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- 0:00Yo, one of the largest news publications in the world has
- 0:04just released a bombshell article explaining how Bitcoin
- 0:08could hit a $280 trillion market cap.
- 0:12The article referenced a lot of reasons of why we could see
- 0:15Bitcoin flying to the millions of dollars per coin, but one of
- 0:19them has to do with the potential of America using
- 0:21Bitcoin to extend the dominance of the US dollar.
- 0:25I know icky, icky concept here guys, but there are now 21
- 0:29countries she's talking about implementing a strategic Bitcoin
- 0:32reserve. And it looks like the trend that
- 0:34Donald Trump started is only accelerating.
- 0:37So will Donald Trump unleash an American Bitcoin strategic
- 0:41reserve to wipe out EU s s debt of $36 trillion?
- 0:48I think only time will tell. We got about what, two weeks
- 0:51until we know this answer? But let's dive straight into
- 0:54this guys, because this whopper of an article over at Forbes,
- 1:00it's super interesting. And of course, I'm not alone
- 1:03today, guys, I'm here with our A-Team off the bench, Brandon
- 1:07Gentile, have you bro? And then of course, adjacent
- 1:10sellers from Join or Satlantis. So here we go.
- 1:16Got to go live the article from Forbes tipping point crypto
- 1:21brace for a $280 trillion price big reserve after Trump picks.
- 1:27So diving into the article a little bit Donald Trump the US
- 1:31president-elect has helped the Bitcoin a surge to record highs
- 1:34this year with plans to establish AUS Bitcoin strategic
- 1:38reserve. Of course, we all saw price of
- 1:40Bitcoin basically double since he won the election.
- 1:46And then we've been sings about other country.
- 1:49He's doing a strategic Bitcoin reserve recently.
- 1:53The big big Kahoon is essentially, you know, Russia
- 1:55could beat the US to a Bitcoin strategic reserve.
- 1:58And you know, Trump has pitched a capital markets renaissance
- 2:02fueled by Bitcoin to unlock trillions in the wealth, as
- 2:07Michael said. Now moving forward, here's a
- 2:09tweet and this is where this article basically gets headline
- 2:13from and this is quoting Saylor. A strategic digital asset policy
- 2:17can strengthen the US dollar, neutralize the national debt and
- 2:20position America as the global leader in the 21st century
- 2:23digital economy. And Saylor wrote a so-called
- 2:27digital asset framework. And this document outlines plans
- 2:30for AUS Bitcoin Reserve predicted to generate $16
- 2:34trillion to $80 trillion to off offset the US national debt
- 2:39that's spired to over 36 trillion this year and, quote,
- 2:43solidify the US dollar as the foundation of the 21st century
- 2:46digital financial system. And then they just up the
- 2:50updated this article because Trump announced that he's
- 2:53appointing Bo Hines as the executive director of the newly
- 2:57created Presidential Council of Advisors for digital assets
- 3:00known as the Crypto Council. And here's a 12 from True
- 3:04Social. In his new role, Bo will work
- 3:07with David to foster innovation and growth, asset space while
- 3:12ensuring industry leaders have the resources they need to
- 3:15succeed. And of course, he's going to be
- 3:17alongside David Sacks. And now moving forward, we have
- 3:21Heinz, a transition from the Trump.
- 3:24Trump transition team spokesperson says there has been
- 3:27an effort in the Washington bureaucratic swamp to stifle
- 3:30innovation, but President Trump will deliver on his promise to
- 3:33encourage American leadership in crypto.
- 3:37And then also we heard over the Trump appointed the pro Bitcoin
- 3:41Stephen Mirren as a former Treasury official from the first
- 3:45Trump White House to be the chair of the economic advisers.
- 3:49So it's looking like Trump is building a very pro Bitcoin
- 3:53administration now get these numbers here.
- 3:56And this is where sailor did a pitch and you guys can catch us
- 3:59on Twitter about this. You know digital it's framework
- 4:03among other eye-catching numbers sailors pitch and visions
- 4:06expanding quote global digital capital markets from $2 trillion
- 4:10to 200 and trillion dollars with US investors captured of this
- 4:15wealth and driving growth in digital assets from 1 trillion
- 4:20to 590 trillion with the dominating this industry.
- 4:24So it looks guys like we are going to see a very pro Bitcoin
- 4:30administration and you know, we've seen a lot of proposals
- 4:34coming out of it's a Bitcoin policy interested etc about a
- 4:39strategic Bitcoin reserve and now we're seeing that it's
- 4:42obviously catching on. I think the big question here is
- 4:45whether this happens day one or within the 1st 100 days of, of
- 4:50the big or the Trump administration looking like this
- 4:52is a very serious conversation. And as you're seeing, the game
- 4:55theory is playing out and more countries are starting to follow
- 4:58suit. And that just means that they're
- 5:00forcing the hand of the Trump administration.
- 5:02And now they basically have to announce a strategic Bitcoin
- 5:06reserve or else we get left behind.
- 5:10Now, I know a lot of big corners out there when you kind of talk
- 5:13about extending the dollar dominance of a, a touchy topic
- 5:16here, but we know this is the conversation that's happening.
- 5:19We knew this was going to happen and it seems like they are
- 5:22taking it very seriously. And so we'll see, you know,
- 5:25within two weeks, 3 weeks, what exactly happens day one.
- 5:29We'll see what happens within the 1st 100 days of the
- 5:31administration. But it looks like the Trump
- 5:33administration is very seriously talking about embracing Bitcoin.
- 5:38We even saw him at Turning Point USA conference this weekend
- 5:42essentially congratulating Bitcoiners for 108K Bitcoin.
- 5:47It looks like Trump is actually becoming a Bitcoiner.
- 5:50I know a lot of us will say, hey, he doesn't understand
- 5:52Bitcoin, but he is becoming a Bitcoiner.
- 5:57Anyways, let me pass this over. I'm going to pass it over to
- 6:01Brandon. And Brandon, what's your
- 6:03thoughts on this Forbes article? What's your thoughts on Trump
- 6:05embracing Bitcoin? Yeah, I, I think it's, it's,
- 6:12it's beyond bullish. You know, I, there's a couple of
- 6:15really good podcast recently, Preston did his his macro
- 6:19hangout. Jeff Booth was on Canutes the
- 6:22other day. There's so many good speakers
- 6:25out there right now and, and great really philosophical
- 6:28thinkers and Bitcoin thinkers that out outlining what what's
- 6:31happening and the, the possibilities are, are really,
- 6:36I, I think endless. And, and I think that that's
- 6:38where this the, the Trump thing and people get it twisted with,
- 6:43oh, why are politicians doing this?
- 6:44Why are they doing that? Why is the nation state getting
- 6:46involved in into Bitcoin, etcetera, etcetera.
- 6:49We want it on the tip of everyone's tongue.
- 6:50You know, you want Bitcoin on the tip of every single person's
- 6:53tongue, every politician's tongue.
- 6:54And, and I, I do think there's this, the thing we have to
- 6:57acknowledge though, is that, you know, the US strategic reserve,
- 7:00if they're going to start with this confiscated Bitcoin that
- 7:03they took from other people, I think we have to acknowledge
- 7:04that number one. So the truth has to be the
- 7:07truth. And, and they did take it from
- 7:08other people. So we have to acknowledge that.
- 7:10I don't know how we're going to rectify that or what we're going
- 7:12to ever do with that. And, and if we have anything we
- 7:14can do other than just voicing what's what's happening.
- 7:16But we starting from there this again, with the amount of
- 7:21Bitcoin that comes out, you know, every year diminishing or
- 7:23every four years diminishing and the, the supply available, it,
- 7:27it's only going to obviously have the, the price increase as
- 7:30time goes forward. And I think that it's hard.
- 7:33The exponential function is what's very hard for humans to
- 7:36grasp. And we just, we've never seen
- 7:38anything like this. And I saw someone in here again
- 7:40say they're going to stack lockdowns with, you know, other
- 7:44health events and etcetera. They probably will.
- 7:46I mean, it's, it's weird how quiet some of these things are,
- 7:49or one side of the aisle seems to be very quiet, which is very
- 7:53odd. And so I, I think there are some
- 7:55tricks up to sleeve. They're not going to go away
- 7:57quietly. And, and I mean when I mean,
- 7:59when I say they, I mean evil spirits.
- 8:01Let's, let's get it. I, I, I don't care what's left,
- 8:03right up or down, whatever. Evil spirits do not like truth.
- 8:06Evil spirits do not want to be disinfected by light and period,
- 8:10end of story. They do not go quietly.
- 8:13And, and evil knows no boundaries and knows no either
- 8:15side of the road. Like I said, it doesn't matter
- 8:16what political spectrum or aisle you're looking at, it does not
- 8:20matter. So truth is truth.
- 8:21The further you get away from from truth, the harder your
- 8:24life's going to be. Bitcoin is truth, God is truth,
- 8:27Bitcoin is truth. These things for you get away
- 8:29from from truth, the harder your life is, period, right.
- 8:31So this this is the, this the fight of the day.
- 8:34It's politics down here. Then it's the the money layer
- 8:37you see, which is about. But then you see evil spirits
- 8:39and good spirits, the, I think Maxwell's hierarchy of needs,
- 8:42the highest level, the self actualization is understanding
- 8:45and realizing that we're in a fight.
- 8:46We're in a battle between good and evil, right and wrong,
- 8:49period. And until people start
- 8:50understanding that and this fight doesn't end just because
- 8:53your guy wins or because Bitcoin, you know, of a Bitcoin
- 8:57reserve or whatever the heck it is, this stuff doesn't end.
- 9:00And I think that's what's got us into so much trouble over the
- 9:02last 100 years is we just, hey, you know, let's wash our hands.
- 9:05If it's great, we have the Declaration independence, we've
- 9:07got the Constitution. Hey, we've got you know,
- 9:10whatever, we just won this before our time's finished here.
- 9:13Like I can go on to my life. This stuff doesn't end.
- 9:15So we have to stay diligent for as long as you're alive.
- 9:20You have to train your kids to be diligent.
- 9:22And again, I can rant on this river.
- 9:24I'm getting off on tangents here up to you.
- 9:26So I hope, I hope you're not crackling up over there and
- 9:28going and we can hear you and see it.
- 9:29But it's this this to me. I could not be more passionate
- 9:32about this. And we've only begun to see
- 9:34what's going to happen when all of a sudden you have the US jump
- 9:38into this game and all of a sudden it sets off this goal,
- 9:41global hash rates, which we're seeing now.
- 9:43And this only leads to one thing, which is it devouring the
- 9:46entire economic system. Over time.
- 9:48People want to, oh, it's going to strengthen the dollar.
- 9:50It could. It could for like a day or two
- 9:52or could for a month or two. We know where this is going.
- 9:54It destroys the entire system. This breaks all your models.
- 9:56And it aligns all the incentives for all of us, you know,
- 9:59consumers, producers. It's going to be an amazing
- 10:01thing. Buckle up.
- 10:03Totally, Brandon. And yeah, guys, sorry, this
- 10:05Internet at my parents house is acting up right now, so
- 10:08hopefully it's coming through. I know it's a little pixelated,
- 10:11so I'll probably off camera as much as possible.
- 10:14But anyway, let's pass it over to Jason.
- 10:16Hopefully my audio is coming in good.
- 10:17Jason, what's your thoughts on this Forbes article?
- 10:21Yeah, Firstly, I want to echo everything that Brandon just
- 10:24said there, that maybe this does help the US dollar for a little
- 10:29while. But The thing is, with or
- 10:32without Bitcoin, the US dollar is going to go the way of every
- 10:35Fiat currency. Every single Fiat currency
- 10:37throughout all mankind has always died.
- 10:40It's only a matter of time. And so sure, maybe Bitcoin can
- 10:45prop it up, give it a, a, a last, last little bit of
- 10:48adrenaline while it's going through its death throes, but
- 10:50that's, that's it. That's all it can ever do.
- 10:53So I guess another important thing to remember is that
- 10:59Bitcoin is bigger than any country, even all countries
- 11:02combined. There are three things I always
- 11:04say that Bitcoin relies on, and that is math, physics, and
- 11:11basically I was going to say human greed, but what's the
- 11:15other game theory? It's connected to human greed.
- 11:18But as long as those three things exist, as long as people
- 11:21still want what people want, that's the game theory part.
- 11:24As long as physics still works, and as long as math still works,
- 11:26and all three of those things are bigger than any and all
- 11:29countries combined, then Bitcoin will still work.
- 11:33And so while the United States, Russia, or anywhere else might
- 11:37leverage Bitcoin for a time, that's all they can do for a
- 11:40time. The nation states will come and
- 11:44go. Presidents will come and go no
- 11:45matter what you feel about them. Go to bad presents, kings,
- 11:48whatever they are, they will come and go.
- 11:50Bitcoin is forever. That's all I got to say.
- 11:53Let's go. I love that.
- 11:54Hold on. I think some horns are are do
- 11:58there. Yeah, totally agree.
- 12:01I mean, I think as a Bitcoiner, we, we all know that eventually
- 12:05Bitcoin will ensure or hopefully make a smaller government.
- 12:10Obviously we know that the government is backed and
- 12:11politicians are backed by the money printer.
- 12:13So we're still in this time right now where, hey, politics
- 12:16matters. And I think it's very important
- 12:18actually. I'm going to pass it to Brandon
- 12:19here because I know you have a good rant on this one about
- 12:22Bitcoiners getting involved in politics and what's the what's
- 12:25the Plato quote that you always mention.
- 12:29Yeah, if you're not involved in politics, you're going to be
- 12:30governed by your inferiors. And it's just the story of life
- 12:34again, you know, it's unfortunately, you know, truth.
- 12:38You know, people generally are good.
- 12:42All humans are, are created good.
- 12:43It's just again, it's these evil spirits that that take a hold of
- 12:47of the cracked vase. You know, they, they seep into
- 12:50vessels that they can find that are, are are down.
- 12:54And it's, it's humans are inherently good, though.
- 12:59And so this is where we all think most of us, because most
- 13:03people are still good. We're in, we are good people
- 13:06just day-to-day. So we think that people aren't
- 13:08going to do bad things. We just think, why would, why
- 13:11would Elizabeth Warren do this? Why would this person do that?
- 13:13Why would they go against our own good well-being?
- 13:16And, and it just because we are in this battle, this spiritual
- 13:19battle, that is it's ephemeral. It's you can't see it.
- 13:22It's invisible, right? So this is, this is the fight we
- 13:25are in. And that's why it's so
- 13:26incredibly hard. It's, it's why it's hard to see
- 13:28Bitcoin for a lot of people because it is digital.
- 13:30It's, it's ephemeral. It's, it's carrying your wealth
- 13:32in your head. That's we're in the information
- 13:34age and in the invisible age, it's very hard to see what's
- 13:37going on, that the fight we're in is, is on so many levels
- 13:40ephemeral that it is hard for the, for a human just to kind of
- 13:43see it. We talked about the experiment,
- 13:45the exponential part of this as well.
- 13:47We have a hard time seeing obviously the invisible being
- 13:51tuned into it again when you're on the hamster wheel all the
- 13:53time of Fiat purposely that we've been put on the hamster
- 13:56wheel so we can't see these things.
- 13:57We don't spend time with ourselves just alone thinking
- 14:00and pondering using our you know, I the thing I always think
- 14:03of is humans were given 6 higher faculties and animals are given
- 14:075 senses. We have 5 senses too.
- 14:09Most humans just rely on their five senses along with animals
- 14:13and they don't differentiate themselves with the six higher
- 14:15faculties of, and I might not miss one here, but will a
- 14:18reason, imagination, perception, memory and intuition.
- 14:23So if you're not using those things, then you are the same as
- 14:27an animal. And it's going to be very hard
- 14:28to figure out what's going on in the world to make good
- 14:30decisions, make the right, you know, make the correct call.
- 14:32But what keeps us on that hamster wheel just using the
- 14:34five senses? Well, it's Fiat, right?
- 14:36It's, it's this system, this matrix that people are put on in
- 14:39these little energy pods that you're, you're, you know, sucked
- 14:42into that you just have to keep the you're keeping the lights on
- 14:44for the ruling class. You're keeping the lights on for
- 14:46the rest of the world through this monetary system.
- 14:48They make you force you to use so you can't see outside and use
- 14:51these six higher faculties to understand what's actually
- 14:53happening in the world. And it's it's the most insidious
- 14:56game I've ever seen in my life. It it it's again, it's a good
- 14:59first evil spirits, but it starts at this political level
- 15:02at the bottom, you know, and you have to climb your way up.
- 15:04Once you start leveling up, you start seeing these different
- 15:06levels of the game that are played.
- 15:07Politics is that first base level that's very tough and you
- 15:11have to get through that somehow, but you have to be
- 15:12involved in it. It's just so many good people
- 15:15kind of just stand by the wayside.
- 15:16And when evil is is able to fester, when good people stand
- 15:20up or, you know, sit down and and say nothing.
- 15:23So it's continually calling these things out, educating, you
- 15:25know, we're in the holiday season, Obviously Christmas and
- 15:27New Year's and and Thanksgiving just passed and people around
- 15:30people. So when people are saying
- 15:31ridiculous things, it's not my nature to necessarily just go
- 15:34call someone out out of the blue.
- 15:36It's probably not most humans nature, but we do have to stand
- 15:38on guard for truth, for be the light that isn't disinfecting
- 15:42the darkness and and say, Hey, you know what, there might be a
- 15:45different way. You don't have to be mean about
- 15:46things, but you have to be involved.
- 15:48And politically that is politically, it's not just, oh,
- 15:50I'm going to APTA meeting or I'm going to vote is voting with our
- 15:53wallet, is voting with our voice, you know, saying, Hey, I
- 15:56think there's a different way, you know, Uncle Joe, I think
- 15:58there's a different way to think about that.
- 15:59And, and being that person, then other people hear you, other
- 16:01people see that it courage, you know, courage is contagious.
- 16:05So standing up, just saying something, voicing a different
- 16:07opinion, saying, you know what, I appreciate that.
- 16:09But I think I think this way or whatever.
- 16:11So it can be in these different ways.
- 16:12And I think good people have just sat down for so long and
- 16:16been content. And again, we have this problem
- 16:17of apathy in America for 100 years plus years of being in a
- 16:21place of such wealth and prosperity that it's, it's
- 16:24enabled our this lifestyle to just kind of go along and say,
- 16:26you know what, it's OK, I'll love this one slide.
- 16:29I'll wait to the next one type of mentality.
- 16:30And it just, it can't happen anymore.
- 16:32And that's where the Plato quote comes from.
- 16:34Being involved politically again doesn't just mean pulling a
- 16:37lever, but it means in all areas of life being involved and being
- 16:40just a citizen, a human and standing up for truth is what
- 16:44helps correct this and and lead us back down that that true
- 16:47path. Love it Brandon couldn't agree
- 16:50more couldn't agree more well guys we have a lot to talk about
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- 21:04you guys anyways, I'm here on Clark Moody's dashboard and the
- 21:07current Bitcoin price is $93,250 per Bitcoin.
- 21:12The stats per dollar, 1072 stats per dollar.
- 21:16The block height is 876,000 and 59.
- 21:20I repeat 76059. The Bitcoin market cap.
- 21:23Dang, we had, we, we, we, we're struggling for that 2 trillion.
- 21:27We're at 1.85 surely in the Bitcoin first gold market cap is
- 21:30at 10.12% and the total percentage of Bitcoin that will
- 21:35end currently at 94.28% with roughly 19.79 million Bitcoin in
- 21:42circulation now moving forward. This is the numbers guys.
- 21:45And one of the things I think, you know, Brandon brought it up
- 21:48earlier, everyone's going back for the holidays.
- 21:51You're going to be chatting with your friend and your family.
- 21:54Well, it looks like we might have a new chart out here, guys.
- 21:57It looks like, as we've been saying forever, a message that
- 22:01get lost on everyone out here. When we're trying to show
- 22:03Bitcoin to people, it's very simply that Bitcoin is the best
- 22:08performing asset ever. And then we got this chart here,
- 22:11guys. Bitcoin is the best performing
- 22:13asset the last 11 out of the 14 years.
- 22:17And we have Michael Mcdonaghue from Bloomberg here just
- 22:21explaining Bitcoin once again leads a pack.
- 22:24Here's a snapshot of my global annual most multi asset return
- 22:28matrix. And it might be a little hard
- 22:30for you guys to see that this I, I was a little confused when I
- 22:34first saw this as well. You can see here at the top
- 22:37Bloomberg Gallatin index at the top year today, it's been
- 22:42leading 1118 years. The only years it hasn't LED was
- 22:4520/14/2018 and 2022. And of course, Bitcoin this year
- 22:52year today is still the best performing app.
- 22:55I said in the world, this is a message that we need to keep
- 22:59explaining the people all the time.
- 23:01I literally had this conversation with my brother.
- 23:04He was talking about Bitcoin. Should I be buying?
- 23:06I'm like, bro, Bitcoin is the best savings vehicle period is
- 23:11the best way to save your money. And now we have the data and the
- 23:15charts to back it up. As you guys can see, you know
- 23:17Bitcoin has been outperforming everything the last 11 of 14, 15
- 23:23years. Bitcoin is the best performing
- 23:25asset, the best performing asset the last 15 years.
- 23:28If you just buy a huddle, don't go out your Bitcoin, you're
- 23:32going to get wrecked. Literally use Bitcoin as a
- 23:34savings vehicle and you will outperform everything else in
- 23:38the market. It's so simple.
- 23:40Everyone, everyone wants to complicate things, but it's
- 23:43really it's simple as just and holding that Bitcoin, continuing
- 23:46to buy more Bitcoin. This is how you win.
- 23:48It's the simplest strategy ever. Everyone loves to complicate it
- 23:53anyway. Don't pass it to Jason.
- 23:54You know, you work Bitcoin, you have a family.
- 23:57What do you think about this chart and what do you tell
- 24:00everyone else that's going to be asking you, hey, should I be
- 24:02buying some Bitcoin this holiday season?
- 24:08Yeah, I say just look at the trend.
- 24:09Of course, you know, as I say, you know, past performance
- 24:12doesn't necessarily mean necessarily mean future
- 24:17performance, but still, like we also say, you know, don't don't
- 24:22trust verify. I mean, these are verifiable
- 24:24numbers you can look at here. And there's a reason for it.
- 24:27It's not just because it's a hype, a 16 year long hype.
- 24:30But anyway, it's not just hype. You know, there's, you know,
- 24:33verifiably only 21 million and and then several million that
- 24:37have been lost and only like another million or a little more
- 24:41than another million left to go over the next like 100 and 15116
- 24:46years. So oh, yeah, yeah.
- 24:51So I just told them those things.
- 24:52Those were all verifiable facts, I guess.
- 24:54Yeah. One thing I also tell people a
- 24:56lot is my family members and friends is that we know there's
- 25:00only going to be a certain amount, and we know more people
- 25:02are learning about it every day. Put those two things together
- 25:06and there's only one option that you got to buy some now before
- 25:08other people figure it out. 100% couldn't agree more And Brandon,
- 25:15what's your thoughts on this chart?
- 25:17Are you going to be using this Orange fell friends?
- 25:19And actually we were kind of joking about this before the
- 25:22show. Are you Are you ready to beat
- 25:23your friends and family over the head with I am right today I've
- 25:27been right. Are you going to listen to me?
- 25:30Oh, absolutely, absolutely. That's I mean, you have to at
- 25:33the end of the day, Yeah, it's to the victor goes and spoils.
- 25:37But no, I mean, seriously, I think that the one thing like
- 25:40these charts like this, they make you realize that in this
- 25:44Fiat world, like we were talking about earlier, it's distorted
- 25:46everything. And in the investing, we have to
- 25:48be an investing expert in order to be successful in the Fiat
- 25:53world that we live in this Fiat matrix.
- 25:55And, and what confuses a lot of that, we as we were talking
- 25:57about this offline, we were talking about how Wall Street
- 25:59and a lot of these guys, they and we've all, we've all had to
- 26:02go to the gauntlet. We've all had to humble
- 26:04ourselves in order to see this and to see Bitcoin.
- 26:06Bitcoin is not an IQ test. It's a, it's a humility
- 26:09exercise. It's a humility test and can you
- 26:12understand that the life you were living was generally wrong?
- 26:15The things you've been taught are wrong.
- 26:16That's very hard for humans to understand and grasp and humble
- 26:21themselves to and accept. And you get a lot of the Wall
- 26:24Street guys, they're they're investing experts, but it's in a
- 26:26Fiat matrix that they're in. So they might be great at
- 26:29raising cash and good old boys club and, you know, doing the,
- 26:33you know, the Wall Street, you know, after hours parties,
- 26:35that's great. But that we're in a different
- 26:37world. We're going to a different
- 26:38paradigm. And because you're an investing
- 26:41expert, people just extrapolate that over to, well, they must be
- 26:44a monetary expert, that he just must be great with his money.
- 26:47He must be a savings expert. And what people don't see is
- 26:50those things are all different. Those aren't the same things.
- 26:53So you have the Warren Buffett's the world or you know, a lot of
- 26:56these guys are all the way down to the, the, the peon on Wall
- 26:58Street who just started and, and just got a did a series 7 and it
- 27:02came out of whatever Harvard. Everyone looks these guys and
- 27:05thinks all these guys are geniuses.
- 27:06These guys are, they are wonderful.
- 27:07They're so brilliant and they can be like, they could have
- 27:09very high Iqs and, and that as such, but they don't understand
- 27:13monetary history, most of them because they never had to.
- 27:16And, and that's where it gets very hard to see these things.
- 27:18So the, the talk that I've had with my family over time were,
- 27:21were those simple things of understanding what money is and,
- 27:25and why are we trading our finite time on earth.
- 27:28And, and before Bitcoin was discovered, 'cause I do think
- 27:31it's a discovery. I think all these things are
- 27:32discoveries. And, and yes, there's, there's
- 27:34an invention to it and, and put it, but it's really to me, these
- 27:38things were available, you know, 1000 years ago, you could have
- 27:40had Bitcoin technically, you could have had planes, trains,
- 27:43automobiles, but humans weren't ready.
- 27:45The, the, the technologies themselves individually, that
- 27:48those things were not there yet, right?
- 27:49Humans, their collective conscious was not together yet
- 27:51in order to do it and into fashion it.
- 27:54So the things I talked to my family about are loved ones, the
- 27:57people that will listen is, is the, hey, why are we trading our
- 28:00finite time for infinite piece of paper, infinite liabilities,
- 28:04You know, the, the dollar, these Fiat currencies are obviously
- 28:06they're liabilities. They're not assets and for a
- 28:09long time we've treat them like they're assets and you know,
- 28:12they definitely weren't after ninety 1971.
- 28:15You can argue before that, but those, those big macro things
- 28:19are that are what people have to understand in order to start
- 28:21peeling back those layers and accepting the truth.
- 28:24And and obviously, once you start going down that road, then
- 28:26you can start questioning all these other things.
- 28:28Like we always joke about whether it's JFK all the way
- 28:30down the road. You start like peeling back
- 28:32these layers of wait, if if they're lying about this, what
- 28:34else are they lying about? What are what else are they
- 28:36doing to to misalign things for me and pulling my the the the
- 28:41wool over my eyes with So that to me is the big thing.
- 28:44I share the grass and I think it meeting people where they are to
- 28:47your point out to you showing I have some finance, you know,
- 28:50brothers in laws that are finance guys.
- 28:52That's a hey church like this. They love stuff like that.
- 28:55Then there's, you know, the the some people that I know that
- 28:58they they want something different.
- 28:59They want to talk about freedom tech or, you know, things like
- 29:01that. So it's just meeting people
- 29:02where they are in that common, you know, sales approach, I
- 29:04guess in a way of, but truly at this point, I, I have people now
- 29:09that, yes, finally they're starting to come out of the
- 29:11woodwork. Price is 100 and they're, you
- 29:12know, OK, yeah, hey, I want to talk about that.
- 29:15So they're sending memes and stuff like that.
- 29:16So everyone has that different price.
- 29:18And Jason, you were saying earlier I might have been
- 29:20offline that, you know, it's a need to know basis like Sailor
- 29:22says. And everyone, everyone gets it
- 29:24at the price. They deserve it.
- 29:25It's true. You know, and when you have the
- 29:27ears to hear and the eyes to see, eventually you will, you
- 29:29will get it when you, when you're hurting enough, like
- 29:31Sailor was in a way. Right.
- 29:33That's the thing. I really quick, I don't think
- 29:35you'll get it about Sailor either.
- 29:36Sailor was about to sell his company.
- 29:37He was, you know, like what am I going to do?
- 29:38Am I going to sell my company? Am I going to offload it?
- 29:41What am I going to do? I'm going to take a buyout.
- 29:43What's going to happen? He doesn't have to go do any of
- 29:46this. That's the wild part.
- 29:48And this has been a theme I've seen a few people talk about.
- 29:50And it's this mission, right? Bitcoin is a mission.
- 29:53It's it's it's life as we know. That's why I started with truth
- 29:56earlier and evil spirits was good spirits because it's, it's
- 29:59no one bought Google or Apple stock and changed their life and
- 30:02said, I'm a changed person. I'm, I'm setting my sight on on
- 30:05Apple the rest of my life. And I'm going to go evangelize
- 30:07Apple or Microsoft or Google stock because it doesn't change
- 30:10you. Bitcoin changes you because it
- 30:12changes everything we know about the life we've lived.
- 30:14That's the mission. That's what we talk about when
- 30:16we say be on the mission. It's because every person that
- 30:19you know that understands Bitcoin, they've changed somehow
- 30:22that's changed their life and they're on this mission.
- 30:23Generally, a lot of us have been compelled and incentivized to go
- 30:26talk about this thing that we've learned about and in like we
- 30:29said, joked up, beat people over the head with it because it's so
- 30:32obvious once you see it that it you, you, you're forced to go
- 30:35talk about it. But no one's ever done that with
- 30:37Fiat. And, and as evidenced by Fiat,
- 30:40everyone constantly trying to sell their dollars or sell their
- 30:44Fiat in order to buy assets with it.
- 30:46They don't believe in the Fiat because they're trying to get
- 30:49out of it constantly. So it's meeting people where
- 30:52they are at the end of the day. I, I think that this time of
- 30:54year is great for whatever reason.
- 30:55Again, the cycles are set up so that we, we're always together,
- 30:59whether it's before you're having cycles during elections.
- 31:01So it's always going to be this thing.
- 31:03And then also it tends to do this during holidays, which I
- 31:05think is amazing. And again, it's just a, a wink
- 31:08of the simulation in a way. I think.
- 31:09And I, I think that you have to just meet people where, where
- 31:12they are and, and, and how we, we approach them.
- 31:15Totally. Actually, I want to put you guys
- 31:17on the spot right now. What are you guys going to tell
- 31:21your friends and family if they should be buying Bitcoin at
- 31:24100K? Jason, I'm going to go with you
- 31:26first. What is your TLDR?
- 31:292 minute pitch when you are asked should I be buying Bitcoin
- 31:32at 100 Ki? Always reply.
- 31:35I mean yes I've been asked that lots of times.
- 31:38Not just 100K other prices too. But I always say depends on how
- 31:41long you can keep it, if you can hold on to it.
- 31:44I mean, people say four years because of the first cycle.
- 31:46I just round to a nice, nice round five.
- 31:48If, if you're not playing a touch for five years, yes, it's
- 31:51always a great time to buy Bitcoin.
- 31:53But if they're expecting to, to be able to sell it, if they're
- 31:56intending to sell it ever, they're intending to sell it in
- 32:00the next year or so. I'm like, Nah, it's even here at
- 32:03the beginning of the bull market.
- 32:04I, I don't know the future. I don't know what Black Swan
- 32:06events could happen. So I don't want to be that
- 32:08person, say yes, yes, now is the time.
- 32:10So I always put it on the the time frame saying if you can
- 32:15hold it for for this long, then then you're good.
- 32:18Like this long or longer, five years or more.
- 32:20Otherwise, don't touch it. I couldn't agree more.
- 32:24That's literally I said that verbatim to my brother.
- 32:28It was like, it's like, should I be buying right now?
- 32:31I'm like, well, you know me. I always think you should be
- 32:34buying. But if you need that money
- 32:36within a year, then you probably shouldn't put into Bitcoin
- 32:39whatever you're trying to save long term.
- 32:42That's when you what you should be putting in the Bitcoin.
- 32:44But I'm gonna pass the question to Brandon.
- 32:46Brandon, what do you tell your friends and family when they ask
- 32:48you if they should be buying Bitcoin at 100K?
- 32:53It would mention it and then it'll go in a way the savings
- 32:56technology and and that's the thing that a year or two ago, I
- 32:59don't even know when it was all of a sudden it was just very in
- 33:03my own head, very obvious, I guess, Hey, or I guess it was
- 33:06during the bear market that that's what it was.
- 33:07Because when prices going down, then, you know, it's much harder
- 33:11to give this number go up soliloquy, right and and say,
- 33:15hey, look at past history, it's going to do it again.
- 33:16So it's just savings technology. It's and and then at that time
- 33:19too, two years ago, the, the, what was it?
- 33:22The Ukraine, yeah, Ukraine war started and and that was again,
- 33:25Hey, we've got examples of people leaving the, the country
- 33:28with their wealth in their head. So those, to me, I think the
- 33:32savings technology aspect, I think is the biggest thing of,
- 33:34of dollar cost averaging. Get get your lump sum, get what
- 33:36you're comfortable in now. And everyone can be comfortable
- 33:38at a different a, a point of what they are going to allot to
- 33:41it, but get get what you want initially and then dollar cost
- 33:44average. I think that's and then as far
- 33:46as orange going again, it's the log chart for me.
- 33:49And seeing the log chart we talked about in exponential
- 33:51earlier, people seeing that. I think people get shaken out a
- 33:54lot of times because of just looking at that linear chart,
- 33:56obviously. But when you see the log chart,
- 33:58you know, Metcas law, the network effect, that's massive,
- 34:01you realize, oh, this thing doesn't go down.
- 34:03Actually, it's just an adoption curve of of the technology
- 34:05itself. And I think that was a huge
- 34:07thing for me. And I remember years ago,
- 34:09whatever it was 567 years ago, Max Geyser talking about moving
- 34:13your wealth and having your wealth stored in your head.
- 34:15Those are big aha moments for me where I just was sitting there
- 34:18blown away in my chair, rewinding it 100 times and be
- 34:20like, wait, what? That those to me are huge and,
- 34:23and, and kind of shaking people and rattling out of out of their
- 34:27they're stupor and these these hamster wheels that we're in,
- 34:30those are huge to me. So those are some good orange
- 34:33peeling things I've used over the years.
- 34:34Again, meeting people where they are showing them some of these
- 34:36different things. But savings technology, again,
- 34:38whether it's 100, whether it's a million, I tell people to like,
- 34:40I will be buying in a million. I'll be, you know, saving, I'll
- 34:43be saving at a million. I'll be transferring my Fiat at
- 34:45a million at 10 million, at 100 million a coin doesn't matter.
- 34:48Like my, my family will be trained to buy, to continually
- 34:51save in Bitcoin. Is, is as long as there's a
- 34:53mechanism for us to trade or this, this worthless Fiat into
- 34:56it, then eventually we'll just be working for it.
- 34:58Eventually we'll be working in in probably shorter order than
- 35:01we think in the next 5-10, fifteen, 20 years, we'll be
- 35:03working for it. These Fiat currencies won't
- 35:04exist. And I don't care what any
- 35:06government, you know, entity or politician has to say.
- 35:09They won't, they won't, won't exist.
- 35:10It's the black hole. It's going to suck everything in
- 35:13and all the time and energy as people start seeing this and
- 35:16seeing this abstraction from reality that we're in,
- 35:19everything will be sucked into Bitcoin and you'll be working
- 35:21for that. It'll be, you know, these, oh,
- 35:22this person has too much Bitcoin.
- 35:23Well, guess what? Those entities will be paying
- 35:25people in Bitcoin. It'll start getting dispersed
- 35:27all around the world as people are paid in Bitcoin.
- 35:29They're buying in Bitcoin. This will happen sooner than we
- 35:32think. It's not going to take I I love
- 35:34Spesky. It's not going to take 60 years.
- 35:35It's not going to take 100 years.
- 35:37People are humans are smart. They're they're good people
- 35:40inherently and they're smart. They might be apathetic.
- 35:42We might be dumb at times. We might be do stupid things.
- 35:44We all do and we get emotional, but we, we, we want to protect
- 35:47ourselves in the end. And we have the benefit of
- 35:49technology is the thing. Someone mentioned Musk earlier.
- 35:52The greatest thing that Musk has right now is this platform that
- 35:55we now get to whether anything gets done or not.
- 35:58I don't know. Who knows what happens in the
- 36:00next 4 years, but Musk having 200 million followers on Twitter
- 36:03and being able to pump his own algorithm, his own algo and push
- 36:06it out or wherever he wants. If he's going to do a Twitter
- 36:08file type of stuff and do this for the next 4 years, what, what
- 36:11greater gift do we have than four years of them exposing
- 36:14hopefully all the shenanigans of the world going on.
- 36:16That would be incredible that that's all we can ask for.
- 36:19And then the, the, the people, but what we can then be take
- 36:22these pieces and go start rebuilding the world we, we want
- 36:24to see going forward. So I think we're in for an
- 36:26incredible time. It's, it's saving technology.
- 36:29Just keep saving at any price. Doesn't matter.
- 36:30It's 10,100 million, 10 million, doesn't matter.
- 36:33Just keep saving. Totally agree.
- 36:36All right, guys, we still got a lot of the show left.
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- 38:44there. All right, guys, you probably
- 38:45saw this on Twitter. If you're on Twitter, you
- 38:47probably noticed this. If not, well, we're covering it.
- 38:51So breaking news over the weekend, Rumble announces a 77
- 38:57or $775,000,000 strategic investment from Tether.
- 39:01And here is a quote from Paulo who is the CEO of Tether and he
- 39:05goes beyond our initial shareholder stake.
- 39:07Tether intends to drive towards a meaningful advertising cloud
- 39:10and crypto payment solutions relationship with Rumble.
- 39:14Now going into this a little more, going to the Tether side
- 39:17and kind of breaking down what this announcement means for
- 39:20Rumble, we have a Tether announces a 700 and $75 million
- 39:24strategic investment. It's funny, everything's
- 39:27strategic now that the irony isn't lost on me anyway.
- 39:30A $775,000,000 strategic investment in Rumble to boost
- 39:34decentralized and community owned media platforms.
- 39:38December 20th, 2024 Tether, the largest company in the digital
- 39:41asset industry with more than 350 million users, announced
- 39:45today that it has made a definitive agreement to invest
- 39:48in Rumble. The investment includes a
- 39:51primary commitment of $250 million in cash with Tether also
- 39:55supporting Rumbles tender offer for up to 70 million shares at
- 39:58$7.50 per share, reinforcing the platforms future growth
- 40:03initiatives. The total anticipated investment
- 40:06from Tether will be approximately like we said, $775
- 40:10million or 103,333,333 shares of common stock.
- 40:17Following the completion of this transaction, Chris Poblowski,
- 40:21Rumbles Chairman and CEO will retain a controlling stake in
- 40:24the company. Now, again, going into this a
- 40:26little more, obviously we understand the initial amount of
- 40:31investment, but we are seeing that there is a move here of
- 40:37partnering Tether with Rumble. If you guys know or don't know
- 40:39already, Tether already has a pretty big shareholding of
- 40:44Rumble. But moving forward, like what
- 40:46does this mean for Bitcoiners? What does this mean for Rumble
- 40:50in general? We have the CEO, Chris, he goes
- 40:52today Rumble enters a new era. We partnered with Tether, a
- 40:55company that exports American values to the entire world and
- 40:59who are major advocates for free speech.
- 41:01Couldn't be more excited now doubling down.
- 41:04Here's Chris he he seems to be going down the Bitcoin rabbit
- 41:07horn, actually joining and fostering communication within
- 41:10the in the Bitcoin ecosystem. And I'm I'm personally pretty
- 41:14excited to see what happens next.
- 41:16But you see Chris here Rumble Bitcoin tether.
- 41:18Do you see the future yet now doubling down.
- 41:22This is where it means something for all of us here at Simply
- 41:26Bitcoin, which is why we are so excited about this and and
- 41:30hopefully seeing this implemented very soon.
- 41:33Chris goes imagine you can see, imagine you can easily tip your
- 41:37favorite creators with Bitcoin or Tether directly on Rumble.
- 41:41Now guys, Tether, I've said it multiple times, I'm a Bitcoiner,
- 41:45but I understand why some people like Tether.
- 41:48Now going forward, what did this mean for Rumble share price?
- 41:51Because we've been seeing that every time a company announces a
- 41:56strategic Bitcoin reserve or they're adopting Bitcoin to
- 42:00their balance sheet, it pumps the price of their stock.
- 42:04And This is why I think so many companies are going to follow
- 42:09soon. They are all going to very
- 42:11quickly I think in 2025 announce the fact that they are adopting
- 42:16a Bitcoin strategy like of course Michael Saylor micro
- 42:20strategy. Anyways, we got here, this is 0
- 42:22Hedge kind of updating us on what the stock has been doing
- 42:27this morning and it goes. Shares of YouTube competitor
- 42:30Rumble surged as much as 55% in pre market trading in New York
- 42:35after Tether announced that they are investing in Rumble.
- 42:39Of course, we covered all of this stuff and we kind of been
- 42:42talking up and we've actually been hearing rumors about this
- 42:45playing out and Rumble announced seeing like, you know, the zaps
- 42:49from Noster and tipping in Bitcoin.
- 42:51And obviously we love Rumble. We love everyone of you guys
- 42:54over at Rumble. Sorry, I can't get your comments
- 42:56on the show today. Obviously my Internet is I'm I'm
- 42:59still in 1990 Internet. Apparently I might be on the
- 43:02wrong Internet this morning over here at my parents house, but
- 43:04the show goes on and I'm live and so we're doing the best we
- 43:07can, but very interesting stuff to see Tether kind of double
- 43:12down with rumble. Obviously, I think everyone
- 43:14knows that what's been going on on YouTube.
- 43:17You know, we we did have our little our little, you know,
- 43:20issue with YouTube this year, but I think it's very
- 43:23interesting to see rumble kind of make this move or rather
- 43:27tether make this move in rumble double down in in rumble.
- 43:30And of course, I'm super excited to see if we will see, you know,
- 43:34Bitcoin tips on rumble very soon.
- 43:37Obviously, we would love to see that happen on Rumble and I
- 43:40think this is just kind of a greater trend, but we are seeing
- 43:43that if you do want to compete or maybe even out compete the
- 43:47legacy systems, then you embrace Bitcoin.
- 43:49And I think Rumble is making a big play here.
- 43:51Shouts out to Chris, the CEO. He's obviously a bitcoiner
- 43:55obviously on the front lines for freedom of speech.
- 43:59And you just, you just love to see it.
- 44:01So anyways, I'm going to pass it over to Brandon.
- 44:04Brandon, what's your thoughts on Rumble getting a huge investment
- 44:08from Tether? Sorry, muted myself.
- 44:14Yeah, it's, it's inevitable this stuff to happen and it's, it's
- 44:17going to be something that that picks up in pace and it is
- 44:21gradually there's, you know, we got a good chat going in the
- 44:24side here and I I think that it's, it's, it's going to happen
- 44:28to, to Crane what he's saying on here.
- 44:30It's, I think bitcoins, we tend to be, I think a lot of bitcoins
- 44:33in the last 15 years to say this, we tend to be probably
- 44:36more entrepreneurial minded, more idealistic.
- 44:39And you do have to measure yourself, you have to be
- 44:41realistic, you have to understand the world that we're
- 44:43playing in. And at the same time, I think
- 44:45that what we don't see, because Rumble is a great example, you
- 44:49know, Rumble, what we just talked about with Elon Musk and,
- 44:51and owning Twitter now or X or whatever these things, I don't
- 44:55think we've priced in the speed at which we can communicate.
- 44:58Now, you know, when you think about it, internet's been around
- 45:00for, you know, mass Internet will say 30 years, 2 point O
- 45:04Internet to the social media is really what, 20 years or so, you
- 45:06know, 1520 years And just now in the last election, people have
- 45:10really started to understand maybe how to use social media
- 45:14for, for political campaigns. I, I would argue that most
- 45:17people still don't. I mean, they, we really don't
- 45:18even understand. We just saw finally Trump and,
- 45:21and some of these guys get on, on Joe Rogan the last couple
- 45:23weeks of the campaign, which is insane.
- 45:24It's 2024. I mean, you would think, you
- 45:26know, when I, I was a, a freshman, I guess the year after
- 45:29Facebook came out in College in, in, in O5 when Facebook was out
- 45:34and people are poking each other and all this stupid crap.
- 45:36And so it's taken us a while to understand and learn it to Crane
- 45:41point this, this stuff is gradual.
- 45:42But then you see these companies as game theory start playing out
- 45:45or countries or sovereigns or other corporations, and they
- 45:48start looking around and like, wait, whoa, whoa, they're
- 45:50they're doing it. So what am I doing?
- 45:52Like, what, what are we doing? You see the the lady from the EU
- 45:55like saying that about the EU, like, what are we doing?
- 45:57Like what we have to, we have to figure this out because we're
- 46:00going to be left behind. And that that gradually then
- 46:04suddenly does play out. When you think about 20 years
- 46:06ago, like I said, when I was in college starting out, I was
- 46:08arguing with every teacher about politics I could find every
- 46:11professor I argue to family members, everything.
- 46:13And I was constitution guy. I was declaration independence
- 46:16guy. He had my little, you know,
- 46:17pocket constitution, all that bullshit.
- 46:19And I'd walk around and I would argue with anyone who argue with
- 46:22me. And then I realized in O8O9
- 46:242010, oh shit, this game is not red versus blue.
- 46:26It's a state versus you. And that's when the whole, you
- 46:29know, reading the creature of Jekyll Island, all these things
- 46:31were happening and I realized you have to understand that
- 46:34money game. And that's what again coming
- 46:36full circle to what we were talking about the beginning of
- 46:37the episode with eventually climbing this the real Maslow's
- 46:40hierarchy of of understanding self actualization, realizing
- 46:43this good versus evil spirits. But in saying all this, my point
- 46:46with all this landing the planes that 20 years ago, if you would
- 46:48have told me what was going to happen only 20 years from now
- 46:52that so much of the world will be woken up to the, the, to the
- 46:56crap that that I was so pissed off about and, and trying to
- 47:00find answers for. And you had told me just 20
- 47:02years later, everyone, the, the, the richest guy in the world to
- 47:05be tweeting about all these things and, and blasting him out
- 47:08with megaphones to the things that I thought were most
- 47:10important 20 years ago. And, and just didn't understand
- 47:13why the average person couldn't that I, I would have bet you
- 47:16any, any, you know, any money in the world that you're like,
- 47:19you're crazy. There's no way people have no
- 47:21idea what's going on. And you saw what happened in O
- 47:23eight O 910, these bailouts, the golden parachutes, Obamacare
- 47:26getting passed and we went socialized medicine.
- 47:28And I at that point, I was like, wow, we just, we're going, we're
- 47:31going full throat boys, like we're, there's no turning back.
- 47:33We just lost the constitution and declaration.
- 47:35We're going exactly opposite of our founding.
- 47:37And just 1012 years later, we have, you know, and then during
- 47:40that time, bitcoins discovered and it's in the background doing
- 47:43its thing. And then the society just 10
- 47:45years later, all of a sudden has this megaphone where they again,
- 47:48the wealthiest guys in the world are calling this stuff out and
- 47:51this movement to start disinfecting darkness with
- 47:54light. I mean, this is just within 20
- 47:56years. So I think again, and, and maybe
- 47:57people can say that this that's, that's a long time from now, or
- 48:00maybe it's not. I just don't think it's a long
- 48:01time from now. And then you look at just the
- 48:03last four years, think about how much life, your life has changed
- 48:06in just the last four or five years.
- 48:08It is gone exponential in every way, shape or fashion, the way
- 48:12the way society has moved. So the rumble thing, this is
- 48:15going to continue happening. Obviously Microsoft just had a
- 48:18vote on on Bitcoin. These things are going to
- 48:20continue speeding up and it's only going to play out through
- 48:23this game theory. Jason mentioned that earlier.
- 48:24It's it's, it's inevitable. And we think it's we, we
- 48:27pontificate it for hours and days and weeks.
- 48:30And we, you think like you go crazy eventually because you
- 48:33keep talking about it over and over again.
- 48:34And then eventually it happens and you're like, wait, what?
- 48:36Like this actually really happened?
- 48:37Like I can't believe it. Like this is because for so
- 48:39long, so many of us have been screaming at the television or
- 48:42newspapers or whatever it was. And and like I said, 20 years
- 48:45ago or 30 years ago and you're like no one, no one was ever
- 48:47listening, right? It was just kind of like you're
- 48:49screaming at your hot air. It just into the wind and it
- 48:51didn't matter. And now things are actually
- 48:53happening and moving the other direction.
- 48:55So whether it's five years or a year that, you know, these crazy
- 48:58price predictions, yeah, it's going to eat it in the next year
- 49:00or so. I don't know.
- 49:00I think I think we're getting to see a much more exponential
- 49:03price than people even think in the next three to four years,
- 49:05like this epoch sometime. But these things, I think things
- 49:08collapse in the next 10 to 20 years because of this
- 49:10exponential curve in the way where we haven't priced in the
- 49:13ability for stupid shit to happen.
- 49:15More trucker situations because again, the the 20 agenda 20-30
- 49:19people can, you know, we had, I forget the initial agenda, they
- 49:22had a couple of them. Then they had Agenda 21.
- 49:24Now there's a, you know, Agenda 2030 basically, and, and
- 49:27everyone knows that over the last five years, but this is
- 49:29stuff that again, 1520 years ago, I was reading these things.
- 49:32And again, I know I'm not alone. I'm just giving my story of I'm
- 49:35reading these things. And like, no one, no one in
- 49:37their right mind even knew these things existed.
- 49:39The UN has been around for a what, 100 years and, and over
- 49:42100 years? And these organizations, these
- 49:44NGOs on and on and on. We're doing these things behind
- 49:46the scenes. And no one cared, no one knew,
- 49:48didn't matter. Apathetic.
- 49:50Well, the market's great, you know, like, what are you talking
- 49:51about? Shut up, kid.
- 49:52All these things, it was like we're doing nothing of how we
- 49:55are founded. And now just 1520 years later,
- 49:58it's it's it's the main topic. I mean, we're we're forcing
- 50:01CNBC, we're forcing these shows, mainstream shows that were they
- 50:05were mainstream legacy news to cover things that again, like I
- 50:08said, 20 years ago, high school, kidding me, college kidding me,
- 50:11could have never imagined us being in a situation.
- 50:13So with with all that being said, it's the rumble thing.
- 50:17All these things are are inevitable.
- 50:19It's only going to speed up stupid shit happening, will
- 50:21force people to to come to Bitcoin and and then good things
- 50:24like this coming to Bitcoin. The foremost, the fears and
- 50:27greed thing, the the emotional levels that humans are going to
- 50:29bounce back and forth from will only speed up this adoption in
- 50:32the in the next few years. Totally couldn't agree more.
- 50:36So I'm going to pass the question to you, Jason.
- 50:38What's your thoughts on Rumble or rather Tether investing this
- 50:41much in Rumble? What's your initial thoughts?
- 50:44And then maybe what, what do you think the impact will be?
- 50:47Well. First of all, things, a tough
- 50:48act for me to follow after after Brandon's remarks there.
- 50:51That was great. My first thoughts about Tether
- 50:55being a Bitcoin maxi. I think Tether's a good half
- 51:00step between Fiat and and real money Bitcoin.
- 51:03But so I guess this makes me really bullish on on Rumble that
- 51:08at least they're moving in the right direction.
- 51:09There was one of the, I don't know if you want to bring it up,
- 51:11Opti. There was one of the screenshots
- 51:13you shared earlier when they were talking, talking about
- 51:18Rumble taking on, you know, doing the, you know, Bitcoin and
- 51:23tethering and all and being able to tip on Rumble.
- 51:26I don't know if you if you want to bring that up real quick.
- 51:28Underneath that there was a a tweet from primal, the the
- 51:32primal app, which is saying you can already do this on Noster.
- 51:35I know you you mentioned that there, but I think that overall
- 51:39this with Rumble and the the rise of Noster and Elon taking
- 51:44over Twitter is all part of this much bigger pictures being
- 51:48painted of let's see, it wasn't that one, but that was the
- 51:54other. 1. Yeah, it was, it was the last
- 51:57one you shared or it had a little thing from Primal there.
- 52:01But I think it's all part of a bigger picture.
- 52:03It's being painted of greater freedom of speech, which which,
- 52:08yeah, so I guess I'm feeling bullish on freedom of speech and
- 52:11and because of that, bullish on humanity, on the future of
- 52:14humanity. I am feeling more hopeful for my
- 52:16children's future and other people's children's future and
- 52:19just the future in general than ever before.
- 52:22And it's not just because of Bitcoin.
- 52:23Now for years it has really just been because of Bitcoin.
- 52:26But now we're getting a nice list here of reasons to be
- 52:29bullish and hopeful for for the future in all kinds of ways.
- 52:35That's all I got to. Say totally agree, totally
- 52:37agree. Sorry guys, I'm like, I'm still
- 52:40fighting this cold and I'm let's just go to the ad.
- 52:43I got like a hair in my throat or something.
- 52:44All right guys, we're going to be talking about set Atlantis.
- 52:47Guys, we still got the end of the show to wrap up.
- 52:50Go to the break so I can breathe here for a second.
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- 54:45Anyways, moving forward, Jason, thank you so much for coming on
- 54:49today. First of all, apologies for my
- 54:51weird Internet going on this. What happens when you travel all
- 54:55the time? You know, it's the holidays.
- 54:56I'll get everything settled for tomorrow.
- 54:59But anyways, Jason, good to have you.
- 55:02Let's just talk about your project, man.
- 55:04You are working on Satlantis. So for everyone that doesn't
- 55:07know what's Atlantis is, what is it?
- 55:09And then we'll dive into all of the different topics.
- 55:13All right. Well, actually, I'm glad you
- 55:15mentioned about travelling that yeah, sometimes bad Internet is
- 55:17something that happens when you travel.
- 55:19But you should be able to get a good glimpse of the city.
- 55:22You're going to get an idea of the Internet of the, I don't
- 55:25know, the crime rate, if you're going there with kids, if
- 55:27there's activities, things like that, you should be able to get
- 55:29that. And there's some sources for
- 55:31that, like TripAdvisor and Nomad list.
- 55:35And while I haven't been a digital nomad across the board,
- 55:38everywhere, everywhere I look, people say they suck those
- 55:41things. Not digital nomads, No, sorry
- 55:43that things like Nomad list and TripAdvisor.
- 55:47And so Atlantis is you can think of a kind of like TripAdvisor
- 55:50nomad list with a little bit of Instagram social dynamics put
- 55:54into it and also some parts like meetup.com.
- 55:59So there are events listed in there in each of the cities and
- 56:03it's all built on top of Noster. So the beauty with Noster is you
- 56:08just like with Bitcoin, you get a public key and a private key.
- 56:12You keep the private key private and just don't share it with
- 56:15anybody. And every post you make, every
- 56:18follower you get, every person you follow, everything you do is
- 56:22linked to that private key. Then you share your public key
- 56:26when you want other people to follow you when you want to.
- 56:29Yeah, I guess, yeah. When you want to kind of link
- 56:32publicly to what you're, what you've been doing on throughout
- 56:37in Auster, I believe personally that the future is nostril
- 56:41based. Everything is going to be built
- 56:43on top of nostril. There's already been several
- 56:45things where they've kind of slipped nostril in under the
- 56:47hood. I'm, I'm looking forward to the
- 56:49day when Twitter becomes a nostril client and it makes it
- 56:52so that basically nostril think of it as the identity layer of
- 56:55the Internet. It is a decentralized way of
- 56:59connecting all, all your different posts and activity
- 57:01online to you and only you control the, the content.
- 57:07And so Salantis, like I said, it's all built on top of Noster.
- 57:10It is a way of connecting with people in, in different areas
- 57:15and connecting with the actual areas that it, it's the bridge
- 57:18between the online space and meat space in a way that yeah,
- 57:25that where, where you are sovereign, you're not trusting
- 57:27someone else with your information.
- 57:29You're not trusting this one wants to show you what I guess
- 57:33what businesses, what restaurants, hotels or anything
- 57:36else are are good. One thing we plan to build at
- 57:39Saint Atlantis, it's not there yet, but we are planning in the
- 57:42future is basically to have it. So it's a personalized, curated
- 57:46experience all based on your your social graph on Noster.
- 57:50Excuse me. So for example, let's say you're
- 57:53thinking of visiting a city. Let's say you're planning to
- 57:55come to Chattanooga, TN. I hope you do.
- 57:57Every 3rd Saturday month is is our meet up.
- 58:00But let's say you're coming there and you're looking for a
- 58:02good place to stay. You might look at at a hotel now
- 58:07and there it is Chattanooga. Very good.
- 58:09Thanks. And if you go to events, then
- 58:13you'll see our meet up events on there also.
- 58:15But oh wait, where's it going with that?
- 58:19So then you wanna look at different places there in the
- 58:23city and you can go to the merchants tab.
- 58:26Chattanooga is not a great example of this.
- 58:27Might want to go to Vancouver. It's a really good example of
- 58:30the merchants tab. There's only a few merchants on
- 58:32Chattanooga. That's my fault.
- 58:35But you'll be able to go look at one of the merchants like a
- 58:37hotel and look at reviews kind of like, you know, you know,
- 58:41Google and Yelp. But the beauty here with Noster
- 58:45is what we what we're planning on doing is allowing people to
- 58:49review. But then the reviews you see
- 58:51aren't from people you have no connections with.
- 58:53Maybe there's some soccer mom who has no, none of the same
- 58:57interests as you who gave that that hotel A1 star.
- 59:01But Opti here and Brandon and Nico and other people you follow
- 59:05and you care about and your values and interests are really
- 59:08well aligned. They give it a five star, maybe
- 59:104.5 yeah, you're probably going to love it too.
- 59:14So we're going to be curating reviews and and messages as
- 59:20according to like messages like like in the the city feed and so
- 59:24everything according to your social graph.
- 59:26So it's a different experience for everyone.
- 59:29They're going to the same city and it just it helps to connect
- 59:33Bitcoiners in meatspace allows you to see what's really out
- 59:38there. And I like to think of it as the
- 59:41anti doom scrolling technology. It's it gets you off the screen,
- 59:45off the computer. Go get some sunlight, go go
- 59:48touch grass. Go, go, go meet some real
- 59:50people, shake some hands, give some hugs and and go out there
- 59:55and, and see what's out there in the real world.
- 59:58Amazing, amazing. So you obviously need to have a
- 1:00:02noster to use this. What's the setup process like?
- 1:00:05You just, you know, link it to your end pod and then you can
- 1:00:10start to review like how does that work?
- 1:00:13All right, here's the thing. If you're already on Noster, go
- 1:00:16ahead and scroll up and let me show you this Opti.
- 1:00:19If you're already on Noster, it's really easy to log in.
- 1:00:22You will need some kind of, I guess if you're on desktop,
- 1:00:25you'll need some kind of, what's it called?
- 1:00:28A Noster extension on a browser extension.
- 1:00:32Something like keys dot band is my favorite, but I also like
- 1:00:35Albie, something like that. So yeah, then you simply click
- 1:00:39the button down at the bottom, sign in with Noster and if you
- 1:00:43have that extension, so here it's suggesting those two
- 1:00:47extensions, then it'll automatically log you in just
- 1:00:50like that to your Noster account.
- 1:00:52The same posts that you've made, all the same followers, your
- 1:00:56same profile and bio and everything.
- 1:01:01However, if you go back, and yeah, if you go back and let's
- 1:01:07say you've never even heard of an Oster, let's say you're
- 1:01:09trying to get your mom on South Atlantis.
- 1:01:12All she needs to do is fill out the username, put in a recovery
- 1:01:15e-mail just in case she loses her her password, choose a
- 1:01:19password, and then sign in. And she won't even know that
- 1:01:23it's on Noster. She won't even know that
- 1:01:24everything she posts in her city, in the city feed goes out
- 1:01:28to all of Noster on Primal and Amethyst and Dommis and all the
- 1:01:31others. She'll just know that it's all
- 1:01:35here on Salantis, but in the background.
- 1:01:39So like up in the OR down, sorry, down in the lower left
- 1:01:43corner. Once you're signed in, you'll
- 1:01:45see a little gear icon and you know it's only there if you sign
- 1:01:51in though, and then you click there and go go a little deeper
- 1:01:55and you can find your nsec. So let's say you find Atlantis
- 1:01:581st and then Primal later. You can be using Atlantis and
- 1:02:02then go into go kind of deep in there and find your nsec and
- 1:02:06then copy that and paste it into Primal and you'll see all your
- 1:02:09same followers, all your same posts, all your same information
- 1:02:12right there waiting for you. So yeah, it's really a way of
- 1:02:17purple Pilling people to to Noster without them even knowing
- 1:02:21it. Now what we're also really
- 1:02:23looking forward to is as businesses start using this,
- 1:02:26like you saw, there's that merchants tab there, businesses
- 1:02:29can actually claim their account and get an account specifically
- 1:02:32for them on South Atlantis. When they do that and they start
- 1:02:36posting, hey, we're offering 10% off on this for the, you know,
- 1:02:40for this Christmas week or whatever.
- 1:02:43And then that will go out to everyone on Auster.
- 1:02:46They can start to build a, a greater following that way.
- 1:02:50And then where is it going? Sorry.
- 1:02:53Oh yeah, that's right. And then when they start to see
- 1:02:55that most of the people, that of this new following, most of the
- 1:02:58people there on South Atlantis are Bitcoiners are people who
- 1:03:01would happily join a local circular economy.
- 1:03:05That will be a greater incentive for them to start accepting
- 1:03:09Bitcoin rather than just, you know, accept Bitcoin and hope
- 1:03:12someone comes by once in a while and pays it.
- 1:03:14No, now they'll be on a place where it will lease in the
- 1:03:17future. On South Atlantis, they'll be
- 1:03:18able to accept zaps, though they can also get on like Primal or
- 1:03:22domicing zaps that way. But yeah, it'll, it'll just show
- 1:03:27them, hey, there's demand for this.
- 1:03:29These are the Bitcoiners in your area.
- 1:03:31And they would love to to not just earn Bitcoin, but spend
- 1:03:35Bitcoin, be part of the whole circular economy.
- 1:03:37So we're really thinking of that.
- 1:03:39Celantis will end up being a sly, roundabout way of
- 1:03:41onboarding lots and lots of businesses to to Bitcoin.
- 1:03:44Love it. And and talking about onboarding
- 1:03:47businesses, can users kind of like put their profiles up there
- 1:03:52or does that have to come from the merchants themselves?
- 1:03:57Users like yeah, like, say. You, you know, say you travel to
- 1:04:01a city and the, you know, you go to a, a shop and they're
- 1:04:05randomly taking Bitcoin, but they've never heard about
- 1:04:08Satlantis. Could the person kind of like,
- 1:04:11you know, add them to SAT Atlantis and be like, yo, they
- 1:04:13accept Bitcoin And then, you know, the merchant doesn't
- 1:04:15necessarily have to sign up. Like how does that work?
- 1:04:19Yeah, absolutely. Now, not at the moment, that's
- 1:04:21not built out right now, but go over to the profile tab on the
- 1:04:25on South Atlantis. You'll see for all of them.
- 1:04:27And yeah, stay here in Chattanooga.
- 1:04:29So go to print profile and Scroll down a bit.
- 1:04:31You'll see all the people there. There's my avatar right there,
- 1:04:35the the very first one, and there's a lot of repeat posts.
- 1:04:39I apologize for that there. But yeah, my avatar there with a
- 1:04:42little crown next to it. Anyone that has a little crown
- 1:04:46next to it is the kind of the moderator of the page or the
- 1:04:49it's called the ambassador of, of that city.
- 1:04:54Yeah, there's my, my profile. That's a profile across all of
- 1:04:57Noster. So the, the ambassador, they
- 1:05:01represent the city. They, they know the city really
- 1:05:03well. They add merchants.
- 1:05:05They, you know, they're the moderator for the whole page,
- 1:05:09but they're they're able to actually contact me.
- 1:05:11My role at Atlantis is actually the ambassador concierge.
- 1:05:15So I work with all the ambassadors and help new
- 1:05:18ambassadors get started. So if you are interested in
- 1:05:20becoming ambassador for your city, if you know your city
- 1:05:23really well and and you would love to help travellers come
- 1:05:25there, reach out to me. I hope it's OK if I plug this
- 1:05:27real quick, but I'm geeky guy GEEKIGAI like geek and Iki guy
- 1:05:34mixed together on Twitter, Noster and most platforms.
- 1:05:39And yeah, so just reach out to me.
- 1:05:41I'll accept DMS anywhere. And yeah, and I'll, I'll talk to
- 1:05:46you for a bit and then hook you up and set you up as a, an
- 1:05:49ambassador for your city. So the ambassadors then work
- 1:05:52with me to add more merchants to their to their city.
- 1:05:56That's the, the process we're doing now in the future, we are
- 1:05:58planning a, a more streamlined approach to, to adding a new
- 1:06:04location now in the background. So on one hand we have
- 1:06:07ambassadors adding merchants to the merchant map in the
- 1:06:10background. We myself included and several
- 1:06:12others at Atlantis, we are scraping locations from all
- 1:06:17kinds of Bitcoin maps, including a BTC map.
- 1:06:20But there are plenty of others, different wallets that have maps
- 1:06:23of the locations that accept Bitcoin.
- 1:06:25And so the locations on South Atlantis, you can filter them.
- 1:06:29Some are places that accept Bitcoin, some are seed oil free,
- 1:06:33some offer like a carnivore menu does anything that we believe
- 1:06:37would appeal to Bitcoiners and have a pretty, you know, high
- 1:06:41rating currently just according to Google ratings.
- 1:06:44But once once this gets built out more, we'll we'll have that
- 1:06:46more of those curated ratings I talked about earlier.
- 1:06:49And yeah. And so you find all those
- 1:06:52locations there for whatever city you might want to visit.
- 1:06:55So, for example, if you're going down to El Salvador for the Plan
- 1:06:59B forum in January, look up we got places in, well, we have, we
- 1:07:04have city pages on Atlantis for San Salvador, Berlin, the Berlin
- 1:07:07in El Salvador and El Zante. So look up those places and see
- 1:07:10what's on there. And then that, that gives you a
- 1:07:13head start right there about what places you might want to go
- 1:07:16and, and go to and, and visit and spend some of your, your
- 1:07:19Sats. And, and then of course,
- 1:07:22there's, there's always the ambassadors there who if you
- 1:07:25need that personal touch, if you need to talk to somebody, a
- 1:07:27human being who can give you the, the rundown.
- 1:07:31Oh, no, don't go there. That's, that's a bad area of
- 1:07:33town or Oh yeah, go here. There's a There's a much better
- 1:07:35place than the ambassador's right there for you to reach out
- 1:07:38to. Love it, Jason.
- 1:07:40Great. OK, now pivoting the
- 1:07:42conversation a little bit. I know one of your main missions
- 1:07:45is obviously Bitcoin Meetups and Bitcoin education.
- 1:07:48So I do want to give you a moment to plug your book and
- 1:07:51then we'll wrap up today's show. So what is this book that you
- 1:07:54wrote, Jason? 21 questions.
- 1:07:57Yeah, So before the team that I'm working on, I'm actually
- 1:08:01working with Spetsky and a bunch of others on our team on South
- 1:08:03Atlantis. Before then, we were working on
- 1:08:05a project called the Spirit of Satoshi.
- 1:08:08For those who haven't heard, the Spirit of Satoshi is a large
- 1:08:11language model or AI, kind of like ChatGPT, but it's it's
- 1:08:18based instead of woke. You ask it how many genders
- 1:08:22there are, it'll tell you there's two if you ask it if you
- 1:08:25ask especially, you know, should I invest in other
- 1:08:28cryptocurrency? Should I diversify?
- 1:08:30And it'll give you a very reason to answer why no, don't touch
- 1:08:33any of the others. Just stay Bitcoin only.
- 1:08:37And my role there was to actually reach out to a bunch of
- 1:08:40Bitcoin Maxis that just found all over the Internet and sent
- 1:08:43them a link to where they could fill out a form to to sign up.
- 1:08:47My my job was to vet them and make sure they were really
- 1:08:51Bitcoin maximalist. And like one of the questions,
- 1:08:53for example, was what's the second best crypto asset?
- 1:08:56And the a lot of people would say something like Ethereum,
- 1:09:01doge or something that would be Nope.
- 1:09:04But you, you all know the right answer.
- 1:09:06If they gave the right answer, if you know, you know, then that
- 1:09:10was that was a good point in their favor.
- 1:09:13So, so the Spiro Satoshi, we trained it on basically a whole
- 1:09:21bunch of different questions about Bitcoin and we trained it
- 1:09:24on every podcast and every book, everything that ever been said
- 1:09:28or written about Bitcoin to try and make it the ultimate Bitcoin
- 1:09:31expert. Now, for a lot of reasons that I
- 1:09:34don't really have time to go into, it didn't pan out very
- 1:09:37well as a business. And so earlier this year, almost
- 1:09:40a year ago, we open sourced it. We we just gave that to the
- 1:09:43Bitcoin community. So you can actually find it.
- 1:09:45You can download it, download it on your own machine if you want
- 1:09:49at Hugging Face, the website where it's like kind of like the
- 1:09:54GitHub for AI for a large language models.
- 1:09:58And so while we're working on that, though, I, as it ties into
- 1:10:02the book, I was noticing a lot of the same questions coming in.
- 1:10:05When questions would come in that people would ask.
- 1:10:08I never had any personal identifying information about
- 1:10:10people, but I would see the the questions coming in and I
- 1:10:14started seeing a trend and having been in Bitcoin for a
- 1:10:17while and trying to orange for a lot, lots of people, I wasn't
- 1:10:20surprised by a lot of the questions that are coming in.
- 1:10:23And so I started making a list of the the top questions and I
- 1:10:27ended up like 67 of them or something like that.
- 1:10:31And then originally came up with an idea of creating a short
- 1:10:34documentary, 21 minute documentary talking to 21
- 1:10:37Bitcoiners, giving an answer to 21 questions in one minute each.
- 1:10:42Yeah, yeah, one minute for each answer.
- 1:10:45And you can actually go to the website for that 21.21 questions
- 1:10:49dot film. So it's 21 questions dot film
- 1:10:52and and now it's all a website all about the book.
- 1:10:57And for a lot of reasons, some more practical things like some
- 1:11:01questions required a lot more than one minute to answer.
- 1:11:04And yeah, there it is. And other, other problems were I
- 1:11:08couldn't get a hold of 21 well known bitcoiners.
- 1:11:11These are Bitcoiners that a lot of people know really well and
- 1:11:15can give really good trustworthy answers.
- 1:11:17Because I wanted there to be a resource for people who go yeah,
- 1:11:20there's some examples of some of the people who are in the book.
- 1:11:23I wanted to be a resource where people will get these kinds of
- 1:11:27answers from a different perspective.
- 1:11:28So for example, like question one is simply called what is
- 1:11:31Bitcoin? So the book covers 21 questions,
- 1:11:3321 most common, most common and most important questions about
- 1:11:37Bitcoin answered by it's like 17 different well known bitcoiners,
- 1:11:42Jacques, Mozuko, Carla and Walker, Guy Swan, Alex Spetsky,
- 1:11:45lots of others. And the point of that was not
- 1:11:49only to just answer these questions like a like a physical
- 1:11:53FAQ, like who needs that? I wanted there to be something
- 1:11:56where people who were brand new to Bitcoin would find these
- 1:12:01these answers and see it in different angles.
- 1:12:03Canutes town home gives his angle and Daniel Prince gives
- 1:12:06his angle about the same questions.
- 1:12:10But then and then the spirit of Satoshi gives its answer at the
- 1:12:14end of every chapter, actually, just by the way.
- 1:12:15But I wanted there to be something where after someone
- 1:12:19has read the book, after they've gotten those 21 questions
- 1:12:21answered, what if they have question #22 in their mind
- 1:12:25that's not covered in the book, who are they going to turn to?
- 1:12:27They're going to turn to Vitalik or Bitboy or some other, some
- 1:12:33person on, on YouTube with a, with a thumbnail of them
- 1:12:37pointing out a chart going like that.
- 1:12:39I'm sure someone's going to screenshot that.
- 1:12:41I, I totally regret doing that. But are they going to turn to
- 1:12:46them? Or maybe they'll get on Twitter
- 1:12:49and they'll see, oh, this guy swung.
- 1:12:50I know that name. That's right.
- 1:12:52It came from that book. And then they go down the rabbit
- 1:12:54hole and start listening to Bitcoin, Audible and stuff.
- 1:12:56And so it's pointing them in the right direction to like 17
- 1:12:59people who are the right kinds of people to ask.
- 1:13:02Maybe some of these people are retweeting something from
- 1:13:05someone who wasn't in the book, you know, Opti here, for
- 1:13:08example. Maybe they retweet something
- 1:13:09from you and it just it builds that trust there.
- 1:13:14So it's kind of A2 pronged purpose.
- 1:13:15The, the, the tip of the iceberg, answer these questions
- 1:13:18the deeper part of the iceberg, point them to who they can get
- 1:13:21answers from for additional questions.
- 1:13:25And so that way this, this book's not very long low over
- 1:13:28100 pages. And and also you don't have to
- 1:13:31read it all the way through. Some people already know what
- 1:13:33Bitcoin is. They can skip chapter one.
- 1:13:34They can just jump to whatever chapter they want in any order.
- 1:13:39And so it's a great book that you can just give out to a
- 1:13:43friend or family member. Let them borrow it, let them
- 1:13:46read it. And it's the easiest orange
- 1:13:50pill. And right now I'm working on
- 1:13:52doing the second the doing the same thing with a second book,
- 1:13:56the 21 questions about Noster. So as a beginner's guide to
- 1:13:59Noster, we're under the same process.
- 1:14:01No spirit of Satoshi involved with this this time, but I'm
- 1:14:04reaching out to a lot of well known people in the Noster space
- 1:14:07who really know their stuff about Noster.
- 1:14:10And, and so that way it can be a great purple Pilling book.
- 1:14:14And then in the future, I plan to do this for a lot of other
- 1:14:18books. 21 questions about homesteading, about
- 1:14:21homeschooling, about self-defense. 21 questions
- 1:14:24about, oh, I don't know really anything that has to do with
- 1:14:28being a sovereign individual. I mean, nomading would be a
- 1:14:30great one and just what you should know and all about that
- 1:14:36given topic and all the answers are given by kind of the who's
- 1:14:38who in that space, people who are well known, well respected,
- 1:14:42very reliable sources of information in that particular
- 1:14:45space. Love it, Jason.
- 1:14:48Well, I think it's very fitting, you know, it is, it is
- 1:14:51Christmas, total Christmas Eve tomorrow.
- 1:14:54I'm sure people are going to sit down with their family.
- 1:14:56They're probably going to get asked one or maybe all of these
- 1:15:0021 questions. So hey, if you get asked these
- 1:15:03questions over Christmas dinner, etcetera, maybe you know, your
- 1:15:08friends and family won't listen to you.
- 1:15:10But maybe if they read it from a book, they can get the answers
- 1:15:13themselves. So Jason, thanks for coming on
- 1:15:16man, Incredible stuff and and just love seeing Bitcoiners
- 1:15:19build stuff to try to get the word out there about Bitcoin.
- 1:15:23And I think that's the most important thing for all of us.
- 1:15:25Obviously, ha dealing is important.
- 1:15:28Second thing is making sure more people are holding Bitcoin.
- 1:15:31So kudos to you, the whole set Atlantis team and all the books
- 1:15:34you're writing, man. So I'll give you one last, you
- 1:15:36know, 2 minute TLDR. What's the last final message you want to
- 1:15:40leave with the audience? Merry Christmas, Stay humble,
- 1:15:46stack sats and stay humble. Stay humble helps you stack
- 1:15:49sats. Stacking sats makes you stay
- 1:15:51humble and it just goes in a psycho like that.
- 1:15:54That's all you got to say. Love it, love it.
- 1:15:58OK, Brandon, thanks for coming out.
- 1:16:00Thanks for holding it down for me with this weird Internet I
- 1:16:02got going on. So I'm gonna give you the same
- 1:16:05thing. Brandon, what about for you?
- 1:16:07It's been AI, don't know, maybe a month since you came on.
- 1:16:09So what's the final message you want to give the people and then
- 1:16:12plug your socials because people were asking about it in the
- 1:16:14chat. Yeah, thanks for having me on as
- 1:16:18always. I love coming on and enjoy the
- 1:16:20community here as always. For for years now, I, I, I miss
- 1:16:23the the after hours show, doing the spaces, all that.
- 1:16:28So maybe someday, maybe someday. But Merry Christmas to
- 1:16:31everybody. Happy New Year, just an
- 1:16:33incredible time to be alive. No greater time to be alive.
- 1:16:36So boy are we blessed. 2025 is going to be amazing.
- 1:16:39My Twitter handles Brandon under score Gentilly, YouTube,
- 1:16:43Twitter, all those things you know, we interview people as
- 1:16:46well. There's there's tons of Bitcoin
- 1:16:48podcast now, which is amazing. We need 10,000 more people doing
- 1:16:51all kinds of different podcasts and forms of content and media
- 1:16:55to, as we said earlier, beat people over the head with the
- 1:16:57truth, with the mission and be great.
- 1:17:01Just be great next year, right? Let's this is this is the
- 1:17:04greatest time to be alive. So check out Bitcoin trading
- 1:17:07cards, the 21 questions about Bitcoin trading cards.
- 1:17:09We did a collaboration with Spira Satoshi actually when that
- 1:17:12when that dropped a year ago. Series 3 is coming out here as
- 1:17:15well. If you guys need some last
- 1:17:17minute Christmas things, our birthday is coming up.
- 1:17:19Whatever it might be, check out the simply gear and and Jason's
- 1:17:23books and when he's got going to say Atlanta.
- 1:17:25It's just incredible time. I thank you guys so much for for
- 1:17:28having me on Opti, Nico, the whole gang, incredible time.
- 1:17:31And like I said, I love the community here.
- 1:17:33And this is this is the the toxicity we need to keep the the
- 1:17:36Bitcoin ethos on the straight and narrow.
- 1:17:38So much love to all of you in 2025.
- 1:17:41Merry Christmas. Let's go.
- 1:17:44Appreciate it, Brandon. Also, I don't know if you guys
- 1:17:46caught the new simply Bitcoin Nikko Opti trading card, but
- 1:17:50it's absolutely hilarious. Had me chuckling anyways.
- 1:17:54All right, let me pull you behind the scenes.
- 1:17:56Kick back for a minute. Let me wrap this one up.
- 1:17:58All right guys, I'm surprised you guys stuck with me today.
- 1:18:02I apologize for the Internet. Hopefully the audio came in
- 1:18:06good. Anyways, I will figure out all
- 1:18:09the technical issues. It's been a busy morning, but
- 1:18:11you know, we do this live. It's what happens when you go
- 1:18:13home for the holidays and try to do a live stream from your
- 1:18:17father's office without the ideal technology.
- 1:18:20Anyways, anyways, have a good rest of your day guys.
- 1:18:22Make sure you know you hang out with your friends and family in
- 1:18:25the next week or so. And of course, we will be back.
- 1:18:29I think we're going to be here all week.
- 1:18:31We are probably going to take Christmas Day off.
- 1:18:34We will be dropping content on our channel.
- 1:18:36But the 25th, I think we are going to take a one day break
- 1:18:39from the live show. But we'll be here the rest of
- 1:18:42the week. All right guys, on that note, we
- 1:18:44love you guys and we will see you tomorrow.
- 1:18:46Peace out. Today's episode was brought to
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