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Ken Ham: Climate Change For Kids - And Parents, Too! · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  I'm excited today about today's guests.
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  Now, I have a question for you to start.
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  Is climate change your fault?
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  Is it our fault?
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  Is it the fault of human beings?
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  Are people able to destroy the earth?
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  Well, do not fear because while the world is out there sounding the alarm, authors Ken
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  Hamm and Jessica DeFord are helping Christian families to trust God's word and not fear
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  man.
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  This brother in Christ, Ken Hamm is the founding CEO of Answers and Genesis, the Creation
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  Museum and the Ark Encounter.
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  It has one of the most in-demand speakers in North America.
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  He shares the relevance and authority of the book of Genesis and how compromised on
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  Genesis, particularly 1 through 11, has opened a dangerous door and I'm blessed to have
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  Ken Hamm with us.
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  Welcome to World View Matters.
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  So good to see you, Ken.
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  Hey, thanks David.
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  It's great to be with you and talk about these topics, impact all of us.
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  Yeah, it's good to see you.
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  You told me before we got on, you've got a live view there of the grounds there at the
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  Ark Encounter Creation Museum.
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  Is this a busy season for you, right, all summer?
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  Oh, yes.
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  In fact, thousands of people every day are coming to the Creation Museum and coming to the
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  Ark Encounter.
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  They're the two leading Christian beam detractions in the world and it's just great to see people
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  coming from all over the world and pouring into these facilities and I'm here at my office
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  at the Creation Museum, actually.
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  Praise God.
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  We love the work that you do and we're thankful for you.
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  In light of the media lies and the climate change alarmism and the environmental activism,
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  the talking points get put out there and we rarely hear them refuted very clearly.
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  Well, your new book is going to help families and friends, I want to mention the book.
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  It's called Climate Change for Kids and Parents 2, it's by Ken Ham and Jessica DeFord and
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  you can look that up at answers in Genesis.org in their store and can give us an overview
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  of the book.
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  Obviously, it's about this very important issue and the Bible does have some things to
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  say about nature and climate, right?
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  It certainly does, but David, as we start this, I think it would be good for people to
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  understand, years and years ago, back in the 70s, I started dealing with the creation
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  evolution issue in a big way and I've helped people understand, you know, with the creation
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  evolution battle, it's really a battle to understand the difference between observational
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  science, what you actually observe and then historical science, you'll believe about
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  the past, your interpretations about the past when you weren't there.
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  Historical science is one thing.
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  I mean, that's the science that builds our technology, but when it comes to historical
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  science, that's beliefs about the past.
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  And what people to understand, dealing with climate change, it's exactly the same.
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  It really comes down to a battle between observational science and a battle over historical
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  science.
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  In other words, what you actually observe and then your interpretation is concerning
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  the past.
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  Many people don't realize, for instance, that we've only been measuring carbon dioxide
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  levels for about 70 years.
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  And when they talk about carbon dioxide, they try to make out that this is really bad.
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  Actually, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
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  It's a very important gas.
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  But it only compromises, it only consists of 0.04% of our atmospheric gases.
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  Think about that.
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  It's only 0.04%.
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  So it's a very, very small gas.
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  The main environmental effect from our environmental environment, from gases in the atmosphere, is
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  actually water vapor.
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  That's the main one.
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  And then when it comes to temperature, we've only been measuring temperature.
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  Well, for about 140 years, but actually accurately for only 40 years.
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  Now, what people don't realize is when you look at carbon dioxide, for instance, what
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  the scientists are doing, they then look at tree ring dating and ice core dating, which
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  is based on evolutionary assumptions, going back supposedly hundreds of thousands of years
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  and they look at certain measurements and so on.
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  And then they have these computer models that supposedly predict what's going to be happening.
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  So these computer models are all based on evolutionary assumptions.
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  And if those evolutionary assumptions are not true, they're
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  computer models are certainly not true.
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  And when it comes to carbon dioxide, they say carbon dioxide, because of man, burning
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  fuels and so on in motor cars, etc, because of oil and gas, it's increasing the temperature
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  in the atmosphere.
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  Actually, true observational science shows that when the temperature, the atmosphere
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  increases carbon dioxide levels decrease.
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  And when the temperature decreases carbon dioxide levels increase, so it's totally different
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  to what they're saying.
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  In other words, carbon dioxide levels follow temperature, not the other way around, which
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  is exactly what has actually been observed.
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  There's actually no proof at all human emissions, the driving force for environmental changes
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  or climate changes.
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  There's also psychically things, you know, many people don't even know this, but did
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  you know, we had what was called a medieval warm period between AD 900 and 1300 Vikings
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  were actually farming Greenland and that area today is totally covered in ice.
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  So actually, if we were back to the days of the Vikings, we would actually be able to
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  have more farmland and actually produce more food.
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  And then following that medieval warm period, there was a little ice age from 1300 to 800.
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  Now it was a regional ice age, but you know, in the North Atlantic region, but it was
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  interesting, it coincided with low sun spot activity.
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  So it's now well understood that the sun, the cycles of the sun, there's different cycles,
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  there's an 11 year cycle, there's a 22 year cycle and there's also a long period cycle.
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  And that can have great bearing on our climate.
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  And then there's El Nino and El Nino, as you know, and they're cyclic and they have effects
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  on climate.
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  Look, this is so complex, but it makes you realize there's something else going on here.
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  You know, and what's going on here is the fact that climate change movement is a religion.
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  It's an anti-god religion based on evolutionary assumptions.
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  It's a religion where man believes he will save himself and save the planet.
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  And it's a religion that creates fear.
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  They make out that man is a blight upon the earth.
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  And so now you have this fear of having children and people saying we shouldn't have children.
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  The Bible says, you know, and we've proved from a multiply, the exactly the opposite.
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  There's this fear we're going to destroy the planet.
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  You know, in the 70s, this dates me a little bit, okay.
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  But in the 70s, I was at university and I'd studied environmental science.
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  And at that time, we were told the world's going to be overpopulated, we're going to run
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  out of oil and gas.
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  Actually, back then, we're saying we're going to run out of oil and gas.
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  There was all this fear being created.
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  The ice caps are going to melt, we were told, and there's going to be all this flooding.
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  And you know, none of that actually came to be.
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  It's the same with Al Gore, remember Al Gore produced that, or he was, you know, featured
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  in that documentary in 2006 called Inconvenient Truth, all of his prophecies, he's a false
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  prophet.
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  None of his prophecies came true.
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  His prophesying again today, why should people even believe him?
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  And you see, it's actually the climate change religion is an anti-God religion that's
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  creating fear and it's putting the creation having dominion over man.
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  Yes.
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  Now, the Bible says man has dominion over the creation.
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  And when you have the creation having dominion over man, and then you have all these evolutionary
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  assumptions that go in your interpretation and you produce all these computer models,
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  you're actually going to hurt people because you're going to cause energy to be expensive
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  in countries where they really can't afford high energy prices.
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  And you know, there's a lot of other things too, like the renewable energy that they talk
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  about, you know, these wind generators and so on.
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  But if there's no wind, then you can't generate electricity.
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  And if there's no sun, you won't be able to have, you know, even the solar panels producing
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  electricity, oil and gas is actually a cheap form of electricity and of energy that can
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  be used around the world, it's just so so sad what we see going on because it's actually
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  going to hurt people in underprivileged countries.
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  So, you know, there's a lot, you actually can guess, there's a lot to this.
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  Yes.
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  And in this book, we divide into two sections, we deal with the scientific aspects.
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  And so we're dealing with all the observational science and what they've really found and
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  what they haven't found.
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  And then the second is a biblical worldview in regard to climate change because there's
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  been climate change ever since the flood.
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  So we believe in climate change, but not the climate change they're talking about today
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  from the climate change movement that, you know, man using motorcars and so on is causing
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  this climate change.
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  So there's a little, just a little summary to start off with.
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  Yeah.
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  And that just proves, and all the things that you just shared proves that this is not
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  just for kids.
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  This is for adults too, your book, climate change for kids.
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  And I'm thank you for saying it's a religion.
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  It is the climate cult.
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  You might want to call it as well because they, and they do get the media.
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  They get the mega, the megaphone of the media and they put their talking points out there.
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  People tend to believe what they hear the most and that's why we need books like this.
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  We need information like this.
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  We need the church to start talking about this because from my understanding, the Bible
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  says that man can never destroy the earth.
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  But yet the talking point is, yeah, we are destroying the earth.
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  And also can good point.
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  I think you alluded to Romans chapter one when you were saying that it puts creation and
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  nature above mankind and you put, you put nature over humanity.
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  That's why they're devaluing life and they're putting, they're exulting nature.
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  It is a religion, isn't it?
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  So thank you for pointing that out.
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  Oh, yeah, it is religion.
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  I mean, right back at the very beginning, when God created man, he said and let them
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  have dominion over, you know, the animals, the fish of the sea, the creation.
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  Man has dominion over the creation, which doesn't mean we're to abuse it.
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  See, that's another aspect in the book.
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  We also cover the fact that, hey, man is to use the creation for man's good, but for God's
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  glory.
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  And we're here to be good stewards of the creation.
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  Now a good steward of the creation, by the way, would be making sure that we do light
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  some fires to clear brush in forests because if it builds up too much, it can cause massive
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  fires that are destructive.
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  So control fires are very, very necessary.
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  Not only that, some plants require fires to actually have their seeds germinate.
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  And if you remember, there was a time when in Yellowstone, they said fire is good, and
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  so you just let it go, they didn't control it.
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  And you know, this is what you find in a culture that has a band and God.
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  We see this with even if I can get, maybe it's touching on politics a little bit, but
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  sure.
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  You know, the defund police movement and all the rest of it, a lot of this is based on
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  the belief that man is basically good, and the Bible says man is bad, man is not good.
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  And also you've got this philosophy today that nature, everything natural is good, but
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  everything natural is cursed, and it's under the judgment of God.
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  So therefore they say, oh, a big fire in Yellowstone, fire is natural, that's good, let
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  it go.
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  Whereas we would say, well, there's good, there's places for fire to get rid of brush
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  and so on, but it can also be very destructive in a fallen earth because this is suffering
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  from the poor.
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  So we need to control it and make sure we look after it because we're looking after
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  this creation.
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  So you see, it's, it's their evolutionary views of who man is, who we are, where we came
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  from, that affects their worldview and affects their worldview in every area.
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  And people need to understand again, I just can't say this enough.
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  The modern climate change movement is a religion that worships man and worships the
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  creation and basically sees man as a blight upon the earth because they let the creation
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  have dominion over man.
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  And so they get it all wrong and so the whole world would view as wrong, their interpretation
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  of the evidence is wrong and it's going to have bad consequences for us.
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  And just like you said, you know, in the media, the, you know, it's, it's the climate
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  change activist, this anti-god religion, they get, they get all the media publicity, but
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  you know, it's been the same with the whole creation evolution issue.
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  Creationists don't get good coverage in the media, but evolution is pushed and assumed
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  and people are brainwashed to believe it's true.
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  So it's the same sort of thing that that's going on here.
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  So Ken, first of all, I want to point out the book again, friends, as that answers in
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  Genesis, climate change for kids and parents too quickly, want to shout out to our sponsors
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  So Ken, some, it's not just Al Gore, I mean, others, even, quote, respected scientists
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  have made these predictions like their earth will be destroyed in a few years, but you
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  said something very important and this goes back to the religious aspect.
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  Their false prophets, they're wrong and decade after decade, they're wrong, but people
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  still believe them.
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  How can we refute this or how can we respond to this?
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  Well, you know, again, it comes down to how do we respond to all the evolutionary indoctrination
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  through the media and so on.
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  And we just have to do our best to get the answers out there and, you know, to help people
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  understand the true nature of this battle, that it's a worldview battle at a foundational,
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  at a foundational level, it's really a battle between God's word and man's word.
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  It's whether you build your thinking on God's word or build your thinking on man's word.
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  Of course, that's what it's all about.
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  It is a spiritual battle.
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  You know, when you understand that it's a spiritual battle, you realize you're just not
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  going to convince everyone, you know, we go out there and preach the gospel.
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  It doesn't mean everyone's going to respond to that.
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  There are people that hate Christianity, that hate God and so on.
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  So you're going to get the same responses in regard to this.
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  We just have to be faithful and get the message out.
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  But one of the things that we should be doing as parents is making sure that we
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  are teaching our own children.
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  That's why we did this book, so that parents can teach themselves and teach their own
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  children the truth here and then teach them how to have a true biblical worldview.
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  You know, in the book, I'm going to have one here, right, while I'm talking to you.
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  And as I opened this up here to page 58 and 59, I've got a section on biblical
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  climate ages.
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  And so, you know, here at the Creation Museum, we walk people through Genesis to revelation
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  and we were dividing into seven sections.
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  We call it the seven Seas of history, creation, corruption, catastrophe, confusion.
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  That's Genesis 1 to 11 Christ cross consummation.
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  And then I have a book on the seven ages of dinosaurs, one on the seven so-called races.
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  There's anyone biological race of man, but seven races like the perfect race, the fallen race and so on.
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  And so I did this also for climate change.
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  And so for this climate book, we have the seven climate ages.
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  So there's the perfect climate age that was before sin.
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  Then the groaning climate age, well, that's because of sin, everything changes.
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  The flooding climate change, well, the flood cause massive climate change, which we're
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  still seeing the consequences of today, then you have the icy climate change.
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  Well, the flood generated an ice age and the ice age change climate.
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  And we're still in the receding phases of the ice age.
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  And that's another reason why we see climate change, which is then the shifting climate age.
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  That's our age today.
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  You're never going to stop hurricanes or tornadoes in this or floods in this fallen world.
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  I mean, there's always been droughts in a fallen world, particularly since the flood.
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  We've always seen droughts.
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  A Bible even talks about there were times of massive droughts, right?
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  And so having a drought is nothing new and when people say, but we've never had, you know,
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  all these, these houses destroyed by tornadoes before or we've never had all of these
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  houses destroyed their floods.
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  Well, you never had as many people before either, you know, when you go back to
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  about 1,000 BC, when you go back to 1,000 BC, they say there are 50 million people.
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  There's 8 billion people today.
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  So, and then I talk about the fiery climate age.
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  Well, that's going to be a big change in climate when God judges the earth by fire.
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  And you better be ready for that one and put your faith in trust in the Lord Jesus.
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  Then there's a heavenly climate age when those of us who trust in Christ will live with him forever.
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  And, you know, you read about the heavenly climate age and revelation where there
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  will be no more death and no more suffering and there will be no more droughts and no more floods
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  or anything like that because it'll be back to perfection once again, like it was before sin.
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  So, you know, we need to have a true world view, biblical world view built on the Bible.
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  And so when people say to me, do you believe in climate change?
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  I say, I sure do believe in climate change.
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  There's been climate change ever since the flood.
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  Yeah, and you said something before you alluded to actually Genesis 822.
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  Yes.
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  Because, you know, we've got today this doomsday clock where they say we're going to destroy
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  the earth within seven to ten years.
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  If we keep going the way we are, well, that's absurd.
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  That's nonsense.
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  We can come right out and say it's nonsense because God said to Noah in Genesis 822 after
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  the flood.
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  He said, while the earth remains, right, scene time and harvest, cold and heat, summer
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  and winter, day and night will not cease.
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  Man is not going to destroy the earth.
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  The doomsday clock is just not true.
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  And again, it's meant to create fear and you know, David, it all comes back to people
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  who want control, people who want power.
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  You know, when John Kerry, he's another false prophet, when John Kerry came back from the
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  world economic forum and this was a year or so ago, he said this, there's an elite group
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  of people that are going to save mankind and going to save the planet.
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  In other words, there he is saying, man is his own savior, man is his own God.
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  And there's an elite group of people who are going to control everything so that we
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  can control you.
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  I mean, that's really what it's all about.
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  Yeah.
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  And earlier when you alluded to, you know, they're them thinking we're going to be destroying
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  the earth.
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  Well, they haven't read obviously the Bible so they don't know about second Peter three
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  things.
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  We're going to heat up, but it's going to be God that's going to heat things up.
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  Ken, one thing I want to ask you about, we're running out of time so quickly, you say that
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  you believe as Genesis one implies there was one major continent before the flood.
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  I find that to be fascinating and not a lot of people are aware of this, the part of
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  the processes of the global flood, what happened to the one continent?
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  Well, yeah, it's now, here's what's interesting.
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  Did you know that creationists were writing about this before evolutionists ever talked
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  about the idea of continental drift?
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  You know, we, as creationists, as Christians talk about continental sprint, whereas the
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  evolutionists talk about continental drift.
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  In other words, when they get hold of anything, they slow it right down, you know, over millions
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  of years.
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  But when you read Genesis chapter one, it says on day four of, sorry, day three of creation,
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  he says that he gathered the waters together into one place.
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  So presumably the land was in one place, and we believe there was one major continent
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  before the flood.
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  And then because of the processes of the flood towards the end of the flood, that continent
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  split up to produce the continents that we have today, but it happened catastrophically.
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  And we do see movement of continents today.
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  We would say that's residual movement.
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  You know, if you get, say, a book on a table and you push it, it'll move very fast and
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  then it slows down.
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  We're in the slowing down phases of that continental break up.
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  And see, it's interesting how atheists mock us for saying, oh, you were saying all the
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  animal kinds got on Noah's Ark, well, how did the kangaroos get to Noah's Ark, you
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  know?
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  We assume Noah's Ark was in the Middle East, but we've got to remember something.
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  It landed in the Middle East, what we call the Middle East after the flood.
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  But before the flood, you know, we don't know where Noah's Ark was or where the Garden
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  of Eden was, because the whole world's been destroyed by the flood.
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  So we wouldn't have a clue.
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  It's all different.
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  And we believe that continents split up.
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  So before the flood, wherever Noah's Ark was, we believe there was one continent.
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  So God could easily bring the kangaroo kind to Noah's Ark, right?
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  And then it split up at the end of the flood and then the Ark lands in what we call the
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  Middle East and then animals migrate around the world.
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  And because of climate change, particularly during the ice age, there would have been lower
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  ocean levels and that would have enabled animals to be distributed in various places.
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  In other words, they could move over land bridges and so on to various places that they
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  couldn't move to today because now the water levels have risen.
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  So again, when you start with God's Word and the history he's revealed to us, you have
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  a whole different worldview and you can explain the things that we see today.
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  So your co-author, Jessica, mentions the ever-changing processes are all a part of God creating
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  an orderly earth and universe that we can actually study and learn about, obviously
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  in Scripture and man would say, no, we're causing all the change.
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  So there's a big, very, very big debate going on when it comes to this.
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  So this is a very important book for this time, Ken, because they're not going to stop
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  their agenda, their talking points and we need to be informed, especially in the church,
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  knowing the Bible and understanding these issues.
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  Climate change for kids, two minutes for final words, Ken Ham.
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  Well, you know, the climate change movement, again, really this is just another symptom
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  of man in his rebellion against God.
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  That's really what's happening here.
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  And when you read Romans 1, what happens when man worships the creator, worships the creation,
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  sorry, instead of the creator?
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  He turns them over to foolish things and he turns them over to perverse ways and we see,
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  you know, it even goes on to talk about, you know, the sexual revolution, the homosexual
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  revolution, which we're seeing, but it turns man over to foolishness.
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  And a lot of what's being said in regard to the climate change agenda by the climate
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  change movement, it is foolishness.
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  It's foolishness that will hurt mankind and hurt, underprivileged people in other countries.
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  So people need to get the truth on this.
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  I mean, once you read this and you realize they don't have the data, it's all interpreted
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  based on evolutionary assumptions.
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  Once they understand that they realize how much they've been brainwashed and how much
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  they're being manipulated.
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  And what we're really saying is, hey, when you believe God's word, that's when you understand
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  the truth and then you can understand it correctly.
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  Amen.
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  This is such an important issue and that's why parents need to read this book.
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  It's climate change for kids, but families need to understand this very important topic
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  from a biblical perspective.
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  We appreciate your ministry and all the great work you've done through the decades.
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  Can answers in Genesis.org.
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  We really are thankful for your time today, sir.
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  God bless you and continued success with the Ark and Counter and Creation Museum.
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  Thank you.
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  Thanks a lot David.
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  All right.
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  Lord willing, we will talk to Ken again in the near future, hopefully on another book,
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  and great getaway for the summer if you guys are thinking about, if you've never been
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  to the Ark and Counter and Creation Museum, you definitely a place that the family would
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  enjoy and learn a lot.
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  So God bless you, friends.
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  Until next time, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.