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Into The Oddverse | HHN35 First Impressions · Park Days Podcast

• Ryan: What's up Park Hoffers? Welcome back to another Park Days podcast episode. I'm your host Ryan, and as always, I'm here with my co-host, Charity. Charity: What is up guys? Ryan: We're also here, joined by our social media manager, our writer, Eilee. Charity: I leave. Ryan: Hello. On today's episode, we're gonna be talking about opening weekend and our initial thoughts of everything at Halloween Horror Nights 35. Charity went to Premium Scream Night. We were there, Charity: Mm. Ryan: Eiley and I were there opening night. It was such an exciting weekend. But before we get into Charity: It really was. Ryan: it, we're gonna go into some park news. Food and Wine Festival started on August 27th. That's exciting. I did not know that happened. But hopefully we'll be able to go out to Epcot at some point and check it out. Charity: Yeah. I've got a couple of things planned, so we'll definitely we'll be out there soon. Ryan: Another news. As of today recording, there has been rumors on the street that animal actors at Universal Studios will be closing on November second of this year. Nothing's been confirmed by Universal. It is just rumors. But that's kind of sad. I mean, we're losing Charity: That's a so does that leave Universal with absolutely no shows? No stage shows? Ryan: That's absolutely no stage shows. Charity: And also and also I think that's Universal's biggest downflow f fa flaw is that they don't have any stage shows. it's one of the things that I love about Disney so much is being able to just go sit, watch a show. And Universal doesn't even have horror makeup show open right now. Ryan: Yeah, horror makeup show will be the last the last like stage show, but right now it's not open. So Charity: Yeah. Ryan: Charity, since you went to Premium Scream Night, do you wanna start off the episode by giving your opinions on the night itself? Charity: I would love to 'cause not only did I get to go before you, I now get to talk about it before you. So I thought Ryan: Wow, okay, okay. Can I Charity: So one okay, so premium Scream Night, if y'all don't know. it's a night where they're supposed to be less crowded. All of your food is included in the price. and it's just a really fun night. So I got to go. all of the lines were literally five minutes at most, if not walk-ons for the houses. It was fantastic. all of the food was included, so we get we got to try I think almost all of the food booths except for three of them. but stay tuned to our Instagram TikTok. I will be posting my food reviews of everything we everything I ate and tried. but yeah, no, it was it was so much fun. Like I throughout the night was like I was like, these are amazing houses. I was like, the sh Scare zones were amazing. There was like no people around us. It was just fantastic. definitely way better than last year's. and I'm excited to go again next year. So Ryan: That's one thing I wanted to ask was are there any downfalls to premium scream like like I know there's all these great things like the less wait times, but was there anything that you felt lacked compared to regular nights? Charity: I so Ye yes. Be because it's the beginning of the season, a lot of the scare actors aren't used to their cues yet or like not everybody's there. They don't have all of the roles casted, stuff like that. I was I was gonna say not as scary as it could have been, but that just like me and Ryan talked about one of the houses and I missed out on one of the houses. Not I don't know if that was a casting thing or just a premium scream night thing. But it's just the scare actors weren't as many as there should have been. So that but premium scream night is now split into two different nights. And so I am curious to see when that comes around, which I think is Ryan: October nineteenth. Charity: October nineteenth. I I I'm excited to like watch the videos, watch the wait time, see what it's like, 'cause maybe next year we'll do it later in the season because I think that might be worth it. Because you've got scare actors that are now used to their roles, their you know, the f Ryan: Operations. Charity: operations will all be more. And so I think premium scream night is worth it because it's like buying a regular ticket plus express, but then you get all the food included and everything. I did I did the math of all of the food we ate, added it up, and I think we were like a hundred and fifty one in the positive. But yeah, that's my that's all I have for premium scream night. Not allowed to get into talking about the houses yet, but I thought it was amazing. I was smiling throughout the whole night and I was really sad because I was like, Ryan's gonna have so much fun with this event this year. And I was texting him, but not like Trying to spoil anything. Ryan: Which I I really appreciate that you didn't spoil anything. Charity: 'cause I I wanted to. I wanted to be like, bro, you'll never guess what I just saw. But I didn't. I'm a good friend. But Ryan, Eiley, how is Friday? Ryan: I got to go. I I got to go opening scream night or not op I will say this. Opening night was atrocious. Operations were terrible. Lines were even worse. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: It just It wasn't enjoyable opening night. I definitely ended like Walking out of opening night, I missed last year. I'll say this without getting into too much of the houses. Cause and I went opening weekend. So we went opening night, Saturday, and Sunday. So if I was if we were just giving my opinions about the houses and everything from opening night, you would hear a very negative. Like I would be very negative. I did not enjoy the house's opening night. didn't like I got scared but only by like getting caught off guard. I walked through the houses and I was just like Something doesn't feel right. And I felt that way throughout Charity: Interesting. Ryan: I felt that way through everything. I think there was only one house that I didn't feel that way one hundred percent. There were parts of the house that did I was like, I don't like this, but we'll get into that. Charity: Is it just 'cause you were crowded or what was Ryan: I I think what happened for me was I was so excited about opening night. Mind you, this is my first time going to opening night. I was so excited, and I think all that excitement kind of just like it mellowed out on the day of. And I guess a part of me was slightly overwhelmed. Charity: I was so nervous about premium scream night, you know. Like, is it gonna be worse than last year? Like, how busy is it gonna be? So I think I was just so overly stressed. But by the time we got there and we were standing at that front gate, and I realized there weren't a thousand people behind us, I really like calmed down. Especially because we were first in line for Oddfellow. just I think being that first person in line. audically made the rest of the night better. Ryan: I think that's another thing was it was how the night started off as well. The night started off with terrible storms. If you if you Charity: Yeah, you guys got rained on harder than we did. Ryan: if you go to our TikTok, there is a video of us literally sounding like we got struck by lightning. Charity: It looks like a fake video. But like if I hadn't been there on the live witnessing it, I would have like, that's fake. Just the way that the audio sounds. But it was, yeah. Ryan: It it it was real. It was so it was so scary. And then also we got there, we got there what time did we get there, Eiley? It like four, four thirty. Aili: It was early. And we stood there for a while and then stood somewhere else. Ryan: was early and there was already Yeah. And there was there was already people there. So we didn't get to see the opening ceremony also the place that we got put at, like where we moved to after to get cover. We then 'cause we were like, okay, we're not gonna be in the middle to be able to see s opening ceremony. So we moved over to one of Charity: Did it even happen? Ryan: the ticket stations. It did happen. Charity: Okay. Ryan: And then they lined up all the influencers and all the all the influencers on both sides and it basically blocked our view from seeing opening or from seeing the opening ceremony. Charity: For media. Ryan: Yeah, for media. I think it was media. I saw a bunch of media people, but it could have also been people that were in the stay and scream that were like, I'm gonna choose the Opening CRM stand screen area. Eiley, do you have anything you wanna say about opening night? And just your experience? Or anything about opening weekend at all? Any foods you tried? Aili: The lasagna burn. Ryan: Tell us tell us about all that's on your burn. It's Aili: It was terrible. It was terrible. Ryan: terrible. Aili: Cause you order it and it has that one little chili pepper next to it. And you're like, it's just one little chili pepper. It's not gonna be terrible. And then you eat it and it's the worst thing of your life. Like nothing about it was enjoyable. My mouth was just on fire. But that made me get the peanut butter bites, and the peanut butter bites were so good. I probably wouldn't have gotten it. Ryan: The smuggled the smuggled Charity: The stranger things. Ryan: peanut butter bites. Aili: Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten it if I didn't burn my entire mouth out with the lasagna, so Ryan: So I guess it was a plus to getting the lasagna burn. Aili: Just an excuse to buy the peanut butter phrase. Ryan: Just an Charity: Mm. Ryan: excuse. Listen, if you're really wanting the peanut butter bites but you don't want to buy it and you need an excuse, go to the Evil Dead Bites. It's right next to Club Horror. Eat that first. Charity: So spending twice twice the amount just for butter bites. Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, Aili: For the experience. Ryan: yeah. It's for the experience. Charity: But I also went with y'all on Sunday. I only did two houses 'cause sadly I did have to work the next day. But I just wanted to add that in there. That is the only opening quote unquote thing I did. Yeah. Ryan: weekend that you got to w any any experience on that? Charity: The lines sucked. I it was really Ryan: The line sucked. Lovely. Charity: sad going from absolutely no lines to having to wait an hour for sinners. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: really made me really made me appreciate premium scream night and the money that we spent. so premium scream night, if you're only gonna do one night and you have the money, definitely worth it. But Ryan: Listen, I still think spending the money on a pass if you can, like if you're an Orlando local, I think spending the money on the pass is so much better. Charity: yeah, no, definitely is it is so much better. 'cause then you get to go multiple nights, but like again, if you only have the one night and you're already gonna be spending the money on Express too. Just do the premium script night. Cause then you don't have to worry about buying all the food. You can just walk up. like I said, I'm excited to see what happens the second night and what universal. Ryan: Yeah, I'm I'm really I'm really excited to see 'cause this is the first time that we're do that they're doing two premium scream nights. Charity: Two nights, yeah. Ryan: Before we get into the our like our rankings and talking about the houses, we all did see Nightmare Fuel. Blood Noir. Did we see The Stranger Things show? No? No, we did not. Charity: No. I I like I heard Ryan: Is anybody looking around? Charity: it like every time the water would spray up, I'm like, hey look, I got the notifications a million times. I like that I get notifications for Ryan: I thought they did a good job. I did get the notifications a million times. Shader things. Charity: that, but not for noir. Ryan: Stranger Things Return to Hawkins is starting soon. Everybody has that had that problem. And I think that's really funny. I think they did a good job condensing the sound of the Stranger Things show. So I didn't have to hear running up that hill throughout the entire theme park. That was nice. But yeah, do we want to talk about Blood Noir? Eiley, I know you are the biggest Nightmare Fuel fan. Aili: I loved it. I loved it. I think last year's was so good because we made it so good. So this year's you said you didn't really like it. Ryan: I didn't like it. Aili: But you just weren't into it. Like once you start getting into it, it'll be better. Ryan: I don't I don't know. Charity: So okay, I'm gonna say I didn't hate it. I thought it was cute. I liked the theme of it. I I I definitely liked it, but it definitely wasn't nightmare fuel. Like there was a lot missing. Like there were honestly it felt like there was only like Ryan: It that's what it is. It didn't feel like nightmare fuel. Charity: there was only like four actors on stage. There were a lot of like the extra acrobatics that normally goes on, but I think it's because they put it together last minute. But I definitely thought it was cute. Like the music was good. The choreography was really good. I just don't really see myself fighting my way to go sit and watch it again. Like definitely cute for a one time, but Ryan: Yeah, I don't think it's worth I don't think it's worth spending that extra thirty minutes just to wait for the show. Charity: More than that. Thirty minutes to watch the show, an extra ten, fifteen to get in there. Yeah. Ryan: It's it's about an hour. It's about an hour out of your night that you're missing out on scarezone houses. listen, if you like that kind of stuff, go for it. Go for it. Will we be doing it again? Yeah, I know we will, because Eiley loves loves Aili: Yeah, yes we will. Ryan: doing it. I leave loves doing it. Maybe it'll get better as the season goes on. Cause I will say last year, the first time I watched it, I did not like it. And then the second time I enjoyed it a lot more. I didn't like the music. I didn't like the music choices. I think Charity: I can't agree on that. The music was great. The use Creed. Love that band. Ryan: I think I liked the I think I liked the theming of last year a lot more. I don't really care for the vampire story. Aili: You also said you didn't understand the story though. Ryan: I also didn't understand the story. Charity: What didn't you understand? Ryan: Like I understood that the fuel girls were vampire hunters. And that was kind of it. Anything else about the about Nightmare Fuel Blood Noir or even though we didn't see it the Shanger Things show, do you wanna see it? Is it something that you want to take your time out of a night to see it? Charity: I'm no, I'm not gonna take the time out of maybe maybe sometime throughout the season. Maybe if I'm not, you know if I'm in the area when it when I get that notification. If I'm walking through the Fortnite scare zone and I get the notification, maybe I'll step to the side and watch it. But I don't Ryan: You're not skipping it, you're not skipping through the viewing area to skip the Fortnitemare scare zone like all the haters on on Twitter and everywhere else. Charity: I don't know about you, but that is the most popular scare zone. Anyways, we'll talk about it. Ryan: We'll talk about that. Eiley, any any last notes on Nightmare Fuel before we move on? Aili: No, but I wanna watch the Stranger Things show. Ryan: You do want to watch China Theater show. I mean, I do too. The reviews I've heard about it Aili: 'Cause why not? We're there every single night. Ryan: The reviews I've heard about it is people are saying it is the best Lagoon show that they've done. Someone said that it made them cry. They're not a fan of stranger things. Charity: That's crazy. Ryan: They're not a fan of stranger things and it made them cry. Charity: Honestly, when we go when Aili: Everyone likes to hate on stranger things. Charity: we go over our lists, maybe maybe I will. Ryan: All right. Yeah. I mean I plan on singing it. I plan on singing it at some point. Charity: Like I said, if I'm in the area. Ryan: So we're gonna run through our rankings similarly to how we did the hype list episode. So we are going to start from our lowest rank to our highest rank. Charity: To our highest. Ryan: And we are taking out the shows and the street experiences because it's kind of, I feel like they're gonna be in the same positions for all of us. We also didn't see the Stranger Things show. Like we said, and so on and so forth. So we're just doing the scare zones and houses. Yeah. So who wants to go first on their lowest ranked scare zone, Eileen, since you're our guest, would you like to go first? Aili: Scare zones for this Ryan: Yeah, scare zones. Aili: weekend. Ryan: For opening weekend, our initial ranking of the scare zones. Aili: Icon. Ryan: Icon Has you lost? Charity: Is your lowest? Aili: Because w because what even is it? 'Cause you walk through like nothingness. Ryan: Icon is also my fourth scare zone. I it's it's lacking. It's lacking everything that it needs to it should have been. We should have icons in here. Yes, do we have icons in other locations? Yeah. But it's just it's nothingness. It's a whole lot of nothingness. You see it's the it's the clowns that you have it have in. The other scares it's kind of the carnies. It's it's like the chainsaw carnies, just without chainsaws. They have other items. Charity: Mm-hmm. Ryan: You have the ushers. I think that's cool to see the usher. The usher on stilts is really cool to see. Am I s am I going to be hanging out in the Infernal Carnival of Nightmare Scare Zone? No, I will not be. Maybe, maybe if I'm walking in and Jack's on the podium, if Jack and Oddfellow are on the podium, I'll wait there for a little bit just to say hi to Jack, say hi to Oddfellow, try to get a picture, maybe. But I will be moving on into the other scare zones. So Charity, What's your fourth? Charity: Sideshow of Decay. so opening weekend between both premium scream night and going on Sunday, I only walked through s Sideshow twice. and it was just a quick walkthrough. Didn't really get to like C C everything. But I just don't I just didn't really care. for everything that was like yeah, it was cool to see Cindy and the Caretaker. and then when we walked through on Sunday, Oddfellow was it looked like he had kicked the caretaker out of his spot. Ryan: No, the caretaker was still up there. Charity: Yes, but he was standing off to the side, not in the usual place where he Ryan: Yes. Charity: stands. Oddfellow was standing there. So he kicked him out of his spot. So yeah, so that's why it's the lowest for me, just because again, there's so much clown stuff this year that I was I just just more clowns, more carnival stuff. It is there's there's a lot of cool Ryan: But was I right? Was I not right? Was I not right? There are no clowns in that scare zone. There's no clowns Charity: There are. Ryan: in that scare zone. Charity: But it's still carnival. Ryan: The props are carnival, but there are no clowns in the scare zone. Again, Sideshow of Decay, it's the carnival graveyard. Charity: Anyways, I I think some of like the little stages that they have were kind of cool. like the mermaid one was cute, But yeah, I just don't really remember much of it. That's why I was at my it might ch it's it'll probably change throughout the season, but I just haven't gone through it enough. So that's it. That's why it's the lowest of mine. Alright, So my number three was What is it called? Infernal Carnival of Nightmares. Carnival? Ryan: Yes. Yes, it is carnival. Charity: See, I like the little Bellhop people, whatever they are, with the flashlights, Ryan: Yeah, sure. Charity: the ushers. I thought they were cute. I thought liked the Ushers, I thought they were really cute. I like that they have flashlights. that's just why it's above. I just think they're so cute. And then I like seeing Jack and Oddfellow up top. I think I like that they're up there interacting with people. Yeah, that's all I have. Ryan: Can you piggyback off of that, Eiley? Or I guess you can't 'cause you already did icons, so do you wanna go with your number three? Aili: So ours are swapped. Because my number four is icon for me. Number three is Sideshow decay. Because I don't understand half of it. I just think it looks really cool. So I only know like Caretaker, Cindy, the cats. But everything else just looks nice. I if I knew the story to everything, this would probably be number two. But I don't, so it's number three. Ryan: my number three is Fortnightmares. Listen, I love it. I love Fort Nightmares. I think the scare zone is over hated. I think the scare zone is way overhated, but there's just other There's just the other two skirms are just so much better in so many ways. I feel like Sport Nightmares is goofy. It doesn't fit the event, but it's still fun. It's still fun. I have a good time. I loved emoting with that with with the ones character. I I loved it. But yeah, I'm gonna go into my number two because you guys just talked about it. My number two is Sideshow of Decay. Sideshow Decay is so freaking cool, and I don't understand why you guys don't understand it. I understand why Eiley doesn't isn't it isn't higher up for Eilee. She doesn't understand the characters in the scare zone. Charity, I think you're wrong. There's no clowns in there. There might be one, there might be one clown. There might be one clown. Charity: Like I s like I said, I think I think it will change throughout this season. It was just my opening weekend. Ryan: I know, I know, and I'm just saying, I still I still think you're wrong right now. It's so freaking cool. The scare actors are in there. They are scare actors from scare zones in the past, and even some with houses, but they're also undead looking. I'm scared of zombies, but they I thought this was so cool. They don't look like the costume that they had when they were in their respective house or scare zone. The cre the the crooked the cat lady of crooked lane, the cat that's in there. It's not just a cat, it's like a zombie cat. And I think that's so cool. And I think seeing Sinister and Surreal on there, seeing Bone, seeing the jungle of Charity: Like a graveyard? Ryan: doom, yeah, it's a graveyard. I just It's so it's such a cool scare zone, especially for such like a Horror Knights fan and loving the history of Halloween Horror Knights that it's just It's my number it's not my number too. I love it. Aili: I wanna say my number two. I I have Ryan: Charity, you wanna say your number two? Okay. Aili: to say it after you because my number two is my number two because of your experience. So my number two Ryan: Because of my experience? Aili: is Fortnitemares because of you breaking it down with that one character. Like I never played Fortnite. Never will play Fortnite. I don't understand half of it. But Charity: Come on, Eiley, join us. Join us. Aili: It was so fun. It was just so fun in there. So I it has to be number two. Ryan: One of us, one us. No, that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. So with Charity's reaction, I don't think your number two is Fortnightmares. So I guess you can go into your Aili: Yeah. Ryan: go on to your number two. Charity: So my number two is downtown Clowntown. I really like it. Ryan: Mm-hmm. Charity: I I really like it. it's the only It's the only scare zone that I've ever gotten scared in. And it's only because of art. I refuse to go down that alleyway anymore. I only did it during premium scream night. and the second I saw his little henchmen elf thingies gathering people, I shoved my mom and I ran. 'Cause I yeah, no. I just like I've never felt fear standing in a scare zone. Like I think because I'm so used to being like, they're just theater kids, just universal workers. What's there to be scared of? They're not scary. but there's just something about Art the Clown that really like makes me unsettled and I hate it. So Yeah, so but I Aili: But isn't that the whole point? Ryan: Isn't that the whole point of Hollowing Horror Knights? Aili: Isn't that the whole point? Charity: but no, I love the killer clowns from outer space stuff. I love all the little clowns like that they have further back. Ryan: I thought you were tired of clowns, Charity. I thought you didn't like clowns. Why? But you're saying you love them? Are you saying you love the clowns? Charity: That's what I'm saying. I like the one clown scare zone. The rest too much. But the clown scare zone is great. Everything else? Ryan: Okay. Charity: Too much. Ryan: Okay. Okay. Well I feel like I have a lot to say 'cause Clowntown is my number one, so I leave Aili: Okay, well I feel like I have a lot to say too, so Ryan: Okay, so then let's let's let's have a conversation about downtown clowntown, since it's both our number one. Aili: how do you know? I I love this one because of Killer Clowns, because of art, because of Jack and Chance, because of all the clowns, because of Delancy Dan. It's like it goes so deep. Ryan: The Lindsay D Aili: It's like a giant scare zone and it's so fun. And I love Ryan: It is Charity: It is. Aili: charity hates art the clown, but I love art the clown. I love his little elves. I love that Vicky is there. I love that what's her name? Sienna. She's there. Ryan: Yeah. Aili: The the little pale girl is there. Is that her name? Pretty sure that's her name. The little pale girl. They're all there just walking around and art's like actively killing someone. Ryan: Yes, the little pickle all of them are there. All of them are there. I think we stopped at that I think we've also we've stopped there. Aili: I love it. Ryan: We've stopped there like four different times, right? Aili: Mm-hmm. Ryan: I loved dancing with one of his little elves. I thought that was so fun. It was playing one of the the the terror fire tracks and I was just I was just vibing and one of the elves started dancing with me and it was it was just it's so fun. That little section's so fun. Killer clums them out of his face, freaking amazing. I love seeing them again. Again, I'm just dancing with all the scare actors. I press that guest guest activated trigger that's on the on the cotton candy cocoon thing and it starts playing the dun dun dun dun dun or whatever the the theme is for the killer clowns, not the main song, but like their little jig. And the clowns Charity: Yeah. Ryan: will start gathering around it and dancing at it. And it's Charity: That's so funny. Ryan: it's so fun. And then just Aili: I think they also look really cool. Like they look so Charity: There's definitely a lot going on. Yeah. Ryan: They do th look really cool. They look really real. Aili: different from everything else that's there. It's like we're in the movie. And all the props that are there, the cocoons, the pies, the fog bubbles. Ryan: Fog bubbles. The fog Charity: The fog bubbles. Ryan: bubbles. It's such Aili: They're very cool. Ryan: it's such an amazing scare zone. And I feel like I feel like this is one of the best scare zones of all time. Like, I don't think anything can top this in Miles. Like again, like at least said Jack and Chance, Eddie. Aili: And Eddie. It's like you think of one character Ryan: Delancy Dan. Aili: and there's another one. Ryan: Delancey Dan. I love Delancy Dan. He's hilarious. There's actually right now there's fan lore going around Delancy Dan that makes me like him even more as a clown. I like that the tribute store is t connected to the scare zone. I like that you have the puppet show that tells you the lore between Jack and Oddfellow. I like the stage show of chance on stage just y talking to people and yelling at people. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: There's just so much going on in that scare zone. I mean the clowns are so fun. If snip snip, whatever, I'm just calling him snip snip. Snip snip. Whoops. He's freaking hilarious. Aili: I was gonna bring Ryan: I mean Aili: that up if you didn't. He's funny. Ryan: It's it's such a good scare zone and I know charity you might disagree with this, but if they could make the entire event downtown clowntown, where like nowhere was safe and everywhere were clowns, I would be just as happy. Charity: If it was specifically downtown Clowntown, then maybe. But the fact that there's just I don't know. There's there's something about Sideshow that really in I the I it just it I don't my brain don't like it. Ryan: Is that is that everything to talk about down clon down clown town? I feel like I could talk about it for so much longer, but I feel it like we need to Charity: Listen, I still need to I still I still need to go on my Fortnite rant, so Ryan: You do need to go on your Fortnite random. We're about an hour in and we haven't even gotten to the houses, Charity: I know. Ryan: so Charity: let me know. Okay, Ryan: Yes, charity. Talk about fortnightmares. Charity: okay. Okay. Again, this is just opening weekend, and I feel like you didn't get to see them building and having their little battle. So all you saw when we were walking past was it turning blue and then like there being building. But there's a show moment that goes on where I wish I knew the characters' names. Where one of them Ryan: Penny. Charity: is already inside collecting loot. So like you know how like there's the stairs that go up. do you know where I'm talking about on the side of the building? Okay. Where Ryan: I do know what you're talking about, yes. Mm-hmm. Charity: we s where we saw the blue. so he'll stand at the very bottom where it's the blue the blueprint is only there, but you see another character inside collecting loot. and so then he builds up and then they start shooting when he gets up there. which it was really cool show moment. and I liked that because we always talk about being immersed in things that we love. We love Fortnite, and I thought that was really cool. It was really cool watching it. And yes, some of the outfits that are in the scare zone are so cheesy and so awful. Ryan: So I forg I completely forgot to bring that up. That's why it's that's why it's at three is for me, is because I feel like the outfits are so cheesy. And there's only one outfit in this entire scare zone that I am thoroughly impressed with, and that's the the like the mashup character. I you he I it's the skin I use in Fortnite, but I don't know his name. It's the one with the like the the half-cuttle team leader, pumpkin or Tomato Head. I'm forgetting his name. He's usually on the stage on the side. Charity: s that's so funny. 'Cause I yeah, 'cause I didn't even see him. the main one I l Ryan: He's the coolest. Charity: The main one that I like is the one w that has the hood with just the glowing eyes. He's one of my favorites. And then I really like the cat Ryan: Raven? Charity: pumpkin. Yeah, Raven. I really like the cat pumpkin. I like that the banana is just hanging 'cause I really hate him and I like that we hung him. Ryan: I genuinely think that banana is supposed to swing back and like go back and forth and it's just like it's a foxy it's a foxy incident where it just doesn't work. Because it looks like he's Charity: I don't know, girl. Ryan: supposed to be on a zip line. Like he's supposed to be ziplining. Charity: I'm sure I'm sure that was the attention, but still it looks like we just sung him or hung him for sacrifice, and that really brings me joy because I don't like him. but I don't know. That's why it's number one for me. I just feel like I it's more immersive than anybody else. And then also premium Scream Knight, there weren't as many people, so you really got to interact and like see everybody were as ever s Ryan: I don't know, I got to interact with I got to interact with them so much. Charity: But I feel like now it's super crowded because it is such a small space. And the battle bus, like seeing that walking up was crazy. like I literally I have a video of me walking through the the scare zone for the first time. Ryan: Hey now, hey now, this is what dreams are made of. Charity: And you can just hear me in the background being like, my gosh, my gosh, what is that? my gosh. And so that's why we will not be posting that video because I sound like a nerd. But I don't know. That's why that's why it's my favorite from now. downtown Clown Town. Didn't spend too much time in it. Like I haven't got to stand there and watch chance on her show. Like I haven't got to see any of the show moments from that, so Ryan: We stood there for a good moment on Sunday. Charity: Yeah, but we didn't get to see them do anything. Jack walked out and we walked away. I was gonna Ryan: But Charity: let you guys I was gonna let you guys walk away so I could watch it, but I didn't want to be left behind. Ryan: Anyways, that anyone have any else anything else to say about any any of the scare zones before we move on to the houses? Charity: No, I think that's it. Aili: Can we talk about the chainsaw people? For point two seconds. Ryan: You wanna talk about the ch the chainsa Yeah, we could talk about the chainsaw horde in Springfield. Aili: They suck. Not my clowns, Ryan: they do suck. Aili: not my clowns. Ryan: Not my clowns. Not my clowns indeed. They look like they're in regular people clothes. Aili: Last year was so much better. Charity: I actually didn't see them at all. Aili: And last year's people were Ryan: I do agree with you there. Aili: like funny. Ryan: Yeah, these guys aren't funny. where's where's our clowns from last year? Wh where are our clowns from last year? Aili: That's all I had to say about that. Ryan: Well, thank you for bringing that up. I wouldn't I wouldn't have gone I wouldn't have gone into Aili: Thoroughly disappointed. Ryan: that. Maybe it'll get better. Maybe maybe Aili: I miss when they would make fun of you. Ryan: I do miss when they would make fun of you. Right, so anybody w who wants to go first on their on their houses list, starting at number ten. Alright, well if nobody's gonna pony up, I'll go with my number ten being Madland's Caged Cannibals. Are we shocked? Is anybody shocked here? Anybody? Charity: No, but you will be. Ryan: So I really I'm just so lost. I think the set I think the best part about the entire the entirety of Madlands is the set pieces. And I think that's like the coolest part. I do see, I can see where we are in the house, like where we are in the in the zoo, but I don't understand the story. There is a story as you're going through. There's not just like, we're getting attacked by these people. Apparently there is like an actual like visible story that you should be following throughout the house that I am just not I'm not picking up. Like I don't know, I Charity: Isn't it? Ryan: don't under I don't understand how the house like the house starts. I understand how the house starts. You're entering the zoo. Why is there an X over at the zoo? So it just says Zo. That doesn't make sense. That I think the ending, I think the ending sucks. Like you just see the last bit of scare actors and then that's it. Like there's no conclusion to the house. Charity: their conclusion to other houses? Ryan: Yeah, all the houses have a conclusion. Like they have a clear conclusion. I think the only one that I could you could not fully understand is Cyber Goria. Charity: No, Cybergoria makes sense. You're making your way outside. Ryan: But yeah, I just didn't understand Mad Lance. I d it wa it lacked. I feel like I didn't get scared in it. Charity: I feel like they have some good scares in it. I mean, you're going through Ryan: My favorite I will s I I I will say my favorite room is the apiary. That's probably the coolest room being in that birdcage and then watching that sh the shadow of somebody walking in and then being pulled up by someone. But I don't have this feeling of we are in a post like it feels very Mad Maxi. I don't like the Mad Max franchise. I'll just say that. Charity: See, I didn't I didn't like it. I didn't I didn't love it the first time I went through it because I was like, Okay, it's just mad max about animals. But going through the second time, I was like, Okay, you know, you're with a group of people, you're trying to take coverage in the zoo, but there's a bunch of these cannibals that are in already in there, and you see like through the shadows, people of your group getting taken, getting eaten, getting killed, and you're just making your way through the zoo trying to escape. And Ryan: Okay. Charity: I guess the your conclusion is you don't escape if you need an ending. Ryan: I don't know, that's what I want to know. I want to know, do we die? Do we get eaten? Do we survive? I don't know. Because I mean Horror Knights most of the time, a lot of the houses is you survive in the end. There's only one house that they've ever made where you do not survive in the end. And that was depths of fear. But yeah, I mean, I don't wanna go too long on Madlands. I just wasn't a fan of it. Maybe it could go up more as the characters grow like as they as they get into the roles. Do they get in your face? I think they do a little bit. I didn't experience it. I see other people getting it in their face, but to me it was just Walk through. Charity: I don't know. I I I'll give my opinion on it later. Ryan: Eiley, do you have anything you want to say about it? About like my opinion on it? I feel like you're very you've been very, very quiet about this. Aili: I'm gonna give my opinion because Madlands is also my number ten. But Ryan: Wow. Aili: it's not that it's bad, I just think everything else is better. Cause like I understand guess I don't understand the end, but I understand the story throughout the house for the most part. And I think the scaractors being like birds are so cool. Ryan: Those bird people are so cool. Those are that's my favorite Aili: And so cool. Ryan: part. Aili: And the guy making the masks for them. It's like every time you go through the house you see something new. And I think the whole setup is really cool. But I think everything else was better. Which is really devastating for me because that was really high on my list at first. Ryan: Yeah, you weren't on the episode for I wanted to bring that up before we started this 'cause I wanted you to read off your hype list compared but you did have it really high up. It was like what, number two? Number three? Aili: Number three. No, it's number ten. Ryan: That is a that's a huge jump. Aili: Yeah. I hope it gets better though. So it's not number ten. Ryan: All right, Charity, do you wanna give us your number ten? Charity: so my number ten. You'll never guess. Evil Dead Burn. I just I don't like possession and it was just a bad house. weird and like it. But hey, I said I'd do it once. I did it once. Ryan: And you will be you will be doing it again. Charity: I will not be doing it again. I actually I'll do I'll do Hellraiser again. I will not be doing Evil Deadburn again. I'll do Madlands again, but I will not be doing Evil Deadburn again. Ryan: Okay. Charity: But that's all I have to say on it. Didn't like it. So we can move on to our nines. Ryan: Okay, I'm gonna move on to mine nine, because I'm gonna piggyback off of your Evil Dead Burn. Number nine is Evil Dead Burn. And I really don't want to give it a nine. I really don't want to give it a nine. I think the house was decent for what it was. You definitely followed the movie to a T, which I think was really nice. Like I understood everything that was happening throughout the house. I knew the scenes. But I think what killed it for me, and this is simply because mind you, this is the only house that Eileen and I didn't do two times. We did every single other house two times. This house is the only one that we didn't get to do a second time. And the one time we waited in it, we got in line, it said 60 minutes 65 minutes. And throughout the rest of the night, we were like, Okay, these lines aren't as long as they say they are. Instead of waiting sixty five minutes, we waited ninety. And I think that hindered the experience because I by the time the time we got into the house, I was just like, Okay, I'm just ready. I'm I wanna do something else. And that's all I have to really say about Evil Dead Burn. I think the opening room is so freaking cool though. I'm not gonna spoil what it is in case anybody hasn't gone yet. But it is really cool. Charity: With the screens. Ryan: With there there's only one screen and it just shows the Evil Dead Burn burn logo and then you have something on the on the left side. And I thought that opening room was so freaking cool. Charity: I think I blocked out the entire experience. I really hated it. Ryan: That's what I'm saying. You have to do it again. Do it Charity: Nope. Ryan: one other time to full to form a full opinion, you have to do it at least one more time. For me, please do it again. Anyways. Charity: I do anything for you. Ryan: Who wants to go to their nine? Aili: Number nine for me is Stranger Things. Because I thought it was really good and I thought it was very accurate. But it's just lame. It's just like you're walking through. I don't know, maybe I'm just too familiar with Stranger Things now. And it's like I know everything that's gonna happen. Like, there's Ryan: Yeah. Aili: another Demogorgon. Ryan: Which that's something that I think is really interesting. The main scare actor in this house is the Demogorgon. The Demogorgon isn't in the sh in season five until after like epsi once you hit episode like f four or whatever, Shock Jock when they try to or after the big scene at the the VMAC or whatever it's called and Will kills the Demogorgons, they're not in there at all. But so that was just one thing that I found interesting. Is that all you had to say about sharing things it? Aili: I really like that one room where it's Will and the Demogorgon and he's like ripping that thing Ryan: Where it's massive, I do think that room's cool. Aili: apart. That's very cool. That's the one room I look forward to. But Ryan: Mm-hmm. Charity: I think all of our lists Aili: Yeah. Charity: are I think my list is very different from your guys' list. I wanna get into Ryan: What's your number nine? Aili: I think my next one is gonna be controversial. Ryan: Your next one's gonna be controversial. Well l let's hear let's hear charities number nine before we Aili: I just f remember what's coming. Ryan: I think mine's also very Charity: Number nine. Ryan: controversial. My number eight is also very controversial. I will say that before Charity goes into her number nine. So maybe I Charity will wanna go from nine to eight immediately. Charity: my number nine is Hellraiser. I didn't think it was a terrible house. I started laughing through the house and that's what made it so bad for me was because the skin suits just look like party city outfits. so like when they move it turns white and it just really made me laugh and I felt bad because I was laughing so hard. Scare actors kept trying to come at me and it just made me laugh harder because it was just the skin suits and it was it was just really bad. so that's why it's at nine for me. Hey, I did recognize a lot of the characters though. So apparently I know more about Hellraiser than I thought I did, but I did just keep thinking about Rick and Morty the whole time. So yeah. Ryan: I can't say anything about Hellraiser. So unless Eilee wants to get into her controversy, I I think you should go into your number your number eight charity. Charity: My number eight was invasion. they listen, I was really excited for this one. This one was mind you, my pre-list or whatever, my hype list, it was Evil Deadburn and then Hellraiser at the very bottom. So I'm still on track for that. But invasion was number four for me last time, and now it's at number eight because they said they didn't want to make it cheesy. And yes, I think I definitely need to redo it. I think it will go up on my list again because I feel like I missed out on a lot of the rooms because we kinda walked through it fast. But it it was very Ryan: It's a short house. Charity: Yes, but it's it is very cheesy. They said they didn't want to do cheesy, but all they have are little green aliens. Very Ryan: They're gray. Charity: little green aliens. And I just it wasn't Ryan: They're gray. Charity: scared. Anyways, they were green. Ryan: They're grey. They're literally they Charity: But Ryan: they're called the greys. Charity: I know they're called the Greys. but they were green. They were definitely green. and they were little, like little little. and I I think I have a fear of little people. Ryan: Okay. Charity: And so I so I just kept walking I just walked through the house fast and it was just very cheesy and I just I didn't like it. Ryan: Ily, do you wanna go into your number eight? Or do you want me to go into my number eight? Cause I feel like y'all I think I think if I go into my number eight, it's gonna start an argument. Charity: I feel like both of y'all are about to start an argument. Aili: Yeah, I feel like mine is gonna start an argument with Ryan. But I'm ready to fight. My number eight, HR Blood and Guts. Terrible. Okay, it wasn't terrible. It's just not Like I have too much fun in that house, and not in a good way. I think it's kinda dumb and I have no personal connection to the pumpkin lord, so everyone freaking out about the pumpkin lord I don't get it. Also, I really love the pumpkin spice room, but I think it's dumb. Ryan: I you're it's not as controversial as I as I thought it was as as I thought you were gonna be. Aili: But everyone rates that one super high. And you always let's go to HR Blood and Guts before the end of the night. And it's like okay. Ryan: I love it. Okay, I d d I can't talk about it yet. I think it's I think it's strictly because you just don't have again connection to Aili: Don't get it. Ryan: Halloween Hornight's Charity: Yeah. Ryan: past. I will say I can I can agree with you. I think it's very cheesy. I think that's the point. Do we're supposed to have Charity: It is very Yeah. Ryan: a campy house ever like we do we have a campy house every year. There's always one house that's slightly campy, it's slightly silly, it's slightly I think this is supposed to be that house just because HR Blood and Guts isn't a s really serious. Character. Charity: Yeah. What he said. Ryan: And I don't like how short the rooms are. Charity: I don't like how short that's the I that is, I think, out of my two complaints for the entire thing, I think that's one of my complaints is that the rooms are so short. Ryan: The rooms are too short. I don't like that. I don't like the that the pumpkin Charity: Like you walk in, you walk out. Ryan: spice room is literally you the like you walk in and walk out. You turn a corner and that's it. The the monster's day off or whatever, you just walk across and I don't even think that scaracter in that room jumps at you. He just dances. Charity: Well don't get into your opinion too much. We can get into your opinion when you get to yours. Ryan: Well, I'm I'm going in I'm going into my like my negative opinions because I at least talking about it so low. But yeah, okay. I was just trying to stall because my next one is extremely controversial. And it's also I think the biggest jump of a house from a hype list to a ranking Aili: It's sinners. Ryan: in so in in anything, it's sinners. Aili: my gosh. Ryan: My number eight is sinners. Aili: You don't get it. Charity: You don't get it yeah, Ryan: It is Aili: That's all that's all I got. You just don't get it. You're a fake fan? Charity: like why? Why? Why? Why is it so low for you? Ryan: It's I Charity: Fake fan? Ryan: No, I love Sinners. I think the movie is so good. The movie is so good. It is one of the I think it's one of the best movies. But I think the house just it's it has so many flaws. It has so many flaws. Charity: What like Like what? Ryan: I think you miss like the scene where you're supposed to be fighting the vampires inside of the juke joint is so underwhelming. Like you literally you walk around the bar, you have Bo shooting at a vampire that's a a static vampire on the second floor. You have maybe one vampire jump out at you, and then you're outside and you're in the woods. I don't like the screens in this house. I do not like the use of screens in this house. The use of screens in the I Lied to You scene, I think it is very underwhelming. I think the final scene in the house is very underwhelming. I find the entire house underwhelming. Charity: Okay, okay. Ryan: For what I was expecting going into this event and what I was hoping for with this house, it is very lacking. And that could be literally me. Like this could be my expectations were too high. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: But I just think the entire house is underwhelming. And there's also not enough what's her name? I'm blanking on her name right now and but I can't even think of the actress's name right now. What's her name? Hayley Steinfeld. Charity: Haile Stein. Ryan: Hayley Steinfeld's character. Aili: Hughie Steinfeld. Mary. Ryan: Not Mary, there's not enough Mary. Why is she only in one scene? Why is she only in one scene? There's not enough Mary. And then why is why is Remick's face in the final in the in the final scene? Why is it a mask? Why isn't it a prosthetic? Why is it a mask? Charity: 'Cause that'd be hard to do every night. Ryan: They do it for others for other characters. They do it for others because it would be it wouldn't be like you wouldn't like start from scratch when you do that prosthetic every night. You would make it for the actor and you literally just put it on with latex glue. And then I think the the use of it being a mask is giving very much Hollywood's Halloween whore nights and it's them being too lazy to actually do the makeup. 'Cause that's what Hollywood does is like the Terrifier mask from last year for for Hollywood, Terrifier, he was wearing a mask. So he had no facial expressions. And I think that's it's Charity: Interesting. Ryan: I think it's just lack. Yeah. That's my number eight, sinners. Charity: Dang, well I I agree with some things, but not most of Ryan: I think I can go into my number seven because it has been mentioned. I don't know. Has any of the houses been mentioned for your number seven or anyone? Anyone? Charity: No, go ahead. Ryan: Okay, so my number seven is Stranger Things five. And I know everybody's gonna be on here if you've listening. Stranger Things over Sinners is ridiculous. Charity: Yeah, that is a little Ryan: I just I I just and hear me out. I think everything in Stranger Things Five, the house, up until so right after you go to the Max Z, so with the the giant room with Will and the Demogorgon. I think after that scene, the house is garbage. But I think the house is so strong from everything before it. And I think Stranger Things 5 is overhated to an extent. Do I think the ending is garbage? Yes, I do. Do I wish Nothing's gonna be Stranger Things One. Nothing's gonna be the Stranger Things One house. But I think Stranger Things Five. Everything up until after the Macaze and you go to Dimension X. is better than Stranger Things Four. The Stranger Things Four House. Cause the Stranger Things Four House was utter garbage. And yeah, that's that's my number seven is streaming to things five for right now. It could it could go lower. Again, Charity: Interesting. Ryan: again, I want to I think we all just keep prefacing this is this is our initial it's Charity: It's just opening, yeah. Ryan: opening weekend, this is just our initial reactions. Like all of this could change by the end of the season. Like Madlands could wow me one night and shoot it up. Cause it's very like I don't know how how easy it is for houses to change in your ranking list for y'all, but I could get one amazing run through of a house and it can shoot it up five. Charity: I've never ranked before, so I'm interested to see how it changes throughout the season. my number seven was Ozzy Osborne. Ryan: Ooh. Charity: You know, I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. Honestly, from I I think I loved all of the houses almost equally. Almost equally. there's just some things that I liked a little bit more than others. That's why it was so hard for me to do my list. and it was kind of I had to make the list backwards of like what what was a little bit less than what I loved more. so obviously Evil Dead Hellraiser at the very bottom. but it was hard for me to pick where everything else was going. Ozzie Osborne is just at the bottom just because it it didn't wow me. I thought there were a lot of really cool things in the house. nothing really scared me. thought it was cool, but it wasn't you know Just another music house. So that's it. That's my two cents. The dark room did freak me out though. Ryan: Okay. Charity: So Ryan: I don't I don't know why I w I don't know why I was reacting like I did. For Ozzy, but Charity: 'Cause 'cause yours is probably close. But yeah, I don't know. I like I said, I really I think I loved all of the houses. Everything everything from eight to one I love almost equally. so take these with a grain of salt. But I don't know. I did I did think it was fantastic. him coming and almost falling on us, the bat eating the head, like you said, was a great prediction and it was really funny to see. The second I saw it, I like, Ryan's right about something for once. Ryan: Wow. Charity: So so yeah, that's my seven Eiley. Aili: My number seven is Evil Dead Burn. 'Cause I thought it was just so movie accurate. And I didn't even like the movie. I also wrote lasagna burnt down. I didn't like the movie and I didn't like the lasagna, but I like the house. Granny going upstairs. That was so funny. Ryan: That was hilarious. Aili: I liked I specifically pointed out to Ryan the blood on the silverware and the dishwasher. that was so good. And all of the dad characters looked like the dad. Like every single one of them looked like the original actor. Charity: Well then it turned into a it turned into a mask at one point, didn't it? And that really freaked me out. Ryan: I th no, 'cause that's a that was a d that was a different character. Charity: okay. 'Cause one of the characters originally was a face character and then it turned into a mask and that really just freaked me out and I didn't like it. I just Aili: But I also like that the dog was in there. Like I completely forgot about well I can't believe I forgot about the dog, but I forgot about the dog and then I saw the dog and it's like Ryan: I like that I like I really like that they did that they chose to not do that scene from the movie. Aili: Yeah. Ryan: And I like the use of the dog. I do like the Aili: I like that the dog was included though. Ryan: use of the dog. Because spoiler alert, the dog does turn into a dead height. So I think that's cool. Aili: Poor guy. six is Ozzy. Because I f I don't it's it's good but I didn't think it was the best thing there. And I really Charity: Yeah. Aili: like the dark room. Especially when Ryan's there. Ryan: Okay. But I think I wanna say this. I feel like Ozzy is like is a second house out of all the houses this year to really scare you. I think I've heard Charity: What? Ryan: you scream the most. Aili: Like me specifically? Ryan: Yes, you specifically. Aili: I think that dark room is the worst. But my gosh, the one guy we keep seeing. He scared me every sing well, two times, every time we've gone through that house. But he's so good at it, like right in Ryan: Yeah. Aili: your face and then gets back. I don't know, I feel like a lot of these houses scare me. But that one was I don't have any connection to Ozzy Charity: the Aili: Osbourne. Charity: Yeah. I thought the train was really cool walking through that. Aili: Mm-hmm. I like the big guy. Ryan: That's where I can go into my my number six. Is my number six is Ozzy. And that's why I was like, why did I say ooh to you saying that Ozzy's number seven? Ozzy's number six for me. Reason being is I just don't have a connection to Ozzy. I think the house is really cool. I really like the use of the music. I really like the Bark at the Moon sequence with right after the the pitch black room. When you're in that like the graveyard or whatever and you have the the werewolf Aussie. I love the crazy train sequence. I think it's so cool that you're on the crazy train and I r I love the conductor, that big guy. I love the conductor. I love how he just at least for me, he's just he waddle every time I've seen him, he's just waddling back and forth. He's not like scaring. Aili: I feel like he always scares people behind us though. Ryan: Yeah. Aili: Like something happens in that room that we just don't see. Ryan: I need him to scare me because I think the stilt walkers in houses are one of the scariest things ever, because I feel like they always have long arms to go with them and they could easily just whack you upside the head because their arm isn't their arm. Charity: They could take you out. Ryan: That's Ozzy's my number six and it I think it's just 'cause I don't have a connection and I think the other houses ahead of this are are just better. Charity: So my number six is Mad Lands. I really liked it. I yes, it is very the first time I went through it, it was very Mad Max-y. And I was like, this is awful, and that's exactly what we didn't want. We didn't want Mad Max. And when we originally saw the art for the scare actors, we instantly thought Mad Max. And so we didn't like it. But but I like the story. I like the mole rats. They really crack me up. I like that there is a storyline that you can follow and you're going through and you see the rhino, you know, making the masks and stuff like that. And, you know, if you're able to really unfocus from everything going on around you and look at the zoo that you're in, it it it's really cool. I think it's great. anyways. Let's move on to number five. Eiley, do you wanna move on to your number five? Aili: My number five is Jack and Oddfellow because it's another one of the houses. Ryan: Get out, get out, get get out, Charity: Get out yeah. Ryan: get out, get out. You know, Eileen, Charity: Nah, Eileen, you're fired. Ryan: Eileen, yeah, Eileen, you're not allowed You're not allowed in any episode from now on. I'm sorry. So there are there's there's Aili: Listen, listen, listen. Charity: Eilee Eile Ryan: things so there's these things called opinions, and Aili: Ha ha ha Ryan: then there's there's facts and Jack and Oddfellow being anywhere. Okay, okay, I'll listen. I'll listen. At least it hit number five. I I Aili: Okay, okay, okay. Listen, listen. I I Charity: Being not top three is crazy. Ryan: like, I like at least that it's at least it's in your number five. Aili: It's not like number it's also one of the houses that I just don't have a connection to because last year was my first year, Jack didn't exist for me. So like I'm learning the lore as I go and I feel like every time I go into the house I learn something new about it, and I unlock the lore. So I put next to this that it is moving up, but right now it's five. Because It just doesn't it doesn't get me and I don't get it. Ryan: Okay. Okay. I'll ex I'll I'll accept that. Aili: But I love Jack. 'Cause I know the guy now. I know the g well, I haven't Ryan: Not odd fellow. You you don't like Aili: really had any kind of interactions with Oddfella. He's more like a distant cousin. Ryan: Ha ha ha. Aili: Mm. Charity: That's funny. Ryan: I'll g I'll go into my number five 'cause it was brought up. I forgot who brought it up. No charity brought it up. My number five is invasion. And reason being, I think this stayed the same for my hype list. If I'm not mistaken, Invasion was no invasion was my number four on my hype list. Okay, so it did, it moved down. And I think reason being is like it was just expectation. Expectation versus execution. I think it is executed really well. I really like the facade. I really like all the rooms. I the vibrating floor is so cool. I wish it was in the house longer. Charity: No, it was I don't wanna cut you off. It was really great doing premium scream night. But because we had nobody behind us, we really quickly walked past the vibrating floor, but I ripped my mom back and I said, stand here. and so we got to stand there for Ryan: That's funny. Charity: a good couple of seconds and actually experience it. And then we walked out. Sorry, go ahead. Ryan: That's really cool. I I think the aliens, they are grey. They are they're very cool looking. Yes, they're repetitive. They're very cool looking. And I really like that. I like I like seeing grandpa being taken away and being ripped in half from his wheelchair. I think it's really funny. For some reason, I just it makes it made me laugh both times going through it. Charity: See, I don't think I saw any of that. I like I guess I just I feel like I don't really remember the house. Ryan: Okay. there's this one I know it that that is crazy. Aili: That's a crazy thing to say though. Like if we weren't talking about horror nights I liked seeing grandpa being ripped in half. That was my favorite part. Ryan: Eileen, I know you're gonna bring this up when you bring up invasion. But the little guy, the little the very short alien it's He was just random. I wasn't expecting him. Aili: I loved him. He was just so random. It's like we walk through the house with it it's just out of nowhere. That was the best part of the house. Ryan: And I wish. Charity: Again, cringy. Ryan: I think it is one of those things where expectation did not or execution did not meet expectation. I was expecting to feel uncomfortable in this house. I was expecting to feel scared, feel claustrophobic, Charity: Yeah. Ryan: like they brought up. I was expecting to I don't know. I was like I wanted to feel like I was actually gonna be abducted by an alien in this house, and I just didn't feel that. And I think that's the only reason why it went down. It's still in my top five for this year. It could get better. But yeah, I just didn't get those I didn't get the feeling that I wanted to with the house. But other than that, it's a great house. I love the set. I love the set deck. I think it's really funny that you follow the same house path as Charity: Patch it in chains. Ryan: Hatchet and Chains, thank you, charity. I couldn't I was blanking on the name. You follow a an exact path as the museum house and Hatchet and Chains. Like that first room, you walk in, you make a slight left, go, and then you make a right an immediate right. Charity: That was the other thing with the houses this year. I feel like maybe it's just because we're not conga line it wasn't a conga line through the houses. We kept almost turning into the wrong like area. Ryan: I will bring that up. I'm gonna bring that up in a later house. Charity: Okay. Because I think it specifically I ca I wanna say it was Evil Dead Burn, but it might not have been. We 'cause you were going yeah, it was Evil Dead Burn. You walk in and I thought I was supposed to go around the door as you're walking into the house. Nope, scare actor right there. Like instant scare. And I was like, well, it didn't really scare me. It just kinda shocked me because I didn't expect someone to be there. And I was like, my god, I'm so sorry. And I instantly ran the other way. So I'm pro I'm sure I probably scared Ryan: That's really funny. Charity: them too. They probably didn't expect me to. pop up in their face. I felt so bad. Ryan: That's really funny. That's really funny. Charity: But but yeah. Is it my turn for five? Ryan: I th I I think it is your turn for five. Charity: My number five is Stranger Things. Ryan: Stranger Things five for at number five. Charity: Yes. The ol okay. I hated this house. But the first half of it before you get to Dimension X or before you get to the upside down, I thought was fantastic. You know, going through the woods, seeing Will seeing Will get strung high up. I thought it was all great. it wasn't until you got to Dimension X where it really was just weird. just screens what? Ryan: That reminds me, that was one thing that I was disappointed about in Stranger Things Five House. It was it should have been a double scare. The scene I brought this up when we talked about when we were doing our hype list or when we were just talking about the house. Why is it that we walk past them? So the demogorg, you after walking from the upside down the first room, the second room, you're in the wheeler house, you have the demogorgon jump out first, and then Miss Wheeler jump out on the other side of the room. Why was that not planned out to be a double scare? Where you where a demogorgon comes out on one side of you, Mrs. Wheeler comes out at the other side. Why was it not a double scare? Charity: instead of you watching both at the same okay, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, and also the fact that she doesn't say anything. What does she say in the show? She says something. Ryan: She d no, she does say something in the house. I think there's two audio triggers. Yeah. Charity: okay. but yeah, no, it was I don't know. I thought it was it I thought it was cool. I again we talk about walking into these movies, walking into the shows, watching walking into things and really feeling admirt immersed in it as much as As much as I didn't like Stranger Things, it did feel very immersive and I liked it. And also it made me laugh as the actors were walking into the house and the only people that aren't covered are the demigorgons, which you think would be the one character that would be covered. it's really funny, so I don't know. It is I am a hundred percent positive that it will get kicked down the list. it was just my first initial walkthrough that I was like, Okay, this is cool. But I know it's gonna get kicked. Ryan: Eile, do you wanna do do you wanna add anything to the Stranger Things before I say something about it before you move on? No, because you already said your piece on Stranger Things. Aili: I said my peace. Ryan: So it definitely one thing that's really cool from being on Twitter and seeing the unmasking the horror tours. There's a demogorgon on the ceiling in one of the rooms that they've been trying to do this since they did the second house. Actually seeing the demogorgon's face close and open. It's an animatronic, but in the ceiling, the demogordon's face, it pops out a little and it opens. Charity: Okay. I don't know if I saw that. I saw the one I don't know if it was in the car or if it was in the laundry mat or the laundry room. it was Ryan: you're talking about the laundry the laundry room where it pops out. That one of the demodogs. Yeah. Charity: Yeah, but it's closed. It's not Ryan: No, it's another scene. It's in the ceiling. Charity: okay. Ryan: Yeah. That's really cool, just that they c finally got it done. But this house Charity: Yeah. Ryan: definitely feels like a We know you guys don't like Stranger Things. We had a deal with Netflix to make this house. Here you go. We're not bringing it back. Charity: Here you go. Yeah. Ryan: But I do wanna say I did bring this up and I think if they ever wanted to bring Stranger Things back ever again, I think it would be really cool as a scare zone, have the Demogorgans walking around in the scare zone, Central Park, make it turn into the upside down, have it be like how the Hawkins show is or whatever, where it's like a like it's just a mashup. Charity: that was the other thing. When you when you walk into the upside down and it starts the the spores are coming out of the ceiling. I really liked that. I thought that was so cool. Ryan: I do really like that. I wish we spent more time in the upside down on this house. Charity: so let's go ahead and move on to our number fours. Ryan: All right. Does it who want Shreddy, do you want to go into your number four? Charity: sure. My number four was Sinners. I didn't expect to like the house that much. but I I really liked it. I thought it was great. It has good scares in it. It's got good music. It's got they got really good actors in there this year. So I loved it. I thought it was great. And I think I think centers will stay closer to the top. Brian, do you wanna go into your number four? Or can anybody peg no you guys already talked about. Ryan: No, I w Eileen I Eiley can go into number four if she wants. Aili: My number four is invasion. And I'm kind of surprised, Ryan, that you didn't put it higher on your list. Cause you were you were initially like terrified of that one. I was like, well, how scary could aliens be? And you're like, well, they're gonna make them so scary. And they're just aliens. But number four. Because mainly because of the scare outside. That's fire. You didn't. Ryan: I didn't bring up that. I've completely forgot about that. Aili: And that's the best part. But also like when you're walking into the house and there's the truck and the tractor and fog and it's just so cool. Charity: It was really cool, yes. Ryan: I will say I do think I do think Invasion Aili: It's so like alien invasion-y. Ryan: I do think Invasion is the best f facade this year. At least one of the best facades this year. Charity: Yeah. Yeah, I can agree with that. Ryan: Which that's another thing, invasion being low or at least just of five and not higher, is because I still think that this house would have been better if it was the cheesy house. The cheesy house. I think it would like if it was like like meant to be the cheesy house. Where it was like ali Alien at Charity: Yeah, I think the fact that they said Ryan: Lightning Gulch. I really want it to be Alien at Lightning Gulch and it just it didn't deliver. Mm. Do you have anything more to say? I feel I feel bad. I keep cutting people off, but I just have so much to say about this entire event. No, Eiley? You're shaking your head now. So we're gonna I'm gonna go into my number four. Aili: No. Ryan: My number four my number four is HR blood and guts. HR Charity: Interesting. Ryan: blooding guts. Basically, my only reason that this is at number four is because everything else above this is just ultimately better. It's ultimately better in every way. I love I had such a great interaction the last time I went through HR Blood and Guts with Blood and Guts himself and the Pumpkin Lord. I loved it. H.R. Blood and Guts made a heart, heart hands to me when I was clapping for him when he was talking about his return at the entrance of the house. And then the pumpkin lord tasted me because Aili: He tasted me, he tasted me. Ryan: I was wearing the pumpkin lord shirt. And he literally like his finger went like half an inch away from my face. And he just skims it past my head and then puts it, he puts his finger on his mouth and then goes, mmm. And I just it was it was it was great. And I think all the all the house all the rooms are really cool. I really like the smells in this house. The smells are very strong in this house. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: And they're all good smells. None of them are bad smells. Which is great, thankfully. Charity: Right. Ryan: So HR Blooding Guts, I love you and you will definitely be one of my favorite houses for just how fun you are. But I'm sorry all the other house the the last three houses that I have on this list are just ultimately better for all their own reasons. Charity: So so I lied. I lied. Originally when I made my list, Sinner was was supposed to be my number four. but that's because of information I learned later on and I meant to ch I meant to change it. Sinner's supposed to be my number three and HR Blood and Guts is supposed to be number four. Ryan: Well then perfect. You can move us on to to numbers your number three slash what was supposed to be number four. So talk about HR blood and guts. Charity: Number four. Yeah. So again, I I loved HR Blood and Guts. I thought it was great. I really loved all of the details in the room. I feel like it's so detailed going through everything because you are only in the rooms for a short second. and so to be able to get the full story of each room in those two seconds is definitely a talent to Universal's teams. But I didn't get to see the pumpkin lord on my walk my first walkthrough. My only walkthrough so far. so that's why I I forgot that I was trying to put it lower on the list and I forgot my little note on the side. I just ignored it. so yes, so technically HR Bloody Guts is my number four, Sinners is my number three, but that's just because I didn't see the Pumpkin Lord. But the second I see him, best believe it's going to number one. Cause y'all know I love Pumpkin Lord. That's my two cents. Ryan: That's what someone asked me today on online, they asked me, they said, Who's your favorite icon? And I was talking about this with Eiley the last time we were at Horror Nights. I think Jack is my favorite just because he's Jack. And I mean who doesn't freaking love Jack the Clown? But if you like, if I had to go deep down, the pumpkin lord is my favorite icon. And the pumpkin lord Charity: Yeah. Ryan: is my favorite icon because is he's also the first of the new icons that I experienced. Like he was the brand new icon. HHN31 when he was officially announced as an icon. That was my first time experiencing a new icon. Because I experienced the icons with HHN30, but they weren't. brand new, like everybody already had their connections to them. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: So being able to say that I have a new icon that I got to experience, it just it's like a deep connection. And also just cause the pumpkin lord is so freaking cool. Charity: I y I think that's why Ryan: He just burps and farts in your face and it's hilarious. Charity: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's why I I I do have such a deep connection. And I don't think if you could have heard me walking past his pumpkin, I was like, are we supposed to get pumpkin lord? Where is he? Why is is is that is it just a tease? Are we just getting like why would they do that? Why would they put his pumpkin there and not the pumpkin lord? Like I was so upset walking through and I was and I even said I was like, I really want to do it again just to see if maybe he's there. But then my mom didn't want to. And she said I could go by myself, but I didn't want to go by myself. So I missed out. And now I wish I would have went and did it again, 'cause it would have made it probably would have been at my number one. Ryan: Interesting. Interesting. Just to Charity: Probably not. But Ryan: see. That's I think that's something that's so cool though is that these houses, like one little thing could change rankings. I think that's really Charity: Change the entire thing, yeah. Ryan: cool. So the last thing I want to say about HR Blood and Guts before we move on is that at the end of the house it says s stay tuned and he pops out and he says What's that about a cliffhanger? A lot of people think that they are teasing that HR blood and guts because of how popular he has been just from these few nights already. But they already like I mean they plan this, they they plan this beforehand, but people are speculating this with this ending. He could be the icon for next year. Charity: interesting. Ryan: Which I think would be really cool to officially Charity: That would be cool. Ryan: turn him into an icon. Cause he's in he's an icon. There's two things at Halloween. Charity: Yeah. Iconic character. Ryan: Yeah, he's an iconic character, but he's not considered an icon. And I think it'd Charity: Yeah. Ryan: be really cool to see him as an icon and have a whole th year themed after like a radio station or a TV station. Like I could already see it now. Like the entrance Charity: It is really Yeah. Ryan: facade having like the rate the WKNB radio tower. Charity: Which is really cool walking into the house and seeing that. And then the prison van crashed into the side. It was really cool. Ryan: Yeah. Right, Eiley, do you wanna go Charity: Way better than dolls. Ryan: way better than dolls for sure. Do you wanna go into your number three, Eileen? Right, we're on number three. Aili: Hellraiser. Hellraiser. Charity: Yeah, number three. Ryan: Okay, yeah. How raiser? Aili: Primarily because of that one scare where he comes off out of the wall. He comes out of the wallussie. Ryan: the curtain? Aili: Yeah. Cause it scared the crap out of you and then it scared the crap out of me the second time we went through. And I knew he was gonna I d you said he poked out, I thought he like and he fully like came out of the wall. Ryan: No, he f full on comes out. Yes. Aili: So I thought I think Frank's room was also really cr Frank's hell room was also really cool. Yeah, it's nice just seeing like I know that place. Ryan: I know, I think that's really cool. And that's where Hellraiser is my number three is because it's so accurate to the movies. And I love and maybe it's just like recency bias of we just watch the movies, and so I'm like, okay, I know these scenes and it's really cool to go through these scenes. Or is it also that the house is really cool? I think the house is really cool. Like walking into the the lament sex box. That's really cool. And then w the first room that you go in the first like official room that you go into inside of the Lament when you're in hell or the torture realm is Pinhead on the stage saying, We have such sights to show you. I think that's so cool. And then he pointed at you. Yeah. Aili: and he pointed at me That shot we have such shapes to show you Okay show me Ryan: I just I think I think I think the house is really good and it I it's it's shocking. It's shocking how well they did it and I'm not I'm shocked because I didn't think I was gonna like it as much. Like it shot up. Pretty high. Hellraiser was Hellraiser was number six and it shot up to number three. So moving up three is really impressive for a house that I didn't care about the movies as much. Aili: It was also at number six for me. Charity: 'Cause you had already watched the movies when Ryan: What was that? Aili: It was also at number six for me and went to three. So Ryan: Wow. Aili: you're copying my list. Ryan: I I don't even I don't know your list. Charity: You're copying her list. Ryan: You don't know my list. Aili: Yeah. Ryan: Jerdy, what were you saying? Charity: You had watched the movies before you made your hype list, right? Ryan: I did not wa I did watch the movies before I made my final hype list, yes. Cause we watched the Charity: Okay. Yeah. Ryan: movies before Hellraiser was even announced. We watched them because they it was heavily speculated. Like it was like on the spec map for so long that I was like, it's gonna be I Charity: that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ryan: think it was right after watching the first movie, it got announced. Cause then we watched the second one and third because they said it was based off the first three movies. Charity: Interesting, interesting. Ryan: But yeah, that that leads us on to our number two. So we're almost there. We So charity, I think you and I have very similar is one and two. Charity: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ryan: Eile, one of them is the same. And I think I I feel like we all have the same number two. I actually feel like we all have the same number Charity: Probably. Yeah. Ryan: two. But I want to say this before my number one and number two kept have swapped back and forth all day today. When we were when I'm like plan like I'm sitting here, like I'm at work, it's going back and forth, one and two, one and two. And then ultimately My number one hit my number one because I can't I have not been able to stop thinking of the house specifically since the first time going through it. Charity: Interesting. Interesting. Ryan: So since I feel like we all have the same number two, I re Charity: Go Go ahead. Ryan: I'm gonna go. My number two is Cybergoria. Charity: Yeah, okay. Ryan: Eile, you too? Eiley, yeah. Aili: Yeah, yeah. Charity: Go. Ryan: So all of all of ours is three. So I think this is so cool that we all have the same number two so far. The house is so freaking scary. Charity: It's so good. I love it. Ryan: It's so scary. I'm telling you, after going through it the first time, I had to sit down after I was like, I had like I had to like sit and think about what I just went through and be like What the freak? Charity: Yeah, no, it was definitely it I really don't have words for it. Like the girl the the girl, the the robotic voice telling you to calm down. Don't go outside. Don't go outside. Don't leave. Really just w I think that scared me more than the things like getting in your face because it was like I don't know, it was just creepy. It was just really creepy. I don't have any complaints for the house. I think it's great. Ryan: Like it it's so crazy that a house that has so many, like all of the scares look the exact same. All of the scaractors look Charity: I Ryan: the exact same. They have slight differences, they have slight differences, but a lot Charity: Yeah. Ryan: of them look the exact same. So when a house like that and it's re like, I mean the scares are repetitive, but it's it's it's so like each of the scaractors a treat their characters so differently that it does not the house does not feel repetitive. Charity: And then also you've got like blood dripping on you and stuff and Ryan: So I have a theory. I think you're actually below in that room when you have like you have like a graded ceiling and there's water dripping down on you. I actually think that because there's the poop smell shows up two times in this house. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: The first room that you walk into Charity: Yes. Ryan: and the dripping room. And I think the dripping room, it's either blood, it's either Charity: so you think we're underneath the free we're underneath the freezing and the freezing is Ryan: The free the freezers people and if we're in it's their poop dripping on us. I either think it's that or is blood, because I feel like their horror knights use it like the poop and their blood smell. They're very similar. And that smell is so gross, by the way. Charity: Yeah. I I I that's what I was gonna say. I don't think it's poop. It definitely smells like metallic. It's very just blood. Ryan: But still, that was the first thought that I had when I walked through the house the first time, and that disgusted me. I'm like, we're walking under these Charity: I thought as you were saying that it's like the bags are un melting and it's like the blood coming I don't know. Ryan: But no, that makes a lot of sense that it it probably is blood and that's probably that makes a lot of sense. Eileen, what do you wanna say? What do you wanna say? You've been quiet. I feel like you've been quiet. You've got something up your sleeve that you wanna talk about, Cybergoria. Aili: It's scary. That's the only house that I've like fully thrown myself back multiple times to try and get away from these people. But I'm also like walking through the house crouching because it's isn't that the one that has the wall coming out? Like it that's Ryan: They get in your face. It does. It has the wall coming out. Aili: creepy. Are we sure there's no one Ryan: And they get in your face. Aili: behind? There to try and touch you after Ryan: That's what I don't know if there's someone behind there. That's what that's what I'm that's what I'm scared about. Every single time that things popped out, it's been the group in Aili: Mm. Ryan: front of us and then it's deflated. But it's Aili: It touched me. Charity: Yeah, so it's it's not that it's it's not an inflatable, it's just kind of like a like a sheet and then Ryan: It's like a tarp that ju yeah. Charity: yeah. It's just like a sheet and then you there's just characters on the other side pushing, trying to escape. Ryan: That's freaking terrifying. See the the type of the type of Aili: my gosh. Charity: It was it was scary. but also it reaches out far enough that it touches you. Ryan: It so the f the scariness of Cyber Goria is what I expected invasion to be. The scariness of Cybergoria is what I expected invasion to be by their description. Charity: Yeah. Yes. And that's why I'm I'm happy that at least one of the houses kept what they're promised that it was gonna be absolutely horrifying. because it was absolutely horrifying. Ryan: Like I genuinely every time w we're like we're talking about like let's do Cyber Guria I'm like because like I've done Insidious, did Jason, those were scary houses. But I think they like and I I never thought that they'd top Insidious on a scary house. I thought Insidious was absolutely terrifying. But this house, like talking about it now, I'm scared. Like I'm like like reliving the moments. And I'm just like It's it's scary. And that's what I wanted to say. The people in front of us went the wrong way in this house. You're supposed to turn left and they went into it. Wasn't even a boo hole where a character was supposed to come out of. I think it was just like one Charity: Like an exit. Ryan: of those, like like one of those exits. But yeah, they went they fully walked through there. And then I was like, Charity: They just walked away? Ryan: they walked they walked in there. And then the then the first one like then one of them came out and then they all just came came back out behind us. Aili: She was like fully Charity: That's funny. Aili: gone though. Like if her one friend didn't pull her out, she wouldn't she wouldn't have figured Ryan: She was fully gone though. her yeah. Aili: it out. Charity: That's really funny. Ryan: That was I don't know. I'm excited to do it again, but I'm also like terrified. Like I've never been in a house on opening weekend where the scare actors have been not not afraid to full on get Charity: So good. Ryan: in your face. Charity: Yeah. So rather they're experienced scare actors or they're just I don't know. It was yeah. So I don't know. I have a feeling Ryan: Okay. Charity: it's staying. That one's staying right where it is. I I loved it. It was everything I wanted it to be. Ryan: And see, that's what I was saying. It kept flip-flopping with number one just because of how scary it was. And like that's what I want from Halloween Horror Nights. Like I want houses to be scary. Like I want them to deliver houses like Cyber Gorya every year. I want half the houses to be as scary as Cyber Gorya where I have to s take a seat afterwards and be like, what? Charity: Who's scaled? Ryan: So Eiley, do you wanna go into your number one since charity and I have the same number one? Aili: Yeah, what is it? Ryan: it's sinners. It's sinners. Aili: You know what it is. It's Sinners. I feel like this is the same kind of thing as last year with El Artista and Jason. Because they were my top two. And now Sinners and Cybergoria are my top two. So my sinners is my L Artista and Cybergoria is my Jason. Charity: Interesting. Yeah. Ryan: Interesting. Why is Cinners your LRTista? Aili: 'Cause it's just a cool house. And it's like movie accurate. But like every single This character in there looks like the actual character and it's crazy. But like Sammy on the stage The smoke and stack at the beginning. Like everything it was just so good. It was so good. And if you were a real Sinners fan, it would be higher on the list. But Charity: Exactly. Ryan: Not sure. I am a I am a Real Sinners fan and I just think I like I said, I think Aili: Mm, that's not what the list says. Ryan: it I think it's underwhelming. Aili: I'm not even I'm not mad. Okay. I thought L Artista was a little bit underwhelming. But it was just such a pretty house that it looks or it that it was good. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I lee, I don't think you're I I don't think you're gonna be welcomed back on the back on here after Aili: Ha ha ha. Charity: On the stuff. Ryan: what you've been saying. Charity: Whoa. Aili: Okay, everyone's been saying mainstream things. I'm here to break the chain. Ryan: Really, mainstream things. Everybody's saying mainstream Aili: I wasn't mad I was not mad about Remick's mask. Charity: You said you were or weren't? Aili: That's your biggest problem problem with it. I was not mad about it. Charity: See, I I didn't really like I saw it. I saw that it was a mask, but also that would be such a hard thing to do as a prosthetic that I it would be. that's why I like I didn't Ryan: Have you seen have you seen the other prosthetics at the event? They're harder prosthetics to do. Charity: Yes, Ryan, I've gone to Either way, I I understand. And then also, Ryan, you were talking about screens and I'm like screen Ryan: There's so many screens. There's so many screens. Charity: screens in the background don't bother me. We'll talk about screens in a second. and those bother me. Where where it is in place of a scare actor, those are the ones that bother me. But when it's just like using it for backgrounds, I don't care. Ryan: So Someone had this theory on Twitter and it makes a lot of sense. So the I Lied to You scene, it's a very open, it's very open. And what somebody said was the reason that space is open is because what if we are the spirits that are being led to, like we are the spirits that are being drawn by this music. And the reason it's so open is because we are supposed to be able to just step off to the side and vibe in there for a little bit. Which I think would be interesting if Charity: I lied to you, Cine. Ryan: when he's singing, when you enter the juke joint and he's singing. Charity: Okay. Yes. And there's Ryan: What if Charity: it's it's supposed to be they're all partying and then it turns into fire. Everything's burning down around him. Ryan: Yes, like the movie. But they're saying, what if we're the spirits that are being brought into the juke joint by his music and we're supposed to stay in that room for a little bit? Like we're allowed like we should be allowed to step aside and just vibe in there for a little bit, which I think would work if Halloween Horror Nights wasn't full of drunk people and conga lines. Like premium Scream Night's a perfect example where you probably could have stayed in that room and hung out in there for a second before moving on. Charity: It's not that big. Ryan: But I think the fact it is, it's big. It's big. Like there's there's like there's enough for at least like five people to hang out in that room before moving on. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: If we weren't conligned, that's what I'm saying. But we're conglind. I think they shouldn't have done that. And I think they should have added scare actors in there that were just dancing. You've done it before in other houses where you have just a scare actor dancing. They could have done Charity: Yeah. Ryan: it there where they had other people in there. I think if there were more scare actors in there to make the room feel live rather than just Sammy on the stage and then the people dancing as a screen, again, it's replacing scare actors with a screen. Charity: Okay. Okay. I follow you, yeah. Ryan: And I wish he wasn't on stage. I wish there was one of those things where we did like a U-turn around him where we're in the room. We enter the room one side and then kind of do a U-turn around him rather than him being on a stage as like a show moment. And he's in the middle of us. Cause in the house or in the movie, he isn't on a stage. He's in the center, he's like in the center of the room. He's walking around the room. Which I understand you can't have him walking around the room, but I d I just Charity: Yeah. Ryan: think like that would have been I don't know. I just again I think it was lackluster. I d I Eile, please talk more about why you love the Sinners House. Charity: Yeah, we kinda took it away from you. Aili: Did you also think that Sammy was behind like plexiglass or a screen or something? Cause I walked into that Yeah. Ryan: The first t the first time we went through, yes I did. Aili: When we walk like the way the lights are, I walked in it, I was like, is he real? Ryan: I thought he was behind scene and I was thinking, it's because w they're gonna do it where we're gonna see the fire in front of him or something and then Charity: Yeah, I didn't see that. Aili: I just had to make sure I wasn't crazy. Ryan: Anything else you wanna say before we get into Jack I mean our number one? Charity: No. Ryan: Let it sit there. Aili: No go ahead. Ryan: Check it out, fellow! Number one. I have not Charity: Jack and Oddfellow. Number one. Woo. Ryan: been ab I have not been able to stop thinking about this house since going through it the first time. It is Charity: No. Yeah, it's definitely insane. Ryan: I freaking, let's talk in let's start with the negatives because I feel like we both have very similar negatives, which is the use of screens. Charity: It's it's sh screens, yeah. especially 'cause W was it last year's? Trying to think. There there's there's been a couple of houses where you've got two people fighting. And I wanna say it might have been the Dueling Dragons one, but I don't think it was. very similar to Dueling Dragons, mind you. No it wasn't, but it th it's the ha it's the big heads at the end popping out at you. That made me think of it. What was it? There's something where you've got scare actors that are above you welcome you in Ryan: Beetlejuice. Charity: as No, not j it wasn't Ryan: Beetle juice. Charity: Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse you see him at the beginning. But it's halfway through the house where they're but they're up there, they're Ryan: But that's all that's but yes. Charity: telling you to pick a side. Maybe it was art as well. Ryan: It was art. It was art that was telling you to pick a side. But they're not telling you to pick a side in this house. Like you just you go through the Charity: I underst Ryan: the skull. Charity: that's what I'm trying to say though. You we've had actors up there before Ryan: Yes. Charity: and the fact that it was screens really, really irked me. especially because the Ryan: I do, I I do agree. Charity: screens don't even look good. it looks so Ryan: The screen does not look real. Which Jordan Hill, I apologize. I know you do so much great stuff for Horror Knights in there, the video team and everything. I don't like the screen on top of the skull. Another screen I do not like is the Vortex Tunnel. Why is it not physical? I under s I understand. Charity: See, that one doesn't that one didn't bother Ryan: I understand you wanted to have Jack being stretched all about Charity: That one didn't bother me as much. I understand it. But it didn't bother me. Like I didn't I didn't think of it as it trying to make you dizzy. I just thought it Ryan: Cause that's the point. You're supposed to be dizzy. And the fact that I feel Charity: I didn't think of Ryan: like the screen doesn't do that to an extent, maybe to some people, but to me. Charity: I don't think it's supposed to. I think it's just supposed to be you're watching him get stretched around. Ryan: No. So because it's supposed to be a vortex Aili: It made me dizzy. Ryan: tunnel, because it's supposed to be a vortex tunnel, it is supposed to make you dizzy. The whole point is to make you disoriented. Which Beetlejuice does Charity: Interesting. Well Ryan: it. The Beetlejuice house did it amazingly. Because that was like the first Charity: Yeah. Ryan: room you walked into. And it was a physical, it was like a physical thing that was spinning around. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: And I just wish they did that with the Jack and Oddfellow. Maybe you should have put like a like a prop jack or something, like a like a mannequin jack. on it that was going around and then you had his body like like used his the fabric of his clothes to Charity: Spinning or something. Yeah. Ryan: to go around. But it's still it's it's such a good house. I have Charity: It is. Ryan: so much fun when you go into the sh when you go when you're about to go into the Shady Brook not Shady Brook. Yes, Shady Brook Charity: Yes, Shadybrook, the the Whack House. Yeah, thank you. Ryan: The penitentiary. The penitentiary. And you have that mangled Jack. And he goes, Jack is back. And it's just, it's so cool. And I always have so much fun. And I remember going through it for the very first time. And I'm literally like, I'm jumping for joy. And I'm ha I just I have so much fun. And I think it's really cool that they lean into this thing of the oddverse in this multiverse. So you see different versions of Jack the Clown. Like you see the game show host version of Jack the Clown. You see there Charity: Yeah, yeah. And you Ryan: you see a female version of Jack the Clown. You see there's just all of these like different versions of Jack the Clown. So it really shows that you're in this multiverse. Which do Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I like the idea of a multiverse? Not so much. Charity: trying to get off the Marvel hype, but Ryan: But I genuinely think the whole thing with the odverse is Halloween Horror Nights trying to be like, yeah, remember that thing from 10 years ago that you guys didn't like? That doesn't exist anymore. We're we're we're we're writing that off because it wasn't part of the odverse. Or let's say you didn't like something from this, you're like everybody's kind of complaining about chance's costuming. It's like, you don't like that? Don't worry, she'll be back to her her regular, her regular outfit. next next time we see her. That was just because she's part of the oddverse. I just feel like they're using those they're gonna use the oddverse Charity: Yeah. As a scapegoat. Ryan: to as a scapegoat. Charity: Just like Marvel does. Marvel's just using multiverse for their scapegoats. Ryan: So Charity: another thing. Ryan: So yeah. Charity: Yeah, no going through it, being the first one, walking through technically being the first Ryan: That's something that I'm s that's that's something that I'm z extremely jealous about is that you were the first guest. Like Charity: First per like a like first guests. Ryan: yeah, you were the first guest to go through this house. Not a team member, the first guest. Charity: Guests. And I don't think we talk about that enough. Ryan: And I I think Charity: So Ryan: that's I just that's really Charity: But yeah. Ryan: cool. Charity: Yeah, it was great. I it's fantastic. I I know I have the GoPro fitted footage of me walking up and I would like to edit together to make it look like a nice video because it's such a bad video. I don't know if it's because the way I'm walking fast, but it's so shaky. and it's really bad. So I've lost my GoPro privileges. Yeah. Ryan: You go pro privileges. That's I'll be making sure to get some I'm going tomorrow night, for getting content of filming the scare zones and getting photos and stuff. And that's gonna be Charity: And I will be there after Ryan: Really fun. Charity: work? Ryan: And we'll try to get some content. So speaking of content, Charity: Yeah. Ryan: if you I I'm the I'm gonna skip ahead and just say this. If you haven't already, be sure to follow the podcast so you don't miss any future episodes. And also follow at Park Dice Pod on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube where the walkthroughs of the scare zones will most likely be. Charity: Yep. Ryan: We have really cool things coming up. I kinda skipped ahead. So and that's everything that we've talked about or that we have on the opening weekend of Halloween Horror Nights thirty five, is there anything else just about the event in general that you wanna get out before it possibly changes within the next few weeks? Charity: No. The only thing I have to say is I think my expectations for at least five or six of the houses were really low. I wasn't excited for them. Like I wasn't excited for Madlands. Wasn't excited for Stranger Things. Wasn't excited for Sinners. and I think because I wasn't excited for them, them being so great. made them so great to me. And I think that's why I'm so happy. Ryan: That's something that you didn't bring up, actually, is Madlands. There's no monkeys. Charity: There yeah, there's no monkeys. I there it does sound like monkeys, but I don't think it's supposed to be a monkey. I think someone just sounds like a monkey. and I'm not sure who it is. Anyways. But that's and that's probably why I like that house more than I thought I would, because there's no monkeys. There's not even gorillas or anything. But but I think that's why I have had so much more fun than you, Ryan, is because you were so overly excited. Then I feel like it was kind of like a overwhelming over Ryan: Yeah, I Charity: over expectation. Ryan: Again, again, that was opening weekend. Or not opening weekend. That was opening day. Like I said, Saturday and Sunday Charity: Again. So yeah. So I feel like Ryan: were so much better. I enjoyed Charity: 'Cause you guys did a lot Sunday after I left. You guys did five more houses and the show. Ryan: Yeah. Charity: So but that's that's that was the only thing I had to say. I feel like because I had such low expectations, everything's been so great. and I hope it stays that way because I'm having so much fun this year already. Like I like I'm excited to go Wednesday, even though I know it's only gonna Ryan: No, I'm Charity: be for a short bit. Like I'm so excited to go. Ryan: I'm so excited to go back just 'cause like again, like I said, opening day was it just terrible and if we filmed this if we filmed this before going the sec like before I went the second night, I probably would have said, This year's terrible. Like I w Charity: Yeah. Ryan: I would have probably said like this year's terrible. Like I was but then like how well and how much opening or opening day to the second day really like slingshot it to being really like me not liking it to me really liking it. It gives me a lot of hope that the rest of the season is just gonna snowball and become better and better as the season gets on. Charity: Yeah. Ryan: So Eiley, is there anything else that or anything that you'd like to add before? Aili: Yeah, yeah, I made bracelets, so trade with me. Ryan: Yeah, if you see us Charity: Yeah. Ryan: in if you see us at Halloween Horror Nights, feel free to say hi. We don't have too big of a fan base, but we love to meet people and become friends with y'all and Charity: We do, yeah. Aili: Trade bracelets. Ryan: and yeah, so trade bracelets. Aili: And if you have the letter A, please donate. I ran out. Ryan: And if you had the letter A, please donate. And yeah, so thank you, Eiley, for being in this episode and Charity: Yeah. Ryan: giving us your opinion and giving us everything about everything. Aili: I'm glad I could be the Charity: That didn't make sense, but thank you for being here, Eileen. Aili: everything about everything. I I'm glad I could be the different one. I don't follow the trends. Charity: I feel like you and you and Ryan: Really? Charity: Ryan had very similar lists up until the end. Aili: Mm-hmm. Charity: Whereas I had very different lists up until the end. Ryan: Yeah. But yeah, follow the podcast and on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and everywhere. Because we have so much coming up and we have so many things that we are so excited for, like actually this time. Like we we said that before, but this time we are so excited Charity: We're actually getting into doing the stuff now. Yeah. Ryan: to get into doing this stuff. And I'm I'm I'm extremely excited. Charity: Yes. Ryan: Yeah, so If that's everything, thanks for hanging out with us. Charity: That's my line. Well, if that's everything, thanks for hanging out with us. Ryan: And until next time, we'll see you on your next park day. Aili: Or maybe in the fog.