Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Navneet Dang, Chief Medical Officer at Geisinger Community Medical Center
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- 0:30Welcome everyone to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series. I'm Rah Mohammed,
- 0:35writer and moderator with Becker's Healthcare.
- 0:37I'm absolutely thrilled to have with me today Dr. Nav. Dang,
- 0:41chief medical officer at Geisinger Community Medical Center. Doctor,
- 0:45it's very nice to have you on the podcast today. How are you?
- 0:48I'm good.
- 0:49Thank Great, great. Glad to have you on. To get us started,
- 0:53would you mind please introducing yourself and telling us a bit about your
- 0:56background and organization?
- 0:58Yeah, thank you Mariah, for the opportunity and uh,
- 1:02it's my pleasure to be here. So my name is Nni Dan.
- 1:07I have been in healthcare for about 25 years and at
- 1:12Geisinger for about eight years.
- 1:15I'm an internal medicine physician and have been in various leadership
- 1:20positions within Geisinger Health.
- 1:23Most recently as system chief quality officer,
- 1:27where I led efforts around patient safety and quality across
- 1:32inpatient areas across 10 hospitals and system
- 1:37chair of inpatient medicine as well.
- 1:40I currently serve as the Chief Medical Officer at Geisinger Community Medical
- 1:45Center in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
- 1:49Our campus is a level two trauma center with close to
- 1:53290 beds and is one of the teaching sites
- 1:58for Geisinger Commonwealth School of Medicine medical students,
- 2:02various residencies and fellowship programs.
- 2:07A brief introduction about Geisinger Health as a health system.
- 2:11Geisinger is an integrated healthcare delivery model with a strong
- 2:16focus on value-based care.
- 2:18We take pride in taking care of our patients through the whole continuum of
- 2:23care. Our vision is making better health,
- 2:26easier for the patients and communities we serve.
- 2:31Geisinger is focused on three key strategic priorities,
- 2:35which are managing total health, operational excellence,
- 2:40and access and ease of use.
- 2:44Good, wonderful.
- 2:45Thank you so much for giving us that background on you and your organization.
- 2:49Um, the first question that I really wanted to ask you, doctor,
- 2:51is can you tell me about your most successful project or initiative from the
- 2:55last year? What issues were you trying to solve and also what drove the success?
- 3:01Yeah, thank you Maria for the question. Um,
- 3:05so there are couple of initiatives that come to mind, which I would,
- 3:10uh, like to share today.
- 3:13Our teams at Geisinger are laser focused on improving quality,
- 3:18patient safety and patient experience for our patients and the communities
- 3:23we serve.
- 3:24We have embarked on a journey to zero harm and worked
- 3:29extremely hard to reduce preventable harm.
- 3:32There has been a significant focus on reducing and
- 3:37preventing patient harm across the clinical enterprise.
- 3:42One initiative that comes to mind is our work around reducing
- 3:47central line associated bloodstream infections across the system.
- 3:52We assembled a multidisciplinary team of clinicians,
- 3:57which included physicians, nursing staff,
- 4:00infection control team, and our vascular access team,
- 4:05and created a system task force.
- 4:08We used our proven care approach and standardized our
- 4:12insertion and maintenance practices for central line care.
- 4:17We also created an escalation process to get central lines out
- 4:22in a timely manner.
- 4:24The root cause analysis process helped us to discover
- 4:29areas of opportunity and develop appropriate action plans.
- 4:34We closely tracked compliance of our process measures and
- 4:39created an audit process which led to about 50%
- 4:45reduction in central line associated bloodstream rate across all our
- 4:50hospitals in Scranton.
- 4:53At Geisinger Community Medical Center.
- 4:56We had eight months without a central line associated
- 5:01bloodstream infection this year and have also seen significant
- 5:05improvement in primary bloodstream infection as well.
- 5:10We are also seeing significant improvements in our catheter
- 5:14associated urinary tract infections.
- 5:17Hospital acquired c diff infections and went associated pneumonia rates
- 5:22because of our JO journey to zero harm.
- 5:27The second initiative that I would like to talk to you
- 5:32about today,
- 5:34there is a significant focus on value-based care across the
- 5:39organization. During covid,
- 5:43we saw a significant challenge with inpatient mobility
- 5:47for our patients due to isolation and some of the other challenges
- 5:53in terms of taking care of our covid patients. As such,
- 5:58our physical therapy and nursing teams worked diligently to
- 6:03refine mobility efforts at the campus.
- 6:06We instated a mobility challenge,
- 6:09which awards the unit who has the highest number of steps with
- 6:14a golden sneaker award.
- 6:17We have more than tripled the total number of steps currently and we continue
- 6:21to improve.
- 6:23This has enabled us to improve patient outcomes and decrease
- 6:28post-acute utilization.
- 6:30Our skilled nursing facility and inpatient rehab facility
- 6:35utilization post discharge has been below benchmark
- 6:40and because of these efforts,
- 6:42we are able to discharge 80 to 85% of our
- 6:47patients home from the hospital.
- 6:50This has also enabled us to have top
- 6:55desire performance in bundles, payment care improvement,
- 6:58advance initiative by C M s,
- 7:01which really focuses on value-based care and cost of and total cost
- 7:06of care. So that was, um,
- 7:11two initiatives. The third one that I would like to describe,
- 7:16which has been very successful in improving access within the hospital
- 7:21and re represents one of our strategic objectives,
- 7:25is our efforts concerning length of stay and throughput.
- 7:31We have been able to improve our length of stay by 15
- 7:36to 20% by instituting multidisciplinary
- 7:40rounds, which we call boost rounds on each unit.
- 7:45A greater representation of the inclusive culture at Geisinger
- 7:49is that members of our care team come together and design care plans
- 7:55alongside our clinicians.
- 7:58Some epic tools in place such as expected day of discharge
- 8:02and medically ready buttons keep our care teams focused
- 8:08on proactive discharge planning from the time of admission.
- 8:14To answer your question, Maria, about what drove success.
- 8:18So couple things there.
- 8:20We have developed a unit-based diode leadership model,
- 8:24which we call accountable care unit model,
- 8:28where a physician and nursing leader dyad work together
- 8:33towards driving change and improving clinical outcomes.
- 8:37The secret sauce, in my opinion,
- 8:39is high reliability organization methodology and
- 8:44multidisciplinary approach to caring for our patients.
- 8:48So those were some of, um, the initiatives, uh,
- 8:53and also, um,
- 8:55some of the key areas that helped us to drive
- 9:00success.
- 9:02Wow, that is totally wonderful.
- 9:04Thank you so much for sharing those three initiatives. As you know,
- 9:07the clinical workforce has changed a lot in the last few years.
- 9:10What challenges are you still facing and how do you see the clinical workforce
- 9:14evolving?
- 9:16Yeah, thank you. Uh, Maria, this is another great question.
- 9:21Let me take a stab at this. Um, and I'm not sure if you,
- 9:26um, looked at the Medscape survey report from 2023,
- 9:32but about 52% of physicians reported
- 9:37experiencing burnout,
- 9:39which is a negative change from 2018 numbers at
- 9:4442%.
- 9:45So there has been 10% increase in physician
- 9:50burnout. Um, in last five years,
- 9:5423% physicians reported depression,
- 9:58which is again a worsening statistic from 2018 at
- 10:0215%,
- 10:0461% physicians reported that too many bureaucratic
- 10:09tasks is the number one reason for burnout and lack of
- 10:14respect from coworkers at 36% is the second
- 10:18reason. Second most common reason for physician burnout.
- 10:23In my opinion,
- 10:24clinician burnout is the biggest challenge and burnout was present even
- 10:29before covid, but COVID has significantly worsened it.
- 10:34There is a lot of focus from our system on
- 10:38clinician wellbeing and there are many programs developed at
- 10:43Geisinger to support clinician wellbeing.
- 10:47We are not leaving the burden of solving this issue just on our clinical teams.
- 10:53There are system solutions being developed for this particularly
- 10:58critical issue.
- 11:00Our chief wellness officer at Geisinger is leading
- 11:04different work stream to improve clinician burnout
- 11:10in terms of clinical workforce evolvement.
- 11:15I feel programs like virtual nursing,
- 11:18telehealth services and AI can significantly
- 11:23help to improve access to care.
- 11:27Human touch and patient-centric approach is still going to be the key,
- 11:32but AI and digital tools to improve patient outcomes will
- 11:36be crucial to evolving the healthcare space.
- 11:40So those were some of the thoughts I had.
- 11:45Absolutely. Thank you so much for sharing that insight. And Doctor,
- 11:48before I let you go,
- 11:49the last thing I wanted to ask you is what is your best advice for aspiring
- 11:53physician and nurse leaders?
- 11:56Another great question.
- 11:59So I would say that time spent at bedside caring for
- 12:04patients is critical.
- 12:07My advice for aspiring physician and nurse leaders
- 12:12would be to commit to lifelong learning
- 12:17because I believe that leadership is an acquired skill
- 12:22and our aspiring leaders must commit to be lifelong learners.
- 12:29Another thing I feel about leadership,
- 12:32it's a huge responsibility and humility and empathy
- 12:37are key to becoming a successful leader.
- 12:42So those would be some of my thoughts. Maria.
- 12:45Wonderful, wonderful. Thank you so much for those final thoughts, doctor.
- 12:49This has been an amazing and informative discussion. So I, again,
- 12:52I wanna thank you so much for coming on Becker's Healthcare and I look forward
- 12:55to connecting with you again soon.
- 12:57Thanks again for the opportunity. I appreciate it.
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