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LB cut leads to ifs ands an butts as a roster depth comes into question! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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[SPEAKER_11]: And this happens is that the the symptoms later and you can't pass the protocol and now the Carolina Panthers had ever released him under an injury designation
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, lots of friends, lots of friends, but you know, we didn't have it any other way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got training camp upon us.
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[SPEAKER_11]: most important storylines to his or that he's looking at going into training camp.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We want to get your thoughts on what those what your storylines that you want to know about and we'll kind of probably debate with each other how much we're interested or where we would rank these Cody like tonight's show linebackers linebacker cuts leads to ifs and buts as roster depth comes into question I don't see where your aunt has nuts in that one
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but then she got her uncle.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but we do have butts and lots of them, but are they the right butts to fill in the right depth at the Ryan Backer position?
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[SPEAKER_09]: Let's jump into it boys.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Today, we got some shocking news that the Panthers released Joseph Jewel who had ninety-seven tackles last season.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's been experiencing concussion symptoms from last season and wanted to take care of his health
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[SPEAKER_09]: First, very understandable.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Renew how hard those concussions are on linebackers.
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[SPEAKER_09]: The Panthers will use Joseph Jewel after the veteran continues to experience concussions symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_09]: The third year old Jewel wanted to prioritize his health and recovery and be considered of his teammates and the move allows the Panthers to move forward with the group of players who are able to get all the practice rep win camp opens tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_09]: If all goes well with this recovery, he could return to the team at some point in the future.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He signed a three-year contract during the two thousand twenty four season, started twelve games last year.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He was second on the team with ninety seven tackles, also had seven tackles for loss, during a half-sax, two plumber recoveries, and an interception.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He missed the last two games of the season with the concussion that he sustained against the cardinals.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And the office is in the Panther side, Christian Rose boom, on the first day of the presidency.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And we still have our, in twenty four, third round of Trevann Wallace with starting experience.
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[SPEAKER_09]: However, the depth boys does not look very good.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Claude and Sherylis, Jacoby Winnman, John Ridington, Bam Martin Scott, and Undrafted for the area to receive you no more of the rounds out the depth on the panther.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So boys,
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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, we've said that the safety and the corners are very shallow at depth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Now we officially have to add the linebacker to that list as well.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Up here on the screen or some of the free digit linebackers still left on the market.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Boys, what does this mean for the Panthers' defense and how surprised are you by this?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Big blow, CK in the wake of, um, Shack Thompson, the Panthers saying that it's kind of time to move on to a different direction and get yogurt.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And, uh, look towards the future at that aspect, but at the same time, you get, you suffer this blow right here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, leaves Dan Morgan, a little con custom, what to do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And, um, I don't know, can the Panthers handle it with, what Trevor Wallace rose, rose bomb?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right, and Christian Roseburn.
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[SPEAKER_11]: What's the what's the depth again?
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[SPEAKER_11]: We pull them go back one of the names that like who do we have that to play the right trevin Wallace?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Really too long to share this you need that mug to really be the guy this year.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and I mean, you know, I'm I'm okay with Roseburn.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He had familiarity with the hero of various defense.
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[SPEAKER_09]: They bought him in for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He was never very good in coverage, which I think is an issue.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We have Trev and Wallace who I think there's a bunch of fans of, I know, I'm a fan of Trev and Wallace.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I really like what you can do.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm okay with those two being our starters for this season.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But it's that depth that scares me, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Claude and Charlottes, Jacob Irmanman, John Rodigan, Bam Martin Scott, and to receiving no more or a lot of people are fans of, but that's asking a lot for an undrafted free agent to come in and be a meaningful contributor to this team right now.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Through the Panthers look to add some depth because of their surprise release.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yes, I think that there's going to be a natural need to continue to add to that room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If there's not a focus on after losing a veteran that I'll be honest with you, odds are they were probably counting on that guy to be a contributor this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that they filled some of those spaces, but that was coming into the season still a position group that we were all very concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so now that that's even thinner of a position group,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If there's not a focus on getting that short-up, I'd be thoroughly surprised.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Interestingly, one of the names on this list that might actually be a guy that would be the type of player you go out and get.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The Gruegler Hill guy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He played for the Carolina Panthers in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Groujé.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Groujé.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Groujé.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Groujé.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's like a cheese.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe it's French.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, that's maybe a type of player because really you can't want a death player.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think this is it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm okay with this being the Kevin Wallace stepping up and needing to be a guy this year because you know you invested a lot on him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: How long are we going to wait for somebody to come in?
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[SPEAKER_11]: You Dan Morgan goes out and hand picks him as the linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You pass on the guy that went to Pittsburgh that was traded with Luke Keakley.
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[SPEAKER_11]: things like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's got to pay it out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you don't want to have to force it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I don't think the Panthers were trying to force the issue and just say, hey, you're starting no matter what you got to be.
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[SPEAKER_11]: the caller, but they did.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He had some experience and when some of these guys went out earlier when Chuck Thompson got hurt and he had to go in there and had to grow up real quick and that was like, that's where he was talking about the communication.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Here in the play is going in your ear.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's, I think you need a guy that's a depth piece, not a guy that you're going to come in there and ask to be the starter from day one or at least if it is, it's just so you don't have to just so Trevor Wallace is like, it's you or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, looking at this list, right?
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[SPEAKER_09]: And Crusade hills and outside linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We need that depth on the inside.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So on this list, I see Eric Kendrick's, you know, Eric Kendrick was a great inside linebacker for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I believe for the Minnesota Vikings, he then played for the Dolphins, but also through CJ Mosley.
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[SPEAKER_09]: still out there.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I would love to have him on this team.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know how much the Panthers are looking to add a linebacker of that caliber.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, thirty three years old though.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, Matt Judon, thirty.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, he's outside my backer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So mostly you're got thirty three year old player.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Another one.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's twenty nine.
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[SPEAKER_11]: These are going to be all piece mail players.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're also going to have some guys that will get cut around camp time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I don't know if this is panic time necessarily for the Carolina Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to the prowling, prowling, veterans' mows are retired.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Alright, so that cuts to this even further.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Zach Cunningham is a name of a player who's still out there.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's a rude spot because you would need depth more than anything.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Cause like I said, I believe that Wallace and Rose boom are the two starters that inside the linebacker for the Panthers and I'm not upset at that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think both of those guys can do a service or job this year, but it's just everyone behind them.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if they're being interesting to see how Dan Morgan decides to go about this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Mike K was asked this amendment was this is a cop a response to a his video.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He put out on the X, you know, releasing this news and talking about what was going on with Josie Jordan and the Y nine supporter at Chad Shaddamak says thoughts on bad Martin Scott and Mike K's response was they like him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I like him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Twenty five year old player that had played with
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[SPEAKER_11]: previously played I think you play what would this I don't even know what the name of the school would have not the school he played for South Carolina that's why you don't like him he played for came out of like one of these
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[SPEAKER_11]: BAM Martin Scott.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He played with Dodge City.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, so Dodge City Community College.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then he went to South Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's twenty-five years old.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, there's going to be an opportunity for some of these guys to get a little time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's two thousand, so he's twenty-five.
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[SPEAKER_11]: uh... dodged city conkies the doors and self-care on a game cuts when they said dodged city conkies the doors i thought that was like an arena football league it was a community college my bad uh... but that was one together yeah i guess i mean who was the what a cool name for a community college the conkies the doors how how pressing is it do you think that we need to sign another linebacker i think you wait till cuts
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't think you you look for somebody right now like you think that I mean you so we did we we signed somebody to replace him so or not to replace him but we fact we filled his roasters by correct.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Um, no, I don't believe so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we haven't we have an empty roasters spot right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what would be the alternative here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like going after it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of this training camp, or when they start to do the cuts, is there going to be somebody who that you would say that they're going to go after that was an immediate upgrade over any of these available linebackers that are getting a lot of other cuts would be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what do you rather?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You have a check Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but that's where it gets released.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but that's my point is like you're talking about a guy who is going to get released off to another team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying there's a there's a part of this that I'm looking at that is
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[SPEAKER_03]: do we really want to put ourselves in a situation where we're hoping that a guy is going to come available that fills that spot if there's guys out there that are an immediate upgrade over Josie Jewel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but I don't know if there is a guy that is a real upgrade at this point.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like, you know, I don't know if there's anything that's out there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So sexy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We just look at that list and we go, oh, that's the guy that all the sudden makes us to order.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then, and I think where I understand what you were, you know, intimate it is is, well, he's getting cut from another team.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So why would you want them?
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[SPEAKER_11]: But there are going to be difficult decisions that teams have to make, because they have too many at one group to write where a veteran player or somebody gets released just because they know that they need to keep a little more depth at something else.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just don't know if this is panic time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I will tell you as we continue to go on with this list the news when it comes to injuries is not on the side of the ball where you have really any room For this, I mean obviously on the first side and then when you look on the other side of the ball the position groups that these are happening.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's like could it happen at a worse position group right?
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, really not.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, especially when we had such an issue stopping the run last year, you know, kind of need serviceable linebackers who would be able to do that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to VR, the hope dealer for the one ninety nine sea three bomb says I know Dan Morgan knows the linebacker talent.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Still it's hard.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It definitely is.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I really don't know what they're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I kind of agree that I think we're probably going to wait to roster cuts.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, this, I know, uh, you know, speaking of hope deal, you can call me a dreamer, but I'm kind of hoping that to receive you, the undrafted guy, the Simone guy, that he's able to come in here and make a name from himself and look sort of how he didn't call it.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I know he went undrafted, but
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[SPEAKER_09]: you know where we're in need of another undrafted player uh... that can come in to do some damage we had uh... coaker last year jail and coaker why couldn't we have another one i don't know man we'll see i don't because we have two serviceable starters i don't know how pressing the need is right now so i do think that you're right we probably will wait
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[SPEAKER_09]: into after roster cuts, but I don't know, it just depends on how pressing the issue, Dan Morgan thinks it is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, what's next up in the news?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Uh, I guess sadly at this time, it's called the injury news time of the season.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Panthers tight in Tommy Trimble, who just signed a two year extension.
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[SPEAKER_11]: has been placed on the public to start training camp he's he'll be eligible to return once medically cleared he just had back surgery like a month and a half ago
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[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you to Jorge Marcello for the one ninety-nine since we're about to receive him no more the undrafted free agent from Fresno.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's the guy I was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I would love if he could be another meaningful contributor, but hopefully he has a good training camp.
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[SPEAKER_09]: What have to see?
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[SPEAKER_09]: But on to Tommy Trimble, who I had been a big fan of, you know, I think I defended Tommy Trimble much like I did to the Harvard, but I won a lot of fans of this guy.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But I'm a fan of Trimble, my fan of what you can do.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But as you alluded to, Tony, he was placed on the public.
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[SPEAKER_09]: The Panthers would be without three players starting to camp.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Dan just in the Sam Martin and Tommy Trimble.
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[SPEAKER_09]: that can be activated from either list at any time during training camp.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He had back surgery in May.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, this is another one that's been going around because recently, Noah Fant, the Titan for the Seattle City Hawks, has been released.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And before the news broke, that Tommy Trimble was going on the public.
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[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of fans around the internet were wondering if he might sign Noah Fant, a lot of people,
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[SPEAKER_09]: They're all wondering if we can end up deciding no offense.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But to the dismay of some, we ended up grabbing another player in the form of what the wrong way.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, maybe Tyler Maybury.
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[SPEAKER_09]: There was also, yeah, also from the Seattle City Hawks.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, Maybury has been with the City Hawks in his twenty-twenty.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So he does have experience with Dame Canales giving him the background with that coach.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Canales and position coach Pat McPherson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He appeared in ten games and he had one catch or his one catch was for a seven yard touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So again, we don't know much about this guy, but this is a similar conversation to the last one.
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[SPEAKER_09]: How much of a pressing issue is it to make changes in adjustments to this Titan room right now?
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[SPEAKER_09]: And do you think a player like Nova Fant had five touchdowns last year could be in the running for the Panthers?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think that the Panthers could have benefited from
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[SPEAKER_11]: adding to the tight end room before the Tommy Trimble problem.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right, is that you looked at it, you're going into the season with Tommy Trimble, the rookie, and that's it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right, and you know, you're talking about, you know, what Jordan Matthews is going to make this team.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm sure he's somewhere out there that's always he seems to keep circle and around the panthers over the last two years or whatever it may be.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you know, he's been productive at moments in the preseason or like these opportunities, small opportunities gotten, but
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[SPEAKER_11]: This was an issue at depth right away and it had to work perfectly the way that they designed the roster and now you're getting news that and I don't want to hear
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[SPEAKER_11]: like he's he can they say well he could be off yeah he could be back yeah back injury he's starting up up list the story said and is this the one from um it might not be the one from Panthers dot com yeah this is this is the one from the one said
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[SPEAKER_11]: At one point it said that he was gonna be start his rehabilitation during training camp.
21:34
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, I don't know what that means, but if that means you're just starting to exercise, you ain't gonna be ready.
21:39
[SPEAKER_11]: Paul Mancini said earlier that he won't be ready until November at all this year.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't think.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, I don't think it'll be to November.
21:48
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I meant to be on it.
21:51
[SPEAKER_09]: She could be back relatively soon.
21:53
[SPEAKER_09]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's an injury?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but I mean, I think this is why do you believe that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like, what?
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm not saying that we have a reason to believe that a season's over, but we don't have any evidence to suggest that like, oh, man, he's just on the, they're just being a little cautious with him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, that's kind of what I took it to me.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And says he would not break begin his rehabilitation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I didn't, I didn't read that.
22:18
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what it said on the Panthers.com with on their story.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And here, I will read the exact words that they put out.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think that this may maybe bring in this rehabilitation after maybe I'm not sure if we do have let me see if I can find that Somebody in chat was saying that we might that they can come and try and boy kind of doubt they would cut them
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[SPEAKER_09]: Um, but I don't know a man did like to me.
22:50
[SPEAKER_09]: I, you know, maybe I'm wrong, but I took this to me that he was just going to, you know, start the rehabilitation process.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Not like for the first time, but that is going to rehab a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_09]: See how he feels.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And I kind of think that he's probably going to be ready at or around the start of training.
23:09
[SPEAKER_11]: This is what, uh, this is from the story yesterday from Darren Gantt.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's a, you know, a first paragraph starts out that two guys were placed on the pub with one of them being Tommy Trimble says Tommy Trimble had back surgery in May and is expected to begin his rehabilitation work during camp.
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[SPEAKER_11]: One line.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I kind of think that was Mr. Warren though.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You're not just starting to rehab right now if you got a surgery in May, like that makes no sense.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I agree with you on that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Usually they start working you from day one and moving around stuff like that.
23:49
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, but that doesn't sound like he's going to be starting to work out at camp.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, did you guys watch the press conferences from today?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so Dan Morgan was asked about Tommy Trimble and he said that he's actually ahead of schedule and what they are anticipating.
24:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said that he will not be signing, although we're going to talk about the Sam Martin part of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they will not be signed in another punter in the interim because his is just a minor heems and hamstring injury.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he'll be don't just gonna use the juxtap machine until he's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which tells me that they really anticipate that being a very short term issue as well.
24:35
[SPEAKER_03]: There's from from all accounts of the way that they were describing or he was talking in the press conference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really have very little concerned about the availability of Tommy Trimble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't specifically say that it's going to be available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That he's going to be available at the beginning of the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But from the sound of it, it's not something that he was worried about.
24:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't want to do him's day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You don't want to over to provide a timeline that you can't meet either.
25:04
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just know in I don't know what kind of back surgery people get but generally back surgery is mine or major.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They all suck I've never met anyone that has just had one back surgery and been done It's like oh my my seventh back like you man it helps you a little while then something else something else Paul Mancini says four to six weeks of rest generally off a back surgery
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It may be like a disc.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's minor things that they, I mean, I'm sure there's, and I know that surgeries have come a long way in that like a back surgery twenty years ago in a back surgery today.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm sure different.
25:47
[SPEAKER_11]: I just have watched enough football and follow these teams in this time period where most, you know, not the regular fan is just, you know, I mean football's not here yet to him.
25:58
[SPEAKER_11]: And we've heard like, oh, head of schedule.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's got to have, you know, got a surgery.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, we heard that with cam's foot back in the day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, like, yeah, I just didn't feel guilty and that is I don't generally believe that people beat timelines.
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[SPEAKER_11]: and expectations.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you heard about what happened, like Will Levus, you know, had season injuries, shoulder surgery.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And that was confused me.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Confuses me when players get that surgery done or get the surgery is done right before the start of the season.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That like, bro, you had all offices.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Nah, that means that they thought this happened with camera couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: you know is where they put off a surgery for maybe even a whole another season right or too much like because there are different opinions on how the rehab can go right yeah is and I think with the Liz Frank surgery for cam remember it's like is like you can rehab maybe to this to a better place and
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[SPEAKER_11]: you know really you don't want to go under the knife prematurely a lot of times you want to see if your body can heal but then there's that like precipice of you know what it's just not going to work and so I bet you will love us was trying to work it out therapy get the shoulder stronger do all these different things and it just was like you know it in a happening or he was trying to make some contractual point in the season where then it was like you know what now I got that bonus or whatever it may be
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[SPEAKER_09]: I wonder what's worse, having a concussion, going on seven months, or complications from a back surgery, and I could say, nobody just don't have one surgery, you don't have a couple.
27:47
[SPEAKER_09]: But dude, Joseph drew a having that concussion, and still having issues, from the end of last season, that's, dude, that's not, you probably have brain damage in some way of shape, performing that one.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You have to play or like this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It was it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think it was.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Hope it wasn't Luke Keakley as that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, do you guys ever remember I feel like our members or guy got a concussion in three weeks went by four and then they're all of a sudden they're back.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're still in the protocol.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe the chat can help us out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The chat helps us out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I identify in that player and hopefully we're not just still thinking of Luke Keakley.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to Dale Haynes.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Dan Conner, the sounds familiar.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Gee, baby said, Dan Conner, there was somebody and I can't remember it, but it just did lingered and lingered.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It was like, oh, I'm feeling fine.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then they were throwing up in the background.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So,
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[SPEAKER_09]: Then Morgan also had a bunch of, uh, kind of hybrid tire tire issues.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He would have been, do you think, uh, jewelry tires?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, Michael or, that's a great, that man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no, that's a great one.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Michael or, do you all remember the picture that Michael or showed?
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, no, no, no, the pills that you was taking, it showed all the pill bottles that he was having to take.
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[SPEAKER_09]: and dude was just on everything.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Michael's or concussion lasted for like two years.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But remember, I remember he got his concussion with three against the Minnesota Vikings and they're thousand sixteen and then from then on just capped on having complications.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so, um, all right, uh, another, this is a tough one.
30:28
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't like to see these types of injuries next to God that I think was going to be a great addition or still can be maybe just a minor one hamstrings can be funny Bobby Brown
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[SPEAKER_11]: is suffering from a hamstring injury right now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And those are some strange injuries like you can tweak a hamstring when you're running a little bit and it's sore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It can hurt for a couple of days and then you can have one.
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[SPEAKER_11]: My daughter is a dancer and she pulled like really strained her hamstring like a couple of days before dance recital and it bothered her for like seven months.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, is, and maybe for a big guy who isn't trying to, you know, run a fortie every time it might not be as something that is as problematic as a speedster who can, you know, deal, you know, linger and linger, you can tweak it and tweak it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But the Panthers need Bobby Brown in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They need the Brown duo, Derek Brown.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We need the versatility, too.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We need them at a few different positions.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Like I said during the Panthers blueprint, it seems as though they have a bunch of different ideas on how to doism, and one of the reasons they signed them was because of that position versatility.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know man this sucks.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I feel like why does this always happen to us every year?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it happened.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I feel like yeah, maybe we just don't hear about it because we're not in the orbit tour of all those other teams But I just feel like every year around this time We're hearing about players that are dealing with these nicks and injuries and
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[SPEAKER_09]: minor things to certain parts of their body, and is that just, you know, not in life?
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[SPEAKER_09]: Is that just not getting back into football shape?
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[SPEAKER_09]: Soon enough, you know, before going to training camp, like I'm not sure what exactly this is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The dream is also to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The dream is also to have a win in season.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Cody what's next.
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[SPEAKER_09]: yeah sir let's move on so this is something that we got to talk about on the free for all and we talked about it a little bit last Tuesday but have no fear Dan Morgan is here we were wondering
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[SPEAKER_09]: When Nick Scorton would sigh and he did so the Carolina Panthers agreed to turn to the outside line back her Nick Scorton to his four-year working contract on Saturday night Scorton was the last remaining member of the Panthers eight main working class to sign his deal
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[SPEAKER_09]: They ride only the first two selections in the second round and sign contracts with their respective teams by the beginning of Monday, but many of us started to file in.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Now boys, I don't know if you've noticed, there is a new trend of second round picks getting guaranteed contracts.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Does it work?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like I saw that one guy got eighty percent
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I think Patriots have done this the Texans have done this the bears have done this There's a bunch of teams are doing this now.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I did not see if Scorton Was amongst those who had a fully guaranteed contract, but I imagine Dan Morgan going on pat McAfee
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[SPEAKER_09]: and saying that they had a first round grade on an escorted probably factored in uh... through that deal and try out the Paul Manson it uh... it says uh... or it is asking did the scorting get the fully guaranteed bonus that i don't know i'm gonna have to look that up as of right now i have not seen anything that says that he's been guaranteed all the money on the contract but
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[SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to Nick, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: The Panthers having our first round agreed on him, probably greatly affected his negotiation power and this deal.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And you know, later we're going to talk about the past rush and just how important Nick's important is to that this is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm spent too close to see some come and squirt and stop two production squirt and surrender see this is one of those that has not got a lot of pub about the what like the actual what how much he actually signed for
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and that's one of the few that's what I noticed is like it's one of the few that didn't actually indicate at least publicly to us what that the details or or the actual signing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's an interesting conundrum that we have with it because we don't really know what's going on with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At the same time, I think that might mean that it wasn't as guaranteed as they would have liked, because I feel like if I had to guess that the agents are the ones that most likely leak the deals, you know, more than the team, I think the team would probably rather not have people know how much people are getting paid, but that would be my guess.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because I saw a story that made me with that kind of click, click baitish.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_11]: And that was Bangalore's sign, rookie player to important deal or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I thought it was going to be the guy.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I watched him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and it was their second round pick.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he got eighty percent guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we haven't heard.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And it looked like from what the way the story, at least the Panthers have been talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're pubbing him up a lot.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's Gortner's been in Charlotte the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like it hasn't been a very contentious situation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You just said, man, I let the agent handle this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Big shout out to Dale Haines.
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[SPEAKER_11]: If a ten dollar C. Three Bobby says appreciate you guys bring us all the Panthers content every week.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You guys are the goats of Panther and Asia.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Brother, you are the goat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You guys are the men this Lee generous.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, and what we'll talk about.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Scorton and Prince.
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37:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, rookie tight in that you're going to need to be playing a lot potentially or are counting on a lot more than maybe even wanted to.
37:29
[SPEAKER_11]: And it looks a lot of the game plan when it comes to Panthers defense is really relying on these young draft picks to actual work.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you'll hear some sad stories and PTSD about
37:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Tony done waiting for a draft pick at defensive end on this team to work.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh my gosh.
37:50
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I'm still, I mean, I thought it was going to be Coney Ealy.
37:55
[SPEAKER_11]: I thought it was going to be Coney Ealy after that super bow at that mug handed the keys to the car near to
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[SPEAKER_09]: didn't get it done Brian Burns your tour gross miles.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Did you know what was the do something Christians that Christian.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Come on the radio is a preacher.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Did your Johnson is another one.
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[SPEAKER_09]: There's been a bunch may we need both of these dudes to work out and be good for us and you know to me one of the things that could help
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[SPEAKER_09]: save a zero, a vero's job is if these guys are good this year bringing these rookies to come in and making impact and whereas traditionally that hasn't been what happens for the Panthers.
38:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, the Panthers have a picture up of Scorton and his cats.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's little kittens on their website right now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We're going to need him to play like a Panther and not like a kitten.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We need this guy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We need it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you know, I love his ad.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I love, I feel like these guys look a little different than some of the guys in the past.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe I'm wrong.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I mean, a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're like, they're body types a little.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They look a little bit more NFL ready.
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[SPEAKER_11]: More put together.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, but I guess Scorton, which one of them?
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[SPEAKER_11]: One of them is like only two hundred and fifty five pounds at one point.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So that's a little light in the ass as old Joe Rielano would say.
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[SPEAKER_11]: D. J. Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I say this is that if there's a year guy can get an opportunity as this one.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to Paul Manzini, who says the total contract is a point six million versus are you pre-determined and slotted based on where a player is selected.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's a signing bonus and guaranteed money that are always negotiated with teams.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's small little numbers in the payout schedule.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Some, you know, those details right there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Do we have any more news before we get to the calls?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Go to see.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'll see.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Do we?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let me see.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I might go ahead and pull up the Google voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: two two eight fifty ninety eight well why don't we go ahead let's do it and take some of those calls then let's do it two five two two eight fifty ninety eight let's roll so what do you thought it's on cat calling yeah that's pretty sh**t it shouldn't do that somebody and how did that make you feel very uncomfortable how do you think cat calling makes the person feel it feels good like
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, he's here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No Jonathan Mingo.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Some of these these fake camp stories, this smoke screen we've seen in years past.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh man, they had a really great camp and then the regular season come around and then they don't perform.
41:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, so I just wanted to reflect on that real quick man happy camp, everybody.
41:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so how did Jose Jewel was released earlier the day, don't man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I'm a little concerned.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna lie with the linebackers man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was already kind of customer man with the depth of the linebacker position.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And now that Jose Jewel is gone, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, man, you know, it's the whole bill of man.
42:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to know how much I appreciate y'all, man.
42:07
[SPEAKER_06]: It's been a rough day, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had to get a tire fixed on my bare vehicle, hot tire, and went up to the shop, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Pete went up, dropped the other one off, and my mechanic said, oh, this car needs for a new tire.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, man, I'm just grateful to had this therapy, man, in the C-III Legion.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, if we don't stay hurt for man, I love all y'all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody out there, no matter what, keep found it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Keep found it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A report, a rookie reported yesterday, scored and signed all of them basically the same breath feels like.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then today, the veterans reported that right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And when do things pop off?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like when do they actually start?
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[SPEAKER_11]: practice team will have fifty tomorrow I think tomorrow yeah tomorrow this is last year schedule all right so they will not be hosting you know as fans you're not gonna be able to go see them kind of a bummer I don't know why the Panthers are still don't know why the Panthers did that I thought it worked out wonderful last year yeah and it was I know I mean they they're redoing the Panthers headquarters
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you remember they're doing that whole training camp thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like last year we thought we were worried that we weren't going to be able to do the training camp because they were going to be building the new training camp facility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The new practice facility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we didn't realize that they weren't building the practice facility during that training camp.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was only going to start afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they're in the process of building that training camp or that practice facility.
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[SPEAKER_11]: and so that's why I think it that's the whole reason they've given us the white happened the weather not allowing people to building a facility that will be using the future of this the construction made it to problematic right I hope be able to keep your hopes up
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[SPEAKER_11]: As a guy who has three kids when he's driving and spent two thousand dollars on, it seems like two thousand dollars is the number that just pops up my life a lot recently.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I've had two thousand dollars in car repairs for my son over the last three, four months.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Tires ain't cheap.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's like going to get in a battery for your car these days.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I felt like maybe I just drove little last Toyota's back in the day, but I felt like you go get a battery for like sixty bucks.
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[SPEAKER_11]: If you go get a battery for like my truck now, it's like two hundred and twenty five dollars.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Nothing is cheap.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Everything almost costs the grand these days.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you get four tires.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're looking at eight hundred bucks for a lot of cars.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now I keep chin up, keep pounding.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's go the next go.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you know, what's going on, T-three of the Anthony from Charlotte, I hope your boys are having a good Tuesday, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think I missed calling in last week, just wanted to call in this week though as the Vesterbrook band camp, and we're officially underway two weeks out from the event, and man, it's like from that point on, a month to ill football, and it's exciting, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm getting excited, getting very excited, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, obviously, I think this is going to be a great year for us.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, and I just kind of wanted to touch on some stuff that's going around, you know, new and starting to pile up a little bit slowly.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, I think there's a lot of good content to pay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's been putting out, uh, the breakout video, him going back to modern day.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I like, I like that conversation yet.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, just kind of talking about his legacy and like how he has to, you know, run his own race, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you know, we got that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And then, you know, that big bill that I love to.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, we don't know what's what's going on here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're going to be in, I have to go to hopes for him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But in YouTube channel, man, he's dropping a lot of great content in, like, inside the locker room type stuff, like, you know, confidential stuff with his hand, like, doing workout with the boys, up in Minnesota, Adam invited them up there for, like, a lake weekend and like, to grind.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the whole group seems like they're getting along well.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they have a lot of camaraderie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So that's cool stuff.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But now I want to like the players like Josie Jewel.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's crazy how like this stuff doesn't leak out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, like it's crazy that apparently he's been like dealing with concussion issues and fight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We fixed teamers of the Cardinals.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It kind of reminds me of the Haydenhurst thing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: from two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're like after that bears game, we got like really concussed and then he had to retire.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's an unfortunate event, especially when a guy that we signed to a multi-year deal, I thought he would solve last year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But we're really big and I'm the young guy and I said this in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I really don't know if Dan did emphasize linebacker more because of Trevor and Wallace, and I think he will be using Trevor and Wallace, but also I don't know how much input in Jiro Everrow is having on the defensive side of the ball, because it seems like we're doing things, we're getting players that he needs at certain positions, but then we're completely not addressing other positions.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, you know, here Everrow
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[SPEAKER_07]: When in Denver, you know, his defense was built the one year before he came to us when it was really good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was good on stopping the run and having a good corner back.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like that's what we did in the interior and we have GC horn.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But like the linebacker room feels like it's being completely glossed over.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hold on.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna call back real quick.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's got a short follow up to the call.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Go back and answer me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yo, what's up, junior?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm back.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, so yeah, like what I was saying was,
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[SPEAKER_07]: It just feels like we've glossed over a couple positions on defense at eight.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It just feels like a wrong or fair ran defense or a four or a few votes ran defense.
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[SPEAKER_07]: One to have these issues.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But again, I said this in the C-C-III meeting chat.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I noticed that people are freaking out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I know G-B-A-V kind of stands in out today or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Plus the bottom is like.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Seriously, we weren't going to be able to fix everything overnight with this roster.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think that's one thing, like, I'm grateful for what Dan Morgan has done up to this point, the two years BGM.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The roster is in a horrible position.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Two years ago, not everything's going to be fixed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The best we can hope for is that the defense is probably average this year and gives us a fighting chance in these games.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Give me all your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Anthony from Charlotte.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I'm thinking today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Keep motherfucking poundin'.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thanks, Anthony, for the call.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Are the Panthers?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Is this glazing?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Is this double E not getting as much input or is this?
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[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers not being able to wave a magic wand and do everything all at once.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's kind of the latter.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think he's driving the call in the shots by himself.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I don't think that the Panthers, I think they did as much as they did a lot on defense.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And maybe you could, unless you wanted some maybe a higher, like something for the optics, a trade, a big, big giant sign.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And the Panthers had so many things to do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And they really allocated so many of their resources, both in free agency and in the NFL draft to the defense.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's kind of, um, you just can't do it all at once is my initial.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: That's why I agree with what you said earlier.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think if they do something, they'll probably wait a little while until after the cut start.
49:49
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, but I mean, no, I don't disagree.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Like, uh, you know, a lot of people say that we neglected the center position.
49:57
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, you can still say that we have three really good options to play the center for which between Austin Corbett, Cade, Mades, and Brady Christiansen.
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[SPEAKER_09]: However, there are a lot of people who are saying that we probably should start pounding the table more for a brand new young center to put in the middle of this revamped offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Linebacker is another one of those where it's like all of the best teams that you can ever remember for the Carolina Panthers had awesome play at inside linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_09]: That's just the truth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And right now there's a lot of unknowns and inside linebacker boys.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I hope that Trev and Wallace is a superstar waiting to happen.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We know no of that debt, but we did see a lot of good play and good film from him last year.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm hoping that you can take another step forward.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm more excited about him than I am Rose Boone.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I do have some questions about Rose Boone, but, you know, I think Trevyn Wallace can be a really good player.
50:59
[SPEAKER_09]: But now the linebacker is right up there with safety for being amongst the worst depth positions on the team, bar none.
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[SPEAKER_11]: CK, it's funny that we go through these conversations and maybe we might squeeze the man in the middle on this show right here is that value and replacement value of position groups and we've taught the Nazium about how running backs.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, you know, it's just like, is this is a position group that there's guys that you can pencil in.
51:30
[SPEAKER_11]: You can keep playing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You can cycle through and they don't have to be stars.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I felt like there was a time where the NFL was trying to sell us that inside linebacker was kind of that position on the defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, it's, yeah, I think that's been a common occurrence, but I think that might be the NFL also trying to make a concerted effort to devalue the position because it is like it was starting to get to be a pretty expensive, you know, role to fill for a high quality person in that position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't really speak to a time where I feel like they had talked about middle linebackers, like they said, like they would when, you know, or linebacker group in general and Ray Lewis was around or, you know, Luke and TD or, you know, Bobby Wagner, things like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do think that you're seeing a pretty
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[SPEAKER_03]: clear change in that narrative, but I think we're becoming, you know, I think the answer fans have long lived in a world where we can't, we do not want to see that happen.
52:41
[SPEAKER_11]: We had enough budget middle line backers over the last five years.
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[SPEAKER_11]: are you know we're tired of the budget middle linebacker and you could tell me how much a shutdown corner is so much more valuable.
52:56
[SPEAKER_11]: I know this is that there are defensive always with a great defenses that we've had in our past have always had some dogs right in the middle not just some okay dudes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah not some to hear white heads or whatever it may be.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, uh, final call of the night so far.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, is now we got one more that came in after it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's go to another heavy hitter in Panther pickle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey!
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[SPEAKER_04]: this is not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How long today we got a little bit of what's considered bad news, but you know if I'll let me say what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't you do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen these concessions before, but that's as hard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you know, we found those things with that Wallace.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The other guys is behind here, we're all super young, but, uh, that's the sort of little hole.
53:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You never know if you got a diamond in the left.
53:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You never know these things.
53:48
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good time, but if you want to do this thing like this, it's kind of a good time to do it.
53:53
[SPEAKER_04]: As you do have final cuts coming up in a month or two, and you have other teams get trying to get rid of players.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you never know what you can swim and do without or do.
54:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think the partner or the no tackle Bobby Brown who's out that long.
54:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's real loud.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they'll be back in a couple weeks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or maybe less, but you want to see, you want to see Kim Dacto step up, you want to see him get more playing time, you've got a few other folks out there in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So many young, uh, crumbity, uh, a couple other young difference of lawmen that you want to see what they can do and
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is just a good time to do that.
54:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Bobbi is nursing him the one at me.
54:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He's all right.
54:39
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I just want to shut up to leave you, shut up, parents and parents.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't go, don't fall for you.
54:45
[SPEAKER_04]: It just will be all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you, baby, brother, shut the hell up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As always, brother took, stuck it up, brother took, you know, all about what you wanted life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Keep down it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, Pam, one more call.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, that's all I've got for today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: See you guys next week.
55:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm just joking guys.
55:32
[SPEAKER_05]: I actually have some really interesting alternative football leagues around the world.
55:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It took place in of all places Toledo, Ohio.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Tony, you'll appreciate this, but the Federation for Italian American football, which is basically the IFL or the Italian football league in Italy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like they're
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[SPEAKER_05]: in the world.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They just held their super bowl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Italian bowl, seventeen or something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's the link grain of, but they held it in Toledo of all places.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was to grow the sport.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, it was held this past weekend for two weekends.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, I found that interesting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, I hope that on your favorite team in the European League of football, the Panthers for our show, unfortunately, lost to the Vienna Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Vienna Vikings are an awesome team, and so we really stood no chance there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, Panthers in Carolina, or the Panthers del Norte, or Delta, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My Spanish isn't that that good right now, but anyway, they have so training camp and guys I'm pretty psyched for that and Just I really think this is the year y'all I got my bracelet on and we're going to the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's all I got for right now as always Keep pound the chair on a pan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Just keep pounding Panthers power keep pounding B-three Panthers podcast Go fish
57:15
[SPEAKER_11]: And I'll see you all later, John.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'll turn it off football update.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Viva la football day Carolina day, North Day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: North Day day Carolina day, North Day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Live long live football in North Carolina and South Carolina, the Carolinas.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Gosh, football is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Training is here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We can't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And as training camp unfolds,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Joe person he's like really the mainstay he has been
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[SPEAKER_11]: The beat writer for the Panthers that has just held it down the longest.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, not only held it down, but has done tremendous work.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Been on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Works for the athletic.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You can go to the athletic and sign up for their long-formed coverage.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's one of my few go-to new sites when it comes to sports.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he put out a story CK on tin training camp story lines that he will be looking at.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And we'll kind of finish out the show by going through these.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I guess talking about our story lines or what we think, we think they're misranked.
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[SPEAKER_11]: However, you guys want to go.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Number ten title this says, who will emerge as the returners?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Rashim Blackshier, he writes his handle kick returns every year since joining the Panthers in twenty twenty two.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In last year was primary kick and punt returner, but additions of fourth round running back, Trevor, ETA and six round receiver Jimmy Horne pushed Blackshier down the depth chart and likely put his chances of making the roster in jeopardy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Big.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Big flex there, Joe, at the end, the younger brother of Jags running back of Travis, averaged nearly twenty five yards in two seasons as Florida's kick returner before transferring to Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Horn has game-changing speed and return experience from his two years at Colorado.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers, he's saying, look at who can someone surpass Blacks here, because Blacks here is going to be at this point now on the roster, guys, where he's just going to be a punt returner.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, there were moments where he could be a little gadget in the running back room.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But now the Panthers got doubtal.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They've got kind of, they've got their tandem.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They've got ATM.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They've got some guys that they can cycle in and do there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Your thoughts on this guys is just black sheer make the team you guys like to see when these young guys it would be a bold move for the Panthers to say man we're going rookie straight up out the gate all season.
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[SPEAKER_09]: will happen and both of these guys have the jade breakaway speed they have a good post contact balance and you know now you need those two returners out on field yeah this is my scenario that I'm hoping for Cody of your mike volume went down tremendously somehow by accident they really didn't do anything all right um ck
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[SPEAKER_11]: Anything here you want to say, should we move on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say something really quickly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't sound better, Cody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The black sure thing is interesting to me because I think the thing that's holding him up was that injuries that kept him off the field.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not really sure what's been in or out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I feel like he's been involved, though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's where I'm kind of confused.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that the other people would be a good option, but I feel like black sheer has been a pretty, you know, a pretty stand-up kick returner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Has he been like a superstar?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And do I think that, you know, somebody like Jimmy Horn could possibly absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hate to say it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this team is looking to build the team through the draft, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're realizing that they're going to have to do like some things with regard to getting like
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[SPEAKER_03]: free agents and stuff like that, but for the majority of our team, we're going to have to build through actually developing players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, do you let a, maybe a above average tick returner walk because you're trying to develop the potential superstar that could arise from a ETN or a Jimmy Horn?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's value in that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's also a tremendous amount of risk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, I don't know, but I like black sheer personally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's been a good addition to this team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's been in that positive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it would be, I would feel, I'd miss him a little bit if we were to lose him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it would be a big, not a risky, like you said, but a old move to just say, you know what, we're just okay with having rookies do point and kick returns and just see what we got.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You forget about that, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, a lot of pressure, though, at that position.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I mean, there's a lot of guys that did that well in college.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, who was the guy I hated this dude?
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[SPEAKER_11]: He was from Arkansas.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This would have been around twenty thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He was a draft pick and he was so good in college at kick returns and and or punt returns.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He just fumbled every time he got in F.L.
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[SPEAKER_11]: player from Arkansas it was like James he's got a hat he had a name like Jimmy Horn or James something somebody will come up with it number nine on the list.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Is this better by the way?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No.
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[SPEAKER_11]: No.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Go to your head phones did you need to and we'll figure out the rest in a little while.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We'll damn Oregon look outside for secondary help.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, Joe Adams.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, Harvey London.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's what it was.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Joe Adams was awesome in college and terrible in the pros.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Number nine story line on Joe persons athletic article.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Be sure to subscribe and support him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Keep those guys having their jobs out there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: says will Dan Morgan look outside for secondary help right speculation that the Panthers could add a veteran defensive back has persisted since they hosted free agent safeties, Julian Blackman and Marcus Williams and a visits in March, Justin Simmons a safety who was with Panthers defensive coordinator, Jira Everrow in Denver is also available, but I sense he writes that Morgan Everrow and can Alice light the makeup of the current secondary group and aren't planning into bringing
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[SPEAKER_11]: reinforcements.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously, that would change due to injury or bad showing during joint practices and Cleveland Browns and Houston Texans.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But the Panthers may big investments he writes in horn, morgue, and don't forget Mike Jack.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They also pay this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They kind of need those guys to work and they kind of need one of these younger guys to fill the void.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So can you hear me?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, better.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So some updates, Julie and Blankman have signed with the New World in the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, thank you, I'm off the list.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We're going to be facing him twice a year.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Listen, I would like to see Justin Simmons on this team.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_09]: We've talked about him a little bit before on the pod.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think that he would be here.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Good addition to this team.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't love the safety depth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Just like I don't love the light-backered depth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think that Justin Simmons having prior experience with the Jiro and various defense from his time with the Denver Broncos.
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[SPEAKER_09]: To me, you know, that's the perfect fit for the defense.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I would love for us to do that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: If he's willing to sign for a decent contract.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm in favor of that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I hope they do it, but
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[SPEAKER_09]: At this juncture, I just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_09]: who they're going to decide and what position they're going to prioritize at this moment.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you wonder if the linebacker issue is that at some point, you can't have too many them can't be thin as a piece of paper at too many positions.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So if you are working, hoping to get by at the secondary, but now you have work concerns at linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe that leaves them more to say, we got to invest in one of the other and maybe it's not just because Josie Jewel
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[SPEAKER_11]: They part of ways, but maybe this kind of inches them into a place where they need to feel a little bit more comfortable at the secondary group, while they're trying to manage that lineback or position with a second near player, traveling Wallace.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Next up on his storyboard is
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[SPEAKER_11]: what we talked about earlier and one that has been very concerning to me, and probably won't say the, I can see why it's listed as eight, but really a secret concern for me.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe not so secret after this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_11]: What's the situation at tight in?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now, when did he put this out?
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[SPEAKER_11]: CK, was this story?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think he published it yesterday or the day before maybe?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he, I thought this morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know when he published it though.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think it was published.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Um, because I don't think he's going to mention the pup here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So probably he's going to go back and like not edit, but making a denim to this number eight right here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: What's the situation at tight in he asked?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Depending on Tommy Trimble status, Panthers could be in the market for a tight end to pair with Jetevi and Sanders and rookie Mitchell Evans.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Trimble had back surgery in May two months after resigning on a two year
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[SPEAKER_11]: Point five million dollar deal.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's tough to envision him being ready for the start of camp And as they put him on pup don't expect him to be practicing tomorrow, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: One name to monitor, he wrote is Noah Fent, who was really Sunday by Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And Kamalis, the impanters titan coach, Pat McPherson, were together in Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Jutavian Sanders, that was the dude.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And really, who's crushing it last year until he had that neck injury.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right, man, and he writes this, Sanders' thirty-three receptions as rookie last year were the most by Panthers titan since Greg Oltz and who pulled in.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Fifty-two passes in twenty-nineteen during his final season in Charlotte, and that was a rookie that rock thirty-three receptions.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sanders was on pace for a forty-four catch season before being flipped on his head against Kansas and week twelve.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The fourth rounder is lost ten pounds during the offseason, looking to get a little faster.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's a big, strong dude.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And really played.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Not a lot like a rookie last year.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it was very dependable down the stretch.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And some big moments when we needed them came up with some contestant catches.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I sort of feel the same way about the linebacker thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'd like the two starters that we had pencil then, right?
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'd like Tommy Trimble, but he had the neck injury.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And I'd like to tape you on Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think to tape you in Sanders is a beast.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And I know we're all sort of averse to wanting to land too much on looking at players.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But this is literally why we drafted Mitchell Evans, a shorthanded Titan out of Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's good on the line of the Grammage.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's, you know, he's good in the run game and run fits.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's able to look out into the flat and being open by receiver when Bryce would need him.
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[SPEAKER_09]: This is why you draft guys like this in the later rounds for a moment like this.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I know everybody would love to have former first round pick Noah fan, but I would rather cultivate the young talent that we have on the team right now and see what they can do rather than spend more money.
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[SPEAKER_09]: They know needlessly on the office.
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[SPEAKER_09]: If we're gonna be spending money, I would rather add to the depth of linebacker or at safety than I would spending money on another tight end.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_11]: One of the things I've heard throughout the years of doing this podcast though when it comes to some of these tight ends that
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're like, I mean, and I guess Ian Thomas could be a guy that people, like how the heck do these guys stay on the team?
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[SPEAKER_11]: So long, you know, I mean, things like this because they don't, like, why aren't you giving it to these younger guys who can do more in passing game?
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[SPEAKER_11]: There are a lot of responsibilities for tight ends in, like, short yardage situations, feel go kicking extra point kicks, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like in these guys, actually not only they have to play
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[SPEAKER_11]: like of alignment, capability, and some of these special teams types roles.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And that's what I've heard that like some of the real adjustment for these players is, isn't just like going and doing your job in the basics of Titan, it's those real things that keep you in the league for ten, twelve years going on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Number seven on Joe Persons List is here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let me see.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Will a Kim Aquano extension will an in a Kim Aquano extension get done before the season.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He writes since Morgan was promoted and can can Alice and vice president of football operations, Brent Tillis arrived.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers have made a point to lock up deserving homegrown players.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This least least features Derek Brown, Chew Behobert, J.C.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Horn and many soon may soon include Aquano.
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[SPEAKER_11]: First round pick from twenty twenty two.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We said he wants to be here for the team's turnaround.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The two sides failed to get a deal done during the off season, but Morgan has expressed a desire to keep the Charlotte native in process blue for the long term.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Last spring, he writes Janales called Aquano a dominant run blocker who needed clean up his hand placement footwork to prove as a pass blocker.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers picked him and picked up the fifth year option for twenty twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_11]: An extension with an average example of a value of twenty one million would put the former NC State Mall are among the top seven highest pay players at his position.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Guys, do you think this
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[SPEAKER_11]: is the big story here, or is this like man, you can also have next year's offseason to deal with this too.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it might be the only one that wants no part of extending him right now.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Like, I want to see the Enchemic one of video premiere, pass, protecting a left tackle before we sign him doing extension.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a great day.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's a mallaring, the run block in the fits.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I love that about him.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But we need a well-rounded Titan to really be able to hold up against the best passionals in the NFL before we pay him that contract.
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[SPEAKER_09]: To me, there's no reason to sign him right now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: See, can I think the premature might not come with the expectations of him being the premier left tackle in the league?
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I'd like to see him be a good left tackle this year.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then you have the opportunity to say, and we're going to get you in top ten money after that.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that we need to see more.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So the interesting thing is, JC got paid because he played at a high level, right?
1:12:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And he proved that he was a great player in that one year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a great year, right?
1:12:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like, you know, you were not going to look at it and say it was great from an interceptions perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you're going to say it was great from the perspective of compared to what he had been dealing with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It he had a good year last year, but still he hadn't had a great year, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't say that he's been
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's okay to say that, but I also think that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, we run into the same situation where we're asking ourselves, do we want to pay him now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or do we want to pay him later if he doesn't have performing at a high level?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, if you go ahead and ink that extension and he plays the same as he did last year and he's still talking about him being all of a sudden you're paying a guard tackle money.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think this has to be done before.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, he didn't say had to be.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I just as will it be done.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think it will.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think this is something that maybe you do.
1:13:35
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, you know what, if he shows at real improvement, I think you start working on it mid season.
1:13:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I look, I agree with that aspect too, but you got to keep in mind, this is the part of it that I think you want to look at it.
1:13:48
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to make sure that he's not going to be overly expensive like we got a
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hate to bring him into this because we've already had so many conversations about cam, but we got a bargain winning cam to Cam Newton considering what he did that year.
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_11]: He came back or that first year after we got that game right after him, that yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Pull a mega mega money.
1:14:10
[SPEAKER_11]: It almost seems like you got him pennies on the dollar, you know, you bought
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[SPEAKER_11]: and video.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I saw this ticket.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_11]: You love this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's a guy on Reddit.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He said, I told myself I would sell my entire Nvidia position when I got to a million dollars profit.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_11]: and the dude over eight years invested thirty three thousand dollars in Nvidia and made a million.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he sold it all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he said, this I feel great.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So great.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Number six on the list is who wins the kicking competition?
1:14:49
[SPEAKER_11]: Joe person writes the Panthers will have a new kicker after moving on from Eddie Pinyara.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Where is Eddie?
1:14:55
[SPEAKER_11]: Where is he by the way?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Who cares?
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that he's been signed anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'll look it up after I read this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He knew who's third all-time among NFL kickers in field-go accuracy but never had the strongest leg.
1:15:14
[SPEAKER_11]: that doesn't seem to be an issue for undrafted free agent Ryan Fitzgerald, who's fifty nine yard or last August against Georgia Tech was the second longest kick in four to stay history after struggling during a rainy and windy OTA practice Fitzgerald was nine of ten.
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[SPEAKER_11]: on skinny gold posts over the Panthers next to practices with reporters present.
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_11]: He would appear to have the edge over journeymen, Matthew Wright and his bounced around six teams over five years, including a one game stand.
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_11]: I think I know where Cody's going on this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And if he's going, I'm dying on that and on I'm right on to what do you think about this, Cody?
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a general baby, let's go.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, do you know I'm a fan?
1:15:59
[SPEAKER_09]: of someone with a big leg.
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_09]: I like the size.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_09]: I can't help it, man.
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, comb your size king, if you will.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_09]: The bigger the length the more I like on baby yard.
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I think Nick Fitzgerald has the potential to be a really good football player.
1:16:17
[SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, we have a lot of new players on our special teams between the punter, between the kicker.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I'm a
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm a really big fan of the youth movement.
1:16:29
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I feel like the Carolina Panthers have gone right now.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of really young players on this team with a ton of potential who have the opportunity to be very good players for a long time and it's up to our coaching staff to cultivate that talent.
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, I'm tired of us playing scared Cody on this.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_11]: I hear it.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_11]: Graham can know and Harrison Bucker.
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, like now it's this is look is go for broke here.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_11]: Sign the kid if it gets the yips three weeks into the season Matthew Wright will be available.
1:17:07
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's a lot of bad man.
1:17:08
[SPEAKER_09]: We need to leave the Jews and move them amongst the Carolina Panthers.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_09]: I want to see it done, man.
1:17:13
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's go.
1:17:15
[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_11]: CK, you want this or next up?
1:17:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, let's just keep it going.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the kicking conversation is just one of those ones that I don't think it's going to be interesting until we actually see these guys playing real football.
1:17:26
[SPEAKER_11]: We kick that dead horse and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This one's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Number five on persons list of story lines going into trading camp will there be enough pass rush.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_11]: He writes the Panthers thirty two sex in twenty twenty four time for the third few is ever in the league third no for the third few is in the league a shot Robinson and J. David and Clowney paste the Panthers with five and a half sex a piece the lowest total for the team leader since now digs and Damian Lewis finish with three and a half and two thousand and seven those are the name it twenty four numbers property the Panthers replace outside linebackers
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[SPEAKER_11]: Coach, Tamma, Luca Bo, Luca Bo, Luca Bo, Luca Bo, Luca Bo, with AC Carter and move on from clowning in favor of the of a youth movement at Edge after sighting Pat Jones following a seven sack season in Minnesota.
1:18:20
[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers took two SEC Ed rushers on the second night of the draft.
1:18:24
[SPEAKER_11]: Nick Scortman, Prince, Prince Lee, Umen, Neelian, Umen, Neelian, Umen,
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[SPEAKER_11]: You men kneeling, you men kneeling.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers need consistent pressure from Robertson and D.J.
1:18:38
[SPEAKER_11]: Wattam who have four sex and eight games last year.
1:18:41
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm already barno.
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Another returning address here likely will start camp on the physically unable to perform list.
1:18:48
[SPEAKER_11]: He didn't mention at all.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Homeboy that we drafted three years ago.
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[SPEAKER_11]: uh... DJ Jackson Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_11]: DJ Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm in the story.
1:19:05
[SPEAKER_11]: Did he?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No.
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, she didn't.
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[SPEAKER_11]: What do you want to say about this, Cody?
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_11]: Uh, she can't use the first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, uh, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm running voice calls from mom.
1:19:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
1:19:18
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
1:19:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, mama.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to say that I don't know like again the DJ Johnson thing is one that it's another one of these situations where I feel like we got really excited about or potentially excited about a guy who had some potential.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not surprising that maybe he's not a focus on this because he really hasn't been a priority of our defense.
1:19:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to see that maybe he can turn his career around but right now it's not like one of these things where we're like
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to make sure we're getting him signed either.
1:19:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Or you go ahead on it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
1:19:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:19:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, if I'm being honest, you know, my main thing is I'm just glad to see that we got basically everybody signed.
1:19:58
[SPEAKER_03]: We got our defensive line short of for the most far.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_03]: That allows us to focus on other areas.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Will it be enough?
1:20:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we're ever going to know until these guys are playing football.
1:20:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Because even though Scorton had a first round draft grade and top ten the year before, there's no guarantee this dude's going to be that guy.
1:20:20
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of optimism around that again to put that into place.
1:20:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I just don't know.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, it's hard for me to get excited about a defense that's got a barrel at the helm if I'm just being honest with you.
1:20:33
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
1:20:34
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, Tony, I'm the more I've looked into my building excited about Patrick Jones and what he was able to do and interestingly enough, him and DJ Warren on both played with the Minnesota Vikings and they both had around the same sack totals.
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think when you paired those two together,
1:20:53
[SPEAKER_09]: They're really aggressive, violent players coming off of the edge.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think when DJI wanted him to come back last year, he was one of the better parts of the defense.
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, he has violent hands and gets so after the quarterback, personally, I thought that he was better than Geneva and Clowny down the stretch.
1:21:14
[SPEAKER_09]: So if you're able to pair him and Patrick Jones, if they're both able to have a career years here for us and our defensive interior, which we're going to talk about here in just a minute, if our defensive interior is ever to step up,
1:21:28
[SPEAKER_09]: We could have a pretty decent pass rush.
1:21:31
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just hard to say because we have a lot of unknowns left on this team right now.
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_09]: And they obviously were all hoping that next Gordon and Prince of the human middle and get a lot of playing time this season.
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_09]: Like I said earlier, having young rookie players been meaningful contributors to this defense right now.
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_09]: That's important for us now more than ever has been.
1:21:53
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's important for a jury of a vero who is, in my opinion, very much on a hot shift.
1:21:59
[SPEAKER_11]: I think we need Matt Jones and one of them to hold it down and hopefully get some solid production out of the rookies rather than counting on them.
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_11]: Guys, we're going to jump into back into the calls real quick because G-Baby called in and I believe his call has to do with defense for a great time to work it in.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_11]: G-Baby in the house.
1:22:19
[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, do you know who the fuck it is?
1:22:25
[SPEAKER_08]: Where the fuck are we gonna go?
1:22:26
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[SPEAKER_08]: Where the fuck are we gonna go?
1:22:43
[SPEAKER_08]: Where the fuck are we gonna go?
1:22:45
[SPEAKER_08]: Once I hear my name today, the boy's got a fucking calling.
1:22:49
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like, he motherfuckers just being not lying into the fucking sky.
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_08]: And it says, D, baby, and I pop up.
1:22:56
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm fucking here motherfuckers.
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_08]: What?
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_08]: Dude, dude, baby, you're telling me.
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, what's due to my fucking dogs on the motherfuckin' town?
1:23:03
[SPEAKER_08]: Man, I hope y'all was having a fantastic night, a beautiful fucking night, a very Carolina.
1:23:08
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm most definitely worried about this defense.
1:23:12
[SPEAKER_08]: The defense is cooked, it's cooked.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be the same fucking camera on the Panthers beeping.
1:23:19
[SPEAKER_08]: You don't lose Josie.
1:23:23
[SPEAKER_08]: Damn, they're a hundred plus passwords on the worst defense and NFL history and expect to fucking get better.
1:23:32
[SPEAKER_08]: You got to minimize Bobby Brown's hamstring injury all you want.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_08]: But one thing I do know is those hamstrings are a bit
1:23:42
[SPEAKER_08]: And when you went into the season, you limp out of the fucking season.
1:23:45
[SPEAKER_08]: And that's what I know.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, I don't understand how the heart of the defense with the lineback of the position is the finish on the motherfucking team.
1:23:55
[SPEAKER_08]: And our GM is, uh, one of the greatest, you know, panther, uh, linebackers.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_08]: And, um, I just, the, the defense scares me, shit.
1:24:06
[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm gonna make a prediction.
1:24:07
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, I'm gonna brush y'all going for a fucking MVP this year because he's gonna have to.
1:24:12
[SPEAKER_08]: This off, it's going to have to put up twenty five to thirty plus points of games to even fucking compete and get W's.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_08]: I have this team as a twelve-wain team.
1:24:22
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1:24:36
[SPEAKER_08]: And now he's doing big things of fucking Carolina and a lot of you can take it just to put the fuck this is coming out to win work man.
1:24:44
[SPEAKER_08]: And it makes me fucking smile like a motherfucker man.
1:24:48
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, I got a lot to say.
1:24:49
[SPEAKER_08]: He's coming back.
1:24:50
[SPEAKER_08]: I know the show's about to fucking end.
1:24:52
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, my wife is telling brother.
1:24:53
[SPEAKER_08]: I got another.
1:24:54
[SPEAKER_08]: I got it.
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, I'm coming out some people.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_08]: We're working.
1:24:58
[SPEAKER_11]: And then a second call for G baby and we'll finish up this list and see how Panthers are they lip and Anna lip and out.
1:25:06
[SPEAKER_08]: hope they're not limp it in to the twenty twenty five season g baby back for more this is just it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
1:25:32
[SPEAKER_08]: Hell fuck, you know, I'd rather just run fuck we have with this adventure series.
1:25:37
[SPEAKER_08]: I told you how much fuck the jack hop is done for the goddamn fucking team man fuck shit content You guys just have a beautiful fucking night.
1:25:48
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, how could I not fucking get on Cody Lack's ass?
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_08]: You can take dick fucking motherfucker bar.
1:25:54
[SPEAKER_08]: You have a
1:25:58
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, we got the whole fucking season to get into it because I'm on your ass.
1:26:03
[SPEAKER_08]: This is about the fucking season.
1:26:04
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's about Joseph.
1:26:05
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, he's like, uh, has the adapt to be to say, Jay, he horn is the most talented player on this fucking team.
1:26:12
[SPEAKER_08]: And that is absolutely.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why, that's the biggest fucking life.
1:26:17
[SPEAKER_08]: The most talented player is the person that plays the hardest position in professional sports, which is fucking bright young.
1:26:23
[SPEAKER_08]: Fresh young can know when we played fucking vision one fucking basketball right young was right young with the number one his father suddenly of the NFL fucking draft what are we talking about here?
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_08]: But you know I have classified no and a class by cat and another fucking cat Cody lacto over here tell me what fuck is he just he just got quarterback of course you'd be most fucking talented player like that's it.
1:26:49
[SPEAKER_08]: It's the bias
1:26:55
[SPEAKER_08]: They don't exist.
1:27:06
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not here for you motherfuckers to like me man.
1:27:09
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll give a fuck who I mean who do best if you like me if you fuck me.
1:27:13
[SPEAKER_08]: I fuck you if you don't like me then fuck you press I'm not here to hold grown man's hand, bro.
1:27:18
[SPEAKER_08]: Yo this is a bunch of grown ass fucking men in your fucking village.
1:27:21
[SPEAKER_08]: That's like a bunch of bitches, bro.
1:27:23
[SPEAKER_08]: With a bunch of fucking females in here.
1:27:25
[SPEAKER_08]: Here the whole job fucking head, bro.
1:27:29
[SPEAKER_08]: Be some fucking grown ass men if the fuck you bitch you are to get some fuck out of here, bro.
1:27:34
[SPEAKER_11]: All right, we love you.
1:27:35
[SPEAKER_11]: I love you, gee, baby.
1:27:36
[SPEAKER_11]: I do love gee, baby.
1:27:37
[SPEAKER_11]: It's my boy.
1:27:38
[SPEAKER_11]: But I don't think he's right here on the price young could be five, seven in car.
1:27:46
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I mean, he could be the star.
1:27:47
[SPEAKER_11]: He could come out to be a great work.
1:27:49
[SPEAKER_11]: But I don't know if you'd ever say that Tom Brady was the most talented player.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_11]: And maybe I'm like, what is that mean?
1:27:57
[SPEAKER_11]: Does it mean physical talent, right?
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Does it mean physical like his
1:28:03
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I just wonder, I mean, it's that you look at Bryce Young, we're hoping that he is.
1:28:08
[SPEAKER_11]: It comes a greatest quarterback in NFL history, but I don't think that would ever make him more physically talented than a Cam Newton.
1:28:16
[SPEAKER_09]: This is my point.
1:28:17
[SPEAKER_09]: And the chat room we were talking about who is the most talented player on the team.
1:28:23
[SPEAKER_09]: And generally, the James Bond says, the defensive backs are the most athletic positions on the field.
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's say it's between them and the wide receiver.
1:28:35
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe run the back also, but man, dude, JC Horn, ring his healthy.
1:28:41
[SPEAKER_09]: That dude's ability to cover and to mirror a wide receiver.
1:28:46
[SPEAKER_09]: Like being a wide receiver is straightforward.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, you're running straight and you're running around.
1:28:51
[SPEAKER_09]: But being a defensive back, you have to back pedal and you have to stop on a dime and read just to what the receiver is doing.
1:29:00
[SPEAKER_09]: J.C.
1:29:01
[SPEAKER_09]: Horn is ham.
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_09]: He's absolutely ham.
1:29:06
[SPEAKER_09]: He's a frink athlete.
1:29:07
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, absolutely.
1:29:09
[SPEAKER_09]: But I also do think that he is the most talented player on the football team.
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_09]: Just pure football player.
1:29:17
[SPEAKER_09]: Now I'll open prices incredible, this is.
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_09]: But right now, giving brisetat title, that's irresponsible.
1:29:25
[SPEAKER_11]: You can't run the fastest.
1:29:27
[SPEAKER_11]: You can't.
1:29:27
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
1:29:28
[SPEAKER_11]: How could you ever be that?
1:29:29
[SPEAKER_11]: Actually, you could be the best.
1:29:31
[SPEAKER_09]: And to right now is never all through your winning season and quarterback.
1:29:35
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know how these corners do it y'all go back pedal for eight yards as fast as you can as well and then take fourteen seconds off and then do it again it is it's insane how much
1:30:01
[SPEAKER_11]: Stamina the ham like it is it's just go back pedal we do it in the trade-out do it my jam and when we do back pedal you try to get low and you're four I'm forty five or forty forty four this year I'll pace myself but I'm trying to be athletic and I like damn these bugs They're crazy good.
1:30:20
[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
1:30:21
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's get back to Joe Persons top ten storylines.
1:30:24
[SPEAKER_11]: I think we got halfway through.
1:30:25
[SPEAKER_11]: We have five or four now
1:30:28
[SPEAKER_11]: We're in number four.
1:30:30
[SPEAKER_11]: We really just talked about it.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, G baby gave us it was like a perfect time to get into that.
1:30:34
[SPEAKER_11]: He said this defense was cooked and that he's worried about it.
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_11]: Then he went to say, G baby, I love you.
1:30:41
[SPEAKER_11]: That mug here lives on straight like
1:30:45
[SPEAKER_11]: If you could bottle G-baby, isn't that what you used to say?
1:30:49
[SPEAKER_11]: CK, if we could bottle G-baby's energy?
1:30:51
[SPEAKER_11]: Like, yeah.
1:30:52
[SPEAKER_11]: Like, fuck five hour energies dude.
1:30:54
[SPEAKER_11]: Just take a G-baby and then you like, whoo!
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like meth of football, excitement, life excitement.
1:31:03
[SPEAKER_11]: But about this defense is it going to be better Joe Personas?
1:31:07
[SPEAKER_11]: He writes, it would be hard for it to be much worse.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what?
1:31:11
[SPEAKER_11]: Those are some famous last words I've had on this fucking podcast.
1:31:17
[SPEAKER_11]: And I ain't saying that shit no more because I said, oh, how could it get worse?
1:31:21
[SPEAKER_11]: How could it get worse?
1:31:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I've seen it get worse.
1:31:24
[SPEAKER_11]: So I just want to see it get better.
1:31:27
[SPEAKER_11]: uh... it would hard be it would be hard for it to be much worse he writes had big reason for the poultry pass for us a big reason for the poultry pass rush was the fact that the panters were played repeatedly gash in the run game leading to few third and long situations in which the pass rush is good eat Morgan tried to attack the problems in free agency after rebuilding
1:31:50
[SPEAKER_11]: The offensive line, the former Panthers linebacker turned GM missed out on his biggest target, Milton Williams, but added free agent pieces to all three levels of the defense.
1:31:59
[SPEAKER_11]: In addition to Ed Drescher's, the Panthers also took Ohio State.
1:32:03
[SPEAKER_11]: Safety, lathe, and a ransom in Florida, defensive lineman can Jackson on the third day of the draft.
1:32:09
[SPEAKER_11]: But the key to the Everrow coordinate team could be the health of Derek Brown, whom we'll address momentarily.
1:32:15
[SPEAKER_11]: Uh, I saw another story on the athletic where they asked like what was the, who's the most important player to watch in trading camp?
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_11]: And it just had an athletic rider for each team just list there's Joe Persons.
1:32:30
[SPEAKER_11]: Unsurprisingly, was Derek Brown.
1:32:32
[SPEAKER_11]: Guys, I think we can just move on to number three since we just talked about the defense and defensive problems.
1:32:37
[SPEAKER_11]: Number three on the list, or you had something to say, Cody?
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, I do want to say that.
1:32:43
[SPEAKER_09]: out of any coach on the team.
1:32:46
[SPEAKER_09]: who potentially could be at risk of losing their job mid-season.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_09]: I think it's a zero-evalor.
1:32:54
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, I do think that Dan Morgan and Grant Tillis and Dave Canales, that they do really like a zero-evalor as a coach.
1:33:02
[SPEAKER_09]: If not, I don't think they would have given him as much a leader way as they've given him after his defense gave up the most points in the NFL last year and in the NFL history.
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_09]: But I do think that he's a very easy scapegoat if this difference is still showing you the same problems and you're not able to defend the run.
1:33:25
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, your players are not minding their different gaps.
1:33:29
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, if you're defensive backs are being coached.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_09]: or, you know, let's also talk about the rookies.
1:33:35
[SPEAKER_09]: If Nick Scorton and Prince of Human Meal and don't look as good as promised by the talent evaluators in Dan Morgan, I think a duo of Vero could very easily be on the chopping plot very soon if this defense doesn't look good, essentially right out the gate.
1:33:56
[SPEAKER_11]: G-Baby got the whole chat room a curse and now.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_11]: I, I like the later, I think I really just committed this is that guys these guys who they brought in here have to be able to stop the run.
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't care if they're in the second area if anything.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's not get caught up and covered.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_11]: Do this.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_11]: Layton ran some hard hit and safety.
1:34:15
[SPEAKER_11]: More hard hit and safe, you know.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_11]: is they got to shore up this run and nothing's going to get better.
1:34:22
[SPEAKER_11]: This defense can't be better in less teams can't just run all over them at will.
1:34:28
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean teams were having like eighty yards in the first quarter against this team at times.
1:34:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It was miserable and you felt hopeless.
1:34:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Because like we let's go back to that Lannick game.
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_03]: We felt the best about this this team that we've ever felt in the past four years in that Lannick game.
1:34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: We let Atlanta and their offense dog walk our defense.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: We won't judge fifty yards rushing or some shit.
1:34:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It was ridiculous and like it was so I'm so much optimism because we saw Bryce young come alive.
1:35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
1:35:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we can agree on that.
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that.
1:35:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But we saw this defense.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Just in the most ridiculous situations, we played Washington.
1:35:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:35:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Go.
1:35:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go back to this.
1:35:17
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the second or third game that Andy Dalton came into the team.
1:35:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And so we were like, oh, man, maybe we have a shot because he just came in and he just lit it up after Bryce got got bins.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And we go against the commanders.
1:35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: They're first drive.
1:35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Jaden Daniels goes down with an injury.
1:35:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He does not come back in that game.
1:35:36
[SPEAKER_03]: We get dog stomped.
1:35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:35:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it is absolutely unreal, right?
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost hopeless.
1:35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So there are offensive real opportunity to win if they don't know you'll be there.
1:35:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't and listen, we can make the argument about the players and all that stuff.
1:35:55
[SPEAKER_03]: We were so early in this in the season.
1:35:57
[SPEAKER_03]: If these guys weren't ready to play or weren't fully juiced and incapable of competing, we were in a far enough in the season where these guys have a idea of what this defense was supposed to be.
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_03]: We were far enough in that we were still early enough in the defense where they shouldn't have all their energy gone, right?
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like they're worn down and they're
1:36:14
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, in a weird, you know, stamina issue being depleted or anything like that.
1:36:19
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think there's only one explanation, and that's a Farrow's defense was just not effective.
1:36:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So I really don't know.
1:36:26
[SPEAKER_03]: As I mentioned, when we were talking about the edge rusters, I... It's similar to Cody's opinion about Bryce Young when he was having a really hard time early on.
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is, I'm gonna have to see it before I give him any grace.
1:36:43
[SPEAKER_11]: And I need to see, I mean, I want to say it about, um, rookie players, but I'm continue.
1:36:49
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm just going to stick what I've said is that it's a very difficult position.
1:36:52
[SPEAKER_11]: Addressor.
1:36:55
[SPEAKER_11]: And now you can just call it outside blindback or for a three, four defense.
1:37:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Very difficult position for a young guy come in and make a difference.
1:37:04
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, if we could we need this to happen.
1:37:06
[SPEAKER_11]: We need one of these guys are not both of these guys.
1:37:09
[SPEAKER_11]: Not only hopefully make a difference this year to put make a long term difference on this team or else we're going to continue to be in this hell that we've been in because we haven't been able to make a home grow different at this position.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Yet, right, and it's show.
1:37:26
[SPEAKER_11]: Number three on the story list is this is Ted Aroa, make Millen the missing piece, or Bryce Young in the offense.
1:37:32
[SPEAKER_11]: Is this the first outfit?
1:37:33
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, no, we have one at tight end.
1:37:36
[SPEAKER_11]: Thing was number eight on the list.
1:37:37
[SPEAKER_11]: Everything else, nothing is really bad about the offense at this point.
1:37:40
[SPEAKER_11]: So you can go ahead and say it's gonna be this.
1:37:44
[SPEAKER_11]: Bryce Young is gonna be number one, my bet.
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_11]: My guess is it's this, Derek Brown, Bryce Young.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_11]: He writes, Panthers brought back their entire offensive line, which did a nice job protecting young and opening holes for Hubbard last fall.
1:38:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Rico Dattle should provide a nice change of pace in the run game.
1:38:04
[SPEAKER_11]: but can Alice offense last year lacked a big-time playmaker in the passing game, which the Panthers hope they were getting an Xavier LaGET.
1:38:12
[SPEAKER_11]: In fact, McMillan's arrival should allow LaGET to relax and settle in after rookie season plague by drop passes.
1:38:20
[SPEAKER_11]: And McMillan's size, catch radius and familiarity with young should be a boom for the third year quarterback who threw with McMillan during the offseason lobbied for him with the Panthers decision makers Cody.
1:38:32
[SPEAKER_11]: Hey, it looked top ten pick at wide.
1:38:35
[SPEAKER_11]: You need it to hit and if it's difficult for defensive ends to adapt to the game, right?
1:38:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Or a left tackle, right?
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_11]: There are some positions that feel like it's like a lot harder for rookies to make a difference.
1:38:47
[SPEAKER_11]: We've seen rookies at wide receiver make tremendous differences for teams just sadly not for the Carolina Panthers.
1:38:55
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I've become a really big fan of this guy after seeing and learning more about the man himself, not just the player.
1:39:03
[SPEAKER_09]: Do you have this infectious vibe, infectious energy?
1:39:06
[SPEAKER_09]: And you know, uh, look, man, a lot of these some moan or island or type players.
1:39:12
[SPEAKER_09]: They didn't be in a really damn good football players, man.
1:39:16
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, I was a little bit hesitant to draft him before the draft.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't feel like he was the type of wide receiver.
1:39:24
[SPEAKER_09]: that the Panthers were looking for.
1:39:25
[SPEAKER_09]: I felt like we were looking for a real burner.
1:39:29
[SPEAKER_09]: Someone that could really take the top off it.
1:39:31
[SPEAKER_09]: He's by no means slow, but dude, his catch radius is absurd.
1:39:36
[SPEAKER_09]: He's being strong, physical.
1:39:39
[SPEAKER_09]: And we have seen damn cannellis have a ton of success with wider receivers that affect that exact prototype.
1:39:46
[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm very optimistic, not just about tech himself, but about tech in relation to all the other wide receivers on the team.
1:39:58
[SPEAKER_09]: Him and Xavier look at who they mentioned.
1:40:01
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, him and Adam Taylor, who's already built up an incredible
1:40:06
[SPEAKER_09]: relationship and connection, but by the way, Jail and Coker looked really, really good last year.
1:40:12
[SPEAKER_09]: And then Hunter run fro and Jimmy Horn, Jr.
1:40:16
[SPEAKER_09]: to this and all of the sudden, this is the deepest wide receiver for the Panthers.
1:40:22
[SPEAKER_09]: Then I can remember, remember in a very long time.
1:40:25
[SPEAKER_09]: And I do think that if we continue to make really big strides this year, it will be because of him.
1:40:35
[SPEAKER_11]: All right, number two on the list is I think it would be Yes is Derek Brown ready to return to fill a huge void on the defense he writes the defense defenses undergoing Undergoing started last early holy shit the defenses undoing okay
1:40:58
[SPEAKER_11]: started early last year when Brown tour his meniscus and week one and was lost for the season.
1:41:04
[SPEAKER_11]: When Shack Thompson went down with an Achilles injury three weeks later, the Panthers were without two of their best players and leaders on defense.
1:41:11
[SPEAKER_11]: Thompson has gone the latest X-Fanther to join Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and Buffalo, and while Brown's rehab has gone well, expect the Panthers to bring him along slowly and training camp, so he's ready for the star of the season.
1:41:23
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the sound strategy given Brown's importance on the defense.
1:41:27
[SPEAKER_11]: The twenty twenty first round pick from Auburn had a monster season in twenty twenty three finishing with more tackles than any defensive linemen NFL history and going to his first pro ball he's a monster is a big monster we need in the middle and I don't think they need to do too much with them in training camp.
1:41:49
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think they need to put them in a bubble
1:41:51
[SPEAKER_11]: necessarily because you don't want someone to not have to be in shape football shape, you know, the rigors of, you know, the heat, the play and all of a sudden get back and just welcome back in week one.
1:42:07
[SPEAKER_11]: But I don't think it's time for Brown to prove anything to anybody in training camp and an opportunity for other guys to get important reps here.
1:42:16
[SPEAKER_11]: Derek Brown, interestingly,
1:42:19
[SPEAKER_11]: you know how g baby was talking about people that shit on people early in their careers right when it comes to yeah price young we forget about it
1:42:30
[SPEAKER_11]: There are a lot of heavy hitting Panther fans or Twitter analysts that after year one and year two, we're talking junk about Derek Brown.
1:42:40
[SPEAKER_11]: And now he is the toast to the town.
1:42:43
[SPEAKER_11]: And I mean, he is a stalwart.
1:42:46
[SPEAKER_11]: We need him.
1:42:47
[SPEAKER_11]: This team needs him.
1:42:49
[SPEAKER_11]: And if you want to improve a defense that cannot stop the run, I can't see a better way than getting your best player against the run on the field.
1:42:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
1:42:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a game changer, I think.
1:43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, I know I'm saying that if Arrow didn't really have an excuse last year, if there was one excuse, I would give any credence to it's that Derek Brown was not there.
1:43:13
[SPEAKER_03]: That is it.
1:43:15
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a major impact on this team.
1:43:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm ready to see if he's able to bounce back and I think he could, you know, I'd like to say this and I'm saying this is an optimistic panther fan.
1:43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he could get that comeback player of the year.
1:43:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be great.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_11]: The Panthers could use it in their attempt to get the offensive to come back to me.
1:43:35
[SPEAKER_09]: During Brown is what will make our defense run.
1:43:39
[SPEAKER_09]: If our defense runs effectively, it's because their brown will be a monster in the middle, wreaking havoc.
1:43:47
[SPEAKER_09]: And this entire defense has the opportunity to flow faster through their brown.
1:43:55
[SPEAKER_09]: I bring this up a lot when Luke keeps one defense player of the year.
1:43:59
[SPEAKER_09]: The first thing he did was clear credit to start the two of the late and cave one shore.
1:44:06
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're interior defensive players,
1:44:09
[SPEAKER_09]: able to get that pressure.
1:44:11
[SPEAKER_09]: It just pays off in dividends for every other difference of player on the team and allows your edge players to spend their years back and get after the quarterback.
1:44:22
[SPEAKER_09]: It lets your linebackers to be able to freely flow to the gaps and it makes a hell of a light.
1:44:29
[SPEAKER_09]: It makes life a hell of a lot easier on your defensive backs.
1:44:33
[SPEAKER_09]: back there in the backfield.
1:44:34
[SPEAKER_09]: If the pantry's defense is going to be good this year, it's going to start with the Derek Brown bar none.
1:44:43
[SPEAKER_11]: And there cannot be a bigger storyline going in the training camp and into the twenty twenty five season.
1:44:51
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, it is.
1:44:52
[SPEAKER_11]: We are right.
1:44:53
[SPEAKER_11]: I was right.
1:44:54
[SPEAKER_11]: Joe Parsley writes, is or asks, is young poise to take the next step and put the Panthers in contention for a playoff spot?
1:45:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Joe Parsley writes, young looked like a completely different quarterback at the end of the last season.
1:45:06
[SPEAKER_11]: The one who's inconsistent and lack of confidence led to his
1:45:10
[SPEAKER_11]: Benching on after only two games.
1:45:12
[SPEAKER_11]: This version more closely resembled Bama Bryce.
1:45:15
[SPEAKER_11]: It was encouraging enough for the Panthers at the Panthers decided to use a top ten pick on a receiver rather than give ever a some help on defense.
1:45:24
[SPEAKER_11]: Young turned in his best three game stretch to close twenty twenty four with ten touchdowns seven pass and three rushing.
1:45:31
[SPEAKER_11]: And no turnovers against Arizona Tampa Atlanta.
1:45:34
[SPEAKER_11]: His five TD game in the overtime win against the Falcons prompt that can now us to pronounce the Panthers.
1:45:40
[SPEAKER_11]: had our guy.
1:45:42
[SPEAKER_11]: Young needs to play the way that way from the jump this year of the Panthers.
1:45:45
[SPEAKER_11]: Hope to in the league's second longest playoff drought.
1:45:49
[SPEAKER_11]: Guys, I'm really optimistic about your price, young.
1:45:52
[SPEAKER_11]: Not only do I, it's kind of like a force like I need to be optimistic.
1:45:56
[SPEAKER_11]: I want to be optimistic.
1:45:57
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I'm always rooting for any of these guys that are on my team, not rooting against them.
1:46:03
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't have some inner desire to so that I was right at the expense of the team that I have to talk about each week, right?
1:46:12
[SPEAKER_11]: And I don't know.
1:46:12
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't even even have a right or wrong position on this.
1:46:15
[SPEAKER_11]: I was I just wanted Bryce a what price to work.
1:46:20
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, I'm I'm really happy.
1:46:23
[SPEAKER_11]: that turn around happened.
1:46:25
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that it's going to be if this continues on the trajectory it did it can go down.
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_11]: It's one of the great stories in football history about a player who turned it around because this league is so unforgiving.
1:46:39
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, people were talking about cutting him, trading him things like that, in the middle of the season.
1:46:45
[SPEAKER_11]: We were having conversations with, what is the, not will he ever be on the field as a part of the Panthers?
1:46:52
[SPEAKER_11]: But we had this one comment, what is the pathway for him?
1:46:55
[SPEAKER_11]: What would have to happen?
1:46:56
[SPEAKER_11]: And this is kind of one of those scenarios.
1:46:59
[SPEAKER_11]: We just need this to continue that momentum.
1:47:06
[SPEAKER_11]: I do feel like everybody's just thought it's like a foregone conclusion that that inertia.
1:47:12
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, the now the league's latching onto it and I really hope it is an inertia that can't be stopped.
1:47:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you and I think everybody on the Panthers on Panthers nation is hoping that as well.
1:47:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's the thing that I'm optimistic about is I think that there is a certain level of confidence that plays into the quarterback position too.
1:47:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
1:47:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And so because of that, I think that's been a double as short for Bryce up to this point because he's just been
1:47:42
[SPEAKER_03]: struggling with feeling like maybe he's been good enough.
1:47:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And now I feel like he has that confidence that maybe he hasn't had his entire time in Carolina up to this point, you know?
1:47:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:47:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So look.
1:47:58
[SPEAKER_09]: We have done so much to get the most out of Bryce Jones in
1:48:08
[SPEAKER_09]: We are spending the most out of any NFL team right now on our offensive line.
1:48:17
[SPEAKER_09]: We have spent the last two first round picks at Wired Receiver for Bryce Young.
1:48:26
[SPEAKER_09]: Not only do we have a thousand yard russia and true behubbert, but we went out and got them another thousand yard russia in the form of record out.
1:48:35
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not to mention the TV on Sanders, the other board receivers that are down the, the depth charter also on the team as well.
1:48:46
[SPEAKER_09]: There's no more excuses for Bryce Young.
1:48:51
[SPEAKER_09]: I am so hopeful that this year Bryce is going to turn it around and actually be the guy that removed up into the number one overall pick to draft.
1:49:06
[SPEAKER_09]: I need to see it first.
1:49:08
[SPEAKER_09]: Because now there's no more excuses to add all whatsoever.
1:49:13
[SPEAKER_09]: We have the weapons.
1:49:15
[SPEAKER_09]: We have the line.
1:49:16
[SPEAKER_09]: By the way, I didn't even mention we brought in an offensive minded head coach specifically to get the most out of Bryce Young.
1:49:27
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm very confident.
1:49:30
[SPEAKER_09]: That canalist has learned how to use those empty formations.
1:49:34
[SPEAKER_09]: Take it the best out of Bryce.
1:49:36
[SPEAKER_09]: Like they were able to do with him at Alabama.
1:49:39
[SPEAKER_09]: I feel like this could be a huge year for Bryce Young.
1:49:44
[SPEAKER_09]: And if it isn't, I don't know, we'll cross that bridge and we'll get to it one way.
1:49:49
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the spell, right?
1:49:53
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we got to last some final things to clean up.
1:49:55
[SPEAKER_11]: There's no more slides.
1:49:56
[SPEAKER_11]: I do want to.
1:49:57
[SPEAKER_11]: And I have to go at shortly.
1:50:00
[SPEAKER_11]: Just got the opportunity.
1:50:01
[SPEAKER_11]: It was my dad's sister passed away just now.
1:50:03
[SPEAKER_11]: So I need to give it all.
1:50:04
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, I do that, man.
1:50:05
[SPEAKER_11]: I do what is in front of my sit.
1:50:07
[SPEAKER_11]: This you guys remember, Kenya, I'm Barnard Barnard Barnard.
1:50:10
[SPEAKER_11]: From the name, shower and familiar running back super fast.
1:50:13
[SPEAKER_11]: This is him.
1:50:14
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:50:15
[SPEAKER_11]: This is awesome.
1:50:16
[SPEAKER_11]: This is him talking about Greg Hardy.
1:50:17
[SPEAKER_11]: Let me make sure you guys
1:50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: got a ball to me with a loading model.
1:50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know who a loading model was, my team from Arizona.
1:50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So bro, when we were in training camp, they would let him sit out individual drills, like offense and defense.
1:50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that my knowledge?
1:50:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like bro, why is he sitting now?
1:50:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, who is this dude?
1:50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the right one.
1:50:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So we go, we go team, they let him sit out.
1:50:44
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh my, bro, who is this?
1:50:47
[SPEAKER_11]: Is this not the right one?
1:50:49
[SPEAKER_11]: The first one is the corner is talk out.
1:50:54
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I may be sent me to my boys at me.
1:50:57
[SPEAKER_11]: These, they were two of them.
1:51:00
[SPEAKER_11]: This Kenyan border.
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_11]: Who is this?
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, he sent me to.
1:51:06
[SPEAKER_11]: See.
1:51:09
[SPEAKER_11]: What are our presents?
1:51:11
[SPEAKER_11]: Same kind of story.
1:51:12
[SPEAKER_11]: Who is this guy type thing, right?
1:51:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Freak of nature.
1:51:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's split me out wide.
1:51:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm most in that wide.
1:51:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm expecting a linebacker to come out with me.
1:51:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's our defensive end.
1:51:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mind you, I'm not in the slot.
1:51:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at number one.
1:51:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, no business coming out.
1:51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's him.
1:51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a go route.
1:51:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you're dead.
1:51:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Kim, throw me the ball.
1:51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't even look anywhere else.
1:51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the defensive end.
1:51:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
1:51:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, what in the are you?
1:52:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote a fourth, three, eight.
1:52:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you this close to me at two hundred eighty five pounds?
1:52:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg Hardy, defensive end, Carolina Panters.
1:52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm free.
1:52:10
[SPEAKER_11]: Freak at nature.
1:52:11
[SPEAKER_11]: Think about that is being welcome to the league.
1:52:16
[SPEAKER_11]: You round of four.
1:52:18
[SPEAKER_09]: he was one of if not the main reason why that two thousand thirteen defense probably remains the nastiest panther's defense that we have ever seen that we were the definition of self-accating man sixty-six that you're yeah just a third man
1:52:43
[SPEAKER_11]: What a terrible story.
1:52:44
[SPEAKER_11]: You know, he just recently got arrested for domestic for choking a family member out.
1:52:49
[SPEAKER_09]: Again, I didn't even see that.
1:52:52
[SPEAKER_09]: I know he had a failed do you have a secret rear.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_09]: And then he had some boxing matches and got knocked the fuck out.
1:52:59
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so I'm going to tragic decline, you know, but I just thought it was so much more potential dude.
1:53:05
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
1:53:06
[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
1:53:07
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the C-III Panthers podcast.
1:53:09
[SPEAKER_11]: We got one last segment rock out.
1:53:11
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1:53:12
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1:53:22
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1:53:24
[SPEAKER_11]: Cody Lack.
1:53:25
[SPEAKER_11]: Now it's time to hit him with the longest running segment on the longest running Panthers podcast.
1:53:29
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's ice some fools up.
1:53:32
[SPEAKER_11]: Are you so?
1:53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
1:53:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
1:53:43
[SPEAKER_11]: It's our time to ice up some fools that is where everyone is fair game.
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_11]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
1:53:52
[SPEAKER_11]: We don't have to stick with football.
1:53:53
[SPEAKER_11]: We can ice up each other.
1:53:54
[SPEAKER_11]: We can ice up ourselves.
1:53:55
[SPEAKER_11]: We can ice up.
1:53:56
[SPEAKER_11]: Whatever you want, Cody lack what you got for us tonight.
1:54:00
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, man.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_09]: I have three of them tonight and all three of them.
1:54:03
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I got near politics over here.
1:54:05
[SPEAKER_09]: They're all different flavors.
1:54:06
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
1:54:07
[SPEAKER_09]: So we'll go with one that is highly deserving of the ice up.
1:54:14
[SPEAKER_09]: So, and right now is the California fires happen a couple of months ago, and did this giant benefit.
1:54:24
[SPEAKER_09]: And the benefit or the concert rather, with a bunch of the biggest aims in music, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, there was a bunch of other really big names there.
1:54:37
[SPEAKER_09]: There is a hundred million dollars and the California Democrats funneled it to nonprofits instead.
1:54:46
[SPEAKER_09]: So almost no money has been used on actually rebuilding California or helping out the victims of the fires in California.
1:54:58
[SPEAKER_09]: Then you realize that the same thing happened in Australia, the same thing happened in Hawaii.
1:55:05
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're wanting to support victims of disaster, it seems like the best thing to do at this juncture is not paying money to millionaire musicians for tickets, where you don't even know what's on the money.
1:55:20
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
1:55:22
[SPEAKER_11]: Address and that neighborhood.
1:55:24
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, literally doing nothing to help the victims do.
1:55:28
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just absolutely disgusting.
1:55:31
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, truly, secondary of people's lives were upended by that.
1:55:36
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm also, uh, now here's a different flavor.
1:55:39
[SPEAKER_09]: I told you, I got the, the Neapolitan tonight, right?
1:55:43
[SPEAKER_09]: So listen, if you were meeting secure, we're both born in nineteen nine.
1:55:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
1:55:50
[SPEAKER_09]: So if you grew up in the nineteen nineties, as a young man, your first dream was probably Britney Spears.
1:56:00
[SPEAKER_09]: Britney Spears.
1:56:01
[SPEAKER_09]: Britney Spears.
1:56:02
[SPEAKER_09]: Is this like performance art?
1:56:11
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what she's doing, she's doing this alone cut our swords like she looks like a soccer mom from a trailer park and she's just like oh this that was problem with this how the mic how the mic how falling is just beyond me man dude uh just saying a former boss
1:56:39
[SPEAKER_09]: Like Britney Spears turned into that ant that you never taught to.
1:56:43
[SPEAKER_09]: That's didn't the bad part of town living in the tour of the park.
1:56:48
[SPEAKER_09]: Just sad man.
1:56:50
[SPEAKER_11]: It's been a party.
1:56:50
[SPEAKER_11]: I look up to my super plan for days.
1:56:54
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, finally, you know, because I like to deliver and my man Tony likes to see the violence.
1:57:03
[SPEAKER_10]: I did.
1:57:04
[SPEAKER_09]: And dude, cyclists have to be some of the dumbest motherfuckers out there, right?
1:57:12
[SPEAKER_09]: Look at this dude, he's in the pipeline.
1:57:15
[SPEAKER_09]: But what?
1:57:16
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a wreck right in front of him.
1:57:20
[SPEAKER_09]: does nothing literally does nothing to avoid it and all whatsoever runs right into the back of a cop motorcycle do get the fuck
1:57:35
[SPEAKER_09]: off of the road, damn shit.
1:57:38
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't deserve to be on the same road with responsible drivers.
1:57:44
[SPEAKER_09]: They are the most entitled businesses are shit.
1:57:47
[SPEAKER_09]: You feel like they own the entire road.
1:57:51
[SPEAKER_09]: Bro, you fucking deserve it.
1:57:54
[SPEAKER_09]: I set more on.
1:57:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny my wife hates that as well.
1:58:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, it's absolutely corinous.
1:58:03
[SPEAKER_11]: That mug was just had his head down looking as long as I'm on the screen.
1:58:06
[SPEAKER_11]: Everything's okay, right?
1:58:08
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, just had no care to look up even one time
1:58:15
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I love that for him.
1:58:17
[SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna need to.
1:58:18
[SPEAKER_11]: I said, okay, what do you got for us?
1:58:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I'm gonna, I couldn't find the article because I was looking at it on my work computer and I can't, you know, so many.
1:58:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously we got the news today that Ozzy Osborne passed away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and which is why it changed like part of me it was like wondering if it was like assisted suicide with the way that he went on this farewell tour with uh you know with his final uh performance and all that stuff and just weeks later we've gone um but again I have no information on that I just make me wonder if there was something going on there um but when you know I was going to look up and it's being what these girls just knew about the path mean I was kind of yeah I've handcuffed an article
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just wondering if this was just a, I written an honest, I'm, I'm half expecting it to be the case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was an article that was basically going through his life and every other paragraph, it was, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: that basically every song that he ever wrote, it was always like the theater of this, the person who created the creator of this, the developer of, yeah, it's just all the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so the entire time I'm just sitting there realizing that so many of our articles and authors or writers or anything like that, I'm not going to be surprised if we find out that eighty percent of
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[SPEAKER_03]: that is newly created is going to be created by artificial intelligence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just icing up the fact that there's just legitimate websites.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm pretty sure it was like a rolling stone's article, by the way, that just how's this absolute garbage?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You should check out John Oliver's bit on AS Slop.
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[SPEAKER_11]: now is what they call it like in that flop.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and it's just like all the stuff that is being put out there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And there's so much of it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He wrote that there was an AI CEO that said, not all AI is spam, but all spam is AI.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And there's a lot of these things going around that people that are all created that people believe in is fine.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's not fine to believe
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[SPEAKER_11]: But when the reason they believe it is because you're like, oh, all you can't just base it off of this video and they're like, no, I saw this other video.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And so it's like an AI, they're like creation of web of fake shit.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Try being a teacher who teaches writing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: to deal with this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's a nightmare.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: My, I do have three, but I'm only going to spend, and I spend a lot of time on the one that's the most political.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'll start with that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Where have you guys seen the video that's been floating around?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's an older event, but now it's big.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The guy that has his window broken by the police.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I, you know what I mean, look, is I generally lean towards like, there's a lot of excess of force used things like this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There's like a full video I watched of like the full stop and it was not it's a lot more I just say that if you just think if you're watching these and it's like this guy's gonna get paid this and that Yeah, there was a long build up to this now I don't know if what the police did and I don't have an opinion on if that's still excessive use I mean, but the guy would get out of his car They were saying I mean they gave him a lot a lot of time and
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now, I don't think that when you pull them out, you've got to be this head again.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I think there's a lot of things that we could talk about, but if you only base your position on that twenty second video or whatever from that one guy, like you didn't see the whole context.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I used up us making giant informed positions about the world on just such a limited context.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, to my real ones,
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[SPEAKER_11]: I know there's a role from music therapy in the world.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is how they wake up kids somewhere from anesthesia.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You bring in a little bit of rough to I feel like this is somebody pop it to be like I thought I was dead with there was a miniature horse play a keyboard.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I feel like this is a little abrasive and the way to imagine direct kid
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[SPEAKER_09]: And you wake up and you see a little sheldon pulling the next to you like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But then you're like on the twilight zone.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I was like a little abrasive wake up here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Is that real?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Is that how they actually wake them up or is that the second one?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think that's the only way they wake them up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, this is the actual handle that I saw the full video of that cop thing on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I was trying to look up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I couldn't spell it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I hate what I can't remember someone's name.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In the wake of
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[SPEAKER_11]: of more Caitlyn Jenner getting shit on by people in the WMBA.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Caitlyn Clark?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Caitlyn Clark.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know how they all like, because so there's this, this other video is like, oh, she wasn't even the meeting.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So they got mad at her for wearing the shirt that they decided all to wear.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like for some reason, this girl, Caitlyn Clark
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[SPEAKER_11]: who made their sport, or continues to make it, the most relevant is ever.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They hate her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But this is after the W MBA all star game, and these W MBAers want to get in this club.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm off my own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's down here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the blue angle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what are you saying today?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll let me go mom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: These are my people.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And they said they give them seven to come in and then she tries to get in more than seven and they make them all leave.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, I set up to, uh, Did you say the same girl is his joke at the SP's?
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[SPEAKER_09]: No.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, his buddy that he does a podcast with Matt McCusker, his wife was sitting next to him and he was like, give it up for Brittany, WWE NBA All-Star, and they put it up on camera and everybody applause, he's like, yeah, just kidding, she's not in the WWE NBA, I just heard that none of y'all would know that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's on a tear right now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I guess I'm iceing up that you try to use your star power, but then you overused it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're like, nah, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Star power runs out at seven.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And then they may them all walk out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I love that.
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