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Episode 208 | Snake in de Balisier · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Wait till I reach on the road, wait till I get on on the stage, wait till you see me on the front page.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: You like it, you like it.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: You like it.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: Who like backhand all more than me?
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: Put your hands up.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: I let me see.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Who like backhand all more than me.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: Put your hands up.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: I let me see how much things I do this Saturday.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: I do this Saturday.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: I can handle more than it.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: Put your hands up, boy, let me see.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: How much time to do this already.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: I do this already.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: How much time to check my resume, to check my resume.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: See, I have no time and I have no space For this second guessing.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: I don't keep my blessing, I just take my grind All over the place.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: I have no space for this second guessing.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: I don't get my blessing, I just take my grind all over the place.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: And if you don't like it, I don't care, I'll be singing this.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, look me there.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: Hey, look me there.
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: I'll be singing this.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, look me there, hey, look me there.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: Everything gone.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: They singing hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: They look be dead, they look be dead.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Everything gone.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: It's all over.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Nothing left.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: Party over Everything.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Shut down for Reddit, reddit, reddit, reddit, reddit, reddit.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: Everything much up for Reddit, reddit, reddit, reddit, reddit.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: They see eyes on my scar mashing up the place.
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: Welcome to episode 208 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's about that.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: If you think that's it close, right, listen.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: I want to start by apologizing to cohen dubois once again.
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: Every chance I get I will take, because the other year I say, boy, the biggest fall off was cohen dubois.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: Until a man point out to me all the kind of song cohen dubois sing that I be singing along to a meme noise, cohen, with disrespect, level of disrespect.
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to all the new, or welcome to all listeners.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in.
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: Just remember we'll be here.
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: I used to say real bright and early every Tuesday morning, right, but somewhere in the week here we got a new episode.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: One day we'll be back to the levels of consistency of COVID times and so on, but for as long as there are no COVID man, I'll go to work and all kinds of different things.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Obstacles.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we come to talk.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can name this episode obstacles.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I want to talk about first, because here was your rundown of topics.
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: Here was your rundown of topics.
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: We had to talk about Marshall and the tiny desk A big, big, big, big desk, but some people tried to tiny it up.
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: We had to talk about Trinidad Killer and Marshall, like it's just a Marshall episode, but I want to start.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: I want to start.
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: I want to start with this.
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it wouldn't be here according to Cohen Dubois, the great Cohen Dubois, who like Bacchanal more than we.
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: I would like to start with the politics.
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: Hold it in mind for nearly a year straight I changed from my original format when I used to do I to do it like the, um, like the, the TTT news.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: Rest in peace to Jones P Madera, legendary man.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: Right, I used to do it like how them fellas do it, because them fellas used to come, take the biggest news of the day in the politics and the, the, the socioeconomics and them kind of thing, and then they go go into the sports news and then they go talk a little bit about the culture in the end.
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: But you know what they did the news.
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it gets so heavy that I flipped the whole script on the on the podcast.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: But only wouldn't mind if I just go back to um, to some old days and just do it.
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: Do it how we used to do it back in the day, because the little tory so hot, I see people vex, I watching all kind of people who is doing news, blogging and things you know.
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: And people was very, very upset PNM folks you know what I mean and the what do you want to call them the non-biased, middle-of-the-road, balanced reporters and so on Was very, very upset the other day Because people saying Rowley retiring, they come out and they went against that.
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: They say Stuart Young is who we play next.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: They went against that.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: They say da-da-da-da-da-da, and there are leaks in the PNM and they don't want it.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: And then they say Amory Brown is the man to take over for Rowley, indigo Martin West Boy.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: They had the news bloggers in a tizzy saying oh, the Guardian, this and the Express that he's the man to replace Rowley in Dago Martin West.
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: And, as usual, once you come here, even though we start with heavy news, we are tuned for heavy news, right?
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: I want to invoke the doctor.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: And then write him a letter.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: I want to ask him a question If he knew what was going on the other day.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: I was passing.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: I hear people complaining.
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: He's the man with the answer, but he's quite over.
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: Yonder they say Snake in the valley Zayn, Snake in the valley snake, Snake in the valley snake, Snake in the valley snake.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: And they bite you hard.
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: Snake in the valley.
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: Snake, sorry for training hard Like who?
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: So If you don't know the voice, that's the voice of the man, winston Bailey, right?
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: So clearly it's a snake in the belly Because I hear the Prime Minister say well, who to call the Prime Minister?
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: I heard Dr Rowley say the other day that, well, it's a little leak and it's a little thing again, because you know what I mean.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: Now, every time you have an idea, it's on social media.
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: Alexa know what you're thinking, siri know what you're watching, google know where you're going.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: They have you under wraps.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: So clearly the PM did not do a great job of hiding the plans for this retirement and what the handover is supposed to be.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: But I can tell you this whoever was leaking the information, they do a solid job.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: All the people who they I don't know if they're hired to play defense, but I see some people in strong defense of the PNM and when news come out that turn out now to be true, people say the media host of it against the PNM.
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I remember the days when Gladiator and Umbala was on one station versus the next and Gladiator came out and said God bless his soul Gladiator Come out and say he gained $20,000 a month to defend.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: I also remember a man by the name of Robert Amar.
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: Salute to the great Robert Amar.
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: Right, you're supposed to know that name.
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: I remember him interrupting a broadcast when an announcer was.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: Was he bad talking?
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: A party member?
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Was he refusing an interview with somebody from the UNC?
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: And Robert Amara interrupted and said no, no, you can't say that.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: You can't say that because that's how we're paying all of you.
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: You're not making money to pay all of you.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: The idea that paid participants are in the media, in the traditional media, tells me that.
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: And when I say traditional media, I mean if they have paid political participants in the newspapers and the radio stations in them time top broadcasters was paid men.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: It had nothing to make me believe that news bloggers and so on is not paid political participants.
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: There was an artisanal.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: I see now that everything's settled, people taking a little rest, people posting a lot less.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: But last week we leave here and we was talking about the PNM and who's going to be the next leader and Stuart was there and the vote.
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: Stuart, he left nine, but then they couldn't get his signatures from the nine because the nine was upset and so on.
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: One thing that I find real stand that fine rail, stand out here right as I look at a article from the guardian here that says pnm closes ranks after balize house meetings.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: First I watch my boy, ansel dennis.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: I wanted to vote for ansel dennis immediately because when they come, you know akash coming in attack mode or the media definitely coming to catch them and fluster them, which is part of the media work.
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: The media work is to get the real story first right and if it mean attack mode or being sweet or whatever you had to do to get his story, we appreciate them getting his story right.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: But until dennis did not look flustered, he didn't look rattled and in the same way like when, uh stuart, he had to snatch back the mic from fitzgerald behind the other day, he didn't completely ignore them, like how fitzgerald Hines ignored him when they asked him a question about the lawyer who would have been murdered when he was walking out.
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: Um, was it Magdalena, or whoever?
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: Pnm had their convention, whatever they call it.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: Uh, he, he stand up and he answer the questions and he say well, this is a standard, so so, so, meeting that PNM has have once a month and, according to the constitution of the party, this is normal and, yes, the leadership will come out, because there's an issue today, but it's a standard meeting that we have all the time.
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: It's me so I I say but ansel dennis is a man they should be playing, because the man seemed properly well media trained and you know he might have it completely together.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: But little did I know that the pnm calling a whole media specialist.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know who they call and me know who they get to talk so sweet and to get all the people in the pnm, every single one, whether yours for against your young or your four against roly, because clearly it has some snake in the ball.
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: Is there, at least I mean, shadow paper, snake in the ball.
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: Is there right?
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: But there was some where where's the good word for that?
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: Discontention?
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: There was.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: Some people wasn't happy inside the pnm about how my leadership being handed over and who getting prime minister, and are we automatically choosing a political leader?
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: And we start to hear talk about the political process and whether it being followed and so on.
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: But what I'll tell you is, whoever the media specialist is that the pnm calling, I want to get in.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: I want them to come and help train me on how to talk to people and you know how to do this podcast and do a better job at it.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: Because they were outside of Balize House last week I want to say Tuesday or Friday, and after I don't cast, I don't stay in my finger until Dennis is a new political leader, prime minister, I want him for president.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: After I see how well you take the question, little did I know that this thing was well planned out and orchestrated.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: Every single person who came up in front of the, in front of balize house, was interviewed, had the exact same talking points uh, renuka, sukai sukhal, sorry, same same answer.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: She give the man who I like the most I I saw the interview Faris Al-Rawi same exact answers.
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: Amri Brown come in and say and I want to know if PNM have a Pantone color, red that they choose for their jersey, because not everybody was in a PNM jersey.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: Amri Brown in a polo jersey.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Renuka in a little blouse, a little shirt, you know, but everybody red, looking the exact same way.
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: That's impressive.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: If it had snake in the belly they'd kill all between last week and week before and every snake head get cut off because everybody come out as one accord and say this is a standard.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: I thought it was Anthony Dennis, alone Me and all the other men talking points and everybody say what it is there to say.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: But the man who I really like is Ron Sinanan.
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: Ron Sinanan, come with his scissor Me and all the liquor.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: Ransinanan.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: Ransinanan, come with his scissor Boy me know what kind of liquor you have in your cup, but no, he ain't no iced tea in there, that ain't no half and half.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: He come with his liquor and he don't know where this thing going.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: You know the people who I call them older, but they've been around a long time.
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: They see many, many changes and they've been around the party a long time.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: There may be no fanfare and things.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: You know when other younger ministers and you know players who knew and seen this for the first time may be coming in.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: You know the jump out of the car prepped for the media.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: My boy Ron come out shaking his glasses, like my eyes melting.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: You know this is a normal meeting, nothing different.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: The PNM is a constitution, institutionally strong party and a well-formed institution.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: That men come out with talking points and coming over the talking points, let me read what gail alexander he say here from the guardian a show of solidarity at bali's house for the spain last night, whether it will hold up over the next 48 hours.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: Some of them some of them in the guardian and some of them vexing, some of them vex some of these people in the media really holding on to hope that they have some kind of crumbling within the pnm.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just for the sake of a story or for you know, I saw some media people in the states kind of want to say like they're hoping trump wouldn't, because it was kind of boring under biden and now they were, I think, the top one for the next four years.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: So I get a sense that, uh, because when they see them come out I don't know what could have given the impression that it would not have held up over the last 48 hours.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Because when penny was leaving, who was the contender or the number one contender against 30 young uh, and leaving there after 11, 9 in tobago.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Now they leave the night, 20, zip, hard luck, shadow with a snake talk, no snake, any balize.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: And you know what's funny, them men inside Balize House, the media outside, waiting for the longest, while Every single person I see.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: When they went for the what is called a general council meeting, everybody was in red and thing.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: But when it was time for this meeting, where they seem to be finalizing this thing, everybody wear their clothes, men suit up.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: It is clear to me that when they came out of this meeting where they stood young and got the blessings, they were, they were, they were, they were in those photos already.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: They come out for that Because all they could do, all which you all probably did, all they congratulated and everything.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: I hear poor Camille Robinson-Riggis went wrong for signature.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: All they didn't, all inside, not one of the thing the woman said.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: They said they're not signing nothing camille bring to sign.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: She can't get his signature to pass to the president because apparently for him to hand over to, uh, the president, they needed a signed letter, I guess from all the mps on the pnm side, basically a show of solidarity and support, to go and tell the president like, like, hey, I retire, I retire in an office and I put in this man as prime minister.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: But they never get nothing.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Because man has to negotiate.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Deals are to make, deals have to be made.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: So them men didn't just congratulate one another inside balize house as they would have, or on the whatsapp groups.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: Or when they signed with camille, because they went into this meeting clearly knowing what they was gonna vote and everything settled.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: But they make sure they come out on the pavement the picture in this article I read in here, when they signed with Camille, because they went into this meeting clearly knowing what they was going to vote and everything settled.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: But they make sure they come out on the pavement.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: The picture in this article I'm reading here Stuart Young is holding on to nine Gatsby, dolly tight.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: A man tell me, like Stuart, get everything Rowley had when he retired.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: He leave everything with him.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Hold on tight.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: So Hold on tight.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Faris Alrawi hugging up the next one on the next side, everybody.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: And it is clear to me, right, it's clear to me Our next hug happening here with Terrence Dielson and Marvin Gonzalez Are we embracing?
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Who knows Foster Cummins?
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: You know All the main players and all the people who they say, because Foster was going on, everybody come out and hug up one another.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You know what it remind me of late in the night, this meeting done and the media waiting for them.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: It remind me of the last scene in the first godfather, if I only remember, first godfather right, the first godfather starts off with michael colioni, who was al capone, uh, pacino, of course I'll say Al Capone.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Al Pacino was a young son and Marlon Brando was the godfather right.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: And very early in the movie Marlon Brando gets shot up and so on.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: He gets shot, they ambush him, that was the, that was.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: That was all kickoff things in the movie, when they start understanding the mob and how they move.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: They move, they come and they shoot the Godfather and then the oldest son get in charge and then they kill Santino.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Good, good, sonny, sonny get hasty and go on and get set up and get killed.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: So Michael, now the youngest of the sons, step up and say well, he will take it because he has some military training.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: They don't know who is he.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: He go, you know what I mean.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: He went and deal with Salazzo.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: He killed the police chief.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: He went and deal with that right, went I think it's sicily for a little while and then come back.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: When he come back, now he's godfather.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: And in the end of the movie you see everybody come out and kiss the rings.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean that's him kiss the rings and call him godfather, just where the movie started.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Because the movie started off in a wedding where marlon brando was being greeted by everybody and saying you, you know, people refer to him as Godfather and the day of his daughter's wedding he had to grant every favor for people.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: It ends just that way, where everybody recognized Michael Corleone as Godfather.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: A better script could not be written.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: This whole PNM saga over the last, if you want to call it, the last month, or what probably for people who are PNM insiders would have been over the last five, six years, was clearly a re-taping of the Trinidad Godfather Part 1.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Trini Godfather Because nobody can tell me, me and on that modern meeting and I don't know how it's going, but for 11 people to vote for and nine to vote against, and then nobody don't want to sign just the day after, and then they had to go in what is not an emergency meeting, because it was made very clear by every single MP.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody say there's not an emergency meeting, there's not a normal meeting, yes, it will come up.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And then to come out of that meeting with a resounding 20 zip.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: For Stuart Young tells me.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: It tells me a couple things right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: So you want some bold predictions.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I think a cabinet reshuffle is coming soon.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Sooner than you could procure Fed tickets for things like Adrian Schoon parties and Scorch parties and Julius Caesar and so on, parties.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Faster than you could procure them tickets.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: A cabinet reshuffle coming, people going to get what they want, because people bargain for what they needed to bargain for, even if it's for this little two, three months.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Remember one of these men when this bargaining thing was attorney general, like next to the prime minister.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Everywhere you go when this man was elected, when pnm was elected, you couldn't see rollers without seeing faris al rawi.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: That man was like ring on finger and then he get almost like banished the local government.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Because the negotiation and this thing, if before the men come and kiss the rings, I think is for who gonna be minister housing, who gonna get uh thing like attorney general, of course, who gonna get minister of finance, who gonna get minister of health, all them kind of deals being made inside it, because of course, if you put me in charge, I had to bring in my own people who I know and love and trust and so on.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: But I I'm sure those deals were made.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: So I expect to see a little bit of a cabinet reshuffle.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: If, if men like a heinzy because nobody in hog up heinz when they come out the place nobody was hugging heinz, you know what I mean?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Me no views them, but it is clear that that come in.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: We want predictions about an early election too.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: If I was still young.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Right, let me talk straight.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about political strategy, right, but from a marketing standpoint, I see kamala harris make a fundamental mistake when she was running in the states, which was, as I said, when they ask her about what she would do, different from Biden, she say not much.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I come in to do the same thing, even somebody who is incumbent.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: If you are the sitting prime minister and you're campaigning, you ought not to go there and tell people hey, I'm going to do the same thing I was doing before, you know, because that will give your political enemy being the opposition in this case, or even some of your doubters, being an independent man like me, who nobody don't have my vote I will be saying but wait, you're going to do the same thing you was doing before, my mind as an independent.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: As an independent, my mind will first go to the murder.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: All the bad things I'll be with.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing we in for.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I looking at all the housebreaking, all them types.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I will look to the bad things because I want some of them bad things to dissipate and disappear and I want to live in a place that's safe.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: So, whatever is the biggest problem, I have it as a, as a voter.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: When you come out and say yeah, same old, same old, reelect me and we'll go along these same lines, my first thing is hey, we have things to fix your cash.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So, even as the, you ought to come out and say well, all focus is on this All thing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: You have to share a vision as to how you will make the place.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: To make the place better, like our business reviews with clients this week, I wish I would show up in a client meeting for a business review.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: To me, when somebody asks for a business review, my first thought is be all right, let me talk about what we did, what we were able to accomplish last year, where we fall short, where we are now and what we're going to do to remedy some of those things for next year.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I can't go and tell a client, well, same thing, nothing new.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I mean it don't work, so it don't work, so it don't work, so Nothing imperfect.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: You can always find ways to make things better.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So I was surprised when Kamala Harris and maybe the question caught her off guard.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But I mean, how are you going to come out and say same old, same old.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And it's part of my fear for Stuart Young.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Now, congratulations to him.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: As I said last week, I like the fellow.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I find his sober tongue, sober mind and so on.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I like people who have it a little bit together when it comes to the, the, the um, the representing the country, the diplomacy and thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I think that is one of the most.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: That's not the only thing right, but that is one of the most important things for me when I'm looking for somebody to vote for right.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: So I wish him all the best.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean I, I, I think he will do well, I hope he does well and I think all the people is a cycle right, all the people who real hopeful about him and real like him right now, maybe like myself.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You go here.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You go here one, two, three years past.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So it's an unforgiving job.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: It's a brutal world.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: You can't do nothing right, you know I mean.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: But at least he's a sober mind and a sober tongue.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I like, I like that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Pause, I like that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Put him in there and let me see what he could do.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Somebody had to do the work right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It ain't with me and, if you're listening to this, it didn't go with you neither, because you wasn't going to be prime minister.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So I think we had to be grateful for the people who are there, regardless of how I might think about them or talk about them.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: But one of the first things I would want to do if I were him was to chart the course for what the trend out on Tobago that I am going to govern is going to look like, not today, but in the future.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Where's my policy?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Where's my stance?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Where's my?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Remember I talked about it last week your vision, purpose and your mission.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I was talking to a friend recently who now start her mba and she one of the first courses they're doing is business strategy, and one of the first thing they teach you in business strategy is you must know where's your vision on your mission, on your on mission and your core values, like where you want this business to be, where what you're gonna do.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: You can't go in there when it's out of ceo before they put you in the ceo position and you're just upset and say, well, hey, I just gonna continue what he was good.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Nobody don't want to hear that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: You also can't go in there and say, hey, this last man who always said there was a waste of time and always put me under real pressure.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I hope that Stuart Young does not go in there to talk about no UNC and what UNC.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: But let me stay away from that now.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Unc was 10, 15, 20 years ago.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: We are good.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Whatever they say, they do right, they do that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Let me move forward with what it is and for that reason, from a marketing standpoint, one of the first things I would do, especially while we under a state of emergency.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Right, I have a little bit to talk about gary griffith today.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something I like about gary griffith before I tell you what to do about stuart here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Gary griffith is quote his figures as being the police commissioner with the lowest murder rate or the lowest crime rate or the most control over crime.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Fully well, knowing that some of the years he quotes in, there was under times where it had a state of emergency during covid and nobody could move, nobody.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: If you wanted to kill somebody, you can't leave home to kill them, you know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: So I say you had to settle your debts later on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: You can't go on no scene to kill no man, and you know I mean the man had covid.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Now you kill the man, now you're dead from the COVID too.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Couldn't happen.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And he's talking about that as if and you know what.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you where he writes about that Many, many, many people will forget when he continues to quote them figures.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: They're going to forget that it's COVID times.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You will just hear it and I guarantee you one day you'll have a whole group of people come up and say, people who come up and say, boy, that man had the lowest crime rate, boy, 2021-2022.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And them go forget clean that it had covid during them times.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Only we will live through that and some of we go forget too.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: So, taking a page out, a guy griffith book right who just quote the figures when he quoted steve, is going to be or is prime minister or going to be.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it officially yet he gonna be prime minister at a time where you have a state of emergency and once again we have one of the lowest crime.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: If you look at the crime statistics for January, we already what we had today.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: We smacked dead in the middle of January Sorry for the pun right in the middle of January here and we're already on target to have one of the lowest crime rates ever in a January well, not ever, but in a long, long time since the crime situation turned out to be.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: We get bad.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You're seeing where we're on target.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: As I recorded this, they already signed the extension for the SOE, so that SOE going to continue.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: They really didn't need the opposition help but they had the debate and so on.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But the debate might be ongoing still, but they're going through the process.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Let me just read here to make sure I ain't reading the wrong thing the young defense legal process to declare SOE.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Energy Minister Stuart Young said yesterday the country was fortunate to have a sober Prime Minister who was able to lead the Cabinet.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Responding to Parliament's opposition criticisms about proximity of the Prime Minister party in Tobago to the declaration of the SOE and about the government being unprepared, young said when the decision was taken by Cabinet.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: In the wee hours of the morning, just after midnight on December 30thth, a cabinet note had to be prepared and draft proclamation were prepared for the president for the presentation to the president.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Uh, this got to the president at 1 37 am on the morning of december 30th, whether events were taking place in tobago or not.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: So this was him defending it, but I'm not sure exactly where they are on debate.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: But I expect that if it's not done already, the sou will be extended.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: As I said last week and I hear many, many people saying the same thing as the regular citizen, I'm not feeling like we in a state of emergency.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: The sense of emergency is not there.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: The sense of urgency is not there.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You're seeing some licensing officers on your road and police and stuff.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: But even after, after recording last week, I had to ask myself, when I see the crime figures, maybe this is a good thing.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Or I had to ask myself, like I'm saying, I ain't seeing it, I ain't feeling it right, but me, I'm not criminal.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Should we, as the law-abiding citizens who go into work every day, clocking your card in and out and so on, doing what you have to do?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: You're going about your normal business.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Should we really be inconvenienced, bothered, whatever, by a state of emergency that is to deal with a specific or localized situation or dealing with a localized group, right, whether the localization is geography or a localized mindset or doctrine, like a gang or whatever it is.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: That is what they're responding to and I saying it and we saying it, hearing people on the radio calling and saying like, hey, this ain't feeling like no state of emergency.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: But it's clear that the people who have criminal intent, who would have already been on 30, 40 murders for the year and so on, in any give me year you would have had that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: You know, I've sometimes double and into what's tripled the amount of murders in a month, almost like at two a days, you know.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And football teams say they're practicing twice a day.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, you're not seeing that same thing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: You're seeing a january where the crime situation it almost leads me to a stopping just shorter, soon.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe they should just extend this, this state of emergency, as far forward as they could.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Let me.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Let me cool down this situation because I mean, I wasn't here, but what I see in december from reading the news was real bad, I mean, and, and we've had many weekends where we had to come and talk about very, very murderous weekends and those types of things.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So, uh, for those reasons I would think, like you ride the wave of this low crime rate, people go, forget that it's because of the soe.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: People don't forget.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: We're nice, iso, you're ready and you set out what your vision is for the thing, first as a leader and so on, and call elections.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Call the elections will do a few things, not just for the national or the general public.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And again, this is one where everybody I know who know anything about politics saying there's a dumb move that will never work and so on.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And you see what happened to Manning last time.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: He called an election and they should ride till november.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: But my thought is that while things looking and they're not looking good now, but they're looking better than they ever were we have somebody, brand new people, kind of the reasonable person.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And call the reasonable person not a pnm or not a unc, the reasonable person now sitting waiting to hear what stuart young will say.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: If the reasonable person is anything like me, if I am to be a representative sample of the reasonable person, I was kind of waiting to hear camilla say well boy, my enemy gone.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I gone too, you know, I mean I gonna, I going home, but like this woman, she ain't tend to leave.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: But the reasonable person waiting to hear okay, well, my hair was stuart young gonna say.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: The reasonable person waiting to hear okay, well, let me hear what stuart young gonna say.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: The reasonable person also saying more of the same from the pnm, just a different.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: You remember this statement if you put a crapper in a bali's a time, some people saying why listen, is the pnm where you could get?
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: But at least there's somebody new.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: We're waiting to hear what you have to say.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I heard I would have go the marketing alone.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I know some political strategy I coming out there, I reshuffling cabinet, I'm making sure my cabinet looking young and hopeful.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Well, in this case, I'd have delivered on the promises I uh, uh, uh, the promises I make, right, so I'll put virus back as attorney general, I suppose you know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, if that is one of the promises I make, I gotta put penny wherever she want to go.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I want to put um foster commons wherever he want to go, you know, and and make that change so that now I have a team of people who looking young, fresh and clean, like we know the heart of the scene, you know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And once I do that and I set my standard for what I expect this country to look like, and so on, I extend my soe and thing boy when only reach my morning from soaker and only soaking, wet and only head bad, only getting an election day to know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: If it's me, I call that because I can't afford to hang around for so long that the the steam of the soe died on or the soe call off and then things get bad.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Where crime is concerned, which was one of the major, one of the major issues that people voted based on is the confidence in the next person to come here and deal with this crime situation.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Right, and if I could just distance myself from the last person who there's a little, rolly and everything, enjoy your retirement.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: If I stood up, I probably can't come and say, well, rolly's a waste of time, he was the boss, I just had to do what he say.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: But I could certainly distance myself from him by coming out and say hey, election, new brand, new vision for pnm, new vision for the party, new vision for the country, like in in marketing, right there, like brands, go through this process.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Sometimes we have to rebrand.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Sometimes something would.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's something that happened in public space or the, the opinion, or the way you call brand position right, how people feel about your brand compared to how they feel about the competitors of your brand.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Something happened and it forced us to rebrand and it's really the same company and the same brand, sort of putting a stopgap and distancing itself from its past.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You would have seen it before, because the, the logo that kia uses now is not the same logo that they were using five years ago and it's not the same logo that they were using 15 years ago or 20 years ago.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Kia has rebranded and and doing refreshes to the brand all the time, you know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have no doubt that pnm and unc would do the same thing over time to just update the look of the brand and it might seem like a simple thing to do, or simplistic, you know, but marketing is all about the impression that the product will give you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Right, you can't think about it like this.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: You go grocery.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I had to be the most impressive ketchup on your shelf before you taste the damn ketchup.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I had to be back.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Coca-cola is the most impressive soft drink on the shelf Before you taste the Coca-Cola.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: The brand had to look a certain way.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: It had to appeal to the people who were there and it had to stand out against the other people who were next door.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So my first port of call, if I was Stuart Young, would be to do a rebranding so that you see the snake and the balisé and all that talk about.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: But I ain't saying necessarily lose the balisé, because you know history and those things.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You can't come in and you will deeply offend.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I done hear the interview Twiggy, and Twiggy say the PNM had to learn to respect black women.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: You know you can't disrespect the people who were there for you, for the party legacy, right, and the older heads in the party and the people who've been around for a long time.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: But you could certainly do a little refresh and update in terms of the look and feel of not just the people who are in shuffle in the cabinet but the look and feel of what the pnm is and who you're trying to appeal to.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I find the safest bet in this world is to always appeal to youth and, uh, expose them to a product that helps them to see themselves as hopeful, expose them to leadership that helps them to unlock the best potential in themselves, expose them to people who are living examples of what I could do with my life, coming from wherever I come from.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: All the people who in power now are talking government side and opposition side.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: All of them have stories to tell about their background and where they come from and what they overcome and what they were able to do and accomplish, whether it's through education or business or just plain old hard work or the political life or what.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody have this story to tell where those things concern.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So to me it's not.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It's not very different if you, if you want to stop a crime situation in the short run, you call a soe and you get everybody to sit down and behave yourself and everybody stay home and you put army and thing in place.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: But that is not a long-term solution to crime.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: That that cannot work for crime in the long term.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: If you want to solve crime in the long run, one of the things we have to do is to restore hope and youth in the system.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: You gotta get youths to trust that the system, the, the legal system, allows them to do better for themselves and accomplish the goal.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: It's not about how much money you make or how much.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Maslow had a thing in my hierarchy of needs.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: You know maslow say you have physiological, then you have safety.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Then I think you say you, you have physiological, then you have safety.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Then I think you say you have belonging, and then you have esteem, and then you have self-actualization.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Every parent want their child to self-actualize.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Every little child is grew up dreaming of being something.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: But one of the issues you have in Trinidad and Tobago now is that dreams is get killed real fast, sometimes physically real kill.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just lost hope because the education system is treated like a dunce.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: If you can't go and learn in the traditional way, the sporting system destroy you if you're not absolutely exceptional and your parents can't spend a set of money behind you to do things.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: So if the loudest voice and the most inspiring voice for you, coming from somebody named Iron Mike, who in a building all your life and have X amount of pounds of gold and millions of dollars worth of jewelry and that is where you get to be your first sign of hope in our community Then we're going to need to live in a state of emergency for the rest of our life.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying We'll never come out of this state of emergency.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So I expect my bold, bold prediction.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: My bold prediction is that, uh, I feel like the likelihood strong that we're gonna get a little um and me.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I hear nothing from nobody.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Let me make that very, very clear.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of those um.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not as connected as the uh, the news bloggers and things only know.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: The reason this thing name after me and it's on the next name is because everything I talk about here is really simply my opinion.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: If you do good, god would follow you, and if you do bad, your journey is hard.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You're always in war with your conscience.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It's squeezing you up like a tight pants.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: You're always in war with your conscience.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: It's squeezing you up like a tight pants.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: You could be living in a den of luxury.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yet you're always unhappy.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You go to your bed on your lovely mattress.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: You're dying to sleep, but you can't find a rest.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: No rest, no rest, tossing about like a leaf on the bed, the wrong things you do like a bomb in your head moving on now to on the same topic, but the next side of the divide, right, kamala calls pnm's backing of stuart as future pm vulgar and obscene charade.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: What will you expect, you know?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Let me hear what she had to say now.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Opposition leader kamala has described the pnM's General Council meeting as a vulgar and obscene charade aimed at hoodwinking a desperate and traumatized nation into believing that unity was achieved among the lazy, greedy, incompetent warring members of the Prime Minister, dr Keith Rowley's government.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: The UNC leader said the coronation of Energy Minister Stuart Young it looked like a coronation in Trudeau has been a nail in the cross for democracy in the party, the party's ongoing soap opera of chaos and incompetence.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: In a press release issued yesterday, assad Bisesa said that the fact that Rawley had to call his Warren ministers to a General Council meeting on Saturday to heal over his highly questionable coronation of Stuart Young showed his PNM government had virtually collapsed under the weight of an internal power struggle.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: If this is a collapse, I want PNM level collapses in my life.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean the most stable collapse, them fellas and them this is turmoil in PNM language, you know, because I ain't know what them have inside of there when them close them doors and ballies their house.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Me ain't know if man is having a hand wrestling or man had to cough it out or what this happen inside there, but somehow, no matter how, as Shaddle says, snake in the belly, no matter how much time that happened, them men is kind of emerged at a united front.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I want to have that level of diplomacy, negotiation, all that kind of thing in my life.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Is this you waiting on the issue of 21 MPs who pledged their support for Young as Prime Minister.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Rowley must know that, regardless of who he coerces in the PNM General Council meeting to select as their leader, the party is destined to lose the next general election Due to all the MPs and ministers' collective disastrous and deadly tenure in government.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I like that Young received full support from PNM MPs to succeed Rowley after a week of turmoil in the party following the party's recent revival.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: All in all, that already right.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So Kamala is unhappy and I'm shocked.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I'm flabbergasted.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought that the opposition leader would not support the change of the guard in the PNM?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I thought she would be inspired of the God in the pyramid.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I thought she would be inspired.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I thought as a woman inspired, and so on.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Now is such a good time.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I used to use Michaela Panday as my example of somebody who they should hand over, or somebody young, closer to the UNC side.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: You know, her father was Basdil Pandey and she was part of the UNC at one point in time and she was going to form her own party and I kind of used to use her as an example of somebody who you could put.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean I said, but look, a young person like this, so vibrant, the experience of her father and so on, the good, good name, name of pandey.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: But it's only true, right, it's only true.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: They're between me and you.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I don't make nobody wise, but I watch a podcast with michaela pandey and some young ladies talking the other day, right and boy, let me tell you something.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Them talk about the internet, like we in 1993.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: You see, well, there's the internet and we communicate now.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Most people communicate on the internet now and what the police should do is have an internet.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: And if they have the internet, then you can make a report in one station.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Makilo can't help me already.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Where have you been?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: She clenched.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So I would like to revise my statement Because I like to come here and talk about you, but I talk about you under the assumption that, with gate and so on, we have a proper young, very bright, eager people come out.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I mean michaela, and then again I'll stop.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I like, maybe I'm talking about michaela, thinking of myself as one of these youths too.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You, you know what I mean, but I hear them with a look.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: I watch about 10, 15 minutes of that podcast dialogue and I keep thinking to myself, hey, will you read anything Like?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Will you just Google anything?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Will you watch YouTube or something?
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Will you watch on TikTok?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Anybody do anything before I start talking?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Will you record this conversation?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I find like I come to talk, I don't talk about nothing serious.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and I spend hours just reading up trying to figure out.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Well, all right, who say?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: What about this?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And these people talking as if them now discover the internet.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: What is this people talking about?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Get online reporting in police station, and you know maybe, online reporting in police station and you know maybe what turned me off about it the most is everything in the interviews.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: My father did this and my father put that in place.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Mom, your father put that in place in the 90s.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Up to date yourself if you want to be the next politician.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: But whoever, whoever they have maybe Saddam Hussein the more.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I can't take the contentiousness.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: All I know is a man don't like confrontation, don't like lackery, don't like backing up only for the purposes of entertainment, right, but I kind of like what I see of the work ethic.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I think I saw them saying give one of them youth men anything and inspire your base and inspire the undecided voter to look at two new people in this election and fool we, not fool we.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Fool we into thinking we gain some kind of new regime, pnm.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Looking like they're on route to trying to fool we.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Only fool we on that side to not.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Don't let it be.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: You comes, let me celebrate you now, let me come here and do a dedication episode to you and how great it was and what you do for the country and so on.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Talking about a man who step away from well seems, seems to have been making his way away from the mudslinging and the tongue lashing type of politics.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Gary Griffith, mathieu Rowley, is making history.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I vote for very frivolous things, you understand.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think much could change in this country whether you and CP and any one of them in power is the same like a lock lock to me.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: So I vote for very frivolous thing I might have.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Most of my vote for the last three years has been based on what I want to come and talk about here on the podcast.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I just I voted for entertainment purposes, but I like him.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Gary griffith alone.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I like him, this new guy griffith.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I talked about him last week and his response to roly.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I like him.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Where he going here.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you what you say.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Who's this by?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: This is by.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I read in here from richard khan, from the newsday.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Griffith says leave young stepdaughter out of politics.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Uh, no, granted, let me.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Let me say before I go to find this right.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: He also come out and say the young stepdaughter is his family too.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: So I'm starting to see where maybe these people connected in a way, and maybe this is why Gary changing his tone a little bit, but I do like the new tone down version If that is a thing of Gary Griffin.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: National transformation Alliance political reader Gary Griffith is urging the public to stop using young stepdaughter as ammunition and casting aspersions against him in the uh.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: As the common prime minister, he must find a way to use ammunition or guns in every statement he makes.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: It's impressive.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: At a media conference at the party's San Fernando West constituency office, nta office and so on.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: At the media conference at the party's San Fernando West constituency office on Lord Street on January 13th, gary slammed politicians and members of the public who continue to use Young's former relation to Christiana Sanka Did he say former relation?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: He might have done Former relation to Christiana Sanka as a way to cast a shadow on his recent selection to become prime minister.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: When Dr Kid Rowley resigns at an unknown date, her face continues to be plastered in the media because they're trying to link her with that individual.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: That is because she was arrested by myself.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: She was arrested by myself.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: She was arrested by myself and they continue to demonize that young lady, to refer to her as the stepdaughter of the future prime minister, to try not to go out of their way to destroy one man or destroy the life of a young girl because she made a mistake.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Gary, I just want Oliya, as politicians collectively, to start thinking more like this.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Like Oliya makes statements like these as if them things don't matter.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Just want only, as politicians collectively, to start thinking more like this.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Like, always make statements like these as if them things don't matter, when it's in all your favor to say these things about people and it can advance all your political agenda.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Always say things like this all the time.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: This is one of the reasons I don't like politics here, because nobody the little girl who they're trying her future, not because she connected to you.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: She always do this to little youths all the time.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Call the name as if them don't matter, almost like them don't even have a vote.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Always just use them as a like a trump card where you could throw it and you dump that and then you shuffle and you pass the pack and the next man shuffle and use it.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: You always do this all the time.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Anyway, sanko was arrested along with aruba elegant jovan cole and janice pebbles of son augustine in a westmore in westmoreland's drew in a westmoreland drug raid on december 4 2018, police recovered 191 nearly 192 pongs of marijuana it's looking at people for that and 1.04 kilograms of cocaine valued at 3.8 million.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, in home, his belief in driving home, his belief that Sanka's actions should not be held against Young or anyone for that matter Griffith said he too was related to her.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: You can't forget how he locked you up.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Huh, that girl is my cousin, so demonize me.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I have no qualms to state yes, she's my family, she's a Danielle and my mother was a Danielle.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: You don't like Garyiffith, so what?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: You're going to continue to condemn a young lady and criticize and demonize her every time because your enjoyment and excitement and hatred, um, slow down, gary griffith, slow down.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Slow down because I was with you on the condemnation of the young lady and the demonization and so on.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: But you did say 191.66 kilograms of marijuana, 1.04 kilograms of cookie.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Let me not forget if you should do it or what.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Let me not forget that that was part of the jacket right.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Also, the press conference.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Also, at the press conference, the NTA presented five of its candidates who will contest the general election.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, he was using a little.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Alright, gary, I see what you did here.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Use good, good name and biggest you to talk about your five candidates.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Let me, let me.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Let me talk about them too, uh.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Kevin saran for sandra and the west you're gonna lose.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Nicole nicoline taylor, chinchami that's too big for a ballot.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: You're gonna lose.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Uh who else?
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Jasinio rigsby for arima, karen, unc and former unc mp.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Christine naw-Hossain for Toko, san De Grande I hope she enjoys the beach up there because that will be all she's getting.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Commander Norman Del Nial will be running for Shogunate East Not a chance.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Griffith previously said he would contest the St Joseph seat and Savita Peer will contest Tunapuna.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Looking like not as he defended Sanka.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Griffith also wants candidates to avoid stooping to that level on the campaign trail.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: All right, so I have a little more hope now.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: All the coming back up on my slider.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: He said the hatred and division and bitterness by politicians on all sides have destroyed the country.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I wish he would have said there, including me our job in the nt is to unite, to build, to be productive, and all I ask you candidates is that we are not going into this election with the guts of politics.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Now, gary, the way leadership is worked.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: If you show the example, we might have a chance.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, if them fellas and them come out and run a campaign on issues, all they have are my voters saying it here and now, despite being selected as early successors.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: All right, so all they know about Stuart Young already.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: So that is where we are.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I applaud Gary Griffith all right, so I don't know about stuart young already.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: So that's where we are.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I applaud gary griffith.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I applaud, a matter of fact, when I look at the um, the people who are saying I know chansey, actually some of the faces I know from I go around the gym and think young, vibrant people and so on.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: So I wish the nta the best.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be an uphill battle for them in any constituency they have, but I think gary griffith has a lot of cachet.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: People believe in him and it's like there's a faction that feel gary griffith is the solution for crime in the country and I'm not sure if that means only as commissioner of police or wherever they put him.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: That's going to be the case, but uh, left to be seen.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I wish them the best.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I wish them the best.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I wish them the best.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I wish them the best.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I wish them the best.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I hope they come out and they make good representation of themselves and let's see if we have a proper third force in this country.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to a certain song here.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Right, a little of mine, because I play this song again as one of my favorite songs for the season.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: It's the number one song of the season by any metric at this point in time, and the song ends in free marketing on top of that what are you doing, she said.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: She said she said, let me get up to you.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I say get up to me.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: She said just relax and let me get it in.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: She said take it easy, I will do the work, you don't have to wind up yourself.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: You don't have to wind up yourself.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: She said take it easy, I will do the work, you don't have to wind up yourself.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: You don't have to wind up yourself.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: You don't have to wind up yourself.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: And then she bubble and she bubble and she bubble and wind.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Push back Is the greatest man of Push back.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Roll your waist and bend over, push back.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, miss Lady.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Bubble and she bubble and she bubble and wind, push back.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Give me the greatest ban of Push back, you already wickedest ban of Push back Wine.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I wanna wine on your bumper.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I know you like steam, I know you like vibes, I know you like speed Cup work.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Y'all bend down, touch your knee.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: It's a new wallpaper for my iPhone screen.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: She said let me cater to you.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I said cater to me.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: She said just relax and let me give you the thing.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, girl, I wanna give you the thing.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: She say take it easy, I will do the work.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I see a man on Facebook say when the woman say, take it easy, I will do all the work, they mean for 1 minute and 30 seconds.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: So don't get your hopes up too high.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Don't get your hopes up too high.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: We still name man.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So controversy, controversy surrounding this song, sorry to say.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: We just talked about this rhythm and this song last week and I was so proud, as I say, I say, when you see a youth man named Corey, he bong for greatness, he bong for greatness, he bong for greatness.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Just last week we talked about this as young producers of the rhythm, corey and Kevin Hart.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: And what's the name of the rhythm?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Again, I'm a young man and all I think the name of it is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Well, the name of the group is full-blown and it's Big Link's Rhythm, right.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: So salute to them.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I tried to go out fed this weekend.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Let me talk more household business now.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I tried to go ahead this weekend.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: I see something named Buku Bakanal Breakfast or something like that, and I say, boy, listen, let me, let me, let me.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Let me shake a little leg.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: You know my young wife.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Let me come on.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: When my young wife dragged the flag, I talk with my mind.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: And when she dragged the flag, I tell her, I say my mind and we should drag the flag.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I tell you I said, girl, let me go take.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: But in fairness, when I see the pictures from back in albuquerque and everything that was being said on on social media, I tell myself, oh boy, this fit might be a little bigger than I expected.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a little small fit and I could pass through there fast, enjoy myself quick and and and and that would be it.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I tell myself I, I in and out and there, I in and out of there and and, enjoying myself quick and and and that'll be it.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: You know, I tell myself I, I in and out and there, I in and out of there and and enjoying myself.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: And we discover our next fed.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, I've been saying it for years, fed ticket very, very hard to get.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And sometimes we hold on to the past because I have some feds that I go to all the time and then every year, by default, we end up in them fets, right, and what I try to do is like at a stage now where it's more like cooler fets for me, I need a small event to bring your cooler everything right in and I'll go by no bar, fight up with nobody.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I find a prefer in that.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: No, I do enough for the brass and the customs.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I do big fat for a long time, to the point where I would have never got a festival, a small fat.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I would have never got dj fat at one point in time.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: But now I can't make again.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I want to park far, far and I can't do that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And what I realized now is that I'm not letting the nostalgia of events hold me to be doing no event for the next five years.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: When it reached the point where you had to fight for tickets because it have points in time where you could just buy the ticket on island e-tickets or wherever it is or where whoever you know.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: You just call and you get tickets and then the events get popular and then it is be.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: You had to find this particular person who would approve the ticket.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: It is again all, I don't mind, just go.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I think me and stacy enjoy weself when we go out.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: It could be me and she.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: We don't bang for no crew, we just have a good time riding by weself.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: So I say back in Albuquerque.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: It's right in Anchorage that close to me I could get in and out of there in the SOE fast.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Nobody can lock me up when I get in my transportation home and so on.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: You know what the music is, what making my come out, and this big links rhythm is one of the things I talk about it.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Last year, with kevin and cory hart being young fellas, who I understand are the grandsons of the great eddie hart locals of tuna puna, bad, bad men, and they come up with this rhythm and I think they have um, they have kes, uh, they have kesess, marshall young brother, and the young brother seems to be the one that running in the forefront, right.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden you see somebody who, to me, is a hit maker, right, let me say that right, trinidad Killer.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: If you don't know the name, trinidad Killer, you know her song, gunman and Chihu.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: She like that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: The man had one big voice singing that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: The first time I heard it I didn't know who it was, but that song picked up her length and her energy and is now one of the most popular songs in Trinidad ever, if you're just going based on social media views and YouTube and streams and things, a big song, right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: But he know, he know how to make a hit.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me say he have a way?
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: He is, I don't know.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: He certainly don't write down no lyrics, because the way he just put lines together and thing a little funny and off to me.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: But when he sings something, a lot of the things he sing is be hits, you know.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, some of these hits are my ass in front but a lot of them is be hits too right.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And he, I just hear this song last week must be when I done recording thing.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I hear this song because, uh, young brother, one of the says take it easy, I will do the work.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Nice little concept for a song, right.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I understand as well that the, the lyrics for the song, of all the songs in the rhythm, was written by these two youth men too right, salute them.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: That's enormous talent to be able to do that, in my opinion, or by any, by any measure, right.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: And then marsh say I can only even carry out a time, but I still want to.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I still want to you know what I mean.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: So the song, the concepts for the song, have an energy and a vibe and you know I won't tell you the truth, I don't want to be rude, I don't want no dirty secrets between me and you and whatever it sounds like, but the thing have an energy and a vibe and it's taking over the carnival.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: So far we're in mid-January.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: You know To be talking about songs as big songs at this stage.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: You remember man used to release songs Late in the carnival.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: You know Sometime when carnival is in March, january, if I had to be playing Last year music Still now, still know again, good, good music early in the thing.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: So salute to all the producers and all the artists for bringing out good music at the time.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: But I and I'm not playing this song right, I'm not gonna play this song, but I will say this Trinidad Killer, jump on the rhythm and let's see if I can find I can't sing like them, fellas and them, you know.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: But here's a song let.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: That's about how it goes, right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: That is a terrible rendition, a terrible rendition.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: But I refuse to play this song.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: On going right, that is a terrible rendition, a terrible rendition.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: But I refuse to play this song.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: On principle, right, but this song basically saying that he out in the cold and he can't come back for Carnival and he grieving and he go right in him in the snow and he want to be there for you but I can't be there for you, right, a la songs like Lorraine.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: We have a hundred songs before with that concept.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: But that concept itself is a winning concept because they have many, many people, for all kinds of different reasons not just being illegal and so on, but for many, many different reasons people may not be able to come home for a carnival.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I myself relate to the song because with everything happening in life right now, I'm not sure that I could play no mass or fat fat fed whole time.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: And you know I mean I I might be rocking back this kind of all the music.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I'm ready to pull the trigger, but the idea of missing carnival and missing home is a winning concept for a song and I'll tell you this the song, good, the song is a hit, the song, take off foreigners defending the song but cause a controversy because apparently the people who write the rhythm and own the rights to the rhythm intellectual property rights, right.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: They did not approve this song.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: They don't know nothing about it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: He just decided he take any song after he said on social media that he tried to contact the producers of this song.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Nobody ain't taking any call.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: So he decides to jump on the rhythm and since he jumped on the rhythm, they have a faction of people online.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: I'll say mostly like a lot of industry people, right, a lot of industry people are basically saying, hey, you can't do things like that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: You can't just pick up a man thing and use it as yours and act like if and of course, the fight don't talk, right, we could do a deep dive into that fight, don't thing today.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: You know who fighting, who fighting them down?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Because that is a part of that might as well be a part of our national watch words discipline, tolerance, production and fighter.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Has somebody always fighting down?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Somebody always fighting down somebody, nobody.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Nobody seemed to want to.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: You know, let me just nobody.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Some people seem to always feel somebody fighting them, though I want to read a little lengthier, but I want to read a post by the great Selvan, mr Shaq Noel, I see on Facebook, right, salute to Mr Shaq.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: So the backstory again is trinidad killer, alongside a producer who I know is a very, very talented youth man by the name of prince pronto, knowing from prayers and them days, and a good, good youth.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Them fellas and them take the rhythm, put his song in rhythm and put it out.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Not just put it out like on social media for public consumption, but put it on places like spotify and youtube where they're monetizing the song, right.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: So what it essentially means is, if I build a rhythm and I give it to, let me, let me, let me change the scenario a little bit, because I have a part of this that cloudy the rhythm don't get real big already, right, because marshall song, anything is a vibe.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: And young brother take the rhythm to our next level with people.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: People love that young brother song.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: I heard uh blaze and them do a link up with our jamaican radio station this morning.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's zip and them and all talking about our young brother song.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: The song is a nice song, good, good, big hit.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Right, let me assume I produce a rhythm and I put two people on the rhythm and the.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: The songs ain't catching on right, for whatever reason.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: The people on the rhythm not popular.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: They can't push this song.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Nobody don't like it.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: The songs ain't great and I'm not making no money of this song.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Now I put all the money, I pay the artist something and I'm not making no money of this song.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: And trinidad killer then take up my rhythm without my permission, use it and create a hit and monetize on that hit.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Would you find that to be fair to me?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: As a person who create this, the song, you see a part of what clouding this issue is.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: People tend to watch people who have and feel they have enough.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Marshalls don't have money.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Demeterans don't have money.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: So anything a man who has money do is fighting down poor people.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: It's the greatest thing in this country.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: People like to see people reach a point.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: But once you get too big here, reach a point, but once you get too big here, once you succeed, people start to have contempt for success is the greatest thing in this country.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So what happens to me now when I hungry and I pay for this rhythm and trend that killer, I, I, why wouldn't I go and exercise my rights to my music that I produce and pull only some of a youtube and pull it down off a spotify?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Why would I not do that?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: As somebody who had two artists, who's struggling and marie them and good and them, kind of thing what I also have the option to do is to call trend that killer and say couldn't hear you catch a length here?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: No, this is what I wanted out of the rhythm all the time.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Come now, I will authorize it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Let you work out the splits.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I will get my money as producer, you will get your money as writer, performer, we will put the credits and you could do it after the fact, and then I could make some money and move on right.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: But the truth is, and the crux of the matter is this that is my choice as an individual.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I also have the option to stay poor and hungry and dead.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: As an artist, like my prerogative, I make the rhythm.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: It's mine, it belonged to me and for you to pick it up and go and use it as yours and because what you do on it is good, you're you're and I asked him thoughts about that everybody.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Let me read on mr.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: He says so I'm on thief, my already fully loaded car.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Then, without my permission of course, put some nice rims right on my car.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: That was already top of the line even before the bandits sponsored the rims.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: But because the thief is a well-known community, coddled and enabled rabble rouser and loudmouth, I couldn't be better myself.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I should just allow the thief to drive my car around the town and not see it as a bold-faced robbery.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Furthermore, when I decided to report the theft and the thief to the police, face robbery.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Furthermore, when I decided to report the theft and the thief to the police, and and and the, the said thief and his enablers in the community, fine, I hated on the man and I fighting him down, especially since he called me after he done thief my car to negotiate a reasonable price that I should sell it to he for.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: And when I refuse to sell it, the thief and he enables cussing me out the road and on social media how that could be good.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: So I ain't gonna read the rest he say to you.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: But you understand the analogy.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: This thing, this thing belong to me.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: You pick it up and you know you're vexed with the world.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: This is the part I don't understand right, because up to the part where you pick it up without permission, I could have some arguments there with you, because a rhythm this is a little bit of a shock for the analogy but a rhythm is not a car, right?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: And I live in Jamaica for a little while and I see a little bit of what's happening in the industry in Jamaica just from the outside right and my little bit of dealings with artists there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: I've seen many, many times people jump on unauthorized rooms.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: So for instance, I used to go halfway through and buy a little CD.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: I have a man named Cassette Ninja on halfway through.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Right, it's a little Cassette Ninja.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: I go down and I buy a little CD.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Right, cassette Ninja, do you own a little mix?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Plus, you have mixes from people like Renaissance and Stone Love and all them things.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Right, if you bring out a bad rhythm in jamaica, men going and take that rhythm and do dub plates on that rhythm, right?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: So a man like renaissance or dylan, who used to run renaissance sound of the time, would take that same rhythm and play the songs that official on the rhythm, like what cory and kevin had, do you know?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I mean if you play the official songs but they will also play unofficial songs in the former dubblades right.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: You will also have artists who hear the rhythm and find the rhythm bad and jump on the rhythm and you might find that the producers may or may not approve the song, depending on how good the song is and if the song catch length and them there.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: It's not uncommon we saw it with vibes cartel and neo right because in all the rest of the world when you hear, the whole rest of the world expect to see my vocal is terrible, right, but you understand what I'm saying.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: The whole rest of the world.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: My vocals terrible, right, but you understand what I'm saying.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: The whole rest of the world expects to see that.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: But you see, in this place you call the Caribbean.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: When you hear, you think every man grab a girl, every girl scorn them All when at night that's what we expect to hear.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: That was unauthorized.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: That is Cartel and Spice picking up a rhythm that neo was done big already with his his miss independent song and them jump on anything and it catch a length.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: I see neo in an interview saying well, when he talked to his management and they explained to him who vibes cartel was, he had no choice.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Like what is it?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I don't question we had to authorize it.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: If that was not the way it happened at first, neo and them was very upset, very upset.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the record label, everybody was upset about it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: But they eventually authorized the song.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: When they say authorized it mean that listen, okay, we're going to treat it as if we went through the channel the right way in the first place.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: We're going to sign off on it and we're going to work out some kind of monetary split.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: So now you can monetize.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: The song gets so big globally that it come like everybody expecting to hear the whole world want to hear that now and neo make it a party set.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: But the truth again, and the crux of the matter, is that there is neo choice.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: So when trinidad killer didn't get onto the youth men, get prince pronto and them to clean up the rhythm thing and make a song.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I'll put it this way You're wrong, but I could understand you Because it's not a car, it's not a physical thing to take.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: It's still yours.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: It's still wrong but it's done.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: It has happened and, beyond that, right even when it's wrong as a man.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: That's why I play the shadow song to you, because when you do good, good is follow you.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: So sometimes.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: But in life, when you're hungry and you're suffering, and I understand people taking chances, this world built on wrongdoing and crime and so on.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: So when a man take a chance, if I don't condone it, I could understand it, you know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: I mean you call the men.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: You don't have the money to get on the rhythm.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: The men never take a call.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: They just don't like you or whatever the reason might be.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: They decided jumping on the rhythm.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Where I have a difficulty is when you immediately switch to the world fighting you and against you, as if you didn't know you was taking a chance and he was doing something wrong.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: I don't like to use these young people terms now, you know, but you see this thing where you weaponizing people against me fully well, knowing that you're wrong and you're using people ignorance I use only using ignorance in this term to mean people may not know, because it's clear that his supporters some of them on their page who might well be just people who relate to the song and can't understand why the rhythm done so nice already with the concept of I have one car and I still drive two, and the next concept of well, you just take it easy, I go do the work and you have the sweetest bent over and you know nice concepts like that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Now you add the concept to it that I go riding him in the snow.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling lonely and I'm feeling thing.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I want to come back home but I can't come for Carnival.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: I I'm missing all these S on the Fed.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: People feel like, hey, that is exactly describing me.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: And they're fighting on the social media comments on the Trinidad Killer.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Now to say everybody badminding them.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Of course, the biggest name in the mix there is Marshall.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: Nobody is saying Young Brother badminding them because they like Young Brother and he's still seen as below the success threshold.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Once you're below the success threshold in this country, aka still poor.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Once you're below the success threshold.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Once you're below the success threshold in this country, aka you're still poor.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Once you're below the success threshold, people will defend you and they'll like you and things.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Your little young brother get big like Marshall and make that kind of international recognition and money.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: They will start to say all kinds of things about him and who he fight down and who he never let in.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Just give it time because he will get there.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: And that is what will be said, right, if, because he will get there.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: And that is what will be said If I know.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: But about it, I don't like that part where you're going into fight down mode immediately and then you're on social media You're crying.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Last time it was people event he wishing the people event get rain out in Tobago Because he ain't get booked for burner boy.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: This mentality that somebody Owing you something I don't believe in that at all.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like this mentality that somebody owing you something I don't believe in that at all.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like listen.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: And the thing about it is, when you look at some of his behavior online, he had no respect for nobody, right, because you're playing in a game where many men came before you and do a lot and you do a lot and many men will come after you and do a lot.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: The least you could do is show recognition or respect for the people who who are on the industry your cohorts, your peers, your colleagues.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: You know I mean your co-workers but he had no respect for nobody.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: I saying this because I saw a girl by the name of meli rose.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: What do you want to call meli rose if you don't know the name?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Meli rose've seen her on Instagram for a while now.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know much about her.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know much of her songs, but I know she has a social media presence and I follow her.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: She's trying with songs.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: All the time she comes out and says something about it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know why she says anything about it, like marketing purposes, because she know he don't call up, he don't call up her name and all that, but he gone off on the girl and this and that and who is you?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: And nobody don't know you and thing.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: It's like you're accusing.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: You're doing the same thing that you're accusing people are doing, people fighting you down.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: And why would you say that about an upcoming artist who trying and who?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Who billing her audience and thing why you would use your voice to say she is nobody and we must boycott she and the follow she and and and light she upon she page and thing boiling or something another.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: All right, so it's youth, right?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: So she unknown, nobody don't know who she say you could do anyone.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: I see mastermind.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Who people again, and that's why I'm going using the word weaponized.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: So, coincidentally, mastermind is mr shark brother, right?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I find out that last time I spoke to Mr Shaq in an interview.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Go back to that episode, one of the best episodes we have on the podcast, right.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: But when you look at Mastermind and how much artists he produced for and how much rhythms he put out and who he is in the culture, like I see, many people had to remind him, even his followers, because Mastermind went out and said I'm not playing that Eskimo song.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: The name of the song is Es.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Of course you probably wouldn't find it at this point unless you look on his social media, because they pull it down from all platforms, which is their right to do.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Corey and Kevin how that is.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: But Mastermind say I'm not playing that song, it's not authorized.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: We, as creatives, we know what this is.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: We're not supporting that.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: And think of it.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: If mastermind is bill ridden too.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: I can't support that against two youth men.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Who's so bad and committing?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: What kind of?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: What kind of example?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: I certainly for for the elders, as as an elder I should say, when I'm not lying, nobody do.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: No youth men though.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Well, boy, this man screenshot mastermind thing and put who the hell is he?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Nobody don't know this dj, he don't even know.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: It shows a lack of, just a lack of respect.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I always remember, right, zachary used to go to this karate class.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Well, coming from Purple Dragon, I think, his nephew of the great Don Jacob, a man by the name of Ludwig Jacob, all in Ludwig, and I remember the first time he was going up for from white belt to yellow belt or yellow whatever belt ceremony, right, he had all the parents line up the dojo and all the children was in the middle doing their thing and whatever they had to do.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: But when he spoke about the purpose of being in the karate class, one of the things he said is that I'm not here just to tell a boy about discipline and to fight and for fitness and for self-defense and all them things he said.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I am here to make your children likable children.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: That thing stood out to me so much at that point in time because the if me and you on the same level in life we are the same qualification, same set of money, we know the same set of people, we have the same kind of access on them kind of thing right, and you're real likable and eyes are paying to be a wrong, you're going to reach further in life than me.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: So it was such a simple statement to make and coming out of the blue for me as a karate man.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I think you're coming to tell people it's spin kick.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: I come here to learn spin kick and swipe down people and beat people.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: When you say, I hear, to turn your children into likable people, that stood out to me.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Sometime in life you have to focus on being likable and it is very clear to me that Trinidad Killer is not a likable person.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: So when Corey and Kevin see the rhythm done big it's on top of the world and then they look and they see Trinidad Killer calling, they say oh God, oh God Can't say that is a cry, that is a heaviness.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: You come into, heavy down my spirit.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Sorry for this youth named Prince Pronto who going down in flames with this man right now right, because he's a good little youth man I see coming through present and he joined up with this and in the comments fighting with people.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: And although I know from the little I know Prince Pronto, I with people and although I know from the little I know prince pront, I know there's not how he feel, but I see somebody in the comments try to correct trinidad killer, someone he supports us, say hey, no, boy, mastermind, I didn't think.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: You know who that is.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: That's a big producer.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: A matter of fact, sweetbread and sorrel.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: So to my little cousin, I have a little cousin named christian and shaylen them have a bad sweetbread and sorrel.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: What's his song name?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Black cake and sorrel, some damn thing, right, you know me and thing name, right that's mastermind, do that.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: And she had to remind him hey, somebody biggest soca parent, that the man who produces it.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: He do so much for the music.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: There's one of the trend.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: I kill a fan trying to just tell him hey, be careful.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: And his response on his instagram I think.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: He deleted all the posts now.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: His response was I don't care what he do for music and that.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: That.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: That pretty much sum it up for me.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: That sum it up for me.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: He take long all the posts he say quit music.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see him crying online just now and the saga continues.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: But I I think you know going about these things.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: No, but it's almost like I ain't telling you, boy, you pass somewhere and somebody tree a plum and the plum hanging over you when you take the plum on them.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: I ain't saying that wrong, but I could understand why somebody would do that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: But when you be wrong, now you're coming and you're saying you know, take down fighting your dong.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: But it's like this for me Anybody who achieve anything, but it's like this for me Anybody who achieves anything and even the people who never achieve nothing, if that exists.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Everybody has obstacles in their way, right, but some people they find a way.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: When the obstacle comes up, they focus on the solution and some people they focus on the obstacle.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: But there are some people in life them they become the obstacle.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: And there's good people to stay away from and make sure that that ain't get on your clothes.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: You see, when you see people like that who them want to become the obstacle to their own self, to let it get on your clothes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: And the thing I'm feeling for the most in this whole situation is young brother, who are so glad you have a song, that have a length, that now, with a number one song, the debate around the rhythm now is this I feel a feeling for for these youth men, the grandsons of the great Eddie Hart.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: I feel for them because, while the rhythm is so sweet and it has everything going for it and it take the carnival by storm, it has such a good feeling to it.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: The conversation now become about them.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Don't turn off the lights, that what she like Can't believe a sweet, sweet girl like you Would I tell her no, sweetness that she weakness, no feelings, just fuck it up like you mean it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: No sweetness that she weakness, no feelings.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Just fuck it up like you mean it.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Girl, wine and go down Waistline flow like a melody.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Go down, Pretty pretty girl, you are the recipe.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Go down.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Fire in the kitchen, my girl.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I want you to cook that, cook that, cook them.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Let me see Nice man can keep you in trees.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Come with flowers and they get this space.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: You have to handle the business proper.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Outro Music.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Put down the rock.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Watch out she face.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Light up Boy.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: No sweetness, Die she weakness.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no feelings, Just fuck it up like you mean it.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Sweetness.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Hey, man Kes is a man of her groove and the one man who's a man of her groove and in her zone is Kes.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: On to other artists.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: On to other artists.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: We can't leave without talking about the great Marshall Montana, right?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: I saw, maybe about a month ago or so, a thing being teased that Marshall was going to be on Tiny Desk and all them kind of thing, and you know what I mean.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: I almost forget about the thing.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: To tell you the truth, right, and I realized from the responses to Marshall I am the problem, right, I am the problem.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I come here for therapy.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: There's a therapy session where I need an intervention because I, I, I, in, in.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: I tend to not respond to much social media comments unless somebody says something to me or about me, or it have something to do with me, like.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: But I realize I've been triggered by negative criticism or critique and I had to work on myself when I was concerned, because I do find that when people tell me things, like when I put out an episode and somebody tells me, hey, you say this name wrong, my first instinct is to say in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I talk for two hours and the only thing you hear is one wrong name.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: That's my.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Again, I triggered by it.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: I have an issue, you know, it's something that I had to work on.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I have to work on that and see how I could overcome that, because I feel so good when I watch Marshall do the tiny desk and for me, right, it would not matter if he do great, if he do mediocre, if he do bad, right, it would not matter if he do great, if he do mediocre, if he do bad, they don't matter to me.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: The most is he do tiny desk, because I have watched several tiny desk performances.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Paula stacy seem to be obsessed with three people npr and tiny desk um, dj anna and simo, ultra simo, and a man by the name of dj cassidy, completely obsessed.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Anytime we have people over, she forces them to sit down and watch hours and hours and hours of Anna and Simo or DJ Cassidy playing.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I've seen all of them.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: But I also like, like.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: I have a few of the Tiny Desk performances that I see, because if you know what Tiny Desk is, what the hell NPR stands for National Public Radio.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I never thought of that.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: What is NPR?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually it is National Public Radio.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: You know, when you're bright, right, let me tell you something.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: When you're bright, just naturally your bright is just come up on you.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: You know what it is, it's comforting.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: But National Public Radio is an American public broadcasting organization headquartered in Washington DC, with NPR West headquarters in Culver City, california.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: It serves as a national syndicator to a network of over 1,000 public radio stations in the United States.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was helpful.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it mean anything to you.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: It didn't help me much.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: But that is what NPR is right.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: And they do this little thing called Tiny Desk.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: I found out about Tiny Desk the first time because it had a bunch of people who say t-pain can't sing in real life.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: And then t-pain went and do tiny desk and it's basically an unplugged performance, not necessarily acoustic.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: So you're playing with electric or electronic instruments but you're unplugged in that you have no backing vocals.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: The musicians actually playing, they're not playing to a backing track for this ableton thing the thing I always complain about with carnival, where they're playing the whole backing track and in very big, large scale performances like the super bowl and those types of stadium, they tend to shy away from live instrumentation because of how difficult it is.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: It does not transmit well all the time over very large audiences like stadium artists like uh, like beyonce and so on.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: They need to have the original backing track behind them when they play music, because the the venues that ain't so big that don't lend well to to to actually band playing the whole song.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: It's not gonna sound great, right?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: So when you look at a format like Tiny Desk, which the name is merely because it's like a little desk, they perform behind a little desk in the office at NPR and it's like they're performing for the staff there themselves, it gives you an up-close-and-personal with very, very big artists.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: That gives you a different side of the artist.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: It also only lasts about 10 minutes, so it puts artists like tp in a little bit of a uh, it's like a bind, like okay, if I only have 10 minutes, like what songs are going to perform?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: You had to pick the right songs between the, the big hits that you know people want to hear, versus the songs that you really love to perform in an intimate setting, and I think my favorite is a rapper by the name of scarface.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: Right, I like the one with scarface a lot because scarface sing a song when I was a teenager, called I never seen a man cry till I see a man die and he's very lyrical and you know, just seeing him perform with that level of instrumentation around him and not the typical rapper with a djb and running up and down on a stage, I like the thing.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: And t-pain showed that without the auto tune and thing and no special mic and special effects, he could actually could sing, sing.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: He really is a good singer.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Uh, the one with the locks was really good way of um, who's the locks?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Again, jada kiss styles p and sheik lush and the horse on the rap, knowledge.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: The usher was real good, plenty of them.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Sting and shaggy was on it.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Right, sting and shaggy was on there together and it was amazing.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Imagine sting, sting I mean sting is who he is my favorite one.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Now where to check out is if you like npr and you like the performances.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Please go to youtube and look for npr brushy one string.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Check out that and tell me how you like it.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: Brushy one string is a man who's playing guitar with one string and he don't play too much on notes on the one string and he literally he don't.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: It's not like he have a guitar with six string and he only playing the one.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: He have a guitar with one string and he's an international recording artist, big, big artist, and you know some of these songs you sing from tiktok and little memes and them kind of thing.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: But he is a vibe and an energy by himself, but them kind of intimate settings.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: It really is a nice thing to see an artist in them settings.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: So I was glad marshall gets to do it.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it a grammy?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: No, is it billboard or I?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what people just want, boy, like when you, when you see facebook comments, sometimes I just wonder, like why is people so upset?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: And and again, I'm telling you it's, it's to do with my own triggers, right, that nothing to do with nobody else, it's just the way I feel about negative criticism or or critique.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe I am not good at receiving negative feedback and that's something I need to work on in my life because and you know, let me sum it up for you I heard Dame Dash, who was co-founder of Rockefeller Records with Jay-Z and them, back in the day, right, he was saying something about creativity and entrepreneurship and trying something, right, and he was saying that you could critique things.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: He says not that I don't want no negative feedback.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: He say they have a time to say, okay, this was good, these are things we could improve.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: But he said that listen, when I dream in and I in my highest moments, don't come to tell me well, this was wrong, this was wrong.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: He said I've had time for that, but I've had time to just enjoy the fact that we achieve greatness.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's where it's triggering, because when I see somebody achieve greatness, water in my eye immediately, whether I like you, me and like you I thought I was always talking to my sister about this I say, yeah, marshall, she's, marshall is the king.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: I was like marshall was the king, it's like being a man and cartel, you know, I mean.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: But then you, it's now taking over marshall, marshall on.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: He used to say he's the pinnacle, right, but at his age and stage now we could see where we need more kings coming up, uh.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: But when he achieves something like this, I feel it's something we could just maybe just pause for a minute and celebrate and then put a little space in between and then critique.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm blaming it on gate, you know, I'm blaming it on gate because, again, the you go to school and they go to the and they teach a critical analysis.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: So I am forced, no matter how good I find a man theory is, aristotle said I must go and find the ups and the dongs.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Remember you're some other critical analysis that university system is.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: Make people very, very good at figuring out what wrong with something, ask them to go and do the thing themselves or ask them to go.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: It's hard for them to do it themselves.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: All they could do well for a lot of people, all we could do really, really well when they come out of that universe, is critique.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Something like you present me the idea.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: I could tell you if it good or bad, but actually to come up with the idea and most people who come out of that university system can't come up.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: It's not like you're coming up with much.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: So I feel I feel that's where my trigger has come from, because let me read some of the comments for you and it will be cruder, so if you ain't like them kind of thing, don't listen.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: The first, one of the first comments I've seen here my the, the article, and let me read a little bit of the article first to tell you the slant that the article take.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: This is from.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: This is from the express right by michael mondesi.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Of course, the legend it says marshall milestone.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Marshall has once again made history, becoming the first soca artist to perform on american npr's prestigious tiny desk concert series.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: Npr's tiny desk is a globally acclaimed platform renowned for its intimate performances and ability to spotlight diverse musical genres and artists.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Why didn't I just come to the article in first place?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: I tried to describe this story so terrible.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Look how good michael monty do.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: The thing hosted in the npr office.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you know where it hosted, and all that.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that already marshall montano's performance, which debuted on npr's youtube channel yesterday morning, garnered over 50 000 views within just six hours, a testament to soaker's growing global appeal and marshall montano's enduring talent song good right, song positive and so on.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: And I feel in good water in my eye watching some of these things and I see somebody.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: They say I'm happy for him, but he needs to do a little giving back to the less privileged, and god will bless him even more.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: And this is where I triggered by these things, because my thing is that when we do something, when Marshall sing, I feel like his eyes singing.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like I was in a room.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like part of my Trinbegonian-ness was on display and we out for the world.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: And if I was to see Marshall in front of me in that moment, or he now come off the stage, I would say, boy, you do real good, boy, that was real good.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I may think to myself that, okay, I see, well, I miss this, or they miss the cue for a song, or, but I just feel like if that is not the time when we feeling so good about what we just do and what we just enjoy, why would that be the time to give negative feedback?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: They have a time for negative feedback, they have a time for post-mortem.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: But if I am high and I do something and I feel like I accomplished something, I just feel like when people come out and as I come out they tell me boy, that wasn't it.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: I feel like I just take it as a personal attack.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: But again, I tell you, that's a me problem, I don't work on myself.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: What that's a me problem?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: Right, I don't work on myself.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: What's the two of the earliest comments nobody cares from ivan who said nicole muhammad, no one cares.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean I can't understand it.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Brent bagaloo yeah, he still can't get nothing on the billboard charts, though it's like okay.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: So what the hell is wrong with you?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: All right, I don't understand.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Now again, this is why I tell you I have a problem, because in between there is plenty of comments like congratulations, best wish to Marshall and TNT Soca.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Well done, blessings, keep up the good work.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: Wonderful, I love that series.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Congratulations, bless up.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: But somehow with my triggers triggers I always go into the bad one.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: A man say this should have been bungee galling, real bad man, of course.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Real spell R-E-E-L.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe how I can help myself, how I can not get to these things and people you know who make comments like this, and I've seen like the express delete some of them.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: So I mean I don't understand.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: I see I salute my partner, maurice burke.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: I always talk about him here.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Maurice saying, um, hot, take the vocals was terrible.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: I was like maurice, terrible intro.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: And it's almost like another another fellow partner of mine online on social media, lacqua, saying yeah, it was all right.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, there's nothing special about it.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Marshall LNPR yeah, it was all right.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: And I think to myself okay, even if you find so right.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: I don't understand why there's a need when everybody's celebrating something and your opinion is clearly against the popular grade.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: It's almost like when too much people enjoying something.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: People just had to come and say all these sheep, you know, I mean, all these are such a sheeps, all them sheeps and them.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: They don't know nothing good.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: So they just say anything, come out anything, marshall, do always be on it, or the like what I was saying.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Unpopular opinion, marshall, tiny, that's what I needed.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: Some female vocals for iron and some bottle.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Needed some female vocals, some iron and some bottle and spoon.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Now I don't know maurice burke or jason lacroix to be professional musicians by any stretch of the imagination.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: Both of them good fellas.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're good at plenty.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: But everybody I know on my timeline who's a professional musician who might be able to tell if vocals wasn't good or if the band was missing something.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: All of them just saying, hey, great performance, this, that, that, the other.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure that they, with their professional opinion and their critiquing eye, because they play music, they've performed, they do intimate settings already.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: They may have played with marshall already.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: They might be able to see some of the things that went wrong that the naked eye or the average person would not be able to see.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: But boy, I know that people is just I, I and again, this is a me problem.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: Salute to maurice, salute to jason.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: This is not a them problem, the the problem is really me, because I just feel like, if number one, when you're giving negative feedback, you have to make sure I'm ready to receive that.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: When somebody being creative like let me talk about a podcast episode You're baring your soul, you're putting your whole face out there with opinions.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: You're saying things that you feel funny, that might be that funny.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: You're saying things you feel important, that might be.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: It's difficult.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: It's hard to do so when you're coming to me with it, you gotta make sure.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, all right, let me see if you're in a mental space to deal with this before before you come into a harsh critique like your vocals terrible, I mean, and I find you could sweeten it up a little bit to study my feelings.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: That's what me, somebody, me, somebody pick me as a human too.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: If you see, if you see marshall in your face, will you go and say, hey, your vocals was terrible.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: I have a susan marshall vocals long time I documented talking about here.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: I was glad to see him sing without a backing track.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: I also saw him do it for some performance recently and I was like hey, I had to eat back my words.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: This man could actually sing when it's time to sing and perform.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I thought he couldn't do it.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he'd do it long enough to know that he could do it, but I was wondering if, to preserve your voice for the season you stop doing it, or to lengthen your career, you stop all that singing, singing, singing.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: You could use that backing track everywhere you go and I don't like it.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I prefer to see the artists sing, sing out your whole song.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: I also saw us.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: I've seen many, many artists as they started to get older.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: These songs like okay.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Example, when marshall sing, they say he's a tiny tot and they say I'm coming in hot, but I laugh in utter amusement.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: They say I'm going too slow and I want to shut down the show.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: Me know the lyrics.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: And they say I'm a little boy and I play with my toy and I turn back a little boy and I win the junior crown.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Marshall, I haven't sung that high note in about 35 years.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: A matter of fact, he get Aaron Duncan to come and sing it because the truth is, the different stages in life, your vocal range has changed.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: He cannot sing that song in the original key that he used to sing it before, and I hear him do that for a good few of the songs there in the Tiny Desk too.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: As bad as the performance was, this performance was a great performance, excellent performance.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Vibes, energy, vocals on point.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: The band was tight.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: It pours in and tear jerking.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I mean I was glad to see it.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Just Marshall, energy, a performer like that in a small setting is a dangerous man.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Marshall wake up that tiny desk and I watched a good bit of tiny desk performances.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: He had them going.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: But when you look at somebody who puts in a setting like that and able to deliver at that level, I don't know that there's a whole lot that you could critique, a whole lot that you could say.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: I think the main focus of it is that you get done.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: And my immediate thing is this was great.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: The men and them get done.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: They get through it.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I'm watching it.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I'm watching us saying all right, let me see you sing now, because you do.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: You're shortchanging me for years now.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: You're paying to see you in fat and you ain't singing a thing.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: You know I mean.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: But in the somebody he shy away from all the high notes.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: He sing all the songs in the original key.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: He himself probably went into that knowing, hey, I can't go for that high note if I have no backing track.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: I don't have no vocal.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: And he brought in I want to give some credit to the band, right, he brought in his background vocalist, who apparently were the original background vocalists on One More Wine, I think he said, but them fellas' names was Lamar Robinson and Michael Chandler.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: But he do a great job to me by bringing in the great Etienne Charles.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: So Etienne was there to be there.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Dwayne Antrobus, and who else was on keys?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: Bayette Williams on the effects, dwayne Williams, damien Neblett playing bass, melvin Alec playing drums, the great Kyle Peters playing guitar.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: They ain't missing nothing except my name now Madupe Unulu and Rice Thompson on percussion.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: You might know them as the fellas who you see playing drum in the middle of FET.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: When you go sit in Uptown FET you see them playing, beating drum and timbales.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the hell, the name is offhand, but it was such a nice thing to bring together a dream team of musicians to play there with you and it was so tight and well rehearsed.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: And I like how he do what he's doing in fact, and how he's singing this song for him, according to Sonny Bling.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: And he said all right, I will teach you all your call and response, because to me, if Brushy one string could go there with one string and play, it's a vibe that people are looking for.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: They're looking for what do you bring, who are you, what's your energy and what's your vibe, where you come from, in your genre.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: And he get him a slice of it when he went into power soca and he said I find personally like because when he said the whole band singing, to tell me because I feel them, fellas, when they was rehearsing.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: But they say, oh god, now shall I know the feeling them I understand, alright, we'll sing it along with you, just in case it didn't work and the look on Marshall's face and the energy in the band change when they brought up and the next night they say the thing is bad, there's only nobody.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: It's about time, according to Dame Dash, it's about time for time for it's about time for critique and them kind of thing.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: But the time for critique is not while the man's still on a high and while everybody else still on a high just enjoying this.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Why would you be so mean?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Why would you be so mean, as I?
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: Again, when you get a chance to look at the, just watch the guitars, because this little youth named kyle peters he's also the guitarist who play on that same big links rhythm, legendary, legendary guy and just check his energy for the whole performance.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Check Etienne, check them fellas, check the band, check the band how energetic they were and you could see people treating this as if this is a milestone in their career, according to the great Michael Mondesi Talking about milestone in Korea.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: And again, as I'm talking about guitars, I have a few things I want to do real quick.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Right, I want to say prayers to Joey Ningwai.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Let me just make sure I have this up because I saw some news about him.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, good, I've seen in the news.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: They said he was sick and he was in hospital and they were asking for prayers as another guitarist and so on.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: Guitarist and producer.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: But they're saying he's regained consciousness and is in an ongoing battle with pneumonia.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: So again, prayers to him and make sure you keep him in your prayers when your family's saying all the prayers it's paid out for, taught, for joining.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: Why, even if you know the name, you know him right.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: He's been around for a long time and again, rest in peace and condolences to the family of roger bootman.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: According to dominic calipers, roger bootman is a multi-faceted songwriter, musician, keyboardist, producer, artist and entertainer.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: He was the only songwriter in the caribbean to win three caribbean broadcasting union song festivals.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, he was the first Trinidadian to win the CBU contest in 1993.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: He won both first and second places in the local Leg of the Commonwealth Song Competition to represent Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: His compositions have been the theme songs for things like Gael Changing Agenda and Carrie Boothman's experience playing for the Santa Cruz, sawa, guanapo and El Securo Nazarene churches and and his resident pianist at holiday in hotel normandy and hilton uh trinidad.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: Hilton widened his repertoire of songs and his brothers, david and michael bootman, are nephews of world-renowned artist jeffrey bosco holder.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: So condolences to them, to the families.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: I am great ones.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: You see, all the, all the people who you consider legends in trinidad, who post, you know about the past.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: You know Roger Boothman this week and I want to end as I'm talking about people and milestones and so on in their career.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Come on, let's record this podcast, so I'm not going to talk more about the blasted family, the Dialed Diamonds I thought it used to be Dialed Diamonds An Arima story of decline and revival.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: And a Rima story of decline and revival.
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  Speaker 3: A fellow in the scene of Arctic Love, a man he used to know as a young, young fellow, you know back in the day, the man, the old, beard grey now as football coach, and a Rima, not secondary.
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  Speaker 3: There are many stories that Wayne Shepherd tells.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: One is about a trip to drop off some players home after practice.
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  Speaker 3: The drop off having been completed, shepherd proceeds to complete a full turn in the Crescent.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: He to complete a full turn in the Crescent season, only to be stopped by the frantic youngster who warns him about going further.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Because one side of the Crescent is worrying with the other side.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: The coach wisely reverses.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's Sheppey's first day of training when he's back with his new team in 2019.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: Players keep dropping out of our running drill.
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  Speaker 3: I asked to say this one.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: He needs, since he ate breakfast yesterday, two eggs.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: I've been out of a running drill and I asked to say this one in it, since he ate breakfast yesterday, two eggs.
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  Speaker 3: More than once.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: As he relates to what last five years I've been coaching at the East Trinidad school, shepherd uses the expression two different planets.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Having come from the West at Fatima college, we're trying to say, is he privileged like hell right.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: Coming having come from the West at Fatima college, where he went to school, played his football and then later coached Operating at the institution from the eastern borough, has brought home the different worlds in which young people on these islands exist.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: But as the sun always rises over the horizon, shepard has also seen brighter days at Arima, not since that eye-opening training session on and off the field.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: The article went on to talk about him and how much he's changed, not just the football, uh, the football unit in arima, but some of the lives of the footballers themselves, the energy in the community behind football, but more so, impact and passing on his knowledge and and and his own, uh, his own, experiences, not just football, because you might know Sheppey as well, not just as a man who was and I say was, I will emphasis on the word was was a great footballer in his time and I don't know he used to defend right, which is a strange thing for me.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: I guess when you look at a real short defenders now he's a man playing left, back and thing there and that's all.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: But back then, like, he's a man, could a real dribble and had a real like.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: I remember him working on different spanner and hitting men's pan and he's a violent thing watching him play small football players like queen's park and interdepartment football.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: He's a bad little footballer, you know, men might forget it, but to see him doing all his badges and going through the coaching and continuing to strive for more in coaching and being so unrelated to rima, because this is a man I know.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: Never passed the the lighthouse as I as a young fellow.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: I never see bani knees in my life, but all of a sudden he's the big man in a remand.
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  Speaker 3: The commitment he's shown to rima is admirable.
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  Speaker 3: I also never see him in a fit, ever in my life.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: I've never heard.
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  Speaker 3: I never hear.
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  Speaker 3: I never went in bani room and hear calypso playing.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: I never see a kso classic, a cassette.
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  Speaker 3: I never hear nothing.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: Them fellas and them.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: There was not no soaker man.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: He liked little despots and things, but that was about it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: He liked the pan, right, but this man wasn't no big soaker man.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: He never went off it.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: And them fellas now running Kyrie people and doing great things.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: So I just want to take a minute, a selfish little minute minute there, to salute my family.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: Long before I know what is our brother and I know what is our sibling, I know this fellow lives in a girl, barney.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: You know I mean that I go long, long, long, long, long way back.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: But as we close and as we wrap up this episode, I would like to just play a couple for you, because of course, in this household is the household of debate, right?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: So I want to leave only with two song and I want only to be the judge for me, because or just tell me if we were off the mark as a whole and we don't know nothing about music at all because Iza man have a certain song as Marshall's biggest song, but Pala Stacey have a different song as Marshall's biggest song and I want to close the episode with these two song and of course I will end with mine because I will keep the impact, if there's any impact, of going last.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: Right, you know, young brother, say take it easy, I will do the work.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: So let's palestasie do the work first.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: Now this is what palestasie have as marshall montano biggest song ever.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the Big Chuck Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I say ride the truck, ride the truck, mama.
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  Speaker 2: Ride the truck and jump up.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: Say two big morning children shout Make truck passin' mama, ay, from the house they runnin' out.
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  Speaker 2: Make truck passin' mama how they want.
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  Speaker 2: Make truck for money what they want.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Make truck behind.
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  Speaker 2: Say how they want, find the money what they want.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Run behind, run.
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  Speaker 2: When they see the big truck coming down, run.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Fall in behind and run.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: Follow the speaker song Ba-dang ba-dang bang bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck, mama, hold on to the big truck.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, jump behind the big truck.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, wind behind the big truck.
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  Speaker 2: Say don't let she, we'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: All the children, everybody Run.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: If you can't keep up, you have to run.
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  Speaker 2: When the driver Blow the truck hard, run.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody follow the song Ba-dang ba-dang bang bang.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck, hold on to the big truck, jump behind the big truck, mama, wind behind the big truck.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: She say in fairness, right at the wait For the breakdown, right the breakdown At the plate, don't let them push you back, or Show back, and keep your heart on top.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, why you behind the big truck?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, jump up on the big truck.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: What you say, take it down.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: This is what I want you to do for me.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: I want you to get in position Right.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Bring the winery Assault Zimbabwe.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: Zetua Chakamuji, mesebabe Ichimaba.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Now, jump, jump, jump.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: As always, forget that part.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: I jump up, I jump, hey-oh.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck, my man.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck, my man.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Hold on to the big truck, my man, I always forget that part.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: The big truck shut down.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: Ah-ha-ha-ha, what you gonna do, ah-ha-ha-ha, da-ba-da-da-ba-da.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: Da-da-da-da-ba-da.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: The best part of that song was Denise Belfort whining in the truck with him, right, but no, but a big song, a big song, a big song.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: Marshall Montana Big Truck is one of the biggest, but of course I don't know that is the best thing to choose for an NPR Tiny Desk, because you know, marshall, be a little desk and thing.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: I know they'll be able to keep that desk together.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: And then it's one of the older songs.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: He seemed to stick to more modern or up-to-date versions of his songs, so some of the songs included.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: One more time he opened with that.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: He played family.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: You know, you know a two mind body family thing, but I suppose if you go there you have to play family, right?
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: I suppose you had a grand play family.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: He sang bungee part and he sings in the backless part with terrible vocals, according to morrisburg, but he sang it anyway, and you know what I mean.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: He do good, he do good, he do good.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: He came all the way through it, right.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: And what other song I'm missing that he sings?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Soca Kingdom is what he closed with.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: If you know how I feel about Soca Kingdom, one of the biggest songs he ever sang too for me personally, and a song that was chosen on day which I don't know how he could go in a place like tiny desk and not sing this and also to do nice little breakdowns within the tune so the percussionist could really get on band and atn could do eating and thing my personal marshall montano favorite.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: It would tell me which one better be using too and which one is only favorite, but this is me right here.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: That's affecting more than you.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: It's sweat.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: I come out to sweat.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I wet the sweat in more than you.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: I come to wine and jam and I show the catch it more than you.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: Cause, when I'm affecting, of course I just do it like a boss.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: I'm affecting morning and evening.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: This is my home.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not leaving.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I can't get over this feeling, this feeling.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: I just want to pay myself.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Please, let me pay a mass.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: I can't get over this feeling, this feeling.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: I just want to pay myself.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Leave it, let me pay a mass.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: I just want to whine on something.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: A girl I know from past Me pride in the lost and found.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Watch me how I whine and done.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: I only need dirty ground and nothing can stop me.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Now, this whole year I live for the carnival and I know that it will be magical, it's behaving and I don't care at all.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: So don't try to stop me.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: I's a professional.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: Everyday you sweat, I come out to wet.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: I wet that wet In more than two.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: You sweat, I come out to wet.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: I wet that wet In more than two.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: I come to wind and jam and I show to catch it more than two.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: Cause when I'm fainting, of course I just do it like a boss.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: I'm fainting, morning and evening.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: We jumping, we jumping up.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: This is me home and I'm leaving.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: We winding, we winding up.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: Between me and you, as with every other debate in this house, I could comfortably say that I've won.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: I don't say no debate in that.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: The boss has spoken and you know Soca Kingdom.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: I remember the first time I heard Soca Kingdom water in my eyes, same as Big Truck, same as Like A Boss.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: I remember the year I hear Like A Boss when I hear that I say nah.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: Marshall find back a link that I said, no, marshall, find back a link, because before marshall, before like a boss, he was doing a lot of ministry.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: It had a few songs where it's not my favorite set of songs, but, boy, when he find that he finds something.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: And I always remember being in anchorage but I mean big truck was a blur because them days is beg to go fat and go where you could go days, that's the early days when I can't come out on my own yet, right, but um, when, like I was, I was outside, outside and I remember going out fetting anchorage it could be blue range, cooler.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: You just have a friday night, cooler, fetting anchorage.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: And I see marshall on that step going up by that stage, right and of course it.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: And I see the way he was approaching that stage.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: He just had a light chip and I said now, boy, this man know he have one boy, he have no doubt about what it is and listen, nobody but Kyle.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Peters, that little strum inside it was so tight on Kyle Peters, that little strum inside.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: It was so tight when Kyle Peters started that on the NPR.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: I understand that Just repeating that from the original man who would have played on the track.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it would have been him, but who.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: The original man who played on the track, kyle Peters, replicated that precisely.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: And Marshall was on one when, you see, he had that song and he was going up on that stage.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: Listen one when you see he had that song and he was going up on that stage and, hey, listen, he know he have them in the palm of his hand when he had that song.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: It's a few like that, you know, because the first time I heard jumbie, which would be one of the biggest, it didn't hold people.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: The first time we hear it, but big truck, like a boss, it have few of them that really hold people at the time.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: I'll leave in here.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: I'll leave in here one, leave in here the one.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: Right, well, I was very, very surprised that this was not one of the songs that would have played on a tiny desk.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: I know his focus would have been on music that he do by himself, but I I know he do family, which is also bungee and skinny, fabulous, and he do soaker kingdom, which is also with um, with super blue.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: So I was little surprised that I didn't hear this.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: And a valentine tea is so special to all of we Like we need blood in we vein.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: That's how we feel about sports and spin.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: When you pass with them, come, you jump In passing, have them go jump with madness everywhere.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: Can I pass with your true freedom, make a noise for a joyful jump and jump up in the air.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: So everybody, take a jump, take a jump, take a jump up now, start a wave, start a wave, start a wave now.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: Start a wine, start a wine, start a wine up now, because it's carnival In the air, in the air.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: I'll help you put them on the ground.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: Well, have a safe week, have a productive week.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: Two weeks now I come in here to talk about Bungie and the greatness of Bungie.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: They will start to say I don't like Bungie and I'm fighting Bungie because, as usual, I have some complaints, but the greatness of Bungie cannot be matched, but somehow it's always getting pushed to the end of the episode.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: So next week for sure we will deal with Bungie and that thousand thing, bungee have an energy that I don't think I ever see no artist bring to people before.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: So we will get to that next week, right, but until then I'll have a safe week, stay productive, stay good.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: And I realize too.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: I realize now why Marshall didn't sing this, because they really destroy song.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: You know, most of the singing is destroy until Marshall say, I mean, he really, really, really couldn't sing this.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: Probably Destro was too much in the opening of the song.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll get back to it next week.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the carnival, stay safe.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: I'll talk to you next week.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: Bye.