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What Makes A Good Tarik Skubal Trade? · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, presented by
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  Speaker 1: Fox One, part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm Kieren
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  Speaker 1: sectly with me as always as a man who is
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  Speaker 1: king of his castle, no doubt he is.
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  Speaker 2: Cody Stavenhagen.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, Hey, I'm doing all right.
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  Speaker 4: We're a full week plus into the off season here,
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  Speaker 4: still a little bit of a weird feeling, still trying
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  Speaker 4: to get my bearings, and still plenty of news coming
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  Speaker 4: out and stuff already to discuss, so we can jump
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  Speaker 4: right into it.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk a lot about Turk Scoople today.
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  Speaker 4: We got a little bit of coaching news, we got
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  Speaker 4: some other random ideas to pat around.
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  Speaker 3: What do you got, Kieran?
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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you know you talk about how
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  Speaker 1: like you know, week plus or whatever into the off season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching the playoffs right now, which you can do
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  Speaker 1: via Fox One if you sign up, and I'm like, God,
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's gonna tak you advance that you see Julio Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: just like not feel the ball off the bounce in
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  Speaker 1: the outfield and it's like, ah Man couldn't have swore
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  Speaker 1: as miss fielding. A couple of balls like that couldn't
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  Speaker 1: happened last week. These guys were impeccable. But but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that is postseason baseball. We are recording this before Game seven,
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  Speaker 1: so we do not know what the World Series matchup
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  Speaker 1: will be. But it has been a really fun alcs
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  Speaker 1: and and I've enjoyed watching it despite despite maybe some
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  Speaker 1: ill feelings about how the Tiger season ended. But let
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  Speaker 1: let's start with the beginning of the offseason, which is
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  Speaker 1: really just Scooble and we recorded last week. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: had bad timing, Cody, we recorded last week and not
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  Speaker 1: like what an hour ninety minutes John Hayman like drops
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  Speaker 1: the proverbial like news bomb on a Thursday night about
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  Speaker 1: the Tiger. Well, that's it got the attention. It got
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  Speaker 1: the attention of everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Of course it did.
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  Speaker 1: The Tigers and Trek Schoogle were are you know, however
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  Speaker 1: you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about it?
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  Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty million dollars apart in extension talks.
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  Speaker 1: That was the headline. It was kind of an extension
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't mean to use that point, but it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of an extension of of some parameters of
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  Speaker 1: what we already knew last year. So I guess we
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  Speaker 1: need to address it because we haven't talked since then.
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  Speaker 1: Are the Tigers really in terror school? Well really that
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  Speaker 1: far apart? That just feels like something that isn't like
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  Speaker 1: is less basis in reality.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doubting Hayman' but it just feels like a
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  Speaker 1: big number, does it not?
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  Speaker 4: This is why I don't like the off season. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Scott Boris never sleeps, right. So a year ago there
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  Speaker 4: was some offer made, also been reported that it was
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  Speaker 4: four years less than one hundred million. And does that
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  Speaker 4: make them two hundred and fifty million apart?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: If you read what's actually out there, it's not that
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  Speaker 4: they're too that they're actively negotiating and there's this two
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars in a deer.
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  Speaker 3: It's that whatever offer was made.
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  Speaker 4: Last winter that was declined and the perceived market value,
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  Speaker 4: there's about a two hundred and fifty million dollar gap.
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  Speaker 4: As far as we know, there's been no secondary offer
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  Speaker 4: negotiations last offseason. I'm still a little bit skeptical of
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  Speaker 4: even the not the accuracy of that, but like the
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  Speaker 4: veracity of how that's framed because if you're starting a negotiation,
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  Speaker 4: what are you gonna do. You're the team, You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: start low, and then you're the agent, you're gonna start
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  Speaker 4: really high, and then you're gonna talk talk talk, talk,
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  Speaker 4: talk meat or never meet and test free agency if
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  Speaker 4: you're a Scott Bors client. So I think that's important
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  Speaker 4: to remember. Now, we can't tell, like just through through
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  Speaker 4: what we do know that Tigers seems as though I
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  Speaker 4: have never been serious about presenting Schooble a ten year
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  Speaker 4: offer whatever. If that is at all in the works,
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  Speaker 4: it has not happened yet. So I do think that's
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  Speaker 4: important to note. We've heard from Chrisilic, We've heard from
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  Speaker 4: Scott Harris, we've heard somewhat from Trek Scooble, and basically
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  Speaker 4: none of them have said anything of substance or anything
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  Speaker 4: that would indicate that there is real interest in getting
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  Speaker 4: a three hundred, three hundred and fifty four hundred dollars
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  Speaker 4: million dollar deal done. I think that's the real takeaway
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  Speaker 4: here is that from all the signs from all we know,
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  Speaker 4: the idea of an extension probably just isn't happening. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the more important takeaway. Regardless of whatever number,
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  Speaker 4: whatever framing is is kind of in some of these
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  Speaker 4: other headlines.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know there's a little bit of a like
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  Speaker 1: there part of this is a is a PR negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's just how these things work. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people leak stuff because they want it out. I've said
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  Speaker 1: it before, I'll say it again. That's how That's how
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  Speaker 1: the game is played. And then Schooble does his part
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  Speaker 1: where he goes on podcasts and he you know, talks
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  Speaker 1: about like you know, loving to play Detroit and you
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  Speaker 1: know he's joys time a team he's drafted by blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. Wants to people lay here, but then the
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  Speaker 1: business side acts it, and so it like just keep
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  Speaker 1: that in mind, Like every there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that happen by accident when these things occur. So
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  Speaker 1: I just want, you know, everybody to remember that from
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  Speaker 1: both sides, from both sides.
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  Speaker 2: And you see some stuff on X.
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  Speaker 1: I want to also get ahead of this to Cody,
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  Speaker 1: we're a pro labor podcast. Terrek Scoople does not deserve
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  Speaker 1: any flag for trying to maximize his value as a
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  Speaker 1: as a professional athlete. So like if you say, like,
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  Speaker 1: well he has the power too. He does have the
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  Speaker 1: power to. Doesn't make him wrong for trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maximize you know his financial you know, his financial capability
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  Speaker 1: with the talents.
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  Speaker 2: Of his labor. So I just want to put that
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: That's one thing about sports when people flip out and
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  Speaker 4: he's oh, he's he's greedy or whatever, like, let's get
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  Speaker 4: paid what he's worth. He's a five to six win pitcher,
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  Speaker 4: so he's going to be worth well over forty million
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  Speaker 4: dollars a year, and he's the best pitcher in the game.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't think he's crazy. If he wants an eight, nine,
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  Speaker 4: ten year contract, if he wants a record deal for
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  Speaker 4: a starting pitch, I think he's worth it, and that's
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  Speaker 4: a fair ask. And if the Tigers don't want to
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  Speaker 4: meet it, then by all means, he should test free agency.
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  Speaker 4: And if they do want to meet it, and he
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  Speaker 4: wants to test free agency anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Then I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think everyone else in society and their jobs
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  Speaker 4: like that makes sense to do. And then when an
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  Speaker 4: athlete does that, for some reason, there's this negative connotation.
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  Speaker 4: I've never got it. It does seem to me like
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  Speaker 4: We've never really heard the Tigers side of this, and
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  Speaker 4: that's an interesting thing because it's usually not in teams'
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  Speaker 4: best interests to leak details of their negotiations, and it
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  Speaker 4: can be sometimes for agents. So let's keep that in mind.
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  Speaker 4: But I do wonder, you know, wherever this stuff is
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  Speaker 4: coming from. I think we can all probably guess. Just
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  Speaker 4: does Scott Boris want Trek Schouble to get traded? My
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  Speaker 4: thought is no, because that could take a big fish
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  Speaker 4: out of the market. Let's say the New York Mets
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  Speaker 4: trade for Trek Schooble, you know, who's probably not spending
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  Speaker 4: a ton for another Scott Boris client, and what's a
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  Speaker 4: somewhat thin free agent pitching market the New York Mets, like,
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  Speaker 4: I think it takes a big fish out of the pond.
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  Speaker 4: Uh So I think for Scott Boris's broader interests, he
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  Speaker 4: might not want Trek Scoogle to get traded. So I
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  Speaker 4: I just think that's something else to consider. Not that
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  Speaker 4: Boris has any control over whether Schooble is traded. He
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  Speaker 4: does not, But that's another kind of market factor when
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  Speaker 4: you see some of these things come out, something else
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  Speaker 4: to consider that's.
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  Speaker 3: At least read on.
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  Speaker 1: He controls the framing of the conversation, or he has
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  Speaker 1: the ability to control the framing of the conversation if
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  Speaker 1: he if he definitely wanted him out, we would know.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think that would be something that would
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  Speaker 1: be kind of pedaled a little a little bit heavier.
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  Speaker 1: So uh it also, I think it's fair to say,
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  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong here, Like Schooble is a
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  Speaker 1: very much big picture, you know, union guy, Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he talks about, yeah, labor relations a lot, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the subcommittee, and he's also looking at it as like
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  Speaker 1: doing it the being a good steward to his major
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  Speaker 1: league players fellow union members to get the maximum amount
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  Speaker 1: of money possible because the next guy will be able
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  Speaker 1: to surpass him.
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  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like that he like you see that in other sports sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: but like school, I think would definitely probably has that mindset.
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  Speaker 1: If I were to guess, I don't know him. He
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  Speaker 1: is a friend of the podcast, but that would be
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  Speaker 1: a guest of mine. We're gonna get to here in
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  Speaker 1: a second. We're gonna get to what do the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here. So it seems to me
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  Speaker 1: that there are four avenues Cody, that the Tigers and
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  Speaker 1: Scooble could vent You're down in the next you know year.
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  Speaker 1: Plus One of them is extension this offseason seems unlikely,
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  Speaker 1: but that is obviously an option on the table. Another
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  Speaker 1: one would be to trade trek School. That's the talk
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  Speaker 1: of the town right now across Major League Baseball. But
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  Speaker 1: that that it would certainly generate the most headlines.
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  Speaker 2: But that is the second option.
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  Speaker 1: Third option is to go into the season with an
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  Speaker 1: open mind. Maybe you trade him, maybe you don't. And
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  Speaker 1: the fourth option is, no matter what, we're going for,
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  Speaker 1: the ability to get to a World Series, to win
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  Speaker 1: a World Series, obviously our chances are best with schoobl there,
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  Speaker 1: and we just let him play out his contract and
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  Speaker 1: after that whatever. So my question is, are any of
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  Speaker 1: those four options malpracticed by the front office like, is that, like,
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  Speaker 1: is there any one of those options that is like
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  Speaker 1: a something that in an apt front office would do?
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  Speaker 1: Because my point is I would answer my own question first,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's an argument for all of them. I think,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there are solid arguments for all, you know,
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  Speaker 1: solid arguments for even the ones that maybe suck suck
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  Speaker 1: the most for lack of a better term, But there's
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  Speaker 1: an argument for all of them. I'm not sure. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure there's malpractice here. But I asked you the question,
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  Speaker 1: what it would be your answer.
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  Speaker 4: There's a scenario where the Tiger's front office comes out
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  Speaker 4: looking really bad. That's that they don't trade them, they
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  Speaker 4: can't extend them. They're rolling the next season. They they
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  Speaker 4: do a couple of things, but they don't really improve
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  Speaker 4: the major league roster that much. They lean on a
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  Speaker 4: lot of what they have hope for internal improvements, and
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  Speaker 4: a couple things go wrong and they're out of it
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  Speaker 4: in July and they trade them at the deadline for
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  Speaker 4: what's going to be not a very big return because
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be a two month rental. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: would then feel like if that scenario came to play out,
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  Speaker 4: that would feel like malpractice that would feel like this
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  Speaker 4: was very poorly handled. That's why I'm kind of a
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  Speaker 4: proponent that the Tigers really have to pick a lane
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  Speaker 4: and they have to feel pretty convicted in that lane.
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  Speaker 4: Lane one is you understand you can't resign him, so
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna keep him. You're content, you'll write it out,
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  Speaker 4: you'll try to win a championship, You'll give him the
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  Speaker 4: qualifying offer, get a draft pick, move on. If you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna do that, you gotta be pretty serious about improving
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  Speaker 4: this team.
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  Speaker 3: So what I have you talk about?
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  Speaker 4: It seems to me today pretty likely that the projections
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  Speaker 4: are gonna come out in January and it's gonna be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers are eighty three wins something like that, and
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  Speaker 4: they can still win the Al Central. But like, what's
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  Speaker 4: gonna happen between now and then that has you on
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  Speaker 4: paper looking like a ninety.
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  Speaker 3: Plus win ball club. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: So I think you got to get real. Bring in
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  Speaker 4: a Bregman, bring in a swing and misreliever, do a
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  Speaker 4: couple other things that will require either some spending or
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  Speaker 4: some very creative maneuvering on the trade market. To come
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  Speaker 4: in with the intent to win a World Series next
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  Speaker 4: year while Erk school is on your roster. And Karen,
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  Speaker 4: if you do that to me, that kind of admits
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  Speaker 4: that there is a window. Doesn't it mean the window
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  Speaker 4: is closed when Schoobol is gone.
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  Speaker 3: But it means.
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  Speaker 4: Admitting your best chance to win a World Series is
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  Speaker 4: probably while you have the best pitcher in baseball on
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  Speaker 4: your team. That's lane one. Lane two is viewing that
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  Speaker 4: as like not practical. You're not gonna overspin to try
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  Speaker 4: to win with one year of Erk Schooble. You really
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  Speaker 4: think you can't re sign them. You don't believe in windows.
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  Speaker 4: You plan on contending for the next five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 4: and you plan on contending infinitely. So what you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: do is strengthen your organization by trying to trade him
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  Speaker 4: for the biggest haul you can. That means you gotta
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  Speaker 4: trade him right now. That's probably not the popular move,
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  Speaker 4: But I do think if you really don't believe in windows,
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  Speaker 4: I think it makes some sense. So I think I
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  Speaker 4: think they should do one of those two things.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, I mean there's there's a synergy aspect
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  Speaker 1: to what the Tigers are. You know which way they
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  Speaker 1: will go regardless of which one it is, there's a
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  Speaker 1: synergy aspect that will be established, because I do imagine
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  Speaker 1: if there's not really any marketed improvements to the roster,
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  Speaker 1: and like, you're gonna be down in Lakeland, and what
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  Speaker 1: is everybody gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Be talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Can be talking to Terrek, can be talking to Aja,
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  Speaker 1: especially when you know guys are just like you know,
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  Speaker 1: running running polls and there's not really anything else to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Is like, you know, how's he feeling, how's
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  Speaker 1: he feel about this? And it's gonna get old fast,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, come trade deadline time, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go back. The more things change, the more they say
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  Speaker 1: the same. I'm gonna go back to whether it's Terrek
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  Speaker 1: should be at the trade deadline. That's the thing though,
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  Speaker 1: as sometimes when we talk about it, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: it's such a like, well, he's not gonna want an extension,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like it almost seems like a defeated mindset.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be.
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  Speaker 1: You still have the ability to improve your team to
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  Speaker 1: make it World series viable. One could make the argument
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  Speaker 1: we thought that at one point this year. Of course
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  Speaker 1: I say that, and then they're not gonna make any
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  Speaker 1: bank on as you said internal improvements, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna look all that different. So anyway, I just
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to fathom Tek Schooble getting traded
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  Speaker 1: midseason because at that point then the dimission returns are
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  Speaker 1: just like, what is it gonna be thirty five cents
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  Speaker 1: on the dollar? That feels that that if that, that
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  Speaker 1: feels like highly unlikely. There are trades out there that
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  Speaker 1: are intriguing right now, but again with the synergy stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to unload and get younger in
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  Speaker 1: some positions also in order to kind of line up
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe I don't know if we believe in
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  Speaker 1: and windows, but I think we should believe in timeline.
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to line up the timeline a
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  Speaker 1: little bit if you do that. So, uh, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: take a quick break. But first I want to remind everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to some tear Scuoble trades.
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  Speaker 1: either the Manners or the Blue Jays. Cody, I'm paraphrasing
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  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts here. Do you expect that the Dodgers will
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  Speaker 1: quote keep ruining baseball at the conclusion of this World Series?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a good World Series either way,
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I was trying to see.
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  Speaker 1: Cody if I could find a good tech school trade.
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  Speaker 1: And man, is that a hard exercise because I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out again with the synergy stuff, I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what would make sense for a return
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  Speaker 1: for tech schoobl I and I thought, well, getting younger,
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  Speaker 1: having identifiable traits that we believe and know that the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers value, and then also so having some spectrum of
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  Speaker 1: immediacy in terms of in terms of value got back.
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  Speaker 1: Which I say that all out loud. It's actually kind
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  Speaker 1: of hard to come up with a Tarik school trade
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  Speaker 1: that kind of threads all those needles. So why don't
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  Speaker 1: we start out with the New York Mets. The New
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  Speaker 1: York Mets have been heavily linked to Tarrek Schooble speculation,
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  Speaker 1: nothing official obviously, so I know the Texas small here,
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  Speaker 1: but you know from terror schoogbl and also Wentzell Perez.
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  Speaker 1: I'll keep this in mind. I'm threw in Perez there
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  Speaker 1: as a ser Carson Binge, Jeff McNeil, Blade, Tidwell, and Jacob.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Ramer or Ramer, but that
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  Speaker 1: would be the number two prospect for the Mets, their
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  Speaker 1: current second baseman, their number six prospects who's a corner
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  Speaker 1: infielder and a young pitcher who does who Yeah, another
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  Speaker 1: young arm who has you know a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: major league experience. So here's my thought process on that
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  Speaker 1: outfield prospect in Binge, who has a lot of upside,
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  Speaker 1: left handed, left handed hitter. People like his played approach
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, number two, number two prospect in
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  Speaker 1: Double A last year he had a nine to seventy
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  Speaker 1: eight ops. It feels like that's that's the trait that
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  Speaker 1: you can get behind McNeil. You have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of team control. You talk about swinging miss He only
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  Speaker 1: struck out fifty five times last year. He was a
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  Speaker 1: two war player. There is some defensive versatility in there. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's a little older, he's like thirty three, thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: Blade Tidwell and Jacob Remer are kind of just like,
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  Speaker 1: let's get some high not standing on the high upside,
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  Speaker 1: but some guys with some trades who who makes some
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  Speaker 1: sense and maybe can figure out into the into the
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  Speaker 1: either the minor league system where you're about to have
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  Speaker 1: holes or you know, push for some major league times.
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  Speaker 1: So the headline is is Beinge and McNeil. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: the top twenty ish prospect in baseball. That's an established
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  Speaker 1: major leaguer. And and again benj is a guy who
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  Speaker 1: could help you probably sometime this year. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: was comfortable with partying with Perez in this trade. So
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  Speaker 1: I know I said a lot there, Cody, But what
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, these things are hard.
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  Speaker 4: It depends a lot on your evaluations of the prospects
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  Speaker 4: at hand. I like, I don't know that I love
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  Speaker 4: the idea of the Tigers getting Jeff McNeil. He is
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  Speaker 4: left handed, which they kind of don't need more of.
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  Speaker 4: He is versatile, which is always helpful. I do like
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  Speaker 4: the idea of somehow getting proven major league talent in
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  Speaker 4: one of these trades, and that's probably kind of the
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  Speaker 4: hardest thing to do when you're talking about dealing with
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  Speaker 4: a contending team. But just looking at some of the
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  Speaker 4: farm systems across the game, I think the Mets do
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  Speaker 4: strike me as the most obvious suitor the trade. I
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a lot would be Joe Mattong, Brandon
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  Speaker 4: Sproute and Jet Williams. That's two young pitchers who could
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  Speaker 4: help you in the major leagues. Tong's a guy I
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  Speaker 4: like a lot, throws hard, has kind of that North
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  Speaker 4: South profile.
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  Speaker 3: Jet Williams.
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  Speaker 4: He's five, which is interesting, but he can play outfield,
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  Speaker 4: he can play up the middle in the infield, walk
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  Speaker 4: to a twenty three percent clip in the minors, and
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  Speaker 4: he hits the ball in the air a lot. There's
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  Speaker 4: probably some strikeout concern though, So like, again, what do
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  Speaker 4: your scouts think of a player like Jet Williams.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: If you could talk the Mets and do Nolan McLain
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  Speaker 4: their best pitching prospect instead of a tongue or sprout man,
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  Speaker 4: I think that'd be a heck of a return. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna assume you can't talk him into McLain, but if
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  Speaker 4: you got two young pitchers and a middle of the
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  Speaker 4: diamond athlete with some real upside, like I think that
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  Speaker 4: is a pretty good baseline for what you need to
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  Speaker 4: get back for Tarrek Scuoble. It needs to be pitchers
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  Speaker 4: who can help you soon as in next year, and
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  Speaker 4: have some upside and improve your position playing core a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. Just looking at farm systems across the game
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  Speaker 4: in terms of contending teams that would be willing to
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  Speaker 4: take on Trek's scoogle. The Mets do strike me as
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  Speaker 4: the team where they're a different configurations and prospects that
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  Speaker 4: I think could be pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like I everything you said there feels valid.
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  Speaker 2: I just felt like it it's gonna be hard.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to really talk me out if I'm
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers out of not getting one of those top
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  Speaker 1: two prospects. That one of them already is a major
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  Speaker 1: leaguer and has shown the ability to be an ace.
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  Speaker 1: The other one, you know, is knocking on the door
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  Speaker 1: and has as much promise as as anyone.
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  Speaker 2: That you could reasonably get in the trade.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like the trace that you
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  Speaker 1: laid out there, make a lot of sense that those
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  Speaker 1: like the two, three, four Mets prospects basically is what
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  Speaker 1: you're getting. And and again like if you can get
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  Speaker 1: somebody with high upside, if you can get somebody with
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  Speaker 1: some immedia, see if you can kind of blend that,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to do here. And that's and
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  Speaker 1: that brings me to another desperate team, same division actually
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  Speaker 1: in the National League East, the Philadelphia Phillies feels like
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  Speaker 1: they're at their wits end end up trying to you know,
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  Speaker 1: get past the Dodgers, you know, win a World Series
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  Speaker 1: in Dombrowski's tenure there, So I kind of went big here.
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  Speaker 1: Cody Andrew Painter, that's their number one pitching prospect.
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  Speaker 2: That's a guy that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, six seven, two fifteen. We want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about extension with that guy. And then Justin Crawford, who's
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  Speaker 1: an outfielder, their third their third rank prospect. And then
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  Speaker 1: again just trying to find somebody that has a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of upside. Brian Ringcone. He's a middle infield prospect.
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  Speaker 1: He's only he's twenty one years old. He is not
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  Speaker 1: refined at all, but he has the athletic ability that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of teams seem to like and and we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: So that's so that's one year of Tarrek Schoogle for again,
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  Speaker 1: a top twenty pitching prospect, the top forty fielding outfield prospect,
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  Speaker 1: and then just kind of a dart throw as a
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  Speaker 1: prospect in Ringcone. So that was my thought process there.
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  Speaker 1: This is really taking advantage of a desperate team if
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  Speaker 1: you can get them.
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  Speaker 4: To fu Yeah, are you the perils of a Dave
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  Speaker 4: Dombrowski team. That pharm system is starting to look a
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  Speaker 4: little bit thinned out after making some bold moves at
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  Speaker 4: the deadline. I think they would have to give up
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  Speaker 4: Painter for a deal with the Phillies to even be viable.
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  Speaker 4: And after trading so many prospects, would you really trade
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  Speaker 4: Andrew Payner for one year of trek Skubele? They have
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  Speaker 4: some other work to do. They're really trying to trade
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  Speaker 4: Nick Castiano, so I'm not sure they're going to have
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  Speaker 4: any takers. Yeah, if you can get Painter, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's worth discussion. But that would be a very bold
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  Speaker 4: move to trade, to trade a guy like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it's Debrowski's not not afraid to make
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  Speaker 1: bold moves, so you could probably talk him in.
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  Speaker 2: And also there is a note here there is a.
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  Speaker 1: Re a working relationship between Dobrowski and in Scott Harris.
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  Speaker 1: They've made they they made the Soto trade together. So
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  Speaker 1: I always think, especially if you look at Scott Harrison's reputation,
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  Speaker 1: I always think, you know, take into account maybe somebody
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  Speaker 1: he's had some do.
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  Speaker 4: We want to re up the Alec Boehms stuff. So
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  Speaker 4: I think they're still looking to shop in And he
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  Speaker 4: had kind of an al right year. He's only a
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  Speaker 4: one point three war but to eighty seven average, three
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  Speaker 4: thirty three on base.
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  Speaker 2: Put him in the trade. Put him in the trade.
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  Speaker 3: It's some major league ready talent.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I like that all right.
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  Speaker 1: Last one that I have here is with the Boston
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox, a team that I don't think I would
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  Speaker 1: classify as desperate as the Mets or the Phillies, but
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  Speaker 1: a team nonetheless that has shown a certain level of aggression.
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  Speaker 1: They have more prospects than they can reasonably use here
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  Speaker 1: moving forward. So a couple different, couple of different options here.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about putting Christian Campbell in this. He was
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  Speaker 1: good in Triple A after getting demoted after his Rookie
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  Speaker 1: of the Month April, so like there there is something there.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about that again. Villain, second base, out field
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  Speaker 1: versatility as well. Uh So, I know he's on the screen,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought about it. The password is intriguing as well,
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  Speaker 1: but I went with franklin arias their number one prospect.
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  Speaker 2: H I misspelled. I misspelled. It's a.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's connorly Early, So that's a that is
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  Speaker 1: a top type on my part. And Justin Gonzales, uh
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  Speaker 1: for for one year of trek schoobl service areas is
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  Speaker 1: like a year away. It seems like he's young. He's
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  Speaker 1: only nineteen. You're starting to think about I know everybody
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: loves Bryce Rayner, but injury, what's his best position?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Like it's not it's not bad idea to.
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  Speaker 1: Have another shortstop in the system that has high upside
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  Speaker 1: areas certainly qualifies as that. But again, you can put
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  Speaker 1: Christian Campbell in there, and I think that's worth the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: talking point. Dare I say, Marcella Meyer, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Is that is that? Is? That? Is that the avenue
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  Speaker 2: you want to go down?
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  Speaker 1: But the problem, the thing about the Red Sox is
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of options that you can kind
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  Speaker 1: of pick through if you want to create a school trade.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why I put them in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the type of thing where again it
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  Speaker 4: comes down to the Tigers needing to pick a lane
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  Speaker 4: with their organizational philosophy. What do they want and can
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  Speaker 4: they be convicted and whatever it is that they want
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  Speaker 4: and that they see for this organization. Franklinarius draws comparisons
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  Speaker 4: to Marcel Meyer at a similar age. He is a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years away from the big leagues. But if
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  Speaker 4: you just want an embarrassment of riches coming up through
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  Speaker 4: your system. Maybe this move makes sense, even though it
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: would kind of look like you're not putting yourself in
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  Speaker 4: a great position. For twenty twenty six, there were a
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  Speaker 4: way to know. Let's say the Red Sox get pregnant,
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  Speaker 4: they resign them. Might they be willing to move on
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  Speaker 4: from a Christian Campbell if you could get him in
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  Speaker 4: this trade? That suddenly looks pretty appealing. Yeah, I'm still looking.
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  Speaker 4: You know, is there a team that would be willing
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: to do an old school baseball trade? You know what
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers could take on payroll. Is there anyone looking
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  Speaker 4: to dump payroll but stay competitive? I don't know, text
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  Speaker 4: Rangers maybe, or anything there. Trek Scuball for Corey Seeger
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  Speaker 4: throwing Kamar Rocker, Huh, probably not gonna happen, but but
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  Speaker 4: it seems like that get the Twitter sphere going.
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  Speaker 3: Rangers want to get cheap, they're not moving.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get Meyer and Langford and Yeah, if we're
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: living in reality, I don't see a do you like
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  Speaker 4: that happening? But I wonder if something like that is
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: out there, something a little bit old school, and the
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  Speaker 4: Tigers could take on some payroll for a still good
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: player not in it Castianos, but it would also make
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: sense for the other teams still trying to win. So
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: many of these farm systems of contending teams just don't
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  Speaker 4: really like it's gonna be hard to really get top
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  Speaker 4: tier value. And I do think that's the one thing
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  Speaker 4: that works in the tigers favor is they don't have
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  Speaker 4: to trade him. They do have the leverage. They can
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: just say no, we'll run it back, We'll we'll try
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  Speaker 4: to win a championship this year and give them the
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  Speaker 4: qualifying offer. I think it's very important that Tigers get
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  Speaker 4: this right. I think there's a real case that trading
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  Speaker 4: him could work out, but you gotta get some good players,
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  Speaker 4: multiple good players in return. And we're still talking out.
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  Speaker 4: We'll probably talk this out the rest of the off season,
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  Speaker 4: but I think you can already tell it's hard to
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: really find that one trade where you go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's it and it's gonna make sense for both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so that's the thing, like trying to find
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  Speaker 1: a trade, like the Tigers can trade, And honestly, if
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: trade Schooble is the move, So I'm saying it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: If trading Schooble is the move.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: The deal has to be a non rebuild deal in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: my opinion, right, you still have too many other talented players.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: You have aj Hinch, like too good of a manager
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  Speaker 1: to go into some sort of like quote unquote rebuild.
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  Speaker 1: That's why, like you know, any verlind Or trade comparisons
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: are completely different because the team's in a completely different spot, right.
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  Speaker 3: Talent some.
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  Speaker 1: Guys that can that are knocking on the door or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta, you gotta. It's not just a it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: not a sell, it's a you're sort of like buying
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: additional years, if that makes sense. That's how you got
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: That's how you gotta look at a potential Schooble trade
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Uh, and again, maybe that narrows the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: market a little bit in terms of like what is
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: actually available to you. And the danger I would say
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: about any of this is you're gonna have to kind
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of guess about timing and you better get it right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So it's like if you strike out on a free
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: agent that you know, like a position player free agent,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: say like Labor moves on, and you're kind of like like, then.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe it makes a little bit more sense.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: To try to trade because you're gonna your team's gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: be less like, less talented next season potentially.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, again, how that's an interesting way to look
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: at it. Do you let the winner play out and
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: then if it doesn't go your way you trade them,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: or do you trade them early and then make moves
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: based on that? And what are other teams thinking at
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the same time. In a way, Terrek Scoople is the
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: biggest fish on the market, even though he's not officially
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: on the market. So I do wonder if that puts
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: pressure on the rest of the league to move in
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: November early December rather than let this thing drag out forever.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Derek Koshe moved pretty early in the off season last
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: last winter.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Again, I'd be interested to see if anybody puts a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: grand a godfather off or out there, because that's that's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be what it takes to get Scott Harris' attention.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: You know, at this point, especially early on.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I was looking at the padres Is like a j Preler,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: still feeling the heat. He's the one guy. And then
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, they they pretty much traded everyone away
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: other than Ethan Sallas, and would they trade him, And
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: did the Tigers even need a catcher.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if Preler has this
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  Speaker 3: move in them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: The Dodgers remain out there though the Dodgers farm system
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: deep still deep.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Out of respect for their World Series run, I did
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: not include them on this list, But now there will
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: be a time where we will we will talk about that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: For sure, all right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: The Mariners, Mariners, mannors, could be, could be, We're not.
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  Speaker 1: This is not the last we're going to talk about this.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But I did kind of want to get like a
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: framework of how I'm thinking about any potential school trade,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: how you're thinking about any potential school trade.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And then what you guys think, like, you.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Know, hit us, you know, hit us up on ax,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know, comment on YouTube or whatever, like is there
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a comfortable way to go about this in your opinion,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: because because that's another thing too. How much Keen's stomach
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I say this a lot, how much Keen's stomach. That's
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: what the money's force got hairs. Okay, little a little
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: more current actual tangible team news, Cody, the Tigers. There
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: was a report, and I believe you had it confirmed
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that Anthony Ioposi will not return as first base coach
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this this next season. So we talked about after the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: news conference to end of the year whether the Tigers
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: would have any staff changes. A lot of this stuff
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: is pretty inevitable, but this is the first domino to fall.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I oppose he won't be back.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: He was, as far as I could tell, a really
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: well liked coach, popular with the players, energetic presence, robust experience.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: He managed the mud Hens for a year. He was
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: hitting coach with the Cubs and with the Rangers. So
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: it seems like a thing where maybe he's going to
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: be able to seek some other opportunities, something that might
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: fit him better, whether it's a hitting coach role or maybe,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know anything other than first base coach.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I'd expect at least, you know, at least one more
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: move probably coming on the major league staff, some shuffling
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: in the minors, like there always is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I think we have a little more to.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Come in terms of coaching news, but maybe not anything
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: major or groundbreaking.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: At the same time, and correct me if I'm wrong.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I just I haven't really seen a whole lot of
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Lombard links.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Not a ton that's out there publicly.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure some of these manager searches will
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: pick up, especially after the World Series, but as of
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: right now, it does seem like he's he's kind of
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: died down as a hot name. But there's a lot
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: off season left, there's a lot of vacancies, so see
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: where that leads.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And speaking of Lombard, I tried to create a Yankees
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: trade for for school, and I just I couldn't get there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Like I just didn't really like the Lombard juniors.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: They'd have to give Lombard junior.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: He's also a couple of years away, so again it
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't fit the uh you know, give you some immediacy.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, do you want Spencer Jones? You know what
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Is the center fielder?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so I'm not disputing like him as his prospect.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, you want like another outfielder, maybe a little
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: bit applauding presence, Like yeah, it's like, yeah, that's just
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a rabbit hole I went down. I couldn't get there
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: with the Yankees. But the off season still young. Maybe
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'll come up with one a little bit, a little
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: bit later. So so yeah, so that's why I always
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: say take advantage of the opportunities when they come. Because
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Lombard gets interviewed, doesn't get them, then those in the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: world kind of pass you by.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So you get you get.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Offered these jobs. Why do this guy take this job?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: There's only so many of them, so take them, take
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: them if they're offered. So anyway, we will be back
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: later this week and you know, any any news and updates,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: we'll have that for you guys. But we're we're plotting
• 35:41
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• 35:43
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