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Quick Fix or Trap? | 3x Ms. Olympia Whitney Jones on Eating Disorders, Semaglutide, & Peptides · The Hannah Hammond Show

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  When you're in those those crazy mental states, you think there's
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  no way you could live happy without having this eating
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  disorder. What was the story of your
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  eating disorders? What even started that?
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  My disorder with eating started at performance base.
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  So I was in high school, I was a track athlete.
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  I had like the stomach fluid been going around.
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  My family had had it. It was right before one of my
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  mates and you know, they were lining up in the blocks and I
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  thought, Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm going to throw up.
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  And I ran off to the side and just threw up, but I felt better
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  and they're like called me Whitney.
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  Did I get in the blocks? OK, boom had the PR best time of
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  my life. And of course in my brain, I
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  attribute it to I just emptied my body and I was lighter.
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  Well, then you have all this information of this is what
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  people do to stay skinny. So that's what then started it
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  because you get the positive reinforcement to go, OK, well, I
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  can just continue this eating disorder and that way I'll never
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  gain weight. So mine started out as like
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  bulimia. Then I went into, OK, I'm going
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  to starve myself, which didn't work out because then, you know,
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  I cheered in high school and I would pass out before games.
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  So then I realized I needed to eat.
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  Then it went back to bulimia, binge eating.
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  At a certain point, my parents really kind of intervened and
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  they're like, this isn't good. They were trying to encourage me
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  to go the right route and I couldn't stop.
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  Welcome back to the Hannah Hammond show.
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  I am so excited to have my friend Whitney Jones here today
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  who is just an absolute bad ass boss in all areas.
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  And I know you through genius network and Joe Polish and you
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  live here in Arizona and you are such an inspiration to me and
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  I'm so excited to hear your story today because I don't know
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  it fully and excited to learn. But Whitney is has won Miss
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  Olympia, which for those of you who don't know, is basically the
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  Super Bowl of bodybuilding in the world, like for the world.
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  And she's won it not only one time, but three separate times
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  and was the first woman. And I don't maybe still only
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  woman to to win as a mother as well.
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  There have been some sense which I think is broke.
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  Even more exciting, you know, but yes.
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  Yeah, they always say like the they used to say that why not
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  for the five minute sub 5 minute mile was impossible and then as
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  soon as one person broke it, then people could.
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  Totally open up the doors for it, yeah.
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  But and, and then also on top of that, you're just a serial
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  entrepreneur and you're a mother of two boys, 16 and 18 years
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  old. You're more recently of Co
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  founder and owner of Unstoppable 365, which is a health and
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  Wellness company that helps not only with nutrition and physical
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  health and getting in shape, but the mental battle of that too
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  and reaching your highest potential.
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  And I think there's a huge correlation between mental
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  health and physical health. A. 100%.
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  About a. 100% Oh yeah. So yeah, I'm just excited to
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  hear your story. I have a lot of personally
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  selfish questions to ask you because I've heard a lot.
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  I love. It, I love it and I'm excited to
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  be here. I know we talked months ago and
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  you were talking about launching it and then you got started and
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  then now to be a guest like this is so fun.
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  I love it and congratulations. That's so cool.
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  It's great to see you grow. Thank you, Whitney.
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  I'm I'm super excited and as we were just talking about, I wish
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  I could do this all day. Just talk to amazing people I
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  know. Hey, let's make that happen
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  then. I know that's the goal.
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  Yes. Well, awesome.
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  Well, I'd love to hear like, what is your story?
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  How do you get into bodybuilding as a female especially?
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  And I, I know bodybuilding wasn't a sport at my school, you
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  know, type thing. And so how did you kind of like,
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  what was your childhood like? What was your inspiration to be
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  so disciplined? I know you are a lot like me as
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  well. Like you are always a high
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  achiever in school, always probably a perfectionist in all
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  areas, right. So like take us through that
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  journey of from the beginning. Sure.
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  Well, yeah, clearly, I think you and I connected instantly
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  because we say we share so many of the same personality traits,
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  characteristics. And that's what it was.
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  You know, growing up, I was an athlete all my life, just trying
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  any and every sport that I could that my parents would allow me
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  to. I grew up with two older
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  brothers, so I was constantly trying to keep up with them and
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  just being the little sister, like, you're so annoying.
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  And, you know, I had to level up in order to be allowed to kind
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  of play with them and, you know, kick the soccer ball or do
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  whatever. So I just loved being active.
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  Well, Fast forward, you know, through my life, graduated
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  college and it's like, OK, then you get into the career world.
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  Well, at that point, like fun activities, college sports, high
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  school sports, that's supposed to be in your past.
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  But for me, that was such a a release stress, joy, creative
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  outlet that I really enjoyed. And so I just started kind of
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  lifting. I hated gems at that point
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  because it was just, let's be honest, a meat market.
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  And I thought I just kind of want to work out.
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  So I started getting an endurance event.
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  So marathons, triathlons, just as a goal, but it was like it's
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  wear and tear on your body. And then of course, it's like I
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  wanted to just be fit toned and what I was doing, I wasn't, my
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  nutrition was not at all on point.
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  I didn't have that background. I was doing hours of cardio
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  because you have to train that way.
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  So I just started getting this horrible, skinny, gross body and
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  lack of muscle. And So what I thought I was
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  going after to be fit and healthy, I was not doing it the
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  right way. I didn't have proper guidance
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  from a person who could train me.
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  Nutrition was way off point. Clearly you and I have kind of
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  talked off camera a little bit. I had eating disorder, so I
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  wasn't fueling my body right. So, you know, at that point I
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  said I need to stop. I need to just do something
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  different. Well, thankfully I, you know,
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  got some help and recovered was able to put eating disorder
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  behaviors in my past and then I found out about this sport of
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  competing. Now to me, bodybuilding was like
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  that word even now is resonates with men and Arnold
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  Schwarzenegger and like the big muscles.
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  I didn't like that, but I started learning there's all
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  these other divisions. So I actually compete in the
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  fitness division where that is athletic performance based.
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  So we do have to get on stage and they judge our physique, but
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  it's kind of like a beauty pageant with muscles.
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  So you get out in a pretty bling bikini, you get all glammed up
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  and you kind of do model poses. But in my division, so we don't
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  flex it all on stage. We wear heels, jewelry like so
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  that's what I loved about it. But then I love the athletic
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  component. So 2/3 of our score in the
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  Division I compete in is based on backflips, dancing,
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  choreography. I do break dancing.
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  So you have this creative talent and literally there's so much
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  you can do within the two minutes.
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  So all of us on stage are very different.
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  We can kind of perform and bring different styles and genres to
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  the stage. So I love that And but I had no
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  background. I was not a gymnast.
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  Everything I had learned was just being a daredevil child,
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  but I loved the challenge of something that was completely
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  foreign to me. I had 0 expectations so I'm
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  getting in a sport I know nothing about.
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  I did love the aspect that you get to come out with whatever
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  music and I love high energy hype, almost like hip hop style
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  music. You could dress up in whatever
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  costume you want. And it was just this creative
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  outlet that I poured my heart and soul into because life is
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  hard. There's so many things that were
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  thrown at me, you know, post 30 that's like life was just heavy.
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  And so this was an outlet that I could control.
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  I could control if I went to the gym and spent an hour, you know,
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  working on new techniques and skills and flips and tricks, not
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  just going to the gym and lifting.
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  And it was something I could control where each day I could
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  feel accomplished and proud of. Where then you go home and you
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  have life, career and all these things that are just hard that
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  you have 0 control over. And naturally as humans, we need
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  an aspect to control our life. And of course, that's something
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  that is a reason why people have eating disorders, right?
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  Especially a lot of women. So try and have a positive
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  outlet to deal with the heaviness of life and all the
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  responsibilities allowed me this with this sport where I could be
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  excited about something and expressive and, you know, work
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  out some of the stress or anxieties of the days.
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  And that's what really kind of made me just gravitate towards
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  it. So I loved it with 0
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  expectations. And then I actually just started
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  kind of doing well and thought, Oh my gosh, now what do I do?
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  I'm a pro athlete, you know, then it became qualify for the
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  Olympia and I thought, oh gosh, this will never happen.
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  And then it did. And then I thought, gosh, this
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  is 1 and done. I'll never qualify again.
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  And then, you know, a couple years through, I ended up
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  winning it. It was like, what is happening?
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  But you know, I always feel if you do things for the right
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  reasons, with the right purpose and you have passion behind it,
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  things will work out. And again, I was not there to
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  win. I wanted to win on my own terms.
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  And no, I gave my prep and my weeks of preparation, heading to
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  the stage, everything so that when I stepped on stage, before
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  I hit the stage, I could validate did I win or not.
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  And it was up to me now if I got a trophy or not.
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  Icing on the cake. Cool, but at the end of the day
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  I know did I give it my all towards the goal I set and IA
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  100% attribute my success in the sport to that fact that it
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  wasn't outcome driven, it was effort given and like whatever I
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  put in I would get out. But your expectations have to be
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  realistic so that you can go. Did I give it my all?
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  What? What outcome should I expect?
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  But I do, I've loved this sport. It's been amazing to have
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  different opportunities and platforms.
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  And again, after the first year I won the Olympia learning I was
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  the first mom. I thought, this is crazy, but
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  most of the women I'm competing against are in their 20s.
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  And here I got started in this sport at 34.
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  Oh my gosh. I was way.
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  I thought you were 34. Oh gosh.
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  No, I'm 47, so you know, I'm like age is just a number and I
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  think that's great. I think it's neat to go, gosh,
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  you know, I can hold my own against these 20 year olds and
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  then I can obviously continued to age.
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  I won my first Olympia at 41. So it's like, gosh, this is, you
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  know, you can achieve so much if you truly put your mind to it
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  and you have belief in yourself. But that's where I feel like a
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  lot of people struggle. They want to believe in
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  themselves, but they don't take that that opportunity to go,
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  what if I did? And at that point, that's where
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  you truly can achieve success. Thank you so much for sharing
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  that. That's so awesome.
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  I love when I any moment where I get goosebumps.
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  I was like, that was one of them, but thank you.
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  So were you you what were you doing for a career?
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  Like were you just you were you intending to make turn this into
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  a career or was it just a, a hobby passion that you were kind
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  of escaping your your career and the other stuff at home?
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  And and then did you ever shift? Like when did you make that
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  shift into I, I guess let me back up to do compete at the
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  level you competed. It's a big a lot amount of time,
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  but were you still working at the same time?
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  So prior to getting into this I worked for an ad agency so I've
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  worked in different industries. But what actually happened?
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  I was pregnant with my second child and there was some
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  complications so I was put on bed rest for 3 1/2 months and
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  you know my personality, but I don't sit still.
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  So it was a very eye opening experience to go through.
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  Now obviously with pregnancy, you know it's temporary and
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  there was a a reward at the end. You have a beautiful child who's
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  born based on you trying to do everything you can to be healthy
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  during those times. But I was only allowed to get
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  out of my bed like I was strict bed rest.
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  I couldn't even sit up straight. I had to lay flat like it was,
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  it was crazy because I was constantly having contractions.
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  So in order to keep the baby safe and and try to take my
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  pregnancy as long as I could to term, it was do nothing.
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  So, you know, going back and forth to doctors because I was
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  in and out of the hospital for the 3 1/2 months driving to the
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  hospital, I would just see, you know, people walking through the
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  neighborhood or going for a run and it physically affected me to
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  go. It is crazy how so many people
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  take the ability to be active for granted.
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  And it's so crazy because I get so emotional.
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  I used to cry all the time going to the hospital, going.
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  I would love to just walk right now, but I knew quit having this
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  pity party for yourself. You're going to be able to walk
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  in two months or in one month as the countdown came.
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  But after that, that's where I flipped and I said I need to do
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  a job. I need to work in an industry
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  where I can use what I've learned and really make an
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  impact. And that's what got me into
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  becoming a trainer. I was already doing it for fun
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  out of my garage, you know, outside of my normal advertising
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  job work. I'd come home, I'd train
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  friends, neighbors and, you know, put them on diets just
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  because it was always an interest of me.
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  But after I had my second child, I quit my job.
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  I went and got a job working for a just a very local, local chain
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  gym making minimum wage. So in a way it's like you just
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  left this amazing job, tons of potential and you went to go be
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  a trainer, Weird hours making no money.
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  But I just felt in my bones, I knew this was there was a
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  purpose there and I felt that I needed to, to use my passion and
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  purpose to help people understand, do not take this for
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  granted. There's people who are, you
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  know, paralyzed, disabled. They would love to have the
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  opportunity that so many of us have that we don't utilize.
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  And it just drove this fire in me that hey, I want to live,
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  breathe and walk the walk, talk the talk and help other people
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  utilize what they have right at their fingertips that they're
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  not. So, you know, that was one thing
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  that kind of got me into it. Then of course, I ended up a
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  year and a half after that had an opportunity to open up my own
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  gym. That was the first business I
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  ever owned. I'd never been a business owner
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  at that point. And I thought, this is crazy,
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  the time of year, the economy was worse.
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  But again, you just, you know, you're a business owner too.
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  There's times when you're like, I need to do this there.
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  There was a reason I'm being drawn to it.
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  So opened up my gym. And at that point, that's when I
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  really learned about this sport of competing and got me
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  interested in it. And I thought, let's just do it.
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  This is a new challenge, something besides, you know,
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  doing marathons and triathlons. Again, knew nothing about the
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  industry, but I just like goals. I like any type of challenge
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  that is completely out of my wheelhouse.
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  And I got in and and loved it. And you know, the to your point,
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  having the gym as my workplace makes it pretty easy to not make
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  excuses as to why I'm not getting workouts.
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  And whereas someone who has a nine to five job, it's
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  absolutely understandable. It's not as easy to get in your
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  workouts, to get in the gym, get in a lifting session or cardio.
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  It's easier when that's my environment every single day.
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  Yeah. So I was lucky to be able to do
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  that. But I mean, plenty of my friends
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  work nine to five jobs, have crazy, stressful in like insane
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  hours that they're putting into their career.
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  And they're still doing this as a sport, as pro athletes, even
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  amateur athletes, just because they love having that goal.
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  That's so awesome. I love that you just followed
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  your passion and and what not just what made sense financially
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  or what everybody else told you to do, right.
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  And yeah. Crazy risk.
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  I thought, what I mean, literally, there were times
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  getting my first paycheck, I went, Oh my gosh, what, what
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  have I done? You know, you go to college,
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  you're going to get this great job, which I was very grateful I
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  had and very fortunate and left it all to go do this.
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  I thought, I really hope this pans out.
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  Yeah, I remember leaving my Kush corporate, you know, engineering
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  job for Caterpillar and went off and started my own business.
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  Yeah. And I'm like the same thing.
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  Everybody's what did you do? But yeah, you just, you find a
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  way and you can't when you're doing something that you know is
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  not aligned with your integrity of what you want, there's no
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  amount of money that can make you do it, at least for for me,
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  so. 100% and your joy day-to-day like that's where advert.
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  I loved that job, but I wanted to make a a true impact in a
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  person's life, whether it was 100 thousands, but to know I
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  truly improved their way of life, their livelihood, helped
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  create add years to their life because they're now healthier,
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  you know, so things like that, helping teach people proper
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  nutrition, how to implement exercise in your life when you
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  are crazy busy. You know, I was a single mom.
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  So trying to balance two kids, opening businesses, trying to
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  compete to be a world champion. It's like never would I have
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  ever thought those things, but when I'm there trying to show
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  other women, you can do this, it then goes back to your own head
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  to go, I need to walk the walk and talk the talk.
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  So if I want to achieve these things, find a way.
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  There is always a way. And sometimes you need that
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  guidance and support so that not only are we serving others, but
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  we're also serving ourselves. Because if we're not healthy,
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  happy, and and kind of putting that energy and vibe out to
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  others, it doesn't matter what we do or what we give to them.
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  We have to be able to take care of ourselves first and foremost.
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  So I want to go back because I know I've struggled from eating
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  disorders, with eating disorders for many, many years.
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  And, you know, I, we didn't have a lot of money growing up.
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  So we ate very poor diets obviously weren't taught in
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  school how we should be eating. And the country poisons us with
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  horrible food, processed food and everything.
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  And so I was always a chubby kid and I was always made fun for
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  being a chubby kid, particularly under my own roof by my brothers
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  and stuff. And so by my my one brother
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  particularly. But when I hit high school and
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  social media became a thing and then other girls, I started
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  seeing other girls and being around that environment, that's
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  when I really started dieting. And then I got the positive
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  feedback from everyone, like, Oh, you're looking so good,
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  you're losing weight and all this stuff.
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  And then I just became an extremist with that.
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  And it turned into losing 40 lbs.
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  I was, you know, 95 lbs at my lowest and I'm 5 foot 7
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  approximately. And and then my and I still
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  thought I was very fat. Like I was so insecure.
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  You wouldn't see me in a bathing suit ever.
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  I, I would cry on the scale like really bad mental issues, but
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  that and it caused me to isolate.
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  So I wouldn't go to parties like with any food there.
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  I wouldn't go to dinners or lunches, I wouldn't go to lunch
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  at school and all these things. And so it was a very my
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  struggles with eating. Disorders have been the most
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  isolating and difficult thing for me in my whole life and the
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  hardest for me. Like I'm disciplined in every
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  area of my life, right? And it's always been the hardest
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  and it's been such a like shameful thing for me.
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  Like why can't I control this? Or why am I just this this way?
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  And it's like shouldn't be this hard and type of thing.
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  But that turned into a sleep eating disorder because I was so
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  hungry. My body was like, I'm forcing
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  you to eat and then I would start sleepwalking and eating
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  and gaining a lot of weight. And then that just turned into
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  binge eating in general, which I've struggled, I still struggle
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  to do today. I actually have a, an eating
• 20:40
  coach and so a lot of what she's taught me is like the whole
• 20:43
  reason the binge eating developed was because the
• 20:46
  scarcity mindset because you kept telling yourself, I can't
• 20:49
  have this or I'll start another diet tomorrow or I'm going to
• 20:52
  fast for a week or all these crazy things I would do, which
• 20:56
  causes your brain to want it more and it becomes not a
• 20:59
  logical decision. It's like it's like survival,
• 21:02
  fight or flight. So as a professional athlete,
• 21:08
  obviously, especially I know some people that compete in just
• 21:10
  bodybuilding competitions or fitness competitions and there's
• 21:13
  a severe restriction of food. It's like close to the
• 21:17
  competition and things like that.
• 21:18
  And just like insane discipline. I mean, I don't even know what
• 21:21
  your body fat is, but I can see every vein in your body.
• 21:23
  So I'm sure it's super low. Like how have you, what was your
• 21:27
  story of your eating disorders, if you don't mind?
• 21:30
  Sure. What's what even started that?
• 21:32
  Because for me, it was being made fun of so much for being
• 21:35
  chubby. And then what did that kind of
• 21:39
  look like for you? And then how did that transition
• 21:42
  as you got into fitness and especially professional fitness?
• 21:47
  How has that shifted and transitioned for you throughout
• 21:49
  that journey? And has it helped or hurt the
• 21:52
  the the issues in the relationship with food?
• 21:54
  I mean, these are all great questions.
• 21:56
  And the biggest thing is, you know, it's, it's sadly so
• 21:59
  common, it happens. And even more so because social
• 22:02
  media, everyone just puts this perfection and image and then
• 22:07
  there's filters and there's Photoshop.
• 22:08
  So you don't even know what you're saying is real or not.
• 22:11
  And especially for younger minds who aren't looking at it, you
• 22:15
  know, the way adults are or the way we really should and going,
• 22:20
  that's not real. So sadly, it's very common for
• 22:24
  me randomly, you know, again, I'm used to seeing all this in
• 22:28
  the magazines or whatever. I was never fazed by it.
• 22:31
  My disorder with eating started at performance base.
• 22:35
  So I was in high school. I was a track athlete.
• 22:38
  I had like the stomach fluid been going around.
• 22:40
  My family had had it, it was right before one of my mates
• 22:43
  and, you know, they were lining up in the blocks and I thought,
• 22:46
  Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm going to throw up.
• 22:48
  Oh, this is not good. I got to get down in the blocks
• 22:51
  and I ran off to the site and just threw up.
• 22:54
  And I was like, Oh my gosh. But I felt better.
• 22:56
  And they're like, called me Whitney.
• 22:58
  Do I get in the blocks? OK, Boom.
• 23:01
  Had the PR Best time of my life. And of course, in my brain, I
• 23:05
  attribute it to I just emptied my body and I was lighter.
• 23:11
  So how else do you say, oh, that was the best race, the best time
• 23:14
  I'd ever had in my hurdle event. So that's what started it.
• 23:18
  So it became performance based. Now, granted that never happens
• 23:22
  again, right Then when you're you're going with the same
• 23:25
  strategy. I never had that same time, even
• 23:27
  though I was going and making myself throw up.
• 23:30
  Well, then you have all this information of this is what
• 23:34
  people do to stay skinny so that as a female, we are naturally
• 23:39
  just that's something that makes us feel good.
• 23:41
  We need that validity to be like, oh, wow, I'm pretty what?
• 23:45
  So that's what then started it because you get the positive
• 23:48
  reinforcement to go OK, well I can just continue this eating
• 23:52
  disorder and that way I'll never gain weight.
• 23:55
  It didn't work out well for me because as an athlete I was
• 23:58
  pushing so hard and with performance based stuff you have
• 24:02
  to eat. So mine started out as like
• 24:06
  bulimia. Then I went into, OK, I'm going
• 24:09
  to starve myself, which didn't work out because then, you know,
• 24:13
  I cheered in high school. My eating disorder continued
• 24:16
  through college. So I cheered and also danced in
• 24:19
  college and I would pass out before games.
• 24:23
  I passed out at games because I was starving myself.
• 24:26
  So then I realized I needed to eat.
• 24:28
  Then it went back to bulimia, binge eating, and I was the
• 24:33
  highest weight I'd ever been. You know, just as you puff up
• 24:37
  and your buddy, your buddies going through craziness.
• 24:40
  So at a certain point I had started my parents really kind
• 24:44
  of interviewing. They're like, this isn't good.
• 24:46
  They knew they were trying to encourage me to go the right
• 24:49
  route and I couldn't stop and it's like I kept going.
• 24:53
  I can be so successful in so many things.
• 24:56
  I got this. I can get it under control.
• 24:59
  Sadly, when things get so bad, you can't and you need to work
• 25:03
  with professionals to kind of retrain your brain and flip the
• 25:07
  script so that you can become healthier with the habits and
• 25:10
  continue on. But as you know, when you're in
• 25:13
  those those crazy mental states, you think there's no way you
• 25:17
  could live happy without having the seeding disorder.
• 25:20
  There's just no other way. Or your brain goes, OK, fine,
• 25:23
  I'm going to stop having an eating disorder and I'm going to
• 25:25
  look horrible and I'm going to be so fat.
• 25:28
  And that sounds like death to you.
• 25:30
  So it totally screws up your mind.
• 25:32
  And you do, you know, a lot of people who think they can do it
• 25:36
  on their own, That's a, that's a scary line to walk because
• 25:40
  sometimes it just gets worse and worse.
• 25:42
  So if you can find professionals to help you, there is hope.
• 25:46
  And you know, I was fortunate. I finally, I did work with a
• 25:50
  great counselor who helped get me through that.
• 25:54
  And by the grace of God, I never went back.
• 25:58
  And that was, you know, early 20s was when it was done.
• 26:01
  And I've never turned back, but I went through many years of
• 26:06
  going wow, I can't eat a carb without physically inflating my
• 26:11
  body just was not able to acclimate to a normal diet.
• 26:16
  Mm hmm. And so it what it boiled down to
• 26:19
  for me was I had to be consistent for so long trying to
• 26:23
  eat healthy. With the whole scarcity mindset,
• 26:26
  everything is anything you're told you can't have, that's all
• 26:29
  you can focus on. So I needed to ease myself into
• 26:33
  giving myself some grace to go, OK, let's eat healthy and still
• 26:38
  have some fun. That is a mindset I still to
• 26:41
  this day do daily. That is the way I coach my
• 26:44
  clients. It's the philosophy I did as an
• 26:46
  athlete, even going into my prep.
• 26:49
  So yes, you have to be very specific with what you're
• 26:52
  eating. I'm in a sport where they judge
• 26:55
  your physique and you have to get lean and tight.
• 26:58
  But I will say I have the most efficient metabolism now that
• 27:03
  I've ever had. It continues to get better with
• 27:06
  each and every year. So again, I said I'm 47, My
• 27:09
  eating disorder ended in my early 20s.
• 27:12
  I have gotten better every single year by just being
• 27:16
  consistent, not being restrictive, not doing crazy fad
• 27:20
  diets. It's literally the basics of
• 27:24
  eating healthy, you know, having a good balance of stuff.
• 27:27
  I have cheap meals. I'll go out and have drinks.
• 27:30
  I love sugar, but I also don't go absolutely crazy overboard.
• 27:37
  The one thing is with as much as I train or lifting, you can time
• 27:41
  certain things. Like I like I said, I love
• 27:43
  sugar. So you can have that
• 27:46
  specifically around certain training times or you know, if
• 27:49
  it's been a crazy hard day, you have to replenish it.
• 27:53
  So really kind of finding the foods that you love, not putting
• 27:57
  massive limitations on it. And then you start finding, Oh,
• 28:01
  Hannah, you can have these treats.
• 28:04
  Well, once you're told you can have it, your mind starts going,
• 28:07
  I don't really want it, but it's being told you can't.
• 28:11
  And I think, too, with women, there's so much, especially very
• 28:16
  successful, highly influential women.
• 28:20
  Naturally, we don't like to be told we can't because it becomes
• 28:23
  our nature to go, I'm going to prove you wrong.
• 28:25
  I can't. So something as simple as, oh,
• 28:28
  if you want to be fit, healthy, you can't have these things that
• 28:31
  doesn't, like, register in our heads.
• 28:33
  So then it becomes an obsession. And that's the problem.
• 28:36
  Once we're given freedom to think clearly for ourselves and
• 28:41
  make wise choices, yeah. It doesn't happen overnight, but
• 28:44
  those patterns become so easy. Yeah, but it's it's doing it the
• 28:49
  right way and getting your body to re acclimate to its new norm.
• 28:55
  And it is absolutely possible. I mean, I eat Donuts all the
• 28:58
  time, even when I'm in prep for a competition.
• 29:01
  And people think how it's because I don't do crazy
• 29:05
  restrictions and I'm very conscious of what my, you know,
• 29:09
  how much food I'm taking in. I don't track macros anymore.
• 29:12
  People think I have this very set diet.
• 29:14
  I know my body so well because I chosen to really dive in deep to
• 29:19
  it. And the truth is, it's not that
• 29:21
  difficult. You know?
• 29:23
  Granted, this is what I do for a living, but I started doing this
• 29:26
  before I was a trainer. So I got started in the industry
• 29:30
  when I was 34. So between ending my eating
• 29:33
  disorder in my early 20s to 34, I was still pouring my head into
• 29:39
  wrapping around how can I get a better relationship with food so
• 29:42
  I can continue to be on the right path and never
• 29:46
  backtracking into the singing disorder?
• 29:48
  And then how can I have a good metabolism so that I'm not
• 29:52
  constantly having to be so careful about what I eat?
• 29:56
  And once you Start learning about your body and what works
• 29:59
  because everyone is different, there is no black and white,
• 30:02
  What works for you is going to work for me and work with
• 30:05
  everyone is different. So it's a matter of really fine
• 30:08
  training. What is it that's going to work
• 30:10
  best for you and fueling your body to do so?
• 30:14
  And then again, being an athlete, I have to properly fuel
• 30:18
  my body. I can't do a 2 minute routine of
• 30:21
  dancing, flipping, you know, plyometric push ups without
• 30:25
  proper fuel. So food became the resource to
• 30:29
  power my performance versus something that had this negative
• 30:33
  connotation to it. It became this is going to make
• 30:36
  me a better athlete. This is going to fuel me to have
• 30:39
  the energy and the cognitive clarity to be sharp when I need
• 30:42
  to in a meeting, and to have the energy to chase my kids around
• 30:46
  on the playground. So food became a different
• 30:49
  purpose in my mind, in my body, and for me as a whole than it
• 30:54
  ever had when I was younger. Yeah, I think that's great.
• 30:57
  And that's what my coach explains to because I was
• 30:59
  talking to her this morning on our weekly call and I'm like,
• 31:02
  you know, some people, though, are so disciplined and they
• 31:04
  don't binge eat because they can't.
• 31:05
  They're not having it. She's like, but it's a different
• 31:08
  motivation. Yeah.
• 31:09
  She's like, they're their motivation and their addiction
• 31:12
  is the the sport or the performance or the the result.
• 31:16
  And so this becomes something to fuel a different thing.
• 31:20
  Their motivation is not the food that they're giving out because
• 31:22
  they're not giving up anything. Yeah, they're choosing, you
• 31:24
  know, and it's just like, she's like, same with me being vegan.
• 31:27
  It's not people like wasn't that restrictive.
• 31:28
  She's like, no, I hate eating meat.
• 31:31
  It's so it's like, I would have, you know, I'm not giving
• 31:34
  anything up. This is, I'm moving towards
• 31:37
  pleasure and the brain wants to move towards more pleasure.
• 31:41
  And so I'm working on that still too.
• 31:42
  And I'm like, well, I get the most, I get more pleasure out of
• 31:45
  food than anything else, like the food and, and like business
• 31:48
  and making money and things like that.
• 31:50
  But it's, it's interesting, just that mindset shift and that
• 31:54
  balance of not putting so many restrictions and things into
• 31:59
  place. So I'm, I'm trying to be
• 32:01
  cautious. But then it's, you know, 'cause
• 32:03
  part of my healing or recovery or getting a better relationship
• 32:06
  with food is not putting restriction, like not dieting,
• 32:09
  not weighing myself, not putting restrictions on food.
• 32:12
  But then I'm like, OK, well now I can just eat anything and I
• 32:14
  just want to, I'm just going to eat it all.
• 32:16
  So like finding that balance. And yeah, it's.
• 32:19
  And it's not easy. And let's be honest, like when
• 32:21
  when you have that pattern or you've gone through something
• 32:23
  like that, it's almost like people say, oh, if you're an
• 32:27
  addict, you're addicted to one thing, you go to the next.
• 32:29
  And so people have always asked, who are you now?
• 32:32
  Now that you aren't having an issue with an eating disorder,
• 32:35
  Is your disorder the sport? Totally fair question.
• 32:39
  So I am in the belief that you can't just completely get rid of
• 32:44
  something like that and not have any side effect.
• 32:47
  I still am human. There are times that I will go
• 32:50
  and I'll step on the scale and I'm like, oh, wow, OK, I
• 32:53
  probably need to rein it in a little bit.
• 32:55
  But I've found a way to make a joke out of it.
• 32:57
  Like how many mornings I can't even tell you?
• 33:00
  Do I sit and look at the scale? And I'm like, well, whatever,
• 33:03
  you know. And it's like you have to find a
• 33:06
  way where it doesn't sabotage your entire day.
• 33:08
  You wake up, you're feeling amazing.
• 33:10
  You're gonna have a great day. You have all these great plans,
• 33:12
  and the scale ruins it. That was a normal thing for me.
• 33:16
  So you have to find a way to be like, if if I was a little bit
• 33:20
  weary that it might not give me a good number.
• 33:22
  Don't get on the scale. You know, for years I got rid of
• 33:25
  the scale. I'm like, I don't want to know,
• 33:27
  you know, Or the jeans that fit a little tight, I'm like, I'm
• 33:30
  throwing them out right now. Yeah, those damn jeans, you
• 33:33
  know, whatever it is, it's a trigger.
• 33:35
  Identify those triggers. Get rid of them.
• 33:38
  And a lot of times when you get rid of this constant obsession
• 33:41
  or the things that are the triggers, it makes it easier.
• 33:44
  It's simple things that I tell people.
• 33:46
  Don't buy the foods that are those catalysts that really kind
• 33:49
  of sabotage your your progress. But it is common in the sport.
• 33:55
  The sport itself is a very good healing ground for people who've
• 33:59
  had an eating disorder. There's a lot of athletes in our
• 34:01
  sport who went through it. You also have the other side
• 34:04
  where and to be honest, a lot of it's bad coaching.
• 34:08
  They diet so hard, extreme low calories, excessive cardio
• 34:13
  that's hard. Your body will always take a
• 34:15
  toll and then the competitions over if they don't reverse diet,
• 34:20
  which means you slowly, you know, you get down to a lower
• 34:23
  body fat, lower weight, you got to go back out just at the same
• 34:25
  pace. That's hard to do when you don't
• 34:27
  have a goal like that and you've been deprived of all these
• 34:31
  foods. So you see people shoot off the
• 34:32
  other end. So it's really about having the
• 34:35
  proper mindset and going in. And if you have to restrict way
• 34:39
  too much to go into any type event, activity, sport, you got
• 34:45
  to stop. You've got to be able to call
• 34:46
  yourself out on and say this is setting me up for failure
• 34:49
  because it will. Yep, because your body will say
• 34:51
  no eventually and then you're in another mess and I'm having to
• 34:54
  rewire your brain and your habits and everything.
• 34:57
  So with like so many of the trending diets like keto or
• 35:01
  intermittent fasting or, you know, vegan diets or anything
• 35:06
  like that, what is your advice to people who are trying to
• 35:09
  build a healthy relationship with food and like, you know, be
• 35:13
  healthy and fit? Because we want to look good.
• 35:17
  Like I want to be thin and look good in a healthy way, but I
• 35:20
  don't want to have a, a negative consequence to that either.
• 35:24
  It's like, what's your advice on diets and finding a way to eat
• 35:28
  healthy that is right for you and that's going to get you the
• 35:31
  results that you would like? Well, it's so it's funny because
• 35:35
  a lot of times people are expecting this like grandiose
• 35:37
  answer IA 100% know from myself as well as you know, I've been
• 35:42
  doing this for almost 20 years now of actually like doing diet.
• 35:46
  It's in coaching people. And then of course, as a
• 35:49
  certified professional, not quite as many, but at least 15
• 35:53
  now. And the answer is the basics.
• 35:56
  So first question I'll always ask people, what diets have you
• 36:00
  tried? What are you currently doing?
• 36:02
  And oh, by the way, which foods do you like?
• 36:04
  Those are three simple things that will tell you everything.
• 36:07
  Now, everyone has probably tried at least one crazy fad diet, if
• 36:10
  not 30-40, some crazy stuff. Everyone wants that quick fix.
• 36:14
  It's all marketing and anything where there is restrictions is
• 36:18
  never something you can maintain.
• 36:20
  That is the God's honest truth. And you know, so there's all
• 36:24
  these trends. Intermittent fasting was big
• 36:26
  again. It, it kind of goes in these
• 36:28
  ebbs and flows of coming back and popular.
• 36:31
  It's kind of going back out again.
• 36:33
  Now, everyone is different. So if that works for you, I
• 36:38
  would never be one to say Nope, that's bad philosophy.
• 36:40
  It doesn't work. My question would be how, what
• 36:44
  is the maintenance plan? Like if you're doing this to get
• 36:47
  to a certain goal, whether it's lose weight, gain weight,
• 36:49
  whatever, what is your maintenance plan and is it
• 36:52
  realistic? So for a lot of women, something
• 36:54
  like that is not realistic. So we're going, going, going and
• 36:58
  you're driving and all the sudden you have this meeting and
• 37:00
  you're like, I'm supposed to be fasting, but I feel woozy.
• 37:04
  If you eat a protein bar or anything, few grapes.
• 37:09
  Now, did you just break the rules of intermittent fasting?
• 37:11
  Now you're upset at yourself. You just sabotage things.
• 37:15
  But yet you do have to still have a career and a job and
• 37:17
  function and be smart and you have energy.
• 37:21
  So sometimes these crazy restrictive things aren't the
• 37:24
  way to go. And then what happens when you
• 37:26
  reach your goal? Now it's a fun weekend trip with
• 37:29
  the girls and they're all gonna go out for brunch.
• 37:31
  Are you gonna sit there and not eat?
• 37:33
  So there's certain things that lifestyle isn't normal.
• 37:37
  Or, you know, people who do the no carb diet.
• 37:39
  Atkins was huge for a while. That was the first thing I did,
• 37:43
  yeah. And when I was like 14, I think
• 37:48
  I started, I started with just starting to eat fruit.
• 37:51
  I never had fruit. So I started eating more fruit.
• 37:54
  I lost some weight and then I started doing no carb.
• 37:57
  And then I lost a lot of weight. And then I didn't eat a carb for
• 37:59
  like four years. Well, then it was like, OK, I
• 38:03
  eat no carbs, I'm plateauing. And then it was, I'm going to
• 38:06
  lower my calories. And then I started eating
• 38:08
  literally just lettuce and carrots for years.
• 38:11
  Yeah. And I've just I'd my skin turn
• 38:13
  yellow. Yeah, like orange.
• 38:14
  Yeah. And that's the thing that most
• 38:16
  people don't realize. Like with eating disorders,
• 38:18
  you're doing it for vanity, right?
• 38:20
  You want to be skinny? Well, then your hair's falling
• 38:23
  out and your skin looks awful. You look like you're a drug
• 38:26
  addict. Your teeth are so like all these
• 38:28
  things that make you look hideous or caused by an eating
• 38:32
  disorder, yet we're creating and we're following these rules of
• 38:35
  an Indian disorder because we want to be pretty and accepted
• 38:38
  and look like the model on the magazine.
• 38:40
  But no one talks about what actually happens when you have a
• 38:43
  true eating disorder and shows you a picture of that.
• 38:47
  Like that resonates deeper than seeing, oh, if I do this, I'll
• 38:52
  get this. That's not reality.
• 38:54
  So, you know, it is unfortunate, but again, it's not something
• 38:58
  people can maintain. So my philosophy is if you ever
• 39:01
  have to completely restrict something that's not given to
• 39:06
  you by a doctor to follow for a health condition, it's not going
• 39:10
  to be something that you can sustain.
• 39:11
  So what is your Plan B? And if you don't have a Plan B,
• 39:15
  which I would challenge the Plan B, then don't even try because
• 39:20
  the progress you make. A lot of people who did the
• 39:22
  Atkin dance say they lost 20 lbs as soon as they stopped and it
• 39:26
  may maybe they lost 20 lbs. In three months, they would have
• 39:30
  lost the 20 lbs. Three months later, they're up
• 39:33
  to 3035. So they gain the weight back and
• 39:36
  more. And it's like, wow.
• 39:39
  So why even waste the time going down a path that's not
• 39:42
  sustainable? So it's a matter of really fine,
• 39:45
  OK, what are the foods you like? What are the foods you don't
• 39:47
  like? Now let's work together a meal
• 39:50
  plan that is something that you have, foods that you love.
• 39:54
  Let's figure out where to get these foods that aren't as
• 39:56
  healthy in your daily plans. You can still have them and you
• 40:00
  don't feel restricted. But yet you're still being
• 40:03
  accountable to yourself. And more importantly, let's give
• 40:05
  options. Because if it's black and white,
• 40:08
  eat chicken and broccoli every meal, at some point you're going
• 40:11
  to like, screw this. Or especially for business
• 40:14
  professionals, you go out to a luncheon.
• 40:16
  What are you going to do? Not eat?
• 40:18
  Or that almost creates more questions or you bust out your
• 40:21
  Tupperware. You have to still kind of be
• 40:24
  normal. What if you're single and you're
• 40:26
  going on a date? Guarantee the guy is going to be
• 40:29
  like, all right, one and done. I'm not going to a weirdo who
• 40:33
  just stares at me the entire time because they can't eat.
• 40:36
  Like that's not fun. So it's really just trying to
• 40:39
  find what foods do you like? What foods do you not like?
• 40:42
  Let's create a plan that's going to work for you.
• 40:44
  Yeah, I think that's good. And and do you recommend like
• 40:49
  sticking to macros and things? I mean, as flexible as you can
• 40:53
  be, you think that that's the best way to to have a well
• 40:55
  balanced carbs and fats and proteins and.
• 40:58
  I do because that's the thing. Like you need proteins, fats and
• 41:01
  carbs. If you aren't getting any of it,
• 41:03
  like the carbs, think of carbs as your energy source, proteins
• 41:07
  think of that as your muscle source and kind of toning up
• 41:10
  fats help with your cognitive level and also with the energy.
• 41:13
  So that's a very basic, you know, like kind of Cliff note
• 41:18
  version of what macros are. But I like that because it gives
• 41:22
  options and it gives flexibility.
• 41:24
  And for busy people, we need to be able to like work within the
• 41:29
  chaos of a day. So just really kind of learning
• 41:32
  to be conscious of making healthier choices.
• 41:35
  When you go out to a luncheon and you're ordering, there are
• 41:39
  healthy things you can get, maybe not as exciting, but you
• 41:42
  can get chicken Alfredo or you can get a grilled chicken breast
• 41:46
  with some, you know, maybe some grilled potatoes and then some
• 41:50
  asparagus. And it's still going to be
• 41:52
  great. That's a great meal.
• 41:54
  So it's just being more conscious of what you eat and
• 41:57
  being able to go, OK, that wasn't what I planned to have
• 41:59
  today, but I didn't totally, completely derail myself.
• 42:03
  And women typically always will function better on macro based
• 42:08
  plans than anything that's very strict and rigid.
• 42:12
  Men can follow that stuff better and they don't like necessarily
• 42:16
  having to think through macro based and flexible dieting or
• 42:19
  flexible eating. They're like, just tell me what
• 42:21
  to eat and I'll eat it. Women, we like to have our
• 42:24
  choices because we get tempted or we want a little taste of
• 42:27
  this and that. It's just the nature of who we
• 42:29
  are as humans. But I think macros are a great
• 42:33
  way for a long term sustainable plan that I hope you just kind
• 42:38
  of be more conscious and aware of.
• 42:40
  Oh, like, I mean, how many times have we looked at something
• 42:42
  where like, oh, I had no idea that was so full of fat or
• 42:46
  whatever. I thought it was eating healthy.
• 42:48
  So it's more of an A constant education aspect of approaching
• 42:52
  the way you eat. I went to maybe Cracker Barrel
• 42:56
  one. Time or.
• 42:57
  Something in one of those restaurants and they had
• 42:59
  calories on the menus. There was a bowl of a loaded
• 43:04
  baked potato soup and I can't remember the exact number but
• 43:08
  I'm pretty sure it was like 7600 calories.
• 43:13
  Oh wow. And it was just a bowl of soup.
• 43:16
  And I'm like, I would have thought that the soup was the
• 43:18
  healthier option. Totally and I'm.
• 43:20
  Like you guys are legally allowed to serve a meal that
• 43:24
  will gain make someone gain 2 lbs of literal fat on their body
• 43:27
  by the time they leave dinner? Yeah, just one meal.
• 43:30
  One meal. Yeah.
• 43:31
  And so it is scary, especially because a lot of places don't
• 43:33
  show the calories and you really don't know.
• 43:35
  And in our bag, it's like I eat out every meal.
• 43:38
  I have a protein shake at home in the morning, you know, fruit,
• 43:41
  protein, all that stuff. But for the most part, lunch and
• 43:43
  dinner, I'm out every single meal with clients or friends or
• 43:46
  whatever, building relationships.
• 43:48
  Totally. So, so there's an increasing
• 43:50
  recognition of the connection between mental health and
• 43:53
  physical fitness. How has fitness shaped your
• 43:56
  mental resilience and how do you coach others to strengthen that
• 43:59
  connection through Unstoppable 365 in your business where you
• 44:03
  really understand and tie in mental health to physical
• 44:06
  health? Great question.
• 44:09
  It goes back to honestly my own personal experience of dealing
• 44:13
  with life setbacks, hard situations, you know, losing my
• 44:17
  mother to cancer when, you know, I'm very unfortunate and kind of
• 44:22
  sudden I'm going through a divorce, these heavy things in
• 44:26
  life. And so, you know, again, in both
• 44:29
  those situations, I had two young boys and I thought, my
• 44:32
  gosh, so I'm either going to be one of those women that are a
• 44:34
  complete train wreck that it ruins the lives of these two
• 44:38
  boys who now are just kind of not great humans and don't grow
• 44:42
  up in a very safe, comfortable providing environment.
• 44:47
  So I thought, I can't do that. How do I find myself so that I
• 44:52
  don't spin out of control when I'm so sad or upset and, you
• 44:57
  know, just not knowing how to handle life.
• 45:00
  That's where I was able to go. I've got to do something
• 45:04
  productive that is better and good for me.
• 45:07
  So again, people go into drugs, alcohol, whatever's way of
• 45:10
  coping. And obviously I didn't want to
• 45:13
  do that again. My whole point was I need to
• 45:15
  stay sane and solid and it be a good stable foundation for my
• 45:19
  boys. So that's where I poured into
• 45:22
  exercise and you learn a lot because it's not the people want
• 45:27
  to be congratulated and given the rah rah when they do
• 45:31
  something good and in front of others.
• 45:34
  What are you doing, though, when no one's watching?
• 45:36
  And that's where you really learn so much about yourself.
• 45:39
  And so getting up early in the morning and just going for a
• 45:43
  walk around my neighborhood before I got my day going, you
• 45:47
  know, if I didn't have my boys and I could just get up and do
• 45:49
  some stuff for me or, you know, having them sitting in front of
• 45:53
  the TV while I'm cooking dinner and I'm doing squats, you know,
• 45:56
  while I'm doing something. It's just being active and
• 46:00
  allowing yourself to feel that sense of accomplishment.
• 46:04
  So whether it's 10 minutes that you're doing it or, you know,
• 46:07
  again, you're doing it because you know, you need to, not
• 46:10
  because you want to. It's doing it because, you know,
• 46:12
  consistency and having a routine and, and really being dedicated
• 46:18
  to personal growth. That's where you really get that
• 46:22
  good sense of accomplishment. It's nice and great when you go
• 46:24
  in and do a workout because you have free time in your day and
• 46:27
  you're full of energy and you're like, yeah, I just want to go.
• 46:30
  It's the hard days where you do it and it's the last thing you
• 46:34
  want to do. And that's where you learn True
• 46:36
  Grit. And that's where mentally it
• 46:39
  will get you out of these dark places because it's doing the
• 46:42
  hard stuff during hard times that make that step forward.
• 46:47
  So mental health especially, you know, during COVID was a very
• 46:51
  tough time in our industry because people were losing jobs,
• 46:55
  people were getting sick, families were stuck at home
• 46:58
  within the walls. And they're like, I want to
• 47:00
  murder my kids and my husband. And, you know, it's just they
• 47:03
  can't cope. And so mental health went really
• 47:07
  plummeted and we're still dealing with a lot of those
• 47:10
  after effects from it. But the one good thing was
• 47:14
  people found exercise as an outlet.
• 47:16
  And it truly is one of the best, most beneficial outlets for you.
• 47:21
  When you're going through a hard time going through a dark place
• 47:24
  or in a dark place, it releases endorphins.
• 47:27
  You can sweat it out. You know, boxing, kickboxing,
• 47:31
  anything that's physically active.
• 47:33
  Sometimes punching things is a huge release.
• 47:37
  Lifting, heavyweight jumping, this anaerobic exercise or
• 47:40
  aerobic exercise where your heart is just pounding and
• 47:43
  you're pouring sweat. There is a release in you that
• 47:47
  feels that sense of empowerment, accomplishment because you chose
• 47:51
  to do it. And that is one thing.
• 47:53
  So anyone that is even just trying to say, oh, go do a
• 47:58
  kickboxing class when you're having a a very hard day or
• 48:01
  you're in the depths of depression, way easier said than
• 48:04
  done, but saying so walk around your block and just breathe.
• 48:07
  Get out and and breathe fresh air.
• 48:10
  Get out amongst your walls. Something as simple as that can
• 48:14
  truly like propel you to take that next step forward, to go,
• 48:19
  OK, I feel like I can breathe right now.
• 48:20
  I feel like I can maybe handle the next hour, maybe not the
• 48:23
  next day, but it's really going. What can I do just to keep me
• 48:28
  from getting deeper? I need to either at least stay
• 48:31
  here. And then once you can stay
• 48:33
  stable, then you take steps to really get yourself out of that
• 48:36
  hole. But it exercises 100%.
• 48:40
  I mean, it's proven it's the way to go.
• 48:42
  And again, it goes back to control.
• 48:44
  We all need that sense of control.
• 48:46
  So what do you want to feel proud of at the end of the day?
• 48:49
  Yeah, you went to this meeting. You did this.
• 48:51
  But I went and did that workout that I didn't want to do or 15
• 48:56
  minutes while I'm watching ATV show.
• 48:58
  I'm doing high knees or dancing, whatever.
• 49:00
  There's so many things you can do to just release the
• 49:03
  endorphins and change your mood so that you can feel like you
• 49:07
  can handle life. Yeah.
• 49:09
  And for me, I resonate with that so much because I noticed a very
• 49:15
  direct correlation between my mental health and my exercise
• 49:18
  routine. Right, Yes, you know, I was so
• 49:21
  insecure and so deep into isolation and anxiety and
• 49:24
  depression and eating disorders and all these things.
• 49:27
  The last thing I could possibly do was go leave and go to the
• 49:30
  gym, you know, and, and do something like that.
• 49:32
  And I had never developed a gym practice or routine.
• 49:35
  And so I was so uncomfortable and so anxious, I couldn't even
• 49:39
  leave the house for a long time. And the one, the thing I would
• 49:42
  do here and there would be go for a walk or try to go for a
• 49:44
  jog. And I always noticed I felt
• 49:46
  better. But ultimately I got on
• 49:49
  antidepressants because I couldn't get over that, that
• 49:53
  hump. And then that the biggest bridge
• 49:56
  that those helped me, I'm not on them any longer.
• 49:58
  But the biggest was it cut the anxiety enough for me to have
• 50:01
  the confidence to get to a gym. And I, and then, you know, I, by
• 50:05
  that time I had made enough money in my businesses where I
• 50:07
  could invest in a trainer. And that was the hardest thing
• 50:09
  was to invest in myself and take the time away from the deals and
• 50:14
  the clients and all that stuff. But as soon as I started going
• 50:17
  to the gym and had a trainer because I was nervous, I'm like,
• 50:20
  I feel like, you know, I'm sticking out like a sore thumb
• 50:23
  here. And that helped me.
• 50:24
  Someone's telling me what to do. I'm, you know, here at this gym.
• 50:28
  And every time I felt so much better.
• 50:30
  And I mean, over the course of a few years of like actually
• 50:32
  starting to get into shape and be proud of my body and look in
• 50:34
  the mirror and be like, this is the first time I've ever been
• 50:37
  proud of what I'm looking at, You know, because I've been
• 50:39
  skinny and I hated it. I've been overweight and I hated
• 50:43
  it. And now I'm strong and, and then
• 50:45
  now I have the confidence to go to the gym and now I can go in
• 50:48
  there without a trainer and exercise.
• 50:49
  So I just encourage anybody listening to this, no matter
• 50:52
  where you're at in your life, like Whitney said, you start
• 50:55
  with going for a walk. Yeah, you know, in your own
• 50:57
  neighborhood and go at night when no one's around if you're
• 51:00
  in that position. But if you're struggling to get
• 51:03
  into a gym and you feel like a sore thumb, you're, you're, you
• 51:06
  know, you stick out and you don't belong there.
• 51:08
  Like, invest in yourself. Hire a trainer, you can find a
• 51:12
  way you go reach out to Unstoppable 365.
• 51:15
  They'll get you on the the nutrition plan that's actually
• 51:19
  healthy, the mental health plan, the eating plan or the workout
• 51:24
  plan and everything and just full service and it's critical.
• 51:27
  I think like that is should be the number one priority in every
• 51:31
  single person's lives because it's.
• 51:34
  It has a ripple effect. It does.
• 51:36
  And especially for women, you know, the good thing is nowadays
• 51:38
  they they're really promoting strong, powerful, especially if
• 51:42
  you have massive aspirations to be a high level achieving
• 51:46
  female, then you got to not just look the part.
• 51:49
  You could be perfectly, you know, Barbie, whatever.
• 51:52
  But if you don't have that mindset of powerful, confident
• 51:56
  woman, it's going to people will see right through you and.
• 51:59
  That affects your business and you really it affects
• 52:01
  everything. And so I know there's no way I
• 52:05
  could have ever been on camera or have a podcast if I didn't do
• 52:09
  the things to get myself in physical shape and feel good
• 52:12
  about myself. And now like no matter what I
• 52:16
  get physical activity every single day, even if it's just in
• 52:19
  any amount like. Going on 10 minutes doesn't
• 52:21
  matter. Just get out.
• 52:22
  Do it for you. Yeah, my, my coach, my eating
• 52:26
  coach I've been talking about, she says.
• 52:28
  Like a lot of people like us, Type A or overachievers are all
• 52:33
  are very all or nothing. Oh, completely.
• 52:37
  So it's like I'm either a pro fitness person or I'm of you
• 52:41
  slob on the couch and I'm never. Going.
• 52:43
  To the gym. And so she said something that
• 52:46
  helped me so much was the habit is not to the habit to put into
• 52:50
  place is not to go to the gym every day 'cause we tend to be
• 52:52
  like, well, I'm gonna lift heavier today or I'm gonna go
• 52:54
  longer today or whatever. And then you just don't go, but
• 52:57
  rather I'm gonna put my tennis shoes on every day.
• 52:59
  Yes, that's it. Yeah.
• 53:01
  I'm gonna do something active. And then, yeah.
• 53:03
  And then if you whether that's just stepping outside and
• 53:05
  walking for 10 seconds or you go to the gym for an hour or 10
• 53:10
  minutes, or you go hike the mountain for six hours and do a
• 53:13
  trip, like whatever that looks like each day is just getting
• 53:15
  the habit of putting your gym shoes on.
• 53:17
  And any amount that you feel is best for that day is do it.
• 53:21
  And so that really helped me to get the practice of every single
• 53:24
  day I'm doing something active. And it's not the pressure of I
• 53:29
  need to do more. And it's something new, you
• 53:31
  know, again, for a lot of women, it's like now Zoom meetings
• 53:34
  everywhere, right? So get a walking treadmill.
• 53:36
  And I can't tell you how many meetings I do now.
• 53:39
  I'm like, I, I do a ton of my meetings on my walking treadmill
• 53:43
  now. So many of the people that I'm
• 53:45
  on camera with, they're like, oh, I got one because of you.
• 53:47
  And people think there's no way I could walk and talk.
• 53:50
  Well, you don't have to be out of 4.0 like racing.
• 53:53
  You can walk and then if you are trying to speak and you feel a
• 53:57
  little like labored in your breathing, step to the sides.
• 54:00
  But when you're listening, you can walk then.
• 54:03
  So something as simple as that. Or stay at home moms, you know,
• 54:06
  they're like, I can't leave the kids.
• 54:08
  OK, well, make it a game. You're holding your baby and
• 54:11
  you're doing squats or, you know, jumping out.
• 54:13
  You can be active for 5-10 minutes no matter your
• 54:17
  environment. So it's a matter of people
• 54:19
  saying I can't. I'm like, bullshit.
• 54:22
  I challenge you. That's an excuse.
• 54:23
  It's an excuse that we feed our brains to make us feel better
• 54:27
  about doing nothing. And it's it's complete bullshit.
• 54:30
  I want a walking treadmill. That's a great.
• 54:32
  Idea Amazon, you'd be shocked. They're not even expensive
• 54:35
  anymore really. Yeah, it's literally folds up.
• 54:38
  They have super cheap ones. They have, Joe has several and
• 54:42
  it's several. It's like there's tons.
• 54:45
  They like I have now a full treadmill and just I have a
• 54:49
  platform that I can put my laptop on everything.
• 54:52
  They make it very usable. So even anyone on a budget,
• 54:56
  again, I'm telling you, I'm like, that's an excuse.
• 54:59
  Yep. I can't afford one.
• 55:00
  I'm like, I guarantee you can't. Yeah.
• 55:03
  I'm pretty sure I've seen some. I mean, and that's the whole
• 55:05
  thing is investing in yourself over all things else and you can
• 55:08
  find a way to make the money. To totally Yep.
• 55:12
  I know, I know. I'm already thinking of the
• 55:13
  excuse. I was like, where would I put
• 55:14
  it? Totally, it's already done.
• 55:16
  I have to move my desk. Like it's very small and I'm
• 55:20
  telling you, you will find a spot.
• 55:22
  Yeah, well, thank you. I I, I know that's a big thing
• 55:25
  Lila Hermozi does with The Walking treadmill.
• 55:28
  And I, it's genius because I love to walk and just move, but
• 55:34
  OK, cool. So let's see.
• 55:39
  OK, Burnout. So we just talked about all or
• 55:43
  nothing and burnout is a really big thing, especially for any
• 55:47
  overachiever type thing. And I'm very much an all or
• 55:49
  nothing. I'm either professional at
• 55:51
  something I'm doing or I'm know nothing about it and I'm not
• 55:54
  doing it all. So totally when I started
• 55:56
  working out, I would do those. I'm going to the gym every
• 55:58
  single day, seven days a week, an hour a time, blah, blah,
• 56:01
  blah. And then it was, I'm so burnt
• 56:02
  out. I don't want to do this anymore.
• 56:04
  And then I'm not showing up for four months, which recently
• 56:06
  happened to me and I started and then the excuses like, well, I'm
• 56:09
  traveling at conferences and my ex is at the gym, it's hot,
• 56:14
  whatever. Right?
• 56:15
  Right. So, so how?
• 56:18
  What is your strategy for balancing peak performance with
• 56:22
  rest and recovery in order to avoid burnout?
• 56:26
  So I personally from for me, I get bored way fast.
• 56:30
  So if I just had to go into the gym and lift, I would have never
• 56:34
  lasted a year. So I constantly have to change
• 56:37
  it up, whether it's, you know, something like going hiking, I'm
• 56:40
  doing going for bike rides around my neighborhood.
• 56:43
  I love that I'm now into I'm getting into martial arts, so I
• 56:47
  started taking Jiu jitsu and Muay Thai.
• 56:50
  I have to constantly be challenged and stimulated
• 56:54
  differently. And I like all of it.
• 56:57
  So, you know, if you can recruit a friend to do things with, that
• 57:00
  helps. So have a friend who likes to
• 57:02
  hike, have a friend who likes to play pickleball, have a gym
• 57:06
  friend. Or do you like to go to classes
• 57:08
  because you want to go to the gym, but you don't want to have
• 57:09
  to think about I'm going to this and go to this machine, go to a
• 57:13
  class. Do you like swimming?
• 57:15
  So there are a kazillion ways to be active.
• 57:19
  I always say the best way to get rid of burnout if you're in it
• 57:24
  or just to avoid it in general, constantly challenge yourself.
• 57:29
  Now as athletes, it's tough because it's very strict.
• 57:32
  Like if you're trying to be in a physique type competition, you
• 57:35
  have to be in the gym and you have to be lifting and it gets
• 57:38
  very boring and repetitive. But there's a goal there, so
• 57:42
  that's easier to stay on target with.
• 57:44
  But for most people, that's not livelihood.
• 57:46
  So for my regular clients who aren't trying to compete on
• 57:50
  stage, it's what do you like to do?
• 57:52
  Well, I love to dance. OK, You know what?
• 57:55
  Have you heard of those stripper classes?
• 57:57
  Those are so fun. You know, again, maybe you don't
• 58:00
  want to be a stripper. I'm not trying to tell people to
• 58:02
  go do that. But it's just like, this is,
• 58:05
  wait, what? And I have some of my tomboy
• 58:07
  girl clients. I'm like, I want you to go take
• 58:09
  a stripper class. They're like, Whitney, you are
• 58:12
  nuts. I'm like, yeah, clearly.
• 58:13
  But try it. And they have the time of their
• 58:16
  life because they're like, I look like an idiot, but there's
• 58:19
  no judgement because most of the people in that room are there
• 58:23
  going. I don't know why time here or do
• 58:25
  an aerials class. We're on those silks and aerial
• 58:28
  yoga. So there's so many different
• 58:31
  things you can do. I always tell, tell people, try
• 58:34
  something new. You may hate it, but what if you
• 58:36
  love it? What if you love it and maybe
• 58:40
  you love it for three months and you're like, I need something
• 58:42
  new. Always try things, even, you
• 58:45
  know, most gems, like for example, my Muay Thai, you could
• 58:48
  go do a month class and just try just to change it up.
• 58:52
  Kickboxing, maybe it's karate, maybe it's jump rope.
• 58:56
  So whatever it is, it's like just try something different,
• 58:59
  even if it's for one day. Because people can go to the gym
• 59:03
  and, and I'm one of those, I go to the gym, I'm like, I don't
• 59:06
  want to get on a machine and I don't want to see a dumbbell.
• 59:09
  So I'll create a circuit and just, it's no weight.
• 59:12
  Like I don't have any weights or anything.
• 59:15
  It's all body weight. I'm going to do box jumps and
• 59:17
  then I'm going to do burpees and I'm going to do jumping jacks
• 59:20
  and I'm going to do bounds. So I'll just write a circuit
• 59:23
  plan and just it's something different just because I'm like,
• 59:26
  I don't want to do the normal stuff.
• 59:29
  But that's for me personally that keeps me interested.
• 59:32
  And for so many clients, I regularly challenge them.
• 59:36
  OK, we're going to try something new.
• 59:37
  So let's brainstorm. What new thing have you thought
• 59:41
  you want to try? So just this week I had a client
• 59:43
  go maybe I'll try rock climbing. And I'm like, yes, she goes, but
• 59:47
  I'm so afraid of heights. I'm like, even better.
• 59:49
  You're going to address 2 things.
• 59:50
  You're going to face your fear. You're going to get out, you're
• 59:53
  going to be active. That's a hell of a workout.
• 59:56
  Upper body cools you. Like it's hard.
• 59:58
  She loved it. She's like, I never would have
• 1:00:01
  done it if you didn't literally call me out and push me to do
• 1:00:04
  it. And she already signed up for
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  her next one next week. So it's just these little things
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  that be like, huh. I should try something and heck,
• 1:00:13
  if if anyone's stuck, reach out to me, message me.
• 1:00:16
  I'll throw you 800 different ideas and pick one.
• 1:00:19
  But just try stuff that's that's interesting, intriguing, maybe
• 1:00:23
  completely out of your realm and you may absolutely love it.
• 1:00:28
  That's such a great idea. And it's funny that you said I'm
• 1:00:31
  I'm sitting over here laughing because I have a friend who's
• 1:00:33
  been trying to convince me go to one of those stripper dances for
• 1:00:36
  a year now. And I'm like, I cannot move my
• 1:00:39
  hips. Like no matter what amount of
• 1:00:42
  drinks I've had, what, no matter what I'm on, these hips are not
• 1:00:45
  moving like a head Bob is as most as you're going to get out
• 1:00:48
  of me. Then you got to try.
• 1:00:50
  I'm telling you, I went for the first time two years ago with
• 1:00:53
  one of my friends, and we actually had to wear heels.
• 1:00:55
  And I thought, I'm going to fully break my ankle.
• 1:00:58
  It was so awesome. And the environment there, it's
• 1:01:01
  almost always welcoming from everyone who's ever done it.
• 1:01:04
  They're like, everyone in the class is looking around like,
• 1:01:07
  you're not looking at me, right. I'm not looking at you.
• 1:01:09
  I'm staying in my own lane. And I look like a fool.
• 1:01:11
  And you just laugh. I mean, talk about an AB
• 1:01:13
  workout. It's it's hilarious.
• 1:01:16
  You got to do it at least once. Once in your life.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah, I'm not this sexy. Woo.
• 1:01:21
  But in there you're like, I feel like an idiot, but then you kind
• 1:01:25
  of think, oh, maybe I could be sexy.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah, right. You never doubt.
• 1:01:29
  She was showing me a video of her one time and she's gorgeous.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah, so sexy. Colombian.
• 1:01:36
  You wear 6 inch heels everywhere already?
• 1:01:38
  Like perfect for it. But I see the ladies in the back
• 1:01:42
  and I'm like, Oh my God. Totally.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah, that was me. I don't want to be the one on
• 1:01:46
  that video that you're showing to someone, so.
• 1:01:49
  That is so funny. Yeah, I didn't even know that
• 1:01:52
  was a thing. Yes, it's a very popular thing,
• 1:01:55
  but. So trends right now in in health
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  and fitness. So I want to get your opinion on
• 1:02:07
  all of that and what's kind of going on.
• 1:02:09
  And there's always new fads, new trends.
• 1:02:11
  And it's so hard to decipher what is good and what is, again,
• 1:02:15
  just big pharma or big food trying to just sell people on
• 1:02:19
  the next thing that's actually going to end up damaging
• 1:02:21
  everybody so much more. We have 75, I think 74 or 75% is
• 1:02:25
  the statistic of Americans. Children are overweight or
• 1:02:29
  obese. And I don't remember the
• 1:02:33
  percentage, but a lot of mental health issues, a high percentage
• 1:02:37
  of the population has mental health issues.
• 1:02:39
  A lot of percent of the population is on medications, is
• 1:02:43
  on drugs, whether they're, you know, they're, they're legal
• 1:02:46
  drugs, but they're still drugs. Totally.
• 1:02:49
  I know for me, I think at one point I was on 14 different
• 1:02:52
  medications and I don't even know if I was 20 and nobody ever
• 1:02:58
  asked how I was. How are you doing?
• 1:03:00
  Like, how is home life? How is your mental health?
• 1:03:03
  How you know it was just, oh, what's your symptom?
• 1:03:06
  Let me treat the symptom. Here's a drug.
• 1:03:07
  Well, now you have all these other problems.
• 1:03:08
  Let's treat that. Here's another drug and then
• 1:03:12
  here's the next diet. Why don't you try this diet and
• 1:03:14
  pair it with this drug? And so like right now trends are
• 1:03:20
  peptides and semi glutide. I don't know if is I don't think
• 1:03:26
  that's a peptide. Maybe it's a?
• 1:03:27
  Peptide, the whole Ozempic, all of that craziness.
• 1:03:31
  Now what's so crazy about this is obviously it is not a weight
• 1:03:36
  loss drug. It is now being coined that
• 1:03:38
  that's not what it originally was set out to be.
• 1:03:41
  Unfortunately, that is now the big push because again,
• 1:03:45
  everything goes back to the fads.
• 1:03:47
  Instant gratification. They want the fast results
• 1:03:49
  without having to do the work. Ozempic is now coming out to
• 1:03:54
  show the adverse effects of it from people who have been on it
• 1:03:58
  and what he essentially does. It's a starvation.
• 1:04:00
  So it's a doctor prescribed eating disorder because you
• 1:04:04
  cannot eat. It makes you physically sick
• 1:04:07
  people. You inject it and then you throw
• 1:04:09
  up, you're nauseous, you can't, you can't eat, you have no
• 1:04:12
  appetite. So it's a way that prevents you
• 1:04:15
  from eating, which in a way is like outside of the throwing up
• 1:04:17
  part, right? People are like, great, because
• 1:04:20
  I am hungry all the time. What people don't realize
• 1:04:24
  though, is it's eating away at your muscle.
• 1:04:27
  So again, this isn't something that, you know, people like, I
• 1:04:30
  just want to do it temporarily. OK, So what happens?
• 1:04:33
  You've dropped 20 lbs. You may have lost weight, but
• 1:04:37
  you lost your muscle. So muscle is what helps you have
• 1:04:41
  a healthy metabolism. So when you stop doing that, or
• 1:04:45
  you have a day where you eat regular, you go on a date or
• 1:04:48
  it's a your birthday or you go on vacation, you eat regularly,
• 1:04:52
  you're going to gain weight. And then it sets on this pattern
• 1:04:56
  of, OK, no one wants to be on these drugs where they throw up
• 1:04:59
  every day. Think about it, you have a job.
• 1:05:02
  I missed my meeting 'cause I was in the bathroom throwing up.
• 1:05:04
  I was so nauseous, I could not make the meeting.
• 1:05:07
  It starts affecting people's lives, so they stop it.
• 1:05:10
  Well, now they're slowly gaining all the weight back.
• 1:05:14
  They now don't have the muscle, so they are skinny fat.
• 1:05:17
  And so you're starting to see these people's bodies where they
• 1:05:20
  have the hang because they lost the weight, but they didn't lose
• 1:05:24
  the fat, they just lost muscle. Well, not everyone wants to be
• 1:05:28
  like bodybuilderish, and especially women.
• 1:05:30
  They want tight, toned bodies. So you have these toned arms,
• 1:05:34
  but all the muscle's gone. Now you just have flabby arms.
• 1:05:37
  You can't change that, you can't undo that.
• 1:05:42
  The amount of time it's going to take to so quickly put that
• 1:05:46
  muscle back on is years where you lost it so fast from this
• 1:05:50
  drug. And but no one wants to think
• 1:05:53
  about down the road whether it's two months down the road, a
• 1:05:57
  year, five years. So they're starting to now have
• 1:06:01
  a lot of people come out and be vocal about this is what happens
• 1:06:05
  when you are taking Ozempic to lose weight.
• 1:06:08
  It's a quick instant fix to lose weight.
• 1:06:11
  You pay for it in the long term. And so again, it always goes
• 1:06:16
  back to if it sounds too good to be true, it 100% is.
• 1:06:20
  And if that was a healthy way to do it, it probably wouldn't be
• 1:06:24
  promoted and marketed so well. There's not money in the basics.
• 1:06:29
  Doctors, big pharma, the industries that are all all
• 1:06:34
  about health and fitness, they aren't supported by, hey, why
• 1:06:38
  don't you just eat right and stay active?
• 1:06:41
  That's not a money making. And as a personal choice, you
• 1:06:44
  can go and do that without needing anything.
• 1:06:47
  So that's what people have to be conscious of.
• 1:06:50
  They have to be a realistic. I am 100% not a fan of Ozempic.
• 1:06:56
  There are, again, for certain medical conditions, medically
• 1:06:59
  necessary. Great, if you have a Doctor Who
• 1:07:02
  is telling you you have to to do this not for weight loss but
• 1:07:06
  because of medical issues, fine, totally get it.
• 1:07:09
  Would never bat an eye at that. But when people are specifically
• 1:07:13
  taking it because they need it and want it to lose weight, you
• 1:07:16
  are shooting yourself in the foot.
• 1:07:18
  And you will pay for it either real soon.
• 1:07:21
  Because again, most people aren't doing this as a long term
• 1:07:23
  solution, but at the very least it will affect you for the long
• 1:07:28
  term for sure. 100% no questions asked.
• 1:07:33
  I was at the Bobby Kennedy Maha Make America Healthy again rally
• 1:07:37
  and they were talking about these obesity numbers and the,
• 1:07:40
  you know, there's so many foods in the US that are outlawed in
• 1:07:43
  all other countries. And we're the, you know, only a
• 1:07:48
  small percentage of the population, like this percent of
• 1:07:50
  the population, but we're 75% of pharma pharmaceutical sales in
• 1:07:54
  the world globally. And all these crazy numbers.
• 1:07:57
  And then now they're saying that Ozempic is should be prescribed
• 1:08:03
  to like 12 year olds as a lifelong drug.
• 1:08:06
  And yet they're still feeding them cheese curds in school and
• 1:08:10
  all this poisoned food to cause obesity.
• 1:08:12
  So it's absolutely insane what's going on.
• 1:08:15
  And I guess what, what is your opinion on the administration
• 1:08:21
  that's coming in and that the movement of make America healthy
• 1:08:23
  again. And I, I, I mean, I don't know
• 1:08:27
  where I guess I'm going with that question, but just, do you
• 1:08:31
  think that it's possible for change like true change?
• 1:08:34
  100% I think what he's doing has never been done.
• 1:08:38
  It's unprecedented where he is actually saying, I'm not giving
• 1:08:42
  up on this. You know, there's a lot of
• 1:08:43
  things politically where people say I want to do this and I want
• 1:08:46
  do that. He has been screaming this from
• 1:08:49
  the rooftops, RFK, for a long, long time.
• 1:08:53
  And he firmly believes it. And I think we've seen from his
• 1:08:56
  past when he's passionate about something, he goes all in.
• 1:09:00
  So I love it because obviously this is what I live and breathe
• 1:09:04
  in my industry. And there is so much need for
• 1:09:08
  better education, more knowledge to really expose a lot of what's
• 1:09:13
  out there. So what we're giving to our
• 1:09:16
  kids, what we're feeding to our kids and is simple things like,
• 1:09:20
  you know, again, people think, oh, I'm eating a salad.
• 1:09:22
  And yet you look at the calories and you're going, Oh my gosh, I
• 1:09:25
  thought I was eating healthy. It's not that people are
• 1:09:27
  choosing to be ignorant. They are being bless you, they
• 1:09:32
  are being misinformed and it's it's all marketing, it's
• 1:09:36
  propaganda. So there's just different ways
• 1:09:38
  where people think, oh, I'm being healthy, I'm feeding my
• 1:09:40
  family properly. I'm giving my child Ozempic.
• 1:09:44
  No, you have to be an advocate for your own health, for your
• 1:09:48
  own family and really be open minded to to listen.
• 1:09:53
  So I think what he is doing and his big push, I don't see a
• 1:09:58
  downfall on it. Now granted, that doesn't mean
• 1:10:01
  everyone believes, you know, whatever your political values
• 1:10:04
  are, at the very least, I would just ask people to listen, be
• 1:10:08
  open minded and think about the adverse effects if you don't
• 1:10:14
  follow that path. Now, again, there's plenty of
• 1:10:17
  the foods that are like outlawed and other countries that I'm
• 1:10:20
  like, oh man, I really like those.
• 1:10:23
  Do you know what any of them are?
• 1:10:25
  Well, Pop Tarts for example, certain cereals, you know, stuff
• 1:10:30
  like that. But again, everything in
• 1:10:32
  moderation. Sometimes I just want to bite
• 1:10:34
  and I'm conscious of what I put in my body.
• 1:10:37
  But then again, you know, it's like you have to still have some
• 1:10:42
  fun. I am not an all organic eater by
• 1:10:44
  any means. Now, would I like to be?
• 1:10:46
  Sure, but I also like to have some fun here in that eating
• 1:10:50
  organically for a lot of families is not possible because
• 1:10:53
  it is more expensive. So does that mean you're doing
• 1:10:56
  wrong? No, but are you constantly all
• 1:10:59
  processed food, fast food to your children all the time?
• 1:11:03
  So it's about small behavior changes that can truly add up to
• 1:11:07
  massive change. I think the way he's putting
• 1:11:10
  this information out there, and a lot of times people need to
• 1:11:13
  hear the message over and over before it finally sinks in.
• 1:11:17
  How can that be wrong? Be more conscious of what you're
• 1:11:20
  eating, what you're feeding your children, the actions you're
• 1:11:24
  taking to be active or inactive. It can't hurt to have this
• 1:11:28
  bought, brought to the forefront time and time again.
• 1:11:31
  So I am all for what he is doing to truly make America healthy
• 1:11:35
  again. Let's do it.
• 1:11:36
  Our country is like being suffocated with all of this
• 1:11:41
  toxic foods and drugs and let's just shake it off now.
• 1:11:45
  Again, I don't expect people to go 0 to 60.
• 1:11:47
  I'm not that way. I don't follow everything he
• 1:11:50
  does, but I'm way more aware and that's what matters.
• 1:11:54
  Just being conscious of doing better and making wise decisions
• 1:11:59
  for your own health, yeah. What I know I skipped over there
• 1:12:04
  cuz I got all you know Bobby Kennedy started thinking about
• 1:12:07
  that. But back to the peptide thing.
• 1:12:09
  We talked about Ozempic. I know we only have a few
• 1:12:11
  minutes left here, but what I have heard I was at dinner in
• 1:12:16
  one of my masterminds the other day with a longevity Dr. and he
• 1:12:20
  said that he is a big fan of NAD.
• 1:12:25
  What are your thoughts on NAD? I'm actually taking it like
• 1:12:28
  because someone someone at the dinner was like oh I got an an
• 1:12:32
  IV of NAD and I was so sick for like weeks.
• 1:12:34
  He's like it was horrible. I'm taking it recently just and
• 1:12:39
  gluathione, which I'd love to get your opinion and bioboost
• 1:12:42
  like B12 as just like an weekly, you know little.
• 1:12:47
  Shot. And I've felt I think good, not
• 1:12:51
  no negative side effects for it, but like, what are your ideas on
• 1:12:54
  Nadi know that's another big fad that people are doing.
• 1:12:57
  Is that you think that's a yay or nay?
• 1:12:59
  I don't think it's it's bad like glutathione B shots.
• 1:13:03
  Those are all a lot of the peptides are things people don't
• 1:13:06
  realize they're, they're what your body naturally produces
• 1:13:08
  too. So, you know, there are some
• 1:13:11
  some crazy things and there's some modified peptide stuff that
• 1:13:16
  can be questionable. And, and that's not entirely my
• 1:13:19
  area of expertise. However, I do know about several
• 1:13:22
  of these, several of the popular ones.
• 1:13:25
  Glutathione is great. Just again, it's kind of just
• 1:13:27
  keeping your body healthier. Vitamin B, that's natural,
• 1:13:30
  that's an energy booster that totally helps.
• 1:13:33
  I know a lot of my friends are on that.
• 1:13:35
  I've done those in the past. NADI haven't heard anything
• 1:13:40
  really bad about it. I personally did one of the Ivs.
• 1:13:43
  Now, I am a weirdo with some of my health stuff and some things
• 1:13:47
  that people have touted as amazing totally has the opposite
• 1:13:51
  effect. That was one of them.
• 1:13:53
  So I went in trying it. You know, again, I've never
• 1:13:56
  heard a bad thing and the only thing I could say is it, it made
• 1:14:00
  me feel almost like drugged, I guess, for lack of a better
• 1:14:03
  word, Like I just felt kind of out of it.
• 1:14:06
  So for a few hours afterwards, I thought, and it was Ivy.
• 1:14:10
  I thought, wow, I can't, how do people do this?
• 1:14:13
  But then I have friends who do it and they're back to work and
• 1:14:16
  leading a massive meeting 30 minutes later.
• 1:14:19
  I think it's totally different for everyone, but I personally
• 1:14:23
  have not heard negative, negative things about any of
• 1:14:27
  those 3. So and you know, there are
• 1:14:29
  there's, there's a lot, there's good and bad with peptides.
• 1:14:32
  I think you have to be careful when you're looking into it and
• 1:14:35
  researching it to see someone that is saying it's bad.
• 1:14:39
  What are some of the other things going on in their life?
• 1:14:42
  Maybe that, you know, they took this and it made them blow up.
• 1:14:46
  Well, maybe they were eating horrible and they were taking
• 1:14:49
  this peptide. It had no correlation.
• 1:14:51
  Maybe it has nothing to do with weight, you know.
• 1:14:54
  So a lot of times you have to read further into it, do some
• 1:14:58
  research, ask people who've actually specifically taken it,
• 1:15:02
  talk to more than one doctor and get their opinion and their take
• 1:15:06
  on it. If people are all saying the
• 1:15:07
  same thing, try it. It may not hurt.
• 1:15:10
  Again, these aren't, you know, crazy St. drugs that people are
• 1:15:15
  trying and it's like ultra risky.
• 1:15:17
  So again, I always say go through a doctor, but do be your
• 1:15:22
  own health advocate and see if it seems right for you.
• 1:15:25
  Some of them can be pricey. So if you're going to invest in
• 1:15:28
  it, make sure you know what the heck it is.
• 1:15:30
  Make sure you know what expectations you have for the
• 1:15:33
  outcome. Perfect.
• 1:15:35
  And then closing out here, if you could give one message to
• 1:15:38
  everyone listening about taking control of their health today,
• 1:15:42
  what would that be? Gosh, the best advice I had is
• 1:15:46
  take it one day at a time. You can't go zero to 60.
• 1:15:49
  I don't care who you are and no one is perfect.
• 1:15:52
  So you maybe have a great day. Yesterday you got to the gym,
• 1:15:56
  you ate great, you're mentally we're feeling good.
• 1:15:59
  Your mental health is on point. Be realistic to know that the
• 1:16:02
  next thing may not be like that. You have to be realistic about
• 1:16:06
  life and all you can do is control the efforts that you put
• 1:16:10
  in each and every day and say you binge eat, say you fall off
• 1:16:14
  the wagon and you go and splurge and you're like, Oh my gosh,
• 1:16:17
  I've been so great for weeks. One day will never define your
• 1:16:21
  future. What matters is if you have a
• 1:16:24
  bad day, how do you come back from that?
• 1:16:26
  If you have a bad mental day, how do you come back from it?
• 1:16:29
  What actions are you taking to make the next day better?
• 1:16:33
  So gosh, I've had, I'm so stressed and plenty of bad days
• 1:16:37
  recently and it's like, thank God, tomorrow's a new day.
• 1:16:40
  I get to rewrite whatever it is and whatever went sideways that
• 1:16:44
  day. I have the ability to make it
• 1:16:47
  right this day and yesterday's in the past.
• 1:16:50
  You cannot change it. Don't beat yourself out.
• 1:16:53
  Don't beat yourself up about it. Give yourself grace.
• 1:16:56
  Just focus on forward moving momentum and what you're going
• 1:17:00
  to do. And literally perfection is it's
• 1:17:04
  the the worst thing in our minds that all of us have done at some
• 1:17:09
  point in our lives and it will never work out for you.
• 1:17:12
  So just roll with whatever the day brings, whatever your goals
• 1:17:16
  are, just because even if you have a a weight loss goal or a
• 1:17:19
  show goal or whatever, if you fall short and you don't make
• 1:17:23
  it, move the goal. It's not nothing that I do is
• 1:17:27
  rocket science. It's really instilling people
• 1:17:31
  the support they need, the belief in themselves, and
• 1:17:34
  setting forth realistic tiny steps and actions they can take
• 1:17:38
  each day to get them to their goal.
• 1:17:41
  Whether it's tomorrow, a month, a year, eventually you will get
• 1:17:46
  there because consistency is always the key.
• 1:17:49
  Thank you. I learned so much today.
• 1:17:51
  So nice to sit with you for an hour and thank you so much for
• 1:17:55
  being here and. Honored to be here.
• 1:17:57
  Yes, Thank you girl.