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Martin Lewis — Living Heaven on Earth · High on Life with Melissa Minnich

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Speaker 1: What if the success in life you've been chasing was
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never meant to come from outside of you? This is
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High on Life. I'm your host, Melissa Minnick, scientist, consciousness explorer,
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and spiritual alchemist. And this is where we go deeper,
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where science, spirituality, and human potential converge through conversations that
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explore consciousness, energy, and what it actually takes to stop
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chasing and start experiencing your life differently. Get high with
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me in this conversation. Hello, everyone. Welcome. Today's conversation explores
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one of the oldest spiritual questions humanity has ever asked.
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What if heaven isn't somewhere we go? What if it's
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a state of consciousness we learn to embody here on earth?
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My guest today is Martin Lewis, also known as Martin Melchizedek,
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spiritual teacher, author, and one of the contributing authors in
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our upcoming book, The Way of the Initiate, Stories of Remembering, Awakening,
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and Becoming the New Human. His work explores oneness, unconditional love, forgiveness,
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higher consciousness, and the possibility that joy isn't something we find,
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it's something we remember. He serves as a messenger of
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divine insights and as a herald of the coming golden
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age for humanity and earth. And he works with his
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divine partners to spread messages of joy and love for all, mercy, compassion,
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and forgiveness. In this conversation, we will explore what it
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means to live in heaven on earth, Awaken to oneness,
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cultivate bliss as a way of being, and reconnect with
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the deeper intelligence that exists within us all. Martin, welcome
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to High on Life.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me here. It's great
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to see you.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have this conversation, not only because you
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are one of the authors joining our book, but just
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because of the work that you do in the world.
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But I want to start with your origin path. I'd
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love to hear your story. What first led you into
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the work that you now do into this path?
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Speaker 2: Okay. Just in a 60-second elevator summary without going too
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deep into it. So I'm an incarnated priest from the
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Order of Melchizedek. So I am part of the team
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that's here to support humanity's transition to 5D, to the
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Golden Age. And so I started out, I was very
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comfortable with but Christian religion with the true message of Yeshua,
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the kind of people, help people. That really resonated with me.
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Over time, though, I started getting busy. I became active,
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became an adult, had a job, had a family, and
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kind of got caught up in the day-to-day life. And
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I found myself learning a lot of lessons that are
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tied to what humanity is going through now. I found
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myself going into some very Atlantean scientific thinking of, boy,
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I wish we had more technology in the world. If
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we just had more technology and our government was sending
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money to the arts, that's not good. Let's just put
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it all into science. Well, I've come around over time
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to see that, you know, maybe some of the teachings
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that I was brought up, you know, that If you
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have a different view or if you are not a
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straight person, then somehow you're bad and you can't go
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to heaven. That made no sense to me. And over time,
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I got away from the organized religion. I had a
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major awakening about two years ago. And so I went
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from being spiritual active. I was comfortable with reincarnation. So
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a lot of the things that I'm comfortable with now,
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I was before, but it went wide open when I
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saw a near-death experience video. And he was talking about
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this gentleman who, in his near-death experience, you know, he'd
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been a good person, but he had always been against
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people who were hateful, who were racist, who were prejudiced.
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And he had hated his heart towards them. Well, that was,
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I had hated my heart against the people who I
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thought weren't living in the quote-unquote right way. And all
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the lights went off, and the awakening really took off.
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Shortly after that, I started having dreamtime visitations from Metatron
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and Quan Yin. Quan Yin being my closest spiritual guide
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and someone who I've known for many, many lifetimes. And
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that's what really started me on the path. Metatron is
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the one who told me in a dream. He came
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in and said, you're the messenger. You're going to be
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the herald to go out and tell people about living
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heaven on earth and living in the oneness. So that's
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where it all started. I think I'm probably over 60
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seconds now.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's okay. Well, we're going to dive into a
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lot of the things that you said, because here on
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High on Life, a lot of our audience are new
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to the spiritual world or they're seeking. There are a
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lot of high performers that come in to find out
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new information. So I want to explain some of these
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things that you've talked about. So let's go back in
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and dive in. First off, what is the order of Melchizedek?
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And how did you discover that you were a reincarnate
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of a priest from one of them?
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Speaker 2: Okay. There is first the order of Melchizedek. It's mentioned
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in the New Testament a little bit. You also see
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a vague reference in the Old Testament of the Christian
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religion where it talks about Yeshua being a priest in
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the order. But what it is, is a group of
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multidimensional beings that work across the universe and across the multiverse, really.
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And the thing that it comes down to is this
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is a team that supports the creator, that supports God.
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whenever the creator's plan is going a little bit off track,
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they will send in teams from the Order of Melchizedek
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to try to get things back on track. I think
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that's probably the best way to describe it.
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Speaker 1: That's one of the best definitions that I've heard of,
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you know, the Order of Melchizedek, and I myself have
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dove deep into that and my own connections that we
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won't get into with that. So, beautiful. I love that.
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That helps people explain, okay, where this is. And so,
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What happened for you that you discovered that you were
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one of those?
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Speaker 2: There's two parts to this. The first was something when
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I was like 11 years old doing the very Christian rites.
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I went through the baptism rite. As I came up
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out of the baptism water, I felt the connection to Source.
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I felt just the warm, golden, pink energy of Source.
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And from that point on, I took on the Order
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of Melchizedek basically as my higher self or as my
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primary spiritual guides before my awakening. And so I could
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get very higher self type of answers from them. I
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noticed that I could ask a question and I would
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get an answer. This, of course, was something I wasn't
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comfortable telling anyone about because there was no one in
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my 3D world when I was in school that could
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relate to this. And then after my awakening, they also
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visited me in a dream message and I saw an
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Akashic vision of myself as a priest. And Metatron also
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has mentioned this to me.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful. And that was the other, where I was going
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to go next is you speak that Quan Yin and
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Metatron were two that came in to support you. So
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for those that might not know who these beings are,
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can you share just a little bit about those two
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guides that have really supported you?
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. Archangel Metatron is the highest level angel supporting
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the creator in this universe. He's one of three beings
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that are guiding the evolution of this universe, along with
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Archangel Michael and a being that I refer to as
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Father Melchizedek, who is the universal Logos. That's probably a
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different subject for later on, what a Logos is. But
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what Archangel Metatron is, he is the controller of energy
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coming in. He sends energy and regulates what energy is
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entering to the universe through Helios and through the central sun.
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He is an angelic presence that encompasses the universe, so
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he can be everywhere at all times. And for those
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who are supporting, he is there to support. He is
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always there. Beautiful.
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Speaker 1: And so we're looking back at this moment that happened
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for you a couple of years ago when you had
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this awakening. What made that moment different than, you know,
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you watched stories about an NDE. I've had two NDEs
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in my life, like near-death experiences. What do you think
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was different for you or what happened in that moment
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that created this awakening over just being like, oh, I'm
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watching another person? experience about, you know, or watching this
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TV show or something about near-death experiences, which is what
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so many people in this world would normally do after
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watching something like that. Like, what was there for you
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or what happened in that moment?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two parts to this. One is that there
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had been a slow trickle, like a couple of stones
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rolling down the sides before the avalanche hit. So the
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first was I had read a book by a gentleman
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who researches the Bible and looks into the very technical
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meaning of the words in the Bible. And he's saying, well,
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this stuff that's in the Bible, this isn't right. These
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are mistranslation. You're getting a bad version. I was like, yeah, yeah,
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that kind of made sense to me. I always intuitively
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thought that. And so I started opening up my worldview of,
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you know, what's actually right? You know, what have I
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been fed? and it didn't feel right, and I was like,
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I need to find something that feels right. And then
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the second part, I was you know feeling the warmth
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i think it's just something that happens during the awakening
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process the energies kill again and you start to awaken
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and then you see little triggers along the way the
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next little trigger for me i had gotten a book
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by someone from the order of milky's deck that was
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talking about how to live in the upper room how
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to live a higher vibrational life. And that was also
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resonating for me. So these two sets of books had
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really resonated for me. And then the third one, the
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one that kicked it off, there was a video. It
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was one of the YouTube interviews, and it was someone
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channeling Kuan Yin, who is the goddess of compassion and mercy.
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For those who aren't familiar with her, much like Mother
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Mary is the mother figure for the West, Kuan Yin
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is the mother figure for the East tied to Buddhism.
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And she explained in 30 seconds of this channeled message,
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what had been 300 pages in this book that I love.
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I was like, wow, that that's the best explanation of
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Christ consciousness I've heard. It took her 30 seconds over
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the 300 pages of this book that I like. So
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that was like, wow, there's stuff going on here. And
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then when I saw the video about the gentleman who,
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had to come back, who wasn't ready to stay on
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the other side. Then I looked at all the things
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that were happening and it was like a mirror to
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me and I could see that's where I needed to change.
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And once that happened, it's like the lid came off
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the awakening process.
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Speaker 1: I love how there's these moments where even before you
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had that awakening, you were questioning things. I also came
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from a family who my father had studied as a minister.
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They spoke in tongues, very, very religious people. Although my
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father was a rapist and a sociopath, it was like
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I grew up in this experience of like I went
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to a Christian school at a very young age. And
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I read the Bible in the third grade from end
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to end. I won an award at my school. But
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what happened, the biggest mistake that my teachers ever made
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in this Christian school that I was going to to
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let me read this book was then I started questioning everything.
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I was like, this doesn't make any sense. And he
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was like, so there's something within those of us that
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are here, you know, and there's like, I'm not going
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to take that answer for the truth. There's, I'm going
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to dive deeper.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: And then that opens the doorway to these paths that
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lead us to, to the seeking. It's like, we have
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to have something there that says, you know, this just
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doesn't feel right. And then that allows us to really
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just It took me, obviously, years, but I always knew
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that there would be a coming of time or something
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where I would get answers to the questions that I
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had been seeking at such a young age.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So today we're talking about living in heaven on earth.
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And so what does that mean? What does that mean
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to you?
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Speaker 2: That is one of the things I think is just
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so fundamental. And it's something that's possible. And it comes
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out of the thing before we talked about, you know,
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I'd read the Bible in the end also. And you
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hear about all that you've got to do this and
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heaven is up here and it's so far away from
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you and it's always you're being put down. No, the
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reality is, as you focus your life on, I don't
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want to say, you know, really being positive because it's
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more than just being positive, but that's so fundamental to it.
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As you look for joy, as you look at each
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day and you get up in the morning and you say, boy,
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what type of day am I going to have? What
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decisions am I going to make? And if you make
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the decisions that I'm going to be in a good mood,
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I am going to be productive. I am not going
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to let things bother me. Then that enables you to
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embrace joy. And as you embrace joy, then your outlook
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and the way that you interact with the world starts
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to shift. And one of the biggest things for living
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in heaven on earth is just understanding that, number one,
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you create your own reality. That is a fundamental piece
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of the pie. And as a creator person, as a
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literal creator God, here this human becoming 5D, you get
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to set what you want to interact with. You send
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out to the universe the energy. You say, this is
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my positive energy going out to the world. I am
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a successful person. I am a person who's getting things done.
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I'm a person who's in love. I am a person who,
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when I interact with people, has good interactions and I
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avoid the negative interactions. And as you set the tone
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of your world, then you start to live in a
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state of bliss. And that's one of the highest things
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you can do is to live in joy and expand
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your experience so that you're always moving forward, You're not
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living in fear. You're not afraid of scarcity. Abundance becomes
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something natural to you. Abundance becomes something that simply exists
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for you, whether it's monetary, spiritual, or just the energy
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you have. So as you set the tone, the universe
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reflects it back to you. And so....
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Speaker 1: And so I... I'm sure that there's some people that
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are like, that sounds really great, Martin. And how do
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I do that? How do I really, like, you know,
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life can be challenging. We have things that happen. There's,
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you know, all of these things that can show us.
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But if I really, truly want to believe that heaven
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is on earth, and maybe you can even share, you know,
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what were some of the... in the studies of when
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you were reading, you know, the Bible and you work
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with Yeshua, like what were some of the misinterpretations around this?
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What did, what was really meant, you know, with this
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heaven on earth and how does someone actually take one
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step towards that in a deeper way besides just saying, okay,
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I can make a decision, but a decision doesn't necessarily
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mean that I'm going to be joyful. Right, right.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Bo. So that is so awesome place to go.
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The number one thing when you're reading the Bible and
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as it was constructed to be a device of control,
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the New Testament was manipulated to be a device of control.
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So number one, there's no hell. There's no lake of fire.
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That was one of the things I was talking about.
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The gentleman who looked at the original words and said, hey, look,
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this is a mistranslation. The thing that Yeshua was talking
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about was the village dump, the village trash pile. He
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wasn't talking about a lake of fire. Creator, the source,
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the all that is, is a loving, benevolent situation. There's
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no judgment. Judgment is a 3D construct for control. So
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one of the key things for living in heaven on
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earth is giving up all judgment of other people and
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other events. So you're not going to be judged. You
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don't have to live in fear. And you don't have
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to judge other people or other situations. One of the
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things that I had to deal with is I had
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some health problems coming out of my time in the military.
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I had anger issues. I had PTSD, depression, pain, just
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all types of pain that I had to deal with.
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Learning to let go of the stresses has helped to
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reduce a lot of those problems. So sometimes it's very real.
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When you're a person who's working hard to make ends
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meet and you're still on that grind to get the
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bills paid every month, to keep yourself in a safe
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situation with your housing. That's a very real challenge, and
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I recommend that. And so that takes a level of
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understanding that even though you're working towards something, you're the
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person who's going to get there. You have to have
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faith in yourself and learn to love yourself unconditionally, which
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becomes one of the things that anyone can do at
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any point in their journey. is to learn to love
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themselves unconditionally. It doesn't mean become a narcissist. It doesn't
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mean to become the person who wants to be on
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Instagram and showing off. It means deep down understanding you
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are a beautiful, perfect soul who's having a human experience.
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And you're learning lessons here on earth as you go
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through this. So you can forgive yourself. If you had
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things you did you didn't, you're not really proud of.
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But in the end, it doesn't matter because That's not you.
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That was an experience that you had. And that's something
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that you can learn from. So as you learn unconditional
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forgiveness for yourself, unconditional love for yourself, you reach a
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point where you're able to interact with other people, with nature,
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with the rest of the world in a way where
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you're positive. You're having positive interaction. That's what you're going for,
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for heaven on earth. And life. I've had multiple marriages.
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I've had five boys that I've raised. So I know
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that it's not easy. It's something that can be done.
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And it starts with believing in yourself.
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Speaker 1: I love that the first thing you said was to
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let go of judgment. I really remember, so I used
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to be someone that had body dysmorphia and I didn't
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like myself and I had lots of issues with self-love.
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And I would judge people that were so-called fat, right?
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I would judge them because of my own insecurities around
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my own body and my things. And when I found
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and healed that and brought in that self-love for myself,
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that judgment dropped completely away. And also in the world
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where I've worked with trafficking all over the world and
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I've been on the board for several organizations that I've
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spoke and taught in prisons and detention centers and be
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able to have the love and the compassion for even
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those that have done the worst, most heinous crimes ever
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and not judge them for whatever that path was on this.
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It completely changed how I walked in the world and
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how I experienced the world. Judgment for me, letting that
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go was one of the most profound things that ever
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allowed me to live, as you say, in heaven on earth.
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It was very, very profound. And I love that your share,
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as you keep talking deeper into this, and the key
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to that is the self-love. It is that unconditional self-love first.
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Because if I'm going to give from something, I have
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to fill up my own cup first. I have to
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find that within myself for all of my own. I
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was an international drug trafficker. I had to find within
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myself to forgive myself and have the love for myself
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before I was ever able to have it pour out
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from the cup and then give that from my saucer
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to others. And so when did you notice for yourself, like,
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When did the judgment start dropping away? When did you,
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you know, what kind of transformation or what happened for
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you that allowed you to see, oh, okay, I've been
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judging this situation. And is there anything in your life
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that you still have judgment around?
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great question. I think at this point,
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I've pretty much dropped all judgment. And I'm trying very,
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very hard to do that. You know, I would have
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said the same thing a year ago. But I find
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over time, they're just little things that keep coming up.
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And as you recognize them, you have to be gentle
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with yourself in that state of unconditional love for yourself.
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Understand that, okay, now I recognize that that situation still
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triggered a little bit of judgment in me. And then
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just let it go. Don't dwell on it. And it's
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something where you can still love yourself, even when you
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make mistakes now. But to get to the question of,
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how did I get on that arc? to stop the judgment.
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At first it was lots of judgments fell away, but
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then the little judgments were still there. And those were
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the ones that I worked through. And one of the
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ones that really came forward to me, it's something that
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I cover in the chapter for the upcoming book, The
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Way of the Initiate, is there were things where I
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was having friction in my marriage and we would have
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discussions and they would get heated and We would see
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things differently and we weren't seeing eye to eye. And
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I felt maybe I was not being treated fairly. Maybe,
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you know, I should be getting more. And so I
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was in a way judging my wife for not being
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the person that I really thought she should be. And
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then it clicked one day. This was a discussion I
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had with Kuan Yin of, well, maybe if you stop
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trying to expect all this from her and do more
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for her, And understand that your wife is having her
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own experience. Then assign her the role in your life
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of being the kind, compassionate person. And don't get triggered
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by all these things. Just accept her as she is
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and love her for who she is. See all the goodness.
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And don't allow yourself to be upset by the things
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that up to this point you would say, well, boy,
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I don't like that. Now I let it go. I
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don't see it as things that I don't like. I
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see what happened and what am I learning from it?
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What is the issue for me as a person, as
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a soul in this experience? And now I'm learning from
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this and so I can grow from it. So I
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don't get angry when something happens that I'm not real
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keen on, but I look at it neutrally, learn from
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it and then appreciate and try to send love into
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the situation and say, boy, this was a great opportunity
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for me to learn. even though I may hope that
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I never have to learn that again. But I'm not
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going to let it affect my day. I'm not going
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to let it affect my mood. And then I'll try
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to be stronger from it.
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Speaker 1: And how has that changed your relationship with your wife?
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Speaker 2: It has had a dramatic impact on the situation where
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as The tensions drop. When something comes up now, we're
24:14
able to work through it in a way that's very positive.
24:17
We have positive interactions most of the time. And it
24:21
creates that feeling of heaven on earth. Even though she
24:24
still has things that she works through, we still have
24:28
much more joy in the house. And it makes everything easier. Yeah.
24:32
Heck yeah.
24:33
Speaker 1: And we all want that. It would be great to have.
24:36
You know, just make it a little bit easier every
24:38
time and just be able to drop those. I love it.
24:42
It's like give that unconditional love to them then and
24:45
then see how that shifts. One of the things that
24:48
you say is that bliss is our superpower. What do
24:52
you mean by that?
24:54
Speaker 2: This was something where Metatron had told me, you need
24:56
to look for your bliss. You need to open portals
24:59
of bliss and let it pour through you. And at
25:02
first I was like, okay, well, yeah, everyone likes to
25:04
be in joy. Everyone wants to be happy. And I
25:07
thought it was just a descriptive thing that he was
25:11
talking about. But no, it's actually something that's almost measurable.
25:16
As you increase the bliss within yourself, then it makes
25:20
it easier for you to be comfortable. It makes it
25:23
easier for you to approach situations in a positive way.
25:27
It makes it easier for you to reach that state
25:30
of non-judgment where nothing affects you, nothing triggers you. Because
25:35
bliss is the thing that sustains you as you go
25:38
through any of the minor challenges. I mean, it extends
25:43
itself into you feel more of the unconditional love. You
25:46
feel like you radiate love out to people into situations.
25:50
And that's why I call it a superpower, because it
25:54
enables you to keep your frequency, your vibrational state high,
25:58
and to be productive even in difficult situations. Mm-hmm.
26:02
Speaker 1: And so I love this because my book that came
26:05
out last year is called High on Life, A Prescription
26:06
for Bliss. So I am down with the bliss and
26:12
look at it in a completely different way than what
26:14
we might think that bliss is just as you're speaking.
26:17
So how is bliss different from like happiness or joy
26:21
or excitement?
26:25
Speaker 2: I would say it's something where it takes all of
26:27
those pieces and it becomes something you can feel like
26:31
a support. To me, it's a supportive state. As you're
26:35
existing in bliss, then you start to feel like you're
26:39
rising above all of the challenges. You're rising above those
26:42
things that in the past would have put you into
26:45
a bad mood or made you angry or made you upset.
26:49
The bliss sustains all the other things you're trying to do.
26:52
For me, that's why it's a superpower.
26:55
Speaker 1: I believe that, yeah. It's like it holds the fabrics
26:59
that even though I will still experience emotions in my
27:02
life or still have things go up and down. It's
27:04
not going to take away my challenges. But because I
27:06
have this inner netting or fortitude that allows me to
27:12
then have these other experiences in my life and still
27:15
be able to move through them in a completely different way.
27:19
I call it a complete state of consciousness. So I
27:21
love that we are very much aligned in this and
27:25
that this message came to you from Metatron. When someone
27:32
is in this other state, right, if they're having the
27:34
grief or an uncertainty or a challenge, how can they,
27:42
by having this bliss or this state, this superpower, how
27:48
do those two coexist together for them? And what is
27:53
the benefit of being able to be in this bliss,
27:56
use this bliss superpower?
28:01
Speaker 2: Or someone who is fully awakened or mostly awakened, let's say,
28:06
you will find that you're able to see, even though
28:11
the grief that you might experience is still very real,
28:14
and I would never diminish anyone's grief or the pain
28:18
that they feel at a loss. As you feel the bliss,
28:23
as you feel the connection to all the universe, you
28:26
understand that whatever loss it was isn't actually permanent or
28:31
complete because if it's a say someone who has passed
28:36
on that person doesn't go away they are simply having
28:40
a different experience on their soul journey so the more
28:43
you're able to see that whether it's a financial situation
28:48
or a friend or a relative a loved one as
28:53
there's changes when you are securing yourself when you're feeling
28:57
that bliss within yourself then you can see that the
29:01
change happens and you're able to accept it more. And
29:05
that's one of the biggest pieces is being able to
29:07
accept a change or a situation and not have it
29:11
become something that takes you off of your game. And
29:14
some of these are very difficult. I mean, the loss
29:18
of someone who's very close to you, even though I
29:20
hear spiritual ascended masters or you know, high-level beings from
29:27
other planets, say, yeah, yeah, you shouldn't be in grief.
29:30
Grief is something you should not experience. You're not helping
29:33
anything when you do that. My thought to that is, well,
29:39
you may well be correct. I'm not going to say
29:42
that's not right. But in this human experience, in the
29:46
3D experience, it's still something you have to work through.
29:48
You just don't want to let your grief or your
29:51
interaction with a negative situation, quote-unquote negative situation, one you're
29:56
not enjoying, let that become something that affects your state
30:02
of bliss. And that's where bliss can come in to
30:05
allow you to move past, to have that period of mourning,
30:09
that period where you're now ready to accept that a
30:12
change has happened, knowing that there is no such thing
30:15
as death. It's simply the soul is going on to
30:19
have a different experience.
30:22
Speaker 1: Well, the beauty is that the human race here on
30:27
the earth was created for the experience of emotions. Right.
30:31
And so that's the full gamut of the emotions that
30:34
we get to have. And knowing that when we have
30:38
one of those dark or deeps, that also lets us
30:40
know have the highest highs and understand that experience. So
30:45
I believe the duality that we're living in now is
30:47
not that we're here to wipe out grief. I don't
30:50
necessarily agree with our other dimensional beings that maybe not
30:54
necessarily lived in the human body and understand the power
30:58
of what they created when we got to have this
31:01
emotion with us. But I do think that there's a
31:04
power behind the beauty of the love and the experiences
31:08
of grief and sadness or challenge or things that we
31:11
get to have in this body and then how we
31:15
can use this bliss to allow us to move through
31:19
it in a different way. And the other part of
31:21
that being one of the things that we talk about
31:23
with this heaven on earth besides bliss is you speak
31:25
about oneness. And I think oneness is a word many
31:29
people are hearing about right now, recently and more, you know,
31:34
in the last whatever, 50 years of our existence in
31:37
this planet. And then sometimes way in the past before
31:39
that we've forgotten it. But I don't think that they
31:42
always understand what that means. And I know for myself,
31:47
I didn't understand it until I first embodied and had
31:49
my first actual experience of oneness many years ago in 2015.
31:55
So can you define that oneness for someone in a
32:00
way that may be more or less esoteric than that
32:05
thing out there is like, oh, we're all one. Right.
32:09
Speaker 2: Yes. Part of this comes from the basic structure of
32:14
this universe and all the universes. So the source is
32:17
the all that is. And so as the source wanting
32:20
to experience itself in a different way, sent out fractals
32:24
or parts of itself to go and experience existence. And
32:30
so this process goes for forming all the universes. A
32:37
fractal will say, well, I can't have all the experiences
32:40
for source by myself, so I'm going to send out
32:43
fractals of myself. A fractal being an exact miniature copy,
32:48
something that's the same as the pieces above it. So
32:51
we go through this process. Eventually, you come down to
32:55
humans living on Earth, but we are actually source energy.
33:00
We are actually an individual piece of source having a
33:03
unique experience. So Melissa is source having an experience in
33:08
her life. I'm in a fractal of source having a
33:11
different experience, allowing source to see itself and to understand existence.
33:17
When you come to that understanding, then you realize there's
33:21
no real competition because Melissa's success is my success. My
33:26
neighbor's success is my success. And so I don't want
33:31
to see pain and suffering, and I would like to
33:34
avoid that. I would like to help and assist. And
33:37
this extends also not just to other people, but to
33:41
alien races, to animals, to plants, even to some of
33:46
the rocks and minerals. We see it with crystals. People
33:48
get it with crystals. But it's all of creation, and
33:52
we're all part of the same source energy. And so
33:56
when we learn to work together as a team, then
34:00
living in heaven on earth becomes something that everyone does.
34:04
And that'll be the big transition to the golden age
34:08
is that everyone is living in oneness, whether it's through
34:12
telepathy or through other psychic powers, but we'll understand that
34:17
we're all in the same team and it'll come to
34:20
a point where we'll want to do the thing that's
34:23
the best for everyone. You'll still have free will in
34:26
a way, you'll just be so wrapped in the bliss
34:32
that you wouldn't want to do anything that's not the
34:34
most positive outcome for everyone at all. One last thing
34:41
on the oneness I wanted to bring up. A lot
34:43
of people are concerned and I've heard it raised that,
34:47
was this going to be like a Borg? Is it
34:48
going to be like a hive mind? It's not really
34:51
in my experience. It's not a hive mind. You don't
34:54
lose your individuality no more than you have lose your
34:57
individuality today. when you go into that 5D with telepathy
35:01
and connection, you're just more aware of each other and
35:05
it's such a comfortable, warm feeling. And so the way
35:09
I describe it is it's like going to a house party.
35:12
You go to a house party with all your best
35:14
friends and you're just there. You interact with whoever you're
35:18
interacting with and you're having a great time. And if
35:22
there's someone comes to the door, then one person can
35:24
speak for the group. And that's how, as you go
35:27
into this collective soul situation where everyone is connected. They're
35:32
still individuals, but they're having a great time together. Yeah.
35:37
Speaker 1: It's very much like the autistic children that have been
35:40
speaking or talking about the experiences on the telepathy tapes
35:43
where they go to the mountain and they're all having
35:45
a conference there in their minds in the mountain and
35:47
they're having things and they bring back that information into
35:50
their singular bodies. I can remember the first time my nephew,
35:54
he went to my sister, his mom, and was like
35:59
telling her, he goes to this mountain to have conversations.
36:02
And she's like, well, you need to tell your aunt.
36:05
He's like, she already knows. You know, it's like you
36:10
get to be in this experience of like all of
36:13
these things where we get to still have the character,
36:16
the personality that I've put on in this life. But
36:19
then I get to have this beautiful, connection to these
36:23
other things that then helps us all to sustain. And
36:26
that oneness becomes like, if I'm connected to all these people,
36:29
how can I not love them? How can I not
36:30
treat everything great? How can I not want the best
36:33
for them and every experience that they're having at the
36:36
same time? Because I mean, my gosh, I'm connected. That's
36:40
part of me. But I still get to have this
36:42
personality and this experience. So I think that that's just,
36:46
you know, that's a the beauty of the possibilities of
36:51
where we can go. So one of the things that
36:57
you talk about, you said your connection to Metatron and
37:02
you're a priest of the Order of Melchizedek and you
37:04
have this connection with Quan Yin, but you've also spent
37:08
years working with Dragon Consciousness. And I'm sorry, but I
37:12
can't let you off this podcast without talking about the dragons.
37:18
And so can you, for someone that's hearing this for
37:21
the first time, they maybe have no idea, you know,
37:24
what is dragon consciousness? What are the dragons? Do you
37:27
see them as like, are they archetypes, energetic beings, symbols,
37:30
or something else? Tell us more about the dragons. Okay.
37:34
Speaker 2: This is my experience with the dragons in this lifetime. Okay.
37:40
To me, dragons are very real, higher dimensional beings. And
37:45
so they exist as, just as you might encounter an angel,
37:49
I encounter dragons in much the same way. There have
37:55
been dragons that, as I understand it, there's some that
37:59
are in Hawaii. I have a dragon that I connect
38:03
with in Hawaii. There's one in the Sedona. I say one,
38:06
there's probably many, but there's one that I connect with.
38:10
beings in Sedona, North Phoenix area. And they're much like
38:15
you might, at least as I see it, they're much
38:17
like you might see on the Game of Thrones dragons.
38:20
That's the way I perceive them in my mind. Now,
38:23
each of us also has a guardian dragon, just like
38:26
we have a guardian angel, we have a guardian dragon.
38:31
And those will be typically fourth dimensional dragons, and they'll
38:34
be tied to the type of person you are. So
38:37
like in astrology, you have different based on whatever your
38:42
sign is you could be a fire person a water
38:44
person air sign you'll have a dragon that corresponds to
38:49
that so when an earth sign i have an earth
38:52
dragon that is my guardian dragon when talking about the
38:58
dragon energy one of the first things to understand is
39:01
the byword is dragons have the highest level of integrity
39:06
and self-discipline so To interact with dragons is to understand
39:12
that they are beings of pure integrity. That is my
39:16
experience and my understanding. I love that.
39:21
Speaker 1: I have a dragon. My guardian dragon would be a
39:25
water dragon. dragon, but I also have another dragon that
39:31
has been definitely in my field that came in and
39:36
been working with. So I couldn't leave that go because
39:38
I love the dragons. My dear friend, one of my friends,
39:42
Adam Apollo, wrote The Dragon Keys. And just learning so
39:46
much about that consciousness being brought back to the earth
39:50
and the support of having the dragon energy is, I think, really,
39:54
really profound at this time. And I believe it's really powerful.
39:57
So thank you for sharing about that. And as we
40:04
are here walking through this, you talk about ascending to 5D, right?
40:09
What do you see for the future of humanity as
40:14
we begin to walk more in this heaven on earth.
40:21
Speaker 2: As we experience our linear time, there will come a
40:24
point when we get to 5D that the linear time
40:27
starts to fade. But for now, and in this existence,
40:31
we're on what the Mayans track with their 20-year long counts.
40:36
So in 2012 to 2032 is the time of new beginnings.
40:41
So we still have four or five more years of
40:44
possibly rough times in terms of the rebirth and the transition.
40:49
But from 2032 to 2052, that's the window where you're
40:54
going to start seeing a lot of really great things
40:57
come into place. And we'll start to live at a
41:00
much higher level where the governments or corporations are working
41:05
to support the collective more than just trying to make
41:08
profits like you see now or trying to bowl or
41:11
have power. Some of the teachings from the Order of
41:17
Melchizedek are that there's going to be seven root races
41:21
of humanity. Some of these go back to Lemuria, before Lemuria.
41:26
And so at the time of Atlantis and Atlantis falling,
41:29
we went into the fifth root race. And then the
41:33
next evolution of humanity, as we've gone from basically being
41:38
seventh-dimensional beings, in Atlantis we're fifth-dimensional beings, and now we're
41:42
third-dimensional beings, We're going to go back to being fifth-dimensional beings,
41:47
and that'll be the next race of humanity.
41:50
Speaker 1: A crystal in nature, or light, becoming more light, becoming
41:55
more crystalline. Not exactly light bodies yet, because that's a
41:58
higher dimension, more of the sixth-dimensional, but we'll definitely, because
42:02
we've been hearing a lot about that crystalline energy and
42:04
noticing how the shifting of the DNA. So I love this.
42:08
Speaker 2: Right. That'll be the big change to the sixth race
42:12
is we will become, crystalline beings with crystalline light bodies.
42:18
And it may take a while. And that's one of
42:21
the things that's not set in stone is how soon
42:23
is everyone ready to do this? There is a group
42:26
right now that's working very hard to see the first
42:31
process of this within the next year or so. It's
42:34
something that's out there. It's available online. for free, or
42:39
not for free, but for not a lot. It's not
42:41
a superhuman mystery school that you have to go to.
42:45
And so this will be starting within the next couple
42:48
of years. The thing that comes down to it is
42:51
once you're ready and you have all the DNA upgrades
42:54
and everything's in place, you're only waiting for a source
42:57
to flick the switch and say, you're now going to
43:00
change from being this carbon-based human to being this crystalline
43:06
silicon-based human. And you've got to raise the energy to
43:10
do it. You've got to stay positive. That's part of
43:12
being in heaven on earth now, is it puts you
43:15
vibrationally at a point where you're ready to go for
43:19
the higher version of the light bodies.
43:22
Speaker 1: And I think that is one of the reasons why
43:24
the mystery schools have come back and that there's so many,
43:26
but they're not, the messages aren't hidden. The things are
43:31
not behind just coveted closed doors. There's mass information coming
43:35
out because we're in this age of the revelation of
43:37
all of that. the revealing, you know, revelation to reveal
43:41
in this greater way so that we can all step
43:45
into this together. So thank you, Martin, so much for
43:51
all of your amazing Heaven on Earth work today and
43:53
for sharing a little bit about what you're going to
43:55
be offering in the chapter High on Life of Prescription.
43:57
I mean, nope, wrong book. We'll have to cut that out.
44:01
For the book, The Way of the Initiates, Stories of
44:03
Remembering Awakening and the New Human If you want to
44:05
find out more about Martin or our upcoming book that
44:09
releases in September, you can go to thewayofinitiate.com or go
44:12
to the show notes below and you'll find out everything
44:14
that you want about Martin and how to connect with
44:17
him and his amazing work that he's doing in this world.
44:20
And so Martin, I always finish our podcast here with
44:25
one last question. So when you hear the phrase high
44:29
on life, what does it mean to you?
44:32
Speaker 2: What that speaks to me, it's a phrase that I love.
44:36
It's an approach. It is understanding that being alive is
44:42
a blessing. Having the opportunity to experience this now is
44:48
really something we had to volunteer for, even though it
44:50
may not have felt like a great decision to volunteer
44:53
to be in this. But as we go through it now,
44:56
being high on life means you're able to embody heaven
45:00
on earth. It to me is feeling the bliss.
45:04
Speaker 1: Yep.
45:05
Speaker 2: Awesome.
45:06
Speaker 1: Thank you, Martin.
45:08
Speaker 2: All right. Thank you so much.
45:10
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45:14
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45:23
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