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D3 Coach Q&A - Justin Lunt (Pacific MBB) · The Student Athlete Sessions

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SPEAKER_01: All right, we are back with another live D3 coach Q&A.
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SPEAKER_01: We are bringing the experts with all the knowledge,
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with all the D3 recruiting experience directly to you as
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recruits and families to
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help take the guesswork out of this crazy process that a lot of
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you guys are in
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SPEAKER_01: right now.
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Tonight,
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we are lucky to be joined by a longtime D3 veteran head coach,
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Coach Justin Lunt from
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SPEAKER_01: Pacific University out on the West Coast.
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He is a,
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again,
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as I mentioned,
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longtime D3 veteran with stints at Puget Sound.
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SPEAKER_01: He went to Pacific Lutheran and played there.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll get into his playing career in a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: But, Justin, great to have you on the program.
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SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us tonight.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my pleasure.
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SPEAKER_03: And thanks for having me on.
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And just,
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you know,
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like I mentioned earlier,
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I love everything that you do for Division III.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, just making...
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SPEAKER_03: not only making student-athletes aware of everything,
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SPEAKER_03: but also just educating families,
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SPEAKER_03: which I think is a must.
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SPEAKER_03: Like I mentioned to you earlier,
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SPEAKER_03: I really feel like our level is one of the purest levels right now.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not trying to take away from Division I,
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SPEAKER_03: Division II,
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SPEAKER_03: or NAIA,
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SPEAKER_03: but obviously from,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: a lack of NIL and lack of athletic scholarships,
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SPEAKER_03: it's always nice to,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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represent um our level and talk more about it yeah for sure
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it's a it's a it's an
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interesting moment in college sports you have small d1s kind of
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reclassifying down
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to the division three level and and the top echelon of d1 going
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up uh maybe to a
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level that most people can't compete with so as you mentioned
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yeah d3 offers a
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unique proposition where you can still go to a school like
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pacific and get a great
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SPEAKER_01: education and play your sport at a high level so um
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's get into it, though.
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I think the listeners,
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most people on this call are going to want to play college
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sports.
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SPEAKER_01: You did that for a little bit at Pacific Lutheran.
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Maybe just talk about your playing career and how it sets you
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up for your current career.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it was very short-lived because I just wasn't good enough to play.
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SPEAKER_03: But I had some really, really good mentors.
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And actually Coach Harrelson,
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who was the head coach at Pacific Lutheran University,
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SPEAKER_03: was very honest and upfront with me.
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SPEAKER_03: But he loved my passion for the game and really wanted me to help out.
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SPEAKER_03: So literally my sophomore year in college,
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SPEAKER_03: I was running and helping out with all Coach Harrelson's
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SPEAKER_03: start basketball camps.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm originally from San Diego,
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SPEAKER_03: California,
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and then went to college in Tacoma and never once went back
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home for summer because
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SPEAKER_03: all I did was work Coach Harrelson's camps and helped run those.
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SPEAKER_03: So
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SPEAKER_03: He was a great mentor in my life and really got me,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: got me thinking about,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: education and being,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: being a coach and being a leader.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think that that's the real cool thing about our level.
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One of the things that we really emphasize,
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you know,
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especially in our program is that like,
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SPEAKER_03: yeah,
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you're here to play college basketball for four years and
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you're here to get a
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SPEAKER_03: great college degree,
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SPEAKER_03: but you're also here to find a passion for what you want to do.
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SPEAKER_03: Um,
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and so like one of the things I tell families and I tell
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recruits all the time is
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SPEAKER_03: that like,
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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SPEAKER_03: it's not okay for you to be,
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to play four years of college basketball here at Pacific and to
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get a college
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SPEAKER_03: degree.
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SPEAKER_03: And some families will like, look at me like crooked eye going, well,
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SPEAKER_03: Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
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SPEAKER_03: And I go, yes, but it's a little bit bigger than that.
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SPEAKER_03: So,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: part of our job is to help you find a passion for what you want to do,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: because this whole journey to get to college has been about,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: it's been about steps,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: and the next step after college is the real world.
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So you got to start thinking about the next 40 years of your
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life and what that looks like.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I think part of our job as educators and mentors,
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SPEAKER_03: is to help them find a passion.
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SPEAKER_03: So we take that very seriously in our program.
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SPEAKER_03: We're all about professional development.
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SPEAKER_03: And all of our guys have LinkedIn accounts.
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SPEAKER_03: All of our guys know how to write a resume.
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All of our guys are starting to really think about what the
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next step in their journey is.
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SPEAKER_03: So
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all of our guys are required to have internships going into
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their junior or senior year.
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SPEAKER_03: That's not a specific requirement.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a men's basketball requirement.
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SPEAKER_03: And,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: we do the best we can to help them find those,
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but we just really want them to start thinking big picture when
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they're here.
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: in,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: every freshman,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: that is a senior,
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SPEAKER_03: they say,
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh,
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SPEAKER_03: how quickly,
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SPEAKER_03: how quickly it went.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I think,
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starting them early and really getting them to start thinking
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about big picture
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SPEAKER_03: right away is something that's very important in our program.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think that's terrific.
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SPEAKER_01: And to go off the point you made,
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SPEAKER_01: the top of the program,
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SPEAKER_01: D3 is this unique offering at the moment.
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SPEAKER_01: And part of that is setting yourself up,
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SPEAKER_01: not just for those four years you're on campus,
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but for the lifelong career and finding something that you're
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really interested in.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love that you guys promote that.
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SPEAKER_01: Nice that you let your guys off campus.
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Unlike your college experience where you stayed on and were
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just doing the camps,
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SPEAKER_01: your guys get to...
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SPEAKER_01: go see the rest of the country a little bit.
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SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, yeah, no.
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SPEAKER_03: And don't get me wrong.
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SPEAKER_03: I love when our guys stay around,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: as far as being around campus and all that and having internships,
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whether it's in Portland or whether it's in Hillsborough or
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anything that's close,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: to Pierce Grove.
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SPEAKER_03: But I do,
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SPEAKER_03: I do think it's great opportunities,
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especially in the summer for guys to get out and explore and go
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see something new.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, we've had guys that have internships and,
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: Texas and,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: one of our players was in Costa Rica for a month,
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SPEAKER_03: which was an awesome opportunity for them.
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SPEAKER_03: But they need to start getting those life experiences,
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SPEAKER_03: which is really,
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SPEAKER_03: really valuable for their development.
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SPEAKER_03: For sure.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, tonight is a live Q&A.
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SPEAKER_01: We have some people filing into the audience here.
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SPEAKER_01: I saw Coach Brant Minor, who's a good friend of our co-host tonight.
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SPEAKER_01: And we just want to open it up.
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SPEAKER_01: If you guys at any point drop a question in there,
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SPEAKER_01: if you have a question for Coach Lunt,
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and we will work that into the conversation to make sure you
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get those answered.
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SPEAKER_01: You can also email us or DM us on Twitter,
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SPEAKER_01: and we will check those and,
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SPEAKER_01: again,
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SPEAKER_01: work those into the conversation.
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But tonight is about you guys getting the most out of this and
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making sure that we
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SPEAKER_01: get your questions answered.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think, Coach, we can start with one just from the top.
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SPEAKER_01: And maybe this is a good segue here.
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SPEAKER_01: We were just talking about...
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SPEAKER_01: you know, those resume skills, those life skills.
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SPEAKER_01: Um,
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SPEAKER_01: but in terms of like,
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SPEAKER_01: uh,
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SPEAKER_01: skill development from a basketball standpoint,
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SPEAKER_01: what are some of the things you really look for from a recruit,
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SPEAKER_01: um,
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before you're seriously thinking about bringing them onto the
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team at Pacific?
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Boy,
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you know,
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this is,
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I get this question all the time and this,
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this is a great question.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's real, real simple.
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SPEAKER_03: You gotta love basketball.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I, I think that that's, that's the number one thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, because, um,
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if you don't love it,
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um,
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you're not on,
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you're not on athletic scholarship.
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SPEAKER_03: Um,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: we,
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SPEAKER_03: we,
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we run our program just like we would any scholarship level
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program as far as,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: amount of time,
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: we're in the gym,
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SPEAKER_03: we're in the weight room,
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SPEAKER_03: we're in,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: study sessions.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: obviously within the rules,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: the nice thing about our levels,
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SPEAKER_03: there's not a 20 hour rule like there is division one,
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SPEAKER_03: division two.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so, um,
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SPEAKER_03: You got to love it.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think if you're passionate about the game and you love the game,
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SPEAKER_03: you can find a place at our place.
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SPEAKER_03: We do have a JV program.
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SPEAKER_03: We actually have two JV teams.
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So we have a huge roster,
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which is great because we see a lot of guys that come in
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SPEAKER_03: that love the game.
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They're very passionate of the game,
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but maybe they haven't quite developed yet.
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SPEAKER_03: Um,
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SPEAKER_03: and you know,
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SPEAKER_03: not only like,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: this first skill wise goes,
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SPEAKER_03: but body wise goes,
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SPEAKER_03: uh,
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SPEAKER_03: cause it's crazy to see how much,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: growth there is from 18 years old to 22 years old.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so, um,
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SPEAKER_03: I always bring up a great story about one of my former players,
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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SPEAKER_03: who was one of our first recruiting class here at Pacific,
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SPEAKER_03: unbelievable,
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SPEAKER_03: uh,
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SPEAKER_03: a student athlete,
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SPEAKER_03: just amazing kid.
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SPEAKER_03: But I remember when he first walked in and him sitting on my couch,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: and,
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: baby faced,
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SPEAKER_03: You know, it just looked very young.
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SPEAKER_03: But he loved basketball.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's like, I just want an opportunity.
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SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: and if you were to ask me,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: after meeting with him,
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SPEAKER_03: if I ever thought he'd be a varsity basketball player,
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SPEAKER_03: I would have said,
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SPEAKER_03: there's no way.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely no way.
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SPEAKER_03: But he loved basketball.
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He put in the work,
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he grew four inches,
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he lost all his baby fat and that all became muscle.
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SPEAKER_03: So he was like, you know, kind of this hudging, you know, baby fat kid.
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SPEAKER_03: And then all of a sudden he,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: starts understanding,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: what the weight room looks like and understanding nutrition.
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SPEAKER_03: And,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: he grows from,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: five,
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SPEAKER_03: nine to six,
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SPEAKER_03: three and looks like he hanged in,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: it's like just becomes this dude.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know, he, he played significant minutes.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, he started his senior year, but he was playing all the time.
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: his,
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SPEAKER_03: his junior,
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SPEAKER_03: he had a COVID year,
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SPEAKER_03: some COVID years,
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SPEAKER_03: junior year,
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SPEAKER_03: senior year,
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SPEAKER_03: but that's just a pure example of,
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: and he played JV his first two years.
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SPEAKER_03: Um,
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SPEAKER_03: but he's a perfect example of a kid,
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SPEAKER_03: um,
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who loved basketball and just was passionate about it and
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wanted to get better.
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SPEAKER_03: And if you've got that mentality, um, then, then we can work with you.
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We'll help you get better and we'll,
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you know,
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we'll help you,
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um,
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progress.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so,
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SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, I think that that's the big thing.
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I,
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you know,
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when I talk to families,
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it's like,
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you got,
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you got to love it.
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SPEAKER_03: If you don't love it, you won't make it.
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SPEAKER_03: If it's a like thing, we're not the right fit, um, for you.
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Um,
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just because of how schedule demanding it is,
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how academically rigorous it is.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, you gotta love, you gotta love playing basketball.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's gotta be a high priority.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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I think that is something that a lot of kids coming into
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college don't understand,
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SPEAKER_01: especially if they're not familiar with the Division III level,
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SPEAKER_01: that you're probably going to be giving 40 hours a week,
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SPEAKER_01: just like a job,
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SPEAKER_01: a nine-to-five job,
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SPEAKER_01: to basketball or to your sport.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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And,
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you know,
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then again,
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as you mentioned,
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you got to balance the academics.
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You got to be proactive with your professors and say,
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hey,
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I got two games coming up this week.
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I'm going to have to get an extension on that paper because I'm
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just not going to be on campus.
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SPEAKER_01: So we're going to be traveling.
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SPEAKER_01: And those things that,
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SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: if you're not really committed to the sport,
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it is going to be hard to balance all of those over the course
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of your career.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that's well said.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: If we try, I mean, I'll be real honest with you.
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SPEAKER_03: And I know Brian's on here too.
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And,
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uh,
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you know,
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coach minor,
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um,
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we,
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we try,
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like we,
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we try to paint the picture of that.
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SPEAKER_03: This is, this is a tough place.
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SPEAKER_03: Like,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't want to sugarcoat anything that like,
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SPEAKER_03: I want to,
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SPEAKER_03: I want every recruit,
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SPEAKER_03: every family knowing that like,
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SPEAKER_03: Hey,
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SPEAKER_03: this is going to be very challenging.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, it's going to be challenging academically.
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SPEAKER_03: It's going to be challenging basketball wise.
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SPEAKER_03: We're, we're very demanding.
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SPEAKER_03: We're very passionate.
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But,
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like,
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you know,
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it's an environment that if you love it,
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you're going to excel in it.
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And I think that that's the important piece that we really try
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to paint a picture
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SPEAKER_03: with with every family.
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SPEAKER_01: For sure.
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SPEAKER_01: We just got a good question coming in here.
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And,
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again,
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Coach Minor being on is helpful because I know you guys co-run
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Grit.
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SPEAKER_01: an organization.
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SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: He runs it.
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SPEAKER_01: I just work for him.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just his coach.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Got it.
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SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
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SPEAKER_01: Understood.
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SPEAKER_01: Understood.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that clarification.
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SPEAKER_01: Mr. Kim here is wondering, how do you guys recruit
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Pacific uh are you local with AAU any high school teams and
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then they're also
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SPEAKER_01: wondering about this uh about the two JV teams and how you navigate that
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conversation with with parents recruits coming in how does that
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are people slotted
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SPEAKER_01: as a JV player or is it more like let's see once you get on campus
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Yeah,
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and that's a great question because,
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you know,
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we get that all the time.
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And here's one of the things we always say is that we don't
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promise you any spot.
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SPEAKER_03: We just promise you're going to be part of the program.
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SPEAKER_03: And then everything's got to be earned from there.
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You know,
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so like a lot of families are like,
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hey,
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coach,
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you know,
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is it going to be JB?
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SPEAKER_03: Is it going to be varsity?
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SPEAKER_03: And I go, honestly, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know, this goes into the fact that, like,
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SPEAKER_03: you know, and Coach Miner's on this call too.
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SPEAKER_03: We've had players who,
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SPEAKER_03: if you were to ask me to like,
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SPEAKER_03: hey,
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SPEAKER_03: you've got to make a decision on this player.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: I would have thought, oh, he's probably going to be JV.
13:28
And then we've had the opposite where we've had players where
13:31
make a decision on them.
13:32
They've got to be,
13:33
you know,
13:34
they're probably going to be a varsity player.
13:35
SPEAKER_03: And I've been wrong in both cases.
13:38
SPEAKER_03: You know,
13:38
SPEAKER_03: so like,
13:40
SPEAKER_03: I always say,
13:40
SPEAKER_03: hey,
13:41
you never really know what you're going to get out of a player
13:43
until they step on
13:43
SPEAKER_03: the floor and are in that competitive environment.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: And,
13:47
SPEAKER_03: you know,
13:47
SPEAKER_03: the two biggest adjustments high school kids make from college,
13:52
SPEAKER_03: number one,
13:52
SPEAKER_03: and this is any level,
13:53
SPEAKER_03: Division I,
13:54
SPEAKER_03: Division II,
13:54
SPEAKER_03: Division III,
13:55
SPEAKER_03: NAIA,
13:55
SPEAKER_03: JUCO,
13:57
SPEAKER_03: is number one is the physicality of the game.
14:01
SPEAKER_03: It's a lot more physical than when you were in high school.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: And number two is the speed of the game.
14:05
SPEAKER_03: So,
14:06
SPEAKER_03: you know,
14:07
we've had players that have been supreme athletes that can play
14:10
above the rim,
14:11
SPEAKER_03: that can do this,
14:12
SPEAKER_03: that can do that.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: But the speed of the game is just overwhelming.
14:15
SPEAKER_03: So they need a year of JV.
14:17
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
14:17
SPEAKER_03: Like where they need to get in the game reps and then develop that way.
14:21
SPEAKER_03: And then we've had players where,
14:23
SPEAKER_03: you know,
14:24
SPEAKER_03: maybe they weren't the most athletic players,
14:27
SPEAKER_03: you know,
14:28
SPEAKER_03: just strictly just shooters,
14:29
SPEAKER_03: but they're ultra competitors.
14:31
And they like the physicality and the speed of the game just
14:34
came natural where,
14:36
SPEAKER_03: you know,
14:36
SPEAKER_03: we've just had to keep them on varsity.
14:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, so we...
14:41
SPEAKER_03: We always say, hey, we're not going to promise anything.
14:43
The only thing I'll ever promise is that your son's going to go
14:46
to class because if
14:47
SPEAKER_03: I got to walk into class,
14:48
SPEAKER_03: I will,
14:49
SPEAKER_03: which doesn't happen a lot at our level.
14:51
But our guys are going to go to class and then everything from
14:54
there is found.
14:55
So it creates this big time competitive environment,
14:59
which is what you want.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
15:00
SPEAKER_03: if you're a competitor,
15:01
SPEAKER_03: like you want to be in an environment where you're not being slotted.
15:04
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm not being told I'm a JV guy out of high school.
15:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm being told that I'm going to be part of the program.
15:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to get cut.
15:11
SPEAKER_03: You know, I can go compete and then I get to earn everything from there.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I think it's funny because I think we get like from a from.
15:22
SPEAKER_03: from outside and looking at it, I know we get negatively recruited.
15:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh, they have a big roster that carry all these guys, yada, yada, yada.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: And that's fine.
15:30
SPEAKER_03: Um,
15:30
SPEAKER_03: but,
15:30
SPEAKER_03: but the,
15:31
SPEAKER_03: the,
15:32
SPEAKER_03: the troops and the opponent and our guys get better,
15:33
SPEAKER_03: um,
15:34
SPEAKER_03: you know,
15:35
SPEAKER_03: and they develop and they become better basketball players.
15:37
So there,
15:38
there's,
15:39
there's gotta be something we're doing right with that.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: Um,
15:41
SPEAKER_03: you know,
15:42
SPEAKER_03: so,
15:43
SPEAKER_03: um,
15:43
SPEAKER_03: you know,
15:43
SPEAKER_03: the other question was that the two JV teams,
15:45
SPEAKER_03: you know,
15:46
SPEAKER_03: we'll have,
15:47
SPEAKER_03: um,
15:47
SPEAKER_03: two JV teams that play,
15:49
SPEAKER_03: They play 10-game schedules in the fall,
15:51
SPEAKER_03: and then we have what we call our G League,
15:54
which is our competitive JV slash varsity league that we run
16:01
during January and
16:02
SPEAKER_03: February,
16:02
SPEAKER_03: which has kind of taken off on its own.
16:05
I mean,
16:05
it's become this real big deal on campus and has created a lot
16:10
of connection amongst
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, just everyone in our program.
16:13
SPEAKER_03: So that's a lot of fun,
16:14
SPEAKER_03: but yeah,
16:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
16:15
SPEAKER_03: it's,
16:16
SPEAKER_03: Hey,
16:16
SPEAKER_03: if we offer you a roster spot,
16:18
SPEAKER_03: we're offering your roster spot.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: Everything else has got to be earned from, from there on out.
16:22
SPEAKER_03: Once you step on campus.
16:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: Coach minor, we're some good additions here.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Two things determine where you're going to stack up,
16:28
SPEAKER_01: how hard you work and who else they recruit.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: So focus on what you can control and, and then go from there.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: So, um,
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a couple other questions here.
16:39
Kind of on the topic of getting a coach's attention and getting
16:43
recruited.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: But two sides of the same coin, maybe.
16:47
So I guess I'd ask you,
16:49
one,
16:50
where you guys,
16:51
I guess,
16:51
will be this summer.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, where does Pacific normally find its guys?
16:57
SPEAKER_01: And then the other one is from Chase Kendall here.
17:01
What's the best way to get a coach's attention and how much is
17:04
too much when reaching out?
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay,
17:08
SPEAKER_03: so talking about our recruiting,
17:10
SPEAKER_03: we're a national university,
17:14
SPEAKER_03: so we will recruit all 50 states and we'll recruit internationally.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: I think for us, we try to really keep it West Coast related.
17:23
SPEAKER_03: I think the farthest West we'll head,
17:28
SPEAKER_03: we do have two players from Houston,
17:29
SPEAKER_03: Texas,
17:30
SPEAKER_03: which is pretty cool,
17:31
SPEAKER_03: but I would say that's probably the farthest West.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: that will recruit.
17:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, East, sorry.
17:40
SPEAKER_03: And unless players,
17:42
SPEAKER_03: we did have a player from North Carolina this past year,
17:44
SPEAKER_03: Nate Willis,
17:45
SPEAKER_03: who was a junior college transfer.
17:48
But we're trying to stay where if we can go fly out to watch a
17:55
player or have a
17:57
SPEAKER_03: player come visit,
17:58
SPEAKER_03: it's closer.
17:59
SPEAKER_03: So I would say predominantly we recruit just the West Coast.
18:03
SPEAKER_03: But not saying we won't recruit the East Coast if there's a player.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, like our two players from Houston, Texas.
18:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they came out on visits.
18:11
SPEAKER_03: You know, they love the vibe of the campus.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: They love the vibe of the team.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, and they're here.
18:17
SPEAKER_03: So we're never going to say no to anyone, I guess.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I like that.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: How about specific camps or,
18:25
SPEAKER_01: you know,
18:25
SPEAKER_01: places that you guys have found success on the West Coast?
18:27
SPEAKER_01: Is there anything...
18:29
that recruits should be keeping in mind or maybe some guidance
18:33
for what camps
18:34
SPEAKER_01: typically work for D3 recruits?
18:37
SPEAKER_03: I just had a conversation with one of our grit parents this past week.
18:42
His son hurt his ACL,
18:47
so he's out,
18:48
so he won't be able to play with us this spring.
18:51
SPEAKER_03: Pat Sherby is going to be able to play with us this summer,
18:54
SPEAKER_03: but he's going to be a senior this upcoming year.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: So he's a junior right now.
19:00
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, he just asked me for some advice on it.
19:04
And I just said,
19:04
listen,
19:05
I said,
19:05
you know,
19:06
you guys got to sit down as a family.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: And here are a few of the questions that I would ask,
19:12
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:12
SPEAKER_03: with your son is,
19:15
SPEAKER_03: do you want to stay on the West Coast?
19:17
You know,
19:17
is Midwest East Coast,
19:19
is that something that you would be interested to?
19:21
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to go to a big school?
19:22
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to go to a small school?
19:24
SPEAKER_03: that these,
19:25
SPEAKER_03: these things are really,
19:26
really valuable to understand because a lot of times all 17 and
19:33
18 year olds,
19:34
SPEAKER_03: all they're thinking about is I just want to go play basketball.
19:36
SPEAKER_03: I just want to go play basketball.
19:37
SPEAKER_03: And they don't take in the fact that like,
19:40
SPEAKER_03: well,
19:41
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:41
SPEAKER_03: a small school,
19:43
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:43
SPEAKER_03: you're going to have an average class size,
19:45
SPEAKER_03: like a civic average class size of 18.
19:48
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:49
SPEAKER_03: You know,
19:49
SPEAKER_03: where do you want to go to a big school where,
19:51
SPEAKER_03: you know,
19:51
SPEAKER_03: your business class can have 700 different students.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: Like,
19:54
Once they start seeing like,
19:55
because that's a huge difference in your academic experience.
19:59
SPEAKER_03: Massive.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: You know,
20:00
SPEAKER_03: so I think that they've got to start really thinking about,
20:04
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:04
SPEAKER_03: the size of the school,
20:05
SPEAKER_03: the size of the class.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: Those things are really, really important.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: Close to home, far away.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: And then the other thing is like,
20:13
SPEAKER_03: start thinking about what you want to do,
20:15
SPEAKER_03: like as far as degree goes.
20:17
SPEAKER_03: Um,
20:17
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:17
SPEAKER_03: because I think a lot of kids will go,
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Hey,
20:19
I just want to play college basketball and they're giving me
20:21
this opportunity.
20:22
And then when they looked at all the degrees they offered,
20:24
nothing interests them.
20:25
SPEAKER_03: And it's like, you're here to get an education number one.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: Um,
20:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:30
SPEAKER_03: so you got to start thinking,
20:32
SPEAKER_03: and there's a lot of 17,
20:33
SPEAKER_03: 18 year old,
20:34
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:35
SPEAKER_03: uh,
20:35
SPEAKER_03: men that don't know what they want to do and that's fine.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: But is there anything that interests you?
20:40
SPEAKER_03: Um,
20:40
SPEAKER_03: you know,
20:40
so those are the things I tell families start putting together
20:44
a list of what that
20:45
SPEAKER_03: looks like.
20:45
SPEAKER_03: And then
20:46
SPEAKER_03: Once you have a list, you know, email coaches.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: If there's coaches that have already reached out and it's shown interest,
20:53
SPEAKER_03: follow up through those.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: Ask those questions.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: You know, where's the school located?
20:58
SPEAKER_03: You know, what did they have to offer as far as degrees?
21:01
SPEAKER_03: What's the size of the school?
21:03
And then I would start looking to aim towards going to elite
21:08
camps that those schools offer.
21:09
SPEAKER_03: Most college programs offer some sort of elite camp.
21:14
SPEAKER_03: We don't just go visit.
21:15
you know,
21:16
where you can get a good sense of what the campus is like,
21:19
what the coaches are like.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think you learn a lot in elite camps.
21:23
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we run our elite camps like we would our practices.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: So very intense.
21:28
SPEAKER_03: We get on our guys.
21:29
SPEAKER_03: We hold them,
21:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
21:29
SPEAKER_03: a high standard,
21:31
SPEAKER_03: you know,
21:31
SPEAKER_03: so they're getting a good sense of,
21:33
SPEAKER_03: you know,
21:34
SPEAKER_03: what it's like to play for Pacific men's basketball.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: And I think most elite camps, they do those things.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: So I think that that's, those are questions that,
21:46
SPEAKER_03: And I'm a parent, too.
21:47
SPEAKER_03: I got a 15-year-old that's a sophomore.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: She wants to go play college volleyball.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: So, like, we're going to start kind of navigating through that stuff.
21:53
SPEAKER_03: But she's also,
21:54
SPEAKER_03: like,
21:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
21:55
SPEAKER_03: she's like,
21:56
SPEAKER_03: well,
21:56
SPEAKER_03: I just want to go play Division I.
21:57
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like,
21:58
SPEAKER_03: well,
21:58
SPEAKER_03: quite frankly,
21:59
SPEAKER_03: hon,
21:59
SPEAKER_03: I love you to death,
22:00
SPEAKER_03: but you're not going to play Division I.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: You know,
22:03
SPEAKER_03: you got your dad's chance.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: There's no way that, like, you know.
22:07
SPEAKER_03: But, you know, she still wants to play competitive.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:10
SPEAKER_03: You know,
22:10
so it's trying to get here to think about just the big picture
22:14
and what this whole
22:15
SPEAKER_03: journey looks like.
22:16
And I think a lot of times parents,
22:19
that's part of our job is to make them think big picture.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: Even though they don't want to hear it at the time,
22:25
you got to start getting them to think about what those four
22:28
years are going to
22:28
look like and what you're going to get out of those four years
22:31
that's going to help
22:32
SPEAKER_03: them.
22:33
prosper and find a passion for what they want to do because
22:36
lord knows and i know
22:37
there's a lot of parents on here we don't want to move them
22:39
back home when they get
22:41
done no no we want to help them find a you know find a passion
22:45
for what they want
22:46
to do and and making sure that they're living that out um so
22:49
right those would be
22:50
the advice i think elite camps i think aau is great um you know
22:55
i love running our
22:56
SPEAKER_03: grit program um or not running it but coaching our grit program
23:00
SPEAKER_03: because there's so much that goes into it.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: It's not just roll the ball out and go play.
23:05
SPEAKER_03: We do a lot of mental training.
23:07
SPEAKER_03: We do a lot of college breakdown training.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: We just do, we do a lot for, for the student athletes.
23:12
SPEAKER_03: So I think AAU high school, you know,
23:15
SPEAKER_03: All of those things are big factors.
23:17
SPEAKER_03: And then just reach out to the schools that show interest.
23:21
SPEAKER_03: And then if there's schools that you're interested in,
23:24
SPEAKER_03: reach out to them too,
23:25
SPEAKER_03: whether it's through email,
23:27
SPEAKER_03: whether it's through phone calls,
23:28
SPEAKER_03: whatever that looks like.
23:29
SPEAKER_03: I think those things are valuable.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: I think being persistent in the whole process is important.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's well said.
23:38
And I like a lot of what you just said,
23:40
but I'll focus on a couple things.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, one, getting on campus generally.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: Even if it's not,
23:46
SPEAKER_01: you can't make the elite camp work,
23:48
SPEAKER_01: get on campus,
23:48
SPEAKER_01: stop by the coach's office,
23:50
SPEAKER_01: stop by admissions,
23:52
SPEAKER_01: learn a little bit more about financial aid.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: We just had a financial aid question in the chat,
23:57
SPEAKER_01: and a parent whose recruit is debating D2 versus D3,
24:01
SPEAKER_01: but they're worried about the cost.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:05
Get in that office with the admissions department and just talk
24:08
through your
24:08
SPEAKER_01: situation because those are the experts.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: And I mean,
24:12
SPEAKER_01: I saw Coach Minor in the comments added that,
24:14
SPEAKER_01: you know,
24:14
SPEAKER_01: if you have a 3.9,
24:15
SPEAKER_01: you're getting $40,000 off of tuition immediately at Pacific.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Um,
24:21
SPEAKER_01: We've seen around the country,
24:23
we're compiling a list on our website of D3 schools where if
24:26
you make under a
24:27
SPEAKER_01: certain amount of money,
24:28
SPEAKER_01: you pay $0 in tuition.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: So these things exist.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: And I think the more you do your research, the more you'll see that...
24:37
SPEAKER_01: they can be competitive with maybe,
24:41
SPEAKER_01: I know basketball and football are full scholarship sports,
24:44
SPEAKER_01: but for another sport,
24:46
maybe could be competitive with an equivalency scholarship at
24:49
the D1 level,
24:50
SPEAKER_01: even if it's athletic.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: Here's, and I worked at St.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: Martin's College for one year.
24:58
So I was at a Division II school in the Great Northwest
25:01
Athletic Conference for a year.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: That was my first college coaching job.
25:05
SPEAKER_03: And I got to see a lot of how that worked as far as
25:08
SPEAKER_03: scholarship money and how things go.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: Now, a lot's changed since 2002.
25:14
But I think the thing that's really important to understand is
25:19
there's opportunities.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: I think a lot of times families,
25:22
they get very intimidated by the price tag of what they look at
25:26
on the website.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: I always tell families,
25:31
I know that your number one concerns when it's going to cost,
25:34
which it should be.
25:36
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
25:36
SPEAKER_03: I mean, and that's, that's, that's the way it is.
25:39
SPEAKER_03: Right.
25:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm like,
25:39
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:40
SPEAKER_03: come check out the campus,
25:42
SPEAKER_03: kind of,
25:42
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:42
SPEAKER_03: hang out with the guys,
25:43
SPEAKER_03: come see what it feels like.
25:45
SPEAKER_03: And then like,
25:46
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:46
SPEAKER_03: you get your financial aid package,
25:48
SPEAKER_03: you get admitted,
25:49
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:49
SPEAKER_03: like if,
25:50
SPEAKER_03: if,
25:50
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:51
SPEAKER_03: reach out to financial aid,
25:52
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:52
SPEAKER_03: counselors reach out to admissions,
25:54
SPEAKER_03: all of those ask if there's anything more,
25:57
SPEAKER_03: there's so many,
25:57
SPEAKER_03: you know,
25:59
opportunities to get more money um i just think sometimes
26:02
families get intimidated
26:03
by that and they just kind of nope it's not going to work
26:08
rather than like hey
26:08
let's let's take a look at it especially if it's a place that
26:12
your son or daughter
26:14
wants to go to school you know what i mean so um i think that
26:16
those things are are
26:17
really really important to do um you know and i think coaches
26:21
should be very
26:21
SPEAKER_03: proactive about that too um
26:24
SPEAKER_03: and make sure that,
26:24
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:25
SPEAKER_03: you're educating families on that,
26:27
SPEAKER_03: you know,
26:27
SPEAKER_03: and I will say about Pacific,
26:28
SPEAKER_03: like we're going to give it our best footwear.
26:30
It doesn't mean it's always going to work financially,
26:33
but we're going to at least try our best.
26:35
SPEAKER_03: And that's one thing I love about our place.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would just say we got Jamal.
26:41
Thanks for the,
26:42
for the honesty here saying we're so intimidated by the sticker
26:45
price.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: As you just said, it's, it's real.
26:48
I'll just give some numbers though,
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from,
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from two recent clients we worked with.
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SPEAKER_01: trying to help them think one was borderline D D one D three.
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Um,
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they founded a D three school on the East coast and got a
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$76,000 off of tuition.
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SPEAKER_01: They're paying just under 20 a year.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's before things like, you know, work study or, uh,
27:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, outside scholarships.
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SPEAKER_01: This is all aid from the school.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's potential that goes even lower.
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SPEAKER_01: There's another one in the Midwest that we just worked with.
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SPEAKER_01: They got $50,000 off and they're paying just over $20,000.
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SPEAKER_01: Again, before work-study, before outside.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: So it's usually,
27:27
SPEAKER_01: depending on how much you make,
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SPEAKER_01: if you're under $150,000 as a family,
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SPEAKER_01: you're going to be in a pretty competitive situation.
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spot to get a lot off of tuition so don't don't be intimidated
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by the sticker price
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that's what i'd say well and just this was another point i
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wanted to make um we
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will not let a player commit to our place um until they visited
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campus that's great
27:52
not will not um and i think that that's another important piece
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to all these
27:56
families you know make sure do not commit to a school unless
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you visited the campus
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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whether that's right or whether that's wrong for my 20 plus
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years being a college
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SPEAKER_03: basketball coach,
28:07
SPEAKER_03: like that,
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SPEAKER_03: that's the best advice I can give to families.
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SPEAKER_03: You have to visit the campus.
28:12
SPEAKER_03: You can't just commit to that campus without visiting it.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think that that's really, really important.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I can give a personal story.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was, I was dead set.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to this one school.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: I grew up in North Carolina.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: It was not too far from home.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: And I love the coach.
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He had recruited me for a long time and then went to campus and
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met the players.
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SPEAKER_01: And it just wasn't the right fit from a team standpoint.
28:38
And it allowed me to see the reality of what my life would be
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like for the next
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SPEAKER_01: four years,
28:44
SPEAKER_01: what the surrounding area would be like.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's just so critical that you meet the players,
28:49
SPEAKER_01: you see the culture,
28:51
SPEAKER_01: see the whole experience up close and personal.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: So that's great advice.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: We've got a question again here from Chase Kendall.
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SPEAKER_01: Is it okay for high school coaches to reach out to the college coaches?
29:04
SPEAKER_01: What's your take on that?
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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Because if we're recruiting a high school player,
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we're going to be reaching out to the coach.
29:12
SPEAKER_03: You know,
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SPEAKER_03: I think you learn a lot by what the head coach's perspective,
29:19
SPEAKER_03: high school head coach's perspective is on the athlete.
29:22
SPEAKER_03: And I think, you know,
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Most high school coaches teach at the high school.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: So they're around it, the student athletes a lot.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: So you get a really good perspective on that.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: But like, I think high school coaches reaching out is valuable.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: And I do think that like any college coach,
29:41
SPEAKER_03: if they're doing their due diligence,
29:43
SPEAKER_03: should be reaching out to the high school coach.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
29:45
SPEAKER_03: obviously reach out to the AAU coach too,
29:46
SPEAKER_03: but the high school coach I think is very,
29:48
SPEAKER_03: very normal.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's like one of the things that like when,
29:54
our staff recruits like,
29:56
you know,
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hey,
29:58
just saw some film or we just saw this kid play.
30:01
SPEAKER_03: Boy, he can really go, right?
30:03
SPEAKER_03: And I just want to reach out to the high school coach.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: And then honestly,
30:07
SPEAKER_03: what we tell our coaching staff is don't ask anything about how good of a
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SPEAKER_03: basketball player they are.
30:14
SPEAKER_03: I just want to know,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: what's their commitment like in,
30:17
SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: on the,
30:18
SPEAKER_03: what's their commitment like as a teammate?
30:20
SPEAKER_03: Are they selfless?
30:21
SPEAKER_03: Like those things are more valuable than,
30:24
you know,
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scoring 20 points or scoring 15 points or whatever,
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you know,
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it is.
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I want to know the character of the player that we're
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recruiting because yeah,
30:34
SPEAKER_03: he might score 25,
30:35
SPEAKER_03: but if he's selfish,
30:36
SPEAKER_03: it doesn't work hard,
30:37
SPEAKER_03: then,
30:38
SPEAKER_03: Hey,
30:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry,
30:38
SPEAKER_03: but they're not going to make it here.
30:40
SPEAKER_03: You know,
30:41
SPEAKER_03: that just,
30:42
SPEAKER_03: it's,
30:42
SPEAKER_03: you know,
30:42
SPEAKER_03: those things are just,
30:43
SPEAKER_03: aren't going to bring value to our program.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: So I think that that's, that's an important piece, you know, as far as,
30:50
SPEAKER_03: reaching out to head coaches.
30:51
So to answer that question,
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I think head coaches reaching out,
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I think is an important piece.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: I think it helps.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: I think it helps cut through the noise.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: Like you said, you get, you get a vetted opinion.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not just a kid saying, Hey, I'm coach.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm, I'm awesome.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm a good player.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: I can fit for your program,
31:06
SPEAKER_01: you know,
31:06
SPEAKER_01: and I'm sure you've been,
31:08
SPEAKER_01: you've been doing this a long time at a high level,
31:11
SPEAKER_01: you know,
31:11
SPEAKER_01: former conference coach of the year.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: This year, I think you were a national D3 hoops coach of the week.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: So,
31:19
SPEAKER_01: you know,
31:19
SPEAKER_01: you are,
31:20
SPEAKER_01: you are,
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you know what you're doing and I'm sure you've cultivated these
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relationships over,
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SPEAKER_01: over the course of your career with,
31:25
SPEAKER_01: with,
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SPEAKER_01: people, high school coaches and travel team coaches that you trust.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: So that can definitely go a long way.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: You know,
31:34
SPEAKER_03: just some lesson that I learned,
31:36
SPEAKER_03: and I'm not going to bring up the D1 coach's name,
31:40
SPEAKER_03: but when I was at Puget Sound,
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there was a D1 coach that there was a couple of really good
31:44
players in the Tacoma
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SPEAKER_03: area.
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And he's like,
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hey,
31:47
would you mind going out and watching these kids play?
31:50
SPEAKER_03: And I said, yeah, absolutely.
31:51
You know,
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and so went out and watched a couple of these high school
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coaches
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SPEAKER_03: players play, you know, I'm watching their game, all that stuff.
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And then,
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you know,
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called the coach back the next day,
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had a great conversation with them.
32:06
SPEAKER_03: And he didn't want to know anything about their stats.
32:09
SPEAKER_03: He didn't ask me anything about how many points they scored,
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SPEAKER_03: how many rebounds,
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SPEAKER_03: what was their assist turnover ratio,
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SPEAKER_03: nothing.
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All he wanted to know was,
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hey,
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and these are the four things I always talk about with
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families.
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SPEAKER_03: He wanted to know how coachable the kid was.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, does he look his coaches in the eyes?
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SPEAKER_03: Is he respectful?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, does he take good, hard coaching?
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SPEAKER_03: He wanted to know how good of a teammate he was.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: You know, how was he with his teammates?
32:34
SPEAKER_03: He wanted to know what his competitive drive was.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: Like, does he always play hard?
32:38
SPEAKER_03: Is he consistently playing hard?
32:40
SPEAKER_03: And this is like a very well-known Division I school.
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You know,
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and so,
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you know,
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and then the other one was like,
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you know,
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like –
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SPEAKER_03: his competitive spirit along with his work ethic.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: Like what does that look like?
32:54
SPEAKER_03: Did he look like she,
32:56
SPEAKER_03: they won the game,
32:57
SPEAKER_03: but,
32:57
SPEAKER_03: but did he look like,
32:58
SPEAKER_03: you know,
32:59
SPEAKER_03: winning was important because,
33:00
SPEAKER_03: you know,
33:01
SPEAKER_03: when you start getting to these higher levels,
33:02
SPEAKER_03: as we can see,
33:03
SPEAKER_03: like,
33:03
SPEAKER_03: you know,
33:04
SPEAKER_03: if you've got a guy that doesn't play hard and isn't competitive,
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no coach is going to want to waste a full grant scholarship and
33:10
NIL money on a
33:11
SPEAKER_03: player that doesn't have those things.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: So I remember hearing that when I was 26,
33:16
SPEAKER_03: 27 years old,
33:17
SPEAKER_03: there's probably my third year being head coach.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: The second, third year.
33:21
SPEAKER_03: And I remember going like, wow, that's a lot of value.
33:23
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, when we look at players, that's what we look at.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: Are they coachable?
33:29
SPEAKER_03: Are they great teammates?
33:30
SPEAKER_03: Do they play hard and do they care about winning?
33:33
SPEAKER_03: You know,
33:34
SPEAKER_03: if you've got those things,
33:37
SPEAKER_03: you're definitely someone that we want to invest some time into.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Something else I always heard from my high school coach,
33:43
SPEAKER_01: this was a common refrain,
33:44
SPEAKER_01: is just,
33:45
SPEAKER_01: you know,
33:46
are you going to have to be someone that the coach is dealing
33:49
with off the court?
33:50
Are they going to have to follow up with professors because
33:52
you're causing problems?
33:53
SPEAKER_01: Are you not turning in your homework?
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Are you, you know...
33:57
Like,
33:57
is it going to,
33:58
are you going to be easy to coach as a whole human being?
34:01
SPEAKER_01: Not just on the,
34:02
not during those like two hours of practice every night that
34:06
you're on the
34:06
SPEAKER_01: basketball court,
34:07
SPEAKER_01: but throughout the whole process,
34:09
SPEAKER_01: take care of your business as a human being.
34:13
So I think that's a great reminder for anyone who wants to play
34:17
at the next level.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: We got a question from the mailbag.
34:24
And I'll just pause here because I guess we're at halfway to
34:27
remind everyone that this is a Q&A.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: So Coach Lund is here,
34:30
SPEAKER_01: head coach of Pacific University men's basketball,
34:34
SPEAKER_01: to answer your questions.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: So keep asking them in the chat.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: You guys have been great tonight on this.
34:40
And,
34:41
yeah,
34:41
I think we will go to this mailbag here from an international
34:45
parent.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: You guys have two international players that I saw on your roster,
34:50
SPEAKER_01: one from Melbourne,
34:51
SPEAKER_01: Australia,
34:52
SPEAKER_01: one from Japan.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: Let me just check.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: Any others or is that it?
34:57
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: Shunda and Banya.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
35:01
So the question here is for international players who want to
35:03
study and play at
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Pacific,
35:06
SPEAKER_01: what is the best way to do that?
35:07
SPEAKER_01: How do they get your attention?
35:08
SPEAKER_01: How do they make the admissions part and the financial aid part work?
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Because I know that can be challenging sometimes for internationals.
35:15
SPEAKER_03: Well,
35:16
SPEAKER_03: so as far as reach out to one of our coaches,
35:22
SPEAKER_03: myself,
35:22
SPEAKER_03: you know,
35:23
SPEAKER_03: we have three coaches on staff.
35:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm a recruiting coordinator,
35:27
SPEAKER_03: Brandon Hellstrom,
35:29
SPEAKER_03: who,
35:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
35:30
SPEAKER_03: watches so much film and goes to so many games.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: He's been part of that for four years now.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: He knows everything that it takes.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: So reach out to one of them.
35:40
SPEAKER_03: And then,
35:43
SPEAKER_03: This is where Division III can be a little different.
35:45
SPEAKER_03: So we don't have international scholarships.
35:49
So if you are an international student,
35:53
you will not qualify for financial aid.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: So you're going to have to pay whatever your merit scholarship is.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: That's all you're going to be able to get you.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: Now,
36:02
SPEAKER_03: there are schools in our conference that have international scholarships,
36:06
SPEAKER_03: which is a whole different story.
36:08
SPEAKER_03: So I think knowing what that school has to offer you,
36:13
SPEAKER_03: Financially,
36:14
SPEAKER_03: it is important,
36:15
SPEAKER_03: you know,
36:15
SPEAKER_03: because that's that's one unique thing about our level is,
36:19
SPEAKER_03: you know,
36:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
36:20
SPEAKER_03: there's three schools,
36:21
SPEAKER_03: two schools in our conference that can that can fund you international.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: They have international scholarships where us on this case, we do not.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: You know,
36:32
SPEAKER_03: so doesn't mean we won't recruit international students,
36:34
SPEAKER_03: but I'm always very upfront about that.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: Just that, hey.
36:39
We don't have any international scholarships and financial aid
36:44
if you're an
36:44
SPEAKER_03: international student doesn't work.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: So I think knowing that is important.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: I think that's helpful.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: And to be fair,
36:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
36:53
SPEAKER_01: there are we just wrote up a piece on this on our website,
36:57
SPEAKER_01: but there are,
36:58
SPEAKER_01: you know,
36:58
SPEAKER_01: international programs.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: or scholarship search engines for international students.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: So things like, you know, a bunch of outside awards.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: There are things for specific people from specific countries.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: So I know at certain D3 schools,
37:12
SPEAKER_01: there's one,
37:13
SPEAKER_01: if you're,
37:14
SPEAKER_01: you know,
37:14
SPEAKER_01: from Japan,
37:15
SPEAKER_01: there's a special scholarship for you.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's like 15 to 20K off tuition.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: So there are all these pieces at the Division III level to make it work.
37:24
as an international kid,
37:25
it's a little more challenging,
37:26
but,
37:27
but to your point,
37:28
it's possible.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: And you got two of them on your team right now.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: So, um, good example for those two guys.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh, let's see here.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: We got some more questions in the chat,
37:40
SPEAKER_01: uh,
37:40
SPEAKER_01: from AJ Cole here,
37:42
which has more value in the eyes of a college coach playing
37:45
high school or AAU?
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Boy, um, it's a great question.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh, AJ, um,
37:54
SPEAKER_03: I would say, I think it all has to do with, with the coaches style.
38:03
Um,
38:04
and then also knowing what type of playing style you're going
38:07
to be playing in.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: Like,
38:08
SPEAKER_03: so for instance,
38:09
SPEAKER_03: I bring this up,
38:09
SPEAKER_03: like,
38:09
SPEAKER_03: um,
38:12
SPEAKER_03: we,
38:12
SPEAKER_03: we have a recruit right now,
38:13
SPEAKER_03: um,
38:13
SPEAKER_03: that we're on.
38:15
SPEAKER_03: And with this AU team, I saw him play this summer and like,
38:20
He was balling like they were playing fast and they're up tempo
38:23
and he's shooting
38:24
SPEAKER_03: three and he's attacking the rim and like very similar to how we play.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: Right now, his high school team isn't that way.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: They're very controlled.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: They're very set oriented.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: So it's like,
38:36
SPEAKER_03: you know,
38:37
he does a great job within that offense and defense structure
38:40
in this high school
38:41
SPEAKER_03: team.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: But if I were to see him play high school wise,
38:45
SPEAKER_03: and then just watch,
38:47
SPEAKER_03: you know,
38:47
SPEAKER_03: to end seeing any AU,
38:49
SPEAKER_03: I probably wouldn't have been as high on him as when I saw him play AU.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:54
SPEAKER_03: So, but, that's a preference thing, right?
38:57
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, we play very up and down.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: We're very up-tempo.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: We press and trap.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: We shoot a lot of threes.
39:06
SPEAKER_03: So,
39:07
SPEAKER_03: like,
39:07
SPEAKER_03: you'll see a little bit more of that out of AU,
39:09
SPEAKER_03: just because,
39:10
SPEAKER_03: like,
39:11
SPEAKER_03: AU teams don't get a lot of time to practice.
39:12
SPEAKER_03: They're going to have to put in a couple simple...
39:15
SPEAKER_03: things here and there offensively and defensively.
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And then you got to go play where obviously you're on a high
39:19
school team and,
39:21
SPEAKER_03: you know,
39:22
SPEAKER_03: there's some high schools that don't have shot clocks,
39:24
SPEAKER_03: you know what I mean?
39:25
SPEAKER_03: So there's a different mentality.
39:26
SPEAKER_03: So I think that like,
39:27
SPEAKER_03: I don't think there's a right answer as far as like what,
39:30
SPEAKER_03: what brings more value.
39:34
SPEAKER_03: I do think that like playing both is a good thing to do.
39:39
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, trying to find what fits your style of play as far as,
39:44
You know,
39:46
you a lot of time can't just leave your high school on
39:47
transfer.
39:48
SPEAKER_03: You know,
39:49
SPEAKER_03: so if it's not the style of play you enjoy playing,
39:52
SPEAKER_03: but you're committed to playing since it's,
39:54
SPEAKER_03: you know,
39:54
SPEAKER_03: high school you're committed to,
39:56
then finding a system as far as AU ball that fits how you play
40:01
and what you excel
40:02
SPEAKER_03: in.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: So I think there's a lot of value in both.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
40:07
SPEAKER_01: that's a good example,
40:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
40:08
SPEAKER_01: with that specific recruit,
40:09
SPEAKER_01: that a lot of it,
40:12
SPEAKER_01: AJ,
40:12
is going to be dependent on where you're going to go try to
40:15
play in college.
40:16
And this goes back to our conversation that we just had about
40:19
kind of knowing the
40:21
school and thinking about the major that you might want to do
40:24
ahead of time.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Because if you reach out to a college coach and,
40:28
SPEAKER_01: let's say,
40:28
SPEAKER_01: you know,
40:29
SPEAKER_01: you know you want to do engineering and you want to play in this,
40:32
SPEAKER_01: like,
40:32
SPEAKER_01: you're comfortable in a set offense –
40:35
SPEAKER_01: And that's where you operate.
40:36
And you go to a coach and you say,
40:38
hey,
40:38
coach,
40:38
I'm really interested in studying engineering.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Here's my highlight tape.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: And you give them a highlight from that type of offense.
40:44
And their school doesn't have engineering and they run a
40:47
fast-paced offense like
40:48
SPEAKER_01: you're talking about.
40:49
It's going to show you as a coach that they're not that
40:52
interested in the school.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: That would be my guess.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: That they haven't taken the time to have done that research.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: Yep, exactly.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: So good question, AJ.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, we had one earlier.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm curious here on your,
41:08
SPEAKER_01: uh,
41:08
SPEAKER_01: on your thoughts here,
41:09
SPEAKER_01: coach about,
41:11
SPEAKER_01: uh,
41:11
SPEAKER_01: NIL to division three level.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: I know your alma mater Pacific Luton has done some,
41:16
SPEAKER_01: done some decent work on this front and,
41:18
SPEAKER_01: um,
41:19
SPEAKER_01: just curious how you've seen it impact the level so far.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: And maybe if you guys are doing anything with it at Pacific.
41:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've, we've got a couple of guys on NIL, um,
41:30
SPEAKER_03: We're talking free sandwiches and maguettes, which is an island food.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: So they get free meals.
41:41
SPEAKER_03: And they've got to post some stuff on Instagram.
41:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, none of our guys are getting paid.
41:46
But being in a small town,
41:48
it's always nice to be able to get a free meal.
41:51
SPEAKER_03: I think – and I've been very, very, very, very vocal about this.
41:59
I think NIL level – NIL money at our level is just the wrong
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thing to do.
42:06
SPEAKER_03: It's going to create so much – what's the right – hostility.
42:13
SPEAKER_03: Missing sentence, maybe.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, and here's the reason why.
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Like,
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you know,
42:18
NIL deal at Division I,
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Division II,
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those kids are going to school for free.
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SPEAKER_03: They're getting their education paid for.
42:26
So,
42:26
yeah,
42:26
they're getting extra money,
42:27
and they break that up with however –
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SPEAKER_03: You know, it happens.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: But, like, no matter what, at Division III, you're paying for something.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: So now, like, I just think it creates animosity amongst players.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: And it's definitely not a team culture that I would want to be about.
42:42
SPEAKER_03: So,
42:43
SPEAKER_03: you know,
42:43
SPEAKER_03: if we had a,
42:45
SPEAKER_03: you know,
42:45
SPEAKER_03: a big donor or a big booster and was like,
42:48
SPEAKER_03: hey,
42:49
SPEAKER_03: you know,
42:49
SPEAKER_03: can we start doing NIL?
42:51
SPEAKER_03: I would be very reluctant to do that.
42:54
I think our guys reaching out to the community and getting free
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sandwiches and
42:59
SPEAKER_03: getting free teriyaki chicken,
43:02
SPEAKER_03: rice plates,
43:03
SPEAKER_03: I think that's fine.
43:04
But I think when you start mixing money in with players that
43:09
are having to pay for
43:10
SPEAKER_03: school,
43:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm not a big fan of that.
43:13
I don't think it's the right way of doing things,
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and I don't like it at our level.
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SPEAKER_03: I've got no problem with that at Division I and Division II.
43:22
And then I,
43:23
you know,
43:24
cause let's be honest,
43:25
those kids,
43:26
those kids are on scholarship.
43:27
SPEAKER_03: They're going to college for free, right?
43:29
SPEAKER_03: Like at our place, at our level, that's not the case.
43:33
SPEAKER_03: Student athletes are having to pay some sort of money to go to college.
43:37
SPEAKER_01: So you're saying it kind of bleeds into like a little,
43:39
SPEAKER_01: like almost two borderline athletic scholarship.
43:42
If you start to pay for a lot of the tuition,
43:46
is that,
43:46
is that what I'm hearing now?
43:48
yes and i think it takes away from the purity of of our lives
43:54
right whether that's
43:56
right or whether it's wrong i don't know that's just how i feel
43:59
about it now don't
44:00
get me wrong i got you know i want guys to like you know i want
44:03
i want them to you
44:04
know nil and do things in the community and all that stuff i i
44:08
just when it starts
44:09
SPEAKER_03: coming down to us having like if that's
44:13
SPEAKER_03: guys are proactive and want to go try to make money on themselves,
44:17
SPEAKER_03: you know,
44:18
SPEAKER_03: and NIL almost here.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: But as far as like us getting a budget of money and then having to,
44:24
SPEAKER_03: you know,
44:24
SPEAKER_03: start paying players,
44:26
SPEAKER_03: that's just not,
44:27
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to do that.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: I see that.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: I see the, I see the distinction there.
44:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, that is helpful for sure.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, we got a question from a high school coach, Henry James here.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh,
44:41
SPEAKER_01: He asked,
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Coach Lunt,
44:42
SPEAKER_01: as a college coach,
44:43
SPEAKER_01: are you recruiting and finding guys at your exposure in prospect camps?
44:47
SPEAKER_01: So we did talk about this a little bit already.
44:49
But his concern is,
44:52
as a high school coach,
44:53
he gets questions all the time.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, is it worth it to go to these things?
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Maybe like,
44:57
SPEAKER_01: how many of your guys,
44:58
SPEAKER_01: your current roster,
44:59
SPEAKER_01: varsity roster,
45:00
SPEAKER_01: went to your elite camp at Pacific,
45:02
SPEAKER_03: just for a stat?
45:04
SPEAKER_03: I would say, I'd say more than 75%.
45:06
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
45:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:08
SPEAKER_03: So the vast majority here.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it's very important.
45:13
Um,
45:13
you know,
45:14
and,
45:15
um,
45:15
like our elite camp that we do,
45:18
it's a whole day deal.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: We actually,
45:20
SPEAKER_03: what's great about it is we partner with,
45:23
SPEAKER_03: uh,
45:23
SPEAKER_03: Brent,
45:24
SPEAKER_03: uh,
45:24
SPEAKER_03: coach minor stuff,
45:25
SPEAKER_03: max hoops.
45:26
So they do his max hoops camp,
45:27
which is a Friday,
45:28
Saturday or Saturday,
45:29
Sunday.
45:30
SPEAKER_03: And then we do our elite camp on that Monday.
45:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's been awesome.
45:34
Um,
45:35
I just think it's great because we get the full college
45:37
experience,
45:38
you know,
45:39
um,
45:40
SPEAKER_03: We have, we do tours.
45:41
SPEAKER_03: We have admissions counselors come down and talk to families.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: We, you know, it's not just going out and playing basketball.
45:47
SPEAKER_03: Like we do a lot of things.
45:51
I want them to get a sense of what it's like to be a student
45:55
athlete here and to
45:57
SPEAKER_03: know everything about the ins and outs of Pacific.
45:59
SPEAKER_03: So I do know,
46:01
SPEAKER_03: you know,
46:01
SPEAKER_03: I've heard of some elite camps that words,
46:03
SPEAKER_03: it's all,
46:04
SPEAKER_03: Hey,
46:04
SPEAKER_03: we just want to get bodies.
46:05
SPEAKER_03: It's all money driven and they don't recruit anyone out of them.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: You know,
46:09
SPEAKER_03: That's not ours.
46:10
And I think the person in the pudding with how many guys that
46:12
we've had that are on
46:14
SPEAKER_03: our roster that came to our league camps.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
46:17
yeah that's a great point and coach james what i would say uh
46:20
just for you to again
46:22
an additional layer to this we just did a piece on our website
46:25
uh wrote an article
46:26
called just our d3 recruiting camps worth it and we kind of
46:29
break down each each uh
46:32
category like how to tell are you actually getting interest
46:35
from your coach that's
46:37
SPEAKER_01: asking you to come to this camp um
46:40
statistics like what Coach Lund just mentioned,
46:42
like 75% of his players are there.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: We pointed out another D3 in that article where I think it was...
46:51
Five of their six recruits from the previous year had all gone
46:54
to their elite camp.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: So look for those types of stats.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: And when you talk to the coach, you can ask them that question.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing wrong with just saying, hey, we're a little concerned.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: It's going to be a big trip.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: We're limited on budget.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: How many guys do you normally take from this camp?
47:11
SPEAKER_01: Is that going to be something that's worth it for us?
47:13
SPEAKER_01: So ask those tough questions.
47:15
Don't ever feel the need to shy away from that because it's
47:19
only going to help you
47:20
SPEAKER_01: once you get on campus.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Right.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: And also it's like, I mean, it's, it's your money.
47:26
SPEAKER_03: You're, you're the one paying to go on these trips.
47:28
SPEAKER_03: Like,
47:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
47:29
SPEAKER_03: don't,
47:29
SPEAKER_03: you know,
47:30
SPEAKER_03: ask those questions because you don't want to waste money,
47:32
SPEAKER_03: you know,
47:33
SPEAKER_03: you know,
47:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
47:34
SPEAKER_03: you know,
47:34
SPEAKER_03: time.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: So I think that that's, that's, that's an important piece.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:40
It's about,
47:41
it's about,
47:42
yeah,
47:42
making,
47:42
making sure it's worth it for you there.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: You could,
47:45
SPEAKER_01: you could try to go to every camp in the country,
47:47
SPEAKER_01: but it's at the end of the day,
47:48
SPEAKER_01: you got to go where coaches that you want to see you are going to be.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: So that's a D3 elite camp.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: Then, then that's it.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Um,
47:58
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, great question, Coach James.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: And let's see here.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: Just as we kind of wrap up,
48:04
we're getting to try to go another five to ten minutes or so
48:08
here based on
48:08
SPEAKER_01: questions just to be mindful of Coach Lunt's time.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: He's being generous on a Sunday evening here to answer y'all's questions.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: So make sure to drop them down there if you have additional questions.
48:21
Um,
48:21
but coach,
48:22
I would just say to you,
48:23
you know,
48:23
you guys just wrapped up another season.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: Um,
48:27
SPEAKER_01: you know,
48:27
SPEAKER_01: what do you,
48:27
what are you building off of from this most recent campaign and
48:31
where do you want
48:32
SPEAKER_01: to go next season?
48:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, we, we, we, we lost a lot of seniors the year before.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, and you know, that senior group was a great group.
48:44
SPEAKER_03: It,
48:44
SPEAKER_03: you know,
48:44
SPEAKER_03: made the playoffs for the first time in 25 years,
48:46
SPEAKER_03: which is an awesome experience and
48:48
You know,
48:48
that,
48:49
you know,
48:49
so we,
48:50
we have,
48:50
we literally started five,
48:53
five players this year.
48:54
SPEAKER_03: Three of them had not played, played minimum 12 minutes.
48:58
SPEAKER_03: You know, they ended up starting.
49:01
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, so a lot of, a lot of learning, a lot of learning lessons.
49:07
SPEAKER_03: But, you know, great group.
49:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, we were trying, three of those guys back.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: One of them was all called.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm having a little bit of trouble hearing your coach.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: Can you hear me now?
49:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: Got you back.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so we, we've got some really good pieces coming back.
49:36
SPEAKER_03: Um,
49:36
SPEAKER_03: I like our younger,
49:37
SPEAKER_03: I like our younger class,
49:38
SPEAKER_03: you know,
49:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
49:39
SPEAKER_03: you're,
49:39
SPEAKER_03: we're never going to stop recruiting.
49:41
Um,
49:41
so this,
49:41
you know,
49:42
it's a big recruiting year for us and bringing in the right
49:46
fit.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: Um, but, um,
49:49
SPEAKER_03: Just, yeah, just keep building on what we have.
49:52
SPEAKER_03: And, I mean, our conference is so tough.
49:56
SPEAKER_03: You know, so every night it's a battle.
49:59
SPEAKER_03: You know, coaches, goals are in our conference.
50:03
So,
50:04
yeah,
50:05
just looking to keep building on it and see what we can next
50:08
year.
50:08
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll go to the last question here, and then we'll let you go.
50:15
From a parent,
50:16
Tony Shivers here,
50:18
asking about his sons in the class of 2028.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: When,
50:21
SPEAKER_01: for you,
50:22
SPEAKER_01: I know you can't speak for all D3 coaches,
50:24
SPEAKER_01: but when,
50:24
SPEAKER_01: for you,
50:25
SPEAKER_01: do you think in the calendar you'll start looking at 2028s?
50:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:27
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at a junior.
50:44
I mean,
50:44
if it's a football player,
50:45
a senior,
50:47
hopefully he's going to come look for us next year.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I've known him since he was a freshman.
50:56
SPEAKER_03: But he also goes to Forest Grove High School.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: I've seen him, you know, all the time.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: But usually we'll start looking at the junior college.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: Looks like we lost Coach Lund here.
51:16
But I think what he's saying is generally you're going to look
51:21
at a recruit as a D3 coach.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: You're going to look at a recruit in their junior year.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: That's when recruiting starts to get really serious.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: He gave an example of a guy he's known maybe since his freshman year.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we got him back.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
51:34
Okay.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: I don't know where I left.
51:37
SPEAKER_03: Sorry about that.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: I think you're good.
51:39
SPEAKER_01: You were just saying kind of start focusing on junior year.
51:42
SPEAKER_01: So maybe you're looking at 2027s right now.
51:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's helpful.
51:49
I mean,
51:50
I think,
51:50
yeah,
51:50
a lot of times we get,
51:51
you know,
51:51
we get questions from 2028s,
51:53
2029s.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: And I mean,
51:55
the advice I try to give is just get your classwork done and
51:58
get your grades up,
52:00
SPEAKER_01: work on your game.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: But the grades will unlock so much from a financial aid standpoint,
52:05
SPEAKER_01: from an admission standpoint,
52:06
SPEAKER_01: that that will just make you easier to recruit down the road.
52:10
And then you can let basketball take care of itself or you can
52:13
let whatever sport
52:14
SPEAKER_02: you play take care of itself.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: Coach minor, get the grades and skills up.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: All right.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, let's wrap it up here.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: Coach, uh, coach, any final words or thoughts for the audience?
52:35
SPEAKER_03: No, just, just grateful to be on here tonight.
52:37
SPEAKER_03: Um, and, um, you know, uh,
52:41
SPEAKER_03: Parents, feel free to reach out to me.
52:43
SPEAKER_03: Like, send me an email.
52:45
SPEAKER_03: If you have any other questions,
52:46
SPEAKER_03: I want to be,
52:48
SPEAKER_03: obviously,
52:49
SPEAKER_03: like,
52:49
SPEAKER_03: we want to recruit the right players.
52:51
SPEAKER_03: I also want to be a resource.
52:52
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I've been doing this so darn long.
52:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, I felt like there's a lot of knowledge.
52:58
SPEAKER_03: And,
52:58
SPEAKER_03: you know,
52:59
SPEAKER_03: one of the reasons why,
53:01
SPEAKER_03: you know,
53:01
I coach one of Brant's teams is because I want to be a resource
53:04
for parents and
53:06
SPEAKER_03: families,
53:06
SPEAKER_03: you know,
53:06
SPEAKER_03: trying to find a place to play.
53:09
Um,
53:09
you know,
53:09
so I just,
53:10
I really respect what you're doing for our level,
53:12
grateful for it.
53:14
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, and, and appreciate you having me on tonight.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Our pleasure.
53:18
SPEAKER_01: It's a, it's a treat.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: You, you, like you, you've had a long D3 career.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: You're,
53:22
SPEAKER_01: you're one of the best coaches here in the country as,
53:24
SPEAKER_01: as you know,
53:25
SPEAKER_01: that the D3 hoops national coach of the,
53:27
SPEAKER_01: of the week nod,
53:29
SPEAKER_01: uh,
53:29
SPEAKER_01: indicates from this season.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, it was our pleasure.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining.
53:34
SPEAKER_01: All right.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: You have a great night.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
53:36
SPEAKER_01: All right.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for watching, everyone.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: This has been another D3 Head Coach Live Q&A.
53:42
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53:43
Let us know who you want us to interview next,
53:46
and we'll try to make it happen.