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- 0:52Speaker 1: this is sort of an ad. But the other reason
- 0:55Speaker 1: we're posting this episode this week is because it's about
- 0:59Speaker 1: a documentary called In Plane Sight, UFOs and the intelligence community,
- 1:05Speaker 1: and I wanted to post it free to the public,
- 1:07Speaker 1: mostly because I bring it up on this podcast all
- 1:11Speaker 1: the time, including on our most recent public episode, which
- 1:16Speaker 1: was a conspiracy news roundup called The Mothership theory, and
- 1:22Speaker 1: the mothership theory is something that came from the Pentagon recently,
- 1:27Speaker 1: where in regards to all of those UFO videos we've
- 1:30Speaker 1: been seeing for the past five or six years now,
- 1:33Speaker 1: someone at the Pentagon just up and decided, Hey, maybe
- 1:36Speaker 1: those are just smaller UFOs coming from a bigger mothership
- 1:40Speaker 1: UFO and that sounded alarming to me, and it immediately
- 1:45Speaker 1: brought to mind this documentary that we cover on this
- 1:48Speaker 1: episode you're about to listen to. I honestly think it's
- 1:51Speaker 1: one of the most alarming documentaries on Amazon right now,
- 1:55Speaker 1: and I brought it up on that last episode. So
- 1:58Speaker 1: while we're on a very brief break, we'll be back
- 2:01Speaker 1: with new episodes next week. I wanted to put this
- 2:04Speaker 1: out for the entire public to hear, so the next
- 2:08Speaker 1: time I reference this documentary on a free episode, you'll
- 2:12Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. And Hey, that's it. Thanks,
- 2:15Speaker 1: we love you. Let's get to the show.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
- 2:33Speaker 2: Gary podcast with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
- 2:54Speaker 3: And I'm Olivia Hidar.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Hey, that makes us your hosts. Olivia. How's it going.
- 3:01Speaker 3: It's going. Well, it's uh Thanksgiving time, so you know,
- 3:07Speaker 3: I'm preparing myself for family visits, which is it's a process.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mostly just preparing to watch a lot of football.
- 3:18Speaker 1: There'll be family visits, but it's all my in laws.
- 3:21Speaker 1: My family all lives in the Midwest, and I'm staying
- 3:24Speaker 1: here for most of the time, so it's gonna be
- 3:26Speaker 1: pretty chill for me. I am packing in the recordings
- 3:30Speaker 1: today the day before Thanksgiving, so I can just chill
- 3:34Speaker 1: and watch sports and smoke weed baby all weekend long,
- 3:39Speaker 1: all weekend. Might go to a movie.
- 3:42Speaker 3: We'll see Yeah, we'll see how it gonna go? See
- 3:45Speaker 3: the fa Woman's go see glass Onion.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Oh, glass Onion. I'm fucking with that. Yeah, I might
- 3:50Speaker 1: go see that. We're doing a bonus episode. We're covering
- 3:53Speaker 1: a documentary. It's called In Plain Sight the Intelligence Community
- 3:58Speaker 1: and UFOs. It's one of them Amon documentaries.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Yes, they just seem to multiply like rabbits. They're just
- 4:07Speaker 3: fucking in the search window while every while no one's looking,
- 4:10Speaker 3: and then oh, hey there's another one.
- 4:12Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it much, but I feel like
- 4:15Speaker 1: we're on the same page about this documentary. Mm hmmm,
- 4:19Speaker 1: in that it feels like everyone in this is a
- 4:22Speaker 1: government agent of some sort, yeah, or the unwitting accomplice
- 4:26Speaker 1: of the government.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. When I saw that the title was the
- 4:32Speaker 3: Intelligence Community in UFOs, I didn't literally meet think it
- 4:35Speaker 3: would mean, like, those are the two things that are
- 4:38Speaker 3: in the two Like, yeah, groups that are in the movie.
- 4:43Speaker 3: I was expecting so many members of the intelligence community.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a weird level of access to
- 4:50Speaker 1: the intelligence community that this filmmaker gets.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I had my hopes up that this was gonna be
- 4:57Speaker 1: one of those Amazon documentaries that doesn't weirdly veer off
- 5:01Speaker 1: into it's the Jews, but you do actually sort of
- 5:06Speaker 1: get there in around that way at the end.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say the question of the Jews looms
- 5:15Speaker 3: large over large portions of this documentary.
- 5:19Speaker 1: I definitely get the creepy Crawley's when they start talking
- 5:22Speaker 1: about hybrid humans and like people who are extra alien
- 5:28Speaker 1: enhanced and how you can see it in their DNA,
- 5:30Speaker 1: It's like, yeah that I don't like where this is going.
- 5:34Speaker 3: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like
- 5:36Speaker 3: that part. I didn't like this movie very much. I'm
- 5:39Speaker 3: good to say no.
- 5:40Speaker 1: No, I have a lot of problems with it and
- 5:42Speaker 1: it first I couldn't even get a grasp on what
- 5:46Speaker 1: this was supposed to be. Yeah, because so much of
- 5:49Speaker 1: it is just kind of a retelling of Roswell.
- 5:53Speaker 3: Yeah. I kept waiting for them to unveil the hook,
- 5:58Speaker 3: like the reason why they made this documentary, and that
- 6:04Speaker 3: never really happens. There's not like a specific thing that
- 6:09Speaker 3: separates this from other UFO documentaries.
- 6:13Speaker 1: No, not really. You really got to put your conspiracy
- 6:16Speaker 1: hat on for this documentary to seem like it has
- 6:20Speaker 1: any purpose. We'll talk about it later. The documentary opens again.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So much of it is just about Roswell. There's an
- 6:29Speaker 1: old timey military guy talking about how UFOs are nothing
- 6:33Speaker 1: to worry about. But then there's an interview with Major
- 6:36Speaker 1: Donald Keyho, who I've talked about on this pod a
- 6:40Speaker 1: bunch before. And what's weird is, if I recall correctly,
- 6:44Speaker 1: they show a clip where he's like, well, I'm I'm
- 6:47Speaker 1: pretty sure we're gonna find out that these things are interplanetary. Yeah,
- 6:51Speaker 1: and if you really dig into Donald Keyho. His whole
- 6:55Speaker 1: thing was that he thought the CIA was basicly faking
- 7:01Speaker 1: UFO sightings and that it was just right American military technology,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and that the CIA was like false flagging it basically
- 7:10Speaker 1: for propaganda reasons, and that never really comes up, Like
- 7:14Speaker 1: he doesn't well, his take on that isn't really mentioned,
- 7:18Speaker 1: and he was like the leading proponent of that. It's
- 7:20Speaker 1: all in those yeah CIA files they released a couple
- 7:24Speaker 1: of years ago.
- 7:25Speaker 3: It kind of brushes past that idea a couple of times.
- 7:29Speaker 3: But also it's so surfacy about every idea that it
- 7:34Speaker 3: talks about. Yeah, that it's easy for anything in particular
- 7:38Speaker 3: to get lost in the noise because everything is given
- 7:42Speaker 3: basically equal weight. But like, there's so much talk of
- 7:45Speaker 3: the government sending in people to purposely spread disinformation, and
- 7:52Speaker 3: so much of that comes to people like Major Donald Keiho,
- 7:56Speaker 3: who either worked for the government or specifically work in
- 8:00Speaker 3: spreading disinformation, and that kind of makes all of this
- 8:07Speaker 3: very suspicious.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the first people they interview is a
- 8:11Speaker 1: guy named John Ramirez, and he's a retired CIA officer. Yeah. Yeah,
- 8:17Speaker 1: he is the prototype for that Jesse Ventura story where
- 8:21Speaker 1: he was like, I met with the CIA, and they
- 8:24Speaker 1: just look like your neighbors, right, John Ramirez looks like
- 8:27Speaker 1: your fucking neighbor.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah, he just looks like a guy.
- 8:29Speaker 1: He's just a dude. And he starts by telling us
- 8:33Speaker 1: he got the Career Intelligence Metal for his service, and
- 8:36Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so we can definitely trust.
- 8:39Speaker 3: You, right, absolutely, you are a.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Expert CIA agent. Please tell me everything you know about UFOs.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I believe all of this, right.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I was kind of shocked that it was starting off
- 8:52Speaker 3: and like because again, like I found this documentary and
- 8:55Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Cia UFOs, this is kind of in
- 8:59Speaker 3: our Yeah, but I'm expecting it to be like, I
- 9:03Speaker 3: don't know, more probing about how or you know, offering
- 9:07Speaker 3: new insight into how these two things might be related,
- 9:10Speaker 3: and instead it's a lot of ciah.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. The title is very descriptive, see the
- 9:18Speaker 1: Intelligence community and UFOs. That is just this is just
- 9:21Speaker 1: interviews with the intelligence community about UFO.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Yes, and if they could get an interview with the UFO,
- 9:27Speaker 3: I'm sure that they would do that too, and hey,
- 9:30Speaker 3: it would be better.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Also, Richard Dody is in this Yeah, yeah, have you
- 9:36Speaker 1: seen Miraje Men?
- 9:37Speaker 3: I haven't but we've talked about it a lot.
- 9:40Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. It's a documentary about Richard Dody,
- 9:44Speaker 1: and it's all about how his whole aim, like his
- 9:48Speaker 1: entire career, was misinformation, and he talks about it in
- 9:53Speaker 1: this documentary too. He says, if let's say you're driving
- 9:57Speaker 1: past a testing facility and you see a UFO or
- 10:02Speaker 1: you see a military project, I'm gonna come out and
- 10:07Speaker 1: try to swing you in the other direction. Like if
- 10:09Speaker 1: you saw a military thing, I'm gonna come out and
- 10:12Speaker 1: be like, you're right, that was a UFO. If you
- 10:15Speaker 1: say it was a UFO and you're right, he's gonna
- 10:17Speaker 1: come out and say, no, it's just military project. And
- 10:20Speaker 1: either way, he says something really interesting where he's like
- 10:23Speaker 1: and then I'm like, but you're gonna be quiet about this,
- 10:26Speaker 1: like you're a patriot, right, Like you're not gonna tell
- 10:28Speaker 1: anyone knowing that person is gonna go tell what information
- 10:34Speaker 1: they got, and then because it's false information, the government
- 10:37Speaker 1: can just discredit them.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And I mean, I have no reason to
- 10:43Speaker 3: believe that he's not doing that in this movie exactly,
- 10:49Speaker 3: And the movie doesn't really give you any reason to
- 10:51Speaker 3: think the other way. Except for the fact that he
- 10:53Speaker 3: is constantly interviewed like he is an expert about UFOs
- 10:58Speaker 3: is a real phenomenon. Like, yeah, it feels like this
- 11:02Speaker 3: was like a Moufon funded documentary, but like they didn't
- 11:06Speaker 3: realize that they're like interviewing the guy who like infiltrated
- 11:11Speaker 3: their group and gave them misinformation.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that Moufon guy that they interview a
- 11:18Speaker 1: bunch in this. I got such strong like observe and
- 11:21Speaker 1: report Paul Blunt type vibes. I was just waiting for
- 11:26Speaker 1: him to pull out his Moufon badge that he bought
- 11:28Speaker 1: on Etsy.
- 11:29Speaker 3: You're referring to the guy who is an expert on
- 11:33Speaker 3: how the intelligence community operates because he was in the
- 11:37Speaker 3: Oklahoma Army National Guard.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Correct.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeh.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Jesse Peak is his name, and he talks for a
- 11:47Speaker 1: long goddamn time. When they first introduced him.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the most Like he's definitely one
- 11:55Speaker 3: of the longest talking heads that both in size and
- 11:59Speaker 3: the like, Like the.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Words and everything he says just kind of amounts to, well,
- 12:09Speaker 1: you know, you can't always trust what the intelligence community
- 12:11Speaker 1: has to say. And even by that point, which is
- 12:14Speaker 1: very early in the documentary, I'm like, what the fuck
- 12:17Speaker 1: are we doing here?
- 12:18Speaker 3: Yeah? Shit, Sherlock, what's this four?
- 12:21Speaker 1: And it's called also you also can't call it in
- 12:24Speaker 1: play in sight. Now, I just feel like I'm being
- 12:27Speaker 1: fucked with.
- 12:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that title, I guess it just means like it's
- 12:31Speaker 3: all just happening. All of this is just happening, and
- 12:34Speaker 3: everybody knows about it, but we're all lying about it
- 12:36Speaker 3: or something. I don't know what the title really means
- 12:39Speaker 3: in reference to the film.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That's why I feel like we're being fucked with. I
- 12:44Speaker 1: feel like the intelligence community made this documentary.
- 12:48Speaker 3: But I will say, though, then if they did, then
- 12:50Speaker 3: they fucked up by making us pay for it instead
- 12:54Speaker 3: of it because there are so many documentaries.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I agree that I fucked up paying for this.
- 13:01Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, absolutely, but like, there are so many
- 13:04Speaker 3: documentaries just like this on Amazon for free. Why not
- 13:10Speaker 3: make it free if you're gonna do this weird misinformation thing.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Richard Dody talks a lot about Roswell in this
- 13:18Speaker 1: and the vibe I get is that this documentary is
- 13:23Speaker 1: mostly built around that batch of CIA files that were
- 13:28Speaker 1: released about Roswell and UFOs. It was sometime last year
- 13:34Speaker 1: We did a bunch of episodes about them, but they're
- 13:36Speaker 1: honestly not that interesting. Like, I think we got all
- 13:40Speaker 1: of the interesting stuff out of them. I look at
- 13:43Speaker 1: every fucking one of them.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of information from that,
- 13:49Speaker 3: and there's a lot of information from all of the
- 13:52Speaker 3: original Roswell reporting. Yeah, and a lot of fan fiction
- 13:59Speaker 3: kind of flesh it all out. And all of the
- 14:02Speaker 3: fan fiction is written by current or former members of
- 14:07Speaker 3: the CIA. Correct, So it's kind of weird.
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- 15:00Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show. Yeah. Richard Doty talks
- 15:09Speaker 1: about how there was a live alien captured at Roswell. Yeah,
- 15:13Speaker 1: and that it was well held in government captivity and
- 15:17Speaker 1: it lived until nineteen fifty two.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, first of all, the description of how
- 15:24Speaker 3: Roswell happened is just so looney tunes. This is the
- 15:29Speaker 3: first time that I've heard the theory that it was
- 15:32Speaker 3: two UFOs that crashed into each other because of a
- 15:39Speaker 3: lightning storm, and then one crashed farther away, and that's
- 15:44Speaker 3: where the alien came from, and then the famous one
- 15:48Speaker 3: crashed by Roswell. Right, But these are fifty thousand years
- 15:53Speaker 3: more advanced than us, but they crashed the fuck into
- 15:57Speaker 3: each other. On Earth.
- 15:59Speaker 1: They have a little bar and the sky, and that's
- 16:01Speaker 1: what takes how. I did a solo episode about something
- 16:07Speaker 1: Roswell related, and I kept bringing up that exact thing,
- 16:10Speaker 1: Like this whole theory behind Roswell is these aliens crashed,
- 16:15Speaker 1: and we wanted this technology. But every fucking story is
- 16:20Speaker 1: about this technology crashing. We had technology by that point
- 16:24Speaker 1: that could stay in the skies over the United States successfully.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Not to mention, Okay, they're fifty thousand years more. That's
- 16:35Speaker 3: what Richard Dodie tells us, is that these aliens are
- 16:38Speaker 3: fifty thousand years. That is the entirety of the human species,
- 16:42Speaker 3: by the way, So think of we are cavemen to they,
- 16:46Speaker 3: like we're before cavemen to these aliens. They traveled across
- 16:52Speaker 3: the galaxy, maybe further in space, and there's a lot
- 16:57Speaker 3: of shit in space, and they're going fast because they
- 17:01Speaker 3: got to get here. So they hit a fucking asteroid
- 17:06Speaker 3: in space. How does that not obliterate their ship? If
- 17:10Speaker 3: they can hit each other in our atmosphere because of
- 17:13Speaker 3: a lightning storm and that makes it crash, it just
- 17:17Speaker 3: blows my mind.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I like to imagine that that is the whole conundrum
- 17:23Speaker 1: we're facing. We as technology crashed here in the nineteen
- 17:28Speaker 1: forties and we could do untold numbers of things in
- 17:32Speaker 1: space with it, but we just can't get it from
- 17:35Speaker 1: Earth to space. Well, it cannot handle that trip over
- 17:40Speaker 1: the Earth skies, just burns up in the atmosphere before
- 17:45Speaker 1: it gets to space. Like fuck every time.
- 17:49Speaker 3: The problem is no. See, we actually did get a
- 17:52Speaker 3: bunch of technology from the raja A aliens, but it
- 17:56Speaker 3: was the wrong technology because actually what happened was the
- 18:00Speaker 3: ship crashed because the aliens were tweeting, and we found
- 18:06Speaker 3: Twitter and we were like, oh, this advanced technology and
- 18:09Speaker 3: we were reverse engineered different there, and now our entire
- 18:14Speaker 3: society is crashing.
- 18:17Speaker 1: We backed the wrong horse the technology standpoint, anyway. So yeah,
- 18:22Speaker 1: the first again, the first twenty minutes or so are
- 18:25Speaker 1: just kind of a retelling of the events of Roswell,
- 18:29Speaker 1: but with the added detail that intelligence operatives threatened witnesses
- 18:34Speaker 1: with prison or death if they ever talked to anyone
- 18:38Speaker 1: about what they saw.
- 18:39Speaker 3: It made it sound like the way that he phrased
- 18:42Speaker 3: it made it sound like they threatened the entire town
- 18:45Speaker 3: of Roswell, kind of like that this whole town has
- 18:50Speaker 3: been made to keep silent or they will be murdered.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Just driving through town with a bullhorn shouting at everyone.
- 19:00Speaker 3: There are no aliens. Go back inside.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Wow, you kind of sound like an alien right now yourself, son,
- 19:08Speaker 1: that's what that voice.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Oh.
- 19:10Speaker 1: They also interview Eric Mintel. He's a paranormal investigator. I
- 19:13Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck this guy's doing here.
- 19:15Speaker 3: I think this was the guy who sounded like Ray Romano.
- 19:19Speaker 1: There was one guy who looked like, Yeah, the gray
- 19:21Speaker 1: hair kind of looked like Romano or No, I think
- 19:25Speaker 1: you're thinking of the guy with the big huge glasses.
- 19:27Speaker 3: I'm think of the guy with the mustache. Yeah, it was.
- 19:30Speaker 3: It's very they only put their name on screen fucking
- 19:33Speaker 3: at once at the very beginning. That's sloppy doc filmmaking.
- 19:37Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it sure is.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Yeah. And yeah, even this guy, like I get recent
- 19:42Speaker 1: military intelligence vibes from Like he's presenting himself like, hey,
- 19:47Speaker 1: I'm just a hip internet paranormal investigator and it's like, yeah,
- 19:51Speaker 1: it's like you learned to do that at Quantico.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Wait, oh yeah, he's the hip one. So he's the
- 19:56Speaker 3: one who mentions Bigfoot.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Later, he sure does.
- 20:00Speaker 3: That's that was like whit. At the very end, he's like,
- 20:05Speaker 3: just think they're lying to us about aliens or bigfoot
- 20:08Speaker 3: or all these things people see and facts, you know, sure, yeah, totally.
- 20:15Speaker 1: He talks about how there were a whole bunch of
- 20:17Speaker 1: other sightings in the years shortly following Roswell, and that's true,
- 20:22Speaker 1: and again that you can find in those CIA files
- 20:26Speaker 1: if you find that episode or those episodes we did.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I linked to all of the files. They are dry,
- 20:33Speaker 1: but go read them if you don't believe me.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's government documents from the nineteen fifties.
- 20:40Speaker 3: It's not scintillating.
- 20:42Speaker 1: So Jesse Peak comes back to talk about a woman
- 20:47Speaker 1: who claims she was abducted by aliens and had weird
- 20:50Speaker 1: marks on her body, and once again he talks at length,
- 20:54Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is the point of this. It's
- 20:57Speaker 1: that sometimes aliens put implants people's bodies.
- 21:01Speaker 3: Yeah. That was one of the things that I found
- 21:04Speaker 3: actively irresponsible about this documentary is that his description of
- 21:09Speaker 3: this phenomenon is so close to clinical descriptions of paradoid
- 21:16Speaker 3: schizophrenia and things that people like hallucinate having in their
- 21:20Speaker 3: bodies and can cause physical harm to themselves trying to remove.
- 21:25Speaker 3: And it really sounds like this guy is like trying
- 21:30Speaker 3: to push mentally ill people to hurt themselves. Like it's
- 21:35Speaker 3: really irresponsible. The way that he frames all, it's hard
- 21:37Speaker 3: to really describe it. He just frames it in such
- 21:40Speaker 3: a way where it's like, you're gonna make somebody kill themselves.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's weird that I have so much expertise
- 21:49Speaker 1: in this area now but having a needle currently still
- 21:54Speaker 1: lodged in my jaw. He talks about this thing where, oh,
- 21:59Speaker 1: in these devices, they grow a membrane around him and
- 22:02Speaker 1: he acts like that is something that is tied to
- 22:06Speaker 1: these devices. Specifically, that's scar tissue. The thing that's in
- 22:10Speaker 1: my jaw might not be able to be taken out
- 22:12Speaker 1: for six to eight weeks, and the reason for that
- 22:15Speaker 1: is because in that time it will develop scar tissue
- 22:19Speaker 1: around it, which will make it easier to remove. It's
- 22:22Speaker 1: not a membrane that allows the device to speak to
- 22:27Speaker 1: the aliens better. It's just if you have something in
- 22:31Speaker 1: your body like that, it's going to grow scar tissue
- 22:33Speaker 1: around it. Right, thought, it was really weird that he
- 22:36Speaker 1: described it the way he did.
- 22:39Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about, Like he made it sound organic,
- 22:42Speaker 3: and that is fucking dangerous. If you look at your
- 22:47Speaker 3: body enough and you're like, you know, in a certain mindset,
- 22:51Speaker 3: it's easy to find weird anomalies and bumps and divots
- 22:58Speaker 3: and things. And if you're of the right mindset, it's
- 23:01Speaker 3: or if you're being pushed in that direction, you can
- 23:04Speaker 3: very easily go to crazy lengths. Yeah, crazy, but you
- 23:08Speaker 3: know what I.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Mean, Yeah, yeah. Richard Dodi also talks about how he
- 23:13Speaker 1: was assigned to Area fifty one in nineteen eighty four.
- 23:16Speaker 3: Well, no, excuse me, the Groom Lake complex.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Sure, sure, like which we have come to call Area fifty.
- 23:22Speaker 3: One, right, the civilians know it is Area fifty one,
- 23:26Speaker 3: but we called it the Groom Lake Complex.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Right right. He talks about seeing an alien on a
- 23:34Speaker 1: video screen that was what.
- 23:37Speaker 3: When you didn't say what he calls them? Oh, the
- 23:40Speaker 3: entire movie?
- 23:41Speaker 1: Right, what does he call it?
- 23:43Speaker 3: He calls them ets the whole time?
- 23:45Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Which I thought was very funny.
- 23:49Speaker 1: He talks about seeing an ET on a video screen
- 23:54Speaker 1: and that it was about to be interviewed. Yes, and
- 23:59Speaker 1: none of his already makes sense in the context of
- 24:02Speaker 1: this documentary. For one thing, he says that he witnessed
- 24:07Speaker 1: about seven to ten minutes of it, and that they
- 24:10Speaker 1: weren't so much talking to this alien as they were
- 24:15Speaker 1: doing a thought transfer like what we would probably call telepathy. Right,
- 24:21Speaker 1: So what the fuck was how was he? How was
- 24:24Speaker 1: he hearing what they were talking about?
- 24:26Speaker 3: You know, that's an excellent question.
- 24:31Speaker 1: And also with the way we've heard Roswell witnesses treated
- 24:37Speaker 1: up to this point, I think the ramifications of someone
- 24:40Speaker 1: walking in and realizing Richard Dody was in the room
- 24:43Speaker 1: without having the proper clearance, yeah, would have been more
- 24:47Speaker 1: than just them going get get out of here.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Hey, you're not just supposed to see the alien. Get
- 24:52Speaker 3: out of here.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have fed him to that alien. There
- 24:56Speaker 1: is no way they would have let that stand if
- 24:59Speaker 1: everything else they've said about how they treat witnesses to
- 25:03Speaker 1: shit like this is true.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Whoa. But of course, you know, Richard Dodi is a
- 25:08Speaker 3: god among men, and so he was. They recognized his
- 25:11Speaker 3: potential and allowed him to remain alive and then get
- 25:16Speaker 3: even more information about the aliens that he could then
- 25:19Speaker 3: tell all of the public exactly.
- 25:22Speaker 1: It's like, man, they would have put you down right
- 25:24Speaker 1: on the track like a fucking racehorse with a broken leg.
- 25:27Speaker 3: You wouldn't have even known you'd be at the pearly
- 25:30Speaker 3: gates before you even realized what happened. Yeah, you're like,
- 25:35Speaker 3: oh wait.
- 25:36Speaker 1: Were floating above the scene, like, what the fuck is
- 25:39Speaker 1: happening to me?
- 25:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:41Speaker 1: They bring back John Ramirez, the CIA guy, and he
- 25:45Speaker 1: somehow makes a five minute monologue about finding unidentified orbs
- 25:51Speaker 1: on a radar screen, the most brutally dull stretch of
- 25:56Speaker 1: dialogue in the entire documentary.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awful, But I did like how there
- 26:02Speaker 3: is this where he's like you know, people wonder why
- 26:05Speaker 3: we always see these in uh, why we only have
- 26:08Speaker 3: footage from Russian airspace? You know, why is it? Why
- 26:12Speaker 3: are we just why we just have footage through Russian airspace? Well,
- 26:16Speaker 3: and it's because obviously America has a policy where we
- 26:21Speaker 3: do not. The CIA does not spy on America on
- 26:27Speaker 3: American soil. Yeah, we are a foreign focused operations like
- 26:32Speaker 3: uh huh, yeah, totally. It's like, I believe you, buddy.
- 26:36Speaker 1: But we also have seventeen intelligence agencies. Just give us
- 26:39Speaker 1: the footage from the one that does spy sure on
- 26:43Speaker 1: the skies above the United States. Yeah, they don't the
- 26:47Speaker 1: footage or.
- 26:48Speaker 3: The right They say that because they don't need to. Yeah, exactly,
- 26:53Speaker 3: like even though they probably still do anyway. Right, I'm sorry,
- 26:58Speaker 3: I'll never believe a single think the sky says, because
- 27:03Speaker 3: that is the biggest budget bullshit I've ever heard.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Even bigger bullshit than Eric Mintel coming back to tell us,
- 27:09Speaker 1: see and his girlfriend also saw five orange orbs in
- 27:13Speaker 1: the sky. Here's what I hate about his story is
- 27:17Speaker 1: he says it happened while they were driving, so he
- 27:19Speaker 1: had to like fumble for his camera and like of
- 27:23Speaker 1: course his flash. Oh yeah, hit the hit the side
- 27:26Speaker 1: of the window. You are a paranormal investigator seeing UFOs
- 27:32Speaker 1: for the first time, but you're also like this buffalo
- 27:35Speaker 1: wild wings ain't gonna eat itself. I got we gotta
- 27:38Speaker 1: keep moving. Take get what pictures you can get.
- 27:41Speaker 3: But oh hi, hey, make sure you get a pick
- 27:44Speaker 3: of the of the of the UFO, the concrete proof
- 27:47Speaker 3: of the UFO at the window where I can't.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Pull over, and I swear. He says his girlfriend was
- 27:54Speaker 1: driving so she saw it better. It's like, what, yeah,
- 27:57Speaker 1: what do you mean? It's like, stop your car and
- 28:00Speaker 1: take the picture.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Right, And also, I mean even beyond all that, which
- 28:05Speaker 3: is absurd.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Uh.
- 28:08Speaker 3: He also just like sauce of fucking lights in the sky,
- 28:11Speaker 3: like who gives up fucking shit, Like it's just lights,
- 28:14Speaker 3: Like we weren't past lights. Now we've got thermal imaging
- 28:18Speaker 3: and shit, yeah.
- 28:19Speaker 1: We've got those navy videos, especially the one that is
- 28:22Speaker 1: like flying right above the surface of the water and
- 28:24Speaker 1: keeps going down and then coming back up.
- 28:27Speaker 3: That's changing orientation.
- 28:29Speaker 1: That's way cooler than lights. Bub sorry, oh.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Yeah, and is still probably a drone or something like So.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Then Richard Dody, after just telling us all of this
- 28:39Speaker 1: highly believable information about Area fifty one where the Groom
- 28:43Speaker 1: Lake facility. Now he comes back and says, yeah, also,
- 28:47Speaker 1: but my job was the thing that there's a whole
- 28:50Speaker 1: documentary about where I just lie to Rubes like you
- 28:54Speaker 1: about UFO information like this, just like Amazon makes his
- 28:59Speaker 1: job so much easier because think about how we found
- 29:02Speaker 1: this documentary. Yeah, it just fucking stumbled upon it. Yeah,
- 29:06Speaker 1: it was just there and a more impressionable audience might
- 29:10Speaker 1: stumble upon it and be like, oh, finally I found
- 29:12Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah, And then he.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Just oh finally I found some content. Yeah.
- 29:18Speaker 1: But then here comes Richard Dody in this time he's like, yeah,
- 29:22Speaker 1: but also like we set up a whole program where
- 29:25Speaker 1: we would just go out and lie to people about
- 29:28Speaker 1: stuff like this and give him information.
- 29:30Speaker 3: The documentary kind of it should want to be about that.
- 29:34Speaker 3: That's yes, I guess that's what I thought maybe the
- 29:37Speaker 3: documentary would be about specifically. But it seems like like
- 29:43Speaker 3: it's very difficult to get the point of view from
- 29:44Speaker 3: this documentary because it's not particularly well made. But it
- 29:48Speaker 3: does feel like it was it. Like I said, it
- 29:50Speaker 3: feels like it was financed by Moufon, like it feels
- 29:53Speaker 3: like it's made by hardcore UFO believers, in which case
- 29:58Speaker 3: I don't understand putting Richard Doty in here to fucking
- 30:03Speaker 3: to your face say that we're lying to you.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very confusing, and toward the end it really
- 30:12Speaker 1: starts to take a creepy turn for me. But again,
- 30:15Speaker 1: you got to put your conspiracy theory hat on for it.
- 30:18Speaker 3: There is.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Well, first let's talk about Eric Mantel. He comes back
- 30:23Speaker 1: again and just kind of unprovoked and without any actual
- 30:29Speaker 1: evidence or proof of any any sort, not really any
- 30:33Speaker 1: follow up. He just says that when Bill Clinton took off,
- 30:36Speaker 1: as he found out there was a government within a government. Yeah,
- 30:39Speaker 1: and then we just breeze on past that, as if
- 30:43Speaker 1: he didn't just like kind of dog whistle deep State
- 30:46Speaker 1: into this documentary.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Yes, it's one of the many things that this documentary
- 30:51Speaker 3: just kind of brushes past. It's because it only has
- 30:55Speaker 3: surface level. It's only surface level for everything except for
- 30:59Speaker 3: this bullshit Area fifty one stuff.
- 31:01Speaker 1: And then he talks about another UFO sighting where the
- 31:05Speaker 1: aliens are described as looking very different from the usual grays.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Uh huh, how so?
- 31:12Speaker 1: And boy did my skin crawl a little when he
- 31:15Speaker 1: said they have big noses, and it's like, okay.
- 31:20Speaker 3: And then they should have drawing. That was interesting. That's
- 31:22Speaker 3: an interesting artist's depiction.
- 31:25Speaker 1: It's like, but we're not going to start talking about
- 31:26Speaker 1: bloodlines here at any point, are we?
- 31:29Speaker 3: Oh? No, absolutely, boy are we? And this guy some
- 31:34Speaker 3: weird na stuff.
- 31:36Speaker 1: This guy will not stop saying, what is it? That's
- 31:39Speaker 1: the real mystery? What are they? That's the real mystery.
- 31:42Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, man, we know, we know what we're
- 31:44Speaker 1: sure here to try and find out.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Yeah, congrats, that's that's what. Wow? What uh? You've really
- 31:51Speaker 3: found the truth of it here? What is it? That's
- 31:55Speaker 3: that's what we're looking for.
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- 33:17Speaker 1: the show. And then Richard Dody, out of Nowhere, talks
- 33:24Speaker 1: about how at one point doctors came up with a
- 33:28Speaker 1: device that they just implanted in this alien's throw so
- 33:33Speaker 1: that we could understand what it was saying. It would
- 33:36Speaker 1: just translate.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Well, to be fair to Richard Dody.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Of course, I want nothing less what.
- 33:43Speaker 3: He actually what it was was his mouth and vocal
- 33:48Speaker 3: cords were not physically capable of making the noises to
- 33:54Speaker 3: shape our words. And that's what the doctor's surgically. I
- 33:59Speaker 3: guess altered somehow. I don't that part. I mean it's
- 34:03Speaker 3: not like I know, like this is bold, like it's
- 34:05Speaker 3: this nonsense. But I think it's more like it just
- 34:08Speaker 3: he could already he understood and could speak English. He
- 34:11Speaker 3: just couldn't physically speak English. And was he They specify
- 34:17Speaker 3: this alien was a male.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Oh yeah, alien liked football. Yeah yeah, but also why
- 34:24Speaker 1: do they need that with all the thought transfer stuff?
- 34:27Speaker 1: That seems yeah, it seems like beating a dead horse
- 34:31Speaker 1: a little bit, right.
- 34:33Speaker 3: Yeah, the alien's like, wait, I evolved past the need
- 34:37Speaker 3: for Wait, stop, I don't eat this.
- 34:41Speaker 1: He says that this alien promised to tell us some
- 34:44Speaker 1: similarities between his planet and ours, and I thought, well,
- 34:48Speaker 1: that sounds interesting. Let's let's hear those similarities. And instead
- 34:52Speaker 1: of telling us those similarities, they just play a snippet
- 34:55Speaker 1: of what sounds like Royalty free Pink Floyd music. There's
- 35:00Speaker 1: some bitch and imagery of a couple of planets, and
- 35:03Speaker 1: then yeah, where those we're done. There's no, we don't
- 35:07Speaker 1: find out any of those similarities. That's fine, fine.
- 35:10Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it gets like, oh, you have
- 35:13Speaker 3: liquid water and breathable atmosphere fucking blah blah.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Course, another part that struck me as a little concerning.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Jesse Peake comes back the move on guy's in uniform
- 35:28Speaker 1: the whole time. Mmmm, and he kind of hints that
- 35:33Speaker 1: there should be reparations m hmm for people who've been
- 35:39Speaker 1: contacted by aliens. Yes, And I'm like, yes, well that
- 35:46Speaker 1: is that is a claim I have never heard presented
- 35:49Speaker 1: in my entire life.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first for me.
- 35:53Speaker 1: To a cart before the horse there.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Yeah, we're totally going to give reparations to the UFO
- 36:05Speaker 3: abductees when we have not given reparations to the people
- 36:11Speaker 3: who we know have actually existed and have gone through
- 36:17Speaker 3: awful things because of us.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Well, I mean this all started so much earlier because
- 36:24Speaker 1: of the time travel aspect, so.
- 36:27Speaker 3: Right of course, Well yeah, naturally, Yeah, So I just
- 36:31Speaker 3: I mean it goes back to Jesus.
- 36:33Speaker 1: It does. And that's the thing. Yeah, Jesse Peake talks
- 36:36Speaker 1: about how it would ruin religion if we found out
- 36:40Speaker 1: about aliens, which I still maintain is bullshit.
- 36:43Speaker 3: It's absolutely bullshit. Interesting things would happen to religion, especially
- 36:49Speaker 3: like the fundamentalist Christians and things think about the world
- 36:52Speaker 3: like it would change things about religion, but it's never
- 36:55Speaker 3: going to ruin, Like it'll just change things. Yeah, there'll
- 36:59Speaker 3: still be religion.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Where this documentary gets concerning to me, I mean it
- 37:03Speaker 1: already is, but yeah, I mentioned you gotta put your
- 37:07Speaker 1: conspiracy hat on for it to really sound alarming. But
- 37:12Speaker 1: one of the biggest conspiracy theories regarding the American government
- 37:17Speaker 1: and UFOs since Roswell happened again. It's what Donald Keho
- 37:23Speaker 1: was so worried about in those files, is that at
- 37:26Speaker 1: some point the intelligence community specifically is going to pull
- 37:32Speaker 1: this false flag alien invasion, yeah, where an image is
- 37:38Speaker 1: projected in the sky that basically tells everyone that everything
- 37:43Speaker 1: they know about religion is wrong and this is the truth,
- 37:49Speaker 1: and that it's just gonna be a means to like
- 37:53Speaker 1: really bring fascism into the world. And there's also that
- 37:58Speaker 1: rumor or myth of about Werner von Braun on his deathbed. Yeah,
- 38:03Speaker 1: he is alleged to have claimed that, well, communists are
- 38:07Speaker 1: gonna be the first way that fascism is introduced, and
- 38:11Speaker 1: then it's gonna be like like yeah, exactly, and then
- 38:15Speaker 1: it's I did.
- 38:17Speaker 3: I did like that they named paper clips?
- 38:18Speaker 1: Sorry, just and then it's gonna be like terrorism. And
- 38:22Speaker 1: then he said aliens are gonna be what really ushers
- 38:27Speaker 1: fascism in like in a global way. And that quote
- 38:32Speaker 1: and that conspiracy theory have always been kind of tied
- 38:35Speaker 1: together in that Like in this documentary the end, it
- 38:40Speaker 1: starts going in some really terrifying places. It's weird if
- 38:46Speaker 1: what Werner von Braun said was true, like because they
- 38:50Speaker 1: start getting into like DNA and how there are enhanced
- 38:55Speaker 1: humans who are alien hybrids and it's.
- 39:00Speaker 3: All they're just like, they look just like us.
- 39:03Speaker 1: It's John Ramirez who talks about that the most. And
- 39:06Speaker 1: the thing is, throughout the documentary he's the one who
- 39:09Speaker 1: seemed the most level headed, Like he's the one who says, well,
- 39:12Speaker 1: we don't spy over the skies in the United States.
- 39:15Speaker 1: Like he's the one who seems like he's been debunking shit.
- 39:19Speaker 1: And then he swoops in at the end and is like, look,
- 39:22Speaker 1: aliens have human DNA and alien DNA is in some humans.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Actually he says all humans have alien DNA, but that
- 39:33Speaker 1: we are a little more enhanced.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Right, It's like it's the like it's it's Prometheus, it's
- 39:42Speaker 3: you know, like aliens came and seated our planet or something,
- 39:46Speaker 3: or or the same alien seeded our planet as the
- 39:48Speaker 3: Rosbelis and whatever.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And that is a talking point that could
- 39:54Speaker 1: turn so terrifying if there was at some point some
- 40:00Speaker 1: sort of arrival of aliens and they're like, look, we've
- 40:03Speaker 1: been here forever and we've been up in your women
- 40:07Speaker 1: enhancing their wounds, and shit.
- 40:11Speaker 3: The enhanced thing isn't that. I think the enhanced thing
- 40:16Speaker 3: is literally the plot of the TV show Roswell, which
- 40:20Speaker 3: we've invoked a few times on this show. I think
- 40:23Speaker 3: that show is about people from Roswell who are like
- 40:26Speaker 3: half alien or something. I never watched. I only saw
- 40:29Speaker 3: like ads.
- 40:30Speaker 1: So yeah, and Richard Doty talks about a captured hybrid
- 40:36Speaker 1: who was a male but he'd been bred in a
- 40:39Speaker 1: tube at a facility. That quote he later found out about, Yeah,
- 40:44Speaker 1: what do you mean? We later found what?
- 40:46Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
- 40:47Speaker 1: It was very vague, and they're really saying some terrifying shit.
- 40:51Speaker 1: It's weird, especially when you pair it with reparations, like
- 40:56Speaker 1: how are you gonna decide who gets the reparations? That
- 41:00Speaker 1: sounds like it's gonna involve a massive amount of like
- 41:03Speaker 1: DNA testing and just well getting everyone's stuff on file,
- 41:08Speaker 1: and then you figure out who the enhanced humans are
- 41:11Speaker 1: and then what because well, the history of every movie
- 41:15Speaker 1: I've ever watched tells me society does not treat the
- 41:19Speaker 1: enhanced humans well either, right.
- 41:22Speaker 3: I mean, yes, that naturally came away. It was so weird.
- 41:26Speaker 3: It felt like they were almost talking about the X Men.
- 41:29Speaker 3: You're looking about the being enhanced. It was so strange.
- 41:31Speaker 3: But like Jesse peak was when he was talking about reparations,
- 41:35Speaker 3: like he just seems like an idiot, Like I just
- 41:39Speaker 3: don't think that he thought about what that would mean,
- 41:42Speaker 3: like how that would impact the real world. Because again
- 41:46Speaker 3: he's the guy who's in the Oklahoma National Guard. It
- 41:48Speaker 3: thinks he's a fucking expert on all things military because
- 41:51Speaker 3: of that. So yeah, I don't know, But like the
- 41:54Speaker 3: enhanced human stuff is all fucking weird. There is a
- 41:58Speaker 3: clear path to genocide, weirder genocide than the ones that
- 42:03Speaker 3: we already get.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Yeah, the weirdest genocide.
- 42:07Speaker 3: Like a political jenocide, well we get those, but like
- 42:11Speaker 3: there's just never there nothing like this plan, this, this
- 42:16Speaker 3: idea has ever happened in this way, you know what
- 42:20Speaker 3: I mean. Like, so I don't know, it would be
- 42:23Speaker 3: very strange. I don't think it will happen, but I
- 42:26Speaker 3: do think it's scary that people are like kind of
- 42:31Speaker 3: pushing the prologue to it forward as like a real thing. Yea,
- 42:35Speaker 3: this enhanced human shit.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that part quite alarming.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird.
- 42:41Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess at the end of the day,
- 42:43Speaker 1: I'm wrong. This does turn into like, you know, that's
- 42:46Speaker 1: where it's gonna go, Like that enhances the big nose.
- 42:52Speaker 1: It's gonna be like those are the Jews. Yeah, those
- 42:55Speaker 1: are the jew aliens and we need to read them
- 42:58Speaker 1: out and get them out of society. Sorry.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Yeah, but also and yeah, there is like ancient alien
- 43:05Speaker 3: stuff too, as of course, because again this is such
- 43:08Speaker 3: a shotgun documentary, there's just so much things covered, all
- 43:13Speaker 3: like very surface level. Yeah, so you get the time
- 43:16Speaker 3: traveler thing.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they bring that up, and that again, like we
- 43:22Speaker 1: just talked about the h what was it, the Thule Society. No,
- 43:28Speaker 1: that was one of the precursors to the Nazi Party,
- 43:31Speaker 1: But we just talked about the Nazis putting together this
- 43:35Speaker 1: research group after they took power that was meant to
- 43:40Speaker 1: go back and see you know what was aryan influence
- 43:44Speaker 1: on other cultures and they just magically came away from
- 43:47Speaker 1: it saying, well, all cultures Aryans were there at every
- 43:52Speaker 1: step of the way. And it's like, well, that's crazy
- 43:54Speaker 1: because black people are so much older than white people
- 43:57Speaker 1: in history.
- 43:58Speaker 3: Well, an arian didn't always white like.
- 44:02Speaker 1: And the obvious answer to how that could possibly be is, well,
- 44:06Speaker 1: time travel, right, It's it's time travel. So yeah, it
- 44:09Speaker 1: seemed like all these cultures that predated Arians did ship,
- 44:14Speaker 1: but actually we figured out time travel and we went
- 44:16Speaker 1: back and figured out forum. And also, you should probably
- 44:21Speaker 1: run some DNA tests on your people because some of
- 44:23Speaker 1: them have alien DNA.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Oh, you know, we should do a we should do
- 44:29Speaker 3: a series on that new Netflix show Ancient. I think
- 44:33Speaker 3: it's called Ancient Armageddon. Oh, and it's about like the
- 44:38Speaker 3: idea that there was a advanced civilization, like you know,
- 44:44Speaker 3: it's that it's yeah, what you're talking about, but it's
- 44:47Speaker 3: on Netflix. It's like very so I don't know, it
- 44:49Speaker 3: might be funny, but yeah.
- 44:54Speaker 1: We've hit the end of this episode. This. Yeah, I
- 44:57Speaker 1: don't recommend this documentary. I think this documentary is actually
- 45:00Speaker 1: a little alarming, and I am uncomfortable with the sources
- 45:06Speaker 1: like where it's coming from the message it's delivering, Like, yeah,
- 45:11Speaker 1: it feels if nothing else, it feels like they're kind
- 45:15Speaker 1: of it's the government kind of prodding at those people
- 45:18Speaker 1: who believe that someday the government is going to conduct
- 45:21Speaker 1: a false flag, like when George Bush said new World
- 45:25Speaker 1: Order in one of his early presidential speeches and the
- 45:29Speaker 1: entire white nationalist community was like, huh what, oh, hello,
- 45:33Speaker 1: who crazy? So either way, yeah, this documentary's nuts.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Well yeah, and like unlike some of the other ones
- 45:41Speaker 3: that we've talked about, you have you actually have to
- 45:42Speaker 3: like pay money to rent this thing, and it's definitely
- 45:45Speaker 3: not worth that.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that. Uh, but I think
- 45:48Speaker 1: that's our episode. Do we have anything to plug by
- 45:53Speaker 1: the time this goes up the I don't think the
- 45:55Speaker 1: conspiracy shirts will still be for sale, but if they
- 45:57Speaker 1: are on pops dot co, slash shop, get yourself a shirt.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Uh?
- 46:03Speaker 1: And uh, also, you already know going back our Lost
- 46:06Speaker 1: Rewatch podcast, there's going to be a new episode this
- 46:09Speaker 1: damn week, So you got two bonus episodes coming your
- 46:14Speaker 1: way people. Uh, yeah, anything else? Do we have anything
- 46:17Speaker 1: else to plug? And I don't and I don't. Let's
- 46:21Speaker 1: get out of here. Olivia say goodbye, bye, goodbye everybody.
- 46:25Speaker 1: We love you people you're trying.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Disaster