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Who are these bozos? Of course the flag should be lowered for Dolly~ · Profits & Politics

• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: And good morning, folks.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the morning call show.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Bob Sellers here with Jerry Burke, a couple news vets, taking a look at the right and wrong in between the right and left.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: So, Jerry, what do you have this morning?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I often uh ask uh viewers to comment on our stories and our opinions.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: And boy, uh our take on Dolly Parton was a doozy.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh lowering yeah, lowering the flags for Dolly Parton.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's that's what I'm saying.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Should we remind people what we said?
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: The uh uh there was an executive order signed by Donald Trump to lower the flags for a while, a couple of weeks, um, in honor of Dolly Parton's passing.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we talked about it, and it was a mayor who said, you know what, I'm not gonna lower the flags in my town.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think she deserves it.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think it should be reserved for military, former presidents, etc.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: And we were both kind of like, yeah, you know, I could I could see that point, you know.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that really we were called all kinds of things.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um who are these bozos?
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Clint Eastwood, you'd lower the flag for?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the no, you were posing that you were posing that as uh if you're gonna do it for Dolly, who we were asking who do you do it for next?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you said what Clint Eastwood?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: You weren't saying right, right?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, this is really eye-opening to me.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um oh, did he lower the flag for Charlie Kirk?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: And yes, he did.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't Trump did, but I don't know if that Mississippi mayor did.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I don't know about the mayor either.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: I I uh I don't think so.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, remember I sent you an article yesterday, I think, uh saying how Trump had uh had written another executive order for Charlie.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and by the way, I oppose that.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it should be.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I I wanted to show you a list of people for whom the flag has been lowered.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Going back to 1968, I am leaving out uh people from the government, like former presidents and that sort of thing.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because we would expect the flag to be lowered.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, if Jimmy Carter dies, you expect it to be lowered.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so here it is going back to 1968.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: Here are some of the people.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: Roy Wilkins, he was civil rights leader, the spatial challenger astronauts, Columbia astronauts, Bob Hope, kind of a wild part there, uh with with George W.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Rosa Parks, again, George W.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Coretta Scott King, um, George W.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Dorothy Heid, civil rights leader that was under Obama, Neil Armstrong under Obama.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: So of those, do you have any impressions?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I would say, you know, if you're gonna do it do it for Bob Hope, you could certainly do it for Dolly Parton.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, fair enough.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the list of who Donald Trump has lowered it for Billy Graham, Charlie Kirk, Dolly Parton.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not not uh not really major political players.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like aside from Billy.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh as I say, I left out uh governmental leaders.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but that just seems like uh somebody who lives in TV.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Although the Charlie Kirk thing, I definitely would not have lowered it for him.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Regardless of whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not, his politics, I just wouldn't have done it, even though it was a tragedy, a horrible, horrible thing that happened.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: I I wouldn't dispute that for a second.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know that our nation needs to recognize him uh by lowering the nation's symbol.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: The and here's another comment.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that these two turkeys think they should be the final arbiters of this decision sadly says it all.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, celebrity doesn't do Dolly justice.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: In Britain, the Cold Stream Guards even played a tribute to her outside Buckingham Palace.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we we ran that.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um Well, I I think there are a lot of people that don't know who we are, and I don't really care.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: I I I'm you know I here's a new one just then.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you guys should just go shit in your hats.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: People are outrageous.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: Cleverness.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: By the way, I lived in the town that uh Dolly was living in in Nashville, in Britain.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I worked at the station that where she appeared, uh, the studio in which she appeared for Porter Wagner back in the late 60s.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I can tell you, as a kid, my parents used to go bowling.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: This was in Kentucky, where I was born and raised until I was uh 13.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: And they would dump my sister and me over at my grandparents, and they would go bowling, okay?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then we would watch whatever my grandparents wanted to watch, and among those things, Porter Wagner and Dolly Parton would appear on there.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: So that goes way back, back when I was a little kid.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: And so I had nothing but positive impressions of Dolly Parton.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: People need to separate the two things.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Is this an admirable person?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Is the planet better worth her on it?
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Is this something our nation should recognize by lowering the national symbol in honor of a great entertainer and a great humanitarian?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I don't think that's uh the I don't think those are the criteria for doing that.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh one viewer says, why don't you guys Google her book program for literacy and then come back to me with your asinine BS?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I know about her book programs for little kids, and she always said her dad didn't get a chance to read, and that's why it was so important to her.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she spent millions of dollars as a philanthropist.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think people again, people are meant what now.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh maybe these people would be okay if I I change the focus.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's not about Dolly.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's about Trump.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you just think whatever Trump does is right, fine.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying this is a bad decision by Trump to lower the flag for Dolly.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: I love Dolly, thought she was well, there were quite a quite a few viewers who disagreed with us on that.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, again, I I urge all of the viewers to write us.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're here, we're real people, and we love your comments, good or bad.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um we're both we both have thick skins.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Not only that, but uh I know what I think and I know what I believe.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: So you're welcome to disagree with it.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's something that doesn't seem to go down that well nowadays.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're either right or you're not, and yeah, I'm I'm just saying, yeah, this is what I think, and you can disagree.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously the president disagreed with that because he had them lower the flag.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I got a bunch of stories.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: Do you do you have anything, by the way?
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I don't know if you want to go into them.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they're gonna have a competition for some small business um money from the government, and they're gonna have Nikki Minaj and Will Kane, among others, in a Shark Tank type contest to see who gets the most money.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a great idea.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a terrible idea.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want my government doing that.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: For goodness sake.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because they should be doing some other things for God's sake.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: They they don't need to have this.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um a reality TV show president who is literally having his government do a reality TV show.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's what should happen.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Long overdue.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: I apparently I'm disagreeing with everybody.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um there also I'm gonna point out uh something I found very interesting.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the data center talk.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: We're getting a lot of data centers.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let me show you something that I thought was interesting because Scott Rasmussen, the pollster, oh yeah, posted something about the data center.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, that's something else, in which he shows data centers as a topic are not that important in the mid 2000s.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: They're down to roughly 33 percent.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: The economy is 79, 78.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: If you go by the media, you would think that data centers were top of mind.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, and that's what I thought was interesting about it.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: And there's no question that data centers now are gonna get a lot of attention, and that's what we're gonna be talking about for the next few weeks.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: And Scott Rasmussen is saying, yeah, but when you go into the booth, this isn't something that people are generally.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're not pulling levers for data centers, yeah.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, you know what Scott Rasmussen has done with his life other than be a pollster?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, he and his dad started ESPN.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: I did not know that.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Bill Rasmussen, whom I've interviewed in the past, he passed recently.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: He uh passed.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: We should have Scott on as a guest.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I I could tell that story, but we'll leave it for when we do talk to Scott because it's a great story of how he and his father got fired and ended up starting ESPN.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the American way.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, our friend in uh I believe it's Michigan, Abdul El Sayed.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he stands by his criticism of fireworks on the 4th of July.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's telling Americans find other ways to show your love.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: What's his problem?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: What does he care?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: What does he care?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: He says it's it's loud and unnecessary.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is he a dog?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, right.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's hiding under the bed when the fireworks come out.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: His new comments but get this.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: The comments follow a new CNN report that revealed that El Sayed had deleted or hid about 100 of his YouTube videos before launching his Senate campaign.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wonder what was in there.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: If somebody could do some digging, maybe one of our viewers.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, uh I was probably gonna save this for the end, but it it's just too good, the headline.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Georgia cops shoot and kill a baby donkey named Hee-Haw, and his owner demands justice.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: He was my son.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: He-Haw was raised inside the house and did petting zoos.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: He never knew a stranger, the owner said.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he was shot and killed in his own pasture for doing what donkeys do, alerting to a stranger.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, the cops in the middle of the night were looking for a suspect in another crime, and they jumped a fence into his pasture, and this little donkey came running over and started braying at them, and they unloaded.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: So poor little we poor hee-haw.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: You remember Parks and Wreck?
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: They had little Sebastian, the donkey.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: I've never seen that show, I hate to tell you, but oh my god.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds perfect, uh a little one named Sebastian.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's sad.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Poor Hee-Haw.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: They they should compensate him for that.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm sure.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, we always talk about the right and the wrong of the right and the left.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, CNN's Wolf Blitzer makes a Mia culpa over a false remark he made about Trump's executive order on mail-in voting.
• 13:10
  unknown: Okay.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: And he said on the air, we discussed legal challenges to the Trump administration's directives for the Postal Service on mail-in voting.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: A comment I made suggested that U.S.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: military and overseas voters' ballots would be impacted by these directives.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be clear right now, those ballots are exempt from the Postal Service's new rules implementing the president's March executive order.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I just like to see that.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: I like to see that.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: You remember you we were doing a story yesterday or the day before about uh Kirsty Welker.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, but she wasn't wrong, by the way.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: She wasn't wrong.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: I I know, but she didn't clarify.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't go on here and hear it.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's not her job.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: She has free speech.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Even if she had been wrong, she doesn't have to be right, but she wasn't wrong.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: She said he had mixed results in his endorsements.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: But you and I would agree that he generally has success in his endorsements.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: But a few that but in this cycle, there are a handful that didn't go his way.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm just saying that if someone as esteemed as Wolf Blitzer can do a Mia Culpa, then certainly Kirsty Walker can.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well moving on.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she has anything to apologize for.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: What did she say that was wrong?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think the idea of mix, as I said, uh the idea of mixed results kind of means like, well, maybe he's 50-50 when it comes to his endorsements.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's did she say he was 50-50?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, mixed.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: The word mixed is a loaded word, I feel.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe pick that for that reason.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: However, as I've said, you're allowed to say things that are wrong.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but like Wolf and others, you know, you uh who's uh Bill Maher even went on the air and corrected himself, did a clarification.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Because Trump called him, because he was texting him and calling him compelling.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't I don't know if he called about Wolf about a joke that Bill Maher made.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: A newspaper like the New York Times has a corrections column.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, you know, they're constantly.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's a Twitter handle that just follows mistakes in the New York Times.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: But okay, don't get me wrong, Terry.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: You uh the the journalists that get things wrong, it's their credibility at stake.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's their credibility, but they owe the president nothing as far as saying what he wants them to say.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's my point.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Now, should they correct themselves if they're wrong for their own credibility?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: But should they say it because the president's upset?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, oh, going back to Rasmussen, there's new polling by real clear politics shows GOP candidates are trailing Democrats in eight major Senate battlegrounds, raising the prospect of a brutal election night for Donald Trump.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'd I'd like to see those, and I can.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: I I could go.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I just I don't know how you feel, Jerry, but I feel like polls really are very unscientific nowadays.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: And and we could discuss this with again, we'll have to get Scott, but one of the reasons they're unscientific is um you get a call on your phone and it's a polster, you're probably not answering.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a landline and you're answering, first of all, I kind of know how old you are.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: But secondly, secondly, that used to be way more accurate.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: So now what pollsters do is they uh manipulate, maybe manipulates.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: They let's just say they work with the numbers to get the results that they think those uh uh the data should show.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we saw we've seen plus there was that polster that made up all those things.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh yeah, remember that?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Just a week or so ago.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, saying that they did it as performance.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: He was doing he was doing an experiment to to prove that they they they weren't accurate.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: There should there literally should be a law against that.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean you shouldn't be able to just make up stuff like that.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um have you have you been watching the U.S.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Open at all?
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's been a lot of complaints this year.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: They said in recent years, the U.S.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Open in New York City has turned into New York's longest, most debaucherous end-of-summer party.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: The people in the stands are drinking beer and smoking weed to the point where pla to the point where players are complaining about the smell of the marijuana.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I yeah, I haven't been to one of those matches in a long time.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I used to go when I lived in New York.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, to the US Open.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: The reputation is that you know, everyone's sitting around wearing their polo shirts, white polo shirts, and you know, sipping gin and tonics, and it's all very, you know, pinky up kind of stuff, you know.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't know that that was going on.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: What would you do in that situation?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: What would I do?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't mean would you smoke a doobie.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean if you were running the organization that the the Oh, well, uh, you know, obviously, you know, the the the you know, it's almost beyond control.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost beyond patrolling it.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Start yanking, emptying half the stadium out?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't people just, you know, you know, get a clue, you know, and be a little bit more polite.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um is it I don't even know.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is pot legal in New York?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: It is, it is, but but you know how they've been, you can't light a cigarette there in the stands.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: So why can't they say the same thing about smoking marijuana?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Pot.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, except maybe they go in the back, smoke it, and they're exhaling.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, oh, I got a good a good one for you.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, your friend Jim Acosta, formerly of CNN.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: He said, he said on uh during a stream that he was doing, he said, I had an ambassador to one of our allies in Europe come up to me and say, what's happening right now, Jim, in America reminds me of Germany in the 1930s.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And what's your thought?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think he's crazy, you know.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think Jim Acosta is a nutjob, number one.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: And number two, you know, what do you mean it's like Germany in the 30s?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Are we are we rounding up Jews?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, are do we are we starting up concentration camps?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think the rhetoric in the hyperbole is just it's off the charts.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, um, when you said my friend Jim Acosta, I've never met him.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I have, however, Jerry, met his father.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: His father used to work at the local grocery store that I would go to.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: And this was before yeah, he used to, it was before Jim became uh a household name.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what a small world.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I knew him and his father, I think, came here from Cuba and uh seemed like a nice man and could not have been prouder of his son.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I always have a soft spot in my heart for a family dynamic like that.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, talk about Germany in the 1930s.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: You would think Jim Acosta would would you know realize that Cuba's closer to Hitler's Germany than we ever were or are.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: But I I don't think that's the argument he would make.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's probably making that uh um what's going on here in the United States is similar to Cuba, similar to because of the authoritarian, the autocratic nature that Trump has.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Everything's done by executive order.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: He knocks down the East Wing, and then um everybody supports him.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: I shouldn't say everybody.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: The GOP has generally gone along with them, just like um I don't even like making the comparison.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just gonna say in the 30s, uh uh that person we're talking about was elected.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't like to make the analogy.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just carrying through the the logic of it.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: And and definitely Trump has some autocratic tendencies, uh and and he has a party that is supporting him by and large.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Those are the similarities.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't really like carrying out that observation.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I get what you're saying.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: However, when you do travel abroad, and I have, people do ask you, what the heck's going on with America?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the America we knew.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I agree with that.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: And frankly, when Trump says uh the world, you know, we're back and the world respects us like never before.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's simply not true.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I urge any American to travel abroad and ask people what their perception is.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because that that's that argument just doesn't hold uh.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well then why are why are millions of migrants, you know, clamoring to come here?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Not because of Trump, because of the American dream.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because we we offer more economic opportunity than the the the uh failing countries they're coming from.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I I believe in the American dream.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: I believe in people coming to you.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: You just got to do it legally, right?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just like Germany in the 30s, I guess.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not making that analogy.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Acosta went on to say an ambassador who represents another U.S.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: ally and was also present for the conversation nodded in agreement.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, again, I don't like making those analogies.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I understand what they're saying.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: And again, it comes down to Trump wants to do something.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: There, there is almost nobody stopping him.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: And he also, let me tell you one big difference.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: The person we're talking about in Germany came up at a time that that was a country that was struggling.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: They had inflation, you know.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: You see the pictures of you need the wheelbarrow to bring in the German marker, whatever.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they had been destroyed out of World War I.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: And they there were penalties on them economically, and there were a lot of people that felt like uh the global community did not treat them well.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so along comes this one guy who's quite a speaker and gets everybody together against the rest of the world.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: He picks on certain groups more than others, and he gets them together and starts putting them to work, even though it's to work as soldiers, right?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: So um the I understand that he that he came, he rose during a time of economic uh destruction in Germany and in that era.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're not like that.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: You can say Biden was a failure on many levels, he was, but the American economy, even when when Biden was president, uh what 29 trillion a year?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we are not a failed economy.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: We were not that situation.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: I do think people have lost faith in the American dream versus what they used to, and I do think Trump has tapped into the disappointment with the way Washington works.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: But I I would not make a direct comparison to that.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: So don't come at me with that.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: I have news, I have Bucky's news.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh have you ever have you ever been to Bucky's?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Have I?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course I've been to Bucky's.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: I done traveled out.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's bigger than any Walmart I've ever been.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe this is a truck stop.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what you know?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a state, actually.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a state of mind.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: They took part of Alabama and moved it to wherever Buckeys is.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: But they have clean bathrooms, they have any kind of food you might want.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: You want to buy your inner hot dogs.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like a hundred gas pumps.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And showers.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: They have hot showers there.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's right, which by the way is especially good for the truckers who make their living, you know, on the road.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: I never took a shower at a truck stop, but you know, it's good to know.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't either.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's good to know it's there if you need it.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't want the stories to come out on that.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: So the Texas-based uh travel center, Buckeys, continues to expand its footprint with states like Florida and Texas being central to its growth.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Former Florida Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins says there is a bigger economic story behind where companies like Bucky's choose to invest.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Why are businesses looking to states like Florida and Texas?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Collins points to lower taxes, fewer regulatory hurdles, population growth, and a political climate that actively competes for business investment.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think they're kind of a southern institution.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if they're in any places up north.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: I know they're here in Virginia.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um when we're traveling, there's a big Bucky's down uh near Stanton, Virginia, south of Harrisonburg.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: On E1.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I I and then uh where else?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: I've been near them in Tennessee, I've been to them in Tennessee, I think Georgia.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember, but I've been to a a number of them.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so are they more of a southern thing?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's kind of kind of fits in.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Jay Jay Collins is making the argument that it's more of a red state phenomenon.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because red states, he's saying, are more business friendly.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I think that's going a little too far.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because uh look, I've lived in Texas, I've lived in Tennessee, both have no state income tax, and I love that.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Florida, same thing.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: And are businesses going to those states because of that?
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Is Bucky's going there because of that?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's probably part of it.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: But if they could make money, look, I think there's a really good company called Wegmans, they have a grocery store chain.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: They're huge in the Northeast, and I know some of that family, and they have expanded all over, and they, you know, they run a good business, and I don't know.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: I I think businesses kind of go where they're wanted, stay where they're well treated, and the Buckeyes is a great southern brand.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: You get outside the cities, oh yeah, 10 miles outside New York.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're in Hillbilly country.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're in a different world.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I I think um Bucky's works in a lot of places, and yeah, I think they tend to have uh maybe more people.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, I I've looked around there and said if you want to see who voted for Trump, here you go.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you're not.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: But having said that, having said that, I was in there with my family and we didn't vote for them.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that upset a lot of people.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, true.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's it, but I still like Bucky's and I still like Wegmans.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I just I'm uncomfortable, Jerry, with the whole world either being red or blue.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, can't we agree on a few things in the middle?
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on, yeah.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Bucky's no, I I I totally get that.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like what happened to us?
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Good question.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a bunch of stories coming out of the Pentagon that are very unsettling.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: You got apparently the Secretary of the Army has stepped down and resigned after issuing a blunt takedown of Pete Heggseth.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, there's a lot of generals don't like what uh Petey is up to.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they talk about um the you know, the fact that his his he's so close to his wife, she's like his top advisor, and he takes her everywhere.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um but the secretary of the army met with President Trump last week and unloaded his concerns about the Secretary of War is managing the army.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: So Pete, the generals are upset saying they're too focused on Iran right now and they're leaving our back door wide open.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: And God forbid, if China makes a move on Taiwan, we'll be caught entirely flat-footed.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: Let me say, first of all, that without revealing the people who have told me this, there are a lot of people within the defense ecosystem.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just leave it at that, who consider him a f uh a a uh a phony.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um Pete Haggsith is uh way in over his head.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: He should not have that position, he's not qualified for it, and now he's uh refusing to give promotions to people because he doesn't like their politics.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I got news for you.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: These people have put their lives on the line, literally put their lives on the line for 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then he comes along, and because he doesn't like your politics, for you should be open to different political and military perspectives if you're a leader, uh, and then pick what you think will work.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: But there are a lot of people within the Pentagon who don't like him, they consider him a phony.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, it's the reality.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna tell you who has told me this, but that's the perception.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so this is boiling.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting the feeling.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: This has been going on for quite some time.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the sources told this magazine that even Trump was surprised by how many military leaders and generals were fired or forced out or denied promotions by Hegseth based on loyalty.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the problem.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they are loyal by definition.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: These people are loyal, and you know who they're loyal to?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: The American people.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: They're loyal to the Constitution.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're not sworn in to serve Trump, they're not sworn in to serve Hegzith, they're sworn in to follow the Constitution and serve the country.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: You could raise the point that you know, some people point to the, you know, this is all part of the deep state because if you don't like a president or a secretary, all you have to do is hunker down and wait them out.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: And you'll still have your job in four years, and the other people will be gone.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um somebody once told me when you get a star on your shoulder, which makes you a general, uh, politics are involved.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to be uh naive and think that there are no politics involved here.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: But there does seem to be a distinction between um getting opportunities that you are truly qualified for from your military expertise and losing your positions because they don't like your politics.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um again, I think it depends on what happens.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you get fired or you don't get your retirement, that's a problem.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: If you just don't get that promotion because they don't think you're on board, yeah.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of understand that.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, there are a lot of people that are concerned that what we're doing now.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, number one, China is watching every step we take.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: And number two, we're using a lot of our arsenal on Iran, yeah.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: That maybe doesn't need to be done, and we may be exposing ourselves.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not an expert on that, so I can't tell you that's true, but that's what they are.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that's all I have in my little holster here.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we've had a lot.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot there.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: A lot there.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh my God, 34 minutes went by just like that.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: How about that?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, breaking news changes everything.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Remember,