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• Bathurst Sunday daily: Hello and welcome to the Sunday edition of our Bathus 1000 daily podcast. My name is Andrew Van Leuren, and this evening I'm joined by Speed Cafe's managing editor, Stefan Bartholomey, and Speed Cafe's news editor, Simon Chapman. Boys, that was a heck of a day at the racetrack, or at least it turned into a heck of a day at the racetrack. I want to start with a question to both of you. Was that a good Bathurne or not a good Bathurne? it's going to be pretty hard to talk it down. After the drama we s saw at the end. I I guess it depends on which camp you're sitting in as to whether it was a good one or a bad. Well whether you got sick of it and turned it off at lap a hundred and fifty or whatever. Well that's that's a harsh read. But it did for so long feel like surely, surely something is gonna happen, surely there's gonna be a a late twist in this deal. And we kinda got two, right? The Brody Kastecki break change drama and then obviously Anton running out of fuel on the last line. Mm. What's your answer to this, Son? Yeah, I think I think it is a a good bathist, maybe not a great bathist. I think you know, that last year was off its head from about lap sixty when the rain fell and and that's I think one of the all time greats. This probably isn't an all time great in terms of the spectacle across the entire duration of the race, but certainly the finish will be will be one that's not forgotten about any time soon. Yeah, it will be one of the most remembered bathis. I do understand that, yes. Just like if you think about Two thousand and seven, there wasn't a lot of action for most of the day, but then everyone remembers the rain and the chaos at the end. Yeah. It's just another one of those where it just delivered right at the death. Yeah, well, to very quickly recap what happened in case you didn't see it, although if you listen to this podcast, I would assume that you would have. The middle portion of the race. It looked like it was theirs to lose, and then it looked like they lost it with a very slow brake pattern rotor change that put the Anton Di Pasquale car in control, or at least that's what it looked like. But Team 18 made a miscalculation on fuel unnecessarily. We will go into all of this in a bit more detail in a moment. That car ran out of fuel at the end. Brody Kastechi sweeps through to win the race. Devastation at Team 18. Elation at Dick Johnson racing, like just yeah, it was it was incredible in those closing laps. It was, and the fact that those two garages are next to each other in the pit lane just made it all the more extraordinary to be in the paddock after the race. We both went into team eighteen not too long after the finish. Yeah. And man, the air was heavy in there at Bathurst because of fans streaming into the pit lane to get to the podium. The teams all pull the doors down straight away. So it was also kind of a dark setting as well. And yeah, we came across Charlie Schwerkholt and he just had no words for us. Yeah. I mean he was he was good to us that he didn't kick us out basically, but he just couldn't couldn't speak. He was pro trying to process what had just happened. Yeah, no, he was yeah, he did. You know, we asked him if he wanted to speak on the record about it. That's our job, that's what we need to do. And he was very respectful in the way he took. quite a few minutes to sort of mull over whether he felt he could come up with some words to say and then kind of said to us, you know, in an in one of those nice human moments that you do have in this job, like I just can't I can't do it. I just I can't do it. Yeah, it was just utter devastation. Yeah everywhere. There was people in tears in there when when when we got there. Yeah. And obviously Anton and Lee Holdsworth both spoke briefly on the broadcast. Obviously as professionals, that's the sort of stuff They do. but yeah, clearly hit them really hard and it was it was good to see quite a few people from rival teams come and just offer their commiserations, whether they be other drivers or engineers, mechanics, whatever. The pit lane obviously everyone knows everybody pretty well. And like obviously there's a lot of history between Dick Johnson racing and teammate and Dick Johnson said to me afterwards that you you feel for anyone in that situation. Yeah, I mean, another off the record conversation that we had in the immediate aftermath was with Lee Holdsworth and he was gutted as well. But, you know, we all know Lee is one of the great people that's been involved in the sport in the last however long. And he was saying that th his devastation was as much, if not more, for Anton than it was for himself. Obviously he has won the Bathus one thousand before, but that's just a real Lee Holdsworth approach to something, isn't it? Yeah. And Adrian Burgess was good enough to after a period of time sort of debriefing, I guess, with Charlie to come out and front the the various media that had assembled. And he wasn't really mincing his words either. He w they were owning it, but he was talking a lot as well about how much they'd done right through through the day and how they need to sort of put their arms around each other as they debrief it. But man, it's it's a massive error. And they did have this sort of fuel miscalculation only three years ago at this race with both cars, but obviously the the stakes weren't quite as high as they were today. What do you think, Simon? Was it the was it the cruelest heartbreak at Bathur to have that happen in the last line? Ever? I I'm not sure. I know, there are there are l a long list of of Bathurst heartbreaks, but I think, you know, for team eighteen And we can get into some of of those previous examples. But for team eighteen, this one's gonna sting, I think, particularly because like last year when David Reynolds was a contender for the race, he came into the picture really late because of circumstance around what was happening ahead of him with the weather and everything, and then all of a sudden it was like, gosh, like team eighteen are actually a factor for this basically on the on the last lap. Whereas this one it really felt like team eighteen had done everything right. You know, we like let's not shy away from the fact that we spoke about in the build-up to this that teammate haven't put together a performance together at Bathurst and this looked like it was going to be their best opportunity. It's their first proper opportunity. there's so many firsts attached to that. You know, obviously the fact that they've been appointed the the GM homologation team this year. Anton Di Pasquale was looking like he was going to get his first win. Charlie Schwerkot was looking like he was going to get his first win. So, you know, there's a it's just it's heartbreaking because of all of those things. It's not just one driver losing the race like you know, Glenn Seaton for for example, back in the day. You know, there's there's so many people who walk out of that garage and go, like, geez, that was my first proper opportunity. And they earned it. Like they did absolutely everything right until the last hurdle. So you think that's more devastating than Glenn Seaton not winning the race? I don't know. I think like history when you look back at Glenn Seaton, I think it's probably amplified because he never won it again. You know, like there's he had a lot of chances to win that race over his over the course of his career and he's remembered because he didn't win that over the duration of his career. I don't know, it's obviously quite, you know, recency bias is a is a big thing as well. So It's tough. I don't know. I I c I'm not sure at this point, but it it's up there. It's definitely up there. You you know, if you're gonna start looking at like listicles and things and stories that you write in the in the future, it's you know, top three. What do you what else do you sort of add to the list? Stefan, you're the you're the historian among us here. What's what is what's your thoughts? Again, we are speaking directly in the aftermath of this one. But yeah, if you think of a couple of others, the Glen Seaton ninety five example. That was a valve spring broke with nine laps to go. And the valve springs, the manufacturer had started using material from a different source because of the earthquake in Kobay in Japan. That's not something that Glenn Seaton or his race team really had any control over. Yep. And the whole context of that also was Peter Jackson was leaving. there's massive uncertainty of the over the future of the team. those anniversaries built around it as well. And he and his old man were sort of going in their own directions afterwards as well. So there was a lot bigger story to it there. another one, Dick Johnson hitting the rock in nineteen eighty one. Sorry, nineteen eighty, which then put his whole future of car racing in question. those things are incredibly unfortunate. This one, they messed up. Yeah. Like that's the Cold hard reality of that. Yeah. and yeah, they've they're living with it pretty, pretty tough at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. As we saw firsthand when we went down to that garage, because you're right, they were scenes quite different to anything I've seen in a garage after any car race, whether it be Bathurst or Championship Deciders or whatever. There was yeah, it was there was a lot of emotion down there, next door, as you say, very different emotion. where do we place this? It's very easy to say that. You know, the the seventeen got lucky to some extent, but it got unlucky before it got lucky because there were parts of that race where it did seem like that car was gonna win anyway. So it's also hard to label it as any sort of undeserving victory, right? For sure, it's very well deserved. I mean, Todd Hazelwood did an incredible job early on. he sort of bited his time there behind Aaron Seaton in the first stint. But then in his double stint later on, he sort of pulled a gap on the field and kind of set the race up for them. And obviously when they did have that break drama, Brody had said after the race that Tom Moore was good in sort of calming him down and keeping him focused because it's very easy to sort of have compounding mistakes in that scenario. And they ended up just hanging out long before the last stop, which meant they had good tires at the end. Yep. And it just had that Brody Kastecki. Blood in the water. Just he was the battles and overtakes there with Will Brown and Zach Bates. Yeah, he didn't luck into this win. That was they put themselves again in in the right spot. Yeah, there's all these kind of different ways that race could have gone. Like team eighteen had the margin to actually put enough fuel in the car and then they win the race. If there wasn't that late late safety car when Chaz Mostett crashed, then perhaps it's Zach Bates and Aaron Seaton that win the race when the Deep Pasqually car does run out of fuel. Like it's it's it's yeah. It's just a classic Bathist what if sort of storyline or storylines. Yeah, and I think that probably makes it even more egregious when you look at what happened to team eighteen, the fact that they had a safety car, an opportunity for Anton to back off the pace and save a bit of fuel and he and he still still didn't make it. You know, like You sort of have to wonder how how short they were if that race had had gone green and ATB well sorry, Adrian Burgess did say that they knew pretty early on that they were in big strife. It just the thing that is perplexing to me is that like the broadcast figured it out pretty early. They sort of Not early enough. Yeah. Adrian did did say, well, I knew long before any of you guys did. But there was I think it was fifteen seconds difference between Zach Bates' pit stop and Anton's pit stop. And Anton I think came out with about like it was close to two digits in terms of the lead that he had over Zach Bates. And it was like, Well, you've got so much of a cushion. Why why wouldn't you use some of that just to give you that little bit of protection? Even if there is a a fuel miscalculation. Just have you've got such a safety buffer, just leave the the fuel tune in for just a little bit longer. Yeah, they they just messed up. I mean, I feel like all year team eighteen's been quite aggressive on strategy. So I wasn't surprised when they plucked that car out from behind Zach Bates and decided to yeah, to do the undercut basically. But clearly they've just messed up a number. They've not carried the one or they've not done something. Yeah. and and they messed it up. I think there is more to learn in the coming days about how it unfolded because yeah, Larco was pressing ATB in the broadcast with fifteen to go. about fuel and he brushed it off. And then it was with 10 to go that Andrew Donnelly s started asking Anton to save me a bit of fuel, but we should be okay. and then Adrian said this evening that yeah by the time the safety car came out with five to go they knew they were in big, big trouble and that a safety car probably wasn't even going to save them. Yeah. But in that scenario, certainly I don't blame them for keeping Anton on track rather than pitting him until I totally get an eighteenth or something. That's just well that's what I that's what I what Adrian said. It's like if anything from second backwards doesn't matter. You gotta roll the dice. Although then you look at the fact that yeah, as soon as it went green, Anton just went, yeah. Like he pulled a nice gap. And it would have been hard to save fuel and keep those guys behind, obviously. But yeah, it wasn't till till right at the death where It was obvious they were done. Yeah. great day for Zach Bates and Aaron Seaton and MSR. Where did the other go? The LeBrock Jones go? The fourth. And it locked Jack LeBron into the final. Yeah, which which is fantastic. I was actually having a chat with with someone at MSR afterwards and th they were kind of feeling a little weird about it because on paper, like what an absolutely incredible day. But When there is that ultimate universe where you could have won the race, it you're always going to feel a little bit flat about not doing so. But, you know, we spoke a lot on the pod last night about whether that car would really be in contention despite starting from pole position, maybe some question marks on the outright speed of Aaron Seaton and all that sort of stuff. But both of those drivers did a fantastic job. Like Aaron did fantastic to win the start and lead that first stint. really held his own out there across the day. And then Zach brought it home really well. Like they they did a fantastic job. And again, we talked about the question marks around Zach's future and all that sort of stuff. And it's just I can't wrap my head around the idea that that kid's not going to be on the grid next year after what he's done this weekend. Yeah, it was it was interesting to hear them speak afterwards because clearly there is some mixed emotions. There is that bit of a what if because of what happened to Anton, that if Zach could have held out Brody, they they win the race. Or obviously if they don't get that safety car, Zach probably would have cruised it home. But I do hope that when they those blacks put their heads on the pillow tonight, they are satisfied with the job that they did. As you say, Aaron Seaton, we can't back over it enough. That was just sublime. There was so many questions externally about whether he would start that car under the pressure of pole position. But that did kind of ignore the fact that he'd done a couple of wild cards. It's true. You made this point as we were watching the first stint of the race and it's a fantastic point. Yeah, but just to to execute in that moment, to not make a single mistake through any of his stints. Like that's the whole point of Aaron because obviously he'd he'd sort of come up the ranks and he'd done super two for a couple of seasons, hadn't really got the results he needed. was just doing some G D four stuff, which he's still doing with Jason Gomasor. But the this program last year to go into an MSR wildcard, it was all about trying to establish himself as a regular co driver to be part of this great race going forward. And man, he's he's ticked that box today. And yeah, that story around having three generations of Seton, having been on the podium and lead laps at this race, that's just really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I I feel like this is a quintessential example of a driver who spends their career going, Geez, if I just have the equipment, I can deliver. I and it felt like that was true for Zach today as well. You know, one of those one of those very rare occasions where all the stars align, the car you've got just feels amazing and and it does everything that you want it to do. And and like you said, Aaron really dictated the opening first sort of stanza of of the race really controlled things from the outset. It would have been interesting to see how Todd would have approached it if it if he'd got the whole shot into turn one, whether he would have walked away with it. But I think, yeah, obviously the turning point it felt like was probably just after that that first safety car sequence when I think DJR undercut MSR and that felt like the the moment where the momentum swung to to DJR and they just got that little bit of a leg up to to get ahead of those boys. And that first sequence and then obviously they had the the break dramas that sort of flipped things back in the other direction. So but yeah, for those boys, gosh, what a what a big thing for for their career in terms of solidifying their place in the grid. Like like you say, surely, surely Zach is back next year and surely Matt Stone are looking at Asito and going, Yeah, we we need you to come back next year. Yeah, just to emphasize the point on Aaron Seaton, part of the reason there were so many questions around him starting was the fact that he was last in the in the co-driver practice. But when you actually look at it, he was doing a long run, like literally practicing for what he had to do in the race. And yeah, to finish the point on Zach, I I think he will be on the grid. There's just a negotiation going on about how much the Bates family has to bring financially to the seat or whether in fact He's actually now probably done enough to be a fully paid professional racing car driver. I made the quip yesterday that a pay driver got pole position for the Bathers 1000. Well, hopefully yeah, they flipped the script on that. Yeah. Now coming into the weekend, Simon, you made the very bold prediction that Erebus would be unstoppable. Didn't didn't quite play out that way. I mean, certainly not a a terrible day, particularly for the 99 car, but probably a bit underwhelming in terms of where our our expectations built to. as the kind of weekend played out because that car in particular was very fast. Mm. Yeah, they sh they showed a lot of pace, I think, over the course of the weekend and I was pretty firm going into the shootout that I thought Cooper would would stitch some something together. ultimately didn't get pole position, but was in a good spot for the start of the race. I think he started from fourth. and they kinda just were there. They didn't really stand out at any point during the race. I think They were one of the teams that had their co driver run quite a few laps, so they sort of went a little bit off piece in terms of their strategy. So Lockie Dalton was spending sort of the back half of of that race fighting with the the primaries like Jaden O'Jada and a few others and and unfortunately, you know, that's that can just be the difference, in terms of the result when it comes down to the to the end of things. So yeah. They were just there, I guess. They didn't really stand out in the race too much. Yeah, probably or one of the visibly tougher stints of the day was, you know, Job Stewart as a primary going up against a lot of co drivers at the start of the day and not really making the progress that you expect to see from a primary. Starting that far back in the field. Yeah, well I guess my take out from the first part of the race was that the Camaro speed advantage on the straights wasn't quite as pronounced as what we probably expected. Yep. That it wasn't a case of Chevy drivers simply walking past past other blokes in a straight line because from what we'd seen in practice it looked like they should just paint a line down the middle of the road and say Camaro's to the right, everyone else to the left. Thanks very much. But it was More competitive than that. Yeah, I mean Scott Pot was talking a lot on the radio about the fact that he felt he couldn't he was chasing Cooper Ma sorry, he was chasing Lockie Dalton in that first stint and talking about how he just couldn't get a run down Conrad. But he was towards the front of the field. And when you are towards the front of the field, not everything is just about engine power. You're racing fast race cars that are getting off corners well. So it's not necessarily representative of of where they were at and then we saw Kai Allen making good progress. Yeah. In a Mustang. So I mean it was possible. I'm not saying it was even in Australia. But it's it's one thing for a f Mustang not to be able to pass a Kamara, but it's another thing for yeah, the Kamaras also not easily towing up on Mustangs. It's interesting actually that that opening stanza of the race, the that Kai did make a bit of headway. and you know, we don't have in intimate knowledge on in terms of the set ups that some of these guys were running. But like the the amount of tire deck that some of the cars were having was pretty crazy. So you know when you're when you're blowing the rears off these things coming out of the corners, you're just you're not gonna have some of that straight line. It was interesting to see such a massive divergence between the fortunes of car eighteen and then car twenty. Absolutely. you know, so yeah Yeah, that being the Dave Reynolds James Courtney car. Yeah. So you You say we don't have an intimate knowledge of the setup of these cars, but we can say for sure these blokes would run a lot of rear campus. The way they were yeah. They were wearing that inside shoulder. And actually I had this conversation with Kevin Fitzsimmons from Dunlop on Thursday or Friday where he just said, These blokes, this happens year after year. They don't seem to learn, not one team in particular. Yeah, yeah. And of course we should stress that, yeah, this was many, many teams. But I think one thing we see now too is because the the cars aren't very adjustable. and when you have a green race, they don't necessarily want to lose time in a stop with a with a lengthy change. Mm-hmm. that th some teams I think were waiting for a safety car to to tune the car up to to help the rear tire and it just wasn't coming. So a few things that we probably wouldn't have predicted coming into this weekend would be that the car eighty eight. The Tickford cars and the Walkenshore cars would just be almost anonymous if it wasn't for Chaz throwing it in the fence at the end there. Yeah, I mean with it was interesting just to see a release come through from Red Bull Ampole Racing because I didn't get down to Triple Eight after the race, but there's quotes from three drivers and nothing from Brock. So yeah, I I don't have any answers for for why that car all weekend was off the pace. Yeah, well at least something went triple A's way today. Obviously Will Brown and Scott Pye were second place finishers and won the Enduro Cup as well. and they they weren't actually going to win the Enduro Cup until Anton had that that issue right at the end there because when Brody passed Will quite late in the piece, that basically flipped the script on the Enduro Cup and yeah, it would have been And Don Di Pasquale who got that. there was some good obviously, you know, as I kind of flagged there, the the Toyotas weren't fast at any point of the weekend. I think Andre Heimgartner and Bryce Fulward dragged like an eighth or something out of that. Exactly. so that was the highlight for for Toyota, which would be pretty disappointing for their first Bathis 1000, I think. But if there is any good news for the walking tree outfit, it is that Ryan Wood Did qualify for finals, so they've got two cars in the finals. as you said before, Stefan Jack LeBrock also qualified for the finals, so that puts a bit of a bow on the ten drivers that we'll see battle it out for the title over the the next three rounds. One sort of question I've got here. I mean, we know that the first two editions of Gen 3 Bathus 1000s were not great. Last year's race was shaping up to be an absolute triple eight Camaro. Cakewalk until the rain came along and turned it into an amazing race. And today's race was it had some strategic intrigue to it, but again had at two separate points settled into what looked like a reasonably foregone conclusion before we had all that late drama. Do we still need to be a little concerned about the Gen 3 platform and the Bathis 1000 and turning on good racing? Maybe. I feel like I enjoyed a lot of today's race as a genuine endurance race and just watching it play out whether you say it's like a test match or or whatever, just just letting it breathe slowly. Yeah. but also expecting that it would have a crescendo because yes, it would have been considered a bit flat if we didn't have the late drama. But I feel like race control's not helping helping us out here either. How does Macaulay Jones have that massive shunt in the cutting? have to do a three hundred point turn to get back going. And there's no safety car. I could not believe that. Nah. Nah, particularly at that point of the track. And with the car facing like sitting sideways across the track at times. Yeah, I was I was also surprised that Yeah, it was it was semi frightening, especially what with what we saw at the Bath Twelve hour earlier this year. Yeah. It also felt like they took maybe a little bit long to put the safety car up for Chaz's crash too, 'cause you there aren't many small crashes down at Forest Ellbow and it kinda felt like, okay, are we gonna leave that car there and just do local yellows and then it was cl th I think they're pretty close to the start line, start finish line when they did throw the safety car out there and kudos to them. They got the car out of the way pretty quickly to give us a little bit of a a dash to the to the check it flag. It was weird because we saw in Darwin David Reynolds go off and it went safety car immediately. He actually drove out of that situation, but it was explained at the time that this is how they're gonna handle things these days because of what had happened at the twelve hour. But something must have changed. Very true. Well, it has ticked over 10 PM here in Bathurst. Is there anything else? Grove Racing getting a free pass from you on I was about to say, is there anything else you would like to talk about? So Stefan, there clearly is the war is yours. Well, clearly they just made too many mistakes today. And Brendan Grove was pretty forthright on the broadcast with that. Obviously, Matt Payne had a couple of early issues, including that. that Najee had with David Reynolds on the straight. Or James James Courtney was in the car, was he, at the time? Or it was a long time ago. I think that was with with Davy and and that was the second that was the second issue that they had as well. He also nearly put Jaden O Jada into the on the front stretch as well. Yep. Had him doing mungees down the down the front straight which was which was pretty spectacular from Juice. So did we agree with the no penalty on the O Jada contact and the penalty on the Reynolds contact? I think they'd Yeah, I think so. I think they were both incidents where a five second wouldn't be an outrageous outcome. But a no penalty wouldn't be an outrageous outcome either. Yeah, it was it was avoidable contact, I think. and that's usually grounds for penalty or at least a warning. But yeah, for whatever reason, they acted pretty swiftly on that. I thought it was also interesting that Will Brown in his pretty fierce battling with Brody Kastecki got a very swift warning from the the stewards for a bit of I think it might have been some reactionary blocking between those two. I think it was the sideswiping him on the strait, coming up Mountain Strait. But yeah, I think he got the bad sportsmanship flag. It came over the race management channel by the time they got the cutting. So that was the world's quickest best sportsmanship flag if that's what it was for. but just back to Groves Brenton Grove was also pretty strong on slamming the brake pad supplier on the broadcast, but then it turned out that the Kai Allen car actually had a brake duct issue which yeah hampered their day and it had a genuine failure towards the end, didn't it? Yeah, there was I think literally fire coming out of the the right front corner. I guess for Brenton, he's not wrong in some aspects though, right? Because that that brake issue has been a a problem for a wee while now and you know we talk about Rock Feeney being pretty anonymous today, like he was talking about how his pedal was soft and basically had no confidence. And Martin Short was saying, Well, do you do you need to bring it in? Do we need to change it? And the teams it was pretty drastic, some of the measures that they were taking today. And normally we only have to do one break pad and rotor change in though. Most teams were doing two. Yeah, nearly decided the race there, obviously, with with the Brody one. But I guess just the other thing to finish up. overall thoughts on the event. I mean they announced a two hundred and four thousand crowd, which is in the top five all time and the biggest in eight years and it it felt genuinely busy. Yeah, it did absolutely. No, I think it was a it was a a really good event. I I think there was a really good vibe in town and on the ground, as we just both said, it really felt busy from Thursday onwards. Probably one of our better gauges for how busy it is is where you can get a car park than it was from Thursday onwards, like it was it was hard to get anywhere near the gate. So that's generally a a pretty a pretty good sign. We did watch the first end of the race from up the top of the mountain and it it felt like felt like a great bath is one thousand. Yeah. To be honest. It it'll be interesting to know whether the uptick in attendance was because of the Peter Brock commemorations or whether there is something attached to sort of the the final series and maybe a bit of added meaning to to this race. I thought that a lot of the activations that they did around the twentieth anniversary were were quite good. A lot of a lot of really good quality historic cars on display and activations in town and at the track. So it did like the whole event itself had a a bit of a different feel to it. Yeah, I think they had an uptick in twenty sixteen when it was ten years. They had a the all time record crowd was that twenty twelve when they went big on the fiftieth year element too. So I think the heritage it's what it's all about, right? Just the history of this thing. Obviously great weather. It was just a spectacular place to be. And it's good to sorry, not sorry to interrupt, but it's good to know that some of the issues around the travel to and from the circuit hasn't deterred people either because that was absolutely that was a massive talking point. for months leading up to this race that there was going to be traffic chaos. And, you know, for most Sydney siders, you know, they're not going to travel west more than an hour most days. So to yeah, still get an uptick in attendance, even with that massive tear up, is pretty, pretty good. It's a great point, but I do fear what we're going to be driving into tomorrow. I know exactly what you're about to say because yeah, I'm not necessarily looking forward to to dealing with that. Tomorrow, but that is tomorrow's problem. All right, are we now done, Stefan? May I close out the podcast? Can I ask before that, where was the jet fly over the space? No, I yes. That was the only thing missing for me. Good point. That was the that's I I really enjoyed that. So last year was the first year that you and I, Stefan, watched the the start from the corporate suite from our fantastic commercial partners, Coates. And one of the cool things was when the jet flew over the front straight and you're almost looking down on it from the top of the hill. And we'd kinda talk that up to our friend Simon over here, who came up with us this year. And we let him down. we didn't. Someone did. It was pretty cool though seeing the broadcast chopper just flying past us. That's cool, isn't it? That is so good. I was I was watching that going, Yeah, this is pretty sick and I think I caught Barche at one point watching me, watching the helicopters and having a little giggle to himself. All right, Simon's getting cheeky, so let's let's wrap this up. Bachie is Stefan's nickname, just for some context around the words he just said. All right, that is definitely time to close this out. We are done. Thank you so much. Actually, firstly, thank you so much to to you two and and to Jack and and Megan and everyone else that really the Bathis Week is a big week, so I don't want to be too self serving here, but it's a massive week. I feel like our you guys did a fantastic job of all the coverage. So thank you so much for your hard work and the long hours and all that sort of stuff. Thanks to everyone who was listening to these pods, clicking on our stories, engaging with our social media content, everyone that came to the lot the full credit live show on the Wednesday night, which feels like it was about five years ago now, but that was that was pretty awesome as well. There'll be plenty more of the washout from the race on speakafa.com tomorrow, and full credit to the noise, we'll be back in this podcast feed on Tuesday morning.