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Commanders vs 49ers NFL DFS Showdown | MNF Week 6 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. Toe Tag and Tambo,
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of Showdown Shippers, Monday Night Football
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  Speaker 2: edition here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station. Make
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  Speaker 2: sure to smash that thumbs up, subscribe to the channel.
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  Speaker 2: Got Hoop, got Title here with me as usual. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be breaking down all things Commanders at the 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: And before everyone says this game... is horrible and there's
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  Speaker 2: no way this team can beat this team and et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. I don't want to hear it. We just
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  Speaker 2: watched the Arizona Cardinals beat the Rams yesterday. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: the Bucks beat the Dallas Cowboys when that couldn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen the Broncos beat the Seahawks when that couldn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: I could go on, but the Rams one hoop has
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  Speaker 2: to be the craziest. I'll bring you in my friend.
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  Speaker 2: We still got one more game with week six ready
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  Speaker 2: to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of that this year
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  Speaker 1: where it looks like Team A has no chance against
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  Speaker 1: Team B, and then it happens. And there's two of
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  Speaker 1: them yesterday, even the Colts and the Titans. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams and Cardinals definitely take the cake. I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theorist, but man, it sure looked like
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  Speaker 1: the Rams were trying to lose that football game. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't do anything that made sense if they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: win the game. It was like almost everything was completely ass-backwards.
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  Speaker 1: They did not look like the same rams team like
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  Speaker 1: it was really really bad la tourable and um you
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  Speaker 1: know crushed a a lot of people for showdown and
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  Speaker 1: or not for showdowns for survivor contest number one and
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  Speaker 1: then crushed a lot of people that were sitting on
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  Speaker 1: a nice afternoon stack at a lot of teams that
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  Speaker 1: looking good in the afternoon game or in the morning
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  Speaker 1: games and then the afternoon hits and you're like all
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  Speaker 1: right i'm sitting on a ram stack got some cardinal
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  Speaker 1: bringbacks and Nothing really happened, ever. So it was pretty
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  Speaker 1: disappointing from that perspective. But you got a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: one here tonight, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to talk about with this one. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do it as usual when we get
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  Speaker 2: to it before I bring Title in. We are going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about, you know, the captain position. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to go down to roster construction, the composition for those lineups.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go position by position, a little fan duel at
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  Speaker 2: the end. But, Title, you're no stranger to big upsets.
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  Speaker 2: We saw, what, a minus 3,000 in MMA recently or
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  Speaker 2: something like that go down?
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff happens in these sports that we watch and these
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  Speaker 2: crazy games that we play. How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you couldn't have said it better. We
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  Speaker 3: talked about it with the Buccaneers-Cowboys game. And, like, toward
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  Speaker 3: the end, of course, it happened. But I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you look at the odds. NFL's efficient. It was 85%–
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  Speaker 3: or it was 80-20.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you see 20%.
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  Speaker 3: What the Rams was, they were minus 850, 89%. 89%
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  Speaker 3: means 11% on the other side. And, yeah, that happens sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, conspiracy, Ray,
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  Speaker 3: who knows? We'll never know. But upsets happen. These are
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  Speaker 3: grown men at the highest level playing against each other.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so today, whether you think commanders have no chance, well,
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  Speaker 3: they're a lot less favorites than the Ram just were yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see, minus 395 is 79.8%. Literally what we just had,
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  Speaker 3: it's Cowboys buck. So 20% of the time you will
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  Speaker 3: see the commanders win if you believe these odds are efficient.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited for this one. some injury news
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  Speaker 3: to talk about, no crossy merits, and obviously everyone's going
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  Speaker 3: to load up on San Fran. So excited to talk
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  Speaker 3: this one through.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: One of the craziest plays from that Rams game too,
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  Speaker 1: it just popped in my head and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: bring it up, was what were they, third and one
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  Speaker 1: or fourth and one? And they got all the weapons
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  Speaker 1: in the world. You got Kyron, you got Blake Corum,
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  Speaker 1: you got Hookah, you have Devontae Adams.
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  Speaker 2: They handed off.
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  Speaker 1: To their third string tight end and he gets absolutely...
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  Speaker 1: Stuff like that. That's when I knew that game was done. Like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, this is this. This is never going to
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  Speaker 1: get going. This game is dead on arrival.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, I posted to the even the app tried to
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  Speaker 2: speed it up after that bad first quarter. It's at
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  Speaker 2: halftime on ESPN and they tried to speed this thing up.
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  Speaker 2: But the Davis Allen one, I forget who the commentary was.
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  Speaker 2: when they said, you know, so-and-so, that sounds like a
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  Speaker 2: good idea on a Wednesday practice in the afternoon. But
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  Speaker 2: then when you're in a game and you go run
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  Speaker 2: it out there, he's like, Davis Allen's like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: could do that. Then it gets game time. No, I
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  Speaker 2: can't do that. That's not very good. That was bad execution.
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  Speaker 2: And Sixberg says, your eyes ain't lying. I'm just putting
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  Speaker 2: in an accent on this guy, Hoop. These games are
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  Speaker 2: far from organic these days. So you never know. Parabay,
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  Speaker 2: NBA streets are coming back. We appreciate you. Said the
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  Speaker 2: Rams were minus 1,000 when he got it. So minus
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  Speaker 2: three took them, and that's the only thing that sunk
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  Speaker 2: his parlay. Yeah, so wild stuff happening in the streets today.
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  Speaker 2: Title said it. There's already some injuries with this game.
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  Speaker 2: We are waiting on some news, and we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll bring it all up here in just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to bring it up quickly from yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: We had a huge day for the Ship It Nation community,
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  Speaker 2: and it impacts the upcoming week for Ship It Games
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  Speaker 2: and for the Golden Shipper and for anybody who's a
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  Speaker 2: member at Ship It Nation. If you're not, you can
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  Speaker 2: still get in at any time and become part of
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  Speaker 2: this fun. But first off, Max DeSoto, you guys can
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  Speaker 2: rebuttal it in a second. We talked about a little take-down, break-down,
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  Speaker 2: just a crazy sweat today. The cool part is though,
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  Speaker 2: he still came away with 52 K that he won
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  Speaker 2: off tickets. And then I loved his attitude and discipline
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  Speaker 2: this morning, right back in the discord saying, Hey, loaded
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  Speaker 2: up my contest for next week, 160 bucks right back
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  Speaker 2: at it. After winning 52 K said, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 2: figure it out when I want to treat myself, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to play normal even after winning 52 K.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you stay in the game. So shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Max. I know the Tucker beat was bad there,
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  Speaker 2: but it's, it's part of the game. It is what
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  Speaker 2: it is. Rick 10. Um, awesome story here. One 75,000
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  Speaker 2: yesterday is going to donate a $ 1, 500 ticket on November 1st,
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  Speaker 2: the week eight, uh, mid season main event with 1.5
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  Speaker 2: million up top. We'll talk about that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady is gray. I only seen his 50 K
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  Speaker 2: score in the five 55 face mask. We found them
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  Speaker 2: on the takedown breakdown, had another 150 K more for
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  Speaker 2: 200 K plus in the luxury box came second and
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  Speaker 2: fourth in that tournament.
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  Speaker 1: And T.
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  Speaker 2: Jones won the stiff arm. A lot of shippers. We
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  Speaker 2: don't always see that. First, first, first. Obviously, it was
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  Speaker 2: close for Max DeSoto, but a great week. But back
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  Speaker 2: to Rick 10 really quickly. The big deal here is
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  Speaker 2: in shipping games where we're giving away $ 50, 000 plus in
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  Speaker 2: cash and prizes, you have to win your way in.
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  Speaker 2: And the Golden Shipper rewards a Golden Shipper ticket to first, second,
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  Speaker 2: and third place out of the $ 4. 99 that play in it.
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  Speaker 2: Then the top 50 get in. Of the top 50,
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  Speaker 2: the top 10 play in an online final where the
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  Speaker 2: winner will ultimately get at least $ 12, 000 cash and prizes.
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  Speaker 2: But this week, just going back to Rick's message here,
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  Speaker 2: he said... would like to donate a ticket to the $ 1, 500
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  Speaker 2: on November 1st. So anybody who's a Ship It Nation member,
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  Speaker 2: anybody who gets in this week, tonight, you could get
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  Speaker 2: in today and get into this stuff. But the Golden
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  Speaker 2: Shipper this week, not only will the top three get
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  Speaker 2: a Golden Ship It ticket, but first place will win
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  Speaker 2: a $ 1, 500 ticket on behalf of Rick to play in
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  Speaker 2: the week eight mid-season main event with 1.5 million up top.
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  Speaker 2: And the prizes are crazy after that. It's like, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a mil or, 500, 400, 300, 250, 250.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of really big boy scores on
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  Speaker 2: the site over there. So check it out. Thanks to Rick.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate you, man. I think it's gonna be an
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  Speaker 2: awesome event this week. And that's what the community is
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  Speaker 2: all about. Boys, any thoughts there on the week that
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  Speaker 2: was Ship It Nation, the Billy Sweat, anything else?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I almost take a little blame. Literally six seconds
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  Speaker 3: before that Tucker touchdown, I pull up the contest online,
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  Speaker 3: pull up the 555, scrolling a bit. And I say
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  Speaker 3: out loud to my boys, the only thing he's fading
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  Speaker 3: is a trey tucker bomb literally seconds before that play
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  Speaker 3: snapped and of course you knew when the ball was
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  Speaker 3: in the air that it was trey tucker he's the
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  Speaker 3: only one that's down there and my heart all of
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  Speaker 3: our hearts just sunk for him um another one of
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  Speaker 3: my friends i played poker with and made him 50k
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  Speaker 3: on fan duel it i mean that's the game we
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  Speaker 3: play i won our member so that's obviously i'm cheering
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  Speaker 3: for really really sad there but then a couple minutes
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  Speaker 3: later i can't help but think uh how happy I
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  Speaker 3: am for whoever that was on the other side of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's the game we play. I was stone dust all day,
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  Speaker 3: so I wasn't cheering for much besides him up top.
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  Speaker 3: But phenomenal attitude, like you said. I mean, that takes discipline. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you took it probably better than mine, and
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  Speaker 3: mine was a lot less in week two just for
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  Speaker 3: a couple days. So, yeah, props to you. 50K is
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  Speaker 3: still an amazing, amazing score. So, yeah, I felt really bad, though.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. Hoop, did you see that? Were you following
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  Speaker 2: along with any of this stuff yesterday too? It was
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  Speaker 2: pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that team was up there forever. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: was in the contest. I think I had, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: 20 teams, but nothing that was in contention. So I
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  Speaker 1: was popping in and out, and it was up there
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  Speaker 1: for a while, and I didn't know exactly what the
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  Speaker 1: fade was or anything like that. But, yeah, I saw
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  Speaker 1: in Discord the tone changed after that touchdown. It's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: It's a game we play. all been there and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you got to put yourself in position and to, to,
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  Speaker 1: to win that, that sort of money and hope it
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: goes your way because like so many things can happen just,
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: you know, continue building strong lineups and you know, getting
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: yourself to that spot to potentially win is all you
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  Speaker 1: can do. Putting yourself in those positions as often as
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  Speaker 1: possible and hopefully closes something out one day big like that,
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  Speaker 1: but a good attitude after you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people would have taken it way worse.
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  Speaker 3: And when you think about it more, or sorry, when
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  Speaker 3: you just think about it more like, cause it's all
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  Speaker 3: into like how the things go. Like what if that
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  Speaker 3: Steelers game was in the afternoon and then it went
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  Speaker 3: to OT and then he got Bernard there. Like you
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: have to run so good to get up to that.
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  Speaker 3: And again, it's hard for the human brain. Cause you're like, how,
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  Speaker 3: how the timing goes in your segments. I always, that's,
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing I always think of in these scenarios.
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  Speaker 3: It's all sequential.
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  Speaker 1: And when things happen, like if Trey Tucker is, if
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  Speaker 1: they were in the new Eastern game and does that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he's the one trailing and then you
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  Speaker 1: need Bernard to, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Get to fit for 50 K like you feel way different.
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  Speaker 3: The human brain.
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  Speaker 1: That's the dirty part about the game. Once you get
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  Speaker 1: to the top and you're sitting there and you see
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  Speaker 1: I'm winning that million dollars, it changes, but it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you flip everything and then you never really are in
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  Speaker 1: the driver's seat in that, in that position. It's, it's
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  Speaker 1: tough to think about it like that mentally, but, You know,
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  Speaker 1: I always kind of try to.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Title said it's about human nature. I know people say,
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  Speaker 2: don't count your chickens till they hatch that type of thing.
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  Speaker 2: And you shouldn't, and you try not to, but when
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  Speaker 2: you're sitting up top with a million dollars and it's like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: you don't think about anything about the people behind you.
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  Speaker 2: You just think about yourself and you only think about
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  Speaker 2: what can hurt you. Tucker hurts you. But on the
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  Speaker 2: flip side of it, you don't, when you win, You
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  Speaker 2: also don't be like, oh, sucks for that guy in second.
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  Speaker 2: If he only had got that touchdown from this guy,
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  Speaker 2: he would have got, you're like, screw that, I won.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're the person up there, you got to
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  Speaker 2: remember too, I said this on the takedown breakdown this morning,
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  Speaker 2: it's like he had Rodgers and Jermie in that lineup,
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  Speaker 2: Jermie Bernard. And it's like, you needed the 55, like
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  Speaker 2: Bellman pointed out, you needed the 55 field goal which
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  Speaker 2: is fine, but Boswell had missed another one. So you
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  Speaker 2: get that. Then you get to OT. What if they
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  Speaker 2: don't get the ball and don't go down and score?
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  Speaker 2: And don't tell me like, who knows? Like they get
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  Speaker 2: the ball. I guess like, what if they don't score?
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  Speaker 2: My point being, you still need a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: to go your way to what title said. And so
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  Speaker 2: great run at it. Phenomenal job. And there, there he is.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out the Hoopster. Yeah, that was another thing I
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  Speaker 2: said too. Like Tyler said, when you see that ball
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  Speaker 2: in the air and you just know it's Tucker, and
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  Speaker 2: he did his Tucker thing too, by the way, which
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  Speaker 2: is like the little slide and run catch where you're like,
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  Speaker 2: is that good? So we're hoping it's not. But then
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  Speaker 2: what if Metcalf got the touchdown instead of Bernard at
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  Speaker 2: the end? He's sitting up there and probably stays up
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  Speaker 2: there because everybody had Bernard in front of him and
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  Speaker 2: nobody had Metcalf. So either way. congrats on his son's
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  Speaker 2: youtube love.
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  Speaker 1: That that's awesome but that's the that's you know prime
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  Speaker 1: example right there people see oh bernard's the the go-to
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  Speaker 1: popular play on the slate i don't want to play
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  Speaker 1: him i'm going to find somebody else like you got
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  Speaker 1: to dig deeper into these things and we talked about
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: it on the show like you aaron rogers been in
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  Speaker 1: the nfl for what 20 some years i mean and
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  Speaker 1: what's the one thing he always finds these little gadgety
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  Speaker 1: guys and he'll just go to him and go to
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  Speaker 1: him and go to him we talked about on the
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  Speaker 1: show what did he do yesterday He just went to
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  Speaker 1: him and he went to him and he kept going
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  Speaker 1: to him and he had this massive game. So it's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: like you got to dig into all these little situations
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  Speaker 1: and see what's right and wrong. It's a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fun game we play. I like this one from two
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  Speaker 2: tunes in the Olympics. The silver medalist is often more
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  Speaker 2: discounted than the bronze medals because silver thinks how close
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  Speaker 2: they were to gold. But bronze just thinks like I
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  Speaker 2: made the podium. Thank God. Like I've got something out
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  Speaker 2: of this.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. The difference that I mean, I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 2: some bronze medal winners out there that are still thinking
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  Speaker 2: about that one thing that happened that could have went
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  Speaker 2: their way and they get to the top. But certainly
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  Speaker 2: a good point for sure.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Hoop, give us your grand scheme overview for
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  Speaker 2: this one. We got the Commanders at the 49ers. I'll
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: bring it up on DFSOS.com just so we can have
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  Speaker 2: the news. If you guys want to check it out,
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: go to DFSOS.com, use code SHIPIT. But we will get
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  Speaker 2: the latest news on pretty much everyone, but you can
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: start it off. We got Evans, right, who we're expecting
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  Speaker 2: to play. Schefter was just on an interview recently and
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  Speaker 2: said that. Who else are we waiting on?
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  Speaker 1: Diggs?
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  Speaker 2: I think we're good.
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  Speaker 1: Evans and digs are definitely the big one. I expect
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  Speaker 1: Evans to play dig seems more, yeah, more questionable, but
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  Speaker 1: everyone kind of has him projected in. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably at this point, you know, assume that they're both in.
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  Speaker 1: And then if anything changes, we'd make the adjustments, but
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  Speaker 1: no Crosby, Crosby, is it Crosby merit?
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  Speaker 2: Is that Bill?
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  Speaker 1: We'll just call him. Bill is out. So that opens
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  Speaker 1: up some opportunity, obviously for Rashad white. And Austin Eckler
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  Speaker 1: is back in our lives. Not the same Austin Eckler
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  Speaker 1: as years ago, but he is he's playing tonight and
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  Speaker 1: he'll have a role and he has a legitimate projection
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  Speaker 1: on the slate. So, you know, just looking at it's
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: to like pass catching backs are the primary guys for
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  Speaker 1: the commanders tonight, which is definitely interesting. The 49ers look
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  Speaker 1: like what probably the best team in the NFL. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's some other ones there. The Chiefs are up there,
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  Speaker 1: but the 49ers been steady. And it's their, you know,
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  Speaker 1: main core of guys, you know, you got McCaffrey, Purdy, Evans, Kittle.
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  Speaker 1: It just adds, it just seems like a very stable situation,
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers offense. So, you know, in terms of DFS, like,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's, I think it's a good one, a
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: lot of different ways to go. And the one thing that,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: you know, has me excited is the two pass catching backs,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the primary running back is going to be
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Rashad White for, the commanders, and he's primarily a pass-catching guy.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: So I think that is an interesting dynamic for the slate,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: not only for him, but for Jaden Daniels. You have
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, that quarterback who came back, he's got the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: elbow thing, ran the ball nine times. I know that
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: was an overtime game against the Giants, but to see
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: him out running is good. And then it really doesn't
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: have a running back that he can hand it off
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: to 20 times. So I think boost Jaden Daniels as well,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: overall in terms of what we can expect from him tonight.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: He's got a pass catch, you know, a couple of
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: pass catching running backs. He ran it nine times. Like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that could have a big game. He
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: had him, you know, his best game in probably two
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: seasons last time out. Again, it was overtime, but I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: think he was there before overtime anyway. It really, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: don't think really the overtime situation boosted him all that much.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I think we have a, A pretty interesting game. You know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the 49ers down, you know, a lot of wide receivers.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: So you have to imagine it's going to be a
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: lot of McCaffrey, a lot of Evans, a lot of Kittle.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And who'd they bring in? Yeah, Brandon Cooks back, 4K flat.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So it's a dynamic slate. It's an interesting one.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Another piece of news that's still not even fully out
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: and updated yet, but it just came out that I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: saw on the, like, Google News or whatever you look
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: it up. They do have Christian Kirk likely to play now.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So before I wasn't thinking that was going to be
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the case, he's still an IR tag on DraftKings at 3K.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people are hoping for
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Brandon Cook's night or cowing or whoever they're cheering for.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: This could be the case as well. So we'll wait
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and see. But yeah, we'll know probably till lock to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: see if he's activated anyway or till inactives come out
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: or whatever to see what happens with that. But he's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: been on the off the 21 day list or whatever
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: since Thursday. And now it sounds like they could need
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: him tonight. So we'll have to wait and see. But Title,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: anything you want to add there to any of this
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: stuff before we hop into the captains?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely would not build teams right now. Like
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Jeremy McNichols, stone minimum, probably going to be up to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: the active roster behind Eckler and Rashad White. Probably gets
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: a couple snaps. Yeah, like you said with Christian Kirk.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, right now on DraftKings for receiving yards, all
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: they have on the 49ers side is Kittle, Evans, and McCaffrey.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: No one else. Because they don't really know what's going
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to go on right now. So see who's active. If
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: there's any more coach speak that comes up, about it
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the nice thing is on the 49ers side outside of
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Evans like all those wide receivers are really cheap so
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: if you have a lean there use check will also
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: be back today for the 49ers yeah I think it's
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: a slate you can leave a decent amount of money
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: though you obviously have Jaden Daniels and Christian McCaffrey Purdy
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: but and like Mike Evans Terry McLaurin can Antonio Williams
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: outscore them in a vacuum maybe George Kittle also up
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: there but I think there's enough value with guys that
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: are going to be on the field mixing around that
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you can't leave a little bit of money And then, yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Keelan Black. Like in closer games, McCaffrey's got a bulk
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: of the work. If it's 7, 14, 21 that the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Niners are up, I do expect to see a little
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: more Black there. So I think that's interesting as well.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: A lot of different options at running back today on
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: both sides.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Great slate if you want to try and win all
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the money. Just you might need a lot of different
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: lineups and outs to be able to get there. But, man,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: it's like this is wild. By the way, did you
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: meet Eckler when we were in Vegas yesterday?
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't. You guys did right before.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: You guys did it right before I got there. You
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: sent the picture. I didn't see him, but I know
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: big Marley did.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Big Marley got a picture with them. Our buddy
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: stat got a picture with them as well. It came
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: off the elevator and buddy was just right there. And
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: it was so from the booth to the backfield, he's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: back in the mix. We got Eckler rolling through.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Like you said, McNichols is something else to think about
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: when we get there, but yeah, Hoop, I'll start with
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you on the captains. I guess like title said, when
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you think about this slate and when you're going to build,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: we got to wait in actives, but I think the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: captain conversation can still be had in a pretty solid
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: way here because it's also like being declared George Kittle day.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of different times, whether Evans plays
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: or doesn't, that probably just would push them up. even
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: more didn't we have a slate like this last year
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: where kittle was 8k and everyone's like oh he's too
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: cheap it's way too cheap for george kittle and he
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: just got boosted to some massive captain ownership and then
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: didn't play well at all so anything could happen it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: totally new slate but give us your thoughts at captain hoop.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah so for me when i when i look
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: at this you know their slates were all really consolidated
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: condense it only pick a few guys probably a slate
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and again a lot of this could change like title
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: was saying depending on what we get with the the news,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: but as of now, I plan to spread it out
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. like I'm open to a lot of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: these guys up top like if play you know if
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you're building multiple lineups like I would want exposure to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: all the main Sam Fran guys they all have the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: ability to just absolutely go off and be the guy
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you need up top Purdy, McCaffrey, Evans, Kittle uh good
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: with all of them um you know I'd Personally, I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: think I like Purdy the best, and he's going to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: get some ownership, but he's looked so damn good this year,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like so, so, so good. And their team has looked good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Their projectors scored a lot of points. So he's probably
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: my favorite right now. I do agree with the Kittle stuff.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I love Kittle here, especially with them banged up at
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Kittle's looked great, and it seems like a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: big primetime guy gets up for these primetime game. So
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm good with him. I think Evans with the questionable
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: tag has a chance to maybe come down a little
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: bit in ownership, which would be good because when he plays,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he typically, as long as he stays healthy
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: during the game, because he has been known to leave games,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like he's, he's still got it. And that's been very
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: evident this season. And then Christian McCaffrey, if he's going
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to be the most popular, he's probably the one I'm
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: least excited about just because they're doing the right thing
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: with them and, and not, always giving him this full,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: massive workload. I mean, the workload has been so smart.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like I respect the hell out of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the 49ers for doing this because it's got to be
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: hard to do. But last week, 11 carries, three receptions,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: 15 for three the week before, 15 for four. It
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: appears that the limit for him is like 20 touches
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a game. And the reason he has been so valuable
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in fantasy over the last few years is the volume.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Like they would give him like 30 touches. Well, if
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he's going to get 20 or below, definitely less appealing
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: for sure. So if he's going to be the most popular,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: he's probably my least favorite of the main 49er guys,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like of the Purdy's, the Mike Evans and the Kittles
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of the world on the Washington side. You know, definitely
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: want some Jaden Daniels. Like I talked about not having
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a true running back that he can hand it off
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to 20 times. You know, both the main running backs
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: are going to be past catching primary running backs. So,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you know, factor that with the nine rush attempts last
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: time out. I really like Daniels up top. I'd be
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: fine getting some scary Terry up there. So I like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: all the main guys again, you know, just, kind of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: going through and seeing if there's any cheaper guys. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily think I love the cheap guys. I'd be
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: fine with Rashad White. We're showing what sort of– we're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: showing like 8% ownership for Rashad White. But if he
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: finds the box, if he scores a touchdown, he's a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: guy that could definitely pick up four or five catches
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and go along with it. So if he gets a touchdown,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: five catches, you're already sitting at 11 fantasy points. for
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a guy that's 6,600, you know, 50 yards. Now you're
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: almost at, you know, 16, 17 range. I think what
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: white is a guy to consider as well. So probably
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: stick them with all those main guys. I'll likely get
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: exposure to everyone. But like I said, the one I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: least excited about is definitely Christian McCaffrey, just because of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the limited workload, which is smart. They're five and oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they're rolling right now. I have to imagine that continues
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: on and I don't see any reason to change it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of my initial thoughts, but it'll be
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: more of a, spread it out sort of night for
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: me opposed to nailing down a few guys a couple.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: A couple good ones here we got the dad crew
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: so a good dad joke brock been pretty good over
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: here we'll see yeah that's a good one.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Ross we gotta say actually his title not now that
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you are officially a father you're more into the are
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you more into the dad jokes or still just too.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: My kids still can't even talk so like i gotta
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: wait yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: But it's just just the fact that you are a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: father you start to It just happens as soon as
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're a father. It doesn't matter.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It hasn't happened yet.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You know what, though? You can't even really read the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: cursive on that hat, so it says the Dad Club Collective.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Got good eyes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: You guys got to know. That's where I'm getting this from.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I can't come up with that in the shower title.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: That one you can't.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what hat you're going to wear.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: That one you can't.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We got the Dag Club here. Yeah, you got that? Okay,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: we got it. Another one is CMC Sneaky. Right now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: he's showing as the top captain. So we'll see. Now, look,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: people are a little gun-shy right now, even though I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: think everyone expects Evans to play, and I think he does.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I still think that's capping his ownership just a little bit,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: where it may not be correct. Meaning, once it's clear
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and he's good to go, as everyone expects... Everyone just
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: wants that leeway to say, oh, now I'm good to go,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: even though I feel like you're good right now anyway.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. It is Mike Evans. He also could
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: come back on the field and go right back off again,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the way he does stuff some games. But title, I'll
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: kick it over to you. I want to talk about
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: captain because when you have a slate like this, with
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: so many guys we said, and whoever it ends up being.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Somebody says it, Brandon cooks night. We don't know if
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk plays. I mean, he should be the slot
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: guy for Debo, but if Christian Kirk plays, maybe they
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: use him more and it cuts into cooks, but it
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: still could be cooked. So my point would be these
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: guys we're talking about are cowing 2,200, 3k for Kirk
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: 4k for, um, cooks on the other side, Antonio Williams, 4,200
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Berks 32, like waiting on digs news, all this stuff.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you are going to have to get captain, right? I
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: know that sounds so obvious. I'm just saying, but you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: got to be thinking about that when you're building it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: It's not like there's such a massive gap. We don't
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: have a B genre at Gibbs or some high price
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: up top and ownership. It's, it's going to be spread
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: out once we get to lock and you can kind
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of play whatever you want. You need that best captain
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: on the slate. Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think right now I'm kind of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: more condensed. I think it's mainly five guys for me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: The two on the, on Washington is Jaden Daniels and
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: then Rashad white. Jaden Daniels looked great last week. Man,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: he still has that burst and willingness to run. In
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: any game script, they could be down 14. They could
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: be down 20. He can be up at captain. You
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: can play him in so many different ways, which is
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the appealing part of him. You can play Jaden Daniels'
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: captain with just one pass catcher and then four San
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Fran people, two-four, and he can rush two touchdowns that way.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Rashad White, mainly just because he's the cheapest of the ones.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: When I get to the Niners, Purdy, CMC Mike Evans
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: kid like I'm not getting really contrarian there so he's
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: 6600 at flex 9900 captain that's a good discount from
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the other guys that I'm playing which is the main
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: appeal for him but also kind of game script it
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter if they're down 14 he's going to be
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: on the field he can catch passes out of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: backfield um his touchdown prop is let's see plus 110
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: which is the best on on um on the commanders
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Terry plus 215 Jaden plus 225 It's just too cheap
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: for his role, I think, or at least his expected role.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much they're going to roll out
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Austin Eckler more than last week, but still has to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: be capped. And then McNichols. So I think Rashad White
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: finally gets a great role, can catch the ball, can
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: get a touchdown. Great price. So I'm going to play
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: some of him at captain. And then, yeah, for the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Niners stuff, CMC is just a monster. He can get
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: it done in so many ways. Seven net point favorites
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: looks really good for him. 40, his receiving yards, over 40,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like he's favored to have. They're just going to dump
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: it and check it down to him a lot. Minus
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: 270 to score in a tier of his own. I'm
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: definitely playing a bunch of him. Kittle, Mike Evans. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: do think Mike Evans probably goes back in ownership due
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: to the game time decision, the scare and all that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: He was banged up. I mean, he's always banged up.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But last week, he had 29 DraftKings points. They just
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: continued to pepper Mike Evans, even if he's not 100%.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: If he's out there, Purdy loves him. And I'm definitely
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: have interest at 9,600. I don't like that 9% we
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: have could be like 7% or something. Kittle, I think,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: is a monster as well. Purdy is the one where
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: like if he's captain, it feels like what? He throws
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: one to McCaffrey, throws one to Kittle or Evans and
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: then like a random. And he definitely can spread it out.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But if like if it was last week, it's Mike
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Evans on the winner. McCaffrey on his days, it's McCaffrey
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: on the winner. I'm curious to hear your guys take
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: on the Purdy stuff because he's played great and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: like him. But then it's like, man, 19% owned. That's a,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I prefer CMC.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I don't fully believe it just yet. And I don't
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: know if I fully agree on the big Mike stuff
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: yet either. You could be very well, very well be right.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I just think like, man, the Q tag always holds
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: people off until it doesn't. And when, when people start
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: hearing about Kittle steaming and by the time we get
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to lock, they're like, you know what? Why would I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: play Kittle for 12, three? And I can just move
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: some of those shares to big Mike. He had 30
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: points last week almost or something. I just, but then
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that pulls from Purdy. It's all interconnected. I'm just saying,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I think you're, You're right. Where do you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Think it goes? You think Purdy goes back?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I think Purdy comes back for sure.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I could see McCaffrey going up a little bit. I mean,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: he is 11-8. It is the big price. People like
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to click it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about the sentiment right now, even in chat.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: People are already asking, would CMC be good leverage? Could
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: CMC be sneaky? I don't know if people are following
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it to say he's actually going to be owned. So
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it's really, really tricky. to get it right on the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: ownership percentages tonight without knowing all this stuff. But I'm
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: just trying to think about like human psychology and sentiment
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: around that. I think we're here. All I'm hearing at
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: least and seeing on X and posted and all this
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: stuff is kiddo, kiddo, kiddo, kiddo, like everything about kiddo,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: because he gets even better if somehow big Mike was
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: out and he's already in a great matchup and Washington
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: gives it up to tight ends. And he's only 12,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: three up top and gets you everything you want. So
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I do feel like he's coming up some, it could
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: be at the expense of big Mike, But it could
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: be both of them at the expense a little bit
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of Purdy first and then potentially. just mcafree stays where
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: he is because he still projects well and he's going
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to be up there no matter what i think.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Go ahead go ahead let's say one other name i
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: wanted to throw in the mix uh was a chig
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: if if digs is out i mean six targets uh
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: last game like he's got multiple touchdown upside he could
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: get six for 70 and a touchdown and he is
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: i mean what's the the price is very very cheap
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: he is 4600 up top yeah 69 up top like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: uh he could be you know wide receiver to him
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and antonio williams so like if digs is out i
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: i would expand it a little bit to some of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: those cheap commanders guys maybe playing from behind as well.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Go ahead title what'd you have.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask uh And I have no
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: clue what the answer is. Those people that you see
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: on Twitter that are talking, it feels like so many
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: of those are best ball people or people that just
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: like to just make their names known. How many 150-maxers
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: and stuff do you think care at all? How many
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: people are 150-max?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Not very many. Yeah. Good point there. I think, though,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the critical piece of that, though, is– nobody and that's
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: like i said that from the human psychology perspective nobody
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: likes um confirmation bias more than like somebody just like
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: they're looking for it from anywhere so it doesn't matter
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that it's actually a best ball conversation or a i
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: talk about it but i don't actually ever play one
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: thing you won't ever have a problem with at shiva
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: nation we all play the game we talk about but
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: just other places are not like that but i'm saying
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: i i do think the thought process around that is
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: just there's a bit more safety factor to Kittle tonight
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: because he's in a great spot no matter what and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: affordable at 12-3. He's not 14-4 like Mike or 16-17
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like Purdy and those guys, 15 like Daniels. He's only 12-3.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But then what if somehow there's more, like the GTD
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: just goes on and on and on all day and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: we don't get anything until inactives, then people probably stay
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: down on Big Mike. That's the difference.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree. I do think Big Mike stays...
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: stays or if anything goes back a little bit after that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: It's tough speaking of uh the lineups last night we
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: had two people split the the prize up top and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the 1v1 in the everybody that finished third lineup was
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: pickens for dac and by the way that's a lamb
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: captain so it was lamb captain it was pickens florinoy
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and then it was love golden and pierre strong and the.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: One golden the captain No surprise. Lamb was captain on the,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: on the optimal yesterday.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Crazy man.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We checked it earlier. I couldn't, I was thinking
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the same. I was like, forget the news of that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Like nobody played a quarterback in. And obviously that's why
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: two people shipped it as opposed to.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, golden could add 95 points. Holy moly.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: That was, he was, he was my, my best guy
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: last night that didn't come through in the end for
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: what we needed.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But it needs a nades pep talk to get in
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and get him going.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: You need something. And then Christian Watson too. I mean,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I know that was deflected a bit, but.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I know totally, but people ask this cause like, again,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: it goes back to the theory and we're talking about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: captains right now and the way it can all work.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Like look at the points Golden scored. But when you
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: have Flournoy and Strong, it's like conditional ownership that Blickle
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and I will talk about sometimes. Once you put those
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: two cheapies into the lineup together and they both do
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: enough on that late Flournoy touchdown or whatever, well, those
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: lineups just more likely have Lamb in the captain. He
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: did just enough. But 48.4K with a Lamb captain and
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Pickens in the flex, as opposed to 50K flat with
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Lamb captain and Prescott in the flex, all the rest
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: is the same.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: When you win, how much do you win? That's what
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we talk about.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Crazy, right? That's what people are talking about. It was
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: actually funny too, side note, but just if you guys
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: saw it, did you see the $ 20 Millie maker winner
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: yesterday had pennix naked?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, naked.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So I never, we don't, this is the fun and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: takedown breakdown and going through it all. But the lineup
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: everyone thinks he should have is with Jameis, right? Because
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: you've already got Neighbors and Likely in there. Like, why
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: would you not just have Jameis and you have Penix?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And so everyone says that and talks about it. Again,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: like you said, Tyne, a lot of people talk about it,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: but they ain't about it. They don't actually play, so
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they're just commenting on shit. You go look in his portfolio.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: He only played 17 lineups, and his second best lineup
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: was the flip-flop from Penix and Chiefstee, which won him
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: all the money. to Winston and Patriots D, which was
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the perfect 1v1, $ 100 up, $ 100 down. He played the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: lineup everyone's bitching at that he should have played. Could
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: have played. Couldn't have got Chiefs D into it. But
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: because they only see the winner up top with Penn State.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I just love how people are so critical of winning
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: lineups and like, oh, well, you played an early guy
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: in the flex. Well, guess what? The guy doesn't give
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a fuck because he won a million dollars.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? Exactly.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: You know all about that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to never do that shit. Now I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: do it because I don't care. I'm not going to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: go– I'm usually not late swapping. I just build teams
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and let them roll for the most part.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: You know about winning a milli too and people critiquing
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: your lineup.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, I played too many guys in one game. Well,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: guess what? They scored 90 fucking points in the game.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Of course you needed all those dudes.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: What was Hoop's criticism though?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: The 3-4?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: 3-4? Yeah, just you play too many in one game.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: You play four from one side and not their quarterback,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: but three from the other. By the way, I don't
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: know titles. You know this guy's name is Dave Alpha.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So he's a poker pro. I think his X account
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: says he has like 10 bracelets and one ring. His
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: hand in mob is like two milli. Like he's up there.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Who knows what ones he won and whatnot. But anyway,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's his username. So I'm not really outing him. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: his damn name on there. But he won the 555
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: milli with two entries. he played Jeremy Bernard versus the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Bucks D. And then in the other lineup, he hand
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: built to say, it looks like a hand build. His
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: second one, he played Kendrick Bourne for Jeremy Bernard, which
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the reason that's interesting is like he played the same
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: lineup and just swapped the one V one. He ended
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: up winning the Millie, but he jams this lineup. He
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: picks one of them. And he jams it in the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: luxury box. The $ 100 single entry plays one in the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: five max with power sweep. It's a five max, plays
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: one for 100K up top. Doesn't even play them both
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in everything else. Just plays them everywhere. Wins 1.6 million
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and a live final seat on top. of the 1.6
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: million total and the lineup he chose of the two
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: was the one with jeremy versus his defense as opposed
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: to born not thinking who gives a shit my point
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: especially on a guy like jeremy but think about when
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you are picking one to go everywhere you only have
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: two you'd think they'd pick the other one it was
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the difference in an additional 600k and a live final
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: seat just a hell of a day so so cool.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: He's got to be waking up feeling like the king
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: i mean in showdown the guy that would one of
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: those two chops he also shipped the 333 uh solo
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: for 100k too I'm assuming you're buying PGM, right? I
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: think so, yeah, with the same exact lineup.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: He's been around forever, crushing all different sports, but very– I.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Mean, no wonder why somebody lost money because a couple
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: people won all the cheese.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not– Yeah, the math is pretty easy to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: figure out after that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, waking up and, yeah, you feel like the freaking man.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: You are the man. Good for them.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants shiz. Yeah, well, because I want all of it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That's why. Definitely. Yeah, there's crazy stuff happens down the stretch,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: but we'll keep it moving. I'll say just quickly here,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: like one thing I like who brought it up earlier
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and I just saw something with it now. was if
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you are going to go with this other team, can
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: do stuff. Like, look, title won $ 117, 000 on the Super
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Bowl a couple years ago with a worthy 2-4. Worthy captain,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: another chief in the flex, and then four Eagles when
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the Eagles blew him out. So he can still play
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: in a blowout. We saw Lamb be the captain last
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: night when Golden already had tons of points and could
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: have had even more. I think Terry McLaurin, with or
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: without digs, tonight is still interesting. And what I love most,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I just found it when I was naming off those
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: captain prices and saying like, why people like Kittle, he's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: 300 bucks less than Kittle. So, and you can still
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: have Kittle in the flex, but it's like, he's, there's
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: no way that's, that's a number I feel accurate about.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: If he comes in at three to 5%, there's just
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: no chance really. And we might even get digs out.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So we'll, we'll see on that one. But I think
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: that is somewhat interesting as just a differentiator. I actually
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: don't have a lot of interest in too much on
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that side. Maybe, you know, McLaurin Daniels, just cause he's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: got legs and can move, look at the stone. He
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: can be a captain optimal. Maybe his number stays around
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: what it is, but in a game where the commanders
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: are in it, it's just, it's not as likely based
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: on look at the spread, the total, all the stuff
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: on the other side. But I do like all the regulars.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I don't have too much different to be honest on
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the 49ers. And I think like title said, I'll end
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: up being a little tighter at captain tonight and just
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: hoping to have more combinations of what is most likely
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to be the right captain. If you don't know who's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: most likely to be the right captain, you can use
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the stone. It tells you over 10,000 simulations. who pops
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: up the most. And when you're like, well, but it
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: could be Malik Turner night. He shows a 0.1. Well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: we don't even know he's 200 bucks. And my point being,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: it's just, I'm going to play the guys that we
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: actually think it can be. So the 49ers have like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: four of those guys, maybe a fifth. If you want
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to plug in one of these randoms, the other side
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: has one or two guys that we think, and that's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: where I'm going to stick to tonight. So it looks
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like a good slate just to try and stick to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that and see what happens after a title. Anything else
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you want to add?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: This guy I've been in here today asking about this too, man.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: But if it's George Kittle day, you should be in
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: good shape. If you got George Kittle and need 13 points,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: hopefully it works out, right? A lot of people in
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: DFS tonight are going to be hoping that as well.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: So hoop, anything else you want to add at the captain?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: If not, you know, Daniels in the flex, Purdy in
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: the flex is going to be very popular because the
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: captains were pairing up top are really going with them
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: outside of maybe McCaffrey. And then maybe, maybe it'll be
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a little lighter tonight because everyone saw people win without
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Dak last night. They try and get cute. But the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: one thing I will say is it was posted out
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: earlier since 2020, there's only been 1.29% of the time
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of all the showdown winners ever. that have had a
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: lineup like that was last night with no, with no,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: not just no quarterback in the flex that's happened. It's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: about with the alpha wide receiver with two more wide
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: receivers in the flex and get there. It just doesn't
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: happen very often. So like title says, not how often
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: you win. It was just what you win when you are.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It's not what you win. It's not how often you win.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: It's what you win when you are right. And that's
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the main thing is that's what happened last night.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: 162K.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: How pathetic are the Cowboys? I know we've done a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: lot of side talk, but just want to throw it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: They're just so pathetic. You have the absolute direct path
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to winning your division. You've got a dead quarterback. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: shouldn't joke about it, but a very ill quarterback that's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: out for the season and hurts. You have the Giants
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: lost their starting quarterback, and you have the Commanders. And
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you've got the Cowboys basically fully healthy and just get
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: their ass kicked. Like, just such a shitty organization.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Like, it's– I mean, we could talk about just for
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: a split second how the Eagles let a guy on
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: 36 hours of staying up. I mean, if I ever
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: stay up for that long, I mean, I'm seeing different things.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: To go out there and play an NFL game is
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: absolutely insane.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: That is crazy. Yeah, to me it's more like the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: doctors are telling you don't go to sleep because you've
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: got to make sure nothing happens. We're going to stick
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: with you or even like whatever the ruling is or
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: what they're saying. But then they're like, clear, good to go.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Play the game today. Like hallucinating. I mean, what are
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you doing?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: You get a concussion or you stand up and you're
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a little wobbly. All right, done for two weeks. You
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: have blood clots in your lungs. Stay awake. for as
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: long as you can and then go play in an
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: NFL game. Like how asked.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: In London when the time zones are already like, Oh
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: my gosh, I, whoever made.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: That decision should be absolutely can only 24 hours sleep
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: because of the time change. We tried to convince him
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: of something totally fake, but I don't know. That's, that's
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: definitely wild to me. It's unfortunate for Jalen hurts, obviously
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: just the key to that team and everything that they do.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And just as like fun to watch when he's at his,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you know, at his highest level, it's just, that's, something
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you can't be messing.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Around with yeah i wouldn't be surprised if they had
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: some inclination that there's something going on for you know
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: longer than this because they made those moves the dude
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: retired and then they traded the other offense like they
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: had in my eyes they had to have known that
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: there was something going on here prior to that game
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: because they made those moves out of nowhere like to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: me that's the only thing that makes sense but who
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: knows if we'll ever find out.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, so many, uh, today hoop that I got
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to get that tinfoil hat. Did you hear about the, uh,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the Andy Dalton denied them and said, I'm just going
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to stick. He must've knew about those doctors over there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: And he said, no, no, no. I messed with that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'll play for the Falcons instead of the Eagles. Forget this.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I'll go over there.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It's all starting to make sense. No.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Last one though.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Title.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe you saw this time.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Hoop.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: You probably saw it too, but you guys both being
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: in the survivor streets, the grandissimo.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Uh, Oh my gosh.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: The 100K entry buy-in fee that was down.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: The value had to be 533 or something.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: 535.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: 500 something.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Now, the only, it's not really fair or still right.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the note. He had the Rams. but
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: he said he was, he did come on before the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: game starter. Like as the game started saying he's taking
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the Rams.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I wonder if he's taking legal action. I wonder how it,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: he might've got the nuts scenario. He might've been bounce
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: if the proxy did it right. And I was still
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: win a lawsuit. I don't know how, how it's all
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: going to go down, but something.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: He won't even say though. That's pretty crazy. Like why not?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Well, that's probably because he's the probably things are going,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, 535 K that's, that's not, that's there's things
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: going on right there. And that's the tough part about
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that is, what if someone in that contest pays that
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: proxy 20 K to not put in the pick? Like,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you never know what's going on. So when it's 500
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: something thousand, these people are smart if you're entering or
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: they got money. I don't know. There's probably things going
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: on behind the scenes right now that, that no one knows.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: It's pretty wild. That was like when the, they were
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: doing the a hundred K circa draft and everyone saw
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the board and was like, someone let loan me a
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: hundred K so I can get in this next year.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: It looked terrible.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: That you from all players across the board, you can
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: critique like they don't care. They're there for the, what
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the lady tell me in title and Marley. She's like, yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: one night buddy ordered two of these and it was
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: like 150 K whatever. Remember the menu at circus swim.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And it was like the big, it was like, like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: 10 bottles of Dom and a bunch of other random shit.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even that good. It was like nothing, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: they charge 150 K for it or something. And they're like, yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: one night buddy just rented the place out and bought
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: two of these. Like, yeah, that's got more money than
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: brains most likely, but is what it is. Enjoy your life.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: All right. Back to it. Hoop, anything else you want
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to talk about at the quarterback position? Purdy, Daniels, any
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: of this stuff?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Not too much for me. Both obviously good plays, high upside.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: In the flex, you're going to want as much as
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you can get. Again, you can look at the optimal rates.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: The optimal rates are going to have these guys at
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: a fairly high number. Nothing more to really add.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: This is, yeah, Nick was with us. 100K, it was 100K,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: but you have to get it sprayed on you. That's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the deal. So not only do you got to overpay
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: for all this shit, you have to let them douse
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: you in it and just burn your eyes out and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. But this is another one. More tinfoil
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: in that game yesterday.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Hoop?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Kyron got benched. What about Coram? Coram, did you see that?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: This is total tin ball. I'm not this guy. I
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: don't even care. And I had, I actually had a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff on Coram because I talked about on
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: leverage lane, but he got stopped at eight carries and
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: 42 yards with five minutes and 56 seconds left in
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the third quarter. Never played again. The rest of that game,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: just cruising along and his numbers were eight and a
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: half and 42 and a half. That's crazy. It's random.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: There's something, I don't know. There's something so weird about
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that game. Just right from the beginning. It just, it,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it was off. It just seemed very, very straight.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Commanders will win. Shit is rigged.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If we're going full conspiracy theory this week, build teams,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: build teams for the commanders. When right. Could happen. Yeah. Title.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'll take it over to you. Just any, any thoughts?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, with the, the guys up top, Evans, Kittle,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: et cetera, Purdy's in the flex. I guess the bigger
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: question for me is on Daniel's. Like, let's say you're
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: running a five, one, uh, kid a lineup do you
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: want day you can afford daniels do you want them
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: or are you thinking like hey i'd rather drop down
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: and get a pass catcher you know how are you
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: handling the quarterback position in the flex from that type
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: of perspective.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah i still want a lot of jayden daniels there's
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: so many outcomes where no like their offense struggles right
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: on 21 nothing at half or whatever and then he
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: breaks off a 40 yard run or gets a qb
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: sneak and he doesn't carry anyone with them because it's
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: spread out like they're mixing receivers different running backs in
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: but 12 was enough on the Washington side, even at
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: that price, probably not the most likely outcome. If I
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: knew he had 12, I'd have zero, but I still
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: am good with Jane Daniels and five ones in anything
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: due to his, his legs.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And I think also too, there's something to be said
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: just for, you know, my two cents to finalize the
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback stuff is that, um, without, I mean, you can
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: call whoever you want over there, a running back, but
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: he could also be like the running back, the quarterback
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and everything all in one and just doing everything. So, uh,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: him in the flex, leaving money, whatever you got to do,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: like even in a five, one, something like that. I'm,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I'm more than fine with it for this slate specifically. So,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: all right, let's go to running back title. I'll kick
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: it to you. We had a little bit of a
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: conversation around McCaffrey. You mentioned Kalen black. Well, you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: we got Eckler on the other side, talk about Jeremy McNichols.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: We'll wait on it. The stone man. Like we, we
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: do have, a bunch of running backs on this slate,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: much like wide receiver.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I'll start with the Washington side because are they going
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: to call up Jeremy McNichols? It's a pretty big question.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: $ 200 a man. I was tilted yesterday. Savion had way
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: so much Savion and it was such a good play.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And then Pierre strong outscores them, but he was stone men.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Now we have another stone men play player. That's going to,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: if he is called up, he's going to rotate in
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Even if he gets two, three points,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: is that enough? I don't know. I do like Rashad white.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: quite a bit. I think the price is too cheap
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: for his role. And then Austin Eckler as well. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, we saw it last, what was it? Monday
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: or one of those last days we were talking about,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: can you play these two running backs together? They were
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: in the winning lineup. Who was it? Showdown.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Was it Denver?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dobbins and Harvey.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Dobbins and Harvey.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: We're both there, which was another, whoever won first, they
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: won a good amount of money. It wasn't chopped too much.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I do think Rashad White and Austin Eckler could be
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: ones that you play in the flex as well. Again,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: if they're trailing dump-offs, if the 49ers get a lot
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: of pressure, both these guys can get there at that
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: price tag. So I think both are interesting. And then
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: if Jeremy McNichols play, I like these Washington running backs
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: quite a bit at their price, which then when we
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: go to, So receivers, I think you're going to see,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like the price tags as much at wide receivers.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: So especially because I am wanting so many of these
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: San Fran studs, it's a little harder to play Terry
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: and Diggs and all of that. And I can go
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: any Terry Diggs team and just play Rashad White. And
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: you see our projection 13.9 for White, 11.8 for Terry, 9.2
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: for Diggs. So you're saving thousands of dollars and getting
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: a better projection. Obviously their ownership will be higher because
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: of it, but I have more flexibility to get different.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: On the San Fran side, it's just two guys. It's
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey and Black. You can also play them together. Again,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey and Black. dominates early. They get out to a
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: big lead. Black comes in later, but I do want
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: a decent amount of Caelan Black. Again, Hoops talked about it.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: The first two games, it was really, not really close,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: but it was relatively close in terms of snap share.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: The last three weeks, McCaffrey's separated a little bit. I
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: do think because that overseas game week one played a role,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: but if they get out 14 or they have a
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: comfortable enough lead, you are going to see black play
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: a decent bit. So I think that's a good price
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: at 3,800. See what his TD prop is. Not as
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: good as I thought plus 400, but again, when you
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: build those teams, I think it should tell more of
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: a story that they're leading the game. So yeah, that's
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: all I got to run it back.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like Sticksburg says this, like just 25 yards allowed.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And then LSU, Nick said, yeah, Darnold, Nick's percent, Willis
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and Stafford. The quarterback is like who brought this up
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a lot in the past couple of weeks looking at
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: this type of stuff. And it's, you know, who would
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: have thought that the Rams would lose the game without
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: giving up a touchdown? Like what happened before any other
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: time or all this other crazy stuff? Like just other
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: stuff can happen. It's a guy that can run and
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: can get loose. And like you said, like Nick said,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: he hasn't really played a lot of guys in that spot.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: So who about kicking over to you running back? Anything
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: else you want to add there?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing really to add. I really like the Washington guys.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I really like Rashad White and Austin Eckler. And, you know,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: on the Sam Fran side, like, I don't know, I
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: guess maybe I'm just a little down on McCaffrey because
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of the workload. Yeah, I mean, it is tough. But, man,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like I could see myself being a little underweight on
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey tonight. And then with Black, like, he's in there
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and he's getting carries, but it's like, he's got to
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: find the end zone really to, to pay it off.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, he really hasn't had a big game yet
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: this season. Now it obviously could happen at any point,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: but fantasy points the last four weeks, 2.5, 1.7, 1.3, 1.6.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: It's pretty much touchdown or bus for him. And I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: don't think he scored a touchdown this year. Was it,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: did he score the first week? Um, He did not
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: score a touchdown in week one. So he's no touchdowns
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: this year. He'd need to me like he needs a touchdown.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: So let me just, I'll just rank these guys considering
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: salary and ownership, white Eckler McCaffrey, then black on those four. Yeah.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I think another thing too, that, um, title brought up,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I don't have too much else to add at the
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: running back stuff, but I would say a couple notes, one, like, uh,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: not even a running back, but just a $ 200 guy
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: yesterday savvy on Williams. Cause we're talking about McNichols and
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: he ends up playing did well, still not anywhere. Um,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: we talk about Florida, Pierre strong, like the other for
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: cheap running backs, like an Eckler or a Kalen black
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: or anything, even when they have the big game, it's
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: in the flex. So like, I know like a lot
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of people, I'm just tying together two conversations, our earlier
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: captain one in this it's like crazy stuff. can happen
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and you still have to still have the proper construction
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: elsewhere so it's like when people say oh i'll just
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: go to that it capped it if i knew sky
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: was gonna have this game i'll just jam in all
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the studs well then all the studs aren't needed as
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact the lamb who had a horrible
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: game versus reality and two cheapies got there but it
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: just ends up being the build that way so i
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: would still try and build accordingly without trying to get
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: too cute cute you know, you can say what you
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: want about it, but like the guy taking Dak out
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: and putting in pickings and hoping that works out, at
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: least you win all the money when you win, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's not that crazy. Their projection would have
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: been similar. It's just not similar to play a captain
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: like lamb without his quarterback. So that's kind of where
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: you get different, but playing the cheapest guys up top
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: and hoping that you get perfect on all the rest
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: and then still end up somewhere different. That's like in
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a unique way. It's not very common. So just think
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: about that when you're putting it out there. wait and
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: see if, if McNichols is 200 bucks, like, yeah, that
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: end plays, that's definitely something.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: There's been a couple of comments about this, about McCaffrey's workload.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: And it's a clear, it's a clear thing that they're
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: going to continue. I mean, he hasn't had more than
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: 20 touches this season. Like there's a reason for it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Like he's had injuries in the past. Like they are
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: clearly limiting him even in, in closer sort of games,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I think. So I would anticipate 20 touches or below that,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: For McCaffrey, he's great. He can still get there. But again,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the reason he's been like the stud the past few
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: years is because they would give him 30 touches. He
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: would absolutely go off. He had the chance to go
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: off without scoring a touchdown because he'd catch 10 passes
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: for 90 yards and then run for another 80. So
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I think they're clearly trying to limit him early on
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: in the season, and it makes sense. And I was referring,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: we were talking about Black.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Not we're talking about people saying they want to just
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: because of the McCaffrey limited carries that we would want
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to play black, especially if they get up in the
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: game or whatever it might be, look at the spread,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: all that again, those are when you build your lineup
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: accordingly to how the slate's going to play out. Peter
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: says it's best here. Peter Porker, love that. And the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Spider-Man outfit says McCaffrey gets about 15 to 18. They're
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: resting him earlier in the season. Watch, as soon as
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I type that, he gets 30 touches. That is what
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: ends up happening. Brock Bauer's day yesterday, quite disrupted by
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Michael Mayer day, and it's not even Halloween yet. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: what do you have, six for 97 before Brock even
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: had a catch? Maybe it was crazy.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I'll say there is a 0% chance McCaffrey has 30
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: touches tonight, even in an overtime game.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Don't ever say zero.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Zero. I'm saying zero.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're unlikely to get 30, but he's being sarcastic
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: as well. I mean, the point is when people are
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: saying 16, 20, I guess the big thing is too,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I hear this a lot when people are
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: using their optimizers, even our partnership, when they got to say, oh,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: SaberSim gave me this. Well, if you inputted the projections
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: that have this, and that's what we're seeing, you can
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: use that and go with it, but you're allowed to
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: adjust them. Like if you know better, like they say, IKB,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I know better, or some say, I know ball. If
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you want to put your spin on it and drop
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey down from 22 fantasy points to 17, and you
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: want to give a couple to Kalen Black and you
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: want to give, you know, a couple to between Mike
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Evans and Kittle and Cooks or whatever you decide, you're
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: allowed to do that. And then you will get more
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: unique lineups and it will no longer give you high
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: ownership on McCaffrey. But then you could be mad. What
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: was the one last year? We'll never live down hoop.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: It was like MBS. You're like, uh, him and it's
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: like oh man what's gonna be like 48 of this
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: guy you're like i definitely don't want that and yeah
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: no the truth was you didn't want that much but
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: people are like damn i should have just trusted it
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: because then he goes off with.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: It yeah you know it is important though to put
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: your i mean i think it's always important to put
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: your input put your touch on it if you think
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: something's gonna happen that the projections are picking up go
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: for it the odds of winning are very slim anyway
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: so like you might as well if you're going down
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you might as well go down swinging with your own stuff.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly really hard to make your own projections
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: that are good and have success and people win millions
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: of dollars with and all this stuff. That's really hard.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: But when you start with a good set and you've
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: got it already, when you say, listen, I don't care what,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: title says, or, you know, I don't care what Tambo says.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm a title. I think Mike Evans is going to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: go down to six or seven. I'm going to put that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: And that's going to be what you're running off of now. And,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: and I don't care what hoop says. I think McCaffrey
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: is going to be great tonight. He's going to get
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: 25 points and I'm going to put that. We'll do that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: You're allowed to, right? We want you to find your
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: own process and put it together. We're talking about how
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: things can play out in the right way to build
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: and to be able to put yourself in the position
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to hopefully ship one of these big ones. And if
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: you saw the top of the show, the people from yesterday,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: it's happening a lot. It's not a, you know, fly
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: by night thing. We've been here for three and a
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: half plus years. Lots of people are finding success using these.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Use that to your advantage. If you've got a better
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: take on it, add it into the mix before you
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: build and finalize. All right, title. I'm going to kick
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: it over to you at wide receiver. We know what
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: we're waiting on. We know there's possibilities here. Diggs, Evans,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk, you know, another thing there. So there's a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: lot going on at wide receiver tonight too.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. Diggs news is for sure important. If
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: he's out, I mean, Traylon Burks led the receiving room
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: last week in snaps. Then it went Antonio Williams, then
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Scary Terry, then Demi Brown. I'm going to play all
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: of them probably regardless, even if Diggs is in. If
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Diggs is in, he's my least favorite. I mean, that's
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: a big boy price tag. He will be low owned
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: when I will play him. It'll be in a lot
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: chalkier lineups, probably in shade of Daniel Captain's teams to
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: get different. But he's by far my least favorite. My favorite,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Antonio Williams, for sure, at 4,200. the rookie gadget guy.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I think as the weeks go, we've seen it with
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Bernard Amari Cooper yesterday for the jets. These rookies tend
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: to get better, especially at the receiver position, get more
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: trust from their quarterback. And it's the price tag. Again,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be playing these studs at captain. So
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I need to save money. So Antonio Williams, my favorite.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And then to be honest, probably trailing Berks and Demi Brown,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: their single digit ownership, even if digs plays, they're going
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: to be in a little bit and I need salary relief.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: So I like those two, a decent bit. And then, yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like Terry more than digs, but probably
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: will be underway. Do prefer Terry and flex more than
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: the captain. I know you, you might disagree. I just,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: I struggled to see his 25 point outbreak. And I
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: think you probably need something like that. If not more
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: today at captain with how I expect the 49ers to
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: move the ball and score implied for 30 points on
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: the 49ers side. Again, Mike Evans news is important. I'm
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: going to be in on Mike Evans though. The dude
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: battles injuries his whole career. I battled it last week.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: And when he's in, he plays. He gets pepper with targets.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: He's minus 120 to score the second best touchdown prop
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: in this game. And they definitely love him down below. Also,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I think his captain ownership can moonwalk back. And I
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: think his flex could as well. And I think he's
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: the most leverage from McCaffrey because if McCaffrey is not
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: getting the goal line touchdowns, it's either Kittle or Mike.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: And now that they have Mike out there when he's
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: on an Island, it's kind of like Devante and stuff
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: that slant fade routes pretty good. So after that, give
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: me value, give me cooks, give me cow wing. Um,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: those two mainly, like, I don't know, I'm not really
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: sure how much this Watkins guy is going to get in.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: He played 22 snaps last week, but it did seem
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: pretty obvious that Cowling was above him. A little Watkins
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: is fine, though. But, yeah, Cooks. I like Brandon Cooks
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: a decent bit today. With all that being said, now, yeah,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: the Christian Kirk stuff. Oh, man. I mean, I'm going
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: to have to play some of him at 3K, too. Again,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't have him initially in before this show.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: So, shoot.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Watkins definitely goes way down. Cooks, Cowling, Kirk. I don't know.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Do you guys have any, have any takes there? I mean,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: we saw cooks and cowing play last week. Maybe they ease,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: ease Kirk in a little more at three K. I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: could be wrong though. I wish I had props.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, but I do think what's critical is like, again,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: you never want to rule yourself out, but I think he's,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: he would be eating into cooks in that slot role
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: with out. So it's like, to me, what's the world
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: where both of those guys get there together and just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: rack it up over the middle. Like, man, that'd have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: to be, I don't even know what type of game.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I don't love them together.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be hard to play them together.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And at 3K, 4K, you can kind of just rotate
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: that in and out. So we'll see, but you'd think
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: that Kirk would be eased in at least a little bit.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: He just came off the window Thursday. So we'll see
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: what that looks like. Hoop, you got anything you want
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: to add there? Anything else you got now you can
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: take over wide receiver?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the most news-dependent position on the slate, wide receiver.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think you know, Mike Evans does
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: play the questionable tag and the price tag. I think we'll,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: we'll keep his ownership in check in flex and captain
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: kind of what, uh, you know, title alluded to. I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: think it's so true. And it's somewhat uncomfortable. I mean,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: he's 9,600, like he's right there with the quarterbacks. He's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: close with, uh, McCaffrey. So I think it has to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: be held in check for Evans. I think he's phenomenal
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: play on the slate up top and in the flex. Um,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: After that for San Fran, it's a little dicey, especially
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: if Kirk comes back. But these are guys that if
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: you're playing a lot of pretty captain teams, these are
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: guys you're going to want exposure to because if you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: aren't playing pretty captain, you want them to spread it out.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: So you're going to want to play some Cooks and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Cowling and Kirk as well. What's the– Kirk's what, three? Yeah,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: it's three Ks. Not like a full-on punt sort of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: price tag. On the Washington side, definitely need to see
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Diggs. Everyone has Diggs projected in.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: If for some reason he's out, Antonio Williams, Trelon Burks,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: their projection number is coming way, way up. And then
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of how quickly does the field
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: react to it all. And it's usually slower than they should.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Like the field, whenever we get the, not slate changing,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: but like a big wide receiver two ruled out or
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one ruled out. And then the secondary guys
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: get these big boosts. Like the ownership never gets to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that crazy amount because a lot of people build stuff
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: they like and they just stick with it. So I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: think it'd be a good opportunity on Williams and Traylon Burks,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: assuming Williams We don't get the news right until the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: hour and a half before, and then he is out.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: If he's in, nothing really changes there, and I don't
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: like him either. He's got a real price tag. He
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: has to do something big time at $ 8, 400, and I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be all that interested in him. I'd still prefer
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: those other cheap guys, but it is the spot where
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: we need We're going to need a little more news
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: to hammer it all down. And like we kind of said,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: you definitely want to wait to build lineups today because
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Diggs might go. I mean, the latest– I think
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: he probably plays, yeah. He was limited on Friday and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: then back at practice Saturday. So people are starting to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: think that he's going to go. So we'll wait and see.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: But I still like how title broke it down before
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: in your additions. Like, again, Williams, Burks, we kind of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: know what's going on there. The other side, Cooks versus
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Cooks versus Kirk. We'll wait and see if Kirk even goes.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: He could still be ruled inactive. We'll see once we
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: get closer to Locke. So we won't know that until
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: we get there. But if he's out, then it opens
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: up even more. I think Evans is in. So it'd
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: be like Evans, Cooks, Cowing at that point, the majority
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: for me, and then move it around from there. Let's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: go to tight end title and we'll start with the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Kittle conversation. But Chig, who brought up earlier, is on
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the other side. And then somebody else said, we'll wait
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: for the Luke Farrell. Or some might say Luke Farrell.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he scores a touchdown tonight, but Kittle
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: is definitely the popular one here.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for a good reason. I don't plan
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: on having too strong. I mean, it's really hard to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: go really, really overweight. You're almost like 80% plus with
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: them with the ownership, but I definitely don't want to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: take a strong underweight stand. I think that's pretty good.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: I want him in both spots. Chig, yeah, more of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: a flex play for me. I was hoping he, like,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: he's been on the field quite a bit, 71% last time,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: and With Diggs coming back, maybe a little more target
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: share is gone. His receiving prop is only like 21
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: and a half, though, which was a little disappointing for me.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: But I'll be playing him.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: That's a bet. That's a bet. There you go. What's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the bet? The over.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: He wants the over receiving yards.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chig over. 21 is the number?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought that was going to be for the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: first quarter.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Bookmaker hoop is always good.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: The last guy we did this to got hurt, though. Actually,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it was the 49ers guy that got hurt right away. Remember?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: He was dribbling literally first game. Yeah, it was. I remember.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Too much. 25 plus is minus 111. Sounds a little off.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: That's a lock. That's a lock.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: There you go. Luke Farrell, though, yeah. I mean, I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: think he's going to be a couple percent owned. He's
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: on the field 60% of the time. More of a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: blocking guy. But, you know, when they get to the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: red zone, random stuff can happen. Maybe four points is enough.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: There's enough studs on this slate that I think it
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: could be a stars and scrubs build where maybe four
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: is enough there. We haven't seen in a long time though,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: but that's really just 40 plus teams you're making to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: get different. Most people here aren't doing that. So you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about him.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this before I moved to hoop
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: on the tight end stuff. How much do you just
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: start thinking the more we talk through this site, that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: it's like one of those nice, Nice casino lottery pulls
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: on the old slot machine tonight. And we're just going
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: to build the best lineups to have the chance at winning.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: And then just be like, whatever happens, happens. Because I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: really think it's just going to come down to the captain.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: It always does. I get what people say, but when
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I say it like that, just so people know it's,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: it's not the obvious statement of like, yes, you have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: to get the right captain. The point is how did
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: lamb end up as the winning captain last night in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: a lineup that still pays out over 150 K. That's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: what I'm thinking about. So what I'm saying is if
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: you can get after that, how the hell would you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: know right now if like Luke Farrell jams in instead
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: of Kalen Black or if it's use check instead of it? Like, man,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: it's just going to be so random at that point.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: I think you need to set yourself up for success
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: with good builds. captain pool. It's a little bit tighter.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe again, some might say I'd spread it out for
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: that reason. I actually think there's so many flex options here.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I explained already on this show. Why, uh, even when
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: you think like Sav Williams or, uh, you know, who's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the other guys, Pierre strong, like they're going to have
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: these big games. Yeah, they are, but they're still not
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: going to end up up top very often. In matter
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: of fact, a guy like golden doesn't even end up
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: in the top and crushes. So weird shit happens. My
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: point being if you really know that and people, I'm
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: going to spread it out to a million different captains.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, then it gets tricky to have the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: combination even possibly to be in the, in the chamber
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: for yourself. So I think that's what I'm thinking about.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't tell you, are you thinking the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: same or what?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Especially like, I feel good that it's going to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: probably be, and again, definitely could be wrong, but I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: feel good about like five captains and it's kind of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: obvious captains, but at least they're not like Bijan range
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: or something. They're all kind of eating into each other.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: And then there's a lot of, Dylan Burks, Antonio Williams,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Rashad White, Eckler. I guess Rashad White I shouldn't have
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: threw in there. But there's enough 3K, 4K, just a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: lot of roulette stuff going on there where I feel
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: good about just mixing and matching those a lot more.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: And then certain builds. Who's my captain? Jaden Daniels is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: my captain. All right, the Burks and Antonio Williams makes
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: a little more sense in those builds. So based on
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: what I'm doing at captain, I feel good about that spot.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: And then I can try and tell a better story
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: in my flex while still leaving Usually probably a decent
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: bit of money because I do think there's enough cheap
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: options that are going to be on the field and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: have the opportunity to do something. That receiver position is really,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: really tough, but I think... It's going to determine the slate.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Like what you said, the.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Popular captains don't matter as much when the flex options
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: are abundant. Like there's so many of them for a
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: regular showdown. It's like people always say, Oh, I do
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: better in showdown. Yeah. There's one game and a much
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: smaller pool to choose from, but tonight is different. It's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: not like these guys that are all just so obvious
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: and this, that, and the other, you still got to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: build it accordingly, leave certain money, whatever it might be
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: to put yourself in that position. I won't delete. I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: call it delete. I won't X out like the 1%
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: on captains. I get, but I'm saying my core is,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: five to six captains will be owned in a decent share.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: And to title's point, nobody's getting like the 40% or
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: 35% captain ownership tonight, like a Gibbs Slade or a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Bijon Slade or something. So you'll still be able to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: get good leverage on all your captains and then spin
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: the wheel for the flex position and make it make sense,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: but get what you get and roll from there. Hoop,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: tight end for you. Any thoughts here?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I think my thoughts are pretty clear. I really like
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I know there's obviously going to be some ownership and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you guys know my thoughts on jig tonight. I think
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I like, I hope the ownership holds true too. I mean,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: we got it. Uh, uh 15 percent like uh i'm
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: gonna make the call that chig is on the optimal
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: lineup tonight all.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Right okay that's a bold call i like that right
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: yeah a lot of o's in that name too that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: could be zeros on the posts on x and things
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: like that when it doesn't work out but the one
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: interesting thing to me, the last thing that will kickers
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: and D's I'll stay with you, but just the, the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Kittle stuff, like I said earlier, we on the stone,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: we do all the simulations, use our data. That's been
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: pretty solid. And we use that to go figure this
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: stuff out. It doesn't mean it's going to work out
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: or be right or whatever. I'm just noting the numbers.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Kittle is only showing up optimal anywhere on this slate
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: less than half the time. Like, I think a lot
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: of people out there right now are just hand-building lineups
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and throwing Kittle into them and whatever, whatever, and feeling
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: good about it. He's not even showing, I mean, he's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: 45% of the time he's on the optimal lineup. So that's,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty, pretty interesting when it seems like people
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: are pegging him to be in there, like, you know,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: all kinds of the time, at least from what I'm seeing.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: So we'll wait and see how it actually shakes out.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: But first run, just thinking about it, we obviously got
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: to get more news on this site while the updated
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: version closer to lock, but it's, it's less than I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: would have expected to be honest. So hoop kickers and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: D's anything there.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's check out our kickers here. We got Mr.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: We're watching. Pinheiro. Let's see. What do we got so far?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: 11, 5, 8, 6, 7. So it's at 5, 6, 7, 8,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: and 11. He's missed, though. 1 out of 2, 1
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: out of 2, 1 out of 1, 2 out of 3.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Eh, not a ton of excitement there, but we'll play him.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: And then Stevens.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Stevens has been solid. 6. 9, 11, 7, 8.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: So both guys, pretty high floor. You know, 150, 60
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: yarder at the end of the half could make the difference. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I like these guys tonight. Then defense, in for some
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: 49ers defense. Not a ton of interest in the Commanders.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Title, your thoughts here?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Commanders defense, definitely the one I have
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: least interest in. But I think I'll be playing a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: decent amount of 49ers defense. It feels like these defenses keep,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: like they're over, They're under-owned relative to projection, I think,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: most of these slates. At least that's what I've kind
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: of– I don't go back and back test and, like,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: look at all ownerships, but I have looked at the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: defenses one a decent bit on showdowns, and people are
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: hesitant to click it unless it's, like, a really, really
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: obvious spot. So in a game total this big, I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: do think 49ers might be, yeah, 15%. That sounds pretty
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: good to me. Any Pinero team, any Stevens team, any,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I guess, Chig team, rashad white you can go 49ers
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: defense we saw yesterday packers had a pretty good uh
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: pretty good day cowboys almost got there as well only
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: takes one.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Who people are already hitting the line man they like
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: you the bet 365 is up to 26 and a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: half now let's go on uh on chig.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get t-shirts too after he wins
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: us all the money tonight we're gonna get it getting
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: chiggy with a t-shirt.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I want to see what his line is by, by lock.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: His line's going to be back down to like 21
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: The real, the real sharp money comes in. Like, all right, yeah, let's,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: let's pop.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: These people piling in. Give us more, give us more,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: give us more. Everyone hits the under title, just piles
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: in on the under, and.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Then we're good. Right.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: At NBA.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: We got some NBA coming up next year. Well, when
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: is it tomorrow?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow. Yeah. 10 a.m. 1 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Eastern.
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  Speaker 3: I draft Kings put it on the, early uh game
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: at three eastern so rio and i will be going
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: live at 1 p.m talking some hoops nice i won't
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  Speaker 3: be betting the under no.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: No they're getting rid of those because the the nba
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: players definitely like to no tinfoil hat needed for the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: nba they do it they're caught yeah they're bad bad
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: actors so we got that hoop anything you saw for
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: fan duel here before.
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  Speaker 1: We get out of here wild price is over there
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the cowing guy is seventy six hundred dollars Jordan Watkins, 7,200. Watkins, 7,200.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Those are pretty wild.
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  Speaker 3: It was because they priced it like Mike Evans was
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  Speaker 3: going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. But, man, that's– well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess when Mike Evans is in, those guys are
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  Speaker 1: clearly– Terry McLaurin at 84 kind of sticks out a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: little bit. Rashad White, 56, way too cheap. I mean,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: one of the worst prices of the year. Chig, 3,600.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: It's load up. Both sites, double shipper, DK. Yeah, I'll
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: just get them both. Get them on DK, get them
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel. I will say Keon Black at 3,400 on
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: FanDuel where, you know, just score a touchdown, probably good enough.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Like definitely prefer him here opposed to DK. Where is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Austin Ackler? 4K, that's fair. Brandon Cooks, 4,400 seems cheap.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Antonio Williams 52 it's probably right where he should be
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: but yeah like those 49ers guys are definitely overpriced but
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: then we got some underpriced dudes as well here so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they got the same Diggs McLaurin thing going on
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: too right McLaurin's cheaper Diggs is right there so.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah tough Diggs at 9k yeah tough click over
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel for sure.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I wonder over there though like Purdy and CMC, it's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit more like Purdy to CMC on DraftKings
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  Speaker 2: is $ 1, 500 savings. Like if you go drop down from
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey to Purdy over there though, it's 300 bucks at
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the MVP. So anything you saw their title, I just,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: that's the one I thought of that stood out a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: McNichols is still a min price over there at 1K.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: I have to monitor if he's going to get called up.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Luke Farrell's really cheap. Again, I'm more willing to punts
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: on fan duel. Even if you expect almost a zero
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: on some slates, not today, you probably a zero. You won't,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: won't really cut it. Cause you do have a min
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: price guy that if he is active, it's going to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: have some sort of projection. Christian Kirk is three K
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: over there. But yeah, otherwise like, I mean, Rashad white's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: going to be mega, mega, mega owned. He is by
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: far the one that is most mispriced.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's going to be a fun slate.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it's, it's figured out what you're doing
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: up top, build your lineups down from there accordingly, but,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: even if you get comfortable with the first two spots
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: into those lineups, there's three more to fill. And that's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: where I think the wheel starts spinning a little bit.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: So just make sure you've got your stuff accordingly in
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: your optimizer, whatever it is you're using to make sure
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: that you're actually planning it and thinking about what the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: rest of that looks like and then go from there.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: But it should be a real potential tonight for, you know,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: outright shippers, uniques, real low chops, things like that. If
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: it goes the other way, so be it. But I
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: think there's definitely the opportunity at least. So, All right.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Anything else from you guys? Anything else you want to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: talk about before we get out of here?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: Congrats to the winners.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tom Brady's great. Rick, I only talked about
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: the tough beat yesterday. But yeah, a lot of great
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: wins in the community. So, hey, and if you're dust
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: like me, still got tonight.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. My goal is to just win
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: something big before week seven for the first time forever, maybe.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: So it's like I've been very close. This is my
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: best week one to six ever while still losing. But
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: still got tonight. So I can't wait.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Let's get it done. All right. Appreciate you guys. Thanks
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: so much for watching. For Tidal, for Hoop, for myself, ToeTag,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: and Tambo, good luck in your contest tonight. Let's ship it.