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The Hospice Hustlers w/ Matt Apodaca (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation? Is your girl. Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 2: older episodes from the Scam Goddess bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 2: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 2: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall
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  Speaker 2: and as always, stay scheming, scat.
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  Speaker 3: Rob fro.
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  Speaker 1: Scam come.
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  Speaker 3: Right from Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: What's popping Congregation? It's a no year right, no year,
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  Speaker 1: no me, no we I'm playing. We're gonna do the
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  Speaker 1: same damn thing. Y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Scam Goddess podcast, the podcast all about fraud
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  Speaker 3: robbery those who practice it. Maybe we love him, maybe
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  Speaker 3: we hate him. Let's hop on this Friday sea together
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  Speaker 3: and all of you who have been with me through
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  Speaker 3: thick and thin over the years, you know I'm very
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  Speaker 3: yes excited. We have a friend on the show, which
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  Speaker 3: y'all know tends to get messy. Friend friend on the show. Today,
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  Speaker 3: we have the amazing writer and comedian. He's a UCB
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  Speaker 3: alum along with yours. Truly, we actually were on some
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  Speaker 3: teams at the Cult together. His hosts and produces the
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  Speaker 3: podcast Get Played Congregation, Please welcome Matt Appadaca to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, can I just say I just love your whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I love your whole thing. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: You've been in the podcast game much longer than I have.
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  Speaker 3: You were just saying before we sat down that.
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  Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a long time, and now
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  Speaker 1: we're here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's right. I think it is safe to say
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  Speaker 4: we met in the year twenty fifteen, would you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's when I moved to Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, we met shortly after you got here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very shortly.
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  Speaker 4: I remember with us being placed on a mess hall team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, no one's gonna know what that is, man,
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  Speaker 1: why would we even say this? So I was so emboxed.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, Like every time it's ever been like depicted
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  Speaker 4: in like TV or movies and stuff, I'm always like
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  Speaker 4: why they make it so embarrassing? And then it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's because it's like the worst fucking thing you could do.
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  Speaker 1: And writers always hate it.
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  Speaker 3: If you ever say anything aboutmpromits always I remember there's
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  Speaker 3: like a family guy joke that it was like the
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  Speaker 3: only person who loses an improv is the audience.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, it's like it's just so bad. But
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  Speaker 4: it's like what we did and you know, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: We still do it.
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  Speaker 3: I love how we're saying it in past tense because
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  Speaker 3: we just don't want you guys to know we're like
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  Speaker 3: a trash, like why would anybody do that? Also, can
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  Speaker 3: I get a word?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's it's I would say at
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  Speaker 4: this point for me, uh with uh, it seems like
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  Speaker 4: it's in the past tense based on shows they're asking
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  Speaker 4: me to do.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, grown adults with kids doing make.
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  Speaker 4: A mode exactly, I know, but practicing in somebody's living room.
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  Speaker 4: We're all in our thirties.
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  Speaker 3: We at least we don't do the living room no
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  Speaker 3: more because it was like this is just down bad.
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  Speaker 3: We cannot be running around a coffee table.
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  Speaker 4: I can't. I can't have your significant other coming into
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  Speaker 4: the room and being like, are you guys done it?
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  Speaker 1: That was always the worst. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had a roommate who like we hated each other
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  Speaker 3: and we met. It was like circumstance, you know. That
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  Speaker 3: was my first I don't know if you ever practiced
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  Speaker 3: at my place, but one time a couple of times
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  Speaker 3: we had to practice there and she would come in
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  Speaker 3: all mad.
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  Speaker 1: It's just slamming all.
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  Speaker 3: The fucking cabinets and ship and staring down the improv team.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, I've never seen somebody work so hard to
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  Speaker 3: make people uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: What a bitch, and I was doing it.
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  Speaker 3: I asked to practice, and it wasn't all the time.
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  Speaker 3: It was only when we couldn't find somebody else's living room.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think it's because she had like banger initiations
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  Speaker 4: that she couldn't do, and then she's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: even on this team, but like I could, I have
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  Speaker 4: a perfect tag for this.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, there's a fine art to be in a bitch,
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  Speaker 3: and she really perfected it. I never seen anybody just
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  Speaker 3: being such a much so hard.
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  Speaker 1: I do agree with that, you can't even with tactics.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes when you see it happening, it is just sort
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  Speaker 4: of like wow, like, actually, no notes, that was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: You are evil, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, you're capital b bitch congratulating somebody got to be opening,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and we're great costumes to be in the
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  Speaker 4: Marvel universe, but just in real life, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is very much just Look, it is
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  Speaker 4: a skill because like you have to sort of really
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  Speaker 4: like put everything else behind you and be like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't actually care how I seem. Yeah, this is directly
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  Speaker 4: getting in in the way of what I want, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 1: When I come in the room and everything falls quiet
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  Speaker 1: because they're talking about me, I'm like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah more exactly. Oh I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Where people see me out in public and I see
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  Speaker 1: them hid behind a shell.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many shelves in public that they're just people
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  Speaker 4: like hiding region. There's not enough room behind this one.
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  Speaker 4: I got hide.
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  Speaker 3: We walk into a publics or something, Everyone's like, is
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  Speaker 3: there an attack happening? Why is everyone like jumping and
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  Speaker 3: dodging behind the Oh no, that's just me. Everybody hates me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry. There's no active event happening. It's just me.
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  Speaker 4: But if I ever found out, if I ever found
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  Speaker 4: out anybody hated me, oh boy, would ruin my life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, ruin my life.
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  Speaker 3: I'm somewhere on the bitchkinsy scale because I know there's
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  Speaker 3: people out there who hate me. I can't help every
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  Speaker 3: now and then I just got cussing motherfucker out and
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  Speaker 3: so were going on bad term and that's that's the
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  Speaker 3: cancer and areas in me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry you got Yeah, it's gotta happen.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm gonna tell you where to go and how
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  Speaker 1: to get there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying not to do it as often anymore, but
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  Speaker 3: sometimes one time I used to be because somebody I
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  Speaker 3: haven't got to stand in the ovation from a valley
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  Speaker 3: line that I didn't realize. I've been listening to every word,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, sometimes eggs that'd be happening.
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  Speaker 4: Everywhere she goes. Lady's got a captive audience. We love
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  Speaker 4: we love it, but stop looking at her.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god no, hopefully not that I'm trying to be
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  Speaker 3: in cog Negro, just the most invisible Negro. Okay, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: if I ever go missing, I want to be like
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  Speaker 3: she had a nothing that lit up any room.
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  Speaker 1: We never knew she was there.
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  Speaker 4: Last scene wearing a cancel Me Daddy hat.
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  Speaker 3: Lady was like a cool breeze. You felt it, but
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  Speaker 3: you never really knew.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what everyone would say. No one would ever
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  Speaker 4: say she had the command of every room she walked in.
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  Speaker 1: She's like we felt like she was here. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: Lady yeah, I guess it. That is she loved.
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  Speaker 3: Eating chips, so we know she was in a touch
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  Speaker 3: and she loved chips to rito dust everywhere she went. Man,
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  Speaker 3: we always love to ask on the show, what's your
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  Speaker 3: relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: Do you love them? Do you hate them? It could
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  Speaker 1: be anything.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I love them or hate them.
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  Speaker 4: I do like hearing about them, so like, like hearing
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  Speaker 4: about them from you is like fun and the like
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  Speaker 4: I've always known that that to be like your thing,
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  Speaker 4: and I would always be like, oh, Lacy's got the mess,
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  Speaker 4: let's go. I want to hear more about this.
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  Speaker 3: So you're more of a voyeur, like if there was
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  Speaker 3: a scam sex party, like, you're gonna be the one
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  Speaker 3: like walking past the rooms like which I don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm past all the rooms. I'm gonna be there
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Parties have hell a pizza, yeah, like oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, there's fucking cold ones here.
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  Speaker 1: Food.
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  Speaker 3: To me, I haven't personally been someone I'm very curious,
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  Speaker 3: but my friends who like go to sex party, like
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  Speaker 3: there's always for somebody's Like a lot of them have pizza.
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  Speaker 4: I can guarantee you I'll probably live the rest of
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  Speaker 4: my life never being invited to one and probably never
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  Speaker 4: being at one.
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  Speaker 1: I give a sex party vibe, I'm not giving that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always just like, wait, this starts when.
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  Speaker 1: A sex party at noon?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, people are at work. Should I take
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  Speaker 4: the day off from work to they have a dentist appointment?
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  Speaker 1: Matt? Where all those whips? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I got a crazy dentist. But my relationship.
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  Speaker 4: The scams. I've been scammed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I remember, I have to when did you get scammed?
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  Speaker 4: I've been scammed. I've been almost scammed very recently. But
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  Speaker 4: I remember a particular instance. I was at the gas
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  Speaker 4: station a lot of the I was filling up my
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  Speaker 4: tank and filling up I was putting like twenty dollars in.
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  Speaker 4: I was like a broke college student.
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  Speaker 1: So you were moving that needle leg Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I gotta get a quarter tank.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta go two places before then I could ride
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  Speaker 4: e again. I gotta go somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to rail you by drugs. Remember when
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  Speaker 3: I ran out of gas? So you saw me on
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  Speaker 3: the road.
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  Speaker 4: On the middle of what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Asses on?
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  Speaker 1: It was very much like I know my car and
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  Speaker 1: then I forgot it.
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  Speaker 4: But it was also just sort of like I would
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  Speaker 4: at that time, I would sort of put knowing how
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  Speaker 4: much gases in your car at like the bottom of
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  Speaker 4: your list.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very low priority.
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  Speaker 4: Like I look, it's it's either in there it's not.
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  Speaker 4: I got things to do.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like I never get scamed at the
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  Speaker 3: gas station because you see on a tow truck or
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  Speaker 3: I'm never there. They're like, okay, we're not scamming her.
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  Speaker 3: Her car is literally being towed over here for gas.
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  Speaker 4: There's got a red cat gets put in by somebody
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  Speaker 4: who drove to you to put it in. You got
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  Speaker 4: you get a boutique gas delivery.
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  Speaker 1: Triple a gas okay, which is not cheap.
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  Speaker 3: But the whole red can theory that shit don't work
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  Speaker 3: on every car because I tried that. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: let me get a red pad like they do in
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  Speaker 3: the movies, and that shit was not going in.
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  Speaker 4: I can guarantee you if I try to do that,
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  Speaker 4: I'm bursting into flames afterward. There's no way I'm doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I just come up with three empty Gatoray bottles to
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  Speaker 1: the pump, like Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is La Sye, this is mango extremo, this
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  Speaker 4: is not gas. This is Kiwi strawberry.
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  Speaker 3: Forty ounces of gas will give me enough because I
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  Speaker 3: got my own.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you go. You filled up a.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking yeah he full of gas, like I got a funnel.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, so you're at the gas station where a
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  Speaker 3: lot of skims happen, and what happened.
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  Speaker 4: And like, I probably have forty dollars on me period,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm using twenty to put in the gas tank.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also not using a card. I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: paying in cash at the time. I feel like now,
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  Speaker 4: I just I can't remember the last time I had
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  Speaker 4: cash on me. You just don't do it anymore, kind
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  Speaker 4: of they told you not too, I guess during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 4: like don't touch money.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, cashould have been full of cocaine and its stripper
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  Speaker 3: booty hall over forever.
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  Speaker 1: And now they're like, there's a pandemic. Yeah, hey, don't
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  Speaker 1: touch money.
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  Speaker 4: Look, Fauci said it. Okay, I don't take it from me.
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  Speaker 4: It was freaking Fauci.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and the CDC, which just turned into vibes there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's all vibes. But I'm at the gas station
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  Speaker 4: and this guy comes up to me. He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: like your headlights they're pretty dirty and I could like
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  Speaker 4: clean those up for you pretty good. And I was
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  Speaker 4: sort of like, oh, you know, I'm like in a rush,
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  Speaker 4: which is like not true, but I'm like I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to.
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  Speaker 1: Talk away from that man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and this is I'll keep it. I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you this broad daylight is so how.
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  Speaker 1: Can he even tell how dirty your headlights are?
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  Speaker 4: Because they were like I was driving a jeep Cherokee lore.
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  Speaker 1: Off thrown in like a TV commercial.
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  Speaker 4: They were sort of like foggy, kind of like not
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  Speaker 4: like dirty dirty, but like sort of like the the
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  Speaker 4: glass had fogged up in such a way that like
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  Speaker 4: it was oh pick kind of like it wasn't like
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  Speaker 4: very clear.
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  Speaker 1: So when you were driving at night where your headlight's
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  Speaker 1: giving like lo.
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  Speaker 4: Fi, yeah, I was sort of giving like it follows
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  Speaker 4: when I was driving like sort of like a twenty
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  Speaker 4: four lighting uh on the Yeah, we.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want we don't want mood lights on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Maybe my boy had a point.
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  Speaker 4: And so he was like I could just let me
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  Speaker 4: just show you one. Can I just show you one.
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  Speaker 4: I'll clean one up and if you like it, you
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  Speaker 4: can pay me. And I was like, okay, if you're
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  Speaker 4: just gonna do one, do it, I guess, which was like.
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  Speaker 3: Very nineties My big problematic crack had in a movie.
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  Speaker 3: I would say he was giving Friday. I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: like what kind of man he was, but he was
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  Speaker 3: like he seemed like a like a normal man. Like
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  Speaker 3: that's why I was sort of like, I guess, willing
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  Speaker 3: to go the one step further with this.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, there's one light, let me touch on one lee.
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  Speaker 4: It was like just a tip because he was sort
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  Speaker 4: of I think he was giving. He was giving sort
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  Speaker 4: of Billy May's kind of where I was sort of like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: h wow, I thought so I thought I was gonna
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  Speaker 4: get sham wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and okay, So what happened?
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  Speaker 4: So he he cleans one off and I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's cool. He's like, Okay, it's gonna be sixty dollars
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  Speaker 4: if I do the other one. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: well I'm not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, have one good.
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  Speaker 4: I was like okay, no, thanks, that's that's a little
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  Speaker 4: too much. And he was trying to get me down
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  Speaker 4: to the price and he was like, Okay, my daughter's
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  Speaker 4: in the van over there and she's sick and she
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  Speaker 4: wants food. And I was like, okay, I know this
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  Speaker 4: isn't true, like in my head, but I also know
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  Speaker 4: that this man is not going to leave me alone.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you got to hop in the car like
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  Speaker 1: some Scooby Doo shit mad to my wallet and gave
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  Speaker 1: him twenty dollars. Oh you had was forty, I know,
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  Speaker 1: and I used twenty of it. I'm gased I had
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  Speaker 1: no money. I went home.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, wow, See why do you want to hit him back?
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  Speaker 3: Like this is the only twenty that I got?
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  Speaker 4: Mister sir cut to me coming home, Matt, why is
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  Speaker 4: one of your headlights spotless? I gotta tell everybody, like, Matt,
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  Speaker 4: you got scammed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So he didn't even give you the other headlight
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  Speaker 1: after you gave him the one. See that's okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: In the future, guys, when y'all need to get away
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  Speaker 3: from people, just make an excuse.
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  Speaker 1: Man, if you a.
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  Speaker 3: Guy in your car and be like, oh, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: let me get some more cash, get in your car,
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  Speaker 3: lock the doors, and then.
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  Speaker 1: Just like drive away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I absolutely should have done that.
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  Speaker 1: Because he might have gotten hostile. So you're right, so like.
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  Speaker 4: Like here's but also I was like, I guess you
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  Speaker 4: could have taken my whole wallet if you wanted. But
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  Speaker 4: it was like there, it was during a day like
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  Speaker 4: I was, and it was at like a gas station
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  Speaker 4: in a big parking lot, like where there's a grocery
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  Speaker 4: store and a bunch of cameras and stuff. So it
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  Speaker 4: was just sort of like I felt safe to give
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  Speaker 4: the last money that I had.
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  Speaker 3: Well, your other option, miss scam, is just start hollering, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what is it? I think that's like the most jarring
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  Speaker 3: thing you can do. Something the rag No, my daughter's
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  Speaker 3: sticking the car. She needs sixty and already clean.
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  Speaker 4: One go full permit to start throwing my arms in
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  Speaker 4: the air.
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  Speaker 3: Just started flailing his scream until they go away? Like what, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what's the response to that? Does anyone humanly respond to
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  Speaker 3: someone who just starts shrewking?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, shoot, this guy's going crazy. I better get out
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  Speaker 4: of here.
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  Speaker 1: Like go fool talladay, good nights.
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  Speaker 4: Gruels like actually, sir, you said you're gonna give you
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  Speaker 4: that twenty dollars though, like no one's gonna be like
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  Speaker 4: following up with.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: This man, but no, just start screaming and flailing.
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: But then when I was in Italy recently, these people
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: they come. I was prepared for this too. I was
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: told I've never been in Europe before.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, the europe girlies are going to rob you. They
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: can tell who the out of towners are and they're coming.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: They were, so I was prepped. My my girlfriend's dad
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: is English and they've been to Europe a lot, and
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: I'd never been out of the country before, and so
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: they both prepped me. Hey, there's gonna be people. They're
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: gonna come up to you. They're going to put a
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: bracelet on your wrist.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Don't you I've heard of this one.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay. I get there. First day,
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: some guy in like a like the square, like in
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: front of a church. Hey, big man. I was like,
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: what's up, man, No, I start talking to this dude.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Let me get it scam you because he called you
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: big man.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: He almost did he had to bracelet on my wrist?
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Was it height flattery?
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Mat?
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: It was well? And then later on that same day,
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: a different guy.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: He said big man, me my big ass.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: I got called big man and playboy in the same day.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, okay, I got this and mister sexys.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: And me I was walking on cloud and nine. I
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: was like, these Europeans, then, did you get scammed?
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Because it sounds like they made you feel good?
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: No, I had the thing. I was like, hey, they
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: gave me a compliment. What's the worst that can happen.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: But my girlfriend came over and was like, no, no, no, no,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: he doesn't want this and took the bracelet off my
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: wrist and gave it back to him because we saw
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: it happening to other people too, and we were just like,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: oh wow. And so we started reading about these sort
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: of like tourism scams that you can run into, and
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: so I was prepared for some other ones along the
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: way that I didn't participate it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: But it's almost like like you know, when the Dare
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Dog was being like say no to drugs, and we
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, ill no, fuck them drugs.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Try to give me drugs. I'm stabling. Yeah, And then
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody offer you some drugs.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Like y'all do like I have a fun you guys
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: are having, like the chilli is nicest time.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Let me just have a taste of the drugs.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, this is just gonna like make me want
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: to like I don't know, dance, dance or like laugh
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: a lot with my friends.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Right, what is this one? Weed?
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, wait, I can go to sleep right now,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: give me that.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: And the dareline was just like fuck man, like I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: prepared y'allfered this.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the moment, sometimes things are different, especially when
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: someone's in your face space.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: They got to change that whole program to be like, hey,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: you know which ones we're talking about.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Right, like come on, like let's be for real, like
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: weed is a gate, come on now.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Nothing, do what you're gonna do, but you know the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: ones we're saying, yeah crap, yeah, come on?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Has that ever even sounded good?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, y'all come over, we got so much crack,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Like you know if you be like, oh, we got
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: bottles and be like oh.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's pop them.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: But you know, oh yeah, y'all come over, we got
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: all the needles. No, that doesn't sound as good.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: If you can find it in a gutter like a
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: p like no one's dropping their like their one hitter,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: or like they're like the long in a like leaving
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: that discarded somewhere if you've seen this on the streets somewhere,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: you don't want to Yeah, that's the.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Ones you don't want to try, because like a while,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: people doing them in the streets and not at home.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: The urgency to you know, but I've seen nas canisters
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: in the streets. To me, that's not a fair judgment.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's very true.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so at least you're prepared for the European scams.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm glad that you had an advocate there who
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: can help you. If not the screaming technique, I'm telling
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: you try it, right.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I think I want to hear I want to hear
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: about people doing this. I want to hear about people
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: being like and I just started screaming.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think. I think it's a tactic that works.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Scarce God and we are back and it's time for
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: What's Hot and fraud. This is where we warn our
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: listeners about popping scams on the street, or more of
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: than not. These days, we get a letter from you guys.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: It's always snitched on your friends and family at scam
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: got uspot at gmail dot com. Just make sure the
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: scam is retired, because we don't want know what yes,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: fuck up, yo, bag So, I just need a fake
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: name for this person.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: We don't care about gender on the show. Could be anything.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh how about Sandy Sandy.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think that's a perfect name for this person. So
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Sandy says that this is their grocery store scam. So
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: one of the big grocery chains loves to do pilot
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: programs at my local store, probably because it's a newer
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: location in a wealthy white area. Damned, and I guess
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: they trust white people when no one should question mark.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: This was Sandy's.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: So this new program, says that they created was called
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: scan bag Go. You take a little handheld scanner from
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a kiosk by the door and scan items before putting
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: them straight into your bag. At the end of your
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: shopping excursion, you would scan a barcode a self checkout
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: where it would populate a list of items you scanned.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Then you'd pay and leave, hence scan bag go. So
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I imagine this is going to turn into scam bag
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: go a little fast or bag go.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Miss a step the scanning gonna. Oh you got a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: scamp for you?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Bad O. I didn't.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Oh I read that sign was obscured.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just read bad go so I put it,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: think of my bag, and I love like, go ahead,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: want to?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Also I love the grocery stores continue to try to
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: scam us as consumers by making us employees when we
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: keep to the motherfucking grocery store.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Hey, I know you're shopping here, but you work here.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Now you want a.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Job like no, I don't, Well guess what you have one, bitch? Yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you want this, you want this hammer and all.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: It's also like they're trying this out in a white
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: like at a white store.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Assuming that white people don't steal when they're.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Not gonna be the number one doing it. They're gonna
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: be the number one people doing this. You'll never catch
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a person of color doing it because I guess.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: We're stealing people.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: White people steal ideas white people. That's that's a corner
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: store of their culture. Honestly, just like how you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: indigenous people don't want people wearing their garb, you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and the Halloween.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: You know, we also should not be robbers because that's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: white culture. Yeah yeah, yeah, we actually shouldn't be doing that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: You know people say white people don't have culture, it
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: is actually stealing.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's they have what do you call museums that's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: where they put out a loop. Yeah, yeah, that we stot.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: But like, I also just feel like I work. I
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: mean I worked at a grocery store and lost prevention.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something is never looking at white
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: people so they can get away with it scott free.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: They don't need this program.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Right, which is wild. They could really go in and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: just bag and go like they're like like la la la.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: They're doing it at every store.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying is you got to try this in
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: a different neighborhood and then see the program will be
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: a success.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: If you're white, considered more theft, I mean, you might
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: as well use your privilege.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, maybe don't get some to a
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: food bank, you don't really eaven it out in the world.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we should really be encouraging white people to really
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: be stepping what is roberhood.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: That's lore.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: It's lore that Fox was white.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: We know it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So obviously they're not looking at the Caucasian girlies when
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: they're coming into the store. So when this program was
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: going on, I was broken. Shit, I could barely afford
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: to exist. Working at a nonprofit is also a scam.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know that, Sandy.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: So Santa says, I'll walk to the grocery store. So
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I use a hand cart with wheels to carry my
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: groceries back home. I regularly use self checkout because back
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: don't know how to pack my bag correctly without giving
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: me a bajillia extra. Okay, listen, Santa, go to the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: grocery store. She said, I have particular as.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I have a particular set of skills.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, she said, the eggs on the bottom, and the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: braid on top of the eggs, and stop fucking with me.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: And eggs on the bottom. That's it. Yeah, like I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: not you think there's a can going in the baggs.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Santa is constantly fighting at to check out.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: You wanted to put that there? Guess what I speaking
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: to your manager? Baby.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: You put my cold milk next to my hot rotissary chicken.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I bet you. This ice
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: cream is going by the rotary chicken. I didn't have
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: a new one. It's like the hottest thing you get there.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It's like the hottest thing you're gonna get in the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: grocery store. What else is coming out? Smoking hat and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: a grocery tenders aren't nah, oh no.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Never that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: So I like the Scan Bag Go program because I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: could pack my bag once I had shopped, and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: didn't have to take ages at the self checkout. So
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I figured out, since no one had checked you, if
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you scanned everything in your bag, I could just scan
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: a few items and then put them in my hand
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: cart and ignore the rest. On average, I would skip
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: roughly fifty to sixty percent.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Of my groceries. That's not some, that's not that most.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: That's most, Sandy, Sandy, the math is not mad thing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I just do some much, do so much, almost all
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I just do a.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Little bit, just like whatever I could carry, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: just a little taste. That's all, Sandy.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I love the presentation of this. You're a scammer, even
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: how you wrote this, Oh, Sandy said, did she said?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Sometimes seventy five percent?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a where I'm from, that's a B minus.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: That's almost all of it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And also Sandy, okay, but Sandy says, that always the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: expensive items, and I'd walk out without anyone stopping me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: So if you can make your volume stuff the stuff
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: you pay for, and then the expensive.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Seff leaders get taken yeah, the Rochester Chicken not getting scammed,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: cause it's like.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Did y'all see Sandy walked out of here, She paid
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: eight ninety nine and she had a full cart.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's a turkey in there, a whole turkey.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I know, a turkey on his own this morning. Yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, let me look, Sandy was white, so we
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: will be asking no question. Yeah, no, heys, listen, truly
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: didn't see a damn thing.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Didn't see a thing.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: So some expensive items like protein powder have a metallic
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: barcode sticker to trigger an alarm. To get around this,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I pretend I was really considering the items while I
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: peeled off the bar code and stuck it to the show.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So this is going a step further than not scanning it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: This was a premeditated thing. Okay, I'm gonna steal this.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: We're gonna appropriate this because Sandy, you wanted some shit. Also,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I love that she was standing in the store like
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: hmm way metabolic way creotine and she slowly peels off
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the label. Let me read more close she pulling out
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: her glasses.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, getting her readers out.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Readers out.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Sandy got some fold up upper bull readers.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: She pulling out like what isn't it oh interesting? Like
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Sandy really cares about her Hell, she'd be reading all
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the labels.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she I love them.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: So they discontinued the program after a little over a year,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: probably because people were stealing so much and a little
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: over people.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Sandy, I think you guilty.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Program.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I think it was you because you just told us
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that you was stealing seventy five percent of what you.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Seventy five percent might as well.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: It's so much what stopped you from going to eighty.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Truly, Sandy, at this point, why don't you just start?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You know, some of the shells got wheels, just rolled
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: home out.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess the programs just continued. I was gonna say,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: one last score, go for one hundred percent. I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you can do it. If you can do seventy five percent,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: you can do all of it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Sandy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I know that you just got the vibe of like
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: an elegant white lady like you said you work at
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: nonprofit Wanona.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And she had nothing wrong, by the way, No, she
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: did it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: She was having fun. And Wenona has been working since
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: she was a child. She deserves to steal from high
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: end stores y'all should have give Panona that stuffy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I can hear the face of the campaign after that,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and I'm so.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Sad for Banana because she that whole happened. The whole
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: thing happened during a tabloid time where people were so
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: bored that like it was a story for months and
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: months and months. If we noa win, it hit up
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: sacks right now and rolled out with a car to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Loue Batons.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Nobody would care. The new cycle is so fast.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna get back into game right now. Get
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: back in the game. No, no, no, no, get out
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: in these streets. Okay, start saying no.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: To purchasing again and say yes, yes right, say yes.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, we'll support you. I'll be at the march on
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: mixed signs.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I can't pay your bill because I bet you would
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: be really expensive for a second offense, but I will
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: contribute to the go fund.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, I will contribute to the person who needed the least.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we will give it to you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Just be a thrill.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Well, put me in the dock.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: So they dis continued the program. Yeah, after you discontinue,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: its handy, But I love that for you. Probably because
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: people were stealing so much, probably and a little over
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a year. I think I stile close to four thousand
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of groceries, including kitchen gadgets, a twenty five
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: piece rubber Maids set, and ADU toaster.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: That's this is this has gone.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: She got a toaster, she said, I got six neutral bullets.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: A twenty five piece rubber maid Listen, people, first of all, tupper,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we should be free.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: The way we all steal it and use it, it's
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: just like a communicable resource.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's just like a road, you know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: We all take it from other people and we all
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: give it away and never see it again.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: The only place doing this Thai restaurants. They're giving you
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: pretty solid, durable they they know. They're like, hey, you're
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: gonna use this again.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Wash it, just wash it, bab okay, because they's gonna
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: get that color stain on it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: It's gonna shrink a little bit. Yeah, it's not gonna
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: quite seal. And I could keep it as fresh.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Hand wash it. We got you with the TI spot.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Throw away and you're not gonna know this exactly.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: That's why I get all my rubber mads the time.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Two place.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: So now the grocery store has cameras above the self
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: checkout that look at your bag to see if you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: stealing a hater move if I've ever seen one, Can
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I just say, Sandy, I ain't never seen nobody case
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: some mother fucking grocery store like you you done found
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: out about the barco before you walk out the door or.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You know that and put in new cameras.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Is this what are the characters from Good Girls?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: It's giving Good Girl like I feel like saying it
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: gonna be like update, I robbed the grocery store.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah wait, is this Emily the criminal writing?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Literally?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So this says grocery stores have a built in budget
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: for theft and this is a mega corpse ide absolutely
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: zero gift guilt doing it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And frankly I do it again.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Pay your employees more and stop putting baby formula behind
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: lock and key.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Fuck the man is stay scheming now.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: You made absolute points now now, one of the points
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: not being to stop putting a baby formula behind like
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: because you go steal.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: It, yeah, and not because you have a baby you
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: want it? Yeah right, Just I've tied everything else in
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the store to make some of.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: This up, just to got him some fun.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: It's supermarket sweet at this point, just like, let me
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: get the dogs right. I don't even got a dog,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: but I just want to take the most explicive sit
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you'all got for high end cheeses, like I'm lactose in tolerant.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want the wheel of breed back there.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But I will say formula shouldn't be under like and key.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: If people need to steal formula, let them steal it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: They're stealing it for an unemployed baby, Like, what the
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: fuck a mess? Rabb run and we're back and it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: time for historic hoodwings. This is where I will regale
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Matt with a famous con caper a group of criminals. Well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: maybe we'd like them, maybe we hate them. We'll see
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: along the way. But y'all know that this show is
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: not a scam, so we're always going to give props.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: In our footnotes, you can click the links to any
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: research that kaylen Brand, our amazing researcher, pulls up. But
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: also we love to shout out when a good bit
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: comes from one place. When you know, I don't know
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: a little bit like seventy five percent comes from one place.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Shout out Sandy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Also, by the way, I feel like we were roasting
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Sandy pretty hard.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: We love no Sandy. We're in on it, and you
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: know what, you know what you did, and we love
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: what you did. So much of this research comes from
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the story Ava Kaufman's New Yorker investigation, which was titled
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: How Hospice Became a for profit Hustle. And obviously, like
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: hospice is, we're talking about people getting end of life care.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: So this is a sensitive subject. But when we get
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: into this, y'all, what this lady was doing, you'll see
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: how hilarious this is.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Poor So we're gonna laugh. We are gonna laugh.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: We are gonna laugh in the face of din which
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: is what we do every day living in America.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Thanks you very much. It's a joke to be alive, truly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I laugh.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, I made it another day. Who they tried,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: as Miley Cyrus once said, they tried to carry your
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: favorite bitch ook gay and they try every day.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Since the opening of the first American hospice facility in
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Connecticut in nineteen seventy four, hospice care has grown from
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: a series of charities to a twenty two billion dollar industry,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: funded almost entirely by taxpayer money. But with such massive
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: profits has come massive fraud. The Yeah, with only a
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: handful of whistleblowers that stand against it, because you're scamming
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the government, and the government is a scam.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I feel like like societally, the last people
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: that people care about are like old people unfortunately, right,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: you know, are.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: People who are in their last days being comfortable. I
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: just feel like it's hard to get people ramped up
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: to be like they over there doing fraud people. Well,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: it's like nobody's gonna yeah, we're not walking That's like
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: walking into Saint Jude's and being like, well.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I don't wait, kids, we got fraud to detail.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: It's like that with the you know, whatever.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: They're doing over there. As long as people being taken
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: care of, weird, it's nothing about the business.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Take care only. That's all I want to hear about.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Great style.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So Sarah cares what we're talking about today.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: So Marsha Farmer entered the hospice care business in two
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: thousand and two as a community educator in parentheses who
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: taught and marketed to potential patients about the benefits of
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: end of life care. Within a year, she became an
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: executive director of her local office of hospice in South
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: mon Roeville, Alabama.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: However, what might have become.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Is a virtuous calling changed in two thousand and four, Wow,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: only two years.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: She said she saw that she was leaving money on
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: the table probably way.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: The damn man I can have this right, Well, I'm
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: leaving out his old money over here just because we
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: don't need it. So when Hospice South was bought by
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Beverly Enterprises, Beverly Enterprise doesn't sound like a place is
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: doing anything right for the world.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: That's like a fake. It's like I could have made
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that up. It's not real.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: When rich money bags purchased.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Acquired Hospice South, yeah, we know what's about to happen.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Beverly Enterprises. That don't sound godly at all.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Right, oh bitch your cabinets, ass, bitch ass, we know
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: what's happening. So the second largest nursing home chain in
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: the country, and soon after we sold it to a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: private equity firm.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Whow we were right on it. Not the pe edited
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: out my shocked noise take it back.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: So it was rebranded as a Sarah Care. Almost immediately
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: after the takeover, Marsha's bosses increased the goals for the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: number of new patients that they had to sign up,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: because of course, they're like, we got to get in
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: the black. Okay, we need to get the six in here. Yeah, okay,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing enough six. These are empty beds. Why
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: is no one coding right now? We get the money? Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: we need we need more sick people here.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so important note.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Normally eligible hospice pations qualify by being certified by two
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: doctors that they have less than six months to live
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and agree to forour go curative care. So Medicare reimburse
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: them not for the amount of care expended, but per patient.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: So basically they're saying, like, you have to have two
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: notes that say that you are approaching the end of life,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and then they will and that you're no longer pursuing
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: like medical treatment, and then they'll just.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Pay you out man. Two notes, Yeah, not just one.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You gotta be one doctors.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's crazy.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because Medicare is not trying to give
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: out the.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Coins, so they're going to force you to get a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: second opinion.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: So if you ever thought you needed a second opinion,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Medicare is telling you right now, like go to what
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I get?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I get second, I don't want to hear it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: If you only got one, which is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: A mess, you could be like, m this ain't enough.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Oh you're dying somebody else?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: It's not giving? It's not giving, cass, so go ass.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: It's like medicas so disgusting. So that meant that an
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: increased number of patients didn't massively affect their overhead, as
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: most hospice care took place at home between visiting nurses
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: and unpaid family, so employees who met quotas received cash,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: bonuses and perks such as popcorn machines and massage chairs.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Imagine getting a popcorn machine.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: How people.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And the popcorn machines. Yeah, yeah, that's what it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Should be going to look at some point we all
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: gonna have to meet, you know, Uh Scott, Daddy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Can't get me, I can't get me find out see
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: what happens? You think I'm gonna die? Nice?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Try so those but you know it's like we want
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: to do it in a comfortable way or whatever.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: We're lucky, Yeah, in like respect and absolutely and care,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: So Marsha remembers feeling so frustrated and pressured about meeting
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: numbers that she calculated how many people in her region
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: might be expected.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: To die that year. Because what happened was if you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: didn't need the quotas, you were fired.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: If you didn't find the terminy terminally ill.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah doing it? Like uh hey, so like how
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: are your niees?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: So now she's starting to look at the CDC number
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: positions like okay, how manute?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Where are they dying?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I get a copy of the censor over sixty five?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: So, not only were there not enough people dying in
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: her territory, they weren't dying fast enough.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Did she become like an eco terrorist or something? She's like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I'm putting stuff in the water, like.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Sandy's just pulling up with a dump truck of just
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: all the chemicals to all the Chinese lead pash up,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Like we got what fluoride? We put straight lead in
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the water. Okay, no, we gotta get these girls dead.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: What is this people live in?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I saw people at the park yesterday looking like healthy
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: as fuck.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: This is the Hey, gladys, I got you a special water.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Why do you keep.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Dropping off special water? And it tastes like very rapid. Yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I'm shaking it in the car. She said it was
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: just a sony flavor.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: But I was like, I sneeze blood and only tastes metal,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: So I don't know what's going on.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But dosny do taste like rapos, so I'm a drink.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: So actually she didn't have to even do anything. She
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: just gave him. That was her response.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Love. Just designing is delicious, y'all. Y'all really should put
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it in your mouth.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It gets colder than the other water.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and just so much flavor. Yeah, I had
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: never tasted earth before, Like when you taste.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Designing, one sip of desagny in the desert and it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: all I needed.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: For a month, extra hydration. So we love you, Coca Cola.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: So if a patient might not actually die within the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: six month window, Medicare can demand a repayment from facilities
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: where the average patient stays is like long is longer
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: than six months. So now you have this weird ased
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: thing with Medicare where they're calling like, hey, y'all, we
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: just want to check on.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: His gladdies because we heard she was alive.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Somebody got a birthday coil and We was like, how
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: she senting that from.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: You said you were dying? You doing here?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: On her?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It's still what are you doing here?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Are?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You told us she was leaving?
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Hey, I saw that hole over there as fucking empty hell.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Less from signat you picked up. That's the problem. That's
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: essentially the problem.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: To say, why the fuck do you answer?
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yo?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Our homes of its fun?
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It's so bad, so bad.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: So recruiting. Marsha found her own solution was a murdered people,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: and what is your own solution to get more damn people?
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: So and, along with her colleagues, began recruiting patients, regardless
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: of whether they were near death or not. In the
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Deep South, they often targeted impoverished communities with low rates
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: of education. Wow, so now you're coming for people who
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: likely you know, don't have money, don't have a lot
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of options, perhaps are people of color.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Like, we know what you're doing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: So Marcia would cruise around looking for run down homes
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: with wheelchair ramps, or keep a church prayer list around,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: so look for families with ill members. Oh my god,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Marsha not the sickest shutting list. Marshall was going to
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: church services and this I'm Baptist, so we have the
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: sickest shutting where you you pray for these people or
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: you visit their homes or you bring them food.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: She going to every church and like, let me get
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: a program. Is this up to date? Is this all
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the six and the shut t.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: You're not doing a repeatd last week's, are you?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Because because I don't know?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because look, people who owned this list was
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: on here last week and it just seemed like I
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: don't know how sick was shutting in?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: They are?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: You got a Google doc or like a Google sheet
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: or something. Here's a business card?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Who does the submissions? Cause I get copied it on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the shut in list?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, let me just get in with with the announcements.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Praise him, Yeah, no, pray I will take them Martin
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Luther king face, Yes, thank you so much.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Here's a hard cake I brought.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: For the hard cake, oh p cake from from the
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: grocery store that I definitely did not steal, Okay, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: just I scanned it and left. So she'd show up
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to especially run down houses and knock on the door
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: in scrubs despite not having any medical background. That she
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: weren't costumes, as she says in quotes, I would automatically
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: be seen as help. You're looking for uneducated people, if
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: you will, because you're able to provide something to them
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and meet a need. So she's looking for the desperation meter.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: We talk about out here, people who really need this
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Because I nobody.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Like if somebody showed up in my house and some
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: damn scrubs looking like a fake ass, girls and Nadamy
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Extra talk about something you want to go to hospitals,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, but if you don't get off my.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Damn doors stow today, you're not gonna get me. What
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: are you even doing here?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Babe, babe? I'm full of life.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you see? I do a backflip right now.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I can do a flip.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: This is our We don't have good measurements for what
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: full of life means, which because you know, who could.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Say, who could say, who could say? On their last
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: day could do the most clip I've ever.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Seen, and it happened.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Language for it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But we're you know, each day is a blessing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So we're trying to keep it light y'all because this
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: is fun, but also saying so, and then she would
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: describe comparatively luxurious government benefits before finishing her pitch to
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: make them sing like it was like a quick decision.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: So she's described just like, hey, do you want.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Free room and board and games and entertainment and a
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: chef that cooks for you twenty four to seven and
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: television and the best beds and around the care, medical supervision.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And single there all the drugs.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're giving them the straight out of high school,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: go army treatment but for dying.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And at the end it's like, okay, but it's a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: hospitality and you got five minutes to sign up. Now
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get in my car and drive away.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: So what do you say?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, unless you want your life to be miserable,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you better sign.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: This bright because we going to see your neighbor next door,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: and we know you'll never gonna take this deal.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So we only got one bed, So do you want it?
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So, once Martia had them on the hook, she'd send
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a nurse out to assess whether the potential patient had
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: any symptoms that could look like a terminal illness.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: She'd often use the reputation.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Of the black belt region of the Deep South that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: has some of the highest rates of heart to see
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: it's diabetes and infysima in the country. So she was
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: going after the growth. Like I mean, she got the show.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: So you know, even though even though people live with
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: diabetes every single day, but you know, she's targeting things
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: that she can kind of like us.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Up a little bit like this is this could be something.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Like did y'all notice Marka came to my house and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: now all my trilicity is gone?
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened to it?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: No?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I think she stole it. And then she had somebody
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: come over and and do the prick called me to
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: check my levels.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: But but then she came and tried to do it herself.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Know what's going on. I got pricked twice one day.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she said that she found all of
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: my usblate her purse and gave it back to me
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: after I got preted.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. So yeah, she's bad.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: So in order to get the necessary doctor approval, some
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: hospice firms would even bribe doctors to bring them new
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: patients by offering all expense paid trips to Las Vegas nightclubs,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: complete with bottle service and private security detail.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: So she's this is good.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, why not just give them money. I feel
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: like money is the bribe that I like. But they
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: were like, do you want to live like a rock
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: star millionaire, We'll fly you out private to Vegas.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I can have a red bull in my hand in
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: two hours.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And just the loudest music you've ever heard.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm ill. That's where I want to
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: be a doctor. Oh the doctors. The doctors, Yeah, well
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: they started right, but so they're like, well, treat you
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: like you want to live a day in the life
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: of Tiger. Yeah yeah, Oh I can be like a
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: cool I could be a cool doctor.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the coolest of doctors.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: So they're flying them out to Vegas and you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: letting them ball out and live the celebrity lifestyle. In
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: the case of the doctor politicians such as doctor Francisco Penna,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: former mayor of Rio Bravo, Texas, they could receive actual kickbacks.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah look at this man, it's giving I take bribes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've never seen a more bribable face and neck. No,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: that necho, that neck moves and says yes to bribe.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's that fucking little bird taking
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: a drink out of the look.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: At that saying hard, saying yes, the bribes, it's whole life.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: He looks like we're looking at a picture, so that's
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: why we're saying.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: He looks like he's about to say no, but he don't.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be like just kidding.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, you go wink though, yes, Like look I work
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: at politicians. I can't just move my neck.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The only thing he's saying no too is that
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: he doesn't not do that. He's like, I do do it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And look at him, hold in his glasses like he
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: about to say something smart. Yeah, that's the criminal right here.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Ther He says, love that for him, and he got
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: his white coat behind him, like, don't forget, don't like
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: these scrubs for you.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I am doctor ring, I'm over the girl.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: He walks out with it over his shoulder. He's kind
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: of like a cool doctor.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: This is a city council meeting.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Why are you wearing full scrubs and in the stethoscope
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: saying stat in between the motions. So other firms would
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: also attempt or excuse me. Other firms would tempt at
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: it with the prospect of free painkillers, trick people into
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: believing the program was free home healthcare, or even steal
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: personal information to enroll patients without their knowledge.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Google behavior, If I've ever heard it, that's.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So thick as shit.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine somebody comes over standing they're doing the census,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, somebody just randomly showing up
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: to your house every week.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Not even that, just be like, hey, like, look, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: noticed that you have like some sort of like, you know, addiction.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: So I.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Exploit That's crazy, I mean, Hill, Yeah, yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mean to imply that I was doing
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: something tool.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But we gonna exploit the addiction by helping you win it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That's what we exploit.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: And you know that's like a vulnerable class as well.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extremely vulnerable, and it's a disease.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So it's just not it's not cool to take advantage
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: of people, whether they have diseases or not, but especially
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: if they're in a vulnerable position. So this is just Marshall,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: you are real. You are a corporate criminal.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But maybe she turns it around. We don't know. She
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: has a euro arc about it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: So because the stipulation of the hospice care is that
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: patients do not receive curative care. Patients who are signed
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: up for hospice against their knowledge could suddenly be denied
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: life saving procedures and medications. So this is really fucked
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: up because like if you need to call the ambulance
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: and they're like hello for where, Oh no, we can't
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: pick you up, you know, yeah, you on our blackout list,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: can't We can't drop over there?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Like what And you don't even know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Because like you think if this person's coming up to
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: you and you're being in there, like you think you're
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: taking that face value that what they're saying is true,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and then you're like, okay, like well this would be good.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: This is going to in the event that I have
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: some sort of issue, I'll be taken care of.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's exact opposite. Yeah, yeah, Marcia, you gotta
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: go to jail, Joe. But also we got to throw
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: rocks at you in the town square, like on your
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: way there, like we do have a little shame bell
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and just the tiniest rocks that we all should be
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: able to throw at you, one big one, one big one,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: but the rest just so small.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: And it's it's like in the eye of the beholder too,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Like that knows how how big is.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: A mountain? That's a big rock. We throw a mountain
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: at you.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: That's kind of the thing you really people don't really
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: say about mountains, Like and I think we're it's good
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: that we're getting this out there. That's actually a rock.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: It's a big ass rock, and we should be afraid
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: of that rock because why is it so big?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: And how did you get there?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: How many other rocks did destroyed? We had the pebbles
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: become pebbles. This is deeper than we thought. This is
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: my new Uh, you can read about this is my book.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of info here.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I'm printing it myself and you can buy it off.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: So the second part of the problem was that once
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: they had them, they also missed the patients. Once they
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: tricked them, they also had to get rid of them
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: if they weren't dying quickly enough, which was common for
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: many ineligible patients because they're not dying. So one tactic
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: that Sarah Carer used was simply to discharge patients with
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: overly long stays from hospice, often losing any sort of
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: medication aids and care that they had.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: So one day you just wake up and there they
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: rolling you out.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: The door and you're sick, and you're like hey, They're like, hey,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: you're sick. Yeah, that's so good.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's so disgusting.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: So one tactic of sarah Care used was simply to
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: discharge patients over the long stays. In two thousand and seven,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: seventy percent of Marsha's patients left hospice alive.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Others turned too much.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Worse, and there's at least one example of a hospice
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: owner instructing a staff.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: To, oh, no, overdose, they're overstayingho. So now we're doing murder.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, So I will put a content warning at the
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: top of this because I didn't know that this was
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: gonna be doing murder.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this has turned from I knew.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I had a feeling it was gonna get murdery because
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: she's like, they're not dying fast enough.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: And then like at first I was I was sort
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: of like, is this just like I care a.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Lot, Yeah, which was you know, was bad, which was bad,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: but yeah, no, we're going beyond that. She said, hold
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: my beer. So the owner was sentenced to more than
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: thirteen years in prison for fraud and in a plea
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: deal that made no allegations about patient's death, despite texting
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: a nurse about one patient saying in quotes, he better
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: not make it tomorrow or I will blame you.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: How do you not go thirteen years?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: They gave Turtleneck Lizzie, and she did harm people when
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: she wasn't actually giving them real blood results. But she
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't actively murdering anyone. Yeah, and like she got eleven
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: thirteen years.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Only two more, that's maybe double.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: It feel like you shouldn't see the sun again, Like
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: your hospice is now, Joe, And I'm even I don't
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: like the carcial system, but I'm sorry, Like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: You need to stay in there.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: You're going to the jail because you're morel compassed. Is good.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need you out here on the streets.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Your brain is dangerous.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: It's like that's like that is murder, like you like
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: you're sort of like, hey, like you and it's not
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: even well, it's not murder, it's uh, it's well, what
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: is it manslaughter? Because you're sort of telling.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Somebody's pre meditated Yeah, yeah, like hey, yeah, that's a murder.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It's a premeditative murder.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: And also we know that you must have done this
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: a lot, because if you get to the point where
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you're so casual about murder that you're sending text messages
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: about it, then you've been doing so many murders that's
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: not even a big.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Deal to you.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Ant sort of could you imagine text somebody, Hey, make
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: sure you do that murder tomorrow by six?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: What on text?
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: It's sort of you know, I feel like it's a
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: phone call a dark alley, like Sandy taking just a
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: little bit going full seventy five to going full appliances. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: but these are but this is human life. So this
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: is just disgusting. So I'm gonna get through this because
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: we try to keep it light over here.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: So for Marcia, both the pressure and the links that
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: she and her colleagues went in order to maintain proper
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: numbers of dieing patients wore on her. Okay, finally, dummy,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and she began to question the work that she did.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, you begin to question it now, like it's
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: a little late, sist.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Hey, I sent a text the other day and I
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: didn't feel good about it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little scheve.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: So her coworker, Don Richardson, was also and she didn't
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: send the text. I was someone else, but still. Don
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Richardson was also a mother with a family, but felt similarly,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: and in two thousand and nine the pair discovered a
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: way out.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: So the way out.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: The two other nurses at another Southern hospice company had
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: accused their employer, Southern Care, of stealing taxpayer dollars by
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: enrolling in eligible patients in hospice. The company admitted to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: no wrongdoing but settled with the Justice Department for nearly
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars. The two nurses, being whistleblowers, received
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: four point nine million dollars of that sum. Okay, what
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not hearing is of the people who were tricked
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: into being hospice were paid, And why is the government
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: getting twenty five MILLI like, give that to the people
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: that were damages. Yeah, this is still a great I
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: hope there's a late night commercial happening where you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: somebody's like if you loved one was tricked and like
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: cause like yeah, yeah, saw where are you at? They
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: too contacted James Berger, a lawyer who had represented one
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: of the Southern Care nurses, so in March of two
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: thousand and nine, he helped them file a whistleblower complaint
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: against the Sarah Kare and its parent company, accusing the
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: company of Medicare for raud. For the following two years,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Don and Marshall were kept anonymous and the investigation, continuing
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to work at a Sarah Care while passing barger documents
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: and conducting their own investigations into ineligible patients. Their evidence, now,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: how are you gonna do? This is giving?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Like the police.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: We investigated ourselves and we found we did nothing wrong,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: because how the fuck you you know what they're doing?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: You started it? Yeah, yeah, you don't get to be
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: a hero here. Like I hope that you still have
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to do time because it's giving, like an anonymity and
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: like you started this ship Marshall.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I know I was doing this, but I didn't know
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: what I was doing.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just a baby, right your own ambitition. I'm I'm
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: just a little baby, y'all at a little murderer. Baby, no, no, no,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: no no. So their evidence supported the claims they and
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: others had made, including lack of focus on patient care
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and little discussion of eligibility and regular patient certification meetings.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: They're so beyond not even you know, enrolling the right people.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: They're not getting them the proper care. Now that really
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: pisses me off because at least, if you're going to
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: trick people into going to the hospice, it should at
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: least be nice.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: You get your bag, like, hey, well this will be
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: a trick, but also it'll be the worst thing they've
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: ever done.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: At least it's gonna be a trick. Let it be
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a tree.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Because like those situations too. I know that though a
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: lot of times the goal in hospice care is to
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: make sure that people are comfortable and like, but I
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: feel like more often than I hear the people like
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: didn't enjoy that experience. But also because it's it's just
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: hard on everybody.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Exactly, which is fucked up. Yeah, so kindical saft. We're
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: also found to be under trained with a high potential
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: for care delivery failures. So now they're just also hiring
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: anybody that they can in this bitch Like, yeah, you
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: get to your interview, right, you get It's like Craigslist,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: like great doors, great hours. All you need is scrubs apply,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: and by apply, we mean to show up and you
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: have the job?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Can you be present? Like? Those are the requirements?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Can you yeah? Do you uh care? Can you just
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: be here?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: You get here?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: You can start today right any bus lines close to
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: where we at, or you got a car like then
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: to this very this job that needs a lot of skills,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I'll come get you. We got we got a shuttle. Yeah, okay,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: y'all just pull up. We got scrubs. Actually, don't even
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: worry about that. So in twenty eleven, Marshall was found
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: out and put on paid leaf before leaving the company.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Hey leave this woman. Everything is coming over roses right now.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: But by that point, she and her team had a
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: massed enough evidence that the Justice Department had conducted their
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: own investigation into the complaint. The Justice Department proceeded to
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: seek two hundred million dollars in fines and damages, and
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: most expected a Sarah Carre to settle, as fighting it
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: could mean bankruptcy. But in twenty fourteen, Sarah Kare created
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: history by fighting the complaints.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Now this is just.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Wild to me, because again the Justice Department, where y'all
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: putting two hundred million dollars? Because it doesn't sound like
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: it's going to go back to the people. And also
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: like Sarah was like, bump that we fighting because Marsha
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: bitch as the one who started this year.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: She told us to do it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: We had no idea and Marshall was recruiting people and
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: being evil.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Let me just I think I left my phone the
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: other room real quick, get that quick.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Real quick. I'll be back. Sarah Kare just started screaming.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: The Justice Department was like, we're storm. I don't know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: They just screamed on the phone. You might work, it
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: might work.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: So the United States versus A Sarah Karer a trial
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: began August tenth, twenty fifteen, in Birmingham, Alabama, and marked
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: one of the most bizarreyet notable trials in the history
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: of hospice care.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: From the start.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Prior to the beginning of the trial, the firm handling
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: of Sarah Kare's defense had just hired.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: The judge's son as a summer associate. That's above board, Like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: do you want to enter mister judge's son.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: No, I mean we think you're the most qualified as
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: the judges son.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I gotta stop saying, judge your son just work.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: With can't wear your dad's robe to work.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and like, yeah, we're gonna call you not judge,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: you'r son when you come here.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, what are we gonna do? Your name is judge
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Judge's son.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Damn it? Why was she name with son? Judge's son?
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So almost immediately, Judge Karen Bowdary showed unprecedented favoritism towards
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the as Sarah Kare defense team.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Dang Karen, how you going? Karen knows herd how you
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: live up to the name.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Says, I didn't want to say it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: She was like, and also for an internship, you will
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: haul of Judge Carrey. You can't nipple your kids somewhere else.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: You gotta nipple him here.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: And you couldn't go outside for like a little bit.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look you Karen. Karen literally sleeps in a coffin. Okay,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: she loves she loves hospice, frid.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I think her lips are red because that's where her
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: blood is.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: That's because that's what she thrives on to survive. She's
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: just sucking on oh negative every day. It's not lipstick. Yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: So she's nice, she's not given nice. So Judge Karen
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: made unprecedented and restricted decisions as to what evidence was
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: allowed to be brought in and how the case would
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: be divided. Despite these obstacles, two months later, the jury
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: found eighty six percent of the patient samples ineligible for
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: some period of hospice care, which would make the other
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: part of the.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Trial much easier. So just a few days after, Judge
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Karen announced that she had made a major mistake and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: she was overturning the jury's findings and granting A. Sarah
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Krre's requests for a new trial.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: She said, I made a major mistake because y'all not
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: doing what I had said when I coerced the job,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Doing coercion, and nobody seems to really be coerced. So
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: can we start over? Run it back? Running back.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: This is like when you're playing like monopoly with like
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: your kid cousin who wants to change the rules and
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: when they start losing. Oh yeah, wait a minute, y'all
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: making fun of me. We got new terms of service.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: You don't making fun of me. For the public safety
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: of everybody.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: You can't no posts, no posts.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of tweeting happened on Twitter, and
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: we got to stop that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: You see me somewhere. You actually didn't though, Yeah, no,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: that's doc sing. If you see me somewhere, you say
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: where I am. Yeah, I don't care if I was
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: on TV. You can't tell nobody about that. So five
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: months later, Judge Karen awarded judgment to a Sarah Kaer
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: without completing the trial.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: So she was like, you know, let's just wrap this up.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: It's taken too long.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I'm bored of this.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I'm done with this. Okay, I'm
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: not even that person anymore. Yeah, I'm actually gonna go
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: into the sun.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so it wasn't until twenty how it hurts
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: doing it, And listen, if you're out there, you are
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: a pale girly.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I love a pale girly. Okay, she's just evil, Okay.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I stand behind my goth queen.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't until twenty nineteen that a retrial occurred,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: which resulted in a settlement for one million dollars paid
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: by Sarah Care. The original claim had been for two
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: hundred millions, so they got off scott bucking free. Because
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Judge Karen was out here griming all for her Sun's internship,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: she must have been getting paid behind closed.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Doors a judge, Lacey, you can't just say something like
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: that's never happened before, You're.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Right, she's a woman of the cloth. Okay, she takes
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that fabord seriously.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty, company was bought for two hundred
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: and thirty five million dollars by a Medicis, a company
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: facing its own similar charges.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: So now the crime companies are absorbing. We saw you
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: were doing that, and we do it too. So you
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: can buy you, y'all get away wet rod in the government.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: We'll buy you so because we also would too, like
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: where y'all got Judge Carroll number and her judge a son.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: You guys don't have receipts?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, good, great.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: So now, in twenty twenty two, a moratorium has been
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: placed on hospices in California due to an investigation that
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: was uncovered. It's uncovered thousands of for profit facilities with
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: fictional patients and staff. So now they were just like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you know what, fuck it instead of harming real life
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: human beings, let's make them up.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, oh now and now we're back to
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: improv aren't It's a bit and you know what.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I like this bit better because at least we're not
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: harming real people. And I would think it was hilarious
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: if like they the government starts visiting these for profit
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: hospice centers and they're like, why are all the bands empty?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, it was a bad day. Everyone died.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, else this was bad.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should see them work.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: They're like running around with a bunch of disguises and
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: be like, I'm this one.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: They're hiring people off gregs. It's like just lay in
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the bed.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Yeahst cough a little bit.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of y'all put out some owls. Yeah, a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: few hours when the government comes.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: We had the casting sheets for the extras on house.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: You know, as actors. I would I would do even
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I was just.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: At a tape for something recently where there are a
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: bunch of actors like in the audience for taping who's like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: y'all'll do anything.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Listen, And I love that for them. So they found
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: out that they're doing all this fried.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: There are few regulations or requirements to opening a hospice
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: in most states, which has led to instances such as
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: single addresses and Los Angeles being listed as having one
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty nine hospices owned by a professional landlord.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: So now these empty buildings in la they call them hospices.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Oh great.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: So despite this, each business is valued at six figures
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: and are constantly being bought in souls.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: This is full crime.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Between two twenty eleven and twenty nineteen, research shows that
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: a number of hospices owed by private equity firms tripled
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: and the quality of care has decreased in pe guys,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: so fucking bad. In twenty eighteen, the Office of Inspector
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: General at the Department of Health and Human Services estimated
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: that inappropriate billing by hospice providers it had cost taxpayers
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars. It's expensive to die in America,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: it's expensive to live in America. And a Sarah Caire
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: set the President that the companies are allowed to manipulate
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the process of passing away to meet their financial goals.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: There's no fucking way in hell that this should be
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: on the stock market, that there should be investors and
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: shareholders like this is a public service that we pay
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: taxes for, and private equity again swoops in and does
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: what capitalism does and puts a price tag on it
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: and just makes it the sickest shit in the fucking world.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: We're gonna soon be paying monthly. I mean, I guess
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: we do kind of rent and stuff, but like we're
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: gonna have a subscription service for life, Like, okay, you
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: want to live, it's ninety nine dollars aready.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Life is basically a streaming platform. Cancel, nope, and you
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: need to have all of them.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, look, if you want a piece of food,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you need Hulu Plus.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Now, if you want good foods, you gotta subscribe to
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: no ad. Yes, all right, you want medical care, but
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: you better get your Netflix.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: And like ads when you eat bad food is like
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: stuff that's like not good free.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nitrates and it's like chemicals. It's like if
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: you want chemical free, you got an upgrade. Yeah, you
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: gotta pay a little. Oh you don't want GMOs? Yeah,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: oh you don't want pesticides. Laurdchen Ones wrote an amazing
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: joke in Florida Girls that was like, we go to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: a rich person's house and I touched their avocados and
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I avocados and these are organic? That
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: mean you ain't got no poison on them.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: That's literally what it is. You have to pay to
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: not have poison. Yeah, that's an upgrade, no poison.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, you talk to poison.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: You got money. M King always ass is such ass.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: But if Sarah fuck y'all.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Y'all are terrible, and I can't believe that you got
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: away with this, Judge Karen and Judge's son, y'all are
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: terrible people.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: And I really do hope that every time you go out.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: In the sun, it's like a micro like a magnified
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: class to it, just sizzling. Yeah, okay, because that's what
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: you deserve. All Right, We're gonna move on to the
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: saddest part of the show, which it actually isn't today,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: because the samest part of this shit is these motherfuckers,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: like what pieces of goddamn just repugnant shep.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be able to honestly worse.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Than shit, because at least escremat has a purpose, you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that can madure, it can grow grass, and shit like
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: y'all are.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Worse than that.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: You should at the very least, at the end of
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: your life be guaranteed like dignity and yeah, and care
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: at least and for these.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: People, I wish that they would have to go to
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: a hospice, a bad one.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And when they pinch on you every day and don't
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: change your bedpant, you know, just little pinches on it
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: all get pinched.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get pinched just so much and just tormented.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Calendar. Every day is Saint Patrick's Day.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm not wearing any green.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: The only channel y'all you allowed to watch is uh
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: whatever that TV guide is hotels. Just Mario Lopez, but
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: the rest of your life. But he's describing all the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: shows beautifully and he looks gorgeous, but you never get.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: To watch any of them. Yeah, you know he's entertaining. Yeah,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that's my.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna deserve his dimples, you know what, just a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: fuzzy scream, like you go to a different input.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: It's Mario Lopez still, but you can't really see the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: definition of the dimple.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because then that leaves them wanting Yeah, like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I know he has it, yep, but you can't. Well
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: never let you see a bitch. Yes, you don't deserve it. Yes,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: So that brings us to the end of the show.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: But before we go, scammer of the week. This is
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: where we highlighted Honorary charlottean that's worthy of our praise.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Are maybe not like Marsha's bitch ass who got away
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: to Scott Free for my liking and Judge Karen's old
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: raggedy ass. But today we're talking about a former officer
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: of the Johnson County Sheriff's Office in Kansas. He's had
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: his police license revoked after he was caught trying to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: scam a store out of nearly four hundred dollars worth
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: of Pokemon card.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Okay, so actually he did nothing wrong.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I this is a very rare one for me.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: We don't we don't stand up for cops, but it's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I can't we.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: All host the video game podcast. I love Pokemon. This guy,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I'm turning the other way.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I had a Charie ard once that I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: got randomly out of a cereal box and now was
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: in charsars were worth like a lot of money, and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I like sold just to somebody who really was into
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: the pokes and made a coin in school, you know
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: And this is this is this is really just hard
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: for me as like a guy that like hates cops yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: it's just and loves Pokemon.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: This is really I mean, I wish more coch when
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: they say gott to catch them all. Yeah, if y'all
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: wouldn't mean black people, y'all, more of a would do
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: a Pokemon than trial.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: But you know what, maybe they sort of took the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: lessons of Pokemon and applied it to the Carsonals system
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: and that is sort of like, you know, that's they
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: maybe they got the wrong thing from it. Yeah, so
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: I have to actually do boo this man, and I can't.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we were tomato, Tomato tomato.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: William Knight, thirty two years old, quite young, had been
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: a full time cop with a depart meant since March
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen. He was in uniform buying groceries and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: a large number of Pokemon cars. When he was a round, well,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: he excusing when he aroused suspicion. I thought, I said
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: he was aroused at first, I said.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I just he's getting worse. This guy's fucking.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Hard putting holes. No. So, I mean some people say
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: that some of them are sexy. Okay, look that's a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: conversation for another day.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, some buck Mounts is bad bitches, Okay, so he
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: aroused suspicion of an in store asset protection investigator.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I love a cop getting taken down by a store cop.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like the audiacity they used to Like when
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: I worked at the store, they would just like chase
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: you through the store kind of and then once you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: get out the door, they're like, well that's where that goes.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where I came. You chased him to the edge
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: of the earth.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: They won't let me leave.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Is a strong word, I mean followed it a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: like a high paced walk because you know they can't
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: run good.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Also, it's interesting to me, like does an instat copy
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: have cuffs? Does he have to be like, hey, let
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: me borrow your cuffs.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: No, it's more of like you come here with me
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: situation and again to the back do it. Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just had to be like, no,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: have you ever.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Been caught at a grocery store in a loss prevention
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: situation and you went with them?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't go with them. I just feel like walk
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the other way, or maybe run start hollering yeah you know,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: or maybe put the thing back and be like, oh
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: my bad.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: This is mine. Try that.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I came with this. I came with this.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah you still got a bar code under it in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: a sister, But I came because I actually need to get.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: It taken off.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I bought this before. I didn't bring the receipt,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: the sticker it was stuck on it.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I just bought an air fire from targeting and it
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: had that little alarm sounding thing on it. I bought it,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: threw the self check out, and actually paid for it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Sandy got hell of airfires for the free
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: ninety nine shout out to you, queen, but I paid
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: for it. And then when I got out and I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: like cut the little censer off at home and it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: started making an.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Alarm and I was like, this is I'm at home. Yeah,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna give them no tips, y'all take
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the mare for everybody.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Ghost kitchen in her house with a bunch of air friers.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Year, and I love that for her.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: So the you know, the protection asked and investigators like, huh,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: mischief is afoot. So initially he tried to leave, saying
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: he had to respond.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: To a call. He was like, oh, I got a
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: two nine a cop cop thing happening.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: But Eventually, he admitted that he had swapped out the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: barcodes on the boxes for cheaper items.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, the cop told the truth.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: So wait, is that the first time that's ever happened?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Might be might be on record.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: So Night was reportedly arrested and booked into the Johnson
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: County Adult Attention Center on May thirteen, twenty twenty two,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: before he posted bond of twenty five hundred dollars. Twenty
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars for Pokemon cards is a lot, but
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: a cop going to jail.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, about what he could have pulled. He could have
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: pulled something big and then you know, one card could
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: have got him out free. Who knows.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: So he has since escaped criminal charges duh, though he's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: no longer employed as a police officer in Jefferson County
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: or anywhere else. So I will say this, you must
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: be like really unlikable to the police officers. Maybe they
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: didn't like a bitch ass. Maybe it was he not
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: fishing the microwave every lunch, like you were doing something
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: to get on the police officer's nurse.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Because they let murderers wholly come back.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: They let people who do murderers like murders on video,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: get paid, leave it, come on back to the Christmas
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: party as shit.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: But you got fired for Pokemon cars. Oh they didn't
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: like you. Was you fighting a lot? You ate a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: lot of bees? He was thinking up the meat in.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: A fucking dork. We can't have them work here, not
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: even that.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of cops are dorks, most cops.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the ways a cad.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: All cops are dorks. So if you got fired from
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the police, that means they really just you have bad vibes.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Oh you like rules, you fucking dork.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Right, Like, I'm confused. How do you get fired from
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: the police?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's we should send this to them the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: stories like, see, you can fire them, Yeah, they can
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: be fired.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: So maybe let's start firing them for the murders and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: for the harassment, because you fire somebody for Pokemon cards, bro, Like, yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: they didn't like his vibes. In a statement from his lawyer,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: it sayn't quotes. Unfortunately, in a time of severe stress
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: and anxiety, he exercised poor judgment, leading to his arrest
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: and charge. You know, the cop girlies loved to come at.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Us with a I was afraid, I have anxiety. I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: was afraid I wasn't gonna catch them all.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: What were you trying to fucking get like like that's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: like they're not that expensive. No, actually were binding him
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: in bulk. He's stole four hundred dollars worth four thousand
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: dollars worth, four hundred, four hundred.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: That's that's quite a bit. That's a lot of that's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety A boosters.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Listen if this honestly inspires me though, like this is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: the story that we need to start waiving these police
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: department spaces, because why are we letting cops literally get
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: away with murder but they can't get away with pokemon.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a success story. Kind It was like you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: can actually fire them, Yeah you should didn't know, they
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: just didn't know before, Like you get and we're actually
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: we could be helping him the.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Least thing I ever want to do. But all right,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you know that brings us to the end of the show.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And as we always ask on the show, Matt, where
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: would you like to be found any socials while they
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: still exist?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Say, this is a tough question to answer now Anyhow,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to be found on Twitter.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: The husk of my account is still there. I'm on
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: social media, I'll say as Matt Apodaca. You can find
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: me on the ones that exist.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, if I'm not there, maybe follow this playboy, follow
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: this big Man.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: Big Man, Playboy, maga do on all social medias. You
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: can listen to get played wherever you get your podcasts,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: and then our Patreon get Animated Patreon dot com slash
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: get played where we talk about anime stuff. It's a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: lot of fun, yes, and.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: It's always guys.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Stitch on, your friends, your family, your enemies, the police
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: and scam gouts pot at gmail dot com. Just make
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: sure this scam is retired because we don't want to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: fuck up your bag the police for sure.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Some names and photos and as always you can find
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: me at T I V A l A C.
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  Speaker 4: and maybe.
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  Speaker 3: This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco,
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  Speaker 3: Scam God his Stars, and it's hosted by me Lacy
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  Speaker 3: Mosley aka the scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Our producer is Judith Cargbo, our recording engineer as Abby Aguilar,
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  Speaker 1: and our audio editor is Jesse Karen. Research for the
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  Speaker 1: show is done by kaylen Brand Stay Scamming