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NFL Approves New Professional Flag Football League · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Sports Exchange. My name is
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  Speaker 2: Tom Morgan of Motor City Mad Mouse. Glad to have
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  Speaker 2: our excellent crew here tonight consisting of Cliff Neal. Glad
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  Speaker 2: to have you back on, Cliff.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: And we have John in the house. Glad Mr. Hopkins
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  Speaker 2: is feeling better.
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  Speaker 4: Not feeling much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's great, I'll tell you. I got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great pickups this year, and three of them
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  Speaker 2: are right on the street. We have Lucas, fresh off
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  Speaker 2: our little one-on-one interview within the show about Double D. Okay, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: good to have him. He shines every week, but last week,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, he just stands out a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: And again, you shoot the man who lives in a
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  Speaker 2: penal colony, so he must stand out there. Okay, Candy,
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  Speaker 2: you have links? There you have it. All right, let's
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  Speaker 2: get this party started. Okay. He was fined $ 10, 000 for
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  Speaker 2: calling his wife, a man named Troy Palomaro. Okay, why
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  Speaker 2: did he do that? He was fined $ 10, 000 for calling
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  Speaker 2: his wife during a game to let her know he
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  Speaker 2: was okay after leaving a 2011 game with concussion-like symptoms.
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  Speaker 2: Palomaro used his phone on the sideline to reassure his wife.
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  Speaker 2: He got the NFL fined him for violating its sideline rules.
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  Speaker 2: phone act. That was shallow, stupid, and I'm not agreeing
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  Speaker 2: with it. What about you, Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Cliff?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I know that in the past they've
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  Speaker 3: had shenanigans. I remember when Joe Horn, like, he, like,
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  Speaker 3: got a touchdown, he pulled it out of the, like, the,
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  Speaker 3: I think he had it stashed somewhere, like, in the
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  Speaker 3: goalposts or something, the padding there, something like that. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's what they were thinking of, but that was
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  Speaker 3: totally not the what he was doing. He wasn't showboating. He,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he was, he was, he was scared that
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  Speaker 3: he was, uh, you know, everyone thought he was going
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  Speaker 3: to have a horrible concussion. And, um, he was just
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  Speaker 3: telling his wife, Hey, you know, I'm, I'm okay. I
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  Speaker 3: know there's rules, uh, with that. Sometimes you have to be, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's the, the guy, especially with all the
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  Speaker 3: CTE and all the problems with all that it's, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, it's, it's a quick, it's a quick call. Say, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay. Don't worry about it. And, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: not like he was showboating. It's not like he was
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  Speaker 3: doing something wrong. He was just letting his wife know
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be okay. Don't worry about me.
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  Speaker 2: John?
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  Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. You know, but the one
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  Speaker 4: thing to remember, you know, we think about CTE now.
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  Speaker 4: And 15 years ago, CTE is not something that the
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  Speaker 4: NFL or any sport would acknowledge. Nothing's made up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: doesn't exist, no such thing. And, uh, you know, they
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  Speaker 4: are conscious about the gambling. They are conscious about some
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  Speaker 4: of the other shenanigans. Somebody pulls a phone out for
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown and takes a selfie. And I mean, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you would think that, you know, maybe a
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  Speaker 4: team doc or somebody on the sidelines, the trainer would
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  Speaker 4: have been able to have pulled out a phone and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, help him call his wife to say, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is what's going on. Um, It just
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  Speaker 4: seems to me that you're enforcing a rule for the
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  Speaker 4: sake of the rule and not looking at the person.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of tough.
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  Speaker 6: It's very trigger-happy on that point, just the NFL enforcing
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  Speaker 6: its rules, even though they look back and it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: you called your wife. Okay, we're not going to actually
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  Speaker 6: fine you.
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  Speaker 5: The amount that we're going to fine you, but it
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  Speaker 5: just– just the action in itself just says, you need
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  Speaker 5: to have some level of security within your family to say,
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  Speaker 5: I'm okay.
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  Speaker 6: And let me call my significant other to tell.
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  Speaker 2: Her that I am okay.
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  Speaker 5: And there needs to be some kind of guideline for that.
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  Speaker 6: Like you said, John, having the trainer have a phone
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  Speaker 6: and say, hey, your wife is on the phone.
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  Speaker 4: Or hey, we're asking.
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  Speaker 2: or.
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  Speaker 6: Having Troy tell the trainer, Hey, can you call my
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  Speaker 6: wife for me, please? And only trainers are allowed to
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  Speaker 6: make that call maybe. But then again, the gambling thing
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  Speaker 6: would come into conversations again with, with the phone being on,
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  Speaker 6: being on the field. So I can see it, but
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  Speaker 6: at the same time, there needs to be some kind
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  Speaker 6: of guideline that has some kind of family security with it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Katie.
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  Speaker 7: So, He was fined $ 10, 000. He didn't use his cell phone.
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  Speaker 7: He used the team's doctor's cell phone on the sideline
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  Speaker 7: to call his wife. The NFL rule is the NFL
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  Speaker 7: strictly prohibits players from possessing or using cell phones or
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  Speaker 7: other electronic devices in the bench area from 90 minutes
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  Speaker 7: before kickoff to the end of the game. He did
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  Speaker 7: end up appealing, and he did win. So he didn't
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  Speaker 7: have to pay the $ 10, 000. But it is a rule.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a rule, and I think it was a public
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  Speaker 2: relations situation that the NFL did not need, considering the
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  Speaker 2: nature of the situation. Let's go back on a hockey
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  Speaker 2: trade that took place about a year ago, because I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you, I paid big dividends on the team that
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  Speaker 2: ended up doing it. And I was going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that the Vegas Golden Knights signed– Carter Hart.
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  Speaker 2: I know at the time, Cliff, it was a controversial signing,
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  Speaker 2: but what are your thoughts about the trade as you
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  Speaker 2: look back on it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's, it's something that it was controversial
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  Speaker 3: because I mean, Carter Hart was with Philly all that
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  Speaker 3: time and he had some success and then he just
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  Speaker 3: had issues after that. And it was, it was just, they,
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  Speaker 3: they took a shot at him. I'm like, was there,
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  Speaker 3: that's the one spot they really always kind of like
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  Speaker 3: they had a hard time filling. They had Robin Leonard
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  Speaker 3: for a year. And, yeah, they had Fleury. But since then,
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  Speaker 3: it was just like, who are we going to have?
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  Speaker 3: Who are we going to put in there? Because they had, like,
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  Speaker 3: everything else. Everything else, the defense, forwards, they were good.
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  Speaker 3: And Carter Hart, at one time, was this big old
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  Speaker 3: superstar on the horizon. He had a little bit of success.
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  Speaker 3: But then it just kind of fell apart. So they
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  Speaker 3: took a shot. And, you know, and then he's done
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  Speaker 3: pretty good for them. Actually, he's done pretty good for
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  Speaker 3: them since then. So I think it has worked out
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  Speaker 3: for them as an organization. I liked him when he
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  Speaker 3: was coming out. I'm glad he's having some success again
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  Speaker 3: with them. And the fact, I mean, Vegas is as
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  Speaker 3: good as they are, not being in the league all
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  Speaker 3: that long. That just tells you that they're really good
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  Speaker 3: at finding, putting a good team together and putting the
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  Speaker 3: right chemistry of guys together. Because year in and year out,
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  Speaker 3: most times, they're competing. Carter Hart is just one of
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  Speaker 3: those guys who seems to have gotten done pretty well
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  Speaker 3: there for them.
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  Speaker 2: For a start, Philadelphia Flyers gave up on him. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, Johnny.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's the one thing that Vegas has done well
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  Speaker 4: since they started in the NHL is they understood chemistry,
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  Speaker 4: you know, how to put players together to be better than,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can add a player, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: got a winger and you got a center and you
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  Speaker 4: got a defenseman, you got a goalie. And they add
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  Speaker 4: up into a sum that's greater than just each individual piece.
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  Speaker 4: When they got Marc-Andre Fleury, I mean, you know, Mark had,
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  Speaker 4: you know, everybody thought he was on the downside of
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  Speaker 4: his career and he got them to the Stanley cup
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  Speaker 4: finals that very first year. Um, and sometimes goalies need
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  Speaker 4: a change of scenery. You know, I look at some
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  Speaker 4: of them, you know, we just had a big trade
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  Speaker 4: with Connor Hellebuck. I don't know what he's going to
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  Speaker 4: do in Jersey, but, uh, my God, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of good pieces around him there. Uh, You look at
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  Speaker 4: some of the other, you know, God, my caps could
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  Speaker 4: sure use somebody that could stop a puck after last night.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: You know, four goals in about no minutes. And we
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  Speaker 4: still wound up. We almost won. We wound up losing
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  Speaker 4: six to five. But coming back from a four-nothing deficit,
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  Speaker 4: if we could have had somebody that could have stopped
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  Speaker 4: a couple of pucks in the earlier part of the game.
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe we could have pulled it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: won a game.
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  Speaker 2: So, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I hope he does well, except when he plays
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  Speaker 4: the caps.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you call a capital noble answer. Unintended, John. Okay. Lucas. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Scott is definitely a promoter right now. He's
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  Speaker 6: able to put back on the allocation that are thrown
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  Speaker 6: at him. He's able to steer forward at top level.
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  Speaker 6: He's still playing.
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  Speaker 4: He's not in those.
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  Speaker 6: Games until he performs on the ice. So, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, he is from.
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  Speaker 6: He was born in Alberta, Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously....
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  Speaker 7: He's with the Vegas Golden Knights. He was drafted in
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  Speaker 7: 2016 to the Philadelphia Flyers. He was on December 18, 2018.
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  Speaker 7: He became the youngest goaltender in Flyers history to win
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  Speaker 7: his NHL debut. And in 2020, he became the youngest
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  Speaker 7: Flyers goaltender to win a postseason game. He has played,
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  Speaker 7: he has represented Canada in several international tournaments. But, you know,
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  Speaker 7: he's earned a number of different awards. The Everett Singletips
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  Speaker 7: Rookie of the Year, Dell Wilson Trophy, the CHL Goaltender
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  Speaker 7: of the Year, Rookie of the Month, Second Star of
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  Speaker 7: the Week. He signed with the Vegas Knights. two-year contract.
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  Speaker 7: Kudos to him. Vegas has had some success. Who would
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  Speaker 7: have thought so early on, so quickly, they would have
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  Speaker 7: had the success that they did?
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  Speaker 2: They're an amazing franchise. They pick up everybody's table scraps
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  Speaker 2: and they do a lot with them. Anybody familiar with
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  Speaker 2: this better than John would like to know who it is.
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  Speaker 2: Dexter has obviously attributed former Padres manager Mike Schultz as
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  Speaker 2: to why he stepped down from the position. We go
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  Speaker 2: over a couple of things and then I'll go to
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  Speaker 2: you first, John, and then we'll go around from there.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously when you have death threats, that's forces the guy
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  Speaker 2: to retire a little bit quicker. So what are your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts about the exit of Mike Schilt and what he
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  Speaker 2: did for the San Diego Padres?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know what that man did so much with, uh,
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  Speaker 4: a pretty full, uh, I'm going to say it's a
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  Speaker 4: challenging position because, uh, You've got a couple of head
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  Speaker 4: cases there. Manny Machado, the guy's got more talent in
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  Speaker 4: the world, but, you know, he's probably the most uncoachable
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  Speaker 4: athlete in major league sports. You know, they've tried to
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  Speaker 4: go into analytics and he's pushed back and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he'll tell, you know, one of his big quotes is, hey,
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  Speaker 4: look at the back of my baseball card. Well, I
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  Speaker 4: think this year the back of his baseball card said
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  Speaker 4: below 200. You know, he's got that Fernando Tatis, immense talent. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's some issues there. Xander Bogarts. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you've got a team. You know, I wonder if it
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  Speaker 4: was internal, you know, almost the time because I've lived
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  Speaker 4: in San Diego. That is the most frequent. You're living
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  Speaker 4: in a town with three million of your best friends.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't met most of them yet. That's probably the
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  Speaker 4: most easy, agreeable city on the face of the earth.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand the death threats. I know the Padres
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  Speaker 4: fans were very disappointed to lose him.
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  Speaker 2: Were they? Yeah, see, that's why I brought this up, John,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't understand that they're only game in town.
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  Speaker 2: This guy seems like a heck of a baseball line.
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  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he suddenly stepped down. That's just
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  Speaker 2: too weird.
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  Speaker 4: The only death threats that I could think of would
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  Speaker 4: be Cardinal fans who were disappointed that he left St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis. Right. Well, good point. I'm sure there's something on that, too.
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  Speaker 2: Great point. Thanks for providing some insight. All right, Cliff,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I looked up some stuff on that, and it
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  Speaker 3: said it might have been death threats from people from
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  Speaker 3: the gambling world. Might have gambling issues with him or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he had anything to do with it,
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  Speaker 3: but people who might have lost money by their betting
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  Speaker 3: for or against or whatever. That's where maybe those threats
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  Speaker 3: were coming from. Plus the stress of doing what he
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  Speaker 3: was doing there. He was having all sorts of health issues, too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I saw something about his floofing
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  Speaker 3: hair and he was like always stressed. He wasn't sleeping. And,
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  Speaker 3: and part of it, he just kind of left. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I don't care if I have a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years on my contract. It's not worth, you know,
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  Speaker 3: dying over. So it's like, it's, so it's, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you just got to do that. You know, he
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  Speaker 3: can love the game. He can love your job. But if,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you get literally getting death threats and you're
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  Speaker 3: just feeling horrible and it's like, fooling a toll on you,
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  Speaker 3: no job is worth that ultimate price.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: So it's, you know, I said, I can't, I can't
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  Speaker 3: blame him for, you know, it's like, all right, I
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  Speaker 3: just got, I just got to get away. This is
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  Speaker 3: not worth that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Lucas. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He had a huge improvement after about Melvin left and
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  Speaker 6: went to the giants. I mean, to be able to
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  Speaker 6: combat Tatis and Machado, they're, their macho attitudes. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: and to kind of keep them maintain a little bit to,
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  Speaker 6: in order to get to the playoffs and to make, uh, um, Jackson, um,
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  Speaker 6: the way he is like that. That's great. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 6: Jake Cronenworth, um, bringing him up and making him the
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  Speaker 6: star that he is. I mean, that's, that's a shill product.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he didn't, he's not, um, he didn't, prospect him.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't bring him up as a, when he was,
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  Speaker 6: he was never a scout, but he didn't bring him up,
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  Speaker 6: but he's, he coached him in the majors. So that's,
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  Speaker 6: he's responsible for having such a good talent, making him
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  Speaker 6: the person he is, the player he is now. And that's,
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  Speaker 6: to me, that's a win for Schilt, but that's unfortunate
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  Speaker 6: that he's having death threats like that. That's, it couldn't,
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  Speaker 6: there's no way it could have came from Padre, like,
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  Speaker 6: dedicated Padres fan that cares truly deeply about the game.
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  Speaker 6: And there are good fans. There are good, loyal fans,
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  Speaker 6: I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, 82 sellouts this year, or 81 sellouts.
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  Speaker 2: Man, they sold every one out. Really?
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  Speaker 4: Every one.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: They have got this park behind center field with a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a hill on it, little baseball diamond,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Little League diamond. statue on one side of
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Hoffman, the other side, Tony Gwynn, and they fill
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  Speaker 4: that out. They sell probably about anywhere from seven to 8,000
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  Speaker 4: tickets for what they call Gallagher square out behind center field.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a heck of a place to see a ballpark.
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  Speaker 4: And the one thing, if you've been to Baltimore and
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  Speaker 4: you've been to the yards and you're going to feel
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  Speaker 4: like you're in the yards because it was designed by
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  Speaker 4: Larry Lucchino.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, I heard Petco Park's a heck of a place.
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  Speaker 2: I hear it is nice. And how they have that metal,
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  Speaker 2: the one metal.
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  Speaker 4: The Western Metal Supply Building. Yeah, that's a great place
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  Speaker 4: to watch the game from.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, Camden Yard, obviously, with the warehouse. And I
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  Speaker 2: only drove by because I saw Raven's game across the street.
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  Speaker 2: But when you see that they're able to resurrect old
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  Speaker 2: buildings and make them part of something like that, that
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  Speaker 2: is surreal. Great stuff. Okay, Candy.
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  Speaker 7: So Schilt and the Padres general manager, A.J. Preller, confirmed
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  Speaker 7: that Schilt was targeted with death threats late in the
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  Speaker 7: season from frustrated sports gamblers, the constant pressure, the online abuse,
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  Speaker 7: and hostility contributed to severe physical and and mental exhaustion,
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  Speaker 7: including poor sleep, hair loss, and chest pains. The situation
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  Speaker 7: sparked widespread discussion across baseball regarding the toxic intersection of
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  Speaker 7: legalized sports betting, online accountability, and fan harassment. There is
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  Speaker 7: a strong consensus among sports communities that that direct threats
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  Speaker 7: against team personnel have reached an unacceptable level. Is there
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  Speaker 7: any level that's acceptable when you're talking death threats? That
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  Speaker 7: shouldn't be part of the game at all. And he
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  Speaker 7: said that that played a major role in his decision
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  Speaker 7: to step down. And for that, I say that is sad.
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  Speaker 7: It's sad that it came to that. I can see
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  Speaker 7: how it came to that because people get into their sports,
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  Speaker 7: get into their betting, but it is sad because it
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  Speaker 7: should never affect the players, the coaches, the managers. But
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  Speaker 7: I can see where it does. And with social media
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  Speaker 7: and people are downright cruel on social media at times,
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  Speaker 7: it's despicable, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing about San Diego that you got to
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  Speaker 4: realize too is, and this is when I was a
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  Speaker 4: young sailor back in the day out there, how I
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  Speaker 4: drove home, they invented sports talk radio out there. My
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  Speaker 4: drive time, the people I listened to, Lee Hamilton, Chet Forty,
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  Speaker 4: Jim Rome, were all right next to each other on
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the same show on the way home. That's how, that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: what I got to listen to on the way home.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. I mean, again, we'll go back to what
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Irwin said. Mental health is serious stuff. And unfortunately Mike
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: had to deal with part of that to go with
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: sleep issues as well. Great stuff. So, all right, let's
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: talk about Joey Votto compared to Jack and Shurio to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Paul Molitor. How do you like the comparison, Cliff?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it was more about his swing, which,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you know, that I can see. I mean, it's like
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: they're both great players. I mean, Paul Malter is in
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, but deservedly so. And maybe the other,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you know, we'll get there one day. We'll see. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's still, we still have to see. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was more just because of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the type of swing he does. I think that's really
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: what he was comparing him to. Because that's hard to, like, compare,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you know, compare to Molitor, of what Molitor did. Not
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to say Trujillo's not doing his part. He's doing, heck,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: he's doing really great. But, yeah, so I think it
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was more just kind of like the mechanics of the swing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That's what he really reminded him of Paul Molitor, which
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: actually is, that is an incredible compliment when you're comparing
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: a swing to anyone for a demolitor.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Johnny.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. You know, I mean, you know, with Churio, I mean,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: if he would have been named the series MVP over Contreras,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: would have anybody really argued? Milwaukee had three guys that
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: could have won the MVP between Churio, Contreras, and what
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: was his name? Platt, the rookie. just set a record
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: for the most hits of a rookie in a World
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Series ever. And they're going to be fun to watch
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: next season if there's a next season.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just the way he approaches the first pitch. I mean,
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: that just screams what Paul Molitor did, just attacking the ball.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: getting after it. And yeah, that's, that's of course what
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Joey Votto is seeing. It just like his aggression to
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: get after the pitcher and really start a rally for
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: his club or just be the rally for his club.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you can, that's, they'll channel any Paul monitor.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: If you're, if you're, if you're watching Braves, Braves Brewers, baseball,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Um, Yeah, I can 100% see that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, Mrs. Championship Hangover, the topic is for you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Thanks. I see similarities and then I don't. Churio has
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: more raw, how should I put that, muscle behind it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: He hits more home runs. Paul Molitor hit more just
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: for getting hits. I would say the Brewers as a
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: whole did more hits, small ball, than a lot of
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: the other teams around. They both have speed. Let's put
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: it that way. They both have speed. They both have charisma.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: High-hitting profiles. I think it's really early, though, for us
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: to be comparing somebody to a great, such as Paul Molitor,
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: who was a Hall of Fame player. He was there
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: for how long he played on how many different teams,
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: had how much success. But for Jackson, that's one of
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: the highest compliments I think you can have anytime you're
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: compared to a Hall of Fame player. So hopefully that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: motivation for him to keep going.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I got a great one for you, and I think
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't appreciate that. Once upon a time,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Spark Anderson and the Detroit Tigers compared Kirk Gibson to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Mickey Mantle. What were you talking about?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: They were doing that all the time, though. Everyone was like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: all right, he's the next Mickey Mantle. He said the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: same thing about Bobby Mercer. And Bobby Mercer had some
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: good years. Don't get me wrong, but he was no
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Oof. But, you know, I mean, it goes back to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: talking about pressure, putting it on somebody that's legendary. What
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: do you think of a comparison like that? John's a parent.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Kirk Gibson to Mickey Mantle, although to Kirk's credit, he
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: did win a couple World Series, including that incredible one
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: in L.A. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: You know, the one thing is, you know, you see
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: so many players, you know, baseball has got so much
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: history behind it, and you'll see a player that reminds
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you of somebody that you've seen in the past. You know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: the style or the mannerisms or, you know, just the grit,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and You know, I mean, that's kind of a love
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: affair with the game, you know, is because there's so
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: much history. And, you know, history has a habit of
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: repeating itself sometimes.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, I did. Okay.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what I love about a lot of these players
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: is that they're able to just shake off whatever they've done.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: And if they get comparisons, they're just like, Oh, okay,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: that's cool. Great. I really don't care.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be me.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: I'm going to keep hitting the baseball. I'm going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: keep performing at a top level. Yeah, it's great to
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: see that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Some of the players embrace that, too. One of the
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: guys that is one of my favorites to watch pitch,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: David Wells. David Wells, Point Loma High in San Diego,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the same high school that Don Larson played for. And,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of history there. That guy, he
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: made a habit to go to an auction and buy
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a hat that Babe Ruth wore. And then he's sitting
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: in the monuments at Yankee Stadium, drinking a beer and sipping,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: you know, pouring some of the beer on the statues
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: of Ruth and Gehrig and, you know, Joe DiMaggio and just,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: you know, his idols. And, you know, just wearing that
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Babe Ruth hat and drinking a beer with those guys.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Didn't he actually try to wear that in the game?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Or he wore that in the game?
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember that. Well, go with the Welser. He
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: won the number three. The Yankees said no. So what
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: do you think he does? He wears number 33. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: if it makes it even more interesting about history there,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: he ends up throwing a no-hitter, I think, on July 4th.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, David Welser's character. A game of baseball misses
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: somebody like him. Anybody else want to react to the comparison,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: superstar or not, or are you all ready to move on? Good. Yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: we're good. Okay, let's go ahead. Let's talk about the WNBA.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I don't get an opportunity too much, but I will
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: this time. WNBA ended up breaking a single season record
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: back in 2025 when they recorded 2.4 million fans last
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: set in 2002. Okay, well, let's talk about the WNBA
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: for a minute, Cliff. I mean, obviously, a year later,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what the attendance records are now. But,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we all know that Caitlin Clark is the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: one that serves the drink. But a pretty good record
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: for the ladies.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's because of her. I'm like, yeah, they
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: have other good stars, no doubt. But, I mean, you
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: look at before and after, it's just the numbers with her.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: It's always off the charts. It's because of her. Yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: there are other great players, no doubt. But for whatever reason,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: people are gaga about Kaitlyn Clark. She's a great, great player.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: She's the best player on there. She's probably like the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Larry Bird right now of the WNBA. It's probably the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: best comparison you can give her. Um, and, uh, yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And yeah, she's dealing with some stuff with, uh, I
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: guess some of the other players don't like her so
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: much because they're taking away from their profile. I don't know. And, uh,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: but Hey, it's, it's, it, you look at before and
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: you look at after you look at when, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the attendance of games and stuff like that and how
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: they get sellouts or, you know, get really good attendance
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: for her games and good ratings for her games. There's
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a pattern. And you should go with that pattern. But
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: now she might go away now. She might be like, hey,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: this isn't worth it. I'll go play in Europe or
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: someplace else around the world, get paid a of money,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and not have to worry about getting slugged and slammed
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. The way it's going,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I think those numbers are going to go down. They're
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: going to say, what's happened?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: What's wrong?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: What's wrong? I think you just knocked your best player
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: out and didn't want to be abused anymore.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It's called jealousy.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a WWF element to women's NBA. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: hate to say it, you know, because the game could
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: be so good. It could be so compelling. But, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: what can I say? You know, people like to look
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: at train wrecks.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I hope. Yeah. Sometimes we don't have
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to have long answers, but the word train wreck and jealousy,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: they tell the story, you know, and John and I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: in Clifton appreciate when we were back in the seventies,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I used to love Paul Harvey. Let me tell you
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the rest of the story. Rest in peace, Paul. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: used to have him on after my show on sports talk,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: WXYZ ABC radio back in Detroit. Okay. All right. Go ahead, Lucas.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, definitely Caitlin Clark and, um, Oh, no. Connecticut,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Paige Beckers. Those two are definitely leading the way. And,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, 2002, you had Lisa Leslie leading the way
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: for the Sparks. So that's probably what sparked it back then. But,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, then you had Diana Taurasi. But, yeah, after
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: they got a little too– too old for the sport
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: it kind of faded away and yeah caitlin is now
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: bringing it back and better than ever to be honest
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: with you now uh sophie cunningham is wanting to get
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: a little uh jabs in it on caitlin clark and
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: um it just well not caitlin clark um the um
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: tall um lsu girl that's um have um yeah anyways
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: just sparking that kind of controversy. And, yeah, you want
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: to see the train wrecks. And it sells. It sells
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: for sure.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Got to love Sophie Cunningham. My late grandma Sophie was
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: named Sophie. She was blonde, and now we have a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: blonde enforcer named Sophie Cunningham. And you know what, Sophie Cunningham,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: young lady, I'm a fan of yours. That's okay. He's
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: protecting Caitlyn because without Caitlyn, Caitlyn Clark's old league would
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: be nothing. Go ahead, Candy.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: So the WNBA set an all-time record in the 2026 season,
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: drawing 3.79 million fans, which is a 20% increase from
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: last year. The league average was 11,475 fans per game,
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: an all-time high of 212 sellouts, making up 64% of
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: all regular season games. 25 games were moved to larger
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: arenas due to high demand. The finals, the seven-game 2026
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: WNBA finals between the Golden State Valkyries and Atlanta Dream
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: set a finals attendance record with 123,553 total fans averaging 17,650
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: per game.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And by the way, congratulations to the Golden State Valkyries.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I think they won the whole thing, didn't they?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: They just had the parade today.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, did they really? Yep. But, you know, the Atlanta Dream,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: more power to them. I get to hear that was
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: a pretty good series as well. Let's continue to move on.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Back to hockey. Sabres fired GM Kevin Adams. They promoted
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Charmo Kuzelainen. All right, let's go back to that firing
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: clip about a year ago, less than that. How do
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you think the move has worked out so far?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Well, last year it was miraculous. They were 14-14-4 when
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Adams was fired. The regular season after that, 36-9-5. They
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: made the playoffs. They got to the second round. They
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: lost to Montreal in seven games. Montreal had a good
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: team they could be watching this year. Their team is
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: doing really good. Montreal's doing really good this year, so
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: there's no shame in that. Heck, it was like forever
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: since they had won, even been in the playoffs. It
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: was like the first time since 2011. And that was like, oh,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: apparently it was the right move. Kevin Adams was just
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: kind of like, I mean, he was an okay player, third,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: fourth line player back in the day. He was there
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: for a long time, like six or seven years, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: then He never really did all that much. He made
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a few good moves here and there. But for the
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: most part, they were the Sabres. And they made the change.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: And wait, they just started. They went on. They just
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: started to win. I was happy. I was happy because,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you know, you're so used to seeing the Buffalo Sabres
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: not do well. And I was rooting for them. I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: was definitely rooting for them. They did hit Montreal. But,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, the fact they even made the playoffs and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: won the first round, was a massive, massive thing. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: now they've come down to earth a little bit. They're
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: 7-4-3 this year. But, I mean, I think they can
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: turn that around a little bit. I think a move
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: here or there might help. But at that point in time,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: that was just an amazing turnaround for them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: I am not giving Alex Tuck back.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I don't blame you, but yeah.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: He is actually, he's one of the few bright spots
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that I have got right now, 10 goals already. And,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: you know, just, you know, the normal guys that we have,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Alex Ovechkin, Tom Wilson, I think they've got two goals
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: between them. And, you know, Alex has got 10. So
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: that line with him and Pierre-Luc Dubois, Oh, my God.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: The guy that I wish, and I have watched him
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: since he was a blue, Tage Thompson. That guy is
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: so fun to watch. I don't think that there's a
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: team in the NHL that wouldn't want him on their wing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Don't remind me about Tage Thompson. He's the son of
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Brent Thompson, who was coach of the Islanders in a
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: minor league system in they could have taken him, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: they didn't, you know, well, I got a son. He's good. No, no,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: we don't want him.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Regrets trading him.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how a guy like Kevin Anderson gets fired
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and things look better for the other guy after the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: fruits of his labor. I mean, and that always happens
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that way, doesn't it? Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: It's, kind of surprising at the same time because the
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Sabres are, I mean, they're better than they were what
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: five or six years ago. I mean, they're having, they're
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: having better success. They're, they're getting close to their 98 status.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Like you're like, that just, it's, there's something that Adams,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: I feel like did that is unsettling to their culture
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: and did something that with their staff. It's, I mean, it's,
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: it's no Sherrod, uh, more situation, but, um, but it's,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: it's something funky that the owners aren't happy with that,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: that change was half that the change happened. Like you,
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: you make the playoffs and you make a really good
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: part in it. And now you're just going to let
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: go of the guy who got you to the playoffs.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I guess they want to do a
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: win-now mentality. They want to go straight into the finals
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: and make it now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: They still need a goalie. They try to get Hellebuck.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: They still need a goalie. I've got some other parts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It's the goaltending that's... Since Ron Miller's been gone, it's...
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: For him, it's always that goaltending. Of course, Hellebuck was, oh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Hellebuck's going to go to Buffalo and We all know
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: he went to Jersey. They might be in on another guy.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: But I think they're just going to have to, like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: draft some superstar goalie. I don't know how anyone's going
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: to be able to trade for anyone because, you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it's Buffalo. It's hard to, like, get people to Buffalo.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, oh, you want to play for Buffalo?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe last year, but this year, like, eh, because they're
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: not doing as great as they were last year.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, if this was Vancouver, I would say, yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: that would be a good call, but this is Buffalo. You're,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: you're making some strides in the right direction.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still, it's still, they still have that aura.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. They only remember what, what's going on now.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: It was nice last year.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: In the end.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: They might be okay, but it's, it's going to be
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: harder for, for a team to, for a guy to
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: want to really go to Buffalo. It's not, it doesn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: have that, that, That shiny feel to it. It's not Toronto.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It's not New York, which I still don't like like
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: people like going there. But it's, you know, it's not
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: like the big, the big, the big places. It's doesn't
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: matter if they have a good, a good young team,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: they did the right way. They don't have that. It's Buffalo. Okay.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have that shiny, that shiny aspect to it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And they don't have the great history with all the cups.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: If you have it, they don't have any cups. So that,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you know, it's, And it's not fair.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair either, but it's just the
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: way things go.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: They're trying to be like the Bills, I guess, because
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: they see them going to the championship every year. Like, hey,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: why can't we do this? Why are we doing this?
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I remember when Buffalo, oh, God, especially, you know, they
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: had the French Connection line. Yeah. That was as good
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: as hockey could get at times when you saw those
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: three guys.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: On the play. Yeah, I remember that. That was a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: long time ago. Buffalo had a hard time drawing big
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: athletes for a long time. They had a problem with
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position after Jim Kelly left. Finally got Josh
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Allen in this position to settle, but there was a
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: big long drop between quarterbacks.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Well, Jim didn't want to go there at first. No,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: He played for the Gamblers, and then he ended up
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: going there because it was the only place he could go.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And how did it work out for him? It worked
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: out pretty well. But great for him. I see so.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: I wish you wouldn't talk about it, but all right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Candy? I'm good.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: We can move on.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We talked about Manny Machado earlier, but, hey, listen,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: faith that the guy did play in the 2026 World
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Baseball Classic. Some thoughts about Manny playing for the Dominican Republic. Cliff? Well, yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It makes sense. He's from there. They always have a
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: good team. Dominican is always like one of the better
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: teams there. You know, it's, it's, it's, and that's the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: weird thing. I'm like, we have so many talented players
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: from that tiny little, and it's a half Island. Think
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: about it. Cause half is Haiti. Half is the Dominican Republic.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: And I don't remember the last time they had a
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: good Haitian baseball player, but like, so that makes it
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: even more astounding. Cause it's, half of a tiny island.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: And we have all these amazing baseball players that come
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: from there. And they're like a, they're, they're, they're a
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: top like five baseball power. You know, it's like, you
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: look at it, wait, you look at it first, second,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: pitchers everywhere. It's like, Oh my gosh. You know, it's like,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: it's even that one little, that one tiny little island nation.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And yes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And I remember when everybody used to be like shortstops
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: back in the eighties, everyone was from San Pedro de Macaray.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And all the shortstops from the Dominican back in the day.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Now they're from every part, you know, of there. And
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: they play every position. And they play it really well. But, yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: it makes sense. You know, Manny Machado, you know, of
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: course he's going to play there. And they always do
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: pretty well. You know, so that's all I got for that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: He was way better. He had a better season in
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: the WBC than he did with the Padres this year.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. Very good. Anybody else want to add to it? Yeah.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just, he's going to play for his country.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is that it's life. You eat, sleep, dream,
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: walk baseball out in Dominican Republic. So there's any chance
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: that he's going to play for his country.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He's going to play for his country. So, yeah. All right. Well,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: this is an interesting story. It really is. Let's talk
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: about Nick Saban. because this one's really a really interesting one.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to dig it up right now. But his
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: journey from car dealerships to the NHL is just too surreal.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Let me dig it up. I think it's a pretty
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: good story. I think since I have a pretty good
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: hockey group in here tonight, we'll let them go ahead
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and break it down. In the meantime, while we do that,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: why don't we give Candy an opportunity to do a
• 43:30
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• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Candy. All right, let's talk about Nick Saban.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Why not? Let's talk about his journey from car dealership
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: to the National Hockey League. Because I'll tell you what,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: he's building a business empire past his coaching days, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: now he's getting into board franchise ownership. And who's he
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: going with? Well, you get the people you're talking about.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Nick Saban, we're talking about the Nashville Predators, so let's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: break it down. Nick Saban's post-coaching business boom hasn't been
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: in sports, it's been in car dealerships. Me and Joe
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Agresti own 20 dealerships together. We made a $ 700 million
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: deal for Mercedes-Benz in 2023. Let's continue on, but now
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Saban is turning his eyes to sports ownership, and he
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and Agresti are purchasing a minority stake in the National Predators,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: which is pretty neat. And obviously him and his wife, Terry,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: were celebrating the idea, and now they're Predator fans. I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: think it's pretty noble, Cliff, that he's doing it. What
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts about it?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's already had his– he's got a
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: legendary career as a college football coach. He's transitioned from that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: He got into the whole– car dealership thing. Then he,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: he somehow got, uh, you know, hooked up with the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Nashville predators and now he's using, um, no, he might
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: not know much about hockey strategy, but he does know
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: how to lead. He knows how to lead men and
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: victory and all that. And that's what, what he's there for.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, Hey, you can't get much better than, uh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Nick Saban, um, as you know, to, to, to know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: to tell, uh, how to like lead, uh, men, young
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: men and, uh, lately they've been a sports, uh, environment, uh,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: towards victory and it's the Nashville predators. And, you know, they,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, they may make the playoffs that do commonly good, but, uh,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: they could probably use some help, uh, there. Um, Barry
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Trotz was a great, uh, coach, but he's had some
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: problems being a GM. So I think this is going
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to be a good shot in the, uh, direction for,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: for the team. I think he'll be a good influence, uh,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: from at least that standpoint on how to push the
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: right buttons, how to get these guys maybe in the
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: right direction, getting them the right mindset, dealing with the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: coaches on how to deal with the players, and at
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: least bringing the franchise into a better direction, maybe get
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: deeper into the playoffs and maybe compete for the Stanley
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Cup one day. So that's a heck of an investment
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: for him and for the team.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: The Nationals gave a good– They're welcoming him. Welcome to Smashville.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. More power to them. They may
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: not have liked him when he played for the Tennessee–
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: when he coached against the Volunteers, but you know what?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: They're going to like him a little bit more now.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, John.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to remember about Nashville. The football team there,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the college team, are the Vanderbilt Commodores.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: But, you know, Volunteers are in Knoxville. That's a different
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: time zone. The one thing about the Predators– is that
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: is the most popular team in Nashville, ahead of the Commodores,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: ahead of the Titans. You go, a Predators ticket will
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: cost you more than a ticket to the Titans. You
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: look at the fans, you've got Country Music Hall of
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Fame in the stands, just amazing. every night. Uh, my brother,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: you know, sends me a picture of a 49ers player, uh,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: George Kittle in the stand, but he's wearing a predators
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Jersey and not a 49ers Jersey. And when you look
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: at some of the other things, you know, just hockey
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: in general, uh, the rest of the sporting world is
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: falling apart in love with the game. You know, you
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: see Charles Barkley on the NHL pregame show. You know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: you see so many of these other players that are
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: showing up. When the Capitals or the Nationals won the
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: World Series, where did they show up? Capital One Arena,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: and they rode the Zambonia with the World Series trophy.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I have video from that night when I was there. And,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: you know, you see Beast Mode, Marshawn Lynch, in Seattle.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: You will see him at every Seattle Kraken game right
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: behind the bench cheering that team on. And, you know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: it's amazing how hockey is appealing to so many different
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: sports communities. It's a lot of fun.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that because Charles Barkley has
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: always been a fan of the NHL because of the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: way they play. So I guess it's interesting to say
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that the state of Tennessee had a chance to see
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: the Crimson Tide fight together. Tennessee volunteers up in, like
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you say, Nashville. And, yes, out in Nashville, you've got
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that Vanderbilt Confidors. Great stuff. But, hey, listen, more power
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to Nick. If he can go out there and get
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: a piece of the hockey action, then, again, like Cliff said,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: and Cliff's right dead on with this, his leadership means
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: more than anything over there. then his hockey knowledge, you
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: can't teach leadership. You really can't. John, you really can't. Okay, Lucas,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: pick it up.
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's, I mean, they're bringing in his leadership for sure.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: That's the biggest reason why. I mean, and he wants
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: to invest in something for his future. And yeah, Nashville
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Predators are definitely an up-and-coming hockey team for sure. I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: they're the best ticket in town as far as sports
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: in Nashville. I mean, if you want to find a
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: good event after or during your trip to Nashville, you're
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: going to a Predators game for sure. And being in
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: a hockey arena is bar none one of the best
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: experiences ever. And you know you need to bring a
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: sweatshirt or whatever, and you're going to be comfortable. It's
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: an awesome place to just feel comfortable. an awesome environment
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: and for Saban to do that and to bring the
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: grit that he has to the predators in that leadership.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: Role.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's, that's a no brainer.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Saban sits on the team's official leadership search committee alongside
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: majority owner, Bill Haslam, CEO, Sean Henry, Saban has played
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: a direct role in active in-person candidate interviews, asking questions
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: and evaluating leadership philosophies. He does not evaluate technical hockey strategy,
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: admitting he is no hockey expert, but he applies his
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: background in building winning accountable championship cultures. So that's what
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: he's trying to help build. They've had lots of candidates,
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: but that's why Saban is there. I mean, let's face it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: He won where he was before. For those of you
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: that do or don't know, the Milwaukee Admirals are the team,
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: the AHL affiliate of the Nashville Predators.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: All right, let's continue on the Phillies outfields. is reportedly
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: pretty much set. He's coming from for Bob Nightingale. A
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: year ago, David Dombrowski said the Phillies outfield set that
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: they were going to have a reunion with Harrison Bader.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Don Mattingly is now the manager of the team. But
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the outfield you had was Brandon Marshall, O'Kemp in left field,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Justin Crawford, center field, Adalas Garcia, who, by the way,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: they weren't going to bring back. So what are your
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: thoughts about things out in the outfield? Don Mattingly is
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: now in charge. No Rob Thompson. contrast with this team
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: could look like from last year to what became this year.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Cliff.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I have to admit I have a bias here.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I do not like the Philadelphia Phillies, and I love
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Don Mattingly. I have nothing but respect for the man.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: It breaks my heart he didn't ever become the Mets manager,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: but that would have really stuck at the Yankees fans.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: They would not like that at all, but Um, but yeah, um, yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: they've got, they've got some real good players there. I can't,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: I can't, I'm not, I'm not stupid.
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: They've got, they've got a good solid team and that
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: upsets me. Um, but I mean, they didn't do all
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: that great this year. Uh, you know, yeah, they did better,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: better than the Mets, but everybody did better than the Mets.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: The Mets finished in last. Um, so yeah, yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Good for you.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Good for them.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great. Great.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And then I got to hear it. You remember, I mean,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I'm in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and they're all Phillies fans around here.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I have a few Pittsburgh transplants and you know, Baltimore
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: is not that far away, but they don't bother me.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I I've really gotten to know Philly fans, um, pretty well.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: They're nice people sometimes, but Oh my gosh, they're absolutely bonkers.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: And I, I just, I just like Philadelphia.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Sports teams more now because they've gotten to know their
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: fans even better. So, yeah. Yeah, they're going to– they've
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: got some good players there, but, you know, it's– yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: like I said, I'm not good. I'm not the best
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: person to ask for this because I'm not– I'm not
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: happy that they're doing better with those guys.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: That's great. And the best thing about them is Don Mattingly, period.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Fair enough. All right, go ahead.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: A name I didn't hear. Bryce Harper. I thought they
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: were moving him back to the outfield because he's no
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: first baseman. Or are they trading him to the Braves?
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: I just know that when he left the Nationals, the
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Nats won the World Series.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to go that, Brad. We don't
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: want to see the repeat of that, okay?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: At least I don't. That is pretty good stuff. You
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: want to stick it to the film. You just did it, Johnny.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Great stuff. I love having this guy back on. He's unbelievable.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: And we're blessed to have him and Cliff and Lucas.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Lucas. Take a shot at this.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: You guys are doing great.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, ever since Harper left the Nationals, he's
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: been picking it up. So Nationals did better when he left,
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: and then he's– been doing well ever since he left
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: the Nationals. I mean, as far as the Phillies, their
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: most inexperienced is the outfield, to be honest with you,
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: because they have Harper at first. You got, I mean,
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: Arise at second, who had an outstanding year with the
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: Giants and the Phillies just defensively and with the bat.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: You got Trey Turner, who's always going to be a
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: stud regardless on both sides of the ball. And then
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: you got O'Reliable, who's getting older and older and older,
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: but JT Rilamuto, and then you got Kyle Schwarber from DH.
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: But Garcia, he's, I mean, he's just huge. He is
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: the biggest freaking outfielder that you can imagine. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: goodness gracious, you want to talk about a guy who
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: eats his meals and eats his veggies every day. That's
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: the guy, and he just, I mean, he's a heck
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: of a hit machine whenever he's on. And I mean,
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Karl Crawford Jr. I mean, look at the, he's trying
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: to follow his dad's legacy. I mean, he's definitely up
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: and coming. He's got a long ways to go, but he's,
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: the potential is there. And then Marsh, I, he likes
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: to rally a lot. I mean, he's, I never have
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: been really that impressed with him during the season, but
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: he's just got grit. But as far as last year,
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know how they were able to be just
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: so offensively and just have no pitching whatsoever because they
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: have one of the worst teams in baseball. And they
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: still made the playoffs because, I mean, the NL East
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: was absolutely awful. so yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, that's all I got. I mean, to.
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: Say that they have their outfield already set at this point,
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: I guess kudos to them, but sometimes there's someone that
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: comes along that's a free agent that maybe is better. Um, know, yes,
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: I think they were smart to give Mattingly the contract.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: I love that for him. Do I want the Phillies
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: to have a lot of success? No, but that's me–
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: being in the National League with my team and wanting
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: my team to repeat. Let's face it, we don't even,
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, I get we need to be talking about this,
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: but we don't even know if there's going to be
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: a season. Like, we can't even, we're so far apart.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see what happens.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I'll say about the whole thing
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: is this. You got Don Manley there. The team that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Rob Thompson had, versus a one-round man, and it's going
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: to be different. So it'll be interesting to see what
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the 2027 outcome looks like. All right. We talked about
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: college football playoff ticket prices last year. Get this. Last year,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: the tickets for a family of four, the Miami Hurricanes
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and Texas A & M were at $ 1, 076. Alabama and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma were at $ 770. You had Tulane and Ole Miss
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: at $ 732, and James Madison and Oregon were $ 300. Still,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: they're wildly different across the country. Go figure this one out, Cliff.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Well, it's college football, and I mean, I guess it
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: depends on your fan base and how much. It always
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: comes down to supply and demand. You know, how rabid
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: are the fans? And that's what it's basically going to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: come down to. Is it crazy for costs? Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: The watch... to watch college football. Um, sure. I'm like, I,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: I work at a college. I'm not going to university.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I get, I get two free tickets, even though my
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: team just finally won their first game for my school this,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: this season, uh, Hampton.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: Uh, yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's been, it's not been good anyway. Um, but yeah, it's, it's,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: but they, it's that, it's that, if that's what they
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: can get, I don't think it's fair because I mean, it's,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: you want to bring your family to go watch the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: game and you, you shouldn't have to take out a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: second mortgage on your house just to go to a game. Um,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: but that's a lot of sports. That's a lot of sports.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: It's with concerts now. I mean, the costs just keep
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: going up and up and up and up and up. Um,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not really surprised, but it's like, and then it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: just going to be like, uh, the boosters and it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: going to be like, only the, the, the elite will
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: be able to, to go, or you knew some, somebody and,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: you know, they're a friend of the program. You've heard
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: all this stuff before and, That's kind of that's kind
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: of and I mean, these are big stadiums. A lot
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: of these are like absolutely monstrous stadiums. And I'm like, wow,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: it's that that's.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of money.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: That really is. And I know like I think a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: lot of students either get discounts or maybe they get
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: to go to go for free. If you're a student undergrad,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know where I know that's us and some
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: other places, but maybe not necessarily the big programs. But, yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: that's just tragic that it would have to cost so
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: much money just to bring your family out to watch
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: a college football game.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, John.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, success drives a lot of that.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: I look at my old alma mater, San Diego State,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: and they had more empty seats at a brand-new stadium
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: than they had people in them. For $ 50, you can
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: take a family to four and not only get seats,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: but beverages and snacks and watch, you know, the Pac-12.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: You go someplace else, James Madison, well, you know, they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: were in the playoffs last year. So that's kind of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: an expensive ticket. You know, I was looking at even
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: pro– Success drives a lot. My son and I were
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: looking at the games last Sunday and we looked at
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: the San, well, it used to be the San Diego,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: the LA chargers, you know, how you can buy a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: ticket for their game this weekend for $ 14 in Los
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Angeles at a brand new stadium. You know, it depends.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Are they winning?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Are they a big school? Are they winning? That drives
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of this, and if they're not winning, yeah, hey,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: you can go see a team.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 0-7 isn't going to cost you a whole lot,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: especially with Jim Harbaugh as the coach. That'll be for
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: another day. Go ahead, Lucas.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely depends on the team. I mean, the playoffs,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: for sure. I mean, regardless of who it is, it's
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: going to be a high ticket because this is– single
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: elimination you're it like this is the best living in
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: the moment playoffs for that team and this is the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: postseason you're gonna pay top dollar I mean for a
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: family of four yeah it's can we imagine you gotta be,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: you gotta be really, uh, doing well for yourself to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: be able to make that happen. Uh, you're better off
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: just going to a watch party, making that happen. Cause
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: that's why I watch parties are becoming so prevalent in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: those areas as well. Surrounding and just, and they fill
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: up really quickly because you can't spend what? $ 2, 500 for
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: your whole entire family to go. No, that's insane to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: be able to, fork that over I mean yeah it's
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: yeah I cannot fathom anyone doing that and you got
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: to be so dedicated and like you said it's probably
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: going to be the only the elite and boosters eventually
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: that are going to be making it to these games.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Good point yeah my days of I mean these league
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: prizes are absurd especially with some of the games college
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: games you're not talking about NFL games by the way
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: what's significant we're talking about college candy go ahead.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: You talk about we're only talking about college, but some
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: of those college kids are getting paid more than some
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: of the pro guys are, if you think about it,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: with the NIL deals that they're making. But, yeah, let's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: face it. Football is king in this country. And I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: would say any form of a football game, especially playoffs,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: because it's a single elimination game, More people are attracted
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: to go. There's more viewership on it, more eyes on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: it than some of the other sports. I'll leave it
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: at that, Scott.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to our future topic of the night.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: NFL approves new professional flag football league. I think a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: lot of those attributed to the Olympics going to, they'll
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: have flag football over the L.A. Coliseum. But, hey, you
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: might as well start one and get ready for the event.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Some thoughts, Cliff?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, like you said,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: the Olympics are going to do that, and everyone's talking
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: about how, oh, yeah, this NFL player is going to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: be playing, that NFL player is going to be playing.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we'll see about that. With the way
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: the contracts are and, you know, I think it's not–
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know. If they do– I don't see the big,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: big players going. I see maybe like backups maybe going
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: to do that, but I'm not really surprised. It's become
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: much more popular. It's not as physical, obviously as regular football.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: So it's, they've been, they've been marketing that for a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: long time now. I mean, if you're watching the NFL
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: network and they're constantly doing stuff on that, they've constantly
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: had those official programs for, quite a few years, especially
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: wanting to get, uh, women into the game as well. So,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: you know, so they, it's, you know, guys do it,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: women play the game. So it's, it's, it's an opportunity to,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: you know, um, to play, uh, a form of the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: game without, um, the obviously needing the, uh, the met
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: the helmets and all the other gear. And, um, so yeah, it's, it's, it's,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: it's a win-win for them. I think it's, uh, especially,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: and especially that it's going to be going to the Olympics, uh, Um,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: and they're going to give that a shot there. It's, it's,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: it's smart on their part to like, try to expand
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the game. So I can't really blame them. I mean, that's, that's,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: you know, and it's, and it's not, you don't have
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: to play. You can play at any time. You can
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: play in the summer. You can play in the, in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: the winter if you want to. It's like, you don't,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: there's no, uh, set time for it. So, uh, yeah,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I can't blame, I can't blame the NFL do it.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: They've got a, it's their game and, uh, you know, it's,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: they're going to have, uh, another way of just expanding
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: their brand. That's what this is about, expanding their brand
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: and finding new avenues to expand their game and expand
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: their name and put even more cash in that very, very, very,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: very large vault of money that they have because they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: know how to make money.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, John.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to go over about as well
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: as the Pro Bowl does. I mean, this is, you know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: do I want to watch a bunch of guys, you know, basically...
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: you know, in San Diego, we had this game at
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: the beach, a three man softball called over the line.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: You know, basically you try to hit a ball past
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: another guy. And, you know, you went there mostly because
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: of the stupidity. that took over and some of the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: more colorful team names that can't be repeated on YouTube
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: or social media or anything else for, you know, otherwise
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: we get in big trouble. But no, this is going
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: to go over about as well as the Pro Bowl.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: I think of this as, okay, it's a money grab.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: You got to get every dollar you can, but they
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: ain't getting one of mine. I ain't watching it.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl lasted a long time, though. Far too long,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: but it did last a very long time.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Well, John, if I go there to watch those games,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I'm only going there for one reason and one reason only.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: You know what that is? I want to take out
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the L.A. Coliseum on my bucket list to go, and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: that's it. After that, I'm done. Candy will definitely go
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: ahead and go to other venues in L.A., and there
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: are no shortage of them. Go ahead.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: This is the NFL shot to be the one professional
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: big-time league to be co-ed for a flag football league.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: I think that's an opportunity for them to make it
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: happen because it wouldn't be too aggressive because it's flag football.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: And you can be just showy with it. And what's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: there to lose for them in that situation? Anyone who
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: wants to really get in part of it, man or woman,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, go for it. I mean, it's not tackle.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: You don't need any helmets and you just have to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: have speed. I mean, there's plenty of fast women that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: can make that happen. That's just my opinion. That's an
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: opportunity for them to make it happen.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I think they might add, if they're going to add
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: some panache to it to get star power, get like
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: celebrity teams or celebrity athletes or retired athletes. If you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: want to like try, I'm not sure if it'll be
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: as big as it, you know, you know, it'll be
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: bigger than people that you don't know, you know? And
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: so if they really wanted to do that, I could
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: definitely see them, you know, any number of people, you know, rappers, rockers,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: actors who are athletic or former players or, you know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: like they have those celebrity softball games and stuff like that.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: I think that's, I'm not saying it's not gimmicky. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: think they would have to make it gimmicky to have
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: people watch or want to watch.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: How great would it be to have Ronda Rousey on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: this team?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: Playing flag football in the NFL, Ronda Rousey.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then she forgets. Then she forgets it's flag football.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: No, but still, she would have some aggression towards it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. We already got professional wrestling.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: It's a TV show, okay?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: It's a TV show.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: That's what it is.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: It's about TV.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: It's about getting eyes. It's about getting... It doesn't matter
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: from the standpoint of the credibility of the game. That's
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: what they're trying to do. It's just another TV show.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: 100%. I love the Ronda Rousey reference.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: And that just popped in. I'm like, who's the most
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: aggressive woman that can really, really hack a punch with
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: a football?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: The one lady.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: There is a young lady on the women's rugby team
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: for the USA.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: That would put.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: I know who you're talking about too.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, she would put.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Most half of these guys on their behinds.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Yup.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: That too.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: See, it would work out and you don't, you're not tackling.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: You're just going full on.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: I prefer to watch the rugby.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: Oh, I just, I can't, I can't appreciate it. That's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: the thing about it. I like the action, but it's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: just like, I don't know. Just, I can't appreciate it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: the actions that are going on. I can't, that's just,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: I need to, I need to learn more about it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like, um, kind of like cricket for me.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Well, I was up at Baltimore, uh, when, uh, New
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Zealand played South Africa, they had 70,000 people in that stadium.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: That was, that was amazing. That's their, that's their bread
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: and butter.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: And in Baltimore of all places.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: I still can't get over the round of Rousey reference.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: I know that'll stick with you forever.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: No, no, it won't stick with me forever. What you
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: did last week for 35 minutes. Too bad you missed
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: that one, John. I had a good one-on-one interview with
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Nelson about Tora. That was really good. In fact, That
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: may be your ticket to my next book, by the way, Nelson,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: just so you know.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Well, you would have gotten in, but that's easily going
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: to get you in. Because you know what? I will
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: say this, and this is serious, and I can get
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: serious when I need to be. You gave me so
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: much inside information to write in that damn book. That
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: was just great stuff. All right, Katie, break through the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: insanity of flag football already.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: NFL and TMRW sports officially unveiled. Premier Flag, a new
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: professional flag football league for men and women set to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: launch summer of 2027. It's backed by a $ 32 million
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: NFL investment alongside TMRW Sports, who was co-founded by Tiger
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: Woods and Roy McIlroy. The league features separate men and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: women's divisions designed as a full-time professional career path. A
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: premier flag showcase will take place during Super Bowl week
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: in Los Angeles. Talent identification and combines are underway following
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: initial events in London and Mexico City.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Scott. All right, we'll talk about the NBA
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit, expanding. We did part one of this, John,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: last week, but this one's interesting with part two. Other
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: candidates that are considered top targets for the NBA are Nashville, Tennessee,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: as if we haven't talked about them enough on the show,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about them again. One of the fastest-growing U.S. cities,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: strong sports fan base. We talked about the Titans and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: the Predators, expanding entertainment, media markets, strategic location in the southeast.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Do I think they'll get one there? Probably not, because
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: you have the Memphis Grizzlies. The only way you'd get
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: one there is if the Grizzlies were to move over there.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: It could be different, but that's just one thought process.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, Missouri, I think they should get one there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. They had a team. They
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: had one. The Kings. Yeah, that's why I think they
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: should get one there, because they've got a facility ready
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: for it. Strong Force culture with Kansas City Chiefs and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: the Royals. NBA-ready venue with the T-Mobile Center, largest market.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Midwest market without an NBA team, central location for league travel.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: No doubt about that. And last but not least, the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: one I like the best of this group is Louisville, Kentucky.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: If you like that, a league basketball coach from Louisville
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Cardinals basketball, NBA-ready arena, KFC Yum Center. No competing. Major
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: pro team, strong regional base. What they're missing is they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: had a history with the ABA, I believe with the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Kentucky Cardinals.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some artists killed. Artists, Gilmore and Dan Issel.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: There you go. All right, good. You started it. Leave
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: the topic.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: You know, that would be my top team. And you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: know who they should move there? The Clippers, because they
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: are lost in L.A. The owner's about to dump them
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: after he's gotten suspended.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: By the NBA.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: And, you know, the only the only question is whether
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: the Chargers are going to have to change their name
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: to the Clippers or for saying that L.A.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Hates We were arguing this last week. We were talking
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: about expansion. I'm saying no expansion. I'm like, just move
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: the Clippers to Seattle, move the Sacramento Kings to Vegas,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: and he's getting mad at me. The Clippers, they're in
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: a big old arena. Yeah, they share. I said 7%
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: of LA follows the Clippers.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not the only one.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going to look at Clippers.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know about Kentucky, but, you know, They.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Probably, you can go to a Clippers game about as
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: cheaply as you can go to a Chargers game right now.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: By the way, who's the other player you mentioned, Artis Gilmer,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: who was the other one?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: Dan Issel, who was Kentucky royalty, one of Adolph Rupp's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: last players. played for years in Denver with the Nuggets
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: after the ABA fell apart.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Well, correct me if I'm wrong. I think Hubie Brown
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: was the initial coach.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: He was the coach, I believe.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, too. Hubie, I think he won
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: a championship there.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: There you go, John. I know my basketball history. All right, Cliff,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: rant about the Clippers. I know you're waiting to get
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: under my skin tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I've already said this. Expansion is silly for the NBA.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: It's like they've already got these silly markets. Yeah, yeah, Louisville.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: All right, Nashville.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just silly.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't care. It's just weird. They
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: got the Cleveland Cavaliers not that far away. I don't
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: even know why they have Memphis Grizzlies. I don't know
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: why they just didn't move them to Nashville anyway and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: give Memphis a G League team or something. They can
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: be the minor league team for them. The NBA shouldn't
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: be expanding at all. Move teams. Yeah, just move some teams.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: When the championship luster of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: City Thunder wears off, you can move them to Kansas City.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: How about that? Why does St. Louis not have a team?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: Why does Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania not have a team? You know,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: it's like they have a team for like other things.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Why don't they have that? I think St. Louis would
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: like a basketball team.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: It seems like it would be a good place for them.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: They had two.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: They had the Hawks before they went to Atlanta. And
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: then they had the Spirits of St. Louis with Maurice
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Lucas and, God, Bad News Barnes. They actually beat the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: Nets one year. They beat Dr. J in the playoffs
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: one year. And they're still getting paid. When the ABA folded,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: the ownership of the St. Spirits of St. Louis got
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: a check. They got a share of the NBA TVA
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: contract in perpetuity.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: For how many years?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: Since the ABA folded. Still getting paid.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: How long does that go?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: In perpetuity.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Until the league folds, you know.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: That's got to be nice.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: Holy smokes. I don't know.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I still think the NBA should be back in Louisville.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: That was a mistake. They should have had a team there.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: And I know they'd support it, be the only game
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: in town. Yes, Cliff, I think maybe some of the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: other bad franchises could easily be relocated. They'll have to
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: have expansion. But it's not a foregone conclusion, though, the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Super Saiyans are going to get a team. If they
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: can't get the bidders up right, John, it isn't. So
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: I think they've thrown Mexico City in there to apply
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: a little pressure on Seattle to up this cash flow. And,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: of course, we know Vegas is going to get one.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: It depends on who kicks out the most cabbage.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead. Somebody will.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Nashville. Nashville. No.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: Memphis is right there. Kansas City, yeah, you got the
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: Royals and you got the Chiefs right there. And you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: still got a fan base from the previous years. Louisville's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: not a bad downtown area. It's surprisingly nice. It's a
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: good spot. I mean, when you think of Kentucky, you're
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: just like, Louisville?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: Like, don't they make baseball bats there? Like, Once you
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: go downtown Louisville, you're.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, this is actually gorgeous.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: It's really beautiful. Like to have a professional team down there,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: that would be awesome for the area. That would continually
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: expand what they already have, which is really, really beautiful.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, to be honest, downtown Louisville looks better than
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: downtown Raleigh. That is my opinion. I've been to Raleigh. Yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: and it's really not even close, in my opinion, because
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: you got the water, the Ohio River, literally right there.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: And it's beautiful. It's so gorgeous. It just sets up
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: the scene for downtown Louisville. And Raleigh's just– there's just Raleigh.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: But let's throw away Raleigh. But, yeah, Louisville, to have
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: a professional team there, that would be kind of cool,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: to be honest with you.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: You see, we were in Louisville, and Candy and I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: visited the cave, the cemetery with Muhammad Ali in there,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: saw the colonel in there. That was kind of neat.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: And I saw that river. I'd like to spend more
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: time at Louisville at some point or another, but we
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: were able to do that. I want to honor Muhammad Ali.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: The nightlife is really cool. Yeah, just to walk around
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: downtown at night in Louisville, just like the proper area,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: it's really, really nice.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: Whiskey Row.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: That's a lot of fun. I was, I think I
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: was like nine, but I still enjoyed it.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Well, Katie, when you visit Denise, we'll have to find
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: a way at some point down the road, put a
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: couple of days in the Louisville. I'd like to go
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: to that bat place for sure. And of course, I've
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: had good dealings with the Louisville Cardinals. I mean, Jeff
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Brown was one of my favorite people to talk to.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: That's for sure.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: Let me get this thing real quick.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Katie.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: Um, yeah, the, NBA expanding, you know, we, we've, we've
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: been there before. We've done that. Um, you know, they,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: we talked last week a little bit about some of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: the other teams. Could I see some more Midwest? I could, um,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 7: can Nashville actually support all of these different teams? That'd
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: be my question. I don't know. Um, You know, they
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 7: have music, they have hockey, they have football. Can they
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: support NBA, too? I'm not so sure about that one. But, hey,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: if the NBA wants to try and put it there,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: go for it.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think of the group, Louisville and Meeksville,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: to me, that's what I think. It's just for some
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: reason they can't put a finger on it. Maybe because
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: they need me in history. I don't know. And the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: fact they do a sensational job, you know, with the
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Cardinals and so forth.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Last week, we dove into this topic, and we talked
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: about pro stadiums that held things to the World Cup.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: But now we're going to go to the colleges, okay?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Because I think this is interesting. They have 14 World
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Cup teams that actually train at the U.S. colleges. We're
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: going to talk about Wake Forest when they held on
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: to Germany. Then you're going to have UC Santa Barbara, Austria,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: University of Portland and Jordan, Bentley University, France, University of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Kansas had Algeria, Gonzaga held Egypt, were hosted, Rutgers had Senegal,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: San Jose State had Paraguay, UNC Greensboro had Norway, not bad.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Bryant University had Ghana, Westmont College had Qatar, Stockton University
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: had Haiti. San Diego, there you go, John, had New Zealand.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: And you had Florida, in our backyard, you had Florida
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Atlantic at Curacao. And there you have it. So, John,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts? I'll go to Cliff first. What
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts about some of these being held on campus,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: the practices, John? I mean, we'll start with John, then
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: we'll go to Cliff. I'm sorry I'm mixing you all up. Okay.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I think this is credible. You know, if you
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: remember back to the World Cup, The Spanish national team
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: trained at a school in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And they were
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: playing their games in Atlanta. But they trained, you know,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: about an hour and a half drive away. College, a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: small college down there. And those guys turned that town
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: into a gathering place. You had all these fans that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: came from all over Europe. to a small little town
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: eating biscuits and gravy and eggs and red-eye gravy with
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: ham and biscuits. And I think that's an incredible way
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: to introduce people to sports. You know, when you get
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: some of the things, San Diego has always had an
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Olympic training site down in Chula Vista. You know, not
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: many people think of it, but they've got a huge
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: training facility down there. for different sports, you know, between
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: track and field, rugby, lacrosse. There's a surprising lacrosse community
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: in Southern California. And then rugby, some of the best U.S.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: rugby is played in San Diego and Long Beach and
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles. So, you know, a huge expat community. My
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: son's college coach for rugby at Old Dominion was, a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: guy named Duncan Afrikaner, who had played for Belmont Shore
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: and Long Beach. Belmont Shore and Long Beach, Old Blue
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: up in the Bay Area, and the Mission Beach in
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: San Diego. Those three teams would win the U.S. club
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: title every year. So, a huge sports area seen in
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: that area. But if you could get like with the
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: Baylor school in Chattanooga, where you have the Spanish national
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: men's team practice for the world cup down there, that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: would be a great way to introduce people to different sports.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Cliff. Pick it up.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Well, it only makes sense because I mean the tournaments
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: in the summer, right? Well, Schools, yeah, they have summer classes,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: but there's not that many. Kids aren't there. Students aren't there.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: It's pretty open. It's just smart. The fields aren't doing
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: anything in the summer. Of course you're going to put them,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: especially these teams, there. They probably stayed in the dorms
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: over there, probably, because no one's using the dorms. It
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: makes sense. It makes total sense to do that. It's
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: probably pretty close to where they were going to be
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: playing for a lot of the games at least maybe
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: the initial games and stuff when we started so it
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: just probably made it made lots of sense on so
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: many different levels i mean how do we share how
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: what where do we find the places to to practice
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: well we've got colleges and it's summer and there's not
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: many people around so okay and we've got places to
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: sleep because dorms are open so you know it's it's
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: it's just a no-brainer for them to do that that
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: was that was That was a brilliant way to do it.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: The schools are going to be taking care of those
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: fields so they know it's going to be decent fields
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to practice on. No
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: surprise there. No surprise by me on that one.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: They're probably going to be taking care of it even
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: more now that a national team's coming through. They're going
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: to be like, oh, we have Paraguay coming through for
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: their practice. We've got to really keep this up. I'm
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: guessing there's been there was a ton of attendance just
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: coming out and watching these players because, yeah, they're national players. Greensboro, Winston-Salem,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: San Diego, Chattanooga, just all of these spots that you
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: would never see a national team come by. It's a
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: great experience for the area to see. I mean, it's
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: win-win everywhere you go, profit-wise, popularity-wise, exposure-wise. It's amazing. And
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: it just builds the sport to be better and better.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: It just allows young fans to come through and say, hey,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: those guys are really good. Hey, maybe one day you
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: can practice up to be like that. And it gives
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: parents a good stepping stone for their child to say, hey,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: maybe a five-year-old can see the fundamentals of a national
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: soccer player that's doing some cool moves and practicing like that.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: It's like, see that aggression? He's not even playing, and
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: look how aggressive he is. It's so healthy for everyone
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: to see that grow in those small towns and even
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: big towns.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. I think one of the ones
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: that intrigued me was when you had Stockton University hosted Haiti.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: That was an interesting one, too. Go ahead, Candy.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a lot of these are interesting. Wake
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: Forest held Germany. Bryant University had Ghana. University of Portland
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: had Jordan. New Zealand was at the University of San Diego. Norway,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 7: University of North Carolina, Greensboro.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: Senegal, Rutgers University, Egypt, Gonzaga University, Caraco, Florida Atlantic University,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 7: and they held them at the soccer stadium, not their
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: football stadium.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that right? Really?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. Yes, that was the training venue. It was FAU
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: Soccer Stadium.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: Well, that's why I'm here, to help. Add to the topic.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Great stuff. Yeah.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: So, I mean, I think it's cool.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. No, that's okay. I mean, I just think
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: it's pretty interesting. I'm looking for, let's talk about the
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: fact that how NC State helped the Canes win the
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup. First of all, what's your reaction, Cliff, about
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: the fact that obviously we know the connection between NC
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: State and Carolina because they play in the same area
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: of them winning the Stanley Cup to begin with.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's basically, you know, the university, they
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: pushed to have the new basketball arena, and that basically
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: helped bring the franchise there to Raleigh. And so this
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: goes way, way, way back to– when the Whalers went
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: down there. So they had a part in them even
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: coming there. But the thing is that that was a
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: big part of that. They got the arena there. They
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: got them there. And since they've been there, they've won twice.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: They just won last year, and they won back in 2006. Um,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: and you know, so it's, you know, so they, they, they,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: they found a way to, uh, help expand, uh, hockey
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: into the area for them. It was a sad day
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: for Hartford, but I mean, it's based in Hartford, it's
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: a small town, but, um, but you know, so they found,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: and that's basically what really brought them there. That's how
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: they got them there. That's how it, how, how that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: helped them get there. Um, and, uh, I'm sure, uh,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: the Peter Caramanos and the Carolina Hurricanes are happy they
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: did move down there because they didn't really win too
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: much with Hartford even though even though they were pretty
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: good when they first popped up in the WHA but
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: and you were talking like.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 8: Gordie Howe was there too eventually but yeah so yeah
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: that's basically the whole thing with it is NC State
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: just kind of like helping them come down and helping
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: them get the space that they needed to want to
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 8: come to Raleigh.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's quite a summary. John, some thoughts? Yeah.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: The school and the arena share a parking lot. When
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: I went down to the stadium series a couple of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: years ago, we actually parked in the arena parking lot,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: and it's right next door to the stadium. the football
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: stadium where North Carolina State, the Wolfpack, play. And they actually,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: that's where they played, was on the football field, Caps
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: and Canes. When we went in there, they actually had
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: the team shop inside Lenovo open so people could go
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: back and forth from the football stadium to go buy,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: you know, jerseys and sweaters and hats and pennants and things. So,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, they are right next to each other. And
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  Speaker 4: if you ever get a chance to see an outdoor game,
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  Speaker 4: I recommend it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I have on it, obviously, is a
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  Speaker 2: partnership goes back as far as Jimmy V. Okay, NC
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  Speaker 2: State and Jimmy V wanted a new arena. The Triangle
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  Speaker 2: Creek needed it to create entertainment options for incoming RTP
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  Speaker 2: corporate employees. ESA was pitched. North Carolina State offset. the
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  Speaker 2: wrist and front, and Faith brought them to the Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a high in the same story. I think
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  Speaker 2: there was Jimmy Valvano wanted a new arena. We all
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  Speaker 2: know how Jimmy Valvano is revered there. That's what I
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  Speaker 2: was looking for. I'm glad you guys picked it up.
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  Speaker 2: Anything else you guys want to add to it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they play in the same court as the Canes.
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  Speaker 6: Literally, you take off the floor for the basketball court
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  Speaker 6: for NC State Wolfpack, and you got the ice.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 6: Like, it's right there. I mean, I think I talked
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  Speaker 6: about this once. I went there for a NC State
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  Speaker 6: Clemson game, and literally two hours later, they were taking
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: off the ice for the Canes to play the Kings.
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  Speaker 6: I watched the entire thing, which was an awesome experience.
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  Speaker 6: As far as NC State helping the Canes win, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they're going to show up because, I mean, that's where
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  Speaker 6: NC State fans come to watch their basketball teams play.
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  Speaker 6: even though the women's play at Reynolds Arena back on campus.
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  Speaker 6: And Lenovo Center is still technically a part of campus
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  Speaker 6: because it's just a big stretch of agricultural, the state fair,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: just going all the way down Hillsborough Street is just massive.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you've got just lines and lines and lines
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  Speaker 6: of just campus property. And, yeah, you're going to come
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  Speaker 6: out to see the Canes win. If their Canes are
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: doing well, NC State fans, NC State personnel, players– You
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: name it. Even UNC and Duke fans are going to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 6: make it happen. If Wake Forest can come out there, sure,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: but it's more Tobacco Road. Seeing their players, seeing a
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: professional team actually make a championship run. That's how they
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: made it happen. The people that are waving those towels,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: I want to say about 75% of those fans are
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: NC State and Duke and UNC fans. So, yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Candy, some closing thoughts on it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, let's face it. Anytime you can bring that
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 7: energy to it, kudos to them. Kudos to them for
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 7: expanding their reach, honestly. It's a good thing. And I'll
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: leave it at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the bottom line is, anytime Jimmy Valvano's behind,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: we know how iconic the guy is. It's unbelievable. They
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: obviously got the benefit. But I like the fact that
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Cliff mentioned Gordie Howe, or somebody mentioned Gordie Howe. Was
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: it you, John? But yeah, Gordie Howe obviously played there.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: And then you obviously have the Hartford Whalers. I hated
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: to see the Whalers lose a team that really did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The Whales still sell a lot of merch.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They still honor them.
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  Speaker 3: I got a Whalers jersey 10 feet away from me
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they got Whalers at Lenovo Center every year.
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  Speaker 3: I always love watching that. That was great watching them
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: against Colorado when they were in the Quebec jerseys. Both
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: of them were in the flat throwback jerseys. That was
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: just beautiful.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: They're sweet. They're pretty dirty.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: I got one of those, too. I got a Quebec
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: up in my thing there, too. But I do find
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: it not interesting that the NC State and the Carolina
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: Hurricanes share the same colors.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Now that I didn't know. Now listen,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: I know what I need you guys to break down
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: the topic as thorough as you can. You do it.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: We can get one-on-one interviews in here like Lucas and
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: I had. I could let John and Cliff go over
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: all this stuff, break it down all day long. And
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Lewis' candor is unbelievable and Candy's research is even better.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: But that sounds But that does conclude this edition of
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Sports Exchange. We're not done yet because Cliff is going
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: to let everybody know they can reach him.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: Well, you can always get me on Facebook. I'm on Facebook,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: Cliff Neal. I teeter around, I'm playing around on Instagram
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit, just teasing a little bit on Twitter.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: And I can be seen here every week on Wednesday
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: nights on the Sports Exchange right here with Scott Morganroth
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: and my other wonderful cast members. of crazy people, you know,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: bringing all our great insight here.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we'd do this stuff after nine because we
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: are crazy, right? All right, John.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Well, tomorrow night I will be on a sports rep.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: I'm here Wednesdays on sports exchange. You can find me
• 1:42:00
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• 1:42:11
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  Speaker 2: Go cancel.
• 1:42:16
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• 1:42:21
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• 1:42:26
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  Speaker 2: All right, Candy, take us home.
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  Speaker 2: John, brother. I'll play that one for you, Johnny. I
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• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: conclude this edition of Sports Machine. Great job by Cliff.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll have Jason back this week to get his
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: technical stuff done. But either way, I love the guy. John,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: you know how I feel about you. Lucas, man, you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: are amazing, brother. You get bitter with every darn show.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: You just This group is always a lot of fun
• 1:46:09
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• 1:46:12
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• 1:46:14
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• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: that does it. We're at our 11 o'clock bedtime tonight.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: So on behalf of Cliff, John, Lucas, and Candy, my
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: name is Scott Morganoff, Motor City Man. Thank you for
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: joining us. Everybody have a good night. We'll see you
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: next week at 9 o'clock p.m. Eastern time. God bless.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: Have a nice day. And thanks for joining us. Bye now.