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Patriots Unfiltered 7/3: 2025 Expectations, Offseason Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeon podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: There just was a lot of division, I think within
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  Speaker 3: the ranks on those two staffs, and I think they
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  Speaker 3: can really undermine what you're doing as a head coach.
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  Speaker 4: When Barth's cheating on you with David andrews Now on
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  Speaker 4: that his new podcast, you should ask him a lot.
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  Speaker 5: That's a fair point.
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  Speaker 2: I can just see Evan, he's watching the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: and he's got his jersey mics and he's like half
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  Speaker 2: bites like they're running a six to one with the Tills.
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  Speaker 6: We all decided at some point that red meat was
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  Speaker 6: the devil. So I don't know who you people are
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  Speaker 6: eating a lot of red meat.
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  Speaker 5: Is not eat anything that bleeds or blood at one time.
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  Speaker 6: That's not It's not the best for you.
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  Speaker 5: Can I go to my dark negative side.
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  Speaker 3: Sure of course, that's why you're here, which people like
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  Speaker 3: you in front of it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, they got nothing three hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: This makes the package they got for Mookie Bats look
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  Speaker 3: like they got Jason bear attack in.
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  Speaker 6: Deren Hall for Heathcliffe and is the trade hit on
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  Speaker 6: by the way, July end of July. I just don't
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  Speaker 6: know why trading.
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  Speaker 5: For a month and a half. It's a month and
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  Speaker 5: a half from now.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know how calendars work.
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  Speaker 3: It's less than a month of west he said, end
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  Speaker 3: of July.
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  Speaker 6: Usually it's the middle of July. But but it's the
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  Speaker 6: end of June.
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  Speaker 5: Now the seventh. That's the middle of children, middle of June.
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  Speaker 6: So it's less than a month away.
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  Speaker 5: I said a month and a half because he said
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  Speaker 5: it was the end of July.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome, red Light go on? But now I
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  Speaker 5: do red Light is on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, madam, it is a special fourth of July Eve
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  Speaker 2: show with starring Deuce Evan, Paul, Fred Matt and Nabooth World.
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  Speaker 5: Is that a face? Of course it is fourth What
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  Speaker 5: are the.
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  Speaker 6: Traditions for that?
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  Speaker 4: You get bro find you don't make your powders on
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  Speaker 4: the third?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: What some places do the fireworks on the third?
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  Speaker 5: Listen?
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  Speaker 2: My town did the fireworks last Saturday, and I forgot
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  Speaker 2: and the dog went was Yeah, usually I can prep
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  Speaker 2: my dog, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, yeah, I'm going to value or something. How do
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  Speaker 6: you prep your dog? It's a real thing.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I know it is.
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  Speaker 6: They're terrifying.
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  Speaker 5: I know it is. Yeah, poor thing.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, that went on for seventeen minutes, literally across
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  Speaker 2: the street from Jeez. So but yes, some town towns
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  Speaker 2: do do it on the third tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, need them does it on the third? I think
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  Speaker 6: because like people have plans on the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. This Fourth of July is probably my second favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Holiday behind Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: Fair. Yeah, look at that good rankings Power rank my holiday.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Israel and Palestine coming together.
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  Speaker 5: That's yeah. Fourthge life for you is a big one.
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  Speaker 5: That's like everything everything you love. I love it. Yeah
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  Speaker 5: you said that. I love it. And the food's better,
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  Speaker 5: but I do like Christmas the best.
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  Speaker 6: So you don't have turkey?
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you say that four traditional Fourth of July food
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  Speaker 2: is better than Thanksgiving food?
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  Speaker 3: By launch Nesgiving food is the most overrated absolute and.
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  Speaker 5: My mom for Fourth of July we'd always get a
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  Speaker 5: big roast. It was just what's the best a roast?
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of weird. I have to say. It's a
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  Speaker 5: reference to Jaws. Oh my holiday roast, I couldn't resist.
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  Speaker 6: I wus a lot of roasts.
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  Speaker 5: I went to the movies here.
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  Speaker 4: I've been on a little vacation and I saw a
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  Speaker 4: preview four Jaws, which I know everyone make fun of me.
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  Speaker 4: But that music when it starts coming through the big
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  Speaker 4: speakers and then yeah.
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  Speaker 6: How did you see you? For a movie?
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  Speaker 5: They're releasing it, Evan, because it's a classic. Well Fleet
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  Speaker 5: drives playing it. Are they really I don't know. August
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  Speaker 5: twenty ninth, me and Paul were talking.
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  Speaker 4: They re release it, and they also are giving away
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  Speaker 4: and not giving away. You can buy it, but the
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  Speaker 4: souvenir cups are like the barrel from the Yeah, so I.
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  Speaker 5: Go on with three battles.
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  Speaker 4: On's got my name written all over it, I think
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  Speaker 4: August twenty ninth, so I think we I think we
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  Speaker 4: might have to make a little walk over to the theater.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe Paul's got under something, He's got under the boat.
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  Speaker 4: We can we can just talk the whole movie and
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  Speaker 4: people that these guys are the most annoying guys ever.
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  Speaker 5: Were just line for line the whole you had to
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  Speaker 5: deal with that. I did well. I'm glad you brought
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  Speaker 5: that up.
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  Speaker 8: Aul.
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  Speaker 4: That was something for the group because I was at
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  Speaker 4: a movie with my kids and there were a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of middle schoolers who came in and I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Like, Oh, this isn't gonna be good. They're just talking.
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  Speaker 4: One of them took a speakerphone call just as the
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  Speaker 4: movie Jurassic Park was starting, and I just was so
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  Speaker 4: stuck because I feel like there's like you can start
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  Speaker 4: to get into it with middle school boys, but you're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna win. Like those kids, I feel like, are
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  Speaker 4: just they're just gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Be shut up, old man, get out of you know.
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  Speaker 5: So I was just I thought of you guys because
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I been friend the hammer, Like, what are
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  Speaker 5: you gonna do? They're middle school I know.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what I said to my kids afterwards, is
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, the only thing to do,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, is to be like and I won't.
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  Speaker 5: I won't swear her on the raid, like hey, shu,
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  Speaker 5: you know you just like that me. I mean, man
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  Speaker 5: boy aggressive sho like shut the front right now, you
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  Speaker 5: know that kind? But I just a parent got up
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  Speaker 5: and talked to them I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, it was just they were talking the whole the
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  Speaker 2: whole movie. The whole movie is no, you gotta come down,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta lay the hammer down.
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  Speaker 5: There's no winning though against middle school kids. I just
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  Speaker 5: I felt powerless.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like, no matter what I say, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have some smart ass comment, it's just gonna get him
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  Speaker 4: an even more.
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  Speaker 3: You can't hit him saying I don't have to hammer.
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  Speaker 5: And when they walked out at the end of the
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  Speaker 5: movie and I saw them in the light, I was
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  Speaker 5: just like, you gotta be kidding me, Like, these kids
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  Speaker 5: look like they're about you know, they probably are like eleven,
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  Speaker 5: twelve years old.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's where the that's your phone conversation.
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  Speaker 5: That was ridiculous, and they and you could tell they
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  Speaker 5: thought they were being funny with it. And I was
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  Speaker 5: getting ready to get up and say something because.
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  Speaker 2: We were in those nice, yeah, reclined seats, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're at your lette stadium, they publish if there's
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  Speaker 2: a problem.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, detective.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking about, the same thing in
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  Speaker 2: the movie.
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  Speaker 4: And then but you know how like movie movie, like
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  Speaker 4: movie employees, like the guy who just comes in with
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  Speaker 4: you know, like the long hair and they're like.
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  Speaker 6: He's the one doing a phone call. That's that's good.
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  Speaker 5: That's why if you're not here to watch the movie,
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  Speaker 5: get out. I know it was. It ruined my my,
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  Speaker 5: my move, my movie going experience.
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  Speaker 6: So it was so I didn't the movie and self
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  Speaker 6: didn't ruin it because.
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  Speaker 4: Now the movie wasn't great, but it's like, though, so
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  Speaker 4: that was kind of my way to try to make
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  Speaker 4: it a little.
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  Speaker 5: Bit more entertaining. Three. No, it's his Jurassic part of
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  Speaker 5: Jurassic part Josh three. They did actually do that later
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  Speaker 5: the terrible, terrible movie. Yeah, Scar Joe was in it.
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  Speaker 5: Though it was it was forgettable, you know, but I
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  Speaker 5: feel like the three D kind of makes it visually
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  Speaker 5: entertaining so you can sit through it. At least it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't I think.
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  Speaker 6: So it's upsetting to me that, like, did Hollywood so unriginal?
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  Speaker 6: Now that we're on like Jurassic Park seventeen, it was like,
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  Speaker 6: can we come up with something?
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  Speaker 5: We had to count out it's eight you're right movie,
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  Speaker 5: this is the eighth, and.
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  Speaker 6: Then Fast and Furious is coming out with like this
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  Speaker 6: is they're saying, this is the last one.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, it's the slowing down and not quite so ferious.
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  Speaker 6: It's like fast eleven.
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  Speaker 5: I just have the chime in. It's the seventh one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh the dress work my son miscounted.
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  Speaker 3: Then I apologize, but still I would have thought like four,
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  Speaker 3: like seven.
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  Speaker 6: No, because like Chris Pratt had his whole No, I
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  Speaker 6: I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 5: Each one becomes like and we're gonna make this crazy
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  Speaker 5: new dinosaur that yeah, like you can't do the you know,
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  Speaker 5: the t rexident. But then at the end it's one
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  Speaker 5: crazy it's a little bit over the top.
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  Speaker 6: Did you like the original?
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  Speaker 2: That seems like I really did, Like ready, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I thought the Chris Pratt reboot wasn't terrible. But
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  Speaker 6: then they should have just stopped there like they kept now.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just the same thing. Every time you get loose.
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  Speaker 5: Then I get loose the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 6: It's there was some jokes like that and the Chris
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  Speaker 6: Pratt one where it was like they did this again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there were some of that.
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  Speaker 5: That was summer movie, you know, thing to do in
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  Speaker 5: the summer, go see a movie. All right, Patriots, what
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  Speaker 5: do we got? Nothing? Nothing?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, based on the first eight minutes of the show,
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  Speaker 3: I think, well you can, Yes, we don't have.
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  Speaker 2: I was listening to Paul's show, or one of Paul's
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  Speaker 2: shows yesterday and not the one I was on. I
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  Speaker 2: guess there was some facacta list out there that ranked
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  Speaker 2: the offensive cordinators and Josh McDaniels came up like twenty
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  Speaker 2: one or twenty two, twenty two. Interesting, And what do
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  Speaker 2: you think about that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't look at.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is that is that the bias of the
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  Speaker 2: his head coaching experience?
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  Speaker 3: So coming in I looked at and I was originally
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  Speaker 3: taken aback when I saw the list. It's definitely low.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even after further evaluation, it's it's the.
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  Speaker 6: Thirty third team. No, it was Pro Football Network. I believe,
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  Speaker 6: Oh that was your first mistake.
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  Speaker 3: And they had the list the top ten, I would
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  Speaker 3: say kind of inarguable, like they're all I would say,
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  Speaker 3: considered to be better than Josh McDaniel's pants got. But
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  Speaker 3: when you get to the next ten, I think there's
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  Speaker 3: some there's some arguments to be made individually here and there.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's preference. I think what I think with
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  Speaker 3: the the message there, they think he's I think a
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  Speaker 3: little antiquated I think his his offense is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit behind the times. I think that's the drawback there.
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  Speaker 3: But there was other guys like Brian Dabele. What do
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  Speaker 3: you think, Brian Dables? It was play callers by the way, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: Kyle shanahan, all right, Kyle shanahan, Sean McVay.
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  Speaker 5: You know these are guys.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I have the list, like it's the list with all
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  Speaker 6: the analysis, so I have to like scroll through things.
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  Speaker 3: It's Andy Reid, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannon, Kyle shanahan McVay,
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 5: So there's a Kevin O'Connell arguable.
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  Speaker 3: I would I would say that you asked one hundred
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  Speaker 3: fans guys, but you ask one hundred NFL fans and
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  Speaker 3: they're all going to say no. Those guys are all
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  Speaker 3: But Brian Dabele I would think still had a good reputation,
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  Speaker 3: but he's down where McDaniels is.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why I took it.
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  Speaker 3: This is more of an indictment in the offense, I
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  Speaker 3: think than the actual play caller.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because if Dabe was still with Josh Allen, he's
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  Speaker 5: probably I.
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  Speaker 6: Have I have a lot of gripes with this list,
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  Speaker 6: So I think that the middle ten, but not to
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  Speaker 6: cho Kyle Shann's number one. I can't get higher than that,
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  Speaker 6: and rightfully so.
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  Speaker 3: But the top ten you're okay with? Right, top ten
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  Speaker 3: looks good? Yeah, it's the next ten?
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  Speaker 5: How many of those?
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  Speaker 6: Like how is Dave Knalis thirteen on this list?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know Zach Taylor with Kingsbury, Dave Canalis, Joe Brady
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  Speaker 3: I think is in there somewhere, Like.
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  Speaker 2: So, what what are what are the correct here? It's
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  Speaker 2: play callers? So are they looking for understands the flow
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  Speaker 2: of the game?
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  Speaker 6: You know, like Zach Taylor at eighteen ahead of Josh
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  Speaker 6: McDaniels is laughable. Like if you gave Josh McDaniels, Joe Burrow,
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  Speaker 6: Jamar Chase and T Higgins, he would like he would
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  Speaker 6: also have a great offense.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering, like, what are the what are
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  Speaker 2: the elements that they believe whoever made this list to
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  Speaker 2: make up a play call?
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  Speaker 6: It's a good question because you guys in the middle ten.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Stefanski was actually low based on what he's
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  Speaker 3: done with a mess of the situation at the quarterback at.
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  Speaker 5: Times agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: I would just like to know from a really just
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  Speaker 4: from a general numbers standpoint of how many head coaches
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  Speaker 4: are play callers, Like, what is that number in the NFL?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's it's you know, I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 4: that would say probably the top ten is all head coaches.
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  Speaker 4: I would guess this is that, like where Evan is
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  Speaker 4: the first offensive coordinator if you don't mind scrolling of that, because.
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  Speaker 6: Well, now Ben Johnson's a head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Johnson, McVeigh, O'Connell.
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  Speaker 6: Sean Payton, Todd Monkin at eight.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like the first seven are all head coaches.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but so the criteria, it doesn't even have an
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  Speaker 6: author on here. The criteria is a reputation, recent performance,
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  Speaker 6: current scheme, and trajectory. And to me, like that's not
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  Speaker 6: play calling. Has nothing to do with play call.
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  Speaker 2: So I think they're like they're just calling an offensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator with play call.
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  Speaker 6: I guess because like technically the architects like deduce his point,
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  Speaker 6: like Kyle Shanahan is the architect of the forty nine
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  Speaker 6: ers offense, but he's not their offensive coordinator. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 6: their head coach. So yeah, it in order to include
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  Speaker 6: guys like Shanahan, McVeigh Andy Reid, like you have to
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  Speaker 6: open it up to the head coaches, and the only
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  Speaker 6: way to really do that is I would like, maybe
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  Speaker 6: it's too fancy, but like offensive architect is really what
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  Speaker 6: you're talking about, Like who is the director of the offense.
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  Speaker 3: If I were doing this list, I would absolutely have
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  Speaker 3: all of those head coaches there because I consider those
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  Speaker 3: guys whether they're actually calling the plays.
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  Speaker 5: They're running the office drive of the offense. Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, Fred off the top is one of their criteria,
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  Speaker 3: you know, recent recent trends. I think that he probably
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  Speaker 3: does get knocked stable reputation. Yeah, Table and mc daniels,
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  Speaker 3: I think for their recent time. I think if you
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  Speaker 3: did this, you know, three or four years ago over dable,
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  Speaker 3: he'd be higher than that. But the giant situation wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like the Josh Allen, which is again why I agree
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  Speaker 3: with Evans's point about well, jeez, if he gave McDaniels
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  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and T Higgins and Jamar Chase, I think
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  Speaker 3: you'd probably look at him a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 2: And and you know, I get what people are saying
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  Speaker 2: about maybe McDaniels offense has looked to be antiquated, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think McDaniels has shown adaptability over the years.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he went in O seven.
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  Speaker 2: Once he had Moss in those tools, they opened things up.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're want to give Belichick credit
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  Speaker 2: for that or McDaniels, but that was a different offense
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  Speaker 2: than we've seen.
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  Speaker 5: I can I go and see Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom Brady's involved too, and obviously he had to
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  Speaker 2: execute it. But somebody decided, okay, we're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to start getting changed the most that year.
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  Speaker 5: Well he did.
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  Speaker 2: He showed that he can do it anyway, but somebody
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  Speaker 2: had to decide we're gonna do it a different way.
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  Speaker 2: Whether that was Belichick or McDaniels, somebody had to make
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  Speaker 2: that decision.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was Brady. He told them this is
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  Speaker 5: what we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's the one who throws the passes. I
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  Speaker 3: think he decides where to throw the ball.
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  Speaker 5: I understand. I think he was far more aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: But don't you think don't you think that the offense
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  Speaker 2: changed a little bit once they had Moss.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely certainly threw the ball more. Yeah, I mean their
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  Speaker 6: personnel change like they went to three receiver. They've been
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  Speaker 6: a slot receiver with Welker.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if you want to call it
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: a group decision, fine, but I think McDaniels was involved
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: We'll go to twenty twenty two. I mean with Cam Newton.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: I mean he had to have to adjust things to that.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I think this circle is the biggest question we have
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: about Josh McDaniels, especially here, is just without Tom Brady,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: what does it really look like, you know, when he
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: really has his guy. I mean we'd have to probably
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: do a deep dive into I mean, what was it
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: got rid of what's his face from from Denver when
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: he got there? Jake Cautler and Brandon Butler and Marshall.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: But then who is the other guy that Kyle or
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Tim Tebow hol Orton for a while.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Kyle Orton instead of Jay Keller kind of there, you know.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: So so that maybe not the greatest personnel guy.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Curious moves, I know, that's but not a good head coach.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I was critical of the Patriots of that rookie year
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: for Matt Jones that they were coddling him. They weren't
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: you know, testing him and letting him make mistakes. But
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: maybe if McDaniels is here and he was being one
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: hundred percent honest, he said he just couldn't do things.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: So I had to kind of what it is we
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: had to do that based on saw from mac from that.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Point, and and I do feel like they coddled him.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: But you know, and I've been pretty stubborn about this,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: but I have to admit that, you know, the numbers
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: would tell you they were okay, Right, they did all right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: And he would probably make Jones. That's the only way
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: we could have been open.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I think there was so many of those points that
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: were scored by, whether directly or indirectly, the defense that
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: people don't really look into it. But the numbers are
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the numbers, the numbers that had them being okay.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Especially in comparison with the last two years we've watched
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: the offense. He'll for that based on what we saw
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: in the last two years.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it might be semantics, but like, that's not a
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: play caller list, Like that's not what play calling is, right.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I don't but I think you're taking the term play
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: caller literally.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, I'm not offensive architects. I'm talking about.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: No, no, and that who's running the I understand.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Saying if you were taking it literally, that wouldn't be
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: a good list.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: It's not a good list anyways, but it wouldn't be
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: especially would not be a good list if you're talking
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: about play calling itself. I think McDaniel's the top ten
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: play caller in the NFL. Like actually in game play calling,
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: you know, play calling, opening script, sequencing plays, setting up
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: things early in the games, adjusting to things that defense
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: is doing in game, you know, understanding situations like that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: That's play calling.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: That's the type of stuff that I think that he's
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: a lead at. You know, in terms of interview, if
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: you want to say that these guys have more innovative
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: offenses for twenty twenty five, I guess you could make
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: that argument. I don't know what mcdaniels's offense is going
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: to look like now, but you can make that case.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: But if you want to talk about guys that truly
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: understand the chess match and with the defense, and you're
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: running a play in the first quarter that isn't necessarily
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: all the time running it to be super successful running it,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: but you're running it because in the fourth quarter, you're
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: gonna have a counter that they're not going to be expecting,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: and that's when you're gonna make the big play happen.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: You know, so much of the play callers opening script
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: is just setting up, Okay, if we come out in
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: this personnel grouping in this formation, like how is the
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: defense going to defend us? In that? You're learning, right,
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: You're digesting information so that later on in the game
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: you can call plays reacting to that. So, like, those
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: are the types of things that you get into with
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: play calling. That's different between designing an offense, Like those
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: are two different.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I through even like the opening script of a game
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: onto that as well, Like guys that come out and
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: we saw plenty of times with the remember Patriots teams,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you know the other team will come out, go right
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: on the field and you're like, geez, how then they
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: wouldn't score again sometimes, But I think that's a great
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: reflection on some of these play callers as well.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: How prepared are you?
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: That's the one, you know, set of plays where you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: not being reactive to how the game's going.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: You're going in this is how we want to do it. Guys,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: offensive score on those first positions.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: But everybody treats the opening script like some coaches treat
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: it differently than others. Bill, I think was about gathering
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: information in the opening script. So like that's why I
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: think a lot of the times you did see offenses
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: score on the opening drive, because all Bill wanted to
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: do was see what their game plan was, Like we're
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: gonna come out, We're gonna be kind of vanilla, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: we're just gonna see how they want to attack us,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: and then I'm going to come to the sideline with
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: my three things that are going to stop them for
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: the rest of the game. And so the Patriots were
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: more about opening scripts being about digesting information that the
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: opponent was giving to them so that they could adjust
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: to what the opponent was doing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: And then annoying as an offensive coordinator though, where you're like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I want to get these guys on the run.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I want to go out there, I want to score,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, because there's many coordinators think toward defensive side
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: of game planning and you know, not trying to break
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: out all the tricks that you have up your sleeve
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: right out of the gate. But I'm fascinated by this
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: year with Josh the position he's been, where he's been,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the opportunity has to kind.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Of cement a legacy here.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: He's got Drake May at his fingertips who has a
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: little bit of experience to build off of it. It's
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: a huge year, huge opportunity for him, I mean, his
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: legacy here the Patriots already probably pretty safe with the
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: success he had with Tom Brady, but to take it
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to a whole other level now and really carve out
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: his own space as you know, playing people say, hey,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: it was all Tom Brady, and you know what can
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Josh do for this team now and get this offense
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: back on track that's just been i mean terrible the
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: last two years.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Who is more to prove him? Are Vybel probably him?
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Good question? I mean, I don't know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: My first instinct is him that I think Mike vrabel
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Is is going to coach a team that's gonna play hard, consistently,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: and I think his success will just depend on the
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: talent level, whereas Josh might be asked and I'm just
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: spitball off the top of my head here, but Josh
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: might be asked to have to work around some of
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: those deficiencies a little bit more than you know Verebe
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: can get away with a team that plays hard and
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't make mistakes, whereas if Josh's offense does not produce
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: points in the NFL, it's gonna.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: But I like the question for it because you can
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: make a strong argument for both.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I know some guys have been
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: able to do it, but not a lot of guys
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: get a third shot. So if it doesn't worry for Rabel,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot to prove to make sure that
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And obvious what Mike just said.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: About McDaniels, like, there's already that element of people out
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: there that think that it's Tom Brady.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: It's never really done it without Brady.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So one of your guys, Joe Murray, I heard him
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: say it might have been this morning, said if if
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: May has a great year, May will get the credit
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: for it, but if he has a bad year, McDaniels
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: will get the blame.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I believe that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking to myself, Well, if May's turning
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the ball over, May's going to get blamed for that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: He will, you know, And I think if May makes
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: an enormous leap, I think McDaniel's going to.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Get a lot of credit. I would think he's going
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: to make some credit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: He's going to get credit. Ye question, people are going
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to say May is really good. Yeah, But there's no
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: doubt in my mind that McDaniels is going to get
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: credit for tapping into that potential and doing what they
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: couldn't do last year and avoiding the mistakes and all that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Right, McDaniels will get credit. I think so too. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: I disagree and he should.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I just saying it credit, like to what end? Like
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: he's not going to get another head coaching job? Oh no,
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: So like I mean, yeah, he'll get credit for I
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: think most people believe that McDaniel's are a really good
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: offensive mine. I don't. I don't really think that there's
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: a whole lot maybe on Paul shows, but like, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: don't think that there's a whole lot of people, uh
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: in the league, in the league as they say that,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: like look down on Josh McDaniels as an offensive coordinator
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: as a head coach. You know, maybe, but I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: a lot of people respect else.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: I wonder if.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: We think more of McDaniels here, myself included, then, is
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: largely the opinion around the league.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I probably because A we know more about him, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: B it's the head coaching I think tarnish his other achiation.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Like to Evan's point when he was talking about like
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of nuance, you know, sequencing plays and the
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: script and what you're trying to do and how you
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: were adjusting. I have no idea how anybody else in
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the league is at that, because if you don't.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Watch every every game, every drive of every every game, you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Have no All I know is that after one play
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Brady looked at Josh and went like that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: So if Brady liked.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Him then the night before.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: So I would.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: But I would agree with Evan's assessment that the Patriots
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: that I've watched over the last twenty five years have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: been very good at that. They have for the most part,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: they've been very good at sort of seeing what the
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: other team's doing both sides of the ball, adjusting and
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: not necessarily succeeding with one thing. They're figuring out different
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: ways to exploit matchups and whatnot. I think the Patriots
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: have been very good at that. I don't have any
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: idea if every other team is good at it, because
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think that closely.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of coaches, especially the Shanahan try guys.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: It's a system, and the system is like you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: they just you run the system and you eventually it works,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: you know, like you expect it to work.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if like Cincinnati's offense, does it
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: so well because their personnel is just that good, yes,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: or if they have something in the way that they're
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: designing offenses to get guys open.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I don't have much, no idea. I don't have much
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: positive things to say about that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: But that's that was just thought. That was just one
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: team that I just brought up. Yeah, you know, And
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: is it because of the personnel? Is it because I
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know the answer.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Is it you know?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Was McDaniels so successful at adjusting to what Seattle was
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: doing in Super Bowl forty whatever that one was forty nine?
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I think I've been to so many I can't remember.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Was it because they were adjusting to what Seattle was doing?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Or is it because Tom Brady's just that much better
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: than everybody else? And he just says, I figured it out.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I have the answers to the test, as he famously said,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and this is what we're going to do. Yeah, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: don't know, Like I think there's a lot of nuance
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: there that's hard to know from the outside.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I'm going back to twenty twenty one and trying to
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: remember who got credit for a solid year between Josh
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and and Mac, and I think they both kind of
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: got credit. I mean, Josh got another head coaching job
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and Mac made the Pro Bowl alternate.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You know, but Mac was was absolutely given a lot
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: of credit for what a great rookie year.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Drafting year two?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Do you remember maybe the only time that I can
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: never remember on this show, Fred drew the ire of
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: people when you remember the five guys that got drafted in.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: The first round, who would you take now?
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: And Fred was like Trevor Lawrence, oh yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And people got Mady Oh yeah, remember Yeah, That's like
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the only time I ever really remember getting getting getting
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the smoke. As the kids said, oh never, no one's
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: ever given Fred a problem, and he said Trevor Lawrence, yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: because that's how highly people were thinking of Mac.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Jst like, And now Trevor Lawrence hasn't done great either,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: But I still say in a better team, with better coaching,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Would have had a better career. I see I see
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: the upside with him, and.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: You think he's one of those guys though that's going
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: to catch on, maybe with another team.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: And I think.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I think he could be one of those Kirk Cousins
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: type of guys.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: You know, he's got all the talent, just needs to
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: get out of I remember we talked about it at
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: the time when he got drafted where whatever, going back
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to his high school stats, like the kid had lost
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: like one game ever, I think, and right then he arrives.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: In Jacksonville and it's it's been a whole lot of
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: losing for him. But yeah, so talented. Oh I still
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: like him.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I still like him, But I like Drake may too,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm happy we.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Have Liam Cone is thirteenth on this I think it was.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: That was the one that really stood out. That was
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: got Beatle and I because he's a you mask guy.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Beadle's a U Mass guy, and he's like, no, we'll
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: go that's absurd. That's absurd that he is. He is
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: that high in the list. That was the one that
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: really stuck on because.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Liam Cone is high, Dave Canalis was high. I thought
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Canals they had who was the other one that that
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: stood out to me, like Chip Kelly hasn't coached in
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: the NFL and quite a bit of time, but he's down.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: And yeah he's down to McDaniels.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: He was ahead of McDaniels, Dabel, it was it was
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Chip Kelly, Dable, someone else, and I think McDaniels that
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: was like the group, and I thought those guys should
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: have been ahead of, like Dave Canalis, and they don't.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: William Cohen but like Chip Kelly hasn't how tight and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Andy Reid's pants he's really tight.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: He was like three. Well, Josh lost somes weight. He
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: can't really wear type pants. He's pants, they're too loose.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: He used to be tight.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Adam and Louisiana writes in who do you think has
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the better Patriots legacy as of today? Josh McDaniels or
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Dante Scarnecia. I personally think Dante has it right now
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: because so much of McDaniel's success is tied to Brady.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But I think he could surpass Dante if he's successful
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: with May.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: It's gonna be Hardtecarnek's hard.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: He's kind of a legend, has lapped them. Yeah, he's
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: kind of a legend.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely a legend for sure. Yeah, I mean
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it's all Matthew Slater. Though Matthews Slater made.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: What well it just from the second, like Daniels, you
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: imaginary co host that's sitting next.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: To it's like dementia. Maybe it's early on set to
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: mention you know what it is. It's like I've been
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: doing like four days of vacation that I come in
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: for a couple of days. That's so I'm kind of like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm half vacation deuce right now.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: That's fine. Kellen Moore, like Jesus Keen.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, I will say though I noticed Dave Canalys
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: is getting a lot of love lately for some of
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the changes I guess he implemented for Carolina last year
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: and kind of tailoring the offense more around Bryce.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: The only thing I would say specifically with Canalis that
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I'm impressed with is he did what we kept talking
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: about wanting to see from the Patriots last year and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: in the second half of the season. You know, the
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: last quarter of the season, the Panthers became a difficult
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: team to play against, and they didn't win a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: of games, but they were very competitive. They won a
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: couple they looked like they were getting better. That's what
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: we wanted to see. I'll give Canalis credit for that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Navigating a difficult situation, having a bench your former number
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: one overall pick quarterback and then having him respond to
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: that tells me that he did it the right quote
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: unquote the right way.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Those things can go on.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: I just have a tough time with guys like Canalis
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: and Cone specifically because they're not running their own system
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: like they're running Bruce Arians's offense, which was in Tampa
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Bay McDaniel and there's there's a reason why Baker Mayfield
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: has transitioned offensive coordinators like three times now in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: last like five years, four years, and it's been seamless
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: because they're all running the same playbook. So it's like,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: you know, and look, I know every coordinator has his
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: own twist on things and things like that, but like
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: we're not really talking about you know, guys that are
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: truly like Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Those guys have really run their own offense like they
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: they are really you know, they're all offshoots of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: West Coast, but like they run their own offense. You know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: these guys are picking up where other people have left off.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: So it's like, I can't. I have a tough time
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: with that. You know, Josh like did the same thing,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: but John's been doing it for a really long time.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: So like, is it really the Charlie Weiss offense at
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: this point? Like probably not.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Call things the same. Yeah, yeah, we go back to
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Dante real quick.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: My joke aside, like that to me is what we
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: give a lot. I think we devalue coaches a lot.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Like we're always talking it's all the players, and.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I know football, but you know, I think coaches generally
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: get devalued. He's one though that even going back to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: when he was first here in the eighty five team,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: which you know, I'm doing a thing on right now,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: but like his unit was outstanding.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: His unit, they make game changing plays.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And granted he's only coaching a position group, so it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit hard, a little bit easier, I would say,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: but you guys saw it. No no matter who he had,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: he could put performances out of players, you know, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: again like it's not you're not a whole team, you're
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: not building the team, but he.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Could get everybody up to a functional level. He could
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: get anybody to a functional level. He could develop guys,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: and he did it consistently.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what we all look for in
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: our coaches that you know, have been around.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: It's just get the most out of your guys. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: that's something that whether.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: He was coaching special teams, which we were coaching tight ends,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Dante Scarneckia has done it in this league.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: He was a guy.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: We've heard it enough from enough players that you wanted
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to do well for him, like you didn't want to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: let him down, like and so whatever he did to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: get people to feel.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: That way, it worked. Yeah, you know hard, I just
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: didn't want to let him down demanding hard. I mean,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: the all the stories from those linemen, but they knew
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: he cared about them. Yeah, yeah, you know. Now he's
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: a he's a special guy. I mean, I got to
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: interview him for that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: If I think it's the first time I talked to
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: him a little bit while he was here, when he
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: was you know, coaching and various coaching, you know, when
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: we have the opportunity for availability. But it was the
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: first time I had just a real conversation with him
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and I shared with him that in ninety one, when
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I was at Hollison High School, I was on the sideline,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you know, our community cable access channel. I got to
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: be the cameraman with like a three quarter deck and
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: the game I was there against.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: New Orleans in ninety one was the game that Dick Macpherson.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I think, was sick and he took a scar had
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to fill in. And I said, you know, Scars, just
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: to let you know I was on the sidelines.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: When you need you know, all that's very special, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: just such a great guy. I mean you could just
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: tell why.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: It was funny you were on the sideline and I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: was watching that game in the stand.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: No, really, that was there. I mean that was like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: that's how stupid it was.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: When I started being in the video communications class at
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: my high school, I would do the sideline cam for
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: the football games and they were like, I remember the director,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: the guy the teacher.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Was like, oh my god, look at how steady this
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: kid is.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, like watching that, I love being shooting football.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And then there was a guy, Timmy King in town
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: who had his own cable access show and he was
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: like the Patriots of have credentialed me, I need a
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: cameraman who's good with a handheld and so, and this
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: is back in the day a three quarter inch deck,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: So you had a three quarter inch deck. The thing,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: of course, it was like the video cameras now are
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: like you could shoot the whole thing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: On your phone.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: This was you had a deck with the giant ass
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: video three quarter deck with the camera and we were
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: walking around all the parking lots.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: That was a year.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I think they won two games the whole year. Patriot
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: fans still just loving it, but went into the press box,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: went into the locker room afterwards, interviewed Fred Smurlis, Vincent Brown.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: It was my first taste of ever being around this stuff.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's cool, cool, take cool memory.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: That was really the only time that I was ever
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: out on the Patriots, like ninety when they went one
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: in fifteen with Rod Rust and they were just such
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: a train wreck and they would even worse off the field,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: and then McPherson came in and I was like, that's
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: not going to like, that's not the guy, Like, it's
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: not gonna work. And they were a little bit better
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: that ninety one season. I think they won like five
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: games or six games or something like that, and then
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: they bottomed out again at two and fourteen, and then
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: like that three year period was the only time I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: was ever really out on the Patriots. Then they hired
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Parcels and I was.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Back right, I'm back, baby, out right in line.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: I think there's a real case in my mind for
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Dante being in the Pro Football Hall of Fame as
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: like a contributor to the game.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: I would agree.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I think he's the best positional coach of all time.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: So like, I think there's a real case for that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Best positional coach of all time.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Of all time. I think he's the best of it
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: of all time. Is definitely I would make an argument
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: for Dante. Yeah, definitely, you know, the best offensive line
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: coach of all time. And I think that's the hardest
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: position to coach because you have the most guys to coach,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: and it's you know, five man unit that you're coaching,
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: and so you have to have everybody, uh, you know,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: working together. It's not like your coaching receivers is like
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: in an individual position, right, you know, the offensive line
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: it's the weakest link in that whole thing. Like you
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: have to be together as a group. And I think
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: he's the best it's ever done it, you know, from
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: player development to also in game you know, getting everybody,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: all five guys to execute and on the same page.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: So he's, uh, he's the best ever in my opinion.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: And Rod Rust And that was a story that I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: just rediscovered was Rod Rust was fired midway through the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: eighty four season, and then they went back and rehired
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: him as the defensive coordinator, and all the players of
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: that eighty five team love Rod Rust. I mean that
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: defense was excellent. He was an excellent defensive coordinator. But
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: all I think of him defensive genius. Yeah, they were
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: all so excited to get him back. I just think
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of him, as you said, Paul, as that coach of
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: a really failed team, and who was that guy who
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: was terrible? And then you go back and you realize, like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: this guy's like the Rex Ryan of his day.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: You know, we kind of make fun of the NFL
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a lot because it seems like they just rotate coaches through.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Once you have a job, you always have a job.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But we don't know and this gets to the you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: we only know the Patriots some of these guys that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: are cycling through are really good coaches. And that's why,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you know, it was a new coach comes in and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I want Rod Russ because as a positional coach, they
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: are really good, you know, and as fans, we just
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: don't know that, right.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, the truth of is he coordinated one of
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the best Patriots defenses of all time. So you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: it's that's something that's lost in perspective. And you just
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: remember those terrible years in the early nineties when they
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: could barely win a game.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: But hey, we're here, now we're back.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got through the last and you know, these gms,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: they know the truth. It's like, yeah, that team had
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: no talent, that's why they didn't do well.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: It wasn't Rod Rust you know what I mean.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: The GMS know the truth, or they should know that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: They bring back good ones to Josh. It's just like
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: certain guys are just better in those roles than as
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: the head coach. McDaniels is just a better offensive coordinator
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: than the head coach. And I remember when I wrote
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: about what Dante about, you know, going to the Patriots
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame, I was like, why you never wanted
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: to like go higher up the ranks, like you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: offensive coordinator or head coach or or anything like that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: And he was like, I was really really good at
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: what I did well.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Dick Lebow is the most famous one. I think he
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: could have been a head coach if he really wanted to.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: But he knew he was. He knew well he was,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: but he didn't. He didn't. It didn't work. Yeah, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: he was. He was a head coach, yeah, but he
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: was a coordinator. That was what he was.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys like that that just they
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: were better suited. Maybe they didn't have the Ernie Zampizzi
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: that the gravitas to sort of command the entirety of
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the team and didn't necessarily have that kind of a touch.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: And I think Josh is one of those guys.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I just don't think it worked because he lost both teams.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he lost.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: He lost the Broncos and he lost the Raiders. So
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: it just that's not a coincidence, right. Some guys are
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: just better suited.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And I think Dante, like he took over in a pinch,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he ever had head coach aspirational
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that's what Devin.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Just said no, no, at least that's what he told me.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: And he just said that you know, when you're you
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: want he just wanted to master the craft of where
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: he was at and he didn't want to he didn't
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: even want to be a coordinator. Yeah, it's kind of
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: like an he almost like he didn't want to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: too big for his bridges type of thing too, Like
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: he just he wanted to stay in his lane like
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: and I think that that's why, you know, talking to him,
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: like he just loved coaching under Bill, because like Belichick
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: just well it was perfect for Dante, Like he just
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: allowed Dante to be Dante and his in Dante's Inferno,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: and he didn't have like it wasn't he wasn't bothered,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: and it wasn't like you know, he wasn't asked to
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: do things that were outside of his comfort zone. And
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: he just thrived with that kind of kind of coach
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: to be able to do that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: So I mean that's you know, to he survived the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: regime change in the early nineties.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I mean Bill Parcels was like, I have a job
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: for you. This is what it is.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Take it or leave it, and Dante stuck around but
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I mean he's just, like I said, the ability to
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: bring players up along and even players you know, like
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: like Matt Lighte for you know who maybe wasn't like
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: the greatest left but played at a championship level and
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: you know, contributed to those teams.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Yep, been a good good run for Dante, all right.
• 37:59
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• 38:03
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• 38:10
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• 38:13
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• 38:16
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• 38:20
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• 38:24
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• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Paul show off. It wasn't really anything. It
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: was something Paul, come on.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Really.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: There was a number.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: No, there was a caller that that he wanted to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: test Paul's numbers dollarge and he went was twenty guys
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: ranging from the seventies to and Paul got the only one.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: I think we missed.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: There was an offensive lineman.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wallabah, I think it was sixty.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: I thought it was it was sixty four, but I
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: don't remember anyway.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I would be like, can you can you even do
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: it now? Like I feel like you're even Miles Battle?
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: No, can I do it now?
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah? That's the ironic part about it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I think if you if you grilled me on like
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: guys that played from twenty ten on, I bet you
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I would get a couple wrong.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Miles Battle, it's the other ones that are thirty.
• 39:15
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• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you know that type of stuff. All right, let's let's
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: hit up the phones. People joining us on the eve
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: of the fourth of July. Wherever you wame. Uh, Nate's
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: in Connecticut. What's up, Nate?
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: Hey you guys?
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: You we will yep.
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: Okay. So I just had a couple of thoughts.
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: On Marcella's styles. I personally think he is not going
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: to make the team this year. You know, he didn't
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: really play that much in the corner bedroom, but he
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: was on special teams a lot. But I think with
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: a lot of the people we've drafted and the udfas,
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: I think other people are going to be taking that spot,
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: and I think Marcellus Dial is gonna find his way out.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: He really hasn't done a lot. I mean, we saw
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: we saw him play and like you know, preseason, and
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: I think he looked all right, but he just didn't
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: have the strongest of his year and I don't think
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: he's gonna make it this year.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Now, why are you particularly concerned with Marcella's style?
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: I feel like we've had other people step up, like
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: I know, like Isaiah Boldens.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, But but my question like, nay, why
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: why is he on your mind? Why why Marcella's Dial
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and some other guy and not some other guy?
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: Well, we have we haven't really talked a lot about
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: Marcellus dis.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a reason.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Him and Isaiah Ball didn't feel like two guys that
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: are both trying to stick on Thanks Day, I could
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: see only one of them making it. And right now
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: I probably lean a little bit towards Bolden just because
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: he's got a little bit more versatility on defense and
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: special team.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I've seen him play more defensive snaps in my mind
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: than I have Dial, But I don't know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: They're using Dial a little bit in the slot, which
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: I could see, you know, as a bigger slot, but
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: Bolden can kind of do the same thing, and then
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Bolden can return kicks and cover kicks and special teams
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: with Dial is not going to do that. So the
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: coaches are pretty high on Dial. And it's the same
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: coaching staff on special teams with Springer coming back and
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Tom Quinn. But they are pretty high of what my
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Marcella's Dial did on special teams. But he's not a returner,
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: he's just covering kicks.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that they really.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I can totally see a scenario where Bolden and Dial
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: are in or out or one or the other. Like
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I totally see that. But like there's really been not
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: much changed of that depth. That they replaced Jonathan Jones
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: with Carlton Davis, right, So that's the starter, first starter,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you know, next to Gonzo. Marcus Jones is still there,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Alex Austin is still there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: After those four, those four.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You can you can definitely sell me on any of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: those other guys.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: But like they didn't.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I mean Kobe Myer, I guess, Miles Battle, DJ James.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Brandon Crossley showing off his big brain. Now, I mean
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: it's like those guys the UDFA is like that, that's
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: the list.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, then those guys are third day three flyers.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And I didn't see any of those guys in the spring, like,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: oh wow, look at him.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: You know DJ James, Did I get that right?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: J James is out there with with Gonzo. I didn't
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: see any of the like I saw that with with
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you know, once upon a time with Malcolm Butler. All
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, some random U d f A is
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: out there with the regular players, and you're like, oh,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: we got to keep an eye on this, right, I mean,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: it's it. I didn't see that really in the supre.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: My days of getting excited over you the fas and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: seventh round picks are over.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I used to get excited about them. But now it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: like now if they have come a long way. Now,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: if they if they happen, they have happened right right,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: And that's what you would hope after Alex Austin that,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: you know, and Alex Austin was kind of one of
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: those guys a couple of years ago. I mean, I
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: think it traded for him at some point, But you.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Just hope maybe one of those guys emerges and is
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: able to I mean, Isaiah Bolden's got some good size dials, fast,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Kobie miners fast, They're all fast. But I don't know
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: those are bottom of the depth chart kind of battles
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: that guys are gonna win on Teams Special, you know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And if one of those guys happens to emerge and
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: suddenly is getting reps with Gonzo, that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Feels pretty secure. The other spots are going to be
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: determined by who can cover kicks, like and I don't
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: really feel like they need to keep six of these guys, Like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think that room is particularly deep in that regard.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: I just think it's so top heavy that you know
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: that Gonzales and Davis are to be playing a ridiculous
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: amount of snaps for you next year, so behind you
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: is really special teams.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: It's just it might be a problem, you know, like
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: like a Gonzo gets hurt or Carlton Davis gets hurts,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: like one you might have to rely on one of
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: these guys that right now.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: I have some faith in alex Osino.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: There's four and you need three at least full time,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: so you have a little bit of protection there, but
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: it goes downhill pretty quick.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Matt's in New Hampshire.
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: Hey Matt, Hey, you guys hear me? Okay, yes, perfect,
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: I've st a question. We've talked about this at nauseum before.
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: Before I get to it, I just want to congratulate
• 44:37
  Speaker 12: you Evan on getting married.
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: Thank you of course.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: Just uh, just with the guard the left guard position.
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: Like I said, it's been talked about so much, like
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: if you guys have this pick right now, who's your
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: day one starter there? I know the options aren't great
• 44:53
  Speaker 14: if I had to pick, and it's probably the Cold
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: Strange at this point. Or is there a betteran out
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: there at free agent that you guys think.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know about a free agent. That's tough to say.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: I probably with you on Cold Strange. That feels strong.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I would probably lean Strange as well.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: But I want to see when they start training camp
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: what Jared Wilson's doing.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm holding out hope that either Jared
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Wilson or Kaden Wallace, one of those two guys, whether
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: it's Wilson at center or guard, it takes over and
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: kind of improves that interior. Just with younger players that
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: you're a little bit more. I don't know if it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: just the unknown of what they really are versus Cole
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Strange what I kind of just feel like we know
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: that Cole Strange is just is who he is. Whereas
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: those other guys, I think there's maybe still some development
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: to do and still some upside that exists with them,
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: especially Jared Wilson. Brandon Shurff's a free agent, which is interesting,
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: but career right guard, not not a left guard. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: if he was kicking around and we're two weeks into
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: training camp and they look at it and they're like
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: each like, this is gonna this isn't going well. You
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: know this, this left guard by committee is not working out.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: I would could see Brendon Sheriff coming in and still
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: being the respectable starter, but you'd have to be a
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: want to play and be want to play at left guard.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Still available now and he must be done like dinner.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I would say, good, that's a good player to be available.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it could also have to do you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: a lot of those types of veterans don't really want
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: to do training camp, so like they tend to sign
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: like two weeks into camp and like kind of skip
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: the dog days of training camp in the beginning and
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: then get into it once the preseason game start. You
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: see that, Like if you if you see Brendon Sheriff
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: sign like right around where Zeke Elliott signed with the
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: Patriots a couple of years ago, like that would be
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: sort of the sweet spot for somebody like that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Matt, appreciate the call.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: In my mind, I just got validated done.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Like dinnerd.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Deshaun's in North Dakota. We don't get a lot of
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: callers from North Dakota.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: North.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: What's up to.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: Sean No, No, no, Virginia, I think.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, uh, what's.
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: Up guys, Jeremy.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, happy for the.
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: Yes uh based I want to touch based on what
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: you guys gonna saying before about the Tom Brady things,
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: and I think it was interesting because it's some of
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: the things they've been saying for the longest time. The
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: reason why I always thought that Brady fits uh bra
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: bradyserveralized their credits because we would have to take into
• 47:30
  Speaker 13: account is that you can't expect this team to have that,
• 47:34
  Speaker 13: you know that what or machine like it did back
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: in the day because the centerpiece is Tom Brady. Darn
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: Brady's made the best of the situation, situation, no matter
• 47:44
  Speaker 13: who was around him, you know.
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: And then most people seen once he ever got a
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: four like Brandy Moss, he took off. And I've been
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: saying that that, please give him a real weapon, get
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: him a real weapon. There's something that other quarterbacks disposed,
• 47:57
  Speaker 13: he has faced over the years that building the benefit
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: from and now you're complisces nowhere near as much together
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: accomplished despite him dealing with the left. So when you
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: talking about organizations and you know in situations like the
• 48:11
  Speaker 13: forty nine ers and Sin Study Bengals or whatever, uh, yes,
• 48:14
  Speaker 13: a lot of it have to do a lot of
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: their personnel or whatever. But the reason why as far
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: with the port now can't maximize it because they don't
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: have number twelve turns water. He throws water into wine. Yeah,
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: that reason why we felt like we should not take
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: this for granted because it's something we're never going to
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: see again. Deb I always thinking that, So it should
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: be very important for them to get weapons for Drake
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: Maine yes, because he's not gonna be to do what
• 48:40
  Speaker 13: Tom is done. Yep, that's all I wanted to say.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: I agreed to Sean.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta get them weapons, you need, you
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: need to build around them. And I think I think
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: next year, unfortunately, you know, I think this year all
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the big names are out, but I think next year
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: that will be the focus, regardless of what happens this year,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: that we've got to get some off the weapons on
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: this team. But I think, you know, I think I
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: like the addition of Henderson as running back. I know
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: he's a running back, but I think he I'm hoping
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: he will be a weapon.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: For this team. Me too. There's a lot who's a weapon.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: Henderson he should be. I hope he will be.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Were you doing the weapon debate again?
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: No, No, I think if if if he turns out,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: that's a weapon. If he if he pans out, I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: would say that he qualifies as a weapon.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: He's a big play candidate. Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: I don't necessarily disagree with to caller, but like, it's
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: just kind of disrespectful to just be like everybody that
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: played with Brady was just because of Brady, like or
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: everybody that coached on with Brady. Was here was just
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: because of Brady? Like, well, no, but I think I mean,
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: Rob Gronkowski is a pretty good player.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: The other way they had to get they had to
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: go out and get the.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Weapons to get Brady to go to he had already
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: won three titles. I think it's disrespectful to Brady.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not him to another level, it's the offense
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: to another level.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: I think he like Brady's Brady, we all have all
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: the respect in the world for him, But like he
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: played with some really good players too, And let's not
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: just like sit here and be like, okay, all the okay,
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: every all those players stunk, Like stunk.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Is strong, but like you play with a lot of
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: average guys. Did he make Welker better?
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I think we better than.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: He would have been on any other team. Yep.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know about any other team, but.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I mean I think you could make an argument for
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: you know, like Gronk would have been great no matter what,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Like that's a special player.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, obviously Moss, but.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys that were good players that
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: he made look better than good.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: I think so maybe at the receiver position, but like
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: some of those like they had great offensive line.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: That's where his influences.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I want you want to go back
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: to Dante, and the most most impressive thing to me
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: about Dante is a litany of Greg Robinson, Randall, Brandon Goren,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Tom Ashworth, Nick Kasher like didn't matter. Yeah, Now, part
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: of why it didn't matter was Brady. Yeah, I do
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: give Brady a lot. Evan's probably right, maybe I give
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: too much, But I think if Brady and Dante were,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you know, in their prime for last year's team, you
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be talking about that offensive line the way you did.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: That's how good they were. That's right. I don't know.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to like say, like do like a
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: a pie here of like who gets all the credit?
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Brady not that good.
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: I'm just kind of giving everybody credit. So yeah, right,
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: I'm just kind of giving everybody credit. Like I think,
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: like both things can be true, right, Like there were
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: like like a lot of these guys were great. We're
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: really good players too. Like when you know, when I
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: started covering the team, especially you know, their offensive line,
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: like Tony Andrews and Mason in the interior, their offensive
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: line was one of the best interior three in football,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: like regardless of Dante or not Dante like that, and
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: Tony is Is might be a Hall of Famer in
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: his own right, you know, Logan mankins Is.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: The question is how many of those guys and there
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: are some how many of those guys could make a
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback better, because we're talking about a quarterback making those
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: guys better. How many of those guys make their quarterback well?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: But like yeah, I mean, like the quarterbacks the most
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: important position on the field, so like he's the most
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: valuable guy, like they that's true for pretty much any position.
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: But like I just I don't know, Like I look
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: at it and say, you know, there were some really
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: good players on those Like twenty ten's Patriots offense.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I think I don't think you do what they did
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: without some good players on your team.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I just feel like you made them better.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Now, Tony, Tony and Mason are two guys that were
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: really really good players. I think there's a lot more
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Joe and Drewsys and Sally say Is than those guys.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: I mean that they're starting inter Dan Conley, Russ Hokestein,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: like Rich Ornberger.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Those are average two thousands, guys like from the like
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: Tuny and was like two ten, two thousand, But Mason
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: and drafted Mason and were really good fifteen and they
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: were they were the starters at their positions for the
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: rest of them run.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: So maybe when he got a little older, he needed
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: a little bit more talent in front of him because
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: he couldn't do it all well. But that's not what
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I just but that's twenty years of dominance.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: And then they got two really good guards. Clearly, I
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: mean like there was a lot of floats of in jetsam,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: flats and flats.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: We can just have the worst offensive line in football
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: and watch the quarterback running for his with Brady, he
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: could fine.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Remember we got into the big argument about what flotsam
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and jetsam is.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, Eric, Eric used to admit that he was wrong
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: tossing stuff out of a plane, that's jetsam.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: I'm sure Brady would have loved to play behind that
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: offensive line last year. That would have he really would
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: have been.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: I'm just telling you it wouldn't have been a train wreck.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: I think it was if Brady was in his prime, not.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Forty five year old Brady in Tampa where he was
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: taking dives everywhere. He wouldn't have been happy like thirty
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: five year old Brady would have been, would have been
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: like mahomes As, it would have been get by.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Well, we have to say that I get Evan's general
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: point that it's all Brady.
• 54:05
  Speaker 15: It was all Brady, and that he made everybody better
• 54:11
  Speaker 15: and he turned water into wine and all like all
• 54:14
  Speaker 15: these freaking things, But like, can we just not like
• 54:17
  Speaker 15: sit here and and and completely just.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: Throw away everybody and just being product told you Rob Drunkowski,
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Randy Moss.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: I think Paul's being starcastic.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: Like Brandon Cook's played with seventeen quarterbacks and he's good
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: with all of them.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Cooks was a higher caliber receiver than most of the
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: guys he played with.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: I think he can do both things.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: You can celebrate the greatness and brilliance of Tom Brady
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: and say, yeah, there were some good players on these teams.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: Both can be true good players.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: There were times he made look better than that, yeah maybe,
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: and there was absolute like I always go back to
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: the game winning drive against New Orleans in twenty thirteen.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: He's throwing to Austin Colley and Kemberl Tompkins and you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: the guy from Foxborough High and he marches right down
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: the field and wins the game like that. That is
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: water into wine, right, Like, that's what we're talking about.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: But when he's out there in you know, sixteen seventeen
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: and he's he's got Gronk and he's got Edelman, and
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: he's got you know, a really good players around him,
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: good running backs, you know, James White, players like that, Like, okay,
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: then all of them stunk like I like, I guess
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: all of them stunk like I don't know.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I told you he keep saying Gronk, and I keep
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: telling you that Gronk would have been a Hall of
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Fame caliber player regardless.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: It's just like, all right, but I don't think.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Dean Branch was a Hall of Fame caliber player.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: Good receiver.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: He made him look better than he was. Troy Brown,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: love you mean it made him look better than he was. Now,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Drew also made Troy Brown look better than he was,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: but not like, not like Brady.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: So he did it with Troy Brown. He became with Drew,
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: and he did it with Brady. But somehow both of
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: them made them.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Look he didn't Troy Brown didn't do what he did
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: with Brady That No, he didn't have the numbers.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: He became a hundred catch guy with with David Patton,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: David Gibbons on Branch like these guys you know called
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: well Jabbard, Gaffney, these guys were not great players. He
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: made them look a lot better. These are the guys
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: that were catching Brandon LaFell. He absolutely he's catching like game.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that they're also, that doesn't mean that
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: they're all scrubs. I didn't say there was scrubs. I
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: said he they were good players that he made look better.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I just want That's what I said, not.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: Have everybody some love but Brady.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: And that's like how many teams go twenty years and
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: they just have Hall of famers up and down the line.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Like like, well, Peyton Manning made Austin Caley the guy
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: you just dismissed. That's that's what Peyton Manning did. Yes,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: he had he had Harrison and Wayne and a lot
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: of other cracks.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: About Clark, stiff, Drin James.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Edrin James was stick Dallas Clark Like that's another example
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: of the quarterback. And by the way, the quarter and
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: he's got to marry time and he did the same
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: thing with Welker. What do you mean, come on, don't
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: be good player? Not not Marvin Harrison, not not like Harrison,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Pierre Garson.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: If you're going to sit here and say that that
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: and Marius Thomas like it would have been one of
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: Brady's best receivers. Like, if you're going to like go there.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: So then when we're talking to him making my point, no,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: I just when you go to Peyton like it, just
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: that that's a whole separate because.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: We can't look at these things and for a lens
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: of something that might give somebody else credit.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: When it just comes to football, IQ. Peyton had every
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: much of it that Brady had.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: Payton was great, but he was great.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: He wasn't as good as Brady, not quite.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: No, he had a lot more, but he made guys
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: look better. He had such command of that offense.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: He never had the ability to punt the ball in
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: the heyday of the Colts Patriots rivalry because if he
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: punted once the game was over because the Patriots weren't
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: gonna gonna not score, not against that defense.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: But everybody sucked besides Brady.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, I didn't say anything about the defensive players sucking.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Seymour was in the Hall of Fame. Will Fork could
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: be someday, Harrison could be something.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: The coach one good defense. They have two good defensive
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: players who if they were.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: To have played like three play three games a year.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Sanders, right, you're right. If he if he got hurt,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: then they had trouble.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: And mathis yeah, good players. FREDI was good.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: They were a good player. Matthis was good too.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Phil's in Utah. What's up Phil?
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys, long time listener, Pyre listening for twenty years.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: How you doing good?
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Good? Thanks for listening. Good for twenty years?
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I love the show. Hey, got a question
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: trivia question for you. And then I wanted to share
• 58:53
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• 58:58
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• 58:59
  Speaker 9: Game which the game out here close to me?
• 59:03
  Speaker 14: Once?
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: Did you to figure out which game it was? Before
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: the game, they handed mister Kraft a letter that he
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: read that was saying that Teddy Brusk was coming back
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: to play after his strokes. Okay, and Patriot said up
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: losing that game twenty eight to twenty. Paul quarterback was
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: the Snake. You know the opponent what.
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: Two and five they lost at Denver to the Broncos.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Correct, Okay, I only got it, which was Snake, Yeah,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Jake Plumber. And then I remember they lost twenty eight
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: to twenty and that was again they were getting killed
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: and they came back. And Andy asked Belichick after the
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: game if he ever thought they were back in the game.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about the one score game.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Like he got really mad, and then like two weeks
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: later he goes, well, we really weren't even competitive in
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: that game. And Andy was so mad because Andy asked
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: him basically what. Three weeks later, Belichick came around to saying, like,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: you know, we were kind of hanging on in that game, right, Okay?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: So yeah, the oh here it comes the Shanahan stall
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: at the Pacers for making their comeback. It's pretty funny.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: So before the game, mister Kraft is over on the sideline.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: A bunch of fans were there and he's autographing stuff
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: and they're hanging tee shirts down over the wall and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: he's signing everything. Well, he's not really paying attention, so
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: he signed the stadium. So the bumper that's the past
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: around the stadium. Oh yeah, Pop on the side of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: the statement, I said, you guys, I sent you guys
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: a picture was pretty funny.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm wonderful it's probably not there anymore. They've probably
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: switched that out by now, right, it's like twenty years.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: I would hope.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, would that'd be funny, Like they're switching it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: out and the guy's like.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Hey, okay, yeah.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: Who back bob?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: So rule rule question for you, rule proposal. You know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 9: there's lots to talk about overtime rules and you know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: two possessions and whatever, and the discussion is always, you know,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: no one they don't know if they're going to get
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 9: the ball back in overtime. So what if they did
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: away with the coin toss for overtime and they just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: said coin toss at the beginning of the game and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: we alternate possessions to the half and then for overtime,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: so you play the fourth board or knowing who gets
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 9: the ball first and overtime, and then you play your
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: sudden death sudden victory in overtime.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: And I'll think about you.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: I don't like it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my problem with the sudden death and overtime has
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: nothing really to do with the coin toss. It's more
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: the team that gets the ball first has a chance
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: to end the game, Like I think both teams should
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: have a chance.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: But does it affect at all how the game might end? Like,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: that's what I was thinking about.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Would it impact your knowing like, well, we've got the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: ball if we gets overtime right.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Affects your strategy or we know we.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Definitely would affect your strategy, But that doesn't mean it's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: better or worse. It does affect the strategy towards the
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: end of the game.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: If you know, if it's.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: A tie game and you know you're getting the ball
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: and overtime, you're just gonna sit on it because you.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't do that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: You're going to like it tethers the the coin toss
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: to the game where it feels like overtime now with
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: a separate coin toss is kind of its own separate element.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: So now you're going you're keeping overtime tied to.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I think it might be the only strategy I could
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: see in Mike's theory which I think could could come
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: into play thinking about it, is going for two, like
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: if you had the ball at the end. Let's let's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: say that the Titans game last year that the Patriots
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: know the Titans getting are getting the ball to start overtime, Well,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm more apt to.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Go for it.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe, Yeah, probably affects the odds. I mean, don't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: you know how they have that like like real time
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: odds of your chance of winning the game. So in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: that regard, it might look at that opportunity as you
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: you have to kind of go for two right now,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: because if you don't, there's a high probability they're going
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: to get the they're going to get the first session
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: and probably scoring in the game based on you know.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: So, I don't know.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: It's interesting though, It's I don't like, I don't hate
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: the idea of, like I said, tethering it to the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: game itself and still having it part of the game flow,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: whereas now is overtime is you're just kind of starting
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: over again, like it's a new game basically.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: So would you do the Bill thing of like just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: play it out as a quarter because that's what Bill,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: That's what I would do. Bo always vouched for it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: to just be it's just quarter five like it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Whoever possessed it like continue it ends in a tie
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: after the fifth quarter, it's a tie.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't do that in the playoffs, No,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: you keep.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: Playing hockey style.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting idea. I love when people come up with
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: this kind of STI like those ideas.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: That's I would not be in favor of that particular one,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: but I do like those kinds of.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: Game theories where how does it affect how the game went?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Unfold it?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Because I do feel like there would be in certain
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: circumstances at the end of the fourth quarter might change
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: an approach.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, uh uh so how about how about.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: If you were down three?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: If you were down three and let's say, you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: third and goal from the four yard line, incomplete pass,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: fourth and goal, two seconds left, kick the field goal
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: to tie it, know when the other team has the ball,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: or do you now go for it and say I'm
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: going to take a shot to win. So I do
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: think there are very specific circumstances that that might change
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: the mentality of, you know, the decision making.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: Kendall's in North Carolina. Hate Kendall Kendall.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 14: Hey, Hey, hey, how you doing good?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: Good? I got a Christian I was listening to great
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: podcast last night that Ullu.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Was just giving your don't do that.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: I was listening to Great said that mac Hollands was
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: a for sure lot. He said, Popud's a lot. I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: don't understand that, like what mc holland was doing, that
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: he's a lot to.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Big think he got signed as a free agent.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just feel like they have and I don't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: necessarily agree with that the pop element to that.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: He said, he said Mac was a sure lot. There's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: no way to get pot and he said that Pop
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: isn't a lot to make the team.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: Well I could. I kind of understand his thinking a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: little bit, just like Mac Collins to me is just
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: like they have a they have a role in mind
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: for Mac Collins, Like I understand that he's not Randy Moss,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: but like they have a vision of like the leadership
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: and the four down ability and like what he's going
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: to bring to the whole thing.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Can we like agree, you know, right, wrong or indifferent
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: than Mac Collins has had a better NFL career than
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Pop Douglas Bong NFL per Ye, he's proven something tomorrow.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Thanks Kendall. I don't know what you're doing over there.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: I think what Greg's point was if I remember correct,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: because I actually saw something about it yesterday, was like
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: that Douglas could be a trade candidate, out of which
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think he was thinking that Douglas isn't going
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: to make the roster. It would be either trade or
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: make the roster. Not there's no cut in that cat
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: in that element there. But like with mac Collins said,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: I feel like we get a lot of calls about
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: MATC Collins.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: And didn't do anything all because he was hurt and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: he rehabbed, and everybody just says he's not going to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: make the team.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: They're just like he has familiar to he played with
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: McDaniels in Vegas. Like there's just they have.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: They signed him for a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: And I don't think Pop is a I love Pop,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he's a lock.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: Well, I think he's either a trade or or on
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: the team. I don't think he's your cutting them.
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  Speaker 18: Don't have a whole lot of rules, okay, but I'm
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  Speaker 18: going to give you the rules that I have, Okay,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 18: that I would ask.
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  Speaker 1: Us to try to abide by. One is to respected team.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 18: Okay, respect the football team and the people that are here.
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  Speaker 1: We're building our program. When we talk about you know
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: when I.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 18: Got here, okay, and what my goal was, it was
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 18: to build a program that you guys and the coaches
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 18: and the staff wanted to be a part of, that
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 18: they wanted to protect, and that you were proud of it.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 18: I'm proud of the way we prepare, I'm proud of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 18: the way we practice, okay, And I'm proud of my
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 18: teammates for the effort in which they play. The overriding
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 18: goals for that program that we're going to build is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 18: going to be one to win the division.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 18: When was the last time the New England Patriots won
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 18: the division?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Does anybody know? Twenty nineteen.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 18: So we're building our own identity, okay, and it's all
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 18: going to be based on how do we make you, guys, Okay,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 18: as good as you possibly can be as an individual,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 18: as a player, and then as a teammate. The training staff,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 18: the equipment staff, the kitchen staff, these people.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: All here to help you.
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  Speaker 18: Okay, We're going to treat those people with the utmost respect.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 18: That's important to our owner, that's important to me, that's
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  Speaker 18: important to everybody here, is how you treat people.
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  Speaker 1: In this building.
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  Speaker 18: Somebody asked me, are you worried about went wrong last year?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 18: Why the would I care about what happened last year.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 18: I'm worried about what's gonna go right today and tomorrow
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 18: and the next day. We're not worried about what went wrong.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 18: We're focused on what's gonna go right. And I want
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  Speaker 18: you to understand that.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 18: The foundation is gonna be built on things like trust.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 18: Do we trust you to do your job and to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 18: do what's right for the team on and off the field.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 18: Do you trust what the coaches are telling you so
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 18: that it makes you better When we talk about building
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 18: a program, Okay, the foundation is gonna be built on
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 18: things like honesty. The program is gonna be built on honesty. Okay,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 18: we always talk about the truth. You want to tell
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 18: the truth, you want to seek the truth, and you
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 18: want to.
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  Speaker 1: Handle the truth. It's gonna be built on accountability.
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  Speaker 18: When I was in the fifth grade, I had this
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  Speaker 18: hard ass math teacher and he used to come up
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  Speaker 18: and grab us by the back of the neck because
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  Speaker 18: we were messing around just like you guys did his school.
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  Speaker 1: And every time he'd screw up, he'd made you.
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  Speaker 18: Right accountability and then it had to spell it right,
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  Speaker 18: and then it was the definition I will take responsibility
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  Speaker 18: for my own actions.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you anything.
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  Speaker 18: Else he taught me about math, but I could tell
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  Speaker 18: you that accountability is I will take responsibility for my
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  Speaker 18: own actions. And I thank him because I had to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 18: write it. He'd be like five hundred thousand. So then
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 18: we just would spend classes getting ahead. And when he
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 18: told his five hundred, we already had him written out.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: We were ready to go.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 18: But I know the definition of accountability.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: It's going to be built on respect.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: You could see if my batman go back. Let's get
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: a yall boys.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: The respect that we have for each other to do
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: their job.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 18: What everybody's role here is, and we come to work
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 18: that we communicate. If it's important to you, it will
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 18: be important to us.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I want you to understand that it will be important.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 18: To us, and ultimately it's going to be built on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 18: a connection. It's important to me that we get to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 18: know you guys. It's important to me that you guys
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 18: get to know each other because in the end, when
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 18: goes bad, like it does every season, at some point
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 18: in time, in every locker room throughout the National Football League,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 18: some is gonna happen. How do we respond there?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 18: How do we help a teammate that's going through something.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 18: There's gonna be an energy. We're not gonna walk around on.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: A practice field. We're a long way off from.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 18: There, okay, but there's gonna be an energy around this building.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: What you can expect. We're gonna coachaty eight.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 19: On the ball, on the balls in a row, good communication,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 19: know what to do, nowhere to go.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: And then on Sunday we're gonna let you play.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 18: Kayden, have you been lifting this offseason?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: If you done any lyft?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 18: Okay, good, Well, let me come up here and I'm
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 18: going to see how much you've been lifting. Okay, let's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 18: count off eight steps, Okay, one.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Two, three, four, five, six.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 18: Seven, eight. Okay, good, let's turn around. Let's get back
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 18: to the middle. Let's get four ready, one, two three?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 18: Would you guys all assume this is in the middle. Okay, good,
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  Speaker 18: I get you a little base here. Get your hands up,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 18: open your hands up, okay, get hold on ready?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good, you've been lifting everybody? Give him around on
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the pause, sit out.
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  Speaker 18: So what did you just notice right there? And the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 18: two things we did anybody notice anything, Tony? Did you
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 18: notice anything? How easily I got him to move across
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 18: this hallway? And then when I started pushing against them
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 18: what happened? Yeah, we are going to be along on
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 18: this journey with you, guys.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: You understand that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 18: And I don't care whatever's happened or how you've been coached.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 18: This is how I want to do it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Being along for the journey. Yeah.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 18: I was kind of guiding him along there, pushing him
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 18: a little bit, right, but I was next to him.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 18: There's a difference between being next to somebody and pushing
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 18: them then sitting across from him and having some conflict.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 18: So that's our whole goal of how we're going to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 18: operate this program, is that We're going to be along
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 18: on the journey. There's gonna be some ups and downs,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 18: but that's the whole goal of what we're.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Trying to do, is to go along on this journey.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 18: With you guys, to get you more out of here
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 18: than what you guys think.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: The way they practice a lot of efforts to finish.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Great teams go out to practice at different piece.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 18: That's just what we're gonna do because that's the only
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 18: way that our identity.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Can take over.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: This is professional football. This is your job. You're not
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: on scholarship. You don't get a rigs.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: Your year better be all right.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: You're not tough.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: You have our complaining this way, men, you can't continue statement.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: You get like two steps decided to get out good.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: That kind of drill should be tear then God go
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: work like the dep go rep get off.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: We can remember it, but we can also work together.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 18: All right, big weekend, my son turns twenty one. We're
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 18: in this business to win and to help players improve.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I think that they embraced the change.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 20: I would have fit with two hunts.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm blessed to do this, so I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: wake up with that grind every day.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: You tought them.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: That's only that's something that you can write.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in history.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: There is no one way but to win for twenty years,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: you better have a tight ship. You have to have
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: a tight ship. You can't run it loosey goosey. And
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the way arians does it would
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: work for twenty years.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know that either
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: don't have a tight But I know a lot of
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: other teams that have a looser ship that have won
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: for twenty years.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: They just haven't won six titles because they haven't had Brady.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, who like Pittsburgh. I don't think Baltimore tight ship.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: I think that that's a real think.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 17: That he kept Brown.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they video the postgame talk after a playoffs, he
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: did it, but that's it's not a TA one.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Guy and and to me and you know it, and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: you agree, Paul, after we learned what a guy Antonio
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Brown was, I have a life more respect for Mike.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: That's absolutely true, right, I think because because he put
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: up with a lot.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Of crowns and he kept it, he kept it going.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Somehow, I think that organization this isn't steel his daily.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: But I think that organization is a tight ship. I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: think from the top down the Rooneyes, I think there's one.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: But it's not like this is my point.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Well, but I think that they are a well run organization.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: I agree. I think Baltimore is too. Yeah, I would.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: I think Baltimore is a well run organization. Everybody thinks
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: the coach is a weenie, so like, I don't know, what.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: Are you gonna do?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Harba.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Everybody hates him.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: He's a whiner, he's always complaining about.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: That's another great moment from.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: All right back are and Patriots filtered.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Fred the Steelers ship too Brown video in the post game.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: The tight the fact that tomlin Cape kept that together
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: with Antonio Brown.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: Right with everybody going doing whatever they wanted to do.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: The fact that Tom win went together and kept winning.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, we had guys like that too when Belichick figured
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Well, that's what the whole thing. The premise was.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: They haven't won six titles, but they've won for twenty years. Yeah,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: they've been good for twenty Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: But when you win those titles, the entitlement start syncing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: in and it's hard to keep it together.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: It really is.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I tie that to what you guys said
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: about some guys being great coordinators and don't want to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: have to deal with keeping the ship in order as
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: you have to do with a head coach, all the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: things Bill Belichick used to say about, you know the other.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: Things you have to do as a head coach.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: I can see why guys would find it appealing to
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: be like, I have my position group, I know what
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: I'm doing, I have a select group of guys, don't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: have to worry about all this other big picture stuff
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: that the head coach has to handle.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: It.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: It's hard to think those I think in that respect,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: I think Belichick is underrated when it comes to being
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: the CEO of a team, you.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: Know, program builder.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think running the ship, running the whole thing,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: I think he's underrated.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: I think I think it was.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: That's the genius he had was keeping this thing together
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: for twenty years. It's that's as much of an accomplishment
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: as what he did winning, but keeping it together and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: winning like that.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: Best coach in football for twenty years and more than
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: a coach.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how you can say anything that
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: he did was underrated. I think he's widely considered.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: People say, people say he was a great coach, but
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: not a great cham People say that all the time.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: But that's two different things. I would agree with that.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: But to me, a general manager is the guy that runs.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: I think he was underrated as a general manager. I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: think I think he was bad at it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think I include. I think you're focusing
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: on just personnel decisions.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: To me, a general manager in the true sense is
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: someone who runs the team, who's in charge of the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: whole operation. And in that way, well then who is
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: that person.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: The head coach kind of runs like the operation. And
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I think Belichick is not on every team, tremendous not
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: on every team, and every team is different.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I think in Art in the Patriots during the dynasty,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: he was both. He was the guy that ran the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: whole organization and he was the head coach. And I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: think in the running of the organization part, I think
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: he was underrated.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: So ta Costa in Baltimore. Now, does he run the Ravens?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: No, No, John Harbord does, Okay, Okay, he doesn't. Scouting, yeah,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: oh yeah.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: He's the general manager, does all the player personnelity does,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Like Harvard doesn't that personnel control DA Costa does. I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say that Costa runs the Ravens. I would say
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Harbord does. He's the CEO of the Baltimore Ravens. I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: think Bill was outstanding at that. I totally agree with
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: Fred on this. He wasn't just a coach. He ran
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: every every day.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: There was no confusion.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Bill is the messager messenger and he's the one who's
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: delivering it every day, no ambiguity.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: Everybody knew what.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: They had to do because Bill made sure everybody knew
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: what they had to do. Yeah, he ran the team.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: They haven't played any games. But don't you feel the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: same way about Rabel? Like the second that he has
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: gotten here in every exposure we've had to him.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: It's SAE, there's Elliott or Ryan Cowden. One of those
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: guys is the GM, even though they don't have the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: title of GM head scout.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: Mike Rabel runs the Patriots.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: It's incredible like that some of the stuff that he's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: taught to us about, you know, just all the things
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: that he thinks about, Like, I don't know how much
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: of it necessarily contributes to winning. It doesn't. But like
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: all the elements, like we talked about him on this
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: show about like social media, right, and players with social
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: media and like all these other different things, is that
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: you are in his purview.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: There's so many things that can go wrong, so many
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: things that can go wrong, especially and you believe it
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: or not. More so when you start winning, and like
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: the entitlement starts seeping in. You know, the guys want theirs,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: they want their contract. There's so much that goes into
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: it that that's why you don't see it a lot
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: where you know, what the Patriots did, uh, because it's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: hard to keep it together.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Really hard, and I think there was really really good
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: stay the same every day that I mean Billy every
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: way to play win or lose.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: I mean that was impressive.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: I mean I kind of give Mike Greese a little credit,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Like like Mike Greece is the same every day, whether
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: the team wins four games where they were in the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, he gets always but he pursues this with
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: the same kind of you know, the same thing as Bill.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: I would compare it to the same passion for the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: game and the team that that you know, no matter
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: what the results are, keep going but I don't want
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: to oversimplify it. But between the Bruins tip lately with
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: their draft, between looking at the eighties and the Patriots
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: drafts at that time, is it just is it an
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: over gross, over oversimplification to just saying professional sports, if
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: you don't hit on a superstar every handful of years,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: you're not going to be relevant. Like the only way
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: to stay good is your our organization has to hit
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: on superstars, preferably in the draft. That probably there's an
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: argument you made free agency that you can do it,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: maybe not sustainably quite as long, but like that's everything
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: You look at the Bruins like they're in a transition
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: period now they have no star players.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: You have the Patriots the last couple of years they
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: had no star players. You look at those drafts that
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: led up to it three four years ago, and you see,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: this is a total whiff.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: This is a total whiff. Felt the same way about.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Looking at the eighties Patriots where eighty one, eighty two,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: eighty three good drafts Andre Tippett started to miss out,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: then eighty four, eighty five, eighty six bad drafts catch
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: up with them four or five years down, Like I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's over simplifying, but Trevor not a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: big Trevor, but that's how it was.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: You look at Wow.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, you get Ronnie Lapett and like the
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: sixth round or whatever, and this guy goes on and
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: is a starter, and no one probably remembers how good
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: or bad he was, but he was a solid player
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: that you know, led this team to a lot of wins.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: And you know, if you don't find those players, you're
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: you're just your s's argument too. Man, I forget the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: individual year.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: If it was eighty two, eighty four, or you know,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: somewhere in that eighties, might be the best draft in
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: the Patriots history. Yeah, like it's in a small handful
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: of consideration.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty ten, Yeah, yeah, that's and like Bill Bill
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: hit some of those players along the way. And then
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: you know the late two thousands when they hit that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: lull and O nine and it looked like things might
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: be going sideways right now, Like that didn't that team
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: that lost to the Ravens, you guys know what, they
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: got blown off the field like it looked like it
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: was over. Then you get Gronkowski, and you get Hernandez
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: and you get Devin mccordy, and you get Dante Hid.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, they hit on some stars. Those
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: players didn't exist.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: You know, like that's how it catches up with you.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna lie to you, like you look
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: at some of the last couple drafts. We need to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: see a lot more out of these.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Guys if they're going to get out of this this circle,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: no matter how good, Drake may or Mike.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Ribbles starting with Drake May, Tyler wo Ludlaw little, would
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: you rather non football looks like one? All your closest
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: friends are eighteen years old or eighty eighty?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: Right now, come on, eighteen year.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: Old, all your closest friends are eighteen or eighty.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: It's a great it's a great quest, great question.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: Are going to go eighteen?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: Might go?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: Could you relate more to the young kid?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: Definitely not. I'm a child. Do you understand what eighteen
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: year olds are like?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: That's what I would not.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Rather go golfing with my sons than you know, part
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: cheesy with the try to find out what I can
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: do with an eighty year old.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: I feel like your your son's from what you tell.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Us is but your that's not fair part not your son.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: My son's age. One's eighteen, one's twenty. Okay, so you're
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: saying someone like your sons. Yeah, if I mean, I'm
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: assuming these are my friends. Yeah, your closest friends.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: I can't go golfing with an eighty year old.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: Well, but some of them can take the car. Take
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: the car?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Sure, nobody.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Who would you relate better to? Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: Would I relate better to probably the eighty year old.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's the it's a good question.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: That's why I said that. It's but I would pick eighteen.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 6: When you walk through like like areas of Boston, like
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: the popular areas of Boston. Now I see poor you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: Faniel Hall, things like that, Like these kids are out
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: there with their ring lights and their cell phones just
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: taking TikTok videos and Instagram selfies and like like that's
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: what the eighteen year olds are doing, and that's what
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: you want to do in your free time. No, I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: don't like things dance. The eighty year olds are sitting
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: around watching Mattlock.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: I don't want to do that either. I know, it's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: it's a good question. Much.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: I'd much rather watch Mattlock than watch you know, good
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: seventeen poses like oh, we're going to the beach today.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: So that's that's one element of what eighteen year olds do.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Like if they're my friends, they're probably not doing that, right,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: So again, like my kids don't do that now. They
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: do a lot of other things that are annoying me, of course,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: But like I said, I can go golfing with my boys.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: I could go fishing with my boys. I can't do
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: these things with eighty year olds.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: That's true. You can go fish fish.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, no more things that I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: could figure out how to.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting that Tyler uses eighteen instead of twenty one.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: So with twenty one you could at least go and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: have a drink. Right, that's different so that but I'm
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: kind of with Paul. At least you can do stuff
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: with the eighteen year old with somebody's eighty like any
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: day now.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: And pretty much strictly resigned to sitting around right and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: playing chess. Maybe yeah, you know.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: I just be asking to read our books. My dad's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: my dad's, you know, in his eighties. I love spending
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: time with my dad, but like once I spent like,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: what else am I doing other than just sitting around
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: talking to my dad?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: My dad's like my favorite person on the planet, But like,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: what else am I going to do? I used to
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: golf with my father, but he can't do it anymore.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Take the card he can't play.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: The second one is would you rather be able to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: remember everyone's names and faces or every book, movie, and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: TV show you've ever seen?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: A red book, movie, TV show would be amazing, huh.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Acquire a lot of knowledge, you know, and be able
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: to talk about a lot of things.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: And I say this to somebody who puts trouble, that
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: would make you incredibly learned, As they say, I think,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I read.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: I can get by people's names and faces.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Like last night, got back from a trip and she
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, I got you a book and I'm
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: like oh, She's like, it's The Psychology of Money, And
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: I like this first time.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: I never asked me, I've already read it. She's like,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: did you like him? Like, I have no idea. I
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: read books and then they're like out of my head.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: The second books.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Would your child is the best player on every team,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: but you're the parent that yells at the coach and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: ref all the game. Or your kid is among the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: worst on the team, but you're the coach that keeps
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: them in the whole game.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: Those are both miserable.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Your child is the best player on every team, but
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: you're the parent that yells at the coach and ref
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: all game. Or your kid is among the worst in
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: the team, but you're the coach that keeps them in
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: There's nothing more annoying. There's nothing more annoying than number two.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: But it's the coach's son. There's nothing worse than that.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd rather have my politics.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: I hate both of those scenarios. But yeah, there's nothing
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: worse than the coach that plays his kid who can't play.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Nothing worse than that. And finally, would you rather when
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: going on a trip?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Would you rather have everything packed for you or have
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: everything clean and put away when you return home?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Clean and put away. I don't mind packing for
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: a trip, I would agree. Yeah, it's very medical. I'm
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: always like how much underwear, like I'm three days.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: I find both of those things very Yeah, well, I
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: find both of those things very easy.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: But I would rather pack than clean. I feel like
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: a pro.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: Like we got back from India the combine, Like I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: just take the whole thing and just dump it right
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: on the wash.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: I do that.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not that we signed five minutes my suitcases back
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: in the atta. Yet I am one of like I needed, Yeah,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: you want to get it.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: Not that we super long trip, but I think because
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: we travel so much, like I have it down to
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: an absolute science of like what are the essentials that
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: you really need for these trips, Like it's all basically
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: already packed, like especially once we get in seasons.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: Remember I was one bag Paul. They called me one bag.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: There was a time where I bought I found this
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a It was a backpack that was
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: used by DJs and I was able not only to
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: carry all my clothes in it, but my laptop and
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: all my work stuff. And I had one bag that
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: I would take on a trip.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: In your turntables too, if all my turntables.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: I've considered looking into that because we only go for
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: one night when we like go to a road game,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: and it's like you know, this guy, get one bag.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: But then you have to lug all your clothes and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 6: stuff like around the stadium.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: But it was a backpack.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but still you got this big backpack it was.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: It wasn't that big. It wasn't that big. C it
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: wasn't that big. But it had to be heavy. Oh
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: it was heavy. We'll be a little scratching before the game,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: And one time I think I had to bring an
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: extra pair of shoes because I forget what we were doing.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: So I had them tied on the outside of the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: hanging off the bag.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: I think that to play tennis. And didn't you bring
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: your racket? That was I don't know. Maybe maybe I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: thought that was the San Diego trip.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: It might.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: It might have been.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: So I had my sneakers hang tied on outside the bag.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: No more room.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, I haven't talked to this guy in a long time. Uh, Eldred,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: where you've been?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: What's up? Elgi? Hey?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 8: Tellers, how y'all doing. I'm doing good. I hope you
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 8: I have a happy four Yeah.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: I hope so too. Yeah. What are you doing? Are you?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: Are you on the road for the fourth of you off?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 19: I'm working just a half a day, okay? You know
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 19: all right, yeah, working half a day and everything, all right, Evan, congratulations,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 19: and I'm gonna have to agree with disagree with you
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 19: man all Brady.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 8: I've been saying that for years. Sorry, but you can
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: look at the wide.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 9: Receivers he had.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 20: He did make him look better like the fail absolutely
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 20: Hogan Emmondola. You know, welcome with the binkie and I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 20: love that though, but you know than that, I still say, Brady, Brady,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 20: my question is this, well, how about that?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, okay, I got one quo.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: Everybody keeps throwing these pass rushers at us that then
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: they past they prime thirty and thirty six. You know
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 8: that they'll pay this much and that much. But I
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: rather thow money at a true act because we don't
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: have one and walking and now I know what you
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: all throw his notes of ad Mitchell. But he's down
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: on the depth chart because like I said, he ain't
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 8: he't got pay Fitzman because they ain't gonna take his spot.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 8: So he's done grown up about that. I do what
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 8: you get one from May that's younger. It's steady thirty
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: six and forty year old receivers, and I take it off.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: Their Okay, I have a good one.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: I mean I think we all agree with that. I mean,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: we want a true you know, superstar acts.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just a matter of who's available.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: The reason why the pass rushers are coming up is
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: because of their issues with their contracts, you know why.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: And Hendrick Center on the market and they're both thirty.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: And the one that we had yesterday on my show
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: that was McLaurin. Yeah, And they said who would you
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: rather have like or McLaurin, And I said McLaurin, I
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: think what's probably a better pure player.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think that would fit the what they
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: need more.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I would agree, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, So I think
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: in that way we're we're agreeing with Eldred.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: I would agree, but I think I would. But who's available. Yeah,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: the pass rush is a major need.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: I just don't think they have any receivers, but they
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: do have the need for pass rushing.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: Mike's right, he's been on.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: I think if you know this, you know he likes defense,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you can committee the pass rush.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: You're not going to have that elite guy, but you
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: can you can create pressure as a team. You can
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: be a high sacked and the Patriots have shown that
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: you can be a high sacked team without one guy
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: getting fifteen sacks. But to win the one on ones,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: you know, have that X guy that can always win.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: That's huge.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: But I think what Eldrid's saying is taking a flyer
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: on someone who's available because they're down the depth chart
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: and ad Mitchell, like, you know, it's it's hard to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: make that pitch of oh, well, he's going to come
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: in and be the guy. He's a lot like what
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: we have right now, which is unknown, and yeah, yeah,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: maybe he can play.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: He had a little bit of a better He had
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: a better rookie year than than Polk. But it's like
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: not completely different. You know, like two guys that were
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: drafted high that that haven't that didn't have great rookie years.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: He was better than Polk as a rookie, but that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: bar is not very high. But like if these guys
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: were available, like you know, if they could go trade
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: for a superstar receiver, then we would all be on
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: board for the superstar receiver. It's just what's avail I like.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: The idea that they just trade they trade Polk for Mitchell.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: Sure, give that a track set for depressed that.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: But I think that it's in need.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: I just I think it's a lot easier now for
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: me to look around the league and look at a
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: guy like Hendrickson.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: Or even t J. Watt and say, absolutely, this guy
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: would fit in this defense. This is exactly the kind
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: of player they need.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: Whereas in the past with Bill, where it was so fluid,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: you'd be like, well.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: He's kind of a stand up guy, you know, like
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: there'd be something he's Bill gonna use him. Yeah, But
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: now it's just like, no, you get what they're trying
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: You know what the type is, and both those guys
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: are the type, and I would I would, I would
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: sign up for both of them immediately.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: I just think I think it's I think every team
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: could use guys like that.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Bill would have too. I mean, I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: totally understand Mike's point, but I think Bill would have.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: It didn't stop him from Andre Carter, I mean eleven,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: but yeah, TJ.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, let's go to Todd. North Carolina hate Todd.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Todd Todd to Yeah, he's usually right that he's on
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: his game, all right. A lot of emails coming in
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Spian Fresno a little off topic one. What are your
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: all time favorite sports fights brawls? There are so many
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: iconic ones. I get to get your thoughts percolating. Here's
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: a quick list that pops to my mind. Pedro tosses
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Zimmer Tyson bikes holy Field to Leib's felony robbery of
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: Crabtree on Live TV, Nolan Ryan versus Robin Ventura, Patrick
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Wah versus Mike Vernon.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: I don't remember that. Oh yeah, Malice at the Palace.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 6: That's that's in that conversation.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: And the many exploits of professional a hole Bill Lambier, Well.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: Some of those are like in game, like athletes first athletes.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: It's like the mouse in the Palace. It was fans
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: were involved in that. Yeah. I would put the Bruins one.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: In going into the stands right at Madison Square, guard
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: Milberry taking the guy's shoe off. I think the Yankees
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: Red Sox.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: When you know Sech Vera Tech is Zimmer love that
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: because one Evan's going to get mad at me. But
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: one thing always bothered me about that, and that was
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Vera Tech leaving his mask on.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: It bucked me.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't have time to take it all well,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he didn't think about it because you.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: Think that he was. It's cowardly.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't think it was. But I
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: don't like the look of it because of that, right,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, please, there was a softer like star in
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: the history of sport.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: Pretty obviously Pedro and Zimmer is like, that's obviously the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: throw down.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: Hat. That was fine.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: It was what do you mean I charged Pro?
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: He just tossed him to the side.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: I still want to know what Pedro was supposed to do.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: He's going to let him run him over.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: I don't charge.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: Zimmer was one thousand percent in the wrong, Zimmer And
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: and I hate Zimmer. I hated him because he was
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: a horrific manager of the Red Sox, of the my
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: favorite teams of my childhood. But you couldn't do something
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: other than like that man like that laid him and he.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 21: That to me is like encourage more annoying what you
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 21: said about because like Don Zimmer is running full speed
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 21: and everybody just wanted Pedro to just wear it, like
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 21: just let him tackle you.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: It's like I felt bad. I felt more bad for
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: Pedro when people were criticized like all he did was
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: toss him to the side.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It wasn't a great fight, but I
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: don't think they had to do that Cam nearly going
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: after Ol Samuelson.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: That was I kind of enjoyed that that moment elseason
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: just kind of turtle that wasn't really actually a fight,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: but was it?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: Was it when Bird just pounded on Lambier. I just
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: watched that one. That was good.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: Know, Tony Mas had the like they had the tears yesterday,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: they had like some of these like fireworks. It was
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: like fireworks in Boston history. And that was the Bird
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Lambert stuff.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: I was here.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: I remember when Robert Parrish punched Parish.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: That's why you said the many dirty exploits of billing.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: I was here for any of her, any of those
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: guys taking shots at Lamber.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: In your youth sports, uh history, do you remember any
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: fathers getting in fights, like physical fights fight's father.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of times. Yeah, I mean yeah he was.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: There was the headline in the paper the next day
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: was fan fight Mars Holliston victory.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: And because uh, I mean I think I've told this before.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: My I was I was out with the broken wrist,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: drunken high school kids at a high school hockey game,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: a d telling them to leave. My dad goes wh by.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: After a period, the kids are yelling. My dad went
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: up into the stands to try to help him along
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: And then I.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: Didn't see what happened. I just saw like people rolling
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: in the stands and I'm like, oh, there's a fight.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: Going on, and someone's like, it's your dad.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: Not's probably greatest pummic, but that's that's him.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: He's like he's like a vigilante for justice.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: If there are kids like being rude and refusing to
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: leave and disrespectful to it, he's in the face.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: He's gonna get up in their face and have no problem. Okay,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: all right, all right.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: He also got to like I think I told another
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: one where like there was a woman changing her tire
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: and there were like these guys like harassing her and
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: framing him, and he like pulled over and like started
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: yelling at the guys to like leave them alone. There
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: was one at the Boston Garden where some guy was
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: being drunken of like, my dad won't hesitate to like
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: get in somebody's face that they're if they're not doing
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: the right thing.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: There was one that I of Red Sox. One that
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I was hoping would turn into a fight is the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: one where Clemens threw at somebody and the guy I
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was a broken bat.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: He Clemens picked up piece of the bat.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: That was Mets Yankees World Series. It was one of
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was hoping that. I thought it was Yeah,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: I know, throwing them.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: I was helping.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: There's nothing about it that made any sense at all.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: What does he think he's out if he hits him
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: with the ball, you.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: Know the play?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just quintessential Clements meathead r.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to fight there, but it didn't happen.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: Never like Patriots stuff though, really, but I mean football, no,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: not a lot of fights, but there haven't been along
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: in the stands.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: I was just thinking, like the Panthers practice where that
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: was a melee broke out with Wise that.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, football is so good you can't fight. It's like
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: you gotta throw out the joint practice fights because.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 6: They're all happens every The fights in football are snatching,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 6: snatching the chain, or like Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore, Like,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: it's usually like a receiver in a corner that get
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: too physical with each other over the course of a
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: Gameland Finn again, Yeah.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: That's always in fights.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: Andre Johnson landed really really good punch too.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: And then then there are NBA fights where it's more like,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: you know, people slapping each other.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: How do you guys feel now about hockey fights? Like,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: sometimes I watch a hockey fight and I'm like, I
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: can't believe this still happens. Like it's just crazy to
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: me that fights like there's just full on assault will
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: break out in the middle of a sporting event, and like,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: I still I'm a hockey guy.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: I love it, but like it's still.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Just like I still can't believe the local media was
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: having orgasms when they in the in the.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: Hockey World Cup.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Pick your party when when Canada U s A when
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: they started off off, people like.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: This is was pretty coo.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: It was one of the best hockey games I've seen it.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm sort of like an anti I'm kind of
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: like Mike, I think it's kind of run its course,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: not that I don't. I don't think they should outlaw
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: because I do think there's a place, and I think
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: there's a reason why it needs to stay in because
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: it polices the game itself. But I'm kind of I'm
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: kind of over that. It's just Stan Jonathan beating the
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: bag out of Peter Bouchet. When I was a kid, though,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: it was like unbelievable.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: It depends on what the fight like. When they just
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 6: like kind of have a fight just to fight, it's
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: not as fun. But like I we were at a
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: Bruins game off his last year of the year before
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: where the guy on the opposing team, uh, just was
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: going after Pasta, like just going after him. That's going
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: after him, and then he ended up boarding him actually
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: and hitting it, you know the numbers in the back
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: right into the boards, and Trent Frederick just beat the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: crap out of the guy.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: You get whoever, the toughest guy you have, has got
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: to go and protect your stuff.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it happened right in front of us. You
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: would have thought that it was like gladiators in the
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: freak like and the whole stands were like like rooting
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: for Frederick to.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: Just blood lust.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because Pasta is like like on like he's still
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: on the ice. Like I don't know if it was.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: It might have been.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: Another right, it was great, but like that was the
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 6: that was a real true hockey fight, like I can't now,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: I can't remember if it was Star Marshi, but it
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: was one of the sto yeah, absolutely, and and Frederick
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: won the fight. The guy other guy actually ended up
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: getting some locks into and we were like, oh, this
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: is going south. But it was good.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: I just imagine how jarring it is for a fan
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: to go to a game, like maybe they've never been
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: to a hockey game, aren't even aware that that's fighting,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, just like never in
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: real life are you really around, just a fight breaking
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: out and it happens.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: I used to go to the cape Cod Cubs hockey
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: games at the cape Cod Coliseum. This is flights, and
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: there was a guy named Nick Fatile that at the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: end of the second period they dimmed the lights, he'd
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: pick a guy, they'd go to center rice and he
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: beat the crap out of them, you know, And that
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: was like the main thing.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: That was like the main ticket.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: That's why we want to see Nick Fatile fight.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: Like those ones. I just don't like that's like, I
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: don't think that hockey used to do that anymore. Like
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: sometimes you're out of Bruin's game and all of a sudden,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: randomly they'll just drop the gloves and like at the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: other end of the ice, and you're just like what happened?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: Like did someone do something? But like when it's like
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: a star player is getting picked on or something, like,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: you got to have that one guy on the team
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: that's gonna put an end to it. I'm for that.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: And even still there are guys like Sam Bennett who
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: can play on that edge and never have to fight
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: and never have to fight.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: That's why I think that guy needs to get right.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 6: The Bruins tried who was.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: The guy from the Flyers back in the in the seventies,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: like the.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: Bad No, No, he was the he was the orcer.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 5: But the guy there was the jerk. He was a
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 5: great goal scorer, car Bobby Clark.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Bobby Clark, he was such a you know, like he
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: was a rat back in the day, and Dave Schultz
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: would just stick up for him all the time and
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: he'd get away with protection.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: That's the like Charlestown Chiefs, the seventies Flyers, they didn't
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: play hockey.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they they had a nickname, right, what was the nickname?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: Broad Street Bully yet busy the Bruins tried to fight
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: Sam Bennett. I mean the Panthers beat the crap out
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: him every time they play. But Sam Bennett like did
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: some in front of the net last year and he
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 6: didn't realize it was a door who was standing there,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: and so he thought it was it was somebody random
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: and it was a door off who's like Charisize, like
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: he's six eight, six' nine and it's a door off
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: just right hooked to the. Face And bennett just went
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 6: down like a sack of. Potatoes And panthers probably won the,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 6: game like five to.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: One we knocked them.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: Out, yeah are you any more?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: Games uh, no not right.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Now but But matt writes In going to The break On, Tuesday,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: Paul fred And evan were answering a question about if
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: they could go to any sporting, event what would it.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Be some Interesting wimbledon And World cup answers came from the,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: panel But paul sneaky hilarious mumble just before the break
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: WAS i wouldn't go to that if it was in my.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: Backyard about the, world such An, american such an.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: Amazing Com what does the fact That I'm italian have
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: to do. ANYTHING i don't like Soccer.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 6: Italy what do you MEAN i don't like?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: SOCCER i, know BUT i think if the opportunity presents
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: itself next summer to go to one of those, GAMES
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: i probably.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: Would take it just for The i'm not.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: Exaggerating there's nothing they can unless they're they're putting an,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: incentive financial incentive for me to be. There there's nothing
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: that they could not even IF.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: I disagree with, You, Paul i've been to A World cup.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Game it's, amazing it's, amazing but.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be for. Me why BECAUSE i don't have any?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: Interest what about the? Atmosphere it does nothing for.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: Me if Like france And argentina are playing here and
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: you Have messy and like the best team in the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: world In, france you have. None there's nothing about sports
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: in general that attracts you to, That, like there's no
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: there's no appeal to go see the greatest soccer player
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: of all time against the best team in the. World
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 6: like that's not that's not appealing team like to. Me for, Me,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: no that's, crazy but it's it's like a moment.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: Like it's like it's but it's not a moment for.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: Me it's just, like you, KNOW i.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: Onside of, him BUT i am very strongly like kind
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: of Like, paul Like i'd be, cool but like after
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: the first like ten, Minutes i'd probably be.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: LIKE i want To i'd want to be and you,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: know Like i'm like so deranged THAT i would actually
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: feel guilty that someone who would really appreciate this is
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: not getting the opportunity That i'm.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: Getting that's how WHACKED i.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: AM i just like someone else should be, here AND
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: i see like the history of, it like you don't
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: see the moment of something like.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: THAT i don't have any interest in the. Moment but
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: THAT'S i, mean that's kind of along WHAT i.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: Did we had an opportunity to get tickets to The messy,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: game and LIKE i don't have any, interest BUT i
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: have a friend who's a humongous soccer, fan SO i.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: Gave them to.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: HER i gave to played four years of college soccer
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: at Stone. Hill you know his son plays now at
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: The DIVISION iii.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: Level they're, going you're saying less is different Than World.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: Cup they care, no but they but they care about
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: SEEING messi WHEN i thought this all started with the
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: greatest player of all. Time they care about seeing, MESSY i,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: don't SO i got them in the.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Ticket it's pretty cool watching him un full speed with the.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: Ball it's just like it's. Stuck he's. Unbelievable how does that?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: Happen he's just so much better than everybody else.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: Watched brandon writes In what's?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: UP Pu?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: Crew or SHOULD i call You sunshine Dot? Com with
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: all this over the top, positivity that's. Fine it's time
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: to be. Positive is the? Offseason since the majority of
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: The patriots nation believes this season should be a ten
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: win season or, Bust i'd like to do a thought
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: experiment in the opposite. Direction what do you do if
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: You're Robert kraft and The patriots only win four games
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: again this? Season because the context, Matters i'll give you
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: three ways the team gets to four. Wins scenario, One
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: Drake may's play plateaus or regresses and the offense. Struggles,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: meanwhile the defense is middle of the road to. Elite scenario,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: Two Drake may takes a year two, leap but the
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: rest of the team around him, struggles leading to A
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: Joe burrow Slash Drew brees esque season For.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: May Drew brees had some pretty good.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: Seasons scenario, Three Drake may goes down early and is
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: out for the season and the team cannot overcome.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: It that's the only one that would be, okay.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: That would be.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, no but you, know winning four games.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: Excuse the only one that would be an excuse is
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: your quarterback got hurt.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: Already Jason tatum is already out for the. Year can
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: we just like one?
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Person, like, so the question is what do you do
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: when these? Scenarios if You're Robert Drake.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: May taking a step forward and only winning four, games
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: don't see. It it's like really hard to imagine that
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: would be, Bad.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: Like even The bengals to, one like we're one game
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 6: away from the. Playoffs last year they win nine? Games,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: yeah when when when it doesn't come into?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: It Drew brees never had a season like.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: That you, KNOW i get what he's saying, about like the,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 6: stats like good, stats but bad.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: Team but maybe they missed the, playoffs but not four, wins.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: RIGHT i just no matter how it actually looks and
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: how you get, there it's going to be so hard
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: to blow it up.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: Again LIKE i JUST i.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: Can't, Okay so that's why the first one is the worst.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: One so let's take scenario no bottoms out and he.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: Ain't it's clear at the end of when we're doing
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: this show at this time next, year it's clear that
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: may ain't.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 6: The guy we're talking, About Garrett.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: Nesmeier that's the. Worst now you're in first. Scenario now
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: you're in. Trouble now you're really starting. Over, yeah, okay.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: Because you're willing to maybe not, overlook but you're willing
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: at least to pinch your nose and go forward with
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: the weaponry around. Him but it depends on him taking
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: a step and then trying to make something of. It
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: and if he, doesn't then you're then you got. Nothing
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: like anything else.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Though all the free agency brought in that are now you're,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: in so you didn't get that free agent bump and,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: now but.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Like anything, else the devil's in the, details like why
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: did he? Regress you, know like what's going on?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: Here and even like you, know even if you want
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: to play the game of pin it all On josh,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: McDaniels like, again.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: It's hard to, say like year, three we're going to
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: have another.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: SYSTEM i, mean what he had junior, year senior, year
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: first year, SET i, mean five systems in five.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: Years it's it's a really really hard. Sell and what scenario.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: Too it's hard for me to think that he takes
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: a year two leap and they only win four games
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: unless the defense is just.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: HARD i find it really really tough to buy that, too,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: right unless they've just fallen behind and he's getting.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: A lot Of Reven Gardner chew's.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Stats, like so it looks like he's making a, leap
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: but really he.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: Didn't it just.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: Shows how much focus of the season is On Drake
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: may and how much not only depends on, him but
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: just maintaining belief amongst the fan base right, now because
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: people are generally positive on. Him maybe some more than,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: others but generally you feel like you had a pretty
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: good year and that there's a lot of tools to work.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: With but even if he ends up just kind of being,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: middling and like even that is it's gonna be hard
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: to kind of navigate do we bring competition in for?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Him like are we having that conversation in year?
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: Three just, okay that's pretty premature to do that night.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: Three IT'S i, mean it's, hard it's hard it's nothing. Ideal,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah jared's In. Ohio, Hey, Jared.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 22: Hey what's GOING i gotta boone the pick with you.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: Guys oh, yeah, okay.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 22: You guys have had On Tom. Douglas back In, march
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 22: y'all had him on the, show and y'all was talking.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 13: So positive and stuff and laughing in.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 22: Space but, Y'all i've been listening to y'all in the
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 22: past few, months and y'all down them. Thing he's not
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 22: a good.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 13: Receiver he's not Gonna i'm.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: Not gonna make the. Team who said?
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 22: THAT i didn't none of y'all say that the.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: Show we all said that he will make the.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 11: Team.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah Greg bard says that he's not a lot to
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: make the. Roster we, are but we are.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 22: Not you, guys y'all didn't say none of. This a
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 22: couple of months back when he was he was on the.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 22: Show y'all didn't.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 11: Say anything negative to.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: Him y'all just speaking when not say anything negative about?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: Him, now, WELL i don't think he's a, lot BUT
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: i like.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: Him he's a. Player Greg bard, Says i'm not a
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: lot to make the.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: Roster, okay he's not sitting.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: Here that's not That fred was reading a report off
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: of one of our emails That Greg. Barnard they were
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: listening to A Greg barnard. Podcast that's where they said it.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: Was one of the. Courts, actually caller brought it.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Up we haven't said anything negative about To Mario, DOUGLAS.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 22: I, know but y'all said he's not that he's got
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 22: to find. Batter he's not a good.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 19: Receiver wife you.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 22: Know then when he was on the show and who.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: Said he's not a good, RECEIVER i don't.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 22: KNOW i went back and listened to y'all CAN i
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 22: CAN i? TALK i went back and listening to the
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 22: whole show where y'all had him on a couple months.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 22: Ago y'all was sitting, out he's a good people in
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 22: The danish game and all. That But i've been watching
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 22: a lot of the shows and what. Not b y'all
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 22: say he's like a number four.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 19: Receiver, okay, okay, yeah y'all.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: Should have Total, yeah that's not.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: Negative when he was on the, show, YEAH i, mean
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: he's not a y'all.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 22: Should have brunet up a couple of months ago when
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 22: he was on the. Show why y'all should have said?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: That, so why is it, Our but, No, jared we're
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: not going to have a guest on the.
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  Speaker 6: Show DO i have to tell him where he fits
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  Speaker 6: in the hierarchy of the?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: Offense, right y'all.
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  Speaker 22: Was buttering y'all was buttering up and.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 5: Buttering, well he's latter in his faith and. Stuff, well
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: we'll bring nice to him or what's wrong with?
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 22: That oh, so, y'all don't y'all don't be real.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: ANYMORE i would be nice to him right now he
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: was on the.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: Show what is not real about where we?
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: Think If martellus dial was on the, show i'd be
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: nice to sell. Us marcellus, THOUGH i, mean, LIKE i
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: think you're mixing up being nice to a guy with sitting.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: There and evaluating his. Ability oh now you're going to
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: hang up even got under fred?
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: Skin, no BUT i.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: THINK i think he's mixing up being nice to someone
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: with sitting there in front of him and telling him
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: your evaluation of him as a.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: Player you're not going to do. That not a, coach
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: it's not my business to do.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: THAT i can tell you as an analyst WHAT i
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: think about the team and the players and, Whatnot But
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: i'm not going to be disrespectful to a person that's
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: not MY i, think, like, yeah that.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: So you're supposed to say to Tomorrow, Douglas, hey like
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: there's some rumors out there that you might be, traded,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: RIGHT i guess we could. HAVE i don't.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: KNOW i, MEAN i don't. Know jared hung, up but,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: like what's the point of.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: THAT i don't.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: Know at the, GAME i think he's trying to get
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: us in like a gotcha, moment like you guys are
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: frauds because you didn't tell him that it's not a
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: lock to make the team to The space.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: Right like why would we do? That? Why, like why
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: would you say that to? Anybody i'm at a.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: LOSS i, MEAN i the only Thing i've said About
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: Pop douglas AND i kind of think he is a
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: log is THAT i thought he had a really good.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: SPRING i know we had questions how he's going to
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: fit into this. System he was very active this. SPRING
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: i don't know what else he's.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: Looking i've always been A pop. GUY i was pumped
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 6: when they drafted, him Like i've Always i'm always honest with.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: You it's one of the reasons WHY i don't really
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: like player interviews because they're not, real they're not and that's,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: Why like it's just common. Courtesy you don't like bring
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: a guy on your show so you can trash, him,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: right or So Greg bdard is going to sit there and, say, Hey,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: tomrio thanks for joining us. TODAY i don't think you're
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: going to make the. Team, like why Would greg do?
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: That that's not.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: Professional, Now, now if you're talking like with an established
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: player and there's trade roomors circulating and he comes on
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: and it's not a team, show it's it's right the.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: Regular you ask him how you react to the rumors
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: about you possibly being. Traded you should be asking, that
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: but not.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: Us BUT i.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: Didn't we also didn't, say, well you're clearly the best
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: receiver on the, Team.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 6: Tomrio it's like we didn't do, that, right we're.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: Asking me questions about his off.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 4: Season of all the guys that accuse us of, FLAMING
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: i don't REALLY i don't remember ever Flaming Tomorroo.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: Douglas but it's all. Good he's pretty upset about.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: IT i think he has a chance to be another
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: one of these, productive high volume slot receivers That josh
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: McDaniels has.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: LIKED i remember calling him to do. IT i remember
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: calling him a weapon and being. MOCKED i didn't mock,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: you BUT i disagree with.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 6: You there's a difference between us giving our opinions as
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: analysts on the show like we are doing right, now
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 6: and having a guy in for a player interview and
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 6: sitting him. Down it's not the point of the interview
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: him about where he thinks he fits into the, hierarchy
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: AND i just.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: Say, LIKE i don't get what he's, saying because there's
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: Nothing i've said About Pop douglas on the show THAT
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: i wouldn't have said to his.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Face my biggest argument is that he claims that we
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: were negative About.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: Douglas, NOW i don't think we have.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: BEEN i don't think we are, today and somebody we
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: have been in the ensuing shows that we've had since
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: he's been, on somebody had a. Report someone had a
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: report that said that they don't think he's a lock
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: to make the. Roster that's not. Negative there's competition among
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Room and if we said he was you, know we
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: think he could be a good fourth, receiver.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: That's not negative.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: Either.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: No, right, well, listen but when he's sitting, here we're
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: not going to, say you, know the, best we think
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: you could be as a fourth.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: Receiver why would we do?
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 6: THAT i think that he Was we tried to explain
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 6: that that it was we're going off Of greg's reporting
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 6: and not something that one of us. Said AND i
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 6: don't think he was really comprehending That greg is not
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: sitting here with us right, now. Right SO i think
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: that's and they.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: Were comparing between him and Mac, hollis who's more of
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: A Locke Hollins.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 5: HOLLINS i don't know why.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 19: Him.
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  Speaker 6: TOO i don't think he's ever shown any dynamic.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: Ability yeah To Mario, Douglas, yeah you're talking About pop, now.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: AND i would agree with.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: THAT i think, he's you, know sort of like one
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: of those underneath guys THAT i think can be a
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: bigger part if McDaniels likes. HIM i think he could
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: be more of a high volume Like welker. Was but
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: LIKE i wouldn't Say welker was like a dynamic downfield, receiver,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: no but he caught one hundred and twenty balls every, year.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: Right and the question is Like, pop can you could
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: you hold up to?
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 6: That but you do that.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: WELL i think McDaniels might be looking for the BANKY
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: i don't Think pop is.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: A banky type. Guy well he might, be we'll. See,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 5: YEAH i don't, know you.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 23: KNOW i mean of all the receivers that we have
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 23: talked about and analyzed, here of, everybody all of, them like,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 23: Tomorrow douglas is in like probably the top five of
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 23: guys THAT i just think can contribute and have a
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 23: role on this.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: Team and that's like high praise from my point of.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: View totally get What greg's, saying like this is suffered,
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 5: debate but we've never that, guy and believe.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: Somebody that's my my number one problem with the assertion
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: is that we were negative to. THEM i don't think
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: we have, been AND i don't think we were in the.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: Past, meanwhile two emails before calling Us sunshine dot, com so.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: You know you mean you're probably doing something. Right you can't?
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: Wait all, right that's going to be it for this
• 2:00:18
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• 2:00:23
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• 2:00:26
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• 2:00:28
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• 2:00:32
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