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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - We Rank the Men from 1 - 39 · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:31
  What's going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
• 0:36
  What's going on?
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  My name is Josh Weitzer.
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  She's Jamie Latimer.
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  She's Carolyn Pivo.
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  We're all here.
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  It's the weekend.
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  I've been driving like every weekend.
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  I am so done driving.
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  Next weekend, I'm not going anywhere.
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  And then I go to the games
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  like a couple weeks, days after that.
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  But I need to like park the
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  car for a little bit.
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  Are you driving to the games?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  If you remember,
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  the only reason I'm going
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  is because I got a round trip for $200.
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  Yep, that's right.
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  And I couldn't pass up the deal.
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  So Bruce and Kenneth are already here.
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  What's up, guys?
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  Make sure that you like and
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  subscribe to the channel.
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  Hit that notifier.
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  We've got so much happening this week.
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  If you have not hit that
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  little bell to know what's going on,
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  you're going to miss a ton.
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  A ton.
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  So, uh,
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  Kenneth says a rare hair down Prevo
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  night.
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  It's cause I showered and
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  then it's just air dried.
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  Um,
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  so have you guys watched the opening
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  ceremonies Olympics this weekend at all?
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  No.
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  Oh yeah.
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  I've watched like, I mean,
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  everything that I could, um,
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  not the 3 0 AM ones normally, probably,
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  probably this week when we
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  head to the gym.
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  Cause we normally are up at
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  three 45 Lex and I,
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  so we'll be catching some
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  of the very early ones.
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  But yeah, we watched opening ceremonies.
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  We watched, what did we watch today?
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  Men's basketball.
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  I watched some soccer, the horse.
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  Yeah.
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  A little bit of everything.
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  The, the, the kayak crazy.
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  I love the launch at the
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  kayak where you like,
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  they drop you off of a ledge and,
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  Yeah.
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  And how they,
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  they have to turn back and
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  not hit any of the posts or
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  like those little floating thingies.
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  Yeah.
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  It's just cool to watch
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  different sports that you
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  don't get to watch throughout the year.
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  Essentially some,
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  most of these sports I only
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  get to watch every four years.
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  Yeah.
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  You can tell it's it's a
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  sports we don't normally watch.
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  Cause you're like, you know,
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  when you go around the
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  thingy and you drop off the
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  ledge and then, you know, you got to back,
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  you know,
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  we don't even use any of the
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  correct terms.
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  but I watched I watched
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  rugby today I watched um
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  swimming of course I
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  watched some gymnastics
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  simone boz is just a cyborg
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  like that is just not even
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  fair that how fast she
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  flips is insane is it fault
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  what was going on so they
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  were they were doing
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  everything today to qualify
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  for team finals okay
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  but she did the vault and flipped so fast.
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  I was just in awe.
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  And then I, I missed her floor routine,
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  but when I heard that was just insane.
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  It's just,
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  it's the height that she gets to,
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  and she comes from such a
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  small body and she just is
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  able to generate so much power, um,
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  in her tumbling.
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  It's, it's crazy.
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  I watched the men.
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  I think the men were yesterday.
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  Um,
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  That was very cool to watch as well.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, everything's just,
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  you're just looking at the
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  best of every sport.
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  It's, it's my favorite time of the year.
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  I love watching the Olympics
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  because I love watching sports.
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  Yeah.
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  So what I've, you know,
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  I'm a big swimming fan, right?
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  I'm watching as much as I
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  can of the swimming,
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  but I'm finding myself
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  almost rooting against
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  China more than for the U S
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  because of that drug thing.
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  Yeah.
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  28 people popped for,
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  for performance dancing drugs.
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  I, I don't,
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  it's almost like I don't care
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  if the U S wins.
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  I just don't want China to podium.
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  I just don't get how they're
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  allowed to compete.
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  It makes no sense to me.
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  What did they say?
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  It was all like tainted meat
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  and they were... They said
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  they all went out to dinner together.
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  And... Really?
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  Like we've heard all the excuses.
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  Right.
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  And that just break down the
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  fairway of excuses.
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  Yeah,
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  and we have plenty of excuses in our
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  sport.
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  Yeah.
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  We've heard them all.
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  Right.
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  So I just...
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  So anyway,
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  I was happy that we're doing okay,
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  but I'm just glad China is
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  not doing okay.
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  Yeah.
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  I was sad for Team Canada's soccer team.
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  I don't know if you saw that.
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  There's like a drone gate.
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  The military tech of women's soccer?
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  Essentially, Jamie,
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  if you're not up to date,
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  the Canadian women's soccer team,
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  their staff flew a drone over Canada
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  New Zealand,
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  I think it was their soccer
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  teams closed practice and
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  you're not allowed to film anything.
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  Yeah.
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  I had read that one of the,
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  the guy flying the drone
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  was getting like eight
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  months to like in prison or
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  something because it's like
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  illegal to film things that
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  are closed also in their country.
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  But the head coach got a
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  year suspension and two of
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  the assistant coach are also gone for the,
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  for the whole competition.
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  And they deducted six points
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  from Team Canada.
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  So right now,
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  there's only three games in the pool play,
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  and each game is worth three points.
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  Canada's the defending
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  Olympic champions as well.
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  And so now they have zero points.
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  They just beat France today.
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  They've won both games,
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  but it still might not even
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  be enough to move on
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  because they some six full points.
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  So now they're at zero.
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  So they essentially need to
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  win the next game.
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  And then they might need
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  like someone else to tie as well.
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  Or I think they should be good.
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  Maybe if they win the next game,
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  but I was just so invested
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  for the girls today because I mean,
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  they train all four years
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  and it's not like,
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  the players fault like
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  they're like they're
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  getting punished in my
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  opinion for not knowing
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  what was going on like they
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  were apparently not in the
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  know that that happened so
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  it just it sucks so just to
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  see the girls win today I
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  was like just super pumped
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  yeah and I agree with you
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  if the if they did not know
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  and they did not take part
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  in it they're being
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  punished way too severely for this
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  But yeah, it was,
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  everybody's coming out of
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  the woodwork now saying
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  that they feel like it's
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  been done to them as well.
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  Like it's been going on for years.
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  So,
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  and I think Andrew Sten said something
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  about that as well.
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  And he's a huge soccer guy.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, but I mean,
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  unless you know what's been
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  happening in all the other
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  teams and everyone's kind
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  of on the same playing field,
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  if it really is just a Canada thing,
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  then do they have a
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  competitive – even if the
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  girls didn't know about it,
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  do they have a competitive
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  advantage from the coaching
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  knowledge that was passed down?
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  I mean – Yeah.
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  It's the whole New England
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  Patriots thing all over again.
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  Like Bill Belichick, Spygate, Deflategate,
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  whatever.
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  Did the players get a
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  competitive advantage or not?
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  Right.
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  It's an extremely harsh
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  penalty that was handed out.
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  But, I mean,
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  it's just going to prevent
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  other teams to do it, right?
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  Like you want a harsh
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  penalty because if the
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  penalty is not harsh enough,
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  then you have this
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  continuing to happen and
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  people will just lose their
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  coaches and it's all good.
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  Yeah.
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  I just felt like six points is a lot,
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  but it is what it is.
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  And they can only do what they can do now.
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  So they're playing basically
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  without coaches and they've
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  won two games.
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  So it's exciting.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Bruce is bringing up the Astros.
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  Did it stealing signals?
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  One, one, a world series.
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  Like it happens in sports all the time.
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  And I think the penalty does
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  have to be severe or it's
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  just going to continue to happen.
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  I typed this in right before
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  we went on the air.
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  I was looking at the metal count,
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  and it puts all the silver, the gold,
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  the bronze, and the total at the end,
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  but it's in order of gold.
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  When you think of metal count,
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  do you think all the metals?
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  Is that good enough,
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  or do you think gold only?
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  I think total metals, personally.
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  I mean, podium's podium.
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  Same here.
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  I like looking at the total,
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  but I also like looking at
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  the countries just
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  dominating in gold medals.
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  But I normally try to look at the total.
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  Of course, everybody does that.
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  They want to compete against
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  the other countries.
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  But it's kind of unfair
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  because basketball gets one medal count,
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  yet you have a team of men
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  that have done this.
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  And then the 100 butterfly
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  gets a medal count.
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  Right.
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  So it's kind of
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  disproportionate because for years,
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  like when we send our best
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  basketball players, nobody touched us.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  But you only get one gold medal for that.
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  So it kind of goes down the
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  line of some other things
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  we're going to talk about tonight.
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  So Jeffrey Birchfield says total medals,
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  Bruce Wayne, total medals.
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  It's a team sport.
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  Yeah.
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  Before we dive into all the news that is,
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  uh, masters interviews.
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  I put out a post last night.
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  Wow.
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  The response, um, that, uh,
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  calling all legends,
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  which legends is running
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  the masters competition.
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  Uh, if you are a masters games athlete,
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  I'm trying to profile as
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  many as I can before the
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  masters CrossFit games.
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  I got a,
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  an overwhelming response and there
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  are still some in my inbox
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  that I haven't even been
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  able to touch yet.
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  Um,
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  So if you're in that inbox,
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  please be patient.
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  I will get to you.
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  It just takes a lot of back
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  and forth to schedule and
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  to make a thumbnail,
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  to be able to put it into
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  StreamYard and all that stuff.
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  But we are really booked up for this week.
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  I think I can show
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  StreamYard real quick and
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  just show you kind of what
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  we have on deck here.
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  Because it is insane.
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  Here we go.
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  So I will try to blow this up.
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  So we have Denise Moore and
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  Cindy Hinkle doing it together.
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  Carleen Matthews, Brett Owsley,
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  Brandon Fontenot, Julie Schaefer,
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  Kelly Friel, Laura Redman,
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  and Haley Queller.
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  Yeah.
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  And there are still,
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  we've done two already.
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  There are at least 10 in my
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  inbox that I'm trying to schedule.
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  So yeah, it's, it's stacked up.
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  but if you missed the first two we did, uh,
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  with, uh,
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  Alison and Alison stall and Ryan Redkey,
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  they were awesome.
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  Uh, Alison is eight months postpartum.
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  She competed in semis last year, pregnant.
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  Uh,
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  it was fun to kind of see how that has
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  affected her in her
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  training and the battle
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  she's going through because of that.
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  Um, and then, uh,
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  with ryan retke who won fear
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  factor back in 2003 uh when
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  he had a full head of hair
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  he is now bald um and his
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  kids call the fear factor
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  days his when dad had hair
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  um and it was it was funny
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  because I said yeah joe
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  rogan did too um and he was
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  not as popular back then as he is today
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  I watched the full episode that he was on.
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  It was crazy what he went
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  through to win that.
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  Um, but yeah,
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  and we talk about it pretty
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  in depth on the episode,
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  but those are the cool
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  backstories that you get, uh,
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  when you're interviewing
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  the masters athletes who
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  have a ton of life experience.
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  Uh,
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  many of them are working full-time jobs
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  as they're doing this thing,
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  just like the two ladies on
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  my show with me tonight,
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  working full-time jobs and
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  trying to pull this off.
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  So, uh,
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  With that,
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  do we want to get into what Dave
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  had to say this week?
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  Yeah.
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  I need to hold on.
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  Okay.
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  So he, in his weekend review,
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  I believe said that the
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  number on the happy star
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  was not the weight of the happy star.
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  So we wanted to clarify that.
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  Do we believe them?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I just think it's odd that
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  it would be written like that,
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  unless that's the max that it can take.
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  I don't know.
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  It's weird.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't know.
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  And if it's not, if it's not taught,
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  like it's easier to lift, right?
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  Like,
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  So it depends on how not taught it is.
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  Like we have one that's like
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  60% full and I feel like
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  it's the hardest one to lift.
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  It's so floppy.
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  Yeah, I agree.
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  When they're like, when they're more full,
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  they're almost easier.
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  They just kind of just grab them.
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  They're just kind of like,
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  like it's super hard to
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  touch and go cleans with
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  the sandbags when they're not, um, full.
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  I have only done a handful
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  of sandbags that didn't have a handle.
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  And when they're taught,
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  I find getting your hand under is harder.
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  Like getting under it to start.
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  But I see what you mean.
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  It's just too floppy.
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  If it was just like bear hug carries, yeah,
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  you might want it a little empty.
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  Although with this being the
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  star and basically having...
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  areas to put your arm um I
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  think it I think it's fine
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  you're gonna want a pretty
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  full the starts like to me
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  would be easier for the
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  carry but maybe that'll
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  allow more speed if they're
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  running with it so it's not
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  like as easy to fold over
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  or something or thumb fall
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  might just be easier
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  In addition,
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  Dave has finished all 79 interviews.
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  Plus, he interviewed Matt O'Keefe,
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  which we'll get into in a second.
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  His last one was Danielle.
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  I know the barbell spin put out a poll.
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  Many people said it would be Danielle.
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  In fact, it was Danielle.
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  And she got a full hour.
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  Yeah.
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  Did you guys watch?
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  I did watch it.
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  Yeah, I watched it.
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  thoughts?
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  I actually thought it was a
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  good interview.
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  I liked when she talked
• 16:35
  about her behavior at the 21 games.
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  It's very introspective.
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  I haven't seen her really
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  touch on that in anything else she's done,
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  even that
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  rad tapes that they did um
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  which you would have
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  thought maybe she would
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  have gotten more into that
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  there um yeah I i liked it
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  it was a little bit of a
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  different side of her for
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  parts of it yeah I like
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  that they went through the
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  whole history of her
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  crossfit games experience
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  and just where she began
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  her time with the demo team
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  um the book that he gave
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  her um we saw him post that on the story
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  And I agree with you.
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  I like this when she talked
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  about the 2021 games and
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  just that experience,
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  because that was obviously
• 17:23
  a very difficult time for her,
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  but it also like boosted
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  her following so much that year.
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  I mean,
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  it was already really high and then
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  that just took it over even more.
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  So while there may have been
• 17:38
  negative that she felt from that,
• 17:40
  there was a lot of positive,
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  I think that she could take
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  away from that experience.
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  Yeah.
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  Jay Burch asked the flipping off incident.
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  It was actually more than that.
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  Yeah, it was more than that, Jeff.
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  She, she talked a lot about like,
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  she's like, I was like a brat.
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  Like I, you know, she didn't necessarily,
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  she was embarrassed of her behavior.
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  She just learned more about
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  herself and she could have
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  handled everything, the whole,
• 18:05
  the entire games process just better.
• 18:08
  You'll have to give it a watch.
• 18:09
  It's, it's good.
• 18:11
  She called it all a learning experience.
• 18:13
  That she could have used
• 18:15
  that energy in a different
• 18:16
  way to help her perform as
• 18:20
  opposed to hurt her.
• 18:23
  And I do think in her documentary,
• 18:26
  she was a little
• 18:26
  introspective at times
• 18:29
  during that documentary.
• 18:31
  And so I have noticed her
• 18:34
  being a little more
• 18:35
  introspective this year.
• 18:39
  One,
• 18:39
  she's not out there in the media all
• 18:41
  the time this year.
• 18:42
  She's pretty much stayed to herself.
• 18:47
  But yeah,
• 18:48
  Bruce said probably her best
• 18:50
  interview to date.
• 18:51
  I agree.
• 18:51
  Yeah, I would agree.
• 18:55
  And I do think Dave got
• 18:56
  better as he went along.
• 18:58
  I think Dave got to be a
• 18:59
  better interviewer as he went along.
• 19:02
  Like if you compare Brooke
• 19:04
  at the start to Danielle
• 19:05
  and both being his favorite athletes,
• 19:07
  if I were to say it, like I,
• 19:09
  it was a little bit cringy
• 19:10
  with Brooke and I did not
• 19:11
  feel that way really with Danielle.
• 19:13
  Right.
• 19:14
  I thought it got better throughout.
• 19:15
  And like you said, um,
• 19:18
  he was able to get deeper,
• 19:19
  especially in the later
• 19:20
  ones that were getting a
• 19:21
  little bit longer.
• 19:21
  Like it started off around
• 19:22
  the 10 to 15 and then a lot
• 19:24
  more of them were beginning
• 19:25
  to be closer to the 20 minute.
• 19:26
  And obviously we got Pat
• 19:28
  with the 30 minute one.
• 19:29
  Um,
• 19:30
  But yeah, I like those interviews a lot.
• 19:32
  Learned a lot about the
• 19:33
  athletes and I'm excited to
• 19:34
  watch them in less than two weeks.
• 19:38
  It's coming up.
• 19:40
  Vice says it did feel a
• 19:41
  little weird that some
• 19:41
  athletes got 11 and she got an hour.
• 19:45
  I can say just from an
• 19:46
  interviewer's perspective,
• 19:47
  there are some athletes
• 19:49
  that give you so much more.
• 19:51
  Like interviewing Ryan Redkey,
• 19:54
  I could have gone on for
• 19:55
  three hours because when
• 19:57
  you ask him a question,
• 19:58
  he gives you details about
• 20:00
  the story that you don't have to like,
• 20:03
  you don't have to pull out of him.
• 20:05
  Right.
• 20:05
  He just does.
• 20:06
  When I, when I talked to Ariel, it just,
• 20:10
  it just flows because she's
• 20:12
  naturally a person who just
• 20:15
  likes to talk.
• 20:16
  Right.
• 20:17
  Um,
• 20:18
  And so you have some
• 20:19
  interviews that it just
• 20:20
  goes a lot easier.
• 20:22
  Well,
• 20:23
  it doesn't surprise me that the last
• 20:25
  couple were longer.
• 20:25
  He's essentially done and he
• 20:27
  cares less about the time.
• 20:29
  Imagine if you had started
• 20:30
  at 30 minutes to 45 minutes.
• 20:32
  That would have felt overwhelming.
• 20:38
  Yeah.
• 20:39
  If I'm doing seven in a day,
• 20:41
  they're going to all be short.
• 20:44
  When that was the last one
• 20:45
  or only one on that day and
• 20:46
  he doesn't have any more scheduled, sure.
• 20:50
  Great point, Bruce.
• 20:51
  Fee as well.
• 20:51
  Fee is someone that when I
• 20:53
  sit down and talk to, it just goes.
• 20:56
  And we don't even talk about
• 20:57
  anything in the sport most of the time.
• 21:00
  You have some of those
• 21:01
  people that that's just natural.
• 21:03
  And I'll say when we've had Danielle on,
• 21:05
  she has been very open and
• 21:07
  transparent during our talks.
• 21:09
  And that's probably why
• 21:11
  they're the highest rated
• 21:12
  shows we have on this channel.
• 21:14
  Because every time she's on,
• 21:15
  it just explodes.
• 21:17
  But, yeah.
• 21:25
  Again, Vi,
• 21:26
  it's not about who's been here
• 21:27
  the longest.
• 21:29
  There's just some people
• 21:30
  that you naturally have conversation with,
• 21:32
  and the conversation just flows, right?
• 21:36
  My favorite interviewer was still Pat.
• 21:39
  I thought he pushed back
• 21:40
  more than any other athlete
• 21:41
  in terms of his opinion on
• 21:43
  stuff and just the
• 21:44
  experience that he has.
• 21:45
  I thought that it was hard
• 21:48
  to even tell who was
• 21:49
  interviewing who between
• 21:50
  those two because it was good.
• 21:51
  That was my favorite.
• 21:54
  And I love Pat.
• 21:56
  That's a perfect segue, Carolyn.
• 21:58
  Chris Alford asks,
• 21:59
  did you see Dave on Savant's podcast?
• 22:02
  I went through it at two
• 22:03
  speed today because I went
• 22:06
  to celebrate my daughter's
• 22:07
  birthday with her this
• 22:07
  weekend and tried to catch
• 22:09
  up on everything.
• 22:11
  Yes,
• 22:11
  they talked about the Pat interview
• 22:13
  during that conversation
• 22:16
  and Dave was kind of
• 22:18
  defensive about some of the
• 22:20
  comments Pat made about that
• 22:25
  Because Pat then came on Savant,
• 22:27
  said some things,
• 22:28
  and then Dave responded to
• 22:29
  the follow-up of Pat,
• 22:31
  which was that if you're
• 22:34
  not watching other events
• 22:37
  and you don't know the
• 22:37
  names of the athletes,
• 22:38
  do you care about the sport?
• 22:40
  And Dave was very adamant
• 22:41
  that nobody cares about the
• 22:42
  sport more than he does.
• 22:45
  He's like, it was on my ranch.
• 22:47
  It started there.
• 22:48
  I've built this thing.
• 22:49
  Nobody cares about it as much as I do.
• 22:54
  I still think...
• 22:56
  That he can learn a lot from
• 22:59
  other competitions to not
• 23:01
  make the same mistake.
• 23:03
  But that's why I think a lot
• 23:05
  of input from his team is
• 23:07
  crucial because I'm sure
• 23:08
  they watch other competitions,
• 23:10
  which I know that they would.
• 23:11
  So he might not have to,
• 23:13
  but as long as someone from
• 23:15
  the team is in the know of
• 23:17
  what's going on, what's been programmed,
• 23:18
  what works, what doesn't,
• 23:20
  what's safe for the athletes,
• 23:21
  I think that's where
• 23:23
  It's beneficial to be
• 23:24
  looking at what's going on
• 23:25
  in the sport elsewhere.
• 23:27
  They did talk about the
• 23:28
  monetization as well.
• 23:30
  And through that conversation,
• 23:32
  it became clear to me that
• 23:34
  Dave has monetized his channel.
• 23:37
  He just chose not to
• 23:38
  monetize those interviews.
• 23:42
  And he said there is like
• 23:44
  his hunting content.
• 23:45
  He monetizes.
• 23:47
  There are some things he does monetize,
• 23:49
  but he chose not to
• 23:50
  monetize the interviews.
• 23:55
  which we had a private
• 23:57
  discussion this week during
• 23:59
  Danielle's interview
• 24:00
  because it looked like
• 24:01
  there was a monetization marker on it,
• 24:06
  but it just meant you could
• 24:08
  do super chats,
• 24:09
  but he wasn't monetizing it through ads.
• 24:14
  And it was kind of explained.
• 24:17
  If you do YouTube,
• 24:18
  you understood it when he
• 24:19
  was talking about it yesterday.
• 24:21
  So...
• 24:23
  But he did interview Matt O'Keefe, too,
• 24:26
  and he was asked to do that
• 24:28
  by people at HQ to
• 24:32
  interview partners at the games.
• 24:36
  And HWPO is doing some activations.
• 24:38
  I think O'Keefe said like
• 24:41
  164 different activations
• 24:43
  during the week.
• 24:46
  And so they interviewed him about that.
• 24:48
  And in that conversation,
• 24:51
  Dave announced that they
• 24:54
  were going to give an award
• 24:56
  for the best training camp.
• 24:59
  He explained a little more
• 25:00
  in this interview with Siobhan as well.
• 25:02
  But basically,
• 25:04
  each camp can pick three
• 25:06
  athletes to represent them.
• 25:10
  And based on where they score,
• 25:11
  they can get a point or where they finish,
• 25:14
  they get a number of points.
• 25:18
  I must have missed the three.
• 25:19
  Each camp picks three athletes part.
• 25:21
  He said that in the O'Keefe interview.
• 25:25
  Oh.
• 25:26
  Yeah.
• 25:28
  It would be like a golf score.
• 25:30
  I don't know.
• 25:32
  Let's say Pat's HWPO now and
• 25:35
  other athletes.
• 25:35
  If Pat got second and
• 25:37
  someone else got fourth or
• 25:38
  at six points total or
• 25:40
  added a third athlete,
• 25:42
  whoever has the lowest
• 25:43
  would essentially win the top camp,
• 25:46
  if you want to call it.
• 25:49
  Which is different than the affiliate cup,
• 25:52
  apparently.
• 25:54
  Correct.
• 25:55
  So, Carolyn,
• 25:57
  as someone who's not a part of a camp,
• 26:00
  what are your overall
• 26:01
  thoughts that they're going
• 26:02
  down this path?
• 26:04
  Or does it not bother you?
• 26:10
  I just think...
• 26:12
  It's interesting to look at
• 26:14
  camps when half of them
• 26:15
  don't even train together, like ever.
• 26:17
  They just follow the program
• 26:20
  versus an actual training
• 26:21
  camp where they're training
• 26:24
  one-on-one or whatever, like together.
• 26:27
  I don't know.
• 26:31
  I feel like they already get
• 26:31
  a lot of advantages in the sport.
• 26:34
  That's just another thing
• 26:35
  that they're given,
• 26:36
  a little trophy or whatever they'll get.
• 26:41
  I don't know.
• 26:42
  I don't know that it really means much.
• 26:43
  It just, it helps the bigger camps,
• 26:47
  I guess, show which one's best.
• 26:49
  I feel like most of the
• 26:50
  analysts or the journalists, I should say,
• 26:54
  will write about which camp
• 26:56
  did the best anyways.
• 26:59
  But yeah, it's just hard.
• 27:00
  Yeah.
• 27:01
  Some of them don't even
• 27:02
  follow the program and they just,
• 27:04
  they'll take the money or
• 27:05
  the sponsorships that that
• 27:06
  camp will give them.
• 27:07
  And that's the other issue too.
• 27:09
  Like,
• 27:10
  if you look at certain
• 27:11
  athletes that were very recently,
• 27:15
  let's say changed camps or acquired,
• 27:18
  or even like last year,
• 27:19
  like let's say Colton, right?
• 27:20
  Like he was not proven.
• 27:21
  And then he was proven and
• 27:23
  whatever sponsorship he's
• 27:24
  getting through that, like right away,
• 27:26
  like, like they'll,
• 27:27
  they'll claim him right away, but like,
• 27:30
  we all know he was built, you know,
• 27:33
  from his,
• 27:34
  from his farm and doing his own
• 27:35
  stuff or whoever he was following before,
• 27:37
  just like the underdogs
• 27:39
  moving to prove it now a
• 27:41
  few weeks before the games, like,
• 27:43
  are they proven or are they underdogs?
• 27:45
  Like, yes, they're technically proven now,
• 27:47
  but how long have they been
• 27:49
  training there?
• 27:50
  Like that's another factor.
• 27:52
  So I have in my notes,
• 27:54
  there should be a minimum
• 27:55
  month requirement,
• 27:56
  but when Dave talked about it yesterday,
• 27:58
  he was like, listen,
• 28:00
  it means nothing and it means everything,
• 28:03
  was his quote.
• 28:04
  And it just gets people to talk.
• 28:07
  And what he was looking into
• 28:09
  was that they have to
• 28:11
  declare when they sign in for the game.
• 28:14
  So if...
• 28:16
  bailey martin shows up at
• 28:17
  the games and he's like you
• 28:18
  know what I identify more
• 28:20
  as underdogs than proven I
• 28:21
  want to go under underdogs
• 28:22
  this year boom he then he's
• 28:26
  publicly declared as an
• 28:28
  underdog athlete and he
• 28:29
  goes I don't care if they
• 28:30
  did anything under them or
• 28:31
  they did whatever but you
• 28:33
  have to publicly declare
• 28:35
  whatever it is um
• 28:38
  I think it just gets to be messy though,
• 28:40
  when it,
• 28:41
  when you're that freewheeling by
• 28:42
  it and and then do people
• 28:45
  get signed up just as a,
• 28:48
  as a number to win this award?
• 28:52
  Yeah.
• 28:52
  I mean,
• 28:53
  at some point it probably would
• 28:55
  monetarily benefit one of
• 28:57
  these camps to get one of
• 28:58
  these big names last minute,
• 29:00
  be on their team.
• 29:02
  That's going to be the
• 29:02
  winning team and more
• 29:03
  people are going to sign up
• 29:04
  for that programming.
• 29:06
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  Is it like, is it better to finish,
• 29:08
  get three athletes that
• 29:09
  finish high or get 10
• 29:11
  athletes that qualify?
• 29:12
  Right.
• 29:14
  That's another thing too.
• 29:15
  Like, but yeah, I don't know.
• 29:17
  I don't really have an opinion.
• 29:19
  I don't really,
• 29:19
  I don't follow any training camp program.
• 29:25
  my own stuff john young says
• 29:26
  you telling me pat is doing
• 29:27
  frazier's programming
• 29:29
  carolyn or is he doing the
• 29:30
  same deal with latondra
• 29:32
  they ain't influencing
• 29:33
  nothing it's just in the
• 29:34
  name only unless you know
• 29:36
  something I don't no to me
• 29:39
  he's he is michelle's
• 29:41
  athlete and he's doing deca
• 29:43
  which is now acquired by hwpl he's
• 29:46
  To me,
• 29:47
  I think it's so weird that he's HWPO.
• 29:49
  To me, he's DECA.
• 29:52
  It's even weird for certain
• 29:53
  athletes that are switching
• 29:55
  training camps now.
• 29:56
  It's just a name.
• 29:57
  It's just sponsorships.
• 29:57
  They'll do what they'll want
• 29:59
  to get more money or support,
• 30:01
  whether it's access to
• 30:02
  treatment at the games,
• 30:03
  access to information at the games,
• 30:07
  whatever.
• 30:09
  Being a part of a training
• 30:10
  camp is helpful at times.
• 30:15
  Again, like I said earlier,
• 30:16
  like Dave's idea of at
• 30:19
  least people are talking
• 30:20
  about it and that's what his goal is.
• 30:22
  I just don't think that's
• 30:23
  like big thinking marketing
• 30:25
  in this day and age.
• 30:27
  That's great in 2012 when
• 30:29
  you're a small sport coming up.
• 30:31
  But at some point you have
• 30:32
  to prove that you're doing
• 30:34
  things the right way.
• 30:35
  Not people talking.
• 30:38
  And are they even affiliated half the time,
• 30:40
  these like training camps or whatever,
• 30:42
  right?
• 30:42
  So like underdogs is a program,
• 30:44
  but I don't think that's an
• 30:45
  actual affiliate underdogs CrossFit.
• 30:48
  So it has other, I don't know,
• 30:53
  other repercussions, I guess.
• 30:57
  To me, the affiliate cup is a team stuff.
• 30:58
  The journalists and stuff
• 30:59
  and the analysts will say
• 31:01
  which one's the best camp anyways.
• 31:02
  I don't think it's, I mean,
• 31:05
  if he wants to do it, he wants to do it.
• 31:06
  It's a little...
• 31:07
  It's a fun little award.
• 31:09
  It's a Spirit of the Games award.
• 31:11
  Yeah, a little bit.
• 31:12
  Yeah.
• 31:13
  It's like the last-minute
• 31:15
  drop of the Triple Crown
• 31:18
  that Dave tried to say.
• 31:19
  Well,
• 31:20
  when you do it in the middle of the
• 31:21
  Triple Crown and nobody
• 31:22
  knew it even existed,
• 31:24
  is it really a Triple Crown?
• 31:27
  Right.
• 31:29
  And the scoring was absurd anyway, but...
• 31:33
  And then that just, to me,
• 31:35
  that's just going to go by the wayside.
• 31:37
  And this is another thing
• 31:38
  that just flippantly was said,
• 31:39
  and unless there's
• 31:41
  something put behind it
• 31:42
  that means something,
• 31:43
  it's just going to go away.
• 31:49
  So there's that.
• 31:51
  We'll finish up with Dave
• 31:53
  posted on his Instagram a
• 31:54
  video of Trista Smith, demo athlete,
• 31:58
  doing Chad.
• 32:01
  Now, yesterday on Savan,
• 32:03
  he said that he's the one
• 32:05
  that took the video and he
• 32:07
  on purposely made sure that
• 32:10
  you could not see the box.
• 32:15
  So does that tell you
• 32:16
  anything or is that just another one?
• 32:20
  I think there might be like
• 32:21
  two circles or two pieces
• 32:23
  of tape or something on the box.
• 32:24
  So you have to step up and then you can –
• 32:29
  like rotator twist the other way.
• 32:31
  And there might be, it might be, yeah,
• 32:33
  like you step up with both
• 32:35
  feet need to be like this
• 32:36
  versus you can't stand up
• 32:38
  halfway on the box where
• 32:39
  you can step down.
• 32:40
  You have to stand up.
• 32:41
  So your foot is on both parts of the,
• 32:43
  let's say a tape line on the box.
• 32:45
  Do you know what I mean by that or no?
• 32:48
  There's like, yeah, like you can't,
• 32:50
  you can't step to the far
• 32:51
  side of the box and be ready to get down.
• 32:53
  You need to be on this side of the box.
• 32:54
  Then you can turn and get your feet over.
• 32:57
  Yes.
• 32:57
  I think,
• 32:58
  I think there's something like
• 32:59
  that on the box so that
• 33:01
  you're not halfway turned
• 33:02
  when you're doing your step up,
• 33:04
  which would save seconds
• 33:05
  throughout the whole movement.
• 33:07
  Um,
• 33:07
  so that's the first thing I thought of
• 33:09
  was there must be something
• 33:10
  she's stepping on there.
• 33:12
  And then the second thing,
• 33:13
  which we talked about was
• 33:14
  that she was wearing knee
• 33:15
  sleeves folded on her ankles.
• 33:18
  So I didn't know whether every, you know,
• 33:20
  a hundred or 200 steps,
• 33:24
  Instead of moving a pile on,
• 33:26
  they had to go and do one rope climb,
• 33:29
  one weighted rope climb and
• 33:30
  then come back to their step ups.
• 33:31
  It's something that wouldn't
• 33:32
  be taking that long anyways.
• 33:34
  And then they just would do
• 33:36
  something like that.
• 33:36
  I don't know.
• 33:37
  But it was interesting that
• 33:38
  she wore knee sleeves to me
• 33:41
  unless she thought she was going to trip.
• 33:43
  But I don't think that you
• 33:44
  would wear knee sleeves
• 33:45
  during the box step ups.
• 33:48
  The twist is that you have
• 33:49
  to step down backwards,
• 33:50
  which means you have to
• 33:51
  turn on the top of the box.
• 33:53
  Tape line makes sense.
• 33:55
  Right.
• 33:57
  Or chalk circles or whatever
• 34:00
  forces them to do that.
• 34:03
  Andrew Sten also, unpurposely.
• 34:05
  Yes, that is official podcaster language.
• 34:09
  And it's a secret handbook
• 34:11
  we're given when we start a podcast.
• 34:13
  And we know the secret words you can use.
• 34:16
  So on purposely is one of those words.
• 34:23
  A literal twist.
• 34:25
  A literal twist.
• 34:26
  Yeah.
• 34:28
  That would be so Dave that
• 34:32
  Chad will have a twist and
• 34:33
  it actually is a literal twist.
• 34:37
  Yeah.
• 34:37
  Well,
• 34:39
  I think, I mean,
• 34:40
  I think Carolyn's right
• 34:41
  that there is something else.
• 34:43
  I mean,
• 34:44
  he said in that conversation with
• 34:47
  Saban that he spoke to
• 34:49
  Chad's spouse and informed
• 34:53
  her of the changes.
• 34:54
  And he even said like, well,
• 34:56
  she was testing components.
• 34:59
  So I mean,
• 35:00
  it sounds like there's something
• 35:01
  else being involved in that
• 35:03
  workout other than just the box.
• 35:05
  So, and I, yeah, I could,
• 35:06
  it could be the rope.
• 35:07
  It could, I don't know.
• 35:10
  Jay Birch,
• 35:12
  I could see that if they were on
• 35:13
  her knees,
• 35:14
  but they were actually folded
• 35:15
  down around her ankles.
• 35:17
  Or someone in our little
• 35:19
  chat said maybe their ankle weights.
• 35:24
  So that would be even another twist,
• 35:26
  but that would be crazy.
• 35:28
  Historic agrees.
• 35:33
  Yeah,
• 35:33
  there's historic fitness came in with
• 35:35
  the same thing.
• 35:36
  I mean,
• 35:37
  if the workouts are already super hard,
• 35:39
  like I've, I've done it with a 35 before.
• 35:42
  I don't think you need to add the weights.
• 35:44
  They have a heavy clean
• 35:45
  ladder coming right after.
• 35:46
  Um, it's already very leg intensive.
• 35:49
  Like your quads are gonna be blown up.
• 35:51
  Your calves are going to be sore.
• 35:53
  don't think the ankle
• 35:53
  weights are needed I just
• 35:55
  thought it was weird I i
• 35:56
  think it was knee sleeves
• 35:57
  um if I wear my knee
• 35:58
  sleeves on box jumps
• 35:59
  normally it's just in case
• 36:00
  I would you know fall and I
• 36:02
  don't have them rolled down
• 36:03
  I would have them higher up
• 36:05
  like middle of my shin in
• 36:06
  case I jump so the fact
• 36:07
  that they're all the way
• 36:08
  down the only time that you
• 36:09
  wear them all the way down
• 36:10
  is for rope climbs so to me
• 36:13
  and we've seen weighted
• 36:14
  rope climbs at rogue
• 36:15
  invitational or other
• 36:16
  competitions um to me it
• 36:21
  would make sense to
• 36:23
  I wouldn't be surprised if
• 36:25
  it's there just based off of that.
• 36:27
  Yeah.
• 36:28
  I wouldn't be surprised either.
• 36:29
  I mean, we could – you could, like,
• 36:34
  try to guess other workouts
• 36:36
  of the earlier days.
• 36:38
  But, I mean,
• 36:39
  he said it's going to be well-balanced.
• 36:41
  And I don't know that just straight Chad,
• 36:44
  like,
• 36:44
  without adding a gymnastics
• 36:45
  component or something,
• 36:47
  would be the best elimination workout.
• 36:50
  I mean, I like the –
• 36:53
  endurance aspect of it the
• 36:55
  you know it is a mindset
• 36:56
  thing but I do think
• 36:58
  throwing something in like
• 36:59
  a weighted rope climb would
• 37:01
  be a good idea yeah I'm
• 37:07
  okay with it um it would
• 37:10
  give it would give the
• 37:11
  judges a break from
• 37:12
  counting yeah that's true
• 37:16
  It just seemed like she was
• 37:17
  taking so many steps across the top.
• 37:19
  Maybe the box was wider.
• 37:21
  She is short though, right?
• 37:23
  She is short,
• 37:23
  but you could tell it was a
• 37:25
  wooden box by the squeaking of the shoe.
• 37:27
  Because you don't get that
• 37:29
  on the wide Rogue box.
• 37:34
  I just think that there's
• 37:35
  something where you have to stand up.
• 37:37
  You have both your feet there,
• 37:39
  you stand up,
• 37:40
  and then you can rotate your foot.
• 37:42
  I think it's the only way that I...
• 37:46
  I think would be fair where
• 37:49
  you're the judge can fully
• 37:50
  see the standing up and then you rotate.
• 37:52
  Yep.
• 37:54
  Yeah.
• 37:55
  Can you pull the video and
• 37:57
  show it just so we can look
• 37:58
  at it quickly?
• 37:59
  Or I told Jamie,
• 38:02
  I forgot my mouse upstairs.
• 38:05
  So I'm not as.
• 38:11
  Yeah.
• 38:11
  Historic says I like 10 rounds,
• 38:13
  100 step up plus one rope climb.
• 38:15
  I,
• 38:16
  Yeah, I like it.
• 38:20
  Wasn't this like he was
• 38:22
  training to climb a
• 38:25
  mountain or something?
• 38:26
  This was part of the reason
• 38:27
  he did this workout?
• 38:30
  I don't know.
• 38:30
  I don't know the history of it.
• 38:32
  I know that Dave talked
• 38:33
  about the history of him
• 38:35
  making it something in honor of him.
• 38:39
  Yeah.
• 38:40
  But
• 38:45
  So that's, that's the video.
• 38:47
  And you can see the black
• 38:52
  around the bottoms of her legs.
• 38:54
  Like, like to me,
• 38:55
  she purposely taps that
• 38:57
  circle or whatever's there.
• 38:58
  It could be a counter to
• 38:59
  count the reps so that it's,
• 39:01
  I have no idea,
• 39:02
  but there's something there
• 39:03
  to tap and then you can rotate,
• 39:06
  tap and then rotate.
• 39:08
  Right.
• 39:09
  Yeah.
• 39:10
  Yep.
• 39:11
  I totally agree.
• 39:12
  I just, I mean, if like,
• 39:13
  if he was a remote mountain
• 39:14
  climber doing training for
• 39:16
  something like that, you,
• 39:17
  you typically will have
• 39:18
  like a rope rope with you too,
• 39:20
  when you go do some of that stuff.
• 39:21
  So I could, I mean,
• 39:22
  I can see him throwing it,
• 39:23
  not taking away from the workout, um,
• 39:28
  throwing like a rope climb in there.
• 39:30
  I just like the dense step ups.
• 39:33
  So getting them away from the box too much,
• 39:35
  I think deviates from Chad.
• 39:37
  Um,
• 39:40
  So I hope that they keep it
• 39:43
  like where you're having to
• 39:45
  do a dense set.
• 39:46
  I've heard different
• 39:47
  channels talk about like
• 39:48
  elimination factors.
• 39:49
  I just don't see being an
• 39:51
  elimination of Chad,
• 39:52
  like where they cut after a
• 39:53
  certain amount of people or
• 39:55
  a certain amount of steps or time,
• 39:57
  just because if two people
• 39:59
  extend at the same time,
• 40:01
  it would take forever to
• 40:04
  like figure out, Oh,
• 40:05
  which one actually stood up first.
• 40:07
  Let me check this, you know,
• 40:08
  the stopwatch of a judge.
• 40:09
  Like there's no way that
• 40:11
  they have an elimination style.
• 40:12
  He said, everyone finishes Chad.
• 40:14
  Everyone's going to do Chad and finish it.
• 40:16
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  Yeah.
• 40:19
  Uh, fills us in Sarah Wilkinson.
• 40:21
  His wife has spoken publicly
• 40:22
  about his training habits,
• 40:23
  including doing a thousand
• 40:25
  step ups at a time while
• 40:26
  preparing for a climb up
• 40:29
  and can congo at the
• 40:30
  tallest mountain in South America.
• 40:32
  Yeah.
• 40:35
  But this,
• 40:36
  this announcement was made as well.
• 40:39
  And it turns out that it is
• 40:43
  a clean ladder and it looks
• 40:45
  like it is an elimination
• 40:49
  from 30 to 20 to 10.
• 40:54
  Just for the workout, to be clear.
• 40:56
  Correct.
• 40:58
  Just for the workout.
• 40:59
  This is event eight.
• 41:03
  If you look at the top,
• 41:04
  individual event eight,
• 41:06
  right beside clean and jerk
• 41:08
  or clean ladder.
• 41:10
  So any thoughts about this?
• 41:13
  Two events after the first cut.
• 41:16
  And probably... No.
• 41:20
  This is the first event after the cut.
• 41:21
  First event after the cut.
• 41:28
  Sorry.
• 41:28
  I'm not surprised it's a clean ladder.
• 41:30
  I have two...
• 41:33
  Well, if it's right after Chad and I mean,
• 41:36
  they'll also done a lot of
• 41:37
  legs so far with like the
• 41:39
  running and things going on,
• 41:42
  even the night prior,
• 41:42
  like their legs are like,
• 41:44
  I think we'll be smoked going into it.
• 41:46
  I don't see like some of the
• 41:47
  people online were saying
• 41:47
  like three 85 cleans.
• 41:49
  I'm like,
• 41:49
  there's no way like Fraser clean
• 41:52
  three 80 and he was the
• 41:53
  only one to clean that.
• 41:54
  And that's, you know,
• 41:57
  on a single platform,
• 41:58
  like it's right as a speed ladder.
• 42:00
  Normally it's something that's faster.
• 42:02
  Um, I think it's out of two things,
• 42:04
  either it's the same weight
• 42:05
  for all three rounds and
• 42:07
  then it's like three, two,
• 42:09
  and then they get rid of
• 42:10
  the one bar and now it's the two, one,
• 42:11
  one, one.
• 42:12
  And then they get rid of that one.
• 42:13
  And then it's the three.
• 42:15
  And then it just, let's say it goes,
• 42:17
  I don't know,
• 42:19
  245, 275, 315, 325, 345.
• 42:20
  I don't even know.
• 42:25
  I'm just saying numbers right now.
• 42:26
  Let's say it ends around 345.
• 42:28
  You get rid of that 245.
• 42:29
  So it could be something like that,
• 42:32
  or it gets progressively,
• 42:33
  and then you start seeing
• 42:35
  the heavier weights come out.
• 42:38
  You could see either style.
• 42:39
  Just because the way that he
• 42:40
  wrote the bars, I felt like, oh,
• 42:43
  maybe they're just
• 42:44
  eliminating that top one,
• 42:45
  and it's the same weight.
• 42:48
  weight as the one one one
• 42:50
  but I could see them going
• 42:52
  heavier but not no way
• 42:53
  that's going to 385 yeah I
• 42:56
  i don't know that that
• 42:58
  would even be it wouldn't
• 43:02
  if if only a couple men are
• 43:03
  going to get the final bar
• 43:04
  if you make it something
• 43:05
  like super heavy like that
• 43:06
  is that even fun to watch
• 43:08
  like you want to see the
• 43:09
  race you want to see people
• 43:10
  move the weight
• 43:12
  Yeah, it needs to be a race.
• 43:14
  It's a speed ladder.
• 43:16
  And especially with 30 athletes to begin,
• 43:19
  you don't want half the
• 43:20
  field to also be stuck on a bar.
• 43:22
  Right.
• 43:23
  I mean, it'll probably be lighter, heavier,
• 43:28
  and then heaviest.
• 43:29
  But I don't think you're
• 43:30
  going to see numbers like
• 43:31
  we've seen in certain.
• 43:33
  In the gases?
• 43:34
  I agree.
• 43:34
  Yeah, it's too heavy.
• 43:36
  Yeah.
• 43:38
  But it just, it brings the question that,
• 43:41
  you know,
• 43:41
  you're doing a clean ladder after cuts.
• 43:44
  Last year,
• 43:45
  they also did the Olympic
• 43:46
  liftings after the first
• 43:48
  cut and some of the
• 43:49
  stronger athletes didn't
• 43:50
  maybe get to showcase their strengths.
• 43:55
  Hopefully they have some
• 43:56
  strengths being tested in
• 43:58
  events prior to number seven,
• 44:01
  because we have Chad,
• 44:02
  you have that run swim.
• 44:05
  You have some other running implements.
• 44:07
  I'm sure there's going to be
• 44:08
  some strength probably in
• 44:09
  that one involved with the mile.
• 44:11
  Just not sure how it's going
• 44:12
  to get scored.
• 44:16
  But you have to think that
• 44:17
  there's going to be
• 44:18
  cross-city events coming up.
• 44:20
  Gymnastics needs to be there.
• 44:22
  And some sort of strength
• 44:23
  needs to get tested before
• 44:25
  they get to the clean ladder.
• 44:26
  Does it?
• 44:27
  I mean, he kind of touched on that.
• 44:29
  And he's like...
• 44:30
  You have to earn your spot to lift heavy.
• 44:33
  Like we aren't just trying
• 44:34
  to find the strongest person.
• 44:36
  They're trying to find the fittest.
• 44:37
  And they don't necessarily
• 44:40
  want you if you're just the
• 44:40
  strongest person there.
• 44:41
  Like you got to get there.
• 44:42
  Then you can show us what you can lift.
• 44:45
  But to me,
• 44:45
  it's too monostructural heavy on
• 44:49
  the first part.
• 44:50
  If you don't have a strength.
• 44:54
  I think it'll be well-rounded.
• 44:55
  Yeah, it should be well-rounded.
• 44:59
  John Young says,
• 45:01
  every speed ladder they've done,
• 45:02
  it goes up in weight.
• 45:03
  I think last bar is 365.
• 45:06
  That was my guess of the
• 45:08
  weight on the – because
• 45:11
  Dave said that you could, like,
• 45:12
  predict the weights each round.
• 45:16
  That's what I guessed.
• 45:16
  I went to 365 for the last one.
• 45:18
  No more than that.
• 45:21
  Julie and I have heard kind
• 45:22
  of different subject.
• 45:24
  What did you guys think of
• 45:25
  Tommy forgetting Emma
• 45:26
  Lawson on CrossFit Games
• 45:28
  show when he listed his top 10?
• 45:31
  So if people did not see this,
• 45:33
  there was CrossFit Games
• 45:35
  put out an Instagram post
• 45:37
  where they were previewing
• 45:39
  the games and listed just like one, two,
• 45:43
  three,
• 45:43
  and it was Tommy Marquez reading it.
• 45:45
  Women to look for at the games.
• 45:47
  Emma Lawson did not appear in the top 10.
• 45:51
  Yeah,
• 45:52
  I don't think that was Tommy
• 45:53
  Marquez's picks.
• 45:54
  I think that was... I think
• 45:55
  he was just doing the narration.
• 45:58
  Right.
• 46:01
  If it was,
• 46:02
  all three of us had her in the
• 46:03
  top 10 when we did our
• 46:04
  rankings last week.
• 46:06
  So for us,
• 46:07
  we all... We all picked her to
• 46:12
  finish in the top 10.
• 46:13
  It is interesting that she was left off.
• 46:18
  Was it a...
• 46:21
  Was it somewhat out of
• 46:22
  respect for her to stop
• 46:24
  having attention brought to
• 46:25
  her name and less pressure put on her?
• 46:28
  I don't know.
• 46:32
  It could be a pressure thing, yeah.
• 46:33
  I mean,
• 46:34
  I still think you have to
• 46:35
  acknowledge her in the top 10.
• 46:36
  Pressure or no pressure.
• 46:37
  That girl's a top 10 athlete.
• 46:39
  They didn't name her,
• 46:41
  which is the biggest name,
• 46:42
  and then I was surprised
• 46:43
  they didn't name Brooke as well.
• 46:45
  It was maybe another one
• 46:46
  coming back from last year.
• 46:48
  I would have thought they would have...
• 46:51
  used her, but yeah,
• 46:52
  I was very surprised when
• 46:53
  Emma wasn't there because
• 46:55
  she's a podium threat for sure.
• 46:57
  She could even threaten for
• 47:00
  the top spot pending if Tia
• 47:02
  has a very bad weekend.
• 47:06
  Another event was announced
• 47:07
  and that is a team event
• 47:10
  which said 5x400.
• 47:11
  The picture had Big Bob and
• 47:18
  Carolyn thinks that I'm
• 47:20
  overstating that Big Bob is
• 47:21
  in the picture,
• 47:22
  and they just grabbed a picture.
• 47:25
  Jamie, you're agreeing with Carolyn?
• 47:26
  Yes.
• 47:28
  They've used two different
• 47:29
  Big Bob pictures now.
• 47:31
  So why do you keep grabbing
• 47:33
  a picture with Big Bob if
• 47:35
  that's not part of this?
• 47:38
  No, the more I thought about it,
• 47:39
  I think they are using it.
• 47:41
  But I still like...
• 47:44
  My guess that I did with you
• 47:45
  where it's like you do one
• 47:47
  part of the field.
• 47:49
  Let's say one sled.
• 47:56
  You get one part of the sled
• 47:58
  distance and then you go
• 47:59
  for a 400 meter run.
• 48:01
  Let's say two athletes, male, female.
• 48:04
  They come back.
• 48:05
  All four athletes push
• 48:06
  another part of the slide.
• 48:08
  Let's say 10 meters or
• 48:09
  whatever section 15 yards.
• 48:11
  And then the other male,
• 48:12
  female goes and then female, female, male,
• 48:14
  male,
• 48:15
  and then all four of them do the
• 48:16
  last 400.
• 48:16
  Just so that they have still
• 48:19
  close to a mile of running
• 48:21
  because in boss's interview,
• 48:23
  he says that it mimics a
• 48:24
  lot of the events of the individuals.
• 48:26
  And if they're individuals
• 48:27
  are running a mile,
• 48:28
  like you would think the
• 48:29
  teams are not just running
• 48:30
  400 meters or 800 meters.
• 48:32
  They probably have three, three to do,
• 48:35
  and then it becomes strategy.
• 48:37
  which male and female you put together,
• 48:39
  maybe on which part,
• 48:40
  who can go back to back.
• 48:42
  I think that would be cool.
• 48:45
  So Kenneth asked, is there an average Bob?
• 48:48
  I think really what's
• 48:49
  pictured is just like Bob.
• 48:52
  There was a big Bob that
• 48:53
  actually had pull-up bars
• 48:55
  on it way back in the day,
• 48:56
  but they only used it like in 15,
• 48:58
  maybe 14, 15.
• 48:59
  And then we haven't seen it since.
• 49:08
  Uh, Jay Burch thinks Carolyn is right.
• 49:10
  Uh, it's also supposed to be a relay,
• 49:12
  maybe an 800.
• 49:13
  So maybe I've looked at this wrong.
• 49:18
  Isn't it like a,
• 49:20
  like something on the field
• 49:21
  is done with something with
• 49:24
  the happy star, who knows hurdles,
• 49:26
  something.
• 49:27
  I know, no,
• 49:30
  but I'm talking about
• 49:30
  individuals right now.
• 49:31
  So, so I can mimic it to the team.
• 49:34
  Okay.
• 49:35
  Okay.
• 49:35
  So isn't there just like a
• 49:36
  workout on the field and then stop, reset,
• 49:42
  like, and then the run, the mile run?
• 49:47
  Event six says field sprint, rest 1600.
• 49:53
  Okay.
• 49:56
  So why do you think that it
• 49:59
  couldn't just be a...
• 50:01
  relay carolyn like I think I
• 50:04
  think it could it could
• 50:06
  have a buy-in on on a sled
• 50:08
  if you want and then it's a
• 50:09
  relay yeah I would love it
• 50:12
  was the bob rest relay and
• 50:15
  actually do well a five by
• 50:17
  four hundred like I legit
• 50:18
  think it could be the five
• 50:20
  by four hundred you would
• 50:21
  put your most you would put
• 50:23
  your little bit longer
• 50:24
  endurance athlete somebody
• 50:25
  who can run an 800 fast fourth
• 50:29
  and just one one one one all
• 50:32
  four it could be for sure
• 50:38
  well I'm making a decision
• 50:41
  I'm going to skip through
• 50:42
  these next two really fast
• 50:43
  because we're already at 50 minutes um
• 50:47
  CrossFit stores back.
• 50:48
  If you want to get CrossFit gear,
• 50:50
  it's available.
• 50:51
  Dave kind of said yesterday
• 50:52
  that they might even have
• 50:54
  some pop-up stores in the
• 50:56
  venue next week and week and a half.
• 51:01
  And I'm sure they'll have
• 51:03
  something in Vendor Village.
• 51:05
  The other thing is new uniforms,
• 51:07
  they were for the opening ceremonies,
• 51:09
  what it was said in the caption,
• 51:11
  but I cannot find them now.
• 51:13
  So they've been pulled down from,
• 51:15
  I can't find them on GORUCK,
• 51:17
  can't find them on TIA,
• 51:19
  can't find them on CrossFit Games.
• 51:21
  Wow.
• 51:23
  So I don't know what that means.
• 51:25
  Did Spin post them though?
• 51:27
  I feel like Spin would have
• 51:28
  an article with them.
• 51:29
  He always has.
• 51:31
  Yeah,
• 51:31
  but it's weird that I can't find them
• 51:33
  on Instagram.
• 51:34
  That is weird.
• 51:37
  Because they were definitely there.
• 51:38
  Yeah, he did have an article with Tia.
• 51:45
  So this will be fast because
• 51:47
  we really got to get
• 51:47
  through to our rankings.
• 51:51
  They're a military type.
• 51:54
  I thought the men's was more muted.
• 51:57
  And that's the only picture
• 51:58
  he has of hers.
• 52:00
  But like they showed Adler's
• 52:01
  and it was very muted
• 52:03
  compared to the women's.
• 52:06
  Yeah.
• 52:07
  But this is supposed to be
• 52:08
  opening ceremonies.
• 52:10
  So I don't know if this is
• 52:12
  for everything or just for that.
• 52:15
  Well, I would assume it'd be similar.
• 52:17
  Just maybe, like,
• 52:18
  maybe there is an all-black
• 52:19
  or an all-green or something.
• 52:21
  I mean, that's typically how it goes,
• 52:22
  right?
• 52:24
  Some variations of that
• 52:25
  opening ceremony look.
• 52:27
  So...
• 52:31
  I thought they were okay.
• 52:34
  At least they're different
• 52:35
  and not the same old, same old.
• 52:41
  Clocks is watching CrossFit
• 52:42
  team athletes dropping
• 52:43
  batons all over the track
• 52:45
  would be so much fun.
• 52:46
  That is so much harder than it looks.
• 52:49
  I would love to watch it personally.
• 52:54
  The website just says it's
• 52:55
  Tia Jersey could be exclusive for her.
• 52:58
  I did talk to Emily Rolfe,
• 53:00
  who was the first sponsored
• 53:02
  athlete by go rock.
• 53:03
  She does not have a Jersey,
• 53:06
  which I think is pretty low,
• 53:08
  but that's just me and I'm
• 53:09
  friends with Emily.
• 53:10
  And so I'm probably, you know,
• 53:15
  I have an influence there that is bias.
• 53:19
  So there's that.
• 53:22
  All right.
• 53:23
  Again,
• 53:23
  I'm going to skip past the female
• 53:25
  thing one more time.
• 53:26
  We'll do the ranking.
• 53:27
  If we have time,
• 53:28
  we'll come back to the women thing.
• 53:32
  We ranked the men from one to 40.
• 53:35
  We will count them down this
• 53:37
  week and take all abuse
• 53:40
  given when I put Saxon
• 53:42
  Pancheck number one.
• 53:45
  Just kidding.
• 53:46
  Just kidding, John Young.
• 53:49
  This was so hard too.
• 53:51
  So hard.
• 53:52
  I, I, I just had to.
• 53:57
  Yeah, it was a different way this week.
• 54:00
  So it shows up a little bit better.
• 54:03
  Yeah, I can see it.
• 54:04
  Yeah.
• 54:05
  So this is the 31 to 39.
• 54:09
  If you recall,
• 54:10
  the fifth place finisher
• 54:13
  after drug tests was unable
• 54:15
  to get a visa from Asia.
• 54:17
  So we are only going to have
• 54:18
  39 male athletes.
• 54:20
  Jamie, go ahead and start with yours.
• 54:22
  Okay, 39, Calum Clements, then Ruan Pogge,
• 54:28
  Arthur Seminov, Bruno Marans,
• 54:30
  Harry Lightfoot, Peter Ellis,
• 54:32
  Kellyanne Souza, Anul Ikai,
• 54:35
  and Cole Graysaber.
• 54:40
  Okay, 39th, I have Ruan.
• 54:42
  I have Souza in 38, Bruno in 37,
• 54:43
  Peter Ellis, Arthur Seminov,
• 54:52
  Kalem Clements.
• 54:53
  I have Victor Hoffer in 33rd.
• 54:55
  I will explain why after.
• 55:00
  Harry Lightfoot.
• 55:00
  I just don't know enough
• 55:01
  about Harry Lightfoot and
• 55:03
  Cole Grayshaber.
• 55:06
  I'll let you go, Scott,
• 55:06
  and then I'll explain.
• 55:09
  I want to know because
• 55:10
  weren't you demo teammates last year,
• 55:13
  became all chummy,
• 55:15
  and then you disrespect them like this?
• 55:17
  She might know something.
• 55:19
  I'm just kidding.
• 55:20
  So I had a seminar off 39th
• 55:23
  Ruan pot guider.
• 55:24
  I think, uh, Kalen Clements,
• 55:26
  Harry Lightfoot, Bruno Marins,
• 55:29
  Cole Sager.
• 55:30
  I just think like it's time.
• 55:33
  Uh, Kalen Sousa,
• 55:34
  Anola Kai and Peter Ellis in my, uh,
• 55:39
  bottom 10, bottom nine.
• 55:44
  Go ahead, Carolyn.
• 55:46
  He's not a great runner.
• 55:48
  Uh,
• 55:49
  He has tremendous gymnastics.
• 55:51
  On his interview with Dave,
• 55:54
  he talked about injuries to
• 55:55
  his calf and how he hasn't
• 55:58
  been able to lift the same numbers,
• 56:00
  but he's working back towards them.
• 56:02
  I think with the amount of step ups
• 56:06
  and the amount of running
• 56:07
  that is programmed prior,
• 56:08
  I think he might be,
• 56:09
  unless there's a pure
• 56:10
  gymnastics stuff that he
• 56:11
  can get a hundred points on,
• 56:12
  I think he's going to be
• 56:13
  struggling to make the cut
• 56:15
  just off these first few events,
• 56:18
  knowing that his calf has,
• 56:20
  has issued for years now.
• 56:22
  And he's talked to, he talked,
• 56:23
  if you go back to listen to
• 56:24
  Dave's interview,
• 56:25
  he talks about this injury.
• 56:27
  Um, he had a lower back problem at rogue.
• 56:30
  I just don't know where he's
• 56:31
  at with some of his,
• 56:32
  I think it was lower back problem.
• 56:34
  Could be wrong with that, but, um,
• 56:36
  with some of his injuries
• 56:37
  and where that'll put him.
• 56:39
  He's a rookie.
• 56:40
  I think in two years,
• 56:41
  he is going to be extremely
• 56:43
  competitive at the games.
• 56:44
  I think he's just needs a
• 56:46
  little bit of time and
• 56:47
  maybe healing for his, um,
• 56:49
  whatever is going on with his calf.
• 56:51
  Cause I think that's still
• 56:52
  not a hundred percent and yeah,
• 56:55
  go back and listen to that Dave one.
• 56:57
  That was the, that's what I used to
• 56:59
  put him there um I think if
• 57:01
  he was healthier he'd be
• 57:04
  much higher he has all the
• 57:05
  potential I love him he was
• 57:06
  super nice it's just based
• 57:09
  off of where I think his
• 57:10
  health is going into the
• 57:11
  games fair enough for both
• 57:14
  of you uh you don't think
• 57:16
  cole grease saber has done
• 57:17
  anything to improve I just
• 57:21
  look at the people in front
• 57:21
  of him and it's just so hard I yeah I i
• 57:27
  I guess I don't know if he's
• 57:30
  going to be good enough in the run.
• 57:33
  He was my one where I'm like,
• 57:35
  do I think he can make that first cut?
• 57:37
  And I just was like,
• 57:38
  somebody's got to be out.
• 57:40
  And you're right.
• 57:40
  It could be Cole,
• 57:41
  but I feel like Cole always sneaks in.
• 57:43
  So you'll see I have Cole
• 57:45
  very slightly higher.
• 57:46
  I don't know.
• 57:48
  There's got to be one.
• 57:49
  It was the same with Kyra.
• 57:51
  So it came down to Cole for Cole.
• 57:54
  Kind of.
• 57:56
  It's not a direct one-to-one, but yeah.
• 57:59
  Yeah.
• 58:00
  I actually only have him
• 58:01
  like two spots higher, so.
• 58:02
  Right.
• 58:03
  I just wanted to see your reaction.
• 58:05
  Okay.
• 58:06
  So we will do the next one now.
• 58:14
  If there's handstand walking beforehand,
• 58:16
  I guess he has a shot.
• 58:18
  Same with Hoffer.
• 58:20
  True.
• 58:20
  We'll start with Carolyn, 21 to 30.
• 58:24
  Luckett, Cole Sager, Luke Parker,
• 58:27
  Agnola Kai, Chris Ibera, Alex Caron,
• 58:31
  Moritz Fiebig, Jack Rosema,
• 58:33
  Hendrik Hapelainen, Sam Cornwallier.
• 58:39
  I had Caron 30th, Cole Griesaber 29th,
• 58:42
  Fiebig 28th, Hoffer.
• 58:47
  Luka Djukic, Luke Parker, Chris Ibarra,
• 58:51
  Austin Hatfield, Guy Mejeros,
• 58:54
  and Brandon Luckett.
• 58:57
  I have 30th, Luke Parker, Ben Kolsager,
• 59:00
  Chris Ibarra, Alexander Caron,
• 59:03
  Brandon Luckett, Luka Djukic,
• 59:07
  Victor Hoffer, Moritz Fiebig, Jack Rosema,
• 59:11
  and Henrik Heppelainen.
• 59:14
  I will say that...
• 59:17
  The really hard for me is like,
• 59:20
  I know Luka Jukic can run.
• 59:23
  And with what's been put out
• 59:24
  there right now, like I really,
• 59:27
  really wanted to move him
• 59:28
  up a little bit.
• 59:29
  And I just, where,
• 59:33
  like when you get into the,
• 59:34
  it's so insane.
• 59:36
  And I knew,
• 59:37
  I knew John Young was going to
• 59:38
  come at me.
• 59:39
  Hatfield slander will be
• 59:41
  remembered for all my days.
• 59:43
  I, I just want to see it at the games.
• 59:47
  I have learned in my 13
• 59:50
  years watching this sport
• 59:52
  that the semifinals or
• 59:55
  regionals is way different
• 59:56
  than the games.
• 1:00:00
  And I just,
• 1:00:00
  I need to see him perform at the games.
• 1:00:06
  Uh, Larry young Fargo could,
• 1:00:09
  if he was there.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Um,
• 1:00:19
  And Henrik, I think,
• 1:00:20
  had a good year last year, Heppelainen.
• 1:00:23
  I just think he'll have a
• 1:00:24
  little bit of a fallback
• 1:00:25
  just with how good the field is.
• 1:00:27
  I don't know.
• 1:00:27
  Maybe he won't.
• 1:00:29
  Sam Cournoyer,
• 1:00:30
  he's a tough one because
• 1:00:31
  he's so talented.
• 1:00:32
  There is a lot of running right now.
• 1:00:34
  He hasn't been traditionally
• 1:00:35
  a great runner as well.
• 1:00:38
  And he was a little bit injured last year.
• 1:00:40
  He always seems to be sick at the games.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  And until he can actually
• 1:00:46
  prove to me at the games
• 1:00:47
  and not a Wadapalooza that
• 1:00:48
  he can kind of correct there,
• 1:00:50
  I kind of just left him
• 1:00:51
  right there close to that cut line,
• 1:00:52
  which is exactly where I
• 1:00:53
  think he finished last year.
• 1:00:55
  I hope to see him make the
• 1:00:56
  cut because I think he's
• 1:00:58
  got really good potential.
• 1:01:00
  I just don't know with some
• 1:01:01
  of the events that have
• 1:01:02
  been programmed so far where he'll stack.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  And how many events before the second cut?
• 1:01:10
  Because we don't know that part, right?
• 1:01:14
  It's the end of the day on Saturday.
• 1:01:15
  So on Sunday they'll start with the 20.
• 1:01:18
  So yeah, but we, yeah, we don't know.
• 1:01:20
  We don't even know how many
• 1:01:21
  total events there are or yeah.
• 1:01:24
  My tough one here was Jack
• 1:01:25
  Rosema and it kind of goes
• 1:01:27
  like hand in hand with Hatfield.
• 1:01:28
  Like I've talked about
• 1:01:29
  Hatfield for a long time.
• 1:01:31
  I really, really like Jack.
• 1:01:33
  I really hope,
• 1:01:34
  I really hope he can make it
• 1:01:34
  to the final day.
• 1:01:37
  So, so Jack is my John's Hatfield, right?
• 1:01:42
  Yeah.
• 1:01:44
  And I think it's a good pick.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, I think – I mean,
• 1:01:49
  I even considered – yeah,
• 1:01:50
  I was stuck with Rosema and Ibera.
• 1:01:52
  I just thought with being rookies,
• 1:01:54
  like they could – those are
• 1:01:55
  two that I think really
• 1:01:56
  could propel themselves
• 1:01:58
  inside that top 20.
• 1:02:00
  But I just figured they're rookies.
• 1:02:01
  I put – I went with Hatfield
• 1:02:05
  just based off of his year –
• 1:02:09
  like a crash and a few other
• 1:02:11
  events that he's had just
• 1:02:13
  went by gut gut for him
• 1:02:17
  over those other two
• 1:02:18
  rookies that are there.
• 1:02:23
  Let's hit a couple of these comments.
• 1:02:26
  Jay Birch says,
• 1:02:27
  John Hatfield ain't got that dog.
• 1:02:28
  I don't,
• 1:02:30
  I don't necessarily agree with that.
• 1:02:32
  I just think he needs a year at the games.
• 1:02:35
  Lynn says, and Guy, Scott,
• 1:02:37
  I thought we talked about this last week.
• 1:02:39
  He's going to be top five in
• 1:02:40
  speed ladder and top 10 in sprint.
• 1:02:45
  I got to see it.
• 1:02:47
  I need to see that he's
• 1:02:48
  worked on the other stuff.
• 1:02:51
  We don't even fully know
• 1:02:52
  what the sprint is to say that.
• 1:02:54
  Right.
• 1:02:58
  Guy will be top 15 if he
• 1:02:59
  gets to the clean ladder.
• 1:03:00
  He will have another home
• 1:03:01
  run in the ladder events.
• 1:03:04
  I don't know.
• 1:03:05
  I just don't know.
• 1:03:06
  I don't have... So... There we go.
• 1:03:16
  So then let's go to the
• 1:03:17
  next... To get these to blow up,
• 1:03:22
  it is not the easiest thing to do.
• 1:03:29
  Here we go.
• 1:03:31
  I'll lead off the 11 to 20.
• 1:03:33
  I have Heinrich Heiplein in 20th,
• 1:03:36
  just barely making the cut.
• 1:03:37
  Bailey Martin with a little
• 1:03:38
  bit of a slip back this year.
• 1:03:39
  BKG, Travis Mayer, James Sprague in 16th,
• 1:03:43
  Sam Korn, 15th, Jason Hopper, 14th,
• 1:03:47
  Sam Korn, 13th, Rosema, 12th, Yellowhosta,
• 1:03:51
  11th.
• 1:03:51
  Okay.
• 1:03:55
  Me?
• 1:03:55
  Gosh, Carol,
• 1:03:56
  I cannot believe how similar
• 1:03:57
  we are on these.
• 1:03:59
  Okay, I have 20th, Travis Mayer.
• 1:04:02
  Then Hatfield, Sam Cornwaye, Gee,
• 1:04:05
  James Sprague, Bailey Martin, BKG,
• 1:04:09
  Saxon Panchik, Sam Quant, and Yala Hoste.
• 1:04:14
  Travis Mayer, another good runner.
• 1:04:17
  Luca, I had a gut instinct just for Luca,
• 1:04:20
  and I'd like to see him do
• 1:04:22
  well at the games.
• 1:04:24
  Austin Hadfield,
• 1:04:25
  I think that's my highest
• 1:04:26
  rookie finisher.
• 1:04:27
  I just think for the rookies,
• 1:04:30
  it's rare to see them get
• 1:04:31
  close to that top 10.
• 1:04:33
  We did see that last couple
• 1:04:35
  years with female athletes.
• 1:04:36
  We saw it with Yelahosta last year.
• 1:04:40
  This field just seems to be so deep.
• 1:04:42
  Could Austin finish higher?
• 1:04:43
  Maybe, but we'll see.
• 1:04:46
  Gee, Bailey Martin in 17th, BKG, Saxon,
• 1:04:50
  Yelahosta.
• 1:04:52
  James Sprague,
• 1:04:53
  I think he'll have a great year.
• 1:04:55
  I think he's looking awesome.
• 1:04:56
  Super impressed by him in the semifinals.
• 1:05:00
  And Sam Quant, 11th.
• 1:05:04
  So the big thing here is,
• 1:05:09
  I had Jason Hopper in the top 10,
• 1:05:11
  but I said last year after
• 1:05:12
  the games that I am not
• 1:05:13
  trusting him ever again.
• 1:05:15
  He burns me every year.
• 1:05:17
  And so I dropped him down
• 1:05:18
  and I looked at him as he's
• 1:05:20
  just become another Sam Quant.
• 1:05:23
  Like, depending on programming,
• 1:05:25
  he could get a top 10,
• 1:05:27
  but this is really the
• 1:05:28
  normalization of where
• 1:05:30
  Jason Hopper is going to be.
• 1:05:32
  I hope he proves me wrong
• 1:05:33
  because he has looked like
• 1:05:34
  a different athlete this year,
• 1:05:36
  but he always looks
• 1:05:36
  different in semifinals.
• 1:05:39
  I need to see it at the games.
• 1:05:42
  James Stig, I saw in the comments,
• 1:05:44
  people are like, I think he's top 10.
• 1:05:47
  Again,
• 1:05:47
  semifinals are so different than the
• 1:05:49
  games.
• 1:05:50
  It's a lot longer and...
• 1:05:53
  James has been dealing with a hip issue.
• 1:05:56
  So with that longer format at the games,
• 1:06:01
  I don't have him in the top 10.
• 1:06:03
  And with this field,
• 1:06:04
  to make the jump from not
• 1:06:06
  making the cut last year to
• 1:06:07
  making the top 10 in the
• 1:06:08
  men's side is insane.
• 1:06:11
  To me,
• 1:06:12
  he's my most improved for my male pick,
• 1:06:16
  most improved for the year.
• 1:06:17
  And my rookie of the year is
• 1:06:20
  Austin for the men.
• 1:06:21
  And I don't know if they'll
• 1:06:22
  have male and female.
• 1:06:23
  And I think I had Walton on
• 1:06:25
  the female side being my highest rookie.
• 1:06:32
  Anything from you, Jimmy?
• 1:06:33
  Hmm.
• 1:06:37
  No, I, Travis is a hard one for me.
• 1:06:40
  I always want him to,
• 1:06:41
  I always want to pick him hard,
• 1:06:43
  much higher than I have him here.
• 1:06:45
  Um,
• 1:06:47
  I'm hoping he can do enough to make it
• 1:06:48
  to the last day, but I mean, I think,
• 1:06:50
  I think what we've seen
• 1:06:51
  stacks up for him pretty well.
• 1:06:53
  Uh, but I was,
• 1:06:57
  I had hoped he would do
• 1:06:58
  better at semis than he did.
• 1:07:00
  So.
• 1:07:02
  Um, yeah.
• 1:07:04
  So what's funny is, uh,
• 1:07:07
  I'm the only one that's
• 1:07:07
  seen all three of our top
• 1:07:09
  picks and they're, they're,
• 1:07:12
  they're actually going to be very similar,
• 1:07:14
  um, when we get there.
• 1:07:15
  But, um, this talk,
• 1:07:17
  like I put out a poll
• 1:07:18
  question a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:07:20
  is this the deepest men's
• 1:07:21
  field we've ever seen?
• 1:07:22
  And I could not believe that
• 1:07:24
  it was not a hundred percent.
• 1:07:28
  Because how you get someone
• 1:07:30
  into the top 10, going in just in my mind,
• 1:07:34
  I'm thinking, yeah,
• 1:07:35
  he's a top 10 athlete.
• 1:07:37
  But I don't know where to put him.
• 1:07:41
  Now,
• 1:07:41
  the one thing you will notice is Saxon
• 1:07:44
  Pancheck has not made my list yet.
• 1:07:48
  John Young.
• 1:07:51
  Just saying.
• 1:07:52
  Saxon's still available on my top 10.
• 1:07:57
  So with that, let's go to the top 10.
• 1:08:08
  There it is.
• 1:08:10
  Bam.
• 1:08:12
  Go ahead, Jamie.
• 1:08:12
  Okay.
• 1:08:14
  10th, Jason Hopper.
• 1:08:16
  9th, Lazard Jujkic.
• 1:08:17
  Jay Crouch, Brent Fikowski, Dalen Pepper,
• 1:08:20
  Justin Medeiros, Pat Bellner,
• 1:08:23
  Roman Kronikoff, Ricky Garrard,
• 1:08:25
  Jeff Adler.
• 1:08:29
  I'll go.
• 1:08:30
  Jay Crouch, Lazar, Jason Hopper, Dallin,
• 1:08:34
  Brent Fikowski, Justin Medeiros.
• 1:08:36
  I think we'll have a great
• 1:08:37
  bounce back here.
• 1:08:39
  Roman Krennikoff, Pat Vellner,
• 1:08:42
  Ricky Gerard, and Jeff Adler.
• 1:08:45
  And I went Lazar Jukic, Brent Fikowski,
• 1:08:47
  Saxon Panczek, Jay Crouch, Dallin Pepper,
• 1:08:51
  Roman Krennikoff, Justin Medeiros,
• 1:08:53
  Pat Vellner, Ricky Gerard, Jeff Adler.
• 1:08:56
  So we all have Jeff Adler
• 1:08:58
  and Ricky Garrard 1-2.
• 1:09:00
  What shocked me to death is
• 1:09:02
  the biggest Pat Vellner fan
• 1:09:04
  does not have him in the top three.
• 1:09:07
  I'm, like, so sad about this right now.
• 1:09:09
  What the heck, guys?
• 1:09:11
  So I thought a lot about
• 1:09:13
  what Carolyn said with last
• 1:09:16
  year's programming was
• 1:09:18
  super upper body pulling, like,
• 1:09:20
  great for Gazan.
• 1:09:21
  And it's true for Pat, too.
• 1:09:23
  And it makes me think, like,
• 1:09:25
  will we see different programming?
• 1:09:26
  And, like, what if it goes back to, like,
• 1:09:29
  the year before was so,
• 1:09:30
  so shoulder intensive?
• 1:09:31
  And we know Pat starts to
• 1:09:32
  struggle in those long
• 1:09:33
  shoulder endurance stuff.
• 1:09:34
  So I started thinking if we just get –
• 1:09:37
  a shit ton of shoulder
• 1:09:39
  overheads or snatches.
• 1:09:40
  I mean,
• 1:09:42
  is he going to pull out another
• 1:09:45
  podium finish?
• 1:09:45
  And it just, it scares me.
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  I just, I don't know.
• 1:09:48
  It's got to line up for him good.
• 1:09:49
  And I don't know that it's
• 1:09:50
  going to be a bunch of
• 1:09:51
  upper body pulling again this year.
• 1:09:53
  I think that's extremely
• 1:09:54
  valid points that you're making.
• 1:09:57
  I struggled a little bit with Brent.
• 1:10:00
  I wanted to put him,
• 1:10:01
  I think closer towards the 10th.
• 1:10:03
  I went with just Brent,
• 1:10:04
  history a little bit and
• 1:10:05
  just where I think he was
• 1:10:06
  last year and he said he's
• 1:10:07
  feeling the healthiest this
• 1:10:08
  year but I feel like he
• 1:10:09
  said that every year and
• 1:10:10
  he's had issues with his
• 1:10:12
  knees or hamstring or
• 1:10:13
  something like that um my
• 1:10:15
  heart went with pat and on
• 1:10:16
  the podium over roman so I
• 1:10:19
  couldn't put pat off the
• 1:10:20
  podium um yeah I think all
• 1:10:23
  of these guys are gonna be
• 1:10:25
  battling really um all weekend long
• 1:10:29
  So here's my big take.
• 1:10:31
  I've said Jeff Adler for two years, right?
• 1:10:35
  I think he's the most
• 1:10:35
  well-rounded athlete there
• 1:10:37
  is in the sport right now.
• 1:10:40
  There's something deep
• 1:10:42
  inside of me that believes
• 1:10:44
  that Justin is taking all of this stuff,
• 1:10:48
  bottling it up,
• 1:10:49
  and is going to have
• 1:10:50
  another great year and
• 1:10:52
  watch him quietly win the
• 1:10:54
  games for the third time.
• 1:10:58
  I just,
• 1:10:59
  nobody paid attention to him the
• 1:11:01
  entire semifinal,
• 1:11:02
  and at the end of the weekend, he won.
• 1:11:06
  Just like he did the other
• 1:11:07
  two years at the games.
• 1:11:10
  He is being quiet about all this stuff,
• 1:11:12
  and I truly think he is
• 1:11:15
  back to having some fun with this,
• 1:11:17
  and he's back to the old Justin,
• 1:11:20
  and it would not shock me
• 1:11:22
  because nobody is putting
• 1:11:23
  Justin Medeiros on the podium.
• 1:11:25
  I've watched every show.
• 1:11:28
  Nobody has Justin on the, in the podium.
• 1:11:31
  I think that's because, well, like we've,
• 1:11:34
  he just doesn't seem to have home runs.
• 1:11:36
  Like he might be consistent, but I,
• 1:11:38
  I think with this field,
• 1:11:39
  you're going to have to have someone like,
• 1:11:41
  you know, there's an event Jeff can win.
• 1:11:43
  And we know that, like,
• 1:11:46
  I don't know if we can say
• 1:11:48
  that about Justin.
• 1:11:48
  And I think that's why it's
• 1:11:49
  hard to give him a even podium.
• 1:11:51
  Like,
• 1:11:52
  We have him in fourth or fifth,
• 1:11:54
  basically all of us.
• 1:11:55
  But to say he's going to
• 1:11:56
  even get third is tough if
• 1:11:59
  you can't say he can win
• 1:12:01
  one or two events.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah,
• 1:12:05
  seventh best and everything won't be
• 1:12:06
  good enough, exactly.
• 1:12:09
  Sarah Cooper says, please no.
• 1:12:11
  Winning overall but not
• 1:12:12
  winning an event annoys me
• 1:12:14
  for no valid reason.
• 1:12:17
  It annoys me for no reason.
• 1:12:19
  But there's something
• 1:12:20
  telling me that that's what
• 1:12:22
  this is going to be this year.
• 1:12:24
  I think you're going to have
• 1:12:25
  to win an event this year with this feel.
• 1:12:27
  It's so deep that you need
• 1:12:28
  to win an event.
• 1:12:34
  To me, this past year,
• 1:12:35
  the Rogue Invitational,
• 1:12:37
  the other competitions,
• 1:12:38
  I think Roman had a quieter offseason.
• 1:12:43
  I thought he was going to be
• 1:12:44
  a little bit more dominant at semifinals.
• 1:12:47
  I normally would have had him probably
• 1:12:50
  in first or second,
• 1:12:51
  but I just haven't seen
• 1:12:52
  that in him this past year,
• 1:12:54
  but maybe he'll turn it on
• 1:12:56
  at the games like he did
• 1:12:57
  last year and everything
• 1:12:58
  will be peaking at the right time,
• 1:13:00
  which is what you want to
• 1:13:01
  do as an athlete.
• 1:13:03
  Yeah.
• 1:13:04
  I mean, it's a solid list.
• 1:13:06
  I think you're right.
• 1:13:08
  Scott, like Justin could be on the podium.
• 1:13:10
  Do I see him winning?
• 1:13:11
  I don't know.
• 1:13:13
  He is very consistent.
• 1:13:15
  He's looking good in his training.
• 1:13:17
  He's looking, he looked good at semis.
• 1:13:20
  I'd be happy for him to do that comeback.
• 1:13:23
  It's like the magic goatee
• 1:13:24
  came in and took over.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  I just, I couldn't,
• 1:13:32
  this is where I've been all year,
• 1:13:34
  so I didn't want to change
• 1:13:35
  it up too much at the top.
• 1:13:37
  But that's really how I'm
• 1:13:39
  feeling at this point in
• 1:13:41
  the season is I just think he's going to,
• 1:13:45
  he's going to have a great
• 1:13:45
  year and I have not Justin
• 1:13:48
  fan through this whole thing.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah, that's true.
• 1:13:53
  Did you also submit your spin pool?
• 1:13:55
  I did.
• 1:13:56
  Did you spend exactly this 40?
• 1:13:59
  Exactly this.
• 1:13:59
  Wow.
• 1:14:01
  I have mine's I think a little different.
• 1:14:04
  I don't think much, but yeah,
• 1:14:06
  I knew we were doing this.
• 1:14:07
  So I just screenshot it as I
• 1:14:08
  went through it.
• 1:14:10
  So that I could,
• 1:14:11
  it just made it easier with
• 1:14:12
  all my travel this weekend.
• 1:14:16
  So with all of our women's
• 1:14:17
  picks and men's picks,
• 1:14:19
  who's your rookie of the
• 1:14:20
  year and who's your most improved?
• 1:14:27
  I believe Grace Wallen is
• 1:14:28
  also my rookie of the year women.
• 1:14:31
  And I think,
• 1:14:32
  so Hatfield would be my rookie
• 1:14:34
  of the year here in 19th.
• 1:14:38
  Do you have someone that is
• 1:14:39
  your most improved?
• 1:14:42
  That just jumped up from before?
• 1:14:50
  I don't know.
• 1:14:50
  It'd probably be James.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  I, uh,
• 1:14:59
  I I'm just going by memory cause I
• 1:15:01
  don't remember where I put them, but I,
• 1:15:04
  I do have Hattie pretty
• 1:15:05
  high on the women's side.
• 1:15:06
  I think I have her 15th.
• 1:15:07
  Uh, and I, that's ahead of grace.
• 1:15:10
  Um, gosh, just trying to,
• 1:15:12
  there's so many rookies.
• 1:15:14
  Like I know,
• 1:15:14
  I feel like I'm forgetting somebody.
• 1:15:18
  How high did you have Jack Rosamond?
• 1:15:21
  Jack was 15th, I think.
• 1:15:23
  13th.
• 1:15:25
  So he would be your rookie.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah,
• 1:15:28
  Rosamund would be my rookie of the year.
• 1:15:32
  And then most improved,
• 1:15:34
  I think I'd have to go with John Young.
• 1:15:36
  I think Abby Doman I have
• 1:15:37
  jump in the most.
• 1:15:42
  Yeah, I have her pretty high.
• 1:15:44
  That might be more than a
• 1:15:45
  James Sprague for me.
• 1:15:46
  I'm not sure.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, I think I have her eighth.
• 1:15:51
  Oh, I don't have her that high.
• 1:15:52
  Yeah.
• 1:15:53
  I have her with a big jump,
• 1:15:54
  so I think that's my most improved.
• 1:15:57
  And my comeback player of
• 1:15:58
  the year is Saxon Panjack.
• 1:16:02
  I mean,
• 1:16:02
  your comeback would technically be
• 1:16:03
  Justin on these picks.
• 1:16:07
  Well,
• 1:16:08
  Saxon came back from not even being
• 1:16:09
  at the games.
• 1:16:10
  That's true.
• 1:16:13
  Mine, I guess,
• 1:16:13
  would be Hopper for a comeback.
• 1:16:18
  I don't think like Hopper
• 1:16:19
  would be most improved
• 1:16:20
  because he's already been
• 1:16:21
  in the top 10 before, like,
• 1:16:22
  I think he got six or seven, six,
• 1:16:24
  seven to one year.
• 1:16:25
  So to me it would be if
• 1:16:27
  you're consistently lower
• 1:16:28
  and then you made a big jump to me,
• 1:16:31
  that's what most improve is,
• 1:16:32
  but it could be off your last year,
• 1:16:33
  but I don't know.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Uh, Larry young, thank you for the 4 99.
• 1:16:38
  I borrow is rookie men, rookie men's.
• 1:16:42
  Um, and they're right.
• 1:16:43
  I Ricky would, if I go with,
• 1:16:44
  it wasn't there to where
• 1:16:46
  they are at Ricky.
• 1:16:47
  I have second, right?
• 1:16:49
  yeah we all do so yeah uh
• 1:16:58
  how many more events will
• 1:16:59
  get released before the
• 1:17:00
  games you think three three
• 1:17:07
  that's a lot I don't know
• 1:17:15
  uh jonathan most improved
• 1:17:17
  from not attending the
• 1:17:17
  games to winning the games
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, you're right.
• 1:17:24
  Can you give a seven-time
• 1:17:27
  champion most improved?
• 1:17:31
  No.
• 1:17:36
  Anyway, I think three is too much,
• 1:17:39
  but are these really released events?
• 1:17:42
  Because we still don't know
• 1:17:43
  anything about them.
• 1:17:46
  I think Dave wants people talking.
• 1:17:48
  Right.
• 1:17:51
  I think it's great that I mean,
• 1:17:52
  a lot of the athletes don't
• 1:17:54
  like them released.
• 1:17:55
  I like them when they're released.
• 1:17:56
  Personally,
• 1:17:57
  I don't mind practicing some stuff.
• 1:18:00
  But it does get, you know,
• 1:18:03
  people talking about them
• 1:18:04
  people speculating about
• 1:18:05
  the movements or what it can be.
• 1:18:06
  I think this is positive,
• 1:18:08
  right without giving exact
• 1:18:10
  details on the workouts.
• 1:18:12
  I think it's, it's good.
• 1:18:15
  Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  They're teasers, or appetizers.
• 1:18:24
  I just think it's
• 1:18:25
  interesting that the team
• 1:18:26
  workouts will be close.
• 1:18:28
  Not all of them,
• 1:18:29
  but Bosman did say that
• 1:18:31
  they were close to the individuals.
• 1:18:35
  I just wonder how they go
• 1:18:36
  about programming that.
• 1:18:37
  Does Boz have to wait for
• 1:18:39
  Dave to program the
• 1:18:40
  individual ones so that he
• 1:18:42
  can do similar ones that works?
• 1:18:44
  I think that would be interesting to see.
• 1:18:48
  ask Boz on how they work on
• 1:18:49
  their programming so that they have,
• 1:18:52
  you know,
• 1:18:53
  similar concepts or are
• 1:18:54
  utilizing the rings on the
• 1:18:56
  same workouts and just equipment stuff.
• 1:18:59
  Right.
• 1:19:01
  And he did say that they're
• 1:19:02
  going to mimic some of the
• 1:19:03
  things that they're doing.
• 1:19:06
  So if Dave is programming the individuals,
• 1:19:08
  I would assume that Boz has
• 1:19:10
  to wait a little bit for
• 1:19:12
  some of the information and
• 1:19:13
  then try to think of something,
• 1:19:14
  but I could be wrong.
• 1:19:17
  Yeah, I agree.
• 1:19:18
  That is an interesting take because,
• 1:19:20
  I mean,
• 1:19:20
  he did say they're like separate
• 1:19:21
  and Boz is doing team, but...
• 1:19:26
  is he really for one and for two,
• 1:19:28
  I feel like it,
• 1:19:29
  it makes the most sense to
• 1:19:32
  mimic that workout as much as possible.
• 1:19:34
  One, just for setting up the field,
• 1:19:36
  but the people that just watched,
• 1:19:39
  if you get new people watching,
• 1:19:40
  at least if you watched the individual,
• 1:19:42
  which is usually a little
• 1:19:43
  bit easier to follow,
• 1:19:45
  then you understand what's
• 1:19:46
  happening in the team a little easier.
• 1:19:47
  If it's a very, if it's a similar workout,
• 1:19:49
  when you just throw a whole
• 1:19:50
  nother workout out there,
• 1:19:51
  people are like,
• 1:19:53
  Like last year was so confusing.
• 1:19:54
  There was workouts out there.
• 1:19:55
  I was like, man,
• 1:19:56
  I hope people are not
• 1:19:57
  watching this on TV right now.
• 1:19:59
  Like I would be lost.
• 1:20:02
  Yeah.
• 1:20:04
  Some of the team events in
• 1:20:05
  the last couple of years
• 1:20:05
  have been really hard,
• 1:20:08
  really hard to watch.
• 1:20:09
  They're fun to do.
• 1:20:10
  They're great tests,
• 1:20:11
  but they're not just not
• 1:20:14
  watchable sometimes.
• 1:20:16
  Right.
• 1:20:16
  Kenneth says, I want a full-blown release,
• 1:20:18
  all details,
• 1:20:19
  a video of demo team doing the workout,
• 1:20:21
  the whole kit and caboodle.
• 1:20:23
  And the response to that
• 1:20:24
  from Jonathan Ortega, hold the phone.
• 1:20:27
  It's kit and caboodle,
• 1:20:28
  not kitten caboodle?
• 1:20:30
  Yeah, it's kit and caboodle, yes.
• 1:20:35
  I've never heard of either, so.
• 1:20:40
  Oh, that's funny.
• 1:20:42
  Larry Young says, it's only 11 days away.
• 1:20:47
  So I think he's saying three
• 1:20:50
  more events in 11 days is a lot to ask.
• 1:20:56
  Did you ever have a caboodle, Carolyn?
• 1:20:59
  I have no idea what you guys
• 1:21:00
  are talking about.
• 1:21:01
  Oh, God.
• 1:21:03
  Pull up a caboodle, please, Scott.
• 1:21:06
  It's like your little
• 1:21:09
  container for makeup or whatever.
• 1:21:12
  You put hair thing.
• 1:21:13
  I don't know.
• 1:21:13
  You put whatever in it.
• 1:21:15
  caboodle yeah maybe if I see
• 1:21:17
  it I don't know I never
• 1:21:19
  call it up scott what the
• 1:21:21
  heck is a caboodle oh god
• 1:21:24
  it might be that old um wow
• 1:21:34
  okay I didn't know what one
• 1:21:35
  of these I just I've heard
• 1:21:36
  the phrase oh gee but I
• 1:21:39
  have uh never I didn't know
• 1:21:41
  it was a thing
• 1:21:44
  So a caboodle is this like
• 1:21:47
  kit that you put all your makeup in.
• 1:21:50
  Yeah.
• 1:21:50
  Okay.
• 1:21:52
  My sister's had them.
• 1:21:53
  Not me.
• 1:21:56
  So that is a caboodle.
• 1:21:57
  And it actually starts with a C,
• 1:21:59
  not a K. Yeah.
• 1:22:02
  I feel,
• 1:22:03
  I sort of feel like maybe the
• 1:22:04
  phrase is older than this.
• 1:22:06
  And then the caboodle got named because of,
• 1:22:09
  I don't know.
• 1:22:09
  I'm not sure.
• 1:22:11
  This is the Kitten Caboodle
• 1:22:14
  Doodle Edition.
• 1:22:19
  Can't say I put my makeup in
• 1:22:20
  there growing up.
• 1:22:23
  I'm pretty sure I had one.
• 1:22:25
  It looks like what I used to
• 1:22:26
  put fishing lures in.
• 1:22:27
  Yeah, yes.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah.
• 1:22:32
  Like a tackle box, exactly what it is.
• 1:22:34
  There you go, Jeff Birchfield.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah, wow.
• 1:22:39
  Wow.
• 1:22:42
  Well, do we want to hit this last topic?
• 1:22:44
  We've had it in here for two weeks.
• 1:22:47
  Let's hit it real quick,
• 1:22:48
  and then maybe we run it over next week.
• 1:22:51
  So when Andrew Hiller did
• 1:22:53
  his top 10 based on social
• 1:22:58
  media followers,
• 1:23:02
  it was incredibly lopsided
• 1:23:08
  to the women had way more
• 1:23:10
  followers than the men.
• 1:23:13
  And then he said with that,
• 1:23:15
  and he just threw this out as,
• 1:23:17
  if there are more followers
• 1:23:18
  for the women in this sport,
• 1:23:21
  should the women get paid
• 1:23:22
  more than the men?
• 1:23:25
  Because that has been the
• 1:23:26
  concept in the reverse for
• 1:23:31
  a lot of the sports that
• 1:23:31
  have been going on,
• 1:23:32
  that men get paid more
• 1:23:34
  because more people watch,
• 1:23:36
  more people follow.
• 1:23:38
  But yet in this sport that has been equal,
• 1:23:41
  more people are following the women.
• 1:23:45
  So should the women get paid more?
• 1:23:51
  I mean,
• 1:23:51
  I think naturally they will based
• 1:23:54
  on sponsorships because of
• 1:23:56
  their following.
• 1:23:57
  So that'd be the only thing I would say.
• 1:24:00
  Do I think there,
• 1:24:01
  do I think the first place
• 1:24:03
  women's check should be
• 1:24:05
  350,000 and the first place
• 1:24:06
  men's should be 250 or 300?
• 1:24:07
  No.
• 1:24:07
  Yeah, I agree.
• 1:24:10
  They're already getting the money.
• 1:24:12
  based off of sponsorships
• 1:24:13
  and stuff like that.
• 1:24:14
  They're already making more
• 1:24:15
  naturally in the sport than the men do.
• 1:24:18
  So let me take that a step further.
• 1:24:20
  If you're CrossFit and the
• 1:24:24
  women are being followed
• 1:24:25
  more than the men,
• 1:24:27
  should you make sure that
• 1:24:30
  the women have prime spots on ESPN,
• 1:24:33
  that the women have...
• 1:24:35
  prime locations of in the
• 1:24:37
  weekend that they are being
• 1:24:39
  featured because it it does
• 1:24:41
  seem very much that the men
• 1:24:42
  are talked about a lot and
• 1:24:45
  the women still a lot but
• 1:24:48
  not quite as much for what
• 1:24:51
  you're seeing in these
• 1:24:52
  numbers and it's you'd
• 1:24:54
  almost have to see like the
• 1:24:55
  streaming numbers for for
• 1:24:57
  both as well which we don't know yeah
• 1:25:04
  Because the reason I say
• 1:25:05
  that is I had Holly go back
• 1:25:08
  and grab who was the final
• 1:25:11
  event for all of the CrossFit Games.
• 1:25:17
  And in 2007, they went at the same time.
• 1:25:21
  But then in 2008,
• 1:25:22
  it was women doing grace.
• 1:25:25
  2009 to 2014, it was the men.
• 1:25:30
  And he's talking about the
• 1:25:32
  men are always ending the games.
• 1:25:33
  Yes.
• 1:25:35
  So they're the main event type thing.
• 1:25:38
  Then in 2015, the women ended the games.
• 1:25:40
  2016 to 2019, it was the men again.
• 1:25:41
  2020, we were the small ranch games.
• 1:25:44
  They both went at the same
• 1:25:46
  time because that was the Atalanta.
• 1:25:47
  And then 21 and 22,
• 1:25:50
  the women finished the games and 23,
• 1:25:51
  the men finished the games.
• 1:26:07
  Don't they alternate every
• 1:26:08
  year who starts and who leaves the day?
• 1:26:12
  I had Holly do the research.
• 1:26:14
  I know.
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  I understand.
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  And I'm kind of wondering if
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  some of those years they
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  just didn't like... Because
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  I know I can picture in the
• 1:26:21
  past they've like...
• 1:26:23
  Say the women started the odd years.
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  They would do heats one and
• 1:26:28
  two or however many.
• 1:26:29
  If there's three heats,
• 1:26:31
  then they would do heats one and two,
• 1:26:33
  wait, let the men go,
• 1:26:35
  and then the last heat of
• 1:26:36
  the women would go.
• 1:26:37
  So Holly did that research.
• 1:26:42
  The last heat has been men
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  the majority of the time.
• 1:26:47
  11 to 4,
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  I think I counted on your stat sheet.
• 1:26:51
  just interesting like I you
• 1:26:52
  would think that they would
• 1:26:53
  rotate every year like I
• 1:26:54
  don't think it matters but
• 1:26:55
  you would think that they
• 1:26:56
  would go one year it's the
• 1:26:57
  men that finish one year
• 1:26:58
  it's the woman that finish
• 1:26:59
  um but it's just
• 1:27:02
  interesting that the men
• 1:27:04
  often finish the events not
• 1:27:07
  on different days because
• 1:27:08
  like it'll be the woman on
• 1:27:09
  like they'll change every
• 1:27:11
  other day but always the
• 1:27:12
  last day typically in in
• 1:27:15
  the history is what we're
• 1:27:16
  seeing is the men will end the games
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  Which is just, like, I don't know.
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  I would argue, though,
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  that even if the men, like,
• 1:27:26
  if the men had heats one
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  and two and then all three
• 1:27:29
  heats of the women finish,
• 1:27:31
  or two heats or however many there is,
• 1:27:32
  or four heats for one year, like,
• 1:27:35
  that breakup to put the men
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  then at the end, like,
• 1:27:39
  you maybe got more eyes on
• 1:27:40
  that full group of women.
• 1:27:45
  I don't know.
• 1:27:47
  I don't know.
• 1:27:49
  It was just a thought.
• 1:27:50
  We don't have hard data to go with this,
• 1:27:53
  but it was just Andrew
• 1:27:54
  threw it out when he did
• 1:27:56
  that based on social media following.
• 1:27:59
  We don't have the views on
• 1:28:01
  the stream during those events.
• 1:28:03
  That would be the telltale sign.
• 1:28:08
  But I for sure think that
• 1:28:09
  they should be paid even.
• 1:28:10
  I think people in our sport
• 1:28:13
  are invested in both the
• 1:28:15
  men and the women field, I think,
• 1:28:16
  equally.
• 1:28:20
  I like the fact that it's
• 1:28:22
  equal in our sport because
• 1:28:23
  that's not the case in most sports.
• 1:28:25
  I like that.
• 1:28:29
  I know when I was young,
• 1:28:31
  female tennis was more
• 1:28:32
  popular than male tennis.
• 1:28:38
  I don't think that the pay
• 1:28:41
  back in the 80s and 90s
• 1:28:43
  translated to that.
• 1:28:46
  I think Billie Jean King
• 1:28:47
  worked really hard to get
• 1:28:48
  the women's pay basically even, I think,
• 1:28:51
  or pretty close to even with the men.
• 1:28:58
  Because there was a while,
• 1:28:59
  like I was really into women's tennis,
• 1:29:03
  and the men's game was just
• 1:29:04
  boring because it was just
• 1:29:06
  about the serve.
• 1:29:07
  And the women actually
• 1:29:09
  volleyed a lot more back then.
• 1:29:14
  you're and john young's
• 1:29:15
  probably serena probably
• 1:29:16
  has made more money than
• 1:29:17
  any tennis player ever but
• 1:29:20
  that is not just from
• 1:29:21
  winnings that is from like
• 1:29:22
  she is a global company
• 1:29:26
  herself right um and and
• 1:29:32
  the williams sisters did a
• 1:29:33
  lot to advance tennis for
• 1:29:35
  for women so yeah
• 1:29:39
  And you're right.
• 1:29:40
  She should have.
• 1:29:41
  She should have made more
• 1:29:43
  money than anybody.
• 1:29:46
  It was just something to
• 1:29:47
  throw out there because of
• 1:29:48
  what was said in a fleeting
• 1:29:50
  moment on a post.
• 1:29:52
  And I just was like, well,
• 1:29:53
  let's try to find some
• 1:29:54
  numbers to back that up or
• 1:29:57
  how things have gone.
• 1:29:58
  I think my biggest concern
• 1:30:01
  with it is these are
• 1:30:03
  numbers that CrossFit
• 1:30:04
  should be looking at.
• 1:30:05
  And I wish I had the
• 1:30:06
  confidence to know that
• 1:30:07
  that's what they were doing.
• 1:30:10
  You know what I mean?
• 1:30:11
  Like, look at the streaming numbers.
• 1:30:13
  Are they lining up the
• 1:30:15
  events so that the most
• 1:30:16
  popular things are being
• 1:30:18
  shown in the most popular time,
• 1:30:20
  in the featured times?
• 1:30:24
  Yeah.
• 1:30:26
  I mean,
• 1:30:26
  I don't even know that they look at
• 1:30:28
  viewership or any of that.
• 1:30:30
  I mean,
• 1:30:31
  they've made a lot of poor
• 1:30:32
  decisions in regards to
• 1:30:33
  trying to increase viewership.
• 1:30:36
  Like,
• 1:30:36
  I know they can't really do a lot with
• 1:30:41
  the Olympics right now, but like,
• 1:30:42
  it's not a great time to
• 1:30:44
  have the games going on.
• 1:30:46
  I mean,
• 1:30:46
  maybe you needed to move it up two
• 1:30:48
  weeks this year.
• 1:30:49
  Yeah.
• 1:30:51
  I had that question in there.
• 1:30:53
  Are you going to feel torn
• 1:30:55
  with the games and Olympics
• 1:30:57
  going on at the same time as a viewer?
• 1:31:01
  Yeah.
• 1:31:01
  I mean,
• 1:31:02
  and then it's the same with the Masters.
• 1:31:04
  Like, I swear they're hoping that,
• 1:31:07
  they're trying to prove
• 1:31:08
  that it's going to fail.
• 1:31:09
  Well, yeah,
• 1:31:10
  you've put it all on the same
• 1:31:11
  weekend where your entire,
• 1:31:14
  all the people trying to
• 1:31:15
  watch have to split between
• 1:31:18
  your teens and your Masters.
• 1:31:21
  Like, that's just silly.
• 1:31:24
  That's not how you grow.
• 1:31:26
  And be like, see, we told you.
• 1:31:27
  And all the other people
• 1:31:28
  that are trying to be like, well,
• 1:31:29
  you guys keep asking for it,
• 1:31:30
  but you can't go.
• 1:31:31
  No, people can't go.
• 1:31:32
  They can't even go.
• 1:31:33
  Moms and daughters can't even go together.
• 1:31:35
  Like, it's terrible.
• 1:31:38
  I am glad they're at least streaming,
• 1:31:41
  live streaming the Masters
• 1:31:42
  and Adaptive and Teens,
• 1:31:44
  as they wrote on their Instagram.
• 1:31:46
  So that's a positive.
• 1:31:48
  And Sean Woodland did get
• 1:31:49
  picked up for the Masters.
• 1:31:50
  He got recruited.
• 1:31:53
  Yeah,
• 1:31:53
  we knew that would happen pretty quickly.
• 1:31:55
  Yeah.
• 1:32:00
  It looks like a lot of
• 1:32:01
  people are not torn.
• 1:32:02
  They're going to use IG for
• 1:32:04
  the Olympics and watch the CrossFit,
• 1:32:07
  but we're a bunch of CrossFit nerds here.
• 1:32:09
  Yeah.
• 1:32:13
  Well, and I'll be honest.
• 1:32:14
  I am not the Olympic fanatic
• 1:32:16
  that some people are.
• 1:32:17
  I will watch pretty heavily
• 1:32:19
  through the swimming
• 1:32:20
  because that's what I did for so long.
• 1:32:22
  And then when they get to track and field,
• 1:32:24
  I'll start to hit a burnout
• 1:32:26
  during that week of like a
• 1:32:27
  week and a half of trying
• 1:32:28
  to catch everything.
• 1:32:29
  And then rugby's not as cool
• 1:32:32
  as I thought it was.
• 1:32:32
  And fencing, well,
• 1:32:34
  maybe not as exciting as I
• 1:32:35
  thought it was in week one.
• 1:32:36
  And I'll probably just dive
• 1:32:38
  over to the CrossFit.
• 1:32:39
  But
• 1:32:41
  Yeah, I'll be watching both,
• 1:32:43
  but I want to make sure my
• 1:32:44
  heat one picks are in line.
• 1:32:46
  So I got to I got to be
• 1:32:48
  paying attention to the
• 1:32:49
  games workouts as well.
• 1:32:50
  I just hope that the Wi-Fi
• 1:32:52
  at the arena is better than Madison.
• 1:32:55
  Do it the night before.
• 1:32:56
  But a lot of the Olympic
• 1:32:59
  stuff are very early in the morning.
• 1:33:01
  So it could work from where
• 1:33:04
  I am right now in California.
• 1:33:05
  So I think I'll be able to
• 1:33:07
  watch both of them.
• 1:33:08
  As an old man,
• 1:33:09
  I love that I get to watch
• 1:33:11
  the primetime Olympic events at 2 p.m.
• 1:33:16
  It doesn't affect my bedtime.
• 1:33:18
  It doesn't affect anything.
• 1:33:19
  I love it.
• 1:33:24
  Larry, who's not going?
• 1:33:27
  I don't feel like there's
• 1:33:29
  any masters that were going
• 1:33:31
  that are not going now.
• 1:33:34
  Yeah, everyone I've talked to is going.
• 1:33:40
  So, yeah.
• 1:33:44
  I mean,
• 1:33:44
  if you're talking like someone like Rich,
• 1:33:46
  we always knew he wasn't
• 1:33:47
  going to be going.
• 1:33:48
  He wasn't even.
• 1:33:50
  Yeah,
• 1:33:50
  it's a full docket at the Masters games.
• 1:33:54
  Yeah.
• 1:33:55
  What helped is they kept at
• 1:33:56
  least the same prizing money, right,
• 1:33:58
  for the Masters as past years.
• 1:34:00
  Had that gone down,
• 1:34:01
  I think you would see a
• 1:34:02
  difference in maybe some of
• 1:34:03
  the international athletes
• 1:34:04
  that would travel.
• 1:34:06
  The only person that I knew
• 1:34:08
  was in question is Will Morad,
• 1:34:10
  but it's due to an injury,
• 1:34:11
  not to anything else.
• 1:34:13
  Right.
• 1:34:13
  Yeah.
• 1:34:17
  But everybody else I've
• 1:34:18
  talked to is going.
• 1:34:19
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:34:27
  So there we go.
• 1:34:33
  John Young is saying that if
• 1:34:34
  he can get it in, I can get it in.
• 1:34:36
  I just wait until the last minute.
• 1:34:37
  I will admit, I am not the best planner.
• 1:34:42
  And I'm going alone this year,
• 1:34:44
  so I have nobody to be on
• 1:34:45
  my butt about getting all
• 1:34:49
  this stuff done.
• 1:34:50
  I may show up at the games
• 1:34:51
  mid-afternoon because I
• 1:34:52
  just am not put together.
• 1:34:58
  This will be the first time
• 1:34:59
  in a long time I don't have someone to
• 1:35:04
  Make sure I don't forget stuff.
• 1:35:07
  I feel so bad next year.
• 1:35:10
  We're going to have a good
• 1:35:11
  team there though.
• 1:35:14
  With that guys, it's been fun tonight.
• 1:35:17
  Rip apart our picks.
• 1:35:20
  Uh, it was really hard.
• 1:35:21
  It was so hard,
• 1:35:22
  much harder to do the men than the women.
• 1:35:24
  Uh, it is such a deep field.
• 1:35:27
  It's going to be a fun
• 1:35:28
  competition to watch.
• 1:35:31
  so much fun it's going to be
• 1:35:32
  a just like the olympics
• 1:35:33
  have come down to like
• 1:35:36
  hundreds of a second this
• 1:35:38
  men's competition is going
• 1:35:40
  to come down as a nail
• 1:35:41
  biter to the end you know
• 1:35:43
  it so can't wait all right
• 1:35:51
  I'll be about it john
• 1:35:54
  And I'm going to finish with this.
• 1:35:56
  I had Caitlin Johnson on on Friday.
• 1:35:59
  I've been watching swimming.
• 1:36:00
  I want to get back in the pool.
• 1:36:02
  The dog is coming back out in me.
• 1:36:06
  I want to supplement my
• 1:36:08
  training with some swimming again.
• 1:36:12
  One,
• 1:36:12
  I think it'll do wonders for my
• 1:36:13
  recovery and help this old
• 1:36:16
  body mend faster and
• 1:36:19
  Just by doing some non-impact stuff.
• 1:36:24
  Now I just got to find the
• 1:36:25
  pool that is open
• 1:36:26
  consistently that will
• 1:36:27
  allow me to do that.
• 1:36:29
  But, yeah, I'm pretty fired up about that.
• 1:36:32
  That's awesome.
• 1:36:35
  So, yeah.
• 1:36:35
  So once I get back from the games,
• 1:36:36
  I got to find a membership,
• 1:36:38
  get in the pool,
• 1:36:39
  like two days a week swimming,
• 1:36:40
  and then do my CrossFit the
• 1:36:42
  rest of the week.
• 1:36:43
  But just to, like,
• 1:36:45
  get some low-impact time in
• 1:36:48
  to feel better.
• 1:36:51
  With that,
• 1:36:54
  Will Moore had just posted on IG
• 1:36:55
  of a pick of a box and a rock.
• 1:36:58
  I know he liked the prize
• 1:36:59
  money for the 35 to 39.
• 1:37:02
  And he told me that if it
• 1:37:03
  was staying the same,
• 1:37:04
  he was going to try to get
• 1:37:05
  there and make decisions on
• 1:37:08
  his recovery based on that.
• 1:37:10
  They stayed the same.
• 1:37:13
  Maybe he's going to give it a go.
• 1:37:17
  And if he is,
• 1:37:18
  we'll be behind the scenes to
• 1:37:19
  catch it all.
• 1:37:21
  So that's going to be a blast too.
• 1:37:24
  With that,
• 1:37:25
  we're going to get everybody out
• 1:37:26
  of here tonight.
• 1:37:27
  Enjoy the Olympics this week.
• 1:37:28
  We'll be back next week.
• 1:37:30
  Maybe we'll do our thoughts
• 1:37:32
  on who's going to win the teams.
• 1:37:34
  Maybe not a full 40 or 30 breakdown.
• 1:37:38
  We tried that last year,
• 1:37:40
  and you might as well just
• 1:37:41
  put them in a box.
• 1:37:43
  Top five.
• 1:37:44
  Yeah, we'll go top five.
• 1:37:47
  With that, everybody, have a great week.
• 1:37:48
  We'll see you next time on
• 1:37:50
  Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
• 1:37:52
  Bye, guys.