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Ep. 3 XJ Talk Show: Big Jim, Rene & Glenn Live Phone Calls - Classic Jeep Cherokee Episode! · Jeep Talk Show

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Hi guys, my name is Tony,
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it's Mudderoy on XJTalk.com.
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This is the talk show
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And you guys out there in the chat room,
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let me know if the audio is too loud.
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I turned it up a little bit
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based on what Rini was saying.
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How's the audio to our Ustream audience?
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Sounds gray or greasy.
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Great. Okay, thank you Brian.
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Rini just called me God,
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so that must be good sound.
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Oh, he corrected it, he said good.
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As I mentioned, my name's Tony.
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I have the great pleasure of being one of
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the admins on XJTalk.com.
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And it's a lot of fun. We
1:30
talk about Jeep Cherokees.
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We give each other a hard time.
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And we pick on Wayne in New Zealand.
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He's a kiwi, which is
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a small furry fruit.
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And we love him.
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Yeah, like a family, exactly, Dalton.
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If you're listening to the podcast,
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you're missing out on some of the fun
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that we have in the chat
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room during our live broadcast.
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This show is broadcast Wednesday evenings
2:00
at 8pm Central Time.
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Central Time is also known as God's Time.
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All time should be God's Time. We all
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should be on God's Time.
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Dalton, do you have red hair?
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Hey Chris, thanks for joining us.
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Oside Chris is a fellow chat room
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attendee of Alison Rosen
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Is Your New Best Friend.
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That's a really fun show also on Ustream.
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This idea of having this Ustream show
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isn't an original idea.
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I've been watching Alison Rosen on that
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show for a while now.
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And it's a hilarious show.
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I've mentioned it to you
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guys on the website before.
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It's usually on Sunday evenings at 6pm or
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6.30pm Eastern Time, Central Time, God's
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Time, as I mentioned before.
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You should try to catch
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that. It's really a lot of fun.
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And she's much better looking than I am.
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She's better looking.
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Okay, so...
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Let's see, I heard a beep.
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That didn't sound very good.
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Anyway, we're going to
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make some phone calls today.
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We have three people that have agreed to
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be victims on the telephone today.
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Three members. They're also local
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members, local Houston members.
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And looking forward to
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talking to them on the phone.
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First off, I'm very happy to say that we
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Thank you.
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I want to thank Mark for being an
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advertiser on XJ Talk Talk Show.
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He's also a vendor on XJTalk.com.
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And provided, for a fee, of course, the
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front and rear bumpers on my Jeep.
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Sorry.
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I kept giggling when I was adding the
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sound effects to the ad.
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[Laughter]
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Mark dared me to--that was
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Mark's actual words that I read.
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So he dared me to put that on there.
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So there it is.
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I hope you enjoy it, Mark.
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Welcome, Trap Dog.
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All right. Well, let me see.
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As I mentioned on the
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pre-show sound test,
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I'm a little out of it today because
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around 3.30 or so I
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had to go help my wife.
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She spun out in a rainstorm and hit an
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inside wall on I-10.
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So I had to go out there and deal with
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the record driver and so on and so forth.
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And I may talk about that a little bit
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more here later on the show.
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Not very happy with the record company.
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Record driver was very nice, but I think
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he basically screwed me.
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And at least it was after Christmas.
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So let's see. Let me throw this in.
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XJTalk.com
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XJTalk.com
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It's where you go
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when you're not off-road.
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And I'm going to--I need to check on
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something because that beep I think was
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actually a server rebooting
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and I want to make sure that
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it's not causing a problem.
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So you guys bear with me here a second.
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I'm going to play a little music.
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[music]
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Well I had closed my closet door to my
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server rack because I didn't want the
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noise coming in from
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the fans from the servers.
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And I thought I heard a server reboot and
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I'm a little concerned
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about it getting too hot.
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So I've opened the closet door.
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If you hear the background noise, sorry.
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I'll have to try to work that out as we
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go further in these weekly podcasts.
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[music]
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Okay, so other than the screwing I got
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today by the tow truck driver,
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I really don't have a colorful yarn--well
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I probably do, but I'm a
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little wound up about that.
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Before I start on that, I think what I'll
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do is go ahead and get
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some people on the phone.
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Which means this is
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our XJTalk Live segment.
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And I did a little promo for that and it
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sounds something like this.
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[phone rings]
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It's an XJTalk Live phone call.
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Okay, so my girls
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thought that was pretty funny.
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I get the giggles sometimes when I start
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doing some of these things.
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Okay Jim, get ready to answer your phone.
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Somebody answer the phone.
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Now this worked great in rehearsal, so
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hopefully it will work as well now.
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[music]
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It's not doing it.
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Try it again.
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I wonder if I dialed all the numbers.
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I think Jim has a regular phone number,
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not an irregular phone number.
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Although that would make sense if he did.
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[phone rings]
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Okay, it's dialing now.
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Hello, big Jim.
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Hello?
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Hey, hopefully this is Jim.
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He didn't give me a crank
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number or anything, did you?
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I don't think so.
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Well Jim, thanks a lot for
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being on the show tonight.
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If you didn't already get the
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information from the pre-show,
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you do need to turn your computer down
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otherwise you're
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going to get a lot of echo
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back from listening to it over the phone
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and through your computer.
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It's all turned down, buddy.
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Good.
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So Jim, what's up? Have
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you broken anything recently?
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Nothing that I didn't break on accident.
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You broke it on accident? Okay, nothing
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on purpose. I got you.
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Yeah.
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That's always a good thing.
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So what's going on with your Jeep? I
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noticed you got the whole thing painted.
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Yeah, I finally got it all painted.
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Of course I've got it all scratched up
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again already, Pete.
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Really? You've already been
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out? I must have missed it.
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I figured out whatever it was saying.
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You mean it's broken?
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A little louder. Are you
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guys not hearing Jim okay?
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I hear me okay.
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Jim hears himself okay.
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Brian says there. Maybe
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you're just not talking as loud.
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I'll turn it up a little bit. You guys
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let me know if Jim gets too loud.
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If I get too much louder, I'll get a case
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out of my own house.
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Mugby says, "Fount."
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Can't read. I can talk better than I can
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read. Sounds fine to me.
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Jim, yes, you, not so much. Okay.
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I can turn the whole thing up, guys. I
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just didn't want it to be
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horrible like it was last week.
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There we go. I turned it up quite a bit
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more. How's that sound?
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Sounds good.
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Brian says, "Wow." Is that
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too loud, Brian? Sounds good.
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I don't know what happened last week. I
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don't know why it was sounding so bad.
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Hey, Glenn. Thanks for joining us.
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Sounds great to me, Leslie.
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Well, the podcast turned out okay. The
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Ustream thing was just really distorted.
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I was just really embarrassed. I didn't
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actually listen to that until the day
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before yesterday, I believe.
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I got busy trying to find
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out why it was messed up.
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So tell us about your Jeep, Jim. There's
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people on here that have no idea, don't
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know anything about your Jeep,
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because we do have people on that are not
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members on the site and
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haven't read any of your posts.
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So what's your Jeep and what have you
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done to it, etc., etc.?
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That was a 90-seat Cherokee. It's got a
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6.5-inch Rough Country
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lift, 33-inch Mud Kings on it.
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And those are the
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12.5-wide Mud Kings, right?
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Yeah, yeah. It used to be maroon. It's
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now an olive-grab green color.
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Of course, everybody
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knows green is the best.
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There's a theory about that, yes. I don't
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necessarily agree with that, but yes,
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there's a theory that green is the best.
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Yeah.
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Green can also be a sign of fungus, Jim.
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True, and there may be some fungus in
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there, too. I've wheeled in
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some pretty nasty mud holes.
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Do you use the pool
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noodles like Reenie does on his?
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Oh, no. I'm more than happy
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to just let the mud come in.
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Be one with nature.
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Of course, of course. Naturally, all my
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drain plugs are gone,
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as well as my carpet.
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And now that my roof rack is gone and the
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holes are still open, my
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headliner's pretty much gone.
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Oh, no.
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Oh,
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[bleep]
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what's the Jeep? It's
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supposed to get all nasty and muddy.
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Are you planning on taking out all the
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interior and maybe putting some roll-on
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or spray-on bedliner?
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Well, the headliner's coming out to put
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the cage in it because it
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gets a little crazy off-road.
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I didn't know you were going with the
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cage. That ought to be really nice.
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Yeah. I'm the local buddy here that wants
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to do it for free just to get some
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advertising, so I'll be
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plugging him a lot when it's done.
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Well, tell him to come over and advertise
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on xjtalk.com. I mean,
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five bucks a month ain't bad.
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Oh, that's for sure. I sure will tell
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him. But, yeah, I like to go a little
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crazy, so definitely
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going to put a cage in it.
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I need to get a winch one these days, but
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as long as I keep going with Randy, I
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guess I don't need to
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buy one since he has one.
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That's true.
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He's definitely pulled me
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out of some B-holes before.
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Mud holes, you mean?
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Hi, guys. I just turned on the webcam so
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people could see me.
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I see you there.
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We were testing you
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before, so nothing new.
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Are you reading the chat room?
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Oh, yeah.
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So you've got the 6.5-inch lift. You've
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got the 33-inch tires, 12.5 inches wide.
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Everything, you're ripping the interior
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out because you're going to get a free
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roll bar, or I'm
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sorry, a free cage system.
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I'm sure it's internal, right?
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Yeah. Personally, I don't see the point
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of an XO cage. What's the point of, you
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know, trying to save your body work if
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you throw a cage over the whole thing?
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But that's just me.
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Yeah, I don't know. It kind of looks
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cool, but personally, I wouldn't mind
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having an internal cage. I think that
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would be really nice.
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The paint's going to be messed up. You're
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going to be crunching some stuff, but,
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you know, the cage is really meant to
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protect the occupants, not the body work.
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I bought my Jeep purpose fully to go
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off-road and get beat up, and that's why
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I have so much fun with it.
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Well, that makes sense because you and
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Rene go about any place somebody says,
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"Hey, can you go through that mud hole
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over there?" And it's either
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you or Rene jumping into it.
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If there's somebody pull
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me out, I'll give it a shot.
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Well, I like pulling people out. I don't
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like going through that stuff. Now, I
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still maintain I'd love to
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have a buggy or just a beater.
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I think a beater would be a lot of fun,
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but I'm not taking my 98
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through stuff like that.
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Well, I'm sure right now
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my XJ is my daily driver.
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Yeah, that would be a hard thing for me
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to do, especially since it's new.
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I admit it, Brian says mud tears up junk.
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It does? I just must not have
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gone enough to get it tore up.
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Might be doesn't stop
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squeaking until I get some mud in it.
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That makes sense. Now, you have full
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leafs in the back, right?
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They're not add-a-leafs?
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No, I have four and a half inch leaf
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springs and two inch shackles.
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Because my add-a-leafs that I had on mine
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before going to the full leaf springs
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would squeak. I hated that, especially
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during the winter. It
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would get real squeaky.
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On mine is the Rough Country X-Flex
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bushing. The bushing is on the front that
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squeaks. I've tried every time.
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It's pretty unimaginable. I
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just want to quit squeaking.
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When you installed
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them, did you grease them?
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Yeah, and I've greased them many times
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since then, but I just
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want to quit squeaking.
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I guess they were going for
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functionality and not aesthetics.
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Yeah, I mean, it squeaks like crazy, but
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like I said, once I get some mud in
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there, it quit squeaking nice.
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Well, that's a good reason to be in the
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mud quite often then.
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I don't care how bad it's broke. If it'll
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move, it'll be in mud.
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So you did say the plan for the internal
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cage. Anything else? I mean, that's quite
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a bit, that on its own, but...
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Actually, I'm pretty satisfied the way it
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is. I mean, I'd like a cage and maybe to
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re-gear it, but I don't want to build it
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much more because then it's not as much
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fun. If you can go over everything,
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there's no challenge.
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So I like there to be some challenge. I
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mean, you know, I rock. I mean, you know,
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all your axles and all that stuff would
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be nice, but then you can make it over
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everything. There's no fun to that.
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Yeah, I guess so. I think it would be
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kind of cool to have something that would
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go anywhere, and then I can see how it's
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starting over. There's
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always the thrill of the build.
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True.
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But when I finish building one, I usually
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sell it, so I never want to call this one
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finished because I don't want to sell it.
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Oh, I didn't realize that. I know that
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you had talked about some of the other
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type of builds that you've done. I didn't
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know that you just
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basically flipped them.
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Well, the amazing thing is I've done
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everything. I've done low riders, muscle
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cars, you know, four-wheel drives, but
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I've never met a better group of people
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than when I started building Jeeps.
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Well, that's interesting. I know that the
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one of her, I had my 72 Nova with the
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327, and it was seemed like everybody
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just wanted to race and everybody. I
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mean, that was kind of the reason for it.
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But there wasn't a lot of conversation,
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friendship. It was more
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rivalry than anything else.
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Right.
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Yeah, maybe the nature of the Jeep is you
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don't go off-road unless you've got a
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buddy with you, and you need to be
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friendly with your buddy. Otherwise, he
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might not pull you out. He may just stand
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there and laugh at you.
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True. Yeah, and I've done the race car
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thing, too. It's just the people I've met
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with Jeeps are just amazing people. You
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know, they're easy to get along with.
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I mean, there are a few A-holes around
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that like to wield their money instead of
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their Jeeps that I don't get along with.
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But for the most part, I get
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along great with Jeep people.
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Well, I don't know. Like I said, maybe
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it's just the nature of the type
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activities that the Jeepers do. Now,
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there's always unsavory
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people in any hobby or group.
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Oh, yeah, I've met them, too.
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On the Jeep trails.
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Yeah, it seems kind of strange. You know,
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I guess you get to get a mindset that
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you're unstoppable, you don't need help,
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and you get out there on the trail and
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act that way. It just
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seems like a bad plan to me.
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Oh, I always need help.
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Yeah, I think everybody's going to get in
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trouble sooner or later.
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If you don't, you're
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not pressing yourself.
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You shouldn't come out to Huntsville with
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XJ Rat and I and his son and his son's
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friend. That was an interesting
19:33
experience. I don't know if you saw the
19:35
video that I put up on the ATV races.
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The pictures and videos were pretty cool,
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but I ended up having them go to work
19:44
that day, so I
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couldn't make it out there.
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Well, like I always say, it's better to
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have a job and not be able to go do
19:51
something than have all the time in the
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world and not no money to go do it.
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I don't know. I hate it when work gets in
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the way of my wheeling, though.
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Well, we all need to win the lottery so
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we can just wheel and have fun, not have
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to worry about stuff. I still think there
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ought to be challenges in life.
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Without work, I don't guess there would
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be as many challenges.
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True.
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Some jobs are more
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challenging than others, of course.
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Yeah, luckily there's no challenge to my
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job. If the only new I didn't really know
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what I was talking about,
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I'd probably be in trouble.
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Well, just don't fall off
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that roof while you're up there.
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I ain't got to worry about falling off.
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Maybe getting pushed off might be a
20:37
problem, but falling
20:38
off, no, it won't happen.
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Wow. So I guess that's the part where
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you're telling somebody that they missed
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a spot here or this isn't right, this
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isn't going to fly,
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this isn't going to pass.
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Yeah, them fellas are going to get upset
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when we tell them I've
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got to do it over again.
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Do you explain to them that that's your
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job and if you don't find something
20:58
wrong, somebody's going to say, "Jim,
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what the hell are you doing?"
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Yeah, they don't really see it that way.
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Trapdog is asking me, "Is that photo of a
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real?" Yes, it is a real photo. It's not
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really my Jeep on the edge of
21:14
a mountain, it's a photo chop.
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Yeah, it's a real photo chop.
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But it is a real photo.
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So we're going to take
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your Jeep out with them again.
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When I get some sliders.
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Some sliders?
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And also need to fix that over the rain.
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It's all mud out there, it'll slide.
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It was mud, I was in mud
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whenever I bent the lower rocker.
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True.
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Well, how about this, you come out there
21:45
this weekend and any damage that happens,
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I'll fix it and paint it.
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Oh, no way.
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Oh, come on.
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It will be bent. It will be bent until
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it's fixed and I can't
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let it leave my sight.
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I understand that.
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Not really, I don't
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care how much mine is bent.
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That's the nice thing about having a
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vehicle that, you know,
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it's an older vehicle.
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It costs $800, $1,000,
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$1,500, $2,000, whatever.
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And the other part of it is I would like
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to have a trailer and
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something to pull it with.
22:26
And then I think it
22:27
would just be a lot of fun.
22:28
Then the only thing I'd have to worry
22:29
about is when it breaks,
22:32
getting it back to the trailer.
22:35
I've only paid about $1,200 for mine and
22:38
I figured by the time I'm finished I'll
22:40
have about $8,000 in it.
22:41
And then by then it might be
22:43
worth, I don't know, $3,000.
22:44
Oh, I understand. But in my mind it's a
22:47
lot better than going out and getting
22:49
like that Toyota that that guy showed up
22:51
at, I think you guys were telling me at
22:53
Creekside that he showed up with it.
22:54
And the $40,000 Toyota and then he put
22:57
the nice Creekside down the side of it.
22:59
True.
23:00
So I'll take an $8,000 trail rig any day,
23:06
a capable, very capable trail rig any day
23:09
over a nice $40,000 vehicle that I don't
23:12
want to take out there.
23:13
It's bad enough just
23:15
with this 98 that I have.
23:16
And I'm really only this
23:17
way because we bought it new.
23:21
So I've had it, you know, I've had it the
23:23
entire time and I don't want to see it. I
23:25
don't want to see it trashed.
23:27
Yeah, I mean, I maybe have three grand in
23:29
my Jeep built the way it is and I bought
23:32
my four wheeler stock for almost $14,000.
23:36
So you have an ATV?
23:38
Oh yeah, I have a Polaris 850.
23:41
Was watching those races. I've wanted one
23:44
of those for ever since I saw one at a,
23:48
God, I can't remember if it was Yamaha.
23:50
It's more Suzuki now. I think it was
23:51
Suzuki, that my
23:52
brother-in-law was buying a motorcycle app.
23:56
Oh man, that thing was beautiful. But I
23:57
have absolutely no place to drive it and
24:00
I have no place to get it
24:01
to someplace to drive it.
24:02
So it would just be a complete waste of
24:04
money, but I'd love to have one.
24:05
I guess I could put it in the living room
24:07
and just sit on it and watch TV.
24:09
Well, it sounds like, you know, with your
24:12
wife Rick this morning, you might need to
24:13
replace that Mustang with a trailer.
24:16
I need to replace my
24:18
bank account with money.
24:21
Yeah, I can understand that.
24:24
Actually, that spin was my fault because
24:29
we need to put front tires on it, but we
24:32
couldn't afford to put the back tires on
24:33
there at the same time.
24:35
So the back tires, although they passed
24:37
inspection, were not as good
24:39
as what they should have been.
24:40
I firmly believe that's
24:44
what made her hydroplane.
24:45
When you don't have places for the water
24:46
to get out of quickly, it has a tendency
24:49
to slip and slide on you.
24:51
Yeah, sometimes you've got to do what
24:53
you've got to do. When
24:53
money's tight, you've got to...
24:56
I was looking at, you know, they had that
24:58
LifeLock thing commercial on this
25:00
morning, talking about
25:01
how they can protect you.
25:02
I didn't think. My
25:03
dog protected right now.
25:04
As soon as somebody runs my car, they
25:06
know they don't want to steal it.
25:10
Yeah, well, with this economy and the way
25:13
the economy has been for a while, I think
25:14
there's a lot of people in
25:15
the same boat that you're in.
25:18
Well, Jim, I could sit here and talk to
25:19
you for a lot longer, but I was going to
25:21
try to keep these segments to 15 minutes,
25:24
and we've gone well over that just
25:26
because it was an
25:26
interesting conversation.
25:27
I want to thank you a lot for being on
25:30
the show, and is there anything that
25:31
you'd like to shout out or say to the
25:34
guys in the chat room
25:34
before I let you go?
25:37
Huh? Just want to say howdy to everybody
25:38
in the chat room, and I want to tell
25:41
Wayne to leave those midgets alone. But
25:44
other than that, I guess that's about it.
25:46
Jim, we don't judge on xtradetalk.com.
25:49
That's why I go there.
25:52
If Lane likes the midgets, we're going to
25:54
leave him alone on it. Oh, one thing I
25:56
would like to do, and I
25:56
almost forgot about it.
25:58
I've been on you guys to call into the
26:01
voicemail number and leave a message, but
26:05
the begging and pleading and threatening
26:07
isn't really getting there.
26:08
And by the way, that number that you can
26:10
call and leave questions and comments to
26:13
be possibly played on
26:14
the show is 530-675-4102.
26:20
That's 530-675-4102.
26:24
You just call its only voicemail.
26:26
Nobody's going to answer. The phone
26:28
doesn't ring anywhere that
26:29
anybody's going to hear it.
26:30
So it's 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
26:33
Call. Use colorful language if you like,
26:36
because I can always bleep out the words.
26:40
And I think it would be pretty f***ing
26:42
funny anyway hearing it that way.
26:44
So please call and leave questions and
26:47
comments for the show.
26:49
Some of you may not be able to get on the
26:50
show because of the time the show comes
26:52
on and you're working or you're in 27
26:55
time zones away from here like Wayne.
26:58
I'm surprised Wayne's here in the chat
27:00
room today. I guess he's on vacation, or
27:03
"halls" as he puts it.
27:04
But Jim, thank you again very much for
27:06
being on the show, and hopefully we can
27:09
have you on again sometime real soon.
27:11
But before I let you go, if you would,
27:13
tell me why you like XJ
27:15
Talk or why you don't.
27:18
Well, I love XJ Talk because you can come
27:21
on there and post anything you want and
27:24
nobody's going to tell
27:24
you to search for an answer.
27:25
If they have an answer, they're going to
27:27
tell you what the answer is.
27:29
And people on XJ Talk actually wheel
27:31
their jeeps. They don't talk
27:32
about doing it, they do it.
27:34
With the exception of me.
27:36
Well, I've seen you wheel your jeep. I
27:38
don't care what kind of help people give
27:39
you. I've seen you do it.
27:43
Thank you very much, Jim. And hopefully
27:45
we can get you on the show again if
27:47
you'll agree to do it sometime.
27:50
Hey, I will be on any
27:51
time you want with me.
27:53
Thank you very much,
27:54
Jim. Have a very good night.
27:57
Well, thank you very much, Jim. That was
28:04
great. I really enjoyed
28:05
that. Hopefully you guys did too.
28:07
And hopefully these things will get a
28:09
little more interesting from the
28:13
interviewer standpoint
28:14
as I get better at this.
28:16
It takes me a while to...
28:21
It takes me a while to get geared up.
28:24
I made the comment the other day. I
28:26
forget where it was that I put it, but
28:28
basically I said that
28:30
I'm saying "uh" a lot.
28:32
And basically I'm trying to have to
28:33
relearn how to talk again because I've
28:35
been married for 18 years.
28:37
My wife thought it was funny.
28:40
Okay, so Glenn, I think I saw Glenn in
28:43
the chat room. Glenn, if you're there and
28:46
ready to take a phone
28:47
call, I'm going to...
28:49
Yeah, there's XJ Rat, XJ Ratman.
28:53
Glenn, I'm going to give you a call if
28:54
you're ready. I'm going to call you on
28:55
your non-cell line because
28:58
you broke your cell phone.
29:01
I thought maybe you were going to get out
29:02
of being on the call when I first started
29:05
reading that and it said that you had
29:09
broke your cell phone.
29:11
So I'm calling you on your home phone.
29:17
If I can dial the number and talk at the
29:19
same time, thank God I'm not chewing gum.
29:25
Uh oh, that's not a good sound.
29:27
[phone ringing]
29:34
Glenn, are you trying
29:36
to tell me something?
29:42
If somebody's on the phone at your house,
29:44
Glenn, I can go ahead
29:45
and give Rene a call.
29:46
[phone ringing]
29:54
I guess he's getting out of the call. No,
29:56
not necessarily. It's all voluntary. He
30:00
doesn't have to be on
30:01
the show. He volunteered.
30:04
There was no coercing at all.
30:10
Well, at least this gives me an
30:12
opportunity to play my
30:13
segment, uh, uh, Prolo again.
30:16
[phone ringing]
30:17
Somebody's calling. Somebody answered
30:20
your home phone. It's an
30:22
XJTalk Live phone call.
30:25
Alright, let's see. Try this number
30:28
again. Pay attention to what you're
30:30
doing. Dial the number properly.
30:33
[phone ringing]
30:44
Nope. It's still busy. So, maybe the, um,
30:49
the wife, I don't know if, uh, if Glenn's
30:51
son lives with him or
30:52
not. Maybe he's on the phone.
30:55
So, uh, Rene, that means you're up. I'm
30:57
gonna give you a call.
31:00
Rene is, uh, sitting up in his chair,
31:04
tightening his tie, and getting ready to
31:07
talk to us on the phone.
31:18
Please enjoy this selection while waiting
31:20
for the person you are calling to answer.
31:23
[phone ringing]
31:24
Where the f*** was the
31:25
selection? All I got was a ring.
31:28
What's going on, man?
31:29
I was sitting there watching you, so I
31:31
knew you were calling me.
31:32
What's that?
31:33
I said I was sitting there watching you
31:34
and listening to you at the same time, so
31:36
I knew you were calling me.
31:37
Good. That's the, uh, the benefit. I was
31:39
actually gonna try to get to you guys and
31:41
let you know what to expect, um, and not
31:45
just, um, out of the blue call, but, uh,
31:48
I figured I could just, you know, kinda
31:49
wing it, uh, with, with the, uh, having
31:52
to go out and deal with the wrecker and
31:54
the wreck and everything today.
31:55
By the way, guys, I, uh, this is, uh,
31:57
Rene Arganard, uh, on XJTalk.com.
32:01
Uh, he's actually one of our moderators
32:03
on, uh, on the server, on the, uh, site.
32:06
And, um, really appreciate
32:09
him being on the phone tonight.
32:10
Thank you for accepting our call and, uh,
32:13
our questions and our razzing, I'm sure.
32:17
Oh, I can take it.
32:18
So what's up? Well, what's the, the last
32:22
I remember hearing is the
32:25
transmission was leaking and,
32:29
Oh yeah, I got that fixed.
32:31
And there was something else. Was it the
32:32
power steering that was leaking?
32:34
Oh, last time I got it stuck, I took the
32:35
alternator out. I took, I took the
32:40
alternator out, did the transmission,
32:43
water pump, all kinds
32:45
of stuff at one time.
32:47
But did you have fun?
32:50
Oh, yeah. Until I got it out and realized
32:52
it tore up a lot of stuff.
32:55
You were at Creekside?
32:56
Yeah, I was at Creekside. I went through
32:58
one of the big holes that I don't even
33:00
think you've seen before.
33:01
You know where the white, of course,
33:02
nobody on here will know, but where the
33:04
White Rock Road is, if you're going down
33:07
the White Rock Road, like we're going to
33:08
where that all that mud was
33:09
that we're all playing in.
33:11
Right.
33:12
It's to the right of all that.
33:15
Well, I was just following you around
33:16
those, those two, I think it's two times
33:19
I've been out there.
33:20
So I went wherever, wherever you went.
33:22
And if you didn't take
33:23
me there, I didn't see it.
33:25
Yeah, no, we didn't go there. Because I
33:27
knew it was there, but I couldn't find it
33:28
when we went. And now I know where it's
33:30
at, which that hole is
33:32
really, really nasty.
33:34
Well, I think the last time, I think this
33:35
is right. The last time we went, they
33:37
were doing a lot of clearing of the, the
33:39
small trees and stuff.
33:41
And we went out there and drove around
33:43
the tree stumps a bit. Has there been
33:47
much more? I don't know when the last
33:48
time you went was, but has there been
33:49
much more going on at the off-road part?
33:53
Is it better or worse?
33:53
Last time I was out there, it was a lot
33:55
more done. They've got all that cleared
33:59
out now. And we can actually, Rini was
34:04
only 20 minutes when he broke his Jeep.
34:06
Actually, I think it was like 10 minutes,
34:08
but that's beside the point.
34:10
That's horrible.
34:11
Yeah, I really was. I put my, I put my
34:15
Jeep out there. We were going through
34:16
this whole trail out there by where they
34:17
cleared all the prop, all that land off
34:19
and actually stuck a stick through my
34:22
radiator. Like out there, the
34:24
very first trail we went on.
34:27
That stick had to be pretty high off the
34:29
ground because you guys don't know. You
34:32
have a three and a half inch lift on
34:34
your, on your Jeep and
34:35
33s, right? 33 inch tires?
34:37
Yeah, actually, yes. The all trains are
34:41
33s and then the TSLs are a true 33 and a
34:45
half inches tall. So I, when I have my
34:47
TSLs on there, I am a
34:49
true 33 inch tire on there.
34:52
Right. It makes a big difference. I know
34:55
when I first saw the, saw you out there
34:57
with the 33s, it really feels, feels that
35:00
wheel well. And of course, your bent
35:02
fender is a testament to
35:04
how well it feels the fender.
35:06
Yeah. What fender? I've pretty much taken
35:09
the entire front fenders off of it now.
35:11
I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
35:13
It's a fender here. Yes, it is.
35:15
Yeah, I've seen, I've seen pictures, but
35:17
I haven't seen it since you did the more,
35:19
the more trimming. And for those of you
35:21
on here that aren't familiar with what we
35:22
do with, with the Jeeps, basically, we
35:26
lift them to so that we
35:28
can get bigger tires on them.
35:29
And we get bigger tires on them so we get
35:32
more distance between the ground and the
35:33
bottom of the differential, which is that
35:35
big round thing that's
35:36
in the middle of the axle.
35:38
So as really the lifting is fun as far as
35:42
sitting up high and everything, and it's
35:44
nice if you're going to be going through
35:45
water. But the only reason for lifting a
35:48
Jeep is to get bigger tires on.
35:50
So a common thing that happens with Jeep
35:55
owners, specifically Jeep Cherokees, it
35:57
may be the other Jeeps as well, but a
36:00
Jeep owner will say, a Jeep Cherokee
36:02
owner will say, "Hey, I don't think I
36:03
need more than a 1" lift
36:05
or a 2" lift or a 3" lift.
36:08
And for some reason, they come in 1⁄2"
36:11
increments on the Jeeps.
36:13
And so Reaney got a 3⁄2" lift. And you
36:16
know, correct me if I'm wrong here,
36:17
Reaney, but it was basically, I don't
36:19
need anything bigger than that. I'm just
36:20
going to run 31" tires and do some
36:23
off-road stuff and yada, yada.
36:25
And then he puts that on there, gets the
36:27
3⁄2" on there, and he goes out and
36:30
drives off-road, which we call wheeling.
36:32
And now you want a 4⁄2".
36:36
Yes, you know, when I built the Jeep
36:38
originally, I built it for an event that
36:41
Naxia was putting on, and I wanted to be
36:44
in a 31" tire class.
36:46
So I built a Jeep with that in mind. I
36:50
put the 31" on there with a 3⁄2" lift.
36:53
You don't need any more to run 31". But I
36:56
always knew I was going to put 33" on it
36:58
and knew I was going
36:59
to do fender trimming.
37:00
Right.
37:01
And I was never even a thought. And with
37:03
my all-trains, my fender trimming that I
37:05
did with the 30" when I put them first on
37:08
was fine. I didn't hit the fenders at all
37:11
to speak of with the first trimming.
37:12
But when I put the TSLs on there, it got
37:16
so, the tires were so much taller that I
37:20
just ate the fenders out of it. So I had
37:22
to trim more to keep the
37:23
fenders from hitting so bad.
37:24
Right. So I remember you telling me about
37:28
that because I was giving you a hard time
37:30
about the 3⁄2" lift when we first went
37:32
out to Spring Creek.
37:34
And then you explained that to me about
37:36
being in that event, which
37:37
you were in. Didn't you come in?
37:40
Second place. Yeah, I sure did.
37:42
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, second
37:43
place. So you actually accomplished. And
37:46
you had the automatic locker in at that
37:50
time. Is that correct?
37:53
You know, I don't remember. I think I
37:56
either had the locker or I already welded
37:58
it. I don't remember. You know, because
37:59
I'm thinking the first time we ever met
38:01
was out at Spring Creek.
38:04
Spring Creek. And you
38:05
had the automatic locker.
38:06
And the second time we went out there, I
38:09
didn't have the locker. I'd already taken
38:10
it out and welded the rear because I got
38:12
sick of hearing it pop.
38:13
Oh, man, that was loud. I was really
38:15
surprised how loud that was.
38:17
Right. So that's the reason I got rid of
38:18
that. I got sick of hearing that thing
38:20
pop and decided that, you know, instead
38:23
of listening to this, I would rather weld
38:26
the rear end and not
38:28
listen to it pop anymore.
38:29
So that's what I did. And I've been
38:31
running it like that for a
38:33
year and four or five months now.
38:35
And I'm just now getting to the point
38:39
where I'm just now getting to that point
38:42
where the rear end is starting to act up.
38:45
I'm really starting to
38:46
notice some bad stuff.
38:48
Well, you've had the what was it, the
38:49
driver's side rear axle or the rear wheel
38:53
has got the wobbles to
38:54
it for a while now, right?
38:56
Passion for rear axle ever since I got
38:58
hit. That's when it kind of did that.
39:00
Oh, OK. So it wasn't I thought you had
39:01
done that when you took it off road, but
39:04
it's kind of got the
39:05
little wiggles to it.
39:06
Yeah, no, that was when I got hit. OK. So
39:09
all of the all of that don't know or
39:11
haven't read all the
39:12
posts that I've posted.
39:13
I actually took it out with my Jeep. I
39:15
had a Toyota running in the back of me
39:17
and a guy called all people actually
39:21
totaled my Jeep and gave me my Jeep back
39:24
in twenty two hundred dollars.
39:26
So, yeah, that's kind of I think I asked
39:30
this every time. Did it
39:30
total the Toyota or do you know?
39:33
Oh, yes. Yeah. Toyota was who, Barb? And
39:35
that was like a Camry or something.
39:38
Yeah, it was a new model Camry like a oh,
39:41
seven or eight Camry.
39:43
This is why the government wants to get
39:46
these Jeep Cherokee off the road because
39:48
they just wipe out the new cars.
39:52
Well, and also don't forget that I do
39:55
have aftermarket bumpers on my although
39:57
my bumpers are homemade.
39:59
They are very, very, very solid.
40:01
They're very solid and they're bright
40:03
green, which which is they are bright
40:05
green, which is good for
40:06
at least 50 horsepower.
40:08
Yeah, I don't know about that, but OK.
40:12
Well, it's good. They're
40:13
good for seeing that's for sure.
40:14
Well, the toy, the lady in the Toyota
40:18
certainly saw that. I'm sure she saw that
40:20
coming up really fast.
40:22
Yeah, of course, she used the excuse. My
40:24
gas pedal stuck. So, yeah, you know what?
40:26
I actually think that car was newer.
40:28
I think that car was was a maybe a oh
40:33
nine or 2010 because it was one of the
40:36
ones that had the recall thing.
40:37
Oh, really? Here that was. Wow. It's it's
40:42
it's sad anytime
40:42
anybody is is in an accident.
40:44
But it's it's very nice to know that at
40:48
least with the it's hard to say
40:51
aftermarket aftermarket bumpers,
40:53
that you built specifically the rear
40:55
bumper that you built for your your Jeep
40:57
Cherokee was able to let you just drive
41:00
home and put twenty two
41:02
hundred dollars in your pocket.
41:04
Yeah, I didn't fix anything that had
41:06
happened to the Jeep. No, no visual
41:10
damage whatsoever to my Jeep.
41:12
You know, a couple little kinks in the
41:17
rear body, but not enough
41:18
to even worry about. Right.
41:21
Yeah, I was really surprised because
41:23
because I think on the site you had said
41:26
about the wrinkles and you can see it in
41:28
the body and they totaled the vehicle.
41:30
And then when I saw it, it was like,
41:31
there's nothing wrong with this thing.
41:33
And then I think you
41:34
showed me the wrinkles.
41:35
And I mean, you look you were looking at
41:37
that wrinkle like I look at small
41:39
scratches on my Jeep.
41:40
You would only you would have to know the
41:43
Jeep to be able to tell
41:44
it was there. Correct.
41:46
So there's no way in the world without
41:48
knowing it. And now as much as I've
41:49
wielded as hard as I've wielded, I'm
41:52
actually getting to the point where Jim
41:53
was telling you he's going to cage his.
41:55
I am doing the same. I've got to the
41:57
point now where I actually am having
42:00
issues with my tailgate closing stuff.
42:02
I've been it so much. But for all of you
42:05
all that don't know from the twisting,
42:08
going off road, twisting
42:09
the body, I got you. Right.
42:11
And for all of y'all out here who don't
42:13
know who I am, I'm the one that like Jim
42:17
said, you point me to the biggest,
42:19
nastiest thing and say,
42:20
I bet you can't do that.
42:21
I'm the one who will attempt it.
42:24
Oh, Rene's the perfect person to go
42:26
wheeling with because he'll go first and
42:30
he'll he'll wait for you
42:31
to get your camera ready.
42:33
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I will. I don't mind at
42:35
all. Take a picture of me stuck. There
42:37
should be if I ever put all the stuck
42:39
pictures I have on here.
42:41
I would have a thread all of my own. I've
42:43
stuck my Jeep so many different times and
42:45
places. It's ridiculous.
42:48
Dalton says you're the
42:49
Chuck Norris of jeeping.
42:52
Well, I don't know about that, but I'm
42:53
the Chuck Norris of getting stuck.
42:56
Well, getting getting
42:58
stuck is a good teacher.
43:00
Well, and also, I'm not a you know, with
43:02
the winch, you really have a total
43:04
different outlook on what you'll attempt
43:06
to do because with the winch, you know,
43:09
you know, no matter how stuck you get,
43:11
you can get yourself out in a bind.
43:15
You know, when you're something there to
43:16
hook to, you get yourself out.
43:18
Yeah, I've been the winch that I have on
43:21
the Jeep now. I've had a four wheel drive
43:22
before, but this is the first winch that
43:24
I've ever had on on a vehicle.
43:27
And really my first first
43:28
hand experience with a winch.
43:30
Winches are just amazing. And for those
43:33
of you that aren't familiar with the off
43:35
road terms, it's winch
43:37
with an eye. It's not a girl.
43:39
You know, no, that's only Wayne's. Yes.
43:44
Sorry, Wayne, you still out here?
43:48
Well, I don't seem talking.
43:49
Oh, he said something. He
43:51
says they're still talking.
43:54
I guess he came back. Wayne, you didn't
43:56
have an earthquake while
43:57
we were talking, did you?
44:01
We need to put him on here. Yeah. He's
44:04
wanting to listen to. Yeah, he is.
44:07
He has that Yankee accent.
44:10
Yeah, really Yankee
44:11
like from who knows where.
44:15
It's so funny whenever I'm chatting or
44:18
actually talking voice wise with Wayne,
44:21
he'll say that really does talk funny.
44:24
I know. It was like, OK, Wayne, you do
44:28
realize you're talking to a bunch of us
44:30
that live in the same spot, right?
44:33
All right. Was there anything else that
44:38
you wanted to cover?
44:39
I was going to cut this a little short
44:40
since we're getting up close to 8 45 now
44:43
and went a little long with Jim.
44:46
I was going to get Glenn on here before
44:47
we got too far down the road.
44:50
Yeah, no problem. Like I told you before,
44:56
man, I'll come on
44:57
anytime. Just give me a call.
45:00
Especially if all of us don't know, I am
45:04
auto repair. I've been in
45:05
auto repair for 20 plus years.
45:08
I've owned my own repair
45:09
shop, graduated from UTI.
45:14
There was something about
45:17
it. I am not above answering.
45:19
So even on here, if somebody has a
45:20
question and they need to maybe make a
45:24
estimate at it, just ask.
45:26
I'm not above trying to answer y'all.
45:29
Just for everybody's info.
45:30
You're kind of in a bad spot with your
45:32
cell phone, Rene. You need
45:33
to move just a little bit.
45:35
Did I not get you any of that?
45:37
Yeah, most of it, but it was kind of
45:39
choppy. And at one point you cut out for
45:40
about three seconds.
45:42
Oh, okay.
45:45
That's okay.
45:45
What I was saying though is anytime you
45:49
need somebody on here, Tony, just give me
45:50
a call, man. I'll be
45:50
on. I don't mind at all.
45:52
You know what I mean?
45:52
I don't mind talking.
45:53
Well, I always enjoy talking to you in
45:55
person and I enjoy talking to you here.
45:57
You've always got a wealth of knowledge
45:58
to share with everybody as well as you
46:01
always do on the side.
46:03
In fact, here recently you haven't been
46:05
on XJTalk.com that much and we miss you.
46:08
I know I miss seeing you on there.
46:09
So hopefully we can see
46:11
more of you on the site.
46:13
Oh, I posted a bunch of times there.
46:16
It's good. Well, let me, just like I did
46:19
with Big Jim, let me get you to do a
46:22
little plug here for XJTalk.com.
46:25
If you would, tell me why you like or
46:27
don't like XJTalk.com.
46:29
You know, pretty much same thing Jim
46:31
said. You know, everybody I've met off
46:34
the site is absolutely big people.
46:37
I've met people now that I consider very
46:39
much from here and, you know, same thing.
46:43
I've never been one to talk on a forum
46:46
and on this forum I
46:48
pretty much can't shut me up.
46:50
Oh, you know, same deal. Just like Wayne.
46:53
I mean, just like Wayne and Big Jim.
46:56
And this is kind of, if I'm on the web,
46:59
I'm generally on XJTalk.
47:02
Well, I know we really appreciate it and
47:04
I'm sure there's several
47:04
others out there that do too.
47:06
I know Wayne does because
47:07
you're a good target of his.
47:09
Yeah, I know. He's on here too. By the
47:10
way, you need to be honest.
47:11
We can hear your great accent.
47:14
Well, we're going to
47:14
get him on through Skype.
47:17
I bet you if he's still on vacation next
47:20
Wednesday, we'll get him on here.
47:22
Because I think it's like 3 p.m. coming
47:24
up on 4 p.m. Thursday his time.
47:28
So maybe we can get him on next week.
47:32
All right. Well, you go ahead and make
47:35
some more phone calls and we
47:37
will talk to you all later.
47:38
All right, man. Thanks a lot.
47:39
All right. Talk to you later, Tony.
47:40
Bye-bye.
47:42
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48:15
Okay, let me just check here real quick.
48:22
Glenn, is everything a go for the phone
48:24
call? Are you still there? XJ Rat.
48:29
I noticed a little bit ago, Glenn said
48:32
that the phone rang when I called, but it
48:35
was a call for his wife.
48:36
And the internet went out at the same
48:39
time. So I don't know. There may be
48:43
either some evil entities surrounding
48:45
Glenn's house or some angelic ones.
48:48
I'm not quite sure. Anyway,
48:49
let's try to give him a call.
48:55
You guys let me know if you get tired of
48:56
hearing this. This is the third time I
48:58
played it and I thought it was funny.
49:00
But, you know, like I said, just feel
49:03
free to let me know if
49:03
this is just too much.
49:05
Somebody's calling. Somebody answered the
49:09
phone. It's an XJ Talk live phone call.
49:13
And yes, it is. And you can tell it's
49:15
live whenever you call
49:16
somebody and you get a busy.
49:21
And let's see what happens on this call.
49:27
Calling Glenn.
49:35
That's really quiet.
49:39
Hello.
49:40
Hi, I got to speak with Glenn.
49:44
Well, I'm calling to see the Tony.
49:47
I'm sorry.
49:49
I was calling to see the Tony McElroy.
49:51
Oh, I'm sorry.
49:54
Looks like we caught a call coming in.
49:57
I'm sorry.
49:58
Looks like we caught a call coming in. Let's try that again.
50:08
I bet you somebody could work out the
50:10
phone number by listening to the tones.
50:16
It worked that time.
50:20
Excellent.
50:20
Hey, Glenn, how you doing?
50:21
This is Glenn XJ Rat from
50:24
XJTalk.com, his member ID.
50:29
Back in the CB days, we
50:30
would have called him Handles.
50:32
Yeah.
50:34
Let's see.
50:35
Give me a little audio there, Glenn.
50:36
I think your audio is down a little bit.
50:38
I need to bring it up a bit.
50:41
Yeah, you're talking real quiet also.
50:45
I don't know what it
50:46
is with the phone line.
50:48
Actually, this is the
50:49
way I have it hooked up.
50:50
If I turn it up too loud, then my voice
50:52
will come through the telephone more than
50:54
it does the microphone.
50:55
So it's down a little bit.
50:57
I turned it up a little bit.
50:58
Okay.
50:59
Yeah, it's a little better now.
51:01
Excellent.
51:02
So I recently went up to, what was the
51:08
name of that park, Glenn?
51:09
General Sam.
51:09
Yeah.
51:10
I went to General Sam's.
51:12
I had been wanting to go, but since my
51:16
Jeep has a tendency to
51:17
run hot on the highways,
51:18
I've said I wasn't going to do that
51:20
anymore and out of the blue, Glenn
51:23
offered to give me a ride up there.
51:25
And it was very generous.
51:27
It was a lot of fun.
51:28
And I got to hate your Jeep all the way
51:32
up there because I kept
51:33
watching the temperature gauge
51:34
and seeing it never go over 210 degrees.
51:37
Here, I thought you were
51:37
looking at my speedometer.
51:38
No, I was – I didn't
51:40
care how fast you went.
51:41
I was telling my wife about the braking.
51:45
I think it's something different about
51:46
not being in control of the vehicle.
51:48
And I've wondered a few times if you were
51:51
aware how fast the vehicle
51:53
in front of us was coming up.
51:55
But I terrify her in the car when I drive
52:00
the Jeep, so I figured you
52:01
knew what you were doing.
52:02
And after you didn't hit anybody for the
52:03
first 15, 30 minutes,
52:04
I just forgot about it.
52:05
Yeah, well, look out on the bright side.
52:07
The front of my Jeep's undamaged, so –
52:09
That was another great selling point.
52:12
When I got in, there was no damage to the
52:13
vehicle, and you obviously
52:15
drove a ways to get to my house.
52:18
Other than the other
52:19
gentleman, I agree with him.
52:21
The Mudders, when they catch the fenders,
52:23
they just hold them under.
52:25
Oh, boy, don't they?
52:26
Yep, the Super Swampers.
52:28
Yeah, those were some nice-looking tires.
52:30
I've always been fond of the
52:32
BFG, the BF Goodrich Mudders.
52:36
But those were some nice-looking tires
52:37
that you had on there,
52:37
very aggressive-looking.
52:39
I was really surprised how
52:40
well they rode on the highway.
52:43
Well, I think they ride like garbage.
52:48
Well, I guess – I don't know. What do
52:50
you normally have on there?
52:52
Well, like, on my truck,
52:52
I've got a Pirelli's on it.
52:55
And that's nice and smooth, whereas the
52:59
Jeep, you get over 40 miles an hour.
53:02
It's really howling.
53:03
And then when you get below 5 miles an
53:05
hour, it seems like the brakes are
53:06
rubbing metal on metal,
53:07
but it's actually the tires.
53:09
Oh, yeah, that's right. I asked you about
53:10
that, because I thought you had
53:11
overheated the brakes while we were out
53:13
there at General Sam's.
53:14
And my God, I tell you one thing, and I
53:16
made mention of this on XJTalk.com.
53:22
Whenever I go off-road, I don't get as
53:26
aggressive as what you do.
53:28
And it was really interesting to see,
53:31
because I've only ever been off-roading
53:35
in my vehicle and in
53:37
control of my vehicle.
53:38
So other than watching somebody else
53:40
ahead of me or behind me or standing
53:42
there and watching somebody go by,
53:44
I've never experienced it
53:45
firsthand as a passenger.
53:47
So that was a great learning experience.
53:49
And I also learned how far – Glenn has
53:51
a 1998 Jeep Cherokee just like I do.
53:55
I can't remember. Do you have a 4.5-inch
53:57
lift on yours, or is it 3.5?
53:59
It's 3.5, and then I've also got
54:01
3.25-inch spaces up front and lift
54:04
shackles in the rear.
54:05
Okay, so it's basically
54:06
the same size lift I have.
54:08
And you had 32-inch tires. So basically,
54:11
we have very, very similar vehicles.
54:15
So riding along with Glenn, I now have a
54:20
better idea of how far I can lean to the
54:24
left or right before it will roll over.
54:27
Because Glenn didn't roll his, and I
54:29
figured if you've got to learn how far
54:32
you have to go before it rolls,
54:34
it's best to learn in
54:34
somebody else's vehicle.
54:35
Sorry, Glenn, but that's
54:36
just the way I feel about it.
54:38
Okay, no problem. We were really relaxed
54:41
that day because there
54:43
was nobody else with us.
54:44
If there had been another vehicle, I'd
54:45
have been a little more daring.
54:47
Yeah, what the hell happened with that? I
54:49
mean, there was what, supposed to be two
54:50
or three other people going with us?
54:52
I contacted Scott, XJ4IV, and he said
54:56
that he had to work.
54:58
Jim couldn't go because he had to work,
55:00
and I never did hear
55:01
anything from Fireman Ray.
55:04
And I didn't – I'm probably going to
55:06
send him a PM or something
55:07
and ask him, "What the hell?"
55:09
Yeah, it was kind of disappointing that
55:12
nobody else showed up.
55:13
It was still a fun day.
55:15
Oh, it was a lot of fun. It was a
55:16
beautiful day out there.
55:18
I do have to say, though, they have to be
55:19
careful with General Sam's, the place is
55:21
turning into a spring creek.
55:24
The Bud Light cans are lying everywhere.
55:26
Well, my favorite part was where your son
55:28
had pulled up right there next to a
55:30
couple of mud holes,
55:33
and we were standing there eating
55:36
sandwiches, and a couple of guys,
55:38
obviously, I think it was all
55:40
of 10.30 or 11 in the morning,
55:43
and these guys pulled up on their ATVs,
55:45
and the first thing they said after they
55:46
took the beer away from their mouth was,
55:48
"Are you guys stuck?"
55:50
Yeah, you need any help? You're stuck.
55:52
Flat ground, dry flat ground.
55:56
And we're all eating.
55:56
Eating. Bag of chips, Cokes, and are
56:01
y'all stuck? Yeah, actually
56:03
we are. We're stuck. Thank you.
56:05
We didn't realize it until you asked.
56:09
Yeah, and then it was kind of funny after
56:12
they went through the mud hole, they
56:13
stopped on the other side,
56:14
and they got out the bottle, checked in,
56:17
and finished it off.
56:19
It was kind of funny, too, because they
56:21
said, "Are you stuck?"
56:22
And it was either right before that or
56:24
right after that, they were asking, "Can
56:26
I make it through this mud hole?"
56:29
Sure, just give it a little gas.
56:31
Yeah, you did. You said, "Yeah, sure."
56:34
I'm eating lunch. I'd
56:35
like to have lunch on a show.
56:38
Yeah, a free show.
56:41
I don't know if you know about my
56:44
personal blog at muckleroy.com, but I
56:51
compiled all the ATV mud races that I
56:55
recorded on the camera.
56:57
I compiled all those together, and then I
56:58
wrote a little article about how they
57:01
were calling for women to come up
57:03
and expose their bare chests to get a,
57:09
pardon the pun, rise out of the crowd for
57:13
the film crew that was there.
57:15
And then about, I don't know, 15 minutes
57:18
later, they stopped the action again to
57:22
ask everybody to stop
57:23
using foul language.
57:24
I loved that double
57:26
standard, because one was...
57:29
It didn't sit right with me at all.
57:31
I mean, I understand it's a public event,
57:33
and things like that happen to the public
57:35
event. I'm not approved.
57:37
I would have preferred some younger, more
57:40
voluptuous women that
57:41
they were going to display.
57:42
Yeah, the two that did it, they really
57:45
should have just kept their clothes on.
57:47
Well, unfortunately,
57:49
that's usually real life.
57:54
The ones that you want them to take their
57:56
clothes off, they want to be
57:58
paid in some way, some form.
58:01
Yep.
58:04
Yeah, Big Jim, you would have enjoyed...
58:05
I wish you had gone out there with us.
58:07
You would have enjoyed that. You probably
58:08
would have mouthed off.
58:11
Yeah, well, the places up there was a lot
58:13
drier than I'd
58:14
remembered it in years past.
58:17
It was dry.
58:18
Yeah, there was a lot of places where you
58:20
could see that it was
58:21
muddy a few weeks ago, but...
58:25
There were some pretty good mud holes. I
58:27
mean, there was a couple that made us
58:28
nervous, and we had to get out and check.
58:30
But it turned out that the bottom wasn't
58:33
that deep, and it was very solid.
58:36
No, there wasn't anything that we went
58:38
through that I would have worried about.
58:42
Well, once we got through it, it wasn't
58:43
bad. I know there was a couple up there
58:45
that was... It was like,
58:47
"I don't know about this."
58:48
But there was some really deep ruts out
58:50
there. I could... And I was also very
58:52
surprised at how beautiful a day it was.
58:56
And when we were out there on the trails,
58:58
we only passed one group that whole... I
59:02
mean, weren't we out there like two or
59:03
three hours driving around?
59:06
Yeah, there... It was real... It was
59:08
surprising to me, too. We
59:09
didn't see anybody out there.
59:13
Maybe that one group on the backside by
59:14
the fence, they were just sitting
59:16
there... I guess they were eating lunch.
59:18
Right. Then there was a lot of people
59:21
there, and I think there was even three
59:23
Cherokees that we saw.
59:26
Yeah, those ones up front... Maybe we
59:28
should have just stopped and talked to
59:30
them and see what they were up to.
59:32
Yeah, I had some XJTalk.com cards with
59:35
me, and I should have suggested that. I
59:37
was just kind of... I don't know...
59:41
Hungry, mostly. Well, that barbecue they
59:44
had at that place really smelled good.
59:46
Yeah, I could understand that.
59:50
Well, Glenn, it's 9 o'clock, which means
59:52
it's been an hour. And I'm sorry we
59:54
didn't get you on here until late.
59:58
But, you know, things happen during a
1:00:00
live show. It makes it interesting. It's
1:00:02
not a well-old machine, at least not yet.
1:00:05
And like I did with Reani and Big Jim, if
1:00:09
I could get you to say something about
1:00:11
why you like or dislike XJTalk.com.
1:00:16
Well, one thing I like about that website
1:00:19
compared to some of the other ones, if
1:00:22
you post an idea, people
1:00:23
don't put you down right away.
1:00:26
Even... It gives them a direction to look
1:00:30
at, but somebody... You know, if you post
1:00:34
something, it might
1:00:35
be good for 100 people.
1:00:36
Well, on that 101... The 101st one, it
1:00:39
doesn't work, and somebody shouts out
1:00:42
right away, "Oh, no, no, no. I've had
1:00:44
this, this, and this."
1:00:47
I like it that people
1:00:49
are open to suggestions.
1:00:51
I know I always try to be. The majority
1:00:54
of what I know I've read, and I try to
1:00:57
regurgitate it and learn... And I try to
1:00:59
make it clear if I've had a personal
1:01:01
experience with this, or I've learned it
1:01:04
through reading either on my forum,
1:01:07
XJTalk.com, or on one of the other ones.
1:01:10
Somebody mentioned naxj.org earlier. Very
1:01:14
good forum. Lots of people there.
1:01:17
But that, among some of the other XJTalk
1:01:22
forums, was the reason why I started
1:01:24
XJTalk.com, because I do not like people
1:01:28
being told, "Search
1:01:29
before you ask a question."
1:01:31
It's a forum. That's the reason why it's
1:01:34
there. Ask questions, share information,
1:01:37
not a place so that somebody that, I
1:01:41
don't know, has been belittled by their
1:01:43
boss, their wife, their neighbor, or
1:01:45
whatever, to come on there and take it
1:01:47
out on people that are hundreds or
1:01:50
thousands of miles away.
1:01:52
I agree with that. If you haven't got
1:01:54
something good to say, don't say nothing.
1:01:56
If you're upset because that person
1:01:58
didn't search, there's no reason for you
1:02:00
to go on there and just
1:02:03
ignore the post. Move along.
1:02:07
So that's a very sore spot for me, and
1:02:10
that is the number one reason why I
1:02:11
started XJTalk.com, is so
1:02:13
that I could control that.
1:02:16
I guess that's kind of control freakish,
1:02:18
but I wanted to have
1:02:19
the ability to stop that.
1:02:23
And anytime that happens, which it
1:02:26
doesn't happen very often, the whole feel
1:02:30
of the site seems to have come through.
1:02:32
I'm very surprised about that, because I
1:02:34
don't like putting my finger down and
1:02:37
saying, "This is what we're going to do,"
1:02:38
or so on and so forth.
1:02:38
I do make it clear about that, but that's
1:02:41
my one rule.
1:02:41
Everything else is wide open.
1:02:44
And of course we have the no nip rule. So
1:02:46
anytime anybody posts any pictures of
1:02:48
women, no nips, you guys remember that.
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And that's not a racial slur. I think we
1:02:54
all know what I'm talking about.
1:02:56
Oh, Glenn, we're running over a little
1:02:58
bit, which is okay. I can do this for as
1:03:00
long as I like, but I like to
1:03:01
try to keep it around an hour.
1:03:03
I want to thank you very much for getting
1:03:05
on the phone. It was fun having the
1:03:06
technical difficulty.
1:03:08
Like I said, it's a live show, and it's
1:03:11
fun when things don't go exactly right,
1:03:14
like whenever I was trying to call you
1:03:15
just now and picked up a call for me.
1:03:17
And I have no idea who that was. It was
1:03:19
probably a bill collector.
1:03:20
Well, she sounded a lot better than I do.
1:03:25
Well, you have a nice evening, Tony.
1:03:27
Thank you very much,
1:03:28
Glenn. Have a good night.
1:03:30
Good night.
1:03:31
[applause]
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Well, guys, I've kind of come to the end
1:03:39
of the show. I played our two vendors,
1:03:45
our ads for tonight.
1:03:46
In fact, let me just play that again real
1:03:47
quick. I think, I don't know what you
1:03:49
guys, but I'd like to hear the Detours
1:03:51
one again. I thought it was pretty funny.
1:03:53
This segment brought to you by
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DetoursUSA.com. Ten years of innovating,
1:03:57
not imitating XJ products.
1:03:59
Check out www.detoursusa.com. And Detours
1:04:05
wants to remind everyone to practice safe
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sex. No pig-borking
1:04:09
till you wrap that rascal.
1:04:12
[squeak] XJtalk.com
1:04:15
That's where you go
1:04:16
when you're not afraid.
1:04:18
This is Brian XJ. Just calling in to tell
1:04:21
you that we really like the website. Full
1:04:23
of a lot of tech and a lot of good
1:04:24
people. Always get a response back
1:04:26
quickly. Thanks. Have a good day.
1:04:28
And thank you for calling in to the
1:04:30
voicemail, Brian. That's Brian XJ. He's
1:04:32
in the chat room tonight.
1:04:36
And he called our voicemail, our 24 hour
1:04:41
by 7 days a week. Always available.
1:04:44
Always willing to accept your call.
1:04:48
And you can just call us anytime you
1:04:52
like, if I didn't make that clear, at
1:04:55
530-675-4102. Call and leave a message.
1:05:07
If you would, first name, your location,
1:05:11
and not bathroom or in front of the
1:05:14
television in the living room.
1:05:17
Physical location, city-state would be
1:05:18
really good. Especially if you're out of
1:05:20
country. I love getting people from all
1:05:23
over the world. Although I do understand
1:05:25
that that might be a long distance call.
1:05:26
And I certainly don't expect you to spend
1:05:29
the money to call the voicemail.
1:05:31
But if you can, I'd appreciate it. I love
1:05:34
playing the little comments. And I think
1:05:38
we used this one last time. But let me
1:05:40
throw this one up here
1:05:41
because it's a real good message.
1:05:43
Hey Tony and XJ Talk users. This is John,
1:05:47
prerunner 1982. I have a non-technical
1:05:50
question for everyone that will hopefully
1:05:53
spur some conversation. So what is
1:05:56
everyone's favorite modification to their
1:05:58
rig and why? I look forward to hearing
1:06:00
everybody's responses. Thank you.
1:06:03
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I happily that one
1:06:04
before. And that would be a good one for
1:06:06
the website since we're coming to the end
1:06:09
of the show. And I got one
1:06:11
more to play from Steve, 4.3LXJ.
1:06:18
Hey, I just wanted to tell you about
1:06:19
XJtalk.com. It's a great site. There's no
1:06:22
bashing. Everybody's nice and
1:06:24
friendly. Great place to be.
1:06:30
Thanks a lot, Steve. And those were some
1:06:34
voicemails I got through begging and
1:06:37
pleading. And they were good enough to
1:06:42
provide them for me. And if you guys
1:06:44
would like to, I'd appreciate it because
1:06:46
it gives me something
1:06:47
to play on the show.
1:06:48
And it also gives the idea of what we try
1:06:54
to do on XJtalk.com, which is we have a
1:06:57
community. We have a group of people that
1:06:59
enjoy talking about a variety of
1:07:02
subjects. Certainly Jeeps are the main
1:07:05
reason why we're there, Jeep Cherokees
1:07:07
specifically. But it's fun. And that's
1:07:11
the whole reason for it existing, is fun.
1:07:16
So guys, I think that that ought to do it
1:07:19
for tonight. The hour flew by with the
1:07:24
three phone calls that we did. It really
1:07:28
went quick. And I really enjoyed it.
1:07:33
Maybe we can get more people on the
1:07:35
phone. I certainly want to get Wayne in
1:07:37
New Zealand on Skype and interview him.
1:07:40
It would be great to have him live and he
1:07:45
could answer some questions. So thanks
1:07:49
again. Don't forget that you can listen
1:07:52
to this on the podcast. XJtalk.com slash
1:07:57
podcasts.php. That this kind of rolls off
1:08:01
the tongue of the event.
1:08:02
Also too, the show is also available on
1:08:06
the website now. You can watch the show
1:08:09
live on XJtalk.com. If you go to the home
1:08:13
page, you'll see that there's a little
1:08:16
window near the upper left hand corner of
1:08:20
the screen. And I
1:08:23
should be in it right now.
1:08:24
You should say XJtalk.com and have a
1:08:26
little bitty picture in a picture.
1:08:28
Playing in that little video area. And
1:08:32
just below that is a link that you can
1:08:34
click on. And it will take you to a full
1:08:38
size or a larger video window and the
1:08:42
chat that you're in.
1:08:44
So with the days off that I've been
1:08:47
having, I've actually gone through and
1:08:48
done a few things to hopefully make the
1:08:52
experience a little better and a little
1:08:53
easier to find. And the really neat thing
1:08:56
about going to that page that I set up is
1:08:58
you have the XJtalk chat right above it.
1:09:01
So you can have two chats going at once.
1:09:07
Anyway guys, thank you very much. Enjoyed
1:09:09
it. And have a good rest of the week and
1:09:12
a very Happy New Year.