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Tech in the Great Outdoors · Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1: And how the tech are you today? I want to
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Speaker 1: talk about technology that's designed to enhance our time spent outdoors,
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Speaker 1: specifically when you're doing stuff like hiking or camping. And
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Speaker 1: before we really get into it, I thought I would
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about my own experiences of camping
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Speaker 1: back when I was much much younger. You see, I
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Speaker 1: camped fairly frequently. As a teenager. I had joined the
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Speaker 1: Society for Creative Anachronism or s c A, which is
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Speaker 1: a nonprofit group that, at least in theory, is dedicated
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Speaker 1: to learning about culture during the Middle Ages. In practice,
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Speaker 1: it can often be more about dressing up in funny clothes,
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Speaker 1: eating a lot of food, and hitting each other with
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Speaker 1: rattan sticks wrapped and duct tape. Anyway, I would often
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Speaker 1: attend s c A events, which usually took place at campgrounds,
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Speaker 1: and that meant camping. So I had all the camping basics.
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Speaker 1: I had a tent, I had a sleeping bag, and
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Speaker 1: um if I remember to pack it, I had a
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Speaker 1: beat up egg crate, foam mattress topper to take a
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Speaker 1: little bit of the staying of a sleeping on the ground.
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Speaker 1: And that was pretty much the extent of my camping gear. Well.
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Speaker 1: I loved the sea events, but it didn't care for
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Speaker 1: camping too much. It was too uncomfortable and inconvenient. Now, luckily,
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Speaker 1: this was way back before we had stuff like smartphones
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Speaker 1: or else. I really would have gone nuts if I
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Speaker 1: had been cut off from that technology. My point is
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Speaker 1: I lacked the right stuff to make camping right for me,
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Speaker 1: and as I got older and less resilient, I lost
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Speaker 1: interest in camping. I mean, these days, if I were
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Speaker 1: to try and sleep on the ground without a prop
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Speaker 1: per pad, I would probably be unable to move the
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Speaker 1: next day. But here's the thing. I didn't really lose
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Speaker 1: interest in camping itself. I lost interest in putting myself
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Speaker 1: through discomfort. And also since those days, which you know,
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Speaker 1: to some of y'all might seem like to happen just
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Speaker 1: after the Middle Ages, things have changed significantly. You know,
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Speaker 1: We've got smartphones and other devices that more of us
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Speaker 1: lean on year after year. In fact, I think some
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Speaker 1: of y'all have probably experienced withdrawal symptoms whenever you're pulled
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Speaker 1: away from your smart devices. And that's not a comment
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Speaker 1: on your character. Rather, it's a comment on how incredibly
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Speaker 1: useful and yes, addictive, these devices have become. Well, something
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Speaker 1: that I think is really cool is how various companies
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Speaker 1: have responded to this by creating solutions that start to
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Speaker 1: remove the things that would otherwise make people say, I
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Speaker 1: don't really want to go camping. There are so many
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Speaker 1: examples of technologies that ideally encourage more people to go
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Speaker 1: out and spend time in nature, and that time is valuable.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it can help you shed stress and anxiety.
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Speaker 1: It can encourage a sense of accomplishment. You know, everything
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Speaker 1: from setting up your tent to lighting a fire or
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Speaker 1: a camp stove, or cooking a meal. All of these
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Speaker 1: things can really make you feel better while you're exploring
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Speaker 1: nature and walking around national parks that you otherwise would
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Speaker 1: have just passed on by as you go from one
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Speaker 1: city to or another. It's it's a significant thing. So
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Speaker 1: today we're going to take a look at some of
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Speaker 1: the technology designed to get you out from behind your computer,
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Speaker 1: out of your house, and out into the real world.
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Speaker 1: And I thought I would start off with a hobby
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Speaker 1: that I first became aware of more than a decade ago,
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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about geo cashing. So geo cashing is
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Speaker 1: an activity that grew out of the fact that in
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Speaker 1: two thousand, the then US President Bill Clinton brought an
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Speaker 1: end to a practice called selective availability. All right, but
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Speaker 1: what the heck is that? Well before two thousand, GPS
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Speaker 1: signals were considered to be crucial for national security in
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Speaker 1: the United States. As such, there was a requirement that
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Speaker 1: any public GPS signals first had to be degraded before
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Speaker 1: citizens would be able to access them. So, in other words,
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Speaker 1: if you use a civilian GPS device, the information you
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Speaker 1: got about your position was only sort of correct, and
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Speaker 1: by sort of, I mean your positioning could be off
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Speaker 1: by like a hundred meters, which is significant. You would
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Speaker 1: not be able to use a GPS device for navigation.
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Speaker 1: If that were the case. You would get an instruction
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Speaker 1: to make a right turn, and it would just turn
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Speaker 1: out that that road that you're supposed to turn on
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Speaker 1: is fifty behind you, or maybe it's a hundred meters
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Speaker 1: ahead of you, or maybe you're not even on the
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Speaker 1: road that the GPS device thinks you're on. So before
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Speaker 1: two thousand GPS devices at least four civilians were interesting,
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Speaker 1: but not practically useful in any way. It was a
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Speaker 1: different matter for GPS devices that were used by say
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Speaker 1: the military, those signals were not degraded. And if you're
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Speaker 1: wondering how did they degrade the signals, it all has
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Speaker 1: to do with timing. You see, the signals that get
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Speaker 1: to your device are coming from satellites, multiple satellites, and
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Speaker 1: each of those satellites has a very precise clock on it.
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Speaker 1: When those satellites send out a signal that your device receives,
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Speaker 1: it knows when that signal was sent by the satellite,
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Speaker 1: and it can measure the amount of time that it
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Speaker 1: took for the message to go from the satellite to
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Speaker 1: the device, and by coordinating that with multiple satellites, you
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Speaker 1: can figure out where on the Earth you are. Well,
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Speaker 1: the way selective availability worked, the satellites would fudge the
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Speaker 1: time just a little bit, but just a tiny change
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Speaker 1: in time was enough to make a significant change in
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Speaker 1: the results on the GPS device, making you think you're
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Speaker 1: somewhere where you're not, at least by a hundred meters
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Speaker 1: or so. Well. Starting on May one, two thousand. All
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Speaker 1: that changed. President Clinton ended selective availability, and the constellation
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Speaker 1: of GPS satellites would send accurate information instead of masking it,
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Speaker 1: giving you a precise location when you used your device. Well,
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Speaker 1: that capability encourage some GPS hobbyists to create a new activity. Now.
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Speaker 1: The idea was you go to some location, frequently a
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Speaker 1: remote location out in nature, somewhere, preferably one that you're
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Speaker 1: allowed to be in. Right, You're not supposed to trespass
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Speaker 1: or anything like that on private property, So you would
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Speaker 1: go someplace where you're allowed to be and you would
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Speaker 1: take note of your precise location using a GPS device.
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Speaker 1: You would write down the coordinates. Then you would take
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Speaker 1: a container of some sort, preferably weather proof and resistant
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Speaker 1: to damage, and you would put inside that contain a
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Speaker 1: log book for others to sign, some writing implements so
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Speaker 1: that people can sign it, maybe a couple of cheap
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Speaker 1: little do dads as a type of reward, and you
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Speaker 1: would seal all of that away and hide the container.
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Speaker 1: Then you would go back home, hop on a database
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Speaker 1: frequented by other GPS hobbyists and you would share the coordinates.
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Speaker 1: The other hobbyists can then use those coordinates and use
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Speaker 1: their own devices to try and navigate to that precise location,
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Speaker 1: search for the container, open it up, signed the log book,
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Speaker 1: and take a do dad. Now, the practice quickly evolved
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Speaker 1: so that the hobbyists who are doing the hunting would
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Speaker 1: bring along their own little do dads, and they would
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Speaker 1: swap them out so they might have a token of
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Speaker 1: their own that kind of was their signature, and they
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Speaker 1: would leave that token in the stash and take something
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Speaker 1: else from it and then go on their way after
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Speaker 1: signing the logbook, and the log books grew longer and longer.
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Speaker 1: This hobby is still going on today, and frequently. One
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Speaker 1: of the driving fact ars of this hobby is that
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Speaker 1: the hobbyists like to find locations that are special in
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Speaker 1: some way, and it may be that getting to those
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Speaker 1: special places requires some determination and skill. Often that will
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Speaker 1: be marked down on a database to how much strenuous
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Speaker 1: activity might be required for you to reach the destination.
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Speaker 1: Maybe the destination will have a spectacular view, like it
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Speaker 1: might overlook a waterfall or something. The hobby became part
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Speaker 1: treasure hunt, part tech geek activity, and part exploration. As
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Speaker 1: more folks joined in, more would go out and about
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Speaker 1: finding great locations where they could hide the next dash.
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Speaker 1: There are urban versions of this too, where people will
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Speaker 1: hide them in like neighborhoods and such, but more frequently
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Speaker 1: you hear about ones that are in parks and things
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Speaker 1: of that nature. Now, let's be clear, folks could have
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Speaker 1: done this kind of activity without the tech. In fact,
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Speaker 1: there is a very similar hobby called letter boxing, in
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Speaker 1: which instead of leaving coordinates, the people who hide a
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Speaker 1: stash will share clues and riddles that will lead people
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Speaker 1: to wear a stash is hidden. It is in many
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Speaker 1: ways similar to geo cashing, but doesn't require the coordinates bit,
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Speaker 1: which frankly can make it even more challenging depending on
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Speaker 1: how well the clues are formed and how clever you
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Speaker 1: are and figuring them out. But the tech in geo
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Speaker 1: cashing really facilitated things. It's served as a reason to
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Speaker 1: get outside and go exploring. It provided inspiration, and that's
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Speaker 1: what I love about these kinds of technologies. The problem
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Speaker 1: they are solving is not about necessarily making camping or
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Speaker 1: hiking or even exploring a snap. It's removing the barriers
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Speaker 1: that we put up for ourselves that stop us from
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Speaker 1: getting out there in the first place. I think. Another
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Speaker 1: technology that has inspired folks to get out more are
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Speaker 1: quad copters or drones. Many years ago, according to a
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Speaker 1: quick search online, I remember seeing a quad copter drone
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Speaker 1: for the first time. It was at c e S
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Speaker 1: or the Consumer Electronics Show, and it was a device
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Speaker 1: that's no longer on the market, so there's no point
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Speaker 1: in even naming it. But the idea was you could
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Speaker 1: have this squad copter and pair your phone to the drone,
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Speaker 1: and you would run a special app and your phone
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Speaker 1: would become a remote control for the device, and you
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Speaker 1: could even use the camera that was on the drone
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Speaker 1: to feed a video straight to your phone. Well, at
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Speaker 1: the time, I had no way of knowing that what
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Speaker 1: I was seeing was going to become an entirely new
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Speaker 1: consumer product line. Today, there are dozens of companies that
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Speaker 1: are into it. You can find lots of different brands
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Speaker 1: of drones. There are plenty of drones that can shoot
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Speaker 1: images and video at four K resolution or even higher.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them have tons of cool features like
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Speaker 1: obstacle detection and avoidance that make them easy year to pilot,
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Speaker 1: and they can get absolutely breathtaking shots that you would
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Speaker 1: otherwise need a helicopter to manage. I've seen phenomenal footage
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Speaker 1: from drone pilots and looked at pristine locations that are
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Speaker 1: just so gorgeous that I can't help but feel I
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Speaker 1: need to go visit those myself. Now. I'm sure for
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Speaker 1: some of the folks who are using drones, they were
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Speaker 1: already outdoorsy, right. A lot of them might even have
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Speaker 1: been into hobbies, or maybe they even had a career
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Speaker 1: in nature photography. But there's a slice of drone users
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Speaker 1: who before they got their quad coptor, they weren't the
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Speaker 1: type to do much outdoor exploration. Now they have a
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Speaker 1: device that pretty much requires that they do that, and
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Speaker 1: I think that's cool too. It gives people a reason
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Speaker 1: to get out there. Along the way, they might find
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Speaker 1: that they really liked the lifestyle, and they progressively get
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Speaker 1: more into it. We're gonna take a quick break. When
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Speaker 1: we come back, i'll talk about some more technology that's
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Speaker 1: meant to get you out and about in the great outdoors.
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Speaker 1: You know, one technology that has really evolved incredibly rapidly
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Speaker 1: over the last decade, maybe two decades, would be the
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Speaker 1: camping trailer. So in the old days, a camping trailer
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Speaker 1: was really just this terrible living space that you could
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Speaker 1: use to sleep in while you were out on the road.
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Speaker 1: It might feature some pretty cool technology in it. You
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Speaker 1: might have climate control options, maybe a fridge, perhaps a
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Speaker 1: cooking surface of some sort. But these days there are
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Speaker 1: camping trailers that have more smart devices in them than
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Speaker 1: my house does. I had a conversation with the CEO
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Speaker 1: of a particularly famous company known for its camping trailers,
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Speaker 1: and I learned about how, as the head of a
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Speaker 1: company that manufactures these things, trailers meant to appeal to
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Speaker 1: people who like to go on outdoor adventures, that he
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Speaker 1: sees technology as being pivotal to the business model. He
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Speaker 1: pointed out that people want certain conveniences, for instance, connectivity.
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Speaker 1: You know, some people feel such a sense of anxiety
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Speaker 1: when they have no cell phone service that they can
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Speaker 1: enjoy themselves. They're too busy fretting over what they might
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Speaker 1: be missing. Those people are far more likely to turn
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Speaker 1: down the opportunity to spend time in nature, which is understandable.
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Speaker 1: None of us want to invite more anxiety in our lives.
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Speaker 1: For that reason, he said, his company made sure to
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Speaker 1: boost connectivity features in their products, so new models of
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Speaker 1: camping trailers would include things like amplified antenna to pick
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Speaker 1: up cells service and signal boosters which could take a
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Speaker 1: week signal and make it strong enough for campers to
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Speaker 1: make it useful. And he also talked about how more
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Speaker 1: and more features in the company's campers are smart technologies,
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Speaker 1: controllable from an app even if you aren't there, so
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Speaker 1: you can do things like check on levels of the
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Speaker 1: battery in the camper, or how much water is in
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Speaker 1: the camper, things that you would need to know before
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Speaker 1: you would actually go out on a trip. You could
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Speaker 1: just check it from your phone. Now, obviously his goal
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Speaker 1: is to sell as many camping trailers as he possibly can.
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Speaker 1: That's the business. But his point was unless you listen
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Speaker 1: to what customers want and you remove those things that
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Speaker 1: would otherwise convince people not to go camping, you're going
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Speaker 1: to fail as a business. So for folks who want
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Speaker 1: the camper experience, there are all sorts of new gadgets
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Speaker 1: and gizmos a plenty incorporated into those designs. Today, there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of camper companies out there now. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to single out one at the expense of
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Speaker 1: all the rest, because lots of companies are doing innovative
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Speaker 1: things with their camper technology. So I'm just gonna talk
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Speaker 1: in general about some of the tech that we're starting
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Speaker 1: to see in prototypes and in at least some cases
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Speaker 1: campers you can actually go out and purchase. We're seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot of work with very lightweight materials and three
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Speaker 1: D printed components which are meant to maximize efficient use
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Speaker 1: of space while also reducing weight. Reducing that weight makes
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Speaker 1: it easier to tow the camper behind your vehicle. Uh.
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Speaker 1: In fact, there's a prototype camper that has its own
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Speaker 1: drive train that ends up using its own power supply
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Speaker 1: to help propel the camper behind the towing vehicle so
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Speaker 1: that it's less of a load for the towing vehicle.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible. Uh. One prototype system even has an
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Speaker 1: option where you detach the camper when you get to
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Speaker 1: your campsite and you use a connected smartphone as a
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Speaker 1: remote control. You can actually maneuver the camper into the
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Speaker 1: position you want at your campsite using your phone. You
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Speaker 1: don't have it connected to your vehicle anymore at all.
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Speaker 1: That's cool as heck, and it takes the worry out
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Speaker 1: of how to back a camper into the right spot.
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Speaker 1: Several of these campers incorporate solar panels to provide electricity
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Speaker 1: to charge on board batteries, which in turn can power
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Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff like a water pump, a heater
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Speaker 1: which gives you a sink with hot and cold water,
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Speaker 1: or powering a cooking surface, or an entertainment system, refrigerator,
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Speaker 1: air conditioner, lights, even ultra high definition televisions, and some
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Speaker 1: of these models, it's kind of like having a hotel
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Speaker 1: room that's portable. Now, a big trade off you have
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Speaker 1: with campers is that they can run to be really
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Speaker 1: really expensive. Plus some outdoorsy folks might feel like it's
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Speaker 1: kind of like cheating. I mean, sure, no one wants
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Speaker 1: to be miserably uncomfortable when they're out and about, but
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Speaker 1: you might want to at least feel like you're roughing it.
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Speaker 1: And sleeping in a luxurious camper surrounded by four K
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Speaker 1: television screens probably doesn't at that bill. However, we're seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot of technology that's aimed at outdoor enthusiasts that
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Speaker 1: doesn't quite go to the extremes of top of the
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Speaker 1: line campers. For instance, there are self inflating sleeping pads
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Speaker 1: that will get you up off the ground, which is
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Speaker 1: something that's absolutely critical when you're in colder months or
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Speaker 1: when the weather turns nasty. Now, this technology actually dates
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Speaker 1: back to the nineteen seventies and it's pretty interesting stuff.
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Speaker 1: So the pads have foam in them. The foam, if
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Speaker 1: you were to look really closely at it, you would
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Speaker 1: see are made up of what are called open cells.
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Speaker 1: The cells that create the foam are have open walls
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Speaker 1: in them, which allows air to flow into that space. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you pack that stuff into fabric that does not
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Speaker 1: allow air to pass through it, and then you include
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Speaker 1: a valve that will allow air to pass but only
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Speaker 1: in one direction depending on how the valve is set,
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Speaker 1: you have yourself an ideal structure for camping. You turn
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Speaker 1: the valve so that air can pass into the pad
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Speaker 1: but not out, and air will rush in and the
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Speaker 1: pad will expand. That expansion is the foam stretching out,
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Speaker 1: and as it does, it starts to create a vacuum
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Speaker 1: and air moves into fill it. Because we all know
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Speaker 1: that nature abhorrors a vacuum right well, when it's trying
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Speaker 1: to pack up. Turning the valves that the air can
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Speaker 1: only move out means you can start to compress the
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Speaker 1: pad and squeeze the air from it. The valve prevents
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Speaker 1: air from coming back in, so you get the pad
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Speaker 1: as compressed as you can so that you can pack
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Speaker 1: it back up again, which is pretty genius. Now there
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Speaker 1: are also inflatable air sleeping pads out there, meaning these
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Speaker 1: are pads that you have to pump air into or
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Speaker 1: maybe blow it up yourself, which to me sounds like
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Speaker 1: a terrible activity after you've just hiked your camping spot.
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Speaker 1: And of course there are various pumps out there too,
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Speaker 1: from hand pumps and foot pumps to battery powered electric pumps.
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Speaker 1: The point is there are a lot of solutions for
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Speaker 1: campers when it comes to finding the right surface to
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Speaker 1: sleep on, and as someone who can tell you from experience,
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Speaker 1: you definitely want to make that at least a little
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Speaker 1: comfortable so that you can move around the next day.
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you do want to shop for
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Speaker 1: that kind of gear, you should pay attention to the
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Speaker 1: temperature ratings on the products. This also will go for
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Speaker 1: sleeping bags, but the rating systems are different and they
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Speaker 1: can get very confusing. The air mattress style pads will
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Speaker 1: keep you more comfortable as you know as far as
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Speaker 1: it being softer than the self inflating foam pads do,
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Speaker 1: but the air mattress style pads don't have good insulation
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Speaker 1: against the cold. Many sleep pad manufacturers will indicate what
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Speaker 1: their pads are rated for, which is designated with a
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Speaker 1: value that has an R in front of it, and
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Speaker 1: the higher that value is, the better insulated that pad is.
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Speaker 1: For those who plan on camping in late fall, maybe
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Speaker 1: even into winter, and our value of three point five
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Speaker 1: or greater is a good idea. Of anything below that,
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Speaker 1: you are probably going to be too cold at night
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Speaker 1: and you might just want to call it quits rather
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Speaker 1: than enjoy your experience again. Picking the right stuff so
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Speaker 1: that the experience is fun and something that you eagerly
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Speaker 1: seek to do again. That's the goal. We're not looking
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Speaker 1: at making a technology nervana out in the wilderness, but
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Speaker 1: rather an experience that enhances our time outside so that
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Speaker 1: we seek it out again and again. As for sleeping bags,
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Speaker 1: they come in a variety of shapes and materials and
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Speaker 1: temperature ratings. Those ratings are usually designated I s OH
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Speaker 1: that stands for International Standards Organization, So a bag that
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Speaker 1: has an I s O rating on it is one
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Speaker 1: that the manufacturers submitted to the I s O to
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Speaker 1: test the bag out. This actually costs money to the manufacturers,
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Speaker 1: which means that not every sleeping bag is going to
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Speaker 1: have an I s O rating on it. When we
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Speaker 1: come back, I want to talk about the testing process
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Speaker 1: the I s O uses because it's actually pretty nifty
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Speaker 1: and uses some interesting technology. But first another break. So
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Speaker 1: the I s OH, in order to test the sleeping bag,
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Speaker 1: gets a test dummy and they cover it in heat sensors.
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Speaker 1: They also put the dummy in a base layer of
21:40
Speaker 1: clothing you can think of like light pajamas, So there
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Speaker 1: are bottoms, there's a top, there's a hat, and socks.
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Speaker 1: The dummy is then shoved into the sleeping bag that's
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Speaker 1: being tested. Actually, more likely it's folded into it and
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Speaker 1: zipped up, because that makes more sense. But I just
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Speaker 1: like the visual of someone having to shove the test
22:01
Speaker 1: dummy into a sleeping bag. And on top of that,
22:04
Speaker 1: the bag with the dummy in it is placed on
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Speaker 1: top of a winter rated sleeping pad. Now, if you remember,
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Speaker 1: before the break, I talked about how sleeping pads have
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Speaker 1: an R number associated with them to tell you how
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Speaker 1: well insulated they are against, say the cold In the
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Speaker 1: case of this test, it's a sleeping pad with a
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Speaker 1: rating of R five. That is a significant insulated pad.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's one really meant for cold cold weather. Now,
22:32
Speaker 1: the pad plus the base level of clothing is standardized,
22:36
Speaker 1: so they use it on all the different sleeping bags
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Speaker 1: out there. Obviously, it would not be fair to switch
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Speaker 1: out any of that stuff between tests because that could
22:46
Speaker 1: lead to incorrect conclusions about the correct temperature rating of
22:51
Speaker 1: the bagging question. Now, the test takes place in a
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Speaker 1: room that can be cooled down to around zero degrees fahrenheit.
22:59
Speaker 1: The I s SO lowers the temperature and then monitors
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Speaker 1: the sensors that are on the dummy to determine the
23:05
Speaker 1: lowest temperature at which a human would still likely to
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Speaker 1: be comfortable while sleeping in the bag. The I s
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Speaker 1: O actually produces two ratings per sleeping bag. The first,
23:16
Speaker 1: which is the higher temperature of the two, is for
23:19
Speaker 1: people who sleep quote unquote cold, and for those people
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Speaker 1: they would probably be comfortable at that temperature, but no lower.
23:28
Speaker 1: So these are people who prefer a warmer sleeping environment.
23:32
Speaker 1: If it is cooler than that, then they feel chilly.
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Speaker 1: The second number, which is a lower temperature that's sometimes
23:41
Speaker 1: referred to as a transition number, is the temperature where
23:44
Speaker 1: people who sleep warmer will feel comfortable. So this would
23:48
Speaker 1: be the lowest temperature for those who like it a
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Speaker 1: little chilly in when they're sleeping, Like I like a
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Speaker 1: nice cave temperature when I'm going to sleep, so I
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Speaker 1: sleep warmer. Frequently you will hear folks refer to the
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Speaker 1: first number, the higher temperature, as the women's temperature, and
24:08
Speaker 1: the second as the men's temperature, because there's a tendency
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Speaker 1: for men to prefer colder temperatures than women. I stress
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Speaker 1: it's a tendency, it's not a universal rule. And there
24:21
Speaker 1: are sleeping bags that are marketed just to men and
24:24
Speaker 1: some that are marketed just to women. And due to
24:27
Speaker 1: that tendency to sleep warmer cold, you can have two
24:30
Speaker 1: sleeping bags, one for a man and one for a woman,
24:33
Speaker 1: each rated for a comfort level of let's say ten
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Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit, meaning that if it's ten degrees fahrenheit or warmer,
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Speaker 1: you should be fine. Well, the men's bag is probably
24:43
Speaker 1: gonna be lighter, and that's because of that tendency. It
24:46
Speaker 1: takes less insulation to keep your typical man comfortable when
24:49
Speaker 1: the environmental temperature is ten degrees than it would to
24:53
Speaker 1: keep a typical woman comfortable. So again, like the temperature
24:58
Speaker 1: is just about the environment, it's not about the bag itself,
25:01
Speaker 1: and that's how you factor in which bag is going
25:04
Speaker 1: to be right for you. It also depends on what
25:06
Speaker 1: time of year you plan on going camping. Now, if
25:09
Speaker 1: you want to have something that's better for more extreme weather,
25:11
Speaker 1: you have to look beyond I s O ratings. The
25:15
Speaker 1: I s O only rate bags that are meant to
25:18
Speaker 1: be used in temperatures that are zero fahrenheit or warmer.
25:23
Speaker 1: Extreme bags, which can go below zero degrees fahrenheit frequently,
25:28
Speaker 1: will have three temperature ratings on them. The first represents
25:31
Speaker 1: the temperature a person could expect to sleep in relative comfort.
25:35
Speaker 1: The second number, which is often called the limit number,
25:38
Speaker 1: is the lowest temperature someone could be expected to sleep
25:41
Speaker 1: in the bag at all, and the third number the
25:44
Speaker 1: lowest of the three. The extreme level is a temperature
25:48
Speaker 1: where it would probably be way too cold for you
25:50
Speaker 1: to get any sleep, but the bag would likely keep
25:53
Speaker 1: you warm enough so that you could survive the night. Now,
25:55
Speaker 1: obviously that third scenario is something that represents an emergency situation,
26:01
Speaker 1: then we've got tents. You might think tents end up
26:04
Speaker 1: being pretty basic, low tech things, but there are exceptions,
26:08
Speaker 1: and of course tents come in a variety of sizes, shapes,
26:11
Speaker 1: and materials. Some tents are essentially just a thin barrier
26:14
Speaker 1: between you and everything outside the tent. That can be
26:17
Speaker 1: really useful if you needed to be super lightweight and
26:20
Speaker 1: you're going to be hiking to your campsite. Others are
26:24
Speaker 1: more rain resistant. Some are rainproof, although you can probably
26:29
Speaker 1: put rainproof in air quotes because it's very possible even
26:33
Speaker 1: for the most resilient rainproof tense to become flooded if
26:38
Speaker 1: you set up the tent poorly in the wrong location,
26:41
Speaker 1: like you start, you have the entry of the tent
26:45
Speaker 1: facing uphill and it starts pouring down rain. That's not
26:48
Speaker 1: going to be great. But tents can go well beyond this. Uh.
26:52
Speaker 1: There are tents that have led light straps sewn into
26:55
Speaker 1: the seams and you just plug a couple of double
26:58
Speaker 1: A batteries in and you got yourself indoor lighting woven
27:02
Speaker 1: directly into the tent, which is really convenient and because
27:05
Speaker 1: L E D s are so power efficient, those battery
27:08
Speaker 1: should last a good long time. There are tents that
27:11
Speaker 1: use inflatable elements so that you don't have to struggle
27:13
Speaker 1: with poles and ropes to get the tent set up,
27:16
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. I've seen some of these, I've
27:18
Speaker 1: never slept in one. I've always been curious about them,
27:22
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that really appeals to me, because, um,
27:25
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people who becomes like Goofy in
27:29
Speaker 1: the Disney cartoons when I try and set up a tent.
27:31
Speaker 1: I'm more likely to end up tying myself to a
27:33
Speaker 1: tree accidentally. Now and then we see some interesting tent
27:37
Speaker 1: concepts that incorporate things like solar panels and other elements
27:40
Speaker 1: in them that, to be honest, a lot of those
27:43
Speaker 1: seem to remain concepts and never quite migrate over into
27:47
Speaker 1: consumer products. As for other camping gear, with the tech side,
27:51
Speaker 1: you've got stuff like led lanterns that have solar panels
27:55
Speaker 1: so that you can recharge them during the daytime, which
27:57
Speaker 1: is pretty useful when you're out in the middle of
27:59
Speaker 1: nowhere and there's no way be a light. There are
28:01
Speaker 1: portable showers, which essentially consists of a bag that you
28:05
Speaker 1: fill up with water and you leave it in the
28:07
Speaker 1: sun to heat up. You hang it from a height,
28:10
Speaker 1: and some of them are very simple, just gravity fed systems,
28:13
Speaker 1: so you open up a little valve and the water
28:15
Speaker 1: comes out due to gravity. Others incorporate foot pedals that
28:19
Speaker 1: uh connect an air hose from the foot pedal to
28:23
Speaker 1: the bag, so you can actually pump some air into
28:25
Speaker 1: the bag, increasing the internal pressure of the bag. So
28:28
Speaker 1: when you open up that valve, that pressure starts to
28:31
Speaker 1: push the water out with more force and you get
28:33
Speaker 1: a better shower going. I've seen camp stoves that not
28:37
Speaker 1: only provide a way for you to get warmth and
28:39
Speaker 1: cook food, but also charge your portable devices. The stoves
28:43
Speaker 1: connect to electronics that harvest thermal energy and convert it
28:46
Speaker 1: into electricity, at least that's what they say they do.
28:49
Speaker 1: You also can charge them typically like you can use
28:53
Speaker 1: it as its own portable battery pack, and I think
28:57
Speaker 1: that's probably the most efficient way to charge the battery
29:01
Speaker 1: on those camp stoves. But still a really interesting concept
29:04
Speaker 1: to me, and there's so much more we can chat about.
29:07
Speaker 1: There are special filtration systems. They are designed to filter
29:10
Speaker 1: water from streams so it's safe to drink. A lot
29:13
Speaker 1: of these fit right into a water bottle so that
29:16
Speaker 1: you can fill the bottle up, attached the filter to
29:19
Speaker 1: the top of the bottle and drink from the other
29:21
Speaker 1: side of the filter. Others are gravity fed, so you
29:23
Speaker 1: attached two bottles together and the filter is between the two.
29:27
Speaker 1: So you fill one bottle up with say water from
29:29
Speaker 1: a river, you attached the filter to it. You attached
29:32
Speaker 1: an empty bottle on the other side, and you use
29:34
Speaker 1: it almost like an hour glass. The water filters through
29:37
Speaker 1: and then it's safe to drink. There are lots of
29:41
Speaker 1: different variations of this. There are even ones that are
29:43
Speaker 1: shaped like a straw and you can just drink straight
29:45
Speaker 1: from a stream if you wanted to. They are really
29:49
Speaker 1: cool and innovative, and most important, they make it safe
29:51
Speaker 1: for you to drink water. For more heavy duty water
29:54
Speaker 1: filtration systems, you can get a hand pump model that
29:57
Speaker 1: lets you filter a lot of water all at once.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's pretty useful if you're camping with a big group
30:01
Speaker 1: of people. Honestly, you could spend hours looking at camping technology,
30:08
Speaker 1: and I know because I have. I've even had an
30:11
Speaker 1: idea for a special series of podcast episodes about the
30:16
Speaker 1: subject we'll have to see if that ever goes beyond
30:20
Speaker 1: the prototype phase. Personally, I go back to that philosophy
30:24
Speaker 1: that says the best camping tech is the type that
30:26
Speaker 1: gets you out in nature in the first place. There's
30:29
Speaker 1: stuff that is gimmicky and flashy, sure, but the pieces
30:33
Speaker 1: that are important to me are the ones that inspire
30:36
Speaker 1: you to get up and leave your house and head
30:38
Speaker 1: off to the campground or the park and go exploring
30:42
Speaker 1: the flash ear stuff. Often I think of that as
30:45
Speaker 1: being more trouble than what it's worth sometimes because you
30:49
Speaker 1: have to remember, especially if you're not just going to
30:51
Speaker 1: be camping close to wherever you park your car, you've
30:54
Speaker 1: got to carry the stuff too. So it's always good
30:58
Speaker 1: to use a little bit of judgment before you go
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Speaker 1: hog wild and buy every single tech out there for
31:06
Speaker 1: your camping experience and then discover your are incapable of
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Speaker 1: moving once you've loaded it all into your backpack. And
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Speaker 1: I hope some of y'all out there will take this
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Speaker 1: as inspiration to have your own outdoor adventures, whether it's
31:19
Speaker 1: jumping into the geo cashing hobby or spending a weekend
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Speaker 1: out of the campground enjoying nature and good company, and
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Speaker 1: maybe a little tech along the way. That's it for
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