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Posavant The Masters Of Alterna Prog Hit The Vibe And Video And Music Scene With Hamartyia · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hello, Hey, what's going on? How you
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  Speaker 1: doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great?
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  Speaker 1: How about you doing fantastic? My god, I've got the
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  Speaker 1: music here. I have to be doing great. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to be feeling it too.
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  Speaker 2: Yill, I'm feeling great too.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like to put this project together? Because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love the idea that you guys are
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  Speaker 1: exploring with music that it's not that well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the cookie cutter kind of operation that people have been
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  Speaker 1: doing for the past ten years, but you really dive
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  Speaker 1: into this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, well that's a long story. So basically,
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  Speaker 2: my band post Avant is a bandit ufront with my
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  Speaker 2: brother Nick.
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  Speaker 3: So we've been together since forever. So that's how we
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  Speaker 3: grown up. Having a dad as an avid rocker, so
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  Speaker 3: we were brought up on the seventies and eighties rock music.
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  Speaker 3: And on the other hand, my mom is Chinese, so
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  Speaker 3: he wanted us to be doctors and lawyers. But that
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  Speaker 3: was just a crazy dynamic. But in the end, the
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  Speaker 3: musician and us won that battle. So it was like
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  Speaker 3: years of absorbing various genres and different types of music
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  Speaker 3: and even exploring ourselves, you know, and to both both
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  Speaker 3: the Asian and the American cultures that were just blended
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  Speaker 3: in us. That made this cohesive identity, you know, known
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  Speaker 3: as Posamont. Now, yes, that's why the music feels like
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  Speaker 3: a musical journey, and it's not so much just like
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  Speaker 3: a sub category of a particular genre, even though we
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  Speaker 3: consider ourselves a rock band.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the I mean, I'm so glad that
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  Speaker 1: you use the word journey because in my notes here
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  Speaker 1: I say, I actually put down it feels as if
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  Speaker 1: you're on a journey inside the music. It's locked in
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  Speaker 1: on forward motion. So it's interesting that as the listener
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  Speaker 1: of the music before talking with you, I already felt
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  Speaker 1: that journey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's that's what we're here to do, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't we want to treat it as an experience,
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't just want to present something that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: just the duplicate or influenced heavily by just one particular thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you talk about your mom wanting the doctors
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  Speaker 1: and the lawyers in reality when it comes to a band,
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  Speaker 1: are you not doctors. You're doctors of music. You know
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  Speaker 1: how to make us feel good. And when it's lawyers
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, we got to everything covered. We
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  Speaker 1: got everything covered. Listeners can now go out and have
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  Speaker 1: a great time. I think you've you've that quite well
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  Speaker 1: with the band.
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting way to put it, But it never
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  Speaker 2: really crossed my mind because like we were just always
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  Speaker 2: being in music ever since a young young age, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as the little kids. As little kids, we grew up
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  Speaker 2: in China and we were doing like reality shows, imitating
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  Speaker 2: people like Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley. So we're like,
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  Speaker 2: we went through so many phases as musicians too. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we had our.
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  Speaker 3: Own punk rock band at one point, and we were
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  Speaker 3: a rapper singer dual.
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  Speaker 2: One point, and we even did heavy metal projects recently.
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  Speaker 2: So like all of those experimentations is basically what formed
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  Speaker 2: our musical identity and it's like a fifteen year musical journey.
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  Speaker 2: But this band would have never happened if we never
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  Speaker 2: took those chances and had and had that upbring.
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  Speaker 1: Do you take those chances though? I mean to have
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  Speaker 1: that confidence to be able to say fly or fight
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  Speaker 1: or you know what I mean, fear or flight. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to do one thing. So I mean you guys
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  Speaker 1: obviously took the flight and said let's run with this,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's soar.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you have to, like you have to be
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  Speaker 3: confident in what you're presenting to the audience.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not arrogance and it's not humility.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just you've put so much work in
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  Speaker 3: your art and you want to back in. So like,
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  Speaker 3: we are totally confident, like when we step out there
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  Speaker 3: and we feel that there's no one out there that
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  Speaker 3: sounds like us, and we're definitely going to be a
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  Speaker 3: part of a huge thing that's that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: our future. And in order to present that, like we're
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  Speaker 3: willing to work, you know, and we're willing.
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  Speaker 2: To just present the best music possible, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Well.
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  Speaker 1: The music itself, I mean, har Marsha is one of
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  Speaker 1: those songs that really states who you are. You definitely
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  Speaker 1: make a statement that says, this is us, this is
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  Speaker 1: what we do. Explore all you want, trust me, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We also wanted to just like elaborate on the song
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  Speaker 3: from Marsha itself, for example, like even from a production standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: like we wanted to make a very organic song, like
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to stray from modern music production techniques, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of auto tuning vocals and editing everything
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  Speaker 3: to a grid, over sampling, over using overdubs. So like
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  Speaker 3: a really small thing like example in the song is
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  Speaker 3: like the guitar solo, like I was trying.
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  Speaker 2: To, you know, use the.
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  Speaker 3: Pantera and Van Halen approached the guitar solos where when
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  Speaker 3: the guitar solo starts, you'd hear the rhythm guitars drop out,
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  Speaker 3: so like when the solos come in, like unlike a
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  Speaker 3: lot of songs where the guitar solo would come in
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  Speaker 3: as a third guitar, and it just ruins the illusion
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  Speaker 3: of a like band like which we wanted to preserve
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  Speaker 3: in our records, and even the solo itself like I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm a huge boomer guitar guitarist fand you know I
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  Speaker 3: love guys like you know, Ted NuGen, Like yeah, Rory Gallagher.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I love those guitarists that just have like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of juicy bents and vibratos. But I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to overuse like the rock pentatonic harmonic minor licks.
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  Speaker 3: But but I still wanted to retain the soul of
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  Speaker 3: rock guitar playing. So like it's just the healthy balance
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  Speaker 3: of it all and like being influenced by jazz. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I used a lot of dominant diminished scales, like I
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  Speaker 3: love playing major thirds on top of a minor chords,
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  Speaker 3: something that's like hugely influenced by John McLaughlin and guys
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  Speaker 3: like Chris Poland from Megadeth. So like it's it's really
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  Speaker 3: just like obviously when you listen to it, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not just the modern rock or modern metal production, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, So are you just are you sitting there in
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  Speaker 1: your studio and then and you're building it and you're
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  Speaker 1: layering it because I mean, I mean, I love I'm
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  Speaker 1: so fascinated by the fact that you're layering because I
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  Speaker 1: used to do that with the tape and then to
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  Speaker 1: go into the digital agent things. I mean, it made
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  Speaker 1: it easier for people creativity, but to layer it, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's your imagination is not even here, and then you
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  Speaker 1: bring it back saying, oh, by the way, this is
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  Speaker 1: what I found.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing, because like I'm I just
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  Speaker 3: love how old records sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Like both my brother and I we just love the
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  Speaker 2: sound of you.
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  Speaker 3: You brought up tape, Like, if I had the budget,
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  Speaker 3: you bet your life that I'm going to be recording
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  Speaker 3: with tape, you know. But the thing is, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in this era of ours, like when you have you know,
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  Speaker 3: digital production just right under your fingertips, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: can use daw to like pretty much produce music. But
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  Speaker 3: and it's great to work under a budget, but I
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's also really important that we're not influenced
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  Speaker 3: by just just not being lazy, you know, not putting
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  Speaker 3: in the effort and and putting into creativity to make
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  Speaker 3: music that resonates.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm a generation I'm a gen z kid, But
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  Speaker 3: I love I love the records of the seventies and
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  Speaker 3: of the nineties. I don't listen to any music past
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  Speaker 3: twenty ten.
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  Speaker 2: Just I don't know why it doesn't connect to me
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  Speaker 2: the same day as old records, And I feel like
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  Speaker 2: that has.
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  Speaker 3: To do with the production, you know, it's nothing's polished
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  Speaker 3: like it is now, and the songwriting.
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  Speaker 2: It feels more personal, you know, it feels less corrupt,
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  Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, has anybody from the group Yes reached out to
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  Speaker 1: you or the Imagined Dragons, because I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 1: you've taken what they present in the form of progue
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  Speaker 1: and you've given it a new face, a new identity,
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  Speaker 1: and a new layer of personal growth because you you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I realized that that alternative prague is attached
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  Speaker 1: to your name, but my god, you take it to
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  Speaker 1: such a higher place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the reason why we did we coined the term
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  Speaker 3: alternative progue. It's just to play on two words alternative rock.
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  Speaker 2: And progressive rock. And you mentioned Yes, which is just
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  Speaker 2: I grew up listening to, you know, the Howls guitar.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's it's incredible, Like I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine, you know, what it would be like
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  Speaker 3: for someone like him to hear our music, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and just feel like after so many generations of being
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  Speaker 3: like a pioneer of the progressive rock music and to
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  Speaker 3: eventually here where it's at now, like to hear where
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  Speaker 3: it's where it's at today, and even in my predecessor's
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  Speaker 3: like Pool or like porccupine.
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  Speaker 2: Tree, or even Rush for that matter. Like I am
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  Speaker 2: so into music where people just put in the effort
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  Speaker 2: and try to create art and not so much just
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  Speaker 2: whatever's mainstream or just like this is the quickest way
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  Speaker 2: to get something out there, which is which is how
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  Speaker 2: I feel nowadays about a lot of things. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's really redundant and it's not interesting anymore.
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  Speaker 1: To build that song, Dan, what are we talking like
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  Speaker 1: two three o'clock in the morning or are you building it?
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  Speaker 1: As It's like when I when I come in to
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  Speaker 1: produce or I come in to write, I've got certain
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  Speaker 1: times and through that writing discipline, I'm able to pull
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  Speaker 1: things from it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the songwriting process, because I worked with my brother
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  Speaker 2: since forever, so like we would, we have our ways
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  Speaker 2: to approach a song, and we don't stay up that
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  Speaker 2: late like we're early. We go to bed early good.
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  Speaker 2: So like it's really not rock and rible, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: music is the thing to us that matters more than
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  Speaker 2: the lifestyle, if you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So my approach would be like usually I would come
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  Speaker 3: up with, you know, like a basic form for the song,
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  Speaker 3: like the vocal melodies and some guitar riffs, but the song.
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  Speaker 3: Nick would take it into like his you know, his world,
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  Speaker 3: and then he would basically flesh it out like make
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  Speaker 3: it more, you know, more as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: So like we work together, like really we work.
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  Speaker 3: Really good unison, and like we compliment each other, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes it it's a big it's a struggle.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's because like we both have egos.
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  Speaker 3: Like like get it, like John let In vau mcgartney
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  Speaker 3: or like any great, any great writing duel would would
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  Speaker 3: say that you know, they have the better answer, and
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  Speaker 3: that's I feel like that's how you create good music
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  Speaker 3: because you need the conflict. You need to have disagreements
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  Speaker 3: and to present a better art, which is something that's
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  Speaker 3: really vacant nowadays. Everybody seems like they want to have
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  Speaker 3: like they treat music like a friendship, like people just
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  Speaker 3: hang out and talk and everyone's super chill, and nobody's
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  Speaker 3: fighting to put their ideas inside something to make it better,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why it lacks personality in my opinion, So
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  Speaker 3: like we don't we don't really see the idea eye
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  Speaker 3: all the time.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like the end product speaks for itself,
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  Speaker 4: like we basically put but we both put our influence
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  Speaker 4: into it to make it something that that you hear.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see your handwritten notes inside that
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  Speaker 1: studio when it comes to these song lyrics, because when
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  Speaker 1: because you are breaking the barrier on that you're putting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not only is the music in the background,
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  Speaker 1: the instrumentation spot on, but these lyrics really pull you
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  Speaker 1: in as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well the heart of the song is the lyric
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  Speaker 2: you weren't the God that made you? Now?
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  Speaker 3: The reason why is let me give you a little
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  Speaker 3: bit insight on our music production career. So Nick and I,
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  Speaker 3: my brother and I, we both worked as ghostwriters in
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  Speaker 3: session music post production, like in the US and overseas,
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  Speaker 3: So like we know that there are so many talented
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  Speaker 3: people who work behind the scenes to make it possible
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  Speaker 3: for an artist to shine in the limelight, so to speak.
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  Speaker 3: And I can attest to that because, like I many
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  Speaker 3: times I was screwed over the credits by the artists
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  Speaker 3: and by the producer and I just feel like this
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  Speaker 3: has never been more true than right now. Like, just
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  Speaker 3: look at their credits for any charting song rock music included.
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  Speaker 3: You would find an army of songwriters that are writing
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  Speaker 3: a song for an artist, but no one ever mentions
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  Speaker 3: those people who literally who literally wrote the songs that
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  Speaker 3: the artists get the praise for.
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  Speaker 2: And no one ever mentions the managers or the marketing team,
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  Speaker 2: the engineers that brought the music, you know, and people
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  Speaker 2: like you you know, even like unplugged in totally uncut,
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  Speaker 2: Like nobody ever says like, you know, what broke the Beatles,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like rarely do people say that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: their music was you know, was put on the radio
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  Speaker 2: by so and so by so and so by you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was that was able to reach the masses. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody always just gives most of their credit to the
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  Speaker 3: musicians themselves, which of course I'm not saying that they
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  Speaker 3: are not you know, I'm just saying that they aren't
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  Speaker 3: gods like what their bands snake they are, And I
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  Speaker 3: would say, just worship the music and not the artists itself,
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  Speaker 3: the artists themselves sometimes so like that's that's where the
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  Speaker 3: lyric came from.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 1: I love that idea because back in the early days
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  Speaker 1: of my radio career, we had to know who the
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  Speaker 1: songwriters were because when we did Arbitron and we had
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  Speaker 1: to do all of the stuff so you guys get paid,
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  Speaker 1: we had to put those songwriters down and it was
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  Speaker 1: And the funniest thing about it is, I wish people
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  Speaker 1: would look at their forty fives in their albums, that
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  Speaker 1: little section between the album and the actual label. There's
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  Speaker 1: so much information in there about the record company and
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  Speaker 1: about the songwriters. I just wish people would take the
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  Speaker 1: time to really physically look at these albums and and
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  Speaker 1: where you guys have got to put that legal information at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like it just you know, the most I
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  Speaker 2: always say, like Desmond Childs wrote Living on a Prayer,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you give love of bad Day? But who I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like people like us, like in the industry, we know that.
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  Speaker 2: But how many of bon Jovi's fans know that? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know? Yeah, or do they care to know about that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know. And the same same thing,
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  Speaker 2: like I was saying with the Beatles, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Carol James, the disc jockey from you know, Washington, was
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  Speaker 2: credited for helping them break in the in America. But
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  Speaker 2: we rarely hear them say that. We rarely hear people
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  Speaker 2: mention his name.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that, that's that's that's my point when
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  Speaker 3: I when I say this, so like I understand what
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  Speaker 3: you guys are doing, and I understand that to break
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  Speaker 3: a band or to present good music, there's so much
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  Speaker 3: intricacies that are involved.
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  Speaker 2: So many people that are involved that don't get the credit.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to present that idea to the audience.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Chris from Postavont
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. The name of the new song is Hammersha.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about post Avont and we're back with Chris.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you think that that audience also, so it has
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  Speaker 1: got to participate. Don't just buy the collection of music,
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  Speaker 1: don't just buy the merchandise. If you're gonna wear the
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  Speaker 1: T shirt, talk about the band, have some Don't just
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  Speaker 1: say what shirt am I wearing? Oh that's right? No,
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  Speaker 1: tell me something that you know, because to me, that's
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  Speaker 1: how people find interest in a band. Is that Show
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  Speaker 1: me your passion for the music. Show me everything you
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  Speaker 1: know about this band so that I can go find
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  Speaker 1: them and get into it as well.
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree, And the only issue is that we're
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  Speaker 3: unfortunately living in an era where it's dominated by social media, and.
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  Speaker 2: When they're in an era it's all about the hype.
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  Speaker 2: It's just all about the hype. That's how people get
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  Speaker 2: the word across. Whereas in the nineties or in the
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  Speaker 2: early two thousands, people traded cassette tapes, people went to go,
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  Speaker 2: people actually came and witnessed greatness in front of their
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  Speaker 2: very own eyes instead of just just just a phone
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  Speaker 2: bone script, Like, how do you feel like the energy
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  Speaker 2: or the presence of you know, somebody like let's say
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  Speaker 2: Ozzie for example, or the presence of somebody like Dio,
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  Speaker 2: like without seeing that live, you know, in the eighties,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's not possible.
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  Speaker 3: Like kids these days, they don't understand how fortunate my
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  Speaker 3: dad's generation.
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  Speaker 2: Was to They just listened to music, didn't care half
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  Speaker 2: of them. Like my dad didn't care that Rush wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the most cool band in high school. Everybody was listening
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to kids. I'm not saying this is bad, obviously they
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: are great, but but my dad was into Rush. He
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: was into Yes, he was into bands that weren't necessarily
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the mainstream, you know. Yes, of course later on had
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Owner of a Broken Heart. That was what pushed them
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to the mainstream. But before that, you know, before that,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: they were their own. They were a prog band, and they.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Still are, you know, in my opinion, But I feel
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: like it's just that if people want to join the cause.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously we don't have the power or the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: infrastructure to change trends or to change any of this.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: But I feel like people like us, like musicians, we
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: just have to you know, get off of our ego chair,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: you know, and we have to work with social media
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: to somehow present something that's interesting to the masses, something
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: that's completely different. And I totally feel that post Amon
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: is that thing is definitely the thing that's different.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about your father with the music of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies and stuff. I mean, those were the days, dude,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: where we would stand there with our guitars, no bands
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: around us, the doors were wide open in the house
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and we would emulate those guitar riffs and and that,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And to me, that's where a lot of people found
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: music too, because that's how I found Ozzy Osbourne was
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: because a neighbor up the street was sitting there playing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Osbourne's music on that damn guitar.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the same way my dad found out about Ozzy
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and all the bands, like all the.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Bands that he was in too, be Purple Rainbow or
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: like Zeppelin. So like, I grew up listening to a
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: lot of that, you know, and I really appreciated it
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: because but my dad never sat.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Down and like taught me how to play I don't know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: like Stargazer or Spoke on the Water.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He never sat down and taught me that. Like I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: completely learned. I was self taught for most of my
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: like most of my career, and I feel like it's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: just there's something special about that. It's like it's like,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in a way, music chose me. It chose me to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: be the musician because my dad he never he never
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: went professional like with his career. It was always just
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: like a hobby thing and he was very passionate about it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And he exposed me to great music early on, which
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: eventually shaped you know what we are today. And I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: heard all the stories, so like I'm I'm really envious
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of that. Like I kind of wish I was part
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of your era because I feel like I would have
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: been able to, you know, really live it to the fullest,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you know, And I feel like my musical career would
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: have been better.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You know, man, those were the days of radio, dude,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: where we would get the albums and the forty five's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in and and it was just it was one of
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: those things where we sat around in real authentic meetings
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and I don't even think in radio they do those
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: meetings anymore. And that and that's how we would have
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: bands that such as yours, where we would sit there
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and say, we got to keep our eye on this one.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: This one's got Oh my god, we got to get
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: on this one now before the rest of the other
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: radio world, you know, catches up to us.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I totally believe that, you know. I feel
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: like post Amon is this is a great error for
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: post Amon. Now. Yes, it is the idea that we
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you know, in the idea that we're we've learned how
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to manipulate or how do you utilize, you know, social
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: media to gain more attraction.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: But like it's just the side of me, the musician
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: side of me. I just really wish that I would
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: have been able to hear Highway Out the first time
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: on the radio, you know what I mean, or or
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: have been able to hear innersand on the radio. I
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: don't feel like there's there's anything that you can you
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: can't really describe that, describe how.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: That feels like when you hear something like that that's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: just completely you know that became later on became iconic. Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's something that a lot of listeners don't understand,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll ever look into it, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: they need to know the real journey because you talk
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: about that in the way that being that we are
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: putting things up on streaming. Oh my god, I can't
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: imagine what your email look looks like because there are
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: so many people that are trying to get your songs
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: out there. I know the way, I'm the best that
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: can ever be. Have you trained? And it's like, how
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: do you even decide where to go when all of
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: these so called know it alls or armchair quarterback musicians
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: are trying to guide your career and it's like, no,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we we got it handled. How do you stay strong?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a funny thing because like I'd like to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: take you, you know into the bad name on this
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: For example, Pole Savant so it's start for the words
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: post and savant, and basically it represents the after math
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of becoming a samant at something you do. So there
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: are a lot of sacrifices in this process that both
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: my brother and my family and allows us to see
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the world in a different light. So the funny thing
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned is so many people try to tell
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you what to do and how to you know, a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: lot of people are saying like you lack that one song, right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: we hear that all the time. A lot of people
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: are saying like you need to do this and do
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that to become successful, but just to take you on
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the name, Like a lot of people we've worked with
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: pop band producers, execs and musicians, they told us they
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: hate our bad name. And I'm reminded of the infamous
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: story that Monty Connor, the A and R for Nuclear
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Blast and road Runner Records, told the Depthtones that they
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: would never make it with their name and look where
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: they are now. So if you want to be true
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to yourself, you just got to.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Stick to your guns and not be easily swayed by
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: other people's opinions.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that people don't like the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: band name and because you know, I love it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that really, I totally love it, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I just my my biggest fear is I don't want
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: anybody to come along and say, oh, they're brothers like
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the Van Halen's or their brothers like Oasis. No, no, no,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: this is Postsavon. Let them have their own identity and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: let them grow beyond to inspire the next generation of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: alternative progs.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Eron you you heard it here first.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm plugged until in come.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Oh it's quite the experience. I mean, it's the kind
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of stuff that you want to add to your day
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: no matter where you play. Honestly, I mean you you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: pop that on there and all of a sudden, you're going, God,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: gang it. This is real shit.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I'm like I was saying, it's.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Just that we focused on bringing the musical experience to
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the audience.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, we've released more singles.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: You know, we've released two more singles on trend and
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: other Side, so people can check it out on our Spotify.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: It's just Savant post Avant, and.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: You know, other Side is more of a straightforward for four,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: less progressive and more about you know, getting the crowd
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: to jump up and down type of song, crowd pleaser
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: and untrend.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, it's like an indust real raw
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: stymp so like they help shape the musical.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Experience of posts Avont, And you know, we basically want
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: the audience to know about We're not just a one
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: trick pony and we've got tons of tricks up our sleeves.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And maybe Hamasha isn't the song first off, you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I could care less, but I'm confident that other tracks
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: will eventually impress the listener's ears. And that's what we're
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: here to do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Like, we just want to we want to give them
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a musical experience, the full package, you know what I mean.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: My god, I'm so glad that you explained the name.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And the reason why is because now that you say
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: posts Avon and I'm sitting here looking at the name,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going, oh my god, why didn't I see that
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: be before you explained it? Pope Savant, It's all there
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in the name.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a you know, it's a sort of I
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: guess you can say it's a thinker man's thing, Sinkerman's
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: rock band, you know, kind of how people thought of
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Pool back in the day, and we just we like
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: playing with our audience, Like we don't want to just
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: throw everything out there, because what's the fun in that. Yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: like we all love, we all love like a all
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: we all like we all like.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: A cliffhanger or like a not so obvious ending like
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the thing for example, you know who's the thing? Like,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: we don't know, figure it out yourself, come up with
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: your own imagination, come.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Up with your own you know description, you know of
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: our music and of our style.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Well you're doing that website perfectly. You're you're doing it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the justice and it deserves because when I went on there,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going now I got to see this band live.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Look at that damn light show. Holy crap, they bring
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the whole entire package with them.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we just want to present like music at
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: it's you know, the best form like to us, that's
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: what you're seeing on the website.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: It's all over YouTube on our post Amont channel. Like
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: we really put on a show live and obviously it
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: depends on whichever venue you're playing that because you don't
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: get that kind of luxury at every single show. But
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: we are at a point where we're completely self funded
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: We're an independent, independent band, and and we're.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Just trying everything that we can to present something.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: On a on a budget, you know, which is extremely hard,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you know, especially at a time like right now where
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: like you know, the cost of living and everything's really expensive.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So to get people come out to see independent bands,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to see shows.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: That's definitely definitely a challenge.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: So then are you up for a go fund me
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: in the way that where the fans can help participate
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: with paying for that damn gases? It's three seventy nine
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a gallon and you being out west, my god, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: bet it's up there at least five or six a gallon.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's five or six bucks a gallon right now,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: which is crazy. And yeah, I'm.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Totally down for a gold I'm also down to you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: opening for any band that wants to take post them
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: on on tour.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You know, we definitely rock your socks off. And if
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you don't want the challenge, you know, obviously we're not
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the best opening band because sometimes.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: The headliners want to have that leeway. Yes, when you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, So I read it. If you're up
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: with a challenge, you know you know where to you
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: know where to contact us. Yeah, you know, I'd say
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the same thing for labels. You know, if they're interested
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: in picking us off the map, now is their chance. Yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: because in a few more months or less than a year,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it'll be really our at that point, like we'd be
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: flying off also on the news at that point.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Wow, you talk about that opening band. I'll never forget
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: who opened for the group Kiss. When I saw him
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, it was some new group called
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Cheap Trick, and we're going, who the hell is Cheap Trick?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And then with Arrowsmith it was some new band called
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: ac DC, and it's like, who the hell are these people? Man,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: what are they doing opening up for the band I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: came here to see.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I totally know what you mean. Like I've
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: heard of funny things of an opening band, Like my
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: dad told me once John Cougar Mellencamp opened for Rainbow.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: He opened for Rainbow and the audience just wasn't they
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: weren't having They were throwing oranges on the stage, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: my dad was like saying, like, where the hell did
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: all the oranges come from? And then I said it
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: was probably Blackmore that gave him the oranges. If you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Of course it was of course it was Richie.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: He was the ultimate prankster.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Like if anybody knew about you know, his sadistic pranks,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you know. And and also like there was a situation
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: with Randy Hansett, you know, Jimmy that opened for Rainbow
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and he my dad said, he just he was just
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: on fire, like the dude was. It was like Hendrix
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: came back to the dead and like just penetrated his soul.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And then he said like he was, he just outstaged
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and outplayed Blackmore that night. And guess what that was
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the last time he opened for.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: About for Blackmore.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: So, like I've heard about like various things like when
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: they when the opening act was great, and I've heard
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: when the opening act just wasn't doing it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't give me that lift?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Because I want them to jump on board your path
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and really give you that love and attention that you
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: truly deserve, and to get that word out there on
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Spotify all.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Right, so you can find us on Instagram, tick Talk,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Spotify YouTube. We have tons of live footage of our
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: band in full action and our music, and we even
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: have a lot of shorts.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Some of them are ton ton in cheek, you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: some of them are a bit click baby. But we
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: just we were just having fun.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: There's no bad blood at all.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: We love music and it's just post amon po Savant
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and on Spotify, Apple Music. We're releasing music and we'll
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: be releasing more in the coming months. So just you know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: join drying the new thing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the future. Anytime you guys drop some music, you got
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to come back. And let's let's you got to promote
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it that way. Just keep pushing the envelope, keep pushing forward.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, Like, thank you so much for
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: having us.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, awesome,