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#470 - Kevin Smiley · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo, it's Kevin Smiley. Check me out on the Bootleg
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  Speaker 1: keV podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, Bootleg keV show Man. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in here from Okachobe, Florida, Kevin Smiley. How you doing man,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome sir.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, man, I remember seeing your first song
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  Speaker 2: was Paralyzed, right, sir. I remember opening my phone one
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  Speaker 2: day and seeing it and then like within that whole week,
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  Speaker 2: it just everybody was posting it. It was going crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That was your first song.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like ever, that first song I ever recorded. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've written a few, but that was like the first
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  Speaker 1: real how old are you? I'm twenty now, so.
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  Speaker 2: You're twenty now? So when that came out with You're nineteen, yes, sir, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: damn that's crazy man. So super dope visual by the way,
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  Speaker 2: very strong. Whose idea was like, like, are you very
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  Speaker 2: hands on with the whole creative process?
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  Speaker 1: Not really with the visuals. That's more like my manager.
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  Speaker 1: He's a bit more of a film type of guy
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  Speaker 1: than you know obviously know our director, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So that was really much pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: Then give me some of your background because you know,
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  Speaker 2: you make country music and it is very it's dope
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I never thought i'd hear NBA Young
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  Speaker 2: Boy on the countrything. You have a new song with
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  Speaker 2: NBA Young Boy Free Him by the way, Yeah, called Mattador.
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  Speaker 2: You brought NBA Young Boy to the country world. Just
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  Speaker 2: kind of give me like a little bit of your
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  Speaker 2: background in terms of like what did you grow up
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  Speaker 2: listening to? How did you get into country music? Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Florida is like a it's the South, but it's like
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  Speaker 2: I always tell everybody, Florida is like its own country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bit of like.
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  Speaker 2: If you just break Florida off, like there's South Florida,
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  Speaker 2: which is like its own thing, and then there's like
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  Speaker 2: Central Florida, which is way different than Jacksonville. And you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's like its own little ecosystem
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  Speaker 2: of that's just separate from the world. So how did
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  Speaker 2: you kind of grow up listening to country and like
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  Speaker 2: like what got you into it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so be from Okey Chelby, Florida. It's a cattle town,
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  Speaker 1: really cow cattle, Yeah, cattle, Okay, so tons of cows,
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  Speaker 1: acchual cows. Cowboys are there, yeah, yeah, actual cowboys around
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  Speaker 1: and then like big fishing, like so we have a
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  Speaker 1: big bass tournament that happens on Lake Okechobee. So I
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  Speaker 1: grew up listening to just pretty much strictly gospel. My
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  Speaker 1: dad was a pastor, so we were just listening to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of gospel music and we'd go to different churches.
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  Speaker 1: I would have like what's called southern gospel, so that's
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  Speaker 1: vaguely similar to country music. Yeah. And then my best
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  Speaker 1: friend growing up, his parents were ranchers, so they're always
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  Speaker 1: playing country around the house and in the car and
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  Speaker 1: my brother we spent a lot of time with them.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how I really got into listening in the country.
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  Speaker 1: Then when I was like sixteen, that was COVID.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, that's so crazy. Yeah, it felt like that was yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: right like when I was sixteen. Then COVID.
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  Speaker 1: You're twenty now it's wild gentle minute. Yeah. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: I was just playing a bunch of two k and
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  Speaker 1: I hated the playlist. I mean, after like six months
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  Speaker 1: of hearing the same time, I don't want to hear
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  Speaker 1: it again.
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  Speaker 2: And you're stucking the house is all you got is Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I just put some some songs in my play list,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, with my dad in the past. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't really want me listening to too much, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hip hop and stuff, but everybody we need to listen
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  Speaker 1: to country around town. So I just put some songs
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  Speaker 1: on my playlist and they're the song in particular called
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  Speaker 1: Amla by Morning because it's a legend. George Straight, he's
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  Speaker 1: like the gold.
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  Speaker 2: Straight's the guy man, Yo, listen, I love me some
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  Speaker 2: George Straight. That what's that song? Throw? Uh just give
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  Speaker 2: it away?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: That ship? What's the one? Uh uh Ocean? That's my
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  Speaker 2: favorite Arizona Okay, yeah yeah, and then write this down,
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  Speaker 2: great song. And my favorite Troubadour. Oh my Trouber Door
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  Speaker 2: is a fucking banger.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a great song. Yeah. So yeah, So I
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  Speaker 1: just put some of his songs in my playlist. Put
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  Speaker 1: some you know Luke Comb's, Camee Brown, Thomas Redd, and
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  Speaker 1: you know some Alan Jackson. He's a Georgia boy, one of.
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  Speaker 2: My Alan Jacksons. O. G man, I remember I remember
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  Speaker 2: Alan Jackson when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just put them on my playlist and
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  Speaker 1: I started just listening to really heavy.
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  Speaker 2: Then.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been musical. I've been playing drums since I
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  Speaker 1: was set, even getting the church.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then I started playing guitar in the bass when I
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  Speaker 1: was eleven or twelve something around there. So then I
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  Speaker 1: just started posting on TikTok, just singing, singing these country songs.
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  Speaker 2: Like singing like stuff that was already out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, singing. I wasn't writing at the time. I
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  Speaker 1: had a video go viral. We had like five millions
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. So some producer him it was like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you can sing, but you gotta start writing your own stuff, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I started doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Was it harder to like put the thoughts in your
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  Speaker 2: head to paper to a melody? Uh not really? Would
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  Speaker 2: you like write with the guitar, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Write with the guitar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I just kind of figure out what kind of
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  Speaker 1: chords I wanted to do. Then I'll just figure out
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  Speaker 1: what kind of theme I want to write to. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: my first songs are horrible. Everybody you know should.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if your first song is Paralyzed's not terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Well that was so yeah. I just started doing that,
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  Speaker 1: started picking up steam a little bit. Then I got
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  Speaker 1: signed to my production company. Uh, flew out to Vegas
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  Speaker 1: and recorded Paralyzed here in Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think about Vegas? Being a Florida
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  Speaker 2: boy who grew up in the church life, did you
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  Speaker 2: did any of those Like did you walk the strip?
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  Speaker 1: No? I drove through it, so you gotta walk it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't done that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But people will pass you all these cards with phone
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  Speaker 2: numbers on it. Don't call the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, got it, got it, got it. Thanks for the tip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of Vegas, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived there for a while. I loved it,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm also degenerate. I have a gambling problem.
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  Speaker 1: Dana White type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Huh no, he's got a real problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some of those videos with the note
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  Speaker 1: boys and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So you ended up we should go to Vegas
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  Speaker 2: and that's where you recorded Paralyzed, Yes, sir. Nice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then we just started, you know, posting some uh just
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  Speaker 1: videosn't me singing it, and they went viral.
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  Speaker 2: How I want to know, because you put, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: like how many different pieces of content did you shoot
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  Speaker 2: to push that push that one song before it went viral?
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  Speaker 2: Because I wanted people to understand, like, sometimes people will
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  Speaker 2: post one thing and if it doesn't go crazy. They
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  Speaker 2: get discouraged and then they don't put anything else up
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  Speaker 2: and then they stop pushing their music.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think we had we had filmed
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  Speaker 1: maybe about six or seven, and it was probably like
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  Speaker 1: the sixth or fifth or six that went viral. But
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  Speaker 1: that's after me posting hundreds of times on my TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just people give up too soon on
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  Speaker 2: their records.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely. Yeah, so yeah, fine with viral. The big push
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  Speaker 1: was when DJ Academics he had reposted it, and that
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  Speaker 1: that kind of took it off a bit. That that
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty cool moment. I started getting hit up
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  Speaker 1: by you know, some of my favorite artists and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Who hit you up where you were like, what the heck?
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  Speaker 1: The first big one was that was crazy with Swaye.
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  Speaker 2: That was cool.
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  Speaker 1: I remember waking up at like six am. I think
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  Speaker 1: I was. I don't remember what I was doing about it.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to be right in some country swally feels
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  Speaker 2: like they kind of looking at that country genre like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think I could do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I've heard he's an incredible writer, so oh he
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. I think he could do. So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an amazing writer's a beast. He's also somehow
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  Speaker 2: become very underrated over the last like four or five years. Definitely,
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  Speaker 2: who else besides Swale A great guy.
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  Speaker 1: Loved that kid a little dirt, So you loved all
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff while also loving George Straight. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: so crazy because I just did this podcast and I
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  Speaker 1: flew out to Portland to do this podcast with this guy,
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  Speaker 1: nam Phil Becker, who's the head of a radio company
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  Speaker 1: called Alpha Media.
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  Speaker 2: They own one hundreds of radio stations, and we were
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  Speaker 2: talking to he wanted me to come out there and
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  Speaker 2: do a podcast. The theme of it was this Country
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  Speaker 2: the New hip Hop, And I didn't necessarily say it was,
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  Speaker 2: but I did say that there's so many correlations between
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  Speaker 2: the two worlds, right, Like if you think about like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop, like like I like on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 2: we got low riders, but like the country, they got
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  Speaker 2: their trucks. You know what I'm saying, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: music about women, a lot of music about partying. And
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  Speaker 2: now with the Internet, I feel like, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: I was growing up, like you, we either in hip
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  Speaker 2: hop or you were into like it was really like
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  Speaker 2: you really when I was a kid, I was never
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  Speaker 2: in the country. I barely got into the country more
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  Speaker 2: recently because of Jelly Ropes. I've been friends with Jelly
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  Speaker 2: for like twelve years. Yeah, and so I would put
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  Speaker 2: his stuff on and then other shit would start playing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this country shit ain't too bad. But
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  Speaker 2: I was saying, like the genre barriers are gone now
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  Speaker 2: because like you might open your phone and like, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, academics posted your shit, which is country, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, if somebody's into dark, they could
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  Speaker 2: also be into Morgan Wallen. I mean, look, they have
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  Speaker 2: two songs.
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  Speaker 1: Again, great songs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like I just feel like the whole,
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  Speaker 2: like the world seemed to be blending together. The fan
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  Speaker 2: bases are. I mean, obviously there's still people who aren't
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  Speaker 2: going to listen country, who aren't going to listen to
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  Speaker 2: hip hop on each side, but it does feel like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, more than ever, there's just people just are
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  Speaker 2: music fans. Again. It's like, yo, if it's country, it's country.
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  Speaker 2: If it's hip hop, it's hip hop, and people are
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  Speaker 2: doing songs together. You see people jumping genres now post Malones.
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  Speaker 2: Dude just did his ship. Yeah, I mean Jelly. I
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  Speaker 2: knew Jelly when he was like an underground rapper, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I DJ when Jelly, When me and Jelly first link,
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  Speaker 2: he was doing like one hundred people at a fucking
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  Speaker 2: show Saint Petersburg, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And he decided his new tour is stadiums.
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  Speaker 2: And no it starts I think it starts tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's It's tour starts tonight. So yeah, it's just crazy
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  Speaker 2: to see. Like, just like you know, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, good music, s music, and the other
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  Speaker 2: dope thing I think about some of the newer country
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  Speaker 2: that I've gotten into is it's like pain driven, Like
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  Speaker 2: I love like Tyler Childers, Oh my goodness, yeah, oh my.
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  Speaker 1: God, he's good.
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  Speaker 2: He's amazing and I just got you know who put
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  Speaker 2: me on him. Was that Mexicano Tal. Yeah, Mexicano t
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  Speaker 2: was like, yo, listening to Tyler children He has a
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  Speaker 2: song called White House Road, which is fire. It's about
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  Speaker 2: him getting as high as the grocery bill and doing cocaine.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. But like this ship is very I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is a dope ship.
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  Speaker 1: Great songwriting, that's what I love about country, the songwriting,
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  Speaker 1: storytelling for sure, it's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's super dope. So for you, like, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool that you were able to bring in
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  Speaker 2: a chopper or not chopper rather NB a young boy.
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  Speaker 2: How did you get NBA boys attention?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: How did because I wouldn't saw him in Utah. That yeah,
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  Speaker 2: super great guy but very like you know, he's literally
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  Speaker 2: before he went into jail, he was. He's at the house,
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  Speaker 2: he's recording, and he's he can't leave. So how did
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  Speaker 2: you get that done?
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  Speaker 1: Just their lawyers? Yeah, yeah, my lord knows him well,
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  Speaker 1: so so did you guys chop it up at all?
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  Speaker 1: I've never talked to him. Wow. Yeah, I'd love to.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to him, but obviously you got to write him
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  Speaker 2: now man. Yeah, he probably would appreciate the letter probably, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: did you uh listen to that? A lot of young boy.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say a ton, but a definitely good amount.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like that's your your generation.
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  Speaker 1: Stupid. Yeah, especially.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody who's like seventeen or eighteen, like NBA young boys
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  Speaker 2: there Tupac. It's kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And then in Florida, especially where I'm from, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people listen to him when I was like in
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  Speaker 1: middle school, high school.
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  Speaker 2: Kodak Oh, Kodaks I love in Florida Kodaks to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's like him and like the New Goats Roadway.
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  Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I lived in Florida when Kodak Black
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  Speaker 2: first came out and I never seen no shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Kodak Black had Florida in a chokehold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah definitely, yeah, yeah yeah, as he said, Rod Wave
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  Speaker 1: dudes in my hometown, they go crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Like if rod Wave did a country collab, it would
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  Speaker 2: be so good because he's already doing like he first
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: of all, he loves like a Dell. He loves so
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  Speaker 2: many different like genres of music. But if I heard
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  Speaker 2: like rod Waved like a collab with like Zach Bryant
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  Speaker 2: or something, that shit would go crazy. Yeah, because he's
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  Speaker 2: doing that like he's singing.
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  Speaker 1: He's an actual singer. So yeah, it could work. It
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  Speaker 1: would be pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: So what's it been like for you? Like going viral
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  Speaker 2: so quick? Is it hard to adjust? And okay, now
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  Speaker 2: we're viral. Now everybody's looking at you. Now you got
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  Speaker 2: to make records because that your your your team is
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: just saying that you that happened unexpectedly maybe, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: obviously the goals to blow up, right, Yeah, but you're
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  Speaker 2: you don't expect it to happen to what happens? Now,
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  Speaker 2: you got to make some more music.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go to work. I've been fortunate so
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  Speaker 1: the people that I've been working with. I've been working
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of the guys that like write for
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  Speaker 1: uh Luke Holmes and and Morgan Walling, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys that big Loud, which is uh yeah, they're right
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  Speaker 1: for Morgan. So I've been working with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those guys and they're they're incredible. They've been helping me
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  Speaker 1: figure out what kind of what way I want to go,
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  Speaker 1: and and and just learn about songwriting because then i've
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: been working in Nashville, everything is about the song. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, everything's about the song. So they've been helping me.
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  Speaker 1: I've been really fortunate, and I've been I've been picking
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  Speaker 1: up pretty good. You know, I write or co write
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  Speaker 1: all my records.
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  Speaker 2: What's it like going to Nashville. It's very like I
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  Speaker 2: always tell people, It's like, you know, we always in
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  Speaker 2: the hip hop world, we think in New York, Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: and La Right, But Nashville is like the only place
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  Speaker 2: that matters in the country world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nashville and Austin, Texas. That's about it.
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  Speaker 2: Austin's come. I didn't know Austin was on the com up.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just so crazy because Nashville's like this. It's
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  Speaker 2: like it's literally the entire music industry the country is there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all on music rowe pretty much. Yeah, it's cool,
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  Speaker 1: but honestly is cool. I like the way that they
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  Speaker 1: work in Nashville. Like you go to the studio at
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  Speaker 1: like eleven, you're done by five, and everybody goes home
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  Speaker 1: or goes to the bar or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Nah hip hop, man, it ain't like that.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've been in studio for like fourteen hours. Oh
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  Speaker 2: we wow, waiting for a feature. Remember when we were
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: trying to get that Tory Lanes where we were hanging
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  Speaker 2: out Tory Lanez in the studio all fucking day, just
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  Speaker 2: waiting for the drop of verse for my artists.
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  Speaker 1: Was he was he there or was he just like
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  Speaker 1: not writing.
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  Speaker 2: On and off? It was. It's like, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop sessions, they can either be very productive or
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  Speaker 2: they could be very like social. Okay, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: drugs we need people coming in and now maybe a
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  Speaker 2: jewelry guy pulls up, open the suitcase with a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of like, yeah, it happens. By the way, if that
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  Speaker 2: ever happens to you, if the jeweler ever comes to
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  Speaker 2: your studio with a suitcase, he's fucking you over where
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  Speaker 2: he All those jewelers that come to studios, they're all
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  Speaker 2: fucking scam artists. Not that the jewelry's fake, but they're
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  Speaker 2: over Yeah, charging everybody d do not buy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm heppy. I'm on this show man getting good tips.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see strike me as the jewelry guy.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I love jewelry. Oh I didn't get like that one day. Yeah,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: just a little Yeah, it's just from like the Golden Shop.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: This ain't none serious.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but one day.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love jewelry.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: So you'd get like a chain of the big penditt.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe not a big penditt. I like like tennis
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: chains and cubans. I'm not really a big pendit guy.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: But I love watches.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean watch It is like you can
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: have a really expensive watch, but it looked like modest. Yeah,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: you don't want to get the bus down, never to
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: rob me. You know, yeah, you rob me.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: You know you're getting messed uff on those diamonds too.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, what do your parents think
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: about everything that's happening now.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: That I'm kind of picking up Steve there obviously super happy.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I mean when I first started, it was it was
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: definitely scary.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Were they like a little you know, like like suspect
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: on you doing music at first? Yeah? Yeah?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: And then you know, when I signed to my production company,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: that was kind of a crazy situation. I mean I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: had never been on a flight before, and then I
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: flew to Vegas. They're like, so you never know what
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: he's gonna you know who this person is.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Even go to Sin City, they're gonna, you know, hey,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: man in the South, they'll be hearing some crazy shit
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: about the music in distry. Oh yeah, they're gonna sacrifice
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: you in a room full of just crazy ship. Let
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: me be careful.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So they were definitely nervous, But everything's pretty good.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm always talking to my mom and my grandma,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you know, letting them know what's going on. I live
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: with my mom and grandma right now in West Palm Beach. Uh,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: So that's cool.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Have you been to uh Mar al Lago. Isn't that
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: in West Palm Beach.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in Palm Beach.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so not West Palm I mean it's it's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: like they call that like.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: The Florida White House pretty much. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Right now, Palm Beach is pretty much on lockdown because
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: jumps in town.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: So when Trump comes to town, there's the whole city
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like it's.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: On lockdown, like that area of Palm Beach.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Have you seen his motorcade before?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Like no, I've never I've seen it. I've seen his
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: plane at the airport, but that's it.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy, Like, uh I heard Palm
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Beaches first of all, very hell of people retired there.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a retirement town. Yeah, lot of you
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: got by. Yeah, if you got big money with any.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Amount of super wealth, there's also super poverty. I'm sure
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: outskirts probably Yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, once you over the bridge, because it's it's like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: what's Palm Beach and you go over a bridge and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: it's Palm Beach, Pump Beaches, the island. So they kind
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of if you ain't got that, kind of kick you off.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: What what your parents wanted you to do if you
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: weren't doing music where they're trying to push you into
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a certain field.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: U not not really just wanted me to kind of
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: get a job or what.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Would you have done or what did you want to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: do if you didn't work out what.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do? Shoot, I don't really know. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to be actually, when I was younger, I wanted
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to be a YouTuber of course. Yeah everybody nobody wants
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to do hard labor, you know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're screwed if we go to war.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everybody wants to be a streamers.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I wanted to be a YouTuber.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, but there is something to be said about call
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of duty. There's some hand eye coordination there that you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: might help them. I don't know, maybe, but in China
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they ain't got no fucking streamers and YouTubers. They they
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: got that, They're right. Yeah, what YouTube channels did you
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: like growing up?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: My favorite was Casey knistat case Yeah, Casey Knice, that
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was good, Casey Nice. That was like the best videoographer
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: on YouTube.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Apparently in New York. What was he doing?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: He was just fumbing this voggin his life.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Log life so you like the nel boys.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I heard you say, yeah, boys, I love Nick never
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: seeing those dudes.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: They're cool. The O. G. Nelk stuff was the best.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what one of my older brothers, he would
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: watch that stuff like when that it was like Jesse, Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And they were pranking people. And then when they started
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: to make real money, that prank's got super elaborate, yah
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and crazy, like they did this. Do you ever see
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the prank where they it was like the fake bigfoot prank. Dude,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: they did this fool They went to like Oregon or
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Washington State where like oh Okay, and they like found
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: like this, they like hung out with this big foot guy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: It was like a big foot, Like this guy spent
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: his whole life hunting big foot. Yeah, And so they
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: pranked this dude and they put like a bigfoot in
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the forest while they were rhythim and this dude started
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: freaking out because he was like he finally found bigfoot.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But it was a dude in the suit.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's tough man.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Honestly, it was funny because once they found bigfoot,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: then the NLK boys had like the fake FBI and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: CIA pulled up with like a helicopter and kidnap everybody
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: because they don't want anybody. It is I don't know
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: about it was one of the best pranks of all.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Shut that out. Yeah, the Milk Boys are solid, man shure,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they're nice guys too. Manute where shouts to Steve will
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: do it. We gotta get back on YouTube. They took
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: him off, man, they banned him or yeah, yo, Uh
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: so are you are you just doing singles? You're working
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: on an album? What do you do?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You just it'll be a EP first. Uh so that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be coming out next month on the twenty seventh.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: September twenty seventh, The Nice How many songs? Seven oh seven?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: That's any other features? No, not for this just I mean, look,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: once you get into a young boy, you're good. Uh
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you know, we still want to go for anybody in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the country world embrace you and uh you know, kind
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: of big homie you yet.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. One in particular's Shaboozi.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Great cool. I mean he's a grown man, great guy. Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I met him like before he was famous. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: met him about a year ago.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: He was kind of famous year ago. I worked with
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Empire for years, so I've been very I've been very
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: hypnoshaboo but not but for sure just before Beyonce, Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, way before. So, yeah, we hung out a bit,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: chopped it a bit. They've been what someone that's followed
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: me the cool is your boy Jelly Roll? He followed
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: me a minute ago.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I was cool.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I've never been a talk to him though, but you.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Guys don't hang out one day. Yeah, he's the best.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Everybody I've heard talk about him like they have
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: nothing but good things to say about him. Yeah, they've
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: been some, you know, smaller artists like Chase Matthews. Uh,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we hung out a bit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: There's this one dude, what's his name? He's got a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: song called We Ride, We Ride?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know who that is?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I don't remember his name right now?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Damn I forget his name. I m him. He got
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: like sixty yes, yeah that fool. Yeah, I m him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I like this song. It's like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he followed me back. I was like, yeah, he only
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: had sixty thousand followers. I'm like, this song's fucking fire.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the song's big, going like Spotify. So that's crazy
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you only have sixty thousand. I got sixty thousand country
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: is booming.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Man, Uh, would you would you ever do anything outside
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: of the country, like sonically, Like, would you ever do
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: like anything else? Or you're kind of like holding in
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: on the on.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: The it's been like the most right now, the most
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: pop or urban thing I have. It's a song with
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: young Boy. Yeah, then I got somebody.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Would you do some gospel ship?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I would probably in like within it, probably a little later,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: once I really established like myself in the genre, probably
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: like a year or two, I'd probably do some gospel stuff.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like gospel music we need better people making it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: H hmm.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Some of the gospel music I'll be hearing. It's like
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: if somebody can make a bunch of Kanye Jesus Walks,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that'd be great.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, such a great record.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: And it's technically a Christian raper, so yeah, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I like, like we should all try to like not
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: we because I'm atheist, respectfully, but if I was like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: a Christian rapper, I'd be like, how do we do
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus Walks? But like, you know, we don't want to, Like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I feel like the Christian rap can
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: be a little preachy. Have you heard of Miles Minnick
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I have for the name. He's a Christian rapper. He's dope.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: He's actually dope. I interviewed him. He's actually really cool.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Who else who's the craze fire to the og? Yeah
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and mineo, Mineo. He's dope too.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I listened to when I was like fourth grade.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Jesus. Oh man, I'm old or you're young or both?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it can be both.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: So September twenty seventh, what's the name of your EP?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Hurts worse?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Oh? I like that hurts worse man any too?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Stuff? And he shows uh not right now, we're looking
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to see what's going on. You know. Hopefully that's the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: song picks up.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna be doing some showcases like popping
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: up with your guitar and yeah, that's what's up man,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: We'll look. I appreciate you pulling up. Go support this
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: kid on the twenty seventh pre orders I'm sure dropping
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: soon for the EP. Yeah, go support Mattador their Hopefully
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you get to meet NBA Young Boy, even if it's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: on the phone. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I feel
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: like there's NBA Young Boy features popping up, but he
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: don't even know about he's like, but shout out to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: young boy man. Shout out to you. I appreciate you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Uh and yeah, keep keep keep fighting. Good fight man.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: You're putting out dope music. Brother, I appreciate that boom.