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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Signal 99, Frogman, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five O five a fifty five k r C Detalk Nation.
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Speaker 1: Happy fridayses Kay, there's a woo who Thank you Joe
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Speaker 1: Strecker for confirming that it is Friday. Brian Thomas right here,
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Speaker 1: glad to be Hope you can check out fifty five
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Speaker 1: kr S dot com. Great place to go and you
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Speaker 1: can't listen live. Yesterday of course we had huh, let
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Speaker 1: me see you here? Who we talked to you yesterday,
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe. Of course we had Adam Kaylro on citizen journalism.
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Speaker 1: He's doing to power you summer next week. On that subject.
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Speaker 1: Last night, John Kurzy with Jesse Owens, fascinating conversation. As
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Speaker 1: short as it was with John, I learned a lot.
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about Jesse Owens for a short
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Speaker 1: period of time in that yesterday. So hope you got
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Speaker 1: to check that power are you seminar out Congressman Warren
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Speaker 1: Davidson as well yesterday that's a fifty five carocy dot
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Speaker 1: com coming up in the forty fifty five Caracy Morning
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Speaker 1: Show Friday. What does that mean? Right? Tech Friday with
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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter are expert from intrust it very important segment
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Speaker 1: and today we're going to learn about how Wi Fi
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Speaker 1: signals can map your body through walls. Great, and do
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Speaker 1: you trust AI bought diagnosing your health problems? You know
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Speaker 1: my initial reaction to this, Yeah, do you trust the
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Speaker 1: doctor to know everything there is to know and to
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Speaker 1: be able to identify with specificity and clarity the way I,
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Speaker 1: for example, a computer might do when reviewing a CT
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Speaker 1: scan or something like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We're going to dive into that with Dave. Finally, Oh,
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Speaker 1: this is interesting. A watchdog group is claiming video games
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Speaker 1: video game manufacturers rather deliberately or degrading the consoles that
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Speaker 1: you bought after you bought them through software upgrades. According
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Speaker 1: to this watchdog report, manufacturers can alter those devices remotely
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Speaker 1: after you buy them through software updates. One of the
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Speaker 1: things that was quoted here companies can degrade the functionality
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Speaker 1: of your car or effectively destroy your connected washing machine
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Speaker 1: with a software update. So pivot over to the video
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Speaker 1: game control systems. Apparently the same thing's going on. So
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Speaker 1: that's nefarious, but I guess it also is a confirmation
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Speaker 1: of a point Dave Hatter makes every single Friday, practically
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Speaker 1: every Friday, those Internet of things devices are not always
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Speaker 1: what they're cracked up to be. Signal ninety nine, I
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Speaker 1: hope you know who Signal ninety nine is the woman
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Speaker 1: on the inside, at least in so far as well. Shenanigans.
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Speaker 1: I like to refer to the collective actions of most
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Speaker 1: most everybody in city government related to some form of shenanigans.
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Speaker 1: And that's not a good comp that's not a compliment
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Speaker 1: today federal hearing regarding fire Chief Washington. Yeah, that's still
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Speaker 1: a living around in the background. Plus, is there a
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Speaker 1: rift between the CPD and the feds. Apparently we had
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Speaker 1: a wonderful working relationship with the federal government, so much
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Speaker 1: so that we had the excuse me, the national gold
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Speaker 1: standard nationally with regard to the Criminal Gun Intelligence Center.
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Speaker 1: So we worked with the federal government, we shared data,
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Speaker 1: and Signal ninety nine is going to going through all this.
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Speaker 1: We were an award winning representation of what everybody needs
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Speaker 1: to do in America. And what happened to the current administration.
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Speaker 1: You had the elimination or removal of Plea Chief Fiji
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Speaker 1: and apparently everyone in the know and responsible for creating
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Speaker 1: the Criminal Gun Intelligence Center award winning as it was
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Speaker 1: all the control and the key people have been removed
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Speaker 1: within the last five months. Signal nine nine describes it
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Speaker 1: as a drastic and targeted shift and how the shift
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Speaker 1: the system operates not incidental, deliberate, getting with command staff
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Speaker 1: leadership decisions, removing the experienced, high performing personnel from the
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Speaker 1: CGIC for no legitimate operational reason. Why would they do that? Well,
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Speaker 1: that's why we get Signal ninety nine. I'm also very
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Speaker 1: interested in finding out what she knows and has learned
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Speaker 1: about Fire Chief Washington get ready to write a check
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Speaker 1: my perspective. Fast forward to eight h five sign ninety
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Speaker 1: Is she gonna be in studio? Joe? No, okay? On
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Speaker 1: the phone, That's okay. Would you want to get up
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Speaker 1: and drive on in here anyhow on a Friday morning? Anyhow?
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Speaker 1: Fast forward to eight oh five with Don Man the
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Speaker 1: Navy Seal Playbook. He's an endurance athlete, former member of
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Speaker 1: Navy Seal Team six, impressive background, and the book breaks
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Speaker 1: down how powerful principles that make the Navy Seals leaders
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Speaker 1: under leaders under extreme pressure and lets you know how
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Speaker 1: you can apply these principles to your own life. You know,
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Speaker 1: build elite level discipline, strength and mental toughness lead and
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Speaker 1: collaborate like a seal and break through barriers, embrace discomfort,
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Speaker 1: overcome self doubt, and push past what you think is possible.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a motivational speaker to me, and of course,
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Speaker 1: applying the principles of being a Navy seal amazing challenge.
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Speaker 1: That is, I think it gonna be a fun conversation
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Speaker 1: with Donna in fast forward to eighth thirty with Jack
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Speaker 1: wins Or, editor in chief the Isle Press Network. We
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Speaker 1: have to remember why what Amy acting did to the
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Speaker 1: citizens of Ohio, of course, COVID nineteen Amy Lockdown Act.
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Speaker 1: And that's an important thing to keep in mind as
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Speaker 1: we move fast forward in November House Bill three forty seven,
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Speaker 1: what is it finally Columbus trying to enact a side
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Speaker 1: hustle tax jas gonna explain that to all of us,
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Speaker 1: me included. Always love having it on the program five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk
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Speaker 1: pound five fifty on eight and t phones. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: staring at like nine thousand headline the top of his
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Speaker 1: stack worthy stories, but let me just say, is the
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Speaker 1: world coming to an end? I'm referring to reports that
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Speaker 1: Chuck Norris has been hospitalized. Joe, did you see that? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Courted TMZ sources say emergency medical emergency occurred in the
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Speaker 1: island of Kawhi, where Chuck Norris is reportedly reported to
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Speaker 1: have been taken to the hospital. The nature of the
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Speaker 1: emergency unknown. They claim he's in good spirits spirits. So
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Speaker 1: Chuck Norris hospitalized?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: And in the city. Oh wait, butit got Jeff on
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Speaker 1: the phone. Let's take that beere. I dive on over
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Speaker 1: to the city of Cincinnati. Apparently has found a lot
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Speaker 1: of new money. It was a five to four vote. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they approved eight million dollars for a new music venue.
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Speaker 1: And I got to get props to Jeff Kramitting for
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Speaker 1: asking all of the tough questions, questions that he got
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Speaker 1: no answers to during the vote the other day. Let's
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Speaker 1: see what jeffs got, Jeff, thanks for calling this morning.
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you.
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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning Brian and the crew.
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Speaker 2: Happy first day of spring.
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Speaker 1: Ah good point. I got to write that down on
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Speaker 1: the weather forecast of the top because I forgot it
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Speaker 1: is the first day of spring. Great.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, sir, I.
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Speaker 5: Was gonna ask your opinion up and following this governor
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Speaker 5: race between doctor.
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Speaker 4: Amy and the bec.
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Speaker 5: Is Mike Twine moving on to a different position.
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Speaker 1: In his retirement after he leaves the governor's mansion.
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Speaker 6: Well will he be back?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, Jeff. I mean, if he chooses
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Speaker 1: to run for some other office, I would not back
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Speaker 1: him with any money, and I wouldn't put a lot
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Speaker 1: of stock in him being successful at whatever he might
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Speaker 1: choose to do. But I'd like to think, at his
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Speaker 1: age and after a successful political career, that he might
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Speaker 1: just want to enjoy retirement. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: I'm finally amen. Yeah, that makes you struggle, Jeff, when
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Speaker 1: you wonder why politicians continue as long as they do.
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Speaker 1: They're worth look at like Mitch McConnell finally going to
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Speaker 1: pack it up and go and go to go out
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Speaker 1: to pastor. He's been in the office for like what
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Speaker 1: nine thousand years? He's got more money than God. I
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Speaker 1: think as a consequence of his political his elected capacity
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Speaker 1: in office. Yeah, can parlay that into a lot of
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Speaker 1: money over the years. And I'm not saying you did
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Speaker 1: an incriminal. It's just as interesting how much money you
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Speaker 1: can make when your stated salary is like what one
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year or something
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Speaker 1: like that. Joe, you may be right. Check get up pulling.
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Speaker 1: You're the Internet Research group. We pull up the Magna
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Speaker 1: carta and see whose signatures are on it. You may
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Speaker 1: have something there. I know he was on the Declaration
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Speaker 1: of Independence, abstin It was a little astis at the
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Speaker 1: bottom one abstention. But yeah, but what is what drives them?
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Speaker 1: Can they not give up on this? I don't even
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Speaker 1: want to call it limelight? Yeah, a focus of attention
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Speaker 1: is on you. Is that the reward and why you're
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Speaker 1: doing this? At some point in time that you think, damn,
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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of money. I just gotta kick
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Speaker 1: back and relax. Let somebody else do it. We all
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Speaker 1: have an expiration day. Life will continue. It may not
9:01
Speaker 1: go in the direction you want, but you're gonna be dead.
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Speaker 1: How are you gonna know? It's like I have many
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Speaker 1: people that are reaching that senior age where they're they're
9:09
Speaker 1: looking at the landscape of this country and seeing not
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of positive for America's future, and God
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Speaker 1: bless America. Two hudred and fifty years this year. Can
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Speaker 1: we even survive? I mean, with thirty nine trillion dollars
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Speaker 1: and growing every single moment, devis, can we survive down
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Speaker 1: the road? Well, at a certain age, you think, TikTok, TikTok,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead before it collapses. And if that's
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Speaker 1: a weight off of your psychological shoulders, then great, be
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Speaker 1: free and step down from whatever you're doing and enjoy
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Speaker 1: your remaining years, play with the grandkids, great grandkids, if
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Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to get any. I'm waiting around for
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Speaker 1: one first grandchild. At some point that may happen. I'm
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Speaker 1: keeping my fingers crossed on I know my wife knows
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Speaker 1: what she's gonna be doing in retirement if we get one.
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Speaker 1: She'll be happy to retire and take care of the
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Speaker 1: grandchild if we ever get one, with a giant, beaming
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Speaker 1: smile on her face and happy to walk away from
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Speaker 1: her comfortable salary and her comfortable position at work. She
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Speaker 1: loves her job, you know what, she'd love more doing that.
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Speaker 1: So what is with these folks who refuse to step down?
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Speaker 1: You know? I mean, you could go on through a
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Speaker 1: whole long litany of politicians. Nancy Pelosi also wealthier than God,
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Speaker 1: why is she still around? Because they can't handle life
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Speaker 1: without the spotlight? Is that what this comes down to,
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Speaker 1: is that not a recomplete revelation out loud labeling definitionally
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Speaker 1: DSM five diagnosis of malignant narcissist. I would argue, I'm
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Speaker 1: not a psychiatrist or psychologist, and I don't play one
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Speaker 1: on radio, but I can read the diagnostics and statistic
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Speaker 1: manual and read what a definition of narcissism is, and
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Speaker 1: I think that's probably a great indicator five sixteen. Right now,
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Speaker 1: if you have KS station five three seven, four nine
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Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred eight two three talk, Yeah, eight million
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Speaker 1: dollars for new music venue. Apparently city councils are washing cash.
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Speaker 1: We get that. And Governor Dathy Huckel saying the quiet
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Speaker 1: part out loud and an active desperation. Comical as hell
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Speaker 1: this one. We'll be right back, check.
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Speaker 3: In for updates. What's happening in the Middle East?
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Speaker 1: Almost summer fifty one degrees right now? If you have
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Speaker 1: ker City Talk station.
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Speaker 1: About twenty on a Friday, and a happy one to you,
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Speaker 1: and hello and good morning to my friend Steve who
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Speaker 1: is listening live in Germany. That's too cool, Steve. I
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Speaker 1: just I think that's the neatest thing I know. I
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Speaker 1: sound like an old man who isn't aware of modern technology.
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Speaker 1: What's the big deal. We have the internet? You can stream. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's what the iHeartMedia radio or the heart Media software
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Speaker 1: comes from. Go to fifty five cars Dot comment download
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Speaker 1: your app. So when you're traveling abroad, that may be
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Speaker 1: the farthest away. I don't know what it's Germany closer
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Speaker 1: than Hawaii. I guess it is. Joe, Yeah, we had
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Speaker 1: that's right, we had a guy in Nairobi. Chime in.
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Speaker 1: I find that just the coolest thing. Anyway, to all
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Speaker 1: those listening outside of the greater Cincinnati area, that's cool.
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Speaker 1: Chime in. Feel free to let me know where you are.
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Speaker 1: And as illustrated by regular callers like you know, Mississippi, James,
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, we get to hear from folks all
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Speaker 1: the time. And my friend Marne, who's usually comfortably in
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Speaker 1: South Florida listening to the fifty five KRSE Morning show. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: yesterday here here you go. Make some sense of this one,
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Speaker 1: can you? Yes, we do have a budget gap in
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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. It's widely reported about thirty five
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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. They approved yesterday the supports spending eight
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Speaker 1: million dollars on that music venue over that used to
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Speaker 1: be Sunlight Pool th River beIN in a vote five
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Speaker 1: to four, so it was a squeaker. Councilmember Anna Albi
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Speaker 1: sponsored the resolution, at least described as the main sponsor
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Speaker 1: according to wcpo's reporting, Thank you Vellerie LANs. She said
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Speaker 1: the city's contribution would cover five percent of the projects
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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million costs and got costs and
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Speaker 1: calling an investment in the city's future, claiming that the
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Speaker 1: venue is expected to generate one and a half million
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Speaker 1: dollars in admission taxes per year and we get a
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Speaker 1: slight or the city since they gets a slice of that. However,
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Speaker 1: sounding at least plausibly rational and concerned, the mayor have
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Speaker 1: to have par Ball questioned the figure, the five percent figure,
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Speaker 1: and asked Albi about exact the exact funding gap the
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Speaker 1: project is trying to fill. In other words, why is
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Speaker 1: this city being asked to contribute eight million dollars for
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Speaker 1: a project that was already fully funded? Courtly reporting council
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Speaker 1: member Anna Albi declined to give a specific number during
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Speaker 1: the meeting. She said the city's director of the Office
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Speaker 1: of Strategic Growth had already vetted the financials and that
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Speaker 1: it was quote not her place close quote I'll be deflecting. Okay,
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Speaker 1: where is the vetted financials? Does anybody have them? It
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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like they do. So somewhere behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: some person said, yeah, this is a great project, and
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Speaker 1: that's why you got to vote for it. Par of
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Speaker 1: all responded, I respectfully disagree. I do think it's your place.
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Speaker 1: It's counsel's job to vet these before making investments. In
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Speaker 1: the back of my mind, Todd Zenzer's name in bright neon.
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Speaker 1: Some council members apparently frustrated over the process. Considering the
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Speaker 1: budget shortfall. Scotti Johnson right now facing a thirty five
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Speaker 1: million dollar deficit eight million dollars is reckless and irresponsible. Amen, Scotti.
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Speaker 1: Now for his I mean on his side, you know, well,
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Speaker 1: everybody's got a list, right, everybody has something they want
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Speaker 1: to do with money. Apparently he wants the city to
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Speaker 1: prioritize housing and feeding people over leisure and luxury. So
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Speaker 1: I think the council should prioritize, you know, the so
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Speaker 1: many things, perhaps even over leisure and luxury, like let's
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Speaker 1: not build another solar array with the taxpayer money, because
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Speaker 1: that's just stupid conceptually.
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Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 1: Vice Mayor Jean Michelle lemon Kearney claims the council should
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Speaker 1: not prioritize the venue before discussing other pressing city needs. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's have a conversation about it. I got a list,
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Speaker 1: you got a list. We have a fineite amount of money,
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Speaker 1: we got a budget shortfall. Let's compare notes. She said,
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Speaker 1: we don't know what we have to forego. In other words,
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Speaker 1: give up the eight million dollars by putting this project
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Speaker 1: in front line, in this special place where we would
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Speaker 1: make this commitment before we've had these discussions. Mark Jefferies
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Speaker 1: said the lack of formal hearing and talked about the
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Speaker 1: lack of a formal hearing on the eight million dollars
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Speaker 1: in question, what of the projects also would be sacrificed.
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Speaker 1: I would like to know from the adminison what we
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Speaker 1: are not going to do, What roads we are not
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Speaker 1: going to pave, What fire truck are we not going
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Speaker 1: to buy?
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Speaker 3: See?
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Speaker 1: I like Jeffrey's list A little bit more than the
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Speaker 1: suggestions about solving the housing and food crisis with eight
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Speaker 1: million dollars, because I think we all can collectively agree
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Speaker 1: that could never happen.
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Speaker 2: Now, who can argue with that?
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe? Does that make that suggestion authentic? Frontier
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Speaker 1: pioneer Gibberius Joe Gramerting said what happened yesterday, allocating or
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Speaker 1: at least identifying eight million dollars of funds without knowing
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Speaker 1: where those funds will come from and how they will
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Speaker 1: impact the project was irresponsible. Amen, Jeff Grammerting, He said,
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Speaker 1: I first heard about this a few weeks ago ahead
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Speaker 1: of yesterday's vote, and normally we got much more time.
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Speaker 1: I have not seen a spreadsheet. See Todd Zenzert needs
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Speaker 1: to be there. I have not seen anything in writing
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Speaker 1: about the city's eight million dollar investment. He said. Listen,
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Speaker 1: you know what that means. Other neighborhood projects will be cut.
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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of questions, he said, concerns from
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Speaker 1: citizens after the vote yesterday. People wanted to know what
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Speaker 1: projects will be effective. All of this happened after two
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Speaker 1: budget hearings, so there was not time for citizens to
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Speaker 1: ask questions at those two budget hearings, have a budget hearing,
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Speaker 1: give people the opportunity to chime in on priorities, and
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Speaker 1: then after those are all said and done, that's when
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Speaker 1: you tack on the eight million dollar allocation for the
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Speaker 1: music venue. That's great, that's rich. At least there's suggestions
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Speaker 1: from the minority on council, considering it was a five
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Speaker 1: to four vote in favor of the allocation, that some
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Speaker 1: of them have a grasp on reality. Some grasp five
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Speaker 1: KRC the talk station, Kelly Rolling. It is five point
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Speaker 1: thirty and it is Friday, David the obvious, But to
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Speaker 1: join the reality of saying it out loud, because I
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Speaker 1: dearly love the Fridays. Have you got something great going
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Speaker 1: on this weekend? Five one, three, seven, nine to fifty
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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
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Speaker 1: pun five fifty on eight and T phones. All is
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Speaker 1: right with the world. There he is, Tom, Welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the show. My friend's always good to hear from you.
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Speaker 7: Yes, calling all the way from Northwest Indianapolis.
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Speaker 3: I'll take you.
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Speaker 7: Sure, I'm sure you. I'm sure you will. And in
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Speaker 7: all seriousness, the iHeartMedia app is is crucial to me
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Speaker 7: being able to listen to you.
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you use it. I just I
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Speaker 1: love being you know, because the the the quote unquote
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Speaker 1: ratings figures were always subject to the jaundice. I have skepticism,
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Speaker 1: giving the old school way in which they were accumulated.
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Speaker 1: So when you have the streaming numbers, you know it's
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Speaker 1: actually real. You know, those are people that are actually listening,
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Speaker 1: and I think it's just it's a wonderful mechanism. And
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Speaker 1: actually some days that might be the thing that gets
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Speaker 1: me out of bed, like, okay, yeah, there is somebody
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Speaker 1: out there listening, so I should show up to work.
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Speaker 1: There's at least one and it's gonna be time at
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Speaker 1: five point thirty.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I make sure the app is on so I can
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Speaker 7: hear you say.
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Speaker 3: Five oh fot, thank you very much.
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Speaker 7: That that's that's the that's the goal every morning, get
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Speaker 7: up in time to get that iPad turned on so
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Speaker 7: I can listen to anyway. Enough of that. What's up
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Speaker 7: with these uh, with these council people down in Cincinnati.
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Speaker 7: Are they pretending to be Republicans or conservatives or something?
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Speaker 1: What's No, they're upset with the eight million dollars because
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Speaker 1: apparently no one gave them any concrete figures. It did
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Speaker 1: show up after the public discussions on budgeting, magically appearing
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Speaker 1: after people had I didn't have an opportunity to talk
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Speaker 1: on it. And then you have to pivot over from
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Speaker 1: their oh my god, this is crazy to what they
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Speaker 1: would do with the eight million dollars that's going to
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Speaker 1: the music festival. Then you're like, okay, yeah, there's still progressives,
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Speaker 1: there're still leftists. It's just that their pet project like
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Speaker 1: solving homelessness and ending global warming or something, is a
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Speaker 1: more important use of the eight million dollars when they're
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Speaker 1: still dealing with a thirty thirty five million dollar budget shortfall.
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Speaker 1: It's all, it's it's just it's a clown car.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just I'm just thrown off by by the
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Speaker 7: way these people are arguing back and forth. It wasn't
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Speaker 7: it wasn't a nine to zero vote to spend a
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Speaker 7: easily eight million dollars. I mean, what is that anymore?
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Speaker 7: Eight eight million bucks? I mean to Democrats, eight million bucks.
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Speaker 7: Is it's walking around money?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 7: I mean the whooped you do? I mean, it's it's
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Speaker 7: not their money. They don't want to they care, you know,
20:38
Speaker 7: it's it's our money that you know, it's the taxpayer's
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Speaker 7: money that they're throwing around, you know, like it's loose change.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, it all sounds good, as you pointed out,
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Speaker 7: I'm not.
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Speaker 1: Wait, the other component of this is that that venue
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Speaker 1: was already funded along some to some extent. There was
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Speaker 1: never an ask from the city coffers to get that
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Speaker 1: thing built. That's I mean, the project's already underway. Where
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Speaker 1: did this eight million dollars demand come from?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 1: Why do they need it now? Or they didn't need
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Speaker 1: it before? I mean, this is the absence of information
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Speaker 1: swirls around all that. Wait a second, where did this
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Speaker 1: ask come from?
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Speaker 7: And we wonder why people like Nancy Pelosi and Mitch
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Speaker 7: McConnell and all those lifers, how they get so rich?
21:21
Speaker 7: We wonder why. Huh, let's scratch our head and try
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Speaker 7: to figure this out. So it's obvious whether whether they're
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Speaker 7: Republicans or Democrats or whatever, these people get in office
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Speaker 7: and people line their pockets so they can get their
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Speaker 7: little pet project through or whatever it is they want.
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Speaker 7: I mean, these people are in positions of power to
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Speaker 7: vote on things, and uh and and they they take
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Speaker 7: advantage of it by by letting people bribe them or
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Speaker 7: whatever you want to call it. But you know you're
21:50
Speaker 7: in If you're in there long enough, you're not really
21:52
Speaker 7: representing the people anymore. How can you possibly understand what
21:56
Speaker 7: it's like to be somebody like me and you and
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Speaker 7: Joe or whoever that lives everyday, normal life and gets
22:04
Speaker 7: up and goes to work. And yeah, I mean they
22:05
Speaker 7: get up a good of work, but it's not the
22:07
Speaker 7: same kind of thing, you know, it's a totally different
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Speaker 7: life that they're living. And it's I just don't think
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Speaker 7: they're able to represent us anymore. I agree with term limits.
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Speaker 7: I think it should happen. I'm glad it happens on
22:18
Speaker 7: some levels of government, but it clearly needs to happen
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Speaker 7: in more areas, and Congress is definitely one of them.
22:23
Speaker 7: And speaking of the power to vote, everybody out there listening,
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Speaker 7: y'all have the power to vote. You have the power
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Speaker 7: to determine who is representing you in any given office,
22:35
Speaker 7: and of course, my advice to you is don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 7: Have a great weekend, bro.
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Speaker 1: I do the same, Tom and Elroy. Tom's comments reminded
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Speaker 1: me of what's going on right now. I guess the
22:42
Speaker 1: jury is currently deliberating on whether or not two former
22:46
Speaker 1: First Energy executives are guilty of bribery. Oh yeah, I
22:51
Speaker 1: just pile on your comment about Republicans being sometimes equally
22:54
Speaker 1: guilty as Democrats and so far as accepting bribes at
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Speaker 1: least allegedly. Maybe the jury comment on that soon stack
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Speaker 1: is stupid coming up. I take your phone calls over that.
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Speaker 1: Either way you want to go, say okay with me.
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Speaker 1: It's five point thirty five right now. It is time
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Speaker 1: for me to mention my friends at Cullen Electric Station.
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Speaker 3: Can you play John the Fisherman?
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Speaker 1: It is Friday, It is five thirty nine. The answer
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Speaker 1: that's always yes around this time of week and has
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Speaker 1: always given me a call. If I went three, seven, four,
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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred eight eighty two to three, talk
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Speaker 1: found five fifty on EIGHTT and T phones, naked people,
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Speaker 1: someone who's never listened to about Casey Morning showing a Friday, Like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell is he talking about? Yeah, it's the
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Speaker 1: Friday Stack is stupid, which always involves naked people. Even
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Speaker 1: when you are in act, you're you're in an active desperation,
23:54
Speaker 1: which Joe Strucker can quite often find themselves on a
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Speaker 1: Friday looking for well, criminal activity involved naked people. I love,
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Speaker 1: I love the depth of the reporting of this story, Joe.
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Speaker 1: Let's start off with the shortest one phrasing, oh you
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Speaker 1: caught me by surprise. Here we go three sentences. Nudeman
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Speaker 1: who police say had a knife, was arrested Wednesday evening
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Speaker 1: in Palm Springs. Police responded about nine thirty in the
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Speaker 1: evening Wednesday to the South Sunriseway and East mess Keith Avenue.
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Speaker 1: According to the Palm Springs Police Department, the suspect was
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Speaker 1: arrested just after a ten pm According to police, that's.
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Speaker 6: It now, who can argue with that?
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Speaker 1: Hey, this one has a little more depth to it.
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Speaker 1: We got one man arrested in a public nudy incident.
24:49
Speaker 1: Boone County called me. A police department was dispatched a
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Speaker 1: Colony Road the shopping area. This after fourteen people were
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Speaker 1: ported a naked guy harassing victims. The suspect, identified as
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Speaker 1: thirty year old Michael Joseph Mueller. One witness reported officers
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Speaker 1: that they'd observed the naked guy flailing his arms and
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Speaker 1: yelling while walking into the area. Two juvenile victims also
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Speaker 1: told the police they were exiting the Crumble Cookies when
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Speaker 1: Mueller allegedly started yelling and ran at them with open arms,
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Speaker 1: court costing. The two ran back inside the store and
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Speaker 1: stayed there until employees forced him to leave. The crazy guy,
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Speaker 1: another witness has said, later Mueller allegedly stood naked on
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Speaker 1: the walk on Sports Bistro parking lot, right in front
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Speaker 1: of the restaurant windows, yelling about religion and God eventually
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Speaker 1: located by sea located by the police department, in order
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Speaker 1: to put his hands behind his back, to which he replied,
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Speaker 1: quote stop in the name of the Lord close quote.
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Speaker 1: Officers claimed he continued to ignore orders and made advance
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Speaker 1: toward the law enforcement officers, and then a taser was deployed,
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Speaker 1: finally taking it to custody without further incident. In charge
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Speaker 1: of first degree harassment, resisting in first degree sexual misconduct.
26:09
Speaker 1: That's it. No reference to any drugs, Joe, but I
26:12
Speaker 1: think you and I can pretty much make book that
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Speaker 1: something was going on in his head. He was booked
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Speaker 1: in the Boon County Jail on ready taking a guess
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Speaker 1: on the bond tree fitty, No, that's wrong. Fifty thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars bond. It would be three to fifty if it
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Speaker 1: was in front of Judge Silberstein here in Hamilton County,
26:28
Speaker 1: that'd be three dollars and fifty cents. Well, yeah, of
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Speaker 1: course you get a cookie, Joe. But in Hamilton County,
26:38
Speaker 1: in addition to own recognizance bond, regardless of how violent
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Speaker 1: your offense was, you get the cookie and a small
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Speaker 1: glass of juice.
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Speaker 5: A's this tradition.
26:52
Speaker 1: We go to Lakewood, New Jersey. Man's been charged with
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Speaker 1: lewdness and shopliftering after walking into a liquor store naked
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Speaker 1: and stealing beer. Court of Lakewood Police the sixty nine
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Speaker 1: year old man, whose name and hometown were not yet released.
27:06
Speaker 1: They said the man was found naked outside a Pine
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Speaker 1: Cone liquor store drinking a twenty five ounce Budweiser. What
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Speaker 1: people still drink Budweiser? Well, naked, crazy people do. Accused
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Speaker 1: of walking into the liquor store, grabbing the beer, and
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Speaker 1: walking out without paying for to corn And police. They
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Speaker 1: approached him. The man began yelling what police said were
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Speaker 1: in their word in the report, alarming statements. Arrested without incident,
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Speaker 1: taking to the police headquarters. Uh getting sent that that
27:37
Speaker 1: again not exactly in depth reporting on naked people this week,
27:43
Speaker 1: and the stack is stupid. Let us see you here. Oh,
27:47
Speaker 1: I may as well just say five point three seven
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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two three talk, considering
27:53
Speaker 1: I only have three naked stories left, none of them
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Speaker 1: are likethy, and I got to fill another segment with
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Speaker 1: naked people in the news well, including teachers having sex
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Speaker 1: with students. In this particular case, we'll learn about a
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Speaker 1: teacher U thirteen year old student. What the hell is
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Speaker 1: wrong with people? Again, it's a female teacher having sex
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Speaker 1: with an eighth grader thirteen multiple times. Station five point
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Speaker 1: fifty here think about kersev talks. Station has always looked
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Speaker 1: forward to six thirty with Dave had Ter from interest
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Speaker 1: Ie Tea doing that Tech Friday segment. Fascinating it always is,
28:32
Speaker 1: and of course informative, and Dave's there to keep you
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Speaker 1: out of trouble, which she normally does as long as
28:36
Speaker 1: he heat is Advice Signal ninety nine a full hour
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Speaker 1: she's gonna be on the phone talking about a federal
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Speaker 1: hearing regarding Fire Chief Washington. That Sager continues in the background,
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Speaker 1: and is there a riff between this insane police department
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Speaker 1: and the Feds? It sure sounds like it based upon
28:50
Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine's reporting of what's going on. You should
28:53
Speaker 1: check out her Facebook page and follow it. She's always
28:56
Speaker 1: on the cutting edge of the new revelations coming out,
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Speaker 1: and she's prizingly revealing of how disfunctional this City of
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati administration. Is Don Man with the book The Navy
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Speaker 1: Seal Playbook and Jack Windsor from the Iile Press Network.
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Speaker 1: Those two in the eight o'clock hour five one, three, seven, four,
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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to
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Speaker 1: three talk with Pound five fifty on AT and T
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Speaker 1: phones and I'm going to go back to the stack
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Speaker 1: is stupid. And of course naked guy we got to Kennishaw.
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Speaker 1: It looks like Marylyn William or Bradley William Hinton is
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Speaker 1: the guy. He's accused of showing up at a Quick
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Speaker 1: Trip gas station three times to steal alcohol. According to
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Speaker 1: the restroom from the Kenshaw Police are we're gonna find
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Speaker 1: out together. Perhaps he walked into the Quick Trip with
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Speaker 1: his pants around his ankles. Of course, of course without underwear.
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Speaker 1: That's a good look, Joe, isn't it, then walked back
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Speaker 1: to his vehicle the Quick Tip. A Quick Trip manager
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Speaker 1: called police and said the naked guy was inside the business.
29:56
Speaker 1: Police got there, they found Hinton completely naked. I guess
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Speaker 1: he'd move the pants around his ankles. He was there
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Speaker 1: chugging a sixteen point nine ounce beat box alcoholic beverage,
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Speaker 1: sitting in the driver's seat of his jeep chair. No idea,
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Speaker 1: what's going on? I don't even know what a beatbox is, Joe?
30:14
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking? That was either there's
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Speaker 1: boxes of wine you get at Krugger. It's like three
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Speaker 1: bottles and one off for the price of like one
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Speaker 1: cheap bottle. I don't know beatbox. It's not described as wine.
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Speaker 1: It's described as alcoholic beverage. Joe's hitting the internet. He's
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Speaker 1: gonna answer that question for us anyway. While chugging the beverage,
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Speaker 1: Hinton was spilling it all over himself corner of the warrant.
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Speaker 1: He put his vehicle in park, then put it in reverse.
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Speaker 1: And backed up, of course, into the officer's patrol vehicle,
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Speaker 1: causing it damage. Hinton would not open the door to
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Speaker 1: get out of his vehicle, and officers had to open
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Speaker 1: the driver's side door and pull him free from the vehicle.
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Speaker 1: He's been charged with public drunk driving. I'm sorry, public
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Speaker 1: drunk driving, open container d you why safe alcohol? I
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Speaker 1: don't even know what that is, obstruction, hindering law enforcement,
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Speaker 1: public indecency. Arrested March fifth, booked into the Cobb County
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Speaker 1: Adult Detention Center. Released on a seven thousand dollars bond
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Speaker 1: several days later. Here's another short one. There you go ahead,
31:25
Speaker 1: a pausive way for that one. Joe go to Roseberg, Oregon,
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Speaker 1: where police sighted a thirty six year old woman after
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Speaker 1: officers say they found her walking naked along a roadway
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Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning in the area West Harvard Avenue.
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Speaker 1: Got a report of a fully nude woman walking along
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Speaker 1: the road. At Ley said they located her, identified her,
31:44
Speaker 1: confirmed she was in fact fully nude, which should have
31:47
Speaker 1: been the shortest part of the process. Sighted on a
31:49
Speaker 1: charge of indecent exposure and released. And finally we go
31:54
Speaker 1: to the societal collapse that is revealed by yet another
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Speaker 1: actually somewhat attractive female adults teacher in Colorado having sex
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Speaker 1: with a thirteen year old Brenda Masa. She actually is
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Speaker 1: at large, remaining at large after police confirmed that she's
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Speaker 1: wanted on a sexual assault charge involving this thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old Colorado secretary accused of having sex with an eighth
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Speaker 1: grade student. She's on the run. Greenley Police Department public
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Speaker 1: information officer Kristin Dust speaking with the news so the
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Speaker 1: police have no updates on where she is. They were
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Speaker 1: called to Franklin Middle School February twelfth getting a report
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Speaker 1: about a sexual assault on a thirteen year old court
32:34
Speaker 1: of the police. During the investigation, it was determined the
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Speaker 1: amazing engage in continuous sexual abuse of the miner for
32:39
Speaker 1: several months. Currently wanted on felony charges. The school secretary,
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Speaker 1: who also served as coach on the school's cross country
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Speaker 1: team and club advisor, started the relationship with the team
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Speaker 1: after he found her Instagram account over Thanksgiving break. Para
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Speaker 1: llegedly began sending text messages and sexting photos of themselves
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Speaker 1: before the relationship escalated in January. Allegations laid out in
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Speaker 1: the Affidavid say, Masa and the teen met at a
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Speaker 1: Walmart parking lot perfect consume marijuana edibles and buzzballs Cocktails
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Speaker 1: buzzballs Joe and started to kiss and touch each other,
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Speaker 1: eventually moving to the back of the vehicle and had sex.
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Speaker 1: Tority say. The pair met up but a second time
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Speaker 1: a few weeks later to local park to share marijuana
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Speaker 1: and again have sex. Lludedly, The investigators found photos on
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Speaker 1: Mazes's phone showing the team drinking the booze and holding
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Speaker 1: marijuana blunts, along with another image of the two together. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's great. Appreciate the work that you did for detectives there.
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Speaker 1: Crazy Lady teen told investigators that they also had sex
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Speaker 1: a third time at the same park. Phone data revealed
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Speaker 1: Mesa and the teen had texted each other I Love
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Speaker 1: you about eighty one times between and of January and
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Speaker 1: the beginning of February, just over two weeks. Teen told
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Speaker 1: investigators Maza told him she got jealous when she saw
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Speaker 1: him talking with the girls his own age. She also
33:59
Speaker 1: allegedly told the that his manhood was bigger than her husband's.
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Speaker 1: What have we stumbled upon? The motivation? Joe team told
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Speaker 1: police later, although he knew that the banter, including comments
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Speaker 1: that she believes she'd known him in another life, was corny.
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Speaker 1: He went along with it. Anyway, you can see where
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Speaker 1: this is going. Five fifty six. We'll give her a
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Speaker 1: parenthetical award this morning. Since we're out of time in
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Speaker 1: the segment. You know what I'm talking about Don't Go Away,
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Speaker 1: plenty to talk about. I got New Hampshire Gary calling
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Speaker 1: into the phone. Gary, I'll be happy to take your
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Speaker 1: call when I get back from the break. And then
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Speaker 1: of course Tech Friday with Dave Patter at six thirty
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Speaker 1: Don't Go Away. He talks to day Jan Brian Thomas
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Speaker 1: wishing around a very happy Friday and invitation to stick
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Speaker 1: around all morning. Got Tech Friday with Dave Patter, Come
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Speaker 1: to the botto of the hour. Wi Fi signals apparently
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Speaker 1: able to map your body through walls. Creepy question, do
34:52
Speaker 1: you trust AI bots to diagnose your health problems? And
34:55
Speaker 1: finally here's one. There's a watchdog group out there that
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Speaker 1: revealed a study showing the game manufactur Sure's deliberately degrade consoles.
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Speaker 1: This is after you purchased them along with other items
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Speaker 1: through software upgrades. So if you've got an Internet of
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Speaker 1: Things device, and of course a game consoles connect the Internet,
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Speaker 1: they do software upgrades and then deprive you of full
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Speaker 1: functioning products. I guess in an effort to keep you
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Speaker 1: his improper termination my subjective boiled down perception of what
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Speaker 1: happened to him. And finally, is there a riff between
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Speaker 1: the Sincinni Police Department of the federal agents. We had
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Speaker 1: the inside at CPD has been removed from the program,
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Speaker 1: throwing us in a bit of alert here. So she'll
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Speaker 1: give us all the information as Signal ninety nine can
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Speaker 1: only do. That's coming to seven oh five. Fast forward
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Speaker 1: to eight o five with Don Man, Navy Seal. Jesus,
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Speaker 1: this guy's got an impressive record. He's written a book,
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Speaker 1: the Navy Seal Playbook, talking about the elements of being
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Speaker 1: a Navy seal and how you can apply that to
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Speaker 1: your life to deal with life's challenges. And then, of
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Speaker 1: course Jack Winsor it's Friday, we get Jack wins Or,
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Speaker 1: the editor in chief of the Isle Press Network and
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Speaker 1: host of the Windsor Report. Check them out on zoom.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about the what Amy acton did
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Speaker 1: the citizens of the state of Ohio? Yeah, during lockdown
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Speaker 1: Amy lockdown acting? What is House built three forty seven?
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Speaker 1: And finally Jack will be talking about Columbus trying to
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Speaker 1: enact what he calls a side hustle tax. You and
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Speaker 1: I will both find out together what that is. You
36:42
Speaker 1: may be ahead of the game on me on that,
36:43
Speaker 1: but that's where you have Jack Windsor. They also have
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Speaker 1: phones here. We're going to get to New Hampshire, Gary
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Speaker 1: right now five one three seven, four nine fifty five hundred,
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Speaker 1: on AT and T phones. Gary, Welcome back to the
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Speaker 1: show Man. Happy Friday.
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Speaker 6: Hey, Brian, glad glad you're feeling better. Prayers both for
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Speaker 6: you and Joe, for your father, for his father and
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Speaker 6: your cancer, and thank.
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Speaker 1: You for Joe's father. I truly appreciate that, and I'm
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Speaker 1: in your camp on praying for Joe's father. Thank you
37:11
Speaker 1: very much.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 6: I was just I just came back from Boston. I
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Speaker 6: was on the trip and I was coming back, and
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Speaker 6: I flew back and I'm kind of like a little
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Speaker 6: bit more aware of my surroundings with the war and everything.
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Speaker 6: And I come back from a trip and I go
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Speaker 6: down to the baggage carousel down here in Boston on Wednesday,
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Speaker 6: and they got the news lined up at the carousel.
37:37
Speaker 6: They got all the local news channels and that I
37:39
Speaker 6: couldn't help but to think of you. Apparently, there was
37:43
Speaker 6: a flight that came in next to mine and there
37:48
Speaker 6: was a cargo fire on the aircraft. It was a
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Speaker 6: Jet Blue that came out of JFK, And I talked
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Speaker 6: to some of the passengers there because they were like,
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Speaker 6: you know, they were very frank. They were like, it
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Speaker 6: was terrifying. Yeah, And apparently I don't know what caused
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Speaker 6: the fire, but everybody I'm talking to they're saying it
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Speaker 6: was probably a battery fire. And they said that the
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Speaker 6: aircraft had a really hard time landing. And I think,
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Speaker 6: you know, at least it was reported that it had
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Speaker 6: a hard time landing. It was just such a shock
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Speaker 6: to see that it is happening, and it's happening fairly often,
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Speaker 6: more often than you would like, even though they've got
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Speaker 6: ways of containing fires and cargo compartments. You know, if
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Speaker 6: somebody takes you know, if these batteries continue, somebody's going
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Speaker 6: to get hurt.
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Speaker 1: Oh, without question. It's just a matter of time, you know.
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Speaker 1: I just pivoting over to the defunding or the lack
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Speaker 1: of funding for the Department of Homeland Security. It's just
38:52
Speaker 1: a matter of time before we get another terrorist action.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's going to happen there. You know, there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be another battery fire, and I have feeling that's
38:59
Speaker 1: and I pray to God that it isn't tragic. But
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Speaker 1: you know, you get a lithium and I tell you
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Speaker 1: what I questioned, whether they really have adequate for fire
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Speaker 1: suppression giving how hard those lithium ion batteries are to
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Speaker 1: put out. I mean, you hear stories about Tesla's catching
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Speaker 1: on fire and fire departments coming in and dumping five
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Speaker 1: million gallons of water on it over a period of hours,
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Speaker 1: and they still have a tough time keeping them out.
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Speaker 1: That's great that's that's going on beneath your feet in
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Speaker 1: the cargo hold on an airplane. Uh, freak you out,
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Speaker 1: abs hell lutely geese.
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Speaker 6: One of the things that I've had somebody in the
39:33
Speaker 6: industry tell me that one of the things that they're
39:36
Speaker 6: really kind of afraid of because they're made cheaply, are
39:39
Speaker 6: vake pens. Oh, people throw their vake pens in their luggage.
39:43
Speaker 6: They forget about it. And what the what they don't
39:46
Speaker 6: realize is as aircraft goes up, pressurization increases. When the
39:51
Speaker 6: aircraft lands, it decreases. If there's any sort of water
39:55
Speaker 6: or metal contaminants in the mercury are in the lithium,
40:00
Speaker 6: that's what causes them to go boom, you know, and
40:05
Speaker 6: you know it's just it's just a matter of time.
40:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you just add that to the list of
40:10
Speaker 1: reasons that flying kind of bothers me. I'm usually not
40:13
Speaker 1: afraid of the concept of flying, and if people do
40:15
Speaker 1: it every single day and the chances of something happening
40:17
Speaker 1: are remote but giant. But to that statement, which you know,
40:23
Speaker 1: if I can try listen, Hey, you know what, the
40:25
Speaker 1: TSA's backed up three to four hours and a lot
40:28
Speaker 1: of airports, So add that to your calculations. Okay, I'm
40:31
Speaker 1: gonna save a couple hours by flying, but I'm gonna
40:34
Speaker 1: wait around three or four hours to get on the
40:36
Speaker 1: damn plane. And it's couple that with you know, flight
40:38
Speaker 1: delays and other problems you might run into, connecting flight problems. Hey,
40:42
Speaker 1: I'm gonna opt to drive. My distance to choose driving
40:45
Speaker 1: over flying has just increased.
40:48
Speaker 3: You know.
40:48
Speaker 1: It used to be like six hours. Yeah, I'm gonna
40:50
Speaker 1: go with eight, maybe ten. I'd rather be behind the
40:52
Speaker 1: wheel of an automobile anyway, because look, I can pull
40:55
Speaker 1: over anytime. I damn will want to take a break,
40:57
Speaker 1: maybe see a little something on the side. Anyhow. Plus, Gary,
41:01
Speaker 1: I about you have a great weekend.
41:02
Speaker 3: Brother.
41:03
Speaker 1: Is a great hearing from me, and thanks again for
41:04
Speaker 1: the for the kind words. This is crazy New York
41:11
Speaker 1: Governor Kathy Hokel last week talking to the Political New
41:14
Speaker 1: York Agendas Summit. I think she said the quiet part
41:16
Speaker 1: out loud, You don't inadvertently tell the truth. Kathy Hokeel
41:19
Speaker 1: revealing how desperate she is she is trying to get
41:22
Speaker 1: multi millionaire billionaire folks that it took off and left
41:25
Speaker 1: for Florida, because of the high, crazy tax and regulation
41:28
Speaker 1: reality of New York. To come move back, please, Dear God,
41:32
Speaker 1: move back. I philosophically don't have a problem with raising taxes, apparently,
41:40
Speaker 1: because that's why that you know, Mayor Mondami's pushing to
41:44
Speaker 1: increase the taxes in New York and he needs the
41:46
Speaker 1: governor's approval to do that. People have already fled New
41:49
Speaker 1: York into the current tax environment. She said, I have
41:51
Speaker 1: to look at the fact that we are in competition
41:54
Speaker 1: with other states who have less of a tax burden
41:57
Speaker 1: on their corporations and their individuals. Did you just get
42:00
Speaker 1: the memo the world's a different place? Going back to
42:07
Speaker 1: amy Lockdown Act, and what did we learn from COVID,
42:10
Speaker 1: We are learned a lot terrible things. Families suffered tragedies,
42:14
Speaker 1: people's people died without the benefit of being next to
42:17
Speaker 1: their loved ones, locked up the nursing home facilities. People
42:20
Speaker 1: were freaked out. Yeah, there was a lot of carnage
42:22
Speaker 1: out there, but the government's reaction to it, in our
42:24
Speaker 1: elected officials' reaction to it, that is hopefully burned firmly
42:28
Speaker 1: in your memory. We have the benefit of now we
42:30
Speaker 1: can use telehealth, so you don't have to go to
42:32
Speaker 1: the doctor's office anymore. A lot of people able to
42:34
Speaker 1: remotely work at home. My wife benefits from that. No
42:36
Speaker 1: longer a forty five commute to get to the office.
42:39
Speaker 1: She has an office in the basement, walks downstairs and
42:41
Speaker 1: does her business. And it worked out great. A lot
42:43
Speaker 1: of people experiencing that. Of course, that's impacted New York.
42:50
Speaker 1: We also were it COVID revealed. I think it is
42:52
Speaker 1: a great thing. One of the worst things that it
42:54
Speaker 1: revealed that were dependent almost exclusively on the Chinese Communist
42:57
Speaker 1: Party to make our pharmaceuticals problem revealed, and problem maybe
43:01
Speaker 1: being worked on right now. But it also revealed that, yes,
43:05
Speaker 1: Governor Hockle, we have the freedom of travel. Oh that's right,
43:08
Speaker 1: I don't have to be here anymore. Just the fact
43:13
Speaker 1: is I need people who are who are high net
43:17
Speaker 1: worth to support the generous social programs that we want
43:21
Speaker 1: to have in our state. Well, you may want it.
43:29
Speaker 1: What she did was praise quote some patriotic millionaires who
43:32
Speaker 1: stepped up and cut me checks. I don't think she
43:38
Speaker 1: necessarily meant cut them and then having them land in
43:41
Speaker 1: her personal pocket. Who knows, she said, But if they
43:46
Speaker 1: really want to help these patriotic millionaires who apparently have
43:49
Speaker 1: stayed in the heavily taxed and overly regulated state of
43:53
Speaker 1: New York. Maybe the first step, she said, should be
43:55
Speaker 1: to go down to Palm Beach and see what you
43:58
Speaker 1: can do to bring back home, especially because our tax
44:02
Speaker 1: base has been eroded. She said, remote work changed everything.
44:07
Speaker 1: And this is really where she knocks it out of
44:10
Speaker 1: the park from my perspective, revealing something so obvious but
44:16
Speaker 1: actually saying it. There were people who could only work
44:21
Speaker 1: in an office in Manhattan and work in New York State,
44:25
Speaker 1: and they were captives to our state. They were going
44:29
Speaker 1: to stay. But we saw that's no longer the case.
44:33
Speaker 1: Thank you COVID nineteen, freeing people from being held hostage
44:37
Speaker 1: in the state of New York. Damn it, the financial
44:39
Speaker 1: industries here. I can't go any place else. It's like
44:43
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley in San Francisco, right, Can you afford a
44:45
Speaker 1: house out there? Well, only if you're one of these
44:47
Speaker 1: tech millionaires. But that's where the center of attention is,
44:50
Speaker 1: That's where Silicon Valley is, that's where the tech industry
44:54
Speaker 1: well had its capital. In essence, you can't leave. Oh
44:57
Speaker 1: my god, long came COVID nineteen long came in a
44:59
Speaker 1: world that's connected with the internet. Look, you mean we
45:02
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with tech out in California and
45:05
Speaker 1: it's heavily regulated, overly taxation state. No, you don't. You
45:08
Speaker 1: can leave. Everybody there went to Texas. I think it's great.
45:15
Speaker 1: And you know what, Governor Hockel, I think the answer
45:18
Speaker 1: from them is going to be no. Let's see here
45:21
Speaker 1: no income tax and virtually no property tax, and my
45:23
Speaker 1: businesses and being onerously taxed and regulated. I like it here.
45:26
Speaker 1: It's sunny, it's beautiful. Oh wow, see here? Do I
45:31
Speaker 1: want to commit financial suicide or otherwise bring myself some
45:35
Speaker 1: personal harm by moving back to New York so I
45:37
Speaker 1: can support these grandiose plans for achieving like societal Nirvana.
45:44
Speaker 1: Let me just pause before I choose and reflect back
45:47
Speaker 1: on how successful all of these societally improving programs have
45:50
Speaker 1: been over the years. How successful are the homeless housing
45:53
Speaker 1: program has been? Okay, maybe not, How successful the New
45:57
Speaker 1: York School of Public School's been in delivering a great
45:59
Speaker 1: edge education for our young people? Okay, there's not that.
46:03
Speaker 1: You could get down the list if you want, but
46:05
Speaker 1: you get the idea. Where I'm coming from. Thank you,
46:06
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47:55
Speaker 1: somebody suggested maybe Thet's do a Rob Ryder musical broad
48:00
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48:04
Speaker 1: I gave you longer than ten minutes.
48:05
Speaker 3: Joe.
48:11
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a question going back to the eight million
48:13
Speaker 1: dollars that the city voted yesterday five to four vote
48:16
Speaker 1: to give to the new Riverbend project. I had forgotten
48:20
Speaker 1: speaking about this in the last part. They're talking about
48:22
Speaker 1: increasing the payroll tax. Go ahead and try to justify that.
48:26
Speaker 1: Do you think they've lost this sense of awareness to say, Council,
48:30
Speaker 1: the mayor, we need more money. We got a thirty
48:32
Speaker 1: five million dollar boards to shortfall. Oh by the way,
48:34
Speaker 1: here's eight million dollars to go to the Well, a
48:36
Speaker 1: music venue that never asked for the City of Cincinnati
48:39
Speaker 1: for a dime. Some are suggesting inflation has reared its
48:42
Speaker 1: ugly head, creating a budget hole for the Riverbend project. Regardless,
48:47
Speaker 1: I don't think it's effective marketing. We're going to raise
48:49
Speaker 1: the tax, going back to Governor Hockle's problem, and look
48:53
Speaker 1: what Chicago's doing. They're raising their hotel tourist tax to
48:57
Speaker 1: nineteen percent. Why because they want tourism marketing funds. If
49:02
Speaker 1: you take that money and charge every single human being
49:05
Speaker 1: who comes in and stays in the city is Chicago.
49:07
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be twenty percent basically on their room charge. Yeah,
49:10
Speaker 1: that could be a heap load of money. Then they'll
49:12
Speaker 1: invest that in marketing campaigns. Uh okay, Well, considering Governor
49:19
Speaker 1: Huckle's realization that every city is competing with every other city,
49:22
Speaker 1: and the same thing goes with states. Let's see if
49:25
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49:27
Speaker 1: are other options available to you, less expensive ones, although
49:32
Speaker 1: providing the same amenities, and the money is coming out
49:36
Speaker 1: of your folks pockets, I think you know, you might
49:41
Speaker 1: want to go someplace else. Let them compete along those lines.
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Speaker 1: to welcome back to the Morning show. Understanding, you're not
50:17
Speaker 1: feeling real good today, Dave.
50:19
Speaker 3: A little bit of a cold. I'm all right, I
50:20
Speaker 3: just sound a little crazy this morning.
50:22
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll wish you the best and then
50:24
Speaker 1: we'll find out that in the next segment whether you'll
50:26
Speaker 1: trust an AI bot to figure out what the hell's
50:28
Speaker 1: wrong with you. But before that, I was reminded, Dave
50:32
Speaker 1: on a on a comical level, and I asked Joe
50:33
Speaker 1: Strecker if he knew what the joke was about Ruru,
50:36
Speaker 1: And of course my dad had told him that joke,
50:38
Speaker 1: and that dad told me that joke too. Remember death
50:40
Speaker 1: by Ruru, also death by Unga Bunga. We have not Ruru,
50:44
Speaker 1: but review. So you can either acknowledge your understanding of
50:48
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50:51
Speaker 3: Dave Hatter, Yeah, that is funny. And also how there's
50:56
Speaker 3: a takeoff of that on if you ever watch Futurama.
50:59
Speaker 1: Death by there you go. Okay, we're all on the
51:02
Speaker 1: same page.
51:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is an interesting story. Headline Wi Fi
51:08
Speaker 3: signals reveal human activities through walls by mapping body key points.
51:14
Speaker 3: And this is the review you're talking about, is an
51:18
Speaker 3: open source AI system and basically just using ordinary Wi Fi.
51:22
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, your Wi Fi router is throwing out
51:26
Speaker 3: a wireless signal that allows the devices within range to
51:29
Speaker 3: connect to it. Your computer, your phone, your smart TV,
51:32
Speaker 3: whatever other devices you have that can pick up a
51:35
Speaker 3: Wi Fi signal. And I'm sure many of your listeners
51:39
Speaker 3: out there have fought in the past with well, the
51:41
Speaker 3: signals not strong enough in this room, or sometimes it
51:44
Speaker 3: drops off at this time of day or whatever. But
51:46
Speaker 3: my point is you're throwing out a radio frequency right
51:50
Speaker 3: typically in the three hundred and sixty degree arc or
51:54
Speaker 3: circle that all these devices are trying to connect to.
51:58
Speaker 3: And this is not new exactly. Researchers have shown in
52:02
Speaker 3: the past you could do this, but now with this
52:04
Speaker 3: new system, it basically shows you how as the radio
52:08
Speaker 3: signals are either bouncing off of things or absorbed by things,
52:11
Speaker 3: think the way radar works. Basically without any kind of
52:15
Speaker 3: cameras or anything, someone that has the right equipment and
52:19
Speaker 3: this in the right system can pick up that Wi
52:22
Speaker 3: Fi and see where people are in a room through
52:25
Speaker 3: the walls with no windows, no cameras or anything like that.
52:28
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty wild, really, it says in the article
52:33
Speaker 3: turning ordinary Wi Fi infrastructure into a through the wall
52:37
Speaker 3: human sensing platform, detecting body pos, vital signs, and movement
52:41
Speaker 3: patterns without a single camera, raising security and raising urgent
52:45
Speaker 3: security and surveillance concerns.
52:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say yeah, And.
52:50
Speaker 3: They say researchers and developers have long theorized that ambient
52:54
Speaker 3: radio signals could be weaponized for passive surveillance. And this review,
52:58
Speaker 3: built by developer room Cohen and available on GitHub, implements
53:02
Speaker 3: Wi Fi dense Pose, a sensing technique originally pioneered by
53:05
Speaker 3: carnegiem moll And University, is a practical, low cost edge
53:08
Speaker 3: system that reconstructs full body human poses through walls using
53:12
Speaker 3: only standard Wi Fi signals. Wow, so yeah, it's it
53:16
Speaker 3: just goes to show you again all of this technology
53:19
Speaker 3: can be used in ways that are often unintended and
53:23
Speaker 3: potentially negative.
53:25
Speaker 1: This sounds like something or American military would have developed
53:27
Speaker 1: in order to do like breaches of you know, rooms,
53:30
Speaker 1: whether so they know exactly where people are before they
53:32
Speaker 1: kick a door in.
53:33
Speaker 3: But well, and maybe they did have Brian And then
53:36
Speaker 3: if you just haven't heard about their version of it.
53:40
Speaker 3: You know. Again, this idea of using Wi Fi signals
53:43
Speaker 3: to be able to like map an area and so
53:45
Speaker 3: forth isn't new, but this, this reoview application, is fairly new.
53:50
Speaker 3: It goes on to say, when a human body moves
53:51
Speaker 3: within a wireless environment, it distorted signal paths across dozens
53:55
Speaker 3: of o FDM subcarriers. This is a signal process. This
53:59
Speaker 3: software is a signal processing pipeline. It captures these disturbances
54:03
Speaker 3: and extracts the amplitude and phase variation, feeds them through
54:06
Speaker 3: a modified process, and essentially will show you again where
54:12
Speaker 3: a person is, how their position and so forth, simply
54:16
Speaker 3: because their body is blot interfering with the signals.
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Speaker 1: Frightening. It doesn't attract me that the technology exists that
54:24
Speaker 1: can do that, but that the technology exists that they
54:28
Speaker 1: can do that is just in and of itself kind
54:30
Speaker 1: of frightening. So it's the death of privacy by review.
54:35
Speaker 3: Certainly one more step towards it. And it goes on
54:38
Speaker 3: to say, unlike cameras which are regulating under GDPR and CCPA,
54:42
Speaker 3: know privacy laws which again vary all around the world,
54:46
Speaker 3: and there isn't a single single privacy on the US.
54:50
Speaker 3: Unlike cameras, which are regulating GDPR and CCPA and physical
54:53
Speaker 3: installation laws, passive Wi Fi sensing is invisible and requires
54:57
Speaker 3: no physical access to the target environment. Legal analysis is noted.
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Speaker 3: Quote it's quite difficult to ask pedestrians for permission and
55:05
Speaker 3: advance unquote, and can send frameworks collap entirely when the
55:08
Speaker 3: sensing is passive.
55:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's face it, Even if there's a law
55:11
Speaker 1: on the book outright prohibiting it and subjecting you to
55:14
Speaker 1: criminal penalty if you do it, nefarious actors don't follow
55:17
Speaker 1: the law, Dave. So I don't think one of a
55:19
Speaker 1: for want of a regulation, this is going to go anywhere.
55:22
Speaker 1: All right, Well, keep that in mind. If you have
55:24
Speaker 1: Wi Fi, someone could hack in and use this as
55:26
Speaker 1: basically what it boils down to.
55:28
Speaker 3: Yes, that is what it boils down to.
55:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, get those Internet of Things devices to make
55:32
Speaker 1: it really easy for people to break into your Wi
55:33
Speaker 1: Fi system or on that dude, maybe AI can figure
55:37
Speaker 1: out what's wrong with Dave this morning. We're gonna find
55:38
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Speaker 3: Six.
55:47
Speaker 1: As I you've have KC the talk station. This is
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Speaker 1: that rely on for all your business computer needs. Feel
56:05
Speaker 1: a little under the wetter? Are you have you consulted
56:07
Speaker 1: AI bot? Dave Hatter?
56:10
Speaker 3: Now, Brian, I'm gonna have you guess. Do you think no?
56:14
Speaker 3: And I would that I would a put any sensitive
56:17
Speaker 3: information into any sort of AI bottles. Yeah, and then
56:22
Speaker 3: b take its advice as uh as gospel, because you know,
56:26
Speaker 3: we have an ever increasing number of cases showing that
56:30
Speaker 3: these things will literally just make things up and then
56:32
Speaker 3: try to convince.
56:33
Speaker 1: You there correct or to kill yourself because you have
56:35
Speaker 1: a head colt.
56:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, yeah you might not.
56:40
Speaker 1: You're dying. You're dying. You may as well just fast
56:42
Speaker 1: forward and get it over with. It's the right thing
56:44
Speaker 1: to do.
56:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, some sort of nasal cancer. You better go off yourself.
56:48
Speaker 3: It's a no, there's there's folks have to have to understand.
56:53
Speaker 3: And this is something you and I have talked about
56:55
Speaker 3: off and on not on this specific topic, but the
56:58
Speaker 3: idea that the more information you put out there about yourself, right,
57:03
Speaker 3: the more that information will get corelated, sold, et cetera.
57:08
Speaker 3: And is it possible that at some point you won't
57:12
Speaker 3: get a job, or your insurance premium will go up
57:15
Speaker 3: or something like that, you won't be able to rent
57:17
Speaker 3: an apartment because there's data out there about you which
57:20
Speaker 3: might be incorrect. I mean, for example, you may enter
57:24
Speaker 3: your symptoms about something and that data gets sold and
57:28
Speaker 3: then you know, someone some AI some person draws a
57:31
Speaker 3: wrong conclusion or it gets mixed in with other data
57:34
Speaker 3: and they draw wrong conclusion, and some AI algorithm somewhere
57:37
Speaker 3: that someone has sold to some company that helps them
57:40
Speaker 3: supposedly determine whether you're a good renter or a good employee,
57:44
Speaker 3: or a good insurable or whatever it is, is making
57:48
Speaker 3: wrong decisions based on that information which is not correct
57:51
Speaker 3: to begin with. Yeah, that's that's a real threat. And
57:54
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you right now. It's you know, it's
57:57
Speaker 3: one thing. If you have a standalone AI set up
58:00
Speaker 3: like Ohama or something, you know, I still wouldn't really
58:03
Speaker 3: put my information in there. I would not take its advice.
58:07
Speaker 3: Might I ask it a question and see what it
58:09
Speaker 3: says and then compare that to other resources. Yes, maybe
58:13
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't, just because that's the way I am. However,
58:18
Speaker 3: if you're using these free online tools, you need to
58:21
Speaker 3: understand first off, unless you've read and understood the privacy
58:24
Speaker 3: policy and or the terms of service, which is probably
58:27
Speaker 3: going to be at minimum and eighty page confuse ofuly
58:30
Speaker 3: of mumbo jumbo that you can't understand. You don't know
58:33
Speaker 3: where your data is going to go, you don't know
58:35
Speaker 3: who they might sell it to. You don't know how
58:38
Speaker 3: that could be used in ways that you would not
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Speaker 3: appreciate or approve of if you understood. So yeah, I'm
58:43
Speaker 3: just I'm telling you all straight up now, there is
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Speaker 3: absolutely no chance I would use any sort of free
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Speaker 3: online AI tool Chat, ept, Perplexity, Claude Grock fill in
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Speaker 3: the blank. I would not use any of them, by
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Speaker 3: you to as a platform where I'm going to enter
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Speaker 3: sensitive information about myself or my family, especially health related information, well,
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Speaker 3: knowing that there's no control over that once I hit the.
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Speaker 1: Button, okay, and I get all that, And you know,
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Speaker 1: you often find out after crimes have been committed, they
59:16
Speaker 1: go back and do look at your Internet search and
59:18
Speaker 1: see if you've looked up like how to dispose of
59:20
Speaker 1: a body or whatever that's obviously incriminating relative to the
59:23
Speaker 1: crime scene. So but I have you know, I haven't
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Speaker 1: used the AI platforms like chat, GPT, but I have
59:31
Speaker 1: looked up certain diseases. Like a friend is diagnosed with something,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is that, I'll go in
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Speaker 1: and look it up. That doesn't mean it applies to me,
59:38
Speaker 1: it's just I'm curious about it. It was a Mayo
59:40
Speaker 1: clinic website. It's got all kinds of information, for example,
59:43
Speaker 1: So that could be presumed by the folks out there
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Speaker 1: collecting information about my IP address that I'm the one
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Speaker 1: struggling with that and I'm the one suffering for whatever
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Speaker 1: disease has been looked up.
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Speaker 3: Yes, how do they know that you're not the person
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Speaker 3: that has the potential disease that you're looking at?
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Speaker 1: How know that I don't have it and I'm just
1:00:02
Speaker 1: looking it up out of curiosity.
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Speaker 3: Well they don't. But my point is, once that data
1:00:08
Speaker 3: gets sold somewhere down the line, can someone infer that
1:00:12
Speaker 3: maybe Brian Thomas has fill in the blank because he
1:00:16
Speaker 3: looked it up twice.
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Speaker 1: Wow, you know so, yeah, I think I'd like a
1:00:21
Speaker 1: hearing on that, a little due process before people reach
1:00:24
Speaker 1: erroneous conclusions, perhaps without my knowledge. That that's scary, Dave,
1:00:28
Speaker 1: it really is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm just telling you that at the end
1:00:32
Speaker 3: of the day, when you use anything that's online, you're
1:00:35
Speaker 3: being tracked constantly. May you know a lot of these
1:00:37
Speaker 3: medical sites are some of the worst offenders of trackers
1:00:41
Speaker 3: and finger printing and all that sort of thing. We've
1:00:43
Speaker 3: talked about that before, and people can go research that
1:00:45
Speaker 3: for themselves, but again they don't. Yes, you may have
1:00:49
Speaker 3: some just random curiosity. You saw an ad on TV
1:00:52
Speaker 3: and what does this drug do? What is this disease? Right,
1:00:55
Speaker 3: because they're constantly trying to tell you this stuff. But yes, understand,
1:00:58
Speaker 3: when you go look that up, if it's traceable directly
1:01:01
Speaker 3: to you and through things like browser fingerprinting, it's increasingly
1:01:05
Speaker 3: difficult to stop that. You know, if you have the
1:01:08
Speaker 3: right tools and you know what you're doing, and you
1:01:10
Speaker 3: use a VPN and all that, you can make it
1:01:13
Speaker 3: much more difficult to attribute that to you specifically.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what my question was going to be. Using
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Speaker 1: a VPN that masks my personal IP address, and it
1:01:21
Speaker 1: gives me one of the ones that's generically used by
1:01:23
Speaker 1: anybody else with a VPN. So you got Nord VPN.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: They think you're in Chicago or Poughkeepsie or in you know, Venezuela,
1:01:30
Speaker 1: wherever the servers are. They can't trace that directly to
1:01:33
Speaker 1: you individually. It's the VPN that they're they're they're connecting
1:01:37
Speaker 1: it with.
1:01:37
Speaker 3: Well they can, yes, the endpoint is not going to
1:01:40
Speaker 3: be able to trace that back to you. They'll just
1:01:42
Speaker 3: see whatever VPN endpoint you came out of. So to
1:01:46
Speaker 3: your point, you know, I could sign into my Proton
1:01:49
Speaker 3: VPN today and come out of let's say Austria or
1:01:53
Speaker 3: you know wherever I want. Sure, so it's going to
1:01:55
Speaker 3: appear that I'm there. But here's the thing that most
1:01:57
Speaker 3: people still don't really understand. Your web browser, in conjunction
1:02:02
Speaker 3: with your operating system on your device, can be fingerprinted
1:02:06
Speaker 3: in a way that is, if not unique, very very
1:02:09
Speaker 3: close to unique. And here's what I mean by that.
1:02:11
Speaker 3: The exact way your computer, your phone, whatever is configured
1:02:16
Speaker 3: is unlikely to be exactly the same as mine, even
1:02:18
Speaker 3: if we both have Windows eleven for example, and all
1:02:21
Speaker 3: of This information is not all of it. Much of
1:02:24
Speaker 3: it is sent to every web request, and these apps
1:02:28
Speaker 3: that people are using can collect even more information than
1:02:30
Speaker 3: a web browser can. So even if you're using a VPN,
1:02:34
Speaker 3: I can potentially capture a unique fingerprint or something that
1:02:38
Speaker 3: is very likely to be unique to you, right, like
1:02:42
Speaker 3: maybe you're one in one hundred people in the whole world.
1:02:45
Speaker 3: And even with things like blocking cookies, even with things
1:02:48
Speaker 3: like a VPN, it is possible to more or less
1:02:52
Speaker 3: uniquely identify someone. So I'm just warning jokes out there.
1:02:56
Speaker 3: If you think that you can have anonymity simply because
1:02:59
Speaker 3: you're using a v and you can go online and
1:03:01
Speaker 3: look up things that you don't want other people to
1:03:03
Speaker 3: know about, whether it's born or diseases or whatever aperient
1:03:09
Speaker 3: interest you might have, it is possible that you will
1:03:13
Speaker 3: be uniquely identified. And again you've got to understand, Brian,
1:03:17
Speaker 3: most of these companies that are providing all these so
1:03:19
Speaker 3: called free services to you, free medical advice, whatever it is, right,
1:03:24
Speaker 3: they're making money off collecting your data. They're making money
1:03:27
Speaker 3: off serving up ads to you. They're potentially making money
1:03:30
Speaker 3: off selling your data so that other people can sell
1:03:33
Speaker 3: ads to you or know that or think you have
1:03:35
Speaker 3: disease X, so they can now send you the latest
1:03:38
Speaker 3: medical information, latest pharmaceutical data, or whatever it is. You know,
1:03:43
Speaker 3: they are heavily incentivized to want to uniquely identify you
1:03:46
Speaker 3: and track you across the Internet because there's power in
1:03:50
Speaker 3: that data, right, there's power in the profiling of you
1:03:54
Speaker 3: and me and Joe and everyone else out there to
1:03:56
Speaker 3: figure out how you think, what you do, what you're
1:04:00
Speaker 3: interested in, and sell you more stuff. That's the fundamental
1:04:02
Speaker 3: reason for it. And there are these others downstream consequences.
1:04:07
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, Yeah, don't don't.
1:04:09
Speaker 3: Enter your health information in a chat pot. Don't do it.
1:04:11
Speaker 1: And Tom wo'ld say, don't fote Democrats six forty nine
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Speaker 1: the smells that that's regularly surrounding you. At sixty fifty
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Speaker 1: about car CE detalks station tech part of Dave had
1:04:24
Speaker 1: it brought to you by intrust it. Okay, So they're
1:04:27
Speaker 1: deliberately degrading consoles through software upgrades. This it's like the
1:04:32
Speaker 1: products these days are have like an internal self destruct mechanism.
1:04:36
Speaker 1: Nothing lasts as long as it used to. Dave so
1:04:38
Speaker 1: you gotta go out and buy a new one. Is
1:04:39
Speaker 1: this done? I guess the same thing via software.
1:04:43
Speaker 3: Well apparently that is the case. So Tom's Hardware has
1:04:47
Speaker 3: this article. Uh Am I allowed to say this word, Brian.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: No, Joe said, I don't even know what word you're
1:04:52
Speaker 1: talking about.
1:04:54
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so, oh and s wortification. We can call
1:04:58
Speaker 3: it that, yes, which I love this word, by the way,
1:05:01
Speaker 3: because I think it is a perfect description. And Corey
1:05:04
Speaker 3: Doctor wrote a whole book about this, the idea that
1:05:09
Speaker 3: these so called smart products are increasingly making the world
1:05:16
Speaker 3: less good. Now you know, I've been on this for
1:05:18
Speaker 3: a long time, Brian, really primarily because of the privacy
1:05:21
Speaker 3: and security aspects of these devices. But I'm just going
1:05:24
Speaker 3: to quote directly from this article. Okay, so the headline again,
1:05:28
Speaker 3: I'll skip the word Norwegen government watch dog calls out
1:05:31
Speaker 3: quote in assification of video games, connected devices and others
1:05:35
Speaker 3: flames hardware deliberately degraded after purchase. And they say this
1:05:40
Speaker 3: direct quote from the article, we companies can degrade the
1:05:43
Speaker 3: functionality of your car or effectively destroy your connected washing
1:05:46
Speaker 3: machine with the software updates. Does the report going on
1:05:50
Speaker 3: to call out printer in cartridges, smart home devices that
1:05:52
Speaker 3: lose features that require subscriptions post purchase, and connected devices
1:05:56
Speaker 3: where functionality is gated or removed over time. Since it's
1:05:59
Speaker 3: a Tesla's driving feature, which is switched to a subscription
1:06:02
Speaker 3: only service as of February fourteenth, the report also Yeah.
1:06:06
Speaker 3: The report also describes how freemium games use forced ad
1:06:09
Speaker 3: breaks and in game virtual currencies to convert what we're
1:06:12
Speaker 3: one single game purchase titles into recurring revenue streams. You know,
1:06:15
Speaker 3: the idea that I bought a new car and if
1:06:17
Speaker 3: I want to use the heated seats because it's all
1:06:20
Speaker 3: software based, right, It's all software based, so I can
1:06:23
Speaker 3: turn off your seats until you want to pay the
1:06:25
Speaker 3: subscription fee or any other feature. But the bigger concern
1:06:29
Speaker 3: I have about this, you know I and this goes
1:06:31
Speaker 3: back to, you know, lawsuits against John Deere where they've said, oh,
1:06:35
Speaker 3: you can't fix your own equipment because we own the
1:06:38
Speaker 3: intellectual property of the software and this sort of thing.
1:06:40
Speaker 3: And it's not unique to John Deere. I'm not trying
1:06:42
Speaker 3: to single them out. I'm just saying that in general,
1:06:45
Speaker 3: there have been lawsuits against companies in the past because
1:06:48
Speaker 3: of the right to repair. That's sort of the idea
1:06:52
Speaker 3: that I bought something, it's mine now, and if I
1:06:55
Speaker 3: want to repair it myself, I should be able to.
1:06:58
Speaker 3: But as we get into this increasing the digital world
1:07:01
Speaker 3: of Internet of things, so called smart devices, well, do
1:07:04
Speaker 3: you really own it if it has software in it
1:07:06
Speaker 3: that can control it and you know one or more
1:07:08
Speaker 3: features can be shut off? And let me give you
1:07:11
Speaker 3: an example of why I despise this stuff. Brian, and
1:07:14
Speaker 3: I keep trying to explain to people, I'm not inherently
1:07:16
Speaker 3: against it. I'm against the fact that we are now
1:07:19
Speaker 3: in a world where everything has software in it. People
1:07:22
Speaker 3: don't understand the risks. They don't know how to configure
1:07:24
Speaker 3: it correctly, they don't know how to update it, and
1:07:26
Speaker 3: in fact, in many cases the companies that make it
1:07:29
Speaker 3: will not provide updates after a certain period of time.
1:07:33
Speaker 3: They can turn things off, but it can be hacked.
1:07:35
Speaker 3: Here's an example. Headline cyber attack leaves main drivers with
1:07:39
Speaker 3: breathalyzer test systems unable to start vehicles. A cyber attack
1:07:44
Speaker 3: is shut down a national breathalyzer test system found in
1:07:46
Speaker 3: vehicles of OUI offenders, impacting thousands of drivers in Maine
1:07:50
Speaker 3: and forty five other states, then I'm reading from the article.
1:07:54
Speaker 3: Once the device is installed, drivers have to pass the
1:07:56
Speaker 3: breathalyzer test where they can start their vehicle. It won't
1:07:59
Speaker 3: start if your alcohol alcohol is point to or higher.
1:08:01
Speaker 3: But since the cyber breach shut its entire system down
1:08:04
Speaker 3: on Saturday, anyone with one of the devices cannot start
1:08:07
Speaker 3: their car. So you may end up losing your job
1:08:11
Speaker 3: because your car won't start due to some sort of
1:08:14
Speaker 3: Internet connected device. Or better yet, Brian, now that your
1:08:17
Speaker 3: car is a rolling computer, what happens when an adversarial
1:08:20
Speaker 3: nation just turns your car off for you, or when
1:08:23
Speaker 3: you when you violate some you know, theoretical law or whatever,
1:08:27
Speaker 3: and now you can't use your car because the system
1:08:30
Speaker 3: has decided that you can't. You can't use the car.
1:08:34
Speaker 3: This is this is where the in word comes in
1:08:38
Speaker 3: that we've been describing the nsification, right, We're headed into
1:08:44
Speaker 3: a crazy place if people do not get wise to
1:08:48
Speaker 3: the fact that all of these Internet of things devices
1:08:51
Speaker 3: where we're at today are not good. They're hackable. Here's
1:08:54
Speaker 3: yet another example. I keep trying to point these out,
1:08:57
Speaker 3: and yeah, the less of these we have, the better.
1:09:00
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, it started to give a voice
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Speaker 4: to those that didn't have one for fear of you know,
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Speaker 4: retribution at work. So they have a void.
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Speaker 1: We motivated to reveal that voice, or we motivate the
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Speaker 1: lack of local reporting on the extraordinarily important subject matter
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Speaker 1: that you write about, like you know, Police Chief Washington,
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Speaker 1: which we're going to get here and how why was
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Speaker 1: he terminated police chief Thiji? Why was she put on
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Speaker 1: administrative lee Lord knows. We don't know the answer to
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Speaker 1: I mean, all of these things are so important you
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Speaker 1: enquire But there is there are media outlets out there,
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Speaker 1: there are reporting, there's reporting out there, but never seems
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Speaker 4: Well, part of that problem are you know, news directors
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Speaker 4: and uh CEOs and attorneys for the media. You know,
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Speaker 4: they're sometimes hesitant to to dive into that stuff. The
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Speaker 4: from the person that took the original video on a
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Speaker 4: cell phone. If they you know, if they want to
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Speaker 4: publish it they have, They're they're constrained by so many
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Speaker 4: things that we're not. So you know, we we vet
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Speaker 4: our sources, we double checked, and we do our best
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Speaker 4: to make sure everything we put out there is factual.
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Speaker 4: But we don't have to do all of that, we
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Speaker 4: just blow it up.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I know, regular report reporters regularly rely
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Speaker 1: on sources that requested anonymity due to the sensitive nature
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Speaker 1: the information. You still get reporting on it, and you're
1:14:03
Speaker 1: talking about public figures here for the most part, which
1:14:05
Speaker 1: you know don't enjoy the level of privacy or scrutiny.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps that then reporting on just an everyday citizen have.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to talk about Cheryl Long,
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Speaker 1: you're going to talk about aftab per Boll, youre going
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Speaker 1: to talk about council members, they're all public figures, which
1:14:19
Speaker 1: is a higher level of a protection journalists have when
1:14:23
Speaker 1: reporting on these matters. So I questioned the reluctance to
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Speaker 1: do it.
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Speaker 4: Well, for instance, remember when we posted the actual repo
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Speaker 4: order on the mayor's car last year right after the election.
1:14:40
Speaker 4: So that's not a public document. So Ford Motor Credit
1:14:44
Speaker 4: was really upset that we got a hold of that.
1:14:47
Speaker 4: But the media could not get a copy of that
1:14:50
Speaker 4: because it's not available in a public records request. That is,
1:14:55
Speaker 4: you know, it's just not So they were very frustrated
1:14:59
Speaker 4: because that was a big news story for them and
1:15:01
Speaker 4: they all wanted to blow it up and they just couldn't.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's why we had to get a copy of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's why.
1:15:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we fill that void.
1:15:12
Speaker 1: That's why we love talking to you. Signal ninety nine
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Speaker 1: double down on that point. So it's worthy to follower
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Speaker 1: and see what she's up to, because she'll have the
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Speaker 1: information for anybody else. All Right, real quick here, before
1:15:24
Speaker 1: we get to Police Chief Washington and the current proceedings
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Speaker 1: that are going on relative to him, how about your
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Speaker 1: reaction to the survey about how people feel about the
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Speaker 1: police this recent survey that was released by Downtown Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: They crunch these numbers every couple of years, and it
1:15:38
Speaker 1: didn't look like the figures were good across the board.
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Speaker 1: But how safety you feel in your neighborhood fifty percent
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Speaker 1: satisfied or very satisfied. That kind of question your reaction
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Speaker 1: to how residents feel, And there was a comical argument
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Speaker 1: that was made in response to this satisfaction survey generally, well,
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Speaker 1: we just need to convince people that they're wrong in
1:15:57
Speaker 1: their perception. In other words, we need a better men
1:16:00
Speaker 1: messaging campaign. You don't don't believe your own eyes, don't
1:16:03
Speaker 1: believe your own experiences, just believe in our new public
1:16:06
Speaker 1: relations spin on things.
1:16:10
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I find most interesting about that, Brian,
1:16:13
Speaker 4: is that they had the result in October of last year.
1:16:18
Speaker 4: So why did they wait until March of this year
1:16:22
Speaker 4: to publish it?
1:16:25
Speaker 3: Because they didn't.
1:16:26
Speaker 4: They didn't want to do it before the election, obviously,
1:16:29
Speaker 4: and I think I think that they they knew how
1:16:33
Speaker 4: bad it was going to look, and they thought serving
1:16:35
Speaker 4: up Chief Tigi might offset that a little bit, they
1:16:39
Speaker 4: could toint the finger at her. But no, I mean,
1:16:43
Speaker 4: it wasn't Chief Fiji on the TV or talk to
1:16:47
Speaker 4: you know, the press all the time, saying the city's safe,
1:16:51
Speaker 4: Come enjoy the city, it's perfectly safe. That was the mayor.
1:16:55
Speaker 4: That wasn't Chief Figi. That was the mayor telling everybody
1:16:59
Speaker 4: that nobody bought it, and that survey pretty much shows that.
1:17:04
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I got to ask you a point
1:17:06
Speaker 1: of question, Seine how could anyone buy it? They put
1:17:09
Speaker 1: her on administrative lead but didn't cite a single thing
1:17:13
Speaker 1: as a justification for placing our administrative leave, and to
1:17:16
Speaker 1: this day we still.
1:17:17
Speaker 2: Don't know why.
1:17:19
Speaker 4: Well, and that's why they keep extending the investigations. Yes,
1:17:23
Speaker 4: because they're looking for anything, anything to justify terminating her.
1:17:29
Speaker 4: And I believe they're going to come up with some
1:17:33
Speaker 4: really ridiculous reason to justify termination. I think they're going
1:17:37
Speaker 4: to do that, okay, and then that'll be just one
1:17:39
Speaker 4: more huge loss against the city.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Well we know that's coming, and we'll talk about Chief
1:17:44
Speaker 1: Washington next in terms of big lawsuits coming at the city.
1:17:47
Speaker 1: But how could they hope to have any credibility. They
1:17:50
Speaker 1: can't cite anything at all now to justify the administrative
1:17:54
Speaker 1: leave to hire this law firm, the extend the law
1:17:56
Speaker 1: firms contract a couple of extra months to keep looking
1:17:58
Speaker 1: and looking and looking. She's got more than thirty years
1:18:01
Speaker 1: of public service as a police officer, and you know,
1:18:04
Speaker 1: a fairly storied career. Her entire family's been involved in
1:18:07
Speaker 1: law enforcement. I mean, it's a really well respected family.
1:18:10
Speaker 1: But if this law firm were to find something in
1:18:13
Speaker 1: the thirty plus year career in the records that belonged
1:18:15
Speaker 1: to Police Chief DG. How in God's name are they
1:18:18
Speaker 1: going to justify last summer's administrative leave placement if it
1:18:24
Speaker 1: takes them this long to find really anything that's critical
1:18:29
Speaker 1: of Fiji's tenure as a police officer, let alone as
1:18:33
Speaker 1: wild police chief.
1:18:36
Speaker 4: Well, not only that, but how much did this is
1:18:39
Speaker 4: this investigation costs in the taxpayers?
1:18:44
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Initially I believe it was forty
1:18:47
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Whether or not the law firm is providing
1:18:49
Speaker 1: pro bono work on it right now remains to be seen.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: Let's pause. We'll bring Signal ninety nine back quite a
1:18:55
Speaker 1: few topics that go over with her this morning, including
1:18:57
Speaker 1: yet care and see the talk station see I think
1:19:02
Speaker 1: about KARCD talk station Brian Thomas with Signal ninety nine again,
1:19:06
Speaker 1: recommendation strong one for anybody in the greater Cincinnatia wants
1:19:09
Speaker 1: to know about the shenanigans going on in downtown and
1:19:11
Speaker 1: there are seemingly an endless list of those kind of
1:19:13
Speaker 1: problems going on. Signal ninety nine gets the info, passes
1:19:16
Speaker 1: along to you and me and we get to learn
1:19:18
Speaker 1: all about it. And let's pivot over to former chief
1:19:21
Speaker 1: fire Chief Michael Washington, and good morning, mister Washington. It's
1:19:24
Speaker 1: a pleasure having him out there listening to the program.
1:19:26
Speaker 1: Someone told me he was first Cincinnati fireteeth to be
1:19:30
Speaker 1: fired from the position, and it was under very questionable circumstances,
1:19:33
Speaker 1: which led him to file a lawsuit claiming his dismissal
1:19:36
Speaker 1: was unjust and unlawful. So now we're at the process
1:19:40
Speaker 1: where the City of Cincinnati is claiming that they're entitled
1:19:44
Speaker 1: to qualified immunity. Now this is a due process claim.
1:19:47
Speaker 1: The city claim, accordingly to his allegations, violated his due
1:19:51
Speaker 1: process rights and defamed his character. So the looming question is, well,
1:19:56
Speaker 1: even if the city violated mister Washington's rights, the lesson
1:20:00
Speaker 1: titled to qualified immunity. There was an oral argument in
1:20:03
Speaker 1: court the other day on this one, signal ninety nine.
1:20:05
Speaker 1: Where are we.
1:20:07
Speaker 4: Well? The argument was actually yesterday. Did you get a
1:20:11
Speaker 4: chance to listen to it?
1:20:12
Speaker 1: I didn't get I know you posted it. Thank you
1:20:14
Speaker 1: for doing so. I haven't had a chance to listen
1:20:15
Speaker 1: to it yet. I just realized this morning that you
1:20:17
Speaker 1: had posted the arguments in court.
1:20:20
Speaker 4: So it was phenomenal. So let me just say it's
1:20:26
Speaker 4: about share a long qualified immunity. It's about not only
1:20:31
Speaker 4: did she deny Keith Washington due process? She absolutely did,
1:20:37
Speaker 4: but it's also about you know, she wants protection underqualified immunity,
1:20:42
Speaker 4: but malisiousness also takes that off the table, so they're
1:20:47
Speaker 4: getting her kind of two ways. From Sunday and Stephen
1:20:51
Speaker 4: m the attorney for Mike Washington, I just have to
1:20:54
Speaker 4: say he's the greatest attorney of all time. He's also
1:20:58
Speaker 4: my attorney, and I love it. He did a phenomenal
1:21:01
Speaker 4: job yesterday. He kind of schooled the federal court and
1:21:07
Speaker 4: I was so impressed. Well, the city solicitor seemed to
1:21:11
Speaker 4: be desperately struggling tread and water, and I don't think
1:21:17
Speaker 4: they're going to farewell. I think this decision is going
1:21:21
Speaker 4: to be handed down and the city's not going to
1:21:24
Speaker 4: be happy, and this is their last ditch effort to
1:21:27
Speaker 4: stall this. I think Cheryl Long is going to be
1:21:30
Speaker 4: on the hook big time. I think they are going
1:21:33
Speaker 4: to stay with the lower court's decision and I don't
1:21:38
Speaker 4: see them overturning it. Personally, that's my thoughts about it.
1:21:41
Speaker 1: And from a procedural posture, it's important for those who
1:21:43
Speaker 1: are not following his close attention to Signal ninety nine
1:21:46
Speaker 1: is yes. At the lower court level, this is an
1:21:48
Speaker 1: appeal from the city. Lower court found that they that
1:21:50
Speaker 1: she did not enjoy qualified immunity, and so the appealed that.
1:21:54
Speaker 1: And that was what the argument was about in front
1:21:56
Speaker 1: of the Pillar Court yesterday. If I got that right
1:21:58
Speaker 1: from a procedural posture standpoint, yes, and.
1:22:01
Speaker 4: And you know the real question is did it even
1:22:05
Speaker 4: belong in federal court? I would say no two times down.
1:22:09
Speaker 4: I think the city is ridiculous, But I also think
1:22:12
Speaker 4: that they're going to get schooled very very very much so.
1:22:17
Speaker 4: And I think it's going to cost them a lot
1:22:19
Speaker 4: of money. Well, you know, the more they want to
1:22:23
Speaker 4: mess around, you know, just keep adding zeros to that lawsuit.
1:22:28
Speaker 1: And don't forget attorney's fees. I see. I'm thinking Stephen
1:22:32
Speaker 1: m is paying close attention to his hourly billable charges
1:22:36
Speaker 1: and what will apply when he asks for reimbursement from
1:22:38
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati for his attorney's fees. That's going
1:22:41
Speaker 1: to be a sizeable amount.
1:22:42
Speaker 6: I imagine.
1:22:44
Speaker 4: Oh, I guarantee you it will.
1:22:47
Speaker 1: This goes back and agree that years three years I'll
1:22:51
Speaker 1: tell you what. Yeah, yeah, three years this month. Okay,
1:22:54
Speaker 1: So I want to go back when we when we
1:22:57
Speaker 1: return from break, because I want you to fresh everybody's recollection,
1:23:01
Speaker 1: including mine. Quite honestly, what was originally the argument was
1:23:05
Speaker 1: that justified his dismissal because I think, unlike Police Chief
1:23:10
Speaker 1: Teresa Thiji, being placed on administratively with literally no specific claim,
1:23:16
Speaker 1: that they did make up some specific allegations which the
1:23:18
Speaker 1: city claimed justified City Manager Long's decision to dismiss him.
1:23:24
Speaker 1: So let's we'll bring back and we'll get a conclusion
1:23:27
Speaker 1: to wrap up on what's going on with with fire
1:23:29
Speaker 1: chief former fire Chief Washington. I guess he probably will
1:23:32
Speaker 1: get his job back too. On top of things that
1:23:33
Speaker 1: Sita here fifty five KRCD talk station, Brian Thomas with
1:23:36
Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine, the source of some really great information.
1:23:39
Speaker 1: You can follow her on Facebook because I recommend you
1:23:41
Speaker 1: do fortunate enough to get her here on the fifty
1:23:43
Speaker 1: five KARSS Morning Show. And I appreciate your friendship with
1:23:46
Speaker 1: Joe Strecker. So I get the opportunity to talk with
1:23:49
Speaker 1: the Signal ninety nine, depriving others of that opportunity. We're
1:23:52
Speaker 1: talking about right now, Michael Washington, former CINCINNTI fire chief
1:23:55
Speaker 1: who was terminated three years ago, first chief to be
1:23:57
Speaker 1: fired from the position under allegation of some concerns over
1:24:01
Speaker 1: I guess workplace culture or something. So right now. The
1:24:05
Speaker 1: argument of federal court yesterday on appeal, and this was
1:24:08
Speaker 1: made in a trial court in the lower court as well,
1:24:10
Speaker 1: that it's qualified immunity. So you don't get to the
1:24:13
Speaker 1: argument of qualified immunity until you address the wrongful termination claim.
1:24:17
Speaker 1: So he goes into court and says, hey, you violated
1:24:20
Speaker 1: my due process right you terminated me unlawfully. There was
1:24:23
Speaker 1: no reason for it. The defense would be no, no, no,
1:24:26
Speaker 1: here are the specific allegations and justifying why we terminated you.
1:24:32
Speaker 1: Then if you don't believe that, court, we pivot over
1:24:35
Speaker 1: to even if what he says is true, we're still
1:24:38
Speaker 1: entitled to immunity. In other words, you can't get any
1:24:40
Speaker 1: money out of me because we get qualified immunity, and
1:24:43
Speaker 1: that we would be city manager Cherylong who made the claim.
1:24:46
Speaker 1: But the allegations beneath it. My understanding is this sprung
1:24:51
Speaker 1: from some women helping women climate survey or something. But
1:24:58
Speaker 1: you need to fill in the blanks on that signal
1:24:59
Speaker 1: ninety nine, so we know what the underlying charges are,
1:25:01
Speaker 1: which basically ruined his reputation.
1:25:05
Speaker 4: So, yeah, there was a couple of grumbly female firefighters
1:25:10
Speaker 4: that were did not follow the chain of command. If
1:25:13
Speaker 4: they were unhappy that they weren't getting they weren't allowed
1:25:18
Speaker 4: to sit in on assistant chief meetings with the chief. Well,
1:25:22
Speaker 4: of course not, they're not assistant chief. So they grumbled
1:25:25
Speaker 4: about that Sarah Long allowed them to come directly to
1:25:29
Speaker 4: her and constantly give her feedback and information and complain
1:25:35
Speaker 4: directly to her, and that's not following the chain of
1:25:38
Speaker 4: command by any means.
1:25:40
Speaker 1: Don't they have a collective bargaining agreement, which which uh yeah, okay,
1:25:43
Speaker 1: that's what I thought.
1:25:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So they tried to push that narrative and
1:25:48
Speaker 4: that that wasn't going to really fly. So what they
1:25:52
Speaker 4: actually terminated him for. The fire chief has to show
1:25:56
Speaker 4: up for a high rise fire with or without fatalities.
1:26:01
Speaker 4: They have to show up for fatality fires. Okay, Chief
1:26:07
Speaker 4: Washington didn't go to a high rise fire because he
1:26:12
Speaker 4: wasn't notified about it. Now that begs the question. Was
1:26:17
Speaker 4: he not notified intentionally or was it simply a mistake
1:26:24
Speaker 4: that they forgot to notify him. But the point is
1:26:27
Speaker 4: is he missed a high rise fire and that's the
1:26:30
Speaker 4: excuse they used for terminating him. However, Chief Wu Tang
1:26:35
Speaker 4: Frank McKinley has missed a high rights fire this year
1:26:39
Speaker 4: and several fatality fires. So he just never showed up.
1:26:44
Speaker 4: In fact, at the one fatality fire where there were
1:26:47
Speaker 4: actually three fatalities, he was at a feedinel dinner with
1:26:51
Speaker 4: Sharyl Long, go figure. So it's okay for this chief,
1:26:57
Speaker 4: this current chief, to not show up and not he
1:27:00
Speaker 4: held a cannibal for any of this. But Michael Washington
1:27:03
Speaker 4: misses one high rise fire with no fatalities, and that's
1:27:07
Speaker 4: the excuse they used to terminate him. And you know,
1:27:11
Speaker 4: I want to go on to say too bright. I
1:27:12
Speaker 4: don't know if you know about this, but last year
1:27:15
Speaker 4: Chief McKinley was accidentally overpaid ten thousand dollars by the city,
1:27:22
Speaker 4: and the city caught it. They reached out to him
1:27:24
Speaker 4: and then said, hey, we put an extra ten thousand
1:27:26
Speaker 4: dollars in your paycheck. You need to pay that back
1:27:30
Speaker 4: and he said, oh, yeah, sure, sure I will. Well,
1:27:32
Speaker 4: they kept calling, they kept emailing, they kept reaching out,
1:27:36
Speaker 4: he didn't pay it back. Take Gardner sheet his wages?
1:27:38
Speaker 4: Oh my god, who does that?
1:27:40
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:27:40
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's that's that's a public record, so
1:27:45
Speaker 4: you know, but he's not been fired for that either. No,
1:27:50
Speaker 4: it's just really interesting.
1:27:52
Speaker 1: Who doesn't make their car payment?
1:27:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a car payment twice?
1:28:00
Speaker 6: Oh no, I know.
1:28:00
Speaker 1: I had to go back to that since you brought
1:28:02
Speaker 1: it up earlier in the segments. Anyway, all right, so
1:28:06
Speaker 1: he doesn't get noticed. So there's no evidence that they
1:28:09
Speaker 1: presented to show that he got noticed of the fatality
1:28:11
Speaker 1: high or high rise fire. So you can't hold him
1:28:14
Speaker 1: accountable for that if you don't know about it. How
1:28:16
Speaker 1: can you be expected to show up for something you're
1:28:17
Speaker 1: not aware of? I get that point, But I thought
1:28:19
Speaker 1: there was also allegations independent completely of that, that there
1:28:22
Speaker 1: was some kind of workplace culture issues going on that
1:28:25
Speaker 1: led to his termination. Is that not what they ultimately
1:28:28
Speaker 1: hung their hat on?
1:28:30
Speaker 4: Again, this was the small group of female firefighters that
1:28:36
Speaker 4: demanded to be allowed into the command staff meetings with
1:28:40
Speaker 4: the assistant chief, and and they were told, no, you're
1:28:45
Speaker 4: not an assistant chief. No you're not going to be
1:28:48
Speaker 4: able to sit in on the meeting. You know, we
1:28:50
Speaker 4: discussed personnel issues, things of sensitive natures you cannot sit
1:28:56
Speaker 4: in on. So they grumbled, grumble, grumbled, but they didn't
1:28:58
Speaker 4: take it up the chain file a grievance. They went
1:29:01
Speaker 4: straight to share a long and she let them right
1:29:04
Speaker 4: in her office and heard everything they had to say.
1:29:07
Speaker 4: So they were little plants trying to help push him
1:29:12
Speaker 4: out the door.
1:29:13
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you to you know your
1:29:16
Speaker 1: subject of opinion unless you know for a fact the reasons,
1:29:18
Speaker 1: the motivations. Why were they so interested, Why was Cheryl
1:29:22
Speaker 1: Long so interested in terminating his role as chief of
1:29:25
Speaker 1: the fire department? Well, what I mean, what was wrong
1:29:27
Speaker 1: with him?
1:29:29
Speaker 4: Because he questioned a lot of the things that she
1:29:32
Speaker 4: was trying to implement, for instance, that the DEI step.
1:29:37
Speaker 4: He said, Look, DFD is full of diversity. I'm a
1:29:41
Speaker 4: black fire chief. We've got several, you know, hundreds of
1:29:47
Speaker 4: firefighters that are that are persons of color. We've got
1:29:51
Speaker 4: people within the LGBTQ spectrum, we've got women, you know,
1:29:55
Speaker 4: we've got we're already diverse, and we're not going to
1:29:58
Speaker 4: take this dee I candidate and jumped them for promotion
1:30:03
Speaker 4: over somebody who's more qualified and has put in the time.
1:30:08
Speaker 4: So she didn't like that. So, you know, she was
1:30:12
Speaker 4: And here's the thing. She knows absolutely nothing about the
1:30:16
Speaker 4: fire department. She knows nothing about the police department. So
1:30:21
Speaker 4: I mean, really, she knows nothing about being the city managers.
1:30:24
Speaker 4: So she just willie nilly started creating all these things
1:30:28
Speaker 4: that we're going to implement. And he pushed back and said,
1:30:33
Speaker 4: you know, and he didn't just say no, he said
1:30:35
Speaker 4: this is why this is this is why this is
1:30:37
Speaker 4: a bad idea, you know, and he would explain to her.
1:30:40
Speaker 4: She did not like that, So she doesn't like anybody
1:30:45
Speaker 4: that's that even remotely pushes back. So yeah, it's yeah.
1:30:54
Speaker 4: And so do I think they're going to give Chief
1:30:57
Speaker 4: Washington his job back. I wish, in my hope, my
1:31:00
Speaker 4: heart of hearts, I hope the city comes to their senses,
1:31:03
Speaker 4: but I just don't see it happening there. Instead, it's
1:31:06
Speaker 4: going to cost the taxpayer millions and millions and millions
1:31:09
Speaker 4: of dollars.
1:31:09
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you inserted the word taxpayer in there,
1:31:12
Speaker 1: because this is not coming out of Ryl Long's pocket,
1:31:15
Speaker 1: is not coming out of Parvol's pocket or Rollies Pocket's
1:31:17
Speaker 1: coming out of the city coffers, which means the taxpayers
1:31:20
Speaker 1: are on the hook for this just ridiculous conduct. Pause.
1:31:23
Speaker 1: We'll bring back signal ninety nine at seven thirty eight
1:31:26
Speaker 1: right now if you have KCD talks the talk station
1:31:30
Speaker 1: seven forty fifty five KRCD talk station Bryan Thomas was
1:31:32
Speaker 1: signaled ninety nine. Pivoting over to the relationship the Sincint
1:31:35
Speaker 1: Police Department, I guess used to have with the federal government.
1:31:38
Speaker 1: The CPD worked together in partnership with the federal government
1:31:41
Speaker 1: and built this award winning nationally recognized Criminal Gun Intelligence
1:31:47
Speaker 1: Center CGIIC, And they collect all this data, violent crime
1:31:52
Speaker 1: enforcement data, and they put it together and they use
1:31:54
Speaker 1: it for the purposes of boiling it down and figuring
1:31:56
Speaker 1: out who the bad guys are. So again, celebrated, I got.
1:31:59
Speaker 1: The federal government even ponied up some significant funds to
1:32:03
Speaker 1: help fund overtime for the CGIC, et cetera. And you
1:32:06
Speaker 1: did a very detailed report at signal ninety nine on Facebook.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: Why was it? What I will argue is why has
1:32:13
Speaker 1: it been essentially dismantled And all the people in the
1:32:16
Speaker 1: know that built this award winning program have been put
1:32:18
Speaker 1: by the Wayside Signal ninety nine.
1:32:21
Speaker 4: Well, you noticed, Brian, they didn't start trying to implode
1:32:25
Speaker 4: it from within until Chief Defu was placed on leads.
1:32:29
Speaker 4: So that begs the question, who stands to gain with
1:32:34
Speaker 4: dismantling SIEGIC and taking out this massively important brain of
1:32:42
Speaker 4: modern violent crime enforcement in the region. So, you know, speculating,
1:32:49
Speaker 4: of course, aside from the criminals getting away with it, Okay,
1:32:56
Speaker 4: they're probably going to rejoice about it, but how does
1:32:59
Speaker 4: IRUs really feel about this? Is there just too many
1:33:04
Speaker 4: people getting charged through SIEGIK in federal court and doing
1:33:10
Speaker 4: serious times.
1:33:12
Speaker 1: All federal court, Meaning they can get around the lax
1:33:15
Speaker 1: law enforcement perception of the Hamilton County judges by filing
1:33:18
Speaker 1: cases in federal court.
1:33:21
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So you've got to ask yourself, given the mayors
1:33:26
Speaker 4: really left leaning ideologies, the city managers, most of council,
1:33:33
Speaker 4: the county prosecutor, the sheriff, and most of the judges
1:33:38
Speaker 4: in Hamta County, you know they all want to you know,
1:33:42
Speaker 4: kumbai ad out. Oh let's just send them for therapy
1:33:46
Speaker 4: or you know, you know whatever, let's not send them
1:33:49
Speaker 4: to prison. They all have they all share this uh
1:33:55
Speaker 4: reimagined justice for violent crime and all offenders. Well, Cijik
1:34:01
Speaker 4: takes that right out of their hands. The prosecutor gets skipped,
1:34:05
Speaker 4: the sheriff gets skipped, the court house gets skipped. It
1:34:09
Speaker 4: goes straight to federal court. These guys and gals are
1:34:13
Speaker 4: are making federal cases. So now that's being sabotaged from within.
1:34:19
Speaker 4: These people are going to be just going through the
1:34:22
Speaker 4: motions and county court.
1:34:24
Speaker 1: Again we wait, and so I guess I have to
1:34:26
Speaker 1: put an exclamation point on this. The Criminal Gun Intelligence
1:34:30
Speaker 1: Center was wonderful and again noted nationally for its success
1:34:33
Speaker 1: and putting together all of this data so they could
1:34:38
Speaker 1: go to court supported by the data, probable cause charges filed.
1:34:42
Speaker 1: There will be due process in federal court, they will
1:34:45
Speaker 1: be entitled to an attorney. They will be able to
1:34:47
Speaker 1: argue that there should be reasonable doubt. So they're still
1:34:51
Speaker 1: getting all the benefits of the wonderful criminal justice system.
1:34:54
Speaker 1: It's just that they're in a different venue. And if
1:34:56
Speaker 1: to the extent the Criminal Gun Intelligence Center has create
1:35:00
Speaker 1: we hated whole cloth or otherwise fabricated data, the defense
1:35:02
Speaker 1: attorney's going to figure that out. No, this is real info,
1:35:07
Speaker 1: backed by evidence presented in court with an opportunity to
1:35:10
Speaker 1: defend oneself. So it happens in federal court, happens in
1:35:13
Speaker 1: state court. I don't know what the problem is. I
1:35:16
Speaker 1: really don't. Other than what you're painting a picture.
1:35:20
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, finish ahead.
1:35:24
Speaker 4: The problem is too many criminals are going to get
1:35:28
Speaker 4: hard several times. That's the problem. So we have to
1:35:33
Speaker 4: destroy it. We can't have this. We can't have you know,
1:35:37
Speaker 4: we can't bypass our own courthouse full of judges that
1:35:41
Speaker 4: are happy just putting people back on EMU or at
1:35:45
Speaker 4: a ten percent of a thousand dollars bond and just
1:35:48
Speaker 4: letting them roam the streets and keep committing violent crimes.
1:35:51
Speaker 4: We you know, softball sentencing. You know, they don't like that, Brian.
1:35:58
Speaker 4: They don't like the federal cor I'm federal prosecutors taking
1:36:03
Speaker 4: these cases out of their venue. They don't like it.
1:36:07
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder ya going back to the survey we
1:36:09
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, I wonder what the residents of the
1:36:11
Speaker 1: city is sin saying how they feel about lacks law
1:36:15
Speaker 1: enforcement and lacks sentencing. Because we all know many, many,
1:36:20
Speaker 1: many of the folks that have been the criminal justice
1:36:21
Speaker 1: systems are recidivists, and at some point, at some time,
1:36:24
Speaker 1: they need to be taught a lesson. If you keep
1:36:26
Speaker 1: letting them out the door and allowing them to get
1:36:28
Speaker 1: away with violence or maybe even allow them to commit
1:36:31
Speaker 1: crimes carrying a firearm when they're already under disability, we
1:36:34
Speaker 1: keep hearing about, oh my god, gun violence. We need
1:36:36
Speaker 1: to do some bad gun violence. Lock them up, make
1:36:40
Speaker 1: or demonstrate, or make an illustration out of them. You know,
1:36:43
Speaker 1: the cautionary tale. Gee, I guess I better not carry
1:36:46
Speaker 1: a gun or I'm going to have a problem on
1:36:48
Speaker 1: my hands.
1:36:49
Speaker 3: Gee.
1:36:49
Speaker 1: I thought that's what law enforcement was supposed to be about.
1:36:51
Speaker 1: One more was signal ninety nine coming up right now
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Speaker 1: at seven forty eight fifty five KRCD Talks seven fifty
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Speaker 1: you a couple more minutes here with signal ninety nine.
1:37:03
Speaker 1: My signal ninety nine. My phone's blowing up. So I
1:37:05
Speaker 1: got all kinds of people letting me know they're listening
1:37:07
Speaker 1: to and in getting thoroughly enlightened by your revelations here
1:37:11
Speaker 1: in the morning show, and again follow her on Facebook.
1:37:15
Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine. You're going to get these revelations almost
1:37:18
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, So boiled down, we have a
1:37:25
Speaker 1: wildly successful evidence gathering program working when cooperating with the
1:37:29
Speaker 1: federal government using all the data and resources they have.
1:37:33
Speaker 1: It's working well. It's recognized nationally as working, and we
1:37:37
Speaker 1: wouldn't even need the federal courts. But were it not
1:37:39
Speaker 1: for lax judges and soft on crime judges in Hamilton County, unfortunately,
1:37:44
Speaker 1: we do have a venue in federal court to handle
1:37:46
Speaker 1: these matters. There's you know, concurrent jurisdiction federal crimes and
1:37:50
Speaker 1: state crimes, but there are federal crimes that were violated here,
1:37:52
Speaker 1: and so why not just hall them into federal court
1:37:54
Speaker 1: where you know they're going to get justice. But the
1:37:56
Speaker 1: reaction from Cheril Long and the others in basically taking
1:37:59
Speaker 1: the win that of the sales of this award winning
1:38:01
Speaker 1: program by replacing them all with a whole bunch of
1:38:03
Speaker 1: different people. Are the people that they replaced the creators
1:38:07
Speaker 1: with the really experience since SINT police professionals are are
1:38:12
Speaker 1: they incapable of continuing the work at the Criminal Judge
1:38:15
Speaker 1: Intelligence Center or were they placed in the position because
1:38:18
Speaker 1: they're not capable of doing it? And therefore undermined the
1:38:22
Speaker 1: value of having the program in place Signal ninety nine.
1:38:26
Speaker 4: These individuals were there from the inception of CIJIK. You've
1:38:32
Speaker 4: got brains of intelligent analysts and supervisors and captains that
1:38:41
Speaker 4: have been moved out that are currently being transferred out
1:38:45
Speaker 4: and send to places like youth services or patrol, and
1:38:51
Speaker 4: it's ridiculous. It's a slap in the face. So here's
1:38:54
Speaker 4: what I'm going to say, Brian. I'm talking to Sheriff
1:38:57
Speaker 4: Stratton in Claremont County. I'm talking to Sheriff Jones and
1:39:02
Speaker 4: Butler County. I'm talking to the corner of Hamilton County.
1:39:07
Speaker 4: Then somebody step up and say, hey, you know what,
1:39:11
Speaker 4: We'll take CIGIC. We'll take CIGIC. We will allow the
1:39:16
Speaker 4: ATF and AHSI will take their three point eight million
1:39:20
Speaker 4: dollars that they pay for overtime a year for CIGIC
1:39:23
Speaker 4: and all of the technology, and you can work out
1:39:26
Speaker 4: of our department, and we'll just go ahead and hire
1:39:30
Speaker 4: all of these brilliant people that are being transferred out
1:39:34
Speaker 4: to get this division of SIEGIC under the CPD. Just
1:39:39
Speaker 4: hire them, take them. We need it in the region.
1:39:41
Speaker 4: It's not just Cincinnati it's.
1:39:43
Speaker 3: A regional.
1:39:46
Speaker 4: Gun crime Intelligence Center. So I'm throwing that out there,
1:39:53
Speaker 4: so hopefully somebody is willing to sit down with ATF
1:39:58
Speaker 4: and hs I and say, hey, I'm on over here.
1:40:00
Speaker 4: We'd be happy to have you. And I know that
1:40:04
Speaker 4: the people involved that are being transferred out are just
1:40:07
Speaker 4: passionate enough that they would consider weaving their careers with
1:40:10
Speaker 4: CPD if they could continue this work somewhere.
1:40:14
Speaker 1: Else fair enough. I know there's a four hire sign
1:40:18
Speaker 1: hanging in a lot of police departments outside of Hamilton
1:40:22
Speaker 1: County generally speaking, so there's some excellent opportunities maybe have
1:40:25
Speaker 1: a more stable work life, actually make a decent salary,
1:40:28
Speaker 1: and not have to do with the political shenanigans and
1:40:30
Speaker 1: nonsense coming out of city Hall here in the Greater
1:40:32
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Signal ninety nine. It has been a distinct
1:40:35
Speaker 1: pleasure having here on the show, as it always is,
1:40:37
Speaker 1: and I hope we can do this again. You know,
1:40:39
Speaker 1: it will be nice a week where there aren't any
1:40:43
Speaker 1: revelations that you show if you reveal on your page,
1:40:46
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the world's a safe place. There's nothing
1:40:48
Speaker 1: to talk about. You know, I'd still have you on.
1:40:50
Speaker 1: We could talk about something that's less heady, But God
1:40:53
Speaker 1: bless you for the work that you're doing on behalf
1:40:54
Speaker 1: of all of the residents of the city of Cincinnati
1:40:56
Speaker 1: and of course Hamilton County and beyond. And I'm sure
1:40:59
Speaker 1: that Chief Washington, former Chief Washington appreciate your support of him,
1:41:03
Speaker 1: as do I. And just wait for it. I think
1:41:06
Speaker 1: a big check's going to be written, Signal ninety and
1:41:08
Speaker 1: I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I want to
1:41:10
Speaker 1: thank you again for everything that you do for all
1:41:11
Speaker 1: of us.
1:41:13
Speaker 4: Hey, Brian, can I tell you one more day?
1:41:16
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
1:41:18
Speaker 4: My little birdies are telling me that Tonnie the Khan
1:41:21
Speaker 4: Pollitt is think about overturning yet another murder conviction. So
1:41:26
Speaker 4: I just want to ask you one question and then
1:41:28
Speaker 4: I'll let you go. Don't you have to have actual
1:41:31
Speaker 4: integrity to run and a conviction integrity unit. So that's
1:41:37
Speaker 4: my big question for the day, the.
1:41:38
Speaker 1: Big concluding rhetorical question. As we've heard company on a Friday,
1:41:42
Speaker 1: I have a wonderful weekend. We will apparently be talking
1:41:45
Speaker 1: again soon, probably about that. Other things. Take care of
1:41:48
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1:42:03
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1:42:18
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1:42:20
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1:42:33
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1:42:37
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1:42:40
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1:42:48
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1:42:52
Speaker 1: could go on and on. Don Man, Welcome to the
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Speaker 1: fifty five Carosey Morning Show. Thank you for your service
1:42:57
Speaker 1: to our country and your service to everybody else with
1:43:00
Speaker 1: your brand new book, The Navy Seal Playbook Principles, Practices
1:43:03
Speaker 1: and Strategies for Achieving Success. Good to have you here
1:43:07
Speaker 1: on the show.
1:43:08
Speaker 5: Oh, thanks so much for having me. It's a pleasure.
1:43:10
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I got to tell you, I
1:43:12
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of experience. I did not
1:43:14
Speaker 1: serve my country. I am always impressed because I've seen
1:43:16
Speaker 1: some of the training that the Navy Seals have to
1:43:20
Speaker 1: go to and all the hurdles that you have to
1:43:21
Speaker 1: overcome to even become a Navy Seal to know that
1:43:24
Speaker 1: I could not do it, which will lead me to
1:43:26
Speaker 1: another question. But I did get the opportunity, and thank
1:43:29
Speaker 1: you to my retired Lieutenant colonel and fifty cow trainer.
1:43:32
Speaker 1: I got to go to Camp Adderbury in Indiana on
1:43:35
Speaker 1: two occasions now and shoot fifty cows training the Navy Seals.
1:43:40
Speaker 1: So that is I got to tell you, man, And
1:43:43
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're cut from the same cloth as those guys.
1:43:46
Speaker 1: Those guys are awesome. They're just regular folks. It was
1:43:51
Speaker 1: like watching a bunch of fraternity brothers get together and
1:43:54
Speaker 1: enjoy themselves while they're training on fifty cows and just
1:43:57
Speaker 1: an impressive group of young men. And if they're representative
1:44:00
Speaker 1: the other Seal teams, these are Seal Teams two and three. Boy,
1:44:03
Speaker 1: we've we are in great hands when it comes to
1:44:06
Speaker 1: defending America's interest.
1:44:09
Speaker 5: Oh well, well, thanks for saying all that. And you
1:44:11
Speaker 5: know there's other ways to serve your country. You said
1:44:14
Speaker 5: you then serve, but you're still serving it in what
1:44:16
Speaker 5: you do. I believe, and you know there's other ways
1:44:20
Speaker 5: we can serve our country. And so as far as
1:44:23
Speaker 5: shooting the fifty cow and a bunch of team guys
1:44:26
Speaker 5: sitting together training and shooting a fifty cow, that those
1:44:29
Speaker 5: are some fun times. Yes, so I can you start
1:44:32
Speaker 5: them at their finals.
1:44:35
Speaker 1: And considering the rounds we were shooting were one hundred
1:44:37
Speaker 1: and fifty bucks apiece, you know I got some of
1:44:40
Speaker 1: my taxpayer dollars backed on. Anyhow, Over the Navy Seal Playbook,
1:44:47
Speaker 1: this what you have done is broken down and you're
1:44:50
Speaker 1: obviously here to talk about it. The principles of being
1:44:53
Speaker 1: a Navy Seal and what you apply as a Navy
1:44:56
Speaker 1: seal operating under extreme pressure, et cetera. And how we
1:44:59
Speaker 1: out here in the regular world can apply those principles.
1:45:02
Speaker 1: And I want to start with and this lets me
1:45:04
Speaker 1: pivot over. Is there a certain personality type? I mean,
1:45:09
Speaker 1: Navy seals seem to me to be the epitome of
1:45:11
Speaker 1: bad astery that there is a certain mindset that even
1:45:14
Speaker 1: wanting to become a Navy seal, that a lot of
1:45:16
Speaker 1: us just don't have. And I imagine it's the people
1:45:19
Speaker 1: who really don't have maybe that get go spirit, you know,
1:45:21
Speaker 1: the idea of overcoming challenges that are in front of
1:45:24
Speaker 1: a little perhaps hesitation to do it, or worry or concern.
1:45:27
Speaker 1: Maybe it's those personality types that you wrote this book for.
1:45:30
Speaker 5: Don your reaction, well, you know, as far as the
1:45:35
Speaker 5: type of person that it takes to become a seal,
1:45:40
Speaker 5: I've been asked that quite a few times, and I
1:45:42
Speaker 5: don't really have an answer for that, because when you
1:45:45
Speaker 5: get into the seal teams, you finish buds, and you
1:45:49
Speaker 5: get into any of the seal teams, you realize you're
1:45:53
Speaker 5: around a bunch of people with completely different backgrounds. You
1:45:56
Speaker 5: might have people who are bikers, or you might have
1:46:00
Speaker 5: like great athletes or scholars, or people whose hobby is religion,
1:46:05
Speaker 5: or you get a group of people come from all
1:46:08
Speaker 5: walks of life, but there's something deeper in them, and
1:46:12
Speaker 5: that deeper, that deeper emotion I think it is or
1:46:17
Speaker 5: that what they have inside of them gives them the
1:46:21
Speaker 5: ability to focus on something powerful, which God, country, family
1:46:28
Speaker 5: is how I grew up. But when you get into
1:46:31
Speaker 5: the seals, you know it's going to be tough. And
1:46:34
Speaker 5: all these people, everybody goes through buds. Who doesn't quit?
1:46:37
Speaker 5: I should say those who finish, they have the ability
1:46:40
Speaker 5: to focus on finishing and the mission objective, no matter
1:46:46
Speaker 5: where they came from, the mission objective is to finish Buds.
1:46:50
Speaker 5: There's going to be one hard evolution at a time,
1:46:53
Speaker 5: and all you have to do is think about getting
1:46:55
Speaker 5: through that evolution. It might be a four mile swim,
1:46:58
Speaker 5: it might be a ten miles off stand run. You
1:47:01
Speaker 5: finish that evolution, you don't even think about anything else.
1:47:04
Speaker 5: And what helped me so much, and I always give
1:47:07
Speaker 5: this advice is not to have a backup plan. Don't
1:47:10
Speaker 5: have any backup plan at all, because if you're laying
1:47:13
Speaker 5: there and you feel like this is torture.
1:47:14
Speaker 6: This is just so grueling.
1:47:16
Speaker 5: I can't take it anymore. I should have been a pilot,
1:47:19
Speaker 5: or I should have been an accountant or a doctor
1:47:21
Speaker 5: or something. Then it needs are to switch paths. But
1:47:24
Speaker 5: if you're so determined that buds is what you want
1:47:29
Speaker 5: and you are going to finish and you're going to
1:47:31
Speaker 5: become a seal, no backup plans. I think that's the
1:47:35
Speaker 5: best way to go at it. And that's what all
1:47:37
Speaker 5: these people have in common. They didn't quit and they
1:47:41
Speaker 5: knew this is all they wanted to do because they
1:47:44
Speaker 5: can focus on the mission of finishing training and then
1:47:47
Speaker 5: the end goal is to become a seal and go
1:47:50
Speaker 5: work for the you know, if it's got your family,
1:47:53
Speaker 5: that's what you're doing.
1:47:54
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I've never heard anybody say don't have a
1:47:56
Speaker 1: backup plan, although I personally have never had one. I
1:47:59
Speaker 1: kind of wait for tomorrow, hard to figure out what
1:48:00
Speaker 1: I'm going to do tomorrow. But you know, putting into
1:48:02
Speaker 1: practical terms, as a Navy seal, if you're in the
1:48:05
Speaker 1: foxhole where there are no atheists, you don't have a
1:48:08
Speaker 1: backup plan.
1:48:11
Speaker 5: That's right, And and you know I had the I
1:48:16
Speaker 5: was a triathlete when I was younger, and I used
1:48:20
Speaker 5: to race and train with the best trathletes in the
1:48:22
Speaker 5: world and the number one guy in the world. His
1:48:24
Speaker 5: name was Dave Scott and he became King of Kona.
1:48:28
Speaker 5: He was the number one trithlete.
1:48:29
Speaker 1: In the world.
1:48:29
Speaker 5: And I asked him before he won his first Iron Man.
1:48:33
Speaker 5: I said, Dave, how do you stay in such great shape?
1:48:36
Speaker 5: He said, well, the doctors disagree with me, but I
1:48:38
Speaker 5: don't take any days off. I work out every day
1:48:41
Speaker 5: of the year. So he told me that I was
1:48:44
Speaker 5: very young, I was very impressionable as already. This is
1:48:47
Speaker 5: way before I was a seal. I was thinking, that's
1:48:50
Speaker 5: what I'm going to do. That's going to help me
1:48:51
Speaker 5: become a seal. So I just worked out every day
1:48:55
Speaker 5: for over twenty years. I never took a day off.
1:48:57
Speaker 5: And but what's happened? Then I took that great advice
1:49:02
Speaker 5: Dave gave me, and I expanded on it, and then
1:49:06
Speaker 5: I started following this as a principle for my life.
1:49:08
Speaker 6: But what I love sharing with.
1:49:10
Speaker 5: People, especially young people, is if you want to be
1:49:13
Speaker 5: a seal, or if you want to climb mountains, or
1:49:15
Speaker 5: if you want to go to delta force. So you
1:49:17
Speaker 5: want to just do something tough, there's only four things
1:49:21
Speaker 5: you have to do every day. That's it, just four
1:49:23
Speaker 5: things like I worked out every day because Dave Scott
1:49:26
Speaker 5: suggested I should work out every day. I just change
1:49:29
Speaker 5: it to just do four things every day and you
1:49:32
Speaker 5: can become a Navy seal or whatever else you choose
1:49:35
Speaker 5: to do. And those four things are every day, do
1:49:39
Speaker 5: something that makes you stronger, you know, measure it, make
1:49:43
Speaker 5: sure you're getting stronger. That could be CrossFit, it could
1:49:47
Speaker 5: be going to the gym. It could be doing the
1:49:49
Speaker 5: workouts in your garage. It could be whatever it is,
1:49:52
Speaker 5: pete on the lawn. But every day, make sure you're
1:49:55
Speaker 5: getting stronger every day.
1:49:57
Speaker 1: So number two no no, no, no no, no, go ahead,
1:50:00
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm sorry, Enerjack, go ahead, and.
1:50:03
Speaker 5: Number two every day. And this is if you want
1:50:06
Speaker 5: to become a seal. Now, if you want to become
1:50:08
Speaker 5: something else, you just modify this somewhat. But if you
1:50:12
Speaker 5: want to become a seal, every day, do something make
1:50:14
Speaker 5: yourself faster. That could be wind sprints, it could be he'll,
1:50:18
Speaker 5: he'll work. It could be on the track, feed work
1:50:21
Speaker 5: in the pool. You know, doing five hundred meters, you know,
1:50:24
Speaker 5: faster than you did it the last time you did
1:50:26
Speaker 5: the five hundred meter swim or the two thousand meter swim.
1:50:29
Speaker 4: But just get faster.
1:50:31
Speaker 5: If you can do one hundred and twenty setups in
1:50:33
Speaker 5: three minutes, do it in two minutes and fifty seconds.
1:50:37
Speaker 5: But so number one, get stronger, Number two, get faster,
1:50:41
Speaker 5: And then I think more importantly, every day, do something
1:50:45
Speaker 5: to make yourself smarter. So if it is the teams
1:50:48
Speaker 5: you want to get into, look back at the history
1:50:50
Speaker 5: of World War Two, and look what we've done in
1:50:53
Speaker 5: the teams in Vietnam and in all the wars since,
1:50:57
Speaker 5: and what's going on now in the ninety plus countries
1:51:00
Speaker 5: the teams are operating in now, and learn to shoot
1:51:03
Speaker 5: and learn about weapons, and learn to go take a
1:51:05
Speaker 5: skydiving course and a scooba course, and just get smarter
1:51:09
Speaker 5: every day. So at the end of the day when
1:51:11
Speaker 5: you go to bed, you know I've become stronger, I'm faster,
1:51:15
Speaker 5: and I'm smarter than I was yesterday. And then number four,
1:51:18
Speaker 5: I think is the most important thing is every day
1:51:22
Speaker 5: do something good for somebody. And that could be your mother,
1:51:26
Speaker 5: it can be your wife, it could be the neighbor
1:51:28
Speaker 5: next door struggling to carry out the garbage. But just
1:51:32
Speaker 5: do something good for somebody every day, because by the
1:51:36
Speaker 5: end of it, if I'm talking to a twelve or
1:51:39
Speaker 5: a fifteen year old and they take this advice, which
1:51:41
Speaker 5: I wish I did at that age, they might just
1:51:45
Speaker 5: wind up at selection or at BUDS, maybe being the
1:51:49
Speaker 5: strongest and the fastest, the one who knows more about
1:51:52
Speaker 5: what's going on, what they're getting into, and the one
1:51:55
Speaker 5: everyone wants on the team because they're such a good
1:51:57
Speaker 5: teammate and a team player. So Dave Scott, that triathlete,
1:52:02
Speaker 5: when he gave me that piece of advice, that shaped
1:52:05
Speaker 5: my whole life, and he didn't even know it. I
1:52:07
Speaker 5: was just a triathlete there. I was trying to do
1:52:10
Speaker 5: a thousand competitions to prepare myself for Buds and the
1:52:13
Speaker 5: Iron Man to some of the competitions I was doing,
1:52:16
Speaker 5: and he gave me that as advice to be a
1:52:18
Speaker 5: great triathlete. But now I've just added a couple of
1:52:21
Speaker 5: components to it for people who want to become seals.
1:52:24
Speaker 1: Okay, now pivoting over, because this is great life advice
1:52:27
Speaker 1: generally speaking, but pivoting over from those who might want
1:52:30
Speaker 1: to become seals and applying the principles that you learn
1:52:32
Speaker 1: to become a seal to Let's say, I know there's
1:52:36
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of anxiety and stress out there. How
1:52:40
Speaker 1: does one and this involves I guess a good sizable
1:52:43
Speaker 1: amount of discipline on the part of people out there
1:52:46
Speaker 1: trying to deal with life day in and day out.
1:52:48
Speaker 1: They need to have this cognitive mental discipline. They need
1:52:50
Speaker 1: to have a daily structure, as I understand from what
1:52:52
Speaker 1: you write, have consistent habits. But in terms of strengthening
1:52:56
Speaker 1: mental toughness in this crazy world we live, how do
1:52:59
Speaker 1: you train people to deal with moments of uncertainty and stress.
1:53:04
Speaker 5: M Well, you know, you get inoculated to stress and
1:53:11
Speaker 5: a lot of shooting and a lot of explosions and
1:53:15
Speaker 5: a lot of chaos is going on all around you
1:53:19
Speaker 5: in training. And if you tuck someone off the street
1:53:22
Speaker 5: and you put them in one day training, they could
1:53:25
Speaker 5: have a heart attack, you know, because it's so chaotic.
1:53:28
Speaker 5: But this becomes a daily ritual. This is just what
1:53:32
Speaker 5: happens every day in life. And and we have this
1:53:37
Speaker 5: thing where most all the seals, I'd have to say,
1:53:41
Speaker 5: every seal I know when something terrible has happened, a
1:53:45
Speaker 5: shooting or a helicopter crash or something terrible has happened,
1:53:52
Speaker 5: have the ability to stay calm. For instance, there I
1:53:57
Speaker 5: was at a I was involved, and there was a
1:54:00
Speaker 5: helicopter crash, and I don't want to get too graphic,
1:54:03
Speaker 5: but one of the young rangers was decapitated by the
1:54:07
Speaker 5: rear rotor and I was right there, and I was
1:54:12
Speaker 5: there helping them out, and while helping out the others
1:54:15
Speaker 5: who were part of the crash, and of course the
1:54:17
Speaker 5: one who was decapitated died, but the others didn't die.
1:54:21
Speaker 5: And it was just taking care of those guys, saying
1:54:25
Speaker 5: calm under pressure, getting these guys on the helo. And
1:54:30
Speaker 5: the best situation, the best example I have ever seen,
1:54:34
Speaker 5: is when our three star general came up. My mouth
1:54:37
Speaker 5: was filled with blood from doing mouth to mouth on
1:54:40
Speaker 5: mouth to crike on one of the guys, and I
1:54:43
Speaker 5: was covered with blood. There were senators and congressmen there,
1:54:46
Speaker 5: and this was a demonstration at Fort Bragg, and this
1:54:50
Speaker 5: three star general was in charge of everything. This helicopter crash,
1:54:54
Speaker 5: and there was a decapitated soldier on the ground, and
1:54:57
Speaker 5: then I was covered with blood helping these people, and
1:54:59
Speaker 5: I was, I was taking care of all the medical emergencies.
1:55:03
Speaker 5: And he came up to me and he said, why
1:55:06
Speaker 5: didn't you go rinse off your face in your mouth?
1:55:08
Speaker 5: The show must go on, meaning what you have to
1:55:11
Speaker 5: do now is the shooting demonstration and climbing demonstration. He
1:55:15
Speaker 5: was so calm under pressure. And whenever I think of
1:55:19
Speaker 5: times under pressure, I was captured at one time and
1:55:22
Speaker 5: I felt calm. I knew I wasn't going to be killed.
1:55:26
Speaker 5: I knew these guys weren't going to kill us. I
1:55:29
Speaker 5: wasn't right in knowing that, but that's what I believed.
1:55:33
Speaker 5: And you just know you're going to come out victorious.
1:55:36
Speaker 5: And when things go wrong all around you and you
1:55:40
Speaker 5: stay basically because your training from day one has built
1:55:46
Speaker 5: you built a foundation around you, so you're inoculator. Things happen, explosions,
1:55:54
Speaker 5: gun shoots, you know, now somebody wounded.
1:55:57
Speaker 6: Things get bigger and bigger and bigger.
1:56:00
Speaker 5: But you're trained to react and stay calm because when
1:56:04
Speaker 5: you are, you can react with one hundred percent of
1:56:08
Speaker 5: your faculties.
1:56:09
Speaker 2: And that you know if you're not calm.
1:56:11
Speaker 5: And you're going fastic and you lose control yourself. You
1:56:15
Speaker 5: don't have one hundred percent to react, and that's when
1:56:18
Speaker 5: you need one hundred percent of yourself to react to
1:56:20
Speaker 5: keep things in control, save lives and.
1:56:23
Speaker 1: As a seal, if you break down, we know what
1:56:25
Speaker 1: failure might mean, and in that circumstance, and of course
1:56:27
Speaker 1: in our day to day lives, failure can mean a
1:56:30
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1:56:31
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1:56:34
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Speaker 1: I cannot thank you enough for spending time with my
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Speaker 1: these wonderful books you write. We'll looking forward to the
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1:57:04
Speaker 1: this time we get to hear from Jack Winsor, and
1:57:06
Speaker 1: I recommend you to check out his website, The Ohio
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Speaker 1: Pressnetwork dot com. Doing a great job reporting on matters
1:57:12
Speaker 1: going on in Ohio and always interesting and insightful reporting.
1:57:14
Speaker 1: It is Jack Winsor. Welcome back to the Morning show.
1:57:16
Speaker 1: It's always great hearing from you, Brian.
1:57:19
Speaker 2: It's an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.
1:57:20
Speaker 2: Good to see you in Joe this morning.
1:57:22
Speaker 1: I was gonna say hearing from you, but I also
1:57:24
Speaker 1: get the benefit of seeing you. We get the zoom link,
1:57:26
Speaker 1: which it makes things a lot easier. You're not in studio,
1:57:29
Speaker 1: but you're the next closest thing to being in studio,
1:57:31
Speaker 1: all right, right there at the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com.
1:57:34
Speaker 1: You got the report here. It's a couple of days old,
1:57:36
Speaker 1: but the poll that you reported on showing it's a
1:57:38
Speaker 1: neck and neck race for governor. In other words, vive
1:57:42
Speaker 1: Ramaswami and Amy Acton there's no space between him in polling.
1:57:46
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I find that really really hard to believe,
1:57:50
Speaker 1: and I've got some theories on that. But Amy lockdown acting,
1:57:54
Speaker 1: I mean, do people have that short of memory?
1:57:57
Speaker 4: You know?
1:57:58
Speaker 2: It is quite a pickle we find ourselves in Look,
1:58:01
Speaker 2: we'll talk about how this will probably shift as we're
1:58:05
Speaker 2: seven months out, as we get closer to election day,
1:58:08
Speaker 2: but the lead is within the margin of error. It's
1:58:11
Speaker 2: about forty six to forty five. And I think what's
1:58:14
Speaker 2: really important, Brian, when you dive into the cross tabs
1:58:18
Speaker 2: and see that she actually curries favor obviously with Democrats,
1:58:24
Speaker 2: but not as much with Democrats as Vivek does with Republicans,
1:58:28
Speaker 2: and she curries more favor with Independence, and independence in
1:58:32
Speaker 2: a close election will decide the election. But what really
1:58:35
Speaker 2: strengthens her position currently is that more people trust her
1:58:39
Speaker 2: to bring down health care costs, and they trust her
1:58:43
Speaker 2: with health care. But when you get to the matters
1:58:46
Speaker 2: that I think are going to drive the election, such
1:58:49
Speaker 2: as the economy, the vaik Ramaswami has about a six
1:58:52
Speaker 2: to six and a half point lead where that is concerned.
1:58:54
Speaker 2: More people trust him with the economy here in the
1:58:57
Speaker 2: Buckeye State than Acting, and they trust him more with
1:59:01
Speaker 2: respect to the border and immigration.
1:59:03
Speaker 1: Well, upon what do people conclude that Amy acting is
1:59:08
Speaker 1: better on healthcare? I mean, healthcare is probably more appropriately
1:59:13
Speaker 1: looked at as a federal problem, an entire country level problem.
1:59:18
Speaker 1: And what the hell, can Amy Actin do to bring
1:59:19
Speaker 1: down the cost of healthcare in the state of Ohio
1:59:22
Speaker 1: by itself? And what specific credibility does she have or
1:59:25
Speaker 1: theories or platform proposals does she have to bring that
1:59:28
Speaker 1: about or is it just something that people make up
1:59:31
Speaker 1: in their head because it's doctor Amy Actin.
1:59:34
Speaker 2: I think that's it.
1:59:35
Speaker 1: The matter that's dumb.
1:59:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is dumb. Let's wear a lab coat. Let's
1:59:40
Speaker 2: put a doctor in front of our name. Not gonna Fauci.
1:59:42
Speaker 1: Anybody remember doctor Fauci?
1:59:43
Speaker 7: Right?
1:59:44
Speaker 1: Yeah he delivered, didn't we Uh.
1:59:45
Speaker 2: Huh, masks and get your boost a shot.
1:59:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, I just pulled that whole cloth
1:59:51
Speaker 1: out of my sphincter. Yeah, ten feet met nothing. I
1:59:53
Speaker 1: just randomly grab that number or six feet or whatever.
1:59:57
Speaker 1: Uh uh.
1:59:58
Speaker 2: So you know, Amy's gonna talk a lot about reducing
2:00:00
Speaker 2: health care costs for families and in education, economy and
2:00:06
Speaker 2: jobs and anti corruption. I just for me, I think
2:00:11
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the election, people are gonna
2:00:13
Speaker 2: remember Brian. I mean a couple of things I can
2:00:16
Speaker 2: pull from the top of my head. Remember she came
2:00:18
Speaker 2: out with the wrong curve altogether, That University of Washington
2:00:21
Speaker 2: curve that showed everybody was going to die, didn't matter
2:00:24
Speaker 2: if you were aged, didn't matter if you were co morbid,
2:00:27
Speaker 2: and certainly overstated deaths for people who were healthy and
2:00:31
Speaker 2: not at greater risk, and fear mongered every day. If
2:00:34
Speaker 2: you remember, she used phrases like category five hurricane and
2:00:39
Speaker 2: horrors and hell and shut down schools. And I think
2:00:44
Speaker 2: the other thing that really pissed people off she chose
2:00:47
Speaker 2: winners and losers among businesses, and the choices were extremely arbitrary.
2:00:51
Speaker 2: Big box stores. You could go get a jewelry piece
2:00:54
Speaker 2: of jewelry at a big box store, but Jane and
2:00:57
Speaker 2: Jim's jewelry store in downtown Ashland was close because Amy
2:01:00
Speaker 2: acting said so canceled a primary election. And frankly, I
2:01:05
Speaker 2: think she really tried to mitigate things with the wrecking
2:01:08
Speaker 2: ball instead of instead of a scalpel, and we had it.
2:01:11
Speaker 2: And here's the lie that we have to remember. People said, well,
2:01:14
Speaker 2: we didn't know later on, or we didn't know early on.
2:01:17
Speaker 2: What we knew later on, bunk. We knew when the
2:01:19
Speaker 2: numbers came out from overseas that it was the aged
2:01:22
Speaker 2: and it was the people with comorbiditness for the greatest
2:01:25
Speaker 2: risk YEP, all right, well, no, I se she She
2:01:29
Speaker 2: just operated with the wrecking ball, guilted and shamed people,
2:01:33
Speaker 2: and she and Governor Dwine did a hell of a
2:01:35
Speaker 2: job of creating two groups of people, the Maskers and
2:01:39
Speaker 2: the anti maskers, the Baxers and the anti vaxers. And
2:01:42
Speaker 2: the press ran with that. And if you were not
2:01:44
Speaker 2: on team Dwine and Acting, they shamed you and acted
2:01:46
Speaker 2: like you were stupid. As it turns out, the people
2:01:49
Speaker 2: who didn't believe, but Amy Acting believed were right. So
2:01:52
Speaker 2: I think people will remember that as we get closer
2:01:53
Speaker 2: to the election.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be the vast majority of my listening audience.
2:01:56
Speaker 1: So there you have it. I don't think they're going
2:01:58
Speaker 1: to have short memories when it comes to Amy Act
2:02:00
Speaker 1: and is she the one that came up with You
2:02:03
Speaker 1: can stay in the bar, but you're not allowed to
2:02:04
Speaker 1: drink after ten. That's been my favorite illustration of just
2:02:07
Speaker 1: epic stupidity. On its face, it just sounds dumb, Yes.
2:02:11
Speaker 2: Because COVID comes out after ten. It's like a bad
2:02:14
Speaker 2: guy just comes out after ten.
2:02:15
Speaker 1: No, but only if you're drinking, jack, but only if
2:02:18
Speaker 1: you're drinking Only.
2:02:19
Speaker 2: If you're drinking, and I'm a little bit on the
2:02:21
Speaker 2: shorter side. My argument used to be, and people would
2:02:23
Speaker 2: get mad because I always thought masks for a joke.
2:02:25
Speaker 2: I talked to an industrial hygienis he told me masks
2:02:28
Speaker 2: for a joke. I was short, and I would I
2:02:29
Speaker 2: would just say if somebody approached me and say, hey,
2:02:31
Speaker 2: I don't have to wear a mask, because me standing
2:02:33
Speaker 2: up is like you sitting down, and when you sit
2:02:35
Speaker 2: down you can take your mask off, so I don't
2:02:37
Speaker 2: need a mask. I mean, the rules were arbitrary, they
2:02:39
Speaker 2: were insane, and I think a lot of people as
2:02:42
Speaker 2: it went on saw through it, and I think they're
2:02:43
Speaker 2: gonna remember it well.
2:02:44
Speaker 1: I'd like to think so. And of course, once the
2:02:46
Speaker 1: advertising campaigns kick in and earnest this, of course will
2:02:48
Speaker 1: be after the primary, you're gonna get Ramaswami's full on assault,
2:02:52
Speaker 1: reminding everyone of that who have short memories, and of course,
2:02:54
Speaker 1: contrasting where she is and her actual ability to do anything, like, gee,
2:02:59
Speaker 1: what do you think Amy Act can actually do to
2:03:00
Speaker 1: bring down the cost of health care? She's going to
2:03:03
Speaker 1: lay hands or something. And finally, you said, in connection
2:03:06
Speaker 1: with education, I don't know where she is, but I'm
2:03:09
Speaker 1: a huge fan of school choice, and I think most
2:03:11
Speaker 1: of my listening audiences it's a great opportunity for us
2:03:14
Speaker 1: to make our own choices. Knew, who knows better than
2:03:16
Speaker 1: a mom or dad or family members about the best
2:03:19
Speaker 1: place for any child to be or at least to
2:03:20
Speaker 1: have options when you know your public school options sucks
2:03:23
Speaker 1: based upon test scores alone. Where is she relative to
2:03:27
Speaker 1: the teachers' unions and her position on some sort of
2:03:29
Speaker 1: choice for us.
2:03:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm going to go back and I'm going
2:03:33
Speaker 2: to punch on one topic and then flip forward to that.
2:03:35
Speaker 2: We cannot forget Ohio was among the first states to
2:03:38
Speaker 2: close all schools statewide. So if Amy Acton cared about schools,
2:03:42
Speaker 2: she could have showed us that in twenty twenty excellent,
2:03:45
Speaker 2: and they prolonged the remote hybrid learning, which contributed to
2:03:49
Speaker 2: documented learning loss, mental health crisis among youth, and certainly
2:03:54
Speaker 2: widened achievement gaps, particularly in poorer districts. So we can
2:03:57
Speaker 2: never ever forget about that. So that's number one, and
2:04:00
Speaker 2: then number two, what Amy Acting believes in, which is
2:04:02
Speaker 2: exactly what teacher unions believe in. They want students locked
2:04:06
Speaker 2: into a zip code or a district, And when you
2:04:09
Speaker 2: widen learning gaps, when you create environments where students are
2:04:12
Speaker 2: not able to uptake education the way that they can
2:04:15
Speaker 2: in other schools, why do you want to lock them
2:04:17
Speaker 2: into those districts? And that's the great thing about school choice.
2:04:20
Speaker 2: Some students have particular supports that they need that certain
2:04:24
Speaker 2: districts don't provide. As a parent, why would I not
2:04:26
Speaker 2: want my kid to go to a school where he
2:04:28
Speaker 2: or she can get the proper support? And why do
2:04:30
Speaker 2: I want my kid locked into a zip code? And
2:04:32
Speaker 2: I'm going to go here East Cleveland? Why would I
2:04:35
Speaker 2: want my kid locked into a zip code at East
2:04:37
Speaker 2: Cleveland or Columbus City schools? If they can go get
2:04:40
Speaker 2: a better education somewhere else, why would you not be
2:04:42
Speaker 2: in support of that.
2:04:44
Speaker 1: Listen, we've got since any classical academy here, and they
2:04:46
Speaker 1: got people lined up for a mile and a half
2:04:49
Speaker 1: to try to get into that place, and they do
2:04:50
Speaker 1: not have a jurisdictional limitation. You can come from miles
2:04:54
Speaker 1: and miles away if you can make that trip and
2:04:56
Speaker 1: work things out with your neighbors, maybe ride share, otherwise,
2:04:58
Speaker 1: come up with a transportation of coommodations. You're in the
2:05:01
Speaker 1: best possible hands, and who wouldn't want that for their child?
2:05:04
Speaker 1: So remember that we'll fast forward real quick before part
2:05:07
Speaker 1: of a company on that particular topic will bring it
2:05:09
Speaker 1: back to talk about what the hell is House Bill
2:05:11
Speaker 1: three forty seven. I noticed viv Ramaswam. He's been running
2:05:15
Speaker 1: a lot of ads lately, television ads. Is this because
2:05:18
Speaker 1: of the primary? Is he concerned that this putsch guy's
2:05:23
Speaker 1: got a chance? He had a melt down on my show,
2:05:25
Speaker 1: and I've kind of not been a fan of the
2:05:26
Speaker 1: guy since then. But I know I have been told
2:05:30
Speaker 1: time and time again people in the know and people
2:05:32
Speaker 1: heard direct comments to the effect that they're not voting
2:05:35
Speaker 1: for VV. Ramaswami because brown Hindu man and weird name.
2:05:40
Speaker 1: I mean, I am disgusted that anyone would come to
2:05:44
Speaker 1: that conclusion because it sounds horrifically racist and glad we
2:05:47
Speaker 1: don't live in a theocracy. And I know mister Ramaswami
2:05:50
Speaker 1: can't make me worship any particular religion, But is that
2:05:53
Speaker 1: a real factor, Jack Windsor from what you've been hearing.
2:05:57
Speaker 2: Republicans are master marksmen in the circular fire squad. I'll
2:06:00
Speaker 2: keep it at that. And in a primary election, you're
2:06:03
Speaker 2: going to find a chink in anyone's armor. And I
2:06:05
Speaker 2: think Casey Push appeals to certain people. And I'm going
2:06:09
Speaker 2: to say certain people like the Joe Blistone audience, people
2:06:12
Speaker 2: who want an outsider, people who want somebody who says, Hey,
2:06:15
Speaker 2: I'm not a politician, I'm an auto mechanic, or I'm
2:06:18
Speaker 2: a farmer. Listen. I've had Casey on my show twice.
2:06:22
Speaker 2: I've given him a fair opportunity. I think that he
2:06:25
Speaker 2: really appeals to people who want somebody from the outside.
2:06:27
Speaker 2: But I don't think I think he's quasimoto. I think
2:06:30
Speaker 2: he's a guy who just says I want something done differently.
2:06:34
Speaker 2: And outside of that, I've not seen him form a
2:06:36
Speaker 2: very cohesive, strong foundation upon which he could run and
2:06:39
Speaker 2: win a primary election.
2:06:41
Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll pause, bring Jack Windsor back to talk
2:06:43
Speaker 1: about House Bill three forty seven. We'll also be talking
2:06:46
Speaker 1: a little bit later about club is trying to act
2:06:48
Speaker 1: what is described on my sheet here as a side
2:06:51
Speaker 1: hustle tax more with Jack Hey forty one. If vid
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Speaker 1: about KERCD talk station, you can find Jack Winsor online
2:06:57
Speaker 1: if you o high pressnetwork dot com. Great reporting there,
2:07:01
Speaker 1: hell says the Windsor Report. You can find the Windsor Report.
2:07:04
Speaker 1: He's the host of that on Zoom. And he also
2:07:06
Speaker 1: is following something we have to learn about Ohio House
2:07:08
Speaker 1: Bill three forty seven. Jack, where is that?
2:07:12
Speaker 3: Well?
2:07:12
Speaker 1: First off, what is this about? And where is it
2:07:13
Speaker 1: in process?
2:07:15
Speaker 3: Yeah?
2:07:15
Speaker 2: I hope that I'm giving you the right one here.
2:07:17
Speaker 2: This would be the bill that would require a twenty
2:07:19
Speaker 2: four hour waiting period for abortions. Is that the right
2:07:22
Speaker 2: one that we're talking about?
2:07:23
Speaker 1: I do believe it is.
2:07:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, perfect, perfect. So I put out a quick
2:07:27
Speaker 2: survey I think that's always important for me, the people
2:07:30
Speaker 2: who follow me on social media, and the question was
2:07:33
Speaker 2: do you support a twenty four hour waiting period for
2:07:36
Speaker 2: an abortion? And eighty five point seven percent do, eight
2:07:41
Speaker 2: point two percent don't, and then the rest are filtered
2:07:44
Speaker 2: in between unsure and other. And so what this bill
2:07:47
Speaker 2: does is it promotes It says that it promotes informed
2:07:51
Speaker 2: consent and reflection. So if somebody wants an abortion, they
2:07:55
Speaker 2: must wait twenty four hours. The idea is to build sponsors.
2:08:01
Speaker 2: This will reduce regret. Proponents claim the mandatory pause allows
2:08:05
Speaker 2: individuals to think through long term implications, possibly leading some
2:08:09
Speaker 2: to choose continuation of pregnancy or other options after reflection,
2:08:14
Speaker 2: and they say that it aligns with other medical procedures.
2:08:17
Speaker 2: So there are elective cosmetic surgeries, for example, sterilization or
2:08:22
Speaker 2: certain cancer treatments that require you to wait twenty four hours.
2:08:26
Speaker 2: And the important part I think too, that they'll talk
2:08:30
Speaker 2: more about the proponents that is, is that it protects
2:08:33
Speaker 2: against coercion and impulsivity. There are women, unfortunately, who might
2:08:38
Speaker 2: be trafficked and they're under pressure, or there are women
2:08:42
Speaker 2: who are in abusive relationships and the father of the
2:08:45
Speaker 2: child says, look, you're going to get that abortion. And
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Speaker 2: the belief is this twenty four hour waiting period might
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Speaker 2: save some lives, and it might help women who are
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Speaker 2: being coerced or doing it impulsively from not doing it.
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Speaker 2: Those are the pro sides of the build and certainly
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Speaker 2: tractors have a laundry list of things like it would
2:09:03
Speaker 2: create unnecessary barriers for timely care, that it would disproportionately
2:09:08
Speaker 2: impact vulnerable groups, low income individuals, for example, that it
2:09:12
Speaker 2: conflicts with Ohio's constitutional reproductive rights amendment. That's what the
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Speaker 2: ACLU is arguing, and that there's little evidence of medical
2:09:19
Speaker 2: benefit and that increases cost and logistical challenges, saying, hey,
2:09:25
Speaker 2: this mom might have to take off work, and so
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Speaker 2: she goes to one appointment, can't get the abortion, will
2:09:30
Speaker 2: have to take off work again. It will be a
2:09:33
Speaker 2: hotly contested and debated bill. But as I kind of
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Speaker 2: put my or finger in the air, it looks like
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of support for a twenty four hour
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Speaker 2: waiting period as it sits right.
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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, the twenty four hour waiting period is to
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Speaker 1: prevent women from making hasty decisions that will result in
2:09:46
Speaker 1: perhaps regret over terminating a life. Right, fair enough, aren't
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Speaker 1: the left wingers who are all about abortion and abortion
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Speaker 1: on demand and abortion at like eight and a half
2:09:55
Speaker 1: point nine months or whatever pregnancy. They're probably the same
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Speaker 1: folks that would demand a way waiting period for the
2:10:00
Speaker 1: purchase of firearms, because quite often people will hurry up
2:10:03
Speaker 1: and run out and get a firearm because they want
2:10:05
Speaker 1: to kill themselves. So we can prevent a suicide from
2:10:08
Speaker 1: happening or maybe a murder by preventing someone from requiring
2:10:12
Speaker 1: a handgun. A's bite to the Second Amendment on the
2:10:13
Speaker 1: day they want to buy one, you have to wait.
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Speaker 1: There's a cooling off period. That's for the purpose of
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Speaker 1: saving lives, right, Jack, it is.
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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you're going down this road because this
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Speaker 2: is a topic that I get passionate about. I'm a
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Speaker 2: firm believer in pro life, and I don't think the
2:10:32
Speaker 2: thing that gets talked about as much as it should
2:10:35
Speaker 2: is getting talked about here, and that is the mental
2:10:37
Speaker 2: health impact on women of killing a child in her fetus.
2:10:42
Speaker 2: That is a significant issue, and it is a weighty issue,
2:10:45
Speaker 2: and it's an issue that I've talked to women who
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Speaker 2: have aboarded children who come back and say, you know,
2:10:49
Speaker 2: I really underestimated how this would impact me later on
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Speaker 2: in life. That's number one. And here's the other irony, Brian,
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Speaker 2: if we're going to just talk very candidly about it,
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Speaker 2: the same group of people people who call a pregnancy
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Speaker 2: a clump of cells, are now up in arms because
2:11:03
Speaker 2: we want to wait twenty four hours to eliminate a
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Speaker 2: clump of sales.
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Speaker 3: Why is that?
2:11:06
Speaker 2: Because they know it's not a clump of sales, they
2:11:08
Speaker 2: know it's a human life.
2:11:09
Speaker 1: Good point in for whatever reason, the a gender transition
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Speaker 1: surgery immediately popped into mind about people living with regret
2:11:15
Speaker 1: for making that knee jerk reaction at the behest of
2:11:17
Speaker 1: some crazy doctors out there. Let's pause. We'll bring back
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Speaker 1: on that final editorial comment, Jack Windsor to talk about
2:11:23
Speaker 1: the side hustle tax more with the Ohio Press Networks
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Speaker 1: Jag Windsor after these brief words, fifty five KRC Thanks
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Speaker 1: for the Windsor report keeping tabs on what's going on
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Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio, including what is the side
2:11:57
Speaker 1: hustle tax, Jack Windsor, did you call it that or
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Speaker 1: they actually saying it out loud?
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Speaker 2: I think they're saying it out loud. I actually had
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Speaker 2: the co sponsor of the bill on my show yesterday
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Speaker 2: and my producer said, is this the side hustle tax?
2:12:09
Speaker 2: So I think that's what they're calling it rightfully. So
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Speaker 2: it's Ohio House built one sixty one and what it
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Speaker 2: would do is it would add a sales and lodging
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Speaker 2: occupancy tax to people who put their homes on Airbnb
2:12:23
Speaker 2: or vrbo. Those are the apps, by the way, that
2:12:25
Speaker 2: allow you to use your home or your property for
2:12:28
Speaker 2: what are known as short term rentals. And so what
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Speaker 2: it is, in my opinion out of the gate is
2:12:34
Speaker 2: it's a cash grab by the state government trying to
2:12:37
Speaker 2: give municipalities, local governments the authority to grab some more
2:12:41
Speaker 2: money in the name of sales and lodging occupancy taxes.
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Speaker 2: But my initial heartburn on it, Brian was who's going
2:12:50
Speaker 2: to pay the tax, how much is the tax going
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Speaker 2: to cost, and what is the unintended consequence of the tax.
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Speaker 2: So State Representative Adam Bird came on my show talked
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Speaker 2: through it a little bit. I've got some of the details.
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Speaker 2: If you want me to unpack them.
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Speaker 1: I do because I'm glad you I might. The first
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Speaker 1: thing I wrote downhen you mentioned it, I said, interference
2:13:08
Speaker 1: with property rights. Now, I am not a huge fan
2:13:11
Speaker 1: of airbnb rentals. I sure as hell don't want mine
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Speaker 1: one next door to me with all the different people
2:13:16
Speaker 1: coming in and out, And there's certain restrictions that can
2:13:18
Speaker 1: be put in place there homeowners restrictions and homeowners but
2:13:21
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you get a vote on that, maybe
2:13:23
Speaker 1: you can have an argument with your homeowners association about
2:13:25
Speaker 1: whether you want one of these things in place. But
2:13:27
Speaker 1: I don't like the rentals, but I do believe in
2:13:30
Speaker 1: the rights of property owners to do with their property
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Speaker 1: what they want. So what is I guess break it
2:13:36
Speaker 1: down for us? I guess I'm curious to know what's
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Speaker 1: the proposed tax, what's the percentage of the rental fee
2:13:41
Speaker 1: or obviously I think the renter's got to be paying
2:13:44
Speaker 1: it like hotel taxes.
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Speaker 2: But where are we That was my hope, that was
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Speaker 2: my guest. When I asked Bird yesterday what the range was,
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Speaker 2: he said he didn't have the numbers in front of him.
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Speaker 2: So I went and looked at places like Florida and Tennessee,
2:13:57
Speaker 2: which are two states that he mentioned. So I would
2:14:00
Speaker 2: we're probably going to be between ten to fifteen percent,
2:14:04
Speaker 2: and that tax would be paid by the consumer. So
2:14:08
Speaker 2: if I, you know, if you had an airbnb, Brian,
2:14:11
Speaker 2: and I paid you for your Airbnb, I would pay
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Speaker 2: that tax. And so that helps from because I'm looking
2:14:18
Speaker 2: at it as you are, as a property owner. If
2:14:20
Speaker 2: I want to use my home for an Airbnb, I'm
2:14:23
Speaker 2: first I'm going to be responsible, because that's who I am.
2:14:25
Speaker 2: And two, I don't want to pay the damn tax.
2:14:28
Speaker 2: And so the party that pays the tax would be
2:14:30
Speaker 2: the consumer. And the way that Bird pitched it is, Look,
2:14:33
Speaker 2: these are the tourists, these are the people who are
2:14:35
Speaker 2: coming in. I get it. In New Richmond where he is,
2:14:38
Speaker 2: He's down there on the river. He says, this is
2:14:41
Speaker 2: an opportunity for us to bring in some revenue because
2:14:43
Speaker 2: we don't have hotels and motels that kind of thing
2:14:46
Speaker 2: in large number. Okay, I get that. Here's my concern
2:14:51
Speaker 2: what does this do to Airbnb and vrbo and most importantly,
2:14:54
Speaker 2: what does this do to a homeowner? Because I know
2:14:56
Speaker 2: a lot of people who have homes and they use
2:14:59
Speaker 2: those homes occasionally, not all the time. Right, here's the
2:15:02
Speaker 2: bad here's the bad news. There is a high price
2:15:07
Speaker 2: elasticity for demand. So every one percent effective price increase
2:15:13
Speaker 2: in tax leads to two dollars or to a two
2:15:16
Speaker 2: percent to two point sixty five percent in fewer bookings.
2:15:19
Speaker 2: So in Boston in twenty twenty, they looked at this
2:15:24
Speaker 2: type of tax and it caused about a fourteen point
2:15:26
Speaker 2: nine to five percent and see tax at twenty five
2:15:31
Speaker 2: percent drop. Yep, that's exactly right. Well, Chicago's same thing.
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Speaker 1: Is maybe that's the intended goal. They want to make
2:15:37
Speaker 1: it a new since so fewer people rent airbnbs. I mean,
2:15:39
Speaker 1: we'd be honest, because let's face it, Uh, last time
2:15:42
Speaker 1: I checked, the airbnb rental fee that the owner is
2:15:45
Speaker 1: charging is going to be income reportable income, which means
2:15:50
Speaker 1: it's going to be taxed under the income tax bracket
2:15:52
Speaker 1: of the owners. So they're still going to get taxes
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Speaker 1: out of it.
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Speaker 2: Right, That's exactly right. There's income tax, there's property tax.
2:16:00
Speaker 2: And the people who are going to lose. The people
2:16:02
Speaker 2: who are gonna lose here are the casual individual hosts.
2:16:05
Speaker 2: People who are doing this professionally and have multi properties.
2:16:08
Speaker 2: They're not going to be hurt as much. It's going
2:16:10
Speaker 2: to be the smaller mom and pops who have, like
2:16:12
Speaker 2: I said, that one home and they're doing this is
2:16:15
Speaker 2: maybe make a few extra hundred dollars a month. Those
2:16:17
Speaker 2: are the people who are going to lose the most
2:16:19
Speaker 2: on this.
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Speaker 1: Brian, all right, so is this a foregone conclusion or
2:16:22
Speaker 1: is it still in the discussion phase.
2:16:25
Speaker 2: It's still in the discussion phase. And I'm a hard no.
2:16:27
Speaker 1: I'm a hard no on this.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: You convinced me of that already, Jack winsor God bless
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