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- 0:09Speaker 1: Police across Dallas and Collin Counties are worried they have
- 0:12Speaker 1: a serial killer on their hands.
- 0:14Speaker 2: What's the emergency.
- 0:15Speaker 3: We have a neighbor that we cannot awake.
- 0:18Speaker 4: It was a gated community. I never thought that it would.
- 0:21Speaker 5: Be an unsafe place.
- 0:23Speaker 6: There was women who were found dead.
- 0:25Speaker 1: That your your grandmother, Yeah, it.
- 0:28Speaker 6: Looks like she's deceased, and they were missing jewelry.
- 0:31Speaker 7: I knew instantly. Number one, I should not have opened
- 0:34Speaker 7: the door.
- 0:35Speaker 6: The best evidence that we had came from Mary Bartel,
- 0:38Speaker 6: a victim that survived.
- 0:40Speaker 7: He just smashed a color down hard over my face
- 0:45Speaker 7: and my chest and I just couldn't breathe.
- 0:49Speaker 1: That's what's funded us, the thought that our mom's probably
- 0:52Speaker 1: thought the same thing.
- 0:54Speaker 8: Why did I open.
- 0:54Speaker 6: This door to this man? He absolutely was targeting victims
- 0:59Speaker 6: from that walmart for an hour on end, just watching
- 1:01Speaker 6: the people coming and going at that Walmart, one of
- 1:04Speaker 6: his favorite hunting grounds.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Please say that that is twelve murders.
- 1:07Speaker 9: You died of a murder, in the deaths of eighteen
- 1:09Speaker 9: elderly women.
- 1:10Speaker 10: This group staying behind me represents less than half of
- 1:13Speaker 10: the twenty four plus victims.
- 1:16Speaker 11: You just don't think it's possible.
- 1:19Speaker 12: If he's convicted, he'd be one of the most prolific
- 1:22Speaker 12: serial killers in Texas history.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Technology can record what they do.
- 1:31Speaker 13: These videos are a crucial piece of the puzzle turn around.
- 1:36Speaker 5: You're only care we know the issue that is that evidence.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Hello.
- 2:01Speaker 7: I'm Mary Annas Crawford Bartil.
- 2:05Speaker 5: I lived in.
- 2:06Speaker 7: Northern Illinois almost all of my life, but I'm happy
- 2:12Speaker 7: to be here in Plano, Texas.
- 2:13Speaker 6: Now.
- 2:16Speaker 14: It's an adjustment with Don passing away, sixty seven and
- 2:21Speaker 14: a half years married. But I have good memories. I
- 2:29Speaker 14: have made good friends here. It's a very nice place
- 2:33Speaker 14: to live here at Preston Place.
- 2:38Speaker 15: Life is good.
- 2:40Speaker 4: It was a gated community. She would go to church
- 2:44Speaker 4: every day at six point thirty. She would play bridge,
- 2:47Speaker 4: she would go to exercise class six days a week.
- 2:51Speaker 4: The people that you saw were always friendly, and it
- 2:56Speaker 4: just seemed like a very nice place. I never thought
- 3:00Speaker 4: that it would be an unsafe place.
- 3:03Speaker 16: Plane on nine one one.
- 3:04Speaker 17: What's the emergency.
- 3:05Speaker 3: We have a neighbor that we cannot awake.
- 3:12Speaker 5: This Martell was unconscious and they couldn't get her to
- 3:14Speaker 5: wake up.
- 3:14Speaker 13: The paramedics are starting to pull into the parking lot.
- 3:17Speaker 13: You'll see them before too long.
- 3:19Speaker 10: Okay, okay.
- 3:21Speaker 18: When the police called, uh, they indicated that she said
- 3:24Speaker 18: she was attacked, but they thought she probably had fallen
- 3:26Speaker 18: and gotten a little adult, gotten a little mixed up,
- 3:30Speaker 18: and that didn't really sound right to us. She wasn't
- 3:33Speaker 18: somebody who just got rattled.
- 3:35Speaker 3: We're addled.
- 3:38Speaker 6: The Plano Police department knew that there was something going
- 3:41Speaker 6: on on the days leading up to Mary Bartel's attack.
- 3:44Speaker 6: They had been working that retirement community.
- 3:47Speaker 5: What callers did we have?
- 3:48Speaker 6: The alarm company called because she pushed her pendent. There
- 3:51Speaker 6: was women who were found dead and they were missing jewelry.
- 3:56Speaker 19: I was aware that there was other cases in that
- 3:59Speaker 19: same complex, and we quickly learned that this is going
- 4:02Speaker 19: to be related. No obvious foul play, but there was
- 4:06Speaker 19: reports from the family of missing jewelry.
- 4:09Speaker 6: I'm going to talk to you now about the date
- 4:12Speaker 6: of March.
- 4:12Speaker 15: Nineteenth, all right.
- 4:14Speaker 6: The best evidence that we had came from Mary Bartel,
- 4:17Speaker 6: a victim that survived.
- 4:19Speaker 15: I was at the computer.
- 4:20Speaker 7: It was about eight thirty on this Monday, March nineteenth,
- 4:26Speaker 7: and I heard this very insistent rapping at the door.
- 4:33Speaker 6: She went to open the door and there is an
- 4:36Speaker 6: individual standing there.
- 4:37Speaker 20: The door.
- 4:40Speaker 7: Was opening inward.
- 4:41Speaker 17: And when I.
- 4:43Speaker 7: My eyes were just fixated on these green rubber gloves.
- 4:48Speaker 16: That I saw.
- 4:50Speaker 7: I knew instantly when I saw those gloves. Number one,
- 4:54Speaker 7: I should not have opened the door. Number two, my
- 4:59Speaker 7: life was in grave danger.
- 5:03Speaker 19: Ms Martel's I believe like five to three, and she
- 5:06Speaker 19: described this mail to be like five seven, you know,
- 5:08Speaker 19: several inches taller than her.
- 5:10Speaker 7: I didn't have any success in pushing the door shut.
- 5:15Speaker 11: Okay, So.
- 5:19Speaker 7: He was inside and he said, don't fight me. Lie
- 5:24Speaker 7: on the bed. He just smashed a toler down hard
- 5:32Speaker 7: over my face and my chest, and I just couldn't breathe.
- 5:40Speaker 7: After I don't know three minutes or however long seemed
- 5:45Speaker 7: longer than that, of course, that he was just using
- 5:49Speaker 7: all his weight to keep me from from breathing at all.
- 5:59Speaker 7: I passed stocked.
- 6:02Speaker 6: I believe he thought she was dead, but she had
- 6:06Speaker 6: a pacemaker that helped her survive. When you came to
- 6:11Speaker 6: what were you missing on your hands?
- 6:14Speaker 7: I was missing my engagement ring and my wedding.
- 6:20Speaker 6: Ring at the wedding ring. Later that day they find
- 6:23Speaker 6: out that there was another woman, an Conklin, who was
- 6:26Speaker 6: attacked in the apartment right across the hall from Mary Bartel's.
- 6:29Speaker 19: Detective and said, hey, we got another death there across
- 6:33Speaker 19: the hall and Conkland was found on the floor of
- 6:35Speaker 19: her living room. This may be related.
- 6:40Speaker 18: My mom was attacked Monday. Their mom across the hall
- 6:43Speaker 18: died on Sunday, and Conklin Starter shared that her mom
- 6:48Speaker 18: had a ring that she would never take off and
- 6:50Speaker 18: it was gone, and there was some other jewelry that
- 6:53Speaker 18: was missing, and they're going, you know, could this be
- 6:57Speaker 18: the same the same thing that happened to her mom.
- 7:02Speaker 6: They have suspected homicide in Anne Conklin. They have two
- 7:06Speaker 6: or three other cases where they think could be not.
- 7:09Speaker 15: Much as as underlying conditions.
- 7:12Speaker 4: Women had been dying way beyond what you would expect.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Typically what would happen is they would just say, well,
- 7:18Speaker 4: they died in their sleep.
- 7:22Speaker 6: Mary Brooks was out of Richardson. The officers arrived thinking
- 7:26Speaker 6: that they were just there to assist a family who
- 7:30Speaker 6: had found a loved one who had passed away.
- 7:33Speaker 19: Your grandmother, Okay, yeah, it looks like she's deceased.
- 7:36Speaker 6: Okay, A right, hank Ty, just sit down for a minute.
- 7:40Speaker 6: Let's let's see what fire department does.
- 7:45Speaker 5: I do know she had gotten the flu about last week.
- 7:48Speaker 5: She toughed it out, she got better over the weekend.
- 7:50Speaker 6: But okay, hey, when you got here, was the door locked?
- 7:55Speaker 3: Did you just it was unlocked?
- 7:57Speaker 5: Okay?
- 8:00Speaker 6: One of the officers who had been a detective realized
- 8:04Speaker 6: that even though they felt like this was a natural,
- 8:07Speaker 6: they wanted to document the scene as well as possible.
- 8:10Speaker 3: It looks like she came home from Walmart and she had.
- 8:13Speaker 19: Had a chance to put the groceries away yet, and
- 8:16Speaker 19: then I guess maybe she started feeling bad.
- 8:21Speaker 21: Do we know what becaused her?
- 8:25Speaker 22: Yeah?
- 8:26Speaker 1: Going okay, and un lets you request an autopsy, which
- 8:31Speaker 1: you're not.
- 8:31Speaker 7: Going to know.
- 8:34Speaker 6: The next day, when the family are preparing for a funeral,
- 8:39Speaker 6: they're looking for her will and they can't find a
- 8:41Speaker 6: safe that should be in the house.
- 8:43Speaker 7: So just a few things that are missing, the sake
- 8:46Speaker 7: that's like, who in the heck outside of our family
- 8:48Speaker 7: wouldn't even know it was there.
- 8:50Speaker 6: They also can't find jewelry that she never went anywhere
- 8:53Speaker 6: without a.
- 8:54Speaker 23: Single solitaire and then three marquee cut diamonds. Kind of
- 9:00Speaker 23: what it is, okay, and she wasn't wearing it and
- 9:03Speaker 23: she was not saying it okay, and so it would
- 9:05Speaker 23: be in the safe that you're no, it wouldn't.
- 9:09Speaker 15: It wouldn't. It would have.
- 9:10Speaker 23: It might have been on her finger. If not, it
- 9:12Speaker 23: would have been in I think in her bedroom. But
- 9:14Speaker 23: we can't find it anywhere.
- 9:25Speaker 19: The next step in this investigation was to do a canvas.
- 9:29Speaker 7: Sure, we had an incident that happened next door. We're
- 9:31Speaker 7: trying to see if anybody saw or heard anything.
- 9:35Speaker 19: Not only the building where Bartel was at and Conklin
- 9:38Speaker 19: was at, but the surrounding buildings.
- 9:40Speaker 18: Did you see anything anything suspicious, any people that weren't
- 9:43Speaker 18: supposed to be here.
- 9:44Speaker 19: It was that canvas that really helped us with our investigations.
- 9:50Speaker 6: A couple of days before, an individual had called in
- 9:53Speaker 6: a suspicious person. He wrote down a license plate, gave
- 9:57Speaker 6: a description. A license plate came back to a Billy Chremiermer.
- 10:02Speaker 2: We had learned that he was from Kenya, he was married,
- 10:05Speaker 2: had a young kid. He was working as a healthcare provider.
- 10:10Speaker 5: It was a great lead for us.
- 10:12Speaker 19: Now we had a black mail that we're looking for
- 10:14Speaker 19: roxby five seven, well dressed. He quickly became a person
- 10:19Speaker 19: of interest that we needed to talk to.
- 10:22Speaker 6: So they are on all alerts at the Planet Police
- 10:24Speaker 6: Department to try to track this individual down. They figure
- 10:31Speaker 6: out his apartment location. They sit up on his apartment.
- 10:35Speaker 17: He is identified very quickly, and he ended up stopping
- 10:38Speaker 17: at the dumpster in the northeast corner of the apartment complex.
- 10:42Speaker 17: He was pulled out of the vehicle and placed on
- 10:43Speaker 17: the ground and in handcuffs.
- 10:45Speaker 6: In his hands he had jewelry and items and money.
- 10:49Speaker 6: They went back to the dumpster looking inside there there's
- 10:51Speaker 6: a jewelry box inside that dumpster, and inside there they
- 10:56Speaker 6: find personal information of an individual with the name Blue Tea.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Here they contacted Dallas p D and said, hey, can
- 11:06Speaker 2: y'all go to this address and make sure she's okay.
- 11:10Speaker 6: They knocking the door, there's no answer. They wind up
- 11:13Speaker 6: having to make a dynamic entry in there, kicking the door,
- 11:17Speaker 6: and inside there they find the body of lou T Harris.
- 11:23Speaker 11: Nothing looked out of the place. She lived alone.
- 11:26Speaker 2: You know, if we hadn't got a call from plaan
- 11:28Speaker 2: OPD and she had n't been found, we would have
- 11:31Speaker 2: probably thought it was a natural best.
- 11:34Speaker 6: Some of the jewelry that was in Billy Chimiermer's hands
- 11:38Speaker 6: belonged to Lou Harris. They noticed that there was a
- 11:42Speaker 6: Walmart bag. She had just purchased some items at Walmart.
- 11:46Speaker 6: They go back to Walmart and look to the surveillance
- 11:49Speaker 6: cameras and when they look at the checkout times that
- 11:53Speaker 6: Lou Harris was checking out just an aisle over, Billy
- 11:57Speaker 6: Chimiermer was also checking out at that saying in Walmart.
- 12:01Speaker 6: He absolutely was targeting victims from that Walmart. I have
- 12:06Speaker 6: video of him at that Walmart sitting in the parking
- 12:09Speaker 6: lot just looking at the handicapped spots for an hour
- 12:13Speaker 6: on end, just watching the people coming and going. I
- 12:17Speaker 6: believe that this was one of his favorite hunting grounds.
- 12:24Speaker 6: Mister Tremamer is brought to the Dallas Police Department. He's
- 12:27Speaker 6: put into an interview room.
- 12:28Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're doing. What's your name, Billy?
- 12:33Speaker 11: What's okay?
- 12:35Speaker 15: Hey, I'm Brian.
- 12:36Speaker 5: Nice to meet you.
- 12:37Speaker 15: Text them period.
- 12:38Speaker 2: I went in there first to talk to him, you know,
- 12:40Speaker 2: trying to get him relaxed enough to talk to me.
- 12:42Speaker 5: I used to be a can't keep up, okay, I'm
- 12:45Speaker 5: kind of caregiver.
- 12:47Speaker 24: I was, uh like, can't getting taken care of older
- 12:50Speaker 24: people and in a nursing home.
- 12:54Speaker 6: Billy Tremember's prior offenses were d w i's. He had
- 12:57Speaker 6: a family violence assault taste. He did have a criminal
- 13:00Speaker 6: trespass from another retirement community down in Dallas. There is
- 13:06Speaker 6: video of him walking the hallways there. He was very smooth.
- 13:12Speaker 6: He was very accomplished in blending in with the other
- 13:17Speaker 6: individuals that were around there. It turns out in that
- 13:20Speaker 6: retirement community there were some victims at that location as well.
- 13:23Speaker 24: You working anywhere, No, I'm not working because my lessons
- 13:28Speaker 24: was suspended for two years, so not been just nextcept
- 13:31Speaker 24: And so I guess by things great offer app, offer app.
- 13:37Speaker 11: And that's all you do for a living, Just buy
- 13:38Speaker 11: and sell stuff? Yeah, what kind of stuff you buy
- 13:42Speaker 11: and selling?
- 13:43Speaker 24: Most of the things that buy is uh that jewelry.
- 13:48Speaker 2: He appeared to be really calm. He never really got
- 13:52Speaker 2: rattled during the interview. I think he thought he was
- 13:55Speaker 2: gonna get away with everything. The reason I want to
- 13:57Speaker 2: talk to you is, I guess when they arrested us
- 14:00Speaker 2: some jewelry or something like that. I wanted to see
- 14:02Speaker 2: what he would tell us, what he knew about the
- 14:03Speaker 2: property that he was caught with.
- 14:05Speaker 11: But he had it in his hand.
- 14:06Speaker 2: So what you had on you tonight. Where did you
- 14:08Speaker 2: get that? Or I guess, oh the one to yeah,
- 14:13Speaker 2: when you get arrested.
- 14:14Speaker 25: For good war when I was I guess both those
- 14:16Speaker 25: are like twenty minutes ago.
- 14:18Speaker 22: Uh.
- 14:18Speaker 25: There was this guy usually gets me jewelry, and so
- 14:23Speaker 25: I got this box, I looked what I wanted through,
- 14:25Speaker 25: I paid his money, and I got the other box,
- 14:28Speaker 25: which I didn't want, and then.
- 14:29Speaker 5: Threw it in the truck.
- 14:30Speaker 11: Okay, do you know the guy's name?
- 14:33Speaker 5: No, he doesn't tell you his name of the Mexican guy.
- 14:36Speaker 11: He was just coming up with stories.
- 14:37Speaker 2: He made up a guy that he met on an
- 14:40Speaker 2: app to buy property and to buy jewelry. None of
- 14:43Speaker 2: it even made sense. Let's forget about this Hispanic guy
- 14:47Speaker 2: you met, so we know that didn't happen. Okay, they
- 14:51Speaker 2: had you on surveillance. No guy ever came to your apartment. Okay, honest,
- 14:58Speaker 2: prow these Nope, I know what's hard of talking about. Okay, Yeah,
- 15:02Speaker 2: sometimes people do.
- 15:03Speaker 17: Are you.
- 15:04Speaker 2: You think you're a bad guy, you think you're a
- 15:07Speaker 2: good guy. Right, As a good guy, you have to
- 15:11Speaker 2: admit that even good.
- 15:12Speaker 5: People make mistakes, right, I know, but I'm telling you me.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Everybody he knew exactly what he had just done. He
- 15:19Speaker 6: just wanted to try to play the little cat and
- 15:21Speaker 6: mouse game of no, I'm totally innocent. Show me the.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Proof, the big jewelry box that you told me about
- 15:28Speaker 2: that you threw in the trash.
- 15:29Speaker 26: Can we know where that came from?
- 15:33Speaker 2: Okay? You can, you can.
- 15:37Speaker 11: You can but me all day, Billy.
- 15:39Speaker 25: I'm look, I'm not.
- 15:40Speaker 11: I'm not trying to trick you.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I'm not.
- 15:42Speaker 15: I'm just coming at you honestly, right.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I think that in his mind he has done a
- 15:46Speaker 2: good enough job not to be caught.
- 15:48Speaker 11: He had been getting away with it for for quite
- 15:50Speaker 11: a while.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna go to jail for murder?
- 15:53Speaker 15: Okay?
- 15:54Speaker 5: What You're going to jail for murder?
- 15:58Speaker 11: Yeah, for murder.
- 16:00Speaker 2: You have a million dollar bond going down jail.
- 16:04Speaker 11: Here in Dallas.
- 16:05Speaker 2: Okay he did for mar Yes in jail for murder.
- 16:10Speaker 5: I didn't know the matter anybody. And I was in
- 16:12Speaker 5: Lord in death house.
- 16:13Speaker 24: I didn't know.
- 16:14Speaker 11: You know, I disagree with you. I think you've probably
- 16:16Speaker 11: done this before.
- 16:17Speaker 5: Is that what?
- 16:18Speaker 11: I think he'd probably done this before?
- 16:20Speaker 15: Done what what happened tonight?
- 16:24Speaker 2: What I already told you, Why you're going to jail
- 16:27Speaker 2: right for murder?
- 16:31Speaker 5: Yeah, but we say I haven't done this before.
- 16:33Speaker 26: Well, people don't just go do that kind of shoes
- 16:35Speaker 26: for the first time. Let me step out of the room,
- 16:48Speaker 26: put this on, and just.
- 16:49Speaker 15: Uh when you're done changing.
- 16:51Speaker 5: Okay, there any warmer?
- 16:59Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 17:00Speaker 15: Did water food?
- 17:02Speaker 5: What time is it? Eight forty eight in the morning?
- 17:05Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 17:06Speaker 5: Okay.
- 17:07Speaker 19: You're used to seeing somebody who's being charged with murder,
- 17:10Speaker 19: and he didn't appear to be upset that he was
- 17:13Speaker 19: being charged.
- 17:14Speaker 5: Do you know why you're in jail right now now
- 17:17Speaker 5: that you told me last night? What did he tell you?
- 17:20Speaker 27: Buck? Murder?
- 17:21Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, what do you think about that? That's shocking me.
- 17:25Speaker 19: Well, we're here and have been here trying to talk
- 17:28Speaker 19: with you to better understand.
- 17:30Speaker 5: Okay, and if you're not going to be truthful with us,
- 17:33Speaker 5: I'm didn't let him finish.
- 17:35Speaker 19: Please, you're not going to be truthful with us because
- 17:37Speaker 19: we're really trying to get a true understanding.
- 17:39Speaker 5: Yeah okay, And you're not being totally truthful with us,
- 17:43Speaker 5: so then you're going to have more charges coming against you.
- 17:46Speaker 5: I haven't I have a foutful Okay, I have a
- 17:48Speaker 5: proof fun I'm calling you a liar saying that's not true.
- 17:56Speaker 6: On Mary Bartel, he had stolen a ring from her hand,
- 17:59Speaker 6: which we learned that he sold later that day. He
- 18:03Speaker 6: posted it about an hour after she was attacked on
- 18:06Speaker 6: a website took a picture of it with his phone
- 18:09Speaker 6: at some point in time where you shown a picture
- 18:11Speaker 6: of some of the state's exhibit a number forty six.
- 18:14Speaker 7: And I said, that is my ring, my diamond ring
- 18:18Speaker 7: that my husband gave me fifty years ago.
- 18:20Speaker 6: That is not your finger though, that that ring is on.
- 18:23Speaker 28: Oh, probably a big mistaken. He was posting these items
- 18:27Speaker 28: quickly after he had killed these people.
- 18:30Speaker 19: At that point, it prompted me to pull up a
- 18:32Speaker 19: picture that I've gotten from the Bartel family.
- 18:34Speaker 5: One of the rings that was missing is just the
- 18:37Speaker 5: one that you sold and posted. Yes, kind of like that.
- 18:43Speaker 5: It looks like that one. Yeah, that ring was hers.
- 18:47Speaker 5: We know you were there, but it looks almost like that.
- 18:50Speaker 5: But I don't know if it's that one. You're not
- 18:51Speaker 5: being truthful I am or not.
- 18:54Speaker 19: He was going to local pod shop types of places
- 18:57Speaker 19: where they sell diamond and gold jewelry.
- 19:00Speaker 28: A place where he sold a lot. They actually had
- 19:02Speaker 28: security video and some of this footage was within a
- 19:06Speaker 28: few hours of the time that he had just killed
- 19:10Speaker 28: an elderly female. He would come in well dressed, smiling.
- 19:15Speaker 28: They described him as jovial. It was very heartbreaking to
- 19:18Speaker 28: see how he could come in with this jewelry that
- 19:20Speaker 28: he took from someone he just killed, and just pleasantly,
- 19:24Speaker 28: without being nervous or anything, was able to sell these
- 19:27Speaker 28: products as property.
- 19:30Speaker 29: I have unattended deaths, I have suspicious deaths of women.
- 19:35Speaker 29: Every time these unattended deaths happen, rings are missing. This
- 19:40Speaker 29: is the first time you've ever heard of anything like that.
- 19:42Speaker 30: Yeah, And do you think it's a coincidence that we
- 19:48Speaker 30: have on records putting you in our complex on dates
- 19:52Speaker 30: that we find our people deceased with missing jewelry and
- 19:57Speaker 30: you sell jewelry.
- 19:58Speaker 5: Yeah, but what are saying? It is that odd? Is
- 20:02Speaker 5: that is that sounds weird? That's that's hard.
- 20:05Speaker 25: That's a question of the day, That's what That's what
- 20:08Speaker 25: I was saying, that's the question of the question of
- 20:10Speaker 25: the day.
- 20:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:12Speaker 3: Yeah, you never asked for a lawyer.
- 20:14Speaker 19: He said that the truth was set him free.
- 20:17Speaker 15: You know, you seem pretty happy.
- 20:18Speaker 5: I mean, you don't seem very upset that you just
- 20:20Speaker 5: got told that. Yeah though, no case, No, I don't
- 20:25Speaker 5: like that. I don't need that or nothing. I bet
- 20:27Speaker 5: I go ahe and die because of the truth. I'm saying,
- 20:30Speaker 5: you go ahead one. I better die for the truth.
- 20:32Speaker 27: I know.
- 20:33Speaker 19: I can call him a liar all day long, it's
- 20:35Speaker 19: still not going to change the fact that he's sticking
- 20:37Speaker 19: to that story.
- 20:38Speaker 15: It's wolf. First.
- 20:41Speaker 11: I'm waiting to see if there are any.
- 20:43Speaker 2: What we'd call maybe defensive wounds on his hands where
- 20:45Speaker 2: somebody's trying to defend themselves and scratching him, maybe bite marks.
- 20:49Speaker 7: Sticking of cotton, swaves in your mouth of.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Coda, anything that would maybe give us physical evidence on
- 20:55Speaker 2: his body from the victim.
- 20:57Speaker 5: Do you know anything about our suspicious deaths?
- 21:00Speaker 6: Nope?
- 21:01Speaker 5: Are you willing to tell us anything about it?
- 21:03Speaker 26: Nope?
- 21:03Speaker 20: I don't know nothing.
- 21:04Speaker 5: You don't know nothing. I don't know. You're not involved
- 21:06Speaker 5: in He.
- 21:07Speaker 19: Was like, everybody will see that he was right and
- 21:10Speaker 19: we're all wrong, and he's going to walk away from
- 21:12Speaker 19: all this.
- 21:14Speaker 15: Here's what's going to happen.
- 21:14Speaker 2: They're going to take you to loustair a Jill okay, okay,
- 21:18Speaker 2: and they're going to book you in for capital murder.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Police across Dallas and Colin Counties are worried they have
- 21:24Speaker 1: a serial killer on their hands.
- 21:26Speaker 31: If you think that one of your loved ones could
- 21:28Speaker 31: be a victim, or you have any helpful information, police
- 21:31Speaker 31: want to hear from you.
- 21:32Speaker 13: In Dallas alone, our initial estimates is over seven hundred
- 21:36Speaker 13: and fifty elderly females that we're going to go back
- 21:39Speaker 13: and review.
- 21:39Speaker 32: We're going to make every attempt to identify all the
- 21:42Speaker 32: victims and the communities across the metroplex that fully investigate
- 21:45Speaker 32: this case and provide justice for the victims and for
- 21:48Speaker 32: their family.
- 22:01Speaker 9: Billy Shamiermir, forty five, is accused of capital murder and
- 22:04Speaker 9: attempted murder. He's a suspected serial killer, already accused of
- 22:07Speaker 9: suffocating a dozen elderly women, and one of those women
- 22:11Speaker 9: was Cliff Harris's mother in law. Harris is the Cowboys
- 22:14Speaker 9: legend and a new member of the Pro Football Hall
- 22:16Speaker 9: of Fame.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Harris's two days prior to his mother in law's death,
- 22:20Speaker 1: she was concerned that Shamiermir had been in her home
- 22:23Speaker 1: and complained to management.
- 22:26Speaker 20: We're very angry about that, very upset about that, particularly
- 22:30Speaker 20: because he could get on that premises so easily an access.
- 22:36Speaker 20: All these elderly women that were up there, they were
- 22:40Speaker 20: just pray for him. They were just victims, innocent victims
- 22:44Speaker 20: that are like children, you know, that needed to be protected.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Shamiermir is already charged with twelve murders in Dallas and
- 22:51Speaker 1: Collin Counties.
- 22:52Speaker 6: Hey Dallas County grand jury indicted him for two more murders,
- 22:55Speaker 6: bringing the total against him to fourteen.
- 22:58Speaker 9: Billy Shamermir has been different murder in the deaths of
- 23:01Speaker 9: eighteen elderly women.
- 23:03Speaker 12: He's accused of killing twenty two elderly women in the
- 23:07Speaker 12: Dallas area and stealing their belongings.
- 23:09Speaker 10: This group staying behind me represents less than half of
- 23:13Speaker 10: the twenty four plus victims of serial killer Billy Shmiermer.
- 23:17Speaker 2: I've been an homicide of the time for ten years.
- 23:19Speaker 2: I've never heard of anything like this, This many murders
- 23:23Speaker 2: by one person and targeting this vulnerable.
- 23:26Speaker 11: Group of our society. It's just you just don't think
- 23:28Speaker 11: it's possible.
- 23:29Speaker 12: If he's convicted, he'd be one of the most prolific
- 23:32Speaker 12: serial killers in Texas history.
- 23:40Speaker 8: They had offered life without parole and he declined it.
- 23:42Speaker 8: They said he was not guilty, so he's not accepting anything.
- 23:46Speaker 6: Lou Harris was always going to be my first case
- 23:49Speaker 6: because we had the defendant with her property in his
- 23:53Speaker 6: hands hours after he's on video walking out of Walmart
- 23:57Speaker 6: with her. I mean every piece of evidence was so
- 24:00Speaker 6: he in telling this enormous story.
- 24:03Speaker 12: Stalking, smothering, and stealing. Three words prosecutors say sum up
- 24:08Speaker 12: the trial of accused serial killer Billy Shamermir.
- 24:14Speaker 6: I think the weakness that I had in this trial
- 24:17Speaker 6: was just the fact that there was no direct link
- 24:20Speaker 6: to him that juries are accustomed to seeing as far
- 24:24Speaker 6: as fingerprints, DNA or video.
- 24:28Speaker 1: After the prosecution residents case, the defense attorneys had Shamermir
- 24:32Speaker 1: stand up and then advised him that he had the
- 24:35Speaker 1: right to testify, but he declined.
- 24:37Speaker 8: We never felt that the state had enough evidence to
- 24:40Speaker 8: prove beyond all reason doubts.
- 24:41Speaker 12: Well, the fate of alleged serial killer Billy Shamir Meir
- 24:45Speaker 12: is in the hands of the jury.
- 24:47Speaker 9: The jury deliberated for four hours, twelve jurors wrestling with
- 24:52Speaker 9: the fate of one man.
- 24:55Speaker 16: This note sates we are hopelessly eleven jun We remained
- 25:01Speaker 16: at an impassed with no hope of resolving to this
- 25:05Speaker 16: verdict and is signed by the fourth person of the jury.
- 25:10Speaker 16: Stay if you have a response, unportionship, thank you.
- 25:15Speaker 8: Was you warned respectfully once again on the happens snary,
- 25:19Speaker 8: we would move this courtporardt to the point.
- 25:21Speaker 3: This is the fourth I believe total note in the.
- 25:23Speaker 8: Third consistive note of duris stating that they're eleven to
- 25:28Speaker 8: one deadlock and had an impass.
- 25:29Speaker 15: And unable to reach a vertnance. So move this point.
- 25:33Speaker 8: In his own fair suggests it stays better miss Straw
- 25:37Speaker 8: for one hundred.
- 25:38Speaker 6: Than you are.
- 25:40Speaker 31: You never know how trial is going to end up.
- 25:42Speaker 31: I never try to guess what a jury is going
- 25:45Speaker 31: to do. And there was one person who, for whatever
- 25:49Speaker 31: reason I don't know, did not find that the evidence
- 25:53Speaker 31: was sufficient beyond a reason no doubt.
- 25:54Speaker 2: I think we had a juror that was rogue, that
- 25:58Speaker 2: intentionally got on the jury to make a point based on.
- 26:01Speaker 16: All notes of our regulation, see the court will find
- 26:06Speaker 16: a mistrial has a kurd or a soldiery has occurred
- 26:10Speaker 16: with a dead life.
- 26:13Speaker 27: The judge has declared a mistrial, the jury has been
- 26:17Speaker 27: released from their service, and I'm speechless. I mean, I
- 26:20Speaker 27: really thought that it was going to be a quick
- 26:22Speaker 27: guilty verdict.
- 26:23Speaker 10: Obviously, we're shocked, we're saddened, we're sick. We extend our
- 26:27Speaker 10: sympathies to Luthy Harris's family that they didn't get the
- 26:30Speaker 10: justice that they deserved for the murder of their mom.
- 26:34Speaker 20: I'm probably more emotional I should be about this, but
- 26:39Speaker 20: it was a terrible strategy for all these people up
- 26:41Speaker 20: here that have their mother's slag.
- 26:45Speaker 9: The Dallas County DA says they will immediately retry the case.
- 26:48Speaker 3: When they decide what they're going to try next, we'll
- 26:50Speaker 3: be ready.
- 26:57Speaker 33: Today the first step in the retrial of accused serial
- 27:01Speaker 33: killer Billy Shamier Mirr.
- 27:02Speaker 2: You may remember it was just months ago that a
- 27:04Speaker 2: judge declared a mistrial.
- 27:06Speaker 3: When there's a mistrial and the state decides to retry case.
- 27:08Speaker 8: It normally does not benefit the defense because now they
- 27:11Speaker 8: see weaknesses, they see issues as they have, and they
- 27:14Speaker 8: try to shore those things up.
- 27:15Speaker 5: So this time say a grade to be hand for
- 27:19Speaker 5: your os chest.
- 27:20Speaker 6: Please the court the council plays, gentlemen, get out there,
- 27:24Speaker 6: I crowd to stand up here in the present, the
- 27:26Speaker 6: State of Texas versus Billy Chamira what you're gonna hear
- 27:30Speaker 6: about in the next couple of days. It's about some
- 27:34Speaker 6: incidents that happened back in twenty eighteen here in your
- 27:37Speaker 6: county of Dallas. You're gonna hear about how this individual
- 27:41Speaker 6: right here, Billy Chamier, heor how he attacks not just one,
- 27:46Speaker 6: not just two, but the three different individuals in our county,
- 27:52Speaker 6: leaving them for dead. These are some of the most
- 27:55Speaker 6: vulnerable people that we have in our community, three elderly weamen.
- 28:00Speaker 6: Typically you're not allowed to bring in other bad acts
- 28:04Speaker 6: in a criminal case. In my case, I needed to
- 28:06Speaker 6: prove his plan or his scheme. I'm not trying to
- 28:09Speaker 6: bring in twenty attacks. I'm just really trying to bring
- 28:12Speaker 6: in two or three other women to limit it in
- 28:16Speaker 6: scope so that it's not overly prejudicial. You are the
- 28:20Speaker 6: jury that will decide the fate of Billy Chamiera, and
- 28:24Speaker 6: once you hear all the evidence that we have, there's
- 28:27Speaker 6: going to be only one verdict that you will be
- 28:29Speaker 6: able to come up with. I'm not going to be
- 28:30Speaker 6: a verdict of guiltis.
- 28:34Speaker 15: You're a Russie.
- 28:36Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 28:40Speaker 6: Then at this time Judge will call Mary Bartel Yes
- 28:42Speaker 6: deposition case.
- 28:46Speaker 15: This deposition is taking place in the days. Let's each
- 28:49Speaker 15: particular you.
- 28:51Speaker 20: So sweam.
- 28:53Speaker 6: I felt like the deposition of Mary Bartel was one
- 28:56Speaker 6: of my strongest witnesses. The law allows you to take
- 28:59Speaker 6: deposits where victims are elderly to preserve their testimony. I
- 29:03Speaker 6: do thank and she had passed away before trial happened.
- 29:07Speaker 6: So I'm going to talk to you about the date
- 29:10Speaker 6: of March nineteenth. All right.
- 29:13Speaker 7: He was inside in my apartment and he said, don't
- 29:20Speaker 7: fight me, lie on the bed. So I did as
- 29:24Speaker 7: he said because I knew I could not overpower him physically.
- 29:30Speaker 6: Her mind was sharp as attack.
- 29:32Speaker 7: Anyway, he just smashed a pillow down hard over my
- 29:41Speaker 7: face and my chest, and I just couldn't breathe. After
- 29:48Speaker 7: I don't know three minutes or however long seemed longer
- 29:52Speaker 7: than that, of course, that he was just using all
- 29:56Speaker 7: his weight to keep me from from breathing at all.
- 30:05Speaker 7: I passed out.
- 30:09Speaker 6: I'll pass the witness this side.
- 30:10Speaker 8: How are you doing this, my co counsul, he was
- 30:12Speaker 8: actually there during the deposition. He had opportunity to ask
- 30:15Speaker 8: her questions at the same time.
- 30:18Speaker 33: The fella who did this to you on that day,
- 30:20Speaker 33: you'd never seen him there before that you know of,
- 30:22Speaker 33: Is that right?
- 30:24Speaker 15: That's correct?
- 30:25Speaker 33: Okay, And quite honestly, you wouldn't know if you had
- 30:29Speaker 33: or not because you you didn't identify You couldn't identify
- 30:32Speaker 33: him because you didn't really look at his face that day.
- 30:36Speaker 33: That's correct, I think, mister fitz Martinez says. But you
- 30:39Speaker 33: didn't notice any kind of accent or anything about his
- 30:41Speaker 33: voice that stood out to you.
- 30:43Speaker 7: No, I was just mainly concerned about whether I could
- 30:49Speaker 7: get some help before I died.
- 30:51Speaker 8: Didn't hear an accent? And anyone that ever heard in
- 30:54Speaker 8: the Shmimer speak, he has a very thick and distinct
- 30:57Speaker 8: African accent.
- 30:58Speaker 33: Did you say anything to him that you can remember?
- 31:01Speaker 7: It's very hard to speak when I agree, but.
- 31:05Speaker 3: I mean I would think it.
- 31:06Speaker 32: No, I said nothing.
- 31:08Speaker 7: It was impossible to say anything like if.
- 31:11Speaker 33: Someone was hurting me, I'd say like just to please stop,
- 31:14Speaker 33: something like that. But there was just no conversation that
- 31:18Speaker 33: entire time between either one of you.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Not when your.
- 31:22Speaker 7: Faces, mouth, chest, everything's just smashed with a pillow to
- 31:30Speaker 7: suffocate you.
- 31:31Speaker 6: No, yes, ma'am.
- 31:32Speaker 7: And while that I'm not recommending you try it, but
- 31:34Speaker 7: you'll find out it doesn't work.
- 31:37Speaker 6: Her deposition really gave a voice to all of these women.
- 31:40Speaker 6: She was able to tell all of us what it
- 31:42Speaker 6: was like in the last moments of their life with
- 31:45Speaker 6: Billy Shamiirmir.
- 31:51Speaker 13: Rebecca this afternoon.
- 31:52Speaker 14: They had some pretty strong evidence.
- 31:54Speaker 1: It definitely was that video of Billy Shamiermir and Lou
- 31:57Speaker 1: Harris at the same time I don't want on the
- 32:00Speaker 1: day that she was killed, is very compelling evidence for
- 32:04Speaker 1: the prosecution.
- 32:05Speaker 6: Now, looking out of the front door of that walmart, Yes, sir,
- 32:09Speaker 6: can we see miss Harris walking in?
- 32:11Speaker 17: Yeah?
- 32:12Speaker 15: And is that Billie Chamier or walking in?
- 32:14Speaker 19: He is?
- 32:16Speaker 15: This is miss Harris here? This, sir, this individual washing
- 32:19Speaker 15: right here? Is that mister Tremier? It is mister Tremer
- 32:23Speaker 15: leaves that area, goes where shouldn't bath in the area
- 32:28Speaker 15: where the water fountains are found. There's the three twenty
- 32:31Speaker 15: seven fifty three.
- 32:33Speaker 6: Do we see.
- 32:34Speaker 15: Emerging there Miss Harrison? And then mister Chamier.
- 32:37Speaker 34: Then leaves the water fountain and then three twenty eight
- 32:40Speaker 34: twenty three she's advancing towards the front. Yes, this is
- 32:45Speaker 34: the Eggsley doors. Do we see mister Tamirier Eggsley there?
- 32:50Speaker 34: We did at three twenty nine, twenty seventh. Do we
- 32:53Speaker 34: see miss Harris Agson wan we didn't.
- 32:56Speaker 31: He's a starker, he's a surveiller, and then he's a killer.
- 33:01Speaker 31: And so it starts to draw the picture out. When
- 33:03Speaker 31: you have the Walmart video.
- 33:06Speaker 15: Did you know an individual by the name of lou
- 33:08Speaker 15: Tea Harris?
- 33:09Speaker 5: Yes, it was Harris. Was my mother and mamas.
- 33:12Speaker 15: This photo that you have Thiss Harris here two of six.
- 33:16Speaker 6: We'll see you smile and there as I kind of
- 33:18Speaker 6: talk about it in her personality a little bit there.
- 33:21Speaker 15: Yes, very much, so okay, fun of you around. Absolutely
- 33:25Speaker 15: the jewelry items that she's wearing in these pictures of
- 33:28Speaker 15: those items common.
- 33:29Speaker 5: To her, Yeah, she will have Your dad.
- 33:34Speaker 15: Will sure he was from marked the sixties with number
- 33:36Speaker 15: one fifty six. Is this that jewelry box that was
- 33:39Speaker 15: owned by this blue Tea Harris.
- 33:41Speaker 6: Yes, he's able to confirm that the jewelry box belonged
- 33:45Speaker 6: to lou Harris. Some of the jewelry that was in
- 33:48Speaker 6: Billy Chimmer's hands belonged to lou Harris.
- 33:52Speaker 3: They weren't good facts. Is he in possession of stolen poverty? Maybe?
- 34:02Speaker 3: But does that mean that he killed miss Harris?
- 34:09Speaker 34: Thank well.
- 34:14Speaker 12: Prosecutors are close to wrapping their case in the latest
- 34:17Speaker 12: trial of accus serial killer Billy Shmirmir.
- 34:20Speaker 1: He is accused in the murders of eighteen women, but
- 34:24Speaker 1: he was only tried for the case of lou Harris
- 34:27Speaker 1: here in Dallas.
- 34:28Speaker 15: Your honor, ladies, gentlemen of the jury in the state
- 34:30Speaker 15: of Texas, rests cases.
- 34:32Speaker 16: All right, thank you, events anticipae callings, no, no resting
- 34:39Speaker 16: on it.
- 34:39Speaker 6: I absolutely wanted him to take the stand. I thought
- 34:42Speaker 6: that if I could get him on the stand, with
- 34:44Speaker 6: the amount of lies that he has portrayed, that I
- 34:47Speaker 6: could really kind of dig into him on a few
- 34:50Speaker 6: different things. Ultimately, he decided not to testify.
- 34:54Speaker 15: All right, close the party, if you made proceeds, Sir
- 34:57Speaker 15: Nigle scored.
- 35:00Speaker 13: What we really hear talking about is a name and
- 35:02Speaker 13: indict and you have a picture of a very kind,
- 35:06Speaker 13: gentle person.
- 35:08Speaker 15: And you have some of her stuff.
- 35:11Speaker 4: The things that were precious and meaningful to her have.
- 35:14Speaker 15: Been offered into evidence. You know where they came from.
- 35:18Speaker 13: Those are the things that made up Lutie Harris. And
- 35:22Speaker 13: the issue here today is how did she go from
- 35:25Speaker 13: this to this? Was it a coughing fit. Was it
- 35:31Speaker 13: a heart attack? Was it capital murder?
- 35:38Speaker 2: Ordinary?
- 35:39Speaker 13: We don't think about things the way other people do,
- 35:42Speaker 13: but something like this is likely the instrument of death
- 35:49Speaker 13: that put her in that picture and turned her from
- 35:52Speaker 13: this person, this loving, kind person, to the way she
- 35:56Speaker 13: was found. The reality of it is all this, the
- 36:01Speaker 13: instrument of her death, has been seated beyond a reasonable
- 36:06Speaker 13: doubt in this courtroom just a few feet from you,
- 36:14Speaker 13: and we're asking.
- 36:15Speaker 15: You, based on the evidence, based on the law, based on.
- 36:20Speaker 4: Your oath, to return early of guilty of capital murbury
- 36:26Speaker 4: as charged.
- 36:27Speaker 15: When you do, you know, close the circle on this,
- 36:31Speaker 15: put this.
- 36:31Speaker 31: To rest, allow it to heal, and let us all
- 36:35Speaker 31: move on.
- 36:36Speaker 15: Thank you, right, please proceeding.
- 36:41Speaker 3: In every case that I have, I come up with
- 36:46Speaker 3: some sort of theme.
- 36:49Speaker 8: And I didn't know until probably a couple of minutes ago,
- 36:51Speaker 8: after speaking of mister cruise over kind of what my
- 36:54Speaker 8: theme what's going to be for this this closing argument
- 36:57Speaker 8: for you guys, And then I hit it all bark
- 37:04Speaker 8: and nobody.
- 37:07Speaker 5: It's a lot of barking.
- 37:10Speaker 3: They're just barking.
- 37:13Speaker 5: Their whole throughor theaircase.
- 37:17Speaker 8: Is Walmart Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, I said at any point.
- 37:22Speaker 8: Did you actually see any interaction between miss Harris and
- 37:26Speaker 8: mister Shirmermer No, no, no.
- 37:28Speaker 3: No, sir, And I promise you this. If they had it,
- 37:37Speaker 3: you would have it. The reason they don't have it
- 37:40Speaker 3: is because it didn't happen.
- 37:44Speaker 35: No interaction. But see they want anything that does. It's
- 37:49Speaker 35: the faus whoa well, what's he doing there? He's got
- 37:55Speaker 35: to be watching her? Ask herself what does it mean?
- 38:01Speaker 3: All mark no bike?
- 38:05Speaker 8: And I send it to you to stay cannot reach
- 38:07Speaker 8: their burden, and we're gonna ask that you find mister
- 38:09Speaker 8: shamiermir not kilty.
- 38:12Speaker 17: Thank you?
- 38:13Speaker 7: Helps you?
- 38:15Speaker 6: Hey you please a lord? All bark and no bite,
- 38:20Speaker 6: all bark and no bike. Do you remember how we
- 38:22Speaker 6: started this trial after you took your oath. It started
- 38:25Speaker 6: with these words true billivandi. That was me marking all
- 38:32Speaker 6: this stuff. That's mean, Biden, Okay, all this stuff it's evidence.
- 38:41Speaker 36: It's evidence of the guilts of Billy Shamiirmir and the
- 38:44Speaker 36: death of lou T Harris.
- 38:47Speaker 6: That's what this is, plain and sinner. You are instructed
- 38:53Speaker 6: to go back to deliberate and to render a just verdict.
- 38:57Speaker 6: And when that verdict is a verdict of guilty.
- 38:59Speaker 30: It will be loud, it will be proud, it will.
- 39:03Speaker 15: Be justice, and it will be nothing and no amount
- 39:08Speaker 15: of surprise to.
- 39:10Speaker 36: This man right here, and it will be what he deserves.
- 39:17Speaker 36: Please bring back the speedy verdict so that we.
- 39:20Speaker 12: Can put it in to this thank The fate of
- 39:25Speaker 12: alleged serial killer Billy Shamirmir is in the hands of
- 39:29Speaker 12: the jury. Jurors are deliberating whether to convict him of
- 39:32Speaker 12: capital murder in the death.
- 39:33Speaker 31: Of Lou Harris the second trial. They while thirty seven minutes.
- 39:40Speaker 16: All right, ladies and ja jurry, it's fiers fan think
- 39:44Speaker 16: the birth.
- 39:45Speaker 15: Yeah, and what is the verdict of juris?
- 40:00Speaker 18: That was very affirming that another jury could see that
- 40:03Speaker 18: it was pretty clear what had happened here and could
- 40:06Speaker 18: call for justice.
- 40:07Speaker 31: The decision had been made by the previous administration to
- 40:10Speaker 31: seek death, and then I decided that I would not
- 40:14Speaker 31: do that. We can I promise anybody that someone will
- 40:17Speaker 31: actually be executed because of the appellate process.
- 40:22Speaker 22: Have you said for me sure when we sits a
- 40:27Speaker 22: gentleman of his sport, maybe will be pay into the
- 40:30Speaker 22: tests pro elim.
- 40:31Speaker 12: Justice will serve a sent of life.
- 40:38Speaker 21: You see before you the families of the numerous victims
- 40:42Speaker 21: of Billy Shamerman. Today he went from being an alleged
- 40:46Speaker 21: felon to a convicted killer.
- 40:50Speaker 15: Justice was done.
- 40:52Speaker 20: I'm going to bring these mothers back, but you know
- 40:56Speaker 20: this is step one in a process.
- 40:58Speaker 37: These mothers and grandmother and sisters and aunts and friends
- 41:03Speaker 37: that we lost, they all were independent. They had a value,
- 41:09Speaker 37: and Shamirmir took that and we just want to make
- 41:13Speaker 37: sure that it doesn't happen again.
- 41:23Speaker 9: We begin with the stunning into a case we have
- 41:25Speaker 9: been covering for years. Today, convicted killer Billy Shamermir was
- 41:29Speaker 9: found dead in his prison cell. Sources till WFAA. Other
- 41:33Speaker 9: inmates watched him get attacked, and none of them intervene.
- 41:37Speaker 32: This was jail house justice, at least as far as
- 41:42Speaker 32: Shamirmir is concerned.
- 41:44Speaker 3: He is over and done with.
- 41:47Speaker 22: My mother died in fear. This man did not have
- 41:52Speaker 22: a peaceful passing. There is some relief in feeling that
- 42:00Speaker 22: he didn't get off easily.
- 42:02Speaker 2: It's scary to think of how many other victims there
- 42:03Speaker 2: could be that we just don't know about. With him
- 42:07Speaker 2: living in other states, I can't even begin to imagine
- 42:09Speaker 2: how many people could have been killed by him.
- 42:15Speaker 11: It's pretty scary.
- 42:20Speaker 5: Yeah, he took a secret to the grave.