Latest / Best of Business / Nicola Willis: Finance Minister unveils steps to ease cost of living as Government outlines third quarterly priorities
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- 0:16Speaker 2: With us right now as Nicola Willius the Finance Minister. Evening, Niccola,
- 0:20Speaker 2: good evening, Heather. Now what are you in charge of
- 0:22Speaker 2: in terms of the New Action Plan?
- 0:25Speaker 3: Well, the rebuild the economy and ease the cost of
- 0:28Speaker 3: living section of the plan has a number of initiatives
- 0:32Speaker 3: in it, and is the Finance Minister. I take an
- 0:35Speaker 3: interest in many of those, and I'm also, of course
- 0:39Speaker 3: always in charge of delivering on our policy. So textically
- 0:43Speaker 3: from the thirty fifth of July, that'll be me.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Okay, so you've gone because you famously had the biggest
- 0:48Speaker 2: one in the last planned didn't Yeah, the budget? So
- 0:50Speaker 2: have you gone from the one?
- 0:52Speaker 1: It was?
- 0:52Speaker 2: It like overload Nicola in Q two and then rest
- 0:55Speaker 2: are a wee bit in Q.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Three now because we're already planning for next year's budget Heather,
- 1:01Speaker 3: and as we've said, it's going to be another tight one,
- 1:04Speaker 3: so we need to be looking right now where money
- 1:06Speaker 3: is not going to its best impact so we can
- 1:09Speaker 3: make good decisions on that. And I'm also very focused,
- 1:12Speaker 3: as you'll imagine on how we strengthen this economy and
- 1:15Speaker 3: get it growing faster. So I'm working with ministers across
- 1:19Speaker 3: government on what we can do to make it easier
- 1:22Speaker 3: for businesses to invest, to hire people to grow.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Number fifteen on the Listers initiate the second regulatory review
- 1:28Speaker 2: to identify and remove unnecessary red tape. Do you know
- 1:30Speaker 2: what that's going to be.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Into That has not been decided yet. The first one,
- 1:36Speaker 3: of course, is on early childhood education, where there are
- 1:39Speaker 3: lots of red tapes and early childhood centers that both
- 1:42Speaker 3: make that care more expensive and harder to deliver. And
- 1:46Speaker 3: I think that David Seymour will be making an announcement
- 1:49Speaker 3: about the second review shortly yet.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?
- 1:53Speaker 3: I do. I do know what it is, but I
- 1:55Speaker 3: don't feel a Sunday. You see, it's his review to
- 1:58Speaker 3: announce and I want him to have the fan fare
- 2:00Speaker 3: and celebration about it. But it's another area of life
- 2:03Speaker 3: where we've had complaints from people saying they're rules are ridiculous.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Is it in scaffold because I'm into that If it
- 2:09Speaker 2: does include scaffolding.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's no, it doesn't. But what we are doing in
- 2:15Speaker 3: the next three months is getting rid of the barriers
- 2:18Speaker 3: to oversee building products being used in New Zealand. So
- 2:21Speaker 3: that will make it cheaper for diires like you to
- 2:25Speaker 3: get the range of products and doing your house renovation.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem the scaffolding is when you can't do
- 2:30Speaker 2: it yourself. Hey, I'm fascinated by number sixteen. Take Cabinet
- 2:33Speaker 2: decisions on new regulations to remove the ge ban. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 2: had that been in there a few years ago, that
- 2:38Speaker 2: would have been such a hot potato. Do you think
- 2:41Speaker 2: it's going to be this time is just going to
- 2:42Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to just kind of float through?
- 2:45Speaker 3: Well? I think that New Zealanders understand that science has
- 2:49Speaker 3: moved on a huge amount and if we want to
- 2:53Speaker 3: be part of solutions for our climate issues and we
- 2:56Speaker 3: want to have smart food producers, we've got to get
- 2:59Speaker 3: the program and make safe use of Do you.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Think we've come around to it. I think we have.
- 3:06Speaker 3: The conversation has really changed from where it was a
- 3:09Speaker 3: decade or two ago. I remember the outrage about Helen
- 3:13Speaker 3: Clark and Cornngate, and that seems like a different era.
- 3:17Speaker 3: I think we're now in an era where people understand
- 3:20Speaker 3: the power of science. Of course, we have to safely
- 3:23Speaker 3: reflate these new techniques and technologies. That's appropriate, but other
- 3:27Speaker 3: countries all over the world are doing it and we're
- 3:29Speaker 3: well behind the April, so let's play catch up.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Are we doing an inquiry into what happened in whide One?
- 3:36Speaker 3: We will do a short sharp review. I was in
- 3:40Speaker 3: Hawk's Bay on Thursday and there are questions being asked
- 3:44Speaker 3: about how the river mouth and the bar we're managed
- 3:49Speaker 3: and whether or not that lead to the flooding being
- 3:51Speaker 3: worse than it might otherwise have been. So there's questions
- 3:54Speaker 3: for the regional Council and for the local council to
- 3:57Speaker 3: work through. And so yes, we will support a short
- 4:00Speaker 3: sharp review.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Yeah good now, Nicholas. If Hawks Bay Regional Council is
- 4:04Speaker 2: found to have been responsible for not clearing that bar
- 4:06Speaker 2: fast enough, that would be the second time in a
- 4:09Speaker 2: major event that they've let their communities down. So what
- 4:11Speaker 2: happens to them?
- 4:13Speaker 3: Well, this is why we want to first do this
- 4:16Speaker 3: short chart review. I know that Minister Mitchell lets the
- 4:19Speaker 3: regional Council know of that today and I don't want
- 4:22Speaker 3: to get ahead of that. But of course the purpose
- 4:25Speaker 3: of these things is to find out what happened and
- 4:27Speaker 3: how do we stop it happening, So that will be
- 4:29Speaker 3: a mark.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Mitchell has gone in contact with Hawks Bay Regional Council
- 4:32Speaker 2: told them there will be an inquiry.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Yes, and he's also been in touch with Wider Today
- 4:38Speaker 3: to let you know as well.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Okay, and you don't know what the potential ramifications could be. Frankly,
- 4:43Speaker 2: these people, if they are letting their communities down, like
- 4:46Speaker 2: literally lives were at risk in the Esque Valley, they
- 4:49Speaker 2: can't be entrusted to keep on actually looking after their communities.
- 4:52Speaker 2: We have to take the task off them, don't we.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Well, it's really important. I don't get ahead of it
- 4:57Speaker 3: because I don't understand the ins and outs of what's
- 5:00Speaker 3: happened here. I don't have the facts to hand. So
- 5:02Speaker 3: the first job is get the fact about what actually happened,
- 5:05Speaker 3: then understand if they were in the eras why those
- 5:08Speaker 3: error as a curve. Then understand what we need to
- 5:10Speaker 3: do so that they don't happen again in the future.
- 5:13Speaker 3: So short chat review, get to the fact of the matter,
- 5:15Speaker 3: and then actions from there.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, happy to here. Listen on the GPS.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Do we just need to bite the bullet and allow
- 5:20Speaker 2: them to charge patients more so they can make their
- 5:22Speaker 2: books balance.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Well in some cases GPS will do that. We put
- 5:27Speaker 3: in considerable funding in our budget for health and ring
- 5:31Speaker 3: sense to significant portion of that for primary health care.
- 5:35Speaker 3: So more than half a billion dollars in uplift and
- 5:38Speaker 3: funding for primary health care this year alone. So we
- 5:42Speaker 3: recognize that GPS provide a vital health service for many
- 5:46Speaker 3: of us. It's actually the only time we interact with.
- 5:48Speaker 2: The problem is okay, So the problem is they can
- 5:51Speaker 2: only raise their fees by as much as Health New
- 5:53Speaker 2: Zealand says they can, and at the moment what they
- 5:56Speaker 2: are able to charge, you know, the funding that they're
- 5:59Speaker 2: bringing in is about a quarter of or maybe half
- 6:02Speaker 2: of what they need. So they need to charge people
- 6:04Speaker 2: a whole lot more. Would you be open to that.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Well, that's something they're working through with Health New Zealand
- 6:09Speaker 3: right now. And of course it varies from community to
- 6:14Speaker 3: community and health user to health user. I think we
- 6:16Speaker 3: all recognize that there are some people who are more
- 6:19Speaker 3: able to pay than others, and so Health New Zealand
- 6:23Speaker 3: are working through what is the requirements that's currently in place,
- 6:27Speaker 3: How do we make sure that that's going to work
- 6:29Speaker 3: for GPS over the next twelve months and what does
- 6:32Speaker 3: that funding that bring them look like? So their active
- 6:35Speaker 3: discussions happening at the moment.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Why was Andrew McKenzie told to quit a KO.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I'm not sure that was the case.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Well, Simon Mota basically told us before that he sat
- 6:44Speaker 2: him down, told him to quit.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Well, obviously that's an employment matter. It's a matter between
- 6:49Speaker 3: that board chair and Andrew McKenzie. So you've been talking
- 6:53Speaker 3: to the right to some who has the ability to
- 6:55Speaker 3: comment on that and betail on that Simon, So I
- 6:57Speaker 3: heard him on this matter.
- 6:58Speaker 2: He had to say nice things about Andrew McKenzie though,
- 7:01Speaker 2: because like it's an employment matter and stuff. You don't
- 7:04Speaker 2: have to Nikol because you're a politician. So was he
- 7:06Speaker 2: not up to the job? Oh?
- 7:08Speaker 3: I have to be very careful at all times, heither,
- 7:11Speaker 3: because I don't employ Andrew McKenzie. The board does, and
- 7:15Speaker 3: I have to respect that and know my place.
- 7:18Speaker 2: No fair enough, Okay, did you watch the debate?
- 7:22Speaker 3: I watch parts of it, yes, And and as a
- 7:28Speaker 3: New Zealand government minister, I am most of you that
- 7:32Speaker 3: it's very important that Americans make their own decision about
- 7:35Speaker 3: who they wish to vote the president in the consideration
- 7:38Speaker 3: of who did wash on the debate and not a
- 7:41Speaker 3: matter for me.
- 7:42Speaker 2: You won't say out loud, he's obviously going senile.
- 7:46Speaker 3: I won't say that.
- 7:47Speaker 2: No, Okay, have you found any replacement fairies?
- 7:50Speaker 3: Yet? We have got options on the table, and as ministers,
- 7:57Speaker 3: we are considering those options. We want to replace the
- 8:01Speaker 3: fairies in a way sensible, that represents good value for money,
- 8:05Speaker 3: and that's better thought through than the last proposition, which
- 8:08Speaker 3: would resulted that were too big for the birds and
- 8:11Speaker 3: may not even have been able to negotiate the stray.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Actually, hey, that's not in the forty forty action plan
- 8:17Speaker 2: for the quarter. So when do we find out about
- 8:19Speaker 2: the fairies?
- 8:22Speaker 3: You'll find out about the series once ministers have made decisions,
- 8:25Speaker 3: and I expect that we'll be within the.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Quarter three months. I suppose we can live with it. Nickole,
- 8:31Speaker 2: I have you how are you going to meet with
- 8:32Speaker 2: the key we rail bosses in the next week.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Yes, we are hoping to get together this week. I'm
- 8:40Speaker 3: started sounding hesitant because I haven't actually seen whether my
- 8:43Speaker 3: office had landed the meeting time for There's lots of
- 8:46Speaker 3: ministers who are wanting to meet with a rout at
- 8:48Speaker 3: the same time.
- 8:49Speaker 2: All right, I hope it's early in the quarter that
- 8:51Speaker 2: we find out in Nickel are just saying, because I'm
- 8:53Speaker 2: here for the fairies by the way.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we understand and and we are keen to
- 8:58Speaker 3: get to a solution too, but really can also not
- 9:01Speaker 3: to repeat the mistakes of the past. We're arguably decisions
- 9:04Speaker 3: were rushed, but then the ramifications of which went thro
- 9:09Speaker 3: So we want to do it once and do it right.
- 9:10Speaker 2: All right, Nicholas, thank you so much, appreciate your time.
- 9:13Speaker 2: That's Nikola, willis the financing and stuff. Found it very
- 9:15Speaker 2: hard to hide my disappointment that I may have to
- 9:17Speaker 2: wait three months to find out what's happening with the fairies.
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