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The Secret Life of John Wilkes Booth (Feat. Doc Brown) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 4: Doc Brown is here. He always brings it up to
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  Speaker 4: But before we introduce him, let's introduce the amazing Julia.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Nick, of course, Hell yeah, people go check that
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  Speaker 4: much for coming on man and tonight we got the
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  Speaker 4: Secret Life of John Wilkes Booth. Now, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 4: totally honest with you. This was a topic that I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know really or I didn't know of this situation
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  Speaker 4: until I saw you post about it and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea, And I was like, fucking it.
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  Speaker 4: Hit you upbout it and you're like, yeah, come on,
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  Speaker 4: so well you want to tell us a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: I guess, like, what even got you on to this
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  Speaker 4: topic or made you think about it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I always said that I was a history buff.
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  Speaker 1: I love history, but I always just consumed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the mainstream narrative. And it wasn't until I started
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  Speaker 1: getting in to like the biblical topics and kind of
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  Speaker 1: widely known conspiracies that I started questioning the narrative and
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  Speaker 1: started looking into these other things. And that's something I
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  Speaker 1: even say on the show that I try to try
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  Speaker 1: to take a second look at everything, you know, the histories,
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, all that stuff too, because more times than
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  Speaker 1: not we've been lied to when we go back and
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  Speaker 1: look at it for ourselves. And honestly, I just grabbed
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  Speaker 1: a book. I always go to this place called McKay's
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  Speaker 1: Used Books down in Knoxville. It's like an hour from me.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a three story tall building full of nothing
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  Speaker 1: but books, old vinyl records, collectibles, video games, all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of cool stuff. It's in that building, but I always
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  Speaker 1: go there anytime I'm around Knoxville, and I always spend
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  Speaker 1: at least one hundred bucks every time I go. But
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  Speaker 1: I found this book, and I'll show you guys this.
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  Speaker 1: It's ten of the greatest mysteries been coded, and it's
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  Speaker 1: full of pictures and it's got like little evidence files
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  Speaker 1: you can pull out, you know, like replica documents of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff they're talking about. And that's kind of where
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  Speaker 1: I found this story, and it kind of piqued my interest,
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  Speaker 1: and so then I started deep diving looking into this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, once again, guys, there's pretty compelling evidence that
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  Speaker 1: the man that we were told that shot President Abraham
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln and escaped and like twelve days later was shot
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  Speaker 1: in a barn was a lie. You know, surprise, surprise.
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  Speaker 1: There's all kinds of you know, everybody's got theories and
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  Speaker 1: legends and things like that. But there's a couple that
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  Speaker 1: I found that has a really good paper trail, and
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of went down through it and started
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  Speaker 1: finding this stuff. And I just kind of did a
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  Speaker 1: little show about it on my channel for my paying members,
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  Speaker 1: and I put like a little teaser last week on it.
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  Speaker 1: But like we were talking pre roll, I'm one of
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  Speaker 1: these guys. I'm like the dog with the bone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have to know everything. So I started researching and
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  Speaker 1: I even found some authors that's dedicated their life to
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  Speaker 1: studying into John Wilkes Booth, Jesse James, and then the
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  Speaker 1: Nights of the Golden Circle. So this was a very
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  Speaker 1: deep rabbit hole. So I'm really excited to sit down
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  Speaker 1: and talk to some of these guys that's dedicated thirty
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  Speaker 1: forty years into this topic. But I've been into it
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  Speaker 1: so far for maybe two weeks now, and I found
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  Speaker 1: a lot of really cool stuff. So I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: share it with you and some of you guys that
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  Speaker 1: may be old news, because when I shared some of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff on my social media's and stuff, I had
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  Speaker 1: people saying, man, I've known this for twenty years. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: well I just found out. Bro.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, oh, fuck me for trying to put something
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  Speaker 5: cool out there. I've never heard of it. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, let's we both see what people
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  Speaker 4: see on social media, you know, and it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: these are coming from people who don't have a microphone
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  Speaker 4: and over even their own podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah slackers.
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  Speaker 3: Well this brings up an interesting continuity. So do you
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  Speaker 3: think the Knights of the Golden Circle are tied to
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  Speaker 3: the Society of the Cincinnati and then ultimately the Knights Templar.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with the Cincinnati Society, but honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: Knights of the Golden Circle I had never heard of
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  Speaker 1: until this, and so me, I'm just like, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go see all this stuff. But from what I have
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  Speaker 1: heard and read, it sounds like it's just an offshoot
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  Speaker 1: branch of the Masons. And also it's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of the members once
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  Speaker 1: the organization got quote unquote shut down, uh, just kind
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  Speaker 1: of migrated into the klu Klux Klan movement. But this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing was blew my mind. They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a secret society. But what separates these guys is
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  Speaker 1: they didn't write their stuff down. They were extremely secretive.
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  Speaker 1: So the stuff that we know is just from legends
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  Speaker 1: and lore and or people that has come forward and
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  Speaker 1: kind of admitted on their deathbed to some things. But
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  Speaker 1: basically just in a nutshell, these guys they called themselves
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  Speaker 1: the Night of the Golden Circle because they envisioned a
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  Speaker 1: territory like on a map, in a big circle, and
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  Speaker 1: they called it the Golden Circle. And what they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do was take parts of Canada, North America and
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  Speaker 1: go on into Mexico and circle around to the Caribbeans
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  Speaker 1: and Jamaica and back into Florida. And this was this great,
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  Speaker 1: big Golden Circle. And a lot of the men that
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  Speaker 1: joined this were influential leaders and politics. They were wealthy
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  Speaker 1: farmers and landowners and railroad tycoons. These were the elites
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  Speaker 1: of the time, and they wanted to protect slavery, for one,
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  Speaker 1: because they had a lot of slavery workers fueling their pocket.
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  Speaker 1: But also they just to keep their business kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a monopoly type thing. That's why they even said
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  Speaker 1: it was the Golden Circle. So they were actually putting
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  Speaker 1: these people in this secret society into political office. They
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  Speaker 1: were hanging out at sight of voting booths and intimidating
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  Speaker 1: and beating people to vote the way they wanted them
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  Speaker 1: to vote, and they were even doing what was called filibusting.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't know what this was un till I
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  Speaker 1: kind of went down this rabbit trail always. When I
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  Speaker 1: heard that, I thought of, oh, that's when they refused
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  Speaker 1: to vote in Congress and they're filibusting. But what that
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  Speaker 1: term actually comes from is people, groups, gangs, whatever, would
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  Speaker 1: go and invade a country or town or territory and
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  Speaker 1: set up a colony and then basically just forcefully take
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  Speaker 1: it over. And that's what we've done with Texas guys.
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  Speaker 1: We moved in and set up a colony and then
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  Speaker 1: we just kicked everybody out and beat them up and
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  Speaker 1: took their property from them. And they were actually in
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  Speaker 1: the process of doing this in Mexico, but all their
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  Speaker 1: plans kind of got thwarted because of the Civil War,
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  Speaker 1: and the Civil War through a big ranch in all
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  Speaker 1: their plans.
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  Speaker 3: Well, in some ways, I think this was like the
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  Speaker 3: escape route for these Civil War major characters. Is they
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  Speaker 3: wanted to set up sort of an alternate republican system
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  Speaker 3: within the Gulf of Mexico. And to me, it just
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  Speaker 3: sounds a lot like the Carthaginians, which had this sort
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  Speaker 3: of massive sea empire. You know, they wanted to have
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  Speaker 3: towns every thirty miles all the way around the Mediterranean
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  Speaker 3: and sort of set up this trade network. And so
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  Speaker 3: what they were looking to do is have that same
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  Speaker 3: sort of trade network still processing and putting in these
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  Speaker 3: slaves and you know, put them all over South America
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  Speaker 3: and just sort of take over the place from the coasts,
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  Speaker 3: which was, you know, kind of a popular thing to do,
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  Speaker 3: especially with the Freemasons, the Mason's. Any time they would
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  Speaker 3: have an outpost and a colony or whatever, they would
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  Speaker 3: do the exact same thing that you were just talking about.
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  Speaker 3: The filibuster. They would make sure that nothing else could
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  Speaker 3: get in and they were the only ones providing resources.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was you know, monopolization.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, one hundred percent. And all these main
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  Speaker 1: political figures and these soldiers and the Confederacy and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. They used this Knights of the Golden Circle
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  Speaker 1: as like, how, what's the word I'm looking for? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what was it call when some when the snitch goes
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  Speaker 1: into protective protective custody. They kind of used that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this was a group that had a lot of money,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of influence, and they would harbor these people,
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  Speaker 1: give them money, send them to go hide out, and
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  Speaker 1: they protected them. And John Wilkes Booth was was one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys.
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  Speaker 6: He was in the Confederate States of America.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny, but John Wilkes Booth, he was
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  Speaker 1: in he was a member of it. Uh, the well
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  Speaker 1: known Jesse James was in this group. And once the
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  Speaker 1: Civil War broke out, like I said, it kind of
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  Speaker 1: through a wrench in their plan and they kind of
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  Speaker 1: had to divert their attention. And what was wild was
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  Speaker 1: when I looked into this and once again, guys, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a Southern man. I have my biases like anybody else,
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  Speaker 1: but I am not a proponent of slavery whatsoever. But
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  Speaker 1: the narrative that we were given, or I was given
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  Speaker 1: as a child, was that the Civil War started out
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  Speaker 1: to free the slaves. It was all about ending slavery.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a lie what happened. And this is
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  Speaker 1: once again once again. Once I started looking into this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I found the real narrative was that the Southern states
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to vote for Abraham Lincoln. They didn't want
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  Speaker 1: him as president. And he was going out in public saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey, guys, I'm not coming after the slaves.
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  Speaker 1: I am not a tyrant, I am not a king.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the rights to take away and say
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  Speaker 1: what your state does. The states ruled themselves individually, and
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  Speaker 1: you can vote for me and rest assured I am
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  Speaker 1: not going to take away your slaves. And so he
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  Speaker 1: got voted in. But when you go back and look,
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  Speaker 1: they had the electoral college back then. He won the
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  Speaker 1: presidency without one single electorial point from the South. He
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  Speaker 1: got voted in just from that upper North, and we
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  Speaker 1: see that even today, so that the South was like,
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  Speaker 1: our vote doesn't even count. How come that little strip
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  Speaker 1: of land up there in New England controls the destiny
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  Speaker 1: of the entire country. We're out we're going to succeed
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  Speaker 1: from the union because obviously our vote doesn't count. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what got it all started. And when you go
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  Speaker 1: to Abrah Lincoln's inaugural speech, he says it again. All
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  Speaker 1: my Southern brothers and sisters, rest assured. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: stand by my campaign promise. I am not going after
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  Speaker 1: the slaves. You know, I'm not a king, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a tyrant. The states ruled themselves individually, and I have
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  Speaker 1: no right to take those from you. So rest assured.
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  Speaker 1: You have nothing to worry about, because there was rumors
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  Speaker 1: of succession, but they ended up doing it anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: they were losing to fight, they were losing funding, they
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  Speaker 1: were they wouldn't get enough soldiers to sign up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they were losing. So then they drum up the narrative, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one of the slaves, to get more people to donate
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  Speaker 1: and more people to sign up.
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  Speaker 3: One of the big things that they were using to
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  Speaker 3: unify a lot of the abolitionists that had formerly not
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  Speaker 3: been a factor in these elections they were standing from voting,
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  Speaker 3: is to say that they were going to free the slaves.
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  Speaker 3: Because the Northern miltionists were causing a major start up
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  Speaker 3: in the North, and to get them on their side,
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  Speaker 3: he had to claim he was freeing the slaves. And
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  Speaker 3: what he Abraham Lincoln himself said, if I could unite
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  Speaker 3: the Union without fraying a single slave, I would And
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  Speaker 3: so you kind of have to look at that narrative
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  Speaker 3: a little bit differently. He wanted total control over the
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  Speaker 3: United States. He didn't want there to be any Balkanization.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to have it as a single union. They
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  Speaker 3: were getting ready for their big push out west. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he had to have everybody together and that was a
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  Speaker 3: big factor in Bleeding Kansas for example, Right, So this
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  Speaker 3: is one of these precursors to the war, is this
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  Speaker 3: massive fight out in Bleeding Kansas to determine whether or
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  Speaker 3: not this was going to be a North, you know,
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  Speaker 3: non slavery state and or a Southern state. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: they fought it out there, and this was where John
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  Speaker 3: Brown got his big start. And it wasn't until you know,
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  Speaker 3: later on, when he went up to West Virginia that
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  Speaker 3: you see another one of these big kickoffs for the
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  Speaker 3: Civil War, which was he was attacking magazine and he
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  Speaker 3: was going to free all the slaves and in the process,
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  Speaker 3: he actually kills a black man. So as he's going
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  Speaker 3: towards the magazine, there's a black man there as a witness,
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  Speaker 3: and he's got to shoot the witness so that nobody
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  Speaker 3: gets alerted to the fact that they're about to take
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: over this military site. So, you know, John Brown's though hero,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: He was just a scumbag liberal like the kind that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: we have today. You know, a lot of people don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: realize that even the heroes that they say were on
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the North is just you know, there's not a lot there.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of people don't realize too. It's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like the Northern you know, settlements colonies, what they used
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to be. They were a lot larger territories. And what
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: did they do. They started busting up these large territories
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: into smaller states. And they done that to create more
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: electoral College votes in their favor. That's why even today
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you look at a map and ninety percent of it'll
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: be red or eighty percent of it, and you only
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: got twenty percent, just a couple little blue dots here
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and there. Yeah, their candidate wins because all these little states.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: If Manhattan turns red, whatever Manhattan is, is probably going
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to dictate the whole fucking stea fucking yeah. So looking
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: at how it is in New York, you're like, this
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: is fun.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And they're doing it now just a different way. But
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: they're opening borders and bringing in all these migrants and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: where they're saying, hey, we're the ones that let you in.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You know, you better vote for us. So they're creating
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: more so they can't bust up territories and make smaller
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: states and create more electoralatorial college points now, so now
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they have to flood these already existing states with migrants
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that are going to vote the way that they want
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: them to. And that's why you see all of the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: anctuary cities are all in blue states and blue counties
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: because they're up into population to try to increase their
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: electoral votes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: To exemplify this, where I'm sitting at right now in Wisconsin,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: during the beginning part of the country, this would be
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: considered Virginia. Virginia went out that far. So I mean,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: these these places were getting you know, portioned out, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the South was getting left out of everything. You know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: that's where all the big block states are. And it
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't really seen as equal treatment. But in a lot
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: of ways, the South was more advanced culturally than the North.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: A lot of these European visitors, in European you know, elites,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: wanted to come to the South because it was a
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: much different kind of a culture than it was up north,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: where they had again this immigrant problem and all the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: rest of this stuff that they didn't want to get robbed.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: They didn't want to go to New York. I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: if you've ever seen the movie Gangs of New York,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: it was like that. Pretty much all throughout the northeast, Baltimore,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: all these places were really rough to go to. The
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: more industrialized city base was not nearly as you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: nice and expansive and you know, quiet as the South was.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you remember that movie Gangs in New York,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: when they went to the harbor, all those Irish and
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: English immigrants are coming off the boat. The Union soldiers
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: were sitting there with the table for you to get
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: in and get your assistanceship. You had to sign up
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: for the Union Army, that's right. So I mean that
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: shows you how what a rough shape they were in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and doing everything they could to try to turn the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: tide of the war. So once this happened, once the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: war was over and Lee signed the treaty with Grant. Uh.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: It was just a few days later. It was on
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Good Friday. The North and everybody was celebrating the victory
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and unity. Well, of course the Southern states that just
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you know, lost their shot at freedom that they were
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: trying to get. Uh, they weren't so happy, you know
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that they weren't happy with the situation. They weren't happy
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: with with Lincoln. They wasn't ready to celebrate. And so
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: on that Good Friday, he went to take his wife
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to Ford's Theater and they wanted to watch this play.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: It was called My Something.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Cousin American, My American Cousin.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when the night that John Willis Booth
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: killed the President. And when I got to looking through that,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: there was so much stuff that I didn't realize or know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But John Wills Booth, he was basically our modern day
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. He was a famous, well known actor. You know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he was known to swoon the ladies. He was the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: ladies man, uh, and was just a really famous actor.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And I didn't realize it, but he was so close
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with the owner of the Ford Theater that he even
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: had his mail delivered there. He knew the place like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the back of his hand. Well where he was a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: member of this Knight's that the Golden Circle. Him and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: a group of conspirators got together before the war was over,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and they were planning on kidnapping the president and holding
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: him for ransom to get all the Confederate soldiers released. Well,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: while they were planning all this, the war ended and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: then they started working out trade agreements to release the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Southern prisoners of war. So then therefore his plan was
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: for not so he kind of given up, but he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: went to go pick up his mail, and then the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: owner of the joint was like, hey, we just found
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: out Lincoln's coming tonight to watch the play. He's like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, really okay, So then he drummed up this
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: thing just on the fly. He's like, well, I'm just
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna kill this guy. So he went up
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and drilled a hole in the sight of the wall
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: where he could see like a peep hole and check
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: things out. And he never even tried to hide his identity.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He walked in that night like he owned the place.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Good dad, Yeah, yeah, he said that. He walked in.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: He was shaking hands, talk with everybody like everything was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just hunky dory, and he walked up and of course
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you're thinking the president should have some security detail. Back
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: then he only had one or two guys, and on
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: this night they were a couple of streets down having
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: drinks with friends. And it says that he walks up
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and he knew the play well. And in the third
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: scene there was this big hit moment where everybody starts
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: laughing and makes a lot of ruckus and noise. He
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: planned on going in and shooting him then that way
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: people maybe wouldn't hear the gunshots or notice it. But
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: he snuck in that grand scene he shot the president well.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Nearby officer heard the bang and smelt the sulfur and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: busted in and Booth ends up stabbing him in a struggle.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: And they're in this balcony it's like twelve foot off
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the ground overlooking the stage, and so Booth after he
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: does this, in him being an actor, he couldn't resist
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the chance for a final curtain call. He jumped off
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the balcony and landed onto the stage, but during his
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: landing he broke his leg. He broke his left leg,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but he stands up and turns to the crowd, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of course there's chaos going on, and he proclaims in laighten,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: thus to all tyrants. And he was quoting from Shakespeare
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: when Brutus killed Caesar, because that's what he said. He said,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: thus to all tyrants. And then he took off and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: there he had his friend of his holding his horse
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and ready to for a getaway. And so they ride hard.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think they said they rode like fourteen miles and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: made it to this tavern where there he had food
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: supplies and guns, safehouse. Yeah, basically it was like a
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: tavern cool, and so they got their supplies, never even
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: bothered a booth. Didn't even get off his horse because
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of his broken leg. But he couldn't resist to tell
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: everybody that he just killed the president. He had to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: brag about it. And then he keeps riding down further
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: south and he's in so much pain that he stops
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and sees this doctor. I'm trying to thank me. Look
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's I remember his last name was mud Yeah, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the Whitehouse.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I used to drive by that every day for work.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he went to see him, and he
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was a doctor that he had known and seen before.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Because when the doctor seen him, he knew who he
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was and he reached his leg.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: He's not going south. They're looking for him in the south.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: That's where they assume that he's going to go. So
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: where does he go. He goes up north and east
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: or north and west. So he wasn't he wasn't, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: playing along with the you know, the whole trope. He
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: was going to find a different way to get back
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: to the South because obviously they had headed him off
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: at the past. But on the way out there looking
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: for him, they find this guy named John B. Guida
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: and he was a Italian born Jesuit that was a
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: dead ringer for John Wilkes Booth and they kind of
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: knew each other too. And so this is giving me
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of vibes like the Kennedy assassination, right because
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: they had that a police guy who they called JFK
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: because you know, he was a dead ringer for him.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: There was also multiple olives walds. That's another thing that
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: people talk about. There's multiple oswalts, Like somebody saw him
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: running up the staate, another person saw him like by
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: the grassy knoll, another person saw him like whatever. There
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: was like multiple assassins. They all looked the same and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: they were all Oswald.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: There's a recent picture with Oswald standing close to the
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Kennedy you know limousine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, get up right right. So that's where like the
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: multiple Oswald thing comes in. So there could possibly have
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: been like multiple John Wilkes booth like, you know, to
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: throw people off the trail. But you know, it's interesting
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: to me with this whole Nights of the Golden Circle
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: thing and then quoting Shakespear and you know, Lincoln was
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: doing seances and shit at the White House. It was
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: conjuring shit. Definitely into some weird stuff. And also they
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: say that Lincoln had some form of like weird gigantism
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: and he was probably descended from some weird motherfuckers, uh family, Yeah,
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't like he was
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: yeah right, neflom Ship, It's not It's not like, oh,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: he was just a really tall guy and he liked
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: to wear these top hats that made him look like
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: a fucking magician. No coincidence there, Uh, But no, he
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: had some kind of weird gigantism and he was like
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: half retarded or something like that. Yeah, he probably got
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: a left flip cleft palette like Joaquin Phoenix that got
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: fixed over time. You know, I don't you know, That's
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. He was into some some nefarious ship
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: and so probably was John Wilkes Booth. Oh somebody already
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: commented bee hole. The podcast is complete now, hm hmmm.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: It was a great episode.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Do you remember that one?
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Were you that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I was here for it?
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: It's beautiful in the Mudhouse.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I wasn't here.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was in the chat.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah you were the chat. Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Doctor Mud fixed his leg.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Doctor Mutty reset his leg. And what was
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: crazy is he knew John Wilkes Booth he was part
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of the conspirators that were going to kidnap him. But
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he had no idea that he killed the president because,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like I said, this was a last minute thing. He's like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wing it. And like Hedla said, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he kind of went north for a little bit before
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: he started going to Maryland. Yeah, Maryland first, because he
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: was he was panicked, he was freaking out. He's kind
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of playing it as he went along because it wasn't planned.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: This was a spur of the moment thing, and so
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the the doctor set his leg, let him stay at
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: his house, and he went to town the next morning
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and he's seen the Union soldiers and everybody talking about
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the old the president was just shot last night, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he was just like, oh my god, he did it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: He did it. So then he goes back and he's like, hey,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to rat you out, man, but you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: cannot stay here. You're gonna, you know, implement me in this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You've got to go. So they pack up and they
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: take off, and then here's where they go to that
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that farm. What was the name of that farm? I
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: got it in my notes, but it was Garrett Farm.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Garrett Garrett Farm. Yeah, And the way the main sta narrative, Yeah,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the mainstream narrative is that they go to this barn
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and they stay with this family for two to three days.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And even when I first heard that, I was like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: this is guy that just killed the president. He's on
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the run. He's not gonna stay somewhere two or three days. Man,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He's going to be one to be moving. I mean,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that's how I'd want to be. I'm like, I ain't
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: sitting still. I'm moving because every day I'm sitting still
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: they're gaining on me. And they said that on that
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: night that somehow the Union soldiers found out he was there.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And what I had heard through some people was that
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: this family, this Garrett family, had found out who he
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: was what he done, and they played it nice and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: sent somebody out to town to tell the union and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: then told them, you know, hey, we know you guys
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: are doing some of the various stuff. You're just gonna
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have to sleep in the barn tonight and tomorrow you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: going to be on your way. And supposedly they locked
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: them in the barn, the tobacco barn, until the Union
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: soldiers showed up, and that they burned the barn down
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to smoke them out, and his co conspirator, George comes
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: out with his hands up and surrenders. And uh, they
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: say that John Wilkes Booth come out with a rifle
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: in hand, and he was shot in the neck and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: was killed. And that's the mainstream narrative that we're given.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: And what I had found going through here was that
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the man that they killed was not John Wilkes Booth,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and they believe it to be this guy named James Boyd,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And uh, can I do a screenschair you can. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to show you guys this picture this guy that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: way people can kind of just see the comparison here. Uh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: let's see is that the plus button share. Yeah. Uh.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Something to be noted here about the tobacco barn, because
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: tobacco barns are classically all open the air circular around
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: the tobacco so that it can dry out properly, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: it takes about a year for it to try out.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: So these things are open all the top. There's no
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: way that you can lock somebody in a tobacco barn
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: because all they'd have to do is slip out one
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: of the open ports that are open all the way
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: around this thing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there was hundreds of doors and they were
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: all on hinges and they swung open to let the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: breeze in to air the tobacco out. And this guy
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: right here, this picture, this, I believe it or not,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: is not John Wilkes Booth James. This is James Boyd
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And you cannot tell me that this is that dude's doppelganger.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Broke a lot of like and then some people want
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, well, if this is the man
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: they killed, how did he wind up in the barn
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: with that George guy. Well, they interviewed all these different
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: soldiers that helped them cross the river and to get
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to this farm and set him up there. The Unions
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: found him and beat him and question them till they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: spilled the beans. This Boyd guy was a Confederate soldier.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He also was in the Knights of the Golden Circle,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and he aided Booth into crossing the river and gett
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: him a ferry and set him up with these garrets.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And when Booth went to pay him for his services
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: for helping him, he realized his wallet was missing. And
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: he told Boyd that he had left his wallet on
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the ferry that if he would go and retrieve his
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: wallet for him, he would pay him even more money
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: he'd bring it back to him. So they go on
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to the barn and Boyd goes to retrieve the wallet
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and the money. Well, during this time they said that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Booth become anxious and didn't want to stay there, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: George didn't want to go with him, so he went on.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: His only left well while they were waiting for him,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and he took off. Boyd returns with the wallet and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the money, and it was late at night, he had
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: nowhere to go, so he stayed in the barn. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that was the guy they killed that night. And this
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: guy's a dead ringer. And when they took his body
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to the I can't remember the name of that, it
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was some kind of military ship that there was a
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: doctor there and they took him there for an autopsy
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and examination, and the doctor was a Frederick May. This guy,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Frederick May, was a physition of Booth and just a
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: year or two prior had removed a growth from the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: back of his neck, so he knew him well. When
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: May seen the body, they called him to identify the body.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: When he first seen the body, he said, this is
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: not John Will's Booth. And then his family still has
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: his records, and in his records he said, when he's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: seen the body, it looked nothing like Booth and that, uh,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: he had a broken right leg. All the accounts said
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: he broke his left leg, not his right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: You think they broke his wrong leg after they shot
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: him to make it look like it, Because I was
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: gonna say, wouldn't you just have to see if this
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: guy had a fucked up leg, you know, just to
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: make sure if it was the real booth or not.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: So they broke the wrong leg on some fucking hurry
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: up cover job, sloppy bullshit.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: This is like the it doesn't even bother to.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Break the right fucking leg.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: The leg the broke.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: This is like, this is like the flap of skin
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: on Kennedy's forehead that they cut open. It was so obvious,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: but you know, everybody kind of passes it over. What
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: are you gonna do about it?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing that when I seen that, I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: was like, the guy that operated on his neck knew
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: him well, said no, that's not him. And then even
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in his own notes, states that the wrong leg was broken,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and but then later that the people that want to
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: go with the mainstream narrative and says, oh, well, he
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: later recanted after he got to looking at it closer,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that the guy had a scar on the back of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: his neck, and yeah, that that was where he removed
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: that growth that he had. And he later recanted once
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he got a better look at him, Well, no, the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: government quite put a gun to his head and told him,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, our president was just killed and the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: killer got away, and we're not going back to Washington
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and say that he got away. Uh, so we need
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: some stability in the country. And I'm not going back
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to Washington saying that we screwed up. So you're going
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to say this is him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Is the bad guy? They just it didn't matter, like
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: they just needed they just needed to get the bad guy.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: They ran across somebody that looked like John Wolke's booth
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: on their way searching around for him, and they shot him.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, well, he does kind of look
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: like John Wolke's booth.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Not a good day to look like John wilkes booth. No,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: not at all. He look like him though, I mean he.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Does for sure. Some of his descendants and like other
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: researchers have like attempted to get the body exhumed right
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: to do DNA comparison. But I find it weird that
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: all the requests have been denied. Yes, I mean, you
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: want to know, it's not like they've exhumed bodies all
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: the time on a regular basis. But you know, if
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: if the family like descendants are actually requesting, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: let's do it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they actually have a piece of the spinal
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the vertebrae of the cadaver that they killed that they
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: believe is John Wilkes booth. That it's put up like
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the museum or archive somewhere, and it even has
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the bullet hole through it. And they even studied that,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and they said that the guy that's in their reports
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that shot John Wilkes booth was like five foot four
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: or something like that. He was short guy, and that
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: booth was like six foot and they said so when
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: they shot, the guy examined that vertebrae and said it
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: was at a twenty degree downward angle. He said, there's
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: no way that that guy made that shot because he's
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: shorter than him. It had been going up instead of down.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: This is like the argument I make for the fake
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Paul McCartney. How the fuck did he gain like three feet?
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: The real Paul was like super short, you know what
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, And then the accident happened and then he,
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: like all of a sudden, was six foot tall. And people,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: you know, don't know that, because how many times do
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: you fucking get to meet Paul McCartney. He's not just
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: gonna be at Walmart one day like, oh, you're super
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: fucking tall. When did that happen? Nobody the general public
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: is not gonna know that he puts those.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Things in his shoes.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I'm saying.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Though, It's like it's like with this with this cadaver thing.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: It's like, the real John Wilkes Booth is super fucking tall,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: but this body that they found is like five to two, right,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: But the general public is not gonna know that. Nobody
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: knows how tall John Wilkes Booth is. Like that's that's
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: like obscure information.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: M Yeah. And and when I got to looking into that,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like I said, I found a couple theories that show
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that he lived of you know, like forty years after
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: this incident.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and nineteen hundreds.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a couple of them. There's, of course,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch, but there was a couple that really
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like grabbed me and it was like, man, this is
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: this is plausible to me. And a lot of people
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: got to wrap their minds around the eighteen hundreds. Man,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: there was no internet, there was no telephone. All you
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: had was eyewitness statements on people and drawings of wanted papers.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: News didn't travel fast. It would be very easy for
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you to fake your death and slip away into oblivion.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think, just very easy.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, people did it all the time.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: And this guy what I found, I'm sorry, Well, I
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: was just saying, do you know, like if or what
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: he like changed his name to or like anything like that.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was several and like I said, the one
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that I found that I thought was really compelling was
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: right here. It says that a ninety year old woman.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: This is you know, hundreds of years later, but it
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: says this nine year old woman named Janita Kelly. She
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: was a living relative of Louisa Payne, and she decided
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to spill the family secret and she said, quote, my
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: grandmother's sister married John Wilkes Booth, but they were already
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: married when he revealed his true identity. And she went
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: on to say that the name Booth was going by
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: at the time was John Saint Helen and says shortly
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: after they were married, Booth came clean to his wife, Louisa,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and she was so flabbergasted, being the Christian woman that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: she was, she demanded that they go back and remarry
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and refile under the correct name. And according to Franklin County, Tennessee,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: their court record show in the marriage registry that John
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Wilkes Booth married Louisa Payne with his signature on it
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: matching from February the twenty fourth, eighteen seventy two, and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that's seven years after the supposed assassination.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Pussy'll do that to you, make you go back and
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: fucking redo your name after you've assassinated the president? Like,
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: come on that right, got come on?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And when I've seen that, I was like, oh
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: my gosh, okay. So now I followed this thread because
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it was in Tennessee. I was like, oh man, this
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is home court here. I gotta kind of look this out.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But it said that this was a closely held family
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: secret until Kelly came forward. When she was asked why
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: she was coming forward now, she said it was not
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: talked about outside the family. She said, but I'm coming
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: forward now because I'm ninety years old. And besides, all
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the people that would have gotten into trouble over it
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: are long gone now. So after they got married, they
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: moved off to Memphis to start their new life together,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: and it says that Luisa became homesick after a few
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: months and that she wanted to go back home, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that Booth told her, We'll go ahead go on in
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: front of me. I'll stay behind. I'll work a little more,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: save some money, and I'll come back to Middle Tennessee
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and we'll buy some land and build a house and
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: we'll start our new lives together. Just go on ahead
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of me. And so she goes back home, but Booth
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: never returns, and he ends up going to Texas according
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to this storyline, and befriends this guy, Phineas Bates, who's
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a lawyer, and his great granddaughter has his records and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the family stories that he befriended this John Saint Helen,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and that he becomes sick and on his deathbed confessed
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to Bates that he was John Wilkes Booth, and he
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to come clean before he died and wanted him
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to know well. He ended up making it through the night.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: He didn't die, but when Bates went back to check
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: on him, he was gone. He packed up and left,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and they said. It was a few years later that
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Bates had seen an obituary in the I think it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was Oneida, Oklahoma paper, and it had the name of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: John Saint Helen, and it matched his how old he
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: was and everything else. So he wanted to see if
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: this was him. So he travels up to Oklahoma and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: goes to the mortuary where he was being held, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the mortuary said, oh, are you his family. He's like, no,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I believe he's a friend of mine, but I wanted
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to come and be sure. And he said, well, come
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and identify the body, because nobody's come forward to claim
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the body or identify it. So you're the only person
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: we got, so come look at him and verify who
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: this is. And Bates went in and he said, without
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you know, any kind of second thought or hesitates, that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: this is John Saint Helen. And then when he got
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to talking to some of the people that found his
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: body and everything, that he once again thought he was
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: dying and confessed to the people there that he was
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in fact John Wilkes Booth and that he supposedly killed
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: himself by drinking arsenic. And the arsenic they didn't know
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: what it was. They just thought, you know, he died.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: They found out later because when they embalmed the guy
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: mixed with that arsenic, it petrified and mummified him, so
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: it perfectly preserved him, froze him in time, and nobody
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: would take the body, so it was given to Bates,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and Bates takes it home and puts it in his garage,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and then he tries to even sell the people.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting with the tumple of the sucker of
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the house.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he tries to sell to the corpse the mummy
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to people and says, oh, this is the famous John
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: wilkes booth. And he even almost sold it to Henry Ford.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: He prized it to Henry Ford for one thousand dollars
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and he almost bought it, but he backed out last minute.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So Phineas Bates dies with this petrified mummy in his garage.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So when he got yeah, his wife.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Tries about the name baits man.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and she ends up selling it to a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: traveling carnival like a freak show. And this body toward
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the United States and you can see like a quarter
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: all the way up till like the nineteen seventies, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it suddenly disappeared, never to be seen again.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Man, they just they strung lights up on him and
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: decorated him like a Christmas serie, like he, what the fuck.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Twenty five cents come see that John wilkeson who faked
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: his death and lived many years after.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: So he was mummified sold to a circus, but we're
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: not allowed to dig up the cadaver body, Like, how
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: is this okay? How is it okay to have a
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: human mummy in your house and sell it to a
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: circus but we can't exhume the grave?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: This is so sacrilegious? Anyways?
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Are we sure this isn't the myth of Osiris? Are
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: we getting a little bit of you know, Masonic mythology here,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: because yeah, this has sounded really strange, like almost like
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: each one of these phases are planned out and mythologized
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: in some way.
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: So what did they do like after the circus act
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: or whatever they just used him for like firewood or
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: something like did they ever bury the corpse.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Or what disappeared? They don't know what happened to it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Disappeared equals firewood?
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe yup?
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: They grounded him up and turned him into toilet paper
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: or something.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Right, but it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Wasn't cocaine in the in the White House when they
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: found it. There was actually John Wilkes all ground up
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: and they were sniffing it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: That'll get you high every time, but it'll give you
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: a pain in your left leg. For some reason.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not the right one. Yeah. And another one that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I found that was really interesting was that he supposedly
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: stole the identity. So this was modern day identity or
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I misspoke ancient identity theft, but he stole the identity
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: of an englishman. And uh, you go down here and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: find his name, m John Saint Helen. Uh oh. And
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention when he moved off to Oklahoma,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he had changed his name and went by David E. George. Yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and it appears to be a code. Two of Booth's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: conspirators were David Harold and George E. Azerot, So it's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: like he took the two names of his buddies that
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: combined them.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: There.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: But let's see, okay, Yeah, like you guys had mentioned
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four, they petitioned, petitioned to have his
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: remains exumed to have DNA testing to put all this
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: stuff to bed, because there's a lot of people that
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: come forward and said that they were children of Booth
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: from relations outside of marriage while he was on the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: run but supposedly dead, and so they wanted to do
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the DNA testing to put this to bed. And at
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: first the judge agreed, and then later someone unknown and
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: talked to the judge and then he changed his mind
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and he pulled the whole thing being done. But Chuck Hubert,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: he was a John Wills Booth researcher. And here's what
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I was saying. He claimed to pull off what we
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: call identity theft today. He stole the identity of an
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Englishman that was visiting Indiana at the time, and he
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: was named John B. Wilkes, so very similar. But he
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: was born in Sheffield, England in eighteen twenty two. But
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: there he stole his identity and went to India and
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: remained there until his death in eighteen eighty three. Chuck
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: also believes Booth returned to the United States in eighteen
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: seventy three and was photographed. And they have a photograph
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: of John B. Wilkes during that last visit and it
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: looks identical to Booth. And I have that picture too,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: check that out images.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: That sounds like that's the Golden Circle ship because he's
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: down there in South America.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: Well, and just think he had being an actor. He man, sorry,
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: I can't even talk when I read that.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: What was they saying?
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: Because he was a good actor and he could do
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: an English accent. So I mean, yess he could probably
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: pull that out.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I mean even being the actor. Yeah, I mean how
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: could he get of course?
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: You people, so what are we looking at right here?
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: That that is the two guys that the John Wilke
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and John B. Wilkes.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, see this is like.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: The no I lied to. That is the other guy.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: Is the person between John Wilkes is on the left
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: and the other.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Guy the Thelloyd James Boyd.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: James Boyd was on the rest.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: One does what happened?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Did James Boyd not have any friends of family or
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: did they not notice he was gone?
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: He was an unsavory fucker if nobody noticed.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: What happened during all this time. They've even documented it's
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in the records. He was a Confederate soldier and he
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: was captured and was a prisoner of war and they
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: petitioned to have him released and he was just recently released.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And that's that was the last documentation that they had
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: of the guy was right around this time of the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: assassination that he was set free. But that's that's the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: guy from the Englishman.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: They all have the same like mustache and receding hairline
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: thing going on.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Well, look like Mark Mystic Mark from my family thinks
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I'm crazy. I think he's the descendant of John.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: So the British connection really interests me because you know
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of people say that the British were bankrolling
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: the South and that they they were invested in the
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: nights of the Golden Circle idea just kind of break
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: up the Union.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: So if he's if he's throwing his lot in with
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: the British and going by this British accent and everything else,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: that kind of makes sense.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing. He had the money and
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: the ties of the Golden Circle, and you got to remember, uh,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: this is another rabbit trail, but it kind of ties
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: in was uh the Confederates, they had their capital up
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: there in Richmond, right there on the border of the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: North Well the last stand. Robert E. Lee was trying
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to hold him back, and he told Davis, you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it's a losing battle. It's just a matter of time
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: before they get past our men and they hit the capitol.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: So Davis told him, just buy me twenty four hours.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Give me twenty four hours to get my cabinet out
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: and to save the treasury, and it was documented in
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: today's money there was two hundred million dollars in the
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Confederate treasury. So he gave him twenty four hours and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: he loaded up nine trains with his cabinet and all
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of the money and started heading south. And here's where
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you get this quote unquote conspiracy. Now, this is all
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: happening at the same time with the John Wills booth stuff. Okay,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: they stop off in North Carolina and they have a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: log and don't quote me on the number, but when
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: they stopped in North Carolina, they stopped off for a
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: minute and then traveled further south. But the logs reflect
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that there was the equivalent of of like twenty million
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: dollars gone that got unloaded there. Then they go down
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: into Georgia, they make another stop once again, here's another
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: forty or fifty million dollars missing from the log book.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like every stop they took that kept dwindling down,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: dwindling down, and that they finally make it to their
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: destination and they deposit the money into this bank. And
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the deposit note was for I want to say to
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the equival today of like fifty million dollars, So there
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: was one hundred and fifty million dollars missing from this ride,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and they say that he handed it over to members
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of the Knights of the Golden Circle and they hid
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: it all over the country as Stasius because they said
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: they wanted to have enough money put back for when
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the South rose again, they'd have enough money to have
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: an army. And then you have all these treasure hunters
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: to this day talking about the mystery glyph all over
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the world. Even Jesse James is tied into this. Uh.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: You find all of these symbols and coded language that
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: is known to be associated with the Knights of the
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Golden Circle and its treasure maps leading to all these stashes.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Is the is the tail. So they had all this money,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it would be nothing for them to shell out some
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: money to send somebody that's helped them, and it's a
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: brother of theirs, to start a new life in India.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Well, all over Missouri they have caves that they claim
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Jesse James stash is golden or stashing the money. But
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: you know that that whole thing really smocks of the
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Knights Templar, because if you know about Oak Island, you
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: know they've got these huge treasure vaults, and you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: this whole treasure train and all the rest of the
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: stuff about the South Rising and grind very very similar
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: to that. And just recently they took down the Roberty
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Lee statue and inside of it was a tide cops
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: and you could you could watch on the videos online
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: video this woman is going through all the artifacts inside
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: of this tide capsule and she pulls out a postcard
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: by the Knight's templar inside of the Roberty least, don't
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: you And she she lifts it up and you could
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: audibly hear her say, oh no, is it not supposed
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: to talk about that? You know there it is right
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: there in the baskit here what she does the mythology,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: and she doesn't want to get bogged out with that
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: because again, this is one of the oldest conspiracies in
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: the United States.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. And this also sounds like the plot for
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: National Treasure two.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You know why is going on because one of the
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: main consultants for that movie was Bob Brewer, and he's
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: a world famous treasure hunter. And you know what, he's
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: famous for hunting and finding these treasures rose from the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Knights of the Golden Circle. He's the expert on all
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: these temples and stuff, and so National Treasury reached out
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: to him and he was a consultant for that show.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Well you've got so you brought up Oak Island. The
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: guys in Oak Island were also looking for the uh
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: one of the stashes of Confederate gold that allegedly uh
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: thank in Lake Michigan, like some of the barges or something.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: M So, that's that's a pretty crazy one. There was
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: a deathbed confession and all kinds of stuff going on there.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: It's a crazy story too.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway, they caught them sentinels because the money they give
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the trophes to these guys, and they caught them sentinels
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and they were to guard this with their life and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: then when they died, you know, or was close to dying,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: they would have to pass it to another sentinel, which
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: was their son or something like that. And you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: it's a good possibility that some these kids would be like,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it's junk, or I ain't doing that.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And they wentn't thinking, you know, because when they were
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: making these carvings in these stones and in these trees,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: because they've done a lot of them in trees. It's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: been you know, one hundred years, one hundred and fifty years.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Those trees that were once eye level are now way
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: up here and you can't even see them anymore. But
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: to corroborate that whole story with him going to India,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people to say, oh, you can
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: just make up anything, but there's a document trail with
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: that one. Also. When he died in eighteen eighty three,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: this was eighteen years after his supposed death. He was
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: executed in India for a crime. But before they killed him,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: they allowed him to leave a last will and testament.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: And in the will and testament, I'll read you some
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: of the stuff here and why I kai I told
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you is a little bit about this pre roll. But
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: in his will it says twenty five thousand dollars to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: ogre ree Rosalie Wilkes, and it says in quotation natural
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: heir of my body. She was Boost's daughter by his
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: wife Azola. Then another twenty yeah, another twenty five thousand
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: dollars to marry Louis Turner, and it says quotations natural
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: heir of my body. This was the daughter of John's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: mistress of the time of Lincoln's murder, Ella Turner, And
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: then it says one thousand dollars a year to Henry Johnson,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: quote a free negro to whom I owe my very life.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Johnson was Boost's personal valet who helped him escape up
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: to Harber's ferry in West Virginia. So why would an
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Englishman living in India care so much for all of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: John Wilkes Booth's wife's girlfriend's daughters in valet.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good fucking question. I have a question too, though,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: How do we know that they didn't set this whole
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: fucking thing up for the other guy to get shot
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: instead of him, Like that was part of the plan
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: all along, and Boyd or whatever the fuck his name
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: was just didn't know it. He was like an unwilling
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: participant in his own death kind of thing.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have very well been, because.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, it's like for him to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: have this life as well. Yeah, because it's like he
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: went on to live this kind of exotic life. You know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: he's going here there, he's married to this person, that
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: person changing his name, going to India. It's like it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: was set up for him to get away basically, which
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: by the way, I don't right, But it's like it's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: like with Oswald. I don't think the body that's in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: the casket that they bear eat and said this is Oswald.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if that's actually Oswald. And it's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: just like some dude that they fucking killed and oh yeah,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: we got him, guys, we shot him instead, like they
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: they fake a lot of this stuff, even going back
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: to you know, Civil War days, I still think they
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: were faking people's death and shit and fucking covering stuff up.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: So I mean just saying goods for that.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And it was proven on a lot of them that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: they were freaking their desks back then, because like we
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, it was very easy during this
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: same death like six times. Yeah.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: One thing I keep coming back to is how lit
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: it would be to be on a conspiracy podcast in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: the eighteen seventies. I mean, holy fucking they had all
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: the good shit back then.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: Did you guys watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: I did. It's quite entertainment.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: I liked it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: Entertaining me. It's a president, man, that's it. A vampires.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: What we don't know is part of the John Wilkes
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: boost story is that they were actually all hunting fucking vampires.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: Actually really liked that movie. Every time I ask somebody
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: if they watched it, they asked me if I'm retarded
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: or something like, It's like, why would you even watch
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: something called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter? But it's actually really
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: good and they.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Really cool with him sitting in that chair.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, and he's got like his axe and yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that he did live a double life.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: Though I don't know if he was a fucking vampire hunter,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: but I do think he led a double life. Lincoln,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: did I think that this whole thing? Probably?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: He like giant and bee hole. He just likes to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: get it plugged.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: We always come back to this.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Sleep as a dude.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: Didn't there Sun at the times headless?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Probably?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: But I had a friends see me a reel today
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: It said more proof that the giants are real and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it showed these guys like in this ship pulling up
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: something from the bottom of the ocean and it was
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: a huge like iron butt plug.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: Literally literally. Yeah, but didn't the Lincoln Sun die weird? Too?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: Like at a young age, or something like that, and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: there's like some weird stufferund Yeah. See, that's that comes
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: from the weird NFL bloodline, those those blood disorders and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: the you know but stuff.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, extra fingers, genetical malfunctions.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: I actually know a guy who has six toes.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Oh you know.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I six fingers.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I was told the extra digits remove the plastic surgeries
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: a lot more common than.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, well I want another blood type.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: Too, would you say about the blood type?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're probably all our H negative Oh.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I mean I think I heard something about
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: oh negative being significant to you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it could be like the royal.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: Family kind of covets the O nags.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because it's a it's just a who knows,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, we can that's a whole other episode.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: I do have suspicions though about Lincoln. I mean, like
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: his weird height, and like the seances and ship at
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: that White House, their kid wife.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Really weird stuff too, the Lincoln monument, I mean, they
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: make him super huge. They put him in this Roman
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: style temple at the end of this reflecting pool, like.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: There's almost right, there's.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Something really religious about that place. And they were going
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: for something that it was an ancient religion with the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: entire layout of Washington, d C.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: So having him a giant, as if symbolism wasn't enough
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: for them, they have to like take him and make
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: him a giant that looks over everybody. And it's you know.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: Sitting there looking the.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Water.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: I can't even say it.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Do you know the signific into that reflecting pool.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: It's imagine a while, well it.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Could be, but yeah, there's there's high, high level goddess
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: magic going on there. So during the ancient Roman days,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: they had this place called the Diana's Mirror, Right, This
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: was the district for Diana, and they had this big
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: reflecting pool. And this is talked about in James George
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Fraser's Golden Bow. This was where they would have the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Golden Bow ritual where they would have the death of
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: a king ritual. Right, And so Diana Nemorensis was the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: name of the goddess there. And this Diana Nemorensis ritual
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: would take place where a escaped slave or you know,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: some other prisoner would go to this grove and then
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: pull a bow off at the top of the tree
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: and then the old king of the grove would have
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: to fight this new guy, and whoever killed the other
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: one would become the new king of the grove. Right,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: And what we see in Washington, DC, is we've got
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: this statue on top of the Capitol Building, which is
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: highly emblematic of kind of this Diana Artemis character. Right.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: So we've got Diana Artemis right there on top of this,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: you know, Isis's belly right in front of the Washington Monument,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: which is clearly a penis. And then you've got the great,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: big old reflecting pool right there, which is part of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: this Diana Nemorensis ritual with the sacrificed king of the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Grove at the other end of it.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: Mmm.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, I've not heard that. I always heard like it
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: was kind of like an imitation of the Egyptian magic,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like how the pharaohs were the embodiment of the Allagato Cyrus,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: and how they had that ritual where they would bring
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: him into the temple, and then when the shadow of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the obulisk went into the domed temple where the pharaoh was,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: it was a conception, and therefore Osirah was born into
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: his body and kind of possessed him, and he came
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: out the god King and that's while we have that
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: whole presidential thing that you know, he meets in that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: womb and they have their you know, consults, but then
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: he moves from there to the stage in front of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: that phallus and gives his speech and stuff. So it
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, I've always heard that that's a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: like a remake of that. I hadn't heard that that's wild.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: In this book, The Golden ass this is a second
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: century Latin sort of like a pulp book that they
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: had fiction back then, right, so this is really old.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: He goes back to that time period. They still have
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: the cults of Isis and Osiris active in the second century, right,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: so this stuff was not foreign to that time period
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: that they're depicting in Washington, d c. Right, they had
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: all of those cults sort of merge into organizations like
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: the Freemasons, the Knights, Templar, all these other you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: sort of secret society has kept that stuff moving, and
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: those are the people who founded America.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: M Yeah, and then there's all that stuff like do
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: you think like, sorry, do you think like Lincoln actually
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: was assassinated to like just in my opinion, my humble opinion.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: You guys can disagree with me. I think a lot
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: of this stuff, even back then is like fake and staged.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: I mean literally an actor shot him, you know what
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: I mean. It just makes me wonder if he even
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: is dead at all, because there's like this he became
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: like almost like saint like after his death and honest
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: dabe and all this, and he was actually like a
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: pretty unsavory motherfucker, Like he wasn't like this stand up
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: guy that he's made out to be. But in death
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: he's kind of like become this, you know, honest abe,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: and he was so great and all this stuffed You're
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: so great then, you know, right, right.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: That's the point. That's the point of the ritual, right
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: is it makes everybody sad, and it lionizes the victim,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: and it changes the trajectory of history, you know. And
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: if you have you ever heard of King Killed thirty three,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: This is a popular one back at the late seventies,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: but I think it was all about how the Freemasons
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: were the ones who killed Kennedy. Going along with this
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: King Killed thirty three ritual, which comes directly out of
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: the Golden Bough by J. G. Fraser, so they're talking
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: about that back then. And then you look at the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: architecture of Washington, DC and how it matches up with
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: all of these different factors that are going on, like
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: especially the Virginia flag. Right, you've got this woman with
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: their breast exposed. She's standing on top of a guy saying,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: thus always the tyrants, and that was made way way
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: way back in the day. But like that same sort
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: of spirit is carried through through this assassination. There's a
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: definite callback to some of the earliest times in American
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: history going through these different.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Characters, because that's exactly what he's said.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: The uh, the uh, Like look at these two assassinations, right,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Lincoln and JFK. Before JFK, and there's a quote by
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: Lyndon B. Johnson, and he was like, oh, we'll have
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: those inwards voting Democrat from you guys know the quote.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Right before that, it was like everybody kind of held
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: Lincoln up as this like savior of the slaves and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: he free and you know, it was like everybody vote
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: Republican because he's the one who freed us. And then
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: it was like JFK also assassinated, and then Lyndon B.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: Johnson's like, we'll have those inwards voting democrat from here
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: on O or something. It's like some weird cultural shift.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: But both are marked by huge assassinations that changed history forever.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: So are they really dead? I don't know. Is it
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: like an agenda to like push narratives and make people
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: saint like? Because JFK Is also like saint like after
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: he died.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Also, these events are also accompanied by communism. There's a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: lot of Marxism that goes in and around these characters.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Like you know, Lincoln was writing to Karl Marx like
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: this was the start of what Marxism was. Is their
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: whole exchange back and forth. And then what we see
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: in the nineteen sixties going on with all the hippie
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: movement and all the communism and liberalism, that these are
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: revolutions that are taking place. We're just sick from the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: outside instead of looking at the whole picture.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that the Civil War,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: like I said, it wasn't over slavery. It was over
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: a kingly tyrant. It for us, there was one section
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: of the country with a bunch of rich elites that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: was controlling the destiny of America and the Southern state
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: stood up and try to rebel, and they squashed them
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: back into submission. I told her buddy at work, I
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: was talking about this. I said, imagine if you had
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend and you guys were together and happy, and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she comes home and says, you know,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: she's unhappy, she doesn't want to be with you anymore,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: and leaves. That's kind of what happened here. But then
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the boyfriend goes after, smacks her around, blacks both of
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: her eyes, and bloodies her her mouth, knocks her few
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: teeth out, and drags her back home, and now we're
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: going to live all together, peacefully and happily for some
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: How does that work.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Really well? I think what really kicked it off was
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Fort Sumter, because they're saying, look, you can't have this
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: union for it in the South. This has got to go, yeah,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: And they didn't want to go, and they're like, you
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: got to get the fuck out of here. So they
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: attacked Fort Sumter back before Abraham Lincoln. Nothing happened, so
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: they thought they could do it again and nothing would
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: happen again. But that's what kicked off the whole thing.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: And you know, people were out there at bull Run
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: actually picnicking over the battlegrounds because they thought, oh, well,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: this is just gonna be a short thing. We'll go
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: out and see the battle and it'll all be over
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: with soon. But it wasn't, and it just kept escalating
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: and escalating. People didn't want to believe that it was
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: actually starting.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the Civil War, that was the the death
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: of the Republic as we know it.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: So John Wilkes Booth's descendants or whatever, he had some kids, right, like,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: how do you like did they know? And if they knew,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: how do you even tell people that? Like you go
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: to school and you're like, my daddy killed Abraham Lincoln?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Like how do you keep that a secret? I mean
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: that's do you think that they knew?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I think that it was just a I mean that
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: was information didn't travel so far back then, but that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: was you know, big news the president, you know, in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the Civil War. So I don't know if they just
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: went to home school or what, but definitely that the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: descendants were not proud of it, like the great great grandchildren,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: that that was something that was like the family secret
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: and taboo talk about the time.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: They were probably like kind of you know, my dad
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: killed the you know, especially if they were from down south.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: Oh yeably probably revered a little.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Bit, you know, Jesse Jane. He was a hero to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: the you know, the lower class sistance because they made
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: him out to be the Robin Hood. So according to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: where he is at, some people love Jesse James. Maybe
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: some of the kids.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Well, guys, I got something to confess. I'm actually John
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Wilkes Booth.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: So not even guys believe me. Why would why would
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: they believe that? Back then? I mean everybody, Oh.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: I see, I see where you're going with that. That's
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: very true. I mean, you could say anything, right like,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: it's hard to believe that, especially back then. It's not
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: like there was a conspiracy theory podcast you could listen to.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: If somebody said, like, my dad's John Wilkes Booth, they'd
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: be like, okay, what kind.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: Of gratus started screaming about b holes?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: But I see the documentary and somebody threw up the possibility.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: They said, you know, well, what if or how easy
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: would it be? You know, John Wilkes Booth in the
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: South was a hero to a lot of the Southern people,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and he was already a famous actor. He was a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: handsome guy. Uh. They said the ladies just kind of
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: swooned over him, that he had, you know, these dark
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: eyes and could you know, manipulate people and kind of
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: put a spell on people. He was just, you know,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: really charismatic guy. How tempting would it be for a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: young man, uh uh to go down south and tell
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: some girl that's totally out of his league. He may
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: not realize it or not, but I'm kind of a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: big deal.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: You didn't know it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Knock up a bunch of girls and leave town and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, I met John Will's booth, I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: had his baby.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's reading the medical report that says that he
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: broke the wrong leg?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: You know, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Robert May I think was his name.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: So somebody in the comments, some of me a comment
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: about Pascal Beverly Randolph Boom and dude, if you just
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: telling everybody out there, if he has known who that is, Wow,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: that's a freaking rabbit hole the good right there?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: He brought sex magic to America.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, basically, And you're saying Wilkes or Abraham Lincoln was
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: friends with this person.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: Right, Somebody there said that that Lincoln was, but I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: could find them. I couldn't find any links. But you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: know that doesn't mean it. I'm not like some you know,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: wizard or something that can.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Well he went on to make Beverly Hall right, Beverly
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Hall up.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: And yeah, there's definitely some overlap there. But whether or
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: not they actually knew each other, I don't know, but
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: there's definitely some overlap, especially when you get in that
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: they were in the same circles. And I mean both
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: Lincoln and his wife were deeply curious about spiritualism and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: stuff like that because of their the tragedy with their
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: son and other shit.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I remember reading somewhere his wife, well,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I think one of it's kind of alluded to it,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: but I have not looked looked into it, but I've
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: heard more than one place that she was kind of
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a she was kind of witchy. Yeah, contact and all
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: Really, because he was she was trying to contact their son.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: I think was a lot of the driver force. But
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: that's all it takes. Man. But Lincoln was also known
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: to have like prophetic dreams as well. It's another story
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: that I that I see in there. A lot, and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: I think there's a story of him having a dream
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: weeks prior to his assassination that he was going to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: get assassinated and how it was done like he dreamt it.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: He was at his own funeral and he was asking
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: people about who was right.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a Daniel Davy Crockett, you know, the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: famous Tennessee pioneer. Yeah, from my state. I did a
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: show with doctor Judd burt In a while back, and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I did not know this, and I feel ashamed because
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: he was from my state. But when I was writing
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: my book, you know, he was like, hey, did you
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: know that to your pioneer, he rose from Tennessee, had
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: big foot encounters. He said, Davy Crockett and Daniel Ben
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Daniel had one, And I said, no, I didn't. He
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: did a show with me and he was saying that
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Davy Crockett when he went to Texas to fight at
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the Alamo. On the way there, he said that a Harry,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: a humanoid human. That's how he described it in his letter,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: because he wrote a letter back home and described as Harry,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: you know, covered in Harry. Human approached him and spoke
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: with him and said Davy Crockett, go home, go back
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee. You will find nothing but death here. And
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: he actually wrote that in his letter and sent it home.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: He said, maybe I ate some bad meat or something,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: but I saw this, and then he went on to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Texas to die.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: This is what a lot of Native Americans say about
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: the Bigfoot is that they're messengers, right, and whether or
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: not you're scared of them or not determines on whether
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: or not you're going to get the message. So what
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: they'll say is if you if you bring a Bigfoot
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: encounter to a Native American, they'll be like, yeah, what
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: did he tell you? You're like, tell me, no, he
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: was just scary and I ran away. But Daniel Boone's
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: having the experience where he didn't run, he was calm,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: and then he gets this message that was a prophetic vision.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: So like, we probably don't have the Bigfoot thing in
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: perspective at all.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right, shameless product placement. So you know, there's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: tons of stories from UH, I mean dozens of UH
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: native tribes that talk about them trading and communicating and
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: whatnot with you know, nothing, you can't describe it as
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: other than bigfoot. But they were in tribes and they
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: just called them they were different another tribe that lived
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: in the area. So yeah, feral giants like giants, right.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: I think there are probably a lot like how people
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: depict the Mothman being some kind of harbinger of doom
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: and messenger of whatever. I do have to say though,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: and you know, call me an asshole, but I was
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: listening to this like conspiracy radio show the other night
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: and there was this old guy on there and he
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: was like, I've been to a big Foot wedding, and
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: I've seen bigfoots give birth and I've seen and it's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: like I'm sitting here, the host of a conspiracy podcast
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: going this guy's on fucking crack, Like there's no way
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: he's like going to Bigfoot weddings, and like like there's
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: there's too much. There's like a line, you know, because
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: when you tell somebody you have a conspiracy theory podcast,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, yeah, like Bigfoot and like Area fifty
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: one and stuff, and I'm like, actually, that's like the
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: least that I ever talk about ever. I don't. I mean,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: it's you know, I appreciate it when people have cool
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: stories to tell about that stuff, but for me, it's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: like it's hard for me to think, like somebody's out
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: there just barbecuing in their backyard and a book bigfoot
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: walks up and it's like, you want to come to
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: my wedding, and you know, like I don't. It's hard
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: for me to comprehend that. But I do think they
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: could be some kind of spiritual being, like I said,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: a lot like with the moth Man thing. I think
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: that they could be like inter dimensional type beings. I
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: don't know, you know, they're having weddings and just inviting
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: random dudes from their backyard.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you know it's no of this, right.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: Oh right, yeah, exactly.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: Videographer at that wedding.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: It's the worse when it's like I've even had that
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: happen on my own show where the person's like, I
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: can't tell you where it is and we have no
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: video of it, and I'm like.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess he's got pictures of it. It's just
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: he had his thumb over the camera lens the whole time.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, it didn't get backed up onto the cloud.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know what happened, but it's like, I don't know.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: Just some things are hard for me to wrap my
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: brain hole around. But like stuff like what we're talking
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: about right now, that's my favorite kind of stuff, like
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: serial killers. You know what, was Lincoln actually assassinated or not?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: We'll never know.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: Actual vampire hunter?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: Was he an actual vampire hunter. That's just that I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: can get on board with.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: I wanted to. I wanted a selfless plug too. I
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: guess it's really not for a product or an episode
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: on Halloween. I will be dropping. I have a vampire lored,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: but it's a little bit more of a twist on
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: it on where I think some of it may have
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: at least a vampire that I'm describing in that show
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: where I think it may have came from.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: We did want.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right, Ben, And I sent you the
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: script to look at it. Yeah, because I wanted you
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: to know what the fuck I was talking about it.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: I came on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. It's very interesting. Uh,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: definitely check it out when it drops. It's uh, it's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: one of my theories. But all right, sorry, keep keep
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: going us. Was there anything else yet you wanted to add?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Anything dark or pretty much?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: No, that was just kind of like I said, I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: just found this, you know, like two weeks ago, and
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I found those two stories and kind of correlated with
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: the Knights of the Golden Circle. But I am diving deeper.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I met this guy, uh named Dan.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: He has researched nothing but Jesse James and his seventy
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: three aliases and his connections with the Knights of the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Golden Circle. And uh I actually he said he come
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: on the show and talk with me. But I talked
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: to him on the phone just last night. We talked
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: for almost two hours. Man, I love this dude. He's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: right up my alley. We're in the same lane on
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. But he even told me last night,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: you know which I don't know the story behind it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just going off what he said. But he said, yeah,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I looked at your channel because I seen him an
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: email and then he'd give me his number. He said,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I see him on your channel. You recently done show
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: on John Wills Booth And I said, yeah, I did.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: And he said, you know how he really died? Right?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I said, I've heard a few stories. I said, one
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: sounds pretty promising. I said, I wonder if it was
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma arsenic poisoning And he said, that's what I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: believe it to be, he said, But he didn't commit suicide.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: And I said, huh, And he said, Jesse James poisoned
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: his drink, he said, because the Knights of the Golden
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Circle knew that the Union and everybody was close on
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: his tale and he was about to be apprehended and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: they were afraid he was going to squeal, so they
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: sent See James because he was there in the area,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: to go and kill John Wills Booze.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: But our snick and his drink and turn him into
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: a fucking mummified you know, Cheeto.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: Puff, traveling traveling freak show right to Carne who knew
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: well Smooth was a carnie.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: There's a story because I lived in Oklahoma for like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: thirteen years, and there's this story. You can go to
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: the grave site and there is actually a haunted bed
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: and breakfast, but they tell this story of a guy
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: who somehow got mummified and was sold to the circus
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: and they hung him up and nobody knew who he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: was and they kind of buried him as like this nameless,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: faceless guy. And I just find it that it's in Oklahoma.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: You're talking about Wilkes being in Oklahoma, and there's this
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: this urban legend about a guy who got turned into
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: a mummy and sold to a circus. And now I'm
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: thinking it was it fucking John Wilkson.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: That's possible that.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: I'm serious. It's like the realist ship.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Wow, fucking Oklahoma thought from Oklahoma.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: Damn, they're crazy, you know what I mean? Like over
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: half or what is it, like two thirds of Oklahoma's
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: federal land.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: Whoa yo? I was in st prison in Oklahoma. That
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: literally was on the ground under an airport.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 7: Yo.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: You went, Yo, this is great. You went from the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: fucking plane. You're you're shackled with another This is crazy.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: I don't even first you got it. You get stripped
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: before you can get on the fucking plane. So you're naked,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: they check you, You get fucking your ship, you put
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: your clothes on, you get connected to somebody else. Now
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: you're on a plane. I don't know how the fuck
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: you're picking up anything on a plane. Go on a plane,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: you fly to Oklahoma, you get off the thing, and
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: you go straight into the fucking ground. Nothing, You're not
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: touching anything, and you still gotta get fucking stripped again.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: How the fuck did I think from what you just
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: want to stare at bee holes.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, that's part of the original. You gotta gotta.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Spread it, and it is changers the inside job, man,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: because even the conspiracy with Billy the kids, you know,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: supposedly the guy that captured him planted a gun in
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: the outhouse and then left to go gather the gallow wood,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: and then when Billy went to the bathroom, he suddenly
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: had a gun and killed the guy watching him and escape.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: So maybe they don't blade to put up your butt.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, But how do you put an entire
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: gun in your bee hole? Like that has gotta be
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: I think I'd rather shoot myself with it first then
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: put it.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: In my twenty five autos, those little cot twenty five autos,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: they're like that big you know, maybe.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: But do you put it in sideways or do you
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: have to? Like, how do you I'm just saying that sounds.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Like desperate times.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: How do you that's some kind of fresh fucking hell?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Julia, how do you think in spread all the
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: prison they get some of the cell phones in there?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: My god?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Is it like an iPhone fifteen or is it like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: a gall.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: Flip? Yeah?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: But I mean still, I mean, what the fuck?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I mean, that's as crazy.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: How much money that is?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Like a BlackBerry. The BlackBerry slid open and just got wider.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Quick.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: Somebody call me, yeah, right, elaborate.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: What we don't know is right before John Wilkes Booth
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: got Mama fired, he definitely had some stuff shoved into
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: his be hole. But we'll we'll never know about that
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: because he.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, course.
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  Speaker 3: South, yes it did. We're there, Nights of the Golden.
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  Speaker 7: Oh you know what brown circle, the Brown Circle, Knights
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  Speaker 7: of the Golden Balloon.
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  Speaker 6: Nut.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's all, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wrap it up.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I actually had a serious question. I fucked
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  Speaker 4: this all up. Uh, and only because I think we've
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  Speaker 4: had a guess, come on about this before I could
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  Speaker 4: be wrong. Did you ever hear Knights of the Golden Horseshoe.
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  Speaker 1: I have not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually pre that's pre American history because that
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  Speaker 3: was the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe came from the
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  Speaker 3: College of William and Mary, Right, you want to where.
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  Speaker 4: It was, Like, I gotta get him back on it.
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  Speaker 3: They went over the mountains, they got really drunk, and
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  Speaker 3: then they came back with these little pendants and people
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  Speaker 3: have been searching for the pendants over since.
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  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, we had a guest on talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Washington Virginia conspiracies.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. So what popped up was the Knights of the
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  Speaker 6: Golden Horseshoe were a real but largely symbolic group performed
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  Speaker 6: in seventeen sixteen by Governor Alexander Spotswood and Colonial Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: This is the initiation ceremony for all these different dudes.
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  Speaker 3: This is the start of you know, reinvigorating the Knights
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  Speaker 3: Templar in America. I think because again Knights Templar are
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  Speaker 3: the horses Knights of the Golden Horseshoe. These are the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: distributed artifacts from that expedition. Sounds very templar, right.
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  Speaker 4: All right, yeah, but I think we'll wrap it up
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  Speaker 4: there though, if you guys all right with it actually,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: and to plug it real quick too. If anybody's gonna
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: be in Arkansas, Yeah, Saturday and Sunday, there's a paranormal
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: expo there. It's at where it's in Little Rock, Little Rock,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: Oakonsas at some museum, military museum, two floors, two days.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, come check it out. The cult Rejix will
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: have a booth day. I'll be doing interviews and shit,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: I'll probably be recording some of the speakers or whatever.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: We're doing interviews with them. Uh so yeah, come check
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: it out if you're in the area. It's for two
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: days and if you really want, and I know I've
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: said this before, it's it's worth ten thousand itself. Saturday,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: at two o'clock there will be grown ups actually doing
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot coals, So you can come down and check that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: out for a good left and then you can come
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  Speaker 4: and check me out and kick it with me. I'll
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: smoke one with you if you come. So yeah, come
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: on down if you're around. Uh yeah, And uh that's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: enough out of me, and I will let everybody start
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: plugging their show and all that. But Doc, thank you
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: so much man for coming on. Like I said, I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: didn't know anything about this. Julia, I'm pretty sure she
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: was on the troops and she said she didn't know
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: anything about it. Uh so yeah, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 4: this is really interesting and I really liked it. I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: definitely think the viewers did too. Doc. Why don't you
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: let everybody know please where they can find your amazing show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you real. I appreciate the opportunity to come
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: out and talk, and I appreciate the panels and having
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: the back and forth, and even when we derail, I
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: enjoy it thoroughly. I've smiled so much tonight my face hurts.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: You guys, so thank you. I needed that. But Sea,
• 1:37:32
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• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm doing them two or three times a week. Just
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: check me out anywhere you can consume content, YouTube and
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  Speaker 1: once again, the website prometheuslynspodcast dot com. Pick up a
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• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: and hopefully Friday the audiobook will be available on Audible.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: So fingers crossed, but thank.
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  Speaker 4: You awesome, Thank you so much, sir and Bennett. Let
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: everybody know what's on.
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  Speaker 6: Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds podcast. You can find me ever
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: podcasts or listen to YouTube Rumble the Whole Thing or
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: broadcasting Seeds dot com.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks of course, thank you, so I appreciate you coming on.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: Man and the Headless Joant.
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  Speaker 3: You know me, you know where to find me on
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: that list, Giant and it's great to see you get Julia.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: Awesome and last minut least, Julia, please let everybody know
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: what's over you.
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  Speaker 5: If you haven't found me yet, you never will. And
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: I will say this, I'm picky about what podcast I
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: listened to. Obviously I listened to The Occult Rejects, but
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite shows is the Prometheus Lins podcast.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: I really love. Yeah, I really love the topics you
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: choose to cover and you know your perspect on everything.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: I had no idea about this stuff. Tonight I learned
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: a lot. I think the listeners did too, Nick, thanks
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: for having me.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: Of course, of course, yeah, I will sell you.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: Doc.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: I'll have to admit you have one of the few
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: podcasts that will actually be like, oh fuck, that was
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: a good one.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I appreciate it.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh funk, I wish I could make
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: reals like this. Dude. Nice you know, but yeah, definitely
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: check out a show if people have it. Banger of
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: a show. Thank you Wolf for coming on. I really
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: had a great, great time tonight. It's a really good
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: last And again, I mean that was all new to me,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: so I appreciate it.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Doc.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: It was awesome and everybody in the chat that's what's up.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: It seemed like everybody was here comment and was here
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: from the beginning to the end. That is what's up.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: And I really appreciate it. And until the next one,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: everybody be well.
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