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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode. Episode number
- 0:05Speaker 1: 170 of the so-called Sports Analysts. Brecken, how are you doing?
- 0:13Speaker 2: I usually say I'm living the dream. I still am,
- 0:17Speaker 2: but I need you guys to remember that nightmares are
- 0:19Speaker 2: dreams as well. We just got done watching Monday Night
- 0:23Speaker 2: Football and the Saints fall to 1-3. You're in him, though.
- 0:29Speaker 2: dude it's rough i even genuinely i know each week
- 0:33Speaker 2: that i go like oh the saints you know we're
- 0:36Speaker 2: we're actually three you know in my books dude we
- 0:40Speaker 2: are we are what our record says we are what
- 0:43Speaker 2: our record no we are what our record says today
- 0:47Speaker 2: was rough man i had i had some family come
- 0:50Speaker 2: over and watch the game with me and they're oh Dude,
- 0:54Speaker 2: I was genuinely starting to get so pissed. I was
- 0:57Speaker 2: so happy they left at halftime.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Did you cook anything for them?
- 1:02Speaker 2: No, Jocelyn made green enchiladas with rice and beans. Mexican wife, brother.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Tap in.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I'm going to get more motivated more into the pod
- 1:20Speaker 2: whenever we start debating some more, but man, right now.
- 1:23Speaker 1: break just not feeling it right now so you know
- 1:26Speaker 1: what we're gonna start a different direction this time to
- 1:29Speaker 1: just like give breck in the spirit to lift up
- 1:32Speaker 1: so we're gonna start off with dynasty check where that
- 1:36Speaker 1: was a key matchup this week between breckin the champ
- 1:40Speaker 1: last year and myself and i'll wait till breckin shares
- 1:44Speaker 1: his screen but we'll we'll see how that went i
- 1:47Speaker 1: obviously i forgot to say this josh he isn't here
- 1:49Speaker 1: of course but Now with the new changes as far
- 1:52Speaker 1: as with college football, baseball, NBA.
- 1:55Speaker 3: We got to cover up the chat.
- 1:57Speaker 1: NBA, soccer.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. That's what sucks.
- 2:03Speaker 3: I was like, what? Now I remember the conversation.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry about that. Now it's going to be
- 2:10Speaker 1: a little different. But go ahead, Breck. I'll let you
- 2:13Speaker 1: explain this game right here.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Thank you, brother. I'll break this one down for you guys.
- 2:18Speaker 3: It was....
- 2:21Speaker 2: Going according to plan before tonight's game, it was like 46-54.
- 2:27Speaker 2: It was really close in Fonzo's favor. And I was saying,
- 2:33Speaker 2: Sleeper needs to fix their predictions. In my mind, I
- 2:36Speaker 2: had a 15% chance to win, and I didn't win.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Lost by 9, which is actually a lot better than
- 2:43Speaker 2: what I was expecting. I'm not going to lie. If
- 2:45Speaker 2: you look at my team these last couple of weeks,
- 2:47Speaker 2: I'm not even scoring over 150, man. I'm struggling to
- 2:51Speaker 2: score 120. And so scoring over 150 for the first
- 2:55Speaker 2: time on the season feels decent. You know, you would
- 2:58Speaker 2: expect as the champ, last year's champ, you'd be like, oh, yeah.
- 3:03Speaker 2: You know, and going into the season, I was power
- 3:06Speaker 2: ranked first. You'd be like, oh, he's going to BTA everybody.
- 3:10Speaker 2: I predicted I'd go 1-5, and holy shit, it looks
- 3:12Speaker 2: like I'm going to end up going 1-5. It doesn't
- 3:15Speaker 2: get any easier from here.
- 3:17Speaker 3: I'm going to go 1-5, and I was like, bro, Brett,
- 3:19Speaker 3: can you have the best team in the league? You're fine.
- 3:21Speaker 3: And then his team just dies.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Any easier from here. Doesn't get any easier from here.
- 3:27Speaker 2: So anyways, we're on to week four. Fonzo beat me.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Shuck does what Shuck does. I know 18 points isn't amazing.
- 3:36Speaker 2: But in reality, he played a really good game. Didn't
- 3:38Speaker 2: turn the ball over.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Only had one touchdown, too.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Yeah, only one touchdown. And then AK ran two in
- 3:45Speaker 2: that were on short goal line stuff. And it was
- 3:48Speaker 2: just a garbage time touchdown.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I'm so glad that happened.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yeah, in reality, this is damn near.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Dude, if Olave would have scored that touchdown, bro.
- 3:56Speaker 2: On that deep ball?
- 3:57Speaker 1: That would have been a lot more brutal.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been something. But, yeah, I think
- 4:03Speaker 2: I probably would have won, to be honest, if Olave
- 4:05Speaker 2: ended up. Because he would have had what? No, I
- 4:08Speaker 2: still would have lost.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have lost by like three.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Like one point or something. Because he still had like
- 4:14Speaker 2: 20 more yards to go and six points for the touchdown.
- 4:17Speaker 2: So I'm just guessing add seven.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Add seven touchdown plus a catch.
- 4:22Speaker 2: No, touchdown six, but yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, no, the
- 4:24Speaker 2: catch counted. The catch counted already into his stats. So
- 4:28Speaker 2: it was really just 20 yards and six points for
- 4:31Speaker 2: the touchdown. So it would have been eight. I still
- 4:33Speaker 2: would have lost. Still would have lost, but... It would
- 4:36Speaker 2: have been closer. But Stroud... 3.1. Stroud balling out. I'm
- 4:40Speaker 2: sure we're going to talk about this later in the pod.
- 4:41Speaker 2: He's kind of one of my hot topics. I did
- 4:43Speaker 2: trade him. I did trade him to... To Fonzo.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And everybody was.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Everybody was clowning on Fonzo. Everybody was clowning me.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Everybody was.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Not me, bro.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Not me. Yeah, and it looks like.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, except Brian.
- 4:57Speaker 2: It looks like it's working out.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I'm the biggest CJ Stroud fan.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I actually think I'm probably up there. I
- 5:03Speaker 2: do like CJ.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:05Speaker 3: We're up there. Me and Breckin defeated this dude with
- 5:07Speaker 3: our life last year in the playoff. While everyone in
- 5:10Speaker 3: our friend group was like, kill us, A.J. Trout.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Not really.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Kill John Lennon. Anyways, Jenty, not a super efficient day
- 5:21Speaker 2: against the Chiefs on the ground, but through the air
- 5:23Speaker 2: was super efficient. Eight targets with six catches for 68 yards.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Jalen Warren proves why whenever this backfield condenses, it is elite.
- 5:32Speaker 2: So with, what's his name out? Rico Dowdle. Jalen Warren
- 5:36Speaker 2: seems to get a lot of the work. This is
- 5:37Speaker 2: back-to-back weeks where he's having over 100 yards.
- 5:40Speaker 3: No TD, bro.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Yeah, no. He struggles to score touchdowns, man. And then
- 5:45Speaker 2: another guy that struggles to score touchdowns, Basil Tootin. You know,
- 5:48Speaker 2: put up a pretty solid game.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Two called-back touchdowns.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right? One of them was deep. One
- 5:54Speaker 2: of them was like a damn near 80-yard.
- 5:55Speaker 1: It was a 40-yard touchdown.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a long, long touchdown. Chase got a concussion.
- 6:01Speaker 2: I think this was what, like, whenever Chase went out,
- 6:04Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, okay.
- 6:05Speaker 1: That was brutal.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked nasty. The fact that, like, he's, I
- 6:13Speaker 2: don't think he's playing next week, but they were still
- 6:15Speaker 2: talking about maybe him playing next week.
- 6:16Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
- 6:17Speaker 1: What happened?
- 6:18Speaker 2: He got a face mask, but then, like, right after
- 6:21Speaker 2: the face mask, his head turned back around, and he
- 6:24Speaker 2: was already falling backwards, and someone jumped on top of him,
- 6:27Speaker 2: so his head bounced off the ground. So it was like,
- 6:31Speaker 2: his head got like rocked to the side from the
- 6:33Speaker 2: face mask and then bounced off the ground. So it
- 6:36Speaker 2: was just the bad situation. Um, Parker Washington, I don't
- 6:40Speaker 2: know if this is going to be talked about, but
- 6:42Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know.
- 6:44Speaker 3: He's like, man, I was thinking of selling him. I'm
- 6:47Speaker 3: not going to lie.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Yeah. He's been like, he's been like me now, like
- 6:52Speaker 2: the team in general, like they seem to spread the
- 6:54Speaker 2: ball out quite a bit, but, uh, Olave doing what
- 6:57Speaker 2: Olave does. Potential wide receiver one in the NFL right here.
- 7:00Speaker 2: You know, another 100-yard game. No touchdown again. He struggles
- 7:04Speaker 2: to get in the end zone. Neighbors, I mean, he
- 7:06Speaker 2: proves to you why you got to put them in
- 7:08Speaker 2: your lineup every single week. You know, this is just
- 7:10Speaker 2: explosive plays. He did get a little bit banged up
- 7:13Speaker 2: there at the end of this game. So maybe could
- 7:15Speaker 2: have got a little bit more out of the squeeze
- 7:17Speaker 2: on that juice. Pukunukuwa, first game back.
- 7:20Speaker 3: The return.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Yeah, just picking up right where he left off, just
- 7:24Speaker 2: absolutely cooked. I would have loved for him to miss
- 7:26Speaker 2: at least one more week. Tucker Craft, so this was
- 7:31Speaker 2: the trade that happened. So I traded C.J. Stroud. It
- 7:35Speaker 2: was essentially C.J. Stroud for D.J. Moore, and then I
- 7:38Speaker 2: turned around and flipped D.J. Moore for Tucker Craft, plus some.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Yeah, this week, D.J.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Got hurt. Yeah, D.J.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Did get hurt again. And then my outlook is I'm
- 7:48Speaker 2: already 1-4, potentially 1-5. I'm looking towards the future, and
- 7:53Speaker 2: DJ is 30 years old. Tucker Kraft is 25, and
- 7:56Speaker 2: I really, really needed a tight end.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Harold Fannin.
- 8:01Speaker 3: But you wanted to get Tucker Kraft.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Dude, Kyle Pitts has been pissing me off. JCM had
- 8:08Speaker 2: a touchdown called back. That hurt me. And it was
- 8:12Speaker 2: like a 40-yarder as well, so of course. RJ Harvey
- 8:16Speaker 2: doing it through the air like he always does. Not
- 8:18Speaker 2: on the ground, but through the air, man. 10 for 10.
- 8:20Speaker 1: 70 yards.
- 8:21Speaker 3: I saw a crazy stat about him, actually. For his fantasy,
- 8:26Speaker 3: he produces like eight points minimum in the air. If
- 8:31Speaker 3: he could get at least like six points, seven points.
- 8:35Speaker 2: On the ground.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I mean, every time, four catches, 23-6 for 41, 10
- 8:39Speaker 1: for 68. I mean, he gets crazy targets.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that Sean Payton offense. Check it down, Bo.
- 8:46Speaker 3: No, it's just not.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Seven targets a game. Hey, I'll take it.
- 8:51Speaker 3: I'll take it.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Kendra Miller, we'll see what he looks like next week
- 8:57Speaker 2: with the AK injury. We don't know what's going on there.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I traded him to Brecken, actually, for a 15 fab.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I traded for him.
- 9:06Speaker 3: His nickname was never Trade Brecken. Never Trade Brecken.
- 9:12Speaker 1: I had to give him Brecken. I had to sweeten
- 9:15Speaker 1: him up. Like, we're on good trading terms right now. So,
- 9:18Speaker 1: you know, like, He scratched my back, so I have
- 9:21Speaker 1: to scratch his back. You know, that's what good GMs do.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Kendra, he had a controversial fumble in this game, in
- 9:30Speaker 2: my opinion. I didn't think that was a fumble. But
- 9:34Speaker 2: it didn't end up mattering, so I'm not too upset
- 9:37Speaker 2: about it. Juwan Johnson, at the time, I was fucking hyped.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I did not care about fantasy football. Now that the
- 9:44Speaker 2: game is over, why did you have to play so
- 9:46Speaker 2: damn good?
- 9:47Speaker 1: Brecken, let me say this real quick.
- 9:48Speaker 3: It's not Jawan Johnson, bro.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I am.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Jawan-son.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Jawan-son.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I'm going to say this. I am the number one
- 9:55Speaker 1: Jawan Johnson fan now. And before, I used to like
- 9:58Speaker 1: Jawan Johnson. but because he helped me beat you in
- 10:02Speaker 1: fantasy football. The Penn State legend, he went to Glassboro
- 10:06Speaker 1: High School in New Jersey. I did my research tonight
- 10:09Speaker 1: before the pod, so I just want to say shout-out
- 10:11Speaker 1: to Jawan Johnson. He's already my so-called MVP of the week.
- 10:15Speaker 3: He's an athletic.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Freak, too, and he shows it off every single week
- 10:19Speaker 2: with these incredible catches and plays. His only thing is fumbles.
- 10:24Speaker 2: That's my only thing with Jawan.
- 10:27Speaker 1: He's a black Jake Ferguson, honestly.
- 10:31Speaker 2: No, he's more athletic. Well, I mean, I guess, yeah,
- 10:34Speaker 2: black jay for him. No, Drake May finally returning to
- 10:39Speaker 2: his former form. I know he had an interception and
- 10:42Speaker 2: a fumble. Neither of those were like, neither of them were,
- 10:47Speaker 2: you know, Italian subs or, you know, butterfingers. Those were
- 10:52Speaker 2: both blindside lit up. Blindside lit up and then Romeo
- 10:58Speaker 2: Dobbs literally like fucking all of you being it to
- 11:01Speaker 2: the defender. Um, Marcus Mariota goes out early in this game,
- 11:05Speaker 2: which I thought he actually, I mean, it showed he
- 11:10Speaker 2: scampered for 35 yards. He, uh, he was looking pretty
- 11:13Speaker 2: good and just an absolutely horrible game.
- 11:15Speaker 3: And he was going against Indy. He was going against Indy.
- 11:20Speaker 2: And I was like, bro, Indy's like one of the
- 11:22Speaker 2: worst defenses. I really thought, I think if he stayed healthy,
- 11:26Speaker 2: he would have cooked. Um, And then this was the
- 11:28Speaker 2: deciding factor. This is where those nine points went. This
- 11:32Speaker 2: is what won Fonzo the week.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And I picked him up this week. I spent a
- 11:38Speaker 1: dollar on him.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I'll beat Brian and Josh. How many did Will Lutz have?
- 11:43Speaker 2: I dropped him. He didn't beat me. He beat your dad.
- 11:45Speaker 2: He had eight. It didn't matter. I would have lost
- 11:48Speaker 2: to Will.
- 11:48Speaker 3: No, it was Josh. I got the number one kicker.
- 11:51Speaker 3: I got the number one kicker.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Andrew Pearson.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Yes.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Um, do we want to pull up Josh's teams or
- 11:59Speaker 2: Ryan's team?
- 12:00Speaker 3: You can go Josh and then do mine.
- 12:01Speaker 1: We go Josh. We could just skim through it real quick.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Josh's team. Um, obviously he won by 50 in my opinion.
- 12:08Speaker 2: It's either him. Honestly, it's him or one of y'all two.
- 12:11Speaker 2: That's going to end up winning it all. Um, Josh
- 12:14Speaker 2: Allen has like a mediocre day. Still has 21 points.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Damn.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Do I regret trading him away? Um, looking like, okay.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Derek Henry, you know, he's a guaranteed touchdown every single week.
- 12:29Speaker 2: That's always going to boost his score. The Emerald City
- 12:32Speaker 2: route artist, like, had a quiet day with five catches. Yeah,
- 12:38Speaker 2: I know. And then DJ Moore, like I said, he
- 12:42Speaker 2: ended up getting hurt again, a stinger on his shoulder again.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Dude, you traded away Hawkinson.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Look what he did this week.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
- 12:50Speaker 2: You forgot to say that.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Was part of the trade.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I know. We'll get there. We'll get there.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Romo Dunze, you know, six yards, a little bit of
- 12:59Speaker 2: a breakout game with a backup quarterback.
- 13:01Speaker 3: He decided to actually progress instead of progressing 0.1%. Yeah, 0.1, 0.1.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey had a pretty dud day for the most
- 13:10Speaker 2: of the season. I just traded away TJ Hawkinson for
- 13:13Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft. What does he end up doing?
- 13:16Speaker 3: 24.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Literally wins Josh. It didn't matter. He was winning either way.
- 13:25Speaker 2: And then Mike Evans. Oh, yeah, for sure. Mike Evans, Mr. Consistent,
- 13:31Speaker 2: just doing what he does. This is about what he
- 13:33Speaker 2: does every single week. He's a guaranteed, you know, 12
- 13:35Speaker 2: to 18 points, depending if he gets in the end
- 13:37Speaker 2: zone or not. Mahomes doing what he does every single week,
- 13:41Speaker 2: 21 points. Just all around really solid team. Just a
- 13:45Speaker 2: super high floor.
- 13:47Speaker 3: You got Jesse six points.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, bro. Thank you. and then Herbert throwing
- 13:55Speaker 2: up some fucking absolute stinkers.
- 13:57Speaker 3: I didn't start Herbert this week, bro. I started Mariota
- 14:00Speaker 3: over Herbert.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I was like, wait, who are you talking about but
- 14:02Speaker 1: the kicker?
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, you're real fucking funny. All right, now let's look
- 14:06Speaker 2: at Rye Fry's team. I think he was the highest
- 14:07Speaker 2: scorer this week. If not, it was Unk. Was it
- 14:10Speaker 2: you or Unk?
- 14:12Speaker 1: No, it was my dad. It was my dad, 207.
- 14:14Speaker 2: T-Law having a lackluster game, but, I mean, it was
- 14:17Speaker 2: enough to get the win, and, I mean, obviously enough
- 14:19Speaker 2: to get the win for you as well. uh chase
- 14:22Speaker 2: brown did a lot through the air absolutely nothing through
- 14:26Speaker 2: the ground for you here um.
- 14:29Speaker 3: I'm not chuba bro i remember him we're talking in
- 14:33Speaker 3: the off season we're like bro one of us is
- 14:35Speaker 3: gonna like have to what did we say you're like
- 14:38Speaker 3: one of us is gonna have to take to chuba
- 14:40Speaker 3: when he falls to the eighth round or something like that.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Yes bro because we were like we were talking about
- 14:44Speaker 2: how in redraft like all these guys are gonna be
- 14:47Speaker 2: like shooting up fucking Hail Marys on Cyrus Allen and
- 14:51Speaker 2: Caleb Douglas and shit like that. And we're like, bro,
- 14:54Speaker 2: somebody like Chuba's going to fall to the 10th, 11th round.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And be consistent as hell.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Yeah, like the value's there. I would sell off Chuba.
- 15:03Speaker 2: I feel like the same thing about the Steelers as
- 15:06Speaker 2: I do the Panthers. Whenever this backfield condenses, it gets
- 15:10Speaker 2: so good for fantasy. And then just good overall. I
- 15:14Speaker 2: don't understand why... Like, I understand the two RB situation
- 15:18Speaker 2: in the NFL. If you have a Monty and a Gibbs,
- 15:22Speaker 2: if you have, I can't think of any other running back, like, good,
- 15:26Speaker 2: like a Corum, like a Blake Corum and Kyron Williams.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Even Kyron destroys the backfield.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, if you have two good
- 15:36Speaker 2: running backs.
- 15:38Speaker 1: That's all.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Yeah, but in reality, like, these guys, like, you can easily,
- 15:43Speaker 2: I mean, Chuba had 22 or 21 targets, 21 touches.
- 15:48Speaker 2: That's not that crazy in reality, you know. Chase Brown
- 15:53Speaker 2: had 20 touches. Jalen Warren had, like, 19 touches. And
- 15:57Speaker 2: so it's like, why split that up between two guys
- 15:59Speaker 2: whenever you can have one? I don't know. I don't
- 16:01Speaker 2: get it in my personal opinion. It's like, if you
- 16:04Speaker 2: have one guy that's, like, obviously the rb1 and then
- 16:07Speaker 2: another guy that's like ah he's solid like i i
- 16:11Speaker 2: feel like teams are too infatuated with this two rb
- 16:14Speaker 2: stigma right now but like i said whenever this field
- 16:17Speaker 2: condenses chuba's gonna eat um.
- 16:21Speaker 3: He's been so good switch this year.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i mean this this match this week yeah
- 16:28Speaker 2: this week yeah for real up Dude, I think Kyron
- 16:34Speaker 2: Williams has already had more receiving yards this season than
- 16:38Speaker 2: he has in the last two, three seasons combined or
- 16:41Speaker 2: some shit like that.
- 16:42Speaker 3: That's like 700, I think.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely insane. Going on to Zay Flowers, I mean,
- 16:49Speaker 2: whenever he plays, man, is he a dog. If this
- 16:53Speaker 2: will load, I clicked on him.
- 16:54Speaker 3: That's why I have myself winning.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Yeah, true.
- 17:00Speaker 3: My wide receiver four is Zip Lodge. Drakey Poo. Wait,
- 17:05Speaker 3: you got to scroll up.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Drakey Poo doing what he does.
- 17:09Speaker 3: Don't forget.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Terry McLennan.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Nico went crazy.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Freaking Damien.
- 17:14Speaker 2: He started Terry?
- 17:16Speaker 1: Okay, just behind the scenes, Brecken. Just behind the scenes.
- 17:19Speaker 1: So during the group chat, he said that he didn't
- 17:24Speaker 1: realize or what do you say? Terry McLennan was out
- 17:26Speaker 1: an hour before. And he didn't see it, and obviously
- 17:29Speaker 1: it was an early game. But he was doubtful the
- 17:31Speaker 1: day before. And he's like, oh. He's like, oh, I
- 17:35Speaker 1: had 18 points on my bench. Like, he would have
- 17:36Speaker 1: started Darius Cooper, or he would have started– Keon Coleman.
- 17:40Speaker 4: He still would have got waxed he called me saying
- 17:43Speaker 4: that shit he's like bro I left I didn't even
- 17:46Speaker 4: start my best lineup bro oh I had Darius Cooper
- 17:49Speaker 4: on the bench I had fucking Tyquan Thornton he didn't
- 17:52Speaker 4: have Tyquan Thornton but like some bullshit like that and
- 17:54Speaker 4: I'm like bro you act like you would have started
- 17:56Speaker 4: any of them over like Jobs or Schultz he.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Only would have started Keon yeah and he still would
- 18:03Speaker 1: have got bailed bro and Keon's like debatable I knew
- 18:05Speaker 1: he was going to.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Have a good week.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Keon had like 23. No, I knew Romeo Dobbs was
- 18:10Speaker 3: going to have a good week. Every time we play Damien,
- 18:13Speaker 3: like I play Damien, his players just go off. Like
- 18:16Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, I think last year we played, had like
- 18:18Speaker 3: 40 points with the Packers. And like Rashad White just
- 18:22Speaker 3: happened to get all the touches that game and had
- 18:24Speaker 3: like a million. I don't know. So annoying. I finally
- 18:27Speaker 3: beat him.
- 18:27Speaker 2: But Mr. Big Cock Brock, who... Is he going to
- 18:32Speaker 2: end up missing another week or two? Like, what's going
- 18:35Speaker 2: on with that, Ryan?
- 18:35Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 18:37Speaker 3: He's fine.
- 18:38Speaker 1: He's fine. Don't say that.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even remember him getting hurt.
- 18:42Speaker 1: First two weeks back, Titan 1 and Titan 3, bro.
- 18:45Speaker 1: You love to see that, bro. You love to see that.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Bro, Josh Downs, I was seeing so many, must start
- 18:52Speaker 2: this week, must start this. I should have known with
- 18:56Speaker 2: the early window that it was like, destiny is going
- 19:00Speaker 2: to be real weird.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I saw a thing and it was like, Maybe the
- 19:02Speaker 3: Josh Downs experiment was just about the friends we made
- 19:05Speaker 3: along the way.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Because it's so true, bro.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Like, dude, this is the most consolidated the wide receiver
- 19:15Speaker 3: room has been to him. And Laquan Treadwell had more
- 19:18Speaker 3: targets in yards than me.
- 19:21Speaker 1: That's so nasty, bro. Yeah. That's funny.
- 19:25Speaker 3: It was horrible.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, I mean, he's just kind of a nice
- 19:29Speaker 2: little flex play.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:31Speaker 3: I'm so happy I got Jared Goff my friend from
- 19:35Speaker 3: here in Lubbock texted me because I sent him the
- 19:37Speaker 3: trade of when me and Ryan O made it and
- 19:41Speaker 3: I was like should I do it and I was
- 19:43Speaker 3: giving him I was giving that guy I was giving
- 19:45Speaker 3: him Tet and I was getting Drake back and that
- 19:47Speaker 3: was like the meat of the deal and um... What
- 19:51Speaker 3: was it?
- 19:51Speaker 1: Price for Goff?
- 19:53Speaker 3: Yeah, Price for Goff, and I gave him... He gave
- 19:55Speaker 3: me Pollard, and I gave him a first-round pick. So,
- 19:58Speaker 3: to be honest, he might have won, like, in the
- 20:00Speaker 3: long term, but I'm so happy I got Jared Goff
- 20:05Speaker 3: on my team, bro. I would have to been starring...
- 20:08Speaker 3: Malik Willis and Gino Smith, bro. I'm so happy I
- 20:12Speaker 3: traded for Jared Goff.
- 20:14Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
- 20:17Speaker 3: It made my team so much better.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Dude, Damien was like, bro, my whole team's injured. I
- 20:23Speaker 2: have Garrett Nussmeier out. Bro, shut the fuck up.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I hate when he does that.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Bro, I have Garrett Nussmeier. And then he goes, bro,
- 20:31Speaker 2: do you think Tua's ever going to get a shot?
- 20:33Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
- 20:34Speaker 1: No, not the way Michael Penix is playing, bro.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Hell no. Y'all are trashing on the NFC South. Now
- 20:41Speaker 2: we got three MVP candidates in the NFC South.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Bro, I'm not trashing.
- 20:47Speaker 3: We just know they're going to be 9-8 at the
- 20:49Speaker 3: end of the season.
- 20:51Speaker 1: You know what? What's funny is you're not wrong. Let's
- 20:53Speaker 1: talk about two of them. Let's talk about two of them.
- 20:56Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints versus the Atlanta Falcons, in which
- 21:00Speaker 1: the Falcons ran all over the Saints over 200 yards,
- 21:04Speaker 1: five total touchdowns, rushing touchdowns. 45 to 24. But if
- 21:09Speaker 1: you flip the score, it'd be 45 to 42. So
- 21:13Speaker 1: it'd be a pretty close game. So Brecken, how are
- 21:18Speaker 1: you feeling from this game?
- 21:22Speaker 2: No, this one hurts, man. Like I said at the
- 21:26Speaker 2: beginning of this podcast, This one really hurts. It's the
- 21:29Speaker 2: fucking Dirty Birds. I hate these pieces of shit. I
- 21:32Speaker 2: saw so many.
- 21:33Speaker 3: Reels this week. When I saw them, I would send
- 21:37Speaker 3: them to you. Man, I kind of feel bad for
- 21:40Speaker 3: the Dirty Birds. No, I do. I hate the Dirty Birds.
- 21:45Speaker 3: I hate the Dirty Birds.
- 21:46Speaker 2: It sucks because I love Bijan. We live in Texas,
- 21:56Speaker 2: all of us, and so watching him play at UT,
- 21:59Speaker 2: he is such a special athlete. Also being so involved
- 22:02Speaker 2: in fantasy football, I love Bijan so much. And then, dude,
- 22:06Speaker 2: the Falcons always seem to draft these guys that I like,
- 22:10Speaker 2: and man, it pisses me off that they all go
- 22:12Speaker 2: to the Falcons. The team pisses me off, the coaching.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Pisses me off. He liked Avion Terrell.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Dude, I did like Avion Terrell. I really liked Avion Terrell.
- 22:22Speaker 2: I really liked both of them. I really liked James Pierce.
- 22:26Speaker 2: I really liked James Pierce.
- 22:28Speaker 1: You did like James Pierce.
- 22:29Speaker 2: I also liked Walker. I also really liked Walker. Dude,
- 22:33Speaker 2: and it's so... Their defense.
- 22:36Speaker 3: Could be so nasty.
- 22:38Speaker 2: If fucking people weren't suspended and injured, yeah. And they
- 22:42Speaker 2: didn't get rid of Caden Ellis. But last week, I
- 22:46Speaker 2: don't know if we did really talk about it. I know.
- 22:50Speaker 2: I talked about it in our group chat. I was
- 22:52Speaker 2: talking about it in our group chat leading up to
- 22:54Speaker 2: this game. I was super excited, but I was also...
- 22:57Speaker 2: I literally called it to the T. I was like, B.
- 23:00Speaker 2: John Robinson is going to tear us up, and then
- 23:03Speaker 2: Drake London is going to just catch all these contested
- 23:06Speaker 2: physical balls. Now, Kool-Aid... Kaden Ellis was... We had our...
- 23:13Speaker 2: We had Pete Warner.
- 23:13Speaker 3: He said they got rid of... He said they got
- 23:15Speaker 3: rid of Caden Ellis. What did Caden Ellis do today, bro?
- 23:18Speaker 3: He let Dijon run all over him.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Caden Ellis was hurt today.
- 23:23Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, bro.
- 23:27Speaker 2: I do think that was kind of a factor in
- 23:29Speaker 2: this game.
- 23:29Speaker 3: No, I think it is, too. I think Caden Ellis
- 23:31Speaker 3: is a good linebacker.
- 23:33Speaker 2: We were out three of our linebackers. So Pete Warner
- 23:36Speaker 2: is typically a starter, but then our two and three linebacker,
- 23:40Speaker 2: our Will and Sam were.
- 23:41Speaker 3: What about that boy Danny Stuntsman?
- 23:44Speaker 2: Bro, he did not look good. He looked slow as hell. B.
- 23:49Speaker 2: John bounced into the... On that... Yonah Sinker did look good,
- 23:53Speaker 2: and he always looks good. On that first touchdown that B.
- 23:55Speaker 2: John had, you see Stutzman fucking... Was he number 40? No,
- 24:03Speaker 2: not 40. He's like 44 or something like that. I
- 24:05Speaker 2: don't know who number 40 was for the Saints. He's
- 24:08Speaker 2: some elevated guy. But....
- 24:13Speaker 1: Dude, he was moving so slow.
- 24:14Speaker 2: You can just say he sucks, bro. He was moving
- 24:16Speaker 2: so slow. I said he sucks.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Um.
- 24:21Speaker 3: No, but, uh.
- 24:22Speaker 2: The second you say it, I'm gonna know who it is. But, um...
- 24:25Speaker 2: Are you Diggs? Oh, that is Diggs. He's been... I
- 24:30Speaker 2: know who he is. Because I remember I thought he was, like,
- 24:32Speaker 2: related to Stefan or something. Um... I don't think he is.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Um.
- 24:38Speaker 3: No.
- 24:38Speaker 2: But, uh... He's way too fat.
- 24:41Speaker 3: Um.
- 24:43Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, like I said, the Saints looked bad.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I literally called it. I was like, our corners aren't
- 24:49Speaker 2: physical enough. And then Kool-Aid, it literally looked like he
- 24:52Speaker 2: knew that he wasn't physical enough for Drake London. So
- 24:55Speaker 2: he was just grabbing that motherfucker. He was trying the
- 24:58Speaker 2: best he could. Bro, drawing penalties like a motherfucker, bro.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Like he was trying his damn best, bro. And Jonas Sanker,
- 25:05Speaker 2: I mean, he was playing all over the field. I
- 25:07Speaker 2: wanted to see him ball out. Yeah, but he just
- 25:10Speaker 2: took over that Elante Taylor role. And in this defense,
- 25:13Speaker 2: I think, I think that slot corner slash strong safety.
- 25:15Speaker 3: Y'all really miss Elante Taylor.
- 25:18Speaker 2: I do miss Elante Taylor.
- 25:18Speaker 1: He's so good.
- 25:19Speaker 3: I love Elante Taylor.
- 25:21Speaker 2: But going into this game, I called out Chase Young.
- 25:24Speaker 2: I was like, dude, you need to ball out. You've
- 25:25Speaker 2: been doing really good this season with, you know, your
- 25:27Speaker 2: pressure rate and getting to the quarterback. You know, he's
- 25:30Speaker 2: been getting a sack to a sack and a half
- 25:31Speaker 2: a game. And this game, I don't believe that he
- 25:35Speaker 2: got a sack, but he got a TFL. And he
- 25:37Speaker 2: had a couple of, he actually had a pass deflection.
- 25:40Speaker 2: He had a really good pass deflection where he got
- 25:42Speaker 2: up there. And he was putting pressure on Pennix, but man,
- 25:44Speaker 2: their quick game was just too good. And then their
- 25:47Speaker 2: run game was pausing up these linebackers and stuff to
- 25:50Speaker 2: where they were able to just toss it right over
- 25:52Speaker 2: our heads. Yeah, going into this game, B. John was
- 25:57Speaker 2: going to be an issue. Then apparently so is Brian
- 26:00Speaker 2: Robinson as well.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Brian Robinson, 12 carries in.
- 26:06Speaker 2: And he doesn't lose. He doesn't lose.
- 26:08Speaker 1: He doesn't lose. This has gone back to three years.
- 26:10Speaker 1: All the old-timers know this.
- 26:11Speaker 3: It's only one game he's lost.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Brian Robinson.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, I think he did
- 26:16Speaker 2: lose that one or two games.
- 26:17Speaker 3: Against the Eagles.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it was against the Eagles. But, like, you're, like, 12-1.
- 26:22Speaker 1: I think we tracked it back.
- 26:23Speaker 3: It's 12-1.
- 26:23Speaker 1: So.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Brian Robinson, the Robinsons, bro. Meet the Robinsons, bro.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Yeah, right?
- 26:30Speaker 1: Dude, shut up there, bro.
- 26:32Speaker 3: I was literally thinking of that. I saw a team name. No,
- 26:37Speaker 3: it was in redraft. Brendan had Amin Ra and A.J. Brown.
- 26:40Speaker 3: I was like, meet the Browns would be good.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Meet the Browns. No, but 420 total yards.
- 26:45Speaker 2: I need to talk about the Saints' offense first. Go ahead. Dude.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Shuck looks good. I'm not blaming Kellen Moore, to be honest.
- 26:59Speaker 2: We can't run the ball. Yes, I get that ETN's out,
- 27:03Speaker 2: but man, we just straight up can't. We had 25 yards.
- 27:09Speaker 2: 25 rushing yards. We had how many carries?
- 27:13Speaker 1: 10.
- 27:13Speaker 2: We ended up getting 15 more rushing yards in garbage time.
- 27:18Speaker 2: That didn't matter. Whenever the game was actually being played,
- 27:21Speaker 2: we had 25 rushing yards. That's just And it's been
- 27:24Speaker 2: like this every single week. I don't think that we've
- 27:26Speaker 2: had a game over 50 rushing yards. And Tyler Shuck,
- 27:29Speaker 2: he's averaging, what is it, like 45-plus dropbacks a game. Like,
- 27:36Speaker 2: that's just not a recipe for success, especially whenever it's
- 27:40Speaker 2: a young quarterback like this. And I know, like, oh, yeah,
- 27:43Speaker 2: he has some experience. And, you know, he played college
- 27:45Speaker 2: football for seven years and all that stuff. And he's
- 27:47Speaker 2: playing like he has a lot of experience and like
- 27:49Speaker 2: a pro. But, dude, whenever the defense knows something, that
- 27:53Speaker 2: you're going to throw the ball every single play because
- 27:56Speaker 2: you can't fucking run. Like, it's going to be easy
- 28:00Speaker 2: to cover. Like, I'm sorry. Like, Shuck, I know he
- 28:03Speaker 2: didn't throw a pick in this game. He's thrown a pick.
- 28:06Speaker 2: He's already thrown, what is it, like two picks already
- 28:09Speaker 2: on the season, maybe three. And he's running for his life.
- 28:12Speaker 2: He's getting hit almost every single play. He's still playing
- 28:15Speaker 2: at an extremely high level and just, you know, elevating
- 28:17Speaker 2: the play at quarterback. But as a Saints fan, for
- 28:19Speaker 2: the last six years, ever since Drew Brees left, the
- 28:22Speaker 2: issue has been at quarterback and you're like dude our
- 28:24Speaker 2: own line's good our running back's good our receiving room's
- 28:27Speaker 2: good and our defense is good it's just the quarterback
- 28:30Speaker 2: it's just the quarterback it looks like we found our
- 28:32Speaker 2: quarterback like he's playing I mean we'll talk about it
- 28:35Speaker 2: later but he's playing at like a debatable MVP level
- 28:37Speaker 2: right now and it's our receiving core is still good
- 28:42Speaker 2: and it's just we can't run the ball like you
- 28:44Speaker 2: guys need to be able to do a change of
- 28:46Speaker 2: pace like Look at Jared Goff, not like an insane athlete,
- 28:50Speaker 2: an insane quarterback or anything like that, but he's got,
- 28:53Speaker 2: he's got Jameer Gibbs. Look at Michael Penix. He, you know,
- 28:58Speaker 2: one week looks like he's fucking a benchable player in
- 29:00Speaker 2: the NFL. And then now he's got Bijan and a
- 29:04Speaker 2: new OC and, you know, he's, he's done people up
- 29:06Speaker 2: throwing for 300 yards a week. So I know Shuck
- 29:09Speaker 2: is still doing it. He's still doing his thing and
- 29:11Speaker 2: he's still balling out. But in reality, I'm really worried
- 29:14Speaker 2: that he's going to end up getting hurt or something
- 29:15Speaker 2: like that because like, like, it's just him dropping back
- 29:18Speaker 2: 50 times a game.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think with the, that's why I was
- 29:23Speaker 1: saying the Kellen Moore experience, it's not necessarily, like, just that.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, it's going back to even Dallas, whenever he
- 29:30Speaker 1: was a coordinator in Dallas. He gets very trigger happy
- 29:33Speaker 1: when he has a good quarterback that could throw the ball. Like,
- 29:36Speaker 1: we've seen that with Dak before. And Nick Sirianni, even
- 29:39Speaker 1: on that championship run he had to tell Kellen Moore
- 29:42Speaker 1: to run the ball because he would get trigger happy
- 29:44Speaker 1: and I just think especially since you can't run the
- 29:46Speaker 1: ball Kellen Moore's like let just let Shuck just throw
- 29:50Speaker 1: this thing I think he has the most pass attempts
- 29:53Speaker 1: if not for not for Bryce Young if I'm not
- 29:56Speaker 1: mistaken and Yeah.
- 29:59Speaker 2: And Goff is up there for pass attempts too.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Goff, but I think this last game
- 30:04Speaker 1: inflated Goff like crazy, this one. But, I mean, that's
- 30:07Speaker 1: just what happens with Kellen Moore. And I'm just presenting something.
- 30:13Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to be a
- 30:14Speaker 1: trend for Atlanta, but these last two games, their philosophy
- 30:19Speaker 1: has been, they went from having no philosophy. The first
- 30:21Speaker 1: two games were terrible with Cooper Rush.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Because they didn't, yeah, all they needed was Michael Kinnick's proof.
- 30:26Speaker 1: So, The last two games against the Packers held them
- 30:31Speaker 1: to 1.9 yards per carry, held the Saints to 2.6
- 30:34Speaker 1: yards per carry. Okay, these two teams could not run
- 30:37Speaker 1: the ball. I'm not saying they could, but maybe there's
- 30:41Speaker 1: an identity building right here with the Falcons. Run the
- 30:44Speaker 1: ball and stop the run. I know it's too early
- 30:47Speaker 1: to say, but this is something where I just want
- 30:50Speaker 1: to see if this continues against... The better teams because
- 30:53Speaker 1: I don't know who they play next week. But, I mean,
- 30:55Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Michael Penix doesn't have to do much.
- 30:58Speaker 1: You have talent on the outside. So, it's just something
- 31:02Speaker 1: to look at.
- 31:03Speaker 2: He's lining up under center.
- 31:03Speaker 3: I really like what Stefanski did today.
- 31:06Speaker 2: He's lining up under center at like a 90th percentile
- 31:09Speaker 2: or some shit. It's insane. That's insane.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Y'all hated on this– or not y'all, but Brecken did
- 31:14Speaker 3: not like this Stefanski signing. Or bringing them in for Stefanski.
- 31:19Speaker 2: I didn't like it.
- 31:20Speaker 3: For the Falcons head coach job. And I think he
- 31:23Speaker 3: runs a good offense. I think he's a good head coach.
- 31:26Speaker 3: He took the Browns to the playoffs two times. What
- 31:29Speaker 3: more do you want from the guy? And I saw
- 31:32Speaker 3: a stat that you were just talking about, Breckin. It
- 31:35Speaker 3: was he had 35 snaps under center last year. And
- 31:40Speaker 3: last week against the Packers, he had 35 snaps under center.
- 31:44Speaker 3: So he's already passed. Yeah, what he's used to. And
- 31:49Speaker 3: I just think they're making it so much easier for him.
- 31:53Speaker 3: I really liked him coming out of college. He's a gunslinger.
- 31:57Speaker 3: He's not very mobile. But you can't blame the guy.
- 31:59Speaker 3: He's had three ACL tears.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
- 32:03Speaker 3: But that dude can sling the rock. And they made
- 32:06Speaker 3: it so easy for him. It's just play action and
- 32:09Speaker 3: then dump it off. Play action, dump it off. And
- 32:12Speaker 3: it's just simple little plays like that. And that's like
- 32:14Speaker 3: the beauty of play calling. I love whenever play callers
- 32:17Speaker 3: run stuff like that. And whenever you have Bijan in
- 32:20Speaker 3: your backfield, you're just going to feed him. Or I
- 32:23Speaker 3: should say Brian Robinson in your backfield. You're just going
- 32:26Speaker 3: to feed him.
- 32:28Speaker 1: He found out the strat. He definitely watched the pod.
- 32:30Speaker 3: And then you have Drake London on the outside. Just
- 32:34Speaker 3: pepper him with targets. And they were able to get
- 32:36Speaker 3: open today also. I just really like how Stefanski called
- 32:41Speaker 3: this game. I think they just really needed Michael Penix
- 32:43Speaker 3: to come back. I don't know what they're going to
- 32:47Speaker 3: look like in the future. I honestly think they're going
- 32:48Speaker 3: to be 9-8. I think the whole division is going
- 32:50Speaker 3: to be 9-8. It's going to come down to tiebreakers.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Dude, I'm so.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Tiebreakers, points, conference wins. The Falcons play the Ravens, but
- 33:00Speaker 2: then after that, it's like the Bears. They have a
- 33:04Speaker 2: lighter schedule coming up.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Dude, the....
- 33:08Speaker 2: The saints go to the vikings next week fuck me
- 33:12Speaker 2: turn around play the giants dude i'm just so good
- 33:15Speaker 2: i'm genuinely so scared y'all are gonna be so bad.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Oh my brian's gonna have a field dude.
- 33:24Speaker 2: That's where i'm like that's what i was talking about
- 33:25Speaker 2: earlier is like dude i'm like genuinely i don't know.
- 33:28Speaker 1: What's up with this line i think this line kelvin
- 33:32Speaker 1: banks is out he's out that's a big loss and
- 33:36Speaker 1: that's where all the pressure is coming.
- 33:37Speaker 3: From I feel like they're getting up the middle a
- 33:41Speaker 3: lot as well.
- 33:42Speaker 2: And Oscar Delp, like, we drafted Oscar Delp as, like,
- 33:46Speaker 2: a blocking tight end. I get he's a rookie dude.
- 33:50Speaker 2: We need to get, like, a fucking— He's indisciplined. We
- 33:52Speaker 2: need a Darnell Washington or something, bro.
- 33:54Speaker 3: What y'all need is to practice ball security, bro.
- 33:59Speaker 2: We lead the NFL in fumbles. We lead the NFL
- 34:01Speaker 2: in fumbles. I'm not joking. We're leading the league in fumbles.
- 34:05Speaker 2: It's insane. Two fumbles were very debatable. Two of the
- 34:09Speaker 2: fumbles were very debatable.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Something about the Saints with fumbles. The Kendra Miller one,
- 34:15Speaker 1: that was similar to the Zachariah Branch, the non-fumble. That
- 34:21Speaker 1: was real similar. I don't know if this is crazy,
- 34:25Speaker 1: but I might take Atlanta to be upset Baltimore next week.
- 34:29Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm, I don't, I don't, I
- 34:32Speaker 1: think this is a good plan. But I think just
- 34:38Speaker 1: in general, if, if the Falcons can run the ball,
- 34:41Speaker 1: Bijan is on a heater. These last two games, they
- 34:44Speaker 1: could play keep away.
- 34:46Speaker 3: I don't think I'm just being Derek Henry though.
- 34:49Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm just saying, I think I, Honestly, you
- 34:53Speaker 1: know what? I'm going to take the Falcons. I'll take
- 34:55Speaker 1: the Falcons in the pick-up.
- 34:56Speaker 2: It's really just whoever has a turnover, to be honest.
- 34:59Speaker 1: I think so, too.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I think that's straight up what the game can come
- 35:02Speaker 2: down to is which team turns the ball over.
- 35:04Speaker 3: I do think the Falcons have a pretty good defense, though.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I really like what Jeff Ulbrich is doing. I saw
- 35:08Speaker 3: it last year. Sorry, I'm bad as these. No, I'm not.
- 35:12Speaker 3: All right, my bad. But... We saw it last year
- 35:17Speaker 3: with the two edges they brought in. I don't want
- 35:19Speaker 3: to fucking talk about these pieces of shit.
- 35:20Speaker 2: They just generated so much pressure.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Dee Poi, or Dee Roy, defensive rookie of the year. And, yeah,
- 35:29Speaker 3: they're doing this, and they don't even have A.J. Terrell
- 35:32Speaker 3: on their best covered corner out there.
- 35:34Speaker 2: And they don't have either of their DNs.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have either of their outside rushers.
- 35:40Speaker 2: Actually, even their third DN, what's his name, Smith, got
- 35:42Speaker 2: hurt today.
- 35:43Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he had a concussion.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not even at full strength.
- 35:48Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think what Jeff Ulbrich is doing with
- 35:52Speaker 3: this team that he has now is pretty sick. I
- 35:55Speaker 3: will say, well, it's pretty good against the Saints. Against
- 35:58Speaker 3: the Packers, I don't think the Packers are that good,
- 36:01Speaker 3: but the Saints have been dominating. So, yeah.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Dude, I want to kill myself.
- 36:07Speaker 3: To the Saints fans.
- 36:09Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and get on to.
- 36:11Speaker 3: I freaking picked the Saints this week, too, bro. Let's
- 36:12Speaker 3: go ahead and go on to.
- 36:13Speaker 1: I'm the only one that picked the Falcons, too.
- 36:16Speaker 5: I'm surprised.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I'm the Falcons guy, bro. Yeah, no, you're not, bro.
- 36:19Speaker 1: I'm the Falcons guy, bro.
- 36:20Speaker 2: No, you're not.
- 36:20Speaker 1: I'm picking them to be balls for next year. I'm
- 36:22Speaker 1: the Falcons guy. I'm the Falcons guy now.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Be the Falcons guy, bro.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the Falcons guy. Dirty Bird. How do they
- 36:28Speaker 1: do the Dirty Bird?
- 36:30Speaker 3: You're going to lose next week. Lamar's going to put
- 36:32Speaker 3: an MVP performance, and B. John's not going to be
- 36:35Speaker 3: the same.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Bro, Drew Brees was at the game, man.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Dude, speaking of MVP performance, let's talk about the Dallas
- 36:43Speaker 1: Cowboys versus the Houston Texans right here, which first half
- 36:47Speaker 1: looked very scary right here. Second half, Cowboys, they stormed back,
- 36:53Speaker 1: scoring 28 points in the second half, went 34-30, game
- 36:56Speaker 1: went in drive to CeeDee Lamb, where, bro, I guess
- 37:00Speaker 1: they forgot just to cover one of the best wide
- 37:02Speaker 1: receivers in the game right here.
- 37:04Speaker 3: They doubled pickings to leave him open. Crazy. So.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Takeaways from this game.
- 37:11Speaker 2: Dude, it was, it was okay. So like we said earlier,
- 37:16Speaker 2: we're talking about CJ shroud and us being CJ shroud shooters.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Everybody was hating on this guy in the playoffs and
- 37:23Speaker 2: stuff like that. And he did play bad. He played
- 37:26Speaker 2: really bad last year. He didn't play great. And the
- 37:28Speaker 2: thing with the story of the Texans, I mean, it's
- 37:30Speaker 2: been the same thing year over year over year, right?
- 37:32Speaker 2: It's been this old line. That's been really bad. And
- 37:35Speaker 2: CJ shroud doesn't have time. It's been this running backs,
- 37:38Speaker 2: not being able to run the ball. Now, is that
- 37:39Speaker 2: due to the whole line or is that due to
- 37:41Speaker 2: the talent in the backfield or is it a combo
- 37:45Speaker 2: of both? And, you know, that's still prevalent today for
- 37:49Speaker 2: the Texans. But the one thing that you could always
- 37:52Speaker 2: count on was the Texans defense. And apparently not, apparently
- 37:58Speaker 2: not this season. They go 0-4 going into this game.
- 38:01Speaker 2: I was like, dude, the Texans can't go 0-4. They're
- 38:05Speaker 2: too talented of a defense, too talented of a team.
- 38:08Speaker 2: There's no way the NFL will let that happen. Then
- 38:10Speaker 2: I went, but there's no way the Cowboys go 1-3.
- 38:13Speaker 2: They're too much of a big market. If they go 0-3,
- 38:16Speaker 2: all these Cowboys fans are going to fucking go for
- 38:18Speaker 2: Dak's head. Whenever it was coming down to the wire,
- 38:21Speaker 2: I thought it's going to end in a tie. That's
- 38:24Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Oh, my gosh.
- 38:26Speaker 1: That would have been the worst case scenario.
- 38:28Speaker 2: It almost did there for a little bit. It looked
- 38:30Speaker 2: like it was going to end up being a tie.
- 38:32Speaker 2: That would have been brutal. Man, Nico Collins shows, you know,
- 38:37Speaker 2: if he's healthy, he's able to keep C.J. Stroud up
- 38:40Speaker 2: and light up the Cowboys' defense.
- 38:43Speaker 1: You know, C.J.
- 38:44Speaker 2: Stroud's throwing for over 350 yards, but the real topic
- 38:47Speaker 2: of the day, as everyone knows, is Sedarius Lamb. going
- 38:52Speaker 2: absolutely fucking nuclear. 17 catches on, what was it, like 20,
- 38:57Speaker 2: 22 targets? 20 targets, yeah. Yeah, 20 targets, 190 yards,
- 39:02Speaker 2: a touchdown. Just absolutely insane. And then on top of that,
- 39:05Speaker 2: George Pickens, he had three targets, two catches, 75 yards.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Something like, you know, GP3 going absolutely nuclear. At the
- 39:14Speaker 2: first quarter of this game, Jocelyn was texting me because
- 39:18Speaker 2: I was on the road, and she's like, Oh, I
- 39:19Speaker 2: can't get the game to turn on. And I was like,
- 39:22Speaker 2: don't worry. You don't want to watch. Like it looked.
- 39:25Speaker 2: This first quarter. scary i was like it what was
- 39:27Speaker 2: it like 10 to like 10 to 3 or 10
- 39:30Speaker 2: to 0.
- 39:30Speaker 1: But it looked bad it looked really bad.
- 39:33Speaker 2: In the first quarter yeah and then all of a
- 39:36Speaker 2: sudden red zone cowboys back on red zone again cowboys
- 39:41Speaker 2: are back cowboys are back cowboys are back and it
- 39:43Speaker 2: ended up becoming a shootout and that's what the cowboys
- 39:45Speaker 2: need And they just absolutely dotted up this Texans defense. Now,
- 39:49Speaker 2: does that have more to say with this Cowboys offense?
- 39:53Speaker 2: Or does that have more to say with what's going
- 39:54Speaker 2: on with the Texans getting dotted up week over week
- 39:57Speaker 2: over week with this defense? And, you know, Will Anderson
- 40:00Speaker 2: balled out. I mean, they show you why these guys
- 40:03Speaker 2: are being highly paid. I know Fonzo, he'll probably talk
- 40:06Speaker 2: about it a little bit more. But, you know, there's
- 40:08Speaker 2: a reason why, you know, one of the highest paid
- 40:11Speaker 2: offensive and defensive guys played in this game. And, I mean,
- 40:14Speaker 2: they showed you why they are some of the highest-paid
- 40:16Speaker 2: players in the NFL. Cowboys got the win whenever they
- 40:20Speaker 2: needed to. Their offense looked absolutely amazing. Their defense did
- 40:24Speaker 2: get dotted up. But, I mean, they ended up coming
- 40:27Speaker 2: away with the win anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Go ahead, Ry.
- 40:33Speaker 3: Yeah, this was such a great game. It's so funny
- 40:36Speaker 3: to me how, like, as a fan, I see improvements
- 40:41Speaker 3: to our defense and we're still getting– like, 30 points
- 40:44Speaker 3: dropped on us. It pisses me off so bad. Like,
- 40:46Speaker 3: so bad. Like, I know our defense is improving, but
- 40:51Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we're still getting 30-plus
- 40:53Speaker 3: points dropped on us, and it makes me so mad.
- 40:56Speaker 3: And I, like, see the, like, good singular performances. I
- 40:59Speaker 3: wanted to point out Malik Hooker. He actually had a
- 41:01Speaker 3: really good game today, or Sunday, I felt like. He had, um,
- 41:06Speaker 3: he had seven tackles, uh, and he had a, like,
- 41:11Speaker 3: really crucial, uh, pass breakups. I don't know if you know, remember,
- 41:15Speaker 3: it was like a 20, 30-yard pass, and I think
- 41:18Speaker 3: it was to Hutchinson, and he just absolutely lays out
- 41:22Speaker 3: and breaks it up, and I feel like that was
- 41:24Speaker 3: pretty big for us. I feel like Caleb Downs was
- 41:27Speaker 3: pretty good. Jay Sean Barham doing what he's done. Quinn
- 41:31Speaker 3: and William showing up, you know, getting a sack. I think, like,
- 41:37Speaker 3: I see what we're doing. Like, I see the improvements.
- 41:41Speaker 3: It just, it's so, like, I don't know. But I'm
- 41:44Speaker 3: not one of those fans who's like, oh, we won
- 41:47Speaker 3: and I'm still mad. Like, no, I don't care. We
- 41:49Speaker 3: won at the end of the day. But that's just
- 41:54Speaker 3: kind of silly to me how we're still giving up.
- 41:56Speaker 3: That just shows how great this offense is, how Brecken said,
- 41:59Speaker 3: is it how bad the Texans' defense has become or
- 42:02Speaker 3: how good the offense is? And it's how good this
- 42:04Speaker 3: offense has become. Whenever you have two top five wide
- 42:08Speaker 3: receivers in your room, like– They're just, it's unguardable. On
- 42:14Speaker 3: the play where CeeDee Lamb was wide open at the
- 42:16Speaker 3: end of the game, they pan over and George Pickens
- 42:20Speaker 3: is getting double covered at the top of his route.
- 42:24Speaker 3: And like 10 or 15 yards under that is CeeDee
- 42:29Speaker 3: Lamb and he's wide open. And like, how are you
- 42:31Speaker 3: going to leave CeeDee Lamb open? And it's making me
- 42:34Speaker 3: so mad. I'm seeing all these tweets and all this
- 42:36Speaker 3: stuff on Instagram. Like, when is CeeDee Lamb going to enter?
- 42:39Speaker 3: When are we going to put CeeDee Lamb into these
- 42:41Speaker 3: talks with Justin Jefferson, JSN, and Jamar.
- 42:45Speaker 1: No, bro.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 42:47Speaker 1: He's been there.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Bro, he almost won the Triple Crown in 2023. 24,
- 42:54Speaker 3: Dak got hurt. 25, he literally missed like two or
- 43:00Speaker 3: three games and then was overshadowed by George Pickens. So
- 43:04Speaker 3: I just don't understand the sentiment of when is CeeDee
- 43:06Speaker 3: Lamb going to get there.
- 43:07Speaker 1: And still had 1,200 yards, by the way.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Like, what are we doing? Exactly. I don't know, makes
- 43:13Speaker 3: me so mad that this is happening where people are
- 43:17Speaker 3: underrating CeeDee Lamb. He's one of the best. He leads
- 43:21Speaker 3: the league in receptions and yards now. I know people
- 43:24Speaker 3: are going to be like, well, it was a big
- 43:26Speaker 3: blow-up game. Well, that's just how it goes.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Just Josh. That was just Josh.
- 43:30Speaker 2: Is that true? Does he actually lead in both of those?
- 43:33Speaker 3: Wait, what? Yeah.
- 43:34Speaker 2: He leads the league in both of those stats?
- 43:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:37Speaker 3: He has 34 receptions and like four something yards.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Oh, but he's not in the Offensive Player of the
- 43:43Speaker 1: Year conversation, according to Josh. I think he is, for sure.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Even though Jason had three touchdowns. He only had one
- 43:52Speaker 1: bad game. Other than that, he's had 110 or more.
- 43:54Speaker 1: He's had 117, 150, and then another one. Yeah, he
- 43:56Speaker 1: had 117, 141, and then 189. This offense is just insane.
- 43:58Speaker 1: We're seeing the brilliance of.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Dak at work on... on that fourth down where he
- 44:10Speaker 3: had to convert, just rifles it to Jake Ferguson under
- 44:15Speaker 3: all the pressure in the world, and he still gets
- 44:17Speaker 3: it there. And I will say, Will Anderson, he looks amazing.
- 44:21Speaker 3: He looks so good. He was, I believe, mine and
- 44:24Speaker 3: Breckin's pick for Defensive Player of the Year. Dude, he
- 44:28Speaker 3: looks amazing. And it's just a shame that the Texans
- 44:33Speaker 3: fall to 0-4. And Nico Collins being on that field,
- 44:37Speaker 3: it shows that he is offense. Without him, they're nothing.
- 44:41Speaker 3: He's literally.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Yeah, Olave's almost there.
- 44:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:44Speaker 2: He's five yards off. Olave's, oh, it's seven. But yeah,
- 44:49Speaker 2: seven yards off. Seven yards off, but he has.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Brecken, you know what I told Marcos today when we
- 44:56Speaker 1: were watching the game? Because how Olave caught that ball.
- 44:59Speaker 1: I'm like, he doesn't need a catch no more so
- 45:01Speaker 1: I can start this seedy propaganda on the pod tonight.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Because I did it just for that. Just for that.
- 45:10Speaker 2: So he's two catches and seven yards behind. But he's
- 45:14Speaker 2: also three touchdowns behind. Like, Olave doesn't get touchdowns. It's
- 45:17Speaker 2: like he's a worship.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Yeah, Olave doesn't get in the end zone.
- 45:19Speaker 2: He's never been a touchdown. No, but like how many
- 45:22Speaker 2: times he goes down at the one-yard line or the
- 45:24Speaker 2: three-yard line, it's genuinely insane. He's so fast. that a
- 45:30Speaker 2: safety will just be like, fuck it, I'll go run
- 45:33Speaker 2: to the one-yard line just to make sure he doesn't score.
- 45:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, for this game, I
- 45:41Speaker 3: just think the Texans, whenever you have Nico Collins on
- 45:45Speaker 3: the field, he's going to dominate. When he wasn't there,
- 45:48Speaker 3: we saw what happened. They literally did nothing. They were
- 45:51Speaker 3: a shell of themselves. And that performance Monty had week
- 45:57Speaker 3: one was such a fluke. He hasn't got anywhere near
- 46:00Speaker 3: that now. And, yeah, I just think.
- 46:03Speaker 2: That this offense looks– Even against the Cowboys, like– Yeah.
- 46:07Speaker 1: Well, the Cowboys, they've been known. I mean, last week
- 46:10Speaker 1: we shut down Derrick Henry. He only had– Yeah, you're right.
- 46:13Speaker 2: You're right. You're right.
- 46:14Speaker 3: My bad. Yeah, I forgot.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we can actually stop the run.
- 46:16Speaker 1: We can actually stop the run.
- 46:17Speaker 3: And I want to point out what Joey Porter did
- 46:20Speaker 3: on that, on the side of the ball when he
- 46:22Speaker 3: was in. He didn't allow anything. He didn't allow anything
- 46:26Speaker 3: caught on him. Deron Bland– fries.
- 46:29Speaker 6: He let everything be caught on him he even had
- 46:33Speaker 6: that one who was it it wasn't me i was
- 46:36Speaker 6: it jalen no or hutchinson they made a diving catch
- 46:40Speaker 6: it was amazing and deron bland just had to be
- 46:43Speaker 6: there like of course i had to be deron bland
- 46:45Speaker 6: like dude he was getting cooked.
- 46:48Speaker 3: All day long i were like like bro it was
- 46:52Speaker 3: insane but other than that um rashaun gary i think
- 46:56Speaker 3: he looked really shit uh during this game shows why
- 47:00Speaker 3: we traded for him he's not going to be like
- 47:02Speaker 3: this all world defensive edge but he'll get the job
- 47:06Speaker 3: done and yeah I think this is a pretty good
- 47:08Speaker 3: game and it is the gaudy greatest offense there is
- 47:13Speaker 3: and people are going to point to George Pickens starting
- 47:16Speaker 3: slow and stuff like that but it's just going to
- 47:17Speaker 3: ramp up Dak's going to be in MVP talks and
- 47:21Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sound delusional or anything but yeah
- 47:24Speaker 3: with the addition of Joey Porter I think I think
- 47:27Speaker 3: we can start getting places.
- 47:30Speaker 1: So i just i just want to say it was
- 47:33Speaker 1: last wednesday when we were recording the nba pod we
- 47:36Speaker 1: found out joey porter he was traded to the cowboys
- 47:39Speaker 1: and so it was for next year's second round pick
- 47:42Speaker 1: in a six round pick this year and 19 snaps
- 47:45Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be playing thursday night against the
- 47:48Speaker 1: bucks 19 snaps zero targets zero catches so that just
- 47:52Speaker 1: shows whenever Whenever it came down to crucial situations, he
- 47:55Speaker 1: lined up on Nico Collins. And that's exactly what we need.
- 47:58Speaker 1: And also, I'm not saying Deron Bland always going to
- 48:01Speaker 1: be back to being a great cornerback. But he's much
- 48:03Speaker 1: suited to being in the slot. I don't think you're
- 48:06Speaker 1: going to put him in the slot. And that's where
- 48:08Speaker 1: he has the pigs. Is Joey playing in the slot
- 48:11Speaker 1: or is he a player? No, I'm talking about Deron Bland.
- 48:13Speaker 3: Oh, he's going to go to the slot.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he'll go to the slot, Deron Bland. Over Joey?
- 48:19Speaker 2: That's where Joey Porter plays, no?
- 48:21Speaker 1: No, he's going to be the outside guy.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Joey's just going to follow the one.
- 48:24Speaker 1: He's going to be the outside guy. Yeah, no, for sure.
- 48:27Speaker 1: Because CPR said he's going to be man only and
- 48:32Speaker 1: everybody else match coverage. Yeah, everybody else is match covered.
- 48:37Speaker 1: So Deron Bland, whenever he had his best year, the
- 48:39Speaker 1: whole six things, That's whenever he was in the slot.
- 48:42Speaker 1: And that's just, especially with the slot with Deron Bland
- 48:45Speaker 1: being a lot more aggressive, that's where it's high risk,
- 48:48Speaker 1: high reward. On the outside, you can't do that. That's
- 48:51Speaker 1: going to just get you killed. Honestly, that's Jordan Lewis.
- 48:55Speaker 1: He was something great. He had a pick this week. Yeah,
- 48:59Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, he did have a pick. But I want
- 49:01Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more how you were saying
- 49:03Speaker 1: about Gaudi, the greatest offensive So in this first half,
- 49:09Speaker 1: this Texas defense looked back to normal. And honestly, I
- 49:12Speaker 1: did say this. I don't know if I said it
- 49:15Speaker 1: in the group chat or if I said it to
- 49:17Speaker 1: my dad, but Dak, he looked really good. in his
- 49:20Speaker 1: first half. The first half, the offensive line, they were
- 49:24Speaker 1: getting manhandled and he was very trigger shy. Like he
- 49:27Speaker 1: wasn't pulling the trigger, not able to establish a run.
- 49:29Speaker 1: And honestly, those 16 points in the first half, that
- 49:33Speaker 1: was a block field goal. And then the 65 yard
- 49:35Speaker 1: field goal, which yes, I know it's Brandon Aubrey, but
- 49:38Speaker 1: at that time period, Your defense was playing decent after
- 49:41Speaker 1: the first two drives. They settled in. And you put
- 49:44Speaker 1: them in two bad spots. And they only gave up
- 49:46Speaker 1: field goals, which that's improvement from the defense. Again, they
- 49:50Speaker 1: just need to be average. And that's all they need
- 49:53Speaker 1: to be. And in the second half, they got two
- 49:56Speaker 1: crucial stops. And sometimes that's just what you need with Gotti.
- 50:00Speaker 1: And that's what I want to get into. So out
- 50:04Speaker 1: of every single team in modern history, Right now, the Cowboys,
- 50:09Speaker 1: they rank fifth as far as points per drive. And
- 50:13Speaker 1: 36 drives averaging 3.39 points per drive. The insanity of
- 50:20Speaker 1: averaging a field goal every single drive. A team gets
- 50:25Speaker 1: eight drives, maybe nine to ten if they're scoring very quickly.
- 50:31Speaker 1: That is absurd levels. Like, they... they are outperforming the
- 50:36Speaker 1: 2018 Kansas City Chiefs right now. And they're on par
- 50:40Speaker 1: with the 07 Patriots and the 2020 Packers where Aaron
- 50:43Speaker 1: Rodgers had like 48 touchdowns and two interceptions, something along
- 50:47Speaker 1: those lines. The levels of insanity, not to mention, we
- 50:51Speaker 1: don't even have this run game going. And one thing
- 50:53Speaker 1: I'm going to say with this Texans team, I'm sorry,
- 50:57Speaker 1: I know your defense is built on we're going to
- 51:00Speaker 1: play man-to-man, we're going to be real physical with Derek
- 51:02Speaker 1: Stingley and Kamari Lassiter. You got to put your pride aside.
- 51:06Speaker 1: If you see CeeDee Lamb cooking Kamari Lassiter, you cannot
- 51:11Speaker 1: do that. And I get they were doubling George Pickens,
- 51:14Speaker 1: but sometimes what you have to do is you have
- 51:16Speaker 1: to double the hot hand. You have to do it.
- 51:19Speaker 1: If George Pickens, yes, he can beat you, but you
- 51:22Speaker 1: see what CeeDee Lamb is doing, especially on that last
- 51:25Speaker 1: drive right there. You cannot let him do that. In
- 51:29Speaker 1: the second half, 11 catches, 143 yards. That is a
- 51:34Speaker 1: stat line for a great game for any player in
- 51:38Speaker 1: an entire game. You let him do that in the
- 51:39Speaker 1: second half. And I'm not saying this Texans defense is
- 51:44Speaker 1: as good as they were last year, but they still
- 51:46Speaker 1: do have the pieces. And I think two things can
- 51:50Speaker 1: be true. The Texans defense isn't the same, but this
- 51:53Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys offense is just that good where Dak Prescott,
- 51:57Speaker 1: he was just on a heater in the second half.
- 51:59Speaker 1: So I feel like it's just a little bit of both.
- 52:03Speaker 1: So Also, another thing I feel like I know you
- 52:07Speaker 1: kind of brushed onto it.
- 52:08Speaker 2: C.J.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Stroud's not the problem right now. C.J. Stroud is far
- 52:12Speaker 1: from the problem.
- 52:14Speaker 3: C.J.
- 52:14Speaker 1: Stroud, what you needed him to do was be a
- 52:16Speaker 1: good quarterback, rely on your run game, and play good defense.
- 52:20Speaker 1: They have not done that the entire time. Week one
- 52:23Speaker 1: versus Buffalo, let them down a game one and drive.
- 52:26Speaker 1: Didn't score. Week two, I can't remember exactly, but week
- 52:30Speaker 1: three against the Colts, let them down a game one
- 52:31Speaker 1: and drive. Week four against the Cowboys led them to
- 52:35Speaker 1: a game-winning drive. Your defense, your backbone, where you're supposed
- 52:38Speaker 1: to be your strongest suit, if they get a stop,
- 52:40Speaker 1: you're 3-1 here. And there's no talks about the Texans, oh,
- 52:45Speaker 1: the sky is falling. But now it's like it sucks
- 52:49Speaker 1: for C.J. Stroud because it's a contract year. And just
- 52:52Speaker 1: how the team is performing, and I feel like records
- 52:56Speaker 1: affect the contracts of quarterbacks. I don't know.
- 53:01Speaker 2: I think he's playing so good. He's genuinely playing really good.
- 53:08Speaker 2: I don't think he goes anywhere else. Dude, what if
- 53:13Speaker 2: he does? I don't think he does go anywhere else.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Every quarterback has the potential of going.
- 53:21Speaker 1: I just want the potential, man.
- 53:23Speaker 2: Give KOC another one.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Give KOC another experience, man.
- 53:29Speaker 2: Because in reality, I don't think the Texans really let
- 53:32Speaker 2: him walk. I think that they'll end up paying him. But, like,
- 53:35Speaker 2: it's giving me, like... Like, maybe, like, you would say, like, Baker,
- 53:39Speaker 2: where it's, like... Like, the team's record's not great, but, like,
- 53:43Speaker 2: you know that he's good. Like, you know... Not quite
- 53:47Speaker 2: to the level of, like, where Burrow is, where it's, like,
- 53:49Speaker 2: the record's bad, but you know that he's good. But, like, C.J.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Stroud's playing at, like, a Baker level right now, to
- 53:56Speaker 2: be honest.
- 53:57Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think.
- 53:58Speaker 1: He's playing at a top 15 level right now. Not,
- 54:02Speaker 1: not great, but just good enough where they should be
- 54:05Speaker 1: getting the job done. Yeah. This should be more than enough.
- 54:09Speaker 2: Well, he is in the AFC, but like the way
- 54:11Speaker 2: that that team's built is not like any, like the
- 54:14Speaker 2: team's built like an NFC team.
- 54:16Speaker 1: And they are.
- 54:17Speaker 2: And yeah. And like in the AFC, it's, it's typically
- 54:22Speaker 2: the opposite with like you wanting to have like the
- 54:24Speaker 2: big time quarterback. So like, You'd figure with being built
- 54:27Speaker 2: like an NFC team with this dominant defense and mediocre
- 54:32Speaker 2: quarterback play that they would be able to kind of
- 54:35Speaker 2: stand out and maybe dominate the division. But it's almost
- 54:38Speaker 2: like the exact opposite, bro. It's almost like having a
- 54:42Speaker 2: good quarterback matters.
- 54:44Speaker 3: How Tyler Guyton went insane. Yes.
- 54:48Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
- 54:49Speaker 3: I don't think he allowed a single pressure.
- 54:51Speaker 1: Well, he had... It was 45 total snaps against Daniel
- 54:55Speaker 1: Hunter and Will Anderson. He only had three total pressures.
- 54:58Speaker 2: The rookie?
- 54:59Speaker 1: No. Is he a rookie? No, left tackle. No, you're three.
- 55:03Speaker 1: You're three, Tyler Guyton.
- 55:04Speaker 3: This is without, he's from OU. This is without Tyler
- 55:08Speaker 3: Smith as well, whose practice window just got opened up. Yeah.
- 55:12Speaker 3: And I just think all that pressure generated was because
- 55:17Speaker 3: we don't have our full O-line. And with The great
- 55:21Speaker 3: wall of Tyler being back, I think this is just
- 55:23Speaker 3: going to be so great.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Dude, all the Tylers are dominant. I can see Tyler
- 55:29Speaker 1: Beattish making a pro bowl.
- 55:31Speaker 2: You guys should sign Tyler Beattish.
- 55:34Speaker 1: Well, we did have him. We did have Tyler Beattish.
- 55:37Speaker 1: He was our center.
- 55:38Speaker 3: We did have Tyler Beattish, yeah.
- 55:40Speaker 2: That's funny.
- 55:42Speaker 3: I think Cooper Beattish is playing really well. Tyler Guyton.
- 55:46Speaker 3: I think our only.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. Oh, my gosh. Dude, I genuinely hate this guy.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Is he still going to be a starter, though, whenever
- 55:55Speaker 2: Smith comes back?
- 55:57Speaker 3: Who? Yes.
- 55:58Speaker 2: Steele? He's playing guard?
- 56:01Speaker 1: He's a left guard, yeah. Why did I.
- 56:04Speaker 2: Think he was playing tackle for y'all?
- 56:06Speaker 1: He was playing tackle because Guyton got hurt last year.
- 56:09Speaker 3: Yeah, they flipped. Oh, okay.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Yeah, Guyton, he got hurt last year. Then he was
- 56:14Speaker 1: at guard. As you can tell, I don't watch online play.
- 56:18Speaker 1: That's a great point. Tyler Guyton, he had an amazing day,
- 56:22Speaker 1: especially against... You're not going to see a better... You're
- 56:25Speaker 1: not going to see a better duo of pass rushers
- 56:26Speaker 1: with Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson. So he.
- 56:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really pleased with how he played. TJ
- 56:33Speaker 3: Bass wasn't playing bad either. I feel like that's where
- 56:35Speaker 3: the pressure was coming in. But Tyler Smith is coming back, so... Yeah.
- 56:41Speaker 3: And then Tyler Booker, that dude's just a dog. He
- 56:43Speaker 3: wants to see the fear in their.
- 56:46Speaker 1: He wants to see the fear in their eyes. I
- 56:47Speaker 1: want to see the joy. Oh, the joy of football
- 56:49Speaker 1: in their eyes. No, but all right. These next three
- 56:55Speaker 1: games right here, I guess we'll kind of brief through
- 56:57Speaker 1: them quickly so we can get to the debate.
- 56:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Okay.
- 57:00Speaker 2: Patriots-Bills.
- 57:01Speaker 1: Drake may bounce back game right here.
- 57:03Speaker 3: Shout out the schedule.
- 57:04Speaker 1: Up to the Buffalo Bills. The schedule.
- 57:07Speaker 3: I was not expecting that at all.
- 57:09Speaker 2: I was.
- 57:10Speaker 3: It makes me kind of.
- 57:13Speaker 1: He did pick the Patriots. Can I say something?
- 57:17Speaker 3: I'm excited about A.J. Brown now.
- 57:21Speaker 2: My thing was, my thought process going into it was like,
- 57:26Speaker 2: the Patriots are too good of a team and then
- 57:30Speaker 2: too disciplined of a team to fall to, they would
- 57:34Speaker 2: have been 2-2, or are they 2-2?
- 57:36Speaker 1: They're 2-2 now, they would have been 1-3.
- 57:39Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have been 1-3, and I was like,
- 57:41Speaker 2: that doesn't, And then, plus, it's a division rivalry, so
- 57:45Speaker 2: it's like, eh, it could go either way. And then
- 57:47Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I mean, I don't know if we'll talk
- 57:50Speaker 2: about it later, but, man, it seems like he's just not, like,
- 57:55Speaker 2: in my opinion, at the beginning of this year, he's
- 57:56Speaker 2: not playing at an MVP level. He's playing good, and
- 57:59Speaker 2: he's still doing Josh Allen things. But, like, his only
- 58:02Speaker 2: good game are against, it was the Jets was the other, wait,
- 58:06Speaker 2: did he play the Jets already? Who did they play, like.
- 58:09Speaker 1: Week two or three? Week one, it was week one.
- 58:11Speaker 1: It was week one and then week two versus the Lions.
- 58:14Speaker 1: That's where he– Yeah, so he's only– Week two. Yeah,
- 58:18Speaker 1: Texans and Lions, yeah.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like Texans shit, bro. Like are they
- 58:22Speaker 2: who we thought they were? Like they've been getting absolutely
- 58:25Speaker 2: chopped up. Yeah, it's true. Chargers, are they who we
- 58:27Speaker 2: thought they were? And then Lions. Yeah, exactly.
- 58:32Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say about– I saw
- 58:36Speaker 3: a post and it said like– Josh Allen is who
- 58:41Speaker 3: we thought Lamar was and it was like and it
- 58:44Speaker 3: was like he had I think it was his first
- 58:47Speaker 3: two games he had like 10 game or 10 carries
- 58:49Speaker 3: each game it's like dang it's.
- 58:51Speaker 1: A lot no honestly Josh Allen I I saw something
- 58:57Speaker 1: I don't know who said it I'm not gonna take
- 58:58Speaker 1: this credit for this take but um there was somebody
- 59:02Speaker 1: that said maybe it's better off that Josh Allen has
- 59:05Speaker 1: a defensive coach. No, I know. I really don't know
- 59:09Speaker 1: because I've been scrolling through Twitter. He said something like
- 59:14Speaker 1: maybe he needs a defensive coach or not a young
- 59:20Speaker 1: head coach to actually put the guardrails on him, to
- 59:23Speaker 1: actually have him control because he plays– When Josh Allen
- 59:26Speaker 1: plays wild ball, like, you see exactly what happens. They
- 59:29Speaker 1: lose games that they shouldn't. Like, they lost to the Patriots,
- 59:32Speaker 1: I think, in this exact same moment. Yeah, week four. Yeah,
- 59:35Speaker 1: because they were one and two.
- 59:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 59:37Speaker 1: And then against the Chargers where they had five turnovers.
- 59:40Speaker 1: Where they had five turnovers last time. Like you were saying. So,
- 59:45Speaker 1: I just think that maybe having.
- 59:47Speaker 2: Elevated players making elevated plays, bro.
- 59:50Speaker 1: Just like a young head coach... It's just with Josh Allen,
- 59:55Speaker 1: maybe it was good the first two weeks. But the
- 59:57Speaker 1: team doesn't look bad, though. No, they don't look bad.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: No, they don't.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: With Josh Allen, like, plays hero ball, too much hero ball.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: That's when he becomes reckless.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: That's when James Cook looks so efficient.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: He becomes Russell Westbrook.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: He's a Russell Westbrook. I was going to say the
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Titans' white quarterback, Levis, Will Levis. He becomes Will Levis. No,
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: he becomes Will Levis. The behind-the-back, like, throw– I know
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: people are like, oh my gosh, he turned that into
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: an incomplete pass. That's so stupid. Why did he do that?
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: There was such a high chance of that going bad. Yes,
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: it didn't go bad, but it's like, are you shitting me?
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: You're throwing it behind the back.
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: He did put that in the Will Levis clips for sure.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You guys are putting that up. See, that's
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: what I'm... You're putting like the chud filter on him
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: with the Italian sub subway worker line. Like audio in
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: the background, bro. Like, come on, dude. And then Drake May,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about it, but he
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: had two turnovers and neither of them were like really
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: on him. Like, yes, they were turnovers, but like one,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: like he got absolutely fucking drilled in the back paws.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: And then the other one. was Romeo Dobbs just absolutely
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: throwing an all-youp looking like Carmelo, just throwing the hoop up.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: Out of all the guys, Carmelo. Shout out Carmelo.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anybody else that's known for throwing
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: a hoop.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: You could have just said Mello. You got the Mello
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: part right.
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: You meant LaMelo, I think.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: You said Carmelo.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: Guys, he meant Mello.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: I don't watch basketball that much.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: You don't really know basketball, guys.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: No, no, no. He's our basketball expert. Yeah, he's our
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: basketball expert.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Dude, I might be a Timberwolves fan. I know whenever
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: I was debating, we talked about it on the podcast.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: What were my teams?
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: It was like the— Wolves, Spurs, Mavs.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: And the Pacers, right?
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: It was the Pacers, too, yeah.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: Yeah, but with Anthony Edwards and LaMelo going over there,
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: I was like, I kind of like them. I'm still
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: a Mavs fan.
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: No.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: It's not too late. I already bought a jersey.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: It's not too late.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: I already bought a jersey.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: But I love the way Anthony Edwards plays. I love
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook. What jersey did you buy? Flag.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: Super flag?
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: Salute the flag.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Salute the flag.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: Shout out Breck, bro. And then Luka got traded.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I was too, and then Luka got traded.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: It's true.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: No, but all right, let's go to this game right
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: here where the Eagles were up 20-10 at half. Then
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: 14 points from the Rams in the fourth quarter. Where
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts only had 10 passing yards on the second half.
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: Dude, this is like the third instance. This is like
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: the third time this has happened. And I genuinely... He
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: gets so mad whenever people say, like, Damien, he's always like,
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: he's a good quarterback.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: He's debatable top ten. He's better than Sam Darnold. The
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: accountant does it again, dude.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: Did you see how Darius Cooper, he had to rip it.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: From the defense. Those were two lucky touchdowns.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Dude, you know what Darius Cooper looked like? He looked
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: like an absolute dog at D.B., Picking the ball off.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: He didn't look like the receiver. He looked like a D.
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: He had it in his hand, and he ripped it.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: And he just, like, ripped up.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: Yes, bro.
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: Like, he didn't, like, actually rip it.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: And that's an elevated guy making elevated plays. Let me
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: tell you.
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: I saw that, and then I saw, like, a Patriots,
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: I guess it was the radio station, and they had
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: Mike Rabel on the show with them, and they're like,
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: what do you think about what C.J. Gardner Johnson said?
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: He was like, Eight teams in six years. I bet
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: he would know or something like that. Crazy. Or like
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: six teams in eight years, something like that. Nah, dude.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: I respect what CJ was saying. Everyone's hating on CJ Garner-Johnson.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Maybe I'm biased because he played for the Saints. But nah, bro.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: You know Etting Chisholm, bro. Yeah.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: And he was never a practice squad player, by the way.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a dog, bro.
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: That was such a good snag.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: He's been on the 53.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: That shit stuck to his head. Whenever I seen it,
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: I was like, ooh. That's just something.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: You say whenever you get work. That's why CJ said
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: that because he got absolutely worked. He should have just
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: been like, yeah, that was a great catch.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: It wasn't even on him.
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: No it wasn't on him that's why i didn't hate
- 1:04:36Speaker 6: what he said because i was like he's.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: Just talking it was so random he's.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Just being real like i i respect it but he's
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: not elevated bro what about what oh we should talk
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: about the refs bro what about these refs getting suspended.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: Dude yeah you know that this was.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: The most penalties like throw like most penalties since like Dude,
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: most in the red zone? 2012 or something.
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: In what?
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. Just in general.
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: In one week? Like, for week four of this season,
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: it's been the most penalties... I'm trying to find the stats. since, like,
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: 2012 or something like that.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: I saw. Okay, I found it.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: In a NFL week.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: I found it. Okay. I've seen it at Trey McBride. Yeah.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: It's kind of soft.
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: Like, why are you going.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: To find him? Oh, this is through four weeks.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: You're saying it's soft?
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: Most flags in over a decade through four weeks, it says...
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: most red zone penalties per game by offenses in history,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: most penalties on third and fourth down in second half
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: games of history, and 17 touchdowns nullified by penalty.
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: I just think they're trying to overcorrect themselves.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: And to put that in perspective, there was five only
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: in 2025, and there was four in 2024. There's already
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: been 17 through four weeks.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: 17 what?
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: Touchdowns nullified.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Yeah. And so many of them are ticky-tacky. So many
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: of them are ticky-tack.
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: They don't want to be criticized.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: Even today, the Saints got bailed out on a P.I.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: call on third or fourth down. And it was like, bro,
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: come on. Was there a jersey tug? Yeah, a little bit.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: But they were both playing through. Yeah, with Bryce Lance. Yeah,
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: Bryce Lance. And then, well, that was just, like, today. But, like, throughout, like,
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: this NFL season.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: The Miami and the Vikings one where the main ref
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: was too close and got pushed over, ejected him.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: And then the other ref saying, F you to Trey McBride.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: That was insane.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: That was insane.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: I think that's soft. Like, they were arguing. Well, no,
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: you shouldn't say.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: That to someone else. Okay, hear me out. I don't
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: mind the refs doing that because I'm masculine. I'm a man.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: I don't mind the refs saying, hey, you know, fuck you,
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: fuck you. I don't mind that. But also, don't fine
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: or give the players flags if you get the same energy.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: That shouldn't be... Like, you're on the football field. You're
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: on the football field. This is a man's sport. This
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: is a man's game.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: They're hyped up.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: Let that shit fly.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: Emotions are high. Yeah.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: These guys are some of the most freak athletes with
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: some of the most highest... uh, testosterone levels. And, like,
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: if they, if they say, if they say, like, hey,
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: back the fuck up, they get a flag. I'm just,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Like, these guys, these guys are, like.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: That's so random, Brecken. Highest testosterone, by the way.
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: That does matter, bro.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: Like, genuinely, it makes you, like, more of an aggressive person.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Their job is to literally beat the shit.
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Bro, he's 6'5.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: Oh, bro, yeah.
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: No.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: Fuck, no.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Bro, he's soft as Charmin.
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: Um.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: Sweeter than grandma's cookies. Okay, Pillsbury Doughboy over there. No, uh... No, but, um... Yeah, man,
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: I think the game... Like, we're trying to, you know,
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: bring it to a broader audience, and I get that
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But it's, you know, whenever it's sports
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: like this with physical contact and stuff, you know, you
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: just gotta let some shit fly. Like, in the UFC,
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: you just gotta let some shit fly. You don't have
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: to agree with it, you know? But, um, you gotta...
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: You got to let– you know, it's a manly sport.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: It's an aggressive sport. And so, like, I don't mind
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: the ref cussing at Trey McBride, but the same energy
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: should be able to go the other way where a
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: player is able to talk shit. And then that same game,
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: what's-his-name got a flag. The coach got a flag for, like,
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: yelling at the ref.
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: I think it was in against that same– To be honest.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: Yeah. They just– It's just like this– this talk about
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: the refs, like in Europe, like for soccer, they genuinely
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: hate refs over there. Like, there's just one dude I
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: listen to and he's like, y'all know how much I
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: can't stand the refs.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: I hate referees.
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: Like, they genuinely hate referees over there. Like, they know
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: them by name and everything and they hate them. That's
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: what's going to happen over there.
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: And what I love is all the players that are
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: like ex-players that become commentators, all of them feel the
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: same way and they feel the same sentiment. Especially like
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: whenever J.J. Watt gets on.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Dude, any roughing the passer, J.J. Watt's like, bro, that's soft.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: That's soft, you know? And then, dude, I love it, bro.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: The refs are dictating so many games right now.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: And they're not calling shit. What bugs me so much
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: is they're calling shit that's tiki-tac, and then they're letting
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: other shit play that you're like, what are you talking about? Like,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: whenever Josh Allen threw that shit behind his back, that
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: was so... Dude, that was obviously intentional grounding. There was
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: literally nobody in the area. Is that even debatable, like,
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: if it's a pass or not? You know what I'm saying?
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: But then they're throwing flags on other shit that's super tiki-tac,
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: where Chop Robinson is laying the hit stick on... on Mahomes,
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: and they're.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: Throwing a flag for that. That wasn't a roughing the passer, yeah. Yeah,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: that wasn't a roughing the passer at all, yeah.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: It's just get it straight, man. Get it straight.
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: I do think some of those calls, though, like the
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: low calls, are important.
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: No.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: I think it is. No. You're not trying to injure
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: the quarterback's grip.
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: No.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: That one wasn't a roughing the passer because Chop Robinson,
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: he backed up. He even put his hands.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: He was like, he even put his hands like this.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: It's because the ref was like this. He was like this,
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: ready with his flag.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Did you see where, like, as soon as Chop beat
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: the block, the ref pulled that bitch out before he
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: even made contact with Mahomes?
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Bro, they do that every play, bro, because they don't
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: want to have to reach for their flag if there's
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: a flag. Oh.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: Dude.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure, that's what it is.
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: I just hate, I just hate conspiracies around sports.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: He watches film on the refs, man.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: People say it's rigged, bro.
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's rigged. I'm not saying that the
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: refs and the chiefs were paying the.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: Refs or anything like.
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: That. What I'm saying is that these refs see something
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: that's a potential penalty and they're like, fuck it, let's
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: throw it. It always tends to be one of those
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: ones where it's like, is it this way? Is it
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: that way? But because they incentivize you to throw the flag.
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: My issue with it is they incentivize you to throw
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: the flag because it's like, okay, now we can review it.
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: But if it's ticky-tack, if it's in the air, it
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: auto-goes to whatever the ruling on the field is. And
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: so that's why there's been so many penalties is because
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: it's like there's these 50-50, like is it P.I.? Is
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: it offensive-defensive P.I.? Who did CeeDee Lamb pull in and
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: they called it defensive P.I.? Oh, Nate Wiggins.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins last week.
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: Like something like that where it's like they throw the flag,
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: they go back and they look at it, and they're like, shit,
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: it's kind of like, and you just got to stick
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: with the ruling on the field when in reality they
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: should have just let that play out. And so I
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: don't know if that's necessarily the refs or just the
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: way that the system's built in the game where these
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: plays are being able to be reviewed now whenever you're
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: able to throw a flag. that it almost incentivizes you
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: to throw a flag, to make a call on the field,
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: whether or not it is correct or incorrect. You know
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's definitely getting out of hand. And like
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: you're saying, you could throw the flag and still say
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: there's no flag on the play. It might slow down
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: the game, of course, but it's correct calling. Like, if
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: it's that ticky-tacky. And I think I don't know.
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: I think they're just.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: Too scared to make that call, you know?
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Especially in the NBA and MLB, you could review stuff
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: that the umps, they did, and it could get overturned.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: And I feel like they need to implement that into
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: the NFL, where it's like, if a ref makes a
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: bad call, you could say, no, it's like, this is wrong.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: And it makes a ref stay on top of their
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: A game.
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: They don't do it with penalty calls, but they do
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: it with like, New York already does it with like,
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: ball positioning and stuff like that on the field where
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: if it's a fourth in one and it's like ah
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: and then they end up like giving it or pulling
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: it back or whatever so they already do it with
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: some stuff and i'm not saying i don't want everything
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: to be digitalized in new york upstairs and everything in
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: super slow mode and you know there's three pixels between
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: the football on the ground did it really touch the
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: ground i don't want it to go into that where
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: it's it's becoming like how soccer is with like var
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: and like all that kind of stuff you know what
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: i'm saying And I see a lot of people criticizing
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: that kind of stuff where, you know, it's like it
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: comes down to a robotic level. I don't want the
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: NFL to get like that. And I think that there's
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: so much disparity in this game that it, you know,
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: separates itself from the other ones because it is kind
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: of more on what ends up getting called on the field.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: And I like that. But there needs to be some
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: sort of like disciplines. Like these guys need to be
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: full-time refs. This should be a full-time job that pays good.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: You know, these guys are typically, you know.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: There's more than enough money in the NFL.
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And unless you're on the field.
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: I was just going to pose about that, actually. About, like,
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: how some of the refs. One of the refs is, like,
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: a district attorney.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: Yeah, they're, like, paralegals. They're, like, a GNC store manager, like,
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: during the offseason. And then during the season, you know,
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: they ref, like, every Sunday. Some of them, like, don't even, like,
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: some of them during the week still have their normal job.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: That's insane.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: I get that, but, dude, there's so much money in
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: the NFL now that, you know, it's a multi-billion dollar company.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: You guys can afford a $ 120, 000 a year salary to
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: these young bucks coming out of college and actually, like,
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: coaching them up to see the game in a certain way.
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: Bill and Josh.
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, I'll be out there fucking backpedaling.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: If I'm a ref, bro, if I'm a ref, bro,
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: Do not let me officiate the Cowboys, bro. Do not, bro.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: I'm going to be so bright.
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: I'm calling everything.
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: I don't know how much testosterone would be on the
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: field if these dudes... Bro.
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: Dude, there's already so much testosterone. If you put me
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: out there, man.
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: Shit, don't get wicked.
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: Do not let Brecken and I become refs, bro.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: That's so funny.
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: I'll be like that guy that was saying stuff to
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: Trey McBride. But yeah, no. Anyways, about this... Eagles and
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: Rams game. Eagles offense looks very shitty. We went on
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: a crazy... Just very quickly, Saquon Barkley has a hamstring injury.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's going to be out.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby, a core injury. So that means Jadon Blue,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Cowboys legend. And Will Shipley, yeah. Will Shipley and Jadon
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: Blue are going to be the waiver wire stashes of
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: the week, pretty much.
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on Will Shipley and BBB. I believe that.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: All right. Quickly, just a sentence or two about these
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: games right here. Chiefs and Raiders.
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: Raiders have their number. It's a joke.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: Broncos, Niners.
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: You want to say something else?
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: I would say Bo Nix's dog shit and Pat Sertan
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: injuries are a big deal. They had two injuries.
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: He avoided Achilles.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: Yeah, Riley Moss.
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: He avoided the Achilles. Riley Moss. He avoided Achilles, so
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: that's good.
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: That was good.
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: The Niners are real, bro. They always do this, though.
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: They're so good.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: Brock Purdy is an MVP candidate.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy that Shanahan doesn't have a coach of
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: the year?
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: No.
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: He doesn't have one. Does McVay? Yeah, McVay has one.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Yeah, McVay does. But he only has one, right? Doesn't
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: McVay only have one?
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: Yeah, McVay only has one. Okay, I have one for
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: the Broncos, one for the Niners. Broncos, 13 points in
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: all four first halves combined. And then Niners. Niners, every
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: time they start off 4-0, they've made the Super Bowl.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: So those are things to look out for right there.
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: Too bad they have the Cowboys in their conference.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, bro. All right, Panthers-Lions.
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: Panther, Bryce Young is him. And whenever... You feed Tet
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: the ball. This is what happens.
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: What does it say? Rod Wave. Thank you, Rod Wave.
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: Rod Wave saved my life.
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: Also, the Lions are done. They're fries.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Yeah, they're DB. Yeah, no, it's so.
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: Dude, losing to me, Roberson hurts. Dude, if I'm on
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: Lions DB. And Kirby Joseph out. Yeah, that's tough.
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: If I'm getting drafted and I get drafted to the Lions,
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: I'm a defensive back, I just know I'm about to
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: get hurt. Like, I just know I'm about to get hurt.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: I know, dude.
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: And it's like, they did draft some guys.
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: Who did they draft? Joseph.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: Jeff Okuda.
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: Hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't disrespect Jeff Okuda.
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: Oh, dude.
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: Why is this?
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: I was thinking about Jeff Okuda.
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about all the edits, bro.
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: Me too.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: Dude, Ohio State legend, bro. Oh my gosh, dude. Jeff Okuda, bro.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: So talented.
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: That was a man. CJ Henderson too. Now he kind
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: of revived his career with Atlanta.
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: A little bit.
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: He played good today.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: He was talking shit today.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: He revived his career. What was he, the ninth pick
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: in Jacksonville?
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: Jeff Okuda also went to the Falcons.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: He went fourth? Oh, Jeff Okuda did go to the Falcons.
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: That's funny. I think that's pretty much all of them.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: Right there. Now it's time to get to it. It's
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: time to get to the debate time. So I don't
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: know if there's any other prompts y'all want to add
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: or y'all just want to roll with these five.
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: Just roll with them. I like them.
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: Okay, so the five prompts.
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: Not the Raiders one, to be honest. I feel like
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: we've already talked about that. Yeah.
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: What is this doing?
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Okay, we'll do these four.
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: Why is it Drake London or Tet?
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: Huh?
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: That's the one Ryan wanted to do right there.
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: So the four prompts. So this is going to be
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: a debate where either a for or against. And the
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: four prompts are Drake, Linden, or Tett. Who's the MVP
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: right now? Pick between Dak, Bryce, and Purdy. Will the
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: Eagles offense find their stride best wide receiver this season?
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: So we're going to see which topic is first here.
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: Ryan, why are you smiling?
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: Will the Eagles offense find their stride?
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: I hope I don't have to argue yes for this one.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: Let me do this. I forgot to take it out.
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: Pause.
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: What's this one for?
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: Yes?
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for yes.
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: Let's see. Our Is Brecken or I going to be
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: arguing against you? It is going to be me.
- 1:20:16Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: Hey, while you yap, stop screen sharing so your audio
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: sounds better.
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just want to screen share while
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: we're debating. I'll just have.
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: Okay, I need to think why Eagles offense won't find
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: their stride. Do you want to put up the timer, Brick?
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: A minute timer?
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: How long?
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: One minute?
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: Yeah, just a minute. I don't need notes for this one.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: I feel great.
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: I need notes. You can go first.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm just ready to go at this point.
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: And that'll also give me counterpoints to here. Yeah.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: Start going, brother. I'll start the timer.
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: All right, ready?
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: Three, two, one. Okay. The Eagles offense, there's been so
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: many excuses over the years as far as, oh, the
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: coordinator this, oh, the coordinator that. Oh, they don't have
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: the right pieces.
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: Oh, A.J.
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: Brown has been a problem where he's demanding the ball.
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: The real problem here is Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts cannot
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. And now their biggest
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: weapon out of them all, Saquon Barkley, who it looks
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: like there's been a step down and also has been
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: hurt or is getting hurt. So who knows where it's
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: going to go from there. And let's not even mention
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: this offensive line has not been the same that it
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: was years prior. So I think, yes, even though they
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: have good number twos in Dontavian Wicks and maybe Makai
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: Lemon stepping up, I just think that Jalen Hurts, he
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: cannot throw the ball down the field. And at the
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: end of the day, you can only depend so much
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: on your star running back and what your running back
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: had to have one of the most historic seasons ever.
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts needs to find a way to throw the
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: ball in which he will not.
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: All right, I'm ready. All right, I'm ready.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: Let me know.
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: I've never argued so hard for the Eagles to be right.
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: Ready?
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, go. So the reason the Eagles will
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: hit their stride is because they're missing their all-pro guard,
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: one of the best guards to ever do it, Landon Dickerson.
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: So how are we going to come out and be like, well,
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: the Eagles aren't the best right now. Jalen Hurst can't
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: throw the ball. Well, obviously he can't throw when he's
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: under pressure. And they have Cam Juergens, who's their center,
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: moving to left guard. What are we doing here? I
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: think that Smitty is a really good number one for them.
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: They have Makai Lemon and Dontavion Wiggs, who I think
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: will be better for them. Saquon has had an off year,
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: but that's due to the line being bad. And I
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: believe in Vic Fangio and his defense. I think that
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: having Sean Mannion as a first-year play caller, he literally...
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: is like 30 years old or something. He's pretty young.
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: He still has to adjust. And I think Jalen Hurst
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: has never had the same play caller like five years straight.
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: Every year that he's had been in the season, a
- 1:23:41Speaker 3: new play caller. So how do you expect him to
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: be consistent when he can't even have consistent coaches?
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: Do I give my verdict already?
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: That's up to you or if you need to see another.
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: That's totally up to you, brother.
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: I think I'm going to give this one to Fonzo
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: pretty handily. And not just because of biasness or anything
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: like that. I just think that there was better points
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: that Ryan could have argued there.
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: I had a feeling you were going to bring up
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: the coordinator. And honestly, when I was midway talking about
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: the offensive line, I was like, shit, Landon Dickerson's out.
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: And so I already knew whenever you're like, I got
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: a point, I'm like, damn it. I'm like, all right.
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to, like, bring up, like, oh,
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: it was a rain game. It's been really bad weather.
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: Schmitty was out. You know, this offense, you know, looks
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: really young. They have an identity problem.
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: It was valid.
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: I don't know. When you have a minute, I just
- 1:24:41Speaker 3: think of, like, overall not really much.
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, but you did have, like, this
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: was a very hard disadvantage. I would have had to sell, like,
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: so badly. But you did make good points. You made
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: really good points. I don't care.
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: I hit the Eagles. I did as best as I
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: could without hitting.
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: Okay. This next one, I'll be the judge. It'll be Ryan.
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: It'll be Ryan and Breck right here.
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: What's this next one?
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: Drake and Ted.
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: Drake and Ted. Barely.
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: Who are you more, Drake or Tet?
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: I don't like either of these guys, man. They're both
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: in my division.
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: You like these guys, though.
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: I do. What's funny is I do like both of
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: these guys.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: This one is going to be for Drake London.
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: Land on Ryan. Yeah.
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: Okay, so Ryan, you are arguing for Drake London. Reckon
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: you're arguing for Tet. Let me set this up. Give
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: y'all a minute to prep. I'm going to stop this
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: for now. Oh, man, this is really tough right here,
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: in all honesty. Because I feel like these are two
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: guys where it's like, yes, of course, they're marquee players,
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: but also at the same time, It's not like unless
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: you're a Panthers fan, Falcons fan, or just like have
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: them in fantasy football. I don't even know. I feel
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: like this is very 50-50 right here. I could easily
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: be swayed. Y'all got 20 seconds. Hmm. Drake London or Ted?
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: That's a good question. Okay, five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: That is time.
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: I'll let Ryan go first.
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: He's a little bit more ready.
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go first. Yeah, Ryan, since you... All right, ready? Five, four, three, two, one, go.
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: Drake London is better than Ted McMillan at this point
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: in their careers because when you look at who Drake
- 1:27:25Speaker 3: London has had as quarterbacks, he started as Rickier, Marcus Mariota,
- 1:27:28Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter, Taylor Heineke, Kirk Cousins, who wasn't very good
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: at the time, and then Michael Penix. And I will
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: get to the point where Michael Penix, when he plays
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: with Michael Penix, who is not a very healthy quarterback,
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: he has 91 receptions, 102,086 yards, and 9 touchdowns in
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: just 14 games with Michael Penix. So when you give
- 1:27:49Speaker 3: him a competent quarterback, he produces. That is all pro
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: possibly numbers right there. And I think he could reach
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: higher levels. We've seen what he's doing this year. And
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: when you give him a competent quarterback, the sky's the
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: limit for this guy. How do you expect this dude
- 1:28:04Speaker 3: to produce whenever he's played with Taylor Heineke as his quarterback?
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: No disrespect, but he's had 866, 905, 1200, and 919. Time.
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was loud.
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: Holy crap. I blasted my ears. All right.
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: You ready?
- 1:28:24Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: You ready, Brecken?
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: Three, two, one, go.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: So like you were saying, you were listing off what
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: Drake Lennon was doing year over year over year with
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: his yards and stuff like that. I just think it's
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: really interesting that he didn't have it that way. season.
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: You know who does have a 1,000-yard season every single
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: season that they've played? Tedaro McMillan. And I know you
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: want to bring up the whole quarterback conversation. Bryce Young
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: was benched, all right? He was benched because he wasn't
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: playing good enough. And I understand. Oh, oh, he's been
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: playing better. You don't think that has to do with
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: Tedaro McMillan unlocking him? He's had others. first-round wide receivers
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: with Xavier Leguette and stuff like that. And what does
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: Tedaro McMillan do? He goes in there and unlocks his offense.
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: He takes Bryce Young from a mid-level to a benchable
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: quarterback to leading the NFL in passing yards this season,
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: just being an absolute dog. And then on top of that,
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: Tedaro McMillan, he's top five in the NFL right now
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: for receivings, touchdowns, everything like that. Coming out of Arizona,
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: everybody knew why he was a top five pick and OPOI.
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: Time oh this is oh y'all are both cooking with
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: i honestly love both of these right here or.
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: I guess it's op it's offensive rookie earlier to offensive
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: rookie of the year yeah not opoi but yeah honestly.
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: I don't i don't know if y'all are down for
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: another 30 seconds i'm still 50.
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: 50 right now 30 seconds.
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: Okay yeah okay ryan I'll have you start off right here.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: You're ready, right?
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: Five, four, two, one.
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: We're talking about Bryce Young being benched. He was benched
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: in 2024, and after he talked to Rod Wave, that
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: is when he started to go off, then proceeding to
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: give Dave Canales a wide receiver one, which then Bryce
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: Young helped Tech get to 1,000 yards. And we can say,
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: The Falcons or Drake London hasn't had a 1,000-yard season,
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: but he's also never had competent quarterback play. And when
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: you don't have competent quarterback play, you can't get the ball.
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: They physically can't throw the ball to you. That's mine.
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: The Rod Waypoint was valid.
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: That's funny.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: All right, Greg. Three, two, one.
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like for your guy, you're making a
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: lot of excuses, which I understand. If you guys want
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: to go about it on the physicals, they are very physical.
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: They're very similar in the way that they play, but
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: the way that I look at it, the only reason
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: why I give Tet that edge is because he hasn't disappointed.
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: Drake London's had disappointing seasons and disappointing records. Now, I
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: understand that the quarterback play hasn't been the best, but
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: at the end of the day, this guy hasn't disappointed
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: through his first two seasons in the NFL. If anything,
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: he's exceeded. Exceeded.
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: I love both these guys so much, bro.
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: I just want to say good points, but honestly, Brecken,
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: he persuaded me on that last part, but honestly, this
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: was like 50-50. I'm giving 55-45. Brecken, that was great
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: work right there. I feel like.
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: Ryan was making the only reason why I would legit
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: give the edge to Tett is because of the Offensive
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. And in reality, other than that,
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: I feel like they're almost the exact same player.
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: They are very similar.
- 1:32:01Speaker 3: I've tried to get Drake London on my team for
- 1:32:03Speaker 3: so long, but I wanted to keep Ted. And I
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: told Breckett, what did I say, like the student and
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: the master? I think they're the same person, literally. Okay.
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: For these last two. Oh, you want to be the judge?
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: Well, okay. Okay.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: So who's the MVP? I want us to all take
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: place in it since there's three separate guys.
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so best wide receiver would be me versus Alfonso.
- 1:32:29Speaker 3: Yep.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: So, okay, we're going to spin. We're going to spin,
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: and you're going to get the pickings. You know what
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: I mean? You're going to get first dibs.
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: Good thing I'm an engineer, not a lawyer. I suck
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: at arguing.
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: Wait, who's arguing who?
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: No, like you get to pick the wide receiver first.
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: Like you get to pick a wide receiver first.
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: I get to argue on who's the best?
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: Olave, obviously.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: I might pick CD Lamb just to throw a red
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: in your hands, Fonzo.
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: Are you going to pick CD? You're freaking CD?
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: I think I am. I think I am. Now, I
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: would have picked Olave. But just to throw a wrench
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: in your plans, I think I'm going to pick CD.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I was so ready to. Honestly, that is
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: tactical warfare. Ryan, just have a timer ready for a minute.
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: Now let me argue somebody else, bro. Oh, my goodness. Okay,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: I'm going to go Jason.
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: You're not going Olave, you bitch. No, I'm just kidding.
- 1:33:40Speaker 3: How much is the timer for y'all's?
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: A minute. A minute.
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: Okay. I have a minute right now to prep. And
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: then you get a minute to argue as well, right?
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: Now we're just doing this season, right?
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: Yeah, this season.
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: We're talking about just this season. All right. That's pretty easy.
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: I'm going to just go with Bracken automatically.
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: Oh, Bracken, I hate you for that. I hate you
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: so much for that. Honestly, that threw a major wrench
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: in my plate.
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: Who do you think is a better route runner, Tent
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: or Drakeland?
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: Two guys that run routes the exact same. Dude, they
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: literally are just carbon copies.
- 1:34:29Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: I'm ready.
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: Let's do this.
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: Let it.
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: Who goes first? Who's going first?
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: I'll go first. I'll go first.
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:34:44Speaker 3: Three, two, one, go.
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: Okay, so as we all know, what is really important
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: whenever it comes to your receivers? Yards, touchdowns, catches. CeeDee
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: Lamb is top three in all three of those categories,
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: and he's number one in two of them. So CeeDee
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: Lamb obviously is the number one wide receiver in the NFL. Now,
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: he does have Dak Prescott throwing him the ball, but, hey,
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: that's an advantage. Guess what? He has George Pickens trying
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: to steal away targets. He's that good. that he still
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: is elevating and playing to an insane rate. His yards
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: per catch, he's not getting targeted. He's not getting 60%
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: of the targets of the offense like JSN is. You know,
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: he's only getting his fair share. Now, with CeeDee Lamb,
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: why is he so damn good? Because he's versatile. 43%
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: of his routes just came out of the slot. The
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: other 57 are coming out wide. So he's versatile. He
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: can line up out wide. He can line up inside.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: He is leading the NFL in a high catch efficiency
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: rate with 81% while drawing some of the best corners
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: in the NFL. He just broke the Cowboys record for
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: first downs with 28 through the first four games. And
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: he has three game winning touchdowns this season.
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: Nice. Let y'all finish off y'all's last sentence. All right.
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: I'm ready.
- 1:36:04Speaker 3: All right. Three, two, one.
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: One go so when we talk about who is the
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: best wide receiver right now the first thing i want
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: to get to is he said cd lamb is not
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: getting the crazy target share he actually has five more
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: targets than jsn and we talk about as far as
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: oh the big categories receiving yards catches touchdowns not to
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: mention jsn's only five receptions back 18 yards back and
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: has more touchdowns in cd lamb And there's an advantage
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: going to CeeDee Lamb here. His defense is so bad.
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: They're having to throw the ball the entire time. Meanwhile,
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: JSN's doing his dirty work the first two quarters. So
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: that shows that he doesn't need the entire game to
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: get dirty. Not to mention he's had Drew Locke. He
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: didn't even have his starting quarterback for two of those games.
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: And not to mention JSN, he is the best route
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: runner by far. And as far as down the field threat,
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: JSN has been the most explosive player this year. And
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: I don't think there's no debate. He just picked up
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: on last year. So JSN, with less targets, has almost
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: as many yards, catches, and more touchdowns with a backup quarterback.
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: I think that goes with Fonda.
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: That was a really good argument. I'm ready for another
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: 30 seconds if you want. Because you made some points, but....
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: I'll let y'all go 30 seconds.
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: I think I have my decision, though. That was a
- 1:37:27Speaker 3: really good argument.
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: Okay, let me know. I'm ready for another 30.
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: Okay, let me add it. Okay. Wait, hold up. Alright, 3, 2, 1, go.
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: Alright, you made the point about CD-LAM, whatever, right? The
- 1:37:44Speaker 2: issue is that you didn't bring up the fact. Who
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: the fuck is JSN playing against? Who have they played against?
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: The Patriots, who have looked absolutely horrible these first four weeks.
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals, one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, literally one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
- 1:38:01Speaker 2: And the Chargers, one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: While Sedarius Lamb is going against the Giants, some of
- 1:38:07Speaker 2: the best defensive fronts in the NFL. They're also going
- 1:38:10Speaker 2: against the Commanders, and guess what? Whenever you put their
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: stats side-by-side, C.D. Lamb clears JSN. Now, I was arguing
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: best wide receiver in the NFL, not them head-to-head. Oh, shit.
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: I had more points. No, I let.
- 1:38:24Speaker 3: Him go, but then you just started, you give a
- 1:38:28Speaker 3: mouse a cookie, bro, and they start running away.
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: Oh, I know, those little fuckers. Little buggers.
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: All right. Okay. Three, two, one, go.
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: You do mention a point as far as the schedule
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: and who they are facing. But if you're throwing that
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: into context, let's talk about the big gap disparity between
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. Dak Prescott is playing at an MVP
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: level right now, and these offenses don't even compare. The
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: Cowboys offense can survive and be afloat without CeeDee Lamb,
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: without Jason in the Seattle Seahawks offense. There is no offense.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: There's no way they are going to survive. George Pickens
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: is still a top receiver and they can still survive. Oh,
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: I hate making these arguments, Brecken. I hate you so,
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: so much.
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: You sold me. You sold me. Oh, dude.
- 1:39:17Speaker 3: I hate these arguments.
- 1:39:18Speaker 2: I think you're right.
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: Fonzo won.
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: I think Fonzo's right.
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: He's wrong, but he won.
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: No, I think he's right.
- 1:39:25Speaker 3: No, you had a really good argument, Fonzo.
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: Oh, I hate that you backed me to this corner.
- 1:39:31Speaker 2: What? I don't know.
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: He's a psychology major, so he's like going to like
- 1:39:36Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: What I could have said about CeeDee Lamb to trump
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: what you were saying about JSN.
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: Yeah. That was really good.
- 1:39:47Speaker 2: In all reality, you're right. If the Seahawks don't have JSN,
- 1:39:51Speaker 2: they're not scoring touchdowns.
- 1:39:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: I hate it so much, but I know I'm right.
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: I hate it so much. Okay. So this last one,
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: it's obvious. Yeah, who's the MVP between Dak Prescott, Bryce Young.
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: And Brock Perry?
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: No, we all have guys. So I'm going to do
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: the spin the wheel. And so the first guy.
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: Dude, Alonzo, what's going on?
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: Am I lagging?
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: Alonzo, come back. Am I lagging? Yeah, you are lagging
- 1:40:29Speaker 2: like crazy.
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: Wait, can you hear me now?
- 1:40:32Speaker 2: I can hear you, but your picture looks horrible.
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 1:40:37Speaker 2: You sound good, though. You sound good. There for a minute,
- 1:40:41Speaker 2: you sounded like CP3O, man. Oh, no.
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: It says I'm connected to Wi-Fi. That's so weird. So
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: y'all can hear me perfectly fine?
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear you.
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: Okay. That's so weird, but all right. Let me try
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: to share my screen. So this first one is going
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: to be for Dak Prescott. Who's going to argue for
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? Can you see? Can you see my screen?
- 1:41:05Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, first one's arguing for Dak Prescott. It's going
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: to be Ryan.
- 1:41:13Speaker 2: Ryan Fry.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: So the next one's going to be arguing for Bryce Young.
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: Between.
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: I feel like there's one that's... And of course, I'm the.
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be the one arguing for Bryce Young.
- 1:41:31Speaker 2: Damn it.
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: So you got Brock Purdy.
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: I got Glock party.
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see and figure out why Bryce Young's
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: is the MVP this year.
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: This is.
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: Why Bryce Young out of all these people? I forgot
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: we kind of have to talk while we're doing this research. No,
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: we don't. We don't. I just kind of got... I
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: kind of got focused.
- 1:42:59Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry if we just stop talking audio.
- 1:43:01Speaker 2: This is absolutely locked in. You just hear the keyboard
- 1:43:04Speaker 2: going crazy.
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: You would think Brecken selling fridges or something. Am I right?
- 1:43:12Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: I don't have much of a point, but you know what?
- 1:43:16Speaker 2: I'm... I'm ready.
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: I'm ready for this alright y'all go first yeah let
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: me go first Brecken you start the timer for me
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: I'll let you know when.
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: Let me go to it alright let me know whenever
- 1:43:35Speaker 5: you're ready okay I am ready let me give me
- 1:43:43Speaker 5: a countdown.
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: 3 2 1 go.
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: So the reason why Bryce Young is the MVP is
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: going to be for two main reasons. Statistically, he is
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: up there. He is the NFL leader in passing yards.
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: He has nine passing touchdowns, and he has 100 pass rating.
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: And let me break down exactly why. I know we
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: talk about Dak Prescott having a bad defense, but let
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: me say a team that has even just as bad
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: of a defense with the Carolina Panthers. They're averaging almost
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: 400 yards a game. And 230 passing yards. But what
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: makes it worse is 160 rushing yards a game. So
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: not only Bryce Young, he's not able to get the ball.
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: But when he does get the ball, he does damage.
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: And not to mention, out of these two guys, between
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott, he clearly has the least
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: amount of weapons.
- 1:44:34Speaker 2: And I.
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: Will say this. Yes, they might have more talent. But
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: you know what? Who listens to Rod Wave? Who listens
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: to Rod Wave? Who's been inspired? Bryce Young's MVP.
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: Great points. Great points.
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: I tried my best.
- 1:44:58Speaker 2: Let me know.
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: All right. All right. Three, two, one. The reason Dak
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: Prescott is the MVP of the league is because compared
- 1:45:09Speaker 3: to these two opponents that he has up next to him,
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: he is producing like no other. In the modern era,
- 1:45:16Speaker 3: first time this stat's used today, the Dallas Cowboys are
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: fifth in points per drive at 3.39, rivaling 07 Tom
- 1:45:27Speaker 3: Brady and Moss in them. He's rivaling Aaron Rodgers. He
- 1:45:31Speaker 3: has an 8-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio. He has a 105 passer rating.
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: And not to mention, one of his best offensive linemen
- 1:45:41Speaker 3: is out. And he's going insane. He's making crazy reads.
- 1:45:44Speaker 3: And if I were to put, if the game were
- 1:45:47Speaker 3: on the line and I were to put any one
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks at the helm, I would put Dak Prescott.
- 1:45:52Speaker 3: He's the most seasoned. He knows what's going on. He's
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: able to read coverages like no other. He's able to
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: dissect defenses. He throws piss missiles. This dude is like
- 1:46:04Speaker 3: nothing we've ever seen. And I think it's just the beginning. Okay.
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: All right, Breck, I got your timer right here.
- 1:46:13Speaker 2: I got a good feeling about this one for some reason.
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: Three, two, one, go.
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:46:21Speaker 2: One of these quarterbacks is undefeated. One of these guys
- 1:46:24Speaker 2: has the best touchdown to interception ratio. And one of
- 1:46:27Speaker 2: these guys has the best passer rating in the NFL.
- 1:46:30Speaker 2: They're all the same guy. They're all Brock Purdy. Now,
- 1:46:33Speaker 2: what is he lacking compared to these other guys? Passing yards.
- 1:46:36Speaker 2: He's only 60 yards, not even 60 yards behind Dak.
- 1:46:39Speaker 2: And then, yes, he's 200 yards behind Bryce Young. But
- 1:46:42Speaker 2: if we go through the rest of these stats, it's
- 1:46:44Speaker 2: going to make more sense. 126 passer rating. He just
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: talked about 105 for Dak. That's really nothing whenever you compare. Now,
- 1:46:50Speaker 2: look at the competition. I mean, Brock Purdy, or sorry, yeah,
- 1:46:53Speaker 2: Brock Purdy's played some of the best competition. His yards
- 1:46:56Speaker 2: per attempt is 8.6 compared to Dak, which is 7.5,
- 1:47:00Speaker 2: and Bryce Young, which is 6.1. So you want to
- 1:47:02Speaker 2: talk about some of the best weapons that these guys have.
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: They have way better receivers that could do yak and
- 1:47:07Speaker 2: stuff like that. Brock Purdy is missing his wide receiver
- 1:47:12Speaker 2: two and three, and he's literally picking up scrubs, and
- 1:47:15Speaker 2: he's elevating, and he's literally playing at some of the
- 1:47:18Speaker 2: highest level of competition that we have ever seen in
- 1:47:21Speaker 2: breaking records like Joe Montana for efficiency.
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: Okay, I think clearly this is, I've won the debate here. What?
- 1:47:34Speaker 3: Bonzo, you played between me and Brecken.
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I was scraping at bones there at that point. Honestly,
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: Brecken could. I'm not going to lie to you. Brecken,
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: you were on your A game today. With your debates,
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: you were on your A game today.
- 1:47:57Speaker 3: You were dialed.
- 1:48:00Speaker 2: If you let me research for a second, I'll be like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: I mean, a minute of research is nothing.
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: That's enough. That's all I need, brother.
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: Compared to not researching anything.
- 1:48:11Speaker 2: I was also going to make the point of like, oh,
- 1:48:13Speaker 2: he's actually like second overall. Like he actually has Vegas
- 1:48:17Speaker 2: odds for MVP. These other two guys don't. And then
- 1:48:20Speaker 2: also the consistency and the record.
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: Dude, I tried so hard with my Bryce Young take.
- 1:48:27Speaker 3: I just don't understand. I used those stats, and then
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: I just stopped saying stats, and I was just like,
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: he's a dog.
- 1:48:33Speaker 2: Yeah, you started saying what your opinion was.
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: He's a demon. He's a dog.
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: Between y'all two, to be honest, I'd probably give it
- 1:48:41Speaker 2: to Fonzo. He gave a better argument.
- 1:48:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not very good at arguing.
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: Hey, that defensive take was kind of... I was like, okay,
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: I'm grass-matched straws. I have a little bit here, I
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: could say, but I'm like... Cowboys have a worse defense.
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: And I was like, okay.
- 1:49:01Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever you win, like, Cowboys have a really bad defense.
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: But so do the Panthers. I was like, come on, bro.
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: Come on. I couldn't say, oh, Cowboys' defense is bad.
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: You wouldn't hear the Panthers, right? And you would have said, nah,
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: Cowboys have a worse defense.
- 1:49:15Speaker 2: And then not only that.
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: I don't know who does. Then I could– Then I
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: was going to say some of the Panthers' skill position
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: players are banged up, but so is the Niners. I'm like,
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: my two points that I could go.
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: At both of these quarterbacks they have.
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: Before I did that, I was going to be like,
- 1:49:31Speaker 3: you know, if you take Dak Prescott out of this,
- 1:49:34Speaker 3: they wouldn't succeed because he is the system. But if
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: you put someone else in the other people's position, they
- 1:49:39Speaker 3: would succeed. But I didn't say that.
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: I don't agree with that at all, Ryan.
- 1:49:45Speaker 3: I don't agree with that at all.
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: I do agree. We've seen it.
- 1:49:47Speaker 3: We've seen Jimmy Garoppolo go crazy with the 49ers, has
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: he not, when Brock Purdy was here?
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: But that was like, fucking what, like four years ago?
- 1:49:55Speaker 2: And these 49ers aren't the same. Brock Purdy died. Was
- 1:49:58Speaker 2: that about Mac Jones?
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Mac Jones, sorry. Mac Jones did.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: Mac Jones went crazy. But he wasn't doing what Brock
- 1:50:07Speaker 2: Purdy's doing.
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: He did like 200 yards.
- 1:50:10Speaker 3: But were they winning?
- 1:50:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they were winning. He was doing good. Exactly. They
- 1:50:14Speaker 2: put Cooper Rush in and they were winning. No, they weren't. Dude,
- 1:50:20Speaker 2: he was like, fucking, what was he, like, three and
- 1:50:23Speaker 2: one or something? Yeah, like, and then he fucking went
- 1:50:27Speaker 2: to the Falcons and look at him now, shit.
- 1:50:31Speaker 3: No, we did horrible that year when Dad got hurt, though.
- 1:50:34Speaker 2: No, I know, I'm just saying, like, like, I feel
- 1:50:38Speaker 2: like Brock Purdy's in.
- 1:50:39Speaker 3: And Andy Dalton did better than Bryce Young when he
- 1:50:41Speaker 3: got entered into the frame.
- 1:50:42Speaker 2: I feel like right now Brock Purdy's legit in the
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: worst situation offensively out of all these quarterbacks. Offensively.
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: I think he has the best player out of all
- 1:50:53Speaker 3: of them. Who? CMC.
- 1:50:56Speaker 2: You think CMC's better than CeeDee Lamb?
- 1:50:59Speaker 3: I mean... No.
- 1:51:02Speaker 2: Dude.
- 1:51:02Speaker 3: No.
- 1:51:03Speaker 2: No.
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: Ryan.
- 1:51:04Speaker 3: You don't... No.
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: Toot that.
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: He's like the best. He's Bichon on steroids. What are
- 1:51:10Speaker 3: we talking about?
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: I think CMC's really good, but not right now.
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: Okay, not right now.
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: Prime, yes, but not right now.
- 1:51:17Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. If we're taking all these
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: guys in their prime, that's a different story.
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: And then offensive situation, yeah. You have Vontae, CD, GP.
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: I mean, there's Tett, there's Chuba.
- 1:51:29Speaker 3: There's Coker.
- 1:51:32Speaker 2: The O-line for the Panthers are actually really good. Robert
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: Hunt and... Oh, well, Monroe Freeling just got hurt, actually.
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Monroe Freeling.
- 1:51:41Speaker 2: But still, like.
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: These were good debates. But before we get out of here,
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: we need to do our so-called MVPs of the week.
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: One guy that stood out. And I know I said
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: I was going to pick Jawan Johnson, but, like, I
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: got to go with Demon Deck. Demon Deck in the
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: second half, 24-25, almost 250 yards passing, game-winning touchdown. Just
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands and he will go crazy.
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: But also shout out to one of my favorite players ever,
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson. Helped me beat Brecken in fantasy. Penn State legend.
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: Oregon legend. Glassboro legend. From New Jersey. New Jersey, stand up.
- 1:52:21Speaker 2: Why are you saying Penn State? Whenever I think of him,
- 1:52:24Speaker 2: I think of Oregon. I do not think of Penn.
- 1:52:26Speaker 1: State at all. See, I did my research. He was
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: there for three years and then went to Oregon. New Jersey,
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: stand up. Shout out Jawan Johnson. So-called AVPs of the week.
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: I got two of them.
- 1:52:41Speaker 2: Dude, I was trying to think of somebody from the
- 1:52:45Speaker 2: Bucks-Packers game because there were so many turnovers. That's so nasty.
- 1:52:50Speaker 3: But I can't think of anyone. That's so nasty, Brickett.
- 1:52:53Speaker 3: Galen Daniels.
- 1:52:55Speaker 2: No, bro, to be honest. It's either Seedy or Bijan.
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: I'll give it to Seedy. I'm giving it to Seedy
- 1:53:08Speaker 2: because fuck the Falcons, bro.
- 1:53:10Speaker 3: Mine this week is going to be Damien. Or Terry McCoy.
- 1:53:15Speaker 3: Or actually, the commander's training staff for making sure Terry's healthy.
- 1:53:21Speaker 2: Bro, they need a fire. Commanders and the 49ers need
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: a fire.
- 1:53:26Speaker 3: I'm going to change his name in my phone to Mr. Doubtful. Mr.
- 1:53:31Speaker 2: Doubtful.
- 1:53:33Speaker 3: That puts me at 3-0 against the group chat, bro.
- 1:53:36Speaker 3: I'm coming for you.
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: You're going to beat me next week. There's no way
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: I win. There's no way. Underdog mentality. Underdog mentality. We're
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: not expecting to win this game.
- 1:53:45Speaker 2: Trying to speak it into existence.
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: Underdog mentality.
- 1:53:48Speaker 2: I need to start hitting.
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: Not expecting to win.
- 1:53:51Speaker 2: I need to start betting parlays against myself in fantasy again, bro.
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: Yeah, either you win.
- 1:53:57Speaker 3: I'm not kidding.
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: You used to do that. Wait, Brecken, you used to
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: do that for real? Yeah.
- 1:54:04Speaker 2: So then even if I lost, I'd be like, oh,
- 1:54:06Speaker 2: I won, you know?
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: You know what?
- 1:54:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: But if the parlay don't hit and you lose in fantasy.
- 1:54:15Speaker 6: Oh, I know that's brutal.
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: And your team loses. Oh, dude, you're going to do
- 1:54:25Speaker 2: something to go to confession after that, man.
- 1:54:30Speaker 3: And you have a horrible dinner.
- 1:54:34Speaker 1: Oh, bro.
- 1:54:35Speaker 2: And the steak.
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: Oh, man. And you don't eat all the meat off
- 1:54:41Speaker 3: the ribs.
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: Dude, that was insane level. No, I'm not going to
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: say that. No, all right. Before we get out of here,
- 1:54:50Speaker 1: find us on Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube under TSESA or
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: the so-called Sports Analyst. We'll see you guys soon. remember
- 1:54:58Speaker 1: we got MLB college football coming out tomorrow, Wednesday, NBA Thursday,
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: the official debut of the soccer pod. So we will
- 1:55:07Speaker 1: see you guys throughout this week. You guys take care.
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: We'll see y'all soon.