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The Mysterious Death of Mica Miller - Update · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine calling the police 14 separate times to report that
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  Speaker 1: you are being hunted.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you have proof. You have physical tracking devices
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  Speaker 1: found in your vehicle. You have razor blades deliberately placed
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  Speaker 1: in your tires.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You are receiving an endless stream of harassing text messages,
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  Speaker 1: like detailing exactly where you are and what you are doing.
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  Speaker 1: And 14 separate times, the legal system looks at your
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  Speaker 1: proof and essentially tells you there just isn't enough evidence
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  Speaker 1: to protect you.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's completely baffling.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. Today, we are looking at the terrifying
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  Speaker 1: case of Micah Miller. It's a true crime story that
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  Speaker 1: starts with a local law enforcement agency ruling a young
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  Speaker 1: woman's death and open and shut suicide. But it is
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  Speaker 1: since completely unraveled into a massive federal cyber stalking indictment
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  Speaker 1: against her husband.
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  Speaker 2: And it is a case that really forces a very
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  Speaker 2: harsh spotlight on the massive blind spots in how society,
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  Speaker 2: the medical community and law enforcement understand coercive control.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We are looking at a tragedy where the abuse didn't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily look like a broken bone or a black eye. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't the kind of physical violence they look for.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It looked like weaponized legal documents and just this
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  Speaker 2: systematic isolation.
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  Speaker 1: So we are pulling our timeline today from a deeply
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  Speaker 1: researched biography.com article, as well as the honestly harrowing new
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  Speaker 1: three-part Netflix docuseries, Death of a Pastor's Wife, which was
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  Speaker 1: directed by Julia Willoughby Nason. and Micah Sparrow.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tough watch, but it's so important.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And our mission for this deep dive
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  Speaker 1: is to untangle the deeply disturbing final months of 30-year-old
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  Speaker 1: Micah Miller's life. We are going to explore the intersection
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  Speaker 1: of mental health struggles, severe power imbalances, and those really
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  Speaker 1: gray areas of the law. Because as a listener, you
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  Speaker 1: might assume that the law is a safety net, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like it catches you when you have tangible proof of danger.
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  Speaker 1: But this case exposes a massive loophole And how the
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  Speaker 1: system defines an imminent threat. If you've ever felt ignored
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  Speaker 1: by the systems that are literally built to protect you,
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  Speaker 1: Micah's story is going to resonate with you in a
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  Speaker 1: very deep and cautionary way. Okay, let's unpack this. Because
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  Speaker 1: to understand how that system failed Micah so completely, we
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  Speaker 1: have to start at the foundation of her life. long
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  Speaker 1: before the police ever got involved.
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  Speaker 2: Right. To understand the dynamics at play here, you really
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  Speaker 2: have to understand her roots and what was modeled for
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  Speaker 2: her early on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So she was born Micah Acacia Miller on March 7th, 1994,
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  Speaker 2: in Wichita, Kansas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And her parents were Michael Francis and Angelita Ramirez. She
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  Speaker 2: came from a really large family of five siblings.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And eventually they relocated to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And the core pillar of her life and really her
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  Speaker 2: entire family's life was the church.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And she grew up to be highly active in
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  Speaker 1: her local congregation, which was the Solid Rock Church in
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  Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. She eventually became a women's ministry leader and
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  Speaker 1: a pastor's assistant. But this is exactly where the timeline
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  Speaker 1: starts to get, I mean, incredibly uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
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  Speaker 1: Because the head pastor at Solid Rock Church was a
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  Speaker 1: man named John Paul Miller, who went by J.P.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And the origins of their relationship, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: contain red flags that are hard to overstate. JP was
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  Speaker 2: 14 years older than Micah. Wow. She met him when
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  Speaker 2: she was just a child in his congregation. And as
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  Speaker 2: she grew older, she was actually hired to work for
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  Speaker 2: him as a nanny.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a babysitter for his five children, Logan, Zachary, Eli, Asher,
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  Speaker 2: and Selah. And all of this was happening while he
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  Speaker 2: was still married to his first wife, Allison Williams.
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  Speaker 1: And according to the timeline in our sources, an affair
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  Speaker 1: between JP and Micah began in 2015. Right. That ultimately
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  Speaker 1: led to JP divorcing Allison.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And just two years later, in November of 2017, JP
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  Speaker 1: and Micah were married. But I want to pause on
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  Speaker 1: the word affair for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, please do.
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  Speaker 1: Because calling it an affair, I don't know, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like it implies two equal adults making a transgressive choice.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But when you factor in the age gap and how
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  Speaker 1: they met, like, how does that change the psychological foundation
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  Speaker 1: of this marriage?
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that it changes everything. It is
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  Speaker 2: less like a standard marriage and more like a closed
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  Speaker 2: ecosystem where he literally controlled the weather.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We have to look at this psychological blueprint being laid
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  Speaker 2: down here. It wasn't simply a boss-employee dynamic, which, you know,
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  Speaker 2: is fraught enough on its own. Sure. This was an
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  Speaker 2: adult religious leader and a young girl who literally grew
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  Speaker 2: up under his spiritual authority.
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  Speaker 1: It's like planting a sapling directly under the shadow of
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  Speaker 1: a massive oak tree.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a perfect way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because from day one, the sapling has to bend
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  Speaker 1: and contort just to get any sunlight at all. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how could she ever have an equal footing in a marriage...
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  Speaker 1: that started with such a profound structural imbalance.
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  Speaker 2: You really can't because it's not just, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: signs my paychecks. It's he dictates my family's moral reality.
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  Speaker 1: Right. He is the voice of God in that community.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. When you meet someone as a child and they
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  Speaker 2: are the spiritual authority figure for your entire community, they
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  Speaker 2: aren't just a partner to you. They are the architect
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  Speaker 2: of your reality. You are conditioned from childhood to view
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  Speaker 2: this person as the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you even begin to build a boundary
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship when the other person owns the property
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  Speaker 2: line in your own mind?
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  Speaker 1: That is so dark.
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  Speaker 2: It is. The power dynamic was inherently compromised long before
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  Speaker 2: they ever signed a marriage certificate.
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  Speaker 1: And what we see as this story unfolds is that
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  Speaker 1: this extreme imbalance wasn't just a troubling origin story. It
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  Speaker 1: actually became the precise mechanism of control that JP used
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  Speaker 1: when the marriage inevitably began to collapse.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So we fast forward five years into the marriage. It's
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  Speaker 1: October of 2023. And Micah reaches her breaking point. She
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  Speaker 1: files for divorce, citing alleged adultery and growing hostility.
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  Speaker 2: But stepping away from that kind of ingrained power structure,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is rarely a clean break.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding.
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  Speaker 2: In February of 2024, her divorce filing was dismissed. And
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  Speaker 2: immediately following that dismissal, Micah was involuntarily hospitalized at a
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  Speaker 2: mental health facility for 48 hours.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, though. As a listener, this is where the
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  Speaker 1: legal mechanics get really confusing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because you can't just walk into a hospital, flash a
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  Speaker 1: piece of paper and lock your wife up, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like JP held medical power of attorney over Micah. He did.
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  Speaker 1: And he told authorities she was having these, quote, annual
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  Speaker 1: mental health episodes where she would spend large amounts of money.
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  Speaker 1: But don't doctors have to sign off on an involuntary
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  Speaker 1: psychiatric hold?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they do.
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  Speaker 1: So how does a husband, even a pastor, bypass medical
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  Speaker 1: professionals to force a commitment like that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a terrifyingly effective manipulation of the system. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: An involuntary hold, which is often called a 72-hour or
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  Speaker 2: a 48-hour hold, depending on the state, it absolutely does
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  Speaker 2: require medical authorization. Right. But medical professionals have to make
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  Speaker 2: those decisions based on the information presented to them in
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  Speaker 2: a crisis moment.
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  Speaker 1: I see.
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  Speaker 2: If a highly respected community figure, like a pastor, comes
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  Speaker 2: into an emergency room with legal power of attorney... Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he's expressing deep, articulate concern for his wife's safety.
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  Speaker 2: And he presents a very calm narrative of erratic behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Doctors are going to listen.
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  Speaker 1: So he sounds completely reasonable. And she probably sounds hysterical
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  Speaker 1: because she's being locked up. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The abuser relies on the fact that emergency room physicians
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  Speaker 2: are looking at a snapshot of a crisis. They aren't
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  Speaker 2: seeing the decade of coercive control leading up to that moment.
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  Speaker 1: So the medical staff is essentially taking the abuser's word
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  Speaker 1: as clinical context.
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  Speaker 2: Often, yes. And here's where we have to tread carefully
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  Speaker 2: because Micah did have documented struggles. Okay. The medical records
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  Speaker 2: note diagnoses of bipolar disorder and dependent personality disorder. She
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  Speaker 2: also had two previous hospitalizations for suicidal ideation.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, pause for a second. Dependent personality disorder. Yeah. What
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  Speaker 1: does that actually look like in a day-to-day dynamic? Because
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  Speaker 1: if she was conditioned from childhood to defer to him
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  Speaker 1: as a pastor— Like how much of that is a
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  Speaker 1: clinical disorder and how much is just the result of
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  Speaker 1: extreme religious conditioning?
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  Speaker 2: That is the million dollar psychological question. Because dependent personality
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  Speaker 2: disorder or DPD generally manifests as a pervasive excessive need
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  Speaker 2: to be taken care of. It leads to submissive and
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  Speaker 2: clinging behavior and this really intense fear of separation or abandonment.
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  Speaker 2: People with DPD often struggle to make everyday decisions without
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  Speaker 2: an excessive amount of advice and reassurance from others.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that sounds exactly like what you would expect
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  Speaker 1: from someone groomed in that environment.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. If a young woman is raised in an environment
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  Speaker 2: that demands absolute submission to a male religious leader, her
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  Speaker 2: behavior might perfectly mimic DPD.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Or she genuinely had the disorder, making her the perfect
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  Speaker 2: target for a controlling partner.
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  Speaker 1: Either way, it's an extreme vulnerability. It is.
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  Speaker 2: And in the context of domestic abuse, a sophisticated abuser
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  Speaker 2: will absolutely weaponize a victim's real medical history.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that is so insidious.
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  Speaker 2: It really is. Because if a victim has a documented
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  Speaker 2: history of bipolar disorder or DPD, the abuser just points
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  Speaker 2: to those real diagnoses to discredit them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so whenever she cries out for help.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The abuser simply shakes their head and says to
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  Speaker 2: the police or to the doctors, you know, she's having
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  Speaker 2: a manic episode, she's unmedicated, she's not thinking clearly. And
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  Speaker 2: just like that, the victim's very real suffering becomes the
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  Speaker 2: abuser's perfect alibi.
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  Speaker 1: Which is exactly what happened when she was finally released
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  Speaker 1: after those 48 hours.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Micah walks out of the mental health facility only to
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  Speaker 1: discover that her car and her personal belongings are just gone.
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  Speaker 2: Gone.
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  Speaker 1: JP literally told the police that he took her car
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  Speaker 1: because it was, quote, marital property. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And he declared he was keeping it for a month because,
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  Speaker 1: according to his amateur medical assessment, that was the duration
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  Speaker 1: of her alleged episodes. I mean, he completely stripped her
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  Speaker 1: of her physical mobility the second she got out.
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  Speaker 2: He isolated her. That's what they do. And Micah, to
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  Speaker 2: her immense credit, she fought back against this narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she did.
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  Speaker 2: She went to the Myrtle Beach police and stated that
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  Speaker 2: JP had fraudulently had her committed specifically to steal her
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  Speaker 2: vehicle and trap her. Right. And in that same complaint,
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  Speaker 2: she made a really heavy allegation on the record. She
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  Speaker 2: stated he had groomed her for years before they were
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  Speaker 2: ever married.
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  Speaker 1: Which, given their history, totally tracks.
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  Speaker 2: Completely. And her father, Michael Francis, also filed a legal
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  Speaker 2: affidavit stating that JP was intentionally exaggerating Micah's mental health
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  Speaker 2: issues and outright lying about her refusing to take her medication.
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  Speaker 1: So the 48-hour hold ultimately fails to keep her quiet, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: She gets out, and she immediately starts fighting back by
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  Speaker 1: going to the police and filing affidavits. So when an
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  Speaker 1: abuser realizes they can no longer use the legal system
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  Speaker 1: to silence their victim, what do they do? They take
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  Speaker 1: the control underground.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And that is when the physical stalking begins.
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  Speaker 2: And the escalation here is rapid, and it is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: On March 11, 2024, Micah files a request for a
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  Speaker 2: restraining order. Okay. The details she reports to law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: paint a picture of someone being actively hunted. She reported
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  Speaker 2: finding a physical GPS tracking device planted on her car.
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  Speaker 1: A physical tracker, like tangible proof.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. She found razor blades deliberately placed in her tires
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  Speaker 2: to disable her vehicle. She reported being followed by an
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  Speaker 2: unnamed man in public and receiving constant, just harassing text
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  Speaker 2: messages from J.P., Where he was actively tracking and commenting
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  Speaker 2: on her every move.
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  Speaker 1: As a listener, this is the part that makes you
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  Speaker 1: just want to pull your hair out. Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're probably thinking, well, if she had physical tracking
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  Speaker 1: devices and slash tires, why didn't a judge immediately grant
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  Speaker 1: a restraining order?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We are raised to believe that if you just gather
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  Speaker 1: the evidence and go to the authorities, they will put
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  Speaker 1: a shield around you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But she reached out 14 separate times.
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  Speaker 2: 14 times.
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  Speaker 1: And the restraining order was denied. How does the legal
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  Speaker 1: system look at a GPS tracker on a woman's car
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  Speaker 1: and say, sorry, nothing we can do?
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, it runs
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  Speaker 2: because the legal system, particularly in cases of domestic disputes,
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  Speaker 2: is often really archaic. It operates on a framework of
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  Speaker 2: imminent physical violence.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning like actual bodily harm.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. A judge is typically looking for a black eye,
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  Speaker 2: a direct threat of murder on a voicemail or a
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  Speaker 2: documented physical assault. When it comes to coercive control and stalking,
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  Speaker 2: the law gets incredibly murky.
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  Speaker 1: But what about the tracker? How is that not stalking?
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  Speaker 2: Well, for instance, if the car is considered marital property
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  Speaker 2: and his name is on the title.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you've got to be kidding me.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I was. Planting a tracker on his own car,
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  Speaker 2: in quote marks, might not meet the statutory definition of
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  Speaker 2: stalking in certain jurisdictions. As absurd as that sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so the very legal structures of marriage become a
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  Speaker 1: shield for the stalker?
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  Speaker 2: Frequently, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That is just, it's sickening.
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  Speaker 2: The system demands a level of explicit physical threat that Micah,
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  Speaker 2: despite her 14 attempts, apparently couldn't meet in the eyes
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  Speaker 2: of the family court. Coercive control, financial manipulation, psychological warfare,
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  Speaker 2: these things absolutely destroy the person's life. Yeah. But they
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  Speaker 2: don't always leave the kind of evidence a judge has
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  Speaker 2: been trained to look for. It is a reactionary system,
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  Speaker 2: not a preventative one.
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  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, or I guess really
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  Speaker 1: alarming in this context. It looks like the system says,
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  Speaker 1: come back when you're actually bleeding. But Micah, she didn't
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  Speaker 1: give up. On April 15th, 2024, she filed for separation
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  Speaker 1: for a second time.
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  Speaker 2: She was fighting so hard.
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  Speaker 1: She was. She was still trying to use the legal
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  Speaker 1: avenues available to her. But think about how exhausted she
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  Speaker 1: must have been.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, completely depleted.
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  Speaker 1: Reaching out 14 times requires immense bravery. And being rejected
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  Speaker 1: 14 times is just a devastating administrative betrayal. She has
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  Speaker 1: been denied legal protection. Her credibility has been attacked using
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  Speaker 1: her own medical history. And she is living under constant
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  Speaker 1: paranoid surveillance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And just two weeks after filing for that second separation,
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  Speaker 1: she reaches her absolute breaking point.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And on April 27th, 2024, Micah buys a gun
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  Speaker 2: at a pawn shop.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: She drives across the state line to Lumber River State
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  Speaker 2: Park in North Carolina. Right. And before she walks into
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  Speaker 2: the park, she makes one final call. She dials 911,
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  Speaker 2: and she is incredibly lucid.
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  Speaker 1: Which is so chilling. It is.
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  Speaker 2: She clearly states her intentions to the dispatcher, saying, I'm
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  Speaker 2: about to kill myself, and I just want my family
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  Speaker 2: to know where to find me.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: She then specifically asks the dispatcher to trace her phone's location.
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  Speaker 1: Because she knows if she doesn't, she might just vanish.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And her body was later found submerged in the river
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  Speaker 2: with shell casings on the bank. The Robeson County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: Office investigated and they officially ruled her death a suicide.
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  Speaker 1: And that 911 call is just haunting. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: listen to what she's actually saying, it wasn't a crime
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  Speaker 1: to be saved.
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  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: If you want intervention, you tell the dispatcher where you
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  Speaker 1: are before you act. Right? Yeah. You give them a
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  Speaker 1: chance to stop you.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This was a desperate, logistical, final act. Given everything she
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  Speaker 1: had been through, the trackers, the grooming, the gaslighting about
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  Speaker 1: her sanity, she wanted her phone traced because she didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to just disappear. Exactly. She didn't want JP to
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  Speaker 1: control the narrative of her vanishing. Like, oh, she just
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  Speaker 1: ran off or her mental illness made her wander away.
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  Speaker 1: She needed her family to have a definitive answer.
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  Speaker 2: And that interpretation aligns so heavily with the psychological profile
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  Speaker 2: of a victim who feels all agency has been stripped
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  Speaker 2: from them. She was exerting one final tragic piece of
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  Speaker 2: control over how her story would end and how she
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  Speaker 2: would be found.
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  Speaker 1: It's just devastating.
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  Speaker 2: It really is. And initially, it seemed like local law
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: enforcement considered the case closed. The physical, biological cause of
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: death was suicide.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: But the aftermath of her death triggered a massive twist.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, it did. Because shortly after she died, J.P. actually
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: admits to hiring a private investigator to track Micah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Which is just wild to admit.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Right. Now, he claimed he only did it to stop
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: her from buying a gun.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: But this admission, combined with her family speaking out and
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: just growing public outcry, gets the FBI involved. Right. And
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: this is another point where I think we need some clarity.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Why does the FBI care about a local suicide and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: a domestic dispute? What is the legal mechanism that turns
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this from a tragic local case in South Carolina into
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a massive federal investigation?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It all comes down to jurisdiction and the nature of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the crime.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for us.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: So stalking becomes a federal crime when it involves crossing
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: state lines or using interstate commerce and telecommunications. Micah lived
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: in South Carolina, but she died in North Carolina. Furthermore, cyberstalking,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: using GPS trackers, cell phones, and the internet to harass
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and terrorize someone, that falls under federal jurisdiction because it
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: utilizes interstate communication networks.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, so because it's digital, it's federal.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly. When the FBI looked at the sheer volume of
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: digital harassment and the interstate nature of her final days,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: it bypassed local police entirely.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Wow. And what the federal investigators found resulted in a
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: massive indictment. Massive. In December 2025, so more than a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: year after Micah's death, J.P. Miller was indicted on federal
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: charges for cyber-stalking and making false statements.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: The prosecutors alleged that he orchestrated a severe, protracted campaign
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of terror. Like they allege he was sending the harassing texts,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: interfering with her daily activities and even posting a nude
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: photo of her online without her consent. Yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Classic revenge porn.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Revenge porn designed to publicly humiliate her.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: The indictment also alleges he was indeed the one who
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: damaged her tires and that he outright lied about all
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of it when questioned by federal agents.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: He has pleaded not guilty to both counts, of course.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: But the shift from a local suicide ruling to a
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: federal cyber-stalking indictment is profound.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: It really changes everything.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: It does. It highlights that suicide isn't always just a
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: spontaneous act born of internal mental illness. The FBI's involvement
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: points to a catalyst. It suggests that a person's death
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: can be the direct intended result of external, systematic psychological destruction.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? With the tragedy complete
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and the truth finally surfacing in a federal court, we
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: have to look at where everyone is today.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the timeline today is shocking.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It really is. As of August 2026, J.P. Miller, who
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: is now 57, has been released from his duties as
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the head pastor at Solid Rock Church. He's currently out
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: in Bond in South Carolina awaiting his federal trial, which
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: is set for October 2026. But I have to bring
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: up the timeline of his personal life because it left
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: me in sheer disbelief.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly what you're going to say.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: He remarried. Yep. He married his third wife, a woman
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: named Susie Skinner, in September of 2025. That is just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: over a year after Micah's death.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: It's hard to even process.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: He remarried while he was actively under a federal investigation
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: for cyber-stalking his deceased wife.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I just, I can't wrap my head around the apparent
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: lack of pause or reflection or remorse. It's just moving
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: right along to the next marriage. while the FBI is
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: building a case against him.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It is a timeline that certainly speaks to a specific
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: behavioral pattern.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: To say the least.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Right, especially when viewed alongside the allegations in the federal indictment.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: But this raises an important question about how cases of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: coercive control are handled today.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Well, the local legal system in South Carolina failed Micah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Utterly failed her.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Her 14 cries for help were met with administrative dead ends.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: But the documentary format, like the Netflix series by Nason
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and Gasparro, is increasingly stepping in to act as the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: public record when the courts fail.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The director's specifically
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: structured their project to focus on how hard Micah thought
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to be heard.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: They really did.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: They prioritized the voice she was denied in life, giving
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: her family the platform that the family court system absolutely
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: refused to give her.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And this cultural shift, where documentaries and investigative deep dives
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: expose the realities of coercive control, it leads to a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: very heavy final thought.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Lay it on us.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: We look at cases like Micah's, and the biological cause
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: of death is undeniably suicide.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: But when you look at the allegations in the federal indictment,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, if a person systematically destroys another's sanity, isolates
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: them from their support network, publicly humiliates them with revenge porn,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: sabotages their vehicle, and stalks them across state lines to
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the point of a complete mental break, do we need
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a new legal framework?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You mean something beyond cyberstalking?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The source material notes J.P. is charged with cyberstalking
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: and making false statements. And those are serious felonies. Sure.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: But society may need to start asking if our legal
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: definitions of murder and homicide are simply too narrow for
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the digital age.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: We live in an era where a person's will to
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: live can be systematically intentionally dismantled from afar via a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: smartphone and GPS trackers without a single finger ever being
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: laid on them.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Should the legal system have a framework for coerced suicide?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: That is an incredibly heavy question, but it feels entirely necessary.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: It really does.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Because if the law requires you to be bleeding before
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it recognizes you are being attacked, the law is outdated.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Very well said.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Micah's story is a devastating reminder that the most fatal
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: injuries don't always leave physical evidence. And until the legal
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: system learns to recognize the weapons of coercive control, victims
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are just going to keep falling through the cracks.