candice
- 15:16Speaker 4: did her basket.
- 15:16Speaker 2: As smart as fuck.
- 15:17Speaker 4: She's a smart woman in real life, and she's her
- 15:20Speaker 4: intellect is really carrying her through this game, and she's
- 15:23Speaker 4: making her choices as far as who to talk to
- 15:26Speaker 4: was she's talking.
- 15:26Speaker 2: To them about.
- 15:27Speaker 4: I just I am very very impressive with the way
- 15:30Speaker 4: Candas is playing this game, and that was another example
- 15:33Speaker 4: of her making a great choice.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:36Speaker 1: So at the end the once Upper murders Michael, Tiffany, Lisa, Ron, Monet, Mara, Tara, Johnny,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and Steven Baby, we're now in the war room, okay,
- 15:50Speaker 1: and Colton goes after Tiffany and as somebody who has
- 15:56Speaker 1: produced up until season nine of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Tiffany, come.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Get your batty chain.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I haven't seen a read a drag session so effortlessly
- 16:12Speaker 1: put the way Tiffany drag like. No, like Dustin, you
- 16:18Speaker 1: are comedian, a professional shit talker.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Please explain to.
- 16:23Speaker 1: The range how formidable and smart that you must be
- 16:28Speaker 1: for Tiffany to take what your opponent.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Is saying, take what they're saying, and apply it back
- 16:36Speaker 3: to them. When it came to.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Him and Eric, because Eric said, when I was up
- 16:44Speaker 1: for murder, I heard a laugh and dusted. I really
- 16:48Speaker 1: thought my girl Candy, because Candy's after laughed. Use that, Tiffany,
- 16:54Speaker 1: I'm like, not all black girls sound like.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Go ahead, Dustin, And that's exactly where I went with it,
- 16:59Speaker 4: because did you think it was Tiffany? Why you know
- 17:02Speaker 4: what I'm saying, why did you think that big as
- 17:04Speaker 4: your motherfucking ears are? You should have known to be
- 17:07Speaker 4: and you so, I do music and my ears look
- 17:10Speaker 4: like car doors, and I should be able to hear somebody.
- 17:14Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Nigga, motherfucker Lamborghini ears. You
- 17:17Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. The ears go up. I ain't
- 17:19Speaker 4: never seen nothing like that. How did you know who
- 17:22Speaker 4: that was? Obviously you didn't. And he was so sure,
- 17:26Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that that was Tiffany, and
- 17:28Speaker 4: she just literally said, Okay, I know that they're about
- 17:31Speaker 4: to vote for me, but I'm going to let them
- 17:33Speaker 4: have it on the way out this door. And that's
- 17:35Speaker 4: what she did. She told him, no, I'm smarter than you.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I'm smarter than you. She was clear about that, and
- 17:42Speaker 4: that's what made him get to He felt that that
- 17:45Speaker 4: hit Coulton in his male ego, and so he got
- 17:48Speaker 4: to a nasty the clause the press ons came.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Out, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:53Speaker 4: So and so that's that's what happened, and so he
- 17:58Speaker 4: literally said what he said, but it was too late
- 18:00Speaker 4: because Tiffany had so eloquently eviscerated him with a few
- 18:04Speaker 4: words too, packed him up and packed jam Jam up
- 18:07Speaker 4: real quick.
- 18:08Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking to you.
- 18:13Speaker 4: That's not something you can teach someone either, as we've
- 18:16Speaker 4: seen with multiple people. We've been talking about these shows
- 18:19Speaker 4: for years. Y'all know how many and Cargos feel about
- 18:21Speaker 4: people who are quick on their feet, who can think
- 18:24Speaker 4: fast and know how to do callbacks and use wordplay
- 18:29Speaker 4: in a way that is fascinating.
- 18:31Speaker 2: And Tiffany's one of the old school. She's just got it.
- 18:34Speaker 4: She's got that that thing that you have to have
- 18:37Speaker 4: to be able to do what she did at that roundtable,
- 18:39Speaker 4: because everyone can't. That's why a lot of people be
- 18:42Speaker 4: writing lines you know what I'm saying about stuff pizza
- 18:45Speaker 4: box and stuff like that that y'all still repeat, but
- 18:47Speaker 4: they're written and you can always tell.
- 18:49Speaker 2: The difference between the two.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Since we talked about Traders, it ties in Righters family
- 19:00Speaker 4: Traders alone.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Oh my fan, that wall was for you. Okay, No,
- 19:18Speaker 3: what Eric said?
- 19:20Speaker 1: The thing about Eric, you listen, Eric was so convinced
- 19:26Speaker 1: that he was right when he was like, look, I'm
- 19:29Speaker 1: a songwriter, I have good ears and Tiffany says, you
- 19:33Speaker 1: might kneel another career.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Hello, tore him up, tore him up. Tiffany, let me,
- 19:38Speaker 4: let's we could take it back for just a second
- 19:41Speaker 4: to the challenge when they were when they were burning
- 19:43Speaker 4: them shields and putting them spears in those things, and
- 19:46Speaker 4: when they said Tiffany's name.
- 19:49Speaker 2: This was a very black episode. Cars.
- 19:51Speaker 4: This is probably the blackest episode of the season so far,
- 19:54Speaker 4: because Tiffany and Candice was on that the whole episode
- 19:56Speaker 4: when Tiffany I wrote it in my notes when they
- 19:59Speaker 4: burned tiffany ship, but Tiffany was acting black as hell
- 20:02Speaker 4: when they burn her shield, I.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Know the fuck they didn't who y'all unchilled? She was
- 20:09Speaker 2: and it was natural. That was natural, man.
- 20:12Speaker 3: But that's a reaction.
- 20:15Speaker 4: Had me rolling man, her and her She had me
- 20:18Speaker 4: rolling jam.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Jam crying when they burnt his shield was ridiculous. I'm
- 20:23Speaker 2: gonna get killed. It's just literally broken. I'm like, what
- 20:25Speaker 2: the fuck is wrong with Jam? Jam? Is it? Look?
- 20:28Speaker 2: Is it the alstitude? What's wrong with this motherfucker?
- 20:35Speaker 1: Man?
- 20:36Speaker 2: Like, why is he crying like a basket case out here?
- 20:39Speaker 2: Because he's like, what it up? Man? So that was funny.
- 20:43Speaker 4: And then one other really black moment that happened in
- 20:46Speaker 4: episode far they had me rolling.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Was when they first got the castle and they.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Was all in the kitchen trying to talk and Candice
- 20:54Speaker 4: literally bust in the door.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Don't be closing the doors up in here?
- 20:58Speaker 3: What's that?
- 21:06Speaker 4: I said, Okay, this that.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Not only listen.
- 21:15Speaker 1: The beauty of this too is I feel like perhaps
- 21:18Speaker 1: you and I and baby there was some black people
- 21:21Speaker 1: really understood that moment with us through that kitchen because listen,
- 21:26Speaker 1: growing up black as a child, you're not allowed to
- 21:30Speaker 1: close your bedroom door. No, yes, well you and your
- 21:35Speaker 1: mama ain't knocking on your door before she walks in
- 21:37Speaker 1: that motherfucker.
- 21:38Speaker 4: No no, and don't be within the You can't be
- 21:41Speaker 4: in the radio said that swing because you will get
- 21:43Speaker 4: hit with that door when they come in forcefully like that.
- 21:46Speaker 4: And Kandicen had a baby, you know, so her black
- 21:48Speaker 4: mama instincts on ten right now she opened that mother,
- 21:53Speaker 4: don't be closing no doors up in here with you.
- 21:55Speaker 4: Other I said, I love Candy on this show.
- 22:02Speaker 2: On this show.
- 22:03Speaker 3: No, she's good. Listen, Kevin's good.
- 22:06Speaker 2: I can't get enough, bro, I.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Can't get enough either, Like I said, her outfite the
- 22:11Speaker 1: people that she wore stocking.
- 22:13Speaker 3: She's just she is, she's she's it. She really did it.
- 22:19Speaker 3: But that was a good moment.
- 22:21Speaker 1: My favorite moment from Tiffany speaking of another black woman,
- 22:24Speaker 1: I mean black.
- 22:24Speaker 3: Moment is with.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Like you said, when Colton said, is it to f Tiffany?
- 22:31Speaker 1: And she goes, Tiffany like.
- 22:33Speaker 2: The company right right, right, right right? And he know
- 22:39Speaker 2: what that is.
- 22:39Speaker 4: He was on The Bachelor, you know about wedding jewelry,
- 22:42Speaker 4: so okay, you know exactly what Tiffany she was talking about.
- 22:45Speaker 4: She tore him up because he thought that was cute,
- 22:47Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He thought he had one
- 22:49Speaker 4: in the chambers or one half.
- 22:53Speaker 3: What?
- 22:54Speaker 4: And then the whole time Colton was the whole time
- 22:56Speaker 4: I got to take my glasses off of this one.
- 22:59Speaker 2: The whole time Colton.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Was in the the round table having that conversation trying
- 23:04Speaker 4: to banish Tiffany, he was looking like he.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Was in the eye doctor looking at that thing. We
- 23:08Speaker 2: gotta read that. It's a two extra one. What he
- 23:18Speaker 2: was doing. I was like, what is this motherfucker guy?
- 23:22Speaker 2: What's in his eyes? You know what I'm saying? Why
- 23:24Speaker 2: is his eyes like that? Yeah? He was like stuck
- 23:29Speaker 2: in it.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Was surprise.
- 23:33Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it was like, what is wrong
- 23:36Speaker 2: with you?
- 23:36Speaker 1: Man? You could tell best and and for me, Tiffany
- 23:45Speaker 1: really did a fantastic job. And you could tell those
- 23:48Speaker 1: boys were afraid of her.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:50Speaker 3: And what I did not like was the gang up.
- 23:54Speaker 1: We'll get to the voting in a second, because I
- 23:56Speaker 1: have some bones and picking people, but you could tell
- 24:01Speaker 1: they were intimidated by Tiffany and all of her blackness
- 24:06Speaker 1: and how strong she is and how self assure she is,
- 24:11Speaker 1: and to the point where for me, if I never
- 24:15Speaker 1: I never met Tiffany, So if I'm at the table, yes,
- 24:19Speaker 1: I would be like, well, Eric does sound convincing. But
- 24:22Speaker 1: there's something about Tiffany that, unless she went to the
- 24:27Speaker 1: Angela Bassett school of acting, her passion for being like
- 24:33Speaker 1: it's not me, I would have believed her. And I
- 24:36Speaker 1: think that's why Candace, who obviously knows she's not a trader,
- 24:40Speaker 1: when she talked about needing the money for her son
- 24:44Speaker 1: and how it's bigger than just a game like she's
- 24:47Speaker 1: trying to she wants the money and she's very honest
- 24:51Speaker 1: about it. And I thought for me when Candas said, look,
- 24:55Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cry.
- 24:57Speaker 3: That to me showed you like, look, you could be
- 25:00Speaker 3: in and for the game.
- 25:01Speaker 1: You could be in a to win, but at some
- 25:03Speaker 1: point in this game you do have to have some
- 25:06Speaker 1: sort of heart and show you humanity. And I thought
- 25:10Speaker 1: Candice did a fantastic job of being like, I'm seeing
- 25:13Speaker 1: this black woman who's a single mom crying and I
- 25:17Speaker 1: know she's not the trader, and I'd rather get Ron
- 25:21Speaker 1: asked out of here anyway, let me have her back.
- 25:25Speaker 3: And I was very.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Disappointed and the other people of color on that panel
- 25:31Speaker 1: to not have a little bit of heart to be like,
- 25:35Speaker 1: we were wrong before. I would rather be wrong for
- 25:39Speaker 1: this because she's giving such a compassion speech.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes me want to know some questions because again,
- 25:45Speaker 4: that's something that instinctually we just wouldn't move like that
- 25:49Speaker 4: in that sort of space, And so it makes you
- 25:51Speaker 4: wonder what the disconnect is.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I'm sick of looking at Ron. You know, it was
- 25:55Speaker 2: cool to have.
- 25:57Speaker 4: Somebody in there that was throwing shit off and mixing
- 25:59Speaker 4: things up, making, you know, fumbling around, making mistakes. But
- 26:03Speaker 4: I'm sick of him now sauntering around that house like that,
- 26:06Speaker 4: feet dragging the motherfucking floor every time he's walking through
- 26:09Speaker 4: the house, his shoes making that shuffling noise, leaned over,
- 26:13Speaker 4: k never stand up straight, always fucking shoulders in front
- 26:17Speaker 4: of him. He's staying with his shoulders in front of
- 26:19Speaker 4: him like this. He pulled his shoulders like this every
- 26:21Speaker 4: time to walk in and he sit out and shit,
- 26:24Speaker 4: surly Sully attitude always in there, got a goddamn problem
- 26:28Speaker 4: about every motherfucking thing. Every time you see him sitting
- 26:31Speaker 4: in there talking about what, yeah, my FAM's not ninety
- 26:33Speaker 4: your fucking business, nigga, Derinda was trying to be nice
- 26:36Speaker 4: to you and just extended olive branch. You weird, though
- 26:39Speaker 4: it's not her fault. You don't know how to talk
- 26:41Speaker 4: to no goddamn body. You're sitting up in the house
- 26:43Speaker 4: biting your fingernails down to the cuticles every night talking
- 26:46Speaker 4: about who don't know already want to be around you.
- 26:48Speaker 4: Or maybe if he was more likable, bro, maybe if
- 26:51Speaker 4: you had energy that made people want to have a
- 26:53Speaker 4: conversation with you or play checkers or whatever the fuck
- 26:56Speaker 4: they're doing up in the castle. Socially, you know what
- 26:58Speaker 4: I'm saying. You need to get in there and get
- 27:00Speaker 4: in that mix so that you can form those bonds
- 27:02Speaker 4: and relationships. To me, it was unfair, unfair for him
- 27:06Speaker 4: to lean on his made up idea that you know,
- 27:10Speaker 4: there's this other I'm just not a part of the consensus.
- 27:13Speaker 4: He's one of the motherfuckers that likes to other themselves
- 27:15Speaker 4: and then act like they've been wrong by everybody else.
- 27:19Speaker 2: That's what he is.
- 27:21Speaker 4: He's one of those people, and nobody did nothing to him.
- 27:24Speaker 4: In fact, he's been in there doing something to everybody
- 27:26Speaker 4: else from the day he got in there. I'm so
- 27:28Speaker 4: sick of Ron. I'm sick of him. But then Belted
- 27:31Speaker 4: Coats sick of him, I am.
- 27:41Speaker 1: And so it's tap for I can't think.
- 27:46Speaker 3: I can't think that's that. It's tap for voting, and.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Canvas is the only black person that half Tiffany's back
- 27:56Speaker 1: Monette voted are out.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Uh, we all know Ron was gonna do us.
- 28:01Speaker 1: So that was no surprise, And it was just sad
- 28:05Speaker 1: to see how everybody was convinced due to Eric hearing
- 28:12Speaker 1: this is one thing.
- 28:14Speaker 3: It's one thing to hear a voice.
- 28:17Speaker 2: I laugh is different low.
- 28:19Speaker 3: A laugh is very different.
- 28:21Speaker 1: So to be so convinced that you heard Tiffany's laugh
- 28:25Speaker 1: and this is no shade to Tiffany because I love
- 28:27Speaker 1: Tiffany down, said you, Timmy, I'm wrong.
- 28:30Speaker 3: I haven't heard Tiffany laugh once, not one time.
- 28:33Speaker 2: That's what the Carlos.
- 28:34Speaker 4: You took the words out of my mouth, brother, because
- 28:37Speaker 4: number one, I haven't seen Tiffany and Eric in a
- 28:41Speaker 4: joking moment laughing. How do he even know how she laughs?
- 28:44Speaker 2: How? How do you know?
- 28:46Speaker 4: And of all that shit y'all in the woods in Scotland,
- 28:48Speaker 4: on them owls and shit hooting and snakes slithering and
- 28:52Speaker 4: shit and wear wolves and whatever the fuck else is
- 28:55Speaker 4: out there in the woods, and you heard Tiffany's laugh.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Come on, man, I thought to me, that just felt
- 29:01Speaker 4: what you like? What what you're trying to say right now?
- 29:03Speaker 2: Bro?
- 29:04Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 29:04Speaker 1: And the thing is also this the only one that
- 29:08Speaker 1: really laughs out of the Traders.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Is Lisa Rena.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Yeah, so again I thought, and listen, y'all, Saip we're
- 29:15Speaker 1: talking about There was definitely something extra going on this
- 29:19Speaker 1: episode when it came to like, look, it gave very
- 29:23Speaker 1: much horror movie get the Black people out.
- 29:26Speaker 3: At the beginning.
- 29:28Speaker 1: It gave get out, Candace, watch your back. They want
- 29:31Speaker 1: the black folks out.
- 29:32Speaker 4: That's that's what it looked like to me, even the
- 29:34Speaker 4: black folks want the black folks out. Ron Money and Monette,
- 29:38Speaker 4: you really Monet really surprised me because Monet had been
- 29:41Speaker 4: playing really good.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Again, it's a game.
- 29:44Speaker 4: These people literally have nothing to work with, so you
- 29:47Speaker 4: have to come up with something to give you, like
- 29:48Speaker 4: a hunch or a feeling that someone is a trader
- 29:51Speaker 4: or whatever, unless they just make a sloppy mistake. But
- 29:54Speaker 4: Tiffany didn't make no sloppy mistakes. And Monette, it's a
- 29:57Speaker 4: certain time where you got to stick to the code.
- 29:59Speaker 4: And you know that Monee, as a person who is
- 30:02Speaker 4: different from everybody else and who has had to make
- 30:04Speaker 4: their way in spaces that were not designed to support
- 30:09Speaker 4: them being there, you understand what that's like. And I
- 30:12Speaker 4: can't understand how y'all abandon that for the sake of
- 30:14Speaker 4: a game. Now, it is a game, So let's be
- 30:17Speaker 4: clear about that. It's a game, and people got to
- 30:20Speaker 4: win and lose, and that's just the way it goes.
- 30:22Speaker 2: That's a part of what you sign up for when
- 30:24Speaker 2: you sign up for this show.
- 30:26Speaker 4: But that being said, as a contestant, like, there's still
- 30:29Speaker 4: a social game that has to be played and the
- 30:32Speaker 4: rules of engagement will have a lot to do with
- 30:36Speaker 4: how you're received by viewers of the show.
- 30:39Speaker 1: So yes, and I also feel like, listen, one thing
- 30:44Speaker 1: about Tiffany that I've learned from the rain drops telling
- 30:48Speaker 1: me who she is. I heard about this cookout that
- 30:51Speaker 1: Big so apparently Tiffany was the leader of the pack
- 30:57Speaker 1: when it cames to the black people on Big Other
- 31:00Speaker 1: coming together in solidarity to sort of win the game.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Yes, only one person can can win, but it was
- 31:06Speaker 3: sort of.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Like I I'd rather play a game to where I know, like, look,
- 31:13Speaker 1: let's have each other's back, because to me, it's sweeter
- 31:16Speaker 1: in the end.
- 31:16Speaker 3: If one of them gets one of a getting Yeah, and.
- 31:19Speaker 1: I was surprised with Monette. I love him on BRU
- 31:22Speaker 1: Paul's drag braids. He definitely highlights a lot of black
- 31:25Speaker 1: women with his with his drag on the show. But
- 31:31Speaker 1: when I saw those many people vote her out again,
- 31:38Speaker 1: not to Cotnini Leaks and Dustin Bross again, it was
- 31:41Speaker 1: very suspect.
- 31:43Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that, very suspect. Yes, it was Carlos.
- 31:47Speaker 3: It was suspect.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I expect to get emotional watching Traders at all her
- 31:54Speaker 1: Tiffany getting voted off and crying, Yeah, your boy lost it.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Yeah it was a lot. I lost it. It was a lot.
- 32:04Speaker 4: I just wish she would not have made the statement
- 32:06Speaker 4: about how she wanted to win the money for her son,
- 32:09Speaker 4: because they did what they was gonna do anyway, and
- 32:12Speaker 4: that adds in, like the cruelty. I just wish that
- 32:15Speaker 4: she would not have even offered that up because I
- 32:17Speaker 4: knew it wasn't gonna be something that would convince them
- 32:19Speaker 4: or sway their vote, And I hated that they were
- 32:22Speaker 4: able to play on that. She gave them that vulnerability
- 32:25Speaker 4: and they were able to play on it, and that
- 32:26Speaker 4: pissed me off. That never is a good strategy to me.
- 32:28Speaker 4: Y'all I need is money for my kid. I don't
- 32:31Speaker 4: think that's ever a good strategy in these competition in
- 32:33Speaker 4: reality show games like that, because everybody and his motherfucker
- 32:36Speaker 4: want to win, you know what I'm saying, for whatever
- 32:38Speaker 4: reasons they had. And I hated that she did that
- 32:41Speaker 4: because it just was not a It wasn't a smart
- 32:44Speaker 4: choice to me because it wouldn't help sway it one
- 32:47Speaker 4: way or the other.
- 32:48Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I actually agree with you with that,
- 32:51Speaker 1: And that's why I keep going back to Candace is
- 32:53Speaker 1: playing the game right because she's consistent. And again I'm
- 32:59Speaker 1: a newbie to this, but I feel like everybody around
- 33:03Speaker 1: her and obviously each other, they are looking for inconsistencies. Yeah, yeah,
- 33:09Speaker 1: And I feel like because she remains herself and she
- 33:13Speaker 1: has been very honest, I found everybody, Ron, I am
- 33:17Speaker 1: trying to get you out as motherfucker, and my opinion
- 33:20Speaker 1: is not gonna sway. So everybody knows when it comes
- 33:23Speaker 1: to Canvas, Candace's goal is to give Ron out, and
- 33:27Speaker 1: I think that's.
- 33:27Speaker 3: The reason why people aren't seeing her as a trader.
- 33:33Speaker 4: And if I'm being real, sometimes Candace's countenance betrays her.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Sometimes her facial expressions betray her. There's been a couple
- 33:42Speaker 4: of moments where people have asked questions that will maybe
- 33:49Speaker 4: raise some suspicion in her direction, and I've seen Candace
- 33:52Speaker 4: go like or like or like people ask the question
- 33:55Speaker 4: that she'll go, you know, And I think some of
- 33:59Speaker 4: that is for TV because she knows the cameras are on.
- 34:01Speaker 4: But I also think some of that changing her facial
- 34:04Speaker 4: expression like that can tip off some of the other contestants.
- 34:07Speaker 2: So she gotta watch.
- 34:08Speaker 4: That she does good in the moment to me when
- 34:11Speaker 4: she has to lie in stuff. But it's just the initial,
- 34:15Speaker 4: you know, asking of the questions that sometimes throws her
- 34:19Speaker 4: off her game a little bit, just in her face.
- 34:21Speaker 4: It's never her posture, it's never like a it's just
- 34:24Speaker 4: in her face. Sometimes she'll be like, you know, I
- 34:29Speaker 4: see it. It goes straight to the camera.
- 34:31Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point. That's a
- 34:34Speaker 3: good point.
- 34:35Speaker 1: So we see that after Tiffany gets voted off, the
- 34:42Speaker 1: Traders are back in their own world Lisa, Rob and Candace,
- 34:49Speaker 1: and that's when Candace, of course informs Lisa that Monaya's
- 34:52Speaker 1: onto you, and Lisa is surprised by it and she's like,
- 34:57Speaker 1: all right, well we need to so we need to
- 35:01Speaker 1: murder him, and unfortunately Monet gets murdered. Dustin, do you
- 35:08Speaker 1: think that was smart of the Traders to get rid
- 35:12Speaker 1: of Monette so early?
- 35:13Speaker 2: Hell?
- 35:14Speaker 4: Yeah, ship the first first person sniffing around this door.
- 35:18Speaker 4: You got to go flat out, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:21Speaker 4: You know, you can't give them time to talk to
- 35:24Speaker 4: the other contestants and create the suspicions and make it
- 35:28Speaker 4: snowball into something bigger. Now, you got to cut that
- 35:30Speaker 4: problem out at the root. Okay, since we're talking about
- 35:33Speaker 4: black stuff at the writ so you know what I'm saying,
- 35:38Speaker 4: Like he had to go. I totally understood that seeing money,
- 35:42Speaker 4: and I have really been enjoying Monet on the show.
- 35:44Speaker 4: So I hated to see Monet get murdered.
- 35:46Speaker 2: But it was time.
- 35:48Speaker 3: Me too, Me too, Me too, No, it was time.
- 35:50Speaker 1: And listen, I've been enjoying his passions and he's very
- 35:53Speaker 1: the people Monette, He's very likable. But I feel bad
- 35:58Speaker 1: for Monette too because we're talking about solidarity. And he
- 36:01Speaker 1: did tell his sister Canvas who he is suspecting.
- 36:05Speaker 3: But Canvas had to do the right thing. Like you said, if.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Someone is sniffing at the front door, they got to go.
- 36:12Speaker 1: So Monet's olivert. They're playing another game at this point,
- 36:20Speaker 1: your boy Ron. He thinks the traders are Michael and Dorenda.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Once again, loud and wrong and dumb.
- 36:31Speaker 4: Once again, always gotta he has just mister bad ideas,
- 36:34Speaker 4: ain't he? Every time you open this goddamn mouth, it's
- 36:37Speaker 4: another bad idea during da every every time, man, like, bro,
- 36:44Speaker 4: are you even trying to put any of this shit together?
- 36:47Speaker 4: You just be loud and wrong every fucking time, Like,
- 36:51Speaker 4: come on, Ron, the Porsche thing. Okay, what did I
- 36:56Speaker 4: agree with him putting her up for elimination? No, but
- 36:59Speaker 4: I did understand why because Porsche had literally.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Handed him her gameplay on a platter. This time.
- 37:06Speaker 4: You just flat out wrong all the way off, you
- 37:10Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
- 37:11Speaker 2: And I just it's just embarrassing. Man, Damn.
- 37:15Speaker 3: What is his strategy? You think? Because when he when
- 37:19Speaker 3: he brings up these names, he.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Look.
- 37:24Speaker 1: I watched the show too, and basically what I'm seeing,
- 37:26Speaker 1: I feel like he never has a very specific reason
- 37:31Speaker 1: as to why he thinks that that makes sense.
- 37:34Speaker 3: The Porsche think.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Okay, fine, we know Porscha not to be able to
- 37:37Speaker 1: articule herself.
- 37:38Speaker 3: Well, fine, got that.
- 37:41Speaker 1: But for the past, like a couple of episodes after Porsche,
- 37:45Speaker 1: I do feel like he's just throwing names out too.
- 37:47Speaker 4: I think he goes up in that room at night
- 37:50Speaker 4: after everybody did, and I think he'd be up in
- 37:53Speaker 4: there eating boogers with that notepad and a pin and
- 37:56Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, thinking about everybody he can't stand.
- 37:59Speaker 2: And I think he got a head list. I think
- 38:01Speaker 2: he got a hell list. Who's the people that tonight tonight, angsty.
- 38:05Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 38:06Speaker 4: He wanted them motherfuckers, them jumping around underneath the bridge, motherfuckers.
- 38:10Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's that's one of him. Man.
- 38:12Speaker 4: He's an emo, He's an emo comedian. So I really
- 38:15Speaker 4: think he'd be up in that room, man biting his
- 38:17Speaker 4: cuticles and ship like this, thinking on who he's gonna kill,
- 38:21Speaker 4: hung and get time, hunging, get funtion the time.
- 38:26Speaker 2: During that every time. I think that's what it is. Man.
- 38:28Speaker 4: He wanted them motherfuckers, man, and you can tell, and
- 38:30Speaker 4: his ass got to go.
- 38:32Speaker 2: It's time, man, Ron gotta go.
- 38:35Speaker 3: You're want to be right, he's his boogers.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Yeah, eating buggers and shit, wearing a leather bracelet with
- 38:42Speaker 4: Stever studs.
- 38:43Speaker 2: On it and ship tonight tonight. You wanted them motherfuckers, man.
- 38:46Speaker 2: You know that's what he is. Man. Sick of Ron Dog,
- 38:50Speaker 2: I'm sick of Man. He gotta go, he gotta go.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Something. What have you thought from? Okay?
- 39:04Speaker 1: All right, so your boy Michael Rapper part the definition
- 39:11Speaker 1: of unhinged.
- 39:12Speaker 3: This is before the warrobe. I don't listen. I don't know.
- 39:17Speaker 1: If they pat the cast down before they go to
- 39:22Speaker 1: the house, if there is a sniffing dog that sniffs
- 39:26Speaker 1: the suitcase.
- 39:28Speaker 3: Michael appears to be on something. I don't know what
- 39:30Speaker 3: it is.
- 39:30Speaker 1: I'm not accusing of nothing, allegedly, allegedly the unhinged attitude
- 39:37Speaker 1: that he has. And again, this is way before we
- 39:40Speaker 1: get into the warm room where they obviously are trying
- 39:43Speaker 1: to vote someone off. He is going off on Colton,
- 39:47Speaker 1: calling him a trader, and he's just.
- 39:52Speaker 3: He's basshit crazy.
- 39:54Speaker 2: He absolutely is.
- 39:55Speaker 4: And well, let me tell you what, Michael Rapperport is
- 39:58Speaker 4: right if you pay attention to the way he been
- 40:00Speaker 4: saying since he's we'll just stick with the traders, right
- 40:04Speaker 4: on the traders. In his interview scenes, anytime he's talking
- 40:08Speaker 4: to the other people he's not in the confrontation. He
- 40:12Speaker 4: has a incessant need to purport himself as a tough
- 40:18Speaker 4: guy that comes from the bricks. And you know what
- 40:21Speaker 4: I'm saying, he really wants us to believe. Yeah, you know,
- 40:24Speaker 4: I'm from New York City and you had to be tough,
- 40:26Speaker 4: and you know, I'm just a fighter.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I just got it in me.
- 40:29Speaker 4: I'm just one of those guys. Man, I'm gonna talk
- 40:31Speaker 4: come back at you, and you're gonna come back at you.
- 40:34Speaker 4: And he does all of that shit. That's his whole thing.
- 40:37Speaker 4: He likes cosplaying as a tough urban character, and he
- 40:41Speaker 4: seems to be obsessed with like urban black culture and
- 40:45Speaker 4: like people having stories from you know, rougher upbringings and
- 40:49Speaker 4: shit and earning their stripes, so to speak. He's obsessed
- 40:52Speaker 4: with that and he wants that, so he's trying to
- 40:54Speaker 4: cosplay as that.
- 40:56Speaker 2: And you can tell. You can tell when he's.
- 40:58Speaker 4: In arguments with people the an aa ve that he
- 41:01Speaker 4: tries to use all the time and that he uses incorrectly,
- 41:05Speaker 4: which is so funny because typically white people that try
- 41:08Speaker 4: to do that, they always fuck it up.
- 41:09Speaker 2: And came speaking off beat, you know what I'm saying,
- 41:12Speaker 2: like he was doing. You're trying to put together another bullshit.
- 41:19Speaker 4: What that doesn't even make sense, Like you don't even
- 41:22Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. So just stop just be yourself, man,
- 41:26Speaker 4: Which is too late because he's old as a heel now,
- 41:28Speaker 4: so like, but if he, if he would just learn
- 41:32Speaker 4: how to just be himself and stop trying to be
- 41:34Speaker 4: a fucking rapper or a housewife or whatever else he's
- 41:37Speaker 4: obsessed with.
- 41:38Speaker 2: At the time.
- 41:38Speaker 4: He's one of those people that pays attention to whatever, like.
- 41:42Speaker 2: The trending you know, yeah.
- 41:45Speaker 4: Words that people are using at the time and shit,
- 41:48Speaker 4: and he tries to put him in his vocabulary and
- 41:50Speaker 4: it sounds so out of place. Motherfucker. You don't talk
- 41:53Speaker 4: like that. Nobody actually talks like that because you're doing
- 41:55Speaker 4: it wrong.
- 41:56Speaker 2: You know. I'm not gonna go too deep.
- 41:58Speaker 4: But that's who he is, and it does not serve
- 42:02Speaker 4: him well as he can see because even in his exit.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Interview, which was ridiculous of itself, but.
- 42:07Speaker 4: Even in his ex interview, he was like, maybe no,
- 42:10Speaker 4: I played too hard and pushed too far.
- 42:13Speaker 2: I just went too far with that's you know, him
- 42:15Speaker 2: just got to be who I am. And he's one
- 42:17Speaker 2: of those people.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Man.
- 42:18Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not real.
- 42:23Speaker 1: One of the biggest controversial things that happens episode, so
- 42:29Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty much Coulton versus Michael, and Michael
- 42:34Speaker 1: obviously is fighting for his life. He doesn't have becompassion
- 42:40Speaker 1: that a Tiffany had when she was fighting for her life.
- 42:43Speaker 1: He made a comment Dust and I'd love to get
- 42:45Speaker 1: her thoughts on it. Social media split on this. He
- 42:49Speaker 1: made a comment as he and Colton have going back
- 42:51Speaker 1: and forth about, well, you have a history of keeping secrets,
- 42:57Speaker 1: so that's what would make you a good trader.
- 43:00Speaker 3: Colton said, you are.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Talking about my sexuality because rain jobs nout ship.
- 43:06Speaker 2: You know this.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Coulton was on The Bachelor as a straight man and.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Who was the contestants? Man? Was it? Was it? The season?
- 43:27Speaker 2: Was it? The season of everybody was?
- 43:30Speaker 4: Did they had them traders blindfolds on this on that show?
- 43:34Speaker 2: Too?
- 43:34Speaker 1: What?
- 43:35Speaker 2: Like? Like, how didn't you know? That's all I want
- 43:37Speaker 2: to know, man, how did he pull that one off? How?
- 43:42Speaker 2: Because what you mean you won't hear today the woman Coulton,
- 43:46Speaker 2: your name Coulton that that alone? You know what I'm saying.
- 43:52Speaker 3: You are.
- 43:58Speaker 2: I digress?
- 44:00Speaker 4: Where is Michael Rappaport saying that they was in an argument?
- 44:03Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 44:04Speaker 4: And I didn't He didn't call him a fag or
- 44:06Speaker 4: I'm sure I have to beat that. But he didn't
- 44:08Speaker 4: call him, like you know what I'm saying, no names
- 44:10Speaker 4: like that. He just said what he said. And he
- 44:12Speaker 4: did allude to him keeping the secret of his sexual
- 44:15Speaker 4: or he did allude to there being a change in
- 44:19Speaker 4: his sexual trajectory.
- 44:21Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He did allude to that,
- 44:24Speaker 2: and I wish he would have just stood in it.
- 44:25Speaker 2: He did.
- 44:26Speaker 4: He should have just said it, like, well, coachd we
- 44:29Speaker 4: know that for a long time. You know, you were
- 44:31Speaker 4: living one way and then surprise, surprise, here you come
- 44:35Speaker 4: out and now you're a gay man. So maybe there
- 44:37Speaker 4: is some possibility there for you to keep a secret.
- 44:39Speaker 2: We don't know. That's all he had to say. Yeah,
- 44:43Speaker 2: you know what.
- 44:43Speaker 3: I'm saying, Man, I didn't. I didn't.
- 44:45Speaker 1: It took listen when he said it, this is again
- 44:48Speaker 1: I'm alone in this. I didn't see it that way
- 44:50Speaker 1: when he said that, I did. I didn't see them
- 44:54Speaker 1: til people started saying it, and then I have to rewind.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Then I said, oh, and then but obviously at the
- 45:00Speaker 1: time he was apologizing in the interviews, but honest saying
- 45:04Speaker 1: the moment he said it, I didn't clock it because
- 45:07Speaker 1: I guess for me, I couldn't stomach the.
- 45:09Speaker 3: Both of them anyway.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
- 45:13Speaker 3: I at the time did not take it that way.
- 45:17Speaker 3: That's all I want to know. If you plocked it immediately.
- 45:21Speaker 4: Absolutely, I have a sixth sense when it comes to
- 45:23Speaker 4: any sort of homophobia, racism, microaggression.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Shit like that. I pick up on it really fast.
- 45:29Speaker 4: And also I expected that's the thing, like, yeah, he was,
- 45:32Speaker 4: he was wrong hisself for saying it. I'm not about
- 45:35Speaker 4: to cape for colding. We'll say, is you know what
- 45:39Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, that's what it was. And I wish
- 45:41Speaker 4: Michael's rappaport would have just stood it. And of course
- 45:43Speaker 4: he's a lion, no good motherfucker, so we knew he
- 45:46Speaker 4: wasn't gonna stand it and and just say that's what
- 45:48Speaker 4: he meant. But that's one hundred percent what he was
- 45:51Speaker 4: talking about. And it was what you call a nasty
- 45:53Speaker 4: you know, a nasty read. That's what that was in
- 45:56Speaker 4: that argument. But it definitely was rooted in homophobia. And
- 46:00Speaker 4: it wasn't thinly veiled either, it just was what it was.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Was I offended by it, nah, number one.
- 46:07Speaker 4: Because I don't care what he say to Culton, to
- 46:09Speaker 4: be honest with you, to let them host fight. But
- 46:12Speaker 4: beyond that, I expected, you know what I'm saying. I
- 46:16Speaker 4: expect you if you know I'm gay and we arguing
- 46:18Speaker 4: or whatever, I'm not gonna be caught off guard by
- 46:20Speaker 4: you saying something homophobic to me.
- 46:22Speaker 2: That don't make what you're saying.
- 46:23Speaker 4: Okay, but I know you're gonna do that, so I'm
- 46:26Speaker 4: already gonna come back twenty times harder on you, you
- 46:29Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I wasn't surprised. It was
- 46:31Speaker 4: actually a lazy play. To me, I was like, oh
- 46:33Speaker 4: about time. I knew you was gonna do it eventually, So.
- 46:38Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 46:39Speaker 1: And if you think about the character of who Michael Rappaport
- 46:42Speaker 1: has shown himself to be attacking black women, and then
- 46:46Speaker 1: you know, saying something alluded to alluding to Colton's sexuality
- 46:51Speaker 1: or just being upfront about it, and I did feel
- 46:54Speaker 1: like the reasons why in his exit interview, I like
- 46:58Speaker 1: to call it, he tried to, of course desynthesize what
- 47:03Speaker 1: he said because he knew that the backlash was going
- 47:06Speaker 1: to happen the moment that episode was going to be aired.
- 47:11Speaker 1: And now that we are talking about it, like I said,
- 47:15Speaker 1: me being honest, when he said the comment, I didn't
- 47:17Speaker 1: see anything because I wasn't paying attention, maybe until everybody
- 47:22Speaker 1: at the table started talking about it. Then I'm like,
- 47:25Speaker 1: let me rewind it. Okay, that's the part, and then
- 47:27Speaker 1: it reminded me. Not sure, if you know this dustin.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Last week, Michael Rappaport was going off on a lot
- 47:35Speaker 1: of gay people on Twitter.
- 47:38Speaker 3: No on TikTok. Do you know about this?
- 47:40Speaker 2: No?
- 47:41Speaker 1: Oh, I'll send it to you. So listen, last week
- 47:46Speaker 1: you and I included and at the rest of the world,
- 47:48Speaker 1: not just the gays. The world was reading him, even Portie.
- 47:54Speaker 1: He would comment on gay content creators pages and say.
- 48:02Speaker 3: Whatever girl, capital G I R L.
- 48:07Speaker 1: He even referred to someone's pronounce as day when when
- 48:11Speaker 1: they haven't even said what they are because they're common traders,
- 48:15Speaker 1: and how much they dislike him.
- 48:17Speaker 3: He said, okay, day, I guess you mad day.
- 48:20Speaker 1: So again, once I started to remember what he said
- 48:24Speaker 1: last week, that's when I said.
- 48:26Speaker 3: Oh shit, this motherfucker was something homophobic.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Because his behavior last week on TikTok. He was calling
- 48:36Speaker 1: gay men who wasn't talking about their sexuality they're common
- 48:40Speaker 1: to show he was calling them girl.
- 48:42Speaker 3: And I saw this with my own.
- 48:43Speaker 4: Eyes to and something he was and that's it. He
- 48:46Speaker 4: thinks he's smart, he thinks that he's ready for a
- 48:48Speaker 4: battle of wits and a war of words, per se,
- 48:51Speaker 4: and nothing.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Would give his his his his.
- 48:56Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that because that was too far,
- 48:58Speaker 4: nothing would give his heart joy right.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Then to okay, broth nothing growth.
- 49:07Speaker 4: Also, I want them to shut this show all the
- 49:09Speaker 4: way down.
- 49:12Speaker 2: I just texted to you anyway.
- 49:14Speaker 4: But you know, he would love nothing more than to
- 49:18Speaker 4: get the thrill of winning an argument with somebody who's black,
- 49:21Speaker 4: or somebody who's gay, or somebody who's any of the
- 49:24Speaker 4: marginalized communities that he actually idolizes. Right, And so he's
- 49:29Speaker 4: one of the motherfuckers. You just can't give your time,
- 49:31Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You can't go back and
- 49:33Speaker 4: forth with him. You can't go you can't allow him
- 49:36Speaker 4: to gold you into a moment that for him will
- 49:38Speaker 4: be like a trophy, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:41Speaker 2: So he's one of those motherfuckers.
- 49:42Speaker 4: You just got to call ugly and keep moving past,
- 49:44Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like that's it.
- 49:46Speaker 1: He don't get yeah, and you know it's bad when
- 49:50Speaker 1: at this point there were a lot of faithfuls who
- 49:54Speaker 1: were saying, I don't care if you are trade or not.
- 49:56Speaker 1: Get the fuck out, Like I don't want to be
- 49:58Speaker 1: around you anymore, like you want you want a house,
- 50:01Speaker 1: And that is indicative of someone's personality. And behavior, and
- 50:07Speaker 1: I'll end by saying this and Dustin, I don't love you.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Saw this Poorsha.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Williams or her press tour after getting voted off the show,
- 50:18Speaker 1: She said, Michael was worse than what we're seeing and
- 50:23Speaker 1: he needs to be thinking, editing.
- 50:26Speaker 4: I believe every word. I believe every word. I believe it.
- 50:30Speaker 4: He was a basket case, a loose cannon in the house.
- 50:33Speaker 4: Those people didn't feel safe around him. He already looks
- 50:36Speaker 4: like a monster from a fucking Halloween movie anyway. So
- 50:40Speaker 4: when you see somebody like that, looking like a weeping
- 50:44Speaker 4: willow tree and shit coming towards you with their mouth open,
- 50:47Speaker 4: spit coin the corners of their mouth, strings of flem
- 50:50Speaker 4: and spit all in their mouth, rotten teeth, spewing all
- 50:54Speaker 4: that bullshit that you all over that, you know, the
- 50:56Speaker 4: food on traders, just be out.
- 50:58Speaker 2: I ain't seen a cover on a dish yet.
- 51:00Speaker 3: Well, like Son, he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 51:04Speaker 2: Exactly, like a filthy mongrel. Man. He's just He's just
- 51:08Speaker 2: a filthy buzzard. That's what he is. Man. I'm glad,
- 51:11Speaker 2: good riddens.
- 51:12Speaker 4: I'm glad his ass and and and his bed sores
- 51:15Speaker 4: and shit are gone.
- 51:16Speaker 2: I'm glad he's gone. See ya this time. Man, the
- 51:20Speaker 2: fuck on.
- 51:21Speaker 4: Thank god, now we can actually play a game without chaos.
- 51:25Speaker 4: He's one of those people that is just fueled by
- 51:27Speaker 4: chaos and creating dissension. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 51:31Speaker 4: just fucking play the game if you so good. And
- 51:34Speaker 4: another thing, you know you ugly because he keeps saying
- 51:37Speaker 4: that you're getting rid of the best looking. You know
- 51:41Speaker 4: that you're ugly. So I don't have to like to
- 51:42Speaker 4: shout out to the movie Paris is Burning. I don't
- 51:45Speaker 4: have to tell you you're ugly because you know you're ugly,
- 51:48Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's the thing he
- 51:49Speaker 4: already know.
- 51:51Speaker 3: Yeah, that part was.
- 51:52Speaker 1: It's one of the things where listen, beauty is in
- 51:57Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder, right, but to not listen,
- 52:03Speaker 1: but we all have eyes, the hills have eyes. So
- 52:06Speaker 1: to know that you're not conditionally like like, for example,
- 52:12Speaker 1: I never go for this type of man, but that
- 52:15Speaker 1: motherfucker Rob and his overalls, Now that is a good
- 52:20Speaker 1: looking man and the world knows he's good looking.
- 52:23Speaker 2: Right.
- 52:24Speaker 1: Michael Rappaport constantly referring to himself as good looking to me,
- 52:30Speaker 1: Like you said, Dustin tells me everything I need to
- 52:32Speaker 1: know about how he feels about himself because.
- 52:36Speaker 4: That with him, that's why it comes from the inside out, Carlos.
- 52:40Speaker 4: The ugliness, it's not when when we call him ugly,
- 52:43Speaker 4: it's not so much about his physical appearance. When we've
- 52:45Speaker 4: talked about his physical appearance, it's been about.
- 52:47Speaker 2: Like his skin and stuff. We've never said that your face,
- 52:50Speaker 2: your eyes are ugly. It's not that.
- 52:52Speaker 4: It's his spirit, it's his energy, it's the intention that
- 52:55Speaker 4: he has in every space and every conversation. He's consumed
- 52:59Speaker 4: with negativity and he seems to be embattled to me,
- 53:03Speaker 4: like he's just a person that is just it seems
- 53:06Speaker 4: like a vortex of just sickness inside of him, you.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
- 53:11Speaker 4: And so that's what comes out as ugly. It's his behavior,
- 53:14Speaker 4: it's his thoughts, it's his words, it's his actions, and
- 53:17Speaker 4: it is his skin. It's all those things, you know
- 53:20Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, that's what makes him ugly. So
- 53:24Speaker 4: but guess what, it don't matter what he looked like
- 53:25Speaker 4: because we.
- 53:26Speaker 3: Ain't got to look at him no more.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Talk about a celebration last nights from watching the show
- 53:33Speaker 1: come on that he's gone, because I feel like it
- 53:39Speaker 1: will be Listen. I love good TV. I love a
- 53:42Speaker 1: good villain.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Me.
- 53:44Speaker 1: He's not a good villain to me, and that's why
- 53:46Speaker 1: I'm That's why I'm happy he's gone. Now Colton, who
- 53:53Speaker 1: sent Tiphany Holme, who wasn't faithful, he now has his
- 53:58Speaker 1: eyes set.
- 53:59Speaker 3: On Lisa Renna. Now this to me, Dustin is now
- 54:03Speaker 3: with the game and these.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Efforts about to get good because you have Culton and
- 54:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him this.
- 54:13Speaker 3: Who said, how is Lisa Brenna? And they're like, oh,
- 54:18Speaker 3: she's a talking to person. Really, do y'all think she's
- 54:22Speaker 3: talked a lot. Actually she has it.
- 54:24Speaker 1: And you got Derenda who's like, well that's my girl. Ed,
- 54:28Speaker 1: she definitely isn't being herself. And then to your earlier point, Dustin,
- 54:34Speaker 1: they then start to mock her exaggerated fonsive to.
- 54:41Speaker 4: Things, doing all of that ship yeah, yep, mm hmm
- 54:48Speaker 4: over breakfast mm hmmm.
- 54:53Speaker 2: You know how she be doing? Man? Oh, well, I
- 54:58Speaker 2: know I should have case gotta fucking go.
- 55:01Speaker 4: It's funny sometimes, but she's such a nasty person and
- 55:05Speaker 4: that's why I didn't feel no ways tired. Since this
- 55:08Speaker 4: is the Black Colloquialism episode.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Lows, I ain't feel no ways tired.
- 55:19Speaker 4: When Derinda was clocking Lisa Renda and when they was
- 55:21Speaker 4: talking about her like no, she ain't like that. I
- 55:23Speaker 4: didn't feel bad because Lisa Renda would send Derinda down
- 55:27Speaker 4: that river so fast without a doubt. So I didn't
- 55:29Speaker 4: feel no way about that. Derinda good set her ass up.
- 55:33Speaker 4: I don't even care because Lisa Renda can go. She's
- 55:37Speaker 4: a bad trader. She's not playing the game well, like
- 55:39Speaker 4: get out the way that Candice and Rob take this
- 55:42Speaker 4: thing on home.
- 55:43Speaker 3: She's no, no, no, I agree with you. She actually
- 55:46Speaker 3: isn't to me. The show now belongs to Camus and Rob.
- 55:50Speaker 1: Rob is listen, We're only in episode five right now.
- 55:56Speaker 3: But but I will say this is I will say my.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Spidy senses is already telling me Rob may go all
- 56:07Speaker 1: the way, yeah.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Just enough under the radar.
- 56:11Speaker 4: He's playing a very good social game on this show,
- 56:15Speaker 4: and so that.
- 56:17Speaker 2: That is good.
- 56:17Speaker 4: I think he's doing a good job on that. Candice
- 56:20Speaker 4: is playing a good game of strategy, and she's playing
- 56:24Speaker 4: a good social game. She just has got to dial
- 56:26Speaker 4: it back, maybe like a tenth, one tenth, you know
- 56:30Speaker 4: what I mean, just.
- 56:31Speaker 2: Dial it back just a little bit.
- 56:33Speaker 4: Yeah, otherwise they're playing a good game, so I'm enjoying it.
- 56:36Speaker 2: Loose, No, it was good.
- 56:38Speaker 3: It was good.
- 56:38Speaker 1: Some rain Drops. Episode six airs on Thursday, So as
- 56:44Speaker 1: of now we will be having only one episode a week.
- 56:47Speaker 1: We have five episodes in right now. Thank you Dustin
- 56:51Speaker 1: for bringing the show to my radar. I am loving it.
- 56:53Speaker 3: I'm a fan. I get excited with her happened.
- 56:56Speaker 1: Belly Hills is US news this season, so I now
- 56:58Speaker 1: have something to look forward.
- 56:59Speaker 2: To him Thursday.
- 57:01Speaker 4: Okay, you know it's funny you say that because I
- 57:03Speaker 4: haven't been inspired to watch Beverly Hills yet, so I'm behind.
- 57:08Speaker 2: I haven't watched any of this season yet.
- 57:10Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, and this is no bullshit,
- 57:13Speaker 1: and and I'm not being like exaggerated funny.
- 57:16Speaker 3: You're not missing anything. I'll tell you.
- 57:18Speaker 1: Watch you literally, you aren't, literally, Dustin Roths not missing
- 57:25Speaker 1: a thing.
- 57:26Speaker 3: There's not one thing that you need to go back to.
- 57:29Speaker 3: Just you're You're fine.
- 57:31Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 57:32Speaker 4: I didn't see anything that I don't know. I just
- 57:35Speaker 4: haven't been inspired to so hopefully I check it out.
- 57:37Speaker 4: But what I am watching is the motherfucking Traders, Okay,
- 57:40Speaker 4: and we're enjoying it.
- 57:41Speaker 2: And we'll see y'all again for another one, okay all.
- 57:44Speaker 2: I love you Dust, have a good weekend, bro, you too.
- 57:48Speaker 3: Bye.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
- 57:57Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nemitz, and a partner ship.
- 58:00Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.
- 58:02Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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