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A 62-Year-Old And Her 13-Year-Old Niece Talk About Growing Up And Growing Older · Aging ain't for Sissies

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  SPEAKER_00: Hey friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before we jump into today's episode, I wanted to let you know I'm taking a little summer vacation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, even podcasters need to recharge once in a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: While I'm away, I'm bringing back some of my favorite episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are conversations that are just as relevant today as when they first aired.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think they're worth another listen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whether this is your first time hearing it or your second, maybe your third, who knows?
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope you find something new to take away from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll be back soon and brand new episode with brand new episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Until then, thanks for listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And remember, Aging A for Sissies.
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  SPEAKER_00: On today's episode, I have a very exciting podcast for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: My 13-year-old great niece Brooke and I are going to be asking each other questions about aging.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: So stick with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Grab your coffee, get your iced tea, whatever time you're listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're in the car, maybe even your mom's listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
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  SPEAKER_00: In the car on the way to work.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we hope you enjoy this episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we're going to have fun doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But right now, just get ready and I'll tell you a little bit about the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what kind of a week have I had?
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  SPEAKER_00: An exhausting week.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've had my great niece Brooke and my great nephew Chris here in Chicago, and we have been non-stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have been at the bean.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have watched fireworks.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have just had a great time.
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  SPEAKER_00: But boy, I'm telling you, I'm not as young as I once was, which is the whole point of this podcast the aging ain't for sissies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, this week was not for sissies, but we did it.
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  SPEAKER_00: We managed to get through the week, and I think we had a really good time.
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  SPEAKER_00: We toured the city, we went to the Museum of Science and Industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the funnest things we did is we got on a tall ship, sailing ship at 9 o'clock or 9.15.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um we went out into the lake and we got to watch the fireworks come out be shot off the lake.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just so beautiful with the city behind it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a beautiful day.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had been at the beach.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was 84.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then today it is freezing and cold and drizzly.
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  SPEAKER_00: But uh the whole week that they were here or the five days were beautiful weather except for today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today was the day we went up in the Sears Tower and we saw nothing but clouds.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think it was still fun because we got to go through the museum and we got to take tons of insta pictures.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's always fun for the gram.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh as my nephew calls it, the gram.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think we um I think we had a really good time.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm gonna put you on the spot, Brooke, because you're sitting right here.
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  SPEAKER_00: What was your favorite thing we did?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, probably the big bus on the first day because you got to go on and off whenever you want, and you could go around the whole city.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so there's a good tip.
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  SPEAKER_00: The on and off bus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now we've done that, Craig and I have done that in many cities we've been in, but it was really enjoyable, especially it was a beautiful day.
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  SPEAKER_00: We sat up top, and again, you could get on and off as often as you wanted.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one time we rode it around the whole loop and got to see all of the different architecture here in the city.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for me, who does all the driving, I have to agree with Brooke.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was really fun because I've got to finally look around and see the city I've lived in for a year in a whole different way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that was a super fun trip.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they go home tomorrow, which will be Monday when this episode airs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um I think they'll come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and they'll come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we we managed to squeeze ourselves into our one-bedroom condo, and the kids slept in the living area, and Craig and I had our bedroom, and the cats were everywhere, and they're still everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we managed to make it through the week, and it was uh it was a lot of fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really was.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did a lot of walking.
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  SPEAKER_00: It tells me I'm still not ready and in shape for my trips coming up, but I'm doing the best I can.
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  SPEAKER_00: We rode the trains today.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was the kids' first um trip down into the L.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we rode the upper train and the underground train, which was really a lot of fun, something new and exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and because it's such a cold day, I think all the tourists and stuff stayed in more.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't so crowded in the city today, which was a lot more fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: The weather has a lot to do with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: How great the cats are gonna come in the room and um do some fighting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that that kind of wraps up the week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, they're gonna take we're gonna take the kids to the airport tomorrow, and then oh, I'm gonna take a breath and maybe sleep the whole afternoon.
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  SPEAKER_00: They get to sleep on the plane on the way home.
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  SPEAKER_00: So four hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: You guys get four hours of sleep.
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  SPEAKER_00: I gotta get through the traffic, get home, and then maybe I can do some sleep.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's enough about me, enough about my week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next week, I've got some doctor's appointments coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shocking, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: You guys are so surprised that I have some doctor's appointments.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I see my cardiologist after all my cardiology tests.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we should have some information.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, it's good news.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So sit back again, refill that coffee, pay attention to the road, Angie, if you're driving.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um Brooke and I are gonna ask each other some questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: It should be fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now Brooke and I are gonna ask each other questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Brooke, first introduce yourself to the audience.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, my name is Brooke, and I'm gonna be in eighth grade at Payne Junior High, and I'm 13.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, 13.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's an age, right, everyone?
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  SPEAKER_00: 13 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're we're gonna kind of go back and forth on questions, and Brooke has some, and we have some that we're gonna do together.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, all right, Brooke.
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  SPEAKER_00: First question you ask me, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or I ask you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You ask me.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have this complicated system, but we're gonna go.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, Brooke.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who is the oldest person that you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, Pa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Pa is um my mom's dad.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, perfect.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what do you know about his life?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, he likes to go golfing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, he really likes golf.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we talked about a little earlier that maybe the next time you see Pa, you might ask him some questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what was his first job?
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  SPEAKER_00: What was his first car?
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are kind of where he grew up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you might want to learn more, a little bit more about Pa.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're you're gonna learn a little bit more.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, Brooke, what does a person's age tell us?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, a person's age can tell you, like, if they're older, they've been through more than like um a younger person.
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  SPEAKER_02: True.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they've experienced more things.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's very true.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think as a general rule, somebody who's 60 has experienced more than 30.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, so I think that's uh that's very good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is a person's age important in your culture?
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  SPEAKER_00: And how is it important?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so see, I think that's very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you don't think that a person's age is important in our culture?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I think anybody could can do anything at any age.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think that's a really good attitude because I think my guess would be that there's a lot of young people, and it and I think it could be young people that haven't been around older people, think that older people are just useless.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that a lot of young people think that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think you have the opportunity beyond different age people.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have older parents, number one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I had older parents considerable at my when it was my day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think when you're raised with older parents, you have a different view of aging in people.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and you hang around me, so and I'm old.
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  SPEAKER_00: So all right, the next question we're gonna both answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, are your friends, are you friends with anyone who is much older or younger than you?
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  SPEAKER_00: And do you think that age makes a difference in being friends?
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  SPEAKER_00: So at 13, what do you think?
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  SPEAKER_02: I had some friends that were younger, but when I went to middle school and I never saw them anymore, I didn't really talk to them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't go to the same school and I just never saw them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So but when you were friends with them, do you think at the time you were friends with them that your age made a difference in how you acted together?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or not really.
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  SPEAKER_00: You just had fun, you had similar interests, so you had fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, and I think as you get older, I think you have a large group of friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have, I was very blessed to have a job and an office where there's a lot of 30-somethings that work there.
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  SPEAKER_00: They listen to this, and I was able to become friends with them and stay friends with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would think, and I think they would say that my age had no bearing on our friendship.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm twice their age or almost twice their age, and we're still friends till this day.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think as you get older, that line gets closer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, all right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the next one, um what is your earliest memory?
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  SPEAKER_00: How old were you?
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  SPEAKER_00: And why do you remember that moment?
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna both answer this one.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: My earliest memory.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember my house when I lived in Pennsylvania.
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  SPEAKER_02: My earliest one was in California.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you remember that California house?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do remember that house.
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  SPEAKER_00: And do you remember your friends like Sydney?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'm still friends with her.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you remember, so let's say how old were you when you moved to Arizona?
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  SPEAKER_00: I was in second grade.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you your first memory is probably kindergarten, maybe even younger?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Probably um yeah, preschool or kindergarten, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
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  SPEAKER_00: My my earliest memory would probably be kindergarten.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the weird thing about my memories are not positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not when I was a kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember all the bad things.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember a lot of the good things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my sisters, your grandmother, always say, Well, we had great birthday parties and things for you, but for some reason I don't have those memories, and I I am stuck in a negative young memory thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's a bummer for me for being young.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I then my memories got better.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, when I was real young, I I don't have great memories.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why, and I don't want to know why.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we just let it go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you asked me the next one, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, in your opinion, what is the best age to be?
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, we just did that one.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, that's six.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: We just did five.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we did.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Your number is a good one.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: We can't keep track of each other.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're bet you're younger, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_02: In your opinion, what is the best age to be?
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  SPEAKER_02: What's a good what's good about that age?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think, well, I honestly think whatever age you are is the best age because at 62, I am grateful that I lived this long.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: It could be, it could be worse.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: I could have not made it to 62.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think you have to be grateful for wherever you are.
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  SPEAKER_00: But honestly, I think my best age was in like early 40s, because I think when you turn 40, people start respecting you more, like 20s and 30s, not so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think the older people, which I am now, respect people in their 40s.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think I looked good and I felt good in my 40s.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm thinking that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The next one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that for me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Mine says I ask you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, then ask me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Growing up can be hard.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is there any age you didn't enjoy?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's start where I remember.
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  SPEAKER_00: I start remembering mostly things in third grade.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't really enjoy junior high.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to be honest.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, my nickname was Jolly Green Jackass.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was in elementary school.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't, I went to a private school and I didn't really like that until I was in third grade.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I really started enjoying my age is when I was in high school.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a good time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I I liked high school.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think um younger than that, I had a hard time.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, whenever you're different than the rest of the kids, they they tend to pick on you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was tall.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: I was about this tall when I was in sixth grade.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was kind of a bummer.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I'm gonna say junior high was probably the worst for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Mine says you ask me also.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Our tastes in um okay, our tastes in many areas change as we get older.
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  SPEAKER_00: What did you like before that you don't like now?
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  SPEAKER_00: What did you dislike before and now you like?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is a hard one because your eating habits are the worst.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, we both have to answer this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, your eating habits are the worst.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: In a few minutes, you're gonna have to try Chicago deep dish.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know that is scary.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, so I had chicken a couple nights ago.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you did.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: You did have some chicken.
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  SPEAKER_00: So our taste in many areas changed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what did you like before that you is there anything you liked before that you don't like now?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sausage on pizza.
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  SPEAKER_02: When I was little, I loved it, and now I just don't need it anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, very good.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what did I like?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I used to like juice when I was young.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like juice now.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, what did we like before and now?
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  SPEAKER_00: What did we not like before and now we enjoy?
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: I know exactly what my answer is.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my answer is coconut.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hated coconut when I was little.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt like you chewed it forever and then it was still there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like an hour or two hours later, all of a sudden you find a piece of coconut and you're chewing on it again.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hated it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But now I absolutely love all things coconut.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that is my that's mine that I didn't like and now I like.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Is there anything you didn't like?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um that now you like?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's things that like I didn't try before, but that I tried and I did like, like a quesadilla.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Never liked them, but now I do.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you didn't like a quesadilla and now you do.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: All right, the next one.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: You ask, oh wait, who asks who that one?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I should ask you that one.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Do you respect the elderly and how do you show your respect?
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like if they're like holding a door open for someone that's an easy one just to do, to be nice to absolutely.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So today we rode the train.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you saw an old lady get on older than me, maybe the age of your grandma.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Cindy, just kidding.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, would you stand up if they're the train was crowded?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Would you give them your seat?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad to hear that.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's great.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it runs into the next question.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Are young people less polite today than like when I was younger?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: I have to say yes.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think young people, we I I think it's because we feared our elders.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we were more respectful, which isn't a good thing, okay, to fear your elders, but we did.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like our moms could look us, give us one look like they're gonna kill us, and we knew it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think that for your generation and the younger generations, your parents aren't quite like that.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe it seems like you're not as respectful.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I know you kids are.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: You kids are very respectful.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: But I think as a general rule, young people, because they don't have fear of elders, are maybe not as respectful as they should be.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I and like I say, that's kind of a double-edged sword, everyone, because being afraid of older people is and your parents is not a great thing.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know where to find the balance on that, but I know you have because you don't fear your parents, no, but you do know respect.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think your parents have done a great job giving you that balance.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think a lot of other parents have.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: They've just let their kids be feral and let the world figure it out.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I don't think that's great.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I'll read this one too.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: Do you ever give advice to people who are younger than you?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: What advice could you give to a teenager?
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: I did all the time.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was the thing I loved about my office.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the people really respected me as an adult and as a human that's lived life, and they asked me a lot of questions.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I gave a lot of advice.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what advice would I give a teenager?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: The advice I would give a teenager is when things go bad, you guys freak out and you think it's gonna be forever, right?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and things do go bad, especially with social media and all the stuff.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I always showed my kids a timeline of their life and like this is the beginning, this is the end, right?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the tiny blip that that is in your life, right?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so don't sweat the small stuff.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I know it's hard and I know it's feelings are involved, but if you look at it through the whole, your whole long life timeline, it takes up such a tiny blip in it that it really doesn't matter in the long run.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: So if you can remember that, maybe it won't seem so bad.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I do know that feelings get involved and get hurt and that that stinks.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: And social media is a really hard thing for young people to navigate these days.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: All right, the next one I ask you, but it is kind of for both of us.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: But I think I think this one's a both.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know I said both, but I I'm thinking, have you met any grumpy old men or grumpy old women?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you think makes them unhappy?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I've really met and like grumpy, but like if I see an older person, like I'll smile or whatever, and they just like don't do anything or something.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: They just give you a look.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't smile back.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: That sucks.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what do you think makes them unhappy?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know, maybe something could have happened in their life that made them sad or maybe they lost their spouse or their kids don't talk to them.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Those can be sad things when you're older.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think sometimes, and I think sometimes older people just think they have the right to be grumpy because they're old.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just think you should be grateful you're old because the alternative is you're in the ground.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but I I do think sometimes people just think, I think that as we get older, we think we have a right to be miserable or make other people miserable.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think that's good.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So let's try to change that.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, next one.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm asking you.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when is it okay to ask someone their age?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Do you mind telling people your age?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: I absolutely do not mind telling people my age.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm grateful to be 62 and have lived this long.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's ever okay to ask people their age.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, like I don't even know most people's age.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: I guess we ask teenagers how people ask you the whole time you've been here how old are you?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess it's okay to ask young people.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just don't ask old people.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because now that I think about it, each time we met somebody or been in the building or like this morning.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: They asked me, like, how old are you?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that was kind of nice in church that that guy asked you that question.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was kind of cool.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: This one I'm asking you, but we could both answer it.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: What is the best age for a person to settle down and get married, and why do you think that?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um I would say like in your 20s.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Whereabouts in your 20s?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's 10 years in there or nine years in there.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: Not in the beginning.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: So like I'd say like 24.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, when you could start.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right, 24.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: I disagree.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think that's fair.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's your answer.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think 24?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because you don't want to be like too young and you don't want to be too old.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, because if you're too young, like you'll just get a divorce and then like, yeah.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's kind of scary, isn't it?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Especially for your generation.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I I kind of go towards the 30.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I go towards the later 20s, early 30s.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think your 20s are your time to make your mistakes and learn from them and grow.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I would prefer if that's not a divorce.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want you to make that mistake, you know.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I think some marriages can last in their from people in their early 20s, but I think it's maybe a little harder.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that I would go towards the late 20s and into the early 30s.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And both of my kids are following suit, right?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: That they're 28 and 30, and nobody's married yet.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I I kind of like that.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Craig and I were 30 and 35 when we got married.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: And um I I I think that was good for us.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it's different for everyone, I guess, right?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right, where are we?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: 16.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're skipping 15.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because we thought it was stupid.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do I ask you that one?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: But we both answer.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Age-related diseases such as Alzheimer's makes life difficult for some elderly people and their family members.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have any experience yet in your family with Alzheimer's?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good question.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: What's Alzheimer's?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: Alzheimer's is a D disease that takes away your memory, basically.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so they can forget who you are.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Even it could happen to me, and one day you would look at me and I wouldn't even know who you are.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: That would be so sad, wouldn't it?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it would be really sad.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now we're gonna both cry.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, that would be really sad, but that's that's what happens.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it happens.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're very blessed that so far that hasn't happened in your family.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And your grandparents are doing great, and your parents are doing great.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that that's a true blessing for you.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: My dad had Lewy body dementia, which is a form of Alzheimer's.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Daddy always knew who I was, but had lost reality of how old I was.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I was in my, oh wow, I was in my late 40s, and I would visit dad and he would ask why I wasn't in school.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I would just tell him because it was a holiday.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: There's no reason to explain to him, Dad, I'm in my 40s.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't remember.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I would always just kind of go along with whatever dad had.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: But he could remember things from way in the past.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: He just lost track of the future.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then at the point he got sick, um, he decided not to take his medicine and he knew he would pass away, but he took his own control.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he knew he was losing his mind, and that really was his decision.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what Alzheimer's is.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so grateful that you haven't had to experience it in your life.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that you are saved from that.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: What happens to senior citizens in your culture?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are retirement homes common?
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or do all generations live in the same house with their children?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there are retirement homes right next to my house.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, there is.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: And the neighborhood right next to it.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe one day I'll live there.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: And um, if you hear anything in the background, that is my robotic cat litter box going.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, too late to change that.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I should have put it on hold.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then the cat's gonna jump in it.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: She likes to play like it's a ride.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think in our culture, most parents take care of themselves, but I think there are cultures which I absolutely adore, where the parents move back in with the kids and the kids they become one family, multi-generational family.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's pretty great.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, unfortunately, I think in our culture, we feel like our parents need to take care of themselves and we need to just move on.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I I like the other idea though.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: I like when families are multi-generational because I think um we need to respect the elders in our society and realize that they're not useless, that they have a lot of information and knowledge and things that they can pass on.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they've even found that opening up daycares in a senior citizen's home is a great thing for the kids and the elderly people.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody has something to contribute.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that we should respect that more.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's my opinion.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, next one.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, mine says, I ask you.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um people try to hold on to their youth, youth with exercise, surgery, or medication.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about getting older?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think getting older sucks.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that any way you can slow it down, do it.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I try to exercise the best I can.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: I can't have surgery, but I do Botox in my face, keep it less wrinkled.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's got a lot of wrinkles still, but could you imagine if I didn't do the Botox?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: It would be like dragging on the ground.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I believe in doing whatever makes you happy and whatever you can afford.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's what Dolly Parton says.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever you can afford, whatever you can do, whatever makes you happy, do it.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I believe for everyone.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that exercise is important.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think eating right is important.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, I'm gonna find out some information from my cardiologist, what your doctors tell you.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm trying to take off some weight that I put on moving here to Chicago because I know it's better for me.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I think whatever you do, do what makes you happy.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't think aging is easy.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: As my podcast says, aging ain't for sissies, right?
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's art and it sucks sometimes.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, do whatever you need to do.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm gonna ask you the next two.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll answer, maybe I won't.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: What age do you hope to reach?
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: And is do you think there's a such an uh thing as an ideal age to die?
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not sure.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's not like a specific age I want to reach.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: I want to live as long as I can.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: And um no, I don't think there is an age that you should specifically Okay.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: So just recently I've had this epiphany.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: I may have said it on the podcast before you guys, but um, is there an ideal age to die?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's 90.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think everything just goes downhill after 90 and things break down and you're just stuck in this cycle of just trying to live.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I think I want to live the best I can.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'm gonna make it that long, to be honest, just because of who I am and the things I have going on with me.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I think at 90, I want to tap out.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm done.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: After 90, it all just falls apart.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a few people that live well, it's not gonna be me.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I think.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I want to reach the best age I can while my body and mind still work.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: When my body and mind no longer work, I really don't want to be here anymore.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be a burden to anyone, or I don't want to be a burden to myself.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that is my that's my thoughts on that one.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: And this is an interesting thing that Oscar Wilde said.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: He said, I am not young enough to know everything.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think that means?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um what I think it means is young people think they know everything.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like Chris.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like Chris.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: He really thinks he knows everything.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: He knows everything.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: He knows a lot.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: He does, but he doesn't know everything.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's kind of what it means.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Young, when we're young, we think we know everything, and as we get older, we realize how little we know.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: So we're not young enough anymore to know everything.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I think is meant by that.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: All right, Miss Brooke, I really enjoyed this.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a good time?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I did.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm not gonna do a senior moment again this week because we did talk a lot and we did talk a long way.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you enjoyed our interview.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think that Brooke has a really good view of what young people are, and I think I had a really good view of what old people are.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, if nothing else, I hope you learned that young people do have a lot to offer.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I think young people should realize that us old people have a lot to offer, and we can get along.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: We had a good week, huh?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: We had a lot of fun.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, thanks for listening.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: And remember what I always say AG Day for Sissy.