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Episode 228 - WWE Night of Champions* Predictions · My Third Place Pod

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Taking a break from getting absolutely dropped out in Marble
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Rivals Season 2.5, I really AM to tag to tag you in for another
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Powerbomb edition of the MTV podcast.
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Welcome back on the cartridge. Tonight we're lacing up the
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boots, oiling up the mic and stepping into the squared circle
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for a hold no hold bar predictions brawl.
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And trust me, this card is looking more stacked than a
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ladder match to have money in the bank.
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Jesse, how you doing? Welcome in joining me on the con
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at the commentary table. Joining me at the commentary
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table is my day one stablemate, the enforcer of opinions, the
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Mike swinging menace herself. Menace.
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How you feeling? How you feeling as we walk that
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aisle into Saturday night May Night of Champions?
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Saturday Night of Champions. I'm so.
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Confused. Yeah.
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Let's hope it happens. Yeah, unfortunately.
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Yeah, unfortunately, let's just hope it happens.
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It does happen. So much stuff going on in the
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world at the moment because of this, so, well, not because of
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this, but because maybe it might not happen.
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And so far as we it's like what few days away it eventually
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happening, I guess what they're going to like cancel it the last
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minute on us and like. I have no idea.
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Or maybe move it somewhere real quick.
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Pivot at the last minute. Yeah, Jesse says menace.
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Hi, Jesse. Night of Champions at the
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Kingdom Arena in Raida, Saudi Arabia.
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Tagline. I can't.
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I can't believe this is a tagline.
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Oh my gosh. You ready for the tagline?
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What the the last time is now? That's the time.
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Again instead. Of guest.
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You should have guessed start times. 10 AM Pacific, that's
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you. Noon Central, that's me. 1:00 PM
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Eastern, That's everyone on the East Coast.
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These are the 24th tradition of men's King of the Ring
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tournament and 3rd edition Women's Queen of the Ring
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tournament. Oscar versus Jade Cargill for
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the women's Queen of the Ring final during the June 6th
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episode of Smackdown. The tournaments for the 24th
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King the Ring and 3rd Queen of the Ring were announced to begin
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on June 9th. Episode of Raw held across
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episode of Raw Smackdown culminating at night of
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Champions of Winter tournament receiving a match for the World
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Championship for the respective Brandon Summersam.
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The semifinals took place on the June 2020 third episodes of
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Smackdown and Raw. Randy Orton, Cody Rd., both from
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Smackdown, won the respective semifinal matches, setting up
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for the King of the Ring, while Ross Oscar and Smackdown, Jay
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Cargill won their respective semifinal matches, setting up
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the Queen of the Ring final. All right, so first match of the
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night, Oscar versus Jay Cargill. This who Jay Cargill be tiny as
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Roxanne Perez. I mean, damn, it was, it was fun
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much? It was great, but still, like
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what? What's going on?
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You know what, I I think it's Jade's time, you know, because
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she because she has to make up for lost time from being
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injured. So I think that's why she's in
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the mat. Not that she didn't deserve it.
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She's she did really good, but I don't know, I think I must say
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OOOO, because you know, she she again, she's another one that's
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been injured. You know she was gone, right.
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I didn't realize it for 13 months.
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Right. So I was like, yeah.
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She still looked like she like she.
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I haven't seen her in a while. Can we get some Oscar matches as
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well? Like even even a even if Matt is
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like, oh, OK, cool, she's here, Yeah.
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So I say Oscar. Oscar.
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All right, I'm gonna say Jade. OK.
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Yeah, you're right. They're both been gone.
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And Jade's been like the whole Naomi thing.
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I did it for The Rock. Yeah.
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Yeah. I just feel like, OK, so Jade
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has had their time where she has to like where they took her out
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for a while for storyline purposes, and now she's back and
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now like, all right, let's let's do this.
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This is going to be a great match because you just don't
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know what these two, they both like.
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Oscar throws a mean hit and Jade is just like a powerhouse I
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think. This would be a, you know, a
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good match for Jade because, you know, Oscar's not going to let
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her go quick. It's not going to go.
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Quick SO. I think this is going to test
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Jade's stamina and now she can go in the ring with somebody
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who's a worthy opponent. Right.
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And it's in Saudi Arabia, so I can't wait to see what Jada is
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wearing. Yeah.
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Oh, she's going to be all covered up, you know, They all
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are. They all are, but still.
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I can't wait to see what they're going to be wearing for that
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when they're all covered up. Even like it's it just looks
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kind of looks so crazy and like I haven't seen Oscar in a while.
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And Jade. Wow.
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All right, same thing with Randy Orton, with Cody Rhodes, men's
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King of the Ring tournament final.
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Cody Rhodes beat his best friend Jade Russo on Monday, so he gets
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to advance after the match. Footage of made it to online
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where he says like I had to beat up my best friend.
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Yeah. And then he looks over at the at
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him birth with Cody Rhodes or him birth with Randy Orton
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thing. Yeah.
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And I got to beat up the guy that like that brought me in and
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all that stuff. Evolution.
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My my, my freaking father figure, something like that.
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And, you know, and then after that, I I go after John Cena and
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I'm like all three guys that I was rooting for.
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I'm not rooting for him. Brazil, like, yeah, it's great.
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I was like, I knew he was going to win.
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I'm just like. Yeah.
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Come on. Really.
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All right, fine, I really. Wanted to see Jay when?
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Right. Give him a little, you know,
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because keep that momentum going.
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Exactly main event here. I think Randy, Randy to win,
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yeah. Yeah, and also because last year
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he lost. There's no way he's going to
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lose 2 in a row, will he? No2 King of the Rings in a row
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unless he does and turns heel after this.
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Yeah. Was like, he has to win a third
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king of the ring and he has to get up to 18 again and.
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Get up to. John Cena.
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He has to. He said this is going to be #15
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so. Yeah, All right, so we're both
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saying Randy Orton. OK All right, Next match, Jake
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about two for solo United States Championship.
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As a result, solo Sakola losing the Annoya family's ULA Fala
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necklace to his cousin Roman Reigns during Ross Netflix
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premiere in January. Damn.
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Tensions arose between Sokoa and his other cousin and Bloodline
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David made Jacob A2, which continue to build over the next
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few months. Over the June 6th episode of
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Smackdown, Part 2 overheard Sokoa insulting him while
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talking with JC Mateo. I love Jeff Cobb's new name
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being Part 2 to retrace Sokoa and cost him the Money in the
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Bank ladder match at the eponymous event the next night.
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On the following episode of Smackdown, Sokoa stated that he
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would appear on next week's episode, willing to accept Part
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2 back into the group. There Sekoa apologize to Phi 2,
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who did not accept it. It's there.
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It stated that Sekoa changed since 521 the United
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Championship at WrestleMania 41 in April, Fat 2 didn't challenge
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to go to a match for the title. However, Sekoa tried to attack
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what to prevent it. Mattel joined the court to
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attack by two at the upper hand after an assist from his cousin
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Jimmy USO. Late at night, Fat 2 announced
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that after speaking with Smackdown General Manager.
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I think all this he would depend the title against Sekoa at Night
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of Champions. I love that the United States
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Championship being defended and like these two like yes, you.
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Know what I'm I really am looking forward to this one.
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You are, yeah. Because I want to see them
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against each other, you know? I know that Jacob's an amazing
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wrestler, you know, seeing him for his stature, he's truly
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athletic. But I want I want to see Solo be
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serious, you know, and this match is going to be serious for
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him because he's going against his cousin, you know, and he
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thought that he was going to put him in line, but Jacob was ahead
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of him. So my prediction is I I think
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Jacob's going to win this, but it's going to be a really good
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match. So I got Jacob I.
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Mean, I love Jacob. Yeah, I like Jacob more than
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solo. Maybe it's the I mean, they're
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all from the same state and everything, like, but maybe it's
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because Jacob using the actual lingo from the Bay and
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everything, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I mean, and like, he's a gay guy.
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He's a yay area guy. So I have to go with the yay
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area. You know, I got to go with my
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Bay guy. Sure.
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Frisco. I got to go with my guy from
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Frisco. Jacob Batu, I believe, is going
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to win. I mean, solo, funny, hilarious
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and stuff. What is this?
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OK, so those hilarious. Yeah.
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So those hilarious and stuff. And then like, yeah, OK.
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But same time, like, I don't believe it anymore.
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It's like I saw you were a serious guy and then doing some
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other random stuff. I'm gonna go with Jacob.
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Yes. Sami.
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Sami Zayn wears this carrying cross just just match that it's
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happened on Monday. Since early 2025, Karen Cross
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had been targeting Xemi saying with the two having several
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backstage conversations across mock paying for failing into the
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world champion. Further, after being limited in
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the semifinals of King of the Ring tournament, Zayn was
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confronted by Cross once again on June 23rd, up with Raw who
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said Zayn would never be a world champion.
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Zayn punch Cross and announced that after talking with Raw
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general manager Adam Pierce, a match between the two was made
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official later tonight. It would confirm that the match
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would take place at Night of Champions Scarlett and Carrion
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had a little laugh there, saying he he took the bait.
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OK, don't know what that meant. All right.
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Well, you know, he's been trying to get him, you know, to, to do
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something I think is what it is. Yeah, all that shit.
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Well, you know, he's yeah, but he's like, because he asked him
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a couple weeks. So he's like, what you do?
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What do you want? What do you want?
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Why? You know, why do you keep
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messing with me? And he's like, because you're
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not a good guy. You know, he's carrying was
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like, you're not a good guy. You're a liar.
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You're lying to yourself. You're lying to the fans.
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You know, I want, you know the truth.
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I want you to show who you really are and be who you really
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are, Not this guy who's, you know, trying to be everybody's
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friend and all that good stuff. Clock's ticking there, bud, and
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you know. And I want to see carrying
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crossfight, you know, he's been just all this doing this
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backstage stuff. And if they have nothing
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creatively for him, him and his wife are going to be next.
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So they need to do something with him or let him go.
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I mean, they, they have been in the chopping block ever since,
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he said. Say something about Logan Paul.
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Yeah. And that little play, Yeah.
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So he doesn't care anymore. He even grabbed her ass and
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everything. Really.
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Look at this. I'm like what?
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The. Hell, are you doing doesn't care
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anymore? Like, fire me, fire me, do it.
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That's fine. I don't care.
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Want to see it? Do it.
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Do it. AWMW, all that stuff everywhere.
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There's more, there's more places out there.
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Yeah. So I take carrying cross on this
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one. Carrying cross, yeah, every,
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every little, every time he carrying across gets in
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someone's face and all that stuff.
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Puts the timer on them, that person turns heel or changes.
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So yeah, Sammy's time is coming. Can't wait for that.
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It just announced a street fight between 3 mommy and mommy.
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My. My my 2 Mummies Ria Ripley Ria
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Ripley was for Cal Rodriguez in a street fight on the June 9th
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episode of Raw. Raquel Rodriguez interfere and
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Rio Ripley's Queen of the Ring qualifying match on behalf of
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attacking partner Liv Morgan, costing Ripley to match Ripley
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would in turn cost Rodriguez her qualifying match the following
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week on the June 23rd episode, Rodriguez called out Ripley and
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a brawl ensued between both women, with Rodriguez performing
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at the Hana Bomb on Ripley through a table.
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Later, Ripley demanded Raj and her manager appeared for a match
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against Rodriguez in the street fight was scheduled for that
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champion. And it's not like Nonchali did
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it. I was like, OK, yeah, yeah.
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Problem. Sure.
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Ripley. Yeah.
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Ria. OK, OK, OK.
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I love her new tattoo by the way.
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Yeah. Is it the second one on her
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stomach? Is it?
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It is. Oh.
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Is it OK? Like, I haven't seen it.
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So yeah, it's new to me. Yeah.
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But both mommies Rio Ripley Mommy and Raquel Mommy and they
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both they both have the initials RR.
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The R&R connection as they used to be called, Well, I'm going
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with Maria to win. Ria, yes, I mean obviously
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original. Mommy, I'm a.
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I'm a I'm a I'm gonna say Tehana mommy.
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Tehana mommy. Yeah, let's go with Tehana
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mommy. I feel like Roxanne Rodriguez
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gonna interfere. Oh, you know she is.
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Yeah, she. Couldn't get in there because.
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It's a street fight, so there's no DQS, anything goes so.
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Yeah. So, and especially since Raquel
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embraced Roxanne, you know, after she realized that she's
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there to help her 'cause she got no one else, 'cause her sister
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is not here anymore, so. And the other Roxanne mommy is
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from Texas also, so you know that counts.
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All these little mommies, huh? So, Tehana mommies.
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Yeah. Tehana mommies are going to get
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on Mommy. Mommy, it's a mommy street
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fight. Yeah, it's a mommy street fight.
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I can't wait for the Mommy Street fight.
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It's going to be amazing. It's going to be awesome.
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All right, so safe to. Say that you're not going to go
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get something to eat during this fight, huh?
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No, I'm watching both mommies. I'm watching both mommies.
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I got paid attention to mommies. Let's do a prediction for
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Saturday night's main event on July 12th, Gunther versus
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Goldberg. What do you think of that you
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know at? First I was like, I don't
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understand, but then when they talked about it on raw, you know
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that Gunther said, you know, you hope that he's a better father
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than he is a wrestler because you know, I get you know, you
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said that about to Gage. You know, he he got his licking.
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So I'm I'm really excited to see this fight only because you
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know, it's going to be it's it's going to be interesting to see
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if Goldberg stills got it. I mean, he's he's pumped, he's
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pumped for it. Gunther's pumped for it.
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Let's let's just see I. Want to see how many slaps
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Gunther gets away with this with with hitting on Goldberg when
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Goldberg fall like do it again and then he does it again like
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spear. Yeah.
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How many, how many slap does it take to get Goldberg?
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And then for Goldberg to like snap and spare him and then do
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all that stuff. And obviously there's going to
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be the whole, it's going to be a 5 minute match, blah, blah.
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Maybe, maybe not. We'll see how Gunther takes him
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out and all that stuff. Yeah.
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But yeah, if I'm choosing anybody's going to be Gunther.
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Yeah. Like I don't want Goldberg with
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the belt. Well, are they fighting for the
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belt? They are I.
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I are they. I hope they won't.
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I hope they're not, but I. You.
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Know. Yeah.
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I hope they're not. I mean, I just know that he
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picked him. So he said that's going to, you
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know, that's, I'm assuming it's his retirement match, so.
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Like, that's retired by Gunther, all right?
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Sure, John Cena versus CM Punk for the Undisputed W
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Championship. On the June 9th episode of Raw,
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the Undisputed W champion John Cena was confronted by long time
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rival CM Punk, but with Punk challenging Cena to a title
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match on the 9th episode, Cena's accepted Punk's challenge, but
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only the title match was the United champion in Saudi Arabia,
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referencing Punk's past real life criticism of these
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relationship with the Middle Eastern country.
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Punk agreed and was made official.
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You asked a while back why does why is CM Punk would be
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considered a hypocrite if he accepted?
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Here it is. He criticized everybody that,
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you know, made that went over there a while when he wasn't
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working at all. You know.
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So basically all that and then two weeks ago, what's on Friday,
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last Friday, the John Cena pie pump.
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I love that 1. I loved it.
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I enjoyed every minute of it. Oh yeah.
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But as to who's winning? Really.
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Really. There's only one person I'd
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rather have win on and when it comes to this fight, so yeah.
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And. And and you know, I bought 2
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shirts, the CM Punk shirt and the John Cena shirt just in case
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whoever won that night, I'll be wearing that shirt that night.
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There. My guy won all right.
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So you're going to do one of those, you know, have one shirt
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on and then whoever's the winner, you're going to end up
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with that shirt. Yes, ma'am.
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Have both. So time to take one off,
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whichever one this blazer. There it is.
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That's the reason why I chose no.
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It's like I've always wanted a John Cena shirt in the
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background, obviously. So you know, I it's his final
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run. I want to support the guy.
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I know he's a heel, but he's that's my favorite heel right
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there. Him doing the pipe bomb and.
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So what is the is that shirt you're wearing?
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Is it inspired of any anyone? Or is it just one of his, one of
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his, the last? The last time is now sure after
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that you can't see me on the back.
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Right. And yeah, it's like watching
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that promo on Friday and realizing that Cody Rhodes is
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protected because why didn't we get this Cena against Cody
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Rhodes? All you saw was Cody Rhodes just
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throwing jab and jab and jab and jab while Cena was just.
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Yeah. Let me tell you know, like he
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was, he was blocking and hitting, blocking, hitting
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while, you know, Cody was just jab, jab, jab, jab, jab here is
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like even from Randy Orton to here, like, you know, throwing
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those punches in there and like knocking them out.
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And Cena's gonna win. Like, it was the only time.
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I will say that Cena's gonna win against Punk.
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Punk is like, I I know. Yeah.
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You, you're not gonna mind. You said a lot of things in the
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past. You're not gonna mind that you
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lose here. It's just you lost that wrestle
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Mania. It's fine.
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You're fine. You'll get your championship run
23:07
later in the year. Later next year, you'll have
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your WrestleMania moment again, blah, blah, blah, all that
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stuff. Let John Cena have his moment.
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You know, all that shit. Yeah.
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So yeah, that's who I think is going to win.
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What do you think? Well, I'm not really feeling
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either one of them, but if I have to say hey, hey, hey, but
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if I have to pick, I was going to, I was going to say Sampa.
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OK, Singapunk. All right.
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Why? Because I think they're going
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to, he's going to start his his run.
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And then because John Cena is not retiring until, you know,
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December, Yeah, Dan Punk wins. And then he fights John Cena
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again in November, and John Cena wins in November and takes the
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title. Damn.
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So CM Punk. Calls the belt for like another
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few more months and then John Cena beats him.
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Yeah, because. Takes the belt runs.
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So because we've got, you know, CM Punk, if let's say he wins,
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you know what, that's my prediction.
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He wins. Whoever wins at Night of
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Champions fights fights him, right?
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So if it's Randy, Randy would fight CM Punk, you know, or
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maybe Cody would fight CM Punk, even though I know they're on
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two different brands. It doesn't really matter right
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now because everybody is just so is, you know, fighting whoever
24:55
they want because that's just how it's being run right now.
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But I think if CM Punk wins, he fights, let's say he fights
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Randy, wins against Randy, you know, and they kind of do a, a
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storyline there. But then John Cena, because he's
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John Cena, decides he wants to fight at, you know, Survivor
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Series. And then he says he's going to
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retire it. They let him retire it.
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He takes it and they start new next year.
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Yes. That's what I think, and you got
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me to say. See if Huck's going to win.
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I know, right? And I'm not even voting.
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About that at all you and Greg are going to be so happy that I
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said that I mean I don't have to hear anything your.
25:49
Sister's going to be very upset with.
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My boys, your. Sister's going to be very upset
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with you. Man, I know they're going.
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To be very disappointed. That's OK, but that's just what
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my prediction is. Very disappointed sisters over
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there. No.
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Well, remember, they're going to be on in a couple of weeks.
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Oh. Yeah, that's great evolution.
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Yeah. Can't wait.
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Yeah, can't wait. Back up this time, right?
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You're supposed to have the back up you and Greg against me and
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my sister so. There you go.
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OK, like you said a couple of weeks ago, you did say thank you
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for the roses. Thank you Disney Queen.
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How you doing? A couple of weeks ago you asked
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about the whole John Cena see in Punk feud.
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Yes. So I'm thinking of doing this
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for now, like you asked for a feud and like I'll come up with
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the the specifics of the feud that happened.
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This goes to the fact that you haven't watched wrestling in a
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while because like you stopped watching wrestling for a while.
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So here let me let me put you into, let me let me school you
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on this. OK, I'm ready.
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All right, the John Cena or CM Punk feud, a battle for the soul
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of WE. It happened from 2011 to 2013,
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the clash of errors and ideologies.
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By 2011, John Cena was the face of WE a Company man, hero to
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kids and the symbol of Vince McMahon's corporate machine.
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Like CM Punk said, you're just a spoke on the wheel.
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And CM Punk also said I'm spoke also, but you know, you're the
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one that kisses ass. He's been world champion
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multiple times. Headline WrestleMania after
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WrestleMania was portrayed as nearly untouchable.
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Enter CM Punk, the straight edge Indy darling from Chicago who
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had clawed his way up from the Ring of Honor and ETW.
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He didn't fit the WE mode. He wasn't bodybuilder.
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He didn't kiss ass. He was brash, brilliant on Mike
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and Grizzly better at being overlooked.
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Their feud would become a metaphor for the conflict
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between the corporate Chosen One and the people of Rebel the Pipe
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Bomb which was CM Punk by POM that happened in June 27th,
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2011. This is where this feud goes
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nuclear. CM Punk sitting cross legged on
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the stage drops the now famous pipe bomb from on Ross
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shattering the 4th wall and calling out John Cena, Vince
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McMahon, Triple H, The Rock and WS favoritism.
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It's basically the same thing that John said, but only in CM
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Punk's way of saying it. I don't hate you, John.
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I hate this idea that you're the best because you're not.
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I'm the best, the best at what I do.
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On the mic in the ring, on commentary, he just goes off and
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then he says something about Vince McMahon calls out The Rock
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saying that he's the biggest ass kisser ever.
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Yeah Dwayne, he didn't say the Rock.
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He said Dwayne is ass kiss or ever which comes back to bite
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him later in two years after that because he gets beat by the
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rock for the. World title.
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Punk declared his contract was firing him money in the bank
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2011 and he planned to win the OU championship and leave the
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company with it. Same thing that is happening at
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this moment with John Cena saying I'm leaving the with the
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belt and John Cena doing the whole kiss at the very end of
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that promo going like this is a reminiscent of CM Punk doing it
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to Cena at Money in the Bank 2011 when he beat him and like
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you know like that and it's like bye I'm leaving with the belt
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I'm out of here. Few days later he post a tweet
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that he had the belt and he put it inside his fridge.
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So when he opens the fridge and it's like right there in the
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fridge. Also, I think a week later it
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was a Comic Con that we have a panel and Stephanie was there
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and then or I think it was Triple H was there and he walks
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over and thought like, can we do business and blah, blah.
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And he's all like, yeah, your wife has my number and all that.
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He's just like trying to get into under his skin.
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Money in the Bank 2011 July 17th, 2011 in Chicago.
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It if you're to go watch a match between these two, out of all
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the matches, it's going to be Money in the Bank 2011 in
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Chicago. Because she went there and he
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was supposed to be the biggest heel, but he showed up and like
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Bam, I remember when was it Puerto Rico and that Bunny
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showed up and everything. How that pop, that's how big a
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pop up was. So punk pop was as big as that
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one? Wow.
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It is one of the greatest dirty matches of all time.
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To Punk's hometown, Cena's Championship versus Punk the
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Outsider with Vince McMahon at ringside, Sheamus had just.
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I think it was Alberto Rio that just won the Money in the Bank.
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OK. So like does match had a real
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crowd heat. The Chicago fans were volcanic
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for Punk and venomous towards Dina.
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They hated Cena. It's the same messing as ECW
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when Cena was there. There were signs that said if
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Cena wins me riot. Right.
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After a classic 30 minute battle battle CM Punk pen John Cena
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clean. He blew a kiss to Miss Mcman and
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left to the crowd. The championship and contract
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expired events even called out for Albert for the real come out
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like come on out with your with the briefcase and hurry up real
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life influence punks contract was expiring but he has secretly
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resigned the reality and K fate master here.
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So the whole he's still like you know like OK we're we're in in
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our world like where we know it's fake.
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But that same time we're going to pretend that it's real.
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He was making appearance as he was taking pictures of the belt.
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He went to the comic book convention where they were going
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to be at. As I like, you know, I just, I
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was like, you want me back? I, you want this belt, like have
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your wife call me you. Your wife has my number.
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So Chapter 3 dual champion summer 2011 and it was supposed
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to be the summer Punk with Punk on West crown the new champion
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John Cena. So they had.
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So they had to crown a new champion.
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So what was it? I think it was this whole moment
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where there was a tournament and the last two were John Cena and
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Rey Mysterio. OK.
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And John Cena beat Rey Mysterio and everybody was pissed off.
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Although. How dare you, how dare you beat
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our Ray Ray at After the match, John Cena's holding his
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championship belt. And before this, Punk didn't
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have the call the personality song.
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It was another. Song.
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So like when cola personality hit, nobody knew what was going
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on. OK, so it's like there's like
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and all that stuff and like, look in my eyes and everybody's
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all like, what's going on? And then you see the Chicago
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flag and everything. Yeah, he.
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Comes out with his championship belt so there's there's now 2
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champions and it was dubbed the Summer of Punk.
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However, it was short lived. AAA took over day-to-day
34:17
operations on screen and the feud became overbooked,
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eventually leading to see Punk versus Cena Summer Slam 2011.
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Another one again where Punk again beat Cena but then Kevin
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Nash interfered and Alberto the Real cashed in money in the
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bank. The momentum cooled so Alberto
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cashed it in. He won the belt.
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He was champion for a little while.
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I think it was 2012, when after WrestleMania, when Dolph Ziggler
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cashed in his. It was awesome.
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It was awesome. So did they have money in the
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bank? So for money in the bank at this
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time it was a Rob Money in the Bank and the Smackdown run money
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in the bank. Oh wow.
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Yeah. So for Raw it was Alberto.
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For Smackdown, it was. Or maybe it was like.
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Later that night, I don't know, after I totally forgot, maybe it
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was just like. Summer time.
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Respect and rivalry in 2012 and 2013.
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CM Punk turned mid heel in mid 2012 by lining with Paul Heyman
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and holding the 30 championship for 434 days, the longest modern
35:26
reign. This is before Roman Reigns and
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stuff. So he he he was faced for a
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while. Hey Jen, how you doing?
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How you been? He was faced for a while and
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like him holding the belt and telling John Cena now it's like,
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I know what it does to you. I know what all that stuff
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because it did to him around holding up the belt for a whole
35:48
year and then heading into 300, heading into 400 days.
35:53
Like it turned him into the biggest, biggest heel and
35:57
everything and he turned into a Paul Heyman guy it.
36:02
Meanwhile, Cena remained a top draw and always loomed.
36:05
The rivalry ignite reignited in 30/20/13 when Punk felt robbed
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the WrestleMania spotlight again the WrestleMania him wanting to
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be the. WrestleMania.
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Spotlight him wanting to be in the main event, he insisted he
36:19
was better than Cena Moore deserving the main event and the
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true best in the world. The two men in another classic
36:25
match on February 25th, 2013 episode of Manera, often called
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a WrestleMania worthy match. Cena won earning a shot at The
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Rock at WrestleMania 29. Punk versus Cena became the
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bridge between two eras. So The Rock had beat CM Punk at
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Royal Rumble for the championship at that year, the
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2013 year, and then it was supposed to be Cena versus CM
36:55
Punk again to go to WrestleMania and have that main event match.
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Cena won that match and went on to face The Rock and beat The
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Rock at WrestleMania 29 at that year.
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That's also the year. That is it the year.
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No, it's the next year. Never mind.
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That is CM Punk walks out because he didn't get his way
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and all that stuff and all that aftermath and legacy.
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CM Punk would exit WE after 2014 Royal Rumble delusion with the
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company, a real life echo of the pipe bomb.
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Cena continues to face the W into transitioning into a part
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time role. Their feud remains legendary for
37:36
several reasons. It reinvigorated the WE
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storytelling with real life tension.
37:41
It proved that the audience wanted something different, not
37:44
just what WE marketed. It blurred the lines between
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work and shoot with CM Punk doing the pipe bomb and John
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Cena saying, you know this is when John Cena became like the
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best on the mic ever because he told The Rock was like you have
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your what your, your promo on your wrist.
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You broke your promo to your wrist.
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He will always be the best on the microphone.
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Same with CM Punk. Those two will go after each
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other and he gave us one of the most iconic promos and matches
38:15
wrestling history. The feud highlights the Pop the
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pipe bomb promo in 2011, the Money the Bank 2011 match of the
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year, dual champion showdown, Raw main event clinic level
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wrestling, real life fallout, punks 2014 departure and
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lawsuit. He also sued Rest EE because he
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was having internal problems and he was hurt.
38:38
He sued the doctor everything and there's like a big moment.
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He went on a podcast and just told everything every about
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them. Scene of his Punk wasn't just
38:49
about a belt, it was about ideology.
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Out in this scene who got to define success in WE in the ring
38:55
and on the mic it was a master class.
38:57
In the fans hearts it was a war between what the was and what it
39:00
could be. Fast forward to now, their feud
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has risen from the ashes and they got a whole new layer and
39:10
intensity and both are in a different phase of their careers
39:14
but still staring down the same ring.
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Could be the final chapter. CM Punk returned to the late 23,
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shocking the world at Survivor Series in Chicago.
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His promo battle with Seth Rollins and Cody Rose reignited.
39:28
His old rebellions are up and now with a veteran edge.
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This isn't the pipe bomb Punk, it's wise Punk.
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John Cena had been appearance periodically hinting at
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retirement, legacy matches and unfinished business.
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When these two locked eyes, it's not about who's the best, it's
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about legacy finale and who history will remember more
39:47
fondly. It's going to be both.
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This. This rivalry hits different now
39:54
because in 2011, Cena was a company man.
39:56
Punk was the rebel 2025. Now Cena's the nostalgic legend,
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the one who left on top with grace.
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Punk is the returning Firestarter who walked down and
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came back with something to prove.
40:10
He said I carry this place when you're doing movies.
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I never turned my back on these fans.
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You walked out X those vinyl. Those freaking lines were
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better. Us both are among the top five
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talkers of all time because they are.
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She doesn't She doesn't need to protect the brand anymore.
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Punks already been to war with it.
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What can we expect in the match psychology heavy storyline not
40:40
just near falls and spots. Expect call Bastard 20/11/2013
40:44
is why you have to watch the match.
40:46
Their matches. Expect Cena mocking the GTS,
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expect Punk conjuring the five knuckle shuffle with a smirk.
40:55
I wore Wills Punk resilience with Cena's Unshaken with
40:58
termination, a battle over whose era, whose ethos was more
41:03
impactful, and a clean finish. This has to end.
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Definitely no run insurance, no interference, just two legends
41:09
deciding it the old school way. It has to finish clean or else
41:14
it's just why are we watching this?
41:18
Mistakes for seeing that this could be a final classic.
41:20
A chance to prove he wasn't just the corporate guy but the true
41:23
greatest of all time because he is the greatest of all time
41:26
punk. A redemption arc to prove he's
41:27
still the best in the world, not just the cult hero clinging to
41:30
the past. For the fans.
41:32
For us, he is a chance to witness appeal with a decade of
41:34
history come from circle. A love letter to modern
41:37
wrestling soul and age golden era.
41:39
So this is your like you have to go watch pass and then come back
41:44
and watch the what we're going to watch on Saturday.
41:46
Maybe there's going to be more matches in the later.
41:50
Possibly A twist. Career was career match Special
41:53
guest referee. Is our killings as long as Ron
42:00
killings isn't there? Ron Killings isn't.
42:03
Hopefully it's not there. When CM Punk and John Cena
42:06
finally step in the ring, it won't just be a wrestling match.
42:08
It'll be a reckoning, a clash between ideologies, eagles and
42:11
eras. The voice of the voices brings
42:13
the face that ran the place. This is more than full circle,
42:16
just legacy on the line. And this is history in real
42:20
time. And that is the lore behind John
42:27
Cena versus Steam Punk and they're legendary feud.
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OK. So like if you like, hey, if you
42:38
guys enjoyed this, like let me know and I can bring up another
42:42
more matches just like that more view.
42:45
You can let me know that which because you haven't watched
42:49
wrestling or you stopped watching wrestling for quite a
42:52
while. So if you need to ask more
42:54
questions like what happened between this and this, like let
42:56
me tell you. So we can do that and we can do
43:02
that in the next episode. Just let me know which ones and
43:05
then we can like definitely set that up.
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OK. Once again, catch the night of
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champions at the King of Arena and rise Saudi Arabia.
43:15
The last time is now. Start time 10:00 AM Pacific,
43:19
that's for her. New Central, that's for me. 1:00
43:21
PM Eastern. That's for anybody living in the
43:24
East Coast. Oscar was Jake Cargill for the
43:28
Queen of the Ring finals. Will the emperor silence the
43:29
storm or does Jake claim her throne?
43:34
Cody Rhodes was Randy Orton king of the ring finals.
43:37
Will Cody finally finish the story or get Archaeo out of
43:40
nowhere? Jacob fought two were still
43:43
Zakova for the intercom championship.
43:45
Bloodline drama hits different when these two clash. 2 mommies
43:49
were here. Ripley River Rodriguez, 2
43:51
Titans, one ring. Expect violence and lots of
43:55
mummies. Sami Zayn versus carrying across
43:59
chaos versus control and someone's catching a finisher.
44:03
And finally, John Cena versus CM Punk.
44:06
Look at these like everything I just told you about this morning
44:11
matches. Legacy was legend for the
44:13
Undisputed WE championship. Let us know your predictions,
44:17
let us know who you think's gonna win.
44:19
And we already gave you ours. So, you know, watch it on
44:24
Peacock. That's it.
44:28
Right. Yeah, that's it.
44:31
And. That's the final bell on today's
44:32
showdown. Major shout out to my guest,
44:34
Menace. You brought that minivan heat
44:36
and I dropped more knowledge than CM Punk with a live mic in
44:39
Chicago. You've got the Chrisman to rock,
44:41
the unpredictability of Moxie, and the impact of the Spear from
44:44
Goldberg in 1999 to the entire M3P universe.
44:50
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45:20
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45:23
You got me, brother. Yeah, that was a shot of Hogan.
45:31
And let us know if you want more lore.
45:35
More feud lore from any of your favorite wrestlers and I will
45:42
definitely do that. And on the next episode when me
45:45
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