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INSTANT REACTION: Donald Trump Becomes First Former US President Guilty of Crimes · Bloomberg Intelligence

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  Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.
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  Speaker 2: We just got from our reporters inside the courthouse. This
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  Speaker 2: is on the first count, count one, Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 2: found guilty. This is the former president of the United States,
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  Speaker 2: current presumptive Republican nominee is now a convicted felon, at
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  Speaker 2: least on one count. Count two also guilty. Remember, we
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  Speaker 2: have thirty four counts to get through here. This could
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  Speaker 2: take some time. Count three now Joe is also guilty.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to keep coming in here pretty quickly as
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  Speaker 3: the jury confirms to the judge they have a verdict,
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  Speaker 3: and this is going to start moving one, two, three guilty.
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  Speaker 3: Count four is just coming in right now. From our
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  Speaker 3: reporters inside the courtroom. Will remind you that we do
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  Speaker 3: not have cameras and microphones where the jury is reading
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  Speaker 3: Count one guilty, Count two guilty, same for count three.
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  Speaker 3: And it looks like we have so far all guilty
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  Speaker 3: waiting for number four. If I'm reading this right, it's
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  Speaker 3: now five guilty counts of thirty four. Kaylee will be
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  Speaker 3: watching these stream in for the next couple of moments.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and now it's six, seven, even up to nine
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  Speaker 2: counts guilty. Dane it seems that we are looking fairly
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  Speaker 2: consistent across all of these and it's worth keeping in
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  Speaker 2: mind that now that we have a guilty conviction on
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  Speaker 2: this twelve counts. Now he has been found guilty of
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  Speaker 2: each one of these carries a maximum penalty of four
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  Speaker 2: years in prison. Danna. Obviously he will not be sentenced today.
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  Speaker 2: The judge will schedule that for later. But as we
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  Speaker 2: now have sixteen guilty counts, do you expect he will
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  Speaker 2: spend time behind bars eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: I think that Judgement Shaan, throughout the course of the
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  Speaker 4: trial has emphasized how big of a deal it would
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  Speaker 4: be to put the former president and potential future president
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  Speaker 4: in prison, and so I think he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: weighing all of the options. I do not think Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump will be remanded today, so I don't think he'll
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  Speaker 4: go in today. And we'll see what Judgementschhaan does down
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  Speaker 4: the road. It'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 3: We are now at twenty seven guilty counts. This is
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  Speaker 3: remarkable as we make our way to thirty four. Here
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  Speaker 3: now twenty nine guilty counts coming from the jury in
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  Speaker 3: the courthouse in Lower Manhattan. Kaylee, we should probably let
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  Speaker 3: this breathe. We're now at thirty thirty one on our
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  Speaker 3: way to thirty four. This appears to be across the.
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  Speaker 2: Board thirty two guilty. Now there's only two counts left remaining,
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  Speaker 2: thirty three. We're waiting for the last one.
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  Speaker 3: Remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty four. Every single count with which Donald Trump was
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  Speaker 2: charged thirty four felony counts of falsifying business records he
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  Speaker 2: has indeed been found guilty of. Donald Trump is now
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  Speaker 2: running for president as a convicted felon, A convicted felon.
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  Speaker 3: Deanna, what is the Trump team planning now for an.
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  Speaker 5: Appeal or an appeal?
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  Speaker 4: They've been laying the groundwork throughout the course of the child,
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  Speaker 4: starting with the testimony from Stormy Daniels and about the
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  Speaker 4: the details of their sexual encounter. I think there's a
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  Speaker 4: number of different things that have come up throughout, but
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  Speaker 4: they've definitely been objecting enough that there are grounds for
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  Speaker 4: them to at least attempt to appeal this.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Dana, Paul, thank you so much for being
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  Speaker 2: with us as we deal with a breaking in real
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  Speaker 2: time story. Former President Donald Trump found guilty on all
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  Speaker 2: accounts in this criminal hush money trial. Joining us now
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  Speaker 2: for more analysis Bloomberg's Mario Parker and Megan Scully. Mario,
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  Speaker 2: obviously you covered the Trump White House, you now lead
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  Speaker 2: our White House and politics coverage. He is a convicted felon,
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  Speaker 2: and yet he is still going to be unless something
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  Speaker 2: changes the Republican nominee for president. What does this change
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  Speaker 2: politically as we are going to await his sentencing on.
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  Speaker 5: This, well, I think Joe used the word remarkable. What
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  Speaker 5: a remarkable time where we're living here right now? Right
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at some of the polling that's out, It's
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  Speaker 5: hard to tell at this point what will changing the
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  Speaker 5: political landscape. Looking at some of the polling, our swing
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  Speaker 5: state Bloomberg Morning Console poll had about twenty three percent
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  Speaker 5: of swing state voters back in January saying that a
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  Speaker 5: conviction may change their mind. Poll out this week from
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  Speaker 5: PBS News Hour NPR, sixty seven percent of Americans say
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  Speaker 5: that a conviction would make no difference. So we're all
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  Speaker 5: over the place. What we do know is that the
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  Speaker 5: Trump camp had already kind of started working the refs yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: saying that even mother Teresa, who would be found guilty
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  Speaker 5: in a case like this, now here's where the onus
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  Speaker 5: is on a We know that Donald Trump doesn't want
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  Speaker 5: the scarlet letter of a felony right on his record.
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  Speaker 5: We know that the Biden campaign will be attacking him
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  Speaker 5: along those lines. What they have to do is signal
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  Speaker 5: that this isn't a hush money case that he got
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  Speaker 5: convicted for. This is an election interference case, right, So
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  Speaker 5: they have to figure out a way to change the
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  Speaker 5: branding as long as it's a hush money case that
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  Speaker 5: kind of works in Donald Trump's favor. Right, it's salacious,
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  Speaker 5: but Americans are used to kind of the selaciousness with
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: This comes down to connecting the dots to that secondary argument. Essentially, Mario,
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  Speaker 3: the reaction from Congress is going to be interesting here, Megan,
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  Speaker 3: that's your area of specialty.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen a good chunk of the Republican conference make
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  Speaker 3: their way to this courthouse. What are the optics now
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  Speaker 3: for them?
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  Speaker 6: So they have been going to the courthouse. Speaker Johnson
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  Speaker 6: has as have several potential vice presidential candidates, including JD.
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  Speaker 6: Vance who's called for criminal investigation into Judge Marshan because
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  Speaker 6: of the gag order. So Speaker of the House himself,
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  Speaker 6: so yes, and I believe that we're just going to
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  Speaker 6: see Republicans doubling down and getting behind the president. I
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  Speaker 6: would be stunned if this changed anything for the lawmakers
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  Speaker 6: who have been behind the president. Where it gets a
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  Speaker 6: little harry for Republicans are in those close districts, those
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  Speaker 6: districts that Biden cares and in the Hudson Valley and
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  Speaker 6: in southern California, And it will be very interesting to
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  Speaker 6: see how they respond to this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And of course we're waiting to see how Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump himself responds. We are expecting we will hear from
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  Speaker 2: him this evening. But Mario Cours, the judge, is now
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  Speaker 2: in the courtroom thanking the jury for what he calls
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  Speaker 2: their hard work, the jury having just confirmed that, indeed
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  Speaker 2: they have found Donald Trump guilty on all of these
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  Speaker 2: counts of these crimes. Donald Trump has spoken outside that
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  Speaker 2: courthouse every single day for the duration of this His
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  Speaker 2: message has been consistent. He thinks that this is President
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  Speaker 2: Biden who has mobilized this weaponized justice system against him,
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  Speaker 2: that this is election interference. That message has been resonating.
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  Speaker 2: Can he not just have more fortification of that message
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  Speaker 2: now they convicted him? Does that actually give him political power?
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  Speaker 5: And yes to that point, that's exactly what you're going
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  Speaker 5: to expect to see.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at my phone right now because I'm expecting
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  Speaker 5: the fundraising appeals to come through.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 5: We know that Donald Trump hasn't seen a negative a
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  Speaker 5: piece of negative publicity that he hasn't tried to fashion
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  Speaker 5: it towards benefit. I mean, he essentially ran through the
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  Speaker 5: Republican primaries off the strength of some of these court cases. Right.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that I also want to note
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  Speaker 5: is just the steady flow of public support that he's
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  Speaker 5: got in the leaks as well. Right, We've got a
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  Speaker 5: Miriam Addelson saying today that she's going to essentially back
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  Speaker 5: a super pac form Steven Schwartzman over the last couple
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  Speaker 5: of days, Bill Ackman earlier as well, Nicky Hayley last week. Right,
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  Speaker 5: this isn't coincidental, Right, These are astute people. They know
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  Speaker 5: the political backdrop right now as well. And this is
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  Speaker 5: a signal too as to what their star warts support
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  Speaker 5: for the former president.
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  Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, this is special coverage on
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  Speaker 3: Bloomberg TV and Radio with thirty four guilty counts. Guilty
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  Speaker 3: on all counts for Donald Trump and the criminal hush
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  Speaker 3: money trial in New York. If you're with us on
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  Speaker 3: Bloomberg TV, you see live view outside the courthouse where
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  Speaker 3: security is tight. Bloomberg's David Goura telling us that helicopters
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  Speaker 3: were in the air in advance of the verdict being
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  Speaker 3: read out, and we want to go to him now
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  Speaker 3: with thanks to Megan Scully and Mario Parker. David Goura
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  Speaker 3: in Lower Manhattan. I suspect, David, things have become rather
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  Speaker 3: active outside the courthouse since this verdict was read. Do
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  Speaker 3: we hear next from Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 1: I think that we do, and I will say, as
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  Speaker 1: I heard you're reading those verdicts. I was surprised by
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  Speaker 1: how rapidly they came out, and I think that the
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  Speaker 1: protesters who had gathered here in front of the courthouse
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  Speaker 1: and Lower Manhattan were surprised as well. As you were
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  Speaker 1: reading through those counts, noting that all of them were guilty.
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  Speaker 1: We heard cheers erupt from that group of protesters, which
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  Speaker 1: again had swelled in size. I'd say they're probably fifty
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  Speaker 1: or sixty protesters who are gathered there now and then
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  Speaker 1: there has been a heightened police presence in this area
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  Speaker 1: for the duration of this trial. We saw movement as
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  Speaker 1: that verdict was being read aloud in the courtroom. It's
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  Speaker 1: now impossible to cross Center Street behind me. There's a
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  Speaker 1: line of police officers now kind of standing sentry in
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  Speaker 1: front of the courthouse, down the length of these blocks
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  Speaker 1: of Center Street in front of the courthouse behind me.
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  Speaker 1: So the atmosphere feels, yes, a great deal tenser, and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's this expectation, the sense of wondering what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen next, and when are we going to
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  Speaker 1: hear from the former president. My understanding is from colleagues
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  Speaker 1: who are in the courtroom he sat rather motionless as
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  Speaker 1: those verdicts were announced. So we wait to see sort
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  Speaker 1: of how that is transposed into comments from the former
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  Speaker 1: president here in the coming minutes.
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  Speaker 2: We understand that happening in the courtroom now included the
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  Speaker 2: defense David essentially asking for a judgment of the acquittal.
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  Speaker 2: That motion was denied by Judge Mrshawan, but Todd Blanche,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's defense attorney, argued that there was no way
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  Speaker 2: the jury could have reached a verdict without relying on
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  Speaker 2: the testimony of Michael Cohen, who Blanche said was a liar,
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  Speaker 2: that there was no reason the court should allow a
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  Speaker 2: verdict for that reason. I guess that just speaks to
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  Speaker 2: David the idea that this isn't necessarily done and dusted. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Trump is now a convicted felon, has been found guilty
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  Speaker 2: on all thirty four of these counts, but his defense
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  Speaker 2: could still try to appeal this and continue to fight
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  Speaker 2: this battle.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's all but certain. And you hear Todd
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  Speaker 1: Blanche sort of laying the groundwork for that in the
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  Speaker 1: courtroom now in a way that you would expect him
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  Speaker 1: to do. And so we're now in this kind of
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  Speaker 1: vacuum that opens up between this conviction and when Judge
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  Speaker 1: Jan Mrschon will sentence the former president. And having spoken
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  Speaker 1: to a few lawyers in advance of this decision, you
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  Speaker 1: know he's a first time felon. This is a low
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  Speaker 1: grade felony. I think that it is not by any
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  Speaker 1: means likely that he's going to serve prison, but time
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  Speaker 1: in prison, But it is, of course up to the
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  Speaker 1: judges discretion and the expectation here is in the state
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  Speaker 1: of New York, that's going to happen in about a
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  Speaker 1: month from now, So again it'll be a vacuum that
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  Speaker 1: opens up here. Now this conviction is in place, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how the president operates in that vacuum. As
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  Speaker 1: as you've been discussing here over these last few minutes,
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  Speaker 1: he is moving full speed ahead toward the election in
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  Speaker 1: early November, and this moves from the cruispool of this
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  Speaker 1: courtroom that he's been so clearly uncomfortable in and eager
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  Speaker 1: to get out of, onto the campaign trail ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the general election in November.
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  Speaker 3: David, thank you so much. Bloomberg's David Gora outside the
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  Speaker 3: courthouse as we wait to hear from the former president
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  Speaker 3: as part of our special coverage on Bloomberg TV and Radio.
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  Speaker 3: Let's bring back Deanna Paul, former New York City assistant
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  Speaker 3: da watching this along with us. We read the counts together,
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  Speaker 3: we learned the verdict together.
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  Speaker 4: Deanna.
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  Speaker 3: How long is it going to be before Americans hear
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  Speaker 3: about a sentence?
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  Speaker 4: I agree with what David was just saying. I would
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  Speaker 4: say probably about a month before Donald Trump has to
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  Speaker 4: come back to court and Judge Mrschan will sentence him.
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  Speaker 4: But given the historic nature of the case and who
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  Speaker 4: who the defendant is, I'm not sure if it'll be
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  Speaker 4: kind of par for the course.
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  Speaker 2: Well as if they could hear us. Judge Marshon has
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  Speaker 2: just answered that question. Todd Blanche requested a day in
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  Speaker 2: mid to late July, and Judge Mrschan says July eleventh
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  Speaker 2: will be the date for the sentencing. Remarkable to consider
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  Speaker 2: that July eleventh is just four days before the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the Republican National Convention, where Donald Trump is expected
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  Speaker 2: to officially become the Republican nominee for president in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. So it's interesting to consider the speech that
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump will be giving that week Diana could be
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  Speaker 2: colored by the fact that he will ultimately know what
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  Speaker 2: punishment he is facing for these crimes that he has
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  Speaker 2: been found guilty of. But the appeals process is we
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  Speaker 2: were just talking about what David Gurrow will likely extend
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  Speaker 2: far beyond July. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I imagine when Donald Trump and his attorneys
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  Speaker 4: speak today, that's exactly what they're going to say, is
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  Speaker 4: that they have every intention of filing an appeal immediately.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a statement from the Speaker of the House, Kayley,
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  Speaker 3: can you bring that to us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Speaker Mike Johnson just releasing the following statement. He says,
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  Speaker 2: quote today is this shameful day in American history? Democrats
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  Speaker 2: cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party
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  Speaker 2: on ridiculous charges predicated on the testimony of a disbarred,
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  Speaker 2: convicted felon. This was purely political exercise, not a legal one.
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  Speaker 2: The House speaker goes on to say, the weaponization of
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  Speaker 2: our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 2: and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will
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  Speaker 2: stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents,
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  Speaker 2: Echoing what we have heard from the former president here.
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  Speaker 3: Again in a couple of moments, Deana, can you speak
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  Speaker 3: to this. We're going to hear about weaponizing the federal
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  Speaker 3: justice system. We have been for months, will continue to
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  Speaker 3: straight through sentencing or maybe the rest of this campaign,
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  Speaker 3: but we're talking about a state level court here. How
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  Speaker 3: do you square that? Before you answer that, Danna, it
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  Speaker 3: looks like we do have the former president coming out now.
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  Speaker 3: We want everyone to hear what he has to say.
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  Speaker 3: Let's listen live to Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 7: Agreed trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupted. It's
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  Speaker 7: a rig trial and disgrace. It wouldn't give us a
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  Speaker 7: venue change. We were at five percent or six percent
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  Speaker 7: in this district, in this area. This was a rigged,
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  Speaker 7: disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to be
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  Speaker 7: November fifth by the people. And they know what here,
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  Speaker 7: and everybody knows what happened here. You have a sore
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  Speaker 7: respect DA and a whole thing. We didn't do a
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  Speaker 7: thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man, and it's okay.
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  Speaker 7: I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting for our constitution.
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  Speaker 7: Our whole country is being rigged right now. This was
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  Speaker 7: done by the Biden administration in order to wound or
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  Speaker 7: hurt an opponent, a political opponent, And I think it's
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  Speaker 7: just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight till
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  Speaker 7: the end and we'll win because our country's gone to hell.
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  Speaker 7: We don't have the same country anymore. We have a
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  Speaker 7: divided mess. We're nation to decline, serious decline. Millions and
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  Speaker 7: millions of people pouring into our country right now from
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  Speaker 7: prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over
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  Speaker 7: our country. We have a country that's in big trouble.
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  Speaker 7: But this was a rigged decision right from day one,
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  Speaker 7: with a conflicted judge. You should have never been allowed
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  Speaker 7: to try this case. Never, and we will fight for
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  Speaker 7: our constitution. This is Lord from over, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Fright or felony counts of falsifying. That was former President
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump speaking outside the courthouse after just being found
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  Speaker 2: guilty on all thirty four felony counts of falsifying business records.
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  Speaker 2: They're maintaining he is innocent, essentially vowing that he will
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  Speaker 2: be appealing this also repeating false claims he has made
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  Speaker 2: consistently over the course of this trial, that the judges corrupt,
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  Speaker 2: that this is rigged, that the Biden administration is to blame.
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  Speaker 2: Those are words he has consistently uses, even if they
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  Speaker 2: are not in fact accurate. We want to turn back
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  Speaker 2: now to Bloomberg's Meghan Scully and Mario Parker for more analysis. So, Meghan,
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  Speaker 2: it was interesting to hear Donald Trump say those words
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  Speaker 2: when we just read from a statement many similar words
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  Speaker 2: in phrasing from the House Speaker Mike Johnson, which goes
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  Speaker 2: to show it is not just Donald Trump that is
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  Speaker 2: singing this tune, but other powerful Republicans in Washington.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, we just got a statement in from the Judiciary chairman.
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  Speaker 6: It's calling this a travesty of justice, and they're just
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  Speaker 6: pouring in one after another talking, really taking on Judge Marshawn,
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  Speaker 6: calling this a rig trial, using language that we've grown
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  Speaker 6: accustomed to Donald Trump using, essentially really putting into question
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  Speaker 6: the justice that happened today and the decision that the
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  Speaker 6: jurors came to. That's a rarity or that was a
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  Speaker 6: rarity in American politics. And this is sort of a
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  Speaker 6: continuation of a long trend here, but really coming to
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  Speaker 6: a culmination today with the responses.
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  Speaker 3: So we just heard from the former president. If you're
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  Speaker 3: just joining us on Bloomberg, this is special coverage with
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  Speaker 3: thirty four guilty counts against the former president in Lower Manhattan.
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  Speaker 3: He spoke very briefly, suggested once again that the trial
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  Speaker 3: was rigged and that the real jury would decide in
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  Speaker 3: November on the outcome of this case. Our reporters inside
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  Speaker 3: the room bring some color, remembering there are no cameras
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  Speaker 3: or microphones inside the courthouse on Center Street. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: bumping fists with his son Eric, looking grim on his
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  Speaker 3: way out of the court before we heard him speak.
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  Speaker 3: Our reporters tell us when they were looking right at him,
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  Speaker 3: he showed no emotion and did not show any reaction.
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  Speaker 3: When the verdict was announced, he stared straight ahead, Mario
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  Speaker 3: Parker is back with us as well, Mario, your take
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  Speaker 3: on this idea of the trial being rigged, The election
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty was rigged, Jack Smith's case rigged, the
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  Speaker 3: documents case in Florida all rigged.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a trend there, right, so that you point
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: out anytime that things don't go Donald Trump's way, this
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: is the card that he usually plays, right. But to
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Megan's point, what you're saying is that the party has
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: essentially adopted that tone and that posture as will, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: they're rallying to his defense. Now again, we would expect
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: against based off of polling, that Republicans will buy and
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  Speaker 5: large stand with him by and large, maybe about twenty
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: five percent may waiver. The problem here for Donald Trump
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  Speaker 5: is going to be that Joe Biden is going to
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  Speaker 5: be labeling him presumptive Republican presidential nominee fell in and
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  Speaker 5: convicted felon Donald Trump, and that'll be message to swing
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  Speaker 5: voters over the next five months and including the timeline
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  Speaker 5: that you all laid out from the convention, the debates
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  Speaker 5: in June twenty seventh as well, just a couple of
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  Speaker 5: weeks before the sentencing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's worth pointing out as well, it's not just
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  Speaker 2: what voters ultimately decide to do, but what donors decide
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  Speaker 2: to do between now and when people actually go to
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  Speaker 2: the polls in November, because there are millions of dollars
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to be raised and spent in a presidential campaign. Mario,
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  Speaker 2: especially considering we got the verdict on the same day
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  Speaker 2: that we had reporting that Bill Ackman maybe getting close
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to backing Trump. He has received in recent weeks, the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: backing of more billionaires who weren't previously in line with him.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: How should we consider the money here and whether or
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: not it perhaps is even going to get thrown at
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: him more so as a result of this conviction.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's what they're banking on, right, That's what the
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Trump camp is banking on. They're banking on the fact
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  Speaker 5: that again we've kind of outlined just that through lines
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  Speaker 5: in between the rhetoric that some of his advocates and
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: surrogates have used the rig for example, So some of
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  Speaker 5: this was baked in, right, the expectation that he very
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  Speaker 5: well could have been convicted of this and yet to
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  Speaker 5: your point, Kayley, I mean, you've had donors who knew,
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  Speaker 5: who are quite aware that today or the verdict could
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: have come in at any time publicly saying that they're
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: going to back him with money as well. So that
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  Speaker 5: kind of shows that, I mean, some of this is
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: baked in, and the Trump campaign is going to continue
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  Speaker 5: to kind of message.
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  Speaker 3: That the congressional reaction I suspect could be pretty loud
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: beyond the statements that are going to be hitting our
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: email boxes for the next twenty four hours. Megan, you
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: mentioned jd Vance a potential investigation into what's motivating Juan Rashon,
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  Speaker 3: But how about beyond that, are we going to be
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: in for another six months of oversight committee hearings? The
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee get involved here, Jim Jordan has to get
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: a piece of this, right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: because if you recall, the impeachment push for President Biden
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: has essentially stalled in the House. So do they try
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: to revive that, do they go back and look at
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: impeaching another cabinet official like they did with Alejandro Amiorkis,
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: the Homeland Security Secretary, And what do they do on
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: the Hill. We are now at a point on the
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Hill where they have switched into campaign mode. So we
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: have tons of legislation coming to the floor that are
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: messaging votes, things that are never going to become law,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: but that are good for their candidates to vote on.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: And I think that there will certainly be some messaging
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: legislation targeted at supporting Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: It also raises the question what Congressional Democrats may do,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: considering this is one criminal case that Donald Trump was
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: dealing with. Three others are stalled. This one has now
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: come to a conclusion, at least for now. The appellate
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: process is something different. Others are stalled, in part because
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: we are awaiting a decision from the Supreme Court on
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the case here in Washington about whether or not Trump
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: has presidential immunity, And a lot of Congressional Democrats have
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: been making a lot of noise about the idea that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas and Alito should be recusing themselves from the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: cases involving Donald Trump in January sixth, does that only
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: intensify now knowing that the Chief Justice John Roberts today
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: said he won't be meeting with Congressional Democrats over this
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: recusal issue.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: I think it does, and we're seeing that come from
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: people like Democrat Jamie Raskin of Maryland, who is a
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: constitutional scholar and oversaw one of the impeachments of Donald Trump,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: talking about ways that they can get Alito and get
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Clarence Thomas to recuse themselves from these January sixth related
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Trump related decisions. And we're going to see a push.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: Whether or not that can that will actually come to
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: fruition remains to be seen because we are in uncharted territory.
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  Speaker 6: This has never happened in the history of our nation
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  Speaker 6: that a former president be convicted on felony charges, let
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: alone a former president who is the presumptive party nominee
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: for the next election. So it's going to be a
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: bumpy time on Capitol Hill with a lot of mudslinging
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: and a lot of new paths being charted.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Rat Bloomberg's Megan Scully and Mario Parker with breaking analysis.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us both in the clutch