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ITB: Early Injury Updates for Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, It's Adam Kaplan here for Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 1: and we've got a quick injury update, the initial update
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  Speaker 1: for the big game in Orchard Park, New York with
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  Speaker 1: the host Bills and the Eagles. Let's get started with
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  Speaker 1: the injury update with the Eagles. Now. The good news
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  Speaker 1: on Lane Johnson is everything we've heard for the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of days is Lane has progressed with that Liz
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  Speaker 1: Frank Sprain midfoot sprain. If you watch Hard Knocks, you've
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  Speaker 1: seen the workouts he's doing well. I certainly want to
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  Speaker 1: refer people though, just to know what Lane's dealing with.
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  Speaker 1: If everything works in practice this week we expect him
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  Speaker 1: to play, is that what he has to do to
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  Speaker 1: get ready to play? So we had Aaron Borgman on
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  Speaker 1: Jeff and I did a couple of weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. Everything he said is kind of where we're
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  Speaker 1: at here. When he gets when he when it's time
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  Speaker 1: for him to play, what he's going to have to do.
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  Speaker 1: And you could hear that show on our all podcasting
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  Speaker 1: platforms or watch it if you want. We put a
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  Speaker 1: clip up on what Lane's doing dealing with from our
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  Speaker 1: Chalk Talk series for Patreon we put the Lane stuff up,
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  Speaker 1: and it's nothing's changed. It's everything Aaron said. It still
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  Speaker 1: holds true. But he talks about the preparation for it
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  Speaker 1: for Lane to come back and what he's got to
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  Speaker 1: do leading up and what he's got to wear and
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  Speaker 1: all that. So they're going to know how well he
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  Speaker 1: looks in practice this week, and if all goes well,
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  Speaker 1: he'll be He'll be in the lineup and Fred Johnson'll
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  Speaker 1: be is be his backup. Lane also this season is
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  Speaker 1: at ankle, shoulder and the next singer but played through that,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the one that took him out of
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  Speaker 1: the lineup. The other injuries. Let's go to defense offensively
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  Speaker 1: now less there's a pop up injury. The first injury
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  Speaker 1: report will come out early Wednesday evening. The Eagles, when
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  Speaker 1: they practice later, usually don't have it out at four o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: When they play a Sunday game and they're on a
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  Speaker 1: normal schedule, it almost always comes out at exactly four
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  Speaker 1: pam Eastern. It's just kind of funny how they do that.
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  Speaker 1: But the Wednesday injury report will come out likely early
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday evening. Now, Jalen Carter with the shoulders, we expect
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  Speaker 1: him to play. I talked to doctor David Chowde, the
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  Speaker 1: former San Diego Chargers team doctor, and he suspects PRP
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know for the fact, nobody it's not out there,
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  Speaker 1: it's not being reported what it is. We know he
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  Speaker 1: had some kind of shot, which the don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it was cortizone or PORP or something else. But he said,
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  Speaker 1: you need at least two weeks is what you really
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  Speaker 1: need to feel better and just to stay off of everything,
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  Speaker 1: and then then you could start working your way back.
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  Speaker 1: And he's done more than that. Obviously he's been out
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  Speaker 1: a bit so and the Eagles, by the way, boys,
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  Speaker 1: their defense played well without him, and obviously they'll be
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  Speaker 1: better with him. The only question for him here is
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  Speaker 1: what percentage is he going to be with both shoulders,
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  Speaker 1: because we as we reported when they drafted him, there
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  Speaker 1: was at least one shoulder that was a chronic issue
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  Speaker 1: at Georgia it still has been. It was never about
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  Speaker 1: that he can play, it's how effective could he be
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  Speaker 1: over number of years. So we'll see what We'll see
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  Speaker 1: how much he works in practice this week. But he's
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  Speaker 1: trending towards playing, so it's lane it's good news. Nikobe
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  Speaker 1: Dean with a hamstring strain or a hamstring injury, we
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  Speaker 1: should say the issue for him is I certainly would
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  Speaker 1: be surprised if he played. You have so the ways
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  Speaker 1: to explain to me with these hamstring injury injuries is
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  Speaker 1: to this. It's the fluid in the hamstring, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: the amount of blood fluid, whatever it may be you
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  Speaker 1: and the higher up it is in the hamstring, the
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  Speaker 1: worse the strain is and the longer the player is
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  Speaker 1: going to be out. So they got to get him
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  Speaker 1: ready and he's got it. He's just got to be
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  Speaker 1: ready to play, like totally. There can't be He's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be playing part time. Either you're you're ready
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  Speaker 1: to go with a hamstering injury or not. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that he's gonna be ready.
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  Speaker 1: I know they had an extra day to prepare or
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have one. But let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: And we know obviously Jahad Campbell came in there, and
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting the Eagles are gonna have this decision to make.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's just kind of funny how Eagle fans know
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  Speaker 1: for decades how bad they had been at linebacker and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they have the riches at linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best linebacker groups in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: Dean is one of the best, has been, has done
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  Speaker 1: one of the best recoveries from multiple major injuries I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen at any position during my twenty six year career.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the hell it is, I'm just I'm just blown
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  Speaker 1: away by this guy. One of the most instinctive, young,
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  Speaker 1: young linebackers in the league. And to come back from
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  Speaker 1: the list Frank rupture, not to sprain in the rupture,
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  Speaker 1: that's a seven to eight month rehab, and then play well,
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  Speaker 1: and then Terre's suffers a turn for Teller ten and oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, that's one of the worst injuries you
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  Speaker 1: can have. Oh by the way, now he's playing lights out.
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  Speaker 1: It's just what an incredible story and one of the
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  Speaker 1: smartest instinctive linebackers we've seen here, certainly, no question about it.
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  Speaker 1: The question is if he doesn't play this week, how
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  Speaker 1: long the injury would be and and Trot Trot Junior
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  Speaker 1: and then would be the top backup inside linebacker until
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  Speaker 1: Dean's ready to go. Obviously Campbell would start. And now
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  Speaker 1: a guy I would have mentioned just because people are
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  Speaker 1: probably wonder like whatever happened is Z's o Julari. He
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  Speaker 1: suffered a hamstring injury in week seven when when didn't
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  Speaker 1: play in week eight, when went on IR in week nine.
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  Speaker 1: He's obviously eligible to come back. He missed four games.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you need to miss on IR and be
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  Speaker 1: able to come back. They haven't even designated to return,
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  Speaker 1: and quite frankly, there's no room for him. Josh hushe
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  Speaker 1: who did a good job before. He's been a weekly inactive.
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  Speaker 1: He also did a good job on special teams. But
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  Speaker 1: because of the BEG return, he's been amazing. Three sacks
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  Speaker 1: on twelve twelve snaps crazy watch him push cos me back.
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  Speaker 1: What look at his hand usage I did it the
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  Speaker 1: same thing to the Raiders guard. Really remarkable what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: And of course the trade for Jail and Philips has
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  Speaker 1: done a really good job. So it's just no room
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  Speaker 1: for him. And then now we do want to mention
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  Speaker 1: this one Drew mccob, but we haven't talked about him
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  Speaker 1: since he broke his red ankle. He went on IR
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  Speaker 1: on week thirteen. Uh, it is at a minimum, I'm
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  Speaker 1: told a six to eight week week injury. And then
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  Speaker 1: doctor Chow actually asked him about that, and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to put that chalk tuck up for chalk talk up
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  Speaker 1: for our Actually we put it up on Monday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: with Doctor Chow and he talked about it. He broke
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  Speaker 1: it down what how how long it typically is it's
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  Speaker 1: usually longer than six eight weeks, but the rehab and
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  Speaker 1: why could be longer and all that. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: chalk talk. He was amazing on that, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and also ask an Eagle which Monday night was Quentin
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  Speaker 1: Michael Folks got to do it and we're hoping for
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  Speaker 1: relatively soon. But we've had John D. Filippo, the Super
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  Speaker 1: and more announcements coming soon. So getting back to the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles injuries, that's it as we know for now. For
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, Lane and Carter will watch their practice participation.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is trending well. They should be playing unless they
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  Speaker 1: have some sort of unforeseen setback, and then Macouba is
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  Speaker 1: the question is how deep in the playoffs could the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles go and could he and could he come back? Then?
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  Speaker 1: Oh for people wondering about kickers, no kicker workouts on
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  Speaker 1: Monday too. Now Monday workouts go Monday through Saturday. The
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  Speaker 1: heaviest workout day is Tuesday because that's a player's day off.
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  Speaker 1: If you're playing on Sunday, Monday is the second highest
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  Speaker 1: workout day. And by the way, the Eagles are bottom five,
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  Speaker 1: as they always are in player workouts. They just how
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't typically do it for whatever reason. They just
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  Speaker 1: don't work out players unless they absolutely have to. But
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  Speaker 1: no work it doesn't mean that they won't work out
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  Speaker 1: a kicker on Tuesday. But it's not a question of
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  Speaker 1: whether they're going for with Jake Elliott. But I know
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  Speaker 1: some teams over the years have done this, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking to clubs about it. It's a thing sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: want to send a message to the kicker, No, you're
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  Speaker 1: our kicker, but we're gonna work some guys out now,
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  Speaker 1: because if Elliott went south, he's not he's he's had
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  Speaker 1: a rough season. But if he went south where he's
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  Speaker 1: totally in his head, it's not just mechanical. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want to wait till it's too late, and wait till
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  Speaker 1: we get to the kicker problems for the Bills. This
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  Speaker 1: is there another team. I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 1: with their kicker problems with injury, but we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a minute. But that's it for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, like a lot of teams, they're
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  Speaker 1: working on Tuesday because of the Christmas holiday, and the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, will not practice on Thursday Christmas. They're
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  Speaker 1: working Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. All right, let's get to
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  Speaker 1: the Bills because there's a lot Josh Allen, so he
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  Speaker 1: dinned his foot during the win over the Browns. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't miss a snap. The X rays were negative. Sean McDermott,
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  Speaker 1: their head coach, said he was just sore on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: He's definitely gonna start, but he maybe they're not sure yet.
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  Speaker 1: They want to see whatever treatment they give him. They
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  Speaker 1: want to see how his foot is as the week progresses,
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  Speaker 1: depending and that'll determine how much he's limited, if at all,
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  Speaker 1: in practice. So let's get to the injuries. Curtis Samuel
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  Speaker 1: is on IR. He was in a high priced free
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  Speaker 1: agent they signed some years ago. Been hurt a lot, neck, GRIBs, elbow,
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  Speaker 1: kne this season. The knee was the one to put
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  Speaker 1: him on IR. He's been on IR since Week thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: SOT fifteen sixteen, so he's actually eligible to come back
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  Speaker 1: this week or least practice. He could. We'll see if
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  Speaker 1: they DFR and which means designated for return. But Curtis
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  Speaker 1: Samuel is that he could play slide, he could play
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  Speaker 1: out white. He's actually a good player. He might run
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  Speaker 1: from the Panthers and the Commandos. But it hasn't really
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  Speaker 1: worked out like they had hoped with Curtis Samuel. They
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Josh Allen's got to be
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  Speaker 1: Superman is because they're just not talent enough at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: They don't it when you look at their receiver corps.
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  Speaker 1: Khalier Shakira is one Leak's first told mate, boy, if
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  Speaker 1: you really had your druthers, he'd be your three. But
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  Speaker 1: he's paid to be number two. Remember they brought in
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Kean Coleman has not worked out at all.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a bust so far, major disappointment. He was
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  Speaker 1: going to be their starting X receiver. That's why. That's
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  Speaker 1: the bigger reason why they struggle, and that's why they
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  Speaker 1: brought in Brandon Cook's nice signing. Josh Palmer has been
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  Speaker 1: hurt a lot. He's not on the injury report, but
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  Speaker 1: he's been in disappointment. He's got two years of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guaranteed money, a good player, but he's another
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  Speaker 1: guy's cut. They have a bunch of guys who you
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  Speaker 1: look at, his number three is not twos or ones.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem, all right. Getting back to the Bill's injuries. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here you go. So Tyler Bass their kicker. He's on
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  Speaker 1: playing the season. He had the hit, he had the hip,
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  Speaker 1: he had the hip issue. He went on Iron Week one.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Prater his Matt Prader his replacement. He didn't play
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  Speaker 1: last week with right calf and right quadriceps issue, the
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  Speaker 1: white quadriceps of the real issue. But that's I don't
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  Speaker 1: you can't kick like that. You can't kick. You can't
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  Speaker 1: kick with a bad thigh and a bad calf. And
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  Speaker 1: then the journeyman Michael Badgeley's filling in form. So they're
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  Speaker 1: on their third kicker, and they're on their second punter.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Johnston the former Eagles punter, by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: has a foot injury. He's on ir Mitch Wichnowski, you
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  Speaker 1: might remember him, forward Niners kicker with a right knee injury.
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  Speaker 1: He actually played last week with it, so he's ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. Now here's the problem on defense. Daikwon Jones
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  Speaker 1: been around a long time. He's had a linger in
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  Speaker 1: caff injury. He missed a couple of games earlier. He's
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  Speaker 1: expected to go. He's day to day. McDermott called him
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. Shaq Thompson the forward Panthers linebacker. He starts
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  Speaker 1: for them. He's got a neck injury. They think he'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to go, but he may not practice a
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  Speaker 1: lot Jordan Poyer, a former second a seventh rounder in
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. You might remember Poyer really made his hay
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  Speaker 1: with the Browns, moved from corner to safety, and then
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  Speaker 1: signed for big money with the Bills. He's near the
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  Speaker 1: end of his career. He did sign with a practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: He's now starting because Taylor Rapp had knee surgery and
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  Speaker 1: will not return. Taylor rap from the Rams and he's
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  Speaker 1: been with the build for a little bit. Supporters starting
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  Speaker 1: there also in defense at Oliver torn biceps. There's a
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  Speaker 1: chance he could return for the playoffs. He certainly won't
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  Speaker 1: return this week or next week. Dean Walker, a fourth rounder,
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  Speaker 1: starts for him. Jordan Phillips so of, a journeyman defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 1: missed last week's game with an ankle injury. So they're
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  Speaker 1: very banged up at the tackle and it showed a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when Trayvon Henderson went off the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots running back. Unfortunately for fantasy people, he got hurt
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  Speaker 1: with a head injury during Sunday Night's game against the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: So he will see if he could play the following week.
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  Speaker 1: But they've got problems with defensive tackle. They will have
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  Speaker 1: some games where they give up some big run plays,
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  Speaker 1: so watch out for that. And we know the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: are back running and they're running really well. Barkley's really
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  Speaker 1: coming on and listen. I do need to mention this
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  Speaker 1: the early call for weather. You're probably listening to this
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning. The early call for weather is mid
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  Speaker 1: to high thirties rain, rain in the morning, sleet, snow
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  Speaker 1: possibly in the afternoon, some wind. We'll update this forecast.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm crazy for faithful listeners to our show
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  Speaker 1: with the wind, but you better watch that stuff. Folks
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  Speaker 1: that you better be able to run. If you can't
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  Speaker 1: run in bad weather, you're stuck. And that's the key.
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  Speaker 1: And of course they have James Cook, the other shote,
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  Speaker 1: whose I believe better than his brother Dalvin, and he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't had the injury so that Dalvin had. But it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a fun one at four twenty five
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  Speaker 1: eastern is it for twenty five in Orchard Park, New York.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the early call on the injuries. We'll see,
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  Speaker 1: we will talk to you soon. It's Adam kaplan for
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  Speaker 1: inside the Birds. The