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#702 - 6AM Talks Sports Card Collecting, Influencers in the Hobby & Ripping a $600 Box · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We got a special guest in here. My guy, 6AM
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  Speaker 1: is back.
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  Speaker 2: What's the deal?
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  Speaker 1: See you previewing a lot of new music. Is this
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  Speaker 1: your first album that's coming out? Your first 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: solo project?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was, I was like halfway through a
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  Speaker 2: project before. Yeah. And then I just, I, um, I
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  Speaker 2: figured out what syncing was.
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  Speaker 1: So like getting like shows, like show music or movies
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  Speaker 1: and all that.
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  Speaker 2: So like commercial music. At the time I was going
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  Speaker 2: to put out the first album, like I got hit
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  Speaker 2: up by, uh, a company for syncing, right? Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: they offer me enough to make me question releasing the
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  Speaker 2: first album and to give the songs to them instead.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So, like, if a syncing company hits you up, you
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  Speaker 1: essentially are selling them your music?
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  Speaker 2: No. Well, that's what they try to do.
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  Speaker 1: But you get publishing still?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. Okay, so, like, we split 50-50 everything on the...
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  Speaker 2: sync side so whatever like sync brings in.
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  Speaker 1: Right like if your song gets on an HBO show
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  Speaker 1: or something it's right down the middle.
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  Speaker 2: But I still own the masters and everything else is
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  Speaker 2: 85 15 my way.
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  Speaker 1: Do they is it like the trade off like they
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  Speaker 1: get the choice on when the music comes.
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  Speaker 2: Out yes it is so that kind of put my
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  Speaker 2: first album on hold a little bit because you know
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to get like licensing deals for songs and
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  Speaker 2: all that but It actually ended up being a blessing
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  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, I kind of
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  Speaker 2: got more comfortable with who I am as an artist
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  Speaker 2: now compared to how I was back then. So I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm by far doing the best music I've
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  Speaker 2: ever done.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever listen to your On Some Bullshit era
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  Speaker 1: of music and be like... Oh, that's crazy. Because you're
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  Speaker 1: in a group.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of people remember that.
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  Speaker 1: OSBS.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, OSBS with Feezy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever listen to that music and be like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I've come a long way?
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  Speaker 2: Um, I don't listen to it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally different.
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  Speaker 2: No, like, I don't really listen to it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Feezy doesn't listen to it either, but there'll be other people.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to him. He just, like, didn't he just
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  Speaker 1: crack the LAPD for, like, a lawsuit?
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  Speaker 2: Like, 10 million.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, Jesus. Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: He's, like, up in the hills in fucking Japan somewhere. Dude, fucking.
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  Speaker 1: As he should be. Meditating. Shit, I'll let the cops
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  Speaker 1: fuck me up. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro.
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  Speaker 1: That beat the fuck out of me, dog.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, fuck rap.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Put me on life support.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess I'll go solo now.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, bro, it's like, so like, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm happy that the album did
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  Speaker 2: not come out because I'm more comfortable with who I
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  Speaker 2: am as an artist now.
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  Speaker 1: You feel like this music best represents kind of like
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  Speaker 1: where you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Be as an artist. 100%.
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  Speaker 1: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just that, but I feel like the quality
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  Speaker 2: of the music is way better. These aren't just like
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  Speaker 2: microwave songs. We're not just like putting in a prompt.
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  Speaker 2: It has never been like that, but what I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: is we're not just fucking putting in a prompt like
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  Speaker 2: these songs each take like weeks to do like we're
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  Speaker 2: fucking engineering every sound like right bro quad and my
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  Speaker 2: uh uh engineer uh herbal will literally have me redo
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  Speaker 2: a verse or a hook fucking 200 times like just
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  Speaker 2: nope that's not it nope that's not it like bro
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  Speaker 2: because that's what it takes.
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  Speaker 1: To really do so are you releasing this independently yeah
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  Speaker 1: yep 100 um Because obviously you're Taylor gang affiliated.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I chose to just release this project independently
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  Speaker 2: on the advice from Waze and everybody else was kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, bro, you have everything that you need yourself
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  Speaker 2: just to put it out now. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't know, bro. The card game's been really
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  Speaker 2: good to me, bro. Every fucking dollar I've made from music, You.
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  Speaker 1: Put it in the cards?
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  Speaker 2: Every single dollar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so for people who don't know, you have a
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  Speaker 1: serious sports card collection.
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  Speaker 2: Well, bro, I started when I was six, maybe, or
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  Speaker 2: like seven, like that.
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  Speaker 1: Is it safe to say you got... Because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I started seeing you post more when Herbert was
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  Speaker 1: coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Was Herbert the guy that pulled you back in?
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  Speaker 2: It was really Lamar Jackson, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: When I was in... I was in prison like 2016 when, when, uh,
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  Speaker 2: when Lamar was in, uh, in college. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, bro, I've never seen anything like this before. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how can I invest in him? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: So then I kind of started to ask about it
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  Speaker 2: and like, get like, I was like, if Lamar is
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  Speaker 2: a stock, I want to buy stock in Lamar. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So, so when I came home,
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  Speaker 2: I signed a big, you signed the empire. Yeah. but
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  Speaker 2: I was just like doing the rapper shit. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I didn't really know like what
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  Speaker 2: to do, but I knew I wanted to do, do
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  Speaker 2: something involving like cards and like investing in sports. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And then, uh, Kobe died. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I feel like I have
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  Speaker 2: a whole, uh, a bunch of like, uh, Kobe rookie.
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  Speaker 2: So I went to look through all my stuff and
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  Speaker 2: I found like 15 of them. Wow. Like in like
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  Speaker 2: perfect condition, got them graded. And then I like, sold
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch to, like, get, like, the initial startup capital, right? Right.
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  Speaker 2: Then after that, I'm like, damn, like, now what can
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  Speaker 2: I take this money and put it into? And I
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  Speaker 2: made a couple horrible decisions. I bought, like, Lonzo Ball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he shot, like, 38% from the free throw line his, like,
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  Speaker 2: rookie year, and my shit just crashed out. And then
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  Speaker 2: I made a couple other bad decisions. I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: who it was. But I remember I was just buying, like,
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  Speaker 2: dumb shit at the time. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Just, like, putting money behind the wrong guys.
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  Speaker 2: Putting money, just trying to, like.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Figure it out. And then, like.
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  Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball's a bad... I mean, he's kind of retired now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, bro. Like, it was a horrible investment.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously injuries fucked his shit up.
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  Speaker 2: No, exactly, but.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is. That's why some people say
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  Speaker 1: Pokemon don't get injured.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There it is right there. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really into Pokemon like that because with, like, a
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  Speaker 2: modern Pokemon, there's, like, a cap. You can't pull, like, a.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know anything about that shit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's... Well, you can't pull like a one-on-one million
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  Speaker 2: dollar card in that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You got to buy the vintage boxes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Like there's a cap to modern stuff, like five,
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  Speaker 2: 10K maybe. Like I'm not in it for that. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? So when I was trying to
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  Speaker 2: look for things to put my capital into, I obviously
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  Speaker 2: made some horrible decisions at first. I had a choice
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  Speaker 2: between Mahomes and Alonzo Ball, and I chose Alonzo Ball.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So not everybody is, damn.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who says, oh, I've always been right in cards,
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  Speaker 2: they're a liar. It's not true. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: So after that, I think around 2019 when I was,
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  Speaker 2: or no, it was 2022, I was trying to drop
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  Speaker 2: my first album, which I had named Zombieland at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then I got hit up by a company that's run
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  Speaker 2: by Hans Zimmer and his team.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And they wanted to buy.
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  Speaker 1: The sync guys?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they wanted to basically buy the rights to negotiate
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  Speaker 2: for some of the songs. So they gave me, like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, like, 40K, and I gave, like,
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  Speaker 2: 10 to... to Feezy and then 10 to my manager.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, bro, I'm going to take this
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  Speaker 2: 20 and just buy, buy Shohei cards. And I just
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  Speaker 2: bought hella Shohei cards in 2022. Yeah. 2022.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good time.
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  Speaker 2: They were cheap, bro. And, but I knew I was like,
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  Speaker 1: Pitch and hit. Was this, this before he was on
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers, right?
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  Speaker 2: Way before he was on the Dodgers. So that's when
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the interview. So what's the most
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  Speaker 1: expensive card that you've sold? Like what's the biggest lick
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  Speaker 1: you've hit?
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it like that, but like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the biggest one, but this,
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  Speaker 2: this last week I just sold a card for 40 K.
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  Speaker 2: I paid eight K for it.
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  Speaker 1: What was the timeframe?
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  Speaker 2: A year and a half. And I sold it to
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  Speaker 2: him over there, but I paid eight K and he, uh, Shohei.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: So a Shohei card. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I paid eight K from, uh, uh, Burbank cards
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  Speaker 2: in like.
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  Speaker 1: 2022, 2023.
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  Speaker 2: And you sold it for $ 40. $ 40, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So are you buying stuff like.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not the biggest one, but that's like this
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  Speaker 2: past week probably the biggest one in the last week
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  Speaker 2: or two, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a.
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  Speaker 2: Those cards I paid like $ 5 for that I sold
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  Speaker 2: for like $ 2, 000. You know what I mean? Like, it's insane, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a crazy game. Like, Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's a chance that the card market crashes?
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: There's a chance of anything.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it always... Has peaks
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  Speaker 2: and valleys. It's always going to correct itself. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? And when you're buying rare assets, you
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: do kind of control the... a market if it's rare enough,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like, I mean, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened with COVID was like during COVID, like
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  Speaker 1: watches and cards and shit and like just like tangible.
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  Speaker 2: And it had that boom, then it went back down.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a lot of tangible items that like
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: they're a finite amount of.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, like at the end of the day, like
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: NFTs are cool and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: No, that shit was always gay.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Always gay as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: But people want stuff they can put their hands on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFT shit. I've never, ever bought into that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't either. I'm not trying to go too
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  Speaker 2: hard on everybody.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're fucking idiots. Shout out to everybody who bought NFT.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of rappers leading people on, scamming people
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: with the NFT coins. It's fucked up, bro.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man, this is the way I look at it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if you're stupid enough to get scammed, sometimes
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: when people get scammed, I just feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're an artist. Yeah, but as an artist, though.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's fucked up if you're an artist.
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  Speaker 2: When you're being scammed by your favorite artist that you
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: look up to, it's different, bro. There has to be
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: some type of level of moral.
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  Speaker 1: Accountability within the artist. No, you gotta have what you
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: won't do for money.
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  Speaker 2: No, but at the same time, that's like, It's.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Like when you see these random DMs coming from your
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: favorite rappers that are like, yo, you're dope, let's work.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: You know who, yeah. You know who, but.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, why is this guy DMing every single
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: rapper I know from Phoenix?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane, right? Like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah,
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: but it's like, bro, that goes back to the moral
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  Speaker 2: responsibility you have as an artist. It's like, it's like
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: people claiming a song is theirs and it's not. It's AI. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, like, if
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  Speaker 2: you're an artist, you shouldn't be out here, like, scamming
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  Speaker 2: people and, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's insane. Yeah, I think, well, let's talk about, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a little bit more about the
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  Speaker 1: card game before we get into your AI conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I'm not even trying to get into that, bro.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I just, just accidentally all the time, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Um, On the card side, how do you kind of
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: see hip hop and the card game being related? Because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you'll see a lot of celebrities, now
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  Speaker 1: they're starting to get into it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's always been... People that know about
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  Speaker 2: appreciating and depreciating assets have always been into the card game.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen had one of the craziest card collections of
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  Speaker 2: all time, and he made... And millions off it. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Damn.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: If you look it up, you'll trip the fuck out.
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  Speaker 2: Did he smoke at all? No. I think he sold
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  Speaker 2: most of it.
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  Speaker 1: Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: But he has like fucking 52 mantles. Like Steve Aoki's
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: got crazy collection. Yeah. He has that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: But Charlie Sheen's a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit above that. He's been doing it a long time.
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  Speaker 2: He's not just getting in in 2018 or something like that. Yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: If you had shit back in the day, forget about it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people have always had, like, the foresight
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: to be able to see ahead. But, like, rap is such, like,
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  Speaker 2: a get the money and, like, blow it, like, industry
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  Speaker 2: that people aren't really tapped into, like, appreciating assets.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Well, and also, like, having a card at home in
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the safe is not sexy.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the same as having, like, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So people will be like, man, I'd rather buy a chain.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Uh but it's it's it's interesting so for you you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: i know you have like certain players you collect yeah
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: are you stressed out about your herbert collection um that's.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: The one player that like i collect for me because
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: i like herbert you know what i mean i don't
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: have like a crazy amount of him i probably got
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: like didn't you have did you have 5k or something
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: that's not that that's not too crazy like it was
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: a lot more.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's who's your main guy is it shohei.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Long term, it's like Otani, but I also really like
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: LeBron right now. I'm not a huge LeBron fan.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like somehow LeBron's still undervalued. He is. He is.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Bro, I just bought a LeBron rookie auto for $ 16. 5 million,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: maybe like a month ago. Yeah. In the same car
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I just bought, just sold for $ 32, 000. So it's almost
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: like 100% double up in a month, which is absolutely insane.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially if he gets a ring this year. And, like,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: when he retires.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: It's really, like, the timing of everything. Right. Just like
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you said. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Artie.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Like, if they win this year, Tyrese and Max. I
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: like Maxie. I think Maxie's going to be there.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I love Maxie.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: He's so fire, bro. I love Maxie.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: He's really undervalued, too, as well.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And if somehow Embiid can pull through a season.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: If he can play, like, 20 games, dude. Just at
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the end. Wow.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: If they win a ring? Because I feel like no
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: one's buying Embiid cards. No.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to be insane.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: His rookie cards are so trash, too.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Just imagine you're a person that has invested in Embiid,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and he gets hurt again and again and again. So
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: eventually the people at the top of the card market
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: are going to be like, hey, let me relax on
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: this guy a little bit because I've lost money like
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: four times.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Do you think Zion and Ja Moran are good buys
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: because they're so low right now? Oh, God. Because so
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: many people ate shit on those cards.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I love them. I love Ja and I love I.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Feel like Ja could have I mean he's got the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: best Nike.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: No I don't think so bro like I think the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: only good buys in sports are the top 1%.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Of players of all time like you like Mahomes yes Tom.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Brady exactly Tom Brady LeBron Michael Jordan Kobe Messi Kobe
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: all the way you know what I mean like it
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: has a lot to do with how like people like
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: view you as an icon overall too you know like
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan cards are shit. Even though he's one of
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the best players of all time, he's so fucking boring.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But they're popping now, right?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: A little bit, but not what they should be.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: You know whose cards I think are going to end
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: up having a big Shaq-type jump is Barkley.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe, because he's such a big personality. He's relevant still.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Former MVP.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: He also didn't win any championships.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: True.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: But I feel like AI's cards just had a jump. Yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: but when you're looking for something super long-term, you really.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Do want to... Maybe not long-term.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: On the best players ever, you know what I mean?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Because it's kind of like this instead of.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to buy and hold. Yeah, exactly.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say anything is a smart buy except those.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Everything else is a risk.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Everything's a gamble.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Everything's a risk, man. Right now, I just got super...
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lucky on uh jose de paula i've.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Been reaching this for like a year yeah i bought
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: so much i've spent like 30 grand on that dude's cards.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Oh dude you're a smart man right i mean we'll
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: see i mean the market's through the roof right how
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: much are you.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Up right now i don't know i haven't even i
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: haven't if you had to guess oh i just sold
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the card though i doubled the money that i sold
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that red that red uh first edition uh out of
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: five I sold that for double what I bought.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: So you're up almost 100% value-wise, though.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Just on that card, yeah. Shout-out to the Japanese, bro.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I pulled up at some sketchy-ass place in East Hollywood.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It looked sketchy. It was called, like, The Vault or
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: some shit.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Cold Hard Cash, huh?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And it was some Japanese bro who, like, was from
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Orange County. And so I meet him upstairs, and he's, like,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a Pokemon guy. He's got all this, like, iced-out fucking
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Chrome Hearts on and shit.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, right?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And then he's showing me his collection. He just spent
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: 400 grand on an Otani. And he's telling me he
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: just got into sports. Dude.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: He just got into sports and spent 400 grand on
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: an Otani.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I see him open his PSA, or his card ladder,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and it says his collection value is worth like $ 2 million.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, who the fuck is this guy?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I was going to show you mine.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, yo, dawg, I'm going
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to shoot you all the cards I got. Because he's like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I like this guy. like i think he's gonna be
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: really good you know like yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Bro he is though bro like he's bro he's he's.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Him bro not for sure i hope so yeah he's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: awesome bro that's literally all the cards i own are
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: his no not that's not true i have a he's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: such a good hitter.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane but if he can just get his
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: uh fielding defense up to just like an okay.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Bro yeah because there's a lot of average.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Ass top 10 best player in the league.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Well there's a lot of average ass defenders that yeah
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: exactly are win win mvps he just needs to get.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: To that level you know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I mean like where he's not just a liability yeah
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: exactly can't be a liability can't be a liability.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Like many ramirez a little bit of a liability but
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: he right but he had such swag right he was
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: just many so at the end of the day it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: didn't matter that's Kind of how I look at DePaulo.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: But he seems like he's a hard worker. He's going
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to keep on trying. You know what I mean?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: All right, man. Shout out to our family at Cal Shee.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: We're back on Cal Shee with my pick of the week.
• 20:44
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• 20:52
  Speaker 1: this week, man, week five NFL, I think the Bengals
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: are going to absolutely destroy the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: are probably the worst team in the league. The Bengals
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: are coming off of a tough loss. They're 2-2. They
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: probably should be 3-1, maybe even 4-0. So I like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the Bengals. Now, if you want to take the Bengals
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: straight up to win, they're trading at 76% right now.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That means a yes contract for them to beat the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Dolphins is at 77 cents a contract. But I do
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like when you scroll down a little, you can hit
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that spread in total. I like it if you move
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it down to 6.5 points. That means that the Bengals
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: have to win the game. by seven for you to win.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's at 56%. I like that, man.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: 56%.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that's my pick of the week. Bengals to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: win by six and a half or more at 56%
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: on Kalshi. I love it. I think they're going to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: destroy the Miami Dolphins. I think Joe Burrell's going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: have a big game. Chase Brown's going to get in
• 21:53
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• 21:55
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• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in the bio. Let's get back to the podcast. So explain,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: so what did you go to prison for?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, shit, dude.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, you love- Well, you brought it up. You said
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you were in prison.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but I do. I went to prison for-
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Armed robbery on a weed dealer that I found out
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: was a child molester. Oh, shit.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So you robbed him.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, at the time, it seemed like morally correct.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, definitely.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I saw it as like a no harm, no foul
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: type situation. Then like the next day he called me
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and was like, bro, I'm about to call the police.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and tell them what? He literally called the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: police and told them that I... stole his weed like
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I robbed him for weed.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: That's crazy so you end up getting out signing with
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Big U uh huh what was the journey like working
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with Big U obviously shout out to Big U man.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Shout out Big U man shout out Hunk man.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Um but I feel like I feel like depending on
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like which version of Big U you know cause like
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I've known Big U for 14 years yeah He was
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: always so cool. Never did no weirdo shit. Like, never. Like,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: could have easily.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Bro, come on, bro.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Bro, like, the narrative that, like, he was, like, checking
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: people or, like, bro, I'm like.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It's so, bro, it's so untrue and, like, such a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: stretch of the truth, bro.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: What's, like, if he wanted to, like, dude, I was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: on the radio in L.A. If there was anybody he
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to, like. press he had artists that like he
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he i never got a single ounce or smidget of
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like weird energy nothing ever ever it was always like
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: hey just hit me if you're like you know obviously
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: he was just.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah bro it's a fucking it's a super unfortunate situation
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: when like.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: It is for sure and then obviously with a scapegoat
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: or some shit you know what i mean like and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: then you know i was cool with his son who
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: passed away you know yeah um some legendary molly mall
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: nights for.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Sure the rest in peace you man yeah Did.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You ever end up... Were you ever hanging at Molly
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Mall's crib in the Valley? I had a lot of
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: nights there. When it was the Crib Castle?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I had a lot of nights at Molly Mall's crib.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It was the Crib Castle for a while.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know about all that.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Dude, when I was coming from... When I first started
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: at Real 92.3, I was only doing weekends, so I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: would drive from Phoenix out here, and that's where I'd
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: sleep every weekend. It was the Crib Castle.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: How the fuck did you sleep there?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: On a couch. Oh, God. On like some old red,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like vintage.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: With all that. Oh yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was a lot.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It was the Versace couch, bro. Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And then I'd get there and this will be like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, I've known mall for since like 2000
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: because I used to live in Vegas. So any old
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: mall is the kind of guy, by.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The way, free, free Molly mall, free mall too.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's my guy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I forgot that they just got Molly. He's the kind
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of guy you're like, God damn. Literally free mall again, man.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You just like give you the keys to his like
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Bentley and be like, here man, just take it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Just take it, bro. Whatever.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, our first, like, six music videos
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: ever for OSBS were, like, at his house.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of artists could say the same thing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: That pool in the back.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He had, like, the Scarface house in Encino.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, bro. Yeah. He was awesome. He had
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the Chef E.L. down there.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The Vegas house was crazy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Chef E.L. down there, just.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Cooking up 24-7, bro. That was awesome.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest misconception about you, though?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Now that we kind of, like... I feel like people
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: have kind of.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Trying to see a little bit. Yeah. Um... I don't know, man.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people think that the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: music that we're doing right now is AI. I don't
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: know how. I'm like, bro, I've been so anti-AI and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: firm on my stance the whole time. I think it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: just because of the quality of the production and all that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like you had a moment where I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: felt like you initially liked the Phoenix Flexing song.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I did, but then I heard it like two or
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: three times, and I was like, hold on. This is
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: not real. Like, I don't know what it was initially,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: but I think you know what it was? He has
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a lisp, and every word in that sound was pronounced perfectly.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Like, bro, like.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I stutter, bro. I can't get through a whole paragraph
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: without it. He has a list, bro.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think him doubling down on it not being
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: AI hurt him as opposed to if he had just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: came out immediately?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, fuck yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: If he would have been like, yeah, this.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: That goes to the morally responsible thing, bro. You can't
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: fucking mislead the fans when you're in a position for
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: people to either... look up to you or, like, kids and, like,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: not everything in, like, life can be a troll. Right.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, bro, like, I don't know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: That shit's demonic to me. I don't really like the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: AI shit at all. I feel like there's, like, a certain... Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I think when it comes to art, it's... There's, like,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a frequency in it, bro. Like, there's, like, a certain, like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: frequency that they try to tap into and it's just
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I just think when it comes to, like, art, right? It's, like...
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: You have to separate, like, I feel like you can't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: fight AI in terms of like eventually everyone's lives are
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: going to have some sort of AI involved. It's kind
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of like the internet. But the art side. You have
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to separate art. It's like, hey, man.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: You can't do that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And my thing is if you're going to do the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: AI thing, because I like the Phoenix Flexes song. Be
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: honest about it. I was the first person to play
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it on the radio. Be honest about it, bro.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Be like, this is AI.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like if you're going to do it,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: just embrace it. Like you do the Soulja Boy thing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I was the first motherfucker to take an AI record.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Do AI and go crazy? Yeah, I would respect that more.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It's just, I don't know, bro.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: It just rubs me the wrong way when me and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: other artists can spend two weeks on one song and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: making sure every sound is right.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: It sucks too because it's funny because Alexis, my artist,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: we have a whole 80s album that's been done for
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: two years.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: That's sick. I've heard it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got Tory Lanez on it. Everybody's on this
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: fucking album.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It's sick as fuck.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Wiz is on it. Everybody's on it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, bro, I need to get on that thing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: No, but it's funny because I feel like the Phoenix
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: moment combined with Tyga doing it in a really corny way.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really bad.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, ugh. Because for a sec there, we
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, this might be the time to drop
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: this album because maybe this is a wave. But now
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the wave feels like, I don't know.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like at the end of the day.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: But if you could do it live and sing it
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: live and it's real, like, you know, like.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It has to, like, separate itself.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Like, our shit was literally all live instrumentation with Austin
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Sexton and shit.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: He's awesome, bro.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So it's just, like, I think it's funny because it's, like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I think that Tyga's shit didn't help.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: No, it didn't at all.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Because no one's listening to that shit.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And it's like, dog, why? Like, why? I think it got, like, a.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I think it got, like, a... 0.0 on Pitchfork.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like... I've never seen that. It's like... I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's bad, man. Shout out to Tory. Tory's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: really the guy who like did that shit for real. No, absolutely.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: What year was that? Like 2020?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: 2019?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Still relevant. too. What he did was Alone at
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Prom?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Still relevant, too.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Great album.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Still hits. Bro, I hear people playing that album all
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So good. Literally, still to this day. So when is
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: your album coming out?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I think right now we're probably looking at early November
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, that's pretty soon.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: No name for it yet. You know what I mean?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The album's completely done. The last part is literally just
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to name it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: That's fire.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Would you have Phoenix Flexin on there? I saw him comment, man.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I saw him drop the comment.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he'd do that. I mean.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: What if he came and he wanted to give you
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a Shoreline-style verse?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: he wants to do that at all.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: What about Playboy Cardi? Fuck Cardi.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Fuck Cardi. His day is still, bro.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So what did you bring here? Because you're a card guy.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I brought this up for you, bro. What is this?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It's like a $ 600 box, bro. Three cards. $ 600, bro.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a wrestling box. Three cards. Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Did you get this from Burbank Sports Cards?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did, bro.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Shout out to our... I just was on their podcast.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I shouted you out on that podcast.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Ryan, bro.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I shouted you out. Jordan. The other Ryan.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Gangsta Ryan.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that place is crazy.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Bro, they're actually probably the dopest people in the card business.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: You got a fucking knife or something? Or a key?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Dopest people in the whole card business, for sure.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: The Rob dude is super cool.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I love him, bro.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: They're awesome. They call him the card father?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awesome, bro.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just did this podcast with him.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of cool card shops in fucking LA, bro.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Box Breaks, Mania.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: You also have... Don't you have some Marvel cards? Oh, bro.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Because the Marvel shit is kind of lit, too. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the Disney shit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Crazy shit, bro.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Like, imagine if you had a... What's this?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Spider-Man. Case hit right there, right?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Isn't this for sale? Didn't you post this for sale
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: for like six grand?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: 6K, yep.
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• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I just posted it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So what makes this... When someone says case hit, what's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that mean?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So like a case hit is like a super rare,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like an.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Insert, right? So this is a case.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So there's... Yeah, there's like usually like one per case, right?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And it's like a super rare... insert and like a
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: case is like usually 12 to eight, uh, uh, hobby boxes.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You can get like one super rare case hit per case.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And this is the Spider-Man and Venom one. It's like
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: 6,000 now. Wow. Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: What's the craziest card you brought in this box years?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: This isn't much bro. Like I would say these two
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: DePaul is right here. And this one, I just, uh,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: It got from my mom. This is actually Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: first Topps Super Fracture.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: One of one Super Fracture.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I bought it raw, and then I graded it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: It came back a 10.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: This is my favorite player right now, bro, in sports.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: That's DePaulo, though.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yes. I have this card, but then a 9.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's worth about 10 to 12K, and this one's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: worth about 15 right there.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: That's an orange. The orange refractor.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: He's like the next Dodgers superstar, though.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Is there a superfractor to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: this card?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: You got it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I've heard that the person that has it wanted $ 120K
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: for it, and that was before he got called up.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So he probably wants, what?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: He's fucking tripping.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: $ 250K now or something like that?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: He wants like $ 200K. 200-something?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: That fool's tripping.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: He is tripping.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: No, he's crazy.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: 400, though? 100, if you think about it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I probably would have bought it. All right, so we're
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: going to go through these. This is three WWE cards.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Panini.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: There's only three in here.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Just three, baby.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Ooh! We're coming out hot.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: What's that? Timeless Moments?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know who this is.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Is that a fucking Timeless Moments?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: This is a Caden Carter. I'm not going to lie.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck that is.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the fuck that is either, bro.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: All right, so we're all for one right now.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Caden Carter, we apologize.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: She's probably not on the roster anymore. All right, let's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: go to the next one. Hold on, hold on. Brooks Jensen,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: no fucking clue.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: No fucking idea.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck is this guy?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: NXT.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I could wrestle him, bro. What the fuck, dude? NXT,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: what the fuck?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a rough one. Okay, so right now we're
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: 0 for 2.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Come on, baby. Come on, baby, let's heat up.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. A Cody Rhodes.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's sick as fuck.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's out of 75. I think this is.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: That's pretty sick.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's an auto with... Is this the map?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Something, right?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yo, so when it comes to the... This is like a.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So these.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you, like these cards, right? You
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get them graded? You wouldn't get it graded?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Well, it looks fucked up on the back. Look at
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the back.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: See the corner? Oh, fuck. Yeah, no. Hell no. Hell no, bro.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: It looks like.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It's like warped.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It looks like somebody fucking ran this over, bro, with
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the car. You can actually send this to Panini and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: they'll actually replace it because it's in such horrible condition.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Who the fuck are these people?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They're fucking... Brooks Jensen. Irrelevant.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Brooks Jensen, dude.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Panini fucked this up.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: He's a prospect that fell from grace.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: No, he's terrible. Awesome, dude.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Fuck you.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we got a Cody.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: That's sick.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: American Nightmare.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: That works. Cody Rhodes, right? That's sick.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: These are coasters.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Send that to Panini, exactly.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: How do you... So you just send this back?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: You probably got to, like, fill out a form and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: then be like, hey, I got this out of a box.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I have it on.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: On camera.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: On camera, sealed box, horrible condition.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Terrible condition.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And they'll fucking replace it, bro.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: There it is, man. Well, listen, your album's coming out
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in November, hopefully.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully, bro.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: No name yet.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: No name yet, baby.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Are you going to be doing anything else cool in
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the card space, you think? I'm actually.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Thinking about opening up, like, a physical store.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: You don't do the shows where you sit down with, like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a table and.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I always... Do you sell stuff? Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: but I usually try to, like, buy at shows. You
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Are you ever... Like, listen, obviously, you're a street guy.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: What the fuck are you about to say right now?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: How sketchy is it going to these shows? I'd be
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: afraid I'm finna get robbed out here, bro.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I thought you were just finna say something else right now. Bro, honestly...
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It's like L.A.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Is like the hit-lit capital. It's not.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Honestly, when I first got into this space, I hope
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that this information doesn't hit the wrong ears, but I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: was at first like, damn, like there's people just walking
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: around with little boxes like this, like 100K, 200K. I'm like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I was like, some of my homies,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: if they knew that, they'd be sitting outside right now.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But like at the same time,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of people being like, robbed in
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: like in like the collector space but if you got
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a box with 100k or 200k worth of stuff you
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: can afford to hire a security for a couple hours
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to sit at the show with you and ride home
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: with you after you know i mean 100 or it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: also on the shows also to make sure that if
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they're if they're if they're have like 200 uh tables
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: in a show and they're selling each table for 200
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: bucks a piece they're probably gonna make dude an insane amount.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, these fools,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: because in my head, I'm like, I know I would
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: be thinking if I was fucking 20 years ago, I'd
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm hanging out outside of fucking.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It's just also just like, just like awareness. There's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: lot of people in the collector space that aren't necessarily
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: like aware or like.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Well, there's like fake cards now, right?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that, bro.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw like fake slabs and.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, you got to be super careful.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a... Bro, it's so easy to.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: It's such a mainstream... theme because Tops and Michael Rubin
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: just came in the game and completely changed everything. They
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: really brought it to the forefront of everything.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Didn't they take all the big licenses too?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they took everything from everybody.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: So Panini is just non-licensed shit?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: They have WWE, WNBA, soccer.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And college.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: But Topps has.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Everything.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Baseball, football, and basketball.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Who's got hockey?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: That's Upper Deck. And they also have Michael Jordan, so
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: they'll forever be alive.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Wait, Upper Deck's got Michael Jordan?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, still.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It means that he's on a contract with Upper Deck
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: where he can only sign for them. So he can't
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: be in Topps products or Panini. They can't even use
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: the image of him on anything.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: So how does that make sense if they can't even
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: put out basketball cards? They just fucking put out a
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: fucking pack of Jordan cards?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: It's like him in like a suit usually or something crazy.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Does it like get dumped in a hockey pack?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Golf cards it could be in or just like normal,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: just like upper deck.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Upper deck used to crack, fool.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: They have Michael Jordan. Well, they had Jordan and LeBron
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: for a while. They're the only people that had like
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Jordan and LeBron.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And then LeBron like just went with Topps. but they
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: had Jordan and LeBron, so they would have a random-ass
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: product called Upper Deck Goodwin or something, and they would
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: have just Tiger Woods cards or Michael Jordan or LeBron,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: but they are obviously super hard to hit, but that
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: was the whole force behind their product. They didn't even
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: need the license. They just needed them.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Which basketball player, if you could invest in a newer
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: player right now?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I hate to even say this. My head says... I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: win Benyana, but my heart says Luka Doncic, though.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like Luka could win the MVP.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: He just lost his girl, bro. He's looking fit.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: He's serious.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So what is this card? This is a Luka.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Purple Prism out of 75. I bought this for my
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: baby mama as her push present. It's like $ 8, 000, $ 9, 000.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So what is it worth now?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: It's still worth $ 8, 000, $ 9, 000. It wasn't that long ago.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Because his cards are kind of downish, right?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: They're not too down, but they're just a little flat thing.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: They're not really going up and down too much. He
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: has to win MVP or win a.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: What about Giannis? You think Giannis is a little underpriced
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: right now? Absolutely.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: But he's a big man, and people don't really like...
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: He's awesome. He's probably one of the best of all time.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: What about Brunton? Overpriced because of the ring?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I would wait a year or two.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: To invest in Jalen Brunson. If you're like a crazy
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Knicks fan, I think it's probably at the highest right now. Yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Luka. Invest in the Slovenian. Bro, look.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Have you seen him, bro?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: He's fucking slim as fuck, dude. He's the great white.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: It's a whole fucking Lakers. It's just a fucking pack
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: of whites. They got an all-time white as their coach.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: We gotta do something about that. We gotta do something
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they could do. They got Walker Kessler.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: The rest of the team has to be like the.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They just got to go sign Ja Morant.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: No, bro. Ja in LA? Come on, bro. He going
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: He'll be a rolling 60. Bro, don't say that. You
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: guys will fucking jump him in.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Before you know it, that motherfucker's going to be running
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: around with fucking Yankees and Mariners hats. What happened with
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Ja Morant? It'll be like the Chris Brown thing. You
• 42:37
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• 42:39
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• 42:41
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• 42:43
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• 42:45
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• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Anyway, appreciate you pulling up, man. 6 a.m., my dog.
• 42:48
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